[00:05] <WaxyFresh> zoredache: sorry to bug ya again but is this normal so far?
[00:05] <WaxyFresh> r00t@UnicornShrimper:~/Desktop/Type name of new folder$ sudo find / -type f -name 'asms'
[00:05] <WaxyFresh> find: /proc/8000: No such file or directory
[00:06] <zoredache> yeah... find really isn't the best tool.  It would be better to get slocate or tracker installed and get your disk initilized
[00:06] <zoredache> or the index of your disk initizled rather
[00:06] <WaxyFresh> ok thanks
[00:17] <mindslant> howdy.  I uninstalled compiz from my eee which upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 and now my windows don't have borders.  How do I fix that?
[00:29] <AlexCONRAD> hi all, I'm remastering a CD for automatic installation (kickstart)... but my CD drive is an external USB device and it doesn't seem to find it during the install. When I install manually, it boots from the CD, then yields it doesn't find the media. I need to load a "cdrom" module which is proposed to me during the install, and only after that it works
[00:29] <AlexCONRAD> what should I append to the boot prompt to load the cdrom ?
[00:31] <kaldor616> Anyone able to help me out with Xubuntu
[00:31] <kaldor616> ?
[00:32] <zoredache> !anyone
[00:33] <kaldor616> I read that Xubuntu is good for older computers. I can't run the live CD on an old computer with 96 MB of ram. I also have 8 GB free. Is there something I'm missing?
[00:34] <zoredache> I believe the livecd requires 192mb of ram.
[00:34] <zoredache> you aren't really missing anything.  It is just people have different defintions of what 'old' is, and different expecations of what 'runs' means
[00:34] <kaldor616> bah
[00:34] <zoredache> !lowmem | kaldor616
[00:34] <kaldor616> any live CD that would work with it?
[00:35] <kaldor616> a different linux distro or something?
[00:35] <zoredache> I highly doubt you can have a working gui + applications on only 96MB of ram
[00:35] <zoredache> on a livecd
[00:35] <kaldor616> ah
[00:35] <kaldor616> alright then
[00:36] <kaldor616> thanks anyway :)
[00:36] <zoredache> those where articles about how to tweak xubuntu/ubuntu for a low memory systme
[00:38] <AlexCONRAD> where can I read about the possible options I can append to the kernel boot prompt ?
[00:38] <zoredache> the kernel documentations will tell you about everything the kernel accepts
[00:39] <zoredache> if you are feeding to debian-installer then you would need to read the debian-installer docs
[00:40] <AlexCONRAD> zoredache: ok
[00:40] <AlexCONRAD> isolinux/isolinux.cfg
[00:40] <AlexCONRAD> that's the file i'm modifying
[00:40] <AlexCONRAD> so I guess it's even before debian-installer
[00:40] <AlexCONRAD> right now I have append  ks=cdrom:/ks.cfg
[00:41] <zoredache> isolinux passes a set of arguments to the kenel.  The kernel will use any options in recognizes then pass the rest on as enviroment variables to anything that is started
[00:41] <AlexCONRAD> but my cd is not found (strange as it boots on it and i get the xubuntu CD menu)
[00:42] <floating> error 29, cannot lock a locked drive. will now reboot.. says partition magic when i try delete my old ubuntu hoary partition
[00:45] <floating> #29 Cannot lock a locked drive
[00:45] <floating> Verify that the partitions you are attempting to modify are not on a locked hard disk.
[00:46] <floating> locked hard disk ? what does that mean ?
[00:46] <zoredache> I would guess it might mean that you have it mounted, or you are using it somehow
[00:47] <floating> partition magic performs the delete operation from the boot, so its kinda strange that it would be locked ..(?) well, it loads the grub from that partition i guess
[00:47] <floating> and i deleted other(windows) partitiosn succesfully from the same hard disk
[00:48] <floating> just at the same boot
[00:49] <zoredache> the bios could be doing something weird.  Some bios for a while had a boot-sector protection feature...
[00:49] <floating> ok
[00:50] <floating> i will be getting into that problem later though. while i tried to delete it, it did mess up my grub, but i was about to reinstall the whole system, so i started to install windows xp now.. after that, i will try delete that ubuntu and install xubuntu
[00:52] <zoredache> is there anything on the drive that you care about right now?
[00:53] <zoredache> there are some quick (but dangerious) commands that you can use to quickly wipe out everything...  So from a livecd a command like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1024 count=1024
[00:53] <zoredache> that command will make everything on the drive go away
[00:54] <floating> nop
[00:54] <applemilk> hey
[00:54] <zoredache> you could also try using gparted from the livecd
[00:54] <applemilk> i need help compiling gnash
[00:54] <floating> ic
[00:54] <applemilk> three dependencies needed
[00:54] <applemilk> one of them says i need it when i have the latest version :(
[00:54] <Stroganoff> do you have the -dev package?
[00:55] <applemilk> uhhh
[00:55] <applemilk> lol i'mma go check now
[00:55] <applemilk> maybe i dont :(
[00:56] <applemilk> and after all this i need to compile pidgin too since i need pidgin :( if i get the same problems i'll be having a long day
[00:56] <applemilk> i dont see it in synaptic
[00:56] <Stroganoff> use the search form on packages.ubuntu.com
[00:57] <applemilk> ok
[00:57] <Stroganoff> what package are we talking about? and why do you want to compile pidgin, its in the repos.
[00:57] <zoredache> why do you need to compile?
[00:58] <applemilk> Package libming0
[00:58] <applemilk> i see mingw32 but i dont think i need that
[00:58] <applemilk> i need to compile gnash
[00:58] <applemilk> and i'm using dapper
[00:58] <Stroganoff> oh well
[00:59] <applemilk> anyways what's the link to the ubuntu pastebin thing?
[00:59] <applemilk> paste.ubuntu?
[00:59] <Stroganoff> !paste
[00:59] <applemilk> ok
[01:00] <Stroganoff> sudo apt-get install libming-dev
[01:01] <applemilk> libming-dev is already the newest version.
[01:01] <applemilk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17029/
[01:01] <applemilk> there
[01:01] <Stroganoff> i would install hardy :p
[01:01] <thinkmassive> I am trying to get an EVDO usb modem working and every article refers to /proc/bus/usb/devices  but I don't have that dir
[01:01] <applemilk> three packages
[01:01] <thinkmassive> did something change in 8.04?
[01:02] <applemilk> Stroganoff, when i tried to upgrade to 8.04 i couldnt.. i'm using ppc
[01:03] <Stroganoff> applemilk i would download the hardy alternate iso, if you select not to format the main partition, it will delete all system folders except /home (and i guess /opt) and install hardy ^^
[01:03] <applemilk> :( awww but i only have one blank disc left
[01:03] <applemilk> well is it still possible to compile gnash?
[01:04] <applemilk> i've been told that it's possible in dapper
[01:04] <zoredache> applemilk: it is possible, but isn't nessicarily easy or something that we can help with
[01:04] <Stroganoff> libming-util
[01:04] <applemilk> oh
[01:05] <applemilk> Stroganoff, found a package of that
[01:05] <applemilk> downloading
[01:05] <applemilk> okay its done
[01:06] <applemilk> now i have two more packages i think
[01:06] <thinkmassive> ok I have /proc/bus/usb but no devices file in that dir
[01:06] <applemilk> how can i check to make sure i did get this though? so i dont get te warning again
[01:06] <thinkmassive> my usb dvd and hdd work fine
[01:06] <adude> how do i view my windows partition.
[01:07] <applemilk> E: Couldn't find package mtasc
[01:07] <applemilk> i need mtasc
[01:08] <zoredache> !ntfs | adude
[01:09] <Stroganoff> thinkmassive try "lsusb" instead of "cat /proc/usb..."
