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darkfrogI was using Mythbuntu fine, but wanted to switch to Gnome and now when I boot up I just get a black screen with the mouse cursor...how do I switch back to Xfce?00:50
mooseman089hey01:03
mooseman089in my frontend under status it says the backend is using like 993megs of its 1gig of ram but in the system monitor it only shows 333megs of use01:04
darthanubiswhy does totem mythtv plugin return "an error has occured no stream data"?02:29
darthanubiscan anyone watch their myth content with totem?02:31
buntunubsure but why would you want to02:45
darkfrogI screwed something up on my mythbuntu installation and tried to switch to using Gnome and then KDE...both come up, but I get a black screen with the mouse cursor....how do I get back to my Mythbuntu desktop?03:04
darkfrogiamlindoro, you still around?03:05
darthanubisremote not working after kernel upgrade03:08
buntunubtry setting it back up again03:08
darthanubisreally?03:09
darthanubis@/sarcasm off :-P03:09
darkfrogDoesn't Mythbuntu use Xfce4 by default?03:17
darthanubisdunno03:24
darthanubisthere seems to be no gurus here tonight03:24
darthanubistotem does not play myth content03:25
KillerKiwi2005darkfrrog: yes mythbuntu is xfce03:33
KillerKiwi2005darthanbuis: totem does work but Id call it beta quality at best03:33
KillerKiwi2005darkfrog: try reinstalling mythbuntu-desktop03:34
KillerKiwi2005and mythbuntu-default-settings03:35
darthanubistotem is not working here with myth content at all03:41
KillerKiwi2005darthanubis: Have you setup you gconf keys?03:41
darthanubismy pvr150 was working fine until the last mass update to .18 and new myth update03:42
darthanubisand yes of course i edited the gconf likethe website calls for03:42
darthanubisI don't want to go back to the old kernel just to use my remote03:42
darthanubistotem has never played myth content for me03:42
KillerKiwi2005Ive got a usb remote03:42
KillerKiwi2005totem works here03:43
darthanubisusb?03:43
darthanubiswhats the point?03:43
KillerKiwi2005msusb remote03:43
darthanubisyour "remote" is wired via usb?03:43
darthanubisisn't that called a mouse?03:43
KillerKiwi2005nope its a remote... via lirc03:44
darthanubisThere was a guy here that helped me with my remote a while back03:44
darthanubisI did what we did and still no remote action03:44
KillerKiwi2005http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote#Media_Center_Remotes03:44
KillerKiwi2005new kernel?03:45
KillerKiwi2005did you have to compile modules last time?03:45
darthanubisdunno if I "HAD" to03:45
darthanubisbut I did03:45
darthanubisand did this time as well03:45
darthanubisstill no joy03:45
KillerKiwi2005I had that before.... i think I had to upgrade the package first to the correct module cause it crapped out after upgrading to 8.0403:47
darthanubisI've done all I can think to do03:48
darthanubis.confs are proper everything03:48
darthanubislircd loads fine03:48
darthanubisall modules loaded03:48
darthanubisirw hanged but no reply when buttons pressed03:48
KillerKiwi2005you have a /dev/lirc* ?03:48
darthanubisyup03:49
darthanubisand it responds when I press the remote03:49
KillerKiwi2005maybe wrong lirc.conf ?03:49
KillerKiwi2005*guessing*03:49
darthanubisnope03:49
KillerKiwi2005see if irrecord sees it you could always do a manual config if that works...03:50
KillerKiwi2005sudo  irrecord --device=/dev/lirc0 custom_lirc.conf03:51
darthanubisbut I have never had to do such a ridiculous thing with this popular remote that works03:52
KillerKiwi2005true but if irrecord works then it must be your conf files....03:53
darthanubisit seems ubuntu is trying its best to keep the pvr150 remote in a borken state03:53
darthanubisits the same config files that worked yesterday03:53
darthanubisand forever03:53
darthanubisits not working conf files thats the problem here03:53
KillerKiwi2005well if you have an /dev/lirc and it outputs content then the driver is fine....03:54
KillerKiwi2005that just leaves conf files...03:54
hadsKillerKiwi2005: Where are you from?05:01
KillerKiwi2005nz05:01
hadsKillerKiwi2005: Yeah, I guessed that bit :) Where abouts?05:01
KillerKiwi2005Right now... Auckland05:02
