| asac | fta: what do i want? | 00:07 |
|---|---|---|
| fta | no template, but a hack with $0 | 00:08 |
| asac | fta: you certainly have found all those mail tweaks in bugzilla? | 00:08 |
| fta | it's just a patch that has been committed today, written by [reed] :) | 00:08 |
| asac | fta: The CC field changes | 00:09 |
| asac | doesnt work? | 00:09 |
| fta | eh? | 00:09 |
| [reed] | fta: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email | 00:09 |
| fta | hhmm, thanks | 00:10 |
| asac | fta: quite easy to find imo: preferences -> email preferences | 00:10 |
| fta | good. done | 00:13 |
| fta | g++ -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wcast-align -Wno-long-long -pedantic -g -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar -pthread -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -Os -freorder-blocks -fno-reorder-functions -fexceptions -Wno-unknown-pragmas -fPIC -shared -Wl,-z,defs -Wl,-h,libxpcomclucene.so -o libxpcomclucene.so flockLucene.o flockLuceneImp | 00:13 |
| fta | l.o flockLuceneThread.o flockLuceneModule.o -lpthread -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-rpath-link,../../../../dist/bin ../../../../dist/lib/libxpcomglue_s.a -L../../../../dist/bin -lxpcom -L/usr/lib -lplds4 -lplc4 -lnspr4 -lpthread -ldl /usr/lib/libclucene.a -Wl,--version-script -Wl,../../../../build/unix/gnu-ld-scripts/components-version-script -Wl,-Bsymbolic -ldl -lm | 00:13 |
| fta | /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/libclucene.a(FSDirectory.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC | 00:13 |
| fta | /usr/lib/libclucene.a: could not read symbols: Bad value | 00:13 |
| fta | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status | 00:13 |
| fta | make[8]: *** [libxpcomclucene.so] Error 1 | 00:13 |
| fta | damn amd64 | 00:13 |
| asac | fta: where is libclucene from? | 00:39 |
| asac | is that packaged? | 00:39 |
| fta | yzq | 00:39 |
| fta | yes | 00:39 |
| asac | why didn't i find it yet? | 00:40 |
| fta | --with-clucene-prefix=/usr and libclucene-dev | 00:40 |
| asac | i searched for lucense for C multiple times | 00:40 |
| asac | stupid me | 00:40 |
| asac | c++ ... ok | 00:41 |
| Hawkskater | hello | 01:10 |
| Hawkskater | so, hows firefox 3 coming? | 01:12 |
| asac | with v(MAX) | 01:14 |
| asac | :-P | 01:14 |
| asac | Hawkskater: are you running RC1 from hardy-proposed? | 01:18 |
| Hawkskater | no, im running 3 beta 5, i havent gotten around to installing the rc | 01:18 |
| asac | its simple. add hardy-proposed or the mozillateam PPA sources to sources.list | 01:20 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive | 01:20 |
| fta | asac, hardy/libclucene is broken: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15025765/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.flock_2.0%7Ea1%7Esvn20080603r19205-0ubuntu1%7Efta4%7Ehardy_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 01:20 |
| asac | but hardy-propopsed is more up to date | 01:20 |
| Hawkskater | asac thanks | 01:20 |
| asac | fta: do they ship any .o files by accident? | 01:21 |
| fta | who ? clucene or flock ? | 01:22 |
| asac | flock | 01:22 |
| fta | looking | 01:23 |
| fta | nope | 01:23 |
| fta | debian bug 460328 | 01:28 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 460328 in libclucene0 "x86_64 segfault bug reintroduced" [Unknown,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/460328 | 01:28 |
| Hawkskater | asac | 01:29 |
| asac | Hawkskater: yes. | 01:44 |
| asac | RC is better | 01:44 |
| Hawkskater | any great new features? | 01:44 |
| asac | but b5 wasnt really bad either. but as always there is no objective measure here what is really good | 01:45 |
| asac | Hawkskater: no ... feature work was done before beta even ;) | 01:45 |
| asac | polishing mostly | 01:45 |
| Hawkskater | oh, i might want to update | 01:45 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| === ]reed[ is now known as [reed] | ||
| MechtiIde | hello and good morning, I want to configure a calender/mail server using for less then ten users. Which software do you suggest and where can I find documentation to configure server _and_ client | 09:15 |
| MechtiIde | the client should be Thunderbird/lightning | 09:15 |
| asac | MechtiIde: you can configure a webdav server | 09:16 |
| asac | that should be enough | 09:16 |
| asac | for calendaring | 09:16 |
| asac | for mail you can used something independent | 09:16 |
| asac | whatever you prefer | 09:16 |
| asac | i assume you want an imap server | 09:16 |
| MechtiIde | asac, where do I find a HowTo or something similar? | 09:17 |
| asac | there are a bunch with different targetted audienced ... i cannot give a preference for servers | 09:17 |
| asac | MechtiIde: google "setup webdav apache" | 09:17 |
