[00:00] <helpy> MetaMorfoziS: i want to add google toolbar so that i can one click loginto my gmail
[00:01] <MetaMorfoziS> I don't think that you want google toolbar...
[00:01] <prodigy> i am back helpy
[00:01] <MetaMorfoziS> i hate "toolbars" :/
[00:01] <MetaMorfoziS> you can add a simple bookmark to your bookmark toolbar
[00:01] <helpy> wb
[00:01] <helpy> open ccsm
[00:01] <MetaMorfoziS> (that's firefox's built-in toolbar)
[00:01] <MetaMorfoziS> and then you just click on it:)
[00:01] <MetaMorfoziS> to get to google.
[00:01] <MetaMorfoziS> gmail*
[00:02] <helpy> i dont get it
[00:03]  * MetaMorfoziS screenshots.
[00:03] <prodigy> helpy: in settings manager of comiz enable rotate cube, it works for me
[00:03] <helpy> ok hang on
[00:03] <helpy> its under desktop ?
[00:03] <prodigy> helpy: yes it is
[00:04] <MetaMorfoziS> http://webjegyzet.hu/p/bt.png
[00:04] <helpy> ok hang on
[00:04] <th_shdw> hi
[00:04] <MetaMorfoziS> the second line is the bookmarks toolbar view -> toolbars -> bookmark toolbar
[00:04] <MetaMorfoziS> ok:)
[00:04] <helpy> well its rotating but not as a cube
[00:04] <helpy> its just window rotate
[00:04] <frojnd> Does anyone here uses pure-ftpd ? I've checked network and from network isn't anything wrong. Problem is one or more files of config dir. When I try to login from another computer that's what I get: http://pastebin.com/m219cc861 Anyone who uses pure-ftpd welcome and don't feel afraid to reply my q. :) Thanx in advance
[00:04] <th_shdw> can I boot off an usb?}?
[00:05] <prodigy> you will have to put 4 desktops in general settings
[00:05] <prodigy> not two plus two, just 4
[00:05] <MetaMorfoziS> th_shdw > yes, i'm doing that now:)
[00:05] <helpy> huh ?
[00:05] <MetaMorfoziS> and messing with encryption:)
[00:05] <th_shdw> can Iinstall off a usb?
[00:05] <Mr_Pan> how to start kmix on boot   ?
[00:05] <MetaMorfoziS> Mr_Pan > link it to your .kde/Autostart
[00:05] <prodigy> helpy: on settings manager, click general
[00:06] <darrick> hello again... is there a way other than wine to run flash (adobe flash to make games)
[00:06] <th_shdw> MetaMorfoziS: how u doing it?
[00:06] <helpy> MetaMorfoziS: i dont get it. i want google TOOLBAR
[00:06] <prodigy> helpy: on desktop size tab, put 4 horizontal desktops
[00:06] <helpy> yea i am in general prodigy
[00:06] <prodigy> helpy: and one vertical.
[00:06] <th_shdw> MetaMorfoziS: u unpacked the iso in the usb stick?
[00:06] <MetaMorfoziS> helpy > i just telled you an alternative. i don't trust in google toolbar, thats all.
[00:06] <MetaMorfoziS> th_shdw > i bought a 8gb pendrive:)
[00:06] <helpy> oh ok
[00:06] <MetaMorfoziS> And just installed it to that
[00:06] <prodigy> helpy: does it work? it works for me.
[00:07] <helpy> can you screen shot prodigy?
[00:07] <MetaMorfoziS> boot up an installer cd, select you rpendrive and install
[00:07] <MetaMorfoziS> even alterante or desktop can doo that
[00:07] <prodigy> helpy: yep. just a moment...
[00:07] <MetaMorfoziS> the problem starts at when you want encrypted lvm (that you may want, because other way it will be unsecure)
[00:07] <th_shdw> MetaMorfoziS: MetaMorfoziS do I have to uspack the iso??
[00:07] <helpy> ok
[00:08] <MetaMorfoziS> th_shdw > how big your thumbdrive?
[00:08] <MetaMorfoziS> is*
[00:08] <helpy> i dont get my mic working in skype MetaMorfoziS
[00:08] <helpy> any idea ?
[00:08] <th_shdw> MetaMorfoziS: 4GB
[00:08] <th_shdw> the cd is 700MB-
[00:08] <MetaMorfoziS> helpy > play with skype's settings
[00:08] <MetaMorfoziS> th_shdw > and 2.4 when it's extracted
[00:08] <MetaMorfoziS> so 4gb is well
[00:08] <MetaMorfoziS> just get any install cd
[00:09] <MetaMorfoziS> and boot that up, with your pendrive plugged in
[00:09] <MetaMorfoziS> that's all, the installer detect that as a drive
[00:09] <prodigy> helpy: uploading...
[00:09] <MetaMorfoziS> you can select it...
[00:09] <helpy> ok prodi
[00:09] <helpy> MetaMorfoziS: its an older version and adept repository doesnt have latest one
[00:09] <prodigy> helpy: http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3tf1.png
[00:09] <MetaMorfoziS> then get skype from skype.com
[00:10] <th_shdw> MetaMorfoziS: I will try now, thanks
[00:10] <helpy> thats where i got that from MetaMorfoziS
[00:10] <MetaMorfoziS> np
[00:10] <prodigy> helpy: does it work?
[00:10] <helpy> thats not what my ccsm look like prodigy
[00:10] <helpy> wait
[00:10] <MetaMorfoziS> then what about adept? why you tell that to me?
[00:11] <prodigy> ccsm?
[00:11] <prodigy> i thought you need cube effect:)
[00:11] <MetaMorfoziS> i think finish with prodigy, then discuss about it:) Because we get messy a bit
[00:11] <helpy> wow
[00:11] <helpy> great
[00:11] <helpy> got it prodigy
[00:11] <helpy> how do you zoom in and zoom out desktop ?
[00:11] <helpy> i am very fast in multitasking MetaMorfoziS dont worry
[00:11] <helpy> :)
[00:12] <prodigy> winkey plus nubers 1 2 3
[00:12] <MetaMorfoziS> but not exact what you say:)
[00:12] <helpy> ok hang on
[00:12] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't get where adept cames to our scope:)
[00:13] <helpy> great prodigy
[00:13] <helpy> do you know all these effects ?
[00:13] <helpy> http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot3tf1.png
[00:13] <helpy> err wait
[00:13] <prodigy> letgs see..
[00:13] <helpy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMnlIUazids
[00:14] <Odd-rationale> does anyone know how kde4 kwin compositing compares to compiz-fusion in terms of speed and memory/cpu usage?
[00:14] <USMarine> anyone from south dakota?
[00:14] <Daisuke_Ido> that depends, are you going to try to influence my vote?
[00:14] <prodigy> helpy: that is my screenshot:)
[00:14] <USMarine> just wanted to know if the polls closed already?
[00:15] <helpy> no the link after that prodigy
[00:15] <tinin> politicians suck
[00:15] <prodigy> helpy: that video is a very advanced compiz setup, i never made it that far, but read some forums, and you could make it...:)
[00:16] <prodigy> helpy: cool, awesome, neet, grat... wow
[00:16] <MetaMorfoziS> helpy > and don't forget there are #compiz
[00:16] <MetaMorfoziS> and other rooms, specified for compiz:)
[00:16] <helpy> oh thanks MetaMorfoziS
[00:17] <tinin> #compiz-fusion
[00:17] <helpy> awesome. hail linux
[00:17] <helpy> :)
[00:17] <prodigy> compiz-fusion is the coolest thing that came out of linux world.
[00:17] <prodigy> hail!
[00:18] <helpy> yea it beats vista by far
[00:18] <MetaMorfoziS> prodigy > i think linux has a lot of better stuff imho
[00:18] <tinin> Adobe Flash suck with compiz-fusion enabled :S
[00:18] <Daisuke_Ido> oh yes, go bloat and cruft
[00:18] <prodigy> it blasts vista aero to smithereens, vista alredy sucked hard, but hardy made it look lame, too!!!
[00:18] <MetaMorfoziS> flash sucks everywhere...
[00:18] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[00:18] <prodigy> xd
[00:19] <prodigy> MetaMorfoziS: liek what?
[00:19] <Daisuke_Ido> compiz is nice for showing off a "hey, look at me, i'm cool!" desktop, but completely and utterly useless when it comes to actually working on a pc
[00:19] <darrick> is there a way other than wine to run flash (adobe flash to make games)
[00:19] <MetaMorfoziS> like it's unavailable for 64bit
[00:19] <prodigy> i like my linux to look kool
[00:19] <MetaMorfoziS> like ff crashes 99% caused by flash
[00:19] <Daisuke_Ido> *cool
[00:19] <prodigy> Daisuke_Ido: i can proove you wrong, mate
[00:19] <MetaMorfoziS> like it eats up your cpu (at least mine)
[00:19] <tinin> a nice trick is to zoom in the small flash embeded videos with compiz, instead of using them at fullscreen
[00:20] <prodigy> MetaMorfoziS: you are r8! flash sux hard:)
[00:20] <Daisuke_Ido> prodigy: how does compiz improve productivity
[00:20] <helpy> but you can't watch youtube without it
[00:20] <prodigy> Daisuke_Ido: i use compiz to ease up my work with viewports.
[00:20] <MetaMorfoziS> thats true:)
[00:20] <Daisuke_Ido> viewports
[00:20] <helpy> Daisuke_Ido: its more navigable
[00:20] <Daisuke_Ido> you are aware that virtual desktops aren't new, right?
[00:20] <Odd-rationale> i like compiz tab windows feature... although fluxbox already had that...
[00:20] <MetaMorfoziS> But adobe stated that they do the development paralell with other versions now
[00:20] <helpy> just do tilt windows and see whats in back ground
[00:21] <MetaMorfoziS> so new versions came out at the same time in the future
[00:21] <Daisuke_Ido> compiz offers nothing every distro doesn't already have
[00:21] <darrick> can you get virtual desktops free
[00:21] <MetaMorfoziS> so they become good:)
[00:21] <darrick> even if its a trial?
[00:21] <prodigy> Daisuke_Ido: as many viewports as you like, just a keyboard shortcut away., and it looks kool too., plus seeing the content of widow while win+tab or alt+tab...
[00:21] <Daisuke_Ido> darrick: what?
[00:21] <MetaMorfoziS> i mean, flash player
[00:21] <prodigy> etc etc
[00:21] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[00:21] <Daisuke_Ido> prodigy: "cool" - we try to use big boy language here
[00:22] <Rioting_pacifist> tinin: the result of that varies, on gutsy with ATI it sucked on hardy still with ATI its good :s
[00:22] <darrick> im not sure...
[00:22] <Rioting_pacifist> better than kwin fullscreen
[00:22] <MetaMorfoziS> Daisuke_Ido > no, i try to use english here... i has some difficulity as you can see:D
[00:22] <prodigy> Daisuke_Ido: what is wrong in some koolness in your computer using?
[00:22] <Daisuke_Ido> "cool"
[00:23] <tinin> Flash 10b, has 3d aceleration, but only if compiz is not running
[00:23] <prodigy> it looks crispy, and helps me speed up my work. that is why i use it. p.s. i say kool, because i like KDE ;)
[00:23] <tinin> blame on adobe
[00:23] <prodigy> and hate gnome
[00:24] <Daisuke_Ido> so otherwise you would have said "gool"?  you make no sense
[00:24] <prodigy> no, man, i say kool, konsole, etc. what do you have against me ssaying kool?!
[00:24] <Qster> how do you use viewports?
[00:25] <prodigy> Qster: use them for what?
[00:25] <MetaMorfoziS> http://www.theonion.com/content/video/new_wearable_feedbags_let
[00:25] <MetaMorfoziS> omg
[00:25] <Qster> i dunno was just wondering what they are really
[00:25] <prodigy> Qster: they are a part of compiz, replacing virtual desktops
[00:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Qster: fancy name for "virtual desktop"
[00:26] <Daisuke_Ido> compiz has its place, and i won't deny anyone their shiny
[00:26] <prodigy> Daisuke_Ido: are you a no X user?
[00:26] <Qster> how do i use it tho?
[00:26] <Qster> it says its enabled
[00:26] <prodigy> Daisuke_Ido: i bet you prefer typing a comand rather that clicking on an icon...
[00:26] <Daisuke_Ido> prodigy: i use X, i just prefer not to use compiz
[00:26] <minhaaj> compiz is awesome
[00:26] <darrick> ok why wont some programs open, they just go to loading aplication and then dissapear
[00:26] <prodigy> Daisuke_Ido: ok.
[00:26] <Daisuke_Ido> prodigy: and would that be an issue?  if i did prefer to use a command line?
[00:27] <minhaaj> i have seen windows vista users stop blinking watching what compiz can do
[00:27] <minhaaj> but true, linux isnt about eye candy
[00:27] <minhaaj> its more than that ?
[00:27] <Qster> you cant run gui programs from a command line tho
[00:27] <prodigy> Daisuke_Ido: not at all, i just know some ppl that hate X and everything about it, compiz too.
[00:27] <Daisuke_Ido> Qster: BS - open a terminal and type konqueror
[00:27] <minhaaj> how do i install this theme ?
[00:27] <minhaaj> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Azenis?content=77150
[00:27] <prodigy> minhaaj: hard work...
[00:28] <minhaaj> why ?
[00:28] <MetaMorfoziS> minhaaj > i think it has a readme
[00:28] <prodigy> minhaaj: just a second...
[00:28] <Qster> says unable to access x server
[00:28] <minhaaj> ok lemme see
[00:28] <MetaMorfoziS> but that isn't hard
[00:29] <prodigy> minhaaj: yes, it has a readme, it is pretty too much work to build it, but it looks breathtaking...
[00:29] <MetaMorfoziS> hmm, it's nice
[00:29] <MetaMorfoziS> i try to install that
[00:29] <helpy> i am downloading it
[00:29] <prodigy> actually, it is a windows blinds theme, ported to  kde.
[00:29] <helpy> its in .tar.gz
[00:29] <Daisuke_Ido> Qster: if you're in a pure text environment (say, a TTY) then no, you won't be able to run gui programs, because there's not a gui
[00:29] <helpy> i just have to unzip it ?
[00:29] <prodigy> the coolest theme i found so far.
[00:29] <Daisuke_Ido> but that's not what you said
[00:29] <MetaMorfoziS> hmm helpy i think you need cp -r .kde .kdeBackup
[00:29] <MetaMorfoziS> and me too
[00:30] <helpy> thats a konsole command ?
[00:30] <MetaMorfoziS> for the case if we mess up :D
[00:30] <MetaMorfoziS> yes
[00:30] <prodigy> helpy: no. unzip it, install window sdecoration, colours, icons i think etc
[00:30] <Firefishe> hello hello
[00:30] <Firefishe> :)
[00:30] <helpy> not working MetaMorfoziS
[00:30] <prodigy> you have to install every separatething manually. but it looks so nice...:) ahhh
[00:31] <prodigy> hello Firefishe
[00:31] <helpy> how do install window sdecoration ?
[00:31] <Firefishe> hi prodigy
[00:31] <prodigy> window decoration.
[00:31] <helpy> how ?
[00:31] <prodigy> sorry, a typo
[00:31] <Qster> well i thought thats what you mean Daisuke_Ido
[00:31] <prodigy> helpy: you have to build it in konsole.
[00:31] <helpy> what command ?
[00:32] <Qster> how do i use the viewport switcher? it says to initiate its button2?
[00:32] <Qster> im using cube tho is that the same thing?
[00:32] <prodigy> i think the standard ./configure && make && make install
[00:32] <helpy> is this the command ?
[00:32] <slinker> checkinstall might be better easier to uninstall if needed
[00:32] <prodigy> helpy: azenis theme has a nice readme file that exxplains what you have to do in order to install it.
[00:32] <Qster> i did have a question about 32bit vs 64bit if you guys knew... i currently have 3gigs of ram would i see any increase in 64bit?
[00:33] <helpy> ok lets see
[00:33] <prodigy> i have to restart to update my kernel. see ya in a minute or so...
[00:33] <th_shdw> linux pwnz
[00:33] <prodigy> linux l33t hax0rz
[00:34] <MetaMorfoziS> helpy > there are a HowTo.pdf
[00:34] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[00:34] <MetaMorfoziS> can you read in swedish?
[00:35] <helpy> yea got it
[00:35] <helpy> lol no but i can figure out
[00:35] <th_shdw> MetaMorfoziS: how to boot off usb using the alternative?
[00:36] <MetaMorfoziS> What you don't understand?
[00:36] <MetaMorfoziS> I said it 3 times to you
[00:36] <helpy> whats kicker ?
[00:36] <MetaMorfoziS> just get a kubuntu alternate install. burn it. plug in your pendrive (And maybe plug down your other hdds to prevent problems and grub errors). boot the cd
[00:37] <MetaMorfoziS> thats all.
[00:37] <MetaMorfoziS> your bios need to setup correctly to boot from usb
[00:37] <MetaMorfoziS> i can't help in that
[00:37] <MetaMorfoziS> helpy > kicker is the panels
[00:37] <MetaMorfoziS> thats light grey by default
[00:37] <MetaMorfoziS> with time, systray taskbar...
[00:37] <helpy> yea got it
[00:38] <helpy> ok i am lost
[00:43] <helpy> any ideas ?
[00:43] <helpy> can't get theme to work
[00:43] <helpy> :s
[00:44] <MetaMorfoziS> grrroar
[00:45] <helpy> ?
[00:45] <holla> is there a good audio progam on kubuntu-or even ubuntu- where I can loop and audio file?
[00:45] <MetaMorfoziS> amarok?
[00:45] <helpy> did you try audacity ?
[00:45] <MetaMorfoziS> audacity is a sound editor program
[00:46] <NickPresta> You might try rosegarden
[00:47] <holla> no, actually.  I tried with what cam in Gutsy.  I will try those and see how they work. Thank you!
[00:53] <Rioting_pacifist> ive done something horrible to my keyboard settings, how can i restore them to defaults
[00:54] <NickPresta> Rioting_pacifist, what have you done?
[00:55] <Rioting_pacifist> not entirely sure i was playing around all day to get acer hotkeys to work, but i got them worknig another way, now my right control doesnt work in X but is shown as being down by the keyboard status applet
[00:57] <helpy> i dont get it. i can't install this theme
[00:57] <helpy> :S
[00:57] <NickPresta> Rioting_pacifist, you can go into System Settings > Keyboard and change it back to US Default or what ever it was before
[01:00] <Rioting_pacifist> i have, its wierd ctrl + click is picked up but not ctrl + a
[01:03] <Rioting_pacifist> well my system just got an flgrx update so im going to reboot and hope this stupid keyboard thing automagically goes away :s
[01:03] <helpy> do i have to restart to get the theme working ?
[01:04] <Rioting_pacifist> nope, infact ignore my panic alogether it was compiz wierdness, stupid decorations working means i never know if im in compiz lol
[01:04] <NickPresta> helpy, you have to restart X, I believe. Close any applications, log out, and then select "Restart X" from the login menu. Then log back in.
[01:30] <ard_> hello, can anybody help me install epsxe?
[01:32] <ubuntu> Alguien aqui habla español?
[01:33] <coreymon77> !es | ubuntu
[01:45] <th_shdw> deos the usb need to be bootable or something??
[01:55] <Treefire> Howdy guys. I'm still learning about getting leopard and kubuntu to communicate, and eh, it's not going so well. How do I get both leopard and kubuntu to be able to play music from a music partition?
[01:56] <Treefire> Leopard keeps wanting to not read it because it isn't a mac filing system, but of course when I reformat it into a mac filing system linux doesn't even know it exists
[01:56] <NickPresta> Treefire, you can mount the partition and have Amarok play the folder like it would any other folder. I'm not sure about Leopard. I would consult their support options
[01:56] <Treefire> Ah
[01:56] <Treefire> Okay
[01:56] <NickPresta> !mount | Treefire
[01:56] <Treefire> So it's a leopard fault, not an ubuntu fault
[01:56] <Treefire> That's kinda cool
[01:57] <NickPresta> What file system is the partition?
[01:57] <Treefire> Uh... whatever standard mac osx filing system there is... I forget the name of it, kds+ or something
[01:57] <Treefire> I'm a recent convert to anything unixbased
[01:57] <Treefire> and i wasn't very technologically literate beforehand for that matter
[01:57] <NickPresta> apparently, Leopard is using ZFS
[01:58] <Treefire> No manual entry for mkfs
[01:58] <Treefire> ...?
[01:58] <Treefire> Did I break it?
[01:58] <Treefire> Wait, kubuntu can just plain old mount my music partition?
[01:58] <Treefire> Rofl, wow
[01:58] <Treefire> So I have no need to change its filing system
[01:58] <Treefire> I can just keep it the way it is, so mac osx is happy
[01:59] <NickPresta> Treefire, if you can view the partition (/dev/sda1 or what ever) then you're good
[01:59] <Treefire> and still be able to play from it in kubunku
[01:59] <Treefire> Wow, that's cool guys
[01:59] <Treefire> Thanks :D
[01:59] <NickPresta> I do something similar. I have all my music/videos on a 500GB USB hard drive (that is formatted to NTFS)
[02:00] <Treefire> I was thinking a different format that both OSes could read would work
[02:00] <Treefire> but the only thing I know anything about is fat16 and 32
[02:00] <Treefire> and i don't really want to make a fat16 partition on my hd
[02:00] <Firefishe> Can kubuntu read/write to NTFS yet?
[02:01] <Odd-rationale> Firefishe: yes it can
[02:01] <NickPresta> GNU+Linux can read/write to FAT file systems, can read NTFS native and with a bit of help, write to NTFS. Any of those are fine
[02:01] <NickPresta> !ntfs-3g | Firefishe
[02:01] <Firefishe> thanks NickPresta
[02:02] <Treefire> So uh
[02:02] <Treefire> another thing
[02:02] <Treefire> What do I need to do to get kubuntu to recognize my wireless card?
[02:02] <NickPresta> Start at the wireless docs
[02:02] <NickPresta> !wireless | Treefire
[02:03] <Treefire> ah, thanks. I had browsed the forums and all I found were people who had already done the basic steps that i don't know about, and those steps didn't work
[02:03] <Treefire> lol
[02:03] <Firefishe> Treefire: If you have a Broadcom 4306, I may be able to be of service....barely ;) hee
[02:03] <Treefire> I do :)
[02:03] <Firefishe> *sigh*
[02:03] <Firefishe> lol
[02:03]  * mr--t wonders is that the real bot back
[02:03] <Firefishe> Treefire..okay if I /query ya?
[02:04] <Treefire> Uh, sure. I'm not quite sure what that does
[02:04] <Firefishe> also known as a private message, as in:   /query Firefishe
[02:04] <Firefishe> ;)
[02:04] <Firefishe> try it
[02:05] <Treefire> oh
[02:05] <Treefire> lol durr
[02:08] <egosintrick> check
[02:09] <Treefire> Oh, btw, guys. Any way I can mount my kubuntu home directory in mac osx? Or is that a question better asked of #macosx?
