| apachelogger | Serega: is there a specific reason you are compating with debhelper 4? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| apachelogger | yuriy: let me check | 00:00 |
| Serega | apachelogger: nope, just leaved | 00:01 |
| Serega | apachelogger: is there a way to determine that? | 00:01 |
| ScottK2 | apachelogger: compat 4 is not deprecated so there's no reason to bump it unless the package actually needs a later version. | 00:01 |
| apachelogger | ScottK2: well it is a new package, so I see no reason to use it either | 00:02 |
| apachelogger | Serega: if you change it and the build breaks you know that you have to run in 4 compability mode ;-) | 00:02 |
| ScottK2 | Artificially bumping version requirements is not generally a good thing. All supported Ubuntu versions have Debhelper 5, so it really doesn't matter much. | 00:03 |
| Serega | =) how to change? increase/decrease? | 00:03 |
| Serega | so, guys, I set it to 5? right? | 00:03 |
| * Serega is confused | 00:03 | |
| * Riddell wanders back from a hard night's rocking | 00:04 | |
| ScottK2 | Does the package actually need debhelper 5? | 00:04 |
| * Serega envys Riddell | 00:04 | |
| apachelogger | yuriy: has to be changed to qt4-2 | 00:04 |
| Serega | ScottK2: it builds with 4 very well | 00:04 |
| yuriy | apachelogger: ok, will do | 00:04 |
| ScottK2 | My advice would be leave it, but your looking for apachelogger to advocate it, so I'd recommend doing what he says. | 00:05 |
| apachelogger | ScottK2: from a teching point of view I would now suggest bumping it ;-) | 00:05 |
| Serega | okay. Actually, I tend to ScottK2's approach | 00:06 |
| Serega | but will not argue | 00:06 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 00:06 |
| apachelogger | you are doing the packaging :P | 00:06 |
| Serega | :p | 00:06 |
| apachelogger | I am just here to take care you don't break anything | 00:06 |
| Serega | done | 00:08 |
| Serega | all done | 00:08 |
| apachelogger | Serega: what is the purpose of debian/qsynth.desktop? | 00:08 |
| Serega | apachelogger: oh... it's trash | 00:09 |
| Serega | I wonder where is debian/patched came from :-\ | 00:10 |
| apachelogger | you probably run a debuild? | 00:11 |
| Serega | nevermind... just cleaned | 00:11 |
| apachelogger | icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/qsynth.xpm" | 00:11 |
| Serega | yes, indeed | 00:11 |
| apachelogger | in debian/menu | 00:11 |
| apachelogger | you don't create the xpm file anywhere | 00:11 |
| Serega | oh... | 00:11 |
| Serega | can I specify png? | 00:11 |
| apachelogger | I doubt it | 00:12 |
| apachelogger | though, I am not a debian/menu specialist | 00:12 |
| Serega | \sh told xpm necessary for debian | 00:13 |
| apachelogger | http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/ch3.html#s3.7 | 00:13 |
| apachelogger | The icons should be in xpm format. | 00:13 |
| Serega | I will create debian/qsynth.xpm now | 00:13 |
| apachelogger | k | 00:14 |
| Riddell | .xpm doesn't matter for ubuntu | 00:14 |
| Riddell | or rather debian menu doesn't | 00:14 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: not even for fuxbox and stuff? | 00:14 |
| apachelogger | *fluxbox | 00:14 |
| Riddell | fluxbox should use the xdg standard like the rest of the world | 00:14 |
| apachelogger | well, should | 00:15 |
| apachelogger | anyway, Serega, you can drop the menu stuff if you want | 00:15 |
| Serega | apachelogger: where is this menu displayed? | 00:16 |
| Serega | synaptic/adept? | 00:16 |
| Riddell | it's not (unless you install xdg-menu, which we don't, dunno if debian does) | 00:16 |
| * apachelogger rebuilds kde-nightly-kdebase | 00:17 | |
| ScottK2 | OTOH, supporting Debian Menu in the package isn't bad and getting it right now will make it easier to get it into Debian later. | 00:17 |
| Riddell | true | 00:17 |
| Serega | I obey "man uscan" but get an error: | 00:26 |
| Serega | http://qa.debian.org/watch/sf.php/qsynth/ failed: 500 read timeout | 00:26 |
| Serega | or warning... | 00:26 |
| ScottK2 | The sourceforge stuff has been timing out a lot lately. I shouldn't let it bother you if you've got it right. | 00:27 |
| Serega | http://sf.net/qsynth/qsynth-src-(.+)\.tar\.gz debian uupdate | 00:27 |
| Serega | must be ok | 00:27 |
| Serega | can I get public ftp somewhere in LP or else? | 00:28 |
| ryanakca | santiago-ve: pong | 00:39 |
| santiago-ve | ryanakca, any news from the sysadmins? about the website? | 00:40 |
| Serega | apachelogger: I'm ready to upload to revu | 00:41 |
| ryanakca | santiago-ve: I haven't heard back from Riddell yet, but my guess is no... We'll have to wait 'till Monday... or Tuesday... or July... some day hopefully :/ | 00:42 |
| yuriy | I bet if Ubuntu wanted to install a new website they wouldn't have to wait for three months after the release | 00:43 |
| * Serega goes to sleep | 00:45 | |
| Serega | see you all tomorrow | 00:45 |
| santiago-ve | Serega, this is the moment when i feel envy... | 00:45 |
| santiago-ve | :( | 00:45 |
| * santiago-ve hasnt slept... but only like 1 hr at work xD | 00:46 | |
| Serega | santiago-ve: c'mon give a rest to your organism! | 00:46 |
| santiago-ve | Serega, will do, as soon as a meeting on #ubuntu-ve is over | 00:47 |
| yuriy | hmm any ideas? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15096624/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-lpia.kdebindings-kde4_4%3A4.0.5-0ubuntu1~hardy1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 01:03 |
| yuriy | I think I had that error locally as well when i ran debuild -j2, but then I ran debuild again and it was fine | 01:03 |
| yuriy | hmm ok I think other archs built though | 01:06 |
| nosrednaekim | don't worry about lpia.... who ises it anyway? | 01:07 |
| yuriy | which makes all the modules | 01:07 |
| yuriy | please test! | 01:07 |
| yuriy | deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-updates-testing/ubuntu hardy main | 01:07 |
| ryanakca | How could one build knmap on a host without internet access? The manpage is in docbook format and http://paste.debian.net/5585/ | 01:28 |
| jjesse | evening | 02:02 |
| stdin | yuriy: don't forget python-kde4 | 02:04 |
