[00:00] <MachinTrucChose> that didn't do it...must be something else causing a conflict.
[00:01] <arcanjoebc> do you used the kurumin linux ng????
[00:01] <engineer> l3x intel
[00:01] <engineer> MachinTrucChose tried under gnome?
[00:02] <l3x> engineer: you suggest that i chage it to intel driver, right?
[00:03] <engineer> yes
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> hi all
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> any yakuake users here
[00:03] <l3x> engineer: than you very much.
[00:03] <engineer> l3x be sure you know how to revert if it fails
[00:03] <engineer> ActionParsnip i am
[00:03] <Jucato> ActionParsnip: yep
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> is it possible to add custom schemas for colour?
[00:03] <l3x> engineer: just change it back to i810?
[00:03] <MachinTrucChose> engineer: nope, don't have Gnome installed.
[00:04] <engineer> l3x yeah, i was just checking if you're confortable with command line
[00:04] <l3x> engineer: maybe if that fails, i can reconfigure xorg.conf
[00:04] <engineer> ActionParsnip right click, settings, schema
[00:04] <arcanjoebc> some peaple speak portuguese????
[00:04] <arcanjoebc> some peaple speak portuguese????
[00:04] <Jucato> !pt | arcanjoebc
[00:04] <engineer> arcanjoebc yeah, i do
[00:05] <Jucato> hmm...
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> engineer: I know that bit, but can I add my own custom ones?
[00:05] <l3x> !kubuntu-pt
[00:05] <l3x> !kubuntu-po
[00:05] <l3x> !kubuntu-rs
[00:05] <l3x> !ubuntu-rs
[00:05] <Jucato> !pt
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> engineer: maybe like one with a pink background with orange text
[00:05] <Jucato> arcanjoebc: ^^^^^
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> engineer: as an example
[00:06] <engineer> ActionParsnip tried creating a custom one with konsole and then checking if it happears on yakuake?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> engineer: so set it on konsole then tell yakuake to use those settings?
[00:07] <engineer> something like that
[00:08] <tsb> I just created a new account and when I log into it, kwin doesn't start. If I start the run dialoge I can't enter anything so I can't start it manually either. However if I first log into my current user, and then log in to the new user in a new session, kwin starts. Any idea what's going on here?
[00:08] <engineer> or change and existing one into something of your lijking
[00:09] <engineer> tsb does the home of the user has the correct permissions set?
[00:09] <tsb> engineer: yes
[00:09] <tsb> engineer: everything else seems to be working
[00:10] <l3x> hey, anyone knows how to remove "Documents Folder" from System Menu (menu of important system places) in kubuntu? it annoyes me...
[00:12] <tsb> engineer: another thing is that once I am using 2 kde's, one of them will crash & burn within a little while, returning me to kdm
[00:12] <tsb> (I assumed this was just an unrelated kde/kubuntu-bug though)
[00:12] <l3x> my kde just died...
[00:13] <engineer> l3x open remote places and hit back
[00:14] <l3x> don eit
[00:14] <l3x> what now?
[00:14] <engineer> not back, click system
[00:14] <engineer> and delete the shortcut
[00:15] <l3x> i am in system
[00:15] <l3x> engineer: if i try to delete it, it deletes my Documents folder in /home/user/
[00:15] <engineer> delete the shortcut then
[00:15] <engineer> plain and simple
[00:16] <engineer> move the contents elsewhere
[00:16] <l3x> ok. i'll give it a go.
[00:17] <l3x> engineer: i deleted it, and it is still there! it now sais "file /home/user/documents does not seem to exist anymore
[00:18] <l3x> engineer: i tried it before with shift+delete and had to restore my files ( i lost them) from /Documents in my home dir
[00:19] <engineer> l3x i'm out of ideas yugoslavian
[00:19] <l3x> it is serbian now, engineer, yugoslavia does not exist anymore :)
[00:20] <engineer> right...
[00:20] <engineer> so odd, countries come and go
[00:20] <l3x> engineer: it happened many years ago. nothing chaged though...
[00:20] <jrl123> Does anyone know the setting to make ktorrent automatically start a torrent rather than show the window to select which files to download, label, etc?
[00:22] <engineer> l3x if nothing changed, why is the country gone?
[00:23] <l3x> engineer: who knows. politics, i do not understand it, and i do not like it. btw. where are you from?
[00:23] <l3x> anyone else know how to remove documents folder from system:/??
[00:24] <l3x> engineer: btw, i think that my root account does not have that hideous documents folder...
[00:31] <minhaaj> my vb is not working
[00:32] <minhaaj> The VirtualBox kernel driver is not accessible to the current user. Make sure that the user has write permissions for /dev/vboxdrv by adding them to the vboxusers groups. You will need to logout for the change to take effect..
[00:32] <engineer> tried vmware?
[00:32] <will00> is there a way to set up irkick so that it can control gnome applications (such as totem, and tvtime) ?
[00:32] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: thats simple to do
[00:33] <minhaaj> how ?
[00:33] <minhaaj> oh ok
[00:33] <minhaaj> hangon let me see
[00:35] <jo4> i'm trying to get my gtk apps to use qt, but it won't work. i got the gtk-qt-engine package from the repos, but i'm currently running gdm, but that shouldn't affect it i thought.. any thoughts?
[00:35] <minhaaj> not working nosrednaekim
[00:35] <minhaaj> still says you need to log off
[00:36] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj: edit /etc/groups and add your username after "vboxusers
[00:37] <minhaaj> umm thats konsole command or i should go to dolphin ?
[00:38] <nosrednaekim> edit the file with kdesudo kate /etc/groups
[00:38] <minhaaj> there is no 'groups' in my etc
[00:38] <nosrednaekim> oh... "group".. no s... sorry
[00:39] <minhaaj> ok its open
[00:39] <minhaaj> where do i add my name
[00:39] <minhaaj> i already see my name in alot of places
[00:39] <sensae> Hello
[00:40] <engineer> hey californian
[00:41] <nosrednaekim> minhaaj:  looks for "vboxusers"
[00:41] <nosrednaekim> *look
[00:41] <jrl123> Does anyone know how to disable the touchpad tap/click?
[00:42] <minhaaj> ok its 123 there
[00:42] <minhaaj> i should write my name there ?
[00:42] <nosrednaekim> paste the current line here
[00:43] <helpy> it says i dont have write access
[00:43] <nosrednaekim> did you open it with kdesudo kate?
[00:43] <helpy> vboxusers:x:123:
[00:43] <helpy> nope
[00:43] <nosrednaekim> do that
[00:43] <helpy> from etc/group
[00:43] <engineer> jrl123
[00:43] <engineer> I have add the following line to the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file "InputDevice" section (which has the Identifier "Synaptics" line):
[00:43] <engineer> Option "MaxTapTime" "0"
[00:43] <helpy> how do i do that ?
[00:43] <nosrednaekim> helpy: run, from a command line "kdesudo kate /etc/group"
[00:44] <helpy> ok hang on
[00:44] <helpy> ok done
[00:44] <helpy> now just change 123 with my name ?
[00:44] <helpy> or the account name ?
[00:45] <nosrednaekim> no..... put your name after the last colon
[00:45] <helpy> vboxusers:x:123:
[00:45] <helpy> vboxusers:x:123:minhaaj  like this ?
[00:47] <helpy> nope still not accessible
[00:48] <nosrednaekim> just a sec
[00:49] <cr0n0s> wenas
[00:49] <helpy> ok
[00:50] <kernco>  I can't get KDE 4 to run on my laptop.  I have tried with 4.0 and 4.1 beta.  kdm-kde4 runs fine, and the KDE 4 splash screen appears, but then I kdm restarts.  I never get to the desktop.
[00:50] <helpy> kernco:  do you have compiz ?
[00:50] <kernco> helpy: no
[00:50] <helpy> it should work fine then.
[00:51] <helpy> did you select kde4 from the login screen ?
[00:51] <nosrednaekim> helpy: and you logged off?
[00:51] <helpy> yep
[00:51] <nosrednaekim> kernco: delete your .kde4
[00:51] <helpy> nosrednaekim:  you mean after i saved the group file?
[00:51] <helpy> nope
[00:52] <x-X-x> can someone help me i recently installed firestarter and i keep getting hits from diff ips
[00:52] <x-X-x> literally every 30-60 sec
[00:52] <nosrednaekim> kernco: and if that doesn't work, after trying to start kde4, go to ctrl+alt+f2 log in, copy .xsession-errors to another file, go back to CTrl+alt+f7 log into kde3, and pastebin the file
[00:53] <nosrednaekim> helpy: log out and back in and you should be cool
[00:53] <helpy> ok, King's gonna be back in a bit :)
[00:58] <minhaaj> nosrednaekim:  my friend, let the force be with you !!!
[00:58] <nosrednaekim> :)
[00:58]  * helpy bows. thanks master yoda
[00:59] <kernco> That didn't work.  .xsession-errors at http://pastebin.com/m521c61fd
[00:59] <nosrednaekim> thanks
[01:00] <helpy> can you use dial up from windows in virtual box ?
[01:00] <nosrednaekim> helpy: most likely not
[01:00] <helpy> why is that ?
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> not if you don't have it onnected within linux
[01:01] <helpy> you can't connect dial up in linux
[01:01] <helpy> modems just dont work
[01:01] <nosrednaekim> this is sadly true
[01:02] <helpy> why dont they do something about it ?
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> kernco: looks like something with Klauncher
[01:02] <nosrednaekim> helpy: they can't.... its the people who make the win-modem's fault
[01:02] <helpy> ok
[01:02] <helpy> nosrednaekim:  can you tell me about permissions in linux
[01:02] <helpy> i get to type alot of passwords to get root access when opening up apps
[01:03] <helpy> whys that ?
[01:03] <nosrednaekim> helpy: if the application modifies any files outisde of your /home... it needs the root password
[01:04] <helpy> how do i change it to whole hard drive ?
[01:04] <nosrednaekim> what?