| asac | apt-cache search imap server | 09:17 |
| MechtiIde | and a WebDav dokumentation for User not for developer | 09:18 |
| asac | if you have a specific imap server google for "setup XXXSERVER ubuntu" | 09:18 |
| asac | MechtiIde: google like above | 09:18 |
| MechtiIde | thanks for the right words to look for | 09:19 |
| asac | MechtiIde: you can also seay "setup webdav apache ubuntu" | 09:21 |
| asac | :) | 09:21 |
| asac | thats the second hit: http://www.digital-arcanist.com/sanctum/article.php?story=20070427101250622 | 09:21 |
| asac | our wiki could deserve a page for WebDAV setup ... maybe summarize your experiences there for other users | 09:22 |
| asac | MechtiIde: ^^ | 09:22 |
| MechtiIde | I will describe it | 09:23 |
| MechtiIde | also for Debian/Lenny | 09:23 |
| armin76 | asac: bumb! | 09:27 |
| asac | dump | 09:28 |
| armin76 | bumb rc2! | 09:28 |
| asac | armin76: we already are far ahead ... RC2 is for the weak | 09:29 |
| armin76 | lol | 09:30 |
| asac | given that gentoo is not really the place to find the weak ... and given that you dont distribute with official marks ... how about always tracking trunnk in gentoo :) | 09:33 |
| asac | that would surely give you credits on fta side ;) | 09:33 |
| armin76 | haha | 09:34 |
| armin76 | no way :P | 09:34 |
| asac | bah, i stand corrected: gentoo is a place for the weak ;) | 09:34 |
| armin76 | i do other stuff more interesting than mozilla :P | 09:34 |
| asac | compiling X? | 09:34 |
| asac | :-D | 09:34 |
| asac | and OOO | 09:34 |
| asac | to test latest compiler tweaks | 09:34 |
| armin76 | lol | 09:35 |
| asac | -O666 -Wl,-DTHE_NUMBER_OF_THE_BEAST | 09:35 |
| armin76 | no, i do arch testing, something ubuntu and debian doesn't do :P | 09:35 |
| asac | yeah | 09:35 |
| asac | much appreciated | 09:35 |
| asac | debian has some QA though | 09:35 |
| asac | just depends on wheteher ther are users at all for lets say s390 desktop ;) | 09:35 |
| armin76 | and we aren't stuck with old kernels :P | 09:36 |
| asac | are we? | 09:37 |
| asac | is debian? | 09:37 |
| asac | did debian enter base freeze yet? | 09:37 |
| armin76 | Linux i2 2.6.26-rc4 #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 11:43:22 UTC 2008 ia64 31 GenuineIntel GNU/Linux *g* | 09:37 |
| armin76 | no idea | 09:37 |
| asac | thats for the weak for sure ;) ... you should be unning 2.7.0 | 09:39 |
| asac | hah, outdated ... latest is 2.6.26-rc5 | 09:39 |
| armin76 | its a dev box, i don't reboot it everyday :P | 09:40 |
| asac | haha | 09:40 |
| armin76 | but you don't have one! do you? | 09:41 |
| armin76 | fail! | 09:41 |
| asac | 2.7? sure ... i am a strong guy and spoof the version umber just to impress the world | 09:43 |
| armin76 | i mean a dev box :P | 09:48 |
| armin76 | gtg | 09:48 |
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| fta | my dev box is my desktop at home. an all-HEAD desktop :) | 09:49 |
| asac | fta: can you please to a maintainence change for the current intrepid mozilla-devscripts? | 09:50 |
| asac | all those things like mercurila should not be depends, but recommends | 09:50 |
| asac | let me know if you can do it ... otherwise ill fork out the release and do it as its now blocking intrepid biulds | 09:50 |
| asac | fta: do you track linux HEAD too? | 09:51 |
| asac | which branch? -mm ? | 09:51 |
| fta | not anymore, used to for years | 09:52 |
| asac | fta: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15053195/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.midbrowser_0.3.0rc1a-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 09:52 |
| asac | midbrowser fails because of devscripts | 09:53 |
| asac | mercurial should be available though ... not sure. but better drop the depends and make them recommends | 09:53 |
| asac | lower the risk of pulling something broken ;) | 09:53 |
| asac | fta: mercurial is in universe | 09:54 |
| fta | done | 09:54 |
| asac | fta: which branch is the stable update branch? | 09:56 |
| asac | i cant upload 0.09 ... i need a spin of for 0.08 | 09:56 |
| fta | even for intrepid ? | 09:56 |
| asac | yes | 09:56 |
| fta | why ? | 09:56 |
| asac | i need a fix now ... cant risk that something breaks | 09:57 |
| fta | well, the only change is mozclient, it's not automatically used by packages | 09:58 |
| asac | dont bother ... ill do it | 09:58 |
| fta | i've closed 0.09 already | 09:59 |
| asac | thats not a problem | 09:59 |
| fta | it is if you have no intention to push it | 10:00 |
| asac | ok i have done it ... look if you are happy like it is | 10:05 |
| fta | where ? | 10:06 |
| fta | well, 0.09 is not pushed so there's no point in starting 0.09.1, i'd better unclose 0.09 for now | 10:09 |
| fta | I need to run, i'll think about it | 10:09 |
