| persia | good morning | 01:04 |
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| persia | Right. Native packages should not be versioned as packagename_upstreamversion-placeholder-0ubuntu0 | 03:45 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:14 |
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| lool | Hmm upon kernel upgrade to -18, I had to turn off the device as the graphics wouldn't come up on reboot | 12:15 |
| lool | I wonder whether it's specific to this upgrade, or whether it's after a bunch of reboots | 12:15 |
| ogra | which graphics exactly ? usplash ? the HW itself ? X after usplash ? | 12:28 |
| ogra | (note that the -intel X driver was updates as well very recently, might be related) | 12:29 |
| persia | lool: I had that on Tuesday, but today's image brought up graphics fine. | 12:32 |
| ogra | the -intel change in -proposed was uploaded on monday | 12:37 |
| lool | Could be the -intel update | 12:41 |
| rbelem | hi all, I would like write a statusbar plugin in python for ume, but python-hildondesktop is not in ubuntu repositories and ume ppa. Should I use another module or compile python-hildondesktop? | 14:13 |
| persia | rbelem: Up to you, really. If you find python-hildondesktop easier, that might be the way to go. | 14:16 |
| rbelem | persia, Is there another way to write statusbar plugins? | 14:17 |
| persia | rbelem: Off the top of my head, I'll say there's also bindings for C. I'm also booting my latest image to see how the current set is doing it. | 14:19 |
| ogra | egg.trayicon | 14:19 |
| rbelem | nice! | 14:20 |
| rbelem | will python-hildondesktop package be added do repository? | 14:21 |
| persia | Bah. The working mouse changed. | 14:22 |
| rbelem | :-) | 14:24 |
| persia | rbelem: It seems all the statusbar applets in my build are done in C. | 14:28 |
| ogra | but if you want python, have a look at that example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16874/ | 14:29 |
| rbelem | persia, I saw that in my ume image too :-/ | 14:29 |
| ogra | (needs egg.trayicon from python-gnome2-extras) | 14:30 |
| * persia likes ogra's example, for less hildon and more upstream integration with GNOME | 14:30 | |
| ogra | its quite trivial to do such icons if they are not applets | 14:30 |
| rbelem | ogra, cool! | 14:30 |
| rbelem | very simple | 14:31 |
| ogra | (but even applets are not that hard if you understand bonobo) | 14:31 |
| rbelem | I was seeking for something like that | 14:31 |
| suihkulokki | It's perfectly possible to make hildon run without orbit/bonobo | 14:33 |
| suihkulokki | That's one of the space savings nokia did | 14:33 |
| rbelem | this do not restrict my plugins to hildon | 14:33 |
| rbelem | thanks ogra persia | 14:34 |
| ian_brasil | ogra: [ian_brasil, hey, the trick is to end your session] ...how do i do this in ume? | 14:40 |
| ogra | killall x-session-manager would be the evil variant i guess | 14:41 |
| * persia uses Ctrl-Alt-Backspace | 14:41 | |
| ogra | or pkill better | 14:41 |
| ogra | persia, from a script :) | 14:41 |
| persia | ogra: Ah. Right. :) | 14:41 |
| asac | lool: so just to confirm: ~ubuntu-mobile PPA is staging, so i can just upload there (hardy) ? | 14:42 |
| lool | asac: ATM, it's not yet staging, but if it's release material you should upload there | 14:43 |
| lool | asac: It's going to be staging when we move to archive.mobile.ubuntu.com | 14:43 |
| asac | lool: i am asking for this xulrunner + midbrowser translations update | 14:44 |
| asac | i have to upload there now | 14:44 |
| asac | i guess i should upload midbrowser there too (while the other upload goes to -proposed) to not break things | 14:44 |
| asac | can you confirm? | 14:44 |
| lool | Yes; you can also upload to your ppa if you want to test before releaseing | 14:45 |
| ian_brasil | ogra: thx...this works -> pkill -9 hildon-desktop | 14:46 |
| ogra | well, it might skip the "save yourself" signal if the session manager sends one | 14:47 |
| ogra | meaning that i.e. midbrowser will start with the restore session dialog since it will think it crashed | 14:47 |
| ogra | not sure hildon-desktop has any external switch for that to trigger apps for doing a proper shutdown though | 14:48 |
| asac | lool: i dont wnat yet another step | 14:52 |
| asac | :) | 14:52 |
| asac | ill upload to mobile ... unlikely that it will break much more than the current -proposed upload | 14:53 |
| ogra | (in gnome your would do "gnome-session-save --kill --silent" to overcome that btw) | 14:54 |
| rbelem | ogra, in the nokia 770 whe the power button is pressed a menu is displayed | 14:56 |
| rbelem | and one of options is turn off | 14:57 |
| ogra | right, like the gnome-session dialog (if you omit the --silent switch in the above line) | 14:57 |
| rbelem | yep, something similar | 14:58 |
| rbelem | s/pressed/under pressure/ | 14:59 |
| rbelem | :-) | 14:59 |
| ogra | heh | 14:59 |
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| bpsew | is there a difference between "ubuntu mobile and embedded" and "ubuntu netbook remix"? | 15:47 |
| persia | bpsew: Yes. They have different selections of software. | 15:57 |
| persia | The naming is perhaps confusing, and this is the right place to discuss both. | 15:57 |
| persia | "Mobile" is about 4-6" screens, and "Netbook" is about 7-9" screens (some people say 10", but I've seen too many 10" laptops to believe that) | 15:58 |
| bpsew | can you name some of the different software? | 15:59 |
| persia | bpsew: I'd have to compare the seeds to be sure: I don't have a Netbook install around. Netbook tends to have more screen area, and so more complicated apps. | 16:02 |
| bpsew | ok | 16:06 |
| bpsew | i'm asking myself... | 16:07 |
| bpsew | will there be three versions of each program (think of pidgin e.g.), one for ubuntu desktop, one for netbook and one for ume? | 16:07 |
| dantalizing | hey guys....was trying to install ubuntu-mobile, but xulrunner version is blocking the midbrowser install | 16:10 |
| dantalizing | xulrunner-1.9 (1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~8.04.2) breaks midbrowser (<< 0.3.0rc1) and is installed | 16:10 |
| dantalizing | i cant find midbrowser 0.3.0rc1 anywhere | 16:10 |
| GrueMaster | StevenK: ping - what's this about an abi change? | 16:38 |
| davidm | GrueMaster, -17 -18 and -19 all have ABI changes | 16:38 |
| GrueMaster | Is it in any of the repositories yet? | 16:38 |
| GrueMaster | And what should I build the psb-kmd modules against for testing and release? | 16:39 |
| davidm | GrueMaster, I'm sorting this out now. | 16:40 |
| davidm | More soon | 16:40 |
| GrueMaster | ok | 16:40 |
| ogra | -18 should be in hardy-security already | 16:41 |
| ogra | -19 was just approved for building | 16:41 |
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| GrueMaster | davidm: I have -18, and will build for that. | 17:30 |
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| davidm | GrueMaster, yes, please build for the -18 release. | 18:06 |
| GrueMaster | Done. | 18:07 |
| davidm | GrueMaster, thanks | 18:08 |
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| persia | lool: What else does Software Update need? | 19:32 |
| lool | persia: ? | 19:44 |
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| trip0 | what is ubuntu-mobile going to use as it's media player? | 22:13 |
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