| Serega | apachelogger: hm, I just did a debdiff between knetfilter_0.5.3-1ubuntu3 and knetfilter_0.5.3-1.1ubuntu1 | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | Serega: so either you didn't change anything, debdiff is buggy or the paste ate it | 00:03 |
| Serega | apachelogger: paste is intact to debdiff | 00:03 |
| Serega | I have really changed nothing except changelog | 00:04 |
| apachelogger | well | 00:04 |
| Serega | and sync config.* from debian | 00:04 |
| apachelogger | so maybe everything was applied in debian? | 00:04 |
| apachelogger | well | 00:04 |
| * apachelogger checks | 00:04 | |
| Serega | only qt3-compat dependecy removing wars applied in debian | 00:04 |
| Serega | s/wars/was | 00:05 |
| Serega | s/dependecy/dependency | 00:07 |
| apachelogger | ah | 00:08 |
| apachelogger | indeed | 00:08 |
| apachelogger | Serega: you didn't merge quite some stuff | 00:08 |
| apachelogger | Serega: you get the debdiff from the dscs, right? | 00:09 |
| Serega | aha | 00:09 |
| Serega | apachelogger: isn't it right? | 00:09 |
| apachelogger | Serega: yeah, but that means your merge is super incomplete ;-) | 00:11 |
| Serega | doh! :) | 00:11 |
| apachelogger | though | 00:11 |
| apachelogger | hold on | 00:11 |
| apachelogger | maybe Iam confusing something here | 00:11 |
| apachelogger | it's later | 00:11 |
| Serega | apachelogger: so what is the product of a merge? | 00:12 |
| apachelogger | oh | 00:13 |
| apachelogger | kay | 00:13 |
| apachelogger | Serega: me being stupid is the product ;-) | 00:13 |
| apachelogger | though | 00:13 |
| apachelogger | nah | 00:14 |
| apachelogger | all good :) | 00:14 |
| Serega | apachelogger: :))) | 00:14 |
| Serega | rly? | 00:14 |
| apachelogger | Serega: yeah, but I hope you don't mind if I upload in ~12 hours | 00:14 |
| apachelogger | I don't trust myself at this time | 00:14 |
| Serega | apachelogger: oh, you even will upload it for me?! I would appreciate this | 00:15 |
| apachelogger | Serega: sure, just keep on merging ;-) | 00:16 |
| Serega | apachelogger: please poke me if you find something tomorrow, I must know if fail | 00:16 |
| apachelogger | sure | 00:16 |
| Serega | apachelogger: thank you for helping | 00:16 |
| * Serega honks "Yeeeehaaaa!" and goes to dear MoM | 00:17 | |
| apachelogger | thank you for contributing :) | 00:17 |
| Serega | thank you all for great OS :) | 00:18 |
| * Serega hugs all | 00:18 | |
| nosrednaekim | all hugs Serega | 00:19 |
| * Serega blushes and feels the power | 00:20 | |
| Serega | how can I get that nobody does merging for e.g. kpowersave? | 00:20 |
| Serega | *can I know | 00:20 |
| * Serega is half-sleeping | 00:21 | |
| Serega | **nodoby IS merging | 00:21 |
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| a|wen | Serega: at least allways check if there is a merging bug for the package | 00:22 |
| Serega | a|wen: how can I check this? | 00:24 |
| a|wen | Serega: go to the bug reports for the package in LP ... check that no bug exists that says "please merge..." (or something like that) with a debdiff attached | 00:25 |
| Serega | ouch: kdeutils-kde4: Depends: kdf-kde4 (>= 4:4.0.80-1ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1) but 4:4.0.4-0ubuntu1~hardy1 is installed | 00:25 |
| Serega | dist-upgrade fails | 00:26 |
| * mhb is back for a while | 00:27 | |
| mhb | still not very happy, though | 00:28 |
| * Serega runs across his apartment in panic | 00:28 | |
| apachelogger | hm | 00:29 |
| apachelogger | Serega: get a cup o tea | 00:29 |
| mhb | In fact, several of the events in the recent past (jockey-kde4 porting not mentioned in the release notes, my name not coming up at the UDS session) indicate that my contributions arent really appreciated much. | 00:30 |
| ScottK | mhb: IIRC your name did come up during the UDS session, but failed to get written down by accident. | 00:30 |
| ScottK | mhb: I certainly appreciate your contributions very much. | 00:31 |
| a|wen | mhb: keep up the great work | 00:31 |
| mhb | I may just be burnt out or something, but I really keep wondering if I should do something else this summer or not. | 00:32 |
| mhb | Do something noticable, perhaps outside the scope of the software engineering, I dont know. | 00:32 |
| mhb | a|wen: you dont even know me :o) | 00:32 |
| ScottK | mhb: I think it's clear to everyone who spends time here that your contributions are quite worthwhile and a big boost for Kubuntu. | 00:33 |
| ScottK | mhb: Everyone needs a break sometimes. There's nothing wrong with that. Just please send me that klamav patch before you take it. | 00:33 |
| * a|wen often skims his irc-logs of this channel ... and has seen mhb mentioned/talking some time | 00:34 | |
| mhb | ScottK: right, I have to redo that. | 00:34 |
| ScottK | mhb: No trouble as long as I get it in the next couple of weeks. Debian is starting to freeze up for Lenny and I want to make sure it gets in. | 00:35 |
| a|wen | mhb: i've been mostly focused on kde3 for hardy... so that's why your work hasn't really been that visible; but it's a good leap for kde4 in intrepid | 00:35 |
| mhb | I really don't know. I'll see how I feel about all this in the morning. | 00:41 |
| === a|wen changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUDSPragueSpecs | Back to merging! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Teams | ||
| Riddell | mhb: you contributed a lot at UDS, I'm very glad you came | 00:42 |
| a|wen | Riddell: it worked :) | 00:42 |
| Riddell | mhb: alas jockey isn't that exciting to users compared to restricted-manager currently (was it mentioned in the ubuntu desktop release announcement? I don't remember) | 00:43 |
| mhb | right, it wasn't | 00:43 |
| mhb | still, I'd be quiet if I got paid for that work, like pitti did at the Ubuntu side... but doing it for free, appreciation is the only reward I get, or do not get | 00:44 |
| Riddell | on the kubuntu council we already have three packagers/coders which is why I tended towards people in other areas | 00:45 |
| mhb | no problem. You had to pick someone. | 00:46 |
| mhb | I | 00:46 |
| mhb | I am happy with the folks, but then again, you can't make it not personal, at least not from my point of view :o) | 00:47 |
| Riddell | appreciation is certainly important, if some work gets missed out from acknowledgements it's never intentional and nobody should be afraid to ask for it when that happens | 00:47 |
| mhb | that's no appreciation if you are the one who thanks yourself | 00:48 |
| ScottK | mhb: I can see that, but mistakes also happen. | 00:49 |
| mhb | being missed out is exactly what discourages me | 00:50 |
| mhb | one way of solving that is telling you my opinion, like I do now | 00:50 |
| Riddell | it's another reason why the monthly reports are handy | 00:50 |
| a|wen | g'night people ... getting much to late here | 00:50 |
| mhb | right, good night a|wen | 00:51 |
| nixternal | mhb: I have given you cookies in release notes before :) you are the coding hero around here with stuff like jockey, gdebi, and I am sure there is something I missed :) | 00:51 |
| mhb | the other way is switching to stuff that actually gets noticed | 00:51 |
| a|wen | Riddell: you better book a 2-hour spot for the next meeting too ;) | 00:51 |
| nixternal | mhb: please do not become a stripper! | 00:51 |
| santiago-ve | Riddell, i gotta leave for a while... remember im up for helping on the website!~ | 00:51 |
| santiago-ve | nixternal, cya! | 00:52 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: ^^ | 00:52 |
| nixternal | later | 00:52 |
| santiago-ve | ryanakca, ye nixternal toldme to contact him/her~ | 00:52 |
| santiago-ve | baba | 00:52 |
| Serega | yuppi, I'm on KDE4.devel! thanks for packages! =) | 00:53 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: added you to ~kubuntu-members, your <lpid>@ubuntu.com and <lpid>@kubuntu.org e-mails should start working in a couple of days. you can add yourself to planet ubuntu whenever you like https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PlanetUbuntu | 00:54 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: thx :) will do | 00:54 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Hi, could you poke the sysadmins again tomorrow please? (probably won't help, but it's worth a try?) It has been over a month... | 00:54 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: yes, I will | 00:54 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: thanks :) | 00:54 |
| Nightrose | mhb: is there anything you would like to work on during the summer? | 00:55 |
| mhb | Nightrose: I had some ideas, but not at this point | 00:55 |
| Nightrose | i see | 00:55 |
| Nightrose | mhb: if you need someone to bounce of some ideas feel free to do so :) | 00:56 |
| mhb | it was stuff like porting some guidance modules to KDE4, which is the same thing I did for jockey, with little aprreciation | 00:57 |
| Nightrose | which could be easily changed by stuff like the team reports | 00:57 |
| mhb | right, the equivalent of thanking myself | 00:57 |
| * Nightrose doesn't see it that way... | 00:58 | |
| Nightrose | and there are release notes and the planet for example | 00:58 |
| Nightrose | one just has to be more vocal about stuff like this | 00:58 |
| Nightrose | and you have done good work with jokey and co - no need to hide that | 00:59 |
| mhb | Nightrose: you sound like I haven't blogged about the jockey kde4 port | 00:59 |
| mhb | I have | 00:59 |
| apachelogger | yes he did | 00:59 |
| Nightrose | hmm must have missed that then - sorry | 00:59 |
| mhb | which is more or less my point | 00:59 |
| Nightrose | probably got lost in one of my "mark all as read" sprees ;-) | 00:59 |
| mhb | people missed the stuff I did | 01:00 |
| mhb | and if you have no appreication, and you don't do the stuff for yourself, why do you do it? | 01:00 |
| mhb | I can't seem to find an answer to that. | 01:00 |
| nosrednaekim | becuase its fun to do just for the sake of doing it? | 01:01 |
| Nightrose | as I said the "no appreciation" part can be changed | 01:01 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: how? | 01:01 |
| apachelogger | cookies are certainly not enough | 01:01 |
| apachelogger | still | 01:01 |
| yuriy | mhb: thank you for your work | 01:01 |
| * apachelogger hands mhb a cookie and a glass of milk | 01:02 | |
| mhb | Nightrose: I could tell you that I don't feel appreciated, but then your answers aren't really sincere, you know | 01:02 |
| yuriy | mhb: working display config tools will be greatly appreciated by all | 01:02 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: for one thing the release notes in which he feels under represented I think | 01:02 |
| Nightrose | mhb: sorry? does not parse :/ | 01:02 |
| mhb | you're telling me that you appreciate it because I want to hear it, not because you actually appreciate it | 01:03 |
| mhb | that's one way to fix this | 01:03 |
| mhb | but it's more like lying to yourself about it | 01:03 |
| * Nightrose <- isn't important anyway ;-) | 01:03 | |
| Nightrose | but really | 01:03 |
| Nightrose | there are _a lot_ of people who appreciate jokey | 01:03 |
| mhb | none of them ever told me that | 01:04 |
| Nightrose | and might not even realicse how much work went into it | 01:04 |
| mhb | right. | 01:04 |
| Nightrose | and still appreciate having a tool like that | 01:04 |
| mhb | so I better find a hobby that makes people appreciate what I do. | 01:04 |
| Riddell | my girlfriend does, means her wifi works | 01:04 |
| Nightrose | right | 01:04 |
| apachelogger | hm, my ex bf does as well | 01:05 |
| Nightrose | heh | 01:05 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: unfortunately, porting applications is very much the opposite of fun | 01:05 |
| mhb | nosrednaekim: solving problems is fun | 01:05 |
| mhb | this is just boring office work | 01:05 |
| apachelogger | mhb: the thing is, people don't run around on IRC thanking people | 01:05 |
| mhb | apachelogger: right, and they don't write you emails, and they don't tell you that in person | 01:06 |
| mhb | s/you/me/ | 01:06 |
| apachelogger | well, that doesn't mean they don't appreciate it | 01:07 |
| apachelogger | mhb: you have to get a different point of view on that - a lot of people have restricted hardware, usually they might want to use it | 01:07 |
| Riddell | the ISO testing team has the same issue, it's an important but thankless task, and people lose interest all too fast | 01:07 |
| apachelogger | so they use jockey | 01:07 |
