[00:07] fta: what do i want? [00:08] no template, but a hack with $0 [00:08] fta: you certainly have found all those mail tweaks in bugzilla? [00:08] it's just a patch that has been committed today, written by [reed] :) [00:09] fta: The CC field changes [00:09] doesnt work? [00:09] eh? [00:09] <[reed]> fta: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email [00:10] hhmm, thanks [00:10] fta: quite easy to find imo: preferences -> email preferences [00:13] good. done [00:13] g++ -U_FORTIFY_SOURCE -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -Wall -Wconversion -Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Wsynth -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -Wcast-align -Wno-long-long -pedantic -g -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar -pthread -pipe -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -Os -freorder-blocks -fno-reorder-functions -fexceptions -Wno-unknown-pragmas -fPIC -shared -Wl,-z,defs -Wl,-h,libxpcomclucene.so -o libxpcomclucene.so flockLucene.o flockLuceneImp [00:13] l.o flockLuceneThread.o flockLuceneModule.o -lpthread -Wl,-Bsymbolic-functions -Wl,-rpath-link,../../../../dist/bin ../../../../dist/lib/libxpcomglue_s.a -L../../../../dist/bin -lxpcom -L/usr/lib -lplds4 -lplc4 -lnspr4 -lpthread -ldl /usr/lib/libclucene.a -Wl,--version-script -Wl,../../../../build/unix/gnu-ld-scripts/components-version-script -Wl,-Bsymbolic -ldl -lm [00:13] /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/libclucene.a(FSDirectory.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC [00:13] /usr/lib/libclucene.a: could not read symbols: Bad value [00:13] collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [00:13] make[8]: *** [libxpcomclucene.so] Error 1 [00:13] damn amd64 [00:39] fta: where is libclucene from? [00:39] is that packaged? [00:39] yzq [00:39] yes [00:40] why didn't i find it yet? [00:40] --with-clucene-prefix=/usr and libclucene-dev [00:40] i searched for lucense for C multiple times [00:40] stupid me [00:41] c++ ... ok [01:10] hello [01:12] so, hows firefox 3 coming? [01:14] with v(MAX) [01:14] :-P [01:18] Hawkskater: are you running RC1 from hardy-proposed? [01:18] no, im running 3 beta 5, i havent gotten around to installing the rc [01:20] its simple. add hardy-proposed or the mozillateam PPA sources to sources.list [01:20] https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive [01:20] asac, hardy/libclucene is broken: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15025765/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.flock_2.0%7Ea1%7Esvn20080603r19205-0ubuntu1%7Efta4%7Ehardy_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [01:20] but hardy-propopsed is more up to date [01:20] asac thanks [01:21] fta: do they ship any .o files by accident? [01:22] who ? clucene or flock ? [01:22] flock [01:23] looking [01:23] nope [01:28] debian bug 460328 [01:28] Debian bug 460328 in libclucene0 "x86_64 segfault bug reintroduced" [Unknown,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/460328 [01:29] asac [01:44] Hawkskater: yes. [01:44] RC is better [01:44] any great new features? [01:45] but b5 wasnt really bad either. but as always there is no objective measure here what is really good [01:45] Hawkskater: no ... feature work was done before beta even ;) [01:45] polishing mostly [01:45] oh, i might want to update === asac_ is now known as asac === ]reed[ is now known as [reed] [09:15] hello and good morning, I want to configure a calender/mail server using for less then ten users. Which software do you suggest and where can I find documentation to configure server _and_ client [09:15] the client should be Thunderbird/lightning [09:16] MechtiIde: you can configure a webdav server [09:16] that should be enough [09:16] for calendaring [09:16] for mail you can used something independent [09:16] whatever you prefer [09:16] i assume you want an imap server [09:17] asac, where do I find a HowTo or something similar? [09:17] there are a bunch with different targetted audienced ... i cannot give a preference for servers [09:17] MechtiIde: google "setup webdav apache" [09:17] apt-cache search imap server [09:18] and a WebDav dokumentation for User not for developer [09:18] if you have a specific imap server google for "setup XXXSERVER ubuntu" [09:18] MechtiIde: google like above [09:19] thanks for the right words to look for [09:21] MechtiIde: you can also seay "setup webdav apache ubuntu" [09:21] :) [09:21] thats the second hit: http://www.digital-arcanist.com/sanctum/article.php?story=20070427101250622 [09:22] our wiki could deserve a page for WebDAV setup ... maybe summarize your experiences there for other users [09:22] MechtiIde: ^^ [09:23] I will describe it [09:23] also for Debian/Lenny [09:27] asac: bumb! [09:28] dump [09:28] bumb rc2! [09:29] armin76: we already are far ahead ... RC2 is for the weak [09:30] lol [09:33] given that gentoo is not really the place to find the weak ... and given that you dont distribute with official marks ... how about always tracking trunnk in gentoo :) [09:33] that would surely give you credits on fta side ;) [09:34] haha [09:34] no way :P [09:34] bah, i stand corrected: gentoo is a place for the weak ;) [09:34] i do other stuff more interesting than mozilla :P [09:34] compiling X? [09:34] :-D [09:34] and OOO [09:34] to test latest compiler tweaks [09:35] lol [09:35] -O666 -Wl,-DTHE_NUMBER_OF_THE_BEAST [09:35] no, i do arch testing, something ubuntu and debian doesn't do :P [09:35] yeah [09:35] much appreciated [09:35] debian has some QA though [09:35] just depends on wheteher ther are users at all for lets say s390 desktop ;) [09:36] and we aren't stuck with old kernels :P [09:37] are we? [09:37] is debian? [09:37] did debian enter base freeze yet? [09:37] Linux i2 2.6.26-rc4 #1 SMP Wed Jun 4 11:43:22 UTC 2008 ia64 31 GenuineIntel GNU/Linux *g* [09:37] no idea [09:39] thats for the weak for sure ;) ... you should be unning 2.7.0 [09:39] hah, outdated ... latest is 2.6.26-rc5 [09:40] its a dev box, i don't reboot it everyday :P [09:40] haha [09:41] but you don't have one! do you? [09:41] fail! [09:43] 2.7? sure ... i am a strong guy and spoof the version umber just to impress the world [09:48] i mean a dev box :P [09:48] gtg === fta_ is now known as fta [09:49] my dev box is my desktop at home. an all-HEAD desktop :) [09:50] fta: can you please to a maintainence change for the current intrepid mozilla-devscripts? [09:50] all those things like mercurila should not be depends, but recommends [09:50] let me know if you can do it ... otherwise ill fork out the release and do it as its now blocking intrepid biulds [09:51] fta: do you track linux HEAD too? [09:51] which branch? -mm ? [09:52] not anymore, used to for years [09:52] fta: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15053195/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.midbrowser_0.3.0rc1a-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [09:53] midbrowser fails because of devscripts [09:53] mercurial should be available though ... not sure. but better drop the depends and make them recommends [09:53] lower the risk of pulling something broken ;) [09:54] fta: mercurial is in universe [09:54] done [09:56] fta: which branch is the stable update branch? [09:56] i cant upload 0.09 ... i need a spin of for 0.08 [09:56] even for intrepid ? [09:56] yes [09:56] why ? [09:57] i need a fix now ... cant risk that something breaks [09:58] well, the only change is mozclient, it's not automatically used by packages [09:58] dont bother ... ill do it [09:59] i've closed 0.09 already [09:59] thats not a problem [10:00] it is if you have no intention to push it [10:05] ok i have done it ... look if you are happy like it is [10:06] where ? [10:09] well, 0.09 is not pushed so there's no point in starting 0.09.1, i'd better unclose 0.09 for now [10:09] I need to run, i'll think about it [10:09] fta: i dont think its a problem. you can close 0.09.1 ... didnt want to unclose [10:09] but do as you wish [10:11] ok i creatd .hardy branch ... will mark main branch as development and that as mature [10:12] fta: if you undo the release, please do a full bzr merge https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/mozilla-devscripts/mozilla-devscripts.intrepid.0.08.1 [10:12] so we can mark that branch as merged without loosing the ploaded commit [10:13] once midbrowser is build we can upload 0.09 :) [10:13] or 0.09.1 [10:45] quick [10:49] [reed]: so what kind of mechanism should we use in bugzilla to track ubuntu forwarded bugs? [10:50] did we say keyword? ... or did we say "CC virtual user" ? [10:50] did we come up with other options? [10:55] bug 147119 [10:55] Launchpad bug 147119 in network-manager "network manager gives couldn't activate dialup service warning" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147119 [10:58] Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008052912 Firefox/3.0 <- interesting [10:58] rc2 identifies itself as 3.0 [10:58] armin76: rc1 too for me, no? [10:58] at least in