| asac | fta: i dont think its a problem. you can close 0.09.1 ... didnt want to unclose | 10:09 |
| asac | but do as you wish | 10:09 |
| asac | ok i creatd .hardy branch ... will mark main branch as development and that as mature | 10:11 |
| asac | fta: if you undo the release, please do a full bzr merge https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/mozilla-devscripts/mozilla-devscripts.intrepid.0.08.1 | 10:12 |
| asac | so we can mark that branch as merged without loosing the ploaded commit | 10:12 |
| asac | once midbrowser is build we can upload 0.09 :) | 10:13 |
| asac | or 0.09.1 | 10:13 |
| armin76 | quick | 10:45 |
| asac | [reed]: so what kind of mechanism should we use in bugzilla to track ubuntu forwarded bugs? | 10:49 |
| asac | did we say keyword? ... or did we say "CC virtual user" ? | 10:50 |
| asac | did we come up with other options? | 10:50 |
| asac | bug 147119 | 10:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 147119 in network-manager "network manager gives couldn't activate dialup service warning" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147119 | 10:55 |
| armin76 | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052912 Firefox/3.0 <- interesting | 10:58 |
| armin76 | rc2 identifies itself as 3.0 | 10:58 |
| asac | armin76: rc1 too for me, no? | 10:58 |
| asac | at least in about ;) | 10:58 |
| armin76 | no idea | 10:59 |
| * armin76 checks | 10:59 | |
| armin76 | yup, you're right | 11:01 |
| armin76 | i didn't notice :D | 11:01 |
| asac | mozilla releases _real_ RCs ;) | 11:02 |
| asac | which isnt that bad | 11:02 |
| gnomefreak | this is odd | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | can anyone see me? | 11:06 |
| gnomefreak | it seems as if im still syncing | 11:06 |
| fta2 | yes | 11:07 |
| gnomefreak | fta2: thanks | 11:08 |
| gnomefreak | it seems as if the channels are syncing 5 at a time | 11:08 |
| armin76 | i can't | 11:08 |
| gnomefreak | did anyone open a bug on RC2 for the release? | 11:09 |
| gnomefreak | i havent checked mail to see when it will release yet | 11:09 |
| fta2 | rsn | 11:10 |
| gnomefreak | rsn? | 11:10 |
| armin76 | haha | 11:10 |
| armin76 | gnomefreak: ubuntu already has 3.0 final :) | 11:11 |
| gnomefreak | armin76: they ended up releasing RC1 as final? | 11:11 |
| armin76 | yeah! bad ubuntu *g* | 11:11 |
| armin76 | j/k | 11:11 |
| gnomefreak | armin76: there was a bug or 2 blocking | 11:11 |
| gnomefreak | armin76: are you just looking at the FF title bar or did you hear this from mozilla | 11:12 |
| armin76 | woot? | 11:13 |
| armin76 | rc2 is already released | 11:13 |
| gnomefreak | armin76: when was it released? yesterday? | 11:13 |
| armin76 | or today | 11:13 |
| armin76 | read mozilla.com :P | 11:13 |
| armin76 | err | 11:13 |
| armin76 | .org | 11:14 |
| gnomefreak | armin76: havent gotten that far yet and i will have it in email anyway | 11:14 |
| gnomefreak | who has pine + thunderbird + IMAP? | 11:15 |
| armin76 | This entry was posted by beltzner on Wednesday, June 4th, 2008 at 3:23 pm | 11:15 |
| * gnomefreak didnt think thunderbird read files from you ~/SHOME yet include them in TB folders | 11:15 | |
| gnomefreak | seems to me RC2 is borked | 11:16 |
| armin76 | lol | 11:16 |
| gnomefreak | This is bugging the hell outta me and I can't find a way to roll back | 11:17 |
| gnomefreak | to RC1. Any idea? | 11:17 |
| gnomefreak | gonna ask if its google tool bar causing that :) if i ever get TB to help me out | 11:18 |
| asac | gnomefreak: in what way is RC2 borked? | 11:26 |
| asac | important to figure out instead of rolling back | 11:26 |
| gnomefreak | asac: its looking like extensions the more i read it | 11:26 |
| gnomefreak | i posted comment asking about GTB | 11:26 |
| asac | GTB? | 11:26 |
| gnomefreak | GooleToolBar | 11:26 |
| asac | ah | 11:27 |
| asac | does that work at all? | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | asac: does thunberbird look for folders/mail from hard driver? like make folder in pine adn Tb will pick it up | 11:27 |
| gnomefreak | asac: AFAIK its still broken | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | las i heard Google only updated API for certain sites like gmail | 11:28 |
| asac | fta2: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15056277/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.midbrowser_0.3.0rc1a-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 11:28 |
| asac | still fails | 11:28 |
| gnomefreak | asac: see bug 122529 as i have neverheard of TB looking in ~/Mail for folders nor mail | 11:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 122529 in mozilla-thunderbird "Non-Thunderbird IMAP folders not visible to Thunderbird" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122529 | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | it was closed at one time but user reopened it | 11:30 |