hadsCool. I'm in Timaru.05:02
darthanubisthis remote situation is really the worst05:02
KillerKiwi2005hads you got freeview dvb-s?05:02
hadsKillerKiwi2005: Yes05:02
KillerKiwi2005sweet, I hooked that up for my parents05:03
hadsCool, works well. What do you do for EPG?05:03
KillerKiwi2005im using tvnzXML at the moment05:03
KillerKiwi2005or is it xmlTVNZ05:04
hadsAh yes.05:04
KillerKiwi2005I see theres a zip file on the mythtv nz mailing list but I havnt tried it yet05:04
hadsYeah, that's generated with epgsnoop from the Sky EIT data, it probably contains more info and is more reliable thatn xmltvnz05:07
KillerKiwi2005I may switch to it... I get scared of touching the setup some times though ;) once its working.......05:08
hadsFair enough :) Anyway must dash out for a bit, nice to meet you.05:08
KillerKiwi2005later05:08
Bob24hello06:06
Bob24how do you add thumbmails on videos in ubuntu?06:06
Bob24i mean mythbuntu06:06
Bob24hello07:05
Bob24can someone please tell me how to find the IMDB number or a movie07:06
Bob24of a movie i mean07:06
Bob24hi, could someone please tell me why the copy speed over lan from windows to ubuntu/mythbuntu is so slow? From ftp its fast but i would like to know what would be causing this please?08:22
tony_anyone know the command to clear the mysql password08:48
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darthanubislirc is running , /dev/lirc0 replies13:22
darthanubisirw waits for cmds13:22
darthanubisbut no response when remote used13:23
darthanubisysing the same .conf files as .17 kernel when the remote worked perfect13:23
darthanubisI'm stuck13:23
darthanubisI have recompiled the kernel modules13:23
darthanubishmmm, maybe I'll make sure I have the restricted modules packages13:24
darthanubiswhats it called?13:24
darthanubisubuntu.modules?13:24
darthanubis!lirc15:05
darthanubisI really could use some help with my remote15:06
darthanubismythtv remote setup not working as before15:06
darthanubiscat /dev/lirc0 works15:07
foxbuntudarthanubis, which remote?15:12
darthanubispvr15015:13
darthanubisglad to see you!15:13
foxbuntudarthanubis, lol15:13
darthanubislast time the guess was that the name for the remote was "wrong"15:14
foxbuntudarthanubis, well..I dont recall anything we may have done, I have been working on about 3 projects at the same time and the old brain is mush15:14
darthanubisnot us15:15
darthanubisanother guy here15:15
foxbuntuoh15:15
darthanubishttp://pastebin.com/d5e927b7415:16
darthanubisI just can't understand why it works then after updates it does not work15:18
darthanubisand even if I repreat steps that made it work before, it does not work15:18
filleokushello15:18
filleokusHas anyone here got a mce-keyboard connected to a *buntu machine? :)15:19
foxbuntudarthanubis, what part isnt working? transmit or receive?15:19
darthanubisneither15:19
darthanubisirw does nto echo cmds15:19
filleokushas got my remote to work, but the keyboard and its integrated mouse is deead15:20
filleokusdead*15:20
filleokusand the pain-in-the-ass part is that i did get work on 815:20
foxbuntudarthanubis, do you know which revision of the remote you have?15:20
filleokusmythubuntu 7*, but then i reformatted and updated to 8 but i cant find the guide*15:21
darthanubisthe one that just worked last week?;) The silver one?15:21
darthanubisa415-hpg15:21
foxbuntuit worked last week? what changed?15:22
darthanubishttp://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/d3/42/b5a8_12.JPG15:23
darthanubisThe kernel, and mythtv15:23
darthanubisthere were massive updates15:24
darthanubiskernel .17 to .18 to now .1915:24
darthanubisI guess 8.04.1 came out?15:24
laganot yet15:26
darthanubisoh15:26
darthanubiswell I guess updates are trickling in via the update manager15:26
lagadoes it work with an older kernel?15:26
darthanubisI had hoped so but no, I got all turned around.15:27
darthanubisrecompiling lirc-modules-source, running mythbuntu remote cofig15:27
lagadoes it work with an older version of lirc?15:27
lagabut i dont believe there has been a lirc update15:27
darthanubisI've done these things so often, I think I cooked the good setup15:27
