[00:06] !xrandr [00:06] XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 === dmb_ is now known as dmb === Ronald|Laptop is now known as Ronald === Dana1 is now known as DanaG === Webspot_ is now known as Webspot [08:45] man, not really a good time to upgrade === marko_ is now known as marko-_- [08:49] Heh. What broke now? [08:49] pwnguin: ? [08:52] debconf? [08:52] No, you just need to upgrade findutils :) [08:53] A second round of full-upgrade should result in magical unicorns. [08:53] ? [08:53] i didnt even have findutils installed [08:54] but it does appear to fix whatever troubles [08:54] Yeah. [08:55] Do you have a cryptroot setup? If so, does it work? :) [08:55] i do not [08:55] im sorry, you'll have to ford that river yourself :P [08:56] i like the changelog to findutils [08:56] I haven't seen it. Edited highlights? [08:56] findutils (4.4.0-2ubuntu2) intrepid; urgency=low [08:56] * No-change rebuild. Last Friday, xargs suddenly broke for no apparent [08:56] reason, and equally mystically a local build works again. [08:56] Oh yeah, new gnome-volume-control looks nice... except for the rather too large buttons on the bottom. [08:57] pwnguin: That's *awesome*! [08:57] its exactly what i saw though [08:59] installing debconf choked on xargs assertion errors [08:59] Yup. [08:59] xaargs, matey. [08:59] Sounds like something a pirate would say. [08:59] And then mystically works again :) [09:00] well [09:00] at least the net didnt break halfway through upgrade [09:00] Always a winner. [09:03] Or HAL... while you happen to be on battery. [09:03] well [09:03] upgrade on battery is your own damn fauilt [09:03] Easy to avoid: don't upgrade while on battery. [09:03] Yup. [09:04] It doesn't "break" -- it just stops working until I reboot. [09:04] its like copy to ntfs on battery. dont [09:04] its gonna take longer to upgrade than i have battery anyways [09:04] And don't use the same partition in both a VM and native... or at least, don't use others on the same drive. [09:04] I somehow royally screwed up my NTFS partition, to where it seemed like all was lost. [09:05] I had an old backup, but I had some new media files I didn't want to lose.... and had conveniently just given to a friend. [09:05] But anyway, I ran TestDisk on a whim, and found: it can magically recover files from evenly royally screwed up NTFS. [09:05] er [09:05] even royally [09:06] 'p' to list files, and 'c' to copy to current directory -- but you have to 'cd' to the place you want the files to go, first. [09:07] That's a factoid idea: !testdisk: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step [09:08] maybe if you keep repeating yourself [09:08] someone will care ;) [09:10] That utility has saved my data sooooo many times. [09:10] And I've also told others about it. [09:12] http://lwn.net/Articles/284113/ [09:12] random. [09:13] well im glad someone's paying him to fix laptops [09:14] Who? [09:14] what? [09:14] mjg got hired by redhat [09:14] Aah. [09:14] + * Copyright (C) 2008 Red Hat [09:15] do we have any idea whether flashplayer 10 will be out of beta by october? [09:16] man. the ubuntu laptop team is on life support [09:20] http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Kernel/2008-06/msg01927.html [09:22] i have to ask -- is there a theme here? [09:22] Stuff for HP business laptops. [09:22] Accelerometer and such. [09:23] sure. everything's getting better all the time [09:24] do you own an HP or something? [09:24] I hope those things will be in-tree somewhere along the Intrepid development cycle. [09:24] I'll be getting a new laptop in the summer, and I've essentially decided on one of them. [09:24] ... or the successor, as it may be. [09:30] ok, what's a capplet? [09:34] control panel applet? [09:34] Maybe. [09:36] well you called it capplet [09:37] its apparently a configuration applet [09:42] DanaG: You know, you can set that factoid yourself? !testdisk is stuff goes here :) [09:43] Aah. I figured there might be permissions I'd need. [09:43] Nope. Say that, then head into #ubuntu-ops to get someone to ack it. [09:44] !testdisk is http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step [09:46] I'm actually going to go to bed now. [09:46] Fri Jun 6 01:46:04 PDT 2008 [09:51] if you guys like the compiz stuff [09:51] ive got a neat one for ya [09:52] somoene finally addded the new colorfilters [09:58] How about trails and atlantis2? Are those in -unsupported package? [09:59] well crap [09:59] if you go to colorfilter in CCSM, what controls which filters show up? [10:00] 9 [10:01] Something odd: the first filter selected is "cumulative" or something like that. [10:01] It applies ALL of them, in god-only-knows what order. [10:04] ? [10:04] no [10:04] i meant, theres a directory full of filters [10:04] which ones get displayed, i just discovered, is part of an xml file [10:18] well, thanks for the help RAOF [10:18] time to wreak havoc on others [10:22] Heh [11:26] does anybody know where smart-notifier comes from? [11:26] as in official site or anything? === elkbuntu is now known as elky [11:57] hyperair_: please ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic as this channle is for intrepid only and since its barely usable most people shoulnt be using it. [11:59] ah. i see [11:59] okay === gordon is now known as Guest57356 === elky is now known as elkbuntu [13:32] how do I upgrade to intrepid? [13:33] mnemo: from a console, run: [13:33] update-manager -d [13:33] but be warned: it is still not even ALPHA [13:34] hmm, I tried that before and it said "update-manager not installed" ... so I installed it and then tried and then it just shows "no updates" in the gui [13:34] I'm waiting until the 12th, when the 1st alpha is expected [13:34] hmm ok [13:34] mnemo, read the /topic before you do [13:34] i've read it, also my system is already broken it seems [13:34] if you don't have/had update-manager installed, then your system is in no good state. [13:35] i would not upgrade quite yet, chances are very high that during the upgrade a problem with libc6/findutils will happen and maintianer script crashes, better bootstrap a chroot for now [13:36] ok, I'll wait a month or so then :) [13:36] eheh, ok mnemo [13:37] is there any command I can use to revert all my packages back to hardy? because i've been beta testing various bug fixes and upstream graphics drivers so I think myself is very dirty right now [13:37] mvo I downloaded 8.04.1 from cdimage last week, but right now I can't find a current iso, that I can rsync and do a chroot! [13:37] how can I do that? [13:38] install debootstrap from hardy-backports, that can do one. maybe pbuilder if you are interessted in development [13:51] not that much mvo [13:51] just trying out and filling bugs === jussi01_ is now known as jussio1 === evalles_ is now known as effie_jayx [15:47] hi all, does anybody know of an user-friendly image cropping tool ? === TheInfinity_ is now known as TheInfinity [20:44] evening ppl [20:47] good afternoon linux1 [20:55] Heh, I'm running "john the ripper" on my own shadow file, and I'm expecting it won't find it quickly. [20:56] It's alphanumeric, but it has some obscure things in it. [20:56] And 10 characters. === Andre_Gondim_ is now known as Andre_Gondim [21:40] Hello, I saw that specifications for intrepid must be finalized at 5 june, where are those?