| gnomefreak | be back smoke | 11:30 |
| asac | well ... you can use movemail | 11:31 |
| asac | then you can probalby specify that as the location | 11:31 |
| asac | maybe you can even set a custom location for Mail for certain accountgs | 11:32 |
| asac | fta2: i wonder if builds now require recommends too | 11:32 |
| asac | cant see which version was pulled in ... will retry in an hour | 11:32 |
| gnomefreak | is it possible to set TB2 to offline mode for incoming and online for outgoing? yes it saounds silly but very helpfull when you have ~2000 emails and more just keep coming in | 12:11 |
| asac | dont think so | 12:12 |
| asac | why? | 12:12 |
| asac | hmm | 12:13 |
| asac | you say a "stop the flood button" ? | 12:13 |
| gnomefreak | too many coming in while im working on sending email so it would same me the time to keep scrolling | 12:13 |
| gnomefreak | asac: yes :) | 12:13 |
| asac | hmm | 12:13 |
| gnomefreak | and what are the little orange "stars" or "circle" | 12:14 |
| asac | intersting approach ;) | 12:14 |
| gnomefreak | next to new mail | 12:14 |
| asac | why is that a problem? | 12:14 |
| asac | thunderbird should keep the currently selected mail active | 12:14 |
| gnomefreak | asac: time consumming to keep reading the email (its almost like) im looping without a breaking point | 12:14 |
| gnomefreak | it does but since i work from top to bottom of the list of mails and only comment on some the rest stay marked as unread until im done just incase i missed something | 12:16 |
| asac | gnomefreak: maybe sort by date? | 12:18 |
| asac | not by thread? | 12:18 |
| gnomefreak | hmmmmm | 12:18 |
| gnomefreak | i guess ill have to change how they are viewed | 12:19 |
| asac | i think you are right | 12:19 |
| asac | what one would want is going through mails by date, but still viewing thread | 12:19 |
| asac | e.g. you could manually go up and down single steps with cursor | 12:19 |
| asac | but the next mail button would go to next mail by date | 12:19 |
| asac | gnomefreak: maybe thats the case? | 12:20 |
| asac | you can hit 'j' to get to next mail | 12:20 |
| gnomefreak | yeh that about right. I just hate the fact that no matter what view its not helpful with that many emails. i wonder if someone has a extension for something like that :) | 12:24 |
| * gnomefreak has an idea | 12:25 | |
| gnomefreak | have all my outgoing comments ready to send than turn tb back online and send them :) | 12:25 |
| gnomefreak | asac: got another firefox/thunderbird should save files "****" bug 175286 | 13:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 175286 in mozilla-firefox "Feature request: save files read-only when invoking external viewers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175286 | 13:05 |
| asac | gnomefreak: thats fixed in hardy | 13:08 |
| asac | look at a changelog to infd the dupe | 13:08 |
| gnomefreak | k | 13:08 |
| gnomefreak | in FF3 or 2? | 13:08 |
| gnomefreak | asac: im not seeing it https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0 nor in firefox source package | 13:12 |
| asac | gnomefreak: no thats fixed in thunderb | 13:13 |
| asac | irdf | 13:13 |
| asac | firefox 3 has it fixed | 13:13 |
| asac | ffox 2 wontfix | 13:13 |
| gnomefreak | asac: firefox-3 fix was ours or upstreams? | 13:16 |
| gnomefreak | fucking thunderbird feature is broken cant send unsent mails after turning it back online | 13:17 |
| asac | gnomefreak: fffox 3 == fixed upstream | 13:18 |
| asac | tbird 2 == fixed here | 13:18 |
| asac | ffox 2 == wontfix | 13:18 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 13:18 |
| gnomefreak | i cant send mail in tb :( | 13:21 |
| gnomefreak | thats alot of replys that wont get sent | 13:21 |
| gnomefreak | bug 192888 | 13:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 192888 in libflashsupport "firefox crashes on flash contents when using libflashsupport" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192888 | 13:24 |
| asac | only 50 bugmails in fox3 folder left : | 13:27 |
| asac | ) | 13:27 |
| asac | [reed]: you think bug 236610 aspect was already discussed or even fixed? | 13:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 236610 in xulrunner-1.9 "Firefox 'bad certificate' warning blocks navigation with small secured frames" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236610 | 13:29 |
| asac | e.g. invalid cert in an iframe where the user cannot reach the "add exception ..." button? | 13:29 |
| asac | gnomefreak: can you confirm bug 236901 | 13:39 |