darthanubisI'm trying to remain calm, but I've lost my patience:(15:28
darthanubisnormally its something obvious, like a missing /dev/lirc015:29
darthanubisor bad lircd.conf15:29
laganothing in the logs?15:29
darthanubisbut the config is the same as before15:29
darthanubisthe apropo modules are loaded, the device is present and echoes keys, but irw does not echo15:30
darthanubiswhich logs, myth's?15:30
lagathen your lircd.conf must be broken15:30
lagatry irrecord?15:30
lagaor can you pastebin the lircd.conf?15:30
darthanubissure15:31
darthanubislircd.conf just symlinks here  /usr/share/lirc/remotes/hauppauge/lircd.conf.hauppauge15:31
lagai suggest copying that file to /etc/lirc/lircd.conf and removing all remotes except for yourws15:32
laga-w15:32
darthanubishttp://pastebin.com/d333f9c5715:32
darthanubis/etc/lirc/lircd.conf is a symlink to the file you suggest copying over15:33
lagayes.15:34
darthanubishttp://pastebin.com/d5e927b7415:34
darthanubisso ifs a symlink to the same data, where is the difference?15:34
darthanubisI dunno who thought it a good idea to use all these symlinks to begin with15:35
lagait wont be a symlink to the same data15:36
lagatry removing all remotes xcept for yours15:37
lagain that file15:37
darthanubisbrb15:44
darthanubis:(15:57
laga?16:02
darthanubisnone of this is working16:02
lagadid you try removing the other remotes?16:03
darthanubisno, because they did not interfere before, it makes no sense in my mind that they would now:/16:03
darthanubisI don't want to blindly go around just hacking at stuff16:04
darthanubisI need logica reasons as to why something like that would even work16:04
lagamy ati remote didn't work. remove some medion remote from the config.16:05
lagait works.16:05
darthanubiswow16:11
lagaso, i'm not offering advice i gathered while hitting the pipe ;)16:12
darthanubisnow I've lost /dev/lirc0 completely16:16
darthanubis&%*&#%16:16
darthanubislaga, I did edit the file as you reccomended16:16
lagaand now the device node is gone? is lircd still running?16:16
darthanubis/etc/init.d/lirc restart work gave 2 oks16:17
darthanubisbut no device16:17
darthanubisnvm16:19
darthanubisirw does not even hang anymore16:26
lagaworking now?16:27
darthanubisits never taken me this long to fix this16:27
lagaor does it just exit?16:27
darthanubisno16:27
darthanubisjust exits16:27
laga:(16:27
lagawhat's in daemon.log regarding lirc?16:27
darthanubisthere is no lirc device anymorre16:28
darthanubisalthough I compiled lirc from source no modules are being loaded at boot16:29
* sabhain feels darthanubis' pain16:29
darthanubisTimes like these I want to hop distros16:36
darthanubisnow the daemon neither starts or stops16:37
lagaand all you did was changing lircd.conf?16:38
darthanubisyes16:40
darthanubisI eally don't know what the hell just happened16:41
kjurt77Hi. I'm having core dumps from mythfrontend since upgrading mythtv with the proposed update last week or so. Also tried to use the weekly build but still core dumps :(. Attempting to view a recorded program will cause it to core dump.. anyone else having this?16:43
lagakjurt77: can you file a bug report with a backtrace?16:46
lagaletz me get you the url16:47
lagakjurt77: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80979116:47
kjurt77laga: thanks... will do16:49
saxomophonehi, can anyone in here help me? I'm trying to set up mythbuntu using my stb through firewire, but mythprime keeps failing17:08
saxomophonei have an sa425017:09
saxomophonehd17:09
jphillipsaxomophone check your encrpytion status in the diagnostic menu17:09
sardiskanI need help, I can burn recordings to DVD17:11
jphillipsaxomophone stb itself17:13
sardiskanI can't transcode anything either17:13
sardiskanfound something on DVD creation17:18
sardiskanhttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythArchive#MythArchive_doesn.27t_work._It_gets_to_the_log_viewer_and_just_sits_there._What.27s_wrong.3F17:18
darthanubisthe lirc modules are no longer loading at boot17:21
darthanubisthis is so maddening17:21
darthanubisit seems Hardy gets worse after every update17:22
darthanubisnothing but ubuntu has been on this box, but Hardy is saddening me17:22