[02:09] <Pici> Treefire: Probably better for that channel
[02:09] <NickPresta> Treefire, I'm sure there is some way for OSX to mount an ext3 file system
[02:09] <NickPresta> You should ask in the respective channel though. Most of us here don't have a Mac
[02:24] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[02:24] <MetaMorfoziS> i has the same problem as he: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3774748#post3774748
[02:24] <MetaMorfoziS> is there anybody who has any idea how to solve this?
[02:24] <th_shdw> the usd booting didn,t work
[02:25] <th_shdw> MetaMorfoziS: didn't work
[02:25] <frybye> Hi - with hardy, despite the default browser set as firefox - OpenOffice Impress -links open konquerer  - where/how to change to firefox??
[02:25] <MetaMorfoziS> the booting works
[02:25] <th_shdw> MetaMorfoziS: no
[02:25] <MetaMorfoziS> as you can see here: http://webjegyzet.hu/p/DSC00106.jpg
[02:25] <MetaMorfoziS> but the encryption drives me mad
[02:25] <th_shdw> is not doing it here
[02:25] <MetaMorfoziS> so, anybody has done this problem?:)
[02:26] <MetaMorfoziS> th_shdw > did you get grub error?
[02:26] <MetaMorfoziS> if you aren't disconnected your other hdds before the installation
[02:27] <MetaMorfoziS> then your grub will be broken on the pendrive
[02:27] <MetaMorfoziS> replace the hd(1,0) or what to hd(0,0) in menu.ls
[02:27] <MetaMorfoziS> t
[02:27] <MetaMorfoziS> as described here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/a-much-easier-way-to-install-ubuntu-on-a-usb-device-stick-or-hd.html
[02:28] <freethinker>  hi!can anybody help me put rosegarden dislpaying sound? i have installed,and also sox,and sndfile
[02:31] <freethinker> can anybody help me?
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> fraid not...
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> ask in #ubuntu-studio
[02:31] <freethinker> thanks !!
[02:32]  * mr--t wonders why frybye isn't in off topic
[02:33] <Firefishe> Treefire?
[02:34] <BunnyRevolution> with kubuntu, is there a way to do an install with encryption and still preserve some of the drive partitions?
[02:36] <th_shdw> MetaMorfoziS: that's NOT what I am trying to do. I want to boot the LiveCD off the USB and from the USB install it on the IDE harddrive
[02:36] <MetaMorfoziS> oooh
[02:36] <th_shdw> I guess I didn't explain myself very clearly
[02:37] <MetaMorfoziS> amybe you need: http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-on-usb-bar
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> th_shdw: lookup a tutorial for installing ubuntu on the eeepc
[02:37] <nosrednaekim> !eeepc
[02:38] <th_shdw> thanks
[02:40] <th_shdw> what's a usb look like for grub?
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> IDK
[02:41] <th_shdw> @_@
[02:41] <freethinker> nobody anwser me on #ubuntustudio
[02:41] <th_shdw> w00t that mean?
[02:42] <freethinker> or ##linuxaudio
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> I don't know
[02:42] <MetaMorfoziS> If i boot up the livecd, and i upgrade a package
[02:42] <BunnyRevolution> i have two partitions i want to keep.  i've booted with the kubuntu alternate disk, and would have like to chose encryption for particular partitions, but save others from encryption.  is there a way to do this?
[02:42] <MetaMorfoziS> then it isntalls that to the hdd?
[02:42] <MetaMorfoziS> if i click on install?
[02:42] <MetaMorfoziS> Or it installst still the old version?
[02:45] <MetaMorfoziS> what does interpid means?
[02:45] <MetaMorfoziS> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/195464/comments/4
[02:45] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i get a package from that?
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> MetaMorfoziS: Intrepid if the next release
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> *is
[02:46] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, and how can i get a package from interpid's repo?
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> and you have to chroot into your install if you are on a liveCD to make any changes to it
[02:48] <MetaMorfoziS> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/cryptsetup
[02:48] <MetaMorfoziS> yeah!
[02:48] <MetaMorfoziS> nosrednaekim > thats just chroot /mnt not?
[02:48] <MetaMorfoziS> is that enough?
[02:49] <nosrednaekim> MetaMorfoziS: with a sudo, yes... if your install is mounted ot /mnt
[02:49] <MetaMorfoziS> I have an installed version of kubuntu on my pendrive
[02:49] <MetaMorfoziS> cool
[02:49]  * MetaMorfoziS hopes that a long story gets near it's end:D
[02:49] <MetaMorfoziS> not a userfriendly thing is the encrypted lvm stuff
[02:52] <MetaMorfoziS> i think i will write a howto if i get it...
[02:56] <minhaaj> how do i install widget for time and cpu usage in kubu ?
[03:04] <freethinker> now something hapenn starnge, here on konversation, an user named Luisa in channel Luisa said to me to go to an site said this :" Hi!  I found best mp3 site! http://muslander.com/?lymahairwlyi"
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> freethinker: ignore it
[03:05] <freethinker> ok, thanks !!
[03:05] <Treefire> Who was that guy I was just talking to?
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> he's gone apparently
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> freethinker: there are spammers on here like anywhere else
[03:12] <MetaMorfoziS> anyone on hardy upgraded to th enew kernel?
[03:12] <MetaMorfoziS> i have gone my cdrom...
[03:12] <some_dude> I think I do
[03:12] <MetaMorfoziS> and? has you cdrom detected?
[03:12] <some_dude> I don't really know
[03:12] <MetaMorfoziS> put in a cd
[03:12] <MetaMorfoziS> or startup k3b
[03:13] <MetaMorfoziS> that's puts an error in the front of you if not founds any cdrom
[03:13] <some_dude> it shows both of my cdroms
[03:13] <MetaMorfoziS> you are on that kernel?
[03:13] <some_dude> 2.6.24.17
[03:14] <MetaMorfoziS> then no
[03:14] <MetaMorfoziS> reboot
[03:14] <MetaMorfoziS> and check:)
[03:14] <MetaMorfoziS> 18 is the latest on hardy at me:)
[03:14] <some_dude> not if my cd roms are going to disapear
[03:14] <MetaMorfoziS> just try out
[03:14] <MetaMorfoziS> then go back to 17
[03:14] <MetaMorfoziS> i do that too
[03:14] <MetaMorfoziS> just i need to install that again because i removed
[03:15] <MetaMorfoziS> 24-18
[03:15] <MetaMorfoziS> 24-18
[03:15] <some_dude> I cant reboot now, I'm running other xservers against this machine, and if I reboot they all go down
[03:15] <MetaMorfoziS> ops sry
[03:15] <MetaMorfoziS> wrong window
[03:15] <MetaMorfoziS> oks
[03:15] <some_dude> when everyone logs off I'll reboot
[03:18] <MetaMorfoziS> i hav eno linux-ubuntu-modules-2.4.24-18
[03:18] <MetaMorfoziS> canbe that this is the problem
[03:18] <MetaMorfoziS> it gets a try:)
[03:18] <some_dude> I would think the ide drivers would be in the kernel
[03:19] <MetaMorfoziS> at ubuntu... who knows...
[03:19] <MetaMorfoziS> :D
[03:21] <minhaaj> what do you use for msn MetaMorfoziS?
[03:21] <MetaMorfoziS> nothing because i hate msn
[03:21] <MetaMorfoziS> anyways i was used msn
[03:21] <MetaMorfoziS> * kopete
[03:22] <MetaMorfoziS> reboot
[03:24] <MachinTrucChose> Hi. Can someone tell me why adding a new language using the Regional setting' "Install New Language" option installs Thunderbird?
[03:24] <MachinTrucChose> I don't see how the two are related
[03:27] <nosrednaekim> odd
[03:30] <MetaMorfoziS> the problem is pebkac...
[03:30] <MetaMorfoziS> i messed up something
[03:30] <MetaMorfoziS> i has no crom at all 17/18 not matters
[03:38] <minhaaj> MetaMorfoziS: i have lost my taskbar widget. can you help me get it back ?
[03:38] <minhaaj> i can't see time, battery, wallet and speakers in bottom right
[03:39] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[03:39] <MetaMorfoziS> rightclick on panel
[03:39] <MetaMorfoziS> add applets
[03:39] <MetaMorfoziS> ;)
[03:39] <minhaaj> oh that was easy
[03:39] <MetaMorfoziS> ;)
[03:40] <deitarion> Is libao not working a known issue in Kubuntu Hardy? My brother's ZSNES audio gets silently discarded somewhere between ZSNES and ALSA unless I use the SDL output driver for libao.
[03:41] <deitarion> My first impulse is to blame it on Ubuntu apparently using PulseAudio and Kubuntu apparently not.
[03:43] <theFATMAN> ok, my flash just stopped working for some reason, any suggestions?
[03:44] <robotgeek> theFATMAN: stopped working, as in no video at all?
[03:44] <theFATMAN> robotgeek: not even flash ads
[03:44] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i undo in nano?
[03:44] <theFATMAN> everything else on my system is tops
[03:44] <robotgeek> theFATMAN: normally, that would be a good thing :)
[03:45] <robotgeek> theFATMAN: which flash were you using. adobe/gnash?
[03:45] <theFATMAN> robotgeek, yeah no kidding! but when you're on youtube it's a bitch
[03:45] <theFATMAN> robotgeek, you know, I think both are installed to be honest
[03:46] <theFATMAN> lol
[03:46] <robotgeek> theFATMAN: how about removing one?
[03:46] <theFATMAN> hmmm...is there a way to update flash itself?
[03:46] <theFATMAN> in cli
[03:47] <robotgeek> theFATMAN: what do you mean, update? dont you have the latest version already?
[03:48] <theFATMAN> robotgeek, yeah, but i thought maybe it would work the kink out
[04:00] <sakui> hi hi ^^
[04:01] <tinin>  I found this to translate krecipes http://l10n.kde.org/stats/gui/trunk-kde4/po/krecipes.po/
[04:01] <tinin> what I'm supssed to do?
[04:01] <tinin>  Is there a web interface to translate there?
[04:02] <tinin> I'd like to translate it into spanish, what could I do?
[04:02] <Sakui> hey wthf
[04:03] <andyho623> hello all! can someone try and help me fix my broke ass system? LOL! I upgraded to Hardy and keep getting a seg fault
[04:05] <andyho623> I already tried fsck as someone suggested on the forums and it shows as clean
[04:11] <andyho623> trying rescue with the disc now.. fingers crossed...
[04:12] <andyho623> uuuggghhh this is so flippin retarded
[04:16] <Sakui> in kubuntu: how do I remove all packages except the packages when I first installed it?
[04:16] <andyho623> sakui: you mean just getting back to the default settings?
[04:17] <Sakui> yes and the packages.
[04:19] <andyho623> Sakui: I don't know the command off the top of my head, but I know it's possible since I had to do it before.. sorry right now I'm trying to rescue my system before I kick it across the room or I'd look real quick!
[04:20] <Sakui> haha
[04:20] <Sakui> what's your issue?
[04:21] <andyho623> I upgraded to Hardy and now I got segmentation fault issues.. tried fsck and it comes back clean.. checked my hard drive, no errors.. I know its something retarded, I just cant figure it out!
[04:21] <andyho623> I've tried rescue with the live cd and alt cd and no such luck :(
[04:21] <|Toad> i need some quick help in VLC.  i go to the transcode wizard and i want to cut a few seconds out of a wav file, so i tell it to transcode, and partial extract from 0:03:59 to 0:04:05, but it still does the whole file.  can anyone help me?
[04:21] <idef> is there anyway to just hide the mouse pointer, I want to use it as a display machine, and not have the mouse pointer show up, as there are no input devices for my machine
[04:23] <Sakui> buggy hardware or bad device drivers?
[04:24] <andyho623> If I had to guess it's my stupid nvidia card again, it's been a pain since I started using Ubuntu with edgy.. but usually I just change out the drivers and all is good.. I was just dumb and did the upgrade through synaptic rather than cd... duh....
[04:25] <andyho623> right now I get... cd:33: can't cd to /var/cache/pppconfig
[04:25] <andyho623> segmentation fault
[04:25] <andyho623> init: rc2 main process (5097) killed by segv signal
[04:26] <andyho623> I can kill x and login to a terminal though
[04:26] <andyho623> though it does give me -bash: /dev/null: permission denied
[04:26] <Sakui> if you kill X, it will respawn itself.
[04:27] <andyho623> sometimes.. LOL! depends on which kernel I boot into
[04:28] <nikke> Hey when i start kde it "hangs" can't open any programs, it opens but nothing happens..
[04:29] <nikke> i got an crashreport before i restarted x it was the panel
[04:29] <nikke> so now im in a terminal
[04:29] <nikke> :(
[04:34] <andyho623> YEEEEEAAAAAA!!!!!! well at least everything is still showing in my home folder!!!
[04:36] <nikke> where can i found kde errorlogs?
[04:45] <cylux> Does kubuntu use kdm by default?
[04:46] <haryono> i still cant run my webcam
[04:47] <haryono> any one can fix it?
[04:48] <flaccid> !webcam | haryono
[04:48] <flaccid> haryono: did you check support above and in google?
[04:51] <nikke> hey i think my x is the problem?
[04:51] <nikke> xfce doesnt work either...
[04:51] <nikke> where can i see x log?
[04:51] <Remo-Con> if you don't want noobs
[04:51] <flaccid> nikke: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:51] <jd_> can anyone here help with a problem i have with grub or tell me somewhere where i can get help
[04:51] <flaccid> !grub | jd_
[04:51] <Remo-Con> it's there..
[04:52] <deamon3> Recomendations --------------Freebsd or opensolaris ?¿
[04:52] <Remo-Con> being british and all >_>
[04:52] <flaccid> deamon3: freebsd unless you have solaris/sparc hardware
[04:58] <deamon3> BSD entonces
[05:14] <rabiddachshund> I'm trying to enable dual monitors but kcontrol keeps crashing
[05:22] <sakui> how do I manually change the resolution?
[05:22] <Remo-Con> bring3: sudo: gparted: command not found
[05:24] <flaccid> sakui: /etc/X11/xorg.conf or dynamically with xrandr
[05:27] <sakui> flaccid: can I change it in text mode?
[05:27] <flaccid> what is text mode?
[05:27] <sakui> the command line
[05:27] <flaccid> yep
[05:31] <haryono> any one use kubuntu here?
[05:31] <haryono> yes i need some help
[05:32] <sakui> don't we all
[05:36] <djdarkman> hey whats up with the strange kernel update?
[05:36] <Remo-Con> typo
[05:37] <djdarkman> you mean this kernel is a mistake?
[05:38] <djdarkman> os all of this update?
[05:40] <Shiver23> i need a new IM client.. Konversation SUCKS!  any sugestions??
[05:40] <Shiver23> i liked the one that came with ubuntu 8
[05:41] <ubunturos> Shiver23: Konversation is not a IM client. It is an IRC client
[05:41] <Remo-Con> im talking about harry potter
[05:41] <ubunturos> Shiver23: Kopete and GAIM are good ones, Shiver23
[05:41]  * flaccid is back from crash
[05:45] <Shiver23> yeah... ok thanks
[05:45] <Shiver23> bye bye
[05:47] <djdarkman> Shi
[05:48] <djdarkman> Shiver23: don`t flame an irc client because you don`t like it, write a better one, or take the source and fork it
[05:48] <flaccid> i'll bbs/
[05:49] <djdarkman> what`s with this update?
[05:50] <clayton> How do I have gtk match qt in KDE4?
[05:51] <Remo-Con> kimba's!!!
[06:45] <yacc> Any idea what package contains the DOM tree viewer plugin?
[06:45] <flaccid> plugin for?
[06:46] <yacc> konqueror?
[06:46] <yacc> googling around for it, it seems to have been part of kdeaddons 3.5.2 ;(
[06:47] <flaccid> !info kdeaddons | yacc
[06:47] <yacc> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kdeaddons/kdeaddons_3.5.2-0ubuntu4/knewsticker-scripts.copyright
[06:47] <yacc> flaccid, yeah, but it's not there in kdeaddons/konq-plugins nowadays it seems.
[06:48] <flaccid> i will have a look
[06:48] <yacc> thx
[06:49] <flaccid> doesn't look like its in any of these: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=konq+plugin
[06:49] <yacc> flaccid :(
[06:50] <yacc> flaccid, it seemed like the best shot at extracting the URL of embbeded objects in konq (adblocking).
[06:51] <flaccid> !privoxy | yacc
[06:51] <flaccid> !info privoxy
[06:51] <yacc> Ok, it's there in konq-plugins alright, now I wonder how to use it.
[06:52] <yacc> flaccid, I know about privoxy. Still nothing like the user friendlyness of Adblock+
[06:52] <flaccid> install it i gues it should come up in menu
[06:54] <yacc> flaccid, found it, you need to enable it explicitly in Extensions ;)
[06:54] <flaccid> ah rightio coolio
[07:05] <vlt> Hello. How can I tell kdm to use only as much pixels as X is currently displaying? When I the mouse pointer now reaches the edge of the visible 1280x1024 area the content "scrolls", it seems to be at least 1600x1***. Any idea?
[07:26] <moj0rising> hi, there.
[07:34] <alexandre> hi room
[07:34] <alexandre> bonjour
[07:34] <alexandre> salam alikoum
[07:34] <alexandre> shalom
[07:34] <sterna> huomenta.
[07:41] <xperience> mm
[07:46] <lat> Can ubuntu packages not be used with Kubuntu? I'm having problems with the Synaptic Package Manager  locking up when trying to install what turns out to be a package with the Gnome front end.
[08:12] <theFATMAN> what is the easiest way to delete a file in cli?
[08:12] <clayton> All my sound works fine, except for in amarok. It's randomly putting all output through my second soundcard, even though my default is the first soundcard. how can i fix this?
[08:13] <clayton> theFATMAN: rm <file>
[08:13] <theFATMAN> clayton, thought so
[08:14] <theFATMAN> man, i love the cli
[08:14] <theFATMAN> 8)
[08:16] <clayton> All my sound works fine, except for in amarok. It's randomly putting all output through my second soundcard, even though my default is the first soundcard. how can i fix this?
[08:18] <flaccid> clayton: might be able to config it in amarok config | engines and use alsa
[08:19] <clayton> flaccid: Ah ok.
[08:22] <ct529> I am looking for rugged palmtops. Any clue?
[08:27] <minhaaj> my kubuntu keeps getting stuck
[08:27] <minhaaj> any idea ?
[08:28] <sakura> how do I enable nvidia drivers?
[08:28] <flaccid> !nvidia | sakura
[08:28] <Remo-Con> bored
[08:28] <flaccid> ubottu: restricted/hardware drivers
[08:28] <flaccid> oops
[08:28] <flaccid> that was sakura
[08:28] <minhaaj> lol
[08:34] <eritrea_> my kubuntu freezes when i have compiz fusion enabled
[08:35] <helpy> dont play too many effects eritera
[08:35] <flaccid> eritrea_: kubuntu version, kde version please
[08:38] <eritrea_> 8.04 kde 3
[08:38] <eritrea_> i have  a pentuim 4 prossisor
[08:40] <rrichie> hi all
[08:40] <rrichie> no release date for kubuntu kde4.1 beta 1 packages ?
[09:02] <emmanuep> salut a tous
[09:02] <emmanuep> J'ais un problème de boot sur ecran noir
[09:02] <emmanuep> sur un DELL XPS 1730 sous kubuntu hardy
[09:03] <emmanuep> équipé d'une nvidia GeForce M 8700
[09:03] <Daisuke_Ido> !fr | emmanuep
[09:03] <emmanuep> ok
[09:03] <FSHero> HI... could anyone tell me which nvidia-glx package I should use for a Geforce 6700?
[09:04] <Daisuke_Ido> nvidia-glx-new
[09:04] <FSHero> Daisuke_Ido: Thanks!
[09:04] <level1> hi, I have the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website and somehow I managed to install nvidia-glx... now apt is complaining about conflicts and refuses to do anything.  Is there a way to have apt pretend that the driver is not installed without it having to change anything on disk?
[09:05] <Daisuke_Ido> level1: no
[09:05] <flaccid> fix it up properly
[09:05] <FSHero> By the way, isn't it a bad idea for the package maintainers to call it nvidia-glx-new? because what about when NVIDIA releases the next set of drivers? They should have numbered it.
[09:05] <helpy> i can't see toolbar on my browser and other apps
[09:05] <helpy> i have done somethng with appearance
[09:05] <helpy> it won't show toolbar
[09:06] <helpy> :s
[09:06] <flaccid> FSHero: that wont give it contextual difference
[09:06] <level1> flaccid: fixing it properly means not fixing what aint broke!
[09:06] <flaccid> level1: that doesn't make sense
[09:06] <Daisuke_Ido> level1: if it's not working, it's broke, that's what broke means
[09:07] <level1> flaccid: the only thing that doesn't work on my system is apt... I don't see why I have to fsck up my driver set up to get apt working when its just apt being obstinate
[09:07] <FSHero> flaccid: What do you mean?
[09:08] <flaccid> level1: i don't know what that has to do with it. there is file conflicts here. pretty basic. its either manual or from package, not a combination
[09:08] <flaccid> !doesntwork | level1
[09:08] <flaccid> we can't help if you are vague
[09:08] <helpy> how do i get my appearnce back ???
[09:08] <level1> flaccid: there are no file conflicts.  Its just apt won't do anything because it thinks there are problems, but there is none
[09:09] <Daisuke_Ido> level1: it's you not doing it right - if you had installed through apt in the first place, this wouldn't be happening.
[09:09] <flaccid> level1: don't see how you can conclude that. all this talk and you can't show us the apt error. what did you expect?
[09:09] <flaccid> last time i saw apt lie was um.. never
[09:10] <level1> dpkg-divert: rename involves overwriting `/usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so' with \   different file `/usr/lib/nvidia/libwfb.so.xserver-xorg-core', not allowed
[09:10] <helpy> is my question to hard to answer ?
[09:10] <Daisuke_Ido> level1: try this: sudo dpkg -r nvidia-glx
[09:10] <Daisuke_Ido> helpy: if you were making any sense, it would be easier to help you
[09:10] <flaccid> level1: can you pastebin the whole thing including the command you did
[09:10] <helpy> whats so hard Daisuke_?
[09:11] <helpy> i can't see toolbar on top of my windows
[09:11] <helpy> its just gone
[09:11] <helpy> i can't close any window through top toolbar
[09:11] <Daisuke_Ido> helpy: are you using compiz?
[09:11] <maggo> helpy: did you activate "osx like toolbar"?
[09:11] <flaccid> !enter | helpy
[09:11] <helpy> hah ?
[09:11] <Daisuke_Ido> helpy: for having a nick like that, you're not helping us to help you.
[09:11] <helpy> i did something with appearance maggo
[09:12] <Daisuke_Ido> you did "something"
[09:12] <helpy> Daisuke_Ido: if you could focus on question than sarcasm that'd be great help
[09:12] <helpy> yep i did Daisuke_Ido. just wanna undo
[09:12] <Daisuke_Ido> sorry, i can't help you until you can be a little more specific
[09:12] <helpy> in system settings > appearance
[09:12] <Daisuke_Ido> so go to system settings > appearance
[09:12] <helpy> what do you need Daisuke_Ido?