| asac | ? | 13:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 236901 in firefox-3.0 "privacy settings not followed when closing firefox by the 'file' menu" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236901 | 13:39 |
| asac | let me know | 13:39 |
| gnomefreak | k | 13:39 |
| gnomefreak | im thinking gmail has issues today | 13:39 |
| gnomefreak | file > close works fine asked me to delete personal info and loaded the bug page in tab | 13:42 |
| gnomefreak | andd it works fine using the X in upper right hand corner. I DONT SEE A RED X anywhere. maybe its a theme hes using? | 13:43 |
| * asac lunch | 13:45 | |
| gnomefreak | commented on bug | 13:45 |
| * gnomefreak heading to drs. appointment not sure how long i will be gone but once noon gets here <in about 3hours and 15 minutes | 13:47 | |
| armin76 | asac: 233610 sucks, tbh :P | 14:08 |
| armin76 | we'll miss the dialogs :( | 14:08 |
| asac | bug 233610 | 14:49 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 233610 in elisa "Text doesn't fit into the popup area" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/233610 | 14:49 |
| asac | mozilla bug 233610 | 14:49 |
| ubottu | Mozilla bug 233610 in Bugzilla-General "Modem Connection can not be deactivated" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233610 | 14:49 |
| asac | armin76: not sure what you mean | 14:49 |
| armin76 | asac: 236610 :P | 14:50 |
| asac | armin76: gentoo thing? | 14:52 |
| armin76 | bug 236610 | 14:52 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 236610 in xulrunner-1.9 "Firefox 'bad certificate' warning blocks navigation with small secured frames" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236610 | 14:52 |
| asac | bug folder all read | 15:04 |
| asac | 400 to go in ffox 2 folder :( | 15:25 |
| * Admiral_laptop is smooth... | 17:51 | |
| Admiral_laptop | I deleted everything in /usr/bin that I needed | 17:51 |
| Admiral_laptop | basically the whole core-utils package.. | 17:52 |
| Admiral_laptop | time to go fix it.. | 17:52 |
| Admiral_laptop | gah, wrong channel. | 17:52 |
| armin76 | fail | 17:56 |
| asac | ^^ was that ment for this channel :) ? | 18:15 |
| asac | oh he already noticed | 18:15 |
| asac | i should work on screens that have more than 10 lines ;) | 18:15 |
| campd | asac: what do you guys do with crash reporting/breakpad? | 19:25 |
| asac | campd: multiple options. | 19:40 |
| asac | campd: 1. send all stacktraces we currently have somewhere | 19:40 |
| asac | campd: 2. in future enable crashreporter and arrange with you so that you can properly analyze those crashes | 19:41 |
| asac | e.g. work how to get dbg symbols to you and so on | 19:41 |
| asac | campd: would you be willing to help us get things sorted on your side? | 19:43 |
| campd | I can find the right people to talk to :) | 19:46 |
| campd | do you just disable the crash reporter for now? | 19:46 |
| asac | campd: for now its disabled. we have our own distro solution, e.g. we get all crashes reported as bugs | 19:46 |
| campd | yeah | 19:46 |
| campd | cool, thanks | 19:46 |
| asac | but i want to change that ;) ... tell me what we need to do before we can able crashporter | 19:47 |
| asac | np | 19:47 |
| campd | asac: so basically what you'd need to do is send us symbols, and point the crash reporter at our crash reporting server | 19:51 |
| campd | asac: Ted Mielczarek can give you more detail about what you'd need to do | 19:52 |
| asac | campd: true. but what symbols ... how do you select the right ones? you probably need the symbols for all depends as well | 19:52 |
| campd | either ted.mielczarek@gmail.com or you can ask on dev-platform | 19:53 |
| asac | campd: yeah, i know him. i wanted to talk with him about it once in #breakpad, but then things got in between | 19:53 |
| asac | campd: whats your mozilla.com address? campd@moz.. ? | 19:54 |
| campd | dcamp@ | 19:54 |
| campd | asac: is the data generated by your crash reporter available publically anywhere? | 19:56 |
| asac | campd: its all in bugs. | 19:57 |
| asac | every crash is one bug. | 19:57 |
| campd | ah | 19:57 |
| asac | i can show you one | 19:57 |
| asac | there is a text file attachment that has the thread stack trace | 19:58 |
| campd | how is dup management handled? | 19:58 |
| asac | campd: if you can use those to inject them in your database i could arrange to send you all files in a batch | 19:58 |
| campd | I dunno how that'd work | 19:58 |
| asac | campd: we have a database running on the server that tries to match them. doesnt work that great for mozillas | 19:58 |
| asac | but in general it works | 19:58 |
| asac | still nothing as streamlined as breakpad | 19:59 |
| campd | cool | 19:59 |
| asac | campd: bug 188540 | 19:59 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 188540 in firefox-3.0 "firefox-3.0 crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188540 | 19:59 |