[01:09] <thinkmassive> I did, it doesn't give the strings I need (Vendor and ProdID)
[01:09] <thinkmassive> is the proc file just outdated?
[01:10] <thinkmassive> ah ha! hwinfo --usb worked :)
[01:10] <applemilk> grr i have to get mtasc i'll be back brb
[01:10] <applemilk> how do i get myself an away message here?
[01:11] <Stroganoff> /away brb church
[01:13] <thinkmassive> there's actually a parameter in wvdial.conf called "Stupid Mode"
[01:14] <applemilk> oh
[01:14] <applemilk> okay back well
[01:14] <applemilk> it's precompiled
[01:14] <applemilk> i'm not that familiar with this so how do i open it?
[01:18] <applemilk> when i right click and select "execute" nothing happens
[01:20] <applemilk> i'll do ./configure first
[01:20] <magic_ninja> !md5
[01:20] <Stroganoff> extract it to /opt/mtasc/ and (maybe) point the gnash configure file to that path
[01:21] <applemilk> how
[01:21] <applemilk> since all i know is to just cd to the gnash directory and do ./configure so i dont kjnow hot to do that ;p[
[01:21] <applemilk> :P    *
[01:22] <Stroganoff> sudo mkdir /opt/mtasc
[01:22] <Stroganoff> sudo tar xf mtasc-1.12-linux.tgz -C /opt/mtasc
[01:23] <applemilk> libming-dev
[01:23] <applemilk>  didnt even install
[01:23] <applemilk> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/libming-dev
[01:24] <applemilk> lucky
[01:25] <applemilk> it says same version is already installed
[01:27] <applemilk> in synaptic when i look f or libming i see the ones i need already installed :( i'll try the other packages first then
[01:29] <AlexCONRAD> hum, I can't figure out how to boot from that usb cd-rom correctly... any hints ?
[01:30] <AlexCONRAD> what could I pass to the kernel to load a non-ide cdrom ?
[01:35] <applemilk> if gnash doesnt work i'll try swfdec and use an older version of gnash for ads and school work (my school site is flash...........agggggg)
[01:41] <applemilk> i found mtasc
[01:41] <applemilk> but not for debian
[01:42] <applemilk> i mean
[01:42] <applemilk> dapper
[01:42] <applemilk> dunno why i thought said debian. but does that mean i cant use gnash then?
[02:06] <applemilk> ahh i need help getting three packages when compiling gnash
[02:06] <applemilk> ,....on dapper
[02:07] <lc2> waaatt
[02:07] <applemilk> wat
[02:07] <lc2> why are you compiling gnash
[02:07] <applemilk> because
[02:08] <applemilk> i'm on dapper
[02:08] <lc2> y r u on dapper lols
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> applemilk You were banned in Ubuntu for a reason...
[02:08] <applemilk> what
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> John
[02:08] <applemilk> dont go offtopic dude
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> For your "Room-mates" antics
[02:09] <applemilk> what?
[02:09] <applemilk> rude
[02:09] <applemilk> i dont have time for you dont bother me
[02:09] <Jack_Sparrow> I can pull up the log from ops earlier
[02:10] <applemilk> dude get out
[02:10]  * cody-somerville coughs.
[02:11] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[02:11] <applemilk> ignoring you
[02:11] <applemilk> dont bother me
[02:11] <cody-somerville> applemilk, What packages are you trying to get?
[02:11] <applemilk> well
[02:11]  * lc2 hums/sings..."and we should...all...just get...along"
[02:11] <applemilk> three of them
[02:11] <applemilk> hold on
[02:11] <applemilk> ming, mtasc  and uhh
[02:11] <applemilk> swfmill
[02:11] <applemilk> swfc i mean
[02:11] <applemilk> i'll use the pastebin hold on
[02:11] <applemilk> paste.ubuntu.com/17029/
[02:12] <applemilk> ignore the "Bababooey" i didnt kjnow what to put there :P
[02:14] <lc2> those are warnings, not errors, can't you just ignore them?
[02:14] <applemilk> well
[02:14] <applemilk> when i go to make it
[02:14] <applemilk> i get an error
[02:15] <applemilk> let me find it hold on
[02:15] <applemilk> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[02:15] <applemilk> make[2]: *** [libgnashbase.la] Error 1
[02:15] <applemilk> make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/john/Desktop/gnash-0.8.2/libbase'
[02:15] <applemilk> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
[02:15] <applemilk> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/john/Desktop/gnash-0.8.2'
[02:15] <applemilk> make: *** [all] Error 2
[02:15] <applemilk> oops
[02:15] <applemilk> but yeah there it is
[02:16] <cody-somerville> That isn't caused by not having those applications installed
[02:16] <applemilk> oh
[02:16] <applemilk> why is it caused
[02:16] <cody-somerville> I would ask in #gnash
[02:16] <cody-somerville> They're better equipped to help you
[02:16] <applemilk> oh i didnt know there was a channel
[02:16] <applemilk> okay thanks
[02:16] <lc2> applemilk: you cut off your paste just after the part that would actually tell you what's wrong
[02:17] <applemilk> ohhh
[02:17] <applemilk>  okay hold on
[02:18] <applemilk> actually that was it
[02:18] <applemilk> before i was taken back to the.. terminal thing
[02:18] <applemilk> hold on let me use pastebin
[02:19] <natjo> would having very little space on your HD prevent a person from installing xubuntu?
[02:19] <applemilk> not at all
[02:19] <applemilk> ihave 8gb
[02:19] <natjo> i have 1.2
[02:20] <applemilk> woo at least i have a bigger hard drive for once :P
[02:20] <applemilk> than someone i mean
[02:20] <applemilk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17055/
[02:20] <applemilk> theres the entire thing
[02:20] <applemilk> well hold on natjo
[02:21] <applemilk> Xubuntu can be installed with one of 2 CDs, both requiring at least 1.5GB of hard drive space. Installing with the Desktop CD requires 192 MB of RAM, while the Alternate CD (which uses a text based installer), requires 64 MB of RAM, and also allows access to additional options for the installation.[2]
[02:21] <applemilk> ooh...
[02:21] <lc2> applemilk: whoah
[02:21] <applemilk> what
[02:21] <lc2> why are you compiling with -nostdlib?
[02:22] <natjo> i have no problem deleting stuff because i have an external hd so i need to delete some stuff
[02:22] <lc2> that's what's causing the linker errors
[02:22] <applemilk> i have no idea, lc2
[02:22] <applemilk> i mean i just type ./configure
[02:22] <applemilk> then "make"
[02:22] <lc2> applemilk: try: make LDFLAGS+="-lstdc++"
[02:22] <lc2> or figure out why it's adding -nostdlib because it shouldn't do that
[02:23] <applemilk> i used the command
[02:23] <applemilk> hope this wokrs
[02:23] <applemilk> and for natjo, i'll tell you how mnuch xubuntu uses on this
[02:24] <applemilk> actually now i dont know
[02:24] <applemilk> how big of a hard drive you got?
[02:25] <natjo> what happens is i choose install and the white screen things shows up with install and it stayed like that for 1.5 hours and nothing happened and i just deleted some stuff and now have 4.6GB
[02:25] <applemilk> you deleted stuff afterwards?
[02:26] <natjo> no i just did right now
[02:26] <applemilk> did the white screen come up when you had 1.2gb or did you just do it now after clearing space?
[02:27] <natjo> applemilk: call me a retard and push me down i haven't even thought of that
[02:27] <natjo> well i'm off to try again
[02:27] <applemilk> lol
[02:27] <applemilk> okay figured that'd be the case
[02:30]  * applemilk prefers xchat
[02:31]  * lc2 prefers irssi
[02:55] <applemilk> i need perl-XML-Parser but i cant find it in synaptic
[03:39] <vdozen> hello i need info on how to set up home network
[04:22] <natjo> is there a different way to install xubuntu with a cd than the way it's trying to do now?