saxomophoneokay, i got into my diagnostics menu, what do I look for to see if it's encrypted?17:35
saxomophonesource ID says 0x0C0B17:35
saxomophoneokay, i found a page in the diagnostics that says "copy protection"17:42
saxomophoneIt says "1394: Unavailable"17:42
saxomophonedoes that mean the port is disabled?17:42
normski1066can someone please help me with using the live CD17:43
saxomophoneanyone else have ideas why mythprime isn't priming my stb?18:00
darthanubisanyone using totem to watch mythtv recordings?18:07
saxomophoneis mythprime isn't working, can i try to follow the instructions for setting up firewire in .20?18:09
saxomophoneor would i have more success reinstalling with the 7.10 version instead of the 8.04?18:11
saxomophoneas it seems the support for 8.04 isn't as wide yet18:11
jphillipwhy don't users stick around for answers?18:39
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sabhainlike a hurricane in here ... wow18:45
Sypher|NLanyone here in this room with experience with Alsa?18:50
jphillipSypher|NL better to ask your question and see if anyone knows, Alsa is kinda a broad subject18:51
Sypher|NLok sorry18:57
Sypher|NLwell: I am new to Myth/Ubuntu/Alsa and I installed my mediacenter with MythBuntu. The pc has a Creative Audigy and I finally got the "stereo surround" to work but I cannot get it to work with MythMusic18:58
Sypher|NLIt works with mplayer (using default settings / software mixer)19:01
Sypher|NLlast.fm works19:01
Sypher|NLbut i cannot get it to work in myth :(19:02
saxomophoneHi, I'm having some trouble configuring a firewire STB. plugreport shows port 0 node 1, but firewire tester fails every time20:23
saxomophoneI know how to get into the diagnostic page on my stb, but i'm not sure what to look for in there20:24
jphillipsaxomophone it sounds like your firewire isn't enabled based on what you said earlier20:25
saxomophoneeven though plugreport detects it?20:25
jphillipother things to check for are 5c encryption status or CCI flags (but they should only apply per channel)20:26
jphillipwell your stb says its not enabled20:26
jphillipon my motorola it comes up as enabled, might want to track someone down who has a working SA20:26
saxomophonekk20:26
jphilliptry the forums, there are a few people in there who have them I believe20:27
saxomophoneshould I call the cable company and complain that by law it's supposed to work?20:27
jphillip0.21 firewire support is a lot nicer than 0.20.2 though, so I wouldn't switch back20:27
jphillip0.20.2 had a node skipping problem which is no longer of concern in 0.2120:27
saxomophoneok20:28
saxomophoneif i can't get firewire working at all, what are my other options?20:29
jphillipdepends what you are trying to accomplish20:29
saxomophonepvr20:30
saxomophonewhere it says the 1394 is unavailable is in a page in the diagnostic about copy protection.20:30
saxomophonebut the other outputs just say none, except hdmi which says hdcp20:31
saxomophoneso i guess that means the port on the box must be off.20:31
jphillipso it says available now?20:31
saxomophoneWill the cable company do anything if I call do you think?20:31
saxomophoneno20:31
saxomophoneit says unavailable20:31
saxomophonefor copy protection on the 139420:31
saxomophonethat's the only place i see anything about the 139420:31
jphillipby law yes they have to provide you with firewire access to your local OTA channels20:32
jphillipsearch for firewire on wiki.mythtv.org20:32
jphillipthere is a blurb there you can read back to them if they give you a hard time20:32
saxomophonekk20:32
jphillipmight want to ask for a manager if they give you a hard time too, as the person you talk to most likely will not even know what firewire is20:32
saxomophonethe box is currently tuned to a loca ota channel20:32
saxomophonelol20:32
saxomophoneokay20:32
jphillipbut in reality few companies care about firewire or fcc mandatings it20:32
saxomophonegotcha20:33
saxomophonei have cablevision if that means anything to you20:33
jphillipI've heard that some will enable that for you remotely, but there are some that will flat out lie to you and say they can't or some other excuse20:33
jphillipnope, comcast here20:33
