[00:05] zoredache: sorry to bug ya again but is this normal so far? [00:05] r00t@UnicornShrimper:~/Desktop/Type name of new folder$ sudo find / -type f -name 'asms' [00:05] find: /proc/8000: No such file or directory [00:06] yeah... find really isn't the best tool. It would be better to get slocate or tracker installed and get your disk initilized [00:06] or the index of your disk initizled rather [00:06] ok thanks [00:17] howdy. I uninstalled compiz from my eee which upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and now my windows don't have borders. How do I fix that? [00:29] hi all, I'm remastering a CD for automatic installation (kickstart)... but my CD drive is an external USB device and it doesn't seem to find it during the install. When I install manually, it boots from the CD, then yields it doesn't find the media. I need to load a "cdrom" module which is proposed to me during the install, and only after that it works [00:29] what should I append to the boot prompt to load the cdrom ? [00:31] Anyone able to help me out with Xubuntu [00:31] ? [00:32] !anyone [00:32] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [00:33] I read that Xubuntu is good for older computers. I can't run the live CD on an old computer with 96 MB of ram. I also have 8 GB free. Is there something I'm missing? [00:34] I believe the livecd requires 192mb of ram. [00:34] you aren't really missing anything. It is just people have different defintions of what 'old' is, and different expecations of what 'runs' means [00:34] bah [00:34] !lowmem | kaldor616 [00:34] kaldor616: For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements. [00:34] any live CD that would work with it? [00:35] a different linux distro or something? [00:35] I highly doubt you can have a working gui + applications on only 96MB of ram [00:35] on a livecd [00:35] ah [00:35] alright then [00:36] thanks anyway :) [00:36] those where articles about how to tweak xubuntu/ubuntu for a low memory systme [00:38] where can I read about the possible options I can append to the kernel boot prompt ? [00:38] the kernel documentations will tell you about everything the kernel accepts [00:39] if you are feeding to debian-installer then you would need to read the debian-installer docs [00:40] zoredache: ok [00:40] isolinux/isolinux.cfg [00:40] that's the file i'm modifying [00:40] so I guess it's even before debian-installer [00:40] right now I have append ks=cdrom:/ks.cfg [00:41] isolinux passes a set of arguments to the kenel. The kernel will use any options in recognizes then pass the rest on as enviroment variables to anything that is started [00:41] but my cd is not found (strange as it boots on it and i get the xubuntu CD menu) [00:42] error 29, cannot lock a locked drive. will now reboot.. says partition magic when i try delete my old ubuntu hoary partition [00:45] #29 Cannot lock a locked drive [00:45] Verify that the partitions you are attempting to modify are not on a locked hard disk. [00:46] locked hard disk ? what does that mean ? [00:46] I would guess it might mean that you have it mounted, or you are using it somehow [00:47] partition magic performs the delete operation from the boot, so its kinda strange that it would be locked ..(?) well, it loads the grub from that partition i guess [00:47] and i deleted other(windows) partitiosn succesfully from the same hard disk [00:48] just at the same boot [00:49] the bios could be doing something weird. Some bios for a while had a boot-sector protection feature... [00:49] ok [00:50] i will be getting into that problem later though. while i tried to delete it, it did mess up my grub, but i was about to reinstall the whole system, so i started to install windows xp now.. after that, i will try delete that ubuntu and install xubuntu [00:52] is there anything on the drive that you care about right now? [00:53] there are some quick (but dangerious) commands that you can use to quickly wipe out everything... So from a livecd a command like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1024 count=1024 [00:53] that command will make everything on the drive go away [00:54] nop === Damien_33102 is now known as applemilk [00:54] hey [00:54] you could also try using gparted from the livecd [00:54] i need help compiling gnash [00:54] ic [00:54] three dependencies needed [00:54] one of them says i need it when i have the latest version :( [00:54] do you have the -dev package? [00:55] uhhh [00:55] lol i'mma go check now [00:55] maybe i dont :( [00:56] and after all this i need to compile pidgin too since i need pidgin :( if i get the same problems i'll be having a long day [00:56] i dont see it in synaptic [00:56] use the search form on packages.ubuntu.com [00:57] ok [00:57] what package are we talking about? and why do you want to compile pidgin, its in the repos. [00:57] why do you need to compile? [00:58] Package libming0 [00:58] i see mingw32 but i dont think i need that [00:58] i need to compile gnash [00:58] and i'm using