[04:22] <natjo> because i'm still stuck at the orange bird with a white window with install on top that does nothing for hours
[04:22] <natjo> and i've tried this at least 5 times
[04:23] <natjo> i only have 256 MB of ram and 25GB of HD available
[04:23] <lc2> are you sure it's not a bad CD?
[04:23] <natjo> this is the second one
[04:24] <applemilk> i had a blackj screen and i did ctrl alt f1..:(
[04:24] <applemilk> for terminal
[04:24] <lc2> natjo: oh :\
[04:24] <lc2> natjo: have you checked the MD5 sum of your ISO?
[04:24] <natjo> i didn't know i was suppose to
[04:24] <lc2> natjo: you normally don't have to
[04:25] <lc2> natjo: i can only suppose a problem with the installation media, though
[04:26] <natjo> i'm just really really frustrated at it right now
[04:27] <applemilk> what option you chose?
[04:27] <applemilk> when you put the disc in and terminal and all
[04:28] <natjo> what i'm doing is restarting windows with the disc in when the xubuntu thing comes up i choose install
[04:28] <natjo> and then it just sits there and does nothing
[04:29] <applemilk> wait do you get a terminal or not?
[04:29] <applemilk> just wondering
[04:29] <natjo> i don't get nothing but that white window with install on top
[04:29] <lc2> applemilk: ? the cd never boots into a terminal
[04:29] <applemilk> oh
[04:29] <applemilk> mine did
[04:29] <applemilk> :P
[04:29] <lc2> natjo: does X start or not?
[04:29] <applemilk> cause i'm on ppc just wondering for najto
[04:30] <natjo> lc2: what do you mean when i try to test xubuntu out?
[04:30] <applemilk> since i would think najto would have to do nosplash if it was a termanl
[04:30] <lc2> natjo: yes
[04:31] <applemilk> terminal^ and
[04:31] <lc2> natjo: does it make it as far as the GUI?
[04:31] <applemilk> so you say white and install?
[04:31] <natjo> yeah i can test it out but it really doesn't do anything
[04:31] <natjo> the mouse moves but i can't open anything
[04:31] <lc2> natjo: you might want to try the alternate install disk, then
[04:32] <natjo> alternate install disk okay and is that in the same place i found this iso i burned?
[04:32] <applemilk> yup
[04:32] <applemilk> should be
[04:32] <lc2> natjo: yes
[04:33] <lc2> natjo: will you be dual-booting?
[04:33] <natjo> no i want to get rid of windows
[04:33] <applemilk> good choice
[04:34] <lc2> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/8.04/release/xubuntu-8.04-alternate-i386.iso
[04:34] <lc2> is what you want
[04:34] <natjo> thanks lc2
[04:34] <natjo> and downloading
[04:35] <lc2> kay
[04:36] <natjo> this alternate won't be any different looking once installed than the desktop cd?
[04:36] <lc2> natjo: nope
[04:37] <lc2> it just gives you a text-based installer which can't go wrong
[04:51] <lc2> (inb4 it going wrong)
[04:56] <applemilk> wat
[04:57]  * applemilk finds a piece of my own hair in my mouth 
[04:58] <lc2> nice.
[04:58] <applemilk> long hair :P
[04:59] <lc2> apparently
[04:59]  * applemilk is listening to Contra remixes while waiting for Pidgin to do it's think
[04:59] <applemilk> ugh
[04:59] <applemilk> finally got help from the slow IRCs
[05:28] <vdozen> hello
[05:29] <vdozen> i need help regarding home networking
[05:29] <vdozen> i need to have access to my files on another xubuntu machine on same router how could i do that?
[05:32] <zoredache> so you have two linux boxes?
[05:36] <The-Kernel> applemilk well, join the #complaint_department channel
[05:36] <zoredache> anyway the simple way would be to setup ssh on both and use sshfs to remotely mount things
[05:37] <applemilk> what
[05:37] <applemilk> why
[05:37] <zoredache> vdozen: you could also work on setting up either nfs or samba.
[05:37] <applemilk> i dont have a complaint
[05:37] <applemilk> :P i got pidgin wokring thanks to the fast ircs,
[05:37] <applemilk> the slow part was a joke
[05:38] <The-Kernel> so was my part :P
[05:38] <applemilk> wha...
[05:38] <applemilk> dont scare me
[05:38] <applemilk> ;_;
[05:45] <vdozen> yes i have 2 linux boxes
[05:46] <vdozen> tired of windows .. needed to try something new and xubuntu on my pc is way faster than windows
[05:52] <applemilk> i want a lintop
[05:53] <applemilk> they're real linux boxes because they're literally a small box with no moving parts :P
[05:54] <Odd-rationale> but don't you think they are a bit over priced for what you get/
[05:54] <Odd-rationale> ?
[05:55] <applemilk> how much
[05:55] <applemilk> looking
[05:56] <applemilk> 250.00EUR
[05:56] <applemilk> how much is that in american money?
[05:56] <Odd-rationale> idk..
[05:57] <applemilk> gonna conovert
[05:57] <applemilk> 385 american moolah
[05:57] <applemilk> oh that's just bull :(
[05:58] <Odd-rationale> yeah, that is a bit too much for me... :)
[05:58] <applemilk> hey guys look at my 380 dollar computer!
[05:58] <Odd-rationale> how much disk space do you get for that?
[05:58] <applemilk> 1GB! :D
[05:58] <lc2> haha
[05:58] <applemilk> can i store all my music on it?
[05:58] <applemilk> NO but look how tiny it is!
[05:58] <lc2> yay welcome to 1996
[05:58] <applemilk> just like the macbook air
[05:58] <applemilk> can it run crysis? no but look at it fit in this envelope1
[05:59] <applemilk> i'd  like to see someone bring that at a lan party
[05:59] <lc2> can you do anything useful with it? no, but look at how cute it is, awwww!
[05:59] <applemilk> with the lintop it's a nice small computer if you have 385 dollars to spare
[05:59] <applemilk> people are stupid these days
[06:00] <applemilk> they act like they need an incredibly tiyn laptop as if over 3 pounds is heavy
[06:00] <Odd-rationale> it should be100 USD or less....
[06:00] <applemilk> alotless
[06:00] <applemilk> you can pick up an incredibly cheap older computer with the same specs and install linux just fine
[06:01] <Odd-rationale> i mean, you can get 1 gb of flash for like 12 bucks
[06:01] <applemilk> or cheaper
[06:01] <applemilk> i got 2gb for 14
[06:01] <Odd-rationale> you could probably get all the parts (and better ones) for like 50 bucks...
[06:02] <applemilk> before i left it in my pocket, my mom washed it and it was broken
[06:02] <applemilk> definitely
[06:02] <applemilk> i'd get an ipaq
[06:02] <Odd-rationale> i did that...
[06:02] <applemilk> those small compaq computers
[06:02] <Odd-rationale> but mine still works! ;)
[06:02] <applemilk> I HATE YOU ;_;
[06:02] <applemilk> you ever heard of an ipaq?
[06:02] <applemilk> they're small
[06:02] <Odd-rationale> even all the data was still on it..
[06:02] <applemilk> not ipaq but i dont know what thye're called
[06:02] <Odd-rationale> no i havent...
[06:03] <applemilk> it's a small internet capable compaq computer
[06:03] <applemilk> not sold anymore but it has the right specs for linux
[06:03] <applemilk> like a lintop
[06:03] <Odd-rationale> i saw a review of the linutop at the linuxjournal and it doesn't even have a power switch, you have to unplug it.. :|
[06:03] <applemilk> LOL ROFL
[06:03] <applemilk> talk about green
[06:04] <applemilk> i'd get a macbook if i had money to spare
[06:04] <applemilk> the macbook air
[06:05] <applemilk> i'd just love having an incredibly small overpriced limited computer
[06:05] <Odd-rationale> my only problem with mac is that i don't think i can ever get used to having only one mouse button...