[09:12] <Daisuke_Ido> and change it back
[09:13] <helpy> i have. it doesnt work
[09:13]  * Daisuke_Ido facepalms
[09:13] <Jucato> helpy: what toolbar is missing?
[09:13]  * Jucato is guessing it's not a toolbar at all
[09:13] <maggo> did you press "Strg+M"?
[09:13] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: his titlebars are missing.  he changed "something" and isn't disclosing what that something is
[09:13] <helpy> the top toolbar
[09:14] <helpy> well dont you see on top right a x sign to close the window ?
[09:14] <helpy> and to maximize it or minimize it ?
[09:14] <Jucato> if it's the one with the window title and minimize, maximize, close buttons
[09:14] <Jucato> that's not a toolbar
[09:14] <helpy> i am not having those signs
[09:14] <helpy> yep that Jucato
[09:14] <Jucato> that's your window border.
[09:14] <helpy> oh ok sorry :(
[09:14] <Jucato> chances are you can't move windows either
[09:14] <helpy> yep i cant
[09:14] <Jucato> are you using compiz-fusion (desktop effects)?
[09:15] <helpy> yep, and it doesnt have anything to do with it
[09:15] <Jucato> of course it does
[09:15] <helpy> it was working fine with it before i tampered with appearance
[09:15] <HollowPoint> lmfao
[09:15] <Jucato> why do you think it wouldn't?
[09:15] <helpy> but it doesnt!
[09:15] <Jucato> Compiz fusion is a window manager, it's the one responsible for drawing those window borders
[09:15] <maggo> helpy: your window manager crashed!
[09:15] <Jucato> if window borders are gone, then there's something wrong with the window manager
[09:15] <Jucato> so it does have something to do with compiz
[09:16] <helpy> yea and it was working before i changed settings in appearance
[09:16] <helpy> ok lets see
[09:16] <Jucato> yea but it's still compiz that is not working.
[09:16] <helpy> compiz is working
[09:16] <Jucato> try asking in #compiz-fusion what to do
[09:16] <Remo-Con> and votes should be weighted according to test scores
[09:16] <Jucato> I'm guessing, as maggo said, compiz crashed
[09:16] <flaccid> helpy: so this only occurs with compiz on?
[09:16] <maggo> helpy: that happens sometimes when changing the window dekoration
[09:17] <helpy> it has NOTHING to do with compiz
[09:17] <HollowPoint> helpy open a console and type emerald --replace &
[09:17] <flaccid> helpy: how would you know?
[09:17] <helpy> because compiz was working fine with borders before i screwed up with apearance in system settings
[09:18] <Jucato> helpy: how are you sure compiz is working *right now*!?"!?
[09:18] <flaccid> helpy: that doesn't conclude anything at all. that is merely an assumption. so what you can do is do this kwin --replace and see if you get them back.
[09:18] <maggo> do you use kwin or ermerald as window-dekorator?
[09:18] <flaccid> helpy: you might also want to see the wiki on compiz fusion which details loss of window decs
[09:18] <flaccid> !compiz-fusion | helpy
[09:18]  * Jucato sighs...
[09:18] <Jucato> you guys can have this
[09:18] <flaccid> np
[09:19] <helpy> ok you guys dont understand
[09:19] <Daisuke_Ido> Jucato: if you hadn't noticed, i gave up already
[09:19] <Daisuke_Ido> helpy: pay attention - he knows more about this than you do
[09:19] <flaccid> helpy: we do.
[09:20] <flaccid> helpy: pastebin ps aux | grep kwin; ps aux | grep compiz please
[09:20] <Daisuke_Ido> you're the kind of person that p***es off tech support.  there are steps that need to be gone through to determine the problem - 99% of the time, the user is WRONG
[09:20] <Jucato> helpy: no. *you* don't understand. *It has something to do with compiz*!! whether you changed something in system settings that caused it not to work properly is irrelevant. it is compiz that isn't working properly.
[09:20] <helpy> Daisuke_Ido:  yea but thats not good enough.
[09:20] <Daisuke_Ido> it's not good enough?
[09:20] <helpy> compiz is still good.
[09:20] <helpy> i can use effects
[09:20] <Daisuke_Ido> fine, figure it out yourself.  don't come here for help and then whine when you get it
[09:20] <helpy> and short keyes
[09:20] <Jucato> sure. but where are your borders?
[09:20] <helpy> that was nice Daisuke_Ido
[09:21] <maggo> helpy: changing the window-dekoration may result in a crash of emerald/kde-window-dekorator
[09:21] <Jucato> that's part of copmiz too
[09:21] <helpy> thats something i need to figure out Jucato
[09:21] <flaccid> this is all free and its not good enough :)
[09:21] <helpy> how to undo it maggo ?
[09:21] <helpy> hehe yea flaccid and theres nothing wrong with that.
[09:21]  * Jucato has pointed to #compiz-fusion
[09:21] <helpy> ppl like Daisuke_Ido so to miss the humor
[09:21] <flaccid> yes there is.
[09:21] <Daisuke_Ido> what humour?
[09:21] <maggo> helper: restart the window-dekorator
[09:21] <flaccid> and helpy im still waiting for your co-operation to help you ie. pastebin request
[09:21] <helpy> how maggo?
[09:21] <Daisuke_Ido> you're making my iq drop every second
[09:22] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't find that humorous
[09:22] <helpy> flaccid: i told you what i could
[09:22]  * Daisuke_Ido needs sleep
[09:22] <HollowPoint> making your iq drop?
[09:22] <HollowPoint> now thats one SERIOUSLY bad user
[09:22] <flaccid> helpy: we can't help you if you don't diagnose with us.
[09:22] <Daisuke_Ido> HollowPoint: haven't been following, have you?
[09:23] <flaccid> helpy: [18:20] <flaccid> helpy: pastebin ps aux | grep kwin; ps aux | grep compiz please
[09:23] <helpy> what do i have to do flaccid ? you keep poiintng me to compiz
[09:23] <flaccid> helpy: no i don't. please read above.
[09:23] <helpy> pastebin aux ? i dont get it
[09:23] <yinung_> jesus or i should say buddha ...
[09:23] <HollowPoint> I had someone tell me today that her new laptop was broken because the only resolution that looked sharp was the highest but with that resolution the fonts were too small, she insisted she deserved a refund, and this is a corporate client, not retail lol
[09:23] <flaccid> !pastebin | helpy
[09:23] <helpy> why are you telling me that ?
[09:23] <HollowPoint> and yeah I've been following Daisuke_Ido
[09:23] <helpy> i know pastebin
[09:23] <Daisuke_Ido> helpy: then do what he's asking
[09:23] <flaccid> helpy: run the command in konsole and pastebin it
[09:23] <maggo> helpy : execute "emerald --replace &" or "kde-window-decorator --replace"
[09:23] <HollowPoint> helpy did you type emerald --replace & into a konsole window?
[09:24] <flaccid> helpy: if you know it then do it.
[09:24] <helpy> oh ok
[09:24] <helpy> hang on
[09:24] <HollowPoint> counts
[09:24] <HollowPoint> 5
[09:24] <HollowPoint> 4
[09:24] <HollowPoint> 3
[09:24] <HollowPoint> 2
[09:24] <HollowPoint> 1
[09:24] <HollowPoint> it's back!
[09:24] <flaccid> !enter | HollowPoint
[09:24] <Jucato> um HollowPoint please don't do that again
[09:24] <flaccid> thats bloody annoying
[09:25] <HollowPoint> why do you guys end up finding that annoying? Do you have really loud sound on or something? it's a couple of lines from the same person. They won't jump out and kill you ya know.
[09:25] <yinung_> i am so helples please help me
[09:25] <helpy> oh thanks
[09:25] <nainef> hey guys... where does one find info on 2.6.24-18-generic
[09:25] <helpy> its back :)
[09:25] <Daisuke_Ido> -_-
[09:25] <helpy> great work maggo
[09:25] <Daisuke_Ido> it was a compiz issue
[09:25] <Daisuke_Ido> as you were told about a dozen times
[09:25] <helpy> but not created through compiz
[09:25] <Daisuke_Ido> next time, help us help you
[09:25] <Daisuke_Ido> yes created through compiz
[09:26] <helpy> Daisuke_Ido:  work on your attitude or learn from flaccid and maggo
[09:26] <flaccid> its back, for now.
[09:26] <flaccid> helpy: stfu and show respect.
[09:26] <maggo> helpy: try using fusion-icon
[09:26] <Jucato> ...
[09:26] <helpy> how do i do that maggo ?
[09:26] <HollowPoint> sudo apt-get install fusion-icon
[09:27] <Jucato> HollowPoint: it's annoying to be reading something only to see it go up numerous times because of senseless flooding
[09:27] <yinung_> i can't google please help
[09:27] <helpy> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:27] <helpy> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:27] <flaccid> !adeptfix | helpy
[09:27] <helpy> and btw its gone again
[09:27] <helpy> :s
[09:27] <maggo> helpy: close adept if it's open
[09:27] <HollowPoint> lol you're obviously easily annoyed, if it was 10 lines or so yeah, and yeah yeah I know more than 3 lines should be in pastebin yada yada yada but it was a joke and you got annoyed because I used more than one line. Doesn't that seem the slightest bit petty to you? lol
[09:27] <Jucato> helpy: if you have Adept Manager or Add/Remove Programs running, close it
[09:28] <flaccid> helpy: i expected that.
[09:28] <helpy> ok done flaccid
[09:28] <Jucato> HollowPoint: no
[09:28] <lgucomtech> i can't update using sudo apt-get update, i think there's a problem on my proxy settings..
[09:28] <flaccid> helpy: which is why i didn't suggest just replaceing the window decs
[09:28] <helpy> still no windows borders
[09:28] <helpy> :s
[09:29] <HollowPoint> lol do my job for a day and you'll have a little more patience and not be quite so easily annoyed, if I let something that small anger me every day I'd be dead from a heart attack by now
[09:29] <HollowPoint> anyway must stop the idle chat, it's a support room after all
[09:29] <yinung_> i can't help i cant read
[09:29] <flaccid> helpy: there won't be any until you listen to us :)
[09:29] <helpy> ok now what flaccid ?
[09:29] <maggo> helpy: with fusion-icon you can restart compiz, change window-dekorator and so on with a right click on the symbol in the systray
[09:30] <flaccid> helpy: i'm still waiting for my first request from you
[09:30] <Jucato> HollowPoint: this *is* my job (not that I get paid) and there are channel rules which say "don't flood". and yes it is idle chat
[09:30] <maggo> helpy: before you have to start fusion-icon :-)
[09:30] <helpy> and thats is flaccid ?
[09:30] <flaccid> helpy: i've repeated it at least 2 times already
[09:30]  * Daisuke_Ido weeps
[09:30] <flaccid> you might want to scroll back
[09:31] <helpy> :s ok
[09:31] <lgucomtech> it wont works, update failed
[09:31] <lgucomtech> cant update using sudo apt-get
[09:31] <flaccid> !doesntwork | lgucomtech
[09:31] <flaccid> errors are required to know what the um error is
[09:31] <helpy> done
[09:31] <helpy> fusion icon installed
[09:31] <yinung_> the one who can read is lucky and gets fast helpy
[09:32] <flaccid> helpy: that wasn't my request :)
[09:32] <helpy> who said that ?
[09:32] <flaccid> yeah reading, listening and co-operation usually is required to fix your problem :)
[09:32] <helpy> you all are flooding the channel
[09:32] <helpy> i can't concentrate :(
[09:32] <flaccid> lol
[09:32] <helpy> i have closed adpet manager
[09:33] <helpy> if that was your request
[09:33] <flaccid> helpy: konversation has a scroll so you can scroll back
[09:33]  * helpy scroll backs and tries to read from the deluge
[09:33] <flaccid> helpy: here is the request for the 3rd and last time: [18:20] <flaccid> helpy: pastebin ps aux | grep kwin; ps aux | grep compiz please
[09:33] <lgucomtech> thanks dude..
[09:33] <lgucomtech> everythings fine..
[09:33] <helpy> i have to write it in console ?
[09:33] <flaccid> if you can't do it then what you are expecting is magic to fix your problem, which doesn't actually exist :)
[09:33] <helpy> with please in the end ?
[09:34] <flaccid> helpy: command is this: ps aux | grep kwin; ps aux | grep compiz
[09:34] <helpy> ok
[09:34] <helpy> done
[09:34] <flaccid> now you paste the link to the pastebin here so we can check it out
[09:35] <helpy> done
[09:35] <lgucomtech> one more questions.. can i installed my Starcraft Brood War on Ubuntu/Kubuntu? any plugins?
[09:35] <flaccid> i don't see a link helpy
[09:35] <helpy> ahhh
[09:35] <helpy> how do i get that ?
[09:36] <flaccid> you copy it from your browser window and paste it here.  however you did say [18:23] <helpy> i know pastebin
[09:37] <HollowPoint> you in Aus flaccid?
[09:37] <helpy> bash: pastebin: command not found
[09:37] <helpy> minhaaj   5942  0.0  0.0   1696   368 ?        S    12:27   0:00 kwrapper ksmserver --windowmanager /usr/bin/compiz
[09:37] <helpy> minhaaj   5944  0.0  0.8  27276  8444 ?        S    12:27   0:00 ksmserver [kdeinit] --windowmanager /usr/bin/compiz
[09:37] <helpy> minhaaj   6071  0.0  0.0   1772   536 ?        S    12:27   0:00 /bin/sh /usr/bin/compiz --sm-client-id 10e9d7756e000121253545500000060100000
[09:37] <helpy> minhaaj   6131  1.5  2.5  41092 26644 ?        S    12:27   1:02 /usr/bin/compiz.real --ignore-desktop-hints --replace --indirect-rendering --sm-client-id 10e9d7756e000121253545500000060100000 core ccp
[09:37] <helpy> minhaaj  11138  0.0  0.0   3008   772 pts/1    S+   13:36   0:00 grep compiz
[09:37] <flaccid> hehe. we were right from the start 1) you are a troller 2) you are ignorant and 3) the problem is compiz as its running atm!
[09:37] <helpy> you want me to shut down compiz at all ?
[09:38] <flaccid> users who come for help then claim they know what the problem is and isn't always amuses me :)
[09:38] <helpy> :(
[09:38] <flaccid> helpy: yes that was the second thing i asked you to do lol
[09:38] <nainef> is there a way to check for package updates from the command line?
[09:38] <helpy> ok how do i undo that ?
[09:38] <HollowPoint> nainef sudo apt-get update
[09:38] <maggo> <- spinning around on his chair :-)
[09:38] <helpy> how do i shut down compiz ?
[09:38] <nainef> ok thank you
[09:39] <flaccid> helpy: [18:18] <flaccid> helpy: that doesn't conclude anything at all. that is merely an assumption. so what you can do is do this kwin --replace and see if you get them back.
[09:39] <flaccid> helpy: also don't repeat.
[09:39] <helpy> yea got em all
[09:39] <helpy> :)
[09:39]  * helpy hugglifies flaccid
[09:39] <flaccid> right so now helpy have you learnt any lessons today?
[09:39] <helpy> yep, but trust me i was also flooded with all of you
[09:40] <helpy> i kinda flipped out
[09:40] <helpy> :(
[09:40] <flaccid> there is always the scroll and logs
[09:40] <HollowPoint> you were flooded with 4 people telling you to do the same thing at one point and you refused so I see flaccids point\
[09:40] <flaccid> so no need to worry, just take your time reading people's messages. like i just demonstrated if you had of done that with the first 2 things i asked, you would not of gone through any of that..
[09:41] <flaccid> helpy: now if you decide to run compiz again. keep in mind the problem is with that if it doesn't give you window decorations. also if you read the wiki link which i also showed you earlier it will tell you how to make sure you get window decorations in compiz-fusion on kde..
[09:42] <HollowPoint> flaccid he's gone mate
[09:42] <flaccid> yeah, i did it for logging purposes
[09:42] <HollowPoint> lol ok
[09:42] <flaccid> and anyone else interested in reading my vent
[09:43] <HollowPoint> are you in Aussie flaccid?
[09:43] <flaccid> yep in sydney mate
[09:43] <HollowPoint> ah right
[09:43] <HollowPoint> noticed earlier when you pasted something your time stamp was exactly 2 hours behind mine
[09:43] <minhaaj> sorry had to reboot
[09:44] <minhaaj> got your point flaccid thanks :)
[09:44] <flaccid> no worries helpy
[09:44] <flaccid> i'll just pm you my last response as it tells you why it occured in the first place etc.
[09:44] <helpy> i have just switched from windows
[09:44] <helpy> 2 days ago
[09:45] <helpy> and i have fallen in love with kubuntu
[09:45] <flaccid> excellent
[09:45] <HollowPoint> we all do eventually :D
[09:45] <yinung_> someone know how to open .esp vector graphic files ... inkscape doesn't
[09:45] <helpy> yea its ages ahead of vista
[09:46] <helpy> my last OS that i have come to hate more than anything
[09:46] <kuil> hi all.. any java users/developers here using (k)ubuntu hardy?.. I seem to have a lot of crashes while running java programs.. (netbeans, maven compilation, etc)....
[09:48] <nainef> isn't openjdk still a  werk in progress?
[09:49] <kuil> nainef: I think it is yes...
[09:49] <kuil> some parts are still not finished
[09:49] <nainef> is the normal jdk from sun still an option?
[09:50] <Pennycook> Yes it is.  I found OpenJDK to be rubbish, threw compilation errors for perfectly valid Java.
[09:50] <kuil> nainef: why would'nt it be? I have installed jdk6.0 here... (by hand though)
[09:51] <Pennycook> kuil: I've been having problems with NetBeans and menubars, but everything else seems to be fine.
[09:51] <kuil> hmm.. .. netbeans just 'dissapears' on me
[09:52] <Pennycook> Did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[09:52] <kuil> Pennycook: yes
[09:52] <nainef> that package is always the first one I install
[09:53] <Pennycook> kuil: OpenJDK is installed as a part of kubuntu-restricted-extras; even though you've got JDK6 installed there might be a few problems with conflicting jdk's and whatnot.
[09:53] <kuil> ah..
[09:53]  * nainef smacks head......
[09:54] <nainef> The idea behind openjdk is a great one but it still needs a lot of work
[09:54] <kuil> hopefully that's the problem...
[09:54] <Pennycook> kuil: Run java -version.
[09:54] <kuil> nainef: I agree
[09:54] <kuil> Pennycook: that returned my 'manually' installed jdk version
[09:54] <kuil> java version "1.6.0_0
[09:55] <kuil> 6
[09:55] <kuil> but openjdk is far from perfect as I understood :(
[09:55] <kuil> hopefully this will work.. wait and see .. thx!
[09:56] <Pennycook> Yeah, I can only recommend getting rid of OpenJDK
[09:57] <flaccid> sun java is the only 1 i end up trusting and even then i get the odd exception on stable apps which is very annoying (v6)
[09:57] <minhaaj> is there a way to get google toolbar working with firefox in kubuntu ?
[09:57] <kuil> flaccid: 'the odd exception' ?
[09:58] <flaccid> yeah java exception
[09:58] <kuil> flaccid: where java just crashes?
[09:59] <flaccid> no um i guess you don't know what an exception is in computing
[09:59] <flaccid> kuil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exception_handling
[10:00] <kuil> flaccid: I do know java (and exception handling).. just don't understand your problem with jdk6 (in coparison with jdk 5?)
[10:00] <HollowPoint> minhaaj what do you want the toolbar for exactly?
[10:01] <HollowPoint> there is a search bar in the top right of firefox in Kubuntu and it searches google directly
[10:01] <flaccid> kuil: it was throwing exceptions  on some routines that it shouldn't. i compared it to java5 and other platforms.
[10:01] <flaccid> java5 and other platforms did the same .java fine
[10:01] <kuil> flaccid: ah..
[10:01] <kuil> we have skipped java5 here.. moved from 1.4 to 6
[10:01] <flaccid> which makes you throw something out the window or at least want to
[10:02] <kuil> I understand
[10:02] <flaccid> well on the desktop im thinking stuff java now and simply build for different archs/platforms. days are different now
[10:04] <kuil> flaccid: it's hard to move an existing application to a different platform though
[10:04] <flaccid> yep. i wonder if someone has thought about making some sort of java to c++ interpreter/wrapper
[10:20] <ocs> Hi. there's something wich conflicts with the serial port. In fact, when i ifdown eth0, the serial port goes sensibly faster.. but NOT as faster as i expect. so, the serial port conflicts with something else... how can i check that ? thnk
[10:25] <JackWinter> i just set up a virtual desktop with webcams of places around the world which i love.  at the moment i have them in several konqueror windows, but was wondering if there was a better application for the purpose, especially one where i could set the update frequence, since many cams stop streaming the jpeg after a while
[10:26] <ircleuser> hi
[10:27] <ircleuser> anyone know if ftp can upload a file in the background?
[10:28] <ircleuser> hi
[10:32] <mooper> why is the copy and paste so utterly usless on kubuntu
[10:32] <mooper> ??
[10:33] <JackWinter> mooper: what's useless about it ?
[10:34] <mooper> Actually I fixed it. I was trying to copy something from Adobe reader to an email in thunderbird and it wouldnt go into clipper. I  cleared the clipbead history and it worked
[10:35] <mooper> JackWinter, so its not that usless, merely annoying
[10:35] <JackWinter> mooper: ok, my self i didn't really have any probs with it sofar ;)
[10:38] <Haza1> Morning folks!
[10:38] <steve555> Morining Hazal
[10:39] <Haza1> I gotta say... im LOVING kubuntu! :D
[10:39] <steve555> did you manage to get compiz to work?
[10:39] <Haza1> steve555: Me?
[10:39] <steve555> Yeah
[10:40] <Haza1> steve555: Heheh, i din't realise i way trying. I think you may have me mixed up :)
[10:40] <HollowPoint> tis evening for me
[10:40] <HollowPoint> but morning
[10:40] <steve555> Yeah I think I have,I'm sorry
[10:41] <Haza1> steve555: No problems mate!
[10:41] <steve555> I'm glad you like kubuntu anyway.
[10:42] <HollowPoint> just switched from Windows?
[10:42] <needhelp> hi, is there a command line to ftp upload a file over? just like rsync file server://location/ -avP ?
[10:42] <steve555> I haven't personally,I'm still dual-booting with Windows XP Professional.
[10:42] <HollowPoint> ah right
[10:43] <Haza1> I have just switched from windows on my laptop
[10:43] <Haza1> the machine i use on a daily basis
[10:43] <HollowPoint> needhelp are you trying to ftp a file to an ftp server you have a username and password for?
[10:43] <Haza1> my server is Ubuntu
[10:43] <Haza1> but i can avoid doing much on the server so i didn't really learn much
[10:43] <Haza1> Now that i have no choice but to use *nix im finding it really really good
[10:44] <needhelp> HollowPoint: yes
[10:44] <HollowPoint> my home machine is Kubuntu, my work laptop was Kubuntu until my boss made me put Windows back on because he doesn't understand Linux and I have several servers on this home machine in the form of VMs
[10:44] <HollowPoint> needhelp have you tried download filezilla from the repos?
