[00:50] I was using Mythbuntu fine, but wanted to switch to Gnome and now when I boot up I just get a black screen with the mouse cursor...how do I switch back to Xfce? [01:03] hey [01:04] in my frontend under status it says the backend is using like 993megs of its 1gig of ram but in the system monitor it only shows 333megs of use [02:29] why does totem mythtv plugin return "an error has occured no stream data"? [02:31] can anyone watch their myth content with totem? [02:45] sure but why would you want to [03:04] I screwed something up on my mythbuntu installation and tried to switch to using Gnome and then KDE...both come up, but I get a black screen with the mouse cursor....how do I get back to my Mythbuntu desktop? [03:05] iamlindoro, you still around? [03:08] remote not working after kernel upgrade [03:08] try setting it back up again [03:09] really? [03:09] @/sarcasm off :-P [03:17] Doesn't Mythbuntu use Xfce4 by default? [03:24] dunno [03:24] there seems to be no gurus here tonight [03:25] totem does not play myth content [03:33] darkfrrog: yes mythbuntu is xfce [03:33] darthanbuis: totem does work but Id call it beta quality at best [03:34] darkfrog: try reinstalling mythbuntu-desktop [03:35] and mythbuntu-default-settings [03:41] totem is not working here with myth content at all [03:41] darthanubis: Have you setup you gconf keys? [03:42] my pvr150 was working fine until the last mass update to .18 and new myth update [03:42] and yes of course i edited the gconf likethe website calls for [03:42] I don't want to go back to the old kernel just to use my remote [03:42] totem has never played myth content for me [03:42] Ive got a usb remote [03:43] totem works here [03:43] usb? [03:43] whats the point? [03:43] msusb remote [03:43] your "remote" is wired via usb? [03:43] isn't that called a mouse? [03:44] nope its a remote... via lirc [03:44] There was a guy here that helped me with my remote a while back [03:44] I did what we did and still no remote action [03:44] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote#Media_Center_Remotes [03:45] new kernel? [03:45] did you have to compile modules last time? [03:45] dunno if I "HAD" to [03:45] but I did [03:45] and did this time as well [03:45] still no joy [03:47] I had that before.... i think I had to upgrade the package first to the correct module cause it crapped out after upgrading to 8.04 [03:48] I've done all I can think to do [03:48] .confs are proper everything [03:48] lircd loads fine [03:48] all modules loaded [03:48] irw hanged but no reply when buttons pressed [03:48] you have a /dev/lirc* ? [03:49] yup [03:49] and it responds when I press the remote [03:49] maybe wrong lirc.conf ? [03:49] *guessing* [03:49] nope [03:50] see if irrecord sees it you could always do a manual config if that works... [03:51] sudo irrecord --device=/dev/lirc0 custom_lirc.conf [03:52] but I have never had to do such a ridiculous thing with this popular remote that works [03:53] true but if irrecord works then it must be your conf files.... [03:53] it seems ubuntu is trying its best to keep the pvr150 remote in a borken state [03:53] its the same config files that worked yesterday [03:53] and forever [03:53] its not working conf files thats the problem here [03:54] well if you have an /dev/lirc and it outputs content then the driver is fine.... [03:54] that just leaves conf files... [05:01] KillerKiwi2005: Where are you from? [05:01] nz [05:01] KillerKiwi2005: Yeah, I guessed that bit :) Where abouts? [05:02] Right now... Auckland [05:02] Cool. I'm in Timaru. [05:02] this remote situation is really the worst [05:02] hads you got freeview dvb-s? [05:02] KillerKiwi2005: Yes [05:03] sweet, I hooked that up for my parents [05:03] Cool, works well. What do you do for EPG? [05:03] im using tvnzXML at the moment [05:04] or is it xmlTVNZ [05:04] Ah yes. [05:04] I see theres a zip file on the mythtv nz mailing list but I havnt tried it yet [05:07] Yeah, that's generated with epgsnoop from the Sky EIT data, it probably contains more info and is more reliable thatn xmltvnz [05:08] I may switch to it... I get scared of touching the setup some times though ;) once its working....... [05:08] Fair enough :) Anyway must dash out for a bit, nice to meet you. [05:08] later [06:06] hello [06:06] how do you add thumbmails on videos in ubuntu? [06:06] i mean mythbuntu [07:05] hello [07:06] can someone please tell me how to find the IMDB number or a movie [07:06] of a movie i mean [08:22] hi, could someone please tell me