| jjesse | wow some crazy thunderstorm tonight | 02:10 |
| RameTux | its morning here in indonesia :D | 02:16 |
| nixternal | !nixternal | 04:18 |
| ubottu | Oh no! The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived! He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too! | 04:18 |
| crimsun | orly | 04:18 |
| nixternal | ya, now reply to my core-dev app, you are still a hero in my eyes :) | 04:18 |
| nixternal | !nixternal |nixternal | 04:19 |
| crimsun | eh, my correspondence really doesn't mean anything these days. :) | 04:19 |
| nixternal | sure it does | 04:19 |
| nixternal | plus w/o them, my app gets kicked back :) | 04:19 |
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| yuriy | stdin: python-kde4 was never backported for 4.0.4 either | 07:00 |
| mornfall | nixternal: Can I have the code, please? :) | 07:11 |
| nixternal | mornfall: what code? | 07:11 |
| mornfall | [17:47] nixternal | #kubuntu-dev % I had created a plasmoid for adept notifier | 07:11 |
| nixternal | ahh ya, I gotta recreate that, *had* means I don't have it any more...I was in the wrong tty and accidentally purged the wrong directory | 07:11 |
| nixternal | it wasn't hard to create, nor did it take long either | 07:11 |
| mornfall | ... Ouch. | 07:12 |
| nixternal | I wish I would have still had it opened in Kate | 07:12 |
| nixternal | then I wouldn't have lost it | 07:12 |
| * Jucato wonders if nixternal should start aliasing rm to rm -i (or vice versa) | 07:13 | |
| nixternal | hehe | 07:13 |
| Jucato | it's becoming a habit it seems :) | 07:13 |
| nixternal | I know have my ~/dev setup in svn | 07:13 |
| nixternal | ya, I had even started working with Plasma::Animator for the icon on update and checking update as well | 07:14 |
| nixternal_ | hrmm | 07:20 |
| nixternal_ | why does KDevelop hate me? | 07:20 |
| flaccid | Jucato: do you recommend any certain qt options for qt-copy | 07:21 |
| nixternal_ | read the README.qt-copy | 07:21 |
| nixternal_ | there is a configure portion towards the top that is good | 07:21 |
| flaccid | just wondering if anything outside of that.. | 07:22 |
| flaccid | or in particular, but cheers! | 07:22 |
| flaccid | i have kde3 and kde4.1 pkgs on this system, just remove the kde4 pkgs before install and kde3 can remain? | 07:22 |
| flaccid | im trying to compile qt-copy with ./configure -qt-gif -debug -fast -no-exceptions -no-separate-debug-info -system-libpng -system-libjpeg -system-zlib -dbus -webkit -no-phonon -nomake examples -nomake demos -prefix $QTDIR and getting shift: 1779: can't shift that many , also $QTDIR appears to be blank | 07:47 |
| flaccid | wouldn't mind asking about the suggested script here which doesn't seem to be correct: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Kubuntu_and_Debian | 07:56 |
| Jucato | flaccid: did you copy the sample .bashrc as instructed by the guide? | 08:09 |
| Jucato | you're supposed to be the one that sets $QTDIR | 08:09 |
| flaccid | must of overlooked that thanks | 08:11 |
| flaccid | ah i skipped over that for some reason heh | 08:12 |
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| Serega | heya | 09:07 |
| \sh | apachelogger, pingeling quassel ... don't upload the package you prepared please...it's crashing in the settings dlg...I'm trying to address this somehow with a recent git checkout | 09:20 |
| \sh | .oO(or I just kick sput in his guts to fix it ;)) | 09:21 |
| apachelogger | \sh: I'd go with the latter | 09:21 |
| apachelogger | \sh: but I think we should get the package in | 09:21 |
| \sh | apachelogger, if you can wait a couple of minutes... | 09:22 |
| apachelogger | otherwise I have to start waiting for accepting all over again instead of just uploading to the archive ;-) | 09:22 |
| apachelogger | \sh: it's already uploaded | 09:22 |
| \sh | argl | 09:22 |
| \sh | ok | 09:22 |
| \sh | ^^ | 09:22 |
| \sh | let's update it then when it's out of NEW | 09:22 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 09:22 |
| apachelogger | makes more sense then rejecting and reuploading IMO | 09:22 |
| * apachelogger puts that issue on a knote | 09:23 | |
| \sh | there are other things I'm trying to fix (I promised sput to do some work on it) | 09:23 |
| apachelogger | oh, nice :) | 09:23 |
| \sh | apachelogger, as well: channel listbox should be configurable (sorted / unsorted) | 09:23 |
| \sh | btw...it works well with dircproxy ;) | 09:24 |
| \sh | mirrors are updating... | 09:24 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 09:24 |
| apachelogger | oh | 09:24 |
| apachelogger | ah | 09:24 |
| \sh | kde4 trunk -> kdevelop new world order is building | 09:25 |
| apachelogger | \sh: btw, do you use a different kdehome for your trunk installation? | 09:25 |
| \sh | apachelogger, I switch to KDEs advice with a new user... | 09:25 |
| apachelogger | k | 09:25 |
| \sh | starting the crap now via Xinit | 09:25 |
| apachelogger | I squashed a super nasty issue last night | 09:25 |
| * \sh too | 09:26 | |
| apachelogger | even though there is only one variable for kdehome nowadays | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | startkde was not using it in any way | 09:26 |
| \sh | ate too many onions...and a spider died passing me | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | but just assuming one wants to use .kde :S | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | \sh: ^_^ | 09:26 |
| \sh | just joking ;) | 09:26 |
| apachelogger | \sh: http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/kde-nightly.ogg | 09:26 |
| \sh | damn | 09:31 |
| Serega | apachelogger: hey | 09:32 |
| apachelogger | hoy Serega | 09:33 |
| Serega | apachelogger: I'm going to upload now to the revu, ok? | 09:33 |
| apachelogger | sure | 09:33 |
| apachelogger | I am revuing right now anway :D | 09:33 |
| Serega | :) | 09:33 |
| Serega | btw, where are kde-nightly* packages? I have no such. Anyone's ppa? | 09:34 |
| apachelogger | they are in-development | 09:34 |
| apachelogger | *yawn* | 09:35 |
| \sh | apachelogger, btw...I do like the stripes in the oxygene window titlebar...I wonder how we can apply it again in kubuntu.. | 09:35 |