[10:44] <Haza1> HollowPoint: There is not much turning back here. I removed my "factory reset" windows partition :D
[10:45] <HollowPoint> lol so did I on my Work Laptop, just re-installed Windows from scratch when I needed to, factory reset partitions are usually crap anyway, HP by any chance?
[10:45] <needhelp> HollowPoint: I have filezilla..but is there a command line which do the job?
[10:45] <blivori> How do I autologin an account
[10:46] <Haza1> HollowPoint: IBM. and i have to say... the factory reset on this lappy was REALLY good too
[10:46] <HollowPoint> lol
[10:46] <Haza1> press a button wait a while, windows is back with all drivers ect working
[10:46] <Haza1> although this lappy cost me £2500 about 2 years ago
[10:47] <HollowPoint> needhelp it should just be ftp /path/to/file ser.ver.add.ress username password
[10:47] <HollowPoint> if you need more pointers just type man ftp in the command line, that will give you the manual page
[10:48] <steve555> is it an anonymous login?
[10:48] <HollowPoint> steve555 no he has a username and password for it
[10:48] <HollowPoint> Haza1 sounds like a nice laptop mate
[10:49] <Haza1> Its still running pretty well. I think the resolution had something to do with the price
[10:50] <HollowPoint> needhelp type ftp ser.ver.add.ress and press enter in console, it should give you a username prompt
[10:50] <HollowPoint> from there is relatively easy if it's a linux box that the ftp server is running on
[10:53] <HollowPoint> needhelp did it work?
[10:54] <steve555> I think you might need samba as a "go-between" between linux and windows.I'm pretty sure you need something that will bridge between the two different platforms.That is my guess anyway.
[10:54] <HollowPoint> huh?
[10:59] <Haza1> This might be a silly question. but is there an easy way to define ODBC conncetions to MS ACCESS .mdb files in Kubuntu?
[11:00] <HollowPoint> define ODBC connections for what reason? From what program?
[11:01] <Haza1> I need to define a ODBC connection to use with my ETL tool
[11:01] <flaccid> !odbc | Haza1
[11:01] <flaccid> Haza1: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ODBC
[11:01] <flaccid> google is handy :)
[11:01] <Haza1> heheh, Cheers!
[11:01] <Haza1> Back soon
[11:01] <_Angelus_> E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial is missing.
[11:01] <_Angelus_> how can i fix this?
[11:02] <flaccid> !info mdbtools
[11:02] <yinung_> sudo mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/ _Angelus_
[11:03] <_Angelus_> thanks bro
[11:33] <frybye> hi all - lag??
[11:39] <ubunturos> !hi |  frybye, ;)
[11:43] <frybye> quiet!
[11:43] <frybye> nothing much happening or lag?
[11:48] <FSHero> hi
[11:48] <FSHero> I have a question, if you are willing to answer! :)
[11:49] <ubunturos> !who | FSHero
[11:50] <FSHero> Right sorry! I want to move my kubuntu installation to another partition. (I didn't plan my installation as well as I should have...)
[11:50] <FSHero> I was reading: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=354095
[11:50] <FSHero> Could I just confirm: should I run kdesudo konqueror and then literally _copy_ the contents of / to the partition I want the Kubuntu to be on?
[11:53] <flaccid> FSHero: yeah if its not in use ie. use livecd. you also have to make sure you copy all the files (hidden files included)
[11:53] <flaccid> actually i can't be 100% sure but
[11:53] <FSHero> flaccid: can I use Knoppix 5.3.?
[11:54] <FSHero> flaccid: * Knoppix 5.3.1
[11:54] <flaccid> not sure if that will retain unix perm ids correctly but i guess it should. i would usually tar
[11:55] <flaccid> FSHero: yeah
[11:55] <flaccid> id probaby google a bit more and ask in #ubuntu and #linux . could be something im missing
[11:55] <FSHero> flaccid: ok thx
[11:55] <FSHero> flaccid: I shall do so later
[12:03] <vlt> Hello. How can I set the umask kmail uses when saving attachments to the file system?
[12:19] <cryingtux> hello
[12:20] <cryingtux> i have installed kubuntu now, should i add the multimedia repos now or do i need to get all the upgrades first?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: either way is fine, I always update and upgrade new installs
[12:22] <bazhang> cryingtux, your choice; kubuntu-restricted-extras is what you want though
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> but thats personal preference
[12:23] <cryingtux> yes and somebody gave me a link for adding win32 codecs
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> !win32codecs
[12:23] <cryingtux> bazhang: once i have set my system, can i make a custom remaste of it??
[12:24] <bazhang> !uck | cryingtux
[12:25] <cryingtux> *remaster
[12:25] <cryingtux> bazhang: is uck there in repo? or do i have to manually install it?
[12:26] <bazhang> apt-cache search uck cryingtux
[12:26] <cryingtux> thanks
[12:28] <True> hi guys
[12:28] <True> i ve got a question
[12:29] <True> any native speaker from North America ?
[12:29] <True> what does "Wortsel Grinder Mark 4" mean ?
[12:29] <True> i cant even find it in google
[12:29] <chalcedony> True: sounds like a brand name
[12:30] <chalcedony> i read and understand English .. was born here
[12:30] <True> Only the other day, for example, I ran into an old Wortsel Grinder Mark 4
[12:30] <True> (with the filigreed flanges and reverberating notchet tattles). I didn’t have
[12:30] <True> a clue what to do with it, so you can only imagine how foolish I felt.
[12:30] <True> this is the context
[12:31] <bazhang> this is offtopic True
[12:31] <True> i cant find even the word "notchet" in dictionary
[12:31] <True> i know this is off topic but just question
[12:31] <chalcedony> True: wonder what notchet tattles relate to.. some type of machinery .. a mechanical forum might look
[12:31] <True> one
[12:31] <bazhang> True, not for here
[12:31] <bazhang> !ot
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> notchet is like a little indented hole, like on a fife
[12:40] <haryono> any one can help?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> !ask | haryono
[12:40] <steve555> what's the problem haryono?
[12:42] <haryono> Action I want to know how to run webcam in kubuntu, how to make my YM online in Kubuntu and how ti make my kontact appear in kubuntu
[12:42] <steve555> is YM Yahoo Messenger?
[12:42] <haryono> steve Yes
[12:43] <steve555> I can answer that one,you need to install the program called pidgin via adept.
[12:43] <Dr_willis> !im
[12:45] <haryono> It was connect to YM but only the contact list appear no online contact  appear signed
[12:46] <haryono> ubottu i had open http://kopete.kde.org...what next..?
[12:47] <Dr_willis> I would say read the docs :)
[12:47] <Dr_willis> that site is the  the homepage for the Kopete IM client. It can tell you what features it has.
[12:47] <steve555> Ah you need to launch pidgin,select the buddies drop-down list,then,show,then make sure the offline buddies is ticked.
[12:47] <Dr_willis> pidgin is also a popylar IM client. that may do what you want. I dont use either one.
[12:48] <Dragnslcr> Kopete supports webcam in YIM
[12:49] <steve555> I wan't sure if kopete did.I think I did try it once,but didn't have much success with it.It was sometime ago since I last tried it.
[12:51] <Pennycook> Pidgin doesn't have webcam.
[12:52] <suze> !pate
[12:52] <suze> !paste
[12:55] <True> hi guys
[12:55] <True> i was banned from perl channel a year ago
[12:55] <True> im still banned :)
[12:55] <True> what do i need to do ?
[12:55] <Dr_willis> msg the channel ops i guess
[12:56] <True> i have gone to military service i ve completed it and im back still banned :)
[12:56] <True> so funny
[12:57] <Dr_willis> could just be a wide ban thats including your isp/mask
[12:59] <bandit_> systemsettings Than it is a command Differs from kcontrol ?
[13:04] <yakuzi> guys, i've a problem concerning the 24-18 kernel. after a booted, i saw some updates to do so i did them, one of them was (again) a new kernel (i'v installed this laptop with the 24-16, updates shortly ago to 24-17 and now it gave me an update to 24-18)
[13:04] <_Angelus_> Warning!!  Unsupported GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected. Use GNU Parted.
[13:04] <_Angelus_> what can i do to fix this?
[13:04] <yakuzi> last time i got a message the update could break something and that it stopped or something, this time, the same...but now the new kernel doesn't appear in grub (dual boot pc by the way)
[13:04] <hw> !aptitude
[13:04] <Dr_willis> run the gparted tool like it suggests?
[13:05] <hw> !fix
[13:05] <hw> !fix_lock
[13:05] <hw> Hmm, how do I fix "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)" errors?
[13:05] <_Angelus_> Dr_willis: ... the thing is, it only suggests that, and nothing more
[13:05] <yakuzi> if i look on my /boot i see that i've only 2.1 MB free, that or all 3 kernels all files are there execept for the 24-18 there's a gzip file missing
[13:05] <Pennycook> !apt-fix | hw
[13:06] <yakuzi> is there a safe way to clean up or getthe new kernel working?
[13:06] <haryono> Dragnstcr My kopete cant perform YM Webcam why?
[13:07] <hw> Pennycook: Thx!
[13:07] <Dr_willis> _Angelus_,  have  you actually ran the tool yet? Ive seen it 'suggest a fix' when it finds bad setups.
[13:08] <hw> !java
[13:08] <_Angelus_> Dr_willis:  i just want a way to change the disk from GPT to MBR
[13:08] <prinzubuntuuu> hi
[13:08] <prinzubuntuuu> can anyone help me with the installation of my wacom graphic tablet?
[13:08] <Dr_willis> _Angelus_,  ive never heard of 'gpt' befor.
[13:09] <_Angelus_> Dr_willis: not used on normal pcs, usually used on maca
[13:09] <_Angelus_> *macs
[13:09] <bandit_> !kcontrol
[13:09] <bandit_> !systemsettings
[13:10] <hw> !thx
[13:11] <hw> Ok, thx to ubottu
[13:11] <yakuzi> !kernel update
[13:11] <yakuzi> !kernel
[13:14] <drmarwat> hello
[13:15] <drmarwat> can i have kubuntu 8.04 repositories list here please?
[13:15] <Dr_willis> _Angelus_,  i would imagine you will have to delete the partitions,  or perhaps dd it to zero it out. then repartition
[13:15] <drmarwat> i wanna change the repos to some faster mirrors
[13:18] <haryono> any one can fix my problem?
[13:21] <KR-data> when I open some applications such as eclipse, it tells me that I use an unknown locale, what can I do about that?
[13:24] <haryono> any one caaaan fix my problem
[13:25] <KR-data> haryono, I didn't see your question (entered after you asked)
[13:26] <haryono> dta my question is how to open webcam in kopte YM?
[13:26] <Pennycook> haryono: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=kopete%20webcam%20support&comzone=show
[13:26] <KR-data> haryono, sorry, can't help you there :(
[13:27] <haryono> Penny cook t5hanks i try
[13:27] <hw> Does anyone what eclipse version is used in hardy? Gutsy still uses 3.2.2 even when eclipse 3.3 is out
[13:27] <nosrednaekim> !info eclipse
[13:29] <hw> Is anywhere documented why eclipse 3.3.x is not used?
[13:29] <KR-data> hw, why don't you just download it as a tar unpack it in a folder and execute it from there?
[13:31] <haryono> nosred can i ask you now?
[13:32] <hw> KR-data: Cause eclipse provided by ubuntu and when I'll do the next upgrade (as I did today) I'll be sure that my system is fine
[13:33] <KR-data> hw, I've never experienced trouble with eclipse installed that way, but when installed via the package manager I had a lot of trouble with the update manager in eclipse
[13:35] <hw> KR-data: You just need to use the correct JVM then eclipse is no problem at all
[13:36] <KR-data> hw, well it might have change, but there was some things I couldn't install because of permission issues with the update manager
[13:37] <hw> KR-data: Not on my site =)
[13:38] <KR-data> hw, hehe ok :) well I just decided to decompress it in a folder local to my user, problem solved ;)
[13:39] <mooper> the toggle keys have stopped working on my kubuntu install. has anyone encountered this before
[13:39] <mooper> could this be slow keys/
[13:39] <drmarwat> ! uck
[13:39] <mooper> if so, how do i disable cos i cant use capitals
[13:39] <Pennycook> Given that Netbeans is free and Open Source, why is there no package for Netbeans 6 in the repos?
[13:40] <_Angelus_> Dr_willis: how can i do that?
[13:44] <mooper> it is very annoying, show key seems to be doing the business.... i cant for the life of me work out what is going on
[13:44] <_Angelus_> Dr_willis_:  how can i do that?
[13:48] <hdevalence> When I try to launch mplayer from the command line, it says AO: [pulse] cannot connect to server: connection refused. And I don't get any sound running speaker-test either.
[13:48] <Dr_Willis_WithAL> Lovely How My ISP is acting this week.
[13:48] <hdevalence> is there a way to reboot the sound system
[13:49] <Dr_Willis_WithAL> hdevalence,  set mplayer to use some other audio system. not Pulse
[13:49] <Dr_Willis_WithAL> set it to ALSA
[13:53] <mooper> where do i controll my keyboard settings/
[13:54] <hdevalence> So I set mplayer to use alsa and get no error but no sound
[13:54] <mooper> as in system, properties, keyboard
[13:54] <nosrednaekim> hdevalence: set it to alsa in systemsettings->sound
[13:55] <hdevalence> hmm
[13:56] <Dr_willis> My lovely ISP..  every so often it just goes berzerk and lags me to death. :(
[13:59] <xt828_> i dunno how often people refer to comcast as 'lovely'
[14:00] <xt828_> so, every time i insert my USB stick it mounts itself again, but never removes the previous mounting, leaving me with atm 5 different mounts of which only one is correct
[14:00] <xt828_> how do i refresh it and remove the spurious mounts?
[14:00] <nosrednaekim> xt828_: thats a known bug... look for it on launchpad
[14:00] <nosrednaekim> my freind had that problem
[14:00] <xt828_> oh, okay
[14:00] <xt828_> will rebooting remove the extras?
[14:01] <nosrednaekim> I don't think so IIRC
[14:01] <xt828_> how annoying
[14:01] <nosrednaekim> indeed
[14:02] <xt828_> is there a walkthrough that you know of on how to install windows onto a system that has linux without buggarising the bootloader thingy?
[14:02] <xt828_> all the dualboot walkthroughs seem to be install windows then linux
[14:04] <nosrednaekim> xt828: what you do is install windows, then boot a liveCD and reinstll grub
[14:04] <nosrednaekim> !grub
[14:04] <xt828> ah, sweet
[14:05] <maltedik^live> hi. what the hell is wrong with ubuntu 8.04? hda became sda and sda sdb! i'm scared!!!
[14:05] <nosrednaekim> maltedik^live: thats normal
[14:05] <maltedik^live> so hdx is dead?
[14:06] <maltedik^live> and its save to install on sdb if i want to install on my one and only s-ata-drive?
[14:07] <Dr_willis> !libata | maltedik^live
[14:07] <Dr_willis> maltedik^live,  thats due to changes in the way the IDE drives are handled. Many disrtos are doing it that way also.
[14:08] <maltedik^live> Dr_willis: so this new nomenclature is done by libata. ok. im reliefed
[14:08] <Dr_willis> maltedik^live,   teeres a factoid on  the topic but i forget what it is.
[14:08] <Dr_willis> maltedik^live,  something like that.
[14:08] <Dr_willis> maltedik^live,  just done accidently format sda that USED to be your ide drive.. like i did once
[14:09] <voonte> what's the recommended way in kubuntu to install a package that's not yet in the repo? i need strigi v0.5.9 instead of v0.5.7
[14:09] <maltedik^live> that happens when everything works too nicely and you stop reading the hardcore-news
[14:09] <maltedik^live> ;)
[14:09] <nosrednaekim> voonte: first, try to find a deb in a PPA/getdeb , if you can't find it there, go compile it :)
[14:10] <maltedik^live> voonte: you might aswell compile it directly as debian-package. if you just do it for yourself, its not hard at all
[14:10] <teh-mole> hey all
[14:10] <maltedik^live> Dr_willis: yeah. i think ill do a backup first :D
[14:11] <voonte> ok, i saw that the intrepid repository had the version I needed, but how do I take just strigi without getting all the other upgrades?
[14:11] <maltedik^live> maybe pull the package and install it with dpkg?
[14:12] <voonte> maltedik^live, i'll try that thanks
[14:12] <maltedik^live> dpkg -i package-blalanaldfda.deb
[14:14] <hdevalence> I set the KDE sound system to ALSA and  even rebooted the computer but it still doesn't work, with or without running X
[14:15] <voonte> i suppose I could get it through packages.ubuntu.com but then I have to manually get all files I need. can't I just tell aptitude somehow to use the intrepid repository for the strigi packages?
[14:16] <thompa> hi all, problem with dvd drive noise here on a toshib. satellite notebook
[14:17] <thompa> if i put in data dvd no problem, dvd movie makes drive run like a truck
[14:18] <farhad_hf> hi
[14:19] <farhad_hf> my dvdwriter is powered off i think... it does not eject even with eject -m . i had this problem once before. i restarted and it solved. but how can i solve it for ever? (kubuntu hardy)
[14:20] <farhad_hf> and sorry for my poor english!
[14:20] <thompa> farhad_hf: can you just unmount it
[14:21] <gianluca> gy guys this error : no 80 conductor cable installed can be give by alimentation?
[14:22] <gianluca> this comes out after ceck of ram
[14:22] <thompa> farhad_hf: im having dvd drive problems, runs too loud with movies
[14:22] <farhad_hf> thompa: i unmounted it and ejected it about 15mins ago. but it does not eject now.
[14:23] <thompa> farhad_hf: did you try another dvd application to run it?
[14:23] <thompa> see if its same in all dvd apps
[14:24] <teh-mole> you sure your dvds arnt just dirty?
[14:24] <farhad_hf> i can not eject it to insert a disk!
[14:24] <teh-mole> lol oh yeh
[14:24] <teh-mole> :S
[14:24] <x_link> Hi!
[14:24] <x_link> I just installed xmms2
[14:24] <x_link> Cause there is no xmms in hardy.
[14:25] <x_link> But when I right-click on a mp3-file and choose Open With I can't see xmms2
[14:25] <x_link> Why is that?
[14:25] <thompa> farhad_hf: what application is running dvd?
[14:25] <farhad_hf> it is turned off i think.
[14:25] <farhad_hf> thompa: hm?
[14:25] <thompa> farhad_hf: sudo eject
[14:26] <x_link> Anybody=?
[14:28] <farhad_hf> thompa: tnx. it ejected
[14:28] <thompa> farhad_hf: what opens it when you put it in?
[14:29] <thompa> farhad_hf: there is some way to check what is locking it up with tail command, not too sure
[14:29] <x_link> So nobody can help me?
[14:30] <thompa> can anyone help me? my dvd drive sounds way too loud when playing
[14:30] <genii> x_link: Please restate your issue, I've only just arrived
[14:30] <x_link> Alright.
[14:30] <x_link> I just installed xmms2 in hardy, cause there is no xmms.
[14:31] <x_link> But I can't right-click on my files and choose to Open With xmms2
[14:31] <x_link> Why is that?
[14:31] <thompa> x_link: type in the command
[14:31] <x_link> thompa: Type in the command? How do you mean?
[14:31] <thompa> x_link: does xmms work in terminal?
[14:31] <KR-data> is there a way to log all files a program comes into contact with?
[14:32] <thompa> x_link: accessories: terminal   try first xmms2
[14:32] <thompa> see if it even comes up
[14:32] <x_link> Ahha okey
[14:33] <maggo> KR-data: lsof -p PID
[14:33] <maggo> KR-data: or strace -p pid -e trace=open,read,write,close
[14:33] <KR-data> maggo, but won't that just return what files it uses at the moment?
[14:33] <karolina> Hi all:)
[14:33] <thompa> x_link: there should be something like right click open with . then type command xmms2
[14:34] <x_link> thompa:
[14:34] <x_link> sedde@sedde:~$ xmms2
[14:34] <x_link> xmms2: error while loading shared libraries: libxmmsclient.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:34] <KR-data> maggo, strace, sounds like something for my problem (I hope)
[14:34] <x_link> I can't even find xmms2
[14:35] <x_link> But isn't there any other mp3-player?
[14:35] <thompa> x_link: there are lots
[14:35] <x_link> Somebody told me to install a program last time I was here, but I don't remember the name of the player.
[14:35] <x_link> Starts with "a"
[14:35] <farhad_hf> thompa: i dont know how. but i think you can solve it by using hdparm
[14:35] <x_link> audio-something.
[14:35] <thompa> x_link: amarok
[14:35] <x_link> thompa: No, not that.
[14:36] <x_link> audioci-something I believe.
[14:36] <thompa> farhad_hf: thanks, in think thats what i was looking for
[14:36] <thompa> x_link: audacity
[14:36] <x_link> thompa: Exactly =)
[14:36] <x_link> thompa: Are you happy with Hardy?
[14:37] <thompa> x_link: well in add remove programs are many players, install mp3 support or kubuntu restricted first
[14:38] <thompa> x_link: im using rythmbox to play mp3s
[14:38] <x_link> Hurmm...  audacity didn't look like this the last time.
[14:38] <x_link> The one I tried looks just like xmms
[14:38] <x_link> Maybe it was something else thenm.
[14:39] <thompa> x_link: not audacity
[14:39] <thompa> x_link: are you trying to listen to music? or do you want to edit sound
[14:40] <thompa> x_link: audacious
[14:40] <thompa> x_link: i think yuo are looking for audacious
[14:41] <thompa> x_link: its winamp style
[14:41] <x_link> thompa: Yes audacious
[14:41] <genii> audacity ?
[14:42] <thompa> audacity is sound editor and also records sound card
[14:42] <genii> Ah
[14:42] <thompa> x_link: sudo apt-get install audacious
[14:42] <Haza1> Hey folks. Another question... How comw ehen i plug in an external usb (500gb) HD i cannot find it on my system. Should i not get a nice popup to "explore" the new USB storage device?
[14:42] <x_link> thompa: Already did that =)
[14:42] <x_link> I use aptitude.
[14:43] <x_link> thompa: Thanks alot!
[14:43] <thompa> x_link: do you have mp3 support installed?
[14:43] <x_link> thompa: libk3b
[14:43] <thompa> x_link: ok no problem,   i got dvd nois problem here
[14:43] <x_link> thompa: Alright =/
[14:43] <x_link> I hope it will work out for you =)
[14:44] <x_link> I just HATE that I can't use ksensors anymore =/
[14:44] <x_link> Not with my new CPU =/
[14:44] <x_link> It worked just fine with my Intel Dual-Core E2200, with that CPU I could see my CPU-temp in ksensors
[14:44] <souheil> hello people
[14:44] <thompa> x_link: i got a new laptop and vista is awful, ubuntu makes me feel like i at least own this machine
[14:44] <x_link> thompa: When I installed lm-sensors I just had to modprobe it87 and modprobe coretemp.