| asac | campd: ok i sent a starter mail to you and ted. | 20:08 |
| campd | asac: cool, thanks | 20:12 |
| asac | probably a bit confusing without context. hope that is ok for a start | 20:13 |
| campd | looks fine to me | 20:13 |
| asac | jcastro: thanks received the mail from sonbird folks and will answer that | 20:20 |
| asac | by tomorrow the answers should be there | 20:20 |
| asac | Jazzva: hey | 20:25 |
| Jazzva | asac: Here I am... | 20:26 |
| asac | Jazzva: howdy? | 20:26 |
| Jazzva | asac: Pretty good ... You? :) | 20:27 |
| asac | same same | 20:27 |
| asac | ;) | 20:27 |
| asac | Jazzva: how are your merges going for this cycle? | 20:27 |
| asac | wanna get you in ubuntu-dev ;) | 20:27 |
| Jazzva | asac: Not so good... have been lazy | 20:27 |
| * Jazzva is ashamed | 20:27 | |
| asac | hehe | 20:27 |
| Jazzva | asac: So far: liferea, ksimus, and... lemme check | 20:28 |
| asac | how can i motivate you? | 20:28 |
| asac | Jazzva: did i upload liferea yet? | 20:28 |
| asac | otherwise give me link ... ill do that now | 20:28 |
| Jazzva | asac: Nope :). | 20:28 |
| Jazzva | Ok, wait a second | 20:28 |
| Jazzva | asac: I have also been helping norsetto with gnome-mplayer and gecko-mediaplayer :) | 20:28 |
| asac | Jazzva: yeah ... i know. he asked me to sponsor them to debian | 20:29 |
| asac | which ill do | 20:29 |
| Jazzva | asac: liferea is bug 228827 | 20:29 |
| asac | at least i plan to | 20:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 228827 in liferea "Please merge liferea-1.4.15-1 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/228827 | 20:29 |
| Jazzva | And tracker. That's it so far... | 20:29 |
| asac | Jazzva: there is still no full debdiff :/ | 20:30 |
| asac | thought you said you attached that? | 20:30 |
| Jazzva | asac: Well, I think that should be the one without po | 20:30 |
| Jazzva | Every time I asked about po changes, I was told to remove them from the final debdiff... | 20:31 |
| Jazzva | Let me see on ubuntu-motu. | 20:31 |
| armin76 | asac: what about me! :P | 20:33 |
| Jazzva | asac: I'll try to find some merge to do it tonight. :) | 20:33 |
| asac | armin76: you? ... i thought you ----><---- that close from getting banned on all public irc networks:-P ... now you want to be a ubuntu-dev? | 20:34 |
| asac | hehe | 20:34 |
| armin76 | haha | 20:35 |
| armin76 | why would i get banned? :P | 20:35 |
| Jazzva | asac: There is the comment on #ubuntu-motu... Let me just check the changelog :). If there is no mention of those rare cases, I think the debdiff without-po is the final one... | 20:36 |
| asac | Jazzva: ok i am building and uploading | 20:37 |
| asac | i dont mind. | 20:37 |
| asac | just remember to follow up in case liferea gets regressions :) | 20:37 |
| Jazzva | Ok... I haven't seen any while I was messing around with it. | 20:38 |
| Jazzva | asac: How many votes would I need for ubuntu-dev? | 20:39 |
| asac | Jazzva: just consent i think. there is no absolute number | 20:44 |
| asac | Jazzva: if you have a few that would be good ... if you have noone against you thats even better ;) | 20:44 |
| asac | Jazzva: updating my subscriptions doesnt work | 20:45 |
| asac | i get (-) signs next to the subscription | 20:45 |
| Jazzva | asac: Well, you said you would give one. pochu mentioned he would be willing to say he was happy with those two merges, but that he doubts it wouldn't mind. And I might ask norsetto, if he would support me. I don't know if anyone else remembers me | 20:45 |
| Jazzva | asac: lemme run it | 20:45 |
| asac | hmm hostname could not be found | 20:47 |
| asac | whats gong on | 20:47 |
| Jazzva | asac: It works here... updates correctly | 20:48 |
| Jazzva | Dunno what's wrong | 20:48 |
| Jazzva | I'll test the debdiff again :/ | 20:49 |
| asac | yeah ... let me check | 20:49 |
| asac | i have a wierd feeling | 20:49 |
| asac | Jazzva: are you using xulrunner 1.9 rc1? | 20:49 |
| Jazzva | Yes | 20:50 |
| Jazzva | 1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 | 20:50 |
| Jazzva | That one | 20:50 |
| asac | works? | 20:50 |
| Jazzva | Let me build with the debdiff... | 20:50 |
| Jazzva | Just to see if everything is ok. | 20:50 |
| Jazzva | But with the deb I made, everything works. Updates the feeds. | 20:51 |
| asac | Jazzva: ok works here :-P | 20:51 |
| asac | proxy bustage | 20:51 |
| Jazzva | asac: Phew :) | 20:51 |
| asac | most likely in combination with the mobile xulrunner build i am using | 20:51 |
| asac | which has a patch to auto sync things from gconf | 20:51 |
| asac | and i tested with proxy yesterday :) | 20:51 |
| Jazzva | Ah... I see. | 20:52 |
| Jazzva | So, I haven't messed up (...yet)? :) | 20:52 |