[06:05] <applemilk> there's onlyone?!
[06:05] <applemilk> eek
[06:05] <applemilk> :(
[06:05] <Odd-rationale> you didn't know that?!
[06:05] <applemilk> No1
[06:05] <applemilk> :(
[06:05] <Odd-rationale> apple has only a single mouse button. no right-click...
[06:06] <applemilk> that's saddd :(
[06:06] <Odd-rationale> you have to do shift click or something...
[06:06] <applemilk> connect an external mouse
[06:06] <applemilk> i hahve that on tihs imac
[06:06] <applemilk> when i had osx it worked
[06:06] <Odd-rationale> but the touchpad of mac's are cool
[06:06] <applemilk> apple has no idea what to say for their macbook air
[06:06] <applemilk> all they can say is
[06:06] <applemilk> ultra thin
[06:06] <applemilk> ultra portable
[06:06] <applemilk> ultra unlike anything else
[06:07] <applemilk> ultra portable? laptops are as portable as can be
[06:07] <applemilk> thin? there you go. unlike anything else? my mom's hp can upgrade RAm
[06:08] <applemilk> i'm gonna go get gnash working
[06:23] <DaveKong> I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/17103/ when I visit www.goproblems.com and try to load a problem... I am running java6 anyone know what may be going on?
[06:24] <lc2> wtf.
[06:25] <DaveKong> My thoughts exactly
[06:26] <lc2> i have no idea
[06:37] <applemilk> I need help. I ran "./configure" when trying to compile gnash on my Xubuntu Dapper ppc and got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17106/
[06:41] <applemilk> ./join #xbox
[06:41] <applemilk> oops
[06:42] <applemilk> wrong server tab to type that one
[06:51] <lc2> wow, deja vu
[06:52] <Myrtti> good morning
[06:52] <applemilk> Hello
[06:53] <applemilk> Its night for me here :P
[07:30] <MaxFrames> hello
[07:30] <lc2> ohai
[07:30] <zoredache> !hi
[07:31] <MaxFrames> I need some help using the Shared Folders functionality (to share data with a Windows workstation)
[07:31] <MaxFrames> I have shared a folder on my Xubuntu PC, and when I try to connect to it from Windows, I am asked for a username and a password
[07:31] <MaxFrames> I type in the username and password of my Xubuntu user, and it is not accepted
[07:32] <zoredache> you may need to set the samba password
[07:32] <MaxFrames> how do I do it?
[07:33] <zoredache> in a terminal run 'smbpasswd'
[07:34] <MaxFrames> mm... I got a strange error
[07:34] <MaxFrames> it asked me for the old password and (twice) for a new password, and then this error came out;
[07:35] <MaxFrames> "could not connect to machine 127.0.0.1: nt_status_logon_failure"
[07:35] <MaxFrames> maybe because I got the old password wrong?
[07:35] <zoredache> try 'sudo smbpasswd username' replace with your username of course
[07:36] <MaxFrames> ok, this time it did not complain :)
[07:36] <MaxFrames> let's see if windows can access the share now
[07:40] <MaxFrames> success! thank you very much :)
[07:43] <MaxFrames> just a question: in Shared Folders, in the Users tab, there is a long list of users that can access the share (me, and several others like bin, nobody, lp, ircd, messagebus etc)
[07:43] <MaxFrames> does this mean that all these users can access the shares? do they need to type the same smb password I just set?
[07:44] <lc2> no, smbpasswd only sets it for one user
[07:44] <MaxFrames> so I should uncheck all those users?
[07:44] <zoredache> only users that have an smbpasswd set will have acces (in the default config)
[07:44] <lc2> MaxFrames: in the interests of good form, yes
[07:44] <MaxFrames> (what are those user accounts anyway?)
[07:44] <lc2> MaxFrames: pseudo-users for various services
[07:45] <lc2> MaxFrames: except "nobody", that is a user that should never have any privileges at all on a system
[07:48] <lc2> MaxFrames: they exist so that those services can run with the minimal amount of privileges necessary, e.g. an irc server will run as ircd, and ircd will only be owner of files necessary for an irc server to run
[07:49] <MaxFrames> I see
[07:49] <MaxFrames> though I don't understand why those users should be able to access a smb share
[07:49] <lc2> MaxFrames: they shouldn't
[07:50] <MaxFrames> I unchecked them... strange, they were enabled by default
[07:51] <lc2> MaxFrames: i don't think it could do any harm with them being able to access it, because they don't even have passwords on the system
[07:51] <lc2> MaxFrames: but not allowing them to is good form, i.e. healthy paranoia
[07:57] <Myrtti> iirc samba printing uses might have something to do with lp having rights to a samba share
[08:02] <Myrtti> I like brasero a lot
[08:05]  * lc2 doesn't even have a cd drive
[08:08] <Valsum> Morning.
[08:08] <lc2> morning
[08:08] <lc2> and
[08:08] <lc2> goodbye!
[08:08] <lc2> :D
[08:10] <applemilk> lolwat
[08:12] <Valsum> hehe
[08:15] <applemilk> is there a way to install debian on this (xubuntu dapper.. on ppc) without a cd or anything? live install.........or whatever>?
[08:15] <Myrtti> how come?
[08:16] <applemilk> since debian still supports ppc
[08:16] <applemilk> oficially i mean
[08:17] <applemilk> and i wanna see if it'll be better for me than this
[08:19] <Valsum> I'm new to this world, and just know xubuntu...sorry I can't help
[08:24] <applemilk> aw
[08:24] <applemilk> hm
[08:24] <applemilk> well i dont have a flash drive so that's not an option
[09:07] <applemilk> i have a dvd player on my imac g3
[09:07] <applemilk> i have xubuntu dapper
[09:07] <applemilk> how do i get it working?
[09:07] <applemilk> vlc doesnt seem to play it
[09:11] <ablomen> applemilk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-ade7b6cc5a280ee943fd7884cf7dc49ebe7e22ca
[09:12] <applemilk> Thank you. :)
[09:13] <ablomen> yw, hope it works for ppc ;)
[09:13] <applemilk> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:13] <applemilk> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:13] <applemilk> is only available from another source
[09:13] <applemilk> E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[09:13] <applemilk> john@john-desktop:~/Desktop/agg-2.5$
[09:14] <applemilk> Oops copied more than supposed to oh well lol
[09:14] <ablomen> the /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh script said that?
[09:15] <applemilk> i did it from terminal
[09:15] <ablomen> yeah but did you run that script or just tried to install libdvdcss2?
[09:15] <applemilk> i tried to run libdvdcss2 through terminal
[09:16] <ablomen> ah, you have to look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#head-e3dafb305e64ec576176ee706e287bb4d839cb12 and search for "If you are using Ubuntu 6.06 "Dapper Drake": "
[09:17] <applemilk> okay
[09:19] <applemilk> thats what i did
[09:19] <ablomen> oh
[09:19] <applemilk> vlc doesnt play this family guy dvd :(
[09:19] <applemilk> i'mma try again
[09:19] <applemilk> nope
[09:20] <ablomen> you can try looking here >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[09:20] <ablomen> lots of codecs in there
[09:20] <ablomen> also libdvdcss2 i think
[09:20] <applemilk> k
[09:21] <ablomen> so try adding that repository and then run the script again, that should do it :)
[09:22] <applemilk> okay
[09:24] <applemilk> nope :(
[09:24] <applemilk> i should try mplayer
[09:25] <ablomen> hmm ok try this: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[09:26] <applemilk> ok
[09:28] <applemilk> nope
[09:29] <ablomen> hmm, well im out of ideas, sorry
[09:29] <applemilk> i used to use totem on ubuntu
[09:29] <applemilk> any way to get it on xubuntu?