[14:44] <souheil> i don't think so
[14:44] <x_link> But with my new CPU I can't run modprobe coretemp.
[14:45] <souheil> vista is so ###########
[14:45] <thompa> x_link: you dont need to do that
[14:45] <x_link> thompa: When I installed lm-sensors it stod that I had to put in it87 and coretemp and the end.
[14:45] <x_link> But with this new E8400 it only says that I have to do modprobe it87, not coretemp.
[14:45] <arne-rm> Hi there. My problem is: I want to delete a file. Sounds simple? As root I issued "rm file_id.diz", result: "rm: cannot remove `file_id.diz': Operation not permitted"
[14:46] <arne-rm> These are the mount options:
[14:46] <x_link> The thing is that I NEED coretemp for ksensors to be able to show my CPU-temp.
[14:46] <souheil> does anyone know where can i find a good tuto for linux konsole
[14:46] <arne-rm>  /dev/sda2 on /mnt/m type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[14:46] <arne-rm> tried getfacl
[14:46] <x_link> thompa: But that has nothing to do with Kubuntu, but still it's annoying.
[14:46] <souheil> d
[14:47] <arne-rm>  getfacl file_id.diz
[14:47] <arne-rm> # file: file_id.diz; # owner: 500; # group: arnie;user::rw-;group::r--;other::r--
[14:47] <souheil>  behi
[14:47] <thompa> x_link: there is computertemp apet i use, but its gnome
[14:47] <llutz> arne-rm: lsattr file_id.diz
[14:47] <arne-rm> -----a-A--Z-E--tT- file_id.diz
[14:48] <x_link> thompa: Shame =/
[14:48] <x_link> thompa: You know anything else for KDE except for ksensors/lm-sensors?
[14:48] <llutz> arne-rm: sudo chattr -a file_id.diz
[14:48] <thompa> x_link: go into synaptics or whatever search computer temp
[14:48] <x_link> Okey
[14:48] <x_link> aptitude search computer-temp maybe=)
[14:49] <arne-rm> yup, worked. Thanks :-)
[14:49] <thompa> x_link: gdesklets should work
[14:49] <llutz> np
[14:49] <x_link> Okey, I will install it.
[14:49]  * arne-rm is off reading the chattr manpage
[14:49] <flaccid> go immutables :)
[14:49] <x_link> thompa: I found computertemp, but it's for gnome.
[14:50] <thompa> x_link: what about ksysguard?
[14:51] <thompa> x_link: its installed already, just add the new worksheet
[14:51] <x_link> I will try it.
[14:51] <arne-rm> Only question remaining, how did that flag get there. Maybe some problem with the windows-ext2fsd...
[14:51] <x_link> thompa: It doesn't show any temps.
[14:52] <USMarine> when the bios doesn't recognize an hard drive as bootable, grub must be reinstalled?
[14:52] <flaccid> USMarine: thats not going to help
[14:52] <llutz> arne-rm: possible driver issue
[14:52] <flaccid> it needs to read and bios and they are very separate
[14:52] <USMarine> ok
[14:52] <USMarine> i can mount the /boot using a livecd
[14:52] <flaccid> if it doesn't read in bios, something wrong with hard disk, connection or bios
[14:52] <USMarine> the kernels are there
[14:53] <USMarine> grub also
[14:53] <thompa> x_link: in ksysguard should be hardware sensors
[14:53] <USMarine> i don' know what's wrong
[14:53] <flaccid> USwhats the actual problem
[14:53] <thompa> x_link: im in gnome so cant check
[14:53] <BiteyBite> how do i make real player default player to play diff media files in my FF3 beta 5 on kubuntu 8.04 kde3?
[14:53] <USMarine> flaccid the bios detects the disk, but still asks for a bootable device
[14:53] <flaccid> BiteyBite: ask in #ubuntu or #firefox as its a non-kde app
[14:53] <x_link> thompa: There is something called sensors, but it doesn't show anything.
[14:53] <flaccid> USMarine: you said it didn't recognize it
[14:53] <x_link> thompa: gdesklets is 280MB =)
[14:54] <flaccid> !grubfix | USMarine
[14:54] <flaccid> !fixgrub
[14:54] <USMarine> (14:51:59) (USMarine) when the bios doesn't recognize an hard drive as bootable, grub must be reinstalled?
[14:54] <flaccid> USMarine: reinstall grub yeah
[14:54] <flaccid> and then you go on to say it does detect it :)
[14:54] <thompa> x_link: you got lm-sensors installed right?
[14:54] <USMarine> thought so
[14:54] <x_link> thompa: Yes.
[14:54] <flaccid> what it means is that the mbr is missing on the disk and it needs grub or another mbr like windows mbr for example, so install grub via livecd ^
[14:55] <x_link> thompa: But I need coretemp for it to work.
[14:55] <farhad_hf> is there any application like ypops (in windows) to revert yahoo! webmail with a mail client like kmail?
[14:55] <farhad_hf> is there any application like ypops (in windows) to revert yahoo! webmail with a mail client like kmail?
[14:56] <flaccid> !fetchyahoo | farhad_hf
[14:56] <flaccid> !info fetchyahoo | farhad_hf
[14:59] <flaccid> farhad_hf: there is also also a linux versin of ypops: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=52835&package_id=61134 . google is handy :)
[15:00] <farhad_hf> flaccid: it didnt work about 6mounts age when i tried too use
[15:01] <flaccid> why didn't it work?
[15:01] <farhad_hf> i dont remember! i'll check it now again
[15:01] <flaccid> the date on this current release is (2006-08-01 09:56) which would be quite different to the 6months old version whatever it is
[15:04] <USMarine> flaccid grub was seemed to be the problem
[15:04] <USMarine> system is now bootinh
[15:04] <flaccid> USMarine: according to your error grub was not installed nor any mbr
[15:04] <flaccid> yeah sweet
[15:04] <flaccid> problem was no mbr :)
[15:05] <USMarine> weired
[15:05] <USMarine> cause i didn't change anything
[15:06] <USMarine> except leaving the pc off for some days
[15:06] <flaccid> dang
[15:06] <USMarine> how's the weather in australia?
[15:07] <flaccid> rainy and shiz, not ideal
[15:07] <USMarine> oh :|
[15:10] <Votaguz> Anybody has tested amarok2 ?
[15:10] <flaccid> yep
[15:12] <USMarine> 110 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[15:12] <USMarine> Need to get 117MB of archives.
[15:12] <USMarine> that much? :S
[15:12] <flaccid> not compared to 100GB
[15:12] <Votaguz> flaccid: i have added this repository deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main but i can't find amarok2 package
[15:12] <flaccid> its only much if you dont have the space :)
[15:12] <USMarine> who the hell has 100gb of installed software? :S
[15:13] <flaccid> Votaguz: its in amarok-nightly - google amarok nightly neon
[15:13] <flaccid> i have had it before. i was demonstrating relativeness :)
[15:13] <farhad_hf> flaccid: libssl.so.0.9.7: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory . but in repositories the only version is 0.9.8 and it is installed
[15:14] <flaccid> farhad_hf: what is asking for that?
[15:14] <farhad_hf> flaccid: ./ypops
[15:14] <flaccid> farhad_hf: well you have to satisfy it or you could symlink to the new version and hopefully no issues
[15:15] <flaccid> ie. it might be  libssl.so.0.9.7 > libssl.so.0.9.8
[15:16] <farhad_hf> flaccid: how?
[15:17] <flaccid> farhad_hf: using ln -s
[15:17] <farhad_hf> flaccid: ok. tnx
[15:18] <flaccid> eg. sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7
[15:23] <Votaguz> flaccid: Thx Installing :)
[15:24] <flaccid> np
[15:27] <farhad_hf> flaccid: i found it : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/free-pop3-and-smtp-access-to-yahoo-mail-using-ypops-in-ubuntu.html
[15:27] <farhad_hf> flaccid: i think it is a better way!
[15:28] <farhad_hf> flaccid: but thanks alot
[15:28] <flaccid> farhad_hf: well you found a repos which means you ended up searching, so cool
[15:29] <flaccid> i've never used it or any yahoo stuff :)
[15:29] <farhad_hf> flaccid: :(( but : W: Failed to fetch http://tskariah.000webhost.com/ubuntu/dists/ubuntu/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  302 Moved Temporarily
[15:29] <grendal_prime> hey i removed gnome from this machine now..for some reason it totally messed ut the taskbar of my kubuntu ...I seem to have been able to recreate the things i need with the acception of the...area where docable apps goes?
[15:29] <flaccid> farhad_hf: the repos no longer exists.
[15:30] <nosrednaekim> grendal_prime: system tray?
[15:30] <grendal_prime> whats the name of the app that handles docable apps on the kick
[15:30] <grendal_prime> hmm
[15:31] <grendal_prime> ahhh there it is thank you
[15:41] <Jerenmye> hi, anyone of you ever noticed ugly font rendering of latex pdfs in kpdf in ubunut? (I tried in openSUSE and it was ok...)
[15:54] <BiteyBite> how do i change konqueror back to its default settings?
[15:55] <adz21c> delete the config file i guess
[15:55] <PolitikerNEU> which should be: rm ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc
[15:56] <adz21c> yea, make sure konqs not open while u do it, it might resave when u next close or something annoying like that lol
[15:57] <setuid_w00t> Will the nvidia-glx-new packages be updated to the latest versions provided by nvidia before the next release of kubuntu?
[16:01] <amigrave> I know desktop effects are not official supported, but anyone could tell me which package I should install/use in order to change compiz settings under kubuntu ?
[16:01] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i monitor disk usage?
[16:02] <MetaMorfoziS> i mean that currentyl how it operates (bandwith/etc)
[16:02] <USMarine> amigrave compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:03] <adz21c> MetaMorfoziS: ksysguard can produce lil graphs for stuff like that, as long u wanna see up to moment data not record the info
[16:03] <MetaMorfoziS> and from cli?
[16:04] <adz21c> MetaMorfoziS: dunno what does it for cli, ksysguard is gui app
[16:04] <amigrave> USMarine: thanks
[16:09] <amigrave> qu
[16:09] <_nix_> wha?
[16:10] <yogi> aloo...ada orang indonesia...?
[16:12] <_nix_> hi! I was updating from clicking on adept notifier, however, I think I closed the window that was showing the download progress (bad habits from amarok) but the lights are still blinking. anyway to bring back that window? coz clicking on the system tray icon brings up the adept updater again..
[16:13] <_nix_> which complains that another process is using the database etc.
[16:14] <flaccid> !adeptfix | _nix_
[16:15] <_nix_> that worked! thanks.. I think I'm more comfortable with apt-get update/upgrade route.
[16:17] <_nix_> hehe imho gui still sucks
[16:21] <dru> !lm_sensor
[16:21] <nosrednaekim> !sensors
[16:23] <dru>  thanks nosrednaekim
[16:28] <genii> yogi: I do not accept PM.
[16:31] <Vermux> I tried to edit a file in Konsole but it ssays that it is in use. However, I dont have any other session of Konsole on the screen. any idea?
[16:32] <minhaaj> why does konversaton, firefox and skype start up when i boot kubuntu ?
[16:32] <minhaaj> how do i take them out of start up ?
[16:33] <genii> Vermux: That would likely mean the file you are trying to edit is being used by some other application.
[16:33] <Vermux> genii: I try to edit smb.conf
[16:34] <Vermux> genii: if anything is using it, it was konsole from yesterday, but today I didnt c any session open. I started konsole
[16:34] <genii> Vermux: sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop; sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.conf; sudo testparm;sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[16:34] <adz21c> helpy: did u ever log off with them still running? cos it could be the session restoring or something like that
[16:36] <helpy> yep
[16:36] <helpy> how do i fix that ?
[16:36] <helpy> i want clean boot, no programs on start up
[16:36] <alesan> since an update last night, bluetooth has ceased to work
[16:36] <adz21c> helpy: u need to go to session management, u on kde3 or 4?
[16:36] <alesan> it seems the system does not see the bluetooth device anymore
[16:36] <helpy> hardy heron
[16:37] <adz21c> helpy: yea but is it kde3 or kde4, they are both in hardy
[16:37] <adz21c> not that i know if it makes a different
[16:37] <adz21c> difference
[16:38] <helpy> and my tabs are stacked over one and another in bottom panel
[16:38] <helpy> how can i spread them horizontally ?
[16:39] <adz21c> helpy: for session issue, go to System settings, then the advanced tab, select session manager, and start with an empty session, then apply
[16:39] <Vermux> genii: Im getting the same message again with a process number
[16:40] <helpy> you've reached the limit of maximum number of sessions possible ???
[16:40] <helpy> whats that ?
[16:40] <genii> Vermux: Please say exact error
[16:40] <genii> helpy: That means you need to close a bunch of those windows you have open of Konsole or such
[16:40] <Vermux> genii: I afraid that the laptop didnt shut down properly
[16:41] <helpy> i have no windows open
[16:41] <helpy> just konversation and firefox
[16:41] <helpy> i do have google, msn and skype running
[16:41] <helpy> but why should that matter ? in kubuntu you can't multitask ?
[16:41] <genii> helpy: Do alt-tab to open each window you may have opened. See how many there may be. Close the ones which are not important
[16:42] <helpy> i told you. there are just two windows
[16:42] <helpy> Konversation and firefox
[16:42] <Vermux> genii: http://pastebin.com/mc3f1017
[16:42] <genii> helpy: Especially in kde4 there may not be a system tray associated with your open applications. eg: they do not show on your bar
[16:42] <helpy> i dont have system tray
[16:43] <helpy> do have
[16:43] <helpy> but why is there a limit on processes?
[16:44] <helpy> this sux :s
[16:44] <genii> Vermux: Are you using SWAT ?
[16:44] <Vermux> genii: I think that the laptop was out of batteries so it didnt shut down properly while smb.conf was opened with Vim
[16:44] <Vermux> genii: no
[16:44] <genii> helpy: ..
[16:44] <genii> bah impatience
[16:45] <minhaaj> i couldnt do anything genii
[16:45] <minhaaj> i had no option
[16:45] <genii> Vermux: Well, you could rm it. Perhaps copy it out someplace for examination later.
[16:46] <dru> nosrednaekim: how would i go about installing for a dual core
[16:46] <dru> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[16:46] <nosrednaekim> dru: the installation is exactly the same
[16:47] <Vermux> genii: whatis rm it?
[16:47] <genii> helpy: What application is saying "session limit" ?   You may have too many concurrent logins someplace online for instance, not to the local box
[16:47] <genii> Vermux: rm=remove
[16:48] <helpy> huhh ?
[16:48] <genii> Vermux: I would suggest also if there was a hard shutdown... to boot to Recovery Mode kernel and to run the fsck on your drive.
[16:48] <helpy> i couldnt launch any applicaton
[16:49] <helpy> konsole, system settings, process manager
[16:49] <helpy> nothing
[16:49] <nosrednaekim> helpy: woah... what have oyu been doing?
[16:49] <genii> helpy: Some IRC places for instance will tell you "session limit" also some cookie-based email places if you have too many logins happenng there. Etc
[16:50] <helpy> dunno
[16:50] <nosrednaekim> helpy: what do you have open?
[16:50] <helpy> i dont know but my kubuntu hangs if i do robust work
[16:50] <helpy> like playing music, surfing, IMs, torrents
[16:50] <helpy> its strange
[16:50] <Vermux> genii: delete the file? I tried to kill the process ID but it didnt kill anything
[16:50] <helpy> other than that, i love kubuntu
[16:51] <Vermux> genii: oo, so u suggest to remove the swap file
[16:51] <genii> nosrednaekim: My first thought is he's on kde4 and removed one of the systray widgets or something, causing every time konsole opens to make a new instance resulting in overflow since to tray shows any app running. But I could be way off.
[16:51] <genii> Vermux: Yes.
[16:51] <Richard> is www.debian-administration.org down?
[16:52] <helpy> how do i check which kde i am using ?
[16:52] <montel_> u loook
[16:52] <montel_> in
[16:52] <montel_> ur as
[16:52] <montel_> ass*
[16:52]  * helpy is stunned
[16:52] <helpy> i am sorry ?
[16:52] <nosrednaekim> helpy: ignore him
[16:53] <pim> I think you're using 3.5.9
[16:53]  * helpy blinks
[16:53] <pim> If you've got the latest version
[16:53] <helpy> is there a command line to update it ?
[16:53] <Vermux> genii: but where do I find this swp file?
[16:53] <nosrednaekim> helpy: try dragging your panel to the top of the screen
[16:53] <helpy> like sudo apt-get install something ?
[16:53] <redd0t> helpy: it should be in the help program under about KDE
[16:53] <nosrednaekim> helpy: nope... just a sec, we'll firgure this out.
[16:53] <helpy> yep it works nosrednaekim
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> helpy: ok, you an move it back if you want... you are running 3.5.9
[16:54] <julian> hello
[16:54] <helpy> its good ?
[16:54] <julian> i haqve a problem.
[16:54] <nosrednaekim> helpy: kinda :P
[16:55] <nosrednaekim> helpy: ok, can you start system settings->advanced->sessions and select start new session on login?
[16:55] <helpy> i have :)
[16:55] <theFATMAN> i am trying to run an ip trace, but i'm getting nowhere, any suggestions?
[16:55] <julian> i want to join german irc servers from a german browser game , but i can not join them because of the network?can somebody help me pls :)
[16:56] <genii> Vermux: eg:        sudo rm /etc/samba/.smb.conf.swp
[16:57] <theFATMAN> when running an ip trace, it keeps telling me i need the inet prefix
[16:57] <julian> can someone help me pls?
[16:57] <Steve_Wilkos> shes good
[16:57] <Richard> is www.debian-administration.org down?
[16:57] <helpy> how do i upgrade to kde 4 ?
[16:57] <Steve_Wilkos> charbucks: graphics cards fan dying?
[16:57] <nosrednaekim> helpy: log out and log back in then... (or did you do that too?)
[16:58] <helpy> do i have to ?
[16:58] <nosrednaekim> helpy: yes :)
[16:58] <helpy> ok
[16:58] <Noni|da> hello?can someone help me, i want to join on german servers , but i am a linux nooby :(
[16:59] <nosrednaekim> !de
[16:59] <Noni|da> thx ^^
[16:59] <Vermux> genii: this is wiered, is it a hidden file?
[16:59] <genii> helpy: If you're having problems with kde3 I doubt you'll experience less aggravation with kde4
[16:59] <minhaaj> ok great.
[16:59] <genii> Vermux: Yes anything beginning with a . is hidden
[16:59] <Vermux> genii: and waht is the dot
[16:59] <minhaaj> clean session this time
[17:00] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: working?
[17:00] <Treefire> So uh, I'm running kubuntu on a macbook pro. I don't understand why people are having trouble with it, I love it, it works perfectly with almost no tech skill necessary, just have to partition your disk correctly and omg it just works
[17:00] <Treefire> However
[17:00] <Steve_Wilkos> monkeybox: xdpyinfo
[17:00] <minhaaj> yep
[17:00] <Treefire> I can't figure out how to disable trackpad tapping as a clikc
[17:00] <Treefire> click
[17:00] <minhaaj> but still tabs are stacking each other
[17:00] <Steve_Wilkos> does any one have problems using cedega with 8.04?
[17:00] <minhaaj> i want them horizontally aligned like in windows
[17:00] <Treefire> is there a program I can install to give me more control over mouse configuration?
[17:00] <Treefire> Or a config file I can edit myself?
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj:  in what application?
[17:01] <Vermux> genii: why the os created that file? because of hard shutdown? or because I was in a middle of editing the file?
[17:01] <minhaaj> no no you dont get it
[17:01] <minhaaj> in my kubuntu when i open up windows, it stacks over each other
[17:01] <Steve_Wilkos> adamt: don't insult users of this channel
[17:01] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: oh... in the taskbar?
[17:01] <minhaaj> yep
[17:01] <Treefire> Anyone?
[17:02] <nosrednaekim> helpy: you can resize your panel, make it just a bit thinner and they CAN"T stack :P
[17:02] <genii> Vermux: Both. The editor made the hidden file when it opened the one you were editing. Then it stayed when the power went off
[17:02] <Steve_Wilkos> nope.
[17:02] <helpy> yea but my icons are big
[17:03] <helpy> big enough for two vertical tabs
[17:03] <helpy> and i can't even get the themes for kubuntu ?
[17:03] <helpy> dont know how to install :(
[17:03] <Vermux> genii: and what was the purpose of that swp file? backup?
[17:03] <nosrednaekim> helpy: if you shrink the panel... the icons will shrink :)
[17:04] <genii> helpy: Rightclick on bar. Choose "Configure Panel" Reduce "Size" from 48 pixels to 32 or so. This will force them across
[17:04] <genii> Vermux: Yes, in case a revert was needed.
[17:04] <helpy> ok hangon
[17:05] <helpy> great
[17:05] <Vermux> genii: so if I opened that file it would have the same content as the edited file+ new stuff that havane been saved yet?
[17:05] <helpy> worked :)
[17:05] <helpy> and my facebook shows up without graphics in ff
[17:05] <helpy> firefox
[17:05] <helpy> any ideas ?
[17:05] <nosrednaekim> graphics?
[17:05] <helpy> no images
[17:05] <emilsedgh> Firefox == Fx, not FF
[17:06] <helpy> shall i upload a screen shot ?
[17:06] <nosrednaekim> did you adblock them?
[17:06] <helpy> nope
[17:06] <helpy> it won't just load
[17:06] <nosrednaekim> please do
[17:06] <helpy> ok hang on
[17:06] <Daisuke_Laptop> emilsedgh: is it that important a distinction?  i've never heard firefox abbreviated Fx, only FF
[17:07] <genii> Vermux: If you opened that file it would contain whatever was in the file at the time you originally opened it
[17:07] <Steve_Wilkos> when you right-click it should say something like
[17:07] <emilsedgh> Daisuke_Ido: according to wikipedia, devs prefer Fx, and i think its really important to respect what they want
[17:07] <Vermux> genii: so what's the purpose of it?
[17:07] <Steve_Wilkos> im going through a playlist
[17:07] <helpy> http://www.dumparump.com/view.php?id=ptCqUve
[17:07] <helpy> see no buttons and graphics
[17:08] <nosrednaekim> uhh please.... not a porn site
[17:08] <nosrednaekim> thanks
[17:08] <helpy> thats not
[17:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> emilsedgh: you make a good point then :)
[17:08] <sakura> lol
[17:08] <helpy> its just where i have uploaded image
[17:08] <nosrednaekim> helpy: use imagebin.ca
[17:08] <maltedik> PAIN. sdb is the new sda, BUT NOT IN GRUB. consistency ftw :/
[17:08] <helpy> ok
[17:08] <helpy> :s
[17:08] <maltedik> thx f lisnin
[17:08] <maltedik> ;)
[17:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> !coc | helpy
[17:09] <genii> Vermux: <sigh> eg: you open a.txt  .a.txt.swp is made.  You change and save. The changed file is a.txt    then a file called something like a.txt~ is made by copying .a.txt.swp to that. So a backup is there.