why the copy speed over lan from windows to ubuntu/mythbuntu is so slow? From ftp its fast but i would like to know what would be causing this please? [08:48] anyone know the command to clear the mysql password === Penfold_ is now known as Penfold [13:22] lirc is running , /dev/lirc0 replies [13:22] irw waits for cmds [13:23] but no response when remote used [13:23] ysing the same .conf files as .17 kernel when the remote worked perfect [13:23] I'm stuck [13:23] I have recompiled the kernel modules [13:24] hmmm, maybe I'll make sure I have the restricted modules packages [13:24] whats it called? [13:24] ubuntu.modules? [15:05] !lirc [15:06] I really could use some help with my remote [15:06] mythtv remote setup not working as before [15:07] cat /dev/lirc0 works [15:12] darthanubis, which remote? [15:13] pvr150 [15:13] glad to see you! [15:13] darthanubis, lol [15:14] last time the guess was that the name for the remote was "wrong" [15:14] darthanubis, well..I dont recall anything we may have done, I have been working on about 3 projects at the same time and the old brain is mush [15:15] not us [15:15] another guy here [15:15] oh [15:16] http://pastebin.com/d5e927b74 [15:18] I just can't understand why it works then after updates it does not work [15:18] and even if I repreat steps that made it work before, it does not work [15:18] hello [15:19] Has anyone here got a mce-keyboard connected to a *buntu machine? :) [15:19] darthanubis, what part isnt working? transmit or receive? [15:19] neither [15:19] irw does nto echo cmds [15:20] has got my remote to work, but the keyboard and its integrated mouse is deead [15:20] dead* [15:20] and the pain-in-the-ass part is that i did get work on 8 [15:20] darthanubis, do you know which revision of the remote you have? [15:21] mythubuntu 7*, but then i reformatted and updated to 8 but i cant find the guide* [15:21] the one that just worked last week?;) The silver one? [15:21] a415-hpg [15:22] it worked last week? what changed? [15:23] http://i3.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/d3/42/b5a8_12.JPG [15:23] The kernel, and mythtv [15:24] there were massive updates [15:24] kernel .17 to .18 to now .19 [15:24] I guess 8.04.1 came out? [15:26] not yet [15:26] oh [15:26] well I guess updates are trickling in via the update manager [15:26] does it work with an older kernel? [15:27] I had hoped so but no, I got all turned around. [15:27] recompiling lirc-modules-source, running mythbuntu remote cofig [15:27] does it work with an older version of lirc? [15:27] but i dont believe there has been a lirc update [15:27] I've done these things so often, I think I cooked the good setup [15:28] I'm trying to remain calm, but I've lost my patience:( [15:29] normally its something obvious, like a missing /dev/lirc0 [15:29] or bad lircd.conf [15:29] nothing in the logs? [15:29] but the config is the same as before [15:30] the apropo modules are loaded, the device is present and echoes keys, but irw does not echo [15:30] which logs, myth's? [15:30] then your lircd.conf must be broken [15:30] try irrecord? [15:30] or can you pastebin the lircd.conf? [15:31] sure [15:31] lircd.conf just symlinks here /usr/share/lirc/remotes/hauppauge/lircd.conf.hauppauge [15:32] i suggest copying that file to /etc/lirc/lircd.conf and removing all remotes except for yourws [15:32] -w [15:32] http://pastebin.com/d333f9c57 [15:33] /etc/lirc/lircd.conf is a symlink to the file you suggest copying over [15:34] yes. [15:34] http://pastebin.com/d5e927b74 [15:34] so ifs a symlink to the same data, where is the difference? [15:35] I dunno who thought it a good idea to use all these symlinks to begin with [15:36] it wont be a symlink to the same data [15:37] try removing all remotes xcept for yours [15:37] in that file [15:44] brb [15:57] :( [16:02] ? [16:02] none of this is working [16:03] did you try removing the other remotes? [16:03] no, because they did not interfere before, it makes no sense in my mind that they would now:/ [16:04] I don't want to blindly go around just hacking at stuff [16:04] I need logica reasons as to why something like that would even work [16:05] my ati remote didn't work. remove some medion remote from the config. [16:05] it works. [16:11] wow [16:12] so, i'm not offering advice i gathered while hitting the pipe ;) [16:16] now I've lost /dev/lirc0 completely [16:16] &%*&#% [16:16] laga, I did edit the file as you reccomended [16:16] and now the device node is gone? is lircd still running? [16:17] /etc/init.d/lirc