[01:04] <helpy> access to every partition on my hard disk wthout root password prompt
[01:05] <Dragnslcr> You don't
[01:06] <nosrednaekim> helpy: you don't want that
[01:06] <Dragnslcr> That's why Linux has decent security
[01:06] <Dragnslcr> You don't normally have access to system files
[01:16] <prymal> I am very new to linux, could someone please answer 1 basic question for me...
[01:16] <prymal> is it difficult to run windows applications under linux?
[01:17] <Pici> prymal: You can run some windows applications using Wine.
[01:17] <bazhang> !appdb | prymal check here
[01:17] <prymal> many thanks
[01:17] <prymal> I will investigate now
[01:21] <bazhang> prymal, you may also consider vm's or dualbooting (for games the second)
[01:21] <jgranc> quit
[01:24] <prymal> I am dual booting :)
[01:24] <prymal> xp and kubuntu
[01:24] <jonasb> hi all, I have some problems with cmus (ncurses based music player). recently (I think after the Heron update) it doesn't 'render' properly. I only see one vertical line and some characters. any ideas?
[01:24] <prymal> bazhang: the reason for me installing linux is to learn, so I'm just getting stuck into it.  Thanks for the help!
[01:26] <bazhang> prymal, you can also try out a bunch of open source stuff for windows at www.opensourcewindows.org
[01:31] <florian> Hello!
[01:32] <florian> I accidential erased my partition table ... also I have complete backup of all data I would prefer to recofer data if possible ...
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> florian: do you remember any of the sizes of your partitions?
[01:35] <Firefishe> Running 7.04.  How do you enable POSIX shared memory?
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> Firefishe: don't think you can
[01:35] <Firefishe> nosrednaekim:  got a graphics card proprietary driver that's going to need it running?
[01:35] <Firefishe> nix the ?
[01:35] <Firefishe> typo
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> Fireuse 8.04
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> Firefishe:  use 8.04
[01:36] <florian> nosrednaekim: Yes but I didn't manage to guess the right data ...
[01:36] <Firefishe> nosrednaekim:  any particular reason?  this laptop is 4 years old
[01:36] <florian> /dev/sda4           11701       19457    62308102+   5  Erweiterte
[01:36] <florian> /dev/sda5           19118       19457     2731050   82  Linux Swap / Solaris
[01:36] <nosrednaekim> Firefishe: to get POSIX shared memory
[01:37] <florian> If I try to create partitions like that with fdisk they don't match exactly ...
[01:37] <florian> They are allwas a litle bit larger or smaler ....
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> you should still be able to get some of the data off
[01:44] <prymal> thanks for the help guys, steam is now running :)
[01:45] <florian> nosrednaekim: Thanks for your help ... It seems I now got values that match .... verry well
[01:46] <florian> But now I need to configure /etc/fstab ... partiton 5 (/home) is now on /dev/sda6 ....
[01:46] <florian> But fstab uses UUID .....
[01:46] <nosrednaekim> you can tell it yo not use UUID
[01:47] <florian> What is the UUID of my partition /dev/sda6 ?
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> uhhhg... dunno
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> there is a command to check but I forget it
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> !UUID
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> whoooo :)
[01:48] <florian> nosrednaekim: Thank You!!
[01:49] <florian> So I am going down for reboot, hoping to be back again soon ...
[01:49] <pedalegal> Hi
[01:57] <prymal> I'm haivng issues with wine running steam... anyone got experience with it?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> prymal: people over in #winehq might have more
[02:10] <Firefishe> nosrednaekim:   Hi, I was just in here a second ago.  Network trubbles ;).  I was curious.  Is there any advantage to upgrading via disk vs. the 'net?   I have the 8.04 disk handy.
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> Firefishe: the alternate installer?
[02:11] <Firefishe> nosrednaekim:  Is there any way to safely upgrade using the 8.04 kubuntu disk from canonical?
[02:11] <Firefishe> nosrednaekim: which one?
[02:11] <nosrednaekim> Firefishe: I don;t think you could without the alternate installer
[02:11] <Firefishe> nosrednaekim: what's the alternate installer's name?
[02:11] <Firefishe> adept?
[02:12] <nosrednaekim> no.... its the alternate CD
[02:12] <Firefishe> I wish canonical would use dvd's and not cd's.
[02:14] <Odd-rationale> Firefishe: i like the cd size. plu cd are cheaper for me.. :)
[02:15] <Odd-rationale> plus
[02:17] <Firefishe> Odd-rationale:  I see.  Well, cheapbytes sells cd sets a bit more expensive than dvd's.  Dvd's hold more information, and if you get, say, a 3 dvd set, you don't have to be connected to the 'net to get all the other goodies we gnu/linux folk end up needing--like all those obscure build libraries
[02:28] <X2683> Is this where i get help with Wubi?
[02:28] <Odd-rationale> X2683: yes wubi is supported here
[02:29] <X2683> I'm having a problem trying to install Kubuntu under Wubi.
[02:29] <X2683> Both of them are v 8.04
[02:30] <tomas1986> hey can any one tell me how to install epona
[02:30] <gandhi> anyone that can tell me why stuf like firefox, thunderbird etc is greyed out in Adept? just did install from live CD
[02:31] <nosrednaekim> gandhi:try pressing the "reload button"
[02:31] <tomas1986> any one
[02:31] <gandhi> huh?
[02:32] <X2683> The problem that i'm having is that when I use Wubi, after I fill in the information like the password and username, when it goes to download, it tries connecting to the server twice and then brings up an error screen that says nothing and closes itself.
[02:32] <X2683> Can anyone help me with this?
[02:34] <Odd-rationale> X2683: try downloading the normall kubuntu intsall cd, and put it in the same directlry as the exe
[02:34] <Odd-rationale> or in the Wubi directory if it exists, i don;t quite remember how it works...
[02:34] <MachinTrucChose> Hi. Someone in this channel called "engineer" recommended that I reinstall the "kwin" package to fix a keyboard shortcut issue I've been having, and now the login screen is completely different. Additionally, my windows no longer have a title bar (with the minimize, maximize, and close buttons). What can I do to fix this?
[02:35] <florian> I still have trouble with my partitiontable ... I restored my partitiontable but now parted couldn't read my partition table
[02:35] <X2683> ok, does it work the same for Ubuntu?
[02:35] <florian> It allway says that I have partitions out of the disk ..
[02:36] <florian> (the message is german: Fehler: Partitionen ausserhalb der Platte sind nicht möglich!)
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> X2683: yes works the same as ubuntu. but you're on the kubuntu channel... ;
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> :)
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> X2683: ok i looked it up. put the ubuntu.iso in the same folder as the wubi.exe
[02:36] <Odd-rationale> http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
[02:37] <helpy> thunderbird can't find my other partitions for adding an attachment file.
[02:37] <helpy> any idea ?
[02:37] <X2683> i tried the ubuntu channel, nothing comes up
[02:37] <MachinTrucChose> helpy: where are your partitions mounted?
[02:37] <X2683> ok, i have them in the same folder, but it still is trying to download off the internet.
[02:37] <helpy> MachinTrucChose:  sorry ?
[02:37] <MachinTrucChose> helpy: how do you usually access your other partitions?
[02:37] <helpy> i could do that before
[02:38] <helpy> yes i can get it through dolphin
[02:38] <helpy> but it just isn't there through TB
[02:38] <MachinTrucChose> ok, what is the exact location Dolphin accesses? "\media\disk1" etc?
[02:38] <helpy> yep
[02:38] <helpy> in storage devices
[02:38] <helpy> media disk 2
[02:39] <Odd-rationale> X2683: did you downlad the desktop cd?
[02:39] <MachinTrucChose> so Thunderbird doesn't even display \media\disk2?
[02:39] <florian> may be that is a problem with my extended partition (sda4)?
[02:39] <florian> 255 Köpfe, 63 Sektoren/Spuren, 19457 Zylinder
[02:39] <helpy> nope
[02:40] <Odd-rationale> X2683: to be honest, the best place to ask is on the ubuntuforums's wubi subforum: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234
[02:40] <florian> "/dev/sda4            5258       19458   114069532+   f  W95 Erw. (LBA)"
[02:40] <Odd-rationale> i never personally tried wubi myself. i just know from what i read... ;)
[02:40] <florian> ^^^ 19458
[02:42] <MachinTrucChose> that's messed up. I use the Windows version only (through Wine), and Thunderbird does show /media/diskx
[02:42] <ParaGuy> hello
[02:43] <helpy> its ok. i copy pasted the files in home and thunderbird sent it
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> hey ParaGuy
[02:43] <helpy> but i hate linux permissions
[02:43] <helpy> why can't you read and write anything on any partition without password
[02:44] <Odd-rationale> helpy: security
[02:44] <ParaGuy> is anyone familure with getting wifi to work in kubuntu 8.04?
[02:44] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: what card?
[02:44] <helpy> what am i? IBM ?
[02:44] <ParaGuy> AR5007EG
[02:44] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: did you google first? ;)
[02:44] <ParaGuy> yes, and I have tried everything but I am pretty new at this
[02:45] <helpy> it autodetected my wifi ParaGuy
[02:45] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: who makes it?
[02:45] <Odd-rationale> the card?
[02:45] <ParaGuy> Aerthos
[02:45] <helpy> turn it on and get going
[02:45] <ParaGuy> the light on the laptop is on
[02:45] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: can you pastebin the output of iwconfig?
[02:46] <ParaGuy> yes
[02:46] <Odd-rationale> !paste
[02:46] <SebNaitsabes> probably the same in Kubuntu, but in Ubuntu sound works in BMP and Wine, but it won't in,  VLC and other palyers and Rythombox it won't even play an MP3 anymore.
[02:46] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: are you wired in right now?
[02:46] <X2683> How do I join the Ubuntu channel?
[02:46] <ParaGuy> it says lo no wireless extensions
[02:46] <Odd-rationale> X2683: /join #ubuntu
[02:46] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: that's it?
[02:46] <ParaGuy> and eth0 no wireless extensions
[02:46] <Odd-rationale> those to only?
[02:46] <Odd-rationale> 2
[02:46] <X2683> i did that but the applet does nothing.
[02:46] <ParaGuy> yes
[02:47] <ParaGuy> how do I turn it on/
[02:47] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: are you wired in right now?