[17:09] <helpy> http://imagebin.ca/view/FneikUW.html
[17:09] <Daisuke_Laptop> imagebin, imageshack, imagevenue, but not a porn host.  a lot of people here are at work when they help, and you could potentially have cost them their job :)
[17:09] <Steve_Wilkos> yatas: because you need a credit... oh, are you asking if other kinds of credit cards work?
[17:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> by the by, that's CSS not being used
[17:10] <Daisuke_Laptop> weird thing to see
[17:11] <jonaskoelker> hi all.  Could someone help me get scim/skim/anthy working, so I can type japanese in my xterm?
[17:11] <genii> AFK, getting lunch
[17:11] <jonaskoelker> (and, preferably, kiten)
[17:13] <julian> !de
[17:13] <minhaaj> computer crash
[17:13] <minhaaj> my kubuntu is so unstable
[17:13] <Vermux> genii: so if the backup file is mad only after I save the file, it is not backing up unsaved changes
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: <_<
[17:13] <minhaaj> or is it firefox3b5 ?
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> It could be firefox...
[17:13] <nosrednaekim> try using firefox 2
[17:13] <jonaskoelker> ... those lunatic backup files ;)
[17:14] <nosrednaekim> you can get it with "sudo apt-get install firefox-2"
[17:14] <minhaaj> i think i have it hangon
[17:15] <minhaaj> ok good
[17:15] <minhaaj> there are alot of extensions and toolbars that i can't use with ff3b5
[17:16] <minhaaj> wow even facebook is fine in ff2
[17:16] <minhaaj> thanks nosrednaekim
[17:16] <nosrednaekim> hopefully thats stabler as well
[17:17] <minhaaj> why dont i get options under tools in ff ?
[17:17] <Steve_Wilkos> hmm, not many good linux options there really
[17:17] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: I think its edit->preferences
[17:17] <minhaaj> ok hang on
[17:18] <minhaaj> great
[17:19] <minhaaj> i hope kubuntu will be stable now
[17:19] <minhaaj> nosrednaekim:  can you help me set themes ?
[17:19] <minhaaj> i have been trying earlier today
[17:19] <minhaaj> couldnt get it to work
[17:20] <nosrednaekim> in kde?
[17:20] <Steve_Wilkos> so, instead of calling sig_handled, can i just delete the in the sig_child handler?
[17:20] <minhaaj> yep
[17:21] <minhaaj> btw which is the program to crop a picture?
[17:21] <jonaskoelker> minhaaj: I think you can use krita...
[17:21] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: gimp and digikam can both do it
[17:21] <minhaaj> ok
[17:21] <minhaaj> kirta ?
[17:21] <jonaskoelker> krita
[17:22] <minhaaj> whats that ?
[17:22] <Steve_Wilkos> leonnananana
[17:22] <jonaskoelker> an image editing program
[17:22] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: alt+f2->kcontrol->appearance&themes0->theme manger
[17:22] <jonaskoelker> minhaaj: sudo aptitude install krita; krita & # :)
[17:23] <minhaaj> whats that ?
[17:23] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: thats the theme installer :)
[17:23] <minhaaj> ok hang on
[17:24] <jonaskoelker> gaah
[17:24] <jonaskoelker> community support my foot...
[17:25] <Treefire> speaking of themes, is there like, an apt-get install themespackof20000 themes?
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> jonaskoelker: maybe ask in the japanese channel?
[17:25] <Treefire> or do i have to go find a bunch online, individually untar them all etc
[17:25] <OrthodoX> hello to all
[17:25] <minhaaj> omg help
[17:25] <minhaaj> my settins are gone
[17:25] <nosrednaekim> Treefire: there are some in the repositories
[17:25] <minhaaj> i was trying to change themes
[17:25] <jonaskoelker> !jp
[17:25] <minhaaj> and no windows borders and graphics are gone
[17:26] <Treefire> Do I have to name them by name, nosrednaekim?
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> Treefire: ?
[17:26] <Haza1> Hey there folks. What is a good (and not too complex to use) Java IDE?
[17:26] <Treefire> Uh
[17:26] <Treefire> Installing them
[17:26] <Treefire> oh, you mean
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> Haza1: eclipse
[17:26] <Steve_Wilkos> genii: so what's the purpose of it?
[17:26] <Treefire> manually go there
[17:26] <Treefire> lol
[17:26] <minhaaj> what doi do ?
[17:26] <Haza1> nosrednaekim: Okay. I use Eclipse as it is for other things already :)
[17:26] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: that would be a compiz crash
[17:27] <minhaaj> kwin --replace ?
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: do "alt+f2" kwin --replace
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> yep :)
[17:27] <minhaaj> ok
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: don't change themes while running compiz...it can crasht eh window decorator
[17:27] <minhaaj> oh ok
[17:27] <Vermux> what is a printcap file and where is it located?
[17:27] <minhaaj> but still i dont get my old them
[17:27] <nosrednaekim> sorry, forgot to tell you that
[17:27] <Steve_Wilkos> fahadsadah: echo
[17:27] <minhaaj> and hey its back to that
[17:31] <minhaaj> i still cant get to my old settings
[17:31] <minhaaj> :s
[17:31] <Steve_Wilkos> at least slart recognises that someone made a bummer with the kernels :p
[17:31] <minhaaj> how do i get my default kubuntu theme back ?
[17:31] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: thats what happens when you mess around with themes  :|
[17:32] <minhaaj> themes dont work with compiz ?
[17:32] <minhaaj> how do get to default ?
[17:32] <Steve_Wilkos> i think that was 8
[17:32] <justin_> i'm running compizfusion with emerald and around all of my windows It is adding these grey lines.  I assume it is supposed to be artistic, but it sucks.  What do I do?
[17:32] <Steve_Wilkos> central exams
[17:32] <nosrednaekim> justin_: turn off shadows
[17:33] <minhaaj> what do i do ?
[17:33] <Steve_Wilkos> 13 att is not a lot for naughty nature
[17:33] <justin_> turn off shadows in emerald?
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: themes do work with compiz... and once you change theme, you can't change back unless you had saved it
[17:33] <nosrednaekim> justin_: yes, I think you can do that
[17:33] <minhaaj> what is that supposed to mean ?
[17:33] <frojnd> Would anyone know how can I make a name for a new media label ? with growisofs: growisofs -dvd-compat -speed=2 -Z /dev/dvd -R -J -pad /muska/   where in this command could I use a flag for naming dvd ? Now its just DVD
[17:33] <minhaaj> kubuntu came with that theme
[17:34] <Steve_Wilkos> i needed a random screename
[17:34] <minhaaj> did i have to save default theme too ?
[17:34] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: yeah... since its not an offical theme of KDE
[17:35] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: oh well, go download a theme you like and use that instead :)
[17:35] <minhaaj> yea but i have to have xfce to use themes ?
[17:35] <minhaaj> or this one would work fine ?
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> not if its an xfce theme
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> !theme
[17:36] <nosrednaekim> go to kde-look.org
[17:36] <minhaaj> yea there are xfce themes out there
[17:36] <minhaaj> !changethemes
[17:37] <minhaaj> would that work with kde theme manager ?
[17:37] <minhaaj> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Azenis?content=77150
[17:38] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: it should, yes :)
[17:38] <minhaaj> ok hang on
[17:39] <minhaaj> its in .tar.gz
[17:39] <minhaaj> its ok ?
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> yep, thats fine
[17:39] <minhaaj> i simply go to kde install new theme and navigate to tar.gz ?
[17:39] <Steve_Wilkos> how do i change konqueror back to its default settings?
[17:39] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: yep
[17:40] <minhaaj> get rid of it Steve_Wilkos use firefox
[17:44] <snoris> hi ..
[17:44] <snoris> got a question
[17:45] <snoris> amarok /kubuntu
[17:45] <minhaaj> its not detecting the tar.gz file nosrednaekim
[17:45] <Tesla|Home> snoris: proceed :-)
[17:45] <minhaaj> snoris:  please ask
[17:46] <snoris> Its hard to explain.. but i'll try :)  ..   The track information text at the bottom of the window isn't displaying properly
[17:46] <snoris> its showing <B> song title by <b> artists
[17:46] <Tesla|Home> i have this problem all the time :-)
[17:46] <Tesla|Home> not the same tho
[17:46] <snoris> See it used to happen.. but then it cleared itself up
[17:47] <snoris> and now its back
[17:47] <minhaaj> what player do you use?
[17:47] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: ok, untar the tar.gz with ark
[17:47] <snoris> amarok 1.4.7  kde 3.5.8
[17:47] <minhaaj> ok then ?
[17:47] <Treefire> So i'm trying to install flashplayer to firefox, but when terminal asks for the install location of firefox... well, i'm not very adept with CLI. Anyone give me a hand?
[17:48] <Treefire> Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape,
[17:48] <Treefire> or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): opt/firefox3.0
[17:48] <Treefire> WARNING: /home/gofg/Desktop/install_flash_player_9_linux/opt/firefox3.0 is not a directory.
[17:48] <minhaaj> dpme
[17:48] <snoris>  i set mine to /usr/bin   -- not sure if that was the right thing to do but it worked
[17:48] <minhaaj> done
[17:48] <Treefire> what do I have to do to get out of install_flash_player_9_linux?
[17:48] <snoris> control-c
[17:48] <Treefire> really?
[17:49] <Treefire> starting up the install told me that would simply abort the install
[17:50] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: now try going into that folder and see if there is a .kth file
[17:50] <minhaaj> ok
[17:50] <minhaaj> navigate to that ?
[17:51] <minhaaj> it has alot of things splash, karamba
[17:51] <minhaaj> can you plz download it ?
[17:52] <nosrednaekim> mmhm, sure
[17:54] <minhaaj> thanks
[17:54] <minhaaj> it has a how to file
[17:54] <minhaaj> but its in swedish
[17:54] <minhaaj> atleast the important things
[17:54] <minhaaj> i can't figure out
[17:54] <nosrednaekim> lol
[17:55] <minhaaj> have you downloaded it nosrednaekim ?
[17:55] <nosrednaekim> yeah... but lol, can't find the actualy color scheme, etc
[17:56] <minhaaj> :s
[17:56] <minhaaj> are you using firefox 2 ?
[17:56] <minhaaj> i am getting an error when i install an addonor theme
[17:56] <minhaaj> it won't work
[17:57] <nosrednaekim> no... I use konqueror
[17:57] <chef_> Hi, Im trying out KDE4 from the kubuntu repository. and Konqueror highlights some text in red I write in textboxes ... and I cant see any pattern in it, and dont know why it does this. Could anyone please enlighten me on this one ?
[17:57] <minhaaj> oh my god, it doesnt have back and forward arrows too
[17:58] <nosrednaekim> chef_: its spelled wrong :)
[17:58] <minhaaj> can you get me some theme nosrednaekim ?
[17:58] <minhaaj> i want to get rid of this :s
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: why don't you make one yourself? there are some nice color schemes, widget styles etc
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> tweak to your hearts content :)
[17:59] <minhaaj> oh too fast for me
[17:59] <minhaaj> :)
[17:59] <minhaaj> plus i am not a designer
[17:59] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: ah... this way you can make it look exactly the way you want it...
[17:59] <chef_> so how can I actually use the corretion ? It doestn give me any alternatives to my typos
[17:59] <minhaaj> ok :)
[18:00] <minhaaj> how do i do that ?
[18:00] <minhaaj> do i have to shut down compiz first ?
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> chef_: right click doesn't work?
[18:00] <chef_> no
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: yeah.. that might be a good idea
[18:00] <chef_> i tried testt
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> chef_: then I don't know
[18:00] <chef_> kk thx anyway
[18:01] <minhaaj> how do i do that nosrednaekim ?
[18:01] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: alt+f2, kwin --replace
[18:02] <minhaaj> no i mean design my own theme
[18:03] <nosrednaekim> oh, right, go into systemsettings->appearance and start changing stuff
[18:04] <minhaaj> oh ok. hope i dont screw up again
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> you can't screw this up :P
[18:05] <KomiaPoika> hi
[18:05] <KomiaPoika> i have installed flashplugin-nonfree but firefox 3 beta 5 can't play flash videos, why?
[18:05] <KomiaPoika> huh nvm
[18:05] <nosrednaekim> blech... firefox 3... I don't use that...
[18:06] <minhaaj> whoa got back my settings :)
[18:06] <minhaaj> use ff2
[18:06] <minhaaj> i was using ff3b5 about 10 mins ago :)
[18:06] <elkin> i have the same problem
[18:06] <chrismir> What is wrong with ff3?
[18:06] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: heh :)
[18:06] <nosrednaekim> chrismir: not enough plugin support
[18:06] <RurouniJones> Speaking of FF3, can anyone view this page without it crashing? http://github.com/madrobby/scriptaculous/wikis/draggable
[18:06] <chrismir> ah, problem of every new major release :)
[18:07] <marcus_> Yup.
[18:07] <josef> hi guys. where can i find a list of dcop commands? i need the one to unlock the screen after locking it with blueproximity
[18:07] <marcus_> I think a lot of people disliked that about KDE 4 as well.
[18:07] <minhaaj> now thats cool. got all my settings back nosrednaekim
[18:07] <minhaaj> where are you from nosrednaekim ?
[18:07] <marcus_> Have you tried the man-pages? I can't think of anywhere else.
[18:07] <elkin> in google are these commands
[18:08] <chrismir> marcus_: That is why I installed 3.x on my new computer. I've tried 4, but I can't use it for my daily work
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: NJ, USA
[18:08] <elkin> $xman+dcop
[18:08] <josef> hmm.. ok. ty
[18:08] <minhaaj> oh ok
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> josef: try running "kdcop"
[18:08] <chrismir> RurouniJones: I've loaded that page in konq and ff3. No crash here
[18:09] <josef> nosrednaekim: awesome. thats the one i was looking for :D
[18:11] <alexey> how to restart x server
[18:11] <chrismir> crtrl - alt - backspace
[18:11] <nosrednaekim> alexey: ctrl+alt + bckspace, but make sure you closed any important docs... etc
[18:12] <RurouniJones> thanks chrismir
[18:16] <minhaaj> howcome firefox doesnt have a back button ?
[18:16] <minhaaj> or its just ff 2 ?
[18:16] <marcus_> Erm...
[18:16] <marcus_> It does?
[18:16] <minhaaj> its not even letting me use addons
[18:17] <marcus_> Oh.
[18:17] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: you may have to add the button bcak
[18:17] <marcus_> If you had Firefox 3, you may have to delete the configuration folder...
[18:17] <minhaaj> about:config ?
[18:18] <minhaaj> and now its stuck ?
[18:18] <marcus_> I'm not sure which file does it, but deleting ~/.mozilla/firefox works.
[18:18] <minhaaj> :s
[18:18] <minhaaj> what is that ?
[18:18] <marcus_> It's a folder...
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: nah.... right click on the toolbar and select customize
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> marcus_: thats erases bookmarks too
[18:19] <chrismir> can't you just use 'View - toolbar - customize" to add the back button?
[18:19] <marcus_> I know, but I can't remember exactly which file stops you using plugins...
[18:19] <minhaaj> wth, i am sick of these you have reached the limit of process
[18:19] <minhaaj> what the hell is that ?
[18:23] <chrismir> hmm, at first I was pleasantly purprised that konqueror automatically loaded flash, but already had several crashes with it :/
[18:23] <chrismir> surprised*
[18:26] <JackWinter> i just set up a virtual desktop with webcams of places around the world which i love.  at the moment i have them in several konqueror windows, but was wondering if there was a better application for the purpose, especially one where i could set the update frequence, since many cams stop streaming the jpeg after a while
[18:27] <JackWinter> maybe some kind of viewer where is could place the different jpg side by side ?
[18:29] <alexey> Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'(( when try separate x screen mode
[18:42] <JackWinter> ah, to answer my own question, it might be smart to write a webpage and place the different streams on it ;)
[18:42] <andyho623> hello y'all who may be in the room
[18:43] <nosrednaekim> hey
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> !dolphin | minhaaj
[19:06] <muskogeerabbit> How do I get Kmail to envoke Forefox, instead of Konqueror, for URLs in emails?
[19:09] <KRF> muskogeerabbit, run kcontrol -> errmm.. i dont know
[19:09] <KRF> standard programs or something
[19:09] <emilsedgh> muskogeerabbit: System Settings->Default Applications
[19:10] <muskogeerabbit> Thanks.
[19:11] <KRF> um, sounds more reasonable, yes
[19:14] <pim> Anyone knows why Amarok could read data from a NTFS partition and now can't anymore?
[19:15] <Sammy_Food_Run> minhaaj: that would be a compiz crash
[19:15] <deyknow> what is the best way to install firefox on kubuntu
[19:15] <deyknow> ?
[19:15] <Sammy_Food_Run> free yet everyone i met has jacked up grills
[19:15] <PolitikerNEU> sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:15] <deyknow> right, on the command line
[19:16] <PolitikerNEU> sure
[19:16] <duane> hi I got the update icon today and then when i did restart says new restricted drivers in use ??
[19:17] <Sammy_Food_Run> we have a 4vs1 map which gives like 5k per battle!!
[19:20] <mauro> alain: LOST?
[19:22] <andyho623> uuuggh!!! why won't rescue work?!?!
[19:22] <Sammy_Food_Run> chocolol
[19:26] <andyho623> damn it's time for a smoke before I kick this machine
[19:26] <pim> Smoking is bad for your health.
[19:28] <matias> hi
[19:28] <engineer> smoking kills you
[19:28] <pim> How do I manually mount a harddrive?
[19:28] <engineer> hi finish
[19:28] <engineer> sudo mount /dev/sda1 partition/
[19:29] <engineer> sda1 should be the partition you want to mount
[19:29] <pim> sda1 = the harddisk you mean?
[19:29] <engineer> sda1 should be the partition you want to mount
[19:29] <engineer> don't rephrase me
[19:29] <pim> how do I find out which partitions I can mount?
[19:30] <engineer> /dev/sd +tab
[19:30] <engineer> or hd if it's ide
[19:30] <engineer> sd for sata
[19:30] <pim> It doesn't give me any results
[19:30] <Sammy_Food_Run> found: quake2-data, quake3-data
[19:31] <Firefishe> Does anyone here use VirtualBox in Kubuntu 7.04 for WinXP virtualization?
[19:31] <engineer> pim put mount before
[19:31] <Sammy_Food_Run> then sub sig_child };
[19:31] <engineer> Firefishe vmware
[19:32] <Firefishe> I'm already in #vbox, so this is an ancillary question...and it's dead there right now ;)
[19:32] <pim> engineer it still doesn't work.
[19:32] <nikke> is there a way so i can burn .iso images in terminal?
[19:32] <Firefishe> engineer: I'm evaluating it.
[19:32] <engineer> nikke yes
[19:33] <nikke> engineer: how?
[19:33] <Sammy_Food_Run> linuxkrn, hmm it seems to be giving it in 129x126... how can i convert that to a single number (ie, 96dpi)
[19:33] <engineer> pim try mount /dev/hd
[19:33] <pim> engineer that also doesn't work
[19:33] <Sammy_Food_Run> i had 3 exams this afternoon
[19:33] <engineer> !mount
[19:34] <pim> engineer hm it should have found sda5
[19:35] <engineer> nikke i don't know which command it is
[19:35] <engineer> but i've done it before
[19:37] <tdn> How do I upgrade to 8.04 when I do not have X? Can I do this entirely from console?
[19:37] <tdn> Is there any way to change from Ubuntu to Ubuntu Server?
[19:37] <Sammy_Food_Run> ﻿basically, my grub file went bad around the same time that i lost my cd rom. so i had to reinstall using a stick drive. now none of my usb drives will automount.
[19:37] <nosrednaekim> !iso
[19:37] <nosrednaekim> tdn: yes, there are CLI instructions
[19:38] <tdn> nosrednaekim, ok.
[19:40] <No0b> hey
[19:40] <Sakui> bai
[19:40] <No0b> i need help with hotmail
[19:40] <No0b> i forgot my password
[19:41] <Sakui> goto #wincrap :P
[19:41]  * Sakui doesn't do hotmail.
[19:42] <dru>  hey guys ...is there a sort of interactive tool to build ... segments of a .theme file....i have a bunch of code ....but the placement is mathematicly "tough"....anyone have an idea?
[19:42] <tdn> nosrednaekim, I cannot seem to find CLI instructions anywhere.
[19:42] <Sammy_Food_Run> it displeases
[19:43] <nosrednaekim> !upgrade
[19:44] <tdn> nosrednaekim, yes. This is where I am looking. There is nothing on CLI instructions.
[19:44] <dru> man man
[19:44] <dru> tdn
[19:44] <dru> terminal man man
[19:44] <Sammy_Food_Run> was
[19:44] <dru> or man help
[19:45] <dru> or man "application"
[19:45] <Sammy_Food_Run> arthurarchnix: he doesnt know, because hes responding to some other channel
[19:45] <tdn> dru, ?
[19:45] <dru> (application refers to the program you would like to know more about from the cli
[19:45] <dru> )
[19:46] <dru> tdn
[19:46] <dru> what are you trying to do
[19:46] <tdn> dru, please read in the buffer above. This is about upgrading from CLI. I know man pages, thank you.
[19:46] <Sammy_Food_Run> you're probably better off timid/modest but as you're sring you may be less picky
[19:47] <dru> apt-get install dist-upgrade ...after you have edited apt/source/list* to contain the hardy repository....if you dox installed then it should go pretty smothlynt have
[19:48] <dru> *dont have x
[19:48] <nosrednaekim> tdn: follow "network upgrade for ubuntuservers"
[19:48] <steve555> to edit the sources file,try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:49] <dru> change all *gutsy to *hardy ....pretty simple actually
[19:49] <dru> :P
[19:50] <tdn> nosrednaekim, ok. I thought of that one, but it would be nice if it said something like "command line only upgrade". There is nothing on the page that indicates that this procedure will be CLI only.
[19:51] <dru> then :apt-get dist-upgrade....do your normal updates after that and cross your fingers so nothing goes wrong
[19:52] <tdn> nosrednaekim, also, this is not a Ubuntu Server. This is regular Ubuntu, installed on a server. I would like to change it to Ubuntu Server. How do I do this. I am aware that the difference might only be some packages that are installed/removed, but I would still like to know how to do it then.
[19:52] <Sammy_Food_Run> mre was i right or not dammit
[19:53] <dru> tdn....dude server is just a live minimal edition without the fancy gui ...its exsactly the same as a full cd
[19:54] <dru> with the alternative cd you can also install a "non X" system .....but certain packages like ssh mysql or other server software are not set up by default
[19:55] <dru> server edition contains server software .... and yes as usual non gui ...:D
[19:55] <nosrednaekim> tdn: the difference is really just the kernel
[19:55] <tdn> nosrednaekim, thank you.
[19:55] <tdn> nosrednaekim, for the info on the kernel.
[19:56] <tdn> nosrednaekim, but I still would like some instructions on how to change to it.