restart work gave 2 oks [16:17] but no device [16:19] nvm [16:26] irw does not even hang anymore [16:27] working now? [16:27] its never taken me this long to fix this [16:27] or does it just exit? [16:27] no [16:27] just exits [16:27] :( [16:27] what's in daemon.log regarding lirc? [16:28] there is no lirc device anymorre [16:29] although I compiled lirc from source no modules are being loaded at boot [16:29] * sabhain feels darthanubis' pain [16:36] Times like these I want to hop distros [16:37] now the daemon neither starts or stops [16:38] and all you did was changing lircd.conf? [16:40] yes [16:41] I eally don't know what the hell just happened [16:43] Hi. I'm having core dumps from mythfrontend since upgrading mythtv with the proposed update last week or so. Also tried to use the weekly build but still core dumps :(. Attempting to view a recorded program will cause it to core dump.. anyone else having this? [16:46] kjurt77: can you file a bug report with a backtrace? [16:47] letz me get you the url [16:47] kjurt77: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=809791 [16:49] laga: thanks... will do [17:08] hi, can anyone in here help me? I'm trying to set up mythbuntu using my stb through firewire, but mythprime keeps failing [17:09] i have an sa4250 [17:09] hd [17:09] saxomophone check your encrpytion status in the diagnostic menu [17:11] I need help, I can burn recordings to DVD [17:13] saxomophone stb itself [17:13] I can't transcode anything either [17:18] found something on DVD creation [17:18] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MythArchive#MythArchive_doesn.27t_work._It_gets_to_the_log_viewer_and_just_sits_there._What.27s_wrong.3F [17:21] the lirc modules are no longer loading at boot [17:21] this is so maddening [17:22] it seems Hardy gets worse after every update [17:22] nothing but ubuntu has been on this box, but Hardy is saddening me [17:35] okay, i got into my diagnostics menu, what do I look for to see if it's encrypted? [17:35] source ID says 0x0C0B [17:42] okay, i found a page in the diagnostics that says "copy protection" [17:42] It says "1394: Unavailable" [17:42] does that mean the port is disabled? [17:43] can someone please help me with using the live CD [18:00] anyone else have ideas why mythprime isn't priming my stb? [18:07] anyone using totem to watch mythtv recordings? [18:09] is mythprime isn't working, can i try to follow the instructions for setting up firewire in .20? [18:11] or would i have more success reinstalling with the 7.10 version instead of the 8.04? [18:11] as it seems the support for 8.04 isn't as wide yet [18:39] why don't users stick around for answers? === Sypher[NL] is now known as Sypher|NL [18:45] like a hurricane in here ... wow [18:50] anyone here in this room with experience with Alsa? [18:51] Sypher|NL better to ask your question and see if anyone knows, Alsa is kinda a broad subject [18:57] ok sorry [18:58] well: I am new to Myth/Ubuntu/Alsa and I installed my mediacenter with MythBuntu. The pc has a Creative Audigy and I finally got the "stereo surround" to work but I cannot get it to work with MythMusic [19:01] It works with mplayer (using default settings / software mixer) [19:01] last.fm works [19:02] but i cannot get it to work in myth :( [20:23] Hi, I'm having some trouble configuring a firewire STB. plugreport shows port 0 node 1, but firewire tester fails every time [20:24] I know how to get into the diagnostic page on my stb, but i'm not sure what to look for in there [20:25] saxomophone it sounds like your firewire isn't enabled based on what you said earlier [20:25] even though plugreport detects it? [20:26] other things to check for are 5c encryption status or CCI flags (but they should only apply per channel) [20:26] well your stb says its not enabled [20:26] on my motorola it comes up as enabled, might want to track someone down who has a working SA [20:26] kk [20:27] try the forums, there are a few people in there who have them I believe [20:27] should I call the cable company and complain that by law it's supposed to work? [20:27] 0.21 firewire support is a lot nicer than 0.20.2 though, so I wouldn't switch back [20:27] 0.20.2 had a node skipping problem which is no longer of concern in 0.21 [20:28] ok [20:29] if i can't get firewire working at all, what are my other options? [20:29] depends what you are trying to accomplish [20:30] pvr [20:30] where it says the 1394 is unavailable is in a page in the diagnostic about copy protection. [20:31] but the other outputs just say none, except hdmi which says hdcp [20:31] so i guess that means the port on the box must be off. [20:31] so it says available now? [20:31] Will the cable company do anything if I call do you think? [20:31] no [20:31] it says unavailable [20:31] for copy protection on the 1394 [20:31] that's the only place i see anything about the 1394 [20:32] by law yes they have to provide you with firewire access to your local OTA channels [20:32] search for firewire on wiki.mythtv.org [20:32] there is a blurb there you can read back to them if they give you a hard time [20:32] kk [20:32] might want to ask for a manager if they give you a hard time too, as the person you talk to most likely will not even know what firewire is [20:32] the box is currently tuned to a loca ota channel [20:32] lol [20:32] okay [20:32] but in reality few companies care about firewire or fcc mandatings it [20:33] gotcha [20:33] i have cablevision if that means anything to you [20:33] I've heard that some will enable that for you remotely, but there are some that will flat out lie to you and say they can't or some other excuse [20:33] nope, comcast here [20:33] they suck equally, but at least I'm able to get some stuff from my firewire [20:34] so if they won't enable the firewire, what are my best hardware options to use mythbuntu as a pvr [20:35] is there a pci card that will record off component inputs, or hdmi? [20:36] hauppauge hdpvr (model 1212) is rumored to have linux drivers very shortly [20:37] other than that a HD Homerun can do OTA and unencrpyted QAM [20:37] kk [20:37] you could always switch cable companies??? [20:37] then i lose the best internet in the area [20:37] or look up numbers for execs for your cable company and call them up [20:38] it all depends how much you want to fight for the rights that you deserve [20:38] no other cable options here, just satellite [20:38] in the end it could end up being OTA channels only anyways, with the HDHR will get you [20:38] s/with/witch/ [20:38] which even [20:40] jphillip, actually to be fair the cable co's only have to provide the local HD channels that can be accessed OTA via their cable service unencrypted, the firewire and premium channels are not required and most cable co's lock them out [20:41] I personally use the HDHR to record off the QAM access from my cable co for my local HD content [20:42] yeah, when tuned to a local hd channel that i should be able to recieve ota, all 1394 related stuff is "unavailable" [20:43] so is there any hardware that will record all the channels you have available? [20:43] or do you have to just give in a pay for the dvr [20:45] foxbuntu they are required to provide you those same channels over firewire as well [20:46] jphillip, not required "urged" [20:46] I'm pretty sure its a fcc mandate [20:48] (i) Effective April 1, 2004, upon request of a customer, replace anyleased high definition set-top box, which does not include a functional IEEE 1394 interface, with one that includes a functional IEEE 1394 interface or upgrade the customer's set-top box by download or other means to ensure that the IEEE 1394 interface is functional. [20:50] saxomophone HDHR or HD-PVR like I said before [20:55] jphillip thank you [20:55] i'm going to try calling the cable company now [20:55] saxomophone good luck [20:56] if you need any advice on the HDHR or HDPRV just ask, HDPVR drivers aren't available yet but a lot of people use HDHRs [21:00] jphillip, the law reads that they are required to provide a functional IEEE 1394 interface but it does not state that they are required to provide a functional video stream from that interface [21:04] I thought that the same OTA stream law applied to firewire [21:05] either way if all they give you is the OTA stream then you might as well get a HDHR and not mess with firewire [21:05] has anyone tried to upgrade php on their 8.04 mythbuntu install ? i upgraded with apt and now mythweb is hosed [21:06] braniff how old is this php upgrade? [21:06] a few hours old [21:07] what version of php, 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.1 ? [21:08] 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.1 [21:09] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=652380 <-- this is the problem i had with the upgrade [21:09] though not my post [21:11] i've been trying to fix that problem for four hours [21:11] * braniff is clueless about apache/php but not about linux [21:13] did you try to enable php modules like it says in that post? [21:13] yes: [warn] module php5_module is already loaded, skipping [21:14] now apache serves up php as text file without executing it [21:14] bastards disconnected me [21:15] can you verify other php pages work or don't work? [21:15] do they have some kind of "if customer calls asking about firewire, hang up on them" policy [21:15] saxomophone they have an "if customer calls about *, hang up on them" policy [21:16] i have no other php apps installed [21:16] have you tried restarting apache since the upgrade? [21:16] * jphillip is trying to think of the easiest fixes [21:16] probably restarted it about 30 times [21:17] I'd purge mythweb and reinstall it then [21:17] possibly do the same with php [21:17] when i do that, apt wants to uninstall all mythtv apps due to dependencies [21:17] serving up them as txt sounds like its an apache config issue [21:18] i want to just reinstall the mythbuntu box, but i get a warm fuzzy feeling of computer security by running the latest php [21:19] i want to expose mythweb to the internet somehow to control mythweb using my blackberry [21:19] * kees doubts that "latest" really helps. ;) [21:19] braniff: just basicauth protect it? [21:20] for mythweb? [21:20] i'd like to SSL to it or something [21:20] braniff: yeah, that'd be even better. [21:20] are you sure you did mythweb and not mythtv? [21:21] yes [21:21] braniff I'd put some authentication on it and maybe run it on an alternate port [21:22] apt-get remove --purge php* apache* mythweb* [21:22] i'd really like to port-knock with the blackberry or vpn with it, but j2me is limited in its api [21:22] don't do apache [21:22] just start with mythweb [21:23] see if that fixes it then deal with more from there [21:23] do dpkg -l |grep php and pastebin that [21:24] I'm wondering if youa re missing libapache2-mod-php5 [21:25] that's in dpkg -l [21:26] i have reinstalled just mythweb now and am getting an apache error [21:26] the same one i had before [21:26] * braniff hosed his apache install [21:28] odd, I don't have a /var/www/mythweb/.htaccess file [21:28] did you put that there yourself? [21:29] mythweb does digest encryption anymore [21:29] stores that stuff in your config instead [21:30] i followed an *old* mythweb howto that told me to put .htaccess [21:30] remove/backups/move that and see if it helps [21:31] you should be able to enable a username/password for mythweb through MCC [21:32] I gotta run, I'll check back in a bit to see if that helped [21:32] thanks for the help [21:33] reinstallation is the lesser of 2 evils though at this point [21:37] QDVDauthor is pretty awesome [21:40] well, no luck from the cable company. [21:52] here's a pastebin of my mythprime output http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/17695/ [22:11] Is it possible to install mythbuntu via the mini.iso? [22:16] ffm .. yes. Just got done doing that for my front ends .. works like a champ [22:17] I have 2 pseudo diskless front ends that I wanted to function as standalone .. but use an NFS share as the root, and did the mini-iso install several times .. goes ok. [22:27] the only real hurdle I had was the US mirror timing out. In the mini iso cli install you can't control the specific mirror, only a country .. the us would time out .. ended up with success w/ the Mexican one [22:34] sabhain: yeah, you can! [22:34] sabhain: press pageup until you get to "manually enter mirror" [22:34] * ffm is using mit atm [22:41] Can I reuse a mini.iso from an older 'buntu release? [22:41] is the included non-opensource driver for nvidia, included in MythBuntu, XvMC capable? [22:47] Sypher|NL: yes it should be [22:47] been a while since I used it though [23:00] ffm .. didn't know that .. oh well .. already done with that [23:00] I pulled the mini.iso from the current released version .. I'll look up the location [23:01] it's on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [23:04] kay thanks rhpot1991 [23:06] sabhain: ah, I'm using an alpha cd and crossing fingers. [23:06] sabhain: did it install the full ubuntu-desktop? [23:22] ffm .. I didn't do the full. I did an apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop after the mini install was done .. then it went out and grabbed just that system. I'm pretty sure you could do an ubuntu-desktop instead. [23:23] sabhain: ah... [23:23] gotta run .. but good luck .. I think you'll find that it works pretty well, though I don't know what to tell you about the alpha .. [23:25] sabhain: seems to be wrorking ok. [23:27] hope so.