[02:47] <ParaGuy> yes.. I am talking to you on my desktop but I have my laptop hardwired setting beside me
[02:47] <Odd-rationale> cool. hold on a moment...
[02:48] <ParaGuy> and I have all day, and a tasty cup of coffee sitting here
[02:48] <X2683> the applet is acting like channel #ubuntu doesn't exist
[02:49] <ParaGuy> I'm in Korea by the way.. good morning :)
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> ParaGuy: try using ndiswrapper on it
[02:51]  * X2683 doesn't know why the applet wont let him go into the #ubuntu channel.
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> !ndiswrapper
[02:51] <ParaGuy> I don't know how to do that
[02:51] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: ok. so first thing to check is try going to kmenu --> system --> restricted drivers. and see if you need any drivers
[02:51] <ParaGuy> ok.. hold on
[02:51] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: my quick research seems to suggest madwifi. what do you think?
[02:52] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: not... madwifi does not have support for that chipset, or the 5006 or 5005
[02:52] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: if you do plan to use ndiswrapper, do you have the windows cd with drivers?
[02:52] <ParaGuy> I can't find any program under system called restricted drivers
[02:53] <ParaGuy> I do have the windows driver for 32 bit yes but I am running 64bit kubuntu
[02:53] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: hardware dirvers? ( forget the exact name..)
[02:53] <ParaGuy> I have a program called hardware viewing
[02:54] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: nevermind. just open konsole and do "kdesudo jockey-kde"
[02:54] <ParaGuy> ah.. ok
[02:54] <nosrednaekim> ParaGuy: I can get you the 64 bit drivers if you need them
[02:54] <ParaGuy> I am showing ATI accelerated graphics driver
[02:55] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: hmm. do 32bit drivers work with ndis on 64 machines? I have only used 32 bit.
[02:55] <ParaGuy> atheros hardware access layer (hal)
[02:55] <ParaGuy> support for atheros 802.11 wireless lan drivers
[02:55] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: nah.. they crash the machine :P
[02:55] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: check that one...
[02:55] <ParaGuy> it is checked and it says in use
[02:55] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: i never had a machine that could run 64bit... ;)
[02:55] <ParaGuy> all of those are checked and says in use
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> ParaGuy: Odd-rationale yeah,..... thats normal
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> but ti still won't work without ndiswrapper
[02:56] <ParaGuy> should I disable them?
[02:56] <Odd-rationale> ok. ndiswrapper it is!
[02:56] <Odd-rationale> ParaGuy: no
[02:56] <nosrednaekim> yes... disable it
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> in order to use ndiswrapper... you'll need to
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> ParaGuy: I need your email so I can send you the driver... you can PM it to me
[02:57] <Odd-rationale> really? that's seems strange...
[02:57] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: otherwise ath_pci will block access to the card
[02:58] <Odd-rationale> well, i need to go... you came just in time, nosrednaekim. saved the day... :)
[02:59] <ParaGuy> thank you for your help Odd
[03:00] <Odd-rationale> just don't forget to add ndiswrapper to your /etc/modules file when you're done (echo "ndiswrapper" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules)
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: ndiswrapper -m works better :P
[03:01] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: didn't work for me...
[03:01] <Odd-rationale> actually, i would prefer just to open it with vi instead.... ;)
[03:01] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: only works in conjunction with disabling the athoers driver
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> ParaGuy: email sent
[03:02] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: i was settings up an airlink with ndis.
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> ParaGuy: grab "ndiswrapper-common"
[03:02] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: aren't those atheros?
[03:03] <ParaGuy> how do I do that?
[03:03] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: don't think so...
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> ParaGuy: "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common"
[03:04] <ParaGuy> it says it's fetching it
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> ok
[03:04] <ParaGuy> it's done
[03:04] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: to disable the atheros, you would blacklist ath_pci in which file?
[03:04] <nosrednaekim> Odd-rationale: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:05] <Odd-rationale> nosrednaekim: ok. that's it. thanks!
[03:05] <Odd-rationale> bye!
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> or you can do it in /etc/defualts/linux-common something or other
[03:05] <ParaGuy> Thanks again Odd-rationale
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> ParaGuy: did you egt my email?
[03:05] <ParaGuy> yes I did nos
[03:05] <nosrednaekim> ParaGuy: K, save that somewhere in your home DIR
[03:05] <ParaGuy> is that for the 64 bit?
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> OH! I totally forgot about that... duh :P
[03:06] <nosrednaekim> just a sec lol
[03:07] <nosrednaekim> there you go...
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> ParaGuy: ok....where did you save it to? your desktop?
[03:08] <ParaGuy> yes
[03:08] <ParaGuy> I have it on my desktop
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> the new one?
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> (I just sent another email)
[03:08] <ParaGuy> yes
[03:08] <ParaGuy> the one you just sent
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> ok
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> now run, on the command line "kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist" and add the line "blacklist ath_pci" on the bottom
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> (in the window which will get opened by that command)
[03:11] <ParaGuy> it asked me for my password and then said command not found
[03:12] <nosrednaekim> try replaceing kate with kwrite
[03:12] <ParaGuy> same error message
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> are you running ubuntu or kubuntu?
[03:13] <ParaGuy> Im running kubuntu hardy 8.04
[03:13] <ParaGuy> with kde 4
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> mmmk, are you taking the quotes out of those commands?
[03:14] <ParaGuy> yes
[03:14] <nosrednaekim> so what EXACTLY are you typing in?
[03:14] <ParaGuy> i typed kdesudo kate/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:14] <ParaGuy> then it ask for password
[03:14] <ParaGuy> I give it password and it says command not found
[03:14] <ParaGuy> I also tried kwrite in place of kate
[03:15] <nosrednaekim> put a space between kate and the /
[03:15] <ParaGuy> ok.. hold on
[03:15] <ParaGuy> still same error message
[03:16] <nosrednaekim> try with kwrite and a space :P
[03:16] <ParaGuy> k
[03:16] <ParaGuy> same message
[03:17] <ParaGuy> I am maybe in the wrong directory?
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> ok.. screw guis :P do "sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[03:17] <nosrednaekim> and add it that way :P
[03:19] <ParaGuy> ok
[03:19] <ParaGuy> that did something
[03:19] <nosrednaekim> ok, go to the bottom and type in "blacklist ath_pci"
[03:20] <pastor> hola a todos!
[03:20] <PhoenixGI> btw kdesu with kde 4 requires the path for the commands
[03:21] <pastor> que es esto?
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> then ctrl+o and ctrl+x
[03:21] <nosrednaekim> PhoenixGI: ahhhhh!
[03:21] <ParaGuy> ok.. I typed in blacklist ath_pci but it is not doing anything
[03:21] <pastor> aqui no se habla espanol?
[03:22] <Jucato> !es
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> you don't see it appear?
[03:22] <Jucato> pastor:  ^^^^
[03:22] <pastor> #ubuntu-es
[03:22] <ParaGuy> let me log on with my linux box to chat so I can copy and paste for you
[03:22] <ParaGuy> brb
[03:22] <nosrednaekim> k
[03:23] <pastor> Gracias! jeje
[03:27] <burl> I am back nos, this is paraguy
[03:32] <ozielhs> helppppppppppp
[03:33]  * mr--t THINKS ATTACK OF THE STUCK KEYS.....
[03:34] <LinuxRules_883> Anyone in here know how to use Wubi well?
[03:37] <SebNaitsabes> Wubi
[03:37] <SebNaitsabes> what do you want to know with it_
[03:37] <SebNaitsabes> regarding it
[03:38] <sensae> How do I control which folder's contents go on my desktop?
[03:38] <LinuxRules_883> Well here the thing with wubi
[03:39] <LinuxRules_883> after i put my information in it, it starts to connect to the server, it tries twice and returns with a error that states nothing.
[03:39] <LinuxRules_883> i looked at my firewall and made sure it wasn't blocking the connection.
[03:40] <LinuxRules_883> shut off virus scan and it still wont connect.
[03:41] <LinuxRules_883> put the iso in the same folder as Wubi and it still tries to download it.
[03:41] <SebNaitsabes> wubi is for newbies
[03:41] <SebNaitsabes> also think about it
[03:41] <SebNaitsabes> what if Windows screws up
[03:41] <SebNaitsabes> big time
[03:41] <SebNaitsabes> then your  Wubi install of Ubuntu does as well?
[03:41] <SebNaitsabes> hard disk partitions is the way to go :)
[03:42] <SebNaitsabes> and yes
[03:42] <SebNaitsabes> you don't run Wubi
[03:42] <SebNaitsabes> from inside WIndows itself
[03:42] <SebNaitsabes> it just takes a part of the Windows partition
[03:42] <SebNaitsabes> and edits the WIndows boot loader
[03:42] <LinuxRules_883> the examples show wubi running in windows
[03:42] <SebNaitsabes> so you can boot Wubi/Ubuntu as well as Windows
[03:42] <SebNaitsabes> the installer is in WIndows sure
[03:43] <SebNaitsabes> ,but Wubi/Ubuntu itself is not
[03:43] <SebNaitsabes> the install of Ubuntu is not in Windows
[03:43] <LinuxRules_883> i just dont have a cd at the moment, i guess i could do it the other way.
[03:43] <LinuxRules_883> and just wait until tomorrow to install.
[03:43] <SebNaitsabes> Wubi is a set up program which  will put  Ubuntu inside a part of your WIndows partition and edit the Windows bootloader so you can boot Ubuntu
[03:44] <SebNaitsabes> well you don't need a CD
[03:44] <SebNaitsabes> for an ISO
[03:44] <LinuxRules_883> how do I boot from an iso without a cd?
[03:44] <SebNaitsabes> since there is a program you can use instead of burning the contents of the ISO to CD
[03:44] <PhoenixGI> nosrednaekim.  If your interested the kdesu or kdesudo issues in KDE4 is bug#191264
[03:44] <SebNaitsabes> however I kept on saying that it's  best to just partition your hard disk really instead of using Wubi
[03:44] <PhoenixGI> Don't know how to do the fancy ! command to get it to display it
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> PhoenixGI: yeah.. I remember it now :P
[03:45] <SebNaitsabes> ,but sure you don't have an Ubuntu CD either at the moment that you have burnt or got from them
[03:45] <nosrednaekim> bug 191264
[03:45] <minhaaj> why does open office suck that much ?