[19:56] <tdn> nosrednaekim, if this is possible.
[19:56] <nosrednaekim> tdn: just install the server kernel
[19:57] <tdn> nosrednaekim, how do I remove everything Ubuntu Desktop related?
[19:57] <dru> rtfm
[19:57] <nosrednaekim> I don't know really....
[19:58] <tdn> dru, please, if you have nothing constructive to contribute, then just stay out of this.
[19:59] <dru> tdn : your asking us to walk you thru in stalling a system ....here ill help you
[20:00] <dru> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition
[20:00] <dru> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/switch-ubuntu-server-to-use-internet-repositories-instead-of-cdrom/
[20:01] <dru> i think that second one is the one your looking for
[20:02] <dru> this may also be of use to you http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/can-one-switch-gui-onoff-in-ubuntu-server-6.06-want-to-learn-server-but...-576783/
[20:03] <tdn> dru, I'll look through it. Thanks.
[20:04] <_Soul> anyone triedthe kde4 version of konqueror?
[20:04] <_Soul> i've noticed the search-field is gone :
[20:04] <_Soul> any way to get it back
[20:05] <nosrednaekim> _Soul: not that I know of
[20:05] <_Soul> hmm, ok :\
[20:05] <nosrednaekim> do you just use it for google?
[20:05] <_Soul> yeah
[20:05] <nosrednaekim> entering "google: search term" in the main bar works :)
[20:06] <_Soul> oh, ok :)
[20:06] <_Soul> thanks
[20:16] <zmj|Blokhmen> ok, so I can't remove kio-umountwrapper and it's messing up my package manager.
[20:17] <giorgio> hi
[20:17] <engineer> hey
[20:18] <_Soul> hi
[20:19] <zmj|Blokhmen> I can't remove the kio-umountwrapper, anyone know how to help?
[20:24] <_Soul> how to remove kde3 after installing kde4?:P
[20:27] <minhaaj> kde4 is cool _Soul ?
[20:28] <nosrednaekim> _Soul: I'd keep it around if I were you
[20:28] <_Soul> but now i have double up of every application
[20:29] <_Soul> brb
[20:29] <nosrednaekim> _Soul: edit them out of the menu
[20:29] <minhaaj> can't you upgrade kde3 ?
[20:32] <gottabeandrew> i just installed 8.04 of kubuntu with kde3. on desktop effects, i have it set to custom. i also have "advanced desktop effects settings" installed but when i change the settings on compizconfig (e.g. wobbly windows), the effects don't happen. why not?
[20:33] <engineer> with compiz?
[20:33] <gottabeandrew> what do you mean?
[20:34] <minhaaj> what effect do you want gottabeandrew ?
[20:34] <gottabeandrew> ok, compiz stuff i have installed:
[20:34] <gottabeandrew> advanced desktop effects settings (ccsm)
[20:34] <gottabeandrew> desktop effects
[20:34] <engineer> some effects don't work if wobbly is enabled
[20:35] <gottabeandrew> none of the effects work, i want them all work
[20:35] <engineer> make sure none is blocking that
[20:35] <gottabeandrew> they're not
[20:35] <gottabeandrew> none of the effects work
[20:35] <minhaaj> did you change appearance of your desktop ?
[20:35] <minhaaj> or did you type kwin --replace ?
[20:35] <gottabeandrew> no
[20:35] <Carutsu> if i need a package which is not updated in kubuntu but in debian is, may I just install it?
[20:36] <minhaaj> what is the file ext Carutsu ? .deb ?
[20:36] <minhaaj> !compiz
[20:36] <Carutsu> .deb yes
[20:36] <minhaaj> read this gottabeandrew
[20:36] <steve555> gottabeanview,can I ask which drivers are you using?
[20:36] <minhaaj> Carutsu:  you can install any package with .deb
[20:37] <gottabeandrew> no, i don't have a clue
[20:37] <Carutsu> minhaaj: ok, thanks I was worried I might break something
[20:38] <Carutsu> I'll remove the previous library just in case (it's an update)
[20:38] <steve555> Can I ask which graphics card you've got?
[20:38] <gottabeandrew> nvidia geforce go 7400
[20:38] <engineer> gottabeandrew type compiz --replace
[20:39] <minhaaj> :)
[20:39] <gottabeandrew> ok, i typed it. now what
[20:39] <steve555> hit return
[20:39] <engineer> now compiz should be taking over enabling the effects
[20:39] <gottabeandrew> lol, i know, i did that too
[20:39] <gottabeandrew> ok, i'll give it a go
[20:39] <gottabeandrew> nope, still not working
[20:40] <minhaaj> you sure your drivers are installed ?
[20:40] <minhaaj> you should ask that in #compiz
[20:40] <gottabeandrew> everything is installed
[20:41] <minhaaj> no idea. have you checked the effects that you want in ccsm ?
[20:41] <steve555> I'm assuming you haven't got either the nvidia binary,or the propriety driver from the kubuntu repo's.I would try and install the latter via adept first.
[20:42] <gottabeandrew> i didn't have to do that with ubuntu
[20:42] <Carutsu> i cannot install it, the dependencies are not met... it ask for libc6, which I have installed so I guess the problem is that is outdated, I'm afraid I'll get into a dependency hell, is it safe to just add the debian repostory? (for the record I'm trying to download libclucene0.9.20 which i need to compile KDE4.1)
[20:43] <nosrednaekim> Carutsu: better compile libclucene manually
[20:43] <gottabeandrew> ﻿ok, no offense but i'm just trying kubuntu out, this is the second chance i gave it and it's pretty rubbish at the minute with various things not working properly. i think what i'm gonna do at this point is give up on it and go back to ubuntu. i like the ability to hide the menubar and make it different lengths at each end. does anybody know if i could do that in ubuntu? then it would be fine.
[20:44] <gottabeandrew> oh, and can i install that clipboard program in ubuntu? thats good. and the notes program.
[20:44] <gottabeandrew> knotes and klipper
[20:44] <nosrednaekim> yeah... there is glipper... and tomboy might work
[20:44] <gottabeandrew> ook, thats cool
[20:44] <gottabeandrew> what about changing the taskbar so its not full length?
[20:45] <minhaaj> have you updated kubuntu's packages steve ?
[20:45] <minhaaj> err
[20:45] <minhaaj> gottabeandrew:
[20:45] <minhaaj> maybe he is missing dependencies
[20:45] <nosrednaekim> dunno about that
[20:45] <gottabeandrew> oh, and i like the login screen
[20:45] <gottabeandrew> and the ability to change that
[20:45] <gottabeandrew> if i could have that stuff or similar stuff in ubuntu then i'm set
[20:45] <Carutsu> err, is the update question for me?
[20:48] <gottabeandrew> right, going now
[20:48] <gottabeandrew> bawwwy!!
[20:49] <the-erm> I'm thinking about getting a lap top, I'd like to be able to run kubuntu with it, but I'm not sure if the wireless card in it will work, which is the main reason why I want the laptop.  Is there a site where I can look it up?
[20:49] <the-erm> It's an acer T2370 if that makes any difference.
[20:49] <the-erm> I googled it but ... well I figured I'd check in here.
[20:50] <mneptok> T2370 is an Intel CPU
[20:51] <mneptok> did Acer really choose the same thing for a model name?
[20:51] <mneptok> anyway, just get the Kubuntu Live CD, boot off it, and see what works.
[20:51] <the-erm> oh ok my bad then.
[20:51] <minhaaj> the-erm:  wireless card works smoothly
[20:51] <minhaaj> atleast mine did.
[20:52] <minhaaj> if it can detect your eth0 it can detect wireless too
[20:52] <the-erm> minhaaj: are you sure ... what kind of laptop did you have.
[20:52] <minhaaj> dell inspiron 6400 with ati radeon X1400
[20:52] <the-erm> Every time I've had didn't work quite right.  But that was a usb wireless card.
[20:52] <minhaaj> compiz works with even ati
[20:52] <mneptok> minhaaj: that's not true. the wired and wireless chipsets are usually very different.
[20:52] <minhaaj> you can also make sure it works when you go to buy laptop
[20:52] <mneptok> the-erm: try a live session.
[20:53] <minhaaj> mneptok:  dunno, in my network it shows both are enabled
[20:53] <minhaaj> and i did nothing.
[20:53] <the-erm> I'm not too sure if they'd like me poping in linux and booting from it.
[20:53] <minhaaj> kubuntu is the most smooth installation i've ever had of linux
[20:53] <minhaaj> who ?
[20:53] <mneptok> minhaaj: because both wired and wireless chipsets have drivers
[20:53] <the-erm> circuit city.
[20:53] <minhaaj> dunno mneptok no complaints for me though :)
[20:54] <minhaaj> you dont have to tell them. test it yourself
[20:54] <minhaaj> i am sure they have trial periods after sale
[20:54] <the-erm> Oh you mean after I get home.
[20:54] <minhaaj> :) you can get another one if that didnt work.
[20:54] <minhaaj> yep
[20:54] <minhaaj> most new laptops are compatible with linux
[20:54] <minhaaj> infact if you want, you can buy dell's new series that ships with ubuntu
[20:54] <the-erm> Unfortunately I'm not one of these people that returns things.  If I don't want it I don't buy it.
[20:55] <mneptok> the-erm: you don't have a laptop yet?
[20:55] <the-erm> If I want it I buy it and live with the decision unless the product is so crappy ...
[20:55] <minhaaj> unfortunately there is no other way you can test linux on it before you buy it :)
[20:55] <the-erm> mneptok: I haven't needed one, they are vanity items.
[20:55] <Pennycook> minhaaj: Unfortunately, whilst its true lots of things "work" with Kubuntu, they don't necessarily work as well as you'd like them to.  And in terms of testing before you buy, you can use Google.
[20:55] <minhaaj> you can test live cd at shop, no ?
[20:55] <Ralesk> hi all
[20:55] <minhaaj> i am not buying anything Pennycook. its the-erm
[20:56] <mneptok> the-erm: make Intel CPU, grpahics, and wireless a priority. look for the 3945 and 4965 Intel mobile platforms.
[20:56] <Pennycook> I know, but I was talking to you.
[20:56] <helpy> i know what you told me :)
[20:56] <helpy> i have just switched from windows, and kubuntu is like a dream come true.
[20:56] <Ralesk> using KDE3 at the moment and Hardy -- Kopete kinda refuses to mark my task bar in Kicker (running kwin as window manager)... :/
[20:56] <helpy> Linux is still pretty complex but its certainly worth learning and your time
[20:57] <Ralesk> and the notifications are set to mark the taskbar entry
[20:57] <Ralesk> and other apps don't seem to have this problem.
[20:58] <chef123> hello i am a newbee to linux and ubuntu where can i get help and support from please
[20:59] <Carutsu> nosrednaekim: i cannot compile it manually, libclucene depends on libc6 >=2.5 which I'll have to compile too
[20:59] <Carutsu> @_@
[21:00] <steve555> Ralesk,for a start,there is :http://ubuntuforums.org/ and the #ubuntu channel on freenode.net
[21:00] <Carutsu> I think I'll just try Arch I've heard it's harder to set up but easier to manage this kind of cases, oh well
[21:00] <chef123> i play guitar and have been using the powertab software under a windows os.  is there a linux equivelent i can install
[21:00] <Ralesk> steve555: why #ubuntu if this is a kubuntu/kde/related issue?
[21:01] <matsdb> chef123: you can try to run it under winemaybe
[21:01] <matsdb> wine maybe*
[21:01] <chef123> what is wine
[21:01] <Ralesk> ubuntuforums, okay, that's a valid point, I tried launchpad and bugs.kde.org to see if there's been a report yet
[21:01] <steve555> I thought he was using ubuntu,not kubuntu,so if I had caused offence.
[21:01] <matsdb> implementation of the win32 api on linux
[21:02] <chef123> where can i get it and how do i install it
[21:02] <matsdb> sudo apt-get install wine
[21:04] <nosrednaekim> Carutsu: yeah... or get Intrepid
[21:04] <brs> Hi all. I'm trying to chroot into my system from a hardy boot dvd, but all I get from chroot is "Bus error". Google only turns up unanswered questions AFAICS. Can anyone here help?
[21:05] <Carutsu> nosrednaekim: intrepid? isn't it kind of new?
[21:05] <nosrednaekim> Carutsu: oh yeah :)
[21:06] <chef123> thank you for your help
[21:06] <Carutsu> I'm in Gutsy... I'll have a look if it's in hardy
[21:09] <nosrednaekim> oh yeah... definately go to hardy
[21:10] <podr0znik> 'evening all
[21:11] <Carutsu> weird, packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/allpackages, hangs konqueror and firefox over here! lol
[21:13] <Ralesk> Carutsu: I had a similar issue when I once tried to browse Fedora's similar page!
[21:13] <Ralesk> way too big for these browsers :P
[21:13] <Carutsu> Ralesk: yep, it seems I solved it
[21:13] <Ralesk> did you use elinks of w3m? :P
[21:14] <matsdb> lynx is teh shit
[21:19] <ScorpKing-Laptop> hmm.. how do i use checkinstall again?
[21:19] <ScorpKing-Laptop> matsdb: then it might not smell to well ;)
[21:20] <matsdb> hehe
[21:21]  * ScorpKing-Laptop loves google..
[21:23] <helpy> i wonder where is my superkaramba i have just installed
[21:23] <helpy> strigi desktop search is pathetic
[21:24] <ScorpKing-Laptop> helpy: press alt+f2 nd type in superkaramba
[21:25] <helpy> ok
[21:25] <helpy> nothing
[21:26] <bdog> hello
[21:27] <wolfspfote> hi there...
[21:30] <helpy> i can't find superkaramba, where is it gone :(
[21:31] <nosrednaekim> helpy: there should be a blue icon on your panel
[21:32] <ScorpKing-Laptop> how do i change ./configure path= ???? i get "changing permissions of `/usr/local/lib/libta_lib.a': No such file or directory"
[21:32] <jouellette> Has anyone been able to compile Google Gadgets using QT4?
[21:33] <navetz_> hey can someone help me with dualscreening with xrandr
[21:33] <jouellette> ScorpKing-Laptop: try ./configure --prefix=/usr
[21:33] <ScorpKing-Laptop> thanks jouellette :)
[21:34] <jouellette> ScorpKing-Laptop: did it work?
[21:34] <ScorpKing-Laptop> one sec
[21:34] <navetz_> hey can someone help me with dualscreening with xrandr, I have a 22" widescreen "1680 * 1050" and my laptop which is "1200*800", is there a way to set them up to both work at the same time?
[21:34] <jouellette> navetz_: Patience....
[21:35] <navetz_> jouellette: sorry just adding more details
[21:35] <jouellette> navetz_: Did you try krandrtray ?
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> navetz_: yeah there is a way... but I am by no means an expert at it :P
[21:35] <minhaaj> sorry i got dc nosrednaekim
[21:35] <minhaaj> what did you say i can find super karamba ?
[21:35] <jouellette> navetz_: the Gui might be an easier way to try to get it to work
[21:35] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: is there a blue button in your system tray?
[21:35] <navetz_> jouellette: no, I have never been able to get krandrtray to work.
[21:36] <ScorpKing-Laptop> jouellette: configure didn't spit out any errors. i'll see what happens when i run make install. it will take a while for make to finish running though
[21:36] <jouellette> navetz_: you might need to setup your display drivers correctly, what video card are you using?
[21:36] <minhaaj> nope
[21:36] <minhaaj> only konversation
[21:38] <navetz_> jouellette: intel i810
[21:39] <jouellette> navetz_: if you go to your Monitor & Display settings, what's the driver used?
[21:39] <jouellette> navetz_: actually, are you using kde3 or kde4?
[21:40] <navetz_> jouellette: kde3 and it says driver: intel
[21:40] <jouellette> uhmm
[21:40] <jouellette> navetz_: on a laptop?
[21:40] <jouellette> of course, and you've played with the CRT/LCD button?
[21:40] <alexander> hello
[21:41] <jouellette> did you boot with the monitor pluged in?
[21:41] <jouellette> alexander: oi!
[21:41] <navetz_> jouellette: yes laptop, and yes I boot with the monitor plugged in
[21:41] <alexander> can someone help me fix my video card to work again?
[21:41] <ScorpKing-Laptop> alexander: only if you explain the problem ;)
[21:42] <alexander> Hm... thats probably too much work for me. need you to just fix it.
[21:42] <minhaaj> ScorpKing-Laptop:  how can i find my installed superkaramba on my computer
[21:42] <minhaaj> i can't find it
[21:42] <alexander> Just kidding :)
[21:42] <navetz_> jouellette: thanks for the help, I am gonna give something a try then come back alter
[21:42] <jouellette> alexander: if it worked before, you can look in /etc/X11/ there should be backups of your older xorg.conf
[21:42] <ScorpKing-Laptop> minhaaj: run it from konsole and see if it's installed
[21:43] <minhaaj> how to run it from console ?
[21:43] <nosrednaekim> just run "superkaramba"
[21:43] <ScorpKing-Laptop> open konsole and type in superkaramba and press enter
[21:44] <jouellette> minhaaj: alt-F2 then type supekaramba
[21:44] <jouellette> * superkaramba
[21:45] <minhaaj> it doesnt work
[21:45] <ScorpKing-Laptop> jouellette: i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/16969/ when i run sudo checkinstall
[21:46] <ScorpKing-Laptop> minhaaj: sudo aptitude install superkaramba
[21:46] <alexander> Ok. Here is the descriptions: Its a intel card. At first it didnt work when i installed ubuntu (no signal on screen) had to use VESA. Then, i down-clocked my motherboard (its integrated gfx) to original values, and suddenly it worked. I got it working with the intel driver, everything was fine. But then suddenly it didnt work anymore. i dont know if i did anything, i think not, but maybe a system update or something like that. This
[21:46] <alexander> time the computer wasnt dead with no signal to screen. but the screen now flashes repeatably and says "out of range". when i CTRL ALT F2 it goes into console though. everything works nice in Vista. So my guess is that a system update of the driver fucked up or something, but i dont really know. so now im using ubuntu with VESA driver... boring! help?
[21:46] <minhaaj> ok
[21:46] <ScorpKing-Laptop> minhaaj: run that in konsole
[21:46] <minhaaj> btw i dont get the syntax of linux commands
[21:46] <minhaaj> i can use sudo apt-get install superkaramba too ?
[21:46] <Ralesk> yup
[21:46] <minhaaj> :)
[21:46] <minhaaj> is there a good book on ubuntu ?
[21:47] <ScorpKing-Laptop> wtf! alexander
[21:47] <prodigy> minhaaj: try ubuntu documentation.
[21:47] <ScorpKing-Laptop> wtf!
[21:47] <alexander> ScorpKing-Laptop ???
[21:47] <ScorpKing-Laptop> alexander: do you see the splash screen?
[21:47] <minhaaj> it isn't very coherent prodigy
[21:47] <ScorpKing-Laptop> alexander: please watch your language
[21:47] <minhaaj> its good for specific problems, but it doesnt give starter-to-pro tour of linux
[21:47] <alexander> ScorpKing-Laptop:  i see the loading bar... until the login should have come. then it starts flashing !
[21:48] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing-Laptop: your's ain't all that much better :P
[21:48] <prodigy> minhaaj: oh. i thing there are some real books, try the amazon.com
[21:48]  * ScorpKing-Laptop puts nosrednaekim in a box..
 wtf! <[21:48] <nosrednaekim> XD
[21:48] <Ralesk> :D
[21:48] <minhaaj> i'd go with torrents prodigy.
[21:48] <minhaaj> :)
[21:48] <ScorpKing-Laptop> alexander: the resolution settings seems to be out
[21:48] <alexander> my language?? :P
[21:49] <Ralesk> so... I guess no one is having any problems with kopete?
[21:49] <alexander> ScorpKing-Laptop:  yeah... how do i fix fix that? it should be 1920X1600
[21:49] <minhaaj> nope
[21:49] <minhaaj> there are alot of messengers if you want to switch Ralesk
[21:49] <prodigy> minhaaj: i think that is illegal. those books cost, if you download them over torrents, it is illegal
[21:49] <Ralesk> I don't
[21:49] <minhaaj> try apt get manager
[21:49] <Ralesk> pidgin sucks, all the alternatives suck too :/
[21:49] <ScorpKing-Laptop> alexander: open konsole and run sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.broken then reboot and the file should be created again
[21:50] <minhaaj> i dont believe in piracy and copyright bs
[21:50] <minhaaj> :)
[21:50] <Ralesk> my humble apologies to all the developers, but eh.
[21:50] <ScorpKing-Laptop> where's the bot today?
[21:50] <genii> alexander: PErhaps back up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf then run the reconfigure -phigh    choosing some lower resolution for the top setting.
[21:50] <minhaaj> an average book is say about $50 on amazon
[21:50] <Ralesk> anyway, kopete refuses to flash my taskbar for new entries today
[21:50] <prodigy> minhaaj: me neither, but this is not the place of discusing that ;)
[21:50] <genii> ScorpKing-Laptop: You need the ! before the factoid name :)
[21:50] <prodigy> only legal things in official support irc
[21:50] <minhaaj> for some people its half month's expense
[21:50] <ScorpKing-Laptop> !wtf
[21:50] <minhaaj> for example me :)
[21:50] <ScorpKing-Laptop> haha
[21:50]  * ScorpKing-Laptop is blond
[21:50] <genii> hehe
[21:51] <minhaaj> :)
[21:51] <prodigy> minhaaj: i live on 150-200$ a month:)
[21:51] <genii> alexander: The driver name should likely be either: intel            or: i810
[21:51] <minhaaj> heh slightly richer than me :)
[21:51] <alexander> genii:  it used to work with intel
[21:51] <minhaaj> where you from ?
[21:51] <alexander> so i guess the resolution is the problem
[21:51] <prodigy> serbia
[21:51] <minhaaj> great.
[21:51] <prodigy> yoU?
[21:52] <minhaaj> Pakistan
[21:52] <ScorpKing-Laptop> !ot
[21:52] <minhaaj> do you see questions around ScorpKing-Laptop ?
[21:52] <genii> alexander: "out of range" normally can also mean video card is putting out some setting the monitor just physically can't do
[21:52] <prodigy> i would spend less, but i live in belgrade now, renting a place untill i finnish studies.
[21:52] <ScorpKing-Laptop> minhaaj: i'm trying to get there ;)
[21:52] <minhaaj> heh atleast dont stop introductions then
[21:53] <ScorpKing-Laptop> i'm trying to compile soething but get http://paste.ubuntu.com/16969/ when i run sudo checkinstall
[21:53] <alexander> yes
[21:53] <alexander> im using DVI
[21:53] <minhaaj> nothing wrong with that. ubuntu is humanity, so let humans interact :)
[21:53] <minhaaj> oh ok prodigy
[21:53] <minhaaj> i am almost done with my MBA here too.
[21:53] <ScorpKing-Laptop> something*
[21:53] <alexander> how can i make the intel graphics driver to output a safe resolution for me? (not using vesa)
[21:53] <minhaaj> btw i am getting kde4 .. would that effect my kde3 ?