| * \sh needs coffee | 09:36 | |
| apachelogger | \sh: one of the amarok devs said the strips remind him on amiga :D | 09:36 |
| \sh | yes | 09:36 |
| \sh | but it really looks nice | 09:36 |
| apachelogger | though, I am more wondering how we can remove it again in kubuntu | 09:36 |
| \sh | much better then ozone with blue and the oxygen theme in total grey | 09:37 |
| \sh | apachelogger, in the ppa packages it's removed | 09:37 |
| apachelogger | \sh: 4.1 beta1? | 09:37 |
| \sh | apachelogger, yes | 09:37 |
| apachelogger | I think it wasn't in there | 09:37 |
| apachelogger | that is a quite new addition | 09:37 |
| * Nightrose doesnt like the blue | 09:37 | |
| apachelogger | and a quite ugly one as well | 09:37 |
| \sh | apachelogger, the stripes? | 09:37 |
| apachelogger | \sh: yes | 09:38 |
| \sh | hmm | 09:38 |
| \sh | I want to have them ;) | 09:38 |
| apachelogger | well | 09:38 |
| Serega | woohoo! "Successfully uploaded packages" | 09:38 |
| \sh | Nightrose, the ozone + blue theme? | 09:38 |
| apachelogger | they are | 09:38 |
| apachelogger | too heavy | 09:38 |
| apachelogger | the thing is, one strip, going big in the center of the deco and very tiny on the edges | 09:38 |
| \sh | if it was kwwiis idea...he has the clue about the life, the universe and the style ;) | 09:38 |
| apachelogger | would probably look quite cool | 09:38 |
| apachelogger | but these 3 lines ... | 09:39 |
| Nightrose | \sh: yea the one in beta 1 | 09:39 |
| \sh | Nightrose, this blue is crap | 09:39 |
| Nightrose | also i don't get 3 stripes but totally blue borders | 09:39 |
| apachelogger | plus they have an awkward effect in moving the expected window center | 09:39 |
| Nightrose | switched back to oxygen | 09:39 |
| apachelogger | when you look at the stripes, you will notice that the blue is stronger on the left half of the window | 09:40 |
| apachelogger | while the fading is longer on the right side | 09:40 |
| apachelogger | so you have a light effect in the very window center as a combination of oxygen deco + oxygen style | 09:40 |
| apachelogger | and a wrong window center created by the stripes in the deco | 09:41 |
| apachelogger | TBH this doesn't make the stripes look any better from my POV | 09:41 |
| \sh | apachelogger, but in general it looks better with something in the titlebar...only grey isn't fun and it gives us a nice different touch then mac | 09:42 |
| apachelogger | bug 231731 | 09:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 231731 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] arora" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/231731 | 09:42 |
| apachelogger | \sh: I agree on that, but the current approach is just not.... oxygen | 09:42 |
| \sh | kwwii, please fix ;) | 09:43 |
| apachelogger | Serega: oh, btw, did you file a needs-packaging bug? | 09:43 |
| apachelogger | kwwii: please fix | 09:43 |
| \sh | hmmm...it's a bit strange then I'm listening to a german group named Dschingis Khan? | 09:44 |
| \sh | yes it is | 09:44 |
| apachelogger | np: Justice - Stress (Auto Remix) | 09:44 |
| apachelogger | that is a fantastic remix | 09:44 |
| * apachelogger should port revu-report to ruby and make it work properly | 09:45 | |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: \sh: http://lydiapintscher.de/tmp/ozone.png | 09:45 |
| * \sh has a compilation here of a lot of 80ties music ;) | 09:45 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: IMO even that looks better than the stripes | 09:45 |
| \sh | Nightrose, the stripes are in oxygen and trunk... | 09:45 |
| \sh | nah | 09:45 |
| \sh | the blue scares me | 09:46 |
| \sh | it reminds me of my mental state | 09:46 |
| apachelogger | ^_^ | 09:46 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: please upgrade | 09:46 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: nah ;-) | 09:46 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: the neon sandbox for kde should b working once again | 09:46 |
| Nightrose | i will just stay with oxygen | 09:46 |
| Nightrose | ah cool | 09:46 |
| apachelogger | and you should get a session option in kdm | 09:46 |
| apachelogger | please check if everything works | 09:47 |
| Nightrose | by logging in? | 09:47 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 09:47 |
| Nightrose | i will not do that today | 09:47 |
| apachelogger | meh | 09:47 |
| apachelogger | why not? | 09:47 |
| Nightrose | no time to fix a broken system ;-) | 09:47 |
| Nightrose | sorry | 09:47 |
| apachelogger | well | 09:47 |
| apachelogger | use a different user?! :P | 09:47 |
| * apachelogger loves his VMs | 09:48 | |
| Nightrose | hmmmm could do later | 09:48 |
| apachelogger | makes testing so much more easy | 09:48 |
| * \sh switches to trunk...now :) | 09:54 | |
| \sh | brb | 09:54 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: btw, you will have to install kde-nightly | 09:57 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: i already have it installed ;-) | 09:57 |
| Nightrose | but why will i have to? | 09:58 |
| apachelogger | the package I mean | 09:58 |
| Nightrose | ah ok | 09:58 |
| apachelogger | it ships the xsession file and startneonkde | 09:58 |
| Nightrose | alright | 09:58 |
| Nightrose | off to shower - bbiab | 09:58 |
| Serega | apachelogger: no, I didn't. must I? | 10:04 |
| apachelogger | well | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | you should | 10:05 |
| apachelogger | but you don't have to as it is not a completely new package | 10:05 |
| * Serega is going to... well karma can't be enough ;) | 10:06 | |
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| \sh | yeeha...trunk is running | 10:23 |
| Arby | anybody got time to help me figure out why ktorrent won't build | 10:28 |
| Arby | the error is http://paste.ubuntu.com/17876/ | 10:28 |
| Arby | the patch that fails to apply is http://paste.ubuntu.com/17877/ | 10:29 |
| Arby | and I have no idea what the problem is | 10:29 |
| apachelogger | Serega: did you really dput to revu? | 10:30 |
| apachelogger | the package still didn't show up | 10:30 |
| Serega | apachelogger: yup, revu.ubuntuwire.com | 10:31 |