jphillipthey suck equally, but at least I'm able to get some stuff from my firewire20:33
saxomophoneso if they won't enable the firewire, what are my best hardware options to use mythbuntu as a pvr20:34
saxomophoneis there a pci card that will record off component inputs, or hdmi?20:35
jphilliphauppauge hdpvr (model 1212) is rumored to have linux drivers very shortly20:36
jphillipother than that a HD Homerun can do OTA and unencrpyted QAM20:37
saxomophonekk20:37
jphillipyou could always switch cable companies???20:37
saxomophonethen i lose the best internet in the area20:37
jphillipor look up numbers for execs for your cable company and call them up20:37
jphillipit all depends how much you want to fight for the rights that you deserve20:38
saxomophoneno other cable options here, just satellite20:38
jphillipin the end it could end up being OTA channels only anyways, with the HDHR will get you20:38
jphillips/with/witch/20:38
jphillipwhich even20:38
foxbuntujphillip, actually to be fair the cable co's only have to provide the local HD channels that can be accessed OTA via their cable service unencrypted, the firewire and premium channels are not required and most cable co's lock them out20:40
foxbuntuI personally use the HDHR to record off the QAM access from my cable co for my local HD content20:41
saxomophoneyeah, when tuned to a local hd channel that i should be able to recieve ota, all 1394 related stuff is "unavailable"20:42
saxomophoneso is there any hardware that will record all the channels you have available?20:43
saxomophoneor do you have to just give in a pay for the dvr20:43
jphillipfoxbuntu they are required to provide you those same channels over firewire as well20:45
foxbuntujphillip, not required "urged"20:46
jphillipI'm pretty sure its a fcc mandate20:46
jphillip(i) Effective April 1, 2004, upon request of a customer, replace anyleased high definition set-top box, which does not include a functional IEEE 1394 interface, with one that includes a functional IEEE 1394 interface or upgrade the customer's set-top box by download or other means to ensure that the IEEE 1394 interface is functional.20:48
jphillipsaxomophone HDHR or HD-PVR like I said before20:50
saxomophonejphillip thank you20:55
saxomophonei'm going to try calling the cable company now20:55
jphillipsaxomophone good luck20:55
jphillipif you need any advice on the HDHR or HDPRV just ask, HDPVR drivers aren't available yet but a lot of people use HDHRs20:56
foxbuntujphillip, the law reads that they are required to provide a functional IEEE 1394 interface but it does not state that they are required to provide a functional video stream from that interface21:00
jphillipI thought that the same OTA stream law applied to firewire21:04
jphillipeither way if all they give you is the OTA stream then you might as well get a HDHR and not mess with firewire21:05
braniffhas anyone tried to upgrade php on their 8.04 mythbuntu install ? i upgraded with apt and now mythweb is hosed21:05
jphillipbraniff how old is this php upgrade?21:06
braniffa few hours old21:06
jphillipwhat version of php, 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.1 ?21:07
braniff5.2.4-2ubuntu5.121:08
braniffhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652380  <-- this is the problem i had with the upgrade21:09
braniffthough not my post21:09
braniffi've been trying to fix that problem for four hours21:11
* braniff is clueless about apache/php but not about linux21:11
jphillipdid you try to enable php modules like it says in that post?21:13
braniffyes: [warn] module php5_module is already loaded, skipping21:13
braniffnow apache serves up php as text file without executing it21:14
saxomophonebastards disconnected me21:14
jphillipcan you verify other php pages work or don't work?21:15
saxomophonedo they have some kind of "if customer calls asking about firewire, hang up on them" policy21:15
jphillipsaxomophone they have an "if customer calls about *, hang up on them" policy21:15
braniffi have no other php apps installed21:16
jphilliphave you tried restarting apache since the upgrade?21:16
* jphillip is trying to think of the easiest fixes21:16
braniffprobably restarted it about 30 times21:16