[21:53] <minhaaj> any problems ?
[21:53] <prodigy> great, minhaaj ... i am finishing a bachelor degree IT management...
[21:54] <minhaaj> cool.
[21:54] <alexander> oh
[21:54] <minhaaj> I teach and collaborate online too :)
[21:54] <prodigy> minhaaj: i do not think so, they suppose to be separate.
[21:54] <alexander> and by the way
[21:54] <alexander> my graphics does work with VGA
[21:54] <Carutsu> how can I watch an encrypted DVD with Kaffeine?
[21:54] <minhaaj> oh ok, how do i uninstall kde3 ?
[21:54] <prodigy> i think i do to.
[21:54] <alexander> just not DVI... (but it used to)
[21:54] <prodigy> Carutsu: use vlc
[21:54] <Freddy2> hi
[21:54] <Carutsu> i tried it crashed...
[21:54] <minhaaj> vlc is awesome
[21:54] <prodigy> minhaaj: from adept.
[21:55] <minhaaj> ok
[21:55] <genii> alexander: I just told you. Back up the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf   first.    Then to run:      sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg   and choose some saner resolution. If you want to change also the driver and other stuf omit the -phigh part
[21:55] <prodigy> Carutsu: if it does not play, install kubuntu restricted extras...
[21:55] <Freddy2> is there any way to add 32-bit dev packages in a 64 bit system?
[21:55] <Carutsu> i think it's unrelated
[21:55] <navetz> hey, where can I go in kde to find the amount of ram my computer is using?
[21:55] <Carutsu> i stand by this laptop and now it's acting weird...
[21:56] <nosrednaekim> genii: that doesn't work on hardy
[21:56] <alexander> genii: it doesnt work for me. i only get keyboard settings etc.. but no graphics...
[21:57] <alexander> i have the newest ubuntu
[21:57] <genii> nosrednaekim: No? PErhaps kxgenerator still works then?
[21:57]  * genii wonders when this change happened
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> never heard of that...
[21:57] <nosrednaekim> genii: with hardy and xorg7.3
[21:57] <alfredo> ciao
[21:58] <genii> alexander: You could try the gui way, by installing kxgenerator. You can modify xorg settings from it.
[21:58] <alexander> ok
[21:59] <alexander> applications --> add/remove ?
[21:59] <genii> alexander: Yes. Or otherwise by apt-get like:   sudo apt-get install kxgenerator
[22:00] <alexander> oh sorry
[22:00] <alexander> im in a wrong channel
[22:00] <alexander> i have ubuntu, not kubuntu
[22:00] <genii> I need to leave in order to depart this workplace and arrive at my other workplace on time. I'll be back online in about 40 minutes
[22:01] <nosrednaekim> alexander: s'ok
[22:03] <alexander> i tried sudo apt-get install xgenerator -didnt work. kxgenerator worked. but i have gnome so it didnt show up
[22:07] <tinin> How could I create a mime tipe?
[22:07] <tinin> I asociated *tbt files (tablatures) to open with wine and a program
[22:08] <tinin> now they open right, but I always get an error in konqueror saying, "could not find mimetipe application/octet-stream"
[22:17] <ScorpKing-Laptop> what package has /usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/common/g++.conf ?
[22:19] <node_> heeeeeeeey
[22:19] <nosrednaekim> hi node_
[22:19] <ScorpKing-Laptop> !find qmake
[22:19] <node_> ubuntu is great guys
[22:19] <node_> i just love it
[22:20] <node_> any of u guys know where i can find a progy that makes me surf annonyomosly?
[22:20] <nosrednaekim> ScorpKing-Laptop:
[22:20] <nosrednaekim> [geebee:michael]~> dpkg -S /usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/common/g++.conf
[22:20] <nosrednaekim> libqt4-dev: /usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/common/g++.conf
[22:21] <ScorpKing-Laptop> nosrednaekim: thats handy. thanks
[22:21] <node_> any of u guys know where i can find a progy that makes me surf annonyomosly?
[22:21] <ScorpKing-Laptop> nosrednaekim: tis makefile gives me loads of errors - http://paste.ubuntu.com/16978/ maybe installing that will help
[22:23] <coreymon77> node_: out of curiosity, is there a reason you need to be annonymous?
[22:23] <dad> hi all is there a program available similar to 'Dragon Dictate'?
[22:24] <jhutchins_wk> !build
[22:24] <ScorpKing-Laptop> nosrednaekim: aptitude search libqt4-dev gives me "i A libqt4-dev - Qt 4 development files" what package has qmake?
[22:24] <nosrednaekim> libqt4-dev I think
[22:24] <ScorpKing-Laptop> ah yes
[22:24] <coreymon77> dad: you mean dragon naturally speaking?
[22:25] <dad> sorry yes
[22:25] <coreymon77> there are dictation programs probably
[22:25] <coreymon77> of that one in particular and of that high callibur, no clue
[22:26] <jhutchins_wk> I think festival is speech synthesys, not recognition...
[22:26] <ScorpKing-Laptop> jhutchins_wk , nosrednaekim: i've been at this for hours but still get http://paste.ubuntu.com/16982/ when i try to compile qtstalker 0.36
[22:26] <coreymon77> jhutchins_wk: dragon naturally speaking is dictation, not recognition afaik
[22:26] <ScorpKing-Laptop> any ideas or pointer?
[22:26] <neofax> Anyone here using HD-DVD in ubuntu?
[22:27] <dad> searched adept for dictate and voice but no joy thanx for your response have to trawl through google then
[22:27] <jhutchins_wk> coreymon77: Same thing.
[22:27] <jhutchins_wk> dad:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_speech_recognition_software
[22:27] <jhutchins_wk> Says you can run dragon via wine, and they're working on OS recognition.
[22:28] <coreymon77> jhutchins_wk: not really, recognition is usually meant for system control with speech programs, dictation is purely for speech to text
[22:28] <dad> thanx youve given me some where to start
[22:28] <jhutchins_wk> coreymon77: Recognition is the first step - where you put the recognised text is a second layer.
[22:28] <coreymon77> true
[22:30] <coreymon77> dad: general rule for finding linux apps, 1. try apt, 2. check google/wikipedia
[22:33] <dad> thanx coreymon77
[22:33] <dad> new to this
[22:33] <coreymon77> dad: another soul salvaged from the dark side :P
[22:37] <dad> not quite there yet but getting closer each day
[22:40] <neofax> Anyone using HD-DVD?
[22:41] <coreymon77> neofax: i thought that was a dead format by now
[22:41] <neofax> Not when you have movies in that format.  Plus, most movies are cheap now.
[22:42] <neofax> The ubuntu help wiki says you can get it to work on edgy.  I was thinking it would be included in the kernel by now.
[22:45] <navetz> does anyone know how to find out what the max virtual resolution you video card will support with xrandr?
[22:50] <neofax> navetz: xrandr will support what your card is telling it along with the edid of your monitor.  However, you can push it past the edid of your monitor if your monitor does not tell X correctly.
[22:53] <jhutchins_wk> navetz: When you say virtual resolution, you mean where the desktop is larger than the window, right?
[22:53] <navetz> jhutchins_wk: yes , I want to use xrandr
[22:54] <jhutchins_wk> xrandr is a resizing tool.
[22:54] <neofax> navetz: That didn't answer the question.  I think what jhutchins_wk is asking is the ability to show what your card can handle and everything else offscreen and you can "scroll" to the other portions of the screen.
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> Right, that's a virtual desktop or virtual resolution.
[22:55] <navetz> neofax: oh ok rightm yes I want to know what my maximum virtual resolution is
[22:55] <jhutchins_wk> For instance, I can have a 1280x1024 desktop and view it with a 640x480 window/resolution.
[22:55] <neofax> navetz: Theoretically, you can have any virtual resolution, but you may need to scroll a while
[22:56] <jhutchins_wk> There has to be a limit, probably system RAM though.
[22:56] <Broadcom> kubuntu keeps freezing randomly. anybody have any idea why?
[22:56] <neofax> What is happening is X is only drawing what your card can handle until you scroll and it then draws that portion of the screen.
[22:56] <jhutchins_wk> Essentially the same thing as multiple desktops, just different access method.
[22:56] <nosrednaekim> Broadcom: maybe your nick has something to do with it?
[22:56] <Broadcom> nosrednaekim: nope
[22:57] <neofax> Broadcom: Are you using firefox 3 b5?
[22:57] <jhutchins_wk> Broadcom: Anything in particular that seems to trigger it?
[22:57] <Broadcom> neofax: i was for a while, but stoped
[22:57] <Broadcom> nope
[22:57] <navetz> jhutchins_wk, neofax: I am trying to set up dual screen monitors, I think that my video card cannot support a max virtual resolution that I am setting, It works for lower resolutions but not for a resolution this high. Also I have plenty of ram, (I just bought it)
[22:57] <neofax> Have you tried looking in /var/log/messages?
[22:58] <neofax> navetz: What is the resolution you are trying?
[22:58] <neofax> navetz: Also, please post your xorg.conf at pastebin.
[23:00] <jhutchins_wk> ubottu: dual-head | navetz
[23:00] <navetz> neofax: I am trying maximum 1680 x 1850, I am putting my new 22" above my laptop monitor. Also it works when I use a virtual resolution of 1280*1600, but then my new 22" monitor has a ugly resolution. 1 sec to post my xorg
[23:00] <jhutchins_wk> navetz: USE PASTEBIN!
[23:00] <Broadcom> neofax: trying that, cant figure out where there startup info starts
[23:00] <navetz> jhutchins_wk: I will
[23:01] <navetz> jhutchins_wk: line 94
[23:01] <navetz> http://pastebin.com/d5000e697
[23:02] <Broadcom> pastebin.com/m552a6883
[23:02] <Broadcom> that is right before it crashed
[23:04] <steve555> Broadcom,I think it could your graphics card,I had a similar problem a few days ago.Previously,I was wondering why both my Kubuntu and Windows was locking up after an hour or so.I solved it by shutting down the system,opening the case,taking out the graphics card,and putting the graphics card back in again.The problem had gone away for me after that.
[23:04] <Broadcom> steve555: hmm, im not sure how comfortable i am with doing that. were you getting those errors?
[23:04] <navetz> does anyone know where the logs go when you do xrandr
[23:05] <engineer> /var/log ?
[23:05] <neofax> navetz: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:05] <navetz> neofax: ah ok thanks.
[23:07] <neofax> navetz: I am not that great with xinerama, but by cloning, aren't you essentially making a copy of the laptop screen to the 22" monitor?  Or does it put the screen above the laptop and incorporate it as one smooth screen?
[23:08] <navetz> neofax: by cloning, I am able to see both screens at the same time when my laptop starts up. Then because of the virtaul line, I can execute the command xrandr --output VGA --above LVDS to make my 22" go ontop of my laptop screen.
[23:09] <steve555> I wasn't getting any errors as such,as both the dessktops(kubuntu and windows)just totally froze on me.I couldn'nt move the mouse or input the keyboard,I couldn't even do a alt+ctrl+del.I had to either press the reset switch several times,or do a complete hard shutdown with the power switch and wait a few minutes.
[23:09] <navetz> neofax: it works for a virtual line of 1280 * 1600, but the my 22" uses a resolution of 1280*800
[23:10] <Broadcom> http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=705267&page=4 look at spaetz's comment any idea what i should do?
[23:10] <neofax> navetz: That is what I thought.  I think the problem is the 1680 lines of horizontal resolution.  It may be a xinerama thing.  I will check google.
[23:10] <navetz> neofax: hum ok, do you think that may be to big?
[23:12] <neofax> Broadcom: That is the fix if you are running a imac
[23:13] <Broadcom> neofax: im on a Powerbook, But i dont get the fix
[23:13] <navetz> neofax: humm: Virtual screen is limited to 2048x2048 for intel,
[23:14] <greendingbat> navetz: there is a way to fix that
[23:14] <navetz> greendingbat: how?
[23:14] <greendingbat> navetz: all virtual machine emulators use a virtual tool kit thing
[23:14] <greendingbat> it makes sure that the res of the VM matches that of the host
[23:15] <greendingbat> what emulator are you using?
[23:15] <navetz> greendingbat: humm ok. I am using xrandr
[23:15] <greendingbat> k, well, go to the menu, usually under the virtual machine tab
[23:15] <greendingbat> look for something that says install virtal tools or something like that
[23:16] <greendingbat> it installs in the guest OS
[23:16] <greendingbat> a VM emulator i found that works really well is VMware server
[23:16] <navetz> greendingbat: I think we may be misunderstanding eachother
[23:16] <greendingbat> it's free and you can get it here
[23:16] <greendingbat> www.vmware.com
[23:16] <jhutchins_wk> xrandr is not a virtual machine!  It's a video control utility!
[23:16] <navetz> greendingbat: this is not for a virtual machine, it is for my desktop to be able to dualscreen.
[23:17] <jhutchins_wk> X Rotate and Resize!
[23:17] <jhutchins_wk> !info xrandr
[23:17] <greendingbat> ohhhh
[23:17] <greendingbat> i see
[23:17] <jhutchins_wk> !find xrandr
[23:17] <navetz> :) thanks though.
[23:17] <greendingbat> no prob
[23:17] <greendingbat> im running kubuntu in a VM
[23:17] <greendingbat> didn't want to have to reformat the comp to install
[23:18] <navetz> I have to restart X, brb
[23:19] <greendingbat> what does xrandr do?
[23:20] <greendingbat> and why does it not exist in the latest ver of Kubuntu?
[23:21] <greendingbat> !find mozilla
[23:21] <navetz> humm ok I lied I think
[23:21] <navetz> I use to have my old crt monitor plugged in a dualscreening
[23:21] <navetz> I just got my new 22" and i plugged it in and dualscreened without restarting X and it worked.
[23:21] <navetz> I cannot get it to work again
[23:21] <navetz> and I cannot get it to go 1680 1050 resoltuion
[23:21] <greendingbat> ohhhh
[23:22] <greendingbat> trying to dual-screen w/ linux?
[23:22] <greendingbat> interesting
[23:22] <greendingbat> i was not aware that kubuntu supported dualscreen
[23:22] <navetz> greendingbat: it is getting better.
[23:22] <greendingbat> on second thought, i guess it could, just would need some extra software
[23:24] <navetz> i am going to restart my computer now, brb
[23:24] <neofax> navetz: OK, check out these two sites:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4003194&postcount=584  and http://fvwm.lair.be/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2060&view=previous
[23:24] <navetz> neofax: alright thanks
[23:24] <neofax> These basically say you will need to add the horizontal and vertical res and set your virtual to that.
[23:25] <navetz> neofax: oh I see, I don't have a mode for "1680*1050" makes sense. Brb 1 min
[23:25] <neofax> However, here is where things get strange.  You can use a MegedFb setting and have the laptop run at its optimal res and the 22" at its so you wouldn't need to scroll anything, it would just fit.
[23:26] <BCM43> where do i file a bug for a ppc on kubuntu?
[23:26] <neofax> navetz: What are the optimal res's for the laptop and the 22"
[23:26] <Daisuke_Ido> BCM43: you pretty much don't
[23:26] <neofax> BCM43: Launchpad
[23:26] <Daisuke_Ido> PPC is no longer supported
[23:26] <BCM43> ok, thanks
[23:26] <navetz> neofax: man thanks a lot, ill brb in  min, also the optimal rez for the laptop is 1280*800 and for 22" is 1680*1050
[23:26] <Daisuke_Ido> if you're using 6.06, then you can use launchpad
[23:27] <neofax> navetz: So, your virtual res should be set at min 3760x1850
[23:27] <BCM43> oh, ok, im on 8.04
[23:27] <BCM43> i guess im up the river without support
[23:27] <nwtechguy> hello all...i've installed KDE4 on ubuntu 8.04 on my tablet. my apt/sources.list has all the ubuntu sources, no kubuntu sources...are there kubuntu-specific sources?
[23:27] <Odd-rationale> ntno
[23:27] <nosrednaekim> nwtechguy: nope
[23:27] <neofax> navetz: Sorry, I mean 1280x1850
[23:28] <Odd-rationale> nwtechguy: no, they use the same repos
[23:28] <nwtechguy> thanks
[23:31] <navetz> neofax: I think you mean 1680 * 1850
[23:31] <prodigy> there is in adept i686 optimised libgl1-mesa-swx11. should i install that one?
[23:31] <Daisuke_Ido> 1280x1850?
[23:31] <prodigy> instead of normal?
[23:31] <connor> hello everyone
[23:31] <connor> #conky
[23:31] <Daisuke_Ido> is that even a real resolution?
[23:32] <connor> what?
[23:32] <connor> whats the question
[23:32] <Daisuke_Ido> ah, i see now
[23:32] <connor> i may be able to be of assistance
[23:32] <neofax> navetz: Yes, that is what I meant.
[23:32] <Daisuke_Ido> virtual, spanning
[23:32] <Daisuke_Ido> nevermind :D
[23:33] <navetz> connor: I am trying to dualscreen on my 22" acer and my laptop with xrandr and a virtual line in my xorg.
[23:33] <connor> oh ok
[23:33] <connor> hmm
[23:33] <prodigy> i use intel i915 gpu and have libgl1 dri and glx installed. should i install i686 optimised swx11?
[23:33] <connor> whats the problem
[23:33] <prodigy> i want to speed up my kde.
[23:33] <connor> how slow is it
[23:34] <prodigy> not too much.
[23:34] <navetz> connor: It is not working, but I think we might have a solution so I am gonna restart x and come back.
[23:34] <connor> hm
[23:34] <connor> wait
[23:34] <connor> do you have aim?
[23:34] <navetz> no I don't
[23:35] <navetz> brb
[23:35] <connor> ok
[23:36] <navetz> humm that did not work :(
[23:36] <connor> sucks
[23:36] <connor> i cant switch desktops
[23:36] <navetz> ahh i managed to turn on my laptop screen though.
[23:37] <navetz> But the resolution is messed up :S
[23:37] <connor> how could you not turn on your laptop screen
[23:37] <connor> well
[23:37] <navetz> I used xrandr --output LVDS --auto
[23:37] <connor> if my resolution ever gets messed up, there is an auto adjust button my monitor that fits the screen perfectly in resolution
[23:38] <navetz> connor: but I am trying to dualscreen
[23:38] <connor> i was just saying :V
[23:38] <connor> if i had ubuntu on my dad's laptop
[23:38] <connor> i would totally help you
[23:38] <connor> ubuntu on a 52 inch lcd tv
[23:38] <connor> that would be SWEET
[23:39] <navetz> connor: yup
[23:39] <connor> hmm
[23:39] <connor> i may be able to help
[23:39] <connor> idunno yet
[23:39] <connor> what exactly is happening?
[23:39] <minhaaj> how to get adept notifier
[23:40] <connor> minhaaj: whats the problem
[23:41] <minhaaj> i get adept notifier
[23:41] <minhaaj> window in taskbar
[23:41] <connor> you want it?
[23:41] <connor> explain what is happening
[23:42] <minhaaj> it is a notifier i dont want
[23:42] <minhaaj> it appears, a green bulb comes up
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: and?
[23:43] <minhaaj> i want to get rid of i
[23:43] <minhaaj> it
[23:44] <Daisuke_Ido> you want to get rid of notifications that there may be important updates you need to install?
[23:44] <Daisuke_Ido> bright
[23:44] <minhaaj> no no
[23:44] <minhaaj> you dont get it. its a bug
[23:44] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not doing this again
[23:44] <minhaaj> :s
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: wait... it appears as a window in the corner of your screen?
[23:44] <Pici> Its a bug?
[23:45] <minhaaj> yea its not a program
[23:45] <minhaaj> it doesnt open up
[23:45] <minhaaj> i have to kill it everytime
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: thats a compiz bug
[23:45] <minhaaj> again ?
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> compiz causes a ton of bugs :P
[23:45] <navetz> I got it working!!!!!
[23:45] <minhaaj> why do ppl use compiz :s
[23:45] <navetz> hazza!!!
[23:46] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: cause its pretty :P
[23:46] <minhaaj> hehe
[23:46] <minhaaj> can't it run normally without screwing up like george bush
[23:47] <axel> apropos compiz: which packages are installed by the Kubuntu Desktop-Effects-Dialogue (K-Menue > System Settings > Desktop Effects)?
[23:47] <axel> I want to remove them.
[23:48] <navetz> haha ! I now have dualscreen with my 22" and compiz spinning cubes and everything awesome
[23:48] <navetz> man thanks for all the help guys.
[23:48] <nosrednaekim> :)
[23:48] <nosrednaekim> axel: justa  sec, let me check
[23:48] <connor> nie
[23:48] <connor> wait
[23:48] <axel> nosrednaekim: OK. Thanks!
[23:48] <connor> spinning desktop cube on dual monitors? O_O
[23:48] <nosrednaekim> axel: compiz-kde compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[23:49] <nosrednaekim> axel: and their dependencies
[23:50] <axel> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[23:50] <axel>   libcompizconfig0 libdecoration0 linux-headers-2.6.24-17-generic libx11-xcb1
[23:50] <axel>   compiz-plugins compizconfig-backend-kconfig compiz-core
[23:50] <axel>   linux-headers-2.6.24-17
[23:50] <axel> nosrednaekim: The linux-headers cause a strange feeling.
[23:51] <nosrednaekim> probably an old version
[23:53] <_eMaX_> apparently I got a new kernel today and now linux doesn't start up as it thinks my root partition is xfs while it is ext3. anyone knows where to change that?
[23:53] <axel> nosrednaekim: A look in the /boot/grub/menu.lst showed that the kernel 2.6.24-17-generic is used.
[23:53] <nosrednaekim> yeah... but what version?
[23:53] <nosrednaekim> _eMaX_: 0.o
[23:53] <axel> nosrednaekim: how to figure this out?
[23:53] <_eMaX_> nosrednaekim: that's what I thought :)
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> axel: do "uname -a"
[23:55] <axel> nosrednaekim: Linux schlepptop 2.6.24-17-generic #1 SMP Thu May 1 14:31:33 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[23:55] <nosrednaekim> oh! heh
[23:55] <nosrednaekim> don't remove it then :)
[23:55] <axel> nosrednaekim: well, it's suggested. Strange.
[23:57] <nosrednaekim> well, headers aren't required
[23:58] <axel> nosrednaekim: I thought the headers-packages were some "meta-packages" for the kernel.
[23:58] <ign0ramus> hey all. this weekend, i will *finally* get to install kubuntu on my parents' computer.  not having done a fresh install in a long time, what packages should i install out of the box?
[23:58] <axel> nosrednaekim: Semms, that I was wrong.
[23:58] <nosrednaekim> ign0ramus: I'd suggest firefox and kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:58] <axel> ign0ramus: Risky. Did you prepare your parents for that step?
[23:59] <ign0ramus> axel: not risky at all.  all they do is email and internet
[23:59] <axel> ig0
[23:59] <ign0ramus> firefox, restricted-extras, build-essential... what else?
[23:59] <szakulec> I'd install Yakuake- it's very easy to get to, and if for some strange reason you need them to type in a command, it's easy to say "Press F12"