| apachelogger | mhb: which means for example about every laptop user with boardcom chip does appreciate your work | 01:08 |
| apachelogger | and we all know that stupid B company has far too many chips in the market | 01:08 |
| mhb | yeah, well | 01:08 |
| nixternal | Riddell: any reason you left karm out of the kdepim package? | 01:08 |
| mhb | whenever I go to a local Ubuntu meeting I keep listening to people that complain about Kubuntu | 01:08 |
| mhb | that doesn't help much either | 01:09 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 01:09 |
| apachelogger | very true | 01:09 |
| apachelogger | but IMO there is only one solution, make kubuntu better | 01:09 |
| mhb | or just give up | 01:09 |
| apachelogger | well | 01:09 |
| apachelogger | giving up doesn't satisfy all that much | 01:09 |
| mhb | Hobbsee did that, no wonder | 01:09 |
| nixternal | ahh, Riddell nevermind, ktimetracker replaces karm | 01:10 |
| Riddell | nixternal: it's been replaced, don't know why it's still there | 01:10 |
| apachelogger | mhb: http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2008/06/something-i-always-wanted-to-blog-about.html | 01:12 |
| mhb | I've read that. | 01:12 |
| mhb | it always goes way down to personal issues | 01:13 |
| mhb | had I been really happy at the moment, I would actually not mind people noticing what I do here | 01:13 |
| mhb | people not noticing | 01:13 |
| mhb | but being really alone at this moment, I feel that I should impress people in order for them to like me and me not feeling alone anymore - and unfortunately, doing any Kubuntu coding is not going to make people notice me | 01:15 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: what do we do about that? | 01:17 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: flashhug mhb like they did Daniel at UDS ;-) | 01:17 |
| mhb | there's nobody among these ten million people that actually knows what I'm doing for Kubuntu | 01:18 |
| Nightrose | mhb: I am very sure you got a wrong impression there | 01:18 |
| * Nightrose hugs mhb | 01:18 | |
| mhb | in the end most of the people around me tell me phrases like "get away from the computer more often, do normal things" | 01:19 |
| mhb | hinting that I only waste time | 01:19 |
| Nightrose | which is generally a good thing (TM) | 01:19 |
| ryanakca | mhb: I get that too | 01:19 |
| Nightrose | cause once you feel more balanced and relaxed you can focus again on things you like at kubuntu | 01:19 |
| mhb | right, if that ever happens | 01:20 |
| Nightrose | it will | 01:20 |
| mhb | I'm not seeing that coming in the next two years. | 01:20 |
| Riddell | time for bed | 01:22 |
| * Riddell hugs mhb | 01:22 | |
| mhb | anyway, good night | 01:22 |
| * yuriy turns on the penguins | 01:22 | |
| Nightrose | good night Riddell | 01:22 |
| Nightrose | nini mhb | 01:22 |
| mhb | see you soon | 01:22 |
| yuriy | nixternal: could you help me with the 4.0.5 packaging? | 01:29 |
| yuriy | i'm here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16996/ | 01:29 |
| Riddell | yuriy: those all look fine to ignore | 01:30 |
| yuriy | what do they mean? | 01:30 |
| Riddell | all_languages isn't wanted | 01:30 |
| Riddell | the rest are manpages which aren't too important, you can add them if you want | 01:30 |
| Riddell | cmake-modules-styleguide.txt is documentation, so same as the manpages | 01:30 |
| yuriy | isn't wanted? does that mean that warning is good? | 01:31 |
| Riddell | see debian/not-installed | 01:31 |
| yuriy | ah I see, the man pages are there too | 01:32 |
| Riddell | which also tells me the manpages are installed by kdelibs5-data.manpages, so no problems there | 01:32 |
| Riddell | so, you're sorted | 01:32 |
| Riddell | install the .debs | 01:32 |
| yuriy | so just the cmake styleguide which is not important? | 01:32 |
| Riddell | yep | 01:33 |
| Riddell | check that a KDE 4 app still works | 01:33 |
| Riddell | debuild -S | 01:33 |
| yuriy | so install the debs, test, (it should be compatible with 4.0.4) ok will do | 01:33 |
| yuriy | then what do i need to send and where? | 01:33 |
| Riddell | then add kubuntu-updates-testing to ~/.dput.cf | 01:33 |
| Riddell | http://paste.ubuntu.com/17044/ | 01:34 |
| yuriy | oh is that what that team is for? is this going to be like a proposed for backports? | 01:34 |
| Riddell | yes | 01:34 |
| Riddell | I can move it to backports once it has compiled in that PPA | 01:34 |
| Riddell | debuild -S -sa you need | 01:35 |
| Riddell | that makes a foo_source.changes file with the three files that need to be uploaded | 01:35 |
| Riddell | dput kubuntu-updates-testing foo_source.changes | 01:35 |
| Riddell | and you're done | 01:35 |
| yuriy | what is -sa? | 01:35 |
| yuriy | coulnd't find it in man debuild | 01:36 |
| Riddell | source always, it makes it includes the .orig file in the upload | 01:36 |
| yuriy | ah | 01:36 |
| Riddell | needed for uploading new upstream versions | 01:36 |
| yuriy | so first i need to bunzip/rename/gzip the original source? | 01:36 |
| Riddell | yes | 01:36 |
| Riddell | make it kde4libs_4.0.80.orig.tar.gz | 01:37 |
| yuriy | hmm? 4.0.5 | 01:37 |
| Riddell | oh, yes | 01:37 |
| Riddell | well spotted :) | 01:37 |
| Riddell | make sure your changelog entry says "hardy" in the distro bit | 01:37 |
| yuriy | not hardy-backports? | 01:38 |
| Riddell | check the .changes file before dput'ing it, make sure it lists all three files (.diff.gz, .orig, .dsc) | 01:38 |
| Riddell | no, just hardy for the ppa | 01:38 |
| * Riddell really sleeps | 01:39 | |
| yuriy | night Riddell | 01:40 |
| * Nightrose snoozes | 01:42 | |
| JontheEchidna | nosrednaekim: Do you know where to put the files for the python plasmoid example to install them? | 01:44 |
| ScottK | Someone tell awen I uploaded kde-guidance when you see him. | 01:44 |
| nosrednaekim | JontheEchidna: can't you just do "add applet" from plasma and point it to the .desktop? | 01:45 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, I haven't tried that | 01:45 |
| JontheEchidna | so I don't have to put the .py or the .desktop anywhere special? | 01:45 |
| JontheEchidna | So I go to the "Add Widgets" dialog and chose "Install New Widgets -> from file" | 01:48 |
| JontheEchidna | the desktop file doesn't show up in the file dialog | 01:48 |
| * JontheEchidna thinks he's doing it wrong | 01:49 | |
| nosrednaekim | hum | 01:50 |
| nosrednaekim | do you have the python bindings installed? | 01:50 |
| JontheEchidna | which package is that? | 01:51 |
| nosrednaekim | I don't think it was built actually:P | 01:52 |
| JontheEchidna | whee | 01:52 |
| nosrednaekim | it would be python-kde4 | 01:52 |
| nosrednaekim | I think | 01:52 |
| JontheEchidna | oh, it does exist | 01:53 |
| JontheEchidna | will it matter if python-kde4 is only at 4.0.3? | 01:53 |
| nosrednaekim | yes... it will | 01:53 |
| JontheEchidna | frack | 01:53 |
| nosrednaekim | since that never got plasmoid support anyway | 01:53 |
| JontheEchidna | So is python-kde4 an official part of kde/ if so what module does it reside in? | 01:55 |
| JontheEchidna | o, it's PyKDE4 | 01:56 |
| nosrednaekim | kdebindings | 01:56 |
| JontheEchidna | thanks, I suppose I'll download the source and build that | 01:56 |
| JontheEchidna | gah, I hate it how xarchiver always segfaults on tar.gz/bz2 files | 01:59 |
| JontheEchidna | now isn't that lovely, ark goes and dumps all the files into a single fscking directory | 02:02 |
| nosrednaekim | :P | 02:03 |
| yuriy | JontheEchidna: tar xzf/xjf, then fix ark | 02:08 |
| ScottK | Would someone please teach kdelibs5-dev to not stomp on kdelibs4-dev's files? | 02:11 |
| JontheEchidna | yuriy: Thanks for the tip | 02:16 |
| JontheEchidna | why must all these archive managers be so bullshitty? :( | 02:16 |
| daskreech | prefer cows? | 02:18 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 02:20 |
| jjesse_ | silly VM | 02:20 |
| yuriy | crap I was working off the wrong version for kdelibs | 02:21 |
| yuriy | ok i'm confused, I made a ~hardy3 which I thought went into backports, but apt-get source from my mirror gets me ~hardy2 and packages.ubuntu.com says it's at ~hardy1 | 02:24 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjeses | ||
| === jjeses is now known as jjesse | ||
| yuriy | !info kde4libs hardy-backports | 02:24 |
| ubottu | Package kde4libs does not exist in hardy | 02:24 |
| yuriy | !info kde4libs-bin hardy-backports | 02:24 |
| ubottu | kde4libs-bin (source: kde4libs): binaries for all the KDE 4 core applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu5.2 (hardy), package size 367 kB, installed size 1332 kB | 02:25 |
| JontheEchidna | Any way to tell cmake that I don't care to build the mono and php bindings? | 02:31 |
| * JontheEchidna is having trouble getting cmake to detect his php installation | 02:32 | |
| ScottK | Riddell, nixternal, and anyone else packaging KDE4 for Intrepid: I'm about to upload a fixed kde4libs. Please don't lose the change in your next uploads ... | 02:36 |
| JontheEchidna | ah, just remove it from the cmakelist | 02:38 |
| jjesse | go detroit redwings | 02:40 |
| jjesse | nixternal: you ender a tornado watch? | 02:48 |
| nixternal | not that I know of | 02:49 |
| nixternal | wouldn't doubt it...it is hot and muggy here | 02:49 |
| nixternal | thanks ScottK! | 02:49 |
| jjesse | southwest michigan is | 02:49 |
| ScottK | nixternal: It was providing a file twice and broke awen's KDE Guidance upload. | 02:50 |
| nixternal | which file? | 02:50 |
| ScottK | /usr/man/man1/makekdewidgets1.tar.gz | 02:50 |
| ScottK | It is in -dev and -data | 02:51 |
| ScottK | plus or mins a share dir in there somewhere | 02:51 |
| nixternal | hey, leave my man page alone! | 02:52 |
| nixternal | I created that a long time ago :P | 02:52 |
| JontheEchidna | I was thinkin', maybe we should run a few desktop screenshots through screenie for the Intrepid changelogs/release announcments | 02:57 |
| JontheEchidna | http://flickr.com/photos/ariyahidayat/2545790007/sizes/o/ | 02:58 |
| jjesse | was that the one for speedcrunch? | 03:01 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah | 03:01 |
| JontheEchidna | http://ariya.blogspot.com/2008/06/creating-fancy-screenshots-with.html | 03:01 |
| yuriy | santiago-ve: spaces in the url? (just something I've tried that didn't work) | 03:21 |
| yuriy | 30 seconds left | 03:42 |
| yuriy | seele: aww | 03:42 |
| * jjesse is watching the red wings (NOT LIVE) | 03:47 | |
| yuriy | so close there at the end | 03:48 |
| jjesse | don't tell me anything | 03:48 |
| yuriy | oh | 03:48 |
| jjesse | i will beat you | 03:48 |
| yuriy | how is it not live? recorded? | 03:49 |
| jjesse | yes w/ my dvr | 03:49 |
| jjesse | i don't watch live tv | 03:49 |
| jjesse | i watch it all through my dvr | 03:49 |
| jjesse | so i can skip commercials | 03:49 |
| yuriy | i can't see that working well for sports | 03:50 |
| jjesse | it works great for sports | 03:50 |
| jjesse | i just pause it, let the tv get 15-20 minutes ahead and then watch and skip commericals | 03:50 |
| santiago-ve | yuriy, well i checked it again... and fixed my face parameter | 03:51 |
| santiago-ve | lets see if it works | 03:51 |
| jjesse | yay done | 03:51 |
| jjesse | red wings win | 03:51 |
| jjesse | holy crap that was close | 03:51 |
| nixternal | ScottK: do you know brandonperry at all? works on the ClamAV Live CD | 03:54 |
| ScottK | nixternal: No. | 03:54 |
| daskreech | jjesse: they only have 15 Minutes of comercials for the entire thing? | 03:55 |
| nixternal | k, just wondering because he is going for membership right now and I ntoiced his clamav work | 03:55 |
| jjesse | daskreech: no i just pause the game, and while i watch it continues to record | 03:55 |
| jjesse | i usually get cuaght up somewhere through the game | 03:55 |
| yuriy | great ending | 04:01 |
| yuriy | kind of sad they lost by the goalie sitting on the puck though | 04:01 |
| ScottK | kde4libs is uploaded. | 04:01 |
| * ScottK first KDE4 upload | 04:02 | |
| jjesse | yuriy: by what goolie sitting on the puck? they almost tied it by seconds | 04:02 |
| yuriy | jjesse: Detroit's 3rd goal, Fleury thought he had it but he didn't and sat on the puck and pushed it in | 04:03 |
| jjesse | yuriy: oh you mean that goal | 04:03 |
| jjesse | yes i agree with you on that | 04:03 |
| seele | yuriy: i can't feel too bad, detroit is the better team | 04:03 |
| yuriy | hmm is it a big deal that I forgot to do -9 for gzip for packages? | 04:04 |