[03:45] <minhaaj> i lose all my formatting
[03:45] <LinuxRules_883> no, my cd is 2,000 miles away
[03:45] <helpy> thats the only program that reminds me of windows
[03:45] <SebNaitsabes> have you ever used Ubuntu before?
[03:45] <LinuxRules_883> yes
[03:45] <SebNaitsabes> wubi is a nice one to try it sure
[03:45] <SebNaitsabes> ,but
[03:45] <PhoenixGI> nosrednaekim ok that was to easy to show... lol
[03:45] <SebNaitsabes> it's best to have it in partitions
[03:46] <LinuxRules_883> I used to just do it the partitioning way
[03:46] <SebNaitsabes> real partitions on your hard disk
[03:46] <helpy> hey PhoenixGI, did you install kgolf ?
[03:46] <helpy> ;)
[03:46] <LinuxRules_883> true, no likelihood for it to mess sup
[03:46] <nosrednaekim> PhoenixGI: just make sure you have a space between bug and the # sign and that should work too
[03:46] <SebNaitsabes> after all what if Windows screws up big time,  then Wubi will as well more than likely
[03:46] <SebNaitsabes> however the program for ISO's that your after is deamontools
[03:46] <PhoenixGI> helpy yeah got it installed, my 10year old is happy now
[03:46] <SebNaitsabes> deamontools
[03:46] <helpy> heeh good.
[03:46] <helpy> Dads have to succumb
[03:46] <PhoenixGI> nosrednaekim got it
[03:47] <LinuxRules_883> ok, i'll look for it.
[03:47] <helpy> wait, let me check out kgofl too
[03:47] <helpy> its in adept ? can't find it
[03:47] <PhoenixGI> helpy didn't say he couldn't use this machine, just didn't want the schools to teach it untill I've learned :) the kde4 version has a bug or 2
[03:47] <helpy> hey flaccid
[03:48] <helpy> a bug or 2 ?
[03:48] <SebNaitsabes> schools teaching LIux
[03:48] <SebNaitsabes> Linux
[03:48] <SebNaitsabes> that's cool
[03:48] <SebNaitsabes> ,but dosant' happen much
[03:48] <helpy> say you mean 1 or 2k ?
[03:48] <nosrednaekim> !enter
[03:48] <helpy> i'll teach linux in school
[03:48] <helpy> :)
[03:49] <PhoenixGI> helpy I found it though apt-cache search.... I was told that's how all the COOL linux users found thier software, or something like that
[03:49] <helpy> heh
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> helpy: thats cause its "kgolf"
[03:49] <helpy> thats what i searched for nosrednaekim
[03:49] <nosrednaekim> oh :P
[03:49] <PhoenixGI> it's kolf
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> suh
[03:50] <helpy> :)
[03:50] <PhoenixGI> or kolf-kde4
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> !info kolf
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> duh >.<
[03:50] <helpy> there you go. installing
[03:50] <PhoenixGI> Ha! the newbie learned something :) Goooo Me
[03:50] <helpy> if i like the game, your ten year old gets a free kiss from me
[03:50] <helpy> :)
[03:50] <nosrednaekim> the old hand was skooled.... goo teacher :P
[03:51] <helpy> i hate openoffice
[03:51] <helpy> no formatting at all
[03:51] <helpy> :s
[03:52] <PhoenixGI> I haven't opened, open office yet
[03:52] <flaccid_> wasssup helpy
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> !ndiswrapper | burl
[03:52] <helpy> nothing much flaccid_
[03:52] <helpy> what do you use PhoenixGI ?
[03:52] <flaccid_> coolio
[03:53] <flaccid_> openoffice has lots of formatting :)
[03:53] <PhoenixGI> At the moment..... nothing, haven't done any "work" like that at home
[03:53] <helpy> ok i just OB'ed the ball in golf
[03:53] <helpy> nope flaccid_
[03:53] <helpy> still pretty lousy
[03:53] <flaccid_> helpy, specificly?
[03:53] <helpy> table formatting, animations
[03:53] <helpy> you name it, its missing
[03:54] <PhoenixGI> helpy yeah, that would be one of the bugs, i've hit the ball though the walls a few times
[03:54] <helpy> even google docs suck.
[03:54] <flaccid_> well i've done many tables in Ooo and as for animations im not sure how they fit into an office productivity prodcut
[03:54] <helpy> hehe i dont think its bug, i am a bad player
[03:54] <flaccid_> i don't see any bugs here
[03:54] <helpy> too many of em flaccid_
[03:54] <flaccid_> bugs with what exactly?
[03:54] <helpy> there are alot of features in office that you can't use in openoffice
[03:54] <flaccid_> Ooo ?
[03:55] <helpy> references, APA, etc
[03:55] <flaccid_> helpy, well Ooo != MSoffice so why would you expect it
[03:55] <helpy> Ooo ?
[03:55] <PhoenixGI> helpy Open Office . org
[03:55] <flaccid_> so these are not bugs merely what the user wants in the program but is not
[03:55] <helpy> yea but atleast it should display the files correctly
[03:55] <helpy> it doesnt
[03:56] <flaccid_> #Openoffice.org might be happy to advise you alternatives to msoffice features but dont' expect it to be msoffice
[03:56] <helpy> you make a file in .doc and when you open it in openoffice it loses formatting
[03:56] <helpy> and its ugly
[03:56] <flaccid_> helpy, which file type are you talking about?
[03:56] <helpy> .doc
[03:56] <flaccid_> helpy, tahts because its a microsoft closed format reverse engineered. no reason why it should render correctly... use the OASIS open document formats instead :)
[03:56] <sensae> Okay wtf
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> helpy: Office 2007?
[03:57] <helpy> in linux ?
[03:57] <sensae> I just changed my desktop path to /home/sensae/Desktop
[03:57] <sensae> and now all of / is showing up on my desktop
[03:57] <flaccid_> on any OS
[03:57] <helpy> OASIS open documents format, whats that ?
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> sensae: thats a common problem... search for it on launchpad
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> !bugs
[03:57] <flaccid_> sensae, i've seen that before, not sure why it happens, try #kde perhaps and !bugs
[03:57] <helpy> you can run MS 07 on any OS ?
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> no
[03:58] <flaccid_> helpy, just like it says. its the ISO standard for docs... you can look it up on google/wikipedia :)
[03:58] <nosrednaekim> I'm saying... were these docs generated on Office 2007?
[03:58] <flaccid_> helpy, no i was talkinga bout Ooo
[03:58] <tico> hello is there a command i can type in konsole in order to go into the system settings?
[03:58] <flaccid_> generated on any version of msword they are not going to render 100% because microsoft has not released the spec for doc. docx, different story..
[03:59] <flaccid_> tico, systemsettings
[03:59]  * helpy confused
[03:59] <flaccid_> helpy, you should probably researched first :)
[03:59] <helpy> fine
[03:59] <tico> heheh ok thanks
[03:59] <flaccid_> helpy, i'll get you a link mate
[03:59] <PhoenixGI> How is open office with .docx files?
[04:00] <PhoenixGI> does it read them well?
[04:00] <helpy> not at all
[04:00] <flaccid_> PhoenixGI, um i can't remember tbh
[04:00] <helpy> you can't open em
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> I opend some
[04:00] <helpy> no way!
[04:00] <helpy> really ?
[04:00] <nosrednaekim> not too good of compatibility though
[04:00] <flaccid_> helpy, its new so its probably being developed atm
[04:00] <helpy> even google docs lose formatting
[04:01] <flaccid_> still its a good thing they dont' work properly in Ooo otherwise people wouldn't use the open formats as much and accept microsoft which is a bad thing
[04:01] <flaccid_> helpy, this is what happens when you use a microsoft closed format. dont expect any consistancy.
[04:01] <PhoenixGI> Suppose I could just open office 2007 on the other PC and make a docx real quick
[04:01] <helpy> MS is a curse.
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> PhoenixGI: I'm talkin MS office
[04:02] <PhoenixGI> err I could just open: MS office 2007
[04:02] <nosrednaekim> :P
[04:02] <flaccid_> open document formats are crucial and thus why they were ratified: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument
[04:02] <flaccid_> helpy, so get into the habit of .odt and not .doc and spread the word :)
[04:02] <sensae> Fixed
[04:02] <PhoenixGI> nosrednaekim yeah so was I, amazing how importatent punctuation is sometimes
[04:03] <flaccid_> i do latex for a lot of docs then can export to odt
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> PhoenixGI: ... haha... oh wow... I'm tired
[04:03] <nosrednaekim> later guys
[04:03] <PhoenixGI> Later Nosrednaekim
[04:05] <Owner> hello. I just installed ubuntu server edition and I'm trying to get my broadcom wireless card working. I see on the ubuntu site there's a new wireless driver (b43). Can I just install the firmware (from the cafuego repository), restart and have working wireless?
[04:07] <flaccid_> Owner, there should be a guide there that confirms that but thats generally it, which links are you following?
[04:07] <Owner> flaccid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/b43, a few others from help.ubuntu.com
[04:09] <flaccid_> Owner, just confirm your entry in lspci please for the card
[04:10] <Owner> flaccid: 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[04:11] <flaccid_> i assume thats a 43xx ? that 9 there doesn't mean anything. i guess you confirmed?
[04:11] <flaccid_> Owner, this is hardy?
[04:11] <WillMc> Hello all
[04:12] <Owner> flaccid: yes, this is hardy, yes it's a 43xx. When I've done this before that's what I've used. I don't know what the 9 there means, but it's never made a difference
[04:12] <WillMc> Has anyone ever tried to install hardy on a SONY VAIO?
[04:13] <flaccid_> Owner, cool. go for it ! :) i just had a look some people report problems but just let us know if you do
[04:13] <Owner> flaccid: it worked!