| apachelogger | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=qsynth | 10:32 |
| apachelogger | nothing there | 10:32 |
| Riddell | Arby: does the changelog say what that patch is for? | 10:32 |
| Serega | apachelogger: here is a log of the upload: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17878/ | 10:32 |
| Arby | Riddell: yes, hang on | 10:33 |
| Arby | Riddell: changelog http://paste.ubuntu.com/17880/ | 10:34 |
| Arby | all of the problems I've hit have been related to the embedding of libbtcore | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | Serega: maybe revu is hungry and eating uploads ;-) | 10:34 |
| Serega | apachelogger: maybe retry?) | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | well | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | you should have a .upload file | 10:34 |
| apachelogger | what does thatone say? | 10:35 |
| Serega | apachelogger: all successfully | 10:35 |
| apachelogger | well | 10:35 |
| Riddell | Arby: looks like the patch can be safely removed, it's just there to hide the name so nothing else uses it | 10:36 |
| apachelogger | Serega: you could ask a revu admin to check | 10:36 |
| apachelogger | or we could just wait | 10:36 |
| Arby | Riddell: oh, ok | 10:36 |
| Arby | let me try to rebuild then | 10:36 |
| Serega | apachelogger: Im going to ask on #ubuntu-motu according to http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/ | 10:39 |
| apachelogger | Serega: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU somewhere at the bottom you find a list of revu admins | 10:39 |
| apachelogger | s/bottom/middle | 10:40 |
| Arby | Riddell: progress. new error now http://paste.ubuntu.com/17882/ | 10:40 |
| Arby | Riddell: debian/rules has http://paste.ubuntu.com/17883/ | 10:40 |
| Arby | which looks different to what I'm used to | 10:41 |
| Serega | apachelogger: let's wait for now, I'll be away for a hour though | 10:42 |
| Riddell | Arby: there must have been an error further up in the outpt | 10:44 |
| Arby | ok let me look | 10:44 |
| Arby | Riddell: | 10:45 |
| Arby | CMake Error at libbtcore/CMakeLists.txt:411 (add_subdirectory): | 10:45 |
| Arby | add_subdirectory given source "cmake" which is not an existing directory. | 10:45 |
| apachelogger | Serega: sure | 10:45 |
| Arby | Riddell: the complete output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/17887/ | 10:47 |
| Riddell | Arby: what's in libbtcore/CMakeLists.txt:411 ? | 10:49 |
| Arby | Riddell: line 411 is add_subdirectory(cmake) | 10:50 |
| Arby | do you want the whole file | 10:50 |
| Riddell | no | 10:51 |
| Riddell | Arby: do you have libbtcore/cmake/modules/FindBTCore.cmake ? | 10:52 |
| Arby | Riddell: no, there is no cmake directory under libbtcore. | 10:53 |
| Riddell | Arby: have you edited debian/patches/libbtcore/01_libbtcore_export.diff | 10:54 |
| Riddell | ? | 10:54 |
| Riddell | that's what should make libbtcore/cmake/modules/FindBTCore.cmake | 10:54 |
| Arby | Riddell: ahhh, I think that might be it. I read that as patching a file that didn't exist. my bad :( | 10:55 |
| Arby | let me try again with the original | 10:55 |
| Arby | Riddell: now we get http://paste.ubuntu.com/17894/ | 10:59 |
| Arby | which is what made me think it was wrong in the first place | 10:59 |
| Riddell | Arby: hrm, I think upstream has changed things around since that patch was made | 11:03 |
| Riddell | Arby: just drop the patch for now, it shouldn't be needed if the package is keeping btcore private | 11:04 |
| Arby | Riddell: ok, rebuilding | 11:04 |
| Arby | looks promising | 11:08 |
| * Riddell holds breath | 11:10 | |
| Arby | Riddell: probably not advisable given the speed of this machine :) | 11:12 |
| Arby | Riddell: assuming it builds what do I do next? | 11:13 |
| Arby | I seem to have totally bypassed debian | 11:13 |
| Arby | I thought that was bad | 11:13 |
| Arby | Riddell: arrgh fail http://paste.ubuntu.com/17914/ | 11:18 |
| Arby | Riddell: the reason is that the package now has libbtcore.so.6 | 11:18 |
| Riddell | Arby: this is progress indeed, it means it's all compiled | 11:19 |
| Riddell | Arby: edit debian/ktorrent.install | 11:19 |
| Riddell | debuild -nc | 11:19 |
| Arby | what does -nc do? | 11:19 |
| Arby | and could you explain how you know it's all compiled | 11:20 |
| Arby | in my mind error message == failure | 11:20 |
| * Arby --> man debuild | 11:21 | |
| Arby | Riddell: debuild -nc throws the same error, is that what you expected? | 11:22 |
| Riddell | -nc is no clear | 11:22 |
| Riddell | so it doesn't have to compile it again | 11:22 |
| Riddell | did you edit debian/ktorrent.install ? | 11:22 |
| Arby | no | 11:22 |
| Riddell | then I would expect it to fail :) | 11:23 |
| Riddell | you can tell it has compiled the app since it has started to install the files and make the .debs | 11:24 |
| Arby | ok, all good education :) | 11:24 |
| Arby | so I need to fix ktorrent.install | 11:25 |
| Arby | ? | 11:25 |
| Riddell | yes, change the filename to the new version number | 11:25 |
| Arby | Riddell: next error http://paste.ubuntu.com/17932/ | 11:34 |
| Arby | Riddell: I'm guessing the key is 'To help dpkg-shlibdeps find private libraries, you might need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH' | 11:35 |
| Arby | but how to do that | 11:35 |
| Arby | export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$something | 11:35 |
| Arby | ? | 11:35 |
| Riddell | shouldn't need to, it's in /usr/lib | 11:36 |
| Riddell | pastebin ktorrent.install ? | 11:36 |
| Arby | Riddell: | 11:37 |
| Arby | http://paste.ubuntu.com/17937/ | 11:37 |
| Riddell | Arby: it doesn't include libbtcore.so.6 | 11:38 |
| Arby | oh yes, I misread kt as bt. oops sorry | 11:38 |
| Riddell | add back .6 and 6.0.0 | 11:39 |
| Riddell | debuild -nc | 11:39 |
| Arby | Riddell: I think we have success :) | 11:42 |
| Arby | debsign faied but everything else seems ok | 11:42 |
| Riddell | excellent | 11:43 |
| Riddell | install the .debs | 11:43 |
| Riddell | see if it runs | 11:43 |
| Riddell | if so debuild -S -sa and upload the .orig .dsc and .diff.gz somewhere I can get them (copy to my machine if you want) | 11:45 |