| yuriy | seele: true | 04:04 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Would you please grab my kde4libs package for intrepid and see if it builds on your amd64? | 04:13 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Just seeing if it gets all the depends and starts building is all I need to know. | 04:13 |
| nixternal | will do | 04:14 |
| nixternal | link me to the .dsc | 04:14 |
| ScottK | nixternal: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/kde4libs/4:4.0.80-0ubuntu4/+files/kde4libs_4.0.80-0ubuntu4.dsc | 04:16 |
| yuriy | nixternal: is it a big deal that I forgot to do -9 for gzip for packages? | 04:16 |
| nixternal | anyone from kubuntu/ubuntu -de in here that knows hacktick at all? if so, he could use some support | 04:17 |
| * ScottK would guess -de is sleeping | 04:18 | |
| nixternal | ya | 04:20 |
| santiago-ve | heh | 04:29 |
| yuriy | nixternal: cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp//usr/lib/kde4/include/KDE/Plasma/GLApplet': No such file or directory | 04:49 |
| yuriy | when running debuild | 04:49 |
| yuriy | does that mean some file is not there anymore and I need to change a rule? | 04:49 |
| ScottK | yuriy: Yes. | 04:50 |
| yuriy | delete that line from debian/libplasma-dev.install? | 04:52 |
| ScottK | No. Figure out where GLApplet went. | 04:54 |
| nixternal | yuriy: do you have the libqt4-opengl-dev installed? | 04:55 |
| nixternal | that could be why it isn't there because the opengl headers weren't install | 04:55 |
| yuriy | ah, that I don't | 04:56 |
| yuriy | should it not be a build-dep then? | 04:56 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Did kde4libs work for you? | 04:58 |
| nixternal | still building | 05:03 |
| yuriy | hmm can't install libqt4-opengl-dev | 05:06 |
| yuriy | I think there are still some issues left over with the 4.4 upgrade | 05:07 |
| yuriy | though it might just be my mirror | 05:07 |
| yuriy | ah, yes, going to archive. gets me a bunch of updates | 05:08 |
| * DASkreech <3 kget | 05:39 | |
| nixternal | ScottK: built! | 05:41 |
| * ScottK hands nixternal http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15028399/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.kde4libs_4%3A4.0.80-0ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz and asks why? | 05:43 | |
| * nixternal looks | 05:43 | |
| nixternal | hrmm | 05:44 |
| nixternal | !info libsoprano-dev intrepid | 05:44 |
| ubottu | libsoprano-dev (source: soprano): development files for the Soprano RDF framework. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.98-1ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 102 kB, installed size 1136 kB | 05:44 |
| nixternal | !info libsoprano4 intrepid | 05:44 |
| ubottu | libsoprano4 (source: soprano): libraries for the Soprano RDF framework. In component main, is extra. Version 2.0.98-1ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 476 kB, installed size 1492 kB | 05:44 |
| nixternal | ScottK: is it just amd64? | 05:45 |
| ScottK | nixternal: It's all but i386 and lpia | 05:46 |
| ScottK | For the same reason | 05:46 |
| nixternal | wow, and there is no lpia soprano package built | 05:46 |
| nixternal | just amd64 and i386 | 05:46 |
| * ScottK needs to head to bed ... | 05:48 | |
| yuriy | nixternal: ok it built, should I add libqt4-opengl-dev as a build-dep? | 05:53 |
| yuriy | nixternal: also, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/17100/ | 05:53 |
| yuriy | there is no debian/not-installed on this one | 05:54 |
| nixternal | ooh | 05:57 |
| nixternal | looks like they added a bunch to kdm | 05:57 |
| nixternal | add the kdm stuff to kdm-kde4.install | 05:57 |
| nixternal | actually | 05:58 |
| nixternal | check kdm-kde4.install and make sure there is no usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/* or such | 05:58 |
| nixternal | I think that will trip the --list-missing stuff | 05:58 |
| yuriy | ther isn't, but there's a #don't install, but link the oxygen version in .links - usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/pics/kdelogo.png | 06:01 |
| yuriy | so that explains one line | 06:01 |
| harolddong | dolphin crashes on right click in the 4.0.80 packages for me. If I right on an actual file I get a menu and its fine but if I right click on nothing within the file manager just to get a menu it crashes | 06:03 |
| harolddong | just putting it out there as it were | 06:04 |
| yuriy | hmm I don't see that stuff in the source | 06:05 |
| skreech | yuriy: crash_here() | 06:06 |
| yuriy | skreech: heh. but talking about packaging something ^^ | 06:07 |
| skreech | :-) | 06:10 |
| skreech | nixternal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd | 06:13 |
| skreech | Nice release date | 06:13 |
| yuriy | ah, kcontrol/kdm/background/patterns/ | 06:13 |
| skreech | seele would probably like the logo too | 06:13 |
| nixternal | skreech: explain? | 06:13 |
| skreech | nixternal: Lookit the release date for HURD | 06:13 |
| skreech | nixternal: bah I'm an idgit | 06:14 |
| nixternal | harolddong: dolphin isn't crashing for me... | 06:14 |
| skreech | I just saw Release: days ago | 06:14 |
| nixternal | haha, I saw that too | 06:14 |
| skreech | not realising it's two lines | 06:14 |
| nixternal | word wrap caught ya :) | 06:14 |
| nixternal | umf umf umf | 06:15 |
| skreech | Yeah we were trying to explain to a whippersnapper that WINE isn't an emulator | 06:15 |
| * nixternal loves the glass theme for kde 4.1 | 06:15 | |
| skreech | since ... WINE is not an emulator | 06:15 |
| skreech | finally clicked that the W in WINE stood for WINE | 06:15 |
| skreech | didn't grasp it but it clicked | 06:16 |
| skreech | so we fed him that link | 06:16 |
| skreech | should be fun watching him sort out mutal recursion | 06:16 |
| yuriy | nixternal: so do i need to add those directories somewhere? | 06:16 |
| hads | heh | 06:16 |
| harolddong | am I supposed to have the new default plasma theme that's in all the new kde 4.1 beta pics if I'm using the current beta packages? Becasue I still have the old default theme | 06:16 |
| nixternal | yuriy: if they need to be installed, then yes | 06:17 |
| yuriy | if they need to be installed? | 06:17 |
| skreech | wth | 06:17 |
| skreech | okular can't open ODF? | 06:17 |
| nixternal | yuriy: you are talking the files in that pastebin right? | 06:18 |
| yuriy | nixternal: yes. turns out they are in kcontrol | 06:19 |
| nixternal | so they are already being installed? | 06:19 |
| yuriy | but they are not installed by anything and are supposed to end up in kdm.. | 06:19 |
| yuriy | I don't think so | 06:19 |
| yuriy | cd debian; grep patterns * turns up nothing | 06:20 |
| nixternal | ya, those are all new files... apt-file searching for them shows nothing, so they more than likely need to get installed | 06:20 |
| nixternal | I would say kdm/programs/* goes under kdm-kde4.install | 06:20 |
| yuriy | and kdm/patterns*? | 06:21 |
| nixternal | and find out which package the includes falls under | 06:21 |
| nixternal | yes, patterns too | 06:21 |
| nixternal | sorry | 06:21 |
| yuriy | and do I just add the directories to the .install file? | 06:21 |
| yuriy | sorry for the noob questions | 06:21 |
| nixternal | yuriy: that isn't n00b homeskillet :) | 06:21 |
| nixternal | add the lines like this in kdm-kde4.install | 06:21 |
| nixternal | usr/lib/kde4/share/kde4/apps/kdm/patterns/flowers.png | 06:22 |
| nixternal | one for each | 06:22 |
| nixternal | Riddell: kde 4.1 beta 1 complete except for extragear...if I am up to it, I will complete those tomorrow | 06:25 |
| skreech | nixternal: You are owed beer | 06:26 |
| Jucato | nixternal: thought you already gave up on those? | 06:26 |
| nixternal | never! | 06:27 |
| nixternal | they are sweetness | 06:27 |
| Jucato | hehe | 06:27 |
| Jucato | I thought you learned your lesson :) | 06:27 |
| skreech | Jukato: how are you? | 06:28 |
| yuriy | ok building again | 06:29 |
| yuriy | i think that means it's time to sleep | 06:29 |
| Jucato | skreech: feeling nixternal | 06:29 |
| Jucato | er.. vista | 06:29 |
| Jucato | er.. bloated/full | 06:29 |
| skreech | Ha ha ha ha ha ha | 06:29 |
| manchicken | What's the KDE SIP client? | 06:34 |
| skreech | Kopete? | 06:38 |
| * skreech shrugs | 06:38 | |
| nixternal | yuriy: if you need some help tomorrow, I can lend a hand while kde 4.1 beta 1 extragear builds | 06:42 |
| nixternal | manchicken: Twinkle | 06:42 |
| nixternal | or KPhone | 06:42 |
| nixternal | but Twinkle is better | 06:42 |
| manchicken | Cool. | 06:43 |
| skreech | twinkle? | 06:45 |
| skreech | is that in KDEnetwork ? | 06:45 |
| nixternal | no, it isn't a KDE app, it is a 3rd party KDE/Qt app | 06:46 |
| nixternal | I used it for the UDS' in the past | 06:46 |
| skreech | Ah ok :-) | 06:46 |
| skreech | KDE? | 06:46 |
| skreech | or it has variants? | 06:46 |
| nixternal | sudo apt-get install twinkle | 06:47 |
| nixternal | !info twinkle | 06:47 |
| ubottu | twinkle (source: twinkle): Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) SIP Phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1-2build2 (hardy), package size 1584 kB, installed size 4636 kB | 06:47 |
| nixternal | !sip | 06:47 |
| ubottu | Factoid sip not found | 06:47 |
| nixternal | rock on, 4.1 runnin' and rockin' here | 07:21 |
| nixternal | lovin' it | 07:21 |
| Jucato | indeed | 07:26 |
| skreech | nixternal: Pssst | 07:26 |
| skreech | Slip me some 4.2 | 07:26 |
| Jucato | nixternal: don't mind the Pssst guy | 07:26 |
| Jucato | he should learn how to address royalty properly | 07:27 |
| nixternal | hahha | 07:27 |
| nixternal | pwnd | 07:27 |
| skreech | Hey | 07:28 |
| skreech | I didn't say kthnxbai | 07:28 |
| Jucato | :D | 07:29 |
| Jucato | uh oh... | 07:29 |
| Jucato | I let my gmail "unread" grow again... | 07:29 |
| Jucato | I wish kmail would "mark as read" :( | 07:29 |
| * skreech is hating on Kmail a bit | 07:29 | |
| * Jucato too | 07:30 | |
| skreech | course I have deep hate for all Mail clients | 07:30 |
| skreech | but .... kontact is just so sweet :( | 07:30 |
| Jucato | hahah! you think? | 07:31 |
| Jucato | nixternal: not sure if it was caught in 4.0.80... but in my latest SVN of kdepim4... the menubar goes like this: File Settings Help Edit View... | 07:31 |
| Jucato | in Kontact I mean | 07:32 |
| skreech | Jucato: bug it | 07:33 |
| skreech | RIght now I'm doing bug stuff for 4.1 pure | 07:33 |
| Jucato | skreech: I doubt that it's not already known ) | 07:33 |
| Jucato | :) | 07:33 |
| skreech | Jucato: You'd be mighty surprised | 07:33 |
| skreech | small things fall through | 07:33 |
| skreech | Esp in projects like Kontact or koffice | 07:34 |
| Jucato | I don't think that could be considered "small" :) | 07:34 |
| skreech | and kopete | 07:34 |
| skreech | *sighs* | 07:34 |
| Jucato | specially when Settings -> Configure ____ doesn't work at all :) | 07:34 |
| skreech | they have more pressing bugs to put time into | 07:34 |
| skreech | Didn't get that far :) | 07:34 |
| skreech | I couldn't get Kmail to send any mail | 07:34 |
| Jucato | kopete is probably swimming in a sea of bug-like critters :) | 07:34 |
| skreech | so that was kinda annoying | 07:34 |
| Jucato | settings.. check your shettings :) | 07:35 |
| skreech | Yeah but I'm trying to get JJ stuff highlighted | 07:35 |
| * Jucato just sent mail a few hours ago... smtp.google.com of course | 07:35 | |
| skreech | ok once 4.1 is out I think I'll do one more 4.0 release then jump to Intrepid and start focusing on Kubuntu bugs instead of KDE bugs | 07:39 |
| \sh | nixternal, rocker... | 08:09 |
| nixternal | yo yo | 08:12 |
| nixternal | trying to figure out all of the little overwrite issues now | 08:12 |
| nixternal | yay that's fun | 08:12 |
| flaccid__ | i had a few as well. can't remember which | 08:12 |
| \sh | nixternal, overwrite issues? | 08:13 |
| flaccid__ | pkg conflicts i guess you can say | 08:13 |
| flaccid__ | correct me for the right term please :) | 08:13 |
| nixternal | ya, there are still some minor issues with dpkg and stuff being moved around between 4.0.x and 4.1 | 08:14 |
| nixternal | easy fixes | 08:14 |
| nixternal | flaccid__: I would say you are spot on :) | 08:14 |
| flaccid__ | ah cool hehe. i don't know the terms very well in pakaging i just do whats needed to solve the issues hehe | 08:14 |
| flaccid__ | w0a 2x hehe looks a bit ghey ^ | 08:15 |
| Serega | hi there | 08:30 |