about ;) [10:59] no idea [10:59] * armin76 checks [11:01] yup, you're right [11:01] i didn't notice :D [11:02] mozilla releases _real_ RCs ;) [11:02] which isnt that bad [11:06] this is odd [11:06] can anyone see me? [11:06] it seems as if im still syncing [11:07] yes [11:08] fta2: thanks [11:08] it seems as if the channels are syncing 5 at a time [11:08] i can't [11:09] did anyone open a bug on RC2 for the release? [11:09] i havent checked mail to see when it will release yet [11:10] rsn [11:10] rsn? [11:10] haha [11:11] gnomefreak: ubuntu already has 3.0 final :) [11:11] armin76: they ended up releasing RC1 as final? [11:11] yeah! bad ubuntu *g* [11:11] j/k [11:11] armin76: there was a bug or 2 blocking [11:12] armin76: are you just looking at the FF title bar or did you hear this from mozilla [11:13] woot? [11:13] rc2 is already released [11:13] armin76: when was it released? yesterday? [11:13] or today [11:13] read mozilla.com :P [11:13] err [11:14] .org [11:14] armin76: havent gotten that far yet and i will have it in email anyway [11:15] who has pine + thunderbird + IMAP? [11:15] This entry was posted by beltzner on Wednesday, June 4th, 2008 at 3:23 pm [11:15] * gnomefreak didnt think thunderbird read files from you ~/SHOME yet include them in TB folders [11:16] seems to me RC2 is borked [11:16] lol [11:17] This is bugging the hell outta me and I can't find a way to roll back [11:17] to RC1. Any idea? [11:18] gonna ask if its google tool bar causing that :) if i ever get TB to help me out [11:26] gnomefreak: in what way is RC2 borked? [11:26] important to figure out instead of rolling back [11:26] asac: its looking like extensions the more i read it [11:26] i posted comment asking about GTB [11:26] GTB? [11:26] GooleToolBar [11:27] ah [11:27] does that work at all? [11:27] asac: does thunberbird look for folders/mail from hard driver? like make folder in pine adn Tb will pick it up [11:28] asac: AFAIK its still broken [11:28] las i heard Google only updated API for certain sites like gmail [11:28] fta2: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15056277/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.midbrowser_0.3.0rc1a-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [11:28] still fails [11:30] asac: see bug 122529 as i have neverheard of TB looking in ~/Mail for folders nor mail [11:30] Launchpad bug 122529 in mozilla-thunderbird "Non-Thunderbird IMAP folders not visible to Thunderbird" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122529 [11:30] it was closed at one time but user reopened it [11:30] be back smoke [11:31] well ... you can use movemail [11:31] then you can probalby specify that as the location [11:32] maybe you can even set a custom location for Mail for certain accountgs [11:32] fta2: i wonder if builds now require recommends too [11:32] cant see which version was pulled in ... will retry in an hour [12:11] is it possible to set TB2 to offline mode for incoming and online for outgoing? yes it saounds silly but very helpfull when you have ~2000 emails and more just keep coming in [12:12] dont think so [12:12] why? [12:13] hmm [12:13] you say a "stop the flood button" ? [12:13] too many coming in while im working on sending email so it would same me the time to keep scrolling [12:13] asac: yes :) [12:13] hmm [12:14] and what are the little orange "stars" or "circle" [12:14] intersting approach ;) [12:14] next to new mail [12:14] why is that a problem? [12:14] thunderbird should keep the currently selected mail active [12:14] asac: time consumming to keep reading the email (its almost like) im looping without a breaking point [12:16] it does but since i work from top to bottom of the list of mails and only comment on some the rest stay marked as unread until im done just incase i missed something [12:18] gnomefreak: maybe sort by date? [12:18] not by thread? [12:18] hmmmmm [12:19] i guess ill have to change how they are viewed [12:19] i think you are right [12:19] what one would want is going through mails by date, but still viewing thread [12:19] e.g. you could manually go up and down single steps with cursor [12:19] but the next mail button would go to next mail by date [12:20] gnomefreak: maybe thats the case? [12:20] you can hit 'j' to get to next mail [12:24] yeh that about right. I just hate the fact that no matter what view its not helpful with that many emails. i wonder if someone has a extension for something like that :) [12:25] * gnomefreak has an idea [12:25] have all my outgoing comments