| Arby | Riddell: hmm, dependancy errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/17948/ | 11:46 |
| Arby | requires kdebase-runtime but that is uninstallable | 11:46 |
| * Arby pokes apt-get with a sharp stick | 11:47 | |
| Riddell | ah well, such are the problems when working with the development release | 11:48 |
| Riddell | we'll just have to assume it works, send me the files and I'll upload | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | meh | 11:59 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: http://pastebin.com/m8cb0bae guidance-power-manager won't start :( | 12:00 |
| Arby | Riddell: the files are on lichts | 12:00 |
| Arby | I'm not certain the changelog will be right | 12:00 |
| Arby | and I haven't changed any info in debian/control either | 12:00 |
| Arby | Riddell: if I need to fix those ^^ let me know I have to go out now | 12:01 |
| Arby | Riddell: thanks for all the help :) | 12:01 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: kde4 version? | 12:01 |
| apachelogger | a|wen: yes | 12:02 |
| * a|wen is relieved | 12:03 | |
| * apachelogger isn't | 12:03 | |
| apachelogger | other question: should new kde4 packages get a -kde4 suffix? | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | or just replace the kde3 version | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | considering 4 is stable of course | 12:04 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: have you managed to get it to build a .deb ? | 12:04 |
| a|wen | or are you just playing around in the source tree | 12:05 |
| apachelogger | usually I test software before I package it | 12:05 |
| apachelogger | prevents wasted time ;-) | 12:05 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: heh ... got a point :) | 12:06 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: you could try exchanging the mentioned line with "from PyKDE4.kdecore import *" as a temporary measure | 12:07 |
| apachelogger | breaks again | 12:08 |
| apachelogger | well | 12:08 |
| apachelogger | I guess python-kde4 in intrepid is b0rked | 12:08 |
| apachelogger | just like everything else | 12:08 |
| a|wen | doesn't sound unlikely ;) | 12:09 |
| apachelogger | http://aplg.kollide.net/screencasts/kopete-bonjour.ogg | 12:09 |
| a|wen | apachelogger: what do you use to grab the screen? | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | recordmydesktop | 12:10 |
| a|wen | brilliant name | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | indeed | 12:11 |
| Riddell | Arby: I don't see the .orig | 12:12 |
| \sh | apachelogger: could it be that amarok2 svn from just now has problems with sqlite? | 12:31 |
| apachelogger | \sh: everything is possible, what's the problem? | 12:46 |
| === jpetso_away is now known as jpetso | ||
| Nightrose | nixternal_: do you have a new package for kde-network in the queue? cause kopete doesn't open message windows instantly when you receive a message in kde 4.1 beta 1 - i reported the error and it was fixed by upstream | 14:45 |
| Nightrose | nixternal_: so if you are going to upload a new package of it please consider adding that patch | 14:46 |
| gribelu | umm kdm-kde4 can't be stopped using "/etc/init.d/kdm-kde4 stop" -> Stopping K Display Manager: kdm-kde4 not running (/var/run/kdm-kde4.pid not found). | 15:23 |
| gribelu | known bug? | 15:23 |
| DreadKnight | gribelu: should be... | 15:31 |
| DreadKnight | can't restart x from kdm-kde4 with ctrl + alt + backspace... | 15:31 |
| DreadKnight | it hungs like that... ffs.. | 15:31 |
| DreadKnight | the new version of kmilo-kde4 is still useless on "my" lenovo laptop... | 15:32 |
| apachelogger | DreadKnight: you could make it work | 15:33 |
| apachelogger | see the patches for kmilo | 15:33 |
| DreadKnight | i'm not a coder... it's a burden for me to patch up source etc | 15:33 |
| DreadKnight | need help on that xD | 15:34 |
| DreadKnight | (multimedia keys not working) | 15:34 |
| * apachelogger throws code at DreadKnight | 15:34 | |
| DreadKnight | xD | 15:34 |
| apachelogger | find someone to do it then :P | 15:34 |
| DreadKnight | i should find out where to get the code from and compile it... | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | you just need to port the appropriate patches from kmilo to kmilo-kde4 | 15:35 |
| DreadKnight | :D | 15:35 |
| DreadKnight | right | 15:35 |
| apachelogger | uhhh, fancy cron management kcm in 4.1 | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | shiny | 15:37 |
| DreadKnight | yey | 15:41 |
| DreadKnight | too bad i never use it | 15:41 |
| DreadKnight | it should have been "kron" ^^... the one in kde3 was ekkkk | 15:42 |
| DreadKnight | nevermind the name suggestion | 15:42 |
| apachelogger | omg, my imap slave died | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | omg | 15:44 |
| apachelogger | omg | 15:44 |
| DreadKnight | omg for me too... | 15:46 |
| Serega | apachelogger: qsynth is appeared in the revu finally | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | cool | 15:48 |
| * apachelogger tunes in revu music | 15:48 | |
| Serega | apachelogger: what is a purpose of "need repackage" bugreport? | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | np: Rancid - Red Hot Moon | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | Serega: peopel can track progress | 15:48 |
| Serega | ho-ho, Rancid... | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | so one doesn't end up with duplicated effort | 15:48 |
| Serega | aw... nice | 15:48 |
| apachelogger | before packaging you should always check/report a needs-packaging bug and assign it to you | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | s/you/yourself | 15:49 |
| Serega | damn can't find where I saw that qsynth is orphaned :( | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | hm? | 15:53 |
| apachelogger | Serega: btw, current debian/watch version should be 3 | 15:53 |
| Serega | apachelogger: hm... I considered this as a new package, so... I will rename if needed | 15:54 |
| apachelogger | now I am confused | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | Serega: what do you want to rename? | 15:55 |
| Serega | I thought you are talking about qsynth_0.3.2_3ubuntu1 | 15:55 |