| Nightrose | nixternal: i still can't install kdf-kde4 since it wants to install /usr/lib/kde4/bin kwikdisk which is also in package kwikdisk-kde4 | 08:55 |
| Nightrose | known problem? | 08:55 |
| nixternal | yes ma'am | 08:55 |
| Nightrose | ;-) ok great | 08:55 |
| nixternal | I have that jotted down on a note card and will fix it first thing in the morning | 08:56 |
| Nightrose | awesome | 08:56 |
| nixternal | you know how to dpkg --force-overwrite it right? | 08:56 |
| Nightrose | hmm yea I could do that... | 08:56 |
| Nightrose | or just wait for you to fix it properly ;-) | 08:56 |
| nixternal | bum :) | 08:56 |
| emonkey | *g* | 09:04 |
| nixternal | g'nite everyone! | 09:13 |
| Nightrose | g'night nixternal | 09:18 |
| Nightrose | sleep well | 09:18 |
| * etretyak reads ubuntu-meeting logs.. Congrats Nightrose on double membership (Kubuntu member and Kubuntu council) ;-) | 09:24 | |
| \sh | ok..now for building kde4 on an eight core machine | 09:37 |
| Nightrose | ;-) thank you etretyak | 09:38 |
| Riddell | nixternal: rock | 10:24 |
| === pgquiles__ is now known as pgquiles | ||
| apachelogger | \sh: poser :P | 11:02 |
| apachelogger | krecipes merged | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | knetfilter uploaded | 11:03 |
| \sh | apachelogger, bah... | 11:03 |
| \sh | apachelogger, 8 cores + sbuild + libqt == CRASH BOOM BANG | 11:03 |
| apachelogger | Serega: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/knetfilter thanks for your contribution | 11:04 |
| apachelogger | \sh: hrrhrr | 11:04 |
| Serega | apachelogger: awoooga!!! Thank you! | 11:04 |
| * Serega cannot believe it understand merging | 11:04 | |
| Serega | s/it/he :) | 11:04 |
| Serega | apachelogger: Harald, and what "Raise Standards-Version" does mean? | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | Serega: debian/control includes a line: Standards-Version: x.y.z | 11:06 |
| apachelogger | which states the debian policy this package is compatible with | 11:06 |
| Serega | apachelogger: ah, okay. but how did you realized that we should raise it? by studying debian ploicy? | 11:07 |
| Serega | *policy | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | Serega: one way or another ;-) | 11:08 |
| apachelogger | lintian complained about it being too old, and since the package doesn't include anything which is conflicting with the current version... | 11:09 |
| Riddell | who was the kubuntu-de.org dude that wanted to announce 4.1 packages? | 11:11 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: emu probably | 11:11 |
| \sh | Riddell, whenever you have the time to check why libqt is not building with make -j9 ;) please tell me | 11:12 |
| apachelogger | hm | 11:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what do I do if po files differ from debian and ubuntu version, without being mentioned in the changelog? | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | use the debian versions? | 11:17 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yes (unless the ubuntu ones look better) | 11:17 |
| Riddell | \sh: because you only have 8 cores? | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: I don't speak pl that well ;-) | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | ah, apparently debian has more po files | 11:18 |
| * Serega can estimate Russian and Unkrainian translations if needed | 11:19 | |
| \sh | Riddell, no because libqt make system just failes | 11:20 |
| \sh | trying with -j4 | 11:26 |
| Riddell | nixternal: you're a genius, 4.1 beta packages seem to be working well | 11:29 |
| \sh | Riddell, you could have stayed much longer ,-) | 11:32 |
| emonkey | :) | 11:32 |
| apachelogger | right | 11:35 |
| \sh | ok -j4 is working | 11:36 |
| apachelogger | kpowersave merged | 11:36 |
| \sh | no it does not work :( | 11:37 |
| apachelogger | \sh: #qt | 11:38 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: yay! | 11:39 |
| \sh | NIXTERNAL | 11:52 |
| \sh | apachelogger, please try to compile libqt from kubuntu-members-kde4 ppa pretty please | 11:53 |
| apachelogger | kxgenerator merged as well | 11:53 |
| apachelogger | \sh: did the nixmaster break something? | 11:56 |
| \sh | apachelogger, even with -j1 it breaks the build | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | cool | 11:56 |
| \sh | and I can't be that stupid ... because I compiled libqt yesterday on my system (qt-copy that is ;)) | 11:56 |
| apachelogger | \sh: why exactly does it break, btw? | 11:56 |
| \sh | wait...I'll pastbin the log | 11:57 |
| \sh | apachelogger, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17185/ | 11:58 |
| apachelogger | that error looks familiar | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | \sh: tried googling for it? | 11:59 |
| \sh | apachelogger, how did it build on the buildds ? | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 12:00 |
| apachelogger | maybe nixternal cheated | 12:00 |
| \sh | apachelogger, and I have a very updated sbuild on this machine for hardy... | 12:01 |
| flaccid__ | i have an interesting question. my ghost on irc here is coming up from process flaccid 12262 0.0 3.6 228368 38140 ? Ss 01:11 1:10 /usr/lib/kde4/bin/konqueror http://factoryjoe.com/blog it seems. thats weird hmm | 12:01 |
| flaccid__ | see check this in netstat -tap: tcp 480495 0 lister.dev.xhost.:57638 kubrick.freenode.n:8001 ESTABLISHED 12262/konqueror | 12:03 |
| Riddell | that makes no sense, unless you have an irc connection in your web browser | 12:05 |
| flaccid__ | im pretty confused on that. the ghost is from konversation and this is the only konv going | 12:05 |
| flaccid__ | yep, it totally doesn't make sense! | 12:05 |
| flaccid__ | the ghost is not reponding to ctcp or ping however | 12:06 |
| flaccid__ | also konqueror is always asking me to recover session at it was apparently lost | 12:07 |
| flaccid__ | that could be quite unrelated | 12:07 |
| flaccid__ | Riddell: see that. i just closed konqueror and thats what happened! | 12:11 |
| flaccid__ | wtf.. | 12:11 |
| Riddell | flaccid__: crazy | 12:20 |
| Riddell | yuriy, nixternal: uploading kdebase-kde4 kdebase-workspace kdepimlibs 4.0.5 to kubuntu-updates-testing | 12:20 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: hmm? | 12:25 |
| Hobbsee | mhb: what did i do? | 12:25 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.1beta1.php <- "thanks for nixternal" should probably be "thanks to nixternal" | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | we are certainly also thankful for nixternal | 12:43 |
| Hobbsee | are we? why? | 12:43 |
| * Hobbsee thought we were *not* thankful for nixternal at all, due to his vista-loving ways, and his constant attempts to turn kubuntu into vista. | 12:44 | |
| Hobbsee | !visternal | 12:44 |
| ubottu | Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! | 12:44 |
| emonkey | lol | 12:49 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: fixed | 12:50 |
| \sh | apachelogger, -j1 works now... | 12:51 |
| \sh | bah | 12:52 |
| apachelogger | meh | 12:52 |
| * apachelogger stops building | 12:52 | |
| flaccid__ | !osxternal | 12:52 |
| ubottu | Factoid osxternal not found | 12:52 |
| flaccid__ | haha | 12:52 |
| * apachelogger wobbles his suse vm | 12:55 | |
| * flaccid__ continues to wonder how konqueror and konversation made love and glued together | 13:00 | |
| \sh | now my kde4 is totally broken | 13:01 |
| * Hobbsee so won't answer that one... | 13:01 | |
| === davmor2 is now known as davmor2_dinner | ||
| \sh | libplasma2 not installable..because of this the whole kdebase bunch | 13:02 |
| \sh | not installable too | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | lol | 13:02 |
| apachelogger | good job | 13:02 |
| \sh | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT | 13:03 |
| \sh | you need backports enabled to upgrade to ppa kde4 packages | 13:03 |
| \sh | wth | 13:03 |
| flaccid__ | you do? | 13:04 |
| \sh | Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 4:4.0.80-0ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa12 [430kB] | 13:04 |
| \sh | Get:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-backports/universe libqt4-webkit 4.4.0-1ubuntu5~hardy1 [3266kB] | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | Oo | 13:04 |
| \sh | this is utterly wrong if you want my opinion | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | well | 13:04 |
| apachelogger | \sh: wouldn't it use the libqt4-webkit built in the ppa? | 13:05 |
| \sh | apachelogger, aehm...is there one? | 13:05 |
| \sh | apachelogger, if so, it doesn't work | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | should be | 13:05 |
| \sh | apachelogger, I used the backport packages to upgrade from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4... | 13:05 |
| apachelogger | how did workspace link against webkit otherwise? | 13:05 |
| \sh | and I commented it in afterwards | 13:05 |
| \sh | 4.4.0-1ubuntu5~hardy1~ppa1 | 13:06 |
| \sh | that's why | 13:06 |
| \sh | 4.4.0-1ubuntu5~hardy1~ppa1 is less then 4.4.0-1ubuntu5~hardy1 | 13:07 |
| \sh | that's why people like me with backports enabled are fcked | 13:07 |
| \sh | if they only use it once | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | ++ | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | though | 13:07 |
| apachelogger | \sh: why? | 13:08 |
| \sh | apachelogger, again...the version in the ppa is less then the version in backports | 13:08 |
| \sh | 4.0.4 comes with backports, so people are adding the deb line | 13:08 |
| \sh | after that, they are commenting them out | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | yes, but where is the problem? | 13:08 |
| flaccid__ | oh i disabled backports and such to upgrade because of this. i also removed and then reinstalled a few pkgs | 13:09 |
| \sh | apachelogger, i actually don't know...it should catch them from ppa..but it doesn't... | 13:09 |
| \sh | kde4-kate will be held back | 13:09 |
| \sh | kdebase foo bar...also, because libplasma2 et all and webkit | 13:10 |
| \sh | it's messy | 13:10 |
| \sh | ah | 13:10 |
| apachelogger | if I had a hardy at hand I would test it :| | 13:10 |
| \sh | all ppa packages depends on the ~ppa1 packages with Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21), libqt4-network (= 4.4.0-1ubuntu5~hardy1~ppa1), libqtcore4 (= 4.4.0-1ubuntu5~hardy1~ppa1) | 13:10 |
| \sh | but somehow it doesn't catch up with it really | 13:11 |
| \sh | hmm.. | 13:12 |
| \sh | ok..hardy has officially libqt 4.3 something, right? | 13:12 |
| \sh | backports had 4.4.x | 13:12 |
| \sh | ppa needs 4.4.x | 13:12 |
| \sh | backports version is greater then ppa version | 13:12 |
| \sh | so it waits for the backports version... | 13:12 |
| \sh | and doesn't use the ppa version..which is ok | 13:12 |
| \sh | but where is startkde? | 13:13 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I uploaded a new kde4libs last night that ended up building on a depressingly few archs (i386 and lpia) for reasons that aren't clear to me. nixternal was able to build locally on AMD64 (I think using pbuilder). Would you please have a look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15028399/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-amd64.kde4libs_4%3A4.0.80-0ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 13:14 |
| flaccid__ | does the livecd mount available filesystems on your local disks automatically and if so, what does that? | 13:15 |
| ScottK | flaccid__: No. It doesn't. | 13:15 |
| flaccid__ | people claim it does they must be wrong | 13:16 |
| ScottK | You can mount them yourself in the usual ways. | 13:16 |
| * \sh switches | 13:16 | |
| flaccid__ | i've got two people saying it does | 13:16 |
| flaccid__ | they must be talking about hal | 13:16 |
| flaccid__ | nw | 13:16 |
| meta | Hi all | 13:23 |
| meta | Does i remember well, that the kubuntu livecd mounts automatically every local harddrives? | 13:23 |
| ScottK | No. | 13:24 |
| \sh | ah jetzt ja... | 13:24 |
| \sh | hmm..does anyone know what to do to get my menu icons back? I have it again, that all menu icons in the k menu are missing, but not the application ones...and I don't know where the damn cache for those icons is | 13:25 |
| meta | \sh: i recommend you to ask this in #kubuntu, but i think you removed that applets... you can add applets with rightclick on kicker(the panel) | 13:28 |
| meta | ScottK: thanks:( | 13:28 |
| meta | bye all | 13:28 |
| \sh | meta, I don't talk about applets | 13:28 |
| flaccid__ | he was a bit loco | 13:29 |