ready to send than turn tb back online and send them :) [13:05] asac: got another firefox/thunderbird should save files "****" bug 175286 [13:05] Launchpad bug 175286 in mozilla-firefox "Feature request: save files read-only when invoking external viewers" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175286 [13:08] gnomefreak: thats fixed in hardy [13:08] look at a changelog to infd the dupe [13:08] k [13:08] in FF3 or 2? [13:12] asac: im not seeing it https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0 nor in firefox source package [13:13] gnomefreak: no thats fixed in thunderb [13:13] irdf [13:13] firefox 3 has it fixed [13:13] ffox 2 wontfix [13:16] asac: firefox-3 fix was ours or upstreams? [13:17] fucking thunderbird feature is broken cant send unsent mails after turning it back online [13:18] gnomefreak: fffox 3 == fixed upstream [13:18] tbird 2 == fixed here [13:18] ffox 2 == wontfix [13:18] thanks [13:21] i cant send mail in tb :( [13:21] thats alot of replys that wont get sent [13:24] bug 192888 [13:24] Launchpad bug 192888 in libflashsupport "firefox crashes on flash contents when using libflashsupport" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192888 [13:27] only 50 bugmails in fox3 folder left : [13:27] ) [13:29] [reed]: you think bug 236610 aspect was already discussed or even fixed? [13:29] Launchpad bug 236610 in xulrunner-1.9 "Firefox 'bad certificate' warning blocks navigation with small secured frames" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236610 [13:29] e.g. invalid cert in an iframe where the user cannot reach the "add exception ..." button? [13:39] gnomefreak: can you confirm bug 236901 [13:39] ? [13:39] Launchpad bug 236901 in firefox-3.0 "privacy settings not followed when closing firefox by the 'file' menu" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236901 [13:39] let me know [13:39] k [13:39] im thinking gmail has issues today [13:42] file > close works fine asked me to delete personal info and loaded the bug page in tab [13:43] andd it works fine using the X in upper right hand corner. I DONT SEE A RED X anywhere. maybe its a theme hes using? [13:45] * asac lunch [13:45] commented on bug [13:47] * gnomefreak heading to drs. appointment not sure how long i will be gone but once noon gets here asac: 233610 sucks, tbh :P [14:08] we'll miss the dialogs :( [14:49] bug 233610 [14:49] Launchpad bug 233610 in elisa "Text doesn't fit into the popup area" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/233610 [14:49] mozilla bug 233610 [14:49] Mozilla bug 233610 in Bugzilla-General "Modem Connection can not be deactivated" [Normal,Resolved: invalid] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=233610 [14:49] armin76: not sure what you mean [14:50] asac: 236610 :P [14:52] armin76: gentoo thing? [14:52] bug 236610 [14:52] Launchpad bug 236610 in xulrunner-1.9 "Firefox 'bad certificate' warning blocks navigation with small secured frames" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236610 [15:04] bug folder all read [15:25] 400 to go in ffox 2 folder :( [17:51] * Admiral_laptop is smooth... [17:51] I deleted everything in /usr/bin that I needed [17:52] basically the whole core-utils package.. [17:52] time to go fix it.. [17:52] gah, wrong channel. [17:56] fail [18:15] ^^ was that ment for this channel :) ? [18:15] oh he already noticed [18:15] i should work on screens that have more than 10 lines ;) [19:25] asac: what do you guys do with crash reporting/breakpad? [19:40] campd: multiple options. [19:40] campd: 1. send all stacktraces we currently have somewhere [19:41] campd: 2. in future enable crashreporter and arrange with you so that you can properly analyze those crashes [19:41] e.g. work how to get dbg symbols to you and so on [19:43] campd: would you be willing to help us get things sorted on your side? [19:46] I can find the right people to talk to :) [19:46] do you just disable the crash reporter for now? [19:46] campd: for now its disabled. we have our own distro solution, e.g. we get all crashes reported as bugs [19:46] yeah [19:46] cool, thanks [19:47] but i want to change that ;) ... tell me what we need to do before we can able crashporter [19:47] np [19:51] asac: so basically what you'd need to do is send us symbols, and point the crash reporter at our crash reporting server [19:52] asac: Ted Mielczarek can give you more detail about what you'd need to do [19:52] campd: true. but what symbols ... how do you select the right ones? you probably need