[09:30] <applemilk> got it
[09:30] <applemilk> gonna try dvds
[09:30] <applemilk> Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it.
[09:38] <liassist> is xubuntu good for my laptop??(my system is 256mb ram 1.4ghz processer and 64mb vram)(iam new to linux)(what version will be best,) mostly i want a nice and good DE and WM with menu's and all stuff like gnome (not gnome!!) (i need a good distro for this configuration)
[09:39] <applemilk> liassist: yes
[09:40] <applemilk> this is what you'relooking for
[09:40] <applemilk> you want something like gnome but NOT gnome.. menus, etc
[09:40] <applemilk> that's xfce in a sentence
[09:40] <applemilk> and i'm running this on an imac g3 with lower specs than your laptop fine so yours will definitely run. :D
[09:42] <liassist> hey what about the live cd??
[09:42] <applemilk> yup
[09:42] <applemilk> livecd works
[09:42] <liassist> thankx
[09:42] <applemilk> yw :)
[09:53] <Fabouney> hi
[09:55] <applemilk> i need help.totem gives me this error:
[09:55] <applemilk> Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it.
[09:56] <TheSheep> !dvd
[09:57] <applemilk> i did that
[09:57] <applemilk> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-gl sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-base sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-good sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[09:57] <applemilk> i have to get that apparently
[09:57] <applemilk> then i get this: gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[09:58] <applemilk> E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.10-pitfdll
[09:58] <applemilk>  i mean
[09:58] <TheSheep> !repos
[10:00] <Myrtti> applemilk: there's a list of the mirrors on th bottom of the page
[10:00] <Myrtti> aaaaannnnd why are you trying to do it like that?
[10:00] <applemilk> like what
[10:00] <Myrtti> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg etc
[10:00] <Myrtti> would be nice
[10:01] <Myrtti> you don't have to say sudo aptget install all the time
[10:01] <applemilk> no i mean
[10:01] <applemilk> i pasted that from the site
[10:03] <applemilk> i'll do them one at a time since i found one
[10:06] <applemilk> got them
[10:07] <applemilk> i still get the error. the mirrors are at the bottom of what page? i'm gonna try em
[10:07] <Myrtti> !dvd
[10:08] <Myrtti>  (for Feisty and earlier)
[10:08] <Myrtti>                   http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:08] <applemilk> oh ok
[10:14] <applemilk> i dont even know what i'm looking for
[10:15] <applemilk> http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/dapper-seveas/all/ is the mirror i'm looking at and libdvd2css isn't even for ppc
[10:23] <applemilk> ugh
[10:23] <applemilk> is debian a good choice for me?
[10:25] <applemilk> i'll install debian later. for now i'll just do something else.
[10:44] <Fabouney> pk ctrl+alt+space fonctionne pas ?
[10:44] <Fabouney> ca ne redémarre pas X server
[10:56] <TheSheep> !fr | Fabouney
[10:57] <Fabouney> sorry dude :(
[10:57] <TheSheep> are you sure you don't mean alt+ctrl+backspace
[10:59] <Fabouney> i have installed the eeeXubuntu distrib on my eee PC, all function seem work perfectly, the touchpad too, but when i whant access to the Gsynaptics to configure my touchpad i have this error ("you have to set SHMConfig "true" in you xorg.conf) i have do it, but not works, after i have check the log of worgs and i can see this strange message : "Synaptics touchpad no synaptics event device found (checked 18 nodes),
[11:01] <TheSheep> Fabouney: laptops sometimes have some key combination for disabling the touchpad, it's as if you unplugged it
[11:04] <Fabouney> i not understand what you say, can you explain better TheSheep (im french i need more explination) lol
[11:04] <Fabouney> sorry
[11:05] <Fabouney> can i fix this problem easily ?
[11:08] <TheSheep> Fabouney: refer to the manual of your eee pc and see if there is some key combination that enables the touchpad
[11:09] <Fabouney> my touchpad works
[11:09] <Fabouney> i can use it !
[11:09] <Fabouney> lol
[11:09] <TheSheep> ah, then maybe it's not a synaptics touchpad? :/
[11:09] <Fabouney> but i can't configure it using Gsynaptics
[11:09] <Fabouney> yes
[11:09] <TheSheep> I don't know what they put into eee
[11:09] <Fabouney> but how i can see info on my touchpad
[11:10] <Fabouney> in my xorg.conf i have the section "Synaptic touchpad"
[11:11] <TheSheep> you can put anything you want in that file, it doesn't mean you have it though
[11:12] <Fabouney> how i can get info on my touchpad ?
[11:12] <TheSheep> lspci or hwinfo
[11:12] <TheSheep> lsusb too
[14:37] <AlexCONRAD> zoredache: around ?
[14:38] <AlexCONRAD> zoredache: I have a question regarding preseed. I have the following answer to a question "cdrom-detect/cdrom_module=cdrom". But this doesn't seem to work. The type of the response is a "select", any idea if it should be treated differently that strings / booleans ?
[15:33] <Fabouney> i have done a dpkg --configure -a and my xubuntu was replaced by an ubuntu distrib, why ?
[15:33] <Fabouney> if everytime that i want update my xubuntu distrib, system replace it by ubuntu, it sucks ! :(
[15:47] <aanderse> has anyone here used windows vista?
[15:49] <TheSheep> aanderse: yes, but you can get much better help at ##windows
[15:49] <aanderse> lol
[15:49] <aanderse> not asking for help :p
[15:49] <aanderse> at work... been using it there for a little bit now
[15:50] <aanderse> just wanted to know if anyone had used it... because there's actually 1 positive feature about it
[15:50] <aanderse> that i thought ubuntu might benefit from if they were to implement, maybe
[15:51] <Myrtti> which is?
[15:51] <TheSheep> vista has many positive features
[15:51] <TheSheep> for exmaple excellent fonts
[15:51] <aanderse> well when something isn't working with the computer, say like a driver isn't installed, something isn't functioning correctly, crash, etc...
[15:52] <aanderse> a little helper application tries to solve the problem for me
[15:52] <aanderse> it connects to the net and fetches new "solutions"
[15:52] <aanderse> now ubuntu has pretty great support through forums and such
[15:52] <aanderse> only if an application could tap into that resource
[15:53] <aanderse> might make it easier for some people
[15:53]  * aanderse shrugs
[15:53] <TheSheep> ubuntu has that crash reporter
[15:53] <aanderse> yeah, and that's definitely in the same direction
[15:54] <aanderse> anywho, just thought i'd throw that out there
[15:55] <aanderse> so big meeting in 2 weeks?
[15:55] <TheSheep> aanderse: I think there is some brainstorming page for ubuntu
[15:56] <TheSheep> http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/
[15:56] <aanderse> :)
[16:11] <freex> hi all!
[16:31] <natjo> um quick question how do i get back the bars at the top and bottom?
[16:35] <TheSheep> natjo: alt+f2 and type xfce4-panel
[16:35] <AlexCONRAD> hi, I remastered a CD, and during the installation, I'm getting a "detecting concentrators for eth0" regarding PPPoE. This is something I didn't have before, any idea what would cause this ?
[16:36] <natjo> TheSheep: thanks a million
[16:44] <natjo> so what is a useful media player that can handle a really really big library of music?
[16:45] <y4ndexx> Amarok, they say. But I would use foobar2000 in wine.
[16:48] <natjo> is amarok last.fm compatible?