[04:13] <flaccid_> WillMc, lots have
[04:13] <Owner> I'm pinging google now and gettign responses :-)
[04:13] <flaccid_> Owner, sweet yeah from what i have heard the new driver is better and reliable. so hopefully its all fun from here
[04:14] <flaccid_> Owner, thats heaps better than what people used to have to go through so good news :)
[04:14] <WillMc> It keeps hanging on me. Do I have to be online to install?
[04:14] <Owner> flaccid: wonderful. Thanks for your help. I know, I've been on linux with this computer for a couple years; it used to be terrible
[04:15] <flaccid_> WillMc, don't need online or any network to install. where does it hang? you might need to try the alternate cd possibly, but you sure the disc and the hard disk are fine ?
[04:15] <Owner> flaccid: one last question for you. I'm going to be compiling kde4 on this computer. I've done it on a regular kubuntu install. Do you know if there are any important things that are in the desktop version and not the server one?
[04:15] <flaccid_> Owner, hehe i didn't do anything it was all you :) yeah i was happy when intel was all fixed, rock on..
[04:16] <flaccid_> Owner, not sure why you are mixing server and desktop and putting GUI on desktop?
[04:16] <WillMc> It hangs when the cusor come on. Instead I get a X
[04:17] <flaccid_> WillMc, if your disks are fine then give the alternate cd a shot which is a text installer, thats the quickest way to troubleshoot (but do try safe graphics mode from the menu on boot first)
[04:17] <Owner> flaccid: my computer wasn't happy at all with hardy kde packages. It would freeze up (to the point where my clock would go in 5-10 second increments) every 30 minutes or so. I'm looking for something a little bit more lightweight, so I figured I'd do a basic (server) install and compile kde myself
[04:18] <flaccid_> i think you made a bad assumption assuming it was the packages
[04:18] <WillMc> I just installed xp on the hard drive..So I knoiw my drives are good..I do have a nvidia card in it. Maybe that's the problem.
[04:19] <flaccid_> Owner, if you wanted to build it up from minimal then you should of used the minimal cd first and not the server..
[04:19] <flaccid_> WillMc, quite possible especially if its new card not in the driver db
[04:20] <Owner> flaccid: what do you think the problem was? All other versions of kubuntu have run fine. (Minimal = alternate install CD?)
[04:20] <WillMc> It was too good to be true. I bought the machine at a yard sale for 5 bux
[04:21] <flaccid_> Owner, the problem could of been thousands of possibilities. would of been better to diagnose it at the time which could of saved doing all of this
[04:21] <flaccid_> WillMc, ah coolio. well you can always troubleshoot the X problem but since you are installing its going to be easier to just use the alternate text installer
[04:22] <flaccid_> Owner, oh and minimal cd is not the alternate cd is totally different
[04:22] <flaccid_> !minimal
[04:23] <PhoenixGI> ok I'm happy, Ooo CAN open a docx and a xlsx files
[04:23] <WillMc> Ok..I'll try that.
[04:23] <flaccid_> coolio
[04:23] <sensae> Okay, um
[04:24] <flaccid_> WillMc, for you, the alternate cd not the minimal one fyi
[04:24] <sensae> I installed virtualbox-ose-modules-generic, and it installed for kernel .17. I'm using 18. Do the repos just not have any for .18 yet or what?
[04:24] <sensae> *-17 and -18
[04:24] <flaccid_> !info virtualbox-ose-modules-generic
[04:25] <PhoenixGI> granted some of the coloring didn't make it over, but still, the styles did, and the layout so just have to tweek a little and done
[04:25] <flaccid_> sensae, um maybe you just have to reinstall the package for the new kernel
[04:25] <sensae> flaccid: I don't see a package for the new kernel
[04:25] <sensae> The latest I see is virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.24-17-generic
[04:26] <flaccid_> i will double check, it doesn't look pre compiled to me
[04:27] <flaccid_> sensae, i think you are right. what is your sudo apt-cache madison virtualbox-ose-modules-generic ?
[04:29] <sensae> virtualbox-ose-modules-generic | 24.0.1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy -updates/universe Packages
[04:29] <vitviper> hey
[04:29] <vitviper> how do I configure my drives to be mounted at boot time?
[04:29] <sensae> And one more, same package name, 24 instead of 24.0.1 and just /universe instead of -updates/universe
[04:29] <flaccid_> sensae, yep see even updates its at least 1 point behind. i think you are spot on..
[04:30] <flaccid_> vitviper, disks and filesystems in system settings
[04:31] <sensae> Well damn
[04:32] <flaccid_> yeah
[04:32] <vitviper> doesn't work
[04:32] <sensae> lol so what should I do for now? Just boot into -17?
[04:33] <vitviper> i have to go into Store from the K panel, and click in a drive... then it prompts me for a password
[04:33] <vitviper> extremely annoying
[04:33] <vitviper> especially since my background picture is off on a different drive
[04:33] <vitviper> lol
[04:33] <sensae> Oh I hate that. My background picture is on an NFS share, lol
[04:34] <flaccid_> !doesntwork | vitviper
[04:34] <flaccid_> sensae, if thats suffice yeah i guess
[04:34] <vitviper> ubottu: the drives aren't mounted automatically
[04:34] <vitviper> :p
[04:35] <flaccid_> apologies vitviper i had some lag
[04:35] <vitviper> ah
[04:35]  * flaccid_ looks at his overpriced wireless connection
[04:35] <flaccid_> vitviper, did you even enable them in system settings | disk and filesystems ?
[04:35] <vitviper> i'll edit the rc.local and put in mount commands if I have to
[04:35] <vitviper> yeah been in there flaccid
[04:35] <sensae> Restarting :x
[04:35] <flaccid_> vitviper, no you use fstab if you do it manul
[04:36] <flaccid_> !fstab | vitviper
[04:36] <flaccid_> rc.local is the incorrect place to do it
[04:36] <vitviper> i know flaccid_, seen that too
[04:36] <vitviper> i'm not new to linux
[04:36] <flaccid_> then why would you suggest rc.local ?
[04:36] <vitviper> just to point out how annoyed I am
[04:36] <flaccid_> lol
[04:37] <NickPresta> vitviper, what are you having a problem with?
[04:37] <flaccid_> vitviper, you could help everyone and report the bug :)
[04:37] <vitviper> i don't even know if it's a bug
[04:37] <doorknob60> can someone unbvan my ip from #ubuntu please, my brother spammed in it and got me banned -.-
[04:37] <vitviper> however my laptop does the same thing
[04:37] <NickPresta> doorknob60, join #ubuntu-ops
[04:37] <flaccid_> doorknob60, #ubuntu-ops
[04:37] <doorknob60> okay thanks
[04:38] <flaccid_> vitviper, well im pretty sure its meant to be persistant and do fstab. im not on kde atm i'll google
[04:38] <geniola> hola
[04:38] <NickPresta> if you're trying to mount something every time at boot, and always want that partition/disk/what ever to be mounted, put it in your fstab
[04:38] <vitviper> i'm not 100% familiar with all the mount options in /etc/fstab
[04:38] <NickPresta> !es | geniola
[04:38] <NickPresta> vitviper, `man mount` and `man fstab`
[04:38] <flaccid_> NickPresta, isn't disks and filesystems a frontend to fstab?
[04:39] <vitviper> flaccid_: it's supposed to be
[04:39] <NickPresta> flaccid_, yeah. it should be, however, if you have something very complicated (cifs share) D&F might not work/be too simple. I've never used D&F so I don't know :)
[04:39] <flaccid_> i don't think this case is complicated
[04:40] <vitviper> for an automatic mount
[04:40] <vitviper> what do I add to fstab
[04:41] <flaccid_> vitviper, ubottu pasted a link. it depends the type of disk, its dev, the perms, the options, the mountpoint etc. so i couldn't tell you straight up..
[04:41] <flaccid_> !ntfs
[04:41] <flaccid_> ^^ the auto mount link above is not a bad summary
[04:41] <vitviper> yeah they're all ntfs
[04:41] <vitviper> thanks
[04:42] <flaccid_> vitviper, ignore the ntfs part. ntfs is just a type, its just under the wrong factoid
[04:43] <flaccid_> vitviper, a kde user has advised that in disks and filesystems, on each entry there is a mount button and an enable button. mount mounts and enable puts it in fstab. if enable fails to add to fstab please submit a bug :)
[04:45] <PhoenixGI> Dang, I must be getting tired... I saw that converstation flaccid_ and was think... hmm the nick looks familar
[04:45] <PhoenixGI> I'm just lerking in to many channels I think
[04:46] <vitviper> flaccid_: last time I checked it added the fstab, still wasn't mounted tho
[04:46] <vitviper> ok, i'll let you know how it goes, just updated my fstab
[04:46] <vitviper> brb
[04:47] <sensae> So guess what. The -17 kernel doesn't play nice with Compiz and I can't get X to run. It only runs in -18
[04:49] <crimsun> so try -19 in -proposed
[04:49] <sensae> How will that help me, when a module doesn't even exist for -18? I'm trying to get Virtualbox to run
[04:49] <inaety> how do i set CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to the correct path
[04:50] <deamon3> i need the backtrack repositories
[04:51] <vitviper> that's better
[04:51] <vitviper> now i don't have to mount and reset my background every riggin' boot
[04:51] <vitviper> lol
[04:53] <santiago-ve> shesh... first time i go to some event.. and people asks for Kubuntu cds directly... (+20 cds where given :p)
[04:53] <deamon3> hey
[04:54] <deamon3> i need the repositories
[04:54] <sensae> How do I install a proposed package?
[04:54] <vitviper> i love linux
[04:54] <vitviper> i'm glad it's finally at a desktop usuable state
[04:54] <PhoenixGI> santiago-ve: and the problem is?
[04:54] <vitviper> i just wiped Vista off two machines
[04:55] <Qster> had a question.. i have 2 folders that i put in trash bin but wont let me empty trash bin.. says i dont have permission
[04:55] <Qster> but cant restore them either..
