[00:01] <kiko> MvG, I think I retried and it failed then
[00:01] <kiko> let me see
[00:02] <kiko> MvG, are the source details still correct?
[00:02] <kiko> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/lirc/main
[00:03] <kiko> let's see how that goes
[00:03] <kiko-afk> afk for a bit
[02:31] <nxvl> hi
[02:31] <nxvl> there are some statstics from ppa
[02:31] <nxvl> for example how many users download some packages from the server
[04:38] <alecw1> I have a comment at https://bugs.launchpad.net/phpns/+bug/232319/comments/1 that I made via email, but I forgot to remove my signature, so my email is fully visible. Is there a way that the comment can be edited/removed?
[04:57] <jamesh> alecw1: your email address is hidden for people not logged in
[04:58] <jamesh> so should not show up to email scrapers
[04:58] <alecw1> jamesh: okay, that's perfect. thanks
[05:06] <gnomefreak> does anyone know how to get rid of Uncaught bounce notification? i removed his subscription from the mailing list but its still happening? 
[05:07] <gnomefreak> were talking over 70 a day flooding my inbox like crazy 
[05:08] <gnomefreak> and let me know if you need info from them i dont want to get rid of them if you need it.
[07:20] <Bodsda> hi, when trying to register my gpg key i received an email saying i needed to decrypt it, i use thunderbird so it said to use an add-on called EnigMail, but when i try this it says its not compatible with my thunderbir build, what should i do?
[07:32] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: what version of ubuntu and what tb version and was it from official repos?
[07:32] <leoquant> hi Bosda but you haven´t installed it yet?
[07:32] <Bodsda> sorry no it was from mozilla -- i just found out i can get it from repo's and everything is now running smoothly -- thanks anyway
[07:32]  * gnomefreak betting hes not using our versions
[07:33] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:33] <leoquant> indeed enigmail is in the off repos. als gnomefreak said
[07:33] <Bodsda> the latest mozilla version is not compatible at least not with the 64bit linux distrobution of thunderbird
[07:33] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: its better to ask those types of questions in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-mozillateam
[07:33] <gnomefreak> define latest?
[07:34] <Bodsda> did do with no answer and the email i recieved poitning meto the mozilla plug in was from launchpad so i asked here
[07:34] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/71
[07:34] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: trunk? nightly?
[07:34] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: i meant thunderbird
[07:34] <Bodsda> i have the latest version according to apt
[07:35] <leoquant> and its ok now?
[07:35] <Bodsda> yeah cheers
[07:35] <leoquant> becoming an ubutero?
[07:35] <gnomefreak> ah i see the issue
[07:35] <gnomefreak> they released a point release
[07:35] <Bodsda> yep ;~)
[07:35] <leoquant> is an launchpad matter
[07:35] <gnomefreak> and we havent built that one yet but will once i get sleep
[07:36] <leoquant> welcome!
[07:36] <gnomefreak> its 2:36 am
[07:36] <leoquant> lol :)
[07:36] <Bodsda> the email that launchpad sends needs to be edited to tell people not to installmozilla enigmail
[07:36] <Bodsda> ;~)
[07:36]  * gnomefreak all kinds of pissed off at LP atm
[07:36] <gnomefreak> more so the guy sending email 
[07:36] <Bodsda> repo's are always best ;_)
[07:36] <Bodsda> safest*
[07:37] <leoquant> indded Bosda
[07:37] <leoquant> eed
[07:43] <gnomefreak> leoquant: are you an LP dev, admin, user?
[07:43]  * gnomefreak thinks i need an admin but not sure
[07:47] <Bodsda> hey, having a slight problem signing the coc,.,. i downloaded the coc and moved to /home/bod/.coc/UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt theni enter the command     gpg --clearsign /home/bod/.coc/UbuntuCodeofConduct-1.0.1.txt      then i double click on the *.asc file which opens a "choose decrypted filename" save thing but whatever name i enter it says *.asc has no data 
[07:52] <Bodsda> what am i doing wrong?
[07:52] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: /me doesnt remember haveing to double click .asc
[07:52] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, instructions -- step 3, 4 -- https://launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0.1/+sign
[07:54] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: try moving it to your home dir outside of any other dir, did you try right clicking the file and choosing open? 