| jjesse | morning | 13:41 |
| bdgraue_ | http://bdgraue.de/files/kubuntu-de/akregator-view-feeds.png this is what i see in current akregator, i can't see the articles, i only can see how much new articles there are, but can't read them, is this my fault, did i miss something or is it a known "feature"? | 13:41 |
| Nightrose | \sh: you need to install a package - see kubuntu.org announcement | 13:41 |
| bdgraue_ | if it is a bug, do i have to report it here or at bugs.kde.org? | 13:42 |
| \sh | Nightrose, hmmm? | 13:42 |
| \sh | Nightrose, kde4beta is already running...but I told you my problem with the icons on three different desktops :) | 13:42 |
| ScottK | bdgraue_: What version are you running? | 13:42 |
| Nightrose | \sh: sorry - not kubuntu.org - it was in nixternals blog - one sec | 13:42 |
| Nightrose | \sh: http://blog.nixternal.com/2008.06.05/hardy-kde-41-beta-1-completed/ | 13:43 |
| bdgraue_ | ScottK: Akregator Version 1.2.50 Using KDE 4.00.80 (KDe 4.0.80 >= (KDE 4.1 Beta 1) 4:4.0.80-1ubuntu1~hardy1~ppa1 | 13:44 |
| \sh | Nightrose, ah now I get it | 13:45 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 13:45 |
| ScottK | \sh: Do can you replicate bdgraue_'s akregator problem? | 13:47 |
| \sh | ScottK, if he's missing a article list as seen on the screenshot, then no :) | 13:49 |
| ScottK | \sh: Thanks. | 13:49 |
| ScottK | bdgraue_: Please try creating a new user and see if the problem persists. | 13:49 |
| \sh | ScottK, but I completly deleted my .kde4/.kde/.kderc from $HOME | 13:49 |
| bdgraue_ | ScottK: i'll try and tell you the result | 13:51 |
| ScottK | OK | 13:51 |
| \sh | relog | 13:56 |
| bdgraue_ | ScottK: works very well with an new user | 13:57 |
| ScottK | bdgraue_: Then the trick is to look in .kde4 and see if you can find an akregator related difference between the two users. | 13:58 |
| bdgraue_ | ScottK: thx, i will do that | 13:58 |
| dru__ | hey guys... who would know a thing or two about adding the back track repositories to my kubuntu system .... i need a whole list of software to run against my hoome server here... | 13:59 |
| * Riddell eyes up flaccid__ | 14:01 | |
| Riddell | dru__: you can't install slackware packages on kubuntu | 14:01 |
| dru__ | that is affirmative | 14:01 |
| Riddell | ScottK: playing with chroots to work out that build issue | 14:01 |
| dru__ | but if i can get the packages i can convert them to deb no? | 14:01 |
| dru__ | or per source | 14:01 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Thanks. | 14:03 |
| dru__ | mostly its to get the packages at the moment and work on installing them here in kubuntu | 14:03 |
| dru__ | so as to beat the backtrack system :D | 14:03 |
| clau30 | dru__: there was a program to convert between different formats | 14:03 |
| * clau30 thinkks.. | 14:03 | |
| dru__ | i think its called alien | 14:04 |
| dru__ | or alen | 14:04 |
| clau30 | right! :) | 14:04 |
| clau30 | alien | 14:04 |
| dru__ | something like that | 14:04 |
| dru__ | thats somthing else | 14:04 |
| ScottK | It doesn't have a great history of producing safe and useful .deb packages. | 14:04 |
| dru__ | i was recently in the remote exploit room and found out that most of their packages are "lpm" or msi | 14:05 |
| dru__ | i think that there may be good source code in their repos | 14:05 |
| dru__ | so id like to start with that | 14:05 |
| dru__ | ...another option for the moment would be to "get" the network ubuntu repositories added to my source list | 14:06 |
| dru__ | i cant find them for all thats in me | 14:06 |
| dru__ | and they have no community | 14:06 |
| dru__ | so | 14:06 |
| dru__ | *dru will continue digging | 14:07 |
| ScottK | Riddell: python-kde3 needs libkonsolepart.so (current intrepid package has a dangling symlink to the kde3 one). Can in use the kde4 one or do we need the kde3 one back in Intrepid? | 14:08 |
| ScottK | in/it | 14:09 |
| Riddell | ScottK: what happened to the kde 3 one? | 14:10 |
| ScottK | It doesn't appear to exist in Intrepid anymore. At a guess the KDE 4.1 beta upload wiped it out. | 14:11 |
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| Riddell | ScottK: isn't there a patch in python-kde3 for that which can be removed? | 14:14 |
| * ScottK looks | 14:14 | |
| Riddell | kubuntu_03_konsole_setpty.dpatch | 14:15 |
| Riddell | but it may be that python-kde3 just needs the kde 3 version of kdebase | 14:15 |
| === dru__ is now known as drurew | ||
| Riddell | which has now gone, so python-kde3 would need to go too | 14:16 |
| ScottK | Except it still has rdepends. | 14:16 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Looking at the python-kde3 rdepends, it ought to be able to drop to Universe for Intrepid, but I don't think it can go. | 14:19 |
| Riddell | ScottK: that soprano install issue is because mysql failed to build on i386 | 14:26 |
| Riddell | but did on amd64 | 14:26 |
| ScottK | Riddell: So we just wait for it to sort itself out then? | 14:26 |
| ScottK | Or does soprano need something to work with the newer mysql when it arrives? | 14:27 |
| Riddell | just wait until mysql libs can install again | 14:27 |
| ScottK | OK. | 14:28 |
| ScottK | Riddell: What to do about python-kde3/kdebase? | 14:28 |
| Riddell | ScottK: there must be a way to stop pykde3 using libkonsolepart | 14:29 |
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| \sh | hmm? | 14:32 |
| \sh | if pykde3 has some Api mappings for konsolepart it will be quite difficult | 14:32 |
| ScottK | And it appears to. | 14:33 |
| ScottK | Riddell: If there is, it'll take someone who knows more than me to figure it out. | 14:34 |
| \sh | well, there are ways to cripple pykde3 to not build this...but I think this would give us a really bad standing | 14:34 |
| \sh | and upstream is not always amused when someone is crippeling the API or is changing it, to fix bugs ,-) | 14:34 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think we will need to ship some part of KDE3 kdebase. | 14:34 |
| \sh | ScottK, how much do we want to ship of kde3? | 14:37 |
| \sh | Mez, ping | 14:39 |
| coreymon77 | herrherr | 14:39 |
| coreymon77 | morning peoples | 14:39 |
| Mez | \sh ... pongish | 14:39 |
| \sh | Mez, why do you use CFLAGS=-g for xdebug? | 14:39 |
| \sh | Mez, is it something like advise from upstream? :) just asking | 14:40 |
| ScottK | \sh: As little as possible | 14:41 |
| \sh | ScottK, I meant in universe...I would like to see a fully armed kde3 desktop in universe :) | 14:41 |
| Mez | \sh, no, not advice from upstream.... er... I think it was from the other guys package... | 14:41 |
| ScottK | \sh: No you wouldn't. | 14:41 |
| \sh | Mez, so you could get rid of it in debian? :) | 14:42 |
| ScottK | \sh: Port Guidance displayconfig to use xrandr and then we'll talk. | 14:42 |
| Mez | \sh, I could do, but ... why? | 14:43 |
| \sh | ScottK, hmmm...point taken | 14:43 |
| \sh | Mez, well, I don't like debug symbols in a stable release ;) but I was wondering if it was something important or just a forgotten artefact :) | 14:44 |
| ScottK | \sh: For display management, we just barely managed to get to the finish line with Hardy in KDE3. For intrepid it'd just be worse. | 14:44 |
| Mez | \sh... possibly a bit of both. I'll have a word with derick though - there might be a reason for it | 14:45 |
| \sh | Mez, thx :) | 14:45 |
| nosrednaekim | ping Riddell | 14:56 |
| Riddell | hi nosrednaekim | 14:56 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: ok, what needs to be ported the most? guidance modules? | 14:57 |
| Riddell | dist upgrade tool would be lovely | 14:57 |
| Riddell | shouldn't be too hard either | 14:57 |
| nosrednaekim | ah... true :) | 14:57 |
| ScottK | nosrednaekim: Not displayconfig. | 14:57 |
| nosrednaekim | ScottK: ^_^ | 14:57 |
| ScottK | displayconfig needs to die. | 14:58 |
| nosrednaekim | I was thinking mountconfig and power-manager | 14:58 |
| ScottK | IIRC power manager is done | 14:58 |
| Riddell | yes it is | 14:58 |
| Riddell | well | 14:58 |
| Riddell | it could do with having polling removed | 14:58 |
| nosrednaekim | oh... nice :) | 14:58 |
| Riddell | but I don't think it's worth it if the new c++/solid one is going to be usable soon | 14:59 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: does the upgrade manager use adept_batch? | 14:59 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: no | 14:59 |
| Riddell | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/update-manager top branch listed there | 14:59 |
| Riddell | in the DistUpgrade directory | 14:59 |
| nosrednaekim | ah... that should be fairly straightforward then, thanks. | 15:00 |
| yuriy | Riddell: ok, was almost done with kdebase-workspace | 15:00 |
| yuriy | hmm i guess i got 2 packages, and screwed those up a little | 15:00 |
| Riddell | yuriy: hmm? what did you screw up? | 15:01 |
| yuriy | Riddell: for kde4libs and kdebase-runtime I forgot the -9 for gzip, so is that a big deal, and how do I fix it now? | 15:01 |
| Riddell | it's not a big deal | 15:01 |
| Riddell | doubt anything will notice | 15:01 |
| yuriy | and for kde4libs I was working off ~hardy2 instead of ~hardy3 because my mirror is lagging and didn't notice until later | 15:01 |
| yuriy | ironically omitting my own patch | 15:01 |
| yuriy | so do i readd the patch to 4.0.5 and bump the version? or.. | 15:02 |
| Riddell | yuriy: what patch? | 15:02 |
| yuriy | the one for bug 218138 | 15:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 218138 in kde4libs "unable to launch atlantik in kde4" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/218138 | 15:03 |
| Riddell | aah | 15:04 |
| yuriy | you'd think I would have noticed since the correct version was elsewhere on my hard drive already :-\ | 15:04 |
| Riddell | well just add the patch into debian/patches/ and update debian/patches/series, dch -i to ~hardy3, debuild -S, dput | 15:04 |
| yuriy | er, to ~hardy2? | 15:04 |
| yuriy | is it a problem that the chnagelog then would skip 4.0.4~hardy3? | 15:05 |
| Riddell | current one is ~hardy1 so go with ~hardy2 | 15:05 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: just curious... is there any program/command to automatically port some qt3 to qt4? | 15:07 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: not for python | 15:08 |
| yuriy | nosrednaekim: there are scripts that will do some automatic replacements | 15:08 |
| yuriy | ..for c++ | 15:08 |
| nosrednaekim | ah ok.... fair enough :) | 15:09 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: but start with opening the .ui file in designer-qt4 | 15:09 |
| Riddell | it'll convert it to qt 4 | 15:09 |
| Riddell | make sure there's no Q3 classes in it, python doesn't work with them | 15:10 |
| a|wen | ScottK: thanks for sponsoring | 15:12 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: ok.... maybe I'm stupid... but where is the main KDE-ui controlling .py? | 15:30 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: ./dist-upgrade.py --frontend DistUpgradeViewKDE | 15:30 |
| nosrednaekim | ah.. there we go... thanks | 15:35 |
| a|wen | Riddell: I'm making an SRU for kde-guidance ... what do you want me to do with it? | 15:39 |
| Riddell | a|wen: attach the debdiff to the bug | 15:40 |
| Riddell | add a test case to the bug | 15:40 |
| Riddell | poke me into uploading it | 15:40 |
| Riddell | oh and get ScottK to check it over for sanity if he hasn't already | 15:40 |
| a|wen | Riddell: it will cover three different bug reports | 15:41 |
| Riddell | a|wen: pick your favourite one to attach to | 15:42 |
| a|wen | Riddell: okay .. i'll do that | 15:43 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: I assume you are going to want this to be a pykde4 application? because the 4.1 beta packages do not yet have the kdebindings compiled.... | 15:45 |
| \sh | Mez, did you ever tried to write a watch file against pecl.php.net? | 15:47 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: eventually it should be but if you don't have pykde set up currently pyqt is fine for now | 15:48 |
| \sh | http://pear.php.net/package/<package>/download /get/<package>-([\d.]+)\.tgz there it is | 15:51 |
| a|wen | Riddell: SRU req. attached to bug 82279 | 15:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 82279 in kde-guidance "displayconfig resolution change bug" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82279 | 15:54 |
| Mez | \sh nope | 15:58 |
| Mez | \sh, wouldnt be too hard though... | 15:59 |