| asac | Jazzva: ok. i think thats great | 20:54 |
| Jazzva | asac: ...regarding the votes. I don't know if anyone would be against me. Nobody complained to me directly. (which doesn't mean that nobody wont on voting) | 20:54 |
| Jazzva | *won't | 20:54 |
| asac | hehe | 20:56 |
| asac | sure | 20:56 |
| asac | i doubt there will be someone against you | 20:56 |
| asac | Jazzva: do we do carry a diff to debian that moves things to quilt? | 20:56 |
| Jazzva | asac: We switched to quilt, because Debian did that. And then I just remade the Ubuntu patches, to be for quilt | 20:58 |
| Jazzva | So, I suppose we don't... | 20:58 |
| asac | Jazzva: ok uploading | 21:00 |
| Jazzva | asac: Thanks :) | 21:01 |
| asac | thanks | 21:01 |
| asac | done | 21:01 |
| asac | Jazzva: have you tried to enable webkit? | 21:01 |
| Jazzva | asac: I didn't know we provide webkit :/. Now I see we do... I haven't tried that. | 21:02 |
| asac | Jazzva: would be a high profile task :) | 21:02 |
| asac | if that works well we have to move webkit to main i guess and doing that will cause some visibility for you ;) | 21:03 |
| Jazzva | asac: Ok, I'll try... But don't expect I'll succeed :) | 21:03 |
| asac | Jazzva: na ... should work | 21:03 |
| asac | maybe you need to update webkit to latest from debian | 21:03 |
| asac | but why now | 21:03 |
| Jazzva | Actually, I'll try it right now :) | 21:03 |
| asac | not | 21:03 |
| Jazzva | asac: Test building liferea with webkit ... so far no breakages. | 21:26 |
| Jazzva | And now it's compiling source files... | 21:27 |
| asac | bug 38131 | 21:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 38131 in firefox "Firefox causes massive Xorg CPU usage" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38131 | 21:32 |
| asac | bug #198453 | 21:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 198453 in pulseaudio "Default ALSA device must use PulseAudio, otherwise ALSA applications may fail" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/198453 | 21:34 |
| Jazzva | asac: Any way how can I check if liferea uses webkit? | 21:38 |
| Jazzva | asac: Oh, there is the message in the terminal :) | 21:38 |
| asac | Jazzva: ldd /usr/bin/liferea | 21:38 |
| asac | or any binary it distributes | 21:39 |
| asac | hehe | 21:39 |
| Jazzva | Note: WebKit HTML rendering support is experimental and | 21:39 |
| Jazzva | I suppose it is with webkit :) | 21:39 |
| asac | does it work good? | 21:39 |
| Jazzva | Let me test it a bit... Adding a feed, removing a feed, updating, etc... :) | 21:39 |
| Jazzva | asac: Can you check the post in Planet Ubuntu, published today at 12:59PM.. The name of the blog/poster is not displayed correctly, but with boxes with utf character code in them. | 21:41 |
| asac | only have a post at 12.49 | 21:45 |
| asac | err, most recent is 22:10 | 21:45 |
| asac | my history doesnt get that far | 21:45 |
| asac | i wiped my .liferea-1.4 dir :) | 21:45 |
| Jazzva | Ah... ok, I'll remove liferea-webkit, to see if it's ok :) | 21:46 |
| Jazzva | asac: It's the problem with liferea (or my character support...), and not with liferea-webkit | 21:48 |
| Jazzva | asac: So, at the first glance, it works fine. | 21:49 |
| asac | ok. do we have latest webkit? | 21:49 |
| Jazzva | asac: the same as in debian | 21:51 |
| Jazzva | it's 0~svn32442-1 | 21:52 |
| Jazzva | And the change to the package it's really little. Just adding debian/liferea-webkit.* files from Debian's package, enabling it in debian/{control,rules} | 21:53 |
| Jazzva | asac: So, are we doing liferea-webkit package? | 21:59 |
| asac | Jazzva: thats good | 22:02 |
| asac | we can probably enable it and push it | 22:02 |
| asac | Jazzva: have to get webkit to main though | 22:03 |
| asac | Jazzva: can you look how epiphany with webkit currently looks like? | 22:03 |
| asac | if that is already in a usable state we can do that migration too i guess | 22:03 |
| Jazzva | asac: You mean to build it? there is no package in ubuntu | 22:04 |
| asac | Jazzva: right ;) | 22:07 |
| asac | i think webkit is disabled | 22:07 |
| Jazzva | asac: Ok, I'll get our package and enable webkit :). | 22:08 |
| crimsun | asac: WRT libflashsupport, it's a bit complicated. It was never a real solution, so it shouldn't be used in either hardy-* or intrepid. The PulseAudio source package doesn't need to be adjusted in hardy-*; it may be in intrepid (i.e., promoting libasound2-plugins from Recommends to Depends). | 22:41 |
| crimsun | asac: So, for intrepid, libasound2-plugins is the intended path, since it functions with flashplugin-nonfree much better than libflashsupport (not to mention alsa-lib is fixed). | 22:42 |