the symbols for all depends as well [19:53] either ted.mielczarek@gmail.com or you can ask on dev-platform [19:53] campd: yeah, i know him. i wanted to talk with him about it once in #breakpad, but then things got in between [19:54] campd: whats your mozilla.com address? campd@moz.. ? [19:54] dcamp@ [19:56] asac: is the data generated by your crash reporter available publically anywhere? [19:57] campd: its all in bugs. [19:57] every crash is one bug. [19:57] ah [19:57] i can show you one [19:58] there is a text file attachment that has the thread stack trace [19:58] how is dup management handled? [19:58] campd: if you can use those to inject them in your database i could arrange to send you all files in a batch [19:58] I dunno how that'd work [19:58] campd: we have a database running on the server that tries to match them. doesnt work that great for mozillas [19:58] but in general it works [19:59] still nothing as streamlined as breakpad [19:59] cool [19:59] campd: bug 188540 [19:59] Launchpad bug 188540 in firefox-3.0 "firefox-3.0 crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slice_alloc()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188540 [20:08] campd: ok i sent a starter mail to you and ted. [20:12] asac: cool, thanks [20:13] probably a bit confusing without context. hope that is ok for a start [20:13] looks fine to me [20:20] jcastro: thanks received the mail from sonbird folks and will answer that [20:20] by tomorrow the answers should be there [20:25] Jazzva: hey [20:26] asac: Here I am... [20:26] Jazzva: howdy? [20:27] asac: Pretty good ... You? :) [20:27] same same [20:27] ;) [20:27] Jazzva: how are your merges going for this cycle? [20:27] wanna get you in ubuntu-dev ;) [20:27] asac: Not so good... have been lazy [20:27] * Jazzva is ashamed [20:27] hehe [20:28] asac: So far: liferea, ksimus, and... lemme check [20:28] how can i motivate you? [20:28] Jazzva: did i upload liferea yet? [20:28] otherwise give me link ... ill do that now [20:28] asac: Nope :). [20:28] Ok, wait a second [20:28] asac: I have also been helping norsetto with gnome-mplayer and gecko-mediaplayer :) [20:29] Jazzva: yeah ... i know. he asked me to sponsor them to debian [20:29] which ill do [20:29] asac: liferea is bug 228827 [20:29] at least i plan to [20:29] Launchpad bug 228827 in liferea "Please merge liferea-1.4.15-1 from Debian unstable" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/228827 [20:29] And tracker. That's it so far... [20:30] Jazzva: there is still no full debdiff :/ [20:30] thought you said you attached that? [20:30] asac: Well, I think that should be the one without po [20:31] Every time I asked about po changes, I was told to remove them from the final debdiff... [20:31] Let me see on ubuntu-motu. [20:33] asac: what about me! :P [20:33] asac: I'll try to find some merge to do it tonight. :) [20:34] armin76: you? ... i thought you ----><---- that close from getting banned on all public irc networks:-P ... now you want to be a ubuntu-dev? [20:34] hehe [20:35] haha [20:35] why would i get banned? :P [20:36] asac: There is the comment on #ubuntu-motu... Let me just check the changelog :). If there is no mention of those rare cases, I think the debdiff without-po is the final one... [20:37] Jazzva: ok i am building and uploading [20:37] i dont mind. [20:37] just remember to follow up in case liferea gets regressions :) [20:38] Ok... I haven't seen any while I was messing around with it. [20:39] asac: How many votes would I need for ubuntu-dev? [20:44] Jazzva: just consent i think. there is no absolute number [20:44] Jazzva: if you have a few that would be good ... if you have noone against you thats even better ;) [20:45] Jazzva: updating my subscriptions doesnt work [20:45] i get (-) signs next to the subscription [20:45] asac: Well, you said you would give one. pochu mentioned he would be willing to say he was happy with those two merges, but that he doubts it wouldn't mind. And I might ask norsetto, if he would support me. I don't know if anyone else remembers me [20:45] asac: lemme run it [20:47] hmm hostname could not be found [20:47] whats gong on [20:48] asac: It works here... updates correctly [20:48] Dunno what's wrong [20:49] I'll test the debdiff again :/ [20:49] yeah ... let me check [20:49] i have a wierd feeling [20:49] Jazzva: are you using xulrunner 1.9 rc1? [20:50] Yes [20:50] 1.9~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 [20:50] That one [20:50] works? [20:50] Let me build with the debdiff... [20:50]