| \sh | Mez, got it already :) see 4 lines above :) | 16:00 |
| Mez | ah ;) | 16:00 |
| Mez | That's pear, not pecl, but same thing | 16:00 |
| \sh | Mez, they are rewriting it to pear ... but yes | 16:01 |
| Mez | http://pecl.php.net/package/<package> /get/<package>-(.*)\.tgz | 16:01 |
| Mez | cause other wise it wont match | 16:01 |
| Mez | http://pecl.php.net/get/imagick-2.0.0RC1.tgz | 16:01 |
| \sh | Mez, btw...wanna push a new package to debian? | 16:07 |
| Mez | \sh, I'm not a Debian Developer yet... so it depends on what package | 16:09 |
| \sh | Mez, php-ssh2 , libssh2 binding for php | 16:10 |
| \sh | check wnpp now | 16:10 |
| \sh | bah | 16:11 |
| \sh | 28 may 2008 | 16:11 |
| Mez | ? | 16:11 |
| Mez | \sh - I dont see it in wnpp | 16:12 |
| \sh | php5-ssh2 | 16:12 |
| \sh | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=447487 | 16:12 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 447487 in wnpp "RFP: php5-ssh2 -- This package provides a module for SSH2 functions in PHP" [Wishlist,Open] | 16:12 |
| \sh | but the package do has the wrong patch | 16:12 |
| \sh | for newer libssh2 | 16:12 |
| Mez | \sh, you made a package? | 16:12 |
| \sh | No...one other guy...I just made it because I need it here in the company..and when I checked the last time (4 weeks ago) there wasn't any package | 16:13 |
| Mez | \sh, probs worth emailing him and talking bout it ? | 16:14 |
| Mez | and maybe co-maintaining it with him? | 16:14 |
| \sh | Mez, there is nothing to co-maintain about :) | 16:14 |
| Mez | ? | 16:14 |
| \sh | Mez, the guy forgot most of the stuff it needs to add it to php etc..not a nice package | 16:15 |
| \sh | oh btw... | 16:17 |
| \sh | seele, congrats | 16:17 |
| Mez | \sh, send me a copy of your package? and I'll poke the guy and francois | 16:17 |
| Mez | \sh, I'm more worried about Nightrose than about seele :) | 16:18 |
| * Mez hides from Nightrose | 16:18 | |
| \sh | Mez, why? | 16:18 |
| Mez | Nightrose is evil ;) | 16:18 |
| \sh | na | 16:19 |
| Mez | *chuckles* | 16:19 |
| * Nightrose stabs Mez | 16:19 | |
| Mez | see! | 16:19 |
| Nightrose | see how evil I am... :P | 16:19 |
| \sh | well, a good replacement for hobbsee ,-) | 16:19 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 16:19 |
| Nightrose | heh | 16:19 |
| * Nightrose thinks she will not really suffice as a replacement for Hobbsee | 16:19 | |
| Nightrose | but will try my best | 16:20 |
| Hobbsee | you can try, anyway | 16:20 |
| Mez | Remind me never ever ever ever to go into a room where Nightrose and Hobbsee both are | 16:20 |
| \sh | hmmm | 16:20 |
| Nightrose | rofl | 16:20 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 16:20 |
| nixternal | mornin' | 16:21 |
| Hobbsee | double trouble :) | 16:21 |
| Nightrose | morning nixternal | 16:21 |
| \sh | nixternal, har there he is | 16:21 |
| \sh | nixternal, would you like to make the ppa packages greater then the backport packages? ,-) | 16:21 |
| nixternal | \sh: such as? | 16:21 |
| * Mez has a terrible imagination | 16:21 | |
| nosrednaekim | good where-is-kde4-kdegraphics-morning nixternal ! | 16:21 |
| nixternal | forgot to upload it for some reason | 16:22 |
| * Mez can see himself lying on the floor in pool of blood with long pointy stick sticking out of him | 16:22 | |
| nixternal | looking at that now | 16:22 |
| \sh | nixternal, installing backport packages 4.0.4, disabling backports again, adding ppa line, installing 4.1beta -> fails because some qt packages in backports have a higher version number then the ppa ones | 16:22 |
| Mez | (or even 2) | 16:22 |
| Nightrose | folks give the poor nixternal a break... | 16:22 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 16:22 |
| Nightrose | he just woke up. | 16:22 |
| nixternal | \sh: were there recent qt updates in backports? | 16:22 |
| Nightrose | Mez: that sounds unhealthy | 16:23 |
| jjesse | wow its raining out hard | 16:23 |
| \sh | nixternal, yes | 16:23 |
| \sh | nixternal, at least they had the same version numbering but without the ~ppa1 ;) | 16:23 |
| \sh | nixternal, kdebase-something-foo wasn't installable, because of libplasma2 and libplasma wasn't installable because of missing libqt4-webkit-4.4.0-1ubuntufoo~hardy bla.. and that's in both repos...but backports as said is greater regarding the versioning ~hardy1 vs. ~hardy1~ppa1 so I had to readd backports to get the packages installed | 16:25 |
| \sh | ok..that was one foo and two blas too much -> smoking | 16:26 |
| nixternal | hehe | 16:27 |
| nixternal | that is weird, first time anybody reported that | 16:27 |
| \sh | nixternal, i think it happens only when you disabled backports after installing 4.0.4 | 16:27 |
| jcastro | Nightrose: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam | 16:28 |
| ScottK | a|wen and Riddell: I just gave a thumbs up on the guidance SRU. | 16:28 |
| jcastro | Nightrose: if you want to add amarok to the upstream list that would be great | 16:28 |
| Riddell | ScottK: groovy | 16:28 |
| Nightrose | jcastro: sure :) | 16:29 |
| a|wen | ScottK: nice :) | 16:29 |
| jcastro | Nightrose: then locos can fight over you. :D | 16:29 |
| Nightrose | haha | 16:29 |
| Nightrose | sounds good | 16:29 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I'm a bit tied up with $WORK the rest of the day, so if you could sponsor it .... | 16:29 |
| Riddell | ScottK: will do | 16:29 |
| a|wen | :) | 16:30 |
| jcastro | nixternal: Just to fill you in about our UDS talk. The idea is to get upstreams interested in the Global Bug Jam, and then allowing LoCo's to link up with a specific upstream (if they want) and concentrate on those specific bugs | 16:32 |
| jcastro | nixternal: so if ubuntu-chicago wants to do kubuntu-specific stuff then add it to the page! | 16:32 |
| Nightrose | jcastro: done | 16:33 |
| Hobbsee | jcastro! | 16:33 |
| santiago-ve | ryanakca: ping | 16:34 |
| nixternal | jcastro: rock, I am sure our group will probably concentrate on some different stuff | 16:34 |
| jcastro | Hobbsee!! | 16:35 |
| Hobbsee | jcastro: having fun? | 16:35 |
| jcastro | Hobbsee: now that UDS/FOSSCamp is over I can relax (a bit). :) | 16:35 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 16:36 |
| ScottK | jcastro: Did we have to call it "Bug Jam". It sounds like something I would get arrested for feeding to my kids. | 16:36 |
| * yuriy knows ubuntu-mass won't want to do kubuntu specific stuff :-\ | 16:36 | |
| jcastro | ScottK: I guess that depends on your kids. | 16:36 |
| Nightrose | Czessi: ^ kubuntu-de could do kubuntu stuff | 16:37 |
| nosrednaekim | ScottK: ^_^ | 16:37 |
| Nightrose | txwikinger: ^ | 16:37 |
| txwikinger | Nightrose: ? | 16:38 |
| Nightrose | txwikinger: bugjam for kubuntu-de | 16:38 |
| txwikinger | When? | 16:38 |
| santiago-ve | yuriy: depends... | 16:38 |
| Nightrose | txwikinger: whenever you want i think - ask jcastro | 16:39 |
| santiago-ve | effie_jayx for example... wants to help on kde like me... | 16:39 |
| santiago-ve | anbd he's a ubuntu guy | 16:39 |
| \sh | ah | 16:39 |
| \sh | Nightrose, btw...do we get official kubuntu locos? ;) | 16:39 |
| santiago-ve | Btw... i am on planet.ubuntu.com at last :D | 16:39 |
| Riddell | santiago-ve: yay, what was the problem? | 16:39 |
| Nightrose | \sh: ;-) | 16:40 |
| jjesse | yay seaLne | 16:40 |
| jjesse | doh | 16:40 |
| jjesse | sorry | 16:40 |
| jjesse | yay santiago-ve | 16:40 |
| Nightrose | wohoo santiago-ve | 16:40 |
| Riddell | doods https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay/Prep | 16:40 |
| nixternal | hehe | 16:41 |
| Riddell | nixternal just laughs! | 16:42 |
| Riddell | that can't be a good sign | 16:42 |
| nixternal | I laughed at doods actually :) | 16:43 |
| txwikinger | Nightrose: I am not sure if we are located close enough to each other to do that in such a way | 16:43 |
| * txwikinger can not travel to Germany for a BugJam | 16:44 | |
| * nosrednaekim is not prepared :) | 16:44 | |
| Nightrose | txwikinger: hmm good point - maybe the guys in berlin can do it | 16:44 |
| \sh | Nightrose, in karlsruhe are also a lot of folks...we just need to reach them | 16:44 |
| txwikinger | Yes, you could do that on a more city-focused way | 16:44 |
| Nightrose | \sh: kubuntu folks? besides you and me? | 16:45 |
| txwikinger | I may be able to get some people in Bham for a bugjam together | 16:45 |
| \sh | Nightrose, yes and also ubuntu folks... | 16:45 |
| \sh | anyways...time to leave the office... | 16:46 |
| Nightrose | hmm time to go shopping... | 16:46 |
| \sh | cu later... | 16:46 |
| Nightrose | rain doesn't seem to stop any time soon anyway | 16:46 |
| Nightrose | laters | 16:46 |
| Riddell | ooh, yuriy volunteers! | 16:46 |
| santiago-ve | Riddell: a bug... with my launchpad id (wich was 469) | 16:47 |
| santiago-ve | http://blog.santiago.zarate.net.ve/archives/21-Hello-Planet-Ubuntu!! | 16:47 |
| nosrednaekim | santiago-ve: let me guess, you can't have numbers? | 16:47 |
| santiago-ve | nosrednaekim: i can have numbers | 16:47 |
| santiago-ve | but lp or bzr complains with 'em | 16:48 |
| santiago-ve | so only numbers in lp's ids... shoulndt be allowed | 16:48 |
| yuriy | bleh, i tried recompressing kde4libs and now debdiff complains about it being the wrong size | 16:48 |
| yuriy | though debuild -S worked | 16:48 |
| Riddell | yuriy: you can't change the .orig once it has been uploaded, best to just keep it as it is | 16:49 |
| yuriy | Riddell: when can you change it? only if the upstream version changes? | 16:50 |
| Riddell | yuriy: yes, or you can reversion it to say kde4libs-4.0.5build1 say but I don't think it's a problem to leave it as it is | 16:50 |
| Riddell | nixternal: so was I right in thinking you were volunteering to do a getting involved talk? | 16:51 |
| nixternal | sure | 16:51 |
| Riddell | any volunteers for packaging and merging howto? | 16:51 |
| * Riddell eyes up apachelogger | 16:53 | |
| mornfall | Hrm. | 16:55 |
| * santiago-ve votes for Riddell LOL | 16:55 | |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: AH... it has a Q3Frame .... how do I get rid of that? | 16:56 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: you can try editing the .ui file by hand and chaning it to a QFrame, or make a new QFrame in designer and move the widgets into it | 16:56 |
| Riddell | delete the old one, rename the new one | 16:56 |
| nosrednaekim | ok | 16:57 |
| bobesponja | hi | 17:08 |
| bobesponja | I'm trying kde4.1 packages, works good but what's the kde3 app name that is used to modify brightness for laptops? | 17:09 |
| smarter | guidance-power-manager ? | 17:10 |
| bobesponja | smarter: thanks :) | 17:11 |
| bobesponja | smarter: my fn keys works again now that I launched guidance-power-manager :) | 17:11 |
| smarter | is there a port of knetworkmanager to kde4 hidden somewhere on the intarweb? | 17:17 |
| smarter | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/plasma/applets/networkmanager/ seems to be the answer :) | 17:20 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: hehe.... seems I have a GUI..... not to get a system that it will actually try to update :) | 17:22 |
| nosrednaekim | *now | 17:22 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: a good start | 17:23 |
| bobesponja | smarter: do you know if kde4.1 packages comes with the twitter applet? | 17:25 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: you said you could only do a talk on a weekend? | 17:25 |
| smarter | bobesponja: it doesn't | 17:25 |
| * santiago-ve runs away from the word twitter | 17:27 | |
| bobesponja | smarter: ok, do you know which package I need to download? | 17:27 |
| smarter | to get the twitter applet? | 17:27 |
| bobesponja | smarter: yep, and the rest of the applets I guess | 17:29 |
| smarter | I don't think they're packaged | 17:30 |
| nosrednaekim | did the method for pushing to branches change on launchpad? they use to have some ssh://username@launchpad stuff, but now its lp:archive/location | 17:30 |
| smarter | lp: is a shortcut | 17:31 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: yeah... thats right, i'm going to be working (without breaks pretty much) on the weekdays | 17:31 |
| bobesponja | smarter: I meant the tarball from the 4.1b release so I can compile it :) | 17:31 |
| smarter | http://kde.org I guess ;) | 17:32 |
| nosrednaekim | ok... so it tells me to do a launchpad-login which subsequently fails.... and yes, my keys are perfectly fine since I just did my planet-ubuntu push a couple days ago. | 17:32 |