[07:55] <Bodsda> theres an "open with decrypt file" option instead of open but that and moving to new dir do the same thing,.,.it then creates the coc file again
[07:56] <gnomefreak> ok let me test this real fast
[07:56] <Bodsda> cheers
[07:58] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: ok it opens in gedit for me
[07:59] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: try in the dir that the .asc is run gedit Ubuntu........
[07:59] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: is that the part you are stuck on?
[07:59] <Bodsda> oh, it opens from terminal but its empty
[08:00] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: it shoudlnt be
[08:00] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: please remove the .asc and resign it
[08:00] <Bodsda> thats what i thought
[08:00] <Bodsda> ok
[08:00] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: also make sure the other file has the CoC in it
[08:01] <gnomefreak> just incase its a bad download
[08:01] <Bodsda> yes it does have the coc in the other file and the .asc is still empty
[08:01] <Bodsda> ive redownloaded the coc 3 times
[08:02] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: run gpg --list-keys   and make sure the key has same address as your LP page
[08:03] <Calvin> hello?
[08:03] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, im not sure what im looking for so could you take a look please -- http://pastebin.com/fc1abd4a
[08:03] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: yep
[08:03] <Bodsda> cheers
[08:04] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: can you give me your LP home page please
[08:04] <Bodsda> sure, 1 sec
[08:04] <gnomefreak> thanks
[08:04] <Bodsda> do you mean this? -- https://launchpad.net/~bodssocks
[08:05] <gnomefreak> yep that would be it
[08:05] <gnomefreak> i think ;)
[08:05] <Bodsda> ~)
[08:05] <Bodsda> :~)
[08:06] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[08:06] <Calvin> i wanted to upload some of my projects on Launchpad because i didn't like this line in the EULA of SourceForge: "By uploading code to SourceForge.net, you grant SourceForge a perpetual proprietary license." Can anyone tell me if Launchpad just hosts my material and doesn't actually own a copyright to it? I've read the TOS and even though it says nothing about it i want to make sure.
[08:06] <gnomefreak> your key looks like mine when you click on it
[08:06] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, good or bad?
[08:07] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: not sure
[08:07] <Bodsda> lol,.,.ok
[08:07] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: try removing the dir you were using
[08:07] <wgrant> Calvin: I don't believe Canonical does anything of the sort.
[08:07] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: we will go step by step
[08:07] <Bodsda> ive tried in ~/.coc and /home/bod
[08:07] <Bodsda> and ~/Desktop
[08:07] <gnomefreak> wgrant: care to fix the bouces flooding
[08:08] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: remove ~/.coc
[08:08] <wgrant> gnomefreak: Hm?
[08:08] <lifeless> Calvin: I believe we just host. However, if you are concerned can I encourage you to file a 'question' on the launchpad project within launchpad.
[08:08] <lifeless> Calvin: because: the TOS *should* be able to answer such questions and as its not clear enough the devs of that part of launchpad need to know that it wasn't sufficient, and at the same time they can answer your question authoritatively.
[08:09] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, removed
[08:09] <gnomefreak> wgrant: some guy on our bugs mailing list keeps getting about ~100 uncaught bounces a day. is theis LP or is this ML?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: mkdir ~/coc
[08:09] <wgrant> IMO the TOS is fine in that it doesn't say this - the only reason it would need to is if another hosting site does such ridiculous things... which it apparently does.
[08:09] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: with ou the .
[08:10] <Calvin> ok, thanks wgrant and lifeless. i'll go ahead and do that now
[08:10] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: dont make file hidden
[08:10] <Bodsda> done
[08:10] <gnomefreak> ok cd into it
[08:10] <Bodsda> yep
[08:10] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: run this command wget https://edge.launchpad.net/codeofconduct/1.0.1/+download
[08:10] <wgrant> gnomefreak: Hard to say without a copy of one of the emails. Also not that though I administer a number of mailing lists, I can't do anything about Launchpad ones...
[08:11] <wgrant> s/not/note/
[08:11] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, done
[08:11] <gnomefreak> wgrant: give me a sec and ill post it on pastebin
[08:11] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: run this command mv +download UbuntuCodeOfConduct-1.0.1.txt
[08:11] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, done
[08:12] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: this command as well gpg --clearsign UbuntuCodeOfConduct-1.0.1.txt
[08:12] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, done
[08:12] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: than check to see if the .asc is right by running gedit Ubuntu.....asc
[08:13] <gnomefreak> replace ... with the file name
[08:13] <Bodsda> k
[08:13] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, its empty
[08:13] <gnomefreak> hmm
[08:14] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: when did you make this key?
[08:14] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, about a month ago but only validated it today
[08:14] <wgrant> Bodsda: Is it empty, or does it not exist?
[08:14] <Bodsda> wgrant, it exists but the file has notext inside it
[08:15] <wgrant> Huh. How strange.
[08:15] <geser> Bodsda: did gpg complain when you called it?
[08:15] <wgrant> You did enter your passphrase when asked, right?
[08:16] <Bodsda> geser, no it didnt -- wgrant yes
[08:16] <gnomefreak> wgrant: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/1041073 this is the email that we/i'm getting im assuming its anyone subscribed to that list
[08:16] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: it didnt ask for password?
[08:16] <Bodsda> no, it didnt complain and it DID ask for a passphrase
[08:17] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[08:17]  * gnomefreak wondering if key is bad
[08:18] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: have you used this key for anything?
[08:18] <geser> Bodsda: and still the .asc file has zero length?
[08:18] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, no - geser, correct
[08:18] <Bodsda> actually ive used the key for decoding an email gnomefreak 
[08:18] <wgrant> gnomefreak: That will only go to the admins, I believe. No idea how that can be happening - Google's server seem to be having issues.
[08:19] <geser> really strange as it works for me (just tested)
[08:19] <gnomefreak> it looks like i set it to stop showign them but i would rather not have the clutter anywhere assuming the ML saves the posts
[08:19] <gnomefreak> geser: me too
[08:20] <gnomefreak> and i gave him exact commands i used
[08:20] <wgrant> gnomefreak: It's not on the list. It's just going to the admins.
[08:20] <wgrant> Unless your list config is broken.
[08:20] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: you havent gotten any errors or warnings?
[08:20] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, nope
[08:21] <gnomefreak> wgrant: ah thanks
[08:22] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, if i pm you my passphrase can you see if it works on your end?
[08:22] <gnomefreak> well i told asac that i set the bounces to not make them or something like that but it would be nice to have that set to yes again but not with all this crap i get enough emails without those bounces. in the box that i get them in i also get ~200 other emails
[08:22] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: i would rather not thats way too insecure
[08:23] <Bodsda> ok
[08:23] <geser> Bodsda: he would also need the private part of your key and then you should really generate a new one
[08:23]  * gnomefreak thinks its a key issue
[08:23] <Bodsda> can i make a new key?
[08:23] <gnomefreak> i dont remember how to remove a key but i would try making a new one
[08:23] <lifeless> I think its possibly a lp bug
[08:24] <gnomefreak> lifeless: no cant be
[08:24] <Bodsda> ok il try making a new key
[08:24] <gnomefreak> lifeless: its in his $HOME
[08:24] <gnomefreak> clearsign doesnt use LP
[08:24] <gnomefreak> and when i made it it worked as it should
[08:24] <gnomefreak> geser also tested it
[08:25] <Bodsda> what type of key should i use?
[08:25] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: you might want to follow a guide on it
[08:25] <gnomefreak> i will see if i have it in bookmarks
[08:26] <lifeless> oh, ths isn't the one lp mails out, this is the local action ?
[08:26] <Bodsda> im following the launchpad instructions which dont specify which to use
[08:26] <geser> Bodsda: you key looks ok (DSA/ElGamal)
[08:26] <Bodsda> (1) DSA and Elgamal (default)   (2) DSA (sign only)   (5) RSA (sign only)
[08:27] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[08:27] <Bodsda> thanks
[08:27] <gnomefreak> that should work if you have any questions let us know
[08:27]  * gnomefreak smoke
[08:28] <Bodsda> k cheers guys
[08:35] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, ok,just cancelled the old key and validated a new key successfully
[08:36] <gnomefreak> let me know if you are able to do it this time
[08:36] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, slight prob -- my comp still thinks im using the old key
[08:37] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: do you have both keys in gpg --list-keys
[08:38] <Bodsda> yes
[08:38] <Bodsda> it also gives me a file path so il go remove the old one
[08:39] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, i cant open the file though
[08:39] <nad> hello
[08:40] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: you can remove it with gpg --delete-keys but im not sure if you have to add the key #
[08:40] <nad> every one
[08:40] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, ok,.,.il try
[08:40] <nad> i have a quetion
[08:41] <gnomefreak> nad: ?