[04:56] <santiago-ve> sensae, open adept, in the adept menu, the second option (Manage repository i think), it will open a pop up window
[04:56] <flaccid_> vitviper, how you go. i guess its a mount problem then in that case and not the gui frontend
[04:56] <flaccid_> oh swewet vitviper :)
[04:56] <santiago-ve> sensae, in the 3rd tab... updates... there you go
[04:57] <sensae> and then pre-released?
[04:58] <santiago-ve> PhoenixGI, first time this happens... :p we had to burn many kubuntu cds.. because we ran out of them~
[04:58] <santiago-ve> that never happens...
[04:58]  * santiago-ve is happy
[04:58] <santiago-ve> xD
[04:58] <santiago-ve> sensae, yes
[05:01]  * mr--t bids all a good night....
[05:19] <frybye> Hi - I have just d-loaded the f-foxv3rc2 as a *.bz2 and unpacked it - what is the next thing I need to do to install - I am on a 64bit system..?
[05:19] <frybye> - I was however really looking for the ff3<final-> which i got automatically on windows.. but could not find the manual download..
[05:20] <frybye> flaccid: morning pal - you wanna take a look at this perhaps?
[05:21] <frybye> anybody else got ff3<final> installed???
[05:21] <NickPresta> frybye, I don't know if its any different for 64bit systems but navigate to the folder you extracted the files to and then run: ./firefox/firefox-bin
[05:21] <rollo> read the INSTALL or README
[05:22] <frybye> ok thanks...
[05:23] <NickPresta> oh sorry. You should run 'firefox', not 'firefox-bin'
[05:23] <NickPresta> so: ./firefox/firefox
[05:24] <frybye> yeah i have got it .. I thought that would just be a text about - how too - but was a script and installed the thing...
[05:25] <frybye> still a little bit disappointed - cos the final got auto-updated on the vista box and here rc2 dosent find any updates..
[05:26] <frybye> on the windows box there appears to be the ffox3-final installed - but I find no references to it being available yet with google - or at the mozilla.org pages..
[05:27] <frybye> ah -my mistake.. rc2 calls itself firefox3 in the "about" menu point.. that will be what I have on the windows box also I guess..
[05:27] <antzikal> ﻿hello everyone. first of all i am starter, next , i have a problem with codecs , i vave kaffeine and mplayer installed and almost every codec library , thought when i try to play a video i hear the sound but i got a static blue frame, anyone can help me?
[05:28] <antzikal> anyone?
[05:28] <PhoenixGI> antzikal what type of file is the video?
[05:28] <flaccid_> frybye, firefox help in #firefox ?
[05:28] <antzikal> .avi .mpg mostly
[05:29] <antzikal> no video  can be played
[05:29] <flaccid_> antzikal, which codec packages are installed and is this all video players?
[05:31] <antzikal> well i downloaded every library that i found that had to do with videos (not so good i dea i guess) but i hoped that one of these might work
[05:31] <frybye> flaccid it is resolved - the confusion was just because f-fox3rc2 calls itself "firefox3" in the "about" menu-point... np - tks...
[05:31] <flaccid_> antzikal, what is every library, what are the pkgs installed?
[05:31] <flaccid_> fair enough
[05:31] <frybye> ah - now I understand - the channel f-fox ok... sorry..
[05:32] <PhoenixGI> hmmm was hoping it was going to be something easy like wmvs so I could point to restircted formats like I knew what I was doing
[05:32] <flaccid_> firefox aint even qt :p
[05:32] <antzikal> well, w8 about what u said to the other channel, about the drivers
[05:32] <flaccid_> huh
[05:32] <antzikal> o got there. what should  i choose/
[05:33]  * flaccid_ is confused
[05:33] <PhoenixGI> I think we're missing half the conversation here flaccid_
[05:33] <flaccid_> hehe ok. the other flaccid is at home, im at my gf's :)
[05:42] <frybye> if anybody here like to help installing flash-plugin in firefox3rc2 on a 64bit machine - please come to #firefox?
[05:43] <flaccid_> flash doesn't work on 64bit. there is some workarounds on the net but they are pretty hectic and its not stable
[05:43] <flaccid_> give adobe a call :)
[05:45] <frybye> flaccid: it has been working on ff3b5 up to now - but after moving to ff3rc2 it has fallen over...
[05:45] <ubuntu> How do I switch to administrator mode?
[05:46] <frybye> flaccid: my hindi is not good enoug to speak directly with the people who would really be able to support this stuff I gues...
[05:46] <ubuntu> K
[05:46] <frybye> ubuntu: put    sudo   in front of the commands...
[05:47] <frybye> flaccid: should I use the nswrapper...?
[05:48] <frybye> hmm now I see this should not be used on hardy.. hmmm
[05:50] <flaccid_> frybye, using sudo != administrator mode
[05:50] <flaccid_> frybye, i don't even know what nswrapper is.. i use Opera
[05:51] <flaccid_> so flash 64bit was runnong before?
[05:51] <flaccid_> they must put the hook in it then
[05:51] <flaccid_> frybye, how did you go with google search as well?
[05:53] <flaccid_> ah thats like netscape wrapper. flash is a beast :(
[05:54] <frybye> in google up till now I hve found infos that relate to older editions of kubuntu... not to hardy...
[05:54] <flaccid_> im not sure how the version of ubuntu would make a difference, is there a reason why it would?
[05:54] <frybye> - well that is also not tru it gives a command for using on hardy.. but that just reports that the plugin is already installed..
[05:54] <flaccid_> lol @ adobe official comment: http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=6b3af6c9&sliceId=2
[05:55] <frybye> it was working with ff3b5 till i got the ff3rc2 and it dosent work with that...
[05:55] <frybye> hang on...
[05:55] <flaccid_> um im not sure what you are going on. don't assume anything until you know why it is not working..
[05:56] <flaccid_> its like getting a new car, crashing and then blaming the new car :)
[05:56] <frybye> just the fact that when hitting a www-site needing flash i am offered the plugin - and when doing the install it offers it again and again...
[05:56] <flaccid_> err i wouldn't expect that thing to work at all
[05:56] <frybye> if the reason for the crash was that a wheel fell off - ok then i blame the car - even if it is new... heheh
[05:57] <flaccid_> i've never seen that work
[05:57] <flaccid_> frybye, but you don't know why yet so can't blame :)
[05:57] <frybye> flaccid us europeans are perhaps not such scaredy-run-away lillies after all heheh
[05:57] <frybye> because adobe give a damp cuss about us linux people and the 64bit stuff anyhows.. that is why.. heheh
[05:58] <flaccid_> oky doky. but i mean have you even installed flash and if so pastebin output of sudo updatedb && sudo locate libflashplayer.so please
[05:58] <flaccid_> this is the nature of closed commercial software :(
[05:59] <frybye> ok I will post the paste of that.. give me 5
[05:59] <frybye> and wether I like closed commercial or not - one has to live with the world the way it is and not the way is should be or..?
[06:00] <flaccid_> frybye, correct. but the problems of the closed source worlds should not be the open world's problems
[06:00] <flaccid_> ie. never expect the closed to work with the open
[06:00] <frybye> - we are back to the is ./. should argument...
[06:01] <flaccid_> im not arguing just making comments really
[06:02] <frybye> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18252/
[06:02] <frybye> flaccid - i mean argument in the sence of debate - achedemically...
[06:03] <flaccid_> yeah sorry classic argument in that case i guess. im just sick of the issues with this sofware type. im also a web standards advocate so im against flash :)
[06:03] <frybye> flaccid - most of us are forced to have one foot in openand closed -
[06:04] <flaccid_> no we are not forced. we have to make the decision... nobody is forced to do anything :)
[06:05] <frybye> flaccid - what one is up against here is not so much open and closed software standards - but fundamental built-in conflicts in the capitalist social-ecconomic system.. we need to discuss that on #politics though...
[06:06] <flaccid_> um there are many aspects to it
[06:06] <frybye> so long as a relatively small number of shareholders have an inordinatly large amount of power based on thier capital accrument abilities - then the interests of this small profit-motivated but powerfull group will be in conflict with the mass of folks who dont have capital or much of it..
[06:07] <flaccid_> thats a garble
[06:07] <frybye> the business of flash and lack of support for it is on one level an expression of the above..
[06:07] <frybye> one could just see it as a default in the organisational skills within adobe.. (that would be reassuringing if that was all it is...)
[06:07] <flaccid_> probably not interested in discussing my philosophy here, i was just voicing the problem. at the end of the day us discussing aint going to change the status quo..
[06:08] <frybye> true..
[06:08] <frybye> although the strength of netizen opinion has been demonstrated in s.korea a couple of times.. anyhows..
[06:09] <frybye> u see the past-up???
[06:09] <frybye> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18252/
[06:09] <flaccid_> nah, looking now
[06:09] <frybye> k
[06:11] <flaccid_> frybye, what command was that?
[06:15] <flaccid_> frybye, its not the one i requested :(
[06:18] <frybye> that was sudo updatedb && sudo locate libflashplayer
[06:18] <frybye> is that "b" on the end of updated**b** right???
[06:20] <flaccid_> um the one you pasted is like from apt/dpkg. sudo updatedb updates your locate database so im not sure how that came through
[06:20] <flaccid_> yeah its updatedb
[06:25] <Janice8954> Hey guys.
[06:25] <Janice8954> Does anyone know how to setup a server?
[06:25] <Janice8954> Using a Belkin Router
[06:25] <flaccid_> what type of server?
[06:26] <Janice8954> Not really sure. I want it be the place where all my files are kept from Ubustu and I can access them from  other PCs wirelessly
[06:26] <frybye> flaccid - and that was the wrong command... you requested which one.. i will do again...?
[06:27] <flaccid_> Janice8954, well a router is not going to set up a file server for you, thats what an OS like ubuntu is for
[06:27] <flaccid_> !samba | Janice8954
[06:27] <Janice8954> Windows?
[06:27] <flaccid_> set up samba and just file share like windows, thats the one thats easiest for you Janice8954
[06:27] <Janice8954> I don't have windows on any computer
[06:28] <flaccid_> you don't need windows
[06:28] <flaccid_> frybye, i don't understand how the command i gave could output that apt/dpkg stuff..