| nosrednaekim | never mind... I think I figured it out | 17:34 |
| Riddell | hmm, I wonder how popular sunday evening would be | 17:41 |
| Riddell | that would make it sunday afternoon for the US | 17:41 |
| Riddell | seele: got a preferred time/day for tutorials day? | 17:41 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: itd have to be after 1:30 EST for me on sunday | 17:45 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: what's that in UTC? | 17:49 |
| nosrednaekim | 5:30 I guess | 17:51 |
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| Nightrose | jcastro: ;-) nice blog | 18:03 |
| Nightrose | thx | 18:03 |
| yuriy | is this about a particular sunday? | 18:05 |
| Riddell | 15th? | 18:10 |
| yuriy | actually, I don't think any weekend anytime soon works for me | 18:11 |
| nosrednaekim | two weeks? sounds good to me as long as we have python bindings to plasma by then | 18:11 |
| Riddell | darn well better do by then | 18:11 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: 15th is amarok bug day with the kde bug squad - so if you want apachelogger to do a tutorial it might get complicated... | 18:11 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: 4.1 beta 1 is enough for that? | 18:11 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: hmm | 18:12 |
| nosrednaekim | yeah, when nixternal packages the bindings | 18:12 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: but ask him - just wanted you to know | 18:12 |
| yuriy | uploading kde4libs | 18:24 |
| ScottK | yuriy: For which release? | 18:26 |
| yuriy | ScottK: 4.0.5 kubuntu-updates-testing ppa for hardy | 18:26 |
| ScottK | yuriy: OK. BTW, the bug I fixed in intrepid's 4.0.80 package last night applies to Hardy too. | 18:27 |
| DreadKnight | nixternal: hey | 18:28 |
| yuriy | ScottK: hardy's 4.0.80 or 4.0.4/5? | 18:28 |
| ScottK | yuriy: Both | 18:29 |
| nixternal | DreadKnight: yo | 18:32 |
| DreadKnight | nixternal: ktorrent-kde4 didn't got installed along with kubuntu-kde4-desktop | 18:34 |
| DreadKnight | (reinstalled kde4 1-2 days ago or so) | 18:35 |
| nixternal | I haven't packaged ktorrent-kde4 | 18:36 |
| yuriy | ScottK: well too late for that upload, but should I do the change in 4.0.5 and reupload? how about 4.0.3 (SRU?) | 18:36 |
| DreadKnight | oh... installed it manually and i noticed some issues with it (search engines drop down box missing) | 18:36 |
| yuriy | ScottK: debdiff? | 18:37 |
| nixternal | ScottK: makekdewidgets.1 isn't provided by kdelibs5-dev in the .80 packages I put in hardy ppa | 18:44 |
| ryanakca | santiago-ve: pong | 18:46 |
| \sh | nixternal, where does the "Debian" comes from in the kde4-kdm? | 18:47 |
| santiago-ve | ryanakca: what has happened with the website? i want to help there :D | 18:47 |
| nixternal | \sh: it isn't patched...I can fix that though in a bit | 18:49 |
| nixternal | my god this one dude from Chicago is annoying the hell out of me | 18:49 |
| \sh | nixternal, ah...the same with the keyboard layout...what needs to be done to get it straight I'll help out :) | 18:49 |
| bobesponja | nixternal: I get "-- Didn't find the KDE4 automoc" when I try to cmake KDE/kdeplasmoid, any idea what path I should add to make it work (i did install kde4sdk) | 18:50 |
| nixternal | sudo apt-get install automoc | 18:50 |
| nixternal | bobesponja: just so you know, it isn't going to build on the 4.1 beta 1 packages | 18:50 |
| * \sh has still his KDE/trunk svn ;) | 18:51 | |
| bobesponja | nixternal: ok thanks for automoc | 18:51 |
| bobesponja | nixternal: is there a way to check KDE/kdeplasmoid from the day 4.1 beta 1 was frozen? | 18:51 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Then it should be (and not -data) | 18:52 |
| ScottK | yuriy: Just keep it in mind for next time. | 18:53 |
| nosrednaekim | bobesponja: IIRC, there is a "tags" dir in the kdeSVN repo | 18:53 |
| bobesponja | nosrednaekim: thanks, http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.0.80/ kdeplasmoid doesn't seem to be there though, maybe if I check the one from two weeks ago it should be fine | 18:55 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: reading the log will give you the answer | 19:09 |
| mhb | Hobbsee: you gave up, which is what I am considering | 19:09 |
| ryanakca | santiago-ve: We're waiting for the sysadmins to install it | 19:13 |
| santiago-ve | ryanakca: keep me updated plx0r, i wanna halp with the website :p | 19:14 |
| ryanakca | santiago-ve: will do | 19:15 |
| * ryanakca debates adopting knmap in Debian | 19:18 | |
| * ScottK pushes ryanakca forward. | 19:21 | |
| * yuriy declares nixternal's blog our new bugtracker | 19:39 | |
| nosrednaekim | hehe | 19:39 |
| nixternal | yuriy: no doubt... | 20:13 |
| nixternal | hrmm, no kdepim-dev for kde4 | 20:20 |
| yuriy | Riddell: are you currently working on any 4.0.5 packages or can I grab whatever's not built already? | 20:39 |
| gribelu_ | shouldn't there be a gwenview-kde4 in kde 4.0.80? | 20:43 |
| gribelu_ | actually it's kdegraphics-kde4 that wasn't updated | 20:44 |
| yuriy | gribelu_: it failed to build | 20:44 |
| gribelu_ | ooh | 20:46 |
| gribelu_ | :| | 20:46 |
| nixternal | gribelu_: it is building | 20:46 |
| nixternal | it was in dep-wait | 20:47 |
| nixternal | but I forced the rebuilds to start shortly | 20:47 |
| gribelu_ | :D | 20:47 |
| gribelu_ | great news | 20:47 |
| nixternal | I have gwenview-kde4 btw | 20:47 |
| nixternal | it may have failed on lpia only, or possibly amd64 due to a kdelibs update | 20:47 |
| nixternal | also, I pushed extragear-plasma up as well | 20:48 |
| gribelu_ | i'm on 386 so i'll be fine hehe | 20:48 |
| nixternal | and just now pushed yakuake 2.9.3 | 20:48 |
| gribelu_ | heh.. i just got 2.9.2 | 20:48 |
| nixternal | ya, I did that last night, and today Sho_ release 2.9.3 :) | 20:48 |
| gribelu_ | great work though 4.1 seems be running/installing fine | 20:48 |
| gribelu_ | been running it for a few days now | 20:49 |
| nixternal | groovy | 20:49 |
| nixternal | I am going to update to either .81, or .82 depending on when that comes out | 20:49 |
| gribelu_ | should be easier now with all the dependencies fixed | 20:50 |
| nixternal | ya | 20:50 |
| gribelu_ | should be.. hehe.. in bold | 20:51 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: it's not like I have an open time slot for the talk ;-) | 20:56 |
| Riddell | yuriy: I'm not | 20:56 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: generally I am not a fan of IRC talks, but as I said yesterday - everything for the project :) | 20:56 |
| yuriy | Riddell: ok, working on kdegraphics | 20:58 |
| ryanakca | ScottK: hmmm... I think I'll take it :) | 20:58 |
| bobesponja | nixternal: if you could add KDE/kdeplasmoid to .81 or .82 that would be awsome :) | 21:09 |
| yuriy | err am I supposed to be bumping depends and build-depends versions? | 21:29 |
| yuriy | and soversions? | 21:31 |
| yuriy | Riddell ^ | 21:32 |
| nixternal | note to all, if the package you are building requires anything from include/syndication/*, make sure you build dep on libboost-dev :) | 21:36 |
| nixternal | otherwise you sit around and band your head :) | 21:36 |
| yuriy | nixternal: actually this is your and stdin's changelogs that i'm looking at, so.. | 21:38 |
| nixternal | I bump them just to be safe | 21:40 |
| nixternal | that way there if you upload kdebase and libs at the same time, you will build off of the latest | 21:40 |
| yuriy | nixternal: i'm working on kdegraphics and kdemultimedia, and already uploaded kdegraphics before noticing this | 21:41 |
| yuriy | nixternal: them == both soversions and builddepends? | 21:41 |
| nixternal | so versions only if they have been changed | 21:41 |
| nixternal | if build deps were say 4:4.0.4 and you are packaging 4:4.0.5, I will bump the old versio to the current 4:4.0.5 | 21:42 |
| yuriy | ok | 21:42 |
| yuriy | so say in kdemultimedia-kio-plugins-kde4.install there is a usr/lib/kde4/lib/libaudiocdplugins.so.4.0.4 | 21:43 |
| yuriy | how do I know if I need to change that? | 21:43 |
| Riddell | yuriy: no | 21:45 |
| yuriy | no to what? | 21:46 |
| Riddell | yuriy: it shouldn't need the build-depends changed, it should be bugfixes only compared to 4.0.4 | 21:46 |
| yuriy | oh, ok. and soversions? | 21:46 |
| Riddell | how do you mean? | 21:47 |
| Riddell | abi shouldn't change either | 21:47 |
| Riddell | so safe to leave as 4.0.4 or whatever it is | 21:47 |
| yuriy | so say in kdemultimedia-kio-plugins-kde4.install there is a usr/lib/kde4/lib/libaudiocdplugins.so.4.0.4 I don't need to change that? | 21:47 |
| Riddell | no, that's something for upstream to do | 21:48 |
| Serega | apachelogger: hey | 21:49 |
| Serega | apachelogger: can I pick the kbibtex to merge? | 21:50 |
| yuriy | dpkg-source: cannot represent change to doc/kscd/index.cache.bz2: binary file contents changed | 21:51 |
| yuriy | and 2 similar | 21:52 |
| Riddell | yuriy: rm doc/kscd/index.cache.bz2 | 21:53 |
| Riddell | something compiling in the wrong place I guess | 21:53 |
| yuriy | i haven't compiled anything yet, that's on debuild -S | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | Serega: sure | 21:54 |
| Riddell | something made that file, the error means it's not in the .orig tar | 21:54 |
| yuriy | Riddell: it is in kdemultimedia-kde4-4.0.4, and I don't think I did anything after extracting the tar that would've created anyfiles other than debian/ | 21:55 |
| Serega | I have found an issue in pykde4 - i18n function does not support multiple arguments | 21:55 |
| Serega | afraid it is even the sip issue :( | 21:55 |
| yuriy | ooh think i got it | 21:55 |
| yuriy | forgot to bump the version. gotta stop doing that | 21:56 |
| Arby | evening all, trying to test build ktorrent and the patches seems to be failing to apply http://paste.ubuntu.com/17311/ | 21:59 |
| Arby | any suggestions? | 21:59 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: I'm adopting knmap in Debian. Do you think I should include kubuntu_00_autoconf2.60.diff in the Debian package (looks like it's your patch :) )... The patch permits the package to use autoheader*2.6* and autoconf*2.6* | 22:00 |
| Serega | apachelogger: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kbibtex mentions intrepid but I can't really understand is merging needed or not. could you please help me with an explanation? | 22:02 |
| apachelogger | Serega: debian includes 2.1 we include 2.0 ... so yes merge is necessary | 22:04 |
| apachelogger | and intrepid is mentioned because the version for hardy was published in intrepid when intrepid development opened | 22:05 |
| Serega | apachelogger: aah, thank you! now it is clear for me | 22:06 |
| yuriy | Riddell: kdemultimedia-dbg-kde4 supposed to depend on kdelibs-dbg-kde4 and not kde4libs-dbg? | 22:09 |
| yuriy | i think I may have gotten this error before when trying to install it so I think that's a mistake | 22:10 |
| pgquiles | nixternal: ping | 22:13 |
| nixternal | pgquiles: pong | 22:19 |
| pgquiles | nixternal: are the kde 4.1 packages for hardy a port of the debian kde 4.1 packages or have you packaged them from scratch? :-? | 22:20 |
| Serega | apachelogger: looks like kbibtex can be just synced | 22:20 |
| nixternal | pgquiles: they are a mix of everything | 22:20 |
| Serega | apachelogger: 99% sure :) | 22:20 |
| nixternal | I pulled from places that had completed stuff | 22:20 |
| apachelogger | Serega: so will have to do a 1% check, huh? :P | 22:20 |
| * Serega hides his eyes | 22:21 | |
| Serega | :) | 22:21 |
| pgquiles | nixternal: ok. By reading your blog I got the impression you were packaging everything on your own :-) | 22:21 |
| Serega | apachelogger: okay, okay... 100% sure. sync it :) | 22:22 |
| * apachelogger revus mom patches | 22:23 | |
| nixternal | pgquiles: wouldn't make sense to package everything on my own if it is available | 22:23 |
| nixternal | I am one of those who do not reinvent the whell | 22:23 |
| nixternal | wheel | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | well | 22:23 |
| apachelogger | Serega: what about kubuntu_01_kdepot.patch ? | 22:23 |
| nixternal | what I did do was take a combination of stuff from both Intrepid and Debian and doctored the hell out of it to make it work on Hardy | 22:24 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: should we keep a merge just because of the kdepot patch? | 22:24 |
| pgquiles | nixternal: cool | 22:24 |