[16:50] <y4ndexx> I can't say for sure, but I think yes, and foobar2000 is 100% compatible.
[16:51] <Myrtti> exaile ♥
[16:56] <thinkmassive> some of my Applications->Settings and Applications->System menu items seem to have disappeared, I think it coincides with installation of compiz fusion
[16:57] <thinkmassive> Printing and Autostarted app's are nowhere to be found
[16:58] <thinkmassive> errr doh, I just found printing, but where is autostarted app's supposed to be in 8.04?
[17:10] <SabreWolfy> Any suggestions regard the xfce4-mixer high cpu usage issue ?
[17:15] <zoredache> of what issue do you speak?
[17:15] <Riotta> I think it's caused by alsa
[17:15] <Riotta> update it manually /compile & stuff
[17:15] <SabreWolfy> idling machine doing nothing, but xfce-mixer-plu using CPU
[17:15] <Riotta> it's bug in alsa kinda
[17:15] <SabreWolfy> sometimes up to 80% cpu, then comes down, but usually sits around 4% -- it's at the top when I do "top"
[17:16] <SabreWolfy> ah alsa -- ok -- tried to remove it but then xubuntu-desktop was going to be removed too
[17:16] <SabreWolfy>   /clear
[17:16] <SabreWolfy> so I just live with it for now ?
[17:16] <SabreWolfy> kinda irritating on a machine I'm sorta using as a "server"
[17:17] <zoredache> you need sound on a server?
[17:17] <SabreWolfy> nope -- that's why I wanted to remove xfce-mixer but xubuntu-desktop was gonna go too
[17:17] <SabreWolfy> can I just remove alsa packages ?
[17:17] <Riotta> if you will do so
[17:17] <Riotta> you will have no sound
[17:17] <SabreWolfy> alsa-base and alsa-utils
[17:18] <Riotta> alsa are sound drivers
[17:18] <SabreWolfy> yea no problem; it's a machine that's a little server so no need for sound
[17:18] <Riotta> you can compile alsa by yourself and it will not overwrite alsa but it will be used and old alsa not
[17:18] <SabreWolfy> nope -- trying to remove alsa also will remove xubuntu-desktop package
[17:18] <Riotta> if it's a server why it's running xfce anyway ?
[17:19] <SabreWolfy> oh -- don't really want to compile stuff!
[17:19] <Riotta> it should be textbased only it would not use any resources except
[17:19] <Riotta> for the daemons which you run on it
[17:19] <SabreWolfy> heheheeheheh it's an old desktop machine, and I like xfce
[17:19] <Riotta> ah
[17:19] <SabreWolfy> but it could be text-based yes
[17:19] <SabreWolfy> how do I boot into text without any gui ?
[17:20] <Riotta> ctrl+alt+f1 for example or change runlevels
[17:20] <SabreWolfy> altho things like sharing a printer will be a pain without a gui !!
[17:20] <Riotta> ye
[17:20] <Riotta> it will in some cases
[17:20] <SabreWolfy> yea but to ALWAYS boot into text mode? I'll google it I guess
[17:20] <Riotta> you can try disabling mixer tho
[17:20] <SabreWolfy> ok how do I disable it ?
[17:20] <Riotta> just remove it from the panel ? or something
[17:21] <Riotta> or uninstall it in synaptic
[17:21] <SabreWolfy> oh ok yes I'll try that; you tried fluxbuntu ?
[17:21] <Riotta> nope
[17:21] <Riotta> I had fluxbox for sometime on other linux
[17:21] <Riotta> tho
[17:22] <SabreWolfy> on an aside note -- Linux generally impresses me so much compared to W*ndows; I have a ssh connection open sharing X to the "server" so I can just load synaptic from the machine I am on; nice
[17:22] <Riotta> yea
[17:22] <Riotta> I know what you mean by that
[17:23] <SabreWolfy> :)
[17:24] <SabreWolfy> shweet -- simply removing "volume control" applet from the panel seems to have sorted it !!
[17:27] <natjo> what is the equivalent of My Documents in X?
[17:27] <zoredache> natjo: nothing
[17:27] <zoredache> X doesn't know anything about user folders.  It closer to being a desktop issue for Thunar/Natulus
[17:28] <natjo> okay so i just make my own folders and copy all my stuff into it like its my documents?
[17:28] <thinkmassive> or your home folder
[17:29] <Myrtti> natjo: are you talking about X or xubuntu?
[17:29] <zoredache> In Thunar really your home directory is what you get by default.  I personally create a folder named 'Documents" under my home dir and then create a shortcut
[17:29] <Myrtti> /me is confused
[17:29] <cody-somerville> Congratz Myrtti for your membership :)
[17:30] <Myrtti> thanks :-)
[17:30] <natjo> Myrtti: me and you both my total time on this thing is less than 2 hours
[17:30] <cody-somerville> Myrtti, It is much deserved :)
[17:30] <Myrtti> speaking of which
[17:30] <zoredache> you said 'X' I thought you where talking about xorg which doesn't know or care about document folders
[17:30] <Myrtti> cody-somerville: may I pm you?
[17:30] <cody-somerville> Myrtti, certainly
[17:30] <natjo> i didn't know the difference between X and xubuntu
[17:31] <natjo> sorry
[17:31] <zoredache> natjo: no worries... :)
[17:33] <SabreWolfy> what about /home/user/Documents ? :)
[17:35] <natjo> i just made a folder on the desktop named Documents. the reason i asked is with windows certain programs always look in my documents
[17:36] <zoredache> pretty much everything on linux will default to your home directory so (/home/user)
[17:39] <SabreWolfy> there should already be a /home/user folder
[17:39] <SabreWolfy> and under that is Documents which many programs default to
[18:27] <darkcrab> hello?
[18:27] <Odd-rationale> !hi | darkcrab
[18:28] <darkcrab> i was wondering, i installed xubuntu, and I love it, but the default install uses the same about of ram as the default ubuntu hardy install.
[18:28] <darkcrab> and I thought xubuntu was suppose to be a lightweight desktop alternative
[18:29] <zoredache> it is leightweightish... but it is more about being xfce then being leightweight
[18:30] <Myrtti> if you want to tune it to be more light weight, then there's plenty of choices you can make
[18:30] <Odd-rationale> some of the default apps are lighter. thunar < nautilus
[18:30] <Myrtti> I switched ff3 to epiphany and I'm loving it
[18:30] <Odd-rationale> me too
[18:31] <Myrtti> claws-mail is actually better to my opinion than thunderbird
[18:31] <Odd-rationale> hey, me too!
[18:31] <Odd-rationale> i bet you don't you weechat... ;)
[18:31] <Odd-rationale> use
[18:31] <Myrtti> no, I'm using even more lightweight solution
[18:31] <darkcrab> ok so you actually find epiphany to be more stable
[18:31] <Myrtti> yup
[18:32] <darkcrab> i do find that system to be a lot faster, so yes, i do see your point
[18:32] <Myrtti> Odd-rationale: ssh + screen + irssi, IM's are ssh + screen + irssi + bitlbee :-P
[18:32] <Myrtti> and for heavy weight apps...
[18:33] <Odd-rationale> what makes irssi lighter than weechat?
[18:33] <Myrtti> the act that I'm running it on a totally different system
[18:33] <Myrtti> s/act/fact/
[18:34] <Myrtti> though I guess weechat can be counted to be in the same category
[18:35] <spasticteapot> I've been having unusual crashes on my low-power Xubuntu box.
[18:35] <spasticteapot> Is there a way I can figure out what made it crash?
[18:35] <Myrtti> I swearz someone has substituted my fingers with carrots, the amount of typos I'm doing today...
[18:35] <Myrtti> I'm running apport to help find the bugs, you might find it useful too
[18:37] <darkcrab> i didnt realize that in hardy you no longer have to install the medibuntu repository and I already did. and I recently installed the xubuntu-restriced package. does it matter that I have both?