| Serega | instead of 0ubuntu1 | 15:55 |
| Serega | no? | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | Serega: debian/watch | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | I didn't look at debian/control yet ;-) | 15:56 |
| Serega | ah... it's file | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | ehh | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | debian/changelog | 15:56 |
| apachelogger | Serega: lol | 15:56 |
| Serega | sorry :) | 15:56 |
| Serega | apachelogger: changed. what now? just upload? | 15:57 |
| Serega | og I have to raise the version now? | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | I'll probably find more :P | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | Serega: no | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | only bump the version once the package is in the archive | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | so once the current version is in and you change something and bump the version | 15:58 |
| Serega | ok, so just poke me if you find something or some actions are needed from me | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | and you stick to that version number with all changes until this version got into the archive as well | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | Serega: well, fix that 3ubuntu1 :P | 15:58 |
| Serega | it is 0ubuntu1, I didn't changed anything :) | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | ok | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | Serega: did you steal the debian/copyright from debian? | 15:59 |
| Serega | mostly | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | that means? | 16:00 |
| ryanakca | to go from docbook->man at build on a system without internet access, should I change the DTD in the docbook file to point to /usr/share/sgml/docbook/dtd/4.5/docbook.dtd ? | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | hm, pbuilding and compiling koffice is apparently a bas thing to do | 16:00 |
| Serega | apachelogger: I have added the Copyright and last paragraph about package copyright (\sh adviced me that) | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | ok | 16:01 |
| ryanakca | (see the error from building knmap : http://paste.debian.net/5585/ ) | 16:01 |
| apachelogger | Serega: if you want you can set yourself as XSBC-Original-Maintainer in debian/control | 16:03 |
| apachelogger | Serega: did you remove the note about Qt Designer yet? :P | 16:04 |
| Serega | apachelogger: what does it actually mean? actually I'm not a debian maintainer (but I would). I like the idea. | 16:04 |
| apachelogger | well, this XSBC-orig-maint is actually ubuntu-only AFAIK | 16:05 |
| apachelogger | usually it's used for the debian maintainer | 16:05 |
| apachelogger | so if we change a debian package | 16:05 |
| apachelogger | the debian maintainer shouldn't be primary contact anymore | 16:05 |
| Serega | apachelogger: nope, authors of the software represent it in exactly same way, but maybe we should correct this, agree | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | so we move the debian maintainer to XSBC and add Ubuntu MOTU or Core Devs to the Maintainer field | 16:06 |
| Serega | apachelogger: so I set this to me | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | yup | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | so people can get in touch with you in case they have questions or stuff | 16:06 |
| apachelogger | it's mainly for internal use really | 16:07 |
| apachelogger | Serega: no, absolutely no one is interessted if an application was designed using Qt Designer | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | that is at it's best just useless information | 16:08 |
| apachelogger | Serega: btw, debian/control Qt4 -> Qt 4 | 16:09 |
| Serega | corrected | 16:10 |
| * Serega tries 3rd variant of bugreport description... | 16:10 | |
| * Serega doesn't want to wound former maintainer feelings | 16:12 | |
| apachelogger | Serega: debian/compt says 5, but you depend on debhelper >= 4 | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | the thing is, debehlper 4 can not run in compability mode 5 ;-) | 16:16 |
| apachelogger | question is | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | Serega: what is debian/dirs for? | 16:18 |
| apachelogger | Serega: dh_desktop in debian/rules doesn't do anything | 16:20 |
| apachelogger | Serega: W: qsynth: binary-without-manpage usr/bin/qsynth | 16:21 |
| === kewark is now known as krawek | ||
| apachelogger | Serega: btw, did you notify upstream about the desktop file issue? | 16:30 |
| Serega | apachelogger: does debian/compat mean debhelper major veersion? | 16:35 |
| Serega | so I have to specify 5.0.0? | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | in the build-dep, yes | 16:35 |
| Serega | apachelogger: debian/dirs just copied from the old package. Now I'm googling about this file | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | Serega: man dh_installdirs | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | dh_installdirs is a debhelper program that is responsible for creating subdirectories in package build directories. | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | A file named debian/package.dirs can list directories to be created. | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | Serega: the directories dirs currently is listing are necessary for actual make install | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | but | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | make install is using the 'install' command | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | which is creating the directories | 16:39 |
| Serega | aha... that was a question :) | 16:39 |
| Serega | so I remove it | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | the only use would to create usr/share/pixmaps | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | but since you use install for the xpm file as well, that is pretty much pointless as well | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | uh, my english is suffering from too loud music :D | 16:41 |