| Jazzva | asac: Could we do the merge of epiphany-browser from debian, and then try to enable the webkit during the merge? | 22:42 |
| crimsun | asac: it is not possible to cleanly SRU alsa-lib into hardy-*, because the necessary bits will cause apps compiled against hardy's libasound2-dev to break. | 22:43 |
| Jazzva | asac: At least, I would go that way... :) | 22:49 |
| asac | crimsun: i agree on dumping libflashssupport | 22:54 |
| asac | crimsun: so what are the alsa-lib changes? isnt it just a the pulse plugin that needs to be enabled + flash 10? | 22:54 |
| crimsun | asac: no, we need a fixed alsa-plugins source package (see bzr) /and/ a fixed alsa-lib source package | 22:55 |
| crimsun | (for hardy-*, that is) | 22:55 |
| crimsun | alsa-plugins bits are fairly trivial and already in bzr | 22:56 |
| asac | right. just wonder what fix is it that requires alsa-lib to break ABI? | 22:56 |
| asac | crimsun: alsa plugins == pulse plugin/module for alsa right? | 22:56 |
| crimsun | I'll dig up the specific changesets, just on the phone ATM | 22:56 |
| crimsun | (WRT alsa-lib) | 22:57 |
| asac | crimsun: ok thanks | 22:57 |
| crimsun | yes, alsa-plugins contains pulse pcm & ctl | 22:57 |
| Jazzva | asac: If you have few minutes :)... Would you be ok if I try to do epiphany merge? It seems big, mostly Makefile.in's that couldn't be merged. So, I suppose I should just keep Debian files for that. Any other warnings? (in case you're fine with me doing the merge) | 22:57 |
| Jazzva | (you are the last uploader for it...) | 22:58 |
| asac | Jazzva: which merge? | 22:59 |
| Jazzva | asac: epiphany-browser | 22:59 |
| asac | Jazzva: i just upgraded epiphany-browser to latest upstream :) | 22:59 |
| asac | i am not really sure that epiphany-browser is really based on debian packages | 22:59 |
| Jazzva | asac: Hmm... I downloaded 2.22.1.1 (I think) half an hour ago... Now I noticed there is a merge waiting in Debian. So, merge is a no-go way. | 22:59 |
| asac | Jazzva: 2.22.2 is in proposed | 23:00 |
| asac | and intrepid | 23:00 |
| asac | iirc | 23:00 |
| Jazzva | asac: Looking at the changelog, I think we merged in the hardy cycle. But, there were many changes since then... | 23:00 |
| asac | our chanages are mostly for xulrunner 1.9 | 23:01 |
| asac | we probably need to keep them | 23:01 |
| asac | try to do the merge, but try to keep the xulrunner 1.9 changes for now | 23:01 |
| asac | (if the merge is about 2.22.2 at all) | 23:01 |
| asac | otherwise we have to wait till debian updates their package to 2.22.2 | 23:02 |
| Jazzva | Nope... I think it's still 2.22.1.1 in debian. | 23:02 |
| Jazzva | Ok... I'll try to pick their changes in order to enable webkit, and put them in our package... | 23:03 |
| asac | Jazzva: yeah ... do a three way merge ;) | 23:03 |
| Jazzva | Is that a good thing :)? | 23:04 |
| Jazzva | what is a three way merge exactly? | 23:04 |
| asac | better would be to do the debian upgrade and then merge ;) | 23:04 |
| asac | not sure who is debian maintainer | 23:04 |
| asac | but maybe its lool? | 23:04 |
| asac | you can certainly ask him to upload to debian | 23:04 |
| asac | Jazzva: well. now i remember: you should actually packag elatest 2.23 snapshot | 23:06 |
| asac | thats where all the epiphany webkit work happens | 23:06 |
| Jazzva | asac: Josselin Mouette and slomo... and Debian GNOME maintainers | 23:06 |
| asac | and we can drop xul changes as xul backend is gone | 23:06 |
| asac | ok | 23:06 |
| asac | Jazzva: maybe just try a local build for latest trunk of epiphany | 23:07 |
| asac | if that is good we should talk to seb first | 23:07 |
| asac | on how to coordinate that | 23:07 |
| asac | he has plans for 2.23 soon | 23:07 |
| Jazzva | So, for now, we go with 2.23... | 23:07 |
| Jazzva | Right? | 23:07 |
| asac | so he probably wants 2.23 packaged | 23:07 |
| asac | Jazzva: right ?... but dont put too much efford in packaging. maybe just try to build upstream sources and see in what state the tree is | 23:07 |
| asac | maybe upstream currently does some heavy lifting and its not suitable to be packaged at all right now | 23:08 |
| Jazzva | umm... ok. I'll see what I can do | 23:09 |
| asac | Bug 227274 | 23:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 227274 in firefox "X session crash when I visit a page with firefox" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/227274 | 23:12 |
| asac | hmm gnomefreak set that to triaged | 23:12 |
| Jazzva | Ok... I'm off for 10-20 minutes.. See you soon | 23:13 |
| === fta_ is now known as fta | ||
| fta | http://vcscompare.blogspot.com/2008/06/on-mainline-merges-and-fast-forwards.html | 23:52 |
| fta | http://jam-bazaar.blogspot.com/2008/06/dvcs-comparison-on-mainline-merges-and.html | 23:56 |
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