[08:42] <nad> why is it that ubuntu is for free and not 
[08:42]  * gnomefreak needs to find a pizza place open at 3:45am :(
[08:42] <gnomefreak> nad: what do you mean?
[08:42] <lifeless> not what?
[08:42] <nad> dvds and cds are not for free
[08:42] <gnomefreak> nad: and why in this channel? this isnt ubuntu support
[08:43] <Bodsda> i believe one of Mark Shuttleworths reasons for starting Ubuntu was to have it be free to give to third world countries who cant afford windows
[08:43] <lifeless> not a support question :P
[08:43] <gnomefreak> download the ISo and the cds are if you use ship it
[08:43] <lifeless> anyhow
[08:43] <lifeless> cd's and dvd's cost per-item created
[08:43] <lifeless> via shipit we provide cd's for free
[08:43] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, no joy .asc is stillempty even with the new key
[08:44] <gnomefreak> IIRC there is   dvd ISO you can download for free
[08:44] <lifeless> but other people that want to are able to make their own ubuntu cd's, and they often need to recoup their costs
[08:44] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: thats strange
[08:44] <Bodsda> very ;~)
[08:44] <lifeless> and they are allowed to - its part of the freedoms of ubuntu
[08:44] <geser> Bodsda: as your old key is already on the keyservers please revoke it before you remove it
[08:44] <Bodsda> geser, did that before i made the new key
[08:44] <geser> good
[08:45] <lifeless> and yes, the ISO for the dvd's is available for free
[08:45] <lifeless> (download that is)
[08:45] <nad> dvds and cds are sold at amazon and yet they can send a free cd
[08:45] <geser> Bodsda: can you try running gpg with --verbose and pastebin the output?
[08:46] <gnomefreak> and every release they lower the amount you can get
[08:46] <Bodsda> geser, gpg --verbose?
[08:46] <lifeless> nad: yes
[08:46] <nad> are they different
[08:46] <geser> Bodsda: gpg -v --clearsign UbuntuCoC...
[08:47] <gnomefreak> im thinking thats a wrog command but i typed too slow
[08:47] <Bodsda> oh, k,.,.1 sec
[08:47] <lifeless> I haven't seen the amazon cd's, but AFAIK they have the same content - are made from the same ISO file
[08:47] <lifeless> ditto the DVD's
[08:48] <gnomefreak> you can sell the cd and dvds for a price (cant remember the exact wording of it) but it does say you can sell them per the GPL
[08:48] <nad> what is the difference between the desktop edition and server edition
[08:48] <gnomefreak> nad: server doesnt have X
[08:48] <lifeless> desktop edition comes with gnome
[08:48] <Bodsda> gnomefreak, geser -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/17849/
[08:48] <lifeless> server comes with extra server utilities instead of gnome
[08:49] <lifeless> (all of which are available online anyhow)
[08:49] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: that looks normal
[08:49] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: and the .asc is still empty?
[08:49] <Bodsda> yep
[08:49] <geser> Bodsda: can you also pastebin the output of "ls -l" for that dir?
[08:50] <gnomefreak> could it be full and just not showing you for some reason
[08:50] <Bodsda> geser, only twofiles the .txt & .asc
[08:50] <Bodsda> -rw-r--r-- 1 bod bod 4606 2008-06-07 08:41 UbuntuCodeOfConduct-1.0.1.txt
[08:50] <Bodsda> -rw-r--r-- 1 bod bod 4842 2008-06-07 08:47 UbuntuCodeOfConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc
[08:50] <Bodsda> oops!!!!
[08:50] <Bodsda> omg -- im sorry
[08:51]  * Bodsda feels so stupid
[08:51]  * gnomefreak gonna ask why
[08:51] <Bodsda> UbuntuCodeOfConduct-1.0.1.asc
[08:51] <Bodsda> is indeed empty
[08:51] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: why/.
[08:51] <Bodsda> but UbuntuCodeOfConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc isnt
[08:51] <gnomefreak> .asc is full?
[08:52] <Bodsda> looks like the coc
[08:52] <gnomefreak> and .txt is empty?
[08:52] <Bodsda> nope
[08:52] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: should be coc with your signature on it
[08:52] <gnomefreak> at top and bottom
[08:52] <Bodsda> yep!
[08:52] <Bodsda> sorry guys i was tryin to open .asc not .txt.asc
[08:53] <geser> gnomefreak: he tried to view the contents of UbuntuCodeOfConduct-1.0.1.asc instead of UbuntuCodeOfConduct-1.0.1.txt.asc
[08:53] <Bodsda> but .asc didnt exist
[08:53] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: ah
[08:53]  * Bodsda facepalms
[08:54] <Bodsda> woot! im an ubuntero
[08:54] <Bodsda> that was irritatingly painstaking pebkac
[08:55] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: to prevent that use the tab key to complete the file name
[08:55] <Bodsda> i did,. it stopped at .txt and i thought that cant be right cause theres a .asc so i manually entered it
[08:55] <gnomefreak> with that one you would have to do Ubu<tab>.<tab>
[08:55] <Bodsda> forgotto double tab 
[08:56] <gnomefreak> Bodsda: its all part of learning
[08:56] <Bodsda> indeed ,.,. but i thought id mastered reading a while ago
[08:58] <gnomefreak> what is the email add. for the people (team) that handles removeing mailing lists? i sent them one a long time ago and its still up and running
[08:58] <Bodsda> also, i filed a bug report a while ago about wifi lagging my system but this seems to be fixed by the recent updates -- if everything is ok in a few days il mark post as redundent or sometihng
[08:59] <gnomefreak> invalid :)
[08:59] <Bodsda> yeah that one ;~)
[12:25] <Pretto> hi guys
[12:26] <Pretto> now i noticed a translation in my lauchpad page that i that was not my translation
[12:27] <Pretto> two packages that i did not translate
[12:56] <Peng> Somebody cracked your account and translated stuff? How awful!
[12:56] <Peng> Maybe he snuck bad words into the translation.
[12:58] <Pretto> Peng, are you kiding huh?
[12:58] <Peng> Yes.
[12:58] <Peng> I'm useless.
[12:59] <Peng> But I wasn't interrupting anything, so..
[13:08] <kiko-afk> Pretto, can you ask about this on answers.l.n (see /topic)? I'll get somebody to look at it 
[13:08] <Pretto> kiko-afk, ok 
[13:10] <kiko-afk> gotta run
[19:15] <brandon_rhodes> Is there a launchpad "powered by" logo that I can use?  I'm changing my project's web site to, up at the top, point people over to launchpad for bugs/code/answers/etc...
[19:15] <brandon_rhodes> The top of the page will tell people that my own site is where to find docs; PyPI is where to download; and Lauchpad is where everything else lives.
[21:24] <emgent> heya
[22:35] <ghtdak_> there must be a simple "step by step" process to create a bzr repo and upload to launchpad... I imagine this is a 5 times a day question... but I find nothing...
[22:36] <beuno> ghtdak_, https://help.launchpad.net/BzrHowto
[22:37] <ghtdak_> ah, there it is... the launchpad instructions are incorrect when instructing how to upload... thx
[22:38] <beuno> ghtdak_, the ones I just sent you, or somewhere else?
[22:39] <ghtdak_> on the launchpad site... it says: bzr push lp:~glenn-tarbox/qt4reactor/trunk
[22:39] <ghtdak_> and complains with a microsoft style pointless error... who comes up with this stuff :-)
[22:46] <ghtdak_> all is well... thx again
[22:47] <beuno> ghtdak_, ah, well, lp: URLs are preferred
[22:48] <beuno> you probably need to run:  bzr launchpad-login your_username
[22:51] <ghtdak_> ah... see I'm a git guy... with a brief stopover into hg... so its all getting a bit much... was hoping just to nail this one up without much thinking...  fortunately, I've purged SVN :-)
[22:54] <beuno> ghtdak_, it's a one time thing, so you should be fine from now on  :)
[22:54] <beuno> the newer versions of bzr do a better job at explaining what you're missing
[23:06] <hubuntu> when registering a branch what is the difference between mirrored and remote?
[23:11] <hubuntu> anyone please?
[23:37] <thumper> hubuntu: come back