dapper [00:58] oh well [00:59] anyways what's the link to the ubuntu pastebin thing? [00:59] paste.ubuntu? [00:59] !paste [00:59] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [00:59] ok [01:00] sudo apt-get install libming-dev [01:01] libming-dev is already the newest version. [01:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/17029/ [01:01] there [01:01] i would install hardy :p [01:01] I am trying to get an EVDO usb modem working and every article refers to /proc/bus/usb/devices but I don't have that dir [01:01] three packages [01:01] did something change in 8.04? [01:02] Stroganoff, when i tried to upgrade to 8.04 i couldnt.. i'm using ppc [01:03] applemilk i would download the hardy alternate iso, if you select not to format the main partition, it will delete all system folders except /home (and i guess /opt) and install hardy ^^ [01:03] :( awww but i only have one blank disc left [01:03] well is it still possible to compile gnash? [01:04] i've been told that it's possible in dapper [01:04] applemilk: it is possible, but isn't nessicarily easy or something that we can help with [01:04] libming-util [01:04] oh [01:05] Stroganoff, found a package of that [01:05] downloading [01:05] okay its done [01:06] now i have two more packages i think [01:06] ok I have /proc/bus/usb but no devices file in that dir [01:06] how can i check to make sure i did get this though? so i dont get te warning again [01:06] my usb dvd and hdd work fine [01:06] how do i view my windows partition. [01:07] E: Couldn't find package mtasc [01:07] i need mtasc [01:08] !ntfs | adude [01:08] adude: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubottu NTFS-3g or /msg ubottu FUSE [01:09] thinkmassive try "lsusb" instead of "cat /proc/usb..." [01:09] I did, it doesn't give the strings I need (Vendor and ProdID) [01:09] is the proc file just outdated? [01:10] ah ha! hwinfo --usb worked :) [01:10] grr i have to get mtasc i'll be back brb [01:10] how do i get myself an away message here? [01:11] /away brb church [01:13] there's actually a parameter in wvdial.conf called "Stupid Mode" [01:14] oh [01:14] okay back well [01:14] it's precompiled [01:14] i'm not that familiar with this so how do i open it? [01:18] when i right click and select "execute" nothing happens [01:20] i'll do ./configure first [01:20] !md5 [01:20] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [01:20] extract it to /opt/mtasc/ and (maybe) point the gnash configure file to that path [01:21] how [01:21] since all i know is to just cd to the gnash directory and do ./configure so i dont kjnow hot to do that ;p[ [01:21] :P * [01:22] sudo mkdir /opt/mtasc [01:22] sudo tar xf mtasc-1.12-linux.tgz -C /opt/mtasc [01:23] libming-dev [01:23] didnt even install [01:23] http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/libming-dev [01:24] lucky [01:25] it says same version is already installed [01:27] in synaptic when i look f or libming i see the ones i need already installed :( i'll try the other packages first then [01:29] hum, I can't figure out how to boot from that usb cd-rom correctly... any hints ? [01:30] what could I pass to the kernel to load a non-ide cdrom ? [01:35] if gnash doesnt work i'll try swfdec and use an older version of gnash for ads and school work (my school site is flash...........agggggg) [01:41] i found mtasc [01:41] but not for debian [01:42] i mean [01:42] dapper [01:42] dunno why i thought said debian. but does that mean i cant use gnash then? [02:06] ahh i need help getting three packages when compiling gnash [02:06] ,....on dapper [02:07] waaatt [02:07] wat [02:07] why are you compiling gnash [02:07] because [02:08] i'm on dapper [02:08] y r u on dapper lols [02:08] applemilk You were banned in Ubuntu for a reason... [02:08] what [02:08] John [02:08] dont go offtopic dude [02:09] For your "Room-mates" antics [02:09] what? [02:09] rude [02:09] i dont have time for you dont bother me [02:09] I can pull up the log from ops earlier [02:10] dude get out [02:10] * cody-somerville coughs. [02:11] :) [02:11] ignoring you [02:11] dont bother me [02:11] applemilk, What packages are you trying to get? [02:11] well [02:11] * lc2 hums/sings..."and we should...all...just get...along" [02:11] three of them [02:11] hold on [02:11] ming, mtasc and uhh [02:11] swfmill [02:11] swfc i mean [02:11] i'll use the pastebin hold on [02:11] paste.ubuntu.com/17029/ [02:12] ignore the "Bababooey" i didnt kjnow what to put there :P [02:14] those are warnings, not errors, can't you just ignore them? [02:14] well [02:14] when i go to make it [02:14] i get an error [02:15] let me find it hold on === natjo1986 is now known as natjo [02:15] collect2: ld returned 1 exit status [02:15] make[2]: *** [libgnashbase.la] Error 1 [02:15] make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/john/Desktop/gnash-0.8.2/libbase' [02:15] make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 [02:15] make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/john/Desktop/gnash-0.8.2' [02:15] make: *** [all] Error 2 [02:15] oops [02:15] but yeah there it is [02:16] That isn't caused by not having those applications installed [02:16] oh [02:16] why is it caused [02:16] I would ask in #gnash [02:16] They're better equipped to help you [02:16] oh i didnt know there was a channel [02:16] okay thanks [02:16] applemilk: you cut off your paste just after the part that would actually tell you what's wrong [02:17] ohhh [02:17] okay hold on [02:18] actually that was it [02:18] before i was taken back to the.. terminal thing [02:18] hold on let me use pastebin [02:19] would having very little space on your HD prevent a person from installing xubuntu? [02:19] not at all [02:19] ihave 8gb [02:19] i have 1.2 [02:20] woo at least i have a bigger hard drive for once :P [02:20] than someone i mean [02:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/17055/ [02:20] theres the entire thing [02:20] well hold on natjo [02:21] Xubuntu can be installed with one of 2 CDs, both requiring at least 1.5GB of hard drive space. Installing with the Desktop CD requires 192 MB of RAM, while the Alternate CD (which uses a text based installer), requires 64 MB of RAM, and also allows access to additional options for the installation.[2] [02:21] ooh... [02:21] applemilk: whoah [02:21] what [02:21] why are you compiling with -nostdlib? [02:22] i have no problem deleting stuff because i have an external hd so i need to delete some stuff [02:22] that's what's causing the linker errors [02:22] i have no idea, lc2 [02:22] i mean i just type ./configure [02:22] then "make" [02:22] applemilk: try: make LDFLAGS+="-lstdc++" [02:22] or figure out why it's adding -nostdlib because it shouldn't do that [02:23] i used the command [02:23] hope this wokrs [02:23] and for natjo, i'll tell you how mnuch xubuntu uses on this [02:24] actually now i dont know [02:24] how big of a hard drive you got? [02:25] what happens is i choose install and the white screen things shows up with install and it stayed like that for 1.5 hours and nothing happened and i just deleted some stuff and now have 4.6GB [02:25] you deleted stuff afterwards? [02:26] no i just did right now [02:26] did the white screen come up when you had 1.2gb or did you just do it now after clearing space? [02:27] applemilk: call me a retard and push me down i haven't even thought of that [02:27] well i'm off to try again [02:27] lol [02:27] okay figured that'd be the case [02:30] * applemilk prefers xchat [02:31] * lc2 prefers irssi [02:55] i need perl-XML-Parser but i cant find it in synaptic [03:39] hello i need info on how to set up home network === rubix is now known as magic_ninja [04:22] is there a different way to install xubuntu with a cd than the way it's trying to do now? [04:22] because i'm still stuck at the orange bird with a white window with install on top that does nothing for hours [04:22] and i've tried this at least 5 times [04:23] i only have 256 MB of ram and 25GB of HD available [04:23] are you sure it's not a bad CD? [04:23] this is the second one [04:24] i had a blackj screen and i did ctrl alt f1..:( [04:24] for terminal [04:24] natjo: oh :\ [04:24] natjo: have you checked the MD5 sum of your ISO? [04:24] i didn't know i was suppose to [04:24] natjo: you normally don't have to [04:25] natjo: i can only suppose a problem with the installation media, though [04:26] i'm just really really frustrated at it right now [04:27] what option you chose? [04:27] when you put the disc in and terminal and all [04:28] what i'm doing is restarting windows with the disc in when the xubuntu thing comes up i choose install [04:28] and then it just sits there and does nothing [04:29] wait do you get a terminal or not? [04:29] just wondering [04:29] i don't get nothing but that white window with install on top [04:29] applemilk: ? the cd never boots into a terminal [04:29] oh [04:29] mine did [04:29] :P [04:29] natjo: does X start or not? [04:29] cause i'm on ppc just wondering for najto [04:30] lc2: what do you mean when i try to test xubuntu out? [04:30] since i would think najto would have to do nosplash if it was a termanl [04:30] natjo: yes [04:31] terminal^ and [04:31] natjo: does it make it as far as the GUI? [04:31] so you say white and install? [04:31] yeah i can test it out but it really doesn't do anything [04:31] the mouse moves but i can't open anything [04:31] natjo: you might want to try the alternate install disk, then [04:32] alternate install disk okay and is that in the same place i found this iso i burned? [04:32] yup [04:32] should be [04:32] natjo: yes [04:33] natjo: will you be dual-booting? [04:33] no i want to get rid of windows [04:33] good choice [04:34] http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/8.04/release/xubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso [04:34] is what you want [04:34] thanks lc2 [04:34] and downloading [04:35] kay [04:36] this alternate won't be any different looking once installed than the desktop cd? [04:36] natjo: nope [04:37] it just gives you a text-based installer which can't go wrong [04:51] (inb4 it going wrong) [04:56] wat [04:57] * applemilk finds a piece of my own hair in my mouth [04:58] nice. [04:58] long hair :P [04:59] apparently [04:59] * applemilk is listening to Contra remixes while waiting for Pidgin to do it's think [04:59] ugh [04:59] finally got help from the slow IRCs === applemilk is now known as billyjean === billyjean is now known as applemilk [05:28] hello [05:29] i need help regarding home networking [05:29] i need to have access to my files on another xubuntu machine on same router how could i do that? [05:32] so you have two linux boxes? [05:36] applemilk well, join the #complaint_department channel [05:36] anyway the simple way would be to setup ssh on both and use sshfs to remotely mount things [05:37] what [05:37] why [05:37] vdozen: you could also work on setting up either nfs or samba. [05:37] i dont have a complaint [05:37] :P i got pidgin wokring thanks to the fast ircs, [05:37] the slow part was a joke [05:38] so was my part :P [05:38] wha... [05:38] dont scare me [05:38] ;_; [05:45] yes i have 2 linux boxes [05:46] tired of windows .. needed to try something new and xubuntu on my pc is way faster than windows [05:52] i want a lintop [05:53] they're real linux boxes because they're literally a small box with no moving parts :P [05:54] but don't you think they are a bit over priced for what you get/ [05:54] ? [05:55] how much [05:55] looking [05:56] 250.00EUR [05:56] how much is that in american money? [05:56] idk.. [05:57] gonna conovert [05:57] 385 american moolah [05:57] oh that's just bull :( [05:58] yeah, that is a bit too much for me... :) [05:58] hey guys look at my 380 dollar computer! [05:58] how much disk space do you get for that? [05:58] 1GB! :D [05:58] haha [05:58] can i store all my music on it? [05:58] NO but look how tiny it is! [05:58] yay welcome to 1996 [05:58] just like the macbook air [05:58] can it run crysis? no but look at it fit in this envelope1 [05:59] i'd like to see someone bring that at a lan party [05:59] can you do anything useful with it? no, but look at how cute it is, awwww! [05:59] with the lintop it's a nice small computer if you have 385 dollars to spare [05:59] people are stupid these days [06:00] they act like they need an incredibly tiyn laptop as if over 3 pounds is heavy [06:00] it should be100 USD or less.... [06:00] alotless [06:00] you can pick up an incredibly cheap older computer with the same specs and install linux just fine [06:01] i mean, you can get 1 gb of flash for like 12 bucks [06:01] or cheaper [06:01] i got 2gb for 14 [06:01] you could probably get all the parts (and better ones) for like 50 bucks... [06:02] before i left it in my pocket, my mom washed it and it was broken [06:02] definitely [06:02] i'd get an ipaq [06:02] i did that... [06:02] those small compaq computers [06:02] but mine still works! ;) [06:02] I HATE YOU ;_; [06:02] you ever heard of an ipaq? [06:02] they're small [06:02] even all the data was still on it.. [06:02] not ipaq but i dont know what thye're called [06:02] no i havent... [06:03] it's a small internet capable compaq computer [06:03] not sold anymore but it has the right specs for linux [06:03] like a lintop [06:03] i saw a review of the linutop at the linuxjournal and it doesn't even have a power switch, you have to unplug it.. :| [06:03] LOL ROFL [06:03] talk about green [06:04] i'd get a macbook if i had money to spare [06:04] the macbook air [06:05] i'd just love having an incredibly small overpriced limited computer [06:05] my only problem with mac is that i don't think i can ever get used to having only one mouse button... [06:05] there's onlyone?! [06:05] eek [06:05] :( [06:05] you didn't know that?! [06:05] No1 [06:05] :( [06:05] apple has only a single mouse button. no right-click... [06:06] that's saddd :( [06:06] you have to do shift click or something... [06:06] connect an external mouse [06:06] i hahve that on tihs imac [06:06] when i had osx it worked [06:06] but the touchpad of mac's are cool [06:06] apple has no idea what to say for their macbook air [06:06] all they can say is [06:06] ultra thin [06:06] ultra portable [06:06] ultra unlike anything else [06:07] ultra portable? laptops are as portable as can be [06:07] thin? there you go. unlike anything else? my mom's hp can upgrade RAm [06:08] i'm gonna go get gnash working [06:23] I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/17103/ when I visit www.goproblems.com and try to load a problem... I am running java6 anyone know what may be going on? [06:24] wtf. [06:25] My thoughts exactly [06:26] i have no idea [06:37] I need help. I ran "./configure" when trying to compile gnash on my Xubuntu Dapper ppc and got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17106/ [06:41] ./join #xbox [06:41] oops [06:42] wrong server tab to type that one [06:51] wow, deja vu [06:52] good morning [06:52] Hello [06:53] Its night for me here :P [07:30]