[18:37] <Odd-rationale> there is medibuntu fo hardy
[18:37] <Odd-rationale> and yes you can have both...
[18:37] <darkcrab> ok cool
[18:38] <Stroganoff> you need medibuntu for w32codecs
[18:39] <darkcrab> ah ok
[18:39] <spasticteapot> Myrtti: Aport?
[18:39] <darkcrab> well, I installed like the libdvd and the w32 from medibuntu
[18:39] <Myrtti> Apport
[18:39] <Myrtti> hold on
[18:40] <darkcrab> didnt have a clue there was a restricted package
[18:40] <darkcrab> and then when I foudn out there was one I installed that
[18:42] <Myrtti> spasticteapot: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed follow the part on "enabling apport" except that the first command should start with gconftool-2, not gconftool
[18:47] <spasticteapot> Myrtti: As soon as I can get Synaptic to run without crashing, I'll try it.
[18:47] <spasticteapot>  I still cannot figure out why Ubuntu has such a ludicrous update schedule.
[18:47] <spasticteapot> When you buy a copy of Windows, you can update for a period of three years.
[18:48] <Myrtti> yes?
[18:48] <spasticteapot> However, an ubuntu LTS generally will start running into nasty problems after one.
[18:49] <Stroganoff> !apt-get | spasticteapot
[18:49] <spasticteapot> I recall using 6.06. My laptop was riddled with problems until I started using 7.04.
[18:50] <spasticteapot> Stroganoff: I know how to use APT-GET. I do, however, prefer Synaptic.
[18:50] <spasticteapot> Mostly because I invariably manage to mess up the dependencies....
[18:52] <zoredache> mess up dependancies?  that is pretty tricky to do... apt usually deals with all that for you
[18:53] <spasticteapot> zoredache: I'll give it a shot.
[18:53] <spasticteapot> That said, I think it might just be a hardware problem.
[18:54] <spasticteapot> That said, it did show up after I installed a huge number of updates....
[18:54] <darkcrab> xubuntu only uses the LTS versions right?
[18:55] <darkcrab> so 6.06 and 8.04 are the only xubuntu versions
[18:55] <zoredache> darkcrab: not at all.. there where versions of xubuntu for 6.10,7.04, and 7.10
[18:56] <darkcrab> ok cool
[18:56] <darkcrab> must have overlooked them
[18:56] <zoredache> where are you looking?  Perhaps the older version where simply removed
[18:57] <darkcrab> well, on the xubuntu website I could have sworn it said only 6.06 LTS and 8.04 LTS
[18:57] <darkcrab> but I probably misread it
[18:59] <zoredache> darkcrab: if you are looking at the 'get xubuntu' section at the top of that page, that usually only shows the current version and the last lts
[19:00] <zoredache> if you look at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/ you can see cd images.
[19:03] <darkcrab> ah ok, that explains why then
[19:09] <darkcrab> have you guys heard of the openssl security vulnerability
[19:09] <Myrtti> who hasn't?
[19:10] <darkcrab> what is openssl used for
[19:10] <zoredache> it is a library called by almost everything that does encryption
[19:11] <zoredache> so ssh, https for web servers, ssl for many servers and so on
[19:12] <darkcrab> what risk does it pose for home users
[19:12] <zoredache> if you have generated any ssh keys or x.509 keys for authentication you need to revoke/replace them
[19:13] <darkcrab> kk
[19:14] <spasticteapot> Myrtti: What do I need to install to use apport?
[19:14] <zoredache> you'll also want to your host keys if you are running ssh.  But that will be handled automatically if/when install the updated ssl/ssh packages
[19:14] <spasticteapot> I'm giving this computer to someone who does not know anything about Linux, and I'd like to set it back to the default set of updates.
[19:15] <spasticteapot> Although, after the latest round of updates, it crashes before you can do anything anyway.
[19:16] <darkcrab> is there a reason you dont want to give them a fresh install, (trying not to sound stupid)
[19:17] <Myrtti> spasticteapot: basically apport, it does have some dependencies but they're pulled with apt-get
[19:32] <b1z4rr0> hi
[19:32] <b1z4rr0> hi
[19:32] <zoredache> !hi
[19:32] <b1z4rr0> ;)
[19:33] <b1z4rr0> i'm having some problems with the installation of programs
[19:34] <b1z4rr0> the mesage is: E: /root/.aptitude -mkdir (30 only reading system)
[19:34] <zoredache> and?
[19:36] <zoredache> how and what are you trying to install?
[19:37] <b1z4rr0> i'm trying to install some packae of openoffice
[19:38] <Myrtti> and how are you trying to do it?
[19:38] <Myrtti> where have you downloaded the openoffice?
[19:45] <spasticteapot> I have a rather unusual problem.
[19:45] <spasticteapot> I entered the key for my home wifi network into the Xubuntu "keyring", and would like to delete it before I give the computer to someone else.
[19:46] <spasticteapot> How do I do this?
[19:47] <zoredache> the keyrings are in ~/.gnome2/keyrings
[19:47] <zoredache> you can simply delete the file there if you like
[19:54] <Myrtti> or by clicking the applet with the right mouse button, edit wireless networks ...
[19:54] <Myrtti> and delete it from there
[19:55] <spasticteapot> zoredache: Thanks.
[20:07] <darkcrab> i think xubuntu uses gnome-keyring
[20:08] <lc2> it does
[21:53] <rivervalley> I have a total newbie question
[21:54] <rivervalley> i'm trying to set up record my desktop and get an error that says i need to configure my sound card.  their faq says try gnome-mixxer.  does this come preinstalled in gutsy?
[21:56] <TheSheep> rivervalley: no, you need to find it with synaptic and install
[21:56] <slow-motion> hi
[21:57] <ShiroUsagi> Hi, could anybody here help me? I`m having an annoying bug with Xfce, installed via xubuntu-desktop meta package over Ubuntu 8.04. After I log in, and just use it for something, e.g. browser open, xchat, terminal, jabber... Everything becomes unresponsive to mouse clicks and keyboard, although the pointer is still moving, and I can see windows updating (new chat messages, etc)...
[21:58] <rivervalley> @TheSheep ok, thanks. i know it seems obvious, but it's a friend's machine i'm using so i thought best to check first that i'm not missing something obvious.  thanks again
[21:58] <TheSheep> rivervalley: you can try alsmaixer in the terminal instead
[22:01] <eater> is there an easy way to use gnome-panel instead of xfce4-panel in xfce?
[22:03] <rivervalley> TheSheep: er, another basic question how do i run it from the command line?  also, it's alsamixer, right?
[22:04] <TheSheep> rivervalley: you open a terminal from your menu, it's in the accessories category
[22:04] <TheSheep> rivervalley: then you type the command, 'alsamixer' in this case, without the quotes
[22:04] <TheSheep> rivervalley: use arrows to control it, press esc to exit
[22:05] <TheSheep> eater: yes, install it, remove all panels and start the gnome one, then save the session when logging out
[22:05] <TheSheep> eater: uyou can also use the applets for the gnome panel in xfce panel, using the xfce-applet-plugin
[22:07] <eater> TheSheep: thanks, I'll try that
[22:12] <rivervalley> TheSheep:  Well, I was able to play around a bit with Alsamixer, but recordmydesktop is still giving me the same error message saying it can't open/configure the sound card.  I guess i'll try gnome mixxer
[22:20] <raul> hi
[22:20] <raul> how can i set the default configuration of xfce?