jphillipI'd purge mythweb and reinstall it then21:17
jphillippossibly do the same with php21:17
braniffwhen i do that, apt wants to uninstall all mythtv apps due to dependencies21:17
jphillipserving up them as txt sounds like its an apache config issue21:17
braniffi want to just reinstall the mythbuntu box, but i get a warm fuzzy feeling of computer security by running the latest php21:18
braniffi want to expose mythweb to the internet somehow to control mythweb using my blackberry21:19
* kees doubts that "latest" really helps. ;)21:19
keesbraniff: just basicauth protect it?21:19
jphillipfor mythweb?21:20
braniffi'd like to SSL to it or something21:20
keesbraniff: yeah, that'd be even better.21:20
jphillipare you sure you did mythweb and not mythtv?21:20
braniffyes21:21
jphillipbraniff I'd put some authentication on it and maybe run it on an alternate port21:21
braniffapt-get remove --purge php* apache* mythweb*21:22
braniffi'd really like to port-knock with the blackberry or vpn with it, but j2me is limited in its api21:22
jphillipdon't do apache21:22
jphillipjust start with mythweb21:22
jphillipsee if that fixes it then deal with more from there21:23
jphillipdo dpkg -l |grep php and pastebin that21:23
jphillipI'm wondering if youa re missing libapache2-mod-php521:24
braniffthat's in dpkg -l21:25
braniffi have reinstalled just mythweb now and am getting an apache error21:26
braniffthe same one i had before21:26
* braniff hosed his apache install21:26
jphillipodd, I don't have a /var/www/mythweb/.htaccess file21:28
jphillipdid you put that there yourself?21:28
jphillipmythweb does digest encryption anymore21:29
jphillipstores that stuff in your config instead21:29
braniffi followed an *old* mythweb howto that told me to put .htaccess21:30
jphillipremove/backups/move that and see if it helps21:30
jphillipyou should be able to enable a username/password for mythweb through MCC21:31
jphillipI gotta run, I'll check back in a bit to see if that helped21:32
braniffthanks for the help21:32
braniffreinstallation is the lesser of 2 evils though at this point21:33
szakulecQDVDauthor is pretty awesome21:37
saxomophonewell, no luck from the cable company.21:40
saxomophonehere's a pastebin of my mythprime output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/17695/21:52
ffmIs it possible to install mythbuntu via the mini.iso?22:11
sabhainffm .. yes.  Just got done doing that for my front ends .. works like a champ22:16
sabhainI have 2 pseudo diskless front ends that I wanted to function as standalone .. but use an NFS share as the root, and did the mini-iso install several times .. goes ok.22:17
sabhainthe only real hurdle I had was the US mirror timing out.  In the mini iso cli install you can't control the specific mirror, only a country .. the us would time out .. ended up with success w/ the Mexican one22:27
ffmsabhain: yeah, you can!22:34
ffmsabhain: press pageup until you get to "manually enter mirror"22:34
* ffm is using mit atm22:34
ffmCan I reuse a mini.iso from an older 'buntu release?22:41
Sypher|NLis the included non-opensource driver for nvidia, included in MythBuntu, XvMC capable?22:41
rhpot1991Sypher|NL: yes it should be22:47
rhpot1991been a while since I used it though22:47
sabhainffm .. didn't know that .. oh well .. already done with that23:00
sabhainI pulled the mini.iso from the current released version .. I'll look up the location23:00
sabhainit's on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD23:01
Sypher|NLkay thanks rhpot199123:04
ffmsabhain: ah, I'm using an alpha cd and crossing fingers.23:06
ffmsabhain: did it install the full ubuntu-desktop?23:06
sabhainffm .. I didn't do the full.  I did an apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop after the mini install was done .. then it went out and grabbed just that system.  I'm pretty sure you could do an ubuntu-desktop instead.23:22
ffmsabhain: ah...23:23
sabhaingotta run .. but good luck .. I think you'll find that it works pretty well, though I don't know what to tell you about the alpha ..23:23
ffmsabhain: seems to be wrorking ok.23:25
sabhainhope so.23:27

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