| Serega | apachelogger: it's much better than my though :) | 16:42 |
| Serega | apachelogger: I saw the manual page for dh_desktop (Currently doesn't handle...) but looks like it works for me | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | Serega: well | 16:43 |
| Serega | I have tested binary builds | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | dh_desktop does nothing | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | i.e. it should be removed from debian/rules | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | as it, attention loop, does nothing | 16:43 |
| Serega | bah... | 16:44 |
| Serega | it is in the Makefile.in | 16:44 |
| Serega | :) | 16:44 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: do you think you can get neon for suse working until 15th for the bugday? | 16:44 |
| * Serega believes in magic... dumb | 16:44 | |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: kubuntu education > neon for suse | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: just find someone to create the specs | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | everything else is done | 16:45 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: ;-) | 16:45 |
| Nightrose | i see | 16:45 |
| Nightrose | ok will try when i have a free minute | 16:45 |
| Nightrose | working on the wiki page for bug day now | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | add some nice pictures | 16:45 |
| Nightrose | hehe | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: and did that sebner guy join the team yet? | 16:45 |
| Nightrose | he went to bed yesterday and said good morning today | 16:46 |
| Nightrose | besides that nothing | 16:46 |
| Nightrose | as he didn't really decide what he wants to do | 16:46 |
| Nightrose | will bug him later | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | considering the upcoming bug day ... bugging someone gets a totally different meaning for me :P | 16:47 |
| Nightrose | heh | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | Serega: add a manpage and the package should be perfect ;-) | 16:50 |
| Serega | apachelogger: lovely! actually I thought about this | 16:54 |
| Serega | apachelogger: I guess I must remove dh_installdirs as I have no .dirs files, right? | 16:55 |
| apachelogger | hm | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | dh_installdirs | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | install -d debian/qsynth | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | install -d debian/qsynth/usr/bin debian/qsynth/usr/share/applications/ | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | Serega: remove it and check whether the build breaks ;-) | 16:56 |
| apachelogger | shouldn't, but with autohell everything is possible | 16:56 |
| * apachelogger continues his interview for ubuntu-de | 16:57 | |
| Serega | $5 it will not break ;) | 16:58 |
| === bdgraue is now known as bdgraue-em | ||
| Serega | woohooo! | 17:01 |
| === quassel251 is now known as smarter | ||
| apachelogger | Serega: we usually only bet with >= 50 bucks :P | 17:24 |
| DaskreecH | or beer | 17:24 |
| Serega | hey, I'm from Ukraine :) | 17:25 |
| Serega | beer is suitable | 17:25 |
| Serega | I won this time, anyway :p | 17:25 |
| Serega | manpage done | 17:38 |
| Serega | lintian relaxes | 17:38 |
| Serega | apachelogger: poke me please when you finish - I will upload | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | Serega: finish with? | 17:39 |
| Serega | apachelogger: review | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | aye | 17:39 |
| apachelogger | Serega: you will need a 2nd revu | 17:39 |
| * smarter waves | 17:39 | |
| apachelogger | so better get cookies ready for \sh ;-) | 17:40 |
| Serega | apachelogger: from another MOTU you mean? | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | or nixternal_, though nixternal_ is busy 24/7 | 17:40 |
| smarter | apachelogger: there's something wrong in your /opt/kde-nightly/cdbs/kde.mk | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | Serega: yes | 17:40 |
| smarter | DEB_DH_SHLIBDEPS_ARGS = -l/usr/lib/kde4/lib/ | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | hehe | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | indeed | 17:40 |
| Serega | apachelogger: so I can upload now, just dput as a first time? | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | smarter: doesn't have any effect though | 17:40 |
| smarter | doesn't seem so | 17:41 |
| smarter | but I don't understand what it is for ^^' | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | Serega: just like you did before | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | eventually you will have to dput with -f | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | as you uploaded once dput might complain | 17:41 |
| Serega | thank you, apachelogger! | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | smarter: me neither | 17:41 |
| * Serega brings a package of cookies | 17:41 | |
| apachelogger | smarter: oh, I think I know | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | sharedlibs within usr/lib/kde4/lib are probably not catched without it | 17:42 |
| smarter | but how does it catches /opt/kde-nightly/lib/ ? | 17:42 |
| apachelogger | rpath I guess | 17:42 |
| smarter | (by the way, thanks for these packages ;) ) | 17:44 |
| Serega | \sh: Stephan? | 17:47 |
| apachelogger | smarter: I am surprised they are actually working :D | 17:48 |
| apachelogger | Serega: looks good now, btw, you can/should kill changelog entry 2, 3 and 5 | 18:08 |
| apachelogger | as it is part of the repackaging | 18:08 |
| Serega | apachelogger: I'd like to leave 5 to take an attention of debian maintainer/future mergers | 18:12 |
| Serega | what do you think? | 18:12 |
| apachelogger | well, doesn't the package differ a lot more | 18:12 |
| apachelogger | then you would have to document all the changes | 18:13 |
| apachelogger | and actually make it a merge again :P | 18:13 |
| Serega | apachelogger: I'm not sure I follow you | 18:15 |
| apachelogger | Serega: if you document such changes from the original debian package | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | you would have to document all changes | 18:16 |
| apachelogger | and that would make it more like a merge than a new package | 18:16 |
| Serega | it is rather a change from the upstream | 18:16 |
| Serega | okay, I delete it | 18:17 |
| apachelogger | Serega: well, almost no upstream GUI developer provides a manpage | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | and from my point of view, it doesn't make much sense at all | 18:28 |
| ScottK-laptop | But policy is policy. | 18:28 |
| apachelogger | exactly | 18:28 |
| DaskreecH | Khelpcentre> | 18:28 |
| nixternal_ | afternoon :) | 18:49 |
| * nixternal_ stayed up way to late last night | 18:49 | |
| Serega | hi nixternal_ | 18:50 |
| Serega | nixternal_: if somehow you have a piece of time, could you please give a revu for my package? | 18:51 |
| nixternal_ | Serega: do you have a link to your package? | 19:05 |
| Serega | nixternal_: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=qsynth | 19:05 |
| * jussi01 hugs Serega for packaging it :D | 19:06 | |
| * Serega hugs jussi01 too =) | 19:10 | |
| jussi01 | :) | 19:10 |
| jussi01 | !ndiswrapper | 19:11 |
| ubottu | Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 19:11 |
| nixternal_ | Serega: if the debian package is orphaned, why don't you maintain it? :) | 19:12 |
| Serega | nixternal_: I have done my first merge two days ago, and my first package yesterday. what maintaining are you talking about? :) | 19:13 |
| Serega | nixternal_: I would lovely though | 19:13 |
| nixternal_ | Serega: update the package and find a sponsor on Debian and then request a sync here :) | 19:16 |
| nixternal_ | package looks great though | 19:16 |
| Serega | nixternal_: thanks | 19:16 |
| nixternal_ | test building and installing now | 19:16 |
| Serega | nixternal_: apachelogger is a great coach =) | 19:16 |
| nixternal_ | err, can't install...I am not on intrepid :) | 19:16 |
| Serega | nixternal_: hm... it installs good on my system | 19:17 |
| Serega | just debuild -b | 19:17 |
| nixternal_ | nah, building with pbuilder to make sure it works...will install in a chroot | 19:17 |
| DaskreecH | can I mount swap explicitly? | 19:22 |
| DaskreecH | like mount -t swap /dev/sda2 ? | 19:22 |
| DaskreecH | or do I have to dop it into fstab then mount -a ? | 19:24 |
| Serega | nixternal_: what did you mean by "update the package"? | 19:29 |
| Serega | make it debian? | 19:29 |
| * Serega doesn't know what to do | 19:36 | |
| apachelogger | Serega: see nixternal's comment | 20:40 |
| Serega | apachelogger: saw | 20:40 |
| apachelogger | k | 20:40 |
| Serega | apachelogger: I have already prepared a debian package and sent an email to debian-devel@lists.debian.org | 20:41 |
| apachelogger | Serega: you might jump over to #debian-qt-kde on irc.debian.org | 20:41 |
| apachelogger | Serega: might be faster | 20:41 |
| Serega | apachelogger: oh, IRC is good, thanks! | 20:41 |
| Serega | apachelogger: maybe it's better to wait for reply if I have already sent a mail? | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | doesn't really matter IMO | 20:46 |
| Serega | apachelogger: I want take gqview to merge, is it ok? | 20:48 |
| apachelogger | Serega: yup | 20:48 |
| apachelogger | though the name sounds strange ;-) | 20:48 |
| apachelogger | gqview - A simple image viewer using GTK+ | 20:49 |
| DaskreecH | apachelogger: Just saw xcow on happypenguin. Written in Gtk+ | 20:49 |
| Serega | =) | 20:49 |
| Serega | damn | 20:49 |
| * Serega was confused with gwenview | 20:50 | |
| DaskreecH | Serega: and Kino | 20:51 |
| Serega | Kino afaik gtk+ too, right? | 20:52 |
| * Serega wonders authors never heard about K* names :) | 20:52 | |
| DaskreecH | Yep | 20:52 |
| * Serega declares KDE monopoly on K* names | 20:53 | |
| DaskreecH | atlantiK | 20:54 |
| Serega | not kde?! | 20:54 |
| DaskreecH | Ha ha | 20:54 |
| DaskreecH | that's the KDE monopoly game | 20:55 |
| DaskreecH | or was | 20:57 |
| Serega | is there a real need to keep merging or it's better to get to the coding? | 21:30 |
| a|wen | there doesn't really seem to be that many kde packages left to merge | 21:36 |
| a|wen | at least not in universe | 21:40 |
| DaskreecH | To the multiverse batman!!! | 21:41 |
| Serega | :) | 21:42 |
| * Serega is batman, lol :) | 21:42 | |
| a|wen | cool ... a total of 16 outstanding merges in multiverse | 21:43 |
| Riddell | Serega: extragear needing done too ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/4.0.80/src/extragear/ | 21:44 |
| Riddell | most of which are currently packaged as -kde4 packages | 21:44 |
| Serega | Riddell: ok. And what has higher priority: kaffeine bugfixing or this packaging stuff now? | 21:45 |
| DaskreecH | Ha ha | 21:45 |
| DaskreecH | my mom got locked out of her classes by Vista | 21:46 |
| DaskreecH | she can't gain access to it as a super user | 21:46 |
| Riddell | Serega: packaging at the start of the cycle, else it'll never get done | 21:47 |
| Riddell | we also don't know if we'll be using kaffeine in intrepid by default | 21:47 |
| Arby_ | Riddell: uploaded .orig file | 21:48 |
| Serega | Riddell: I thought it's for hardy updates. But okay, I'm glad to continue with packaging | 21:49 |
| ryanakca | ``style'' question. Is it permissible to include the DTD in a refentry manpage, or should I put the link instead? My argument for including the DTD is that anybody with the proper utility doesn't need to install a large package or have an internet connection to convert it to the manpage | 21:51 |
| ryanakca | refentry manpage == manpage written in Docbook | 21:51 |
| Serega | knite folks | 21:53 |
| DaskreecH | night k? | 21:53 |
| Serega | DaskreecH: KDE-styled "good night" :) | 21:59 |
| Riddell | ryanakca: doing that would lead to a lot of duplication over all packages | 22:36 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: ok, so should I put a link to the online DTD, or to the `docbook' package's /usr/share/sgml/docbook/dtd/4.5/docbook.dtd ? | 22:39 |
| Riddell | mm, dunno, whatever other packages do | 22:39 |
| ryanakca | Riddell: ok, thanks :) | 22:43 |
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