[22:29] <AlexCONRAD> hello, I'm setting up a system with preseeding, and I'd like to know if it's possible to catch and handle error messages? (with red background)
[22:35] <eater> I'm trying to create a launcher in the panel that launches an application in the terminal, but it tells me "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal"
[22:36] <mxmasster> hello
[22:36] <mxmasster> i'm trying to do a dist-upgrade which bombs out on me
[22:36] <mxmasster> the main.log error message says that the xubuntu-desktop metapackage is not installed
[22:36] <mxmasster> how do i resolve this?
[22:37] <ArthurArchnix> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:37] <mxmasster> okay says that it is already the newest version
[22:38] <ArthurArchnix> ok, do sudo apt-get update
[22:38] <ArthurArchnix> any errors?
[22:38] <mxmasster> no
[22:38] <ArthurArchnix> now sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:38] <ArthurArchnix> any errors?
[22:40] <mxmasster> ArthurArchnix: no
[22:40] <ArthurArchnix> Did it upgrade anything?
[22:40] <mxmasster> sales 0 upgrade, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[22:40] <mxmasster> (s/sales/says/) correction: says 0 upgrade, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[22:41] <ArthurArchnix> hmm.... paste the exact output of sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:41] <mxmasster> but it does identify that i am running 7.10
[22:41] <ArthurArchnix> but wait
[22:41] <ArthurArchnix> if there are not updates... what are you trying to do?
[22:41] <mxmasster> dist-upgrade
[22:42] <mxmasster> where do i see the release version on the system
[22:42] <zoredache> mxmasster: if you are trying to update from the command line you will also need to change your sources.list to point at hardy
[22:42] <mxmasster> zoredache: okay that would make a difference
[22:42] <mxmasster> is there a link with the instructions ?
[22:42] <zoredache> lsb_release -a should tell you the current release
[22:43] <eater> anybody know about panel launchers?
[22:43] <mxmasster> i was using the gui tool which was failing
[22:43] <zoredache> mxmasster: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list look at all the lines and replace gutsy with hardy
[22:43] <ArthurArchnix> I thought dist-upgrade was deprecated. There were some new instructions on the wiki about upgrading from 7.1
[22:44] <mxmasster> the site says to use the gui which is failing
[22:45] <ArthurArchnix> Then zoredache's method sounds like the trick.
[22:46] <zoredache> just a though, but you might want o backup any data you have...  If the GUI is failing trying to force things from the command line there is a remote chance things will get worse
[22:46] <mxmasster> thanks
[22:47] <mxmasster> fortunately there is nothing on the system that matters
[22:47] <mxmasster> so if it get's more feisty the cd will work
[23:00] <suRs> hello
[23:00] <lc2> o hay thar
[23:01] <ShiroUsagi> Any Ideas about Xfce freezing? Should I repeat my question?
[23:01] <lc2> i never saw it, so go for it
[23:02] <ShiroUsagi> Hi, could anybody here help me? I`m having an annoying bug with Xfce, installed via xubuntu-desktop meta package over Ubuntu 8.04. After I log in, and just use it for something, e.g. browser open, xchat, terminal, jabber... Everything becomes unresponsive to mouse clicks and keyboard, although the pointer is still moving, and I can see windows updating (new chat messages, etc)...
[23:02] <lc2> heh, what
[23:03] <lc2> i don't know, but you might want to disable compositing or some other cargo-cult solution
[23:03] <ShiroUsagi> No idea why it happens, but it happens all the time. No compositing.
[23:03] <mrredundancyman> has anyone had any luck getting sound to work in Hardy on a Thinkpad 600E?
[23:03] <lc2> ShiroUsagi: oh ;(
[23:04] <zoredache> ShiroUsagi: do you have a second computer?  I would be tempted to try to ssh in while it is hung... Or perhaps try going to a console (ctrl-alt-f2) and fire up top and see if anything appears out of the ordinary
[23:06] <slow-motion> n8
[23:06] <ShiroUsagi> zoredache, Oh, well, let`s try that. What`s your ip? I`ll open the port for you.
[23:07] <zoredache> eh?  I wasn't offering to ssh in.  I was suggesting you do that if you had two computers
[23:08] <zoredache> I won't be able to get to you from where I am right now
[23:08] <TheSheep> ShiroUsagi: and letting random people in is not really a wise thing to do
[23:08] <ShiroUsagi> Ah, sorry, I`m a bit sleepy. Okay okay. And desperate too.
[23:10] <Valis_> Hello. Does anyone know how to integrate Claws Mail with Firefox (i.e. with the mailto: command)?
[23:15] <KuroUsagi> Aha. It hung again. And I only opened one window, minimized it, and tried to restore it back.
[23:17] <zoredache> KuroUsagi: once it is 'hung' what do you do to get it working again?
[23:18] <KuroUsagi> zoredache, Nothing worked so far, so, I guess, restarting X.
[23:18] <KuroUsagi> Everything seems pretty normal in top
[23:19] <KuroUsagi> The screen renders alright, but all input is disabled.
[23:19] <KuroUsagi> Keyboard and mouse buttons are having no effect.
[23:28] <KuroUsagi> I`ve restarted X, and trying to figure out what`s causing this.
[23:36] <darkcrab> i set in firefox to auto open transmission when I open a bittorrent file, but now I want it to use azureus, anybody know how to change it?
[23:36] <ShiroUsagi> Just according to the Murphy`s law, everything works fine, when I want to trace a bug…
[23:36] <lc2> wat
[23:37] <lc2> darkcrab: do what you did before, just not with transmission
[23:37] <darkcrab> it wont let me lc2
[23:37] <lc2> why
[23:37] <darkcrab> because I have it set to auto-open the file
[23:37] <darkcrab> so it doesnt give me a choice
[23:37] <darkcrab> like it did before
[23:37] <ArthurArchnix> There's this page in firefox options that lets you choose custom apps.
[23:37] <zoredache> in the prefs go to the content tab, and click the file-types button... that may give you what you want
[23:37] <ArthurArchnix> If it's available you can change it from transmission to something else.
[23:38] <ShiroUsagi> It also has an option to ask every time what you want to do with the selected file types.
[23:40] <darkcrab> i cant find anything
[23:41] <ArthurArchnix> Do you mean you can't find the page with options, or you can find the page, but there's nothing in it?
[23:42] <suRs> omg
[23:43] <suRs> i have the biggest problem to install wlifi wirlessness
[23:44] <ShiroUsagi> darkcrab, It should be in Edit > Preferences > Applications, Listed as BitTorrent seed file. Is Azureus set as a default torrent-file handler in the system?
[23:45] <node_6> hi all
[23:45] <node_6> I need some help getting my mic to work, please
[23:45] <darkcrab> there is nothing listed under applications shiro usagi
[23:45] <node_6> I have it plugged into the correct jack in the soundcard (colors match up).  alsamixer's recording settings are set at 75% and input source is set on mic
[23:45] <lc2> darkcrab: edit .mozilla/firefox/<your profile>/mimeTypes.rdf
[23:46] <darkcrab> ok
[23:46] <ArthurArchnix> darkcrab: ﻿Yeah... well, that's why it's called a beta. You can either wait for updates or create a new profile, and import your bookmarks and stuff from the old profile. This time choose azeurus. Better though is just to leave it at ask like Shirosays... until final is released. or... while I was typing that, maybe lc2 has an easier method
[23:48] <ShiroUsagi> darkcrab, Might try making Azureus default for torrent-files, then. Right click a downloaded .torrent and onto the Open with... I believe when firefox encounters a torrent it will just ask what to do, and add the type to its list.
[23:50] <darkcrab> i did that, yea, thanks though shiro.
[23:51] <node_6> it doesn't seem that xfce's sound manager does anything useful for me.  help please :)
[23:59] <ShiroUsagi> node_6, What about the volume level in xfce4-mixer ?
[23:59] <darkcrab> lc2, I did what you said, and it still does it