| nixternal | then there were packages that aren't in either intrepid or hardy that had to be packaged from scratch | 22:24 |
| nixternal | and I was packaging everything on my own :) everyone else here was working on different projects | 22:25 |
| Serega | apachelogger: where did you find that? | 22:25 |
| pgquiles | will you provide nightly builds of 4.1? | 22:25 |
| nixternal | heck no | 22:25 |
| nixternal | way to much work, and the nightlies aren't even working from kde's side | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | Serega: debdiff the current ubuntu package to the current debian package | 22:25 |
| apachelogger | also nice that jpatrick didn't mention it in the remaining changes from last merge -.- | 22:25 |
| * nixternal goes and mows the lawn in this 100 degree weather | 22:26 | |
| apachelogger | [report] kshutdown merge completed | 22:26 |
| * nixternal watches as kdebindings build chokes his machine | 22:27 | |
| Serega | apachelogger: even such debdiff does not contain 'kdepot' | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | diff -pruN 1.0.1-2/debian/patches/kubuntu_01_kdepot.patch 1.0.1-2ubuntu2/debian/patches/kubuntu_01_kdepot.patch | 22:28 |
| nixternal | while (grass >= inches(1.25)) nixternal->mow(); | 22:28 |
| apachelogger | hm | 22:28 |
| * apachelogger hands nixternal a cookie | 22:29 | |
| apachelogger | Serega: well, I think just go ahead with another package | 22:30 |
| seele | Riddell: of June or July? | 22:30 |
| Serega | 1.0.1? but kbibtex is 0.2.1 | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | hm | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | what am I looking then? | 22:31 |
| Serega | apachelogger: maybe we are talking about different packages? | 22:31 |
| Serega | :) | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | haha | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | we are | 22:31 |
| apachelogger | dood | 22:31 |
| * Serega whews | 22:31 | |
| * apachelogger notes that konsole needs a better way to show when tabs exceed the window length | 22:32 | |
| apachelogger | Serega: you're right | 22:33 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: please sync kbibtex | 22:33 |
| * Serega dances and and sings "merging, merging, merging, la-la-la" | 22:33 | |
| Serega | apachelogger: thanks for support | 22:34 |
| apachelogger | Serega: thanks for meging | 22:35 |
| Serega | kcemirror is mine? | 22:35 |
| Riddell | seele: June (if we're talking about tutorials day) | 22:36 |
| Serega | apachelogger: can I still ask you about this? do you have a time to answer? | 22:36 |
| seele | Riddell: week of the 15th or 22nd, but time of day would depend on which day it is | 22:37 |
| seele | basically any time i'm either not at a conference, in a meeting, or sleeping | 22:39 |
| Arby | can anybody suggest how to fix this http://paste.ubuntu.com/17319/ ? | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | omg | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | http://code.google.com/p/google-gadgets-for-linux/ | 22:40 |
| Arby | trying to build ktorrent and the patches don't want to apply | 22:40 |
| apachelogger | Serega: you certainly can, but I think kcemirror is not KDEware which makes me, as kde fanboy, less qualified ;-) | 22:40 |
| Serega | oh... I was confused by 'k' | 22:41 |
| Arby | apachelogger: ooo shiny :) | 22:41 |
| Serega | apachelogger: what about ketm? | 22:41 |
| Serega | god... it is last 'k'! | 22:41 |
| Serega | ah... kdmtheme | 22:42 |
| apachelogger | kdmtheme sounds good | 22:42 |
| apachelogger | Arby: I would agree if there wasn't plasma :P | 22:42 |
| * Serega attacks | 22:42 | |
| Arby | apachelogger: meh, I don't like stuff on my desktop anyway :) | 22:43 |
| * apachelogger tries compiling google-gadgets | 22:43 | |
| Arby | still looks pretty | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | configure: error: qt4, libxml2 or spidermonkey are missing, which are required for qt host. | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | omg | 22:43 |
| apachelogger | good thing that thing provides qt4 support at all :D | 22:43 |
| Riddell | seele: oh aye, I remember you saying you've got a busy schedule | 22:44 |
| Arby | Serega: I already attempted kdmtheme, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdmtheme/+bug/227912 for my efforts | 22:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 227912 in kdmtheme "merge kdmtheme 1.2.2-1 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Incomplete] | 22:44 |
| Arby | Serega: feel free to take over if you like | 22:45 |
| Arby | not my finest moment | 22:45 |
| Serega | Arby: I take this | 22:45 |
| apachelogger | ../../../ggadget/backoff.cc:65: error: 'rand' was not declared in this scope | 22:46 |
| apachelogger | nice | 22:46 |
| seele | Riddell: 1 hour right? about general usamajility or something in particular? | 22:46 |
| Serega | gOOgle missed include?) | 22:46 |
| Riddell | seele: yes | 22:46 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: kbibtex synced | 22:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: thank you | 22:47 |
| Riddell | yuriy: that dbg depend could well be a mistake | 22:50 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: does it compile without that patch? | 22:51 |
| Riddell | Serega: pykde4 i18n is much fixed in 4.0.5 and 4.1 svn | 22:51 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: Haven't checked yet, if it compiles without, drop it? | 22:52 |
| Riddell | Arby: ignore 97_fix_target_link_libraries.diff, it's not needed | 22:52 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: if it compiles without it in debian and ubuntu I guess it can be dropped, but there's probably a reason it was added there | 22:52 |
| Arby | Riddell: ok, just delete the patch? | 22:52 |
| Riddell | Arby: yes | 22:52 |
| Riddell | and remove from series | 22:52 |
| Serega | Riddell: whew, cool. So in near updates I will get a working one? | 22:52 |
| Arby | cool | 22:53 |
| Arby | one step closer | 22:53 |
| Riddell | Serega: yes | 22:53 |
| Serega | thanks | 22:53 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: *nods*... If ever you remember why you added it, please poke me :) | 22:53 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: probably because it wouldn't relibtoolise | 22:53 |
| Riddell | try make -f admin/Makefile.common too in debian and ubuntu | 22:54 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: aha, *** YOU'RE USING autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.61. *** KDE requires autoconf 2.52, 2.53 or 2.54 make: *** [cvs] Error 1 :) | 22:56 |
| Riddell | blamo | 22:56 |
| ryanakca | Thanks :D | 22:57 |
| Riddell | seele: so what's your schedule like on sunday 15th? | 22:58 |
| apachelogger | ah well, I give up, google-gadgets doesn't wanna compile | 23:01 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what's the licence? | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: apache | 23:02 |
| Riddell | oh, nice | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | well, if it was compiling... ;-) | 23:02 |
| apachelogger | it probably just doesn't like intrepid | 23:03 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: once Serega finished kdmtheme, we are done with merging for now :D | 23:04 |
| Riddell | surely there's more in main? | 23:04 |
| Riddell | basket | 23:04 |
| * apachelogger shudders | 23:04 | |
| Riddell | filelight | 23:05 |
| seele | Riddell: looks good to me, late UTC would be best | 23:05 |
| Riddell | kshutdown | 23:05 |
| apachelogger | kshutdown is in universe | 23:06 |
| apachelogger | and merged | 23:06 |
| Riddell | noteedit | 23:06 |
| Riddell | qtparted | 23:06 |
| Riddell | screenkast | 23:07 |
| Riddell | showimg | 23:07 |
| Riddell | that's all I can see for universe | 23:07 |
| * apachelogger jumps at filelight | 23:08 | |
| Riddell | qtstalker | 23:08 |
| Riddell | I wonder what that does | 23:08 |
| Serega | guys, in debian/copyright of debian package was changed email of an author. I should just copy change to debian/copyright of ubuntu, right? | 23:08 |
| Riddell | qsynth | 23:09 |
| Serega | *copy the change | 23:09 |
| Riddell | Serega: yes | 23:09 |
| Serega | thanks | 23:09 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: please sync filelight all my changes got applied in debian | 23:13 |
| Riddell | groovy | 23:13 |
| Riddell | seele: this too early? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay/Prep | 23:14 |
| Riddell | yuriy: how's that timing? | 23:14 |
| seele | Riddell: nope, that's fine | 23:14 |
| Riddell | nixternal: ? | 23:14 |
| Serega | aargh, diff of diff destructs my brains | 23:14 |
| Arby | ktorrent has me beat the error is http://paste.ubuntu.com/17319/ and the patch is http://paste.ubuntu.com/17329/ | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: please sync basket, kontact plugin version patch got applied in debian | 23:16 |
| Arby | I have no idea why it won't apply | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | uh that is fast :D | 23:16 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: screenkast as well, patch applied in debian | 23:19 |
| apachelogger | oh | 23:31 |
| apachelogger | -.- | 23:31 |
| Serega | apachelogger: please check: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1039875 | 23:31 |
| apachelogger | com'on | 23:31 |
| apachelogger | can't debian just create proper patch files :S | 23:32 |
| apachelogger | Serega: please use paste.ubuntu.com pastebin.ca is too slow for my fast working mind ;-) | 23:32 |
| Serega | apachelogger: okay. repast it now? | 23:35 |
| apachelogger | nah, for the next paste | 23:37 |
| apachelogger | it loaded in the meanwhile | 23:37 |
| * apachelogger declares qtparted the awfullest merge he ever did | 23:37 | |
| apachelogger | + * add the homepage link to the description in debian/control | 23:44 |
| apachelogger | Serega: that one got applied in debian | 23:44 |
| Serega | apachelogger: but not in description | 23:44 |
| Serega | so it was confused me | 23:44 |
| Serega | okay | 23:45 |
| apachelogger | oh | 23:45 |
| apachelogger | well | 23:45 |
| apachelogger | technically | 23:45 |
| apachelogger | if homepage is part of the source stanza | 23:45 |
| apachelogger | it shouldn't be in the description at all | 23:45 |
| Serega | ah... sec, I'll remove it now | 23:45 |
| apachelogger | Serega: nah | 23:45 |
| apachelogger | I'll do that | 23:45 |
| apachelogger | and upload right away | 23:45 |
| apachelogger | Serega: good job | 23:46 |
| * Serega blushes and bows | 23:46 | |
| Serega | apachelogger: thank you for you carefull teaching | 23:46 |
| Serega | *your | 23:46 |
| apachelogger | hehe, you're welcome | 23:47 |
| Riddell | erk, what did I miss? | 23:47 |
| apachelogger | nothing important | 23:47 |
| Serega | apachelogger: so, we continue to merge non-kde packages or it is better to return to gdebi-kde4? | 23:49 |
| apachelogger | Serega: Riddell listed some more above | 23:49 |
| apachelogger | you could continue with qtstalker | 23:49 |
| apachelogger | that name is just too interesting :D | 23:49 |
| Serega | apachelogger: haha, we competing with Riddell | 23:50 |
| Serega | 2 for 1 - not so fair | 23:50 |
| apachelogger | a) Riddell is a robot | 23:50 |
| apachelogger | b) he probably doesn't do merging | 23:51 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do we have a race going on here? | 23:51 |
| Riddell | merges are best at this time in the cycle, while there's still kde/qt-ish merges to be done | 23:51 |
| Serega | apachelogger: no, he add unmerged! | 23:51 |
| Serega | *adds | 23:51 |
| Serega | here is the competition: all merged or drawn in merges :) | 23:52 |
| * apachelogger is confused and continues breaking qtparted | 23:52 | |
| * Serega believes qtstalker is a qt port of S.T.A.L.K.E.R :) | 23:52 | |
| Riddell | there's all these to be merged too ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/4.0.80/src/extragear/ | 23:52 |
| Riddell | using the -kde4 packaging but dropping the -kde4 name | 23:53 |
| Riddell | don't do plasma though, that's going away | 23:53 |
| * Riddell snoozes | 23:53 | |
| seele | nixternal: hmm.. have you heard anyone have problems resizing windows in the 4.1 beta? | 23:54 |
| Serega | Riddell: nah, it's not fair! add merges one-by-one as we do merge :) | 23:54 |
| apachelogger | if my padawan wouldn't be lost I could make him merge all that boring stuff :| | 23:59 |
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