[06:28] <Janice8954> flaccid can it be installed via Synaptic
[06:28] <flaccid_> Janice8954, it just means that if a windows or mac pc go on your lan then they can access too if they like
[06:29] <flaccid_> Janice8954, yes
[06:29] <Janice8954> easy to setup?
[06:29] <flaccid_> yep
[06:29] <Janice8954> Do I have to have it on all machines?
[06:29] <Janice8954> that run Ubuntu?
[06:30] <Janice8954> Also, do you know is it possible to Upgrade from Dapper to Hardy without CD?
[06:30] <Janice8954> Like the same way I went from Vanilla to Ubustu?
[06:30] <flaccid_> nope
[06:30] <Janice8954> It's not possible?
[06:30] <flaccid_> that was the answer to your first question. the second question is: yes
[06:30] <Janice8954> ohkay.
[06:31] <Janice8954> have any idea where I can that information to do that/
[06:31] <Janice8954> The upgrade I mean.
[06:31] <flaccid_> but if you are doing an upgrade like that its not for new users but rather ones with pkg knowledge
[06:31] <flaccid_> !upgrade | Janice8954
[06:31] <flaccid_> not that we don't support that type of ugprade but i've done it many times. its not easy for new users
[06:32] <Janice8954> Similar to the Ubustu upgrade?
[06:32] <Janice8954> Im really not all that new. There is just a lot I don't know that can be done yet.
[06:32] <Janice8954> There is documentation for almost everything anyway right
[06:32] <Janice8954> That's how I have been learning Ubuntu for the last 5 years.
[06:32] <flaccid_> Janice8954, well its the same ubuntu and kubuntu use the same repos.
[06:33] <flaccid_> i dont know what ubustu is if thats something different
[06:34] <gkffjcs> how do I forcefully unmount an nfs mount?
[06:34] <flaccid_> gkffjcs, sudo umoun -l /media/mountpoint
[06:34] <flaccid_> umount -l
[06:34] <Janice8954> It's Ubuntu Studio
[06:34] <flaccid_> ah fair enough Janice8954
[06:35] <Janice8954> oh on a more serious note.
[06:35] <Janice8954> When I boot up the machine in question it goes through Grub and the screen goes out.
[06:35] <gkffjcs> thanks flaccid_
[06:35] <Janice8954> Like Video goes out.
[06:35] <Janice8954> But then if i press the power buton it comes back to shut down.
[06:36] <Janice8954> This just started when i moved the Box to another room
[06:36] <flaccid_> Janice8954, im not sure your boot issue but pressing power button will turn it off/power down depending what stage of the boot its up to..
[06:37] <Janice8954> I know.
[06:37] <flaccid_> Janice8954, so you select the entry in grub, does it get to init
[06:37] <Janice8954> Theorettically  it boots fine.
[06:37] <flaccid_> ?
[06:37] <flaccid_> then i don't see a problem. i must not understand
[06:37] <Janice8954> I am splaining
[06:38] <Janice8954> Once it gets past Grub and the status bar. Right before is loads the Login Screen the video goes out. My monitor loses signal
[06:38] <flaccid_> at what stage in the process? its probably normally as its loading usplash ?
[06:38] <Janice8954> Right before Usplash
[06:38] <flaccid_> otherwise i have no idea, could just be the monitor, how long signal goes out for?
[06:38] <Janice8954> It's not the monitor.
[06:39] <Janice8954> I unplugged it, plugged it back in etc.
[06:39] <Janice8954> It loses signal indefinately
[06:39] <Janice8954> I haven't tried blindly typing the password to see if that works.
[06:40] <flaccid_> Janice8954, rightio. i guess you could try disabling usplash... your videocard may not like that or framebuffer..
[06:40] <flaccid_> ie. until it gets a driver in X
[06:43] <Janice8954> Know anything about how to get ATI working?L
[06:44] <Janice8954> I have a card that I want to put in, but it acts up in there as well lol
[06:45] <flaccid_> yeah im an ATI expert as i have to put up with my radeon 9600 :)
[06:45] <Janice8954> Cool, I have an old Radeon 7000
[06:46] <flaccid_> still its all on the wiki and you just need hardware drivers manager if you want to use restricted. yeah ive set one of those up before
[06:46] <Janice8954> I put it in, power up. It loads. It runs through the checklist then I just get a black status bar.
[06:46] <Janice8954> Even from the LiveCD
[06:47] <flaccid_> black status bar? usplash?
[06:47] <Janice8954> blank*
[06:47] <Janice8954> Yeppers
[06:47] <Janice8954> You know. The nice Blue Kubuntu deal.
[06:47] <flaccid_> yeah so goto another tty, login and then check Xorg log why it didn't work. /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:47] <flaccid_> yep
[06:47] <Janice8954> tty?
[06:47] <Janice8954> ctl alt bkspc?
[06:48] <flaccid_> Janice8954, ctrl+alt+f2
[06:48] <Janice8954> okay
[06:56] <frybye> what is the command to check what the version of the installed ssh is???
[06:57] <crimsun> ssh -V
[06:57] <crimsun> or dpkg -l openssh-client|grep ^ii
[06:59] <flaccid_> frybye, if its server, the pkg name is openssh-server fyi
[07:06] <jeevaka> yo room
[07:06] <Janice8954> flaccid I did different tty? And then I tried to startx
[07:06] <Janice8954> It says that screen found but no useable configuration
[07:07] <flaccid_> Janice8954, well thats to be expected because kdm is already running. this is not what i asked. i asked for you to check the log..
[07:07] <flaccid_> ie. more /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:07] <Janice8954> That's how to do that?
[07:07] <Janice8954> Okay, I have to write down and then go to other room
[07:07] <flaccid_> ok
[07:08] <vitviper> now this is annoying
[07:08] <Janice8954> Damn computer cut 4 of my fingers simultaneously
[07:08] <vitviper> flaccid_: i got another one fo ryou
[07:12] <frybye> which command to get the configuration of ssh listed??
[07:13] <flaccid_> frybye, ssh listed?
[07:13] <Janice8954> flaccid: no such file
[07:14] <flaccid_> Janice8954, are you sure ? does ls /var/log | grep -i xorg return anything?
[07:15] <flaccid_> frybye, please try google and the wiki first. there is lots on configuring openssh server
[07:17] <frybye> ok flac
[07:17] <frybye> flaccid: ok - take your point..
[07:18] <flaccid_> sweet. most of my time here is spent searching the net for people. i wouldnt mind getting paid if thats what i have to do :)
[07:18] <Janice8954> I got flaccid
[07:18] <flaccid_> you got me?
[07:18] <flaccid_> luck you :)
[07:18] <Janice8954> What exactly am I looking for in the log
[07:18] <Janice8954> lol
[07:19] <flaccid_> you can do this to see warnings: grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log and grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[07:20] <flaccid_> you are looking mainly at the end part of the log where it would run into the issue and then die..
[07:20] <Janice8954> Well I do know its still using the integrated display device
[07:20]  * rollo admires flaccid_'s patience with unableToGooglePeople
[07:20] <Janice8954> So I think that's the problem all along
[07:21] <flaccid_> frybye, did you fix your flash? or did you give me a new pastebin?
[07:21] <Janice8954> rollo.  I do know how to google. There is just nothing that addresses my particular problem
[07:21] <flaccid_> Janice8954, lets not assume until we confirm
[07:21] <Janice8954> Okay,brb
[07:21] <flaccid_> Janice8954, i wasn't referring to you:)
[07:22] <rollo> no it was more a global statement
[07:22] <Janice8954> What do you mean by grab?
[07:22] <Janice8954> Just run that command as well
[07:23] <flaccid_> i never said grab. its grep which is the command
[07:23] <flaccid_> Janice8954, eg command is this: grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:25] <Janice8954> Well for warnings it says that Detected stolen Memor doesn't match what the bios reported
[07:26] <flaccid_> and errors?
[07:27] <Janice8954> !pastebin
[07:29] <flaccid_> Janice8954, if you can pastebin the whole log that would be sweet :)
[07:31] <Janice8954> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18263/
[07:31] <flaccid_> thanks
[07:31] <flaccid_> oww i just heart my fingers
[07:32] <Janice8954> ?
[07:32] <Janice8954> I just cut the hell out of my fingers
[07:32] <Janice8954> Right on the tip of one. Pretty deep as well.
[07:32] <Janice8954> So I have this stupid bandage thats  interfering with my typing lol
[07:32] <flaccid_> yeah and i just banged mine against a railing and its cold..
[07:32] <neon2323> http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/1370978/amazing_balance_of_coins.swf   o_O
[07:32] <neon2323> http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/1370978/amazing_balance_of_coins.swf   o_O
[07:32] <Janice8954> cold?
[07:32] <flaccid_> Janice8954, any chance you can pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:32] <Janice8954> Its 95 here I think
[07:33] <flaccid_> !ot | neon2323
[07:33] <flaccid_> Janice8954, im in australia, were use the more censible centigrade :)
[07:33] <Janice8954> command not found
[07:34] <Janice8954> ah, so it probably 36 then
[07:34] <flaccid_> Janice8954, i gave the file, the command is cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:34] <frybye> how do I use the command line to get a printup of man ssh??
[07:35] <flaccid_> frybye, lots on google if you search for how to print man pages
[07:35] <frybye> sorry.. i used to know all this stuff years and years back but have forgotten it again...
[07:35] <Janice8954> Yeah  um there is no way I can pastebin that
[07:35] <stdin> man ssh | lp -
[07:35] <stdin> ^ would print the man-page :)
[07:36] <frybye> flaccid the trouble is with a lota info on google there is the assumption often that one has a lot of background inknowledge..
[07:36] <flaccid_> i think there is man:/ in konq/dolphin as well
[07:36] <Janice8954> in fact, I can't even view the whole thing
[07:36] <flaccid_> frybye, that would be the same as here. it not like that for everything. still what you dont understand there you can get help with here
[07:37] <frybye> ok stdin thanks... (that was a whole lot quicker than sorting thru 289.000 results in google heheheh
[07:37] <flaccid_> Janice8954, just let me know what you got for grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:37] <Janice8954> lucky for me I know nano
[07:37] <frybye> hmm now I dont know how to close the man ssh that I have open right now...
[07:37] <stdin> when you're trying to configure a printer on a server with no X, you learn about the "lp" command
[07:38] <flaccid_> frybye, man man :) ie. press q
[07:38] <frybye> tried control - x crontrol - s - ok thanks.. i remember now..
[07:39] <Janice8954> flaccid: It is still saying that the display device  is the Intel Crap deal
[07:39] <Janice8954> and the driver is such
[07:39] <frybye> with man ssh | lp it says no standard target available...?
[07:39] <Janice8954> but I will run that command as well
[07:40] <Janice8954> Yeap
[07:40] <flaccid_> Janice8954, um if you have two video cards its up to you to disable one in bios?
[07:40] <flaccid_> Janice8954, also the erros from the log mention the monitor being the problem, thus i wouldn't mind seeing all monitor sections in xorg.conf
[07:40] <Janice8954> And I access BIOS by pressing F whatever during startup?
[07:40] <flaccid_> Janice8954, depends on bios, could be del or f2
[07:40] <Janice8954> It's fe
[07:41] <Janice8954> Okay, brb
[07:41] <frybye> I have the printer config gui open in system manager mode but cant see how to define a standard printer..
[07:41] <stdin> frybye: do you have a default printer set? or just use konqueror (man:/ssh)
[07:41]  * rollo_ wounders what frybye's bill would be if support would cost :)
[07:41] <frybye> ok I hve it - right click on the printer in there..
[07:41] <flaccid_> !printer
[07:42] <frybye> rollo - it does cost - it costs me in the future spending zillions of minutes supporting other newbies or..?
[07:42] <flaccid_> frybye, run kdesudo system-config-printer-kde
[07:42] <flaccid_> lol
[07:42] <frybye> i have got it done i think..hang on...
[07:42] <stdin> or just use the -d option to lp to provide the name of the printer to use
[07:42] <rollo_> sorry can't see that at this state frybye
[07:43] <Janice8954> flaccid it already says that PCI is the Primary Video Adapter
[07:43] <stdin> ie: "man ssh | lp -d "Local Pinter" -"
[07:43] <frybye> it has been done...
[07:44] <frybye> the only thing is that for some days the buffer does not flush so I need to switch the printer on and off again to get it to print any new jobs - but it is working now..
[07:44] <frybye> hang on..
[07:44] <frybye> maybe setting it as default printer has fixed that also... heheh
[07:44] <rollo_>                                                                            fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddfddffdfdfdffddddffjjhj;l
[07:45] <flaccid_> Janice8954, the problem is i need to see all these files then to work it out. also need to see lscpi if both video cards are detectable. a quick fix possible is to run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the appropriate options ie. it might prompt which video card
[07:45] <flaccid_> rollo_,  did you just pass out on the keyboard or was that a cat :)
[07:45] <Janice8954> yeah but I am using two machines
[07:45] <rollo_> sorry childern on the keyboard
[07:45] <Janice8954> So I would have to type on that into into pastebin
[07:46] <flaccid_> Janice8954, try my possible quickfix, if not maybe a usb pendrive can be of use
[07:47] <Janice8954> It does show both so I will try your fix
[07:48] <flaccid_> Janice8954, hey also, you select primary in bios so that means its primary but the other one not disabled. might as well use two and configure at least one correctly..
[07:51] <jshewey> Grrr... Can't seem to find out how to install a simple networked jetdirect printer (hp laserjet 4100)
[07:52] <tony_> how can I force kftpgrabber to use active mode?
[07:52] <tony_> any help will be deeply apreciated!
[07:54] <flaccid_> Janice8954, heh and if you swapped it around in bios, it might swap it around in linux. thats a possible fix as well. anyway give us bell if you need help
[07:56] <Janice8954> I did all that and it still says no screens found
[07:56] <tony403> could someone tell me why i can only mount my windows partitions by entering my root password?
[07:57] <coreymon77> tony403: because mounting is a system wide thing
[07:57] <coreymon77> tony403: and anything system wide usually requires root
[07:57] <flaccid_> Janice8954, need to read the log to see why...
[07:57] <flaccid_> tony403, needs to be users option in fstab for that fs . no user mount by default
[07:57] <frybye> each time I send a print job to the buffer I have to switch the printer (canon s450) off and back on to get it to print.  Print qual. etc itself is fine..? any ideas..?
[07:58] <flaccid_> coreymon77, you can user mount anything :)
[07:58] <tony403> yes, i know. i guess i mean to say why it won't let me because it used to let me before
[07:58] <tony403> flaccid_, thanks, i'll check it
[07:58] <flaccid_> tony403, needs an fstab entry with users options
[07:58] <flaccid_> :)
[07:59] <gwp> how do I install a .gz file from console?
[07:59] <Masiosare> tony403: If you are not comfortable with the command line you could install pysdm and configure em from there.
[07:59] <flaccid_> tony403, i'd just goto system settings - disks and filesystems and enable it there but depends on your requirements
[07:59] <flaccid_> gwp, you can't install it, but you can extract it with tar
[07:59] <flaccid_> i mean gzip
[07:59] <gwp> after extracted how do I install it, whats the command is what I was getting at
[07:59] <gwp> I have it extracted
[08:00] <tony403> ok, i was doing the group permissions gui thing
[08:00] <flaccid_> gwp, i have no idea whats in the archive, so i don't know how you would install it...
[08:00] <gwp> its just YamiPod
[08:00] <gwp> thats the filename
[08:01] <flaccid_> i have no idea what yamipod is or how it is distributed. did you read yamipod doco for install? it may also come with README or INSTALL file..
[08:01] <coreymon77> gwp: erm, no deb file or apt install?
[08:02] <gwp> k I am looking at the readme, coreymon77 no
[08:02] <gwp> How do i copy a file with root privledges?
[08:02] <flaccid_> !root | gwp
[08:04] <coreymon77> LOL!
[08:04] <flaccid_> not a great factoid. should get that one changed
[08:05] <gwp> i know how to use su command or sudo command, but sudo move, or su move doesnt work
[08:07] <Janice8954> !pastebin
[08:07] <Ninjara> The 'system-config-printer-applet-kde' python script keeps popping up as a background process every time I login/boot, where is it started from and how do I disable it?
[08:08] <flaccid_> gwp, no worries. move is actually mv :)
[08:08] <Ninjara> I'm using 8.04.
[08:08] <flaccid_> Ninjara, are your sessions turned on?
[08:09] <Ninjara> I have it set to manually restore saved sessions.
[08:09] <flaccid_> Ninjara, so it shouldn't be stuck in your session right ?
[08:09] <Ninjara> No.
[08:09] <flaccid_> and obviously its not in ~/.kde/Autostart ?
[08:09] <Ninjara> I'm pretty darn sure I killed it before the last save.  Even more, I've never used that thing to my recollection.
[08:10] <Ninjara> Nope
[08:10] <Ninjara> That dir is clean
[08:10] <Ninjara> I could just rename the binary since I never use it, but that's kinda messy.
[08:10] <flaccid_> hmm, wonder how its stuck in a session. i guess you could ask in #kde and advise that that binary is stuck in your session
[08:11] <gwp> YamiPod is a binary and the install readme says to make sure df is install, move the lib file and then double click the binary to run it
[08:11] <flaccid_> Ninjara, im trying to think what else could call it besides those two and not a global you would have to create quite manually
[08:11] <gwp> When i do so it trys to use wine to run it and then wine just closes
[08:11] <flaccid_> gwp, is this a windows application or linux?
[08:11] <gwp> linux binary
[08:12] <flaccid_> gwp, goto the folder in konsole then do a ./YamiPod if that doesn't run it you need to chmod +x on it
[08:12] <Ninjara> I figured it'd have to be in /usr/share/autostart, but nothing there seems remotely connected.
[08:12] <flaccid_> Ninjara, im starting to think some application is calling it. but im out of ideas sorry mate
[08:12] <Ninjara> hrm
[08:13] <Ninjara> I'll try another kill,  save and restart just for the sake of it,.
[08:13] <gwp> YamiPod:11473): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[08:13] <gwp> root@george-pc:/home/george/Yam#
[08:13] <gwp> Thats what I am getting now after chmod +x
[08:13] <flaccid_> gwp, thats because you are running it as root which is not what you do.
[08:14] <flaccid_> root is not logged into X so cannot attached to display..
[08:15] <Janice8954> flaccid, I am working on that log lol
[08:15] <flaccid_> Janice8954, yeah a bit of a PITA i can understand.. :)
[08:17] <flaccid_> Janice8954, can you just paste if less than 4 lines here the output of lspci | grep VGA; grep -i BusID /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[08:17] <gwp> now I get Cannot find libgstreamer | Cannot find libxine | Segmentation fault
[08:17] <flaccid_> Janice8954, that will show what is what in the bus and what xorg is using..
[08:18] <flaccid_> gwp, install them :)
[08:18] <Ninjara> Neh..  Closest I can get is that some 'jockey-kde' thing fires up on login too.
[08:18] <gwp> what was the command? sudo apt-get install?
[08:18] <flaccid_> Ninjara, thats the Hardware Drivers Manager. weird behaviour..
[08:19] <flaccid_> gwp, yeah
[08:19] <Janice8954> Wait
[08:19] <Ninjara> hm
[08:19] <Janice8954> I just went to the end flaccid and I got
[08:20] <flaccid_> gwp, i would probably recommend libxine1-all-plugins and libgstreamer0.10-0
[08:21] <Janice8954> (WW) RADEON: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:9:0) found
[08:21] <Janice8954> (EE) No devices detected
[08:21] <flaccid_> Janice8954, i need the output of my last request
[08:21] <gwp> k thanks
[08:21] <flaccid_> np
[08:22] <Janice8954>  Yeah, it says that no such file or directory for grep
[08:23] <Janice8954> is that symbol a "|" ?
[08:23] <gwp> just installed those packages and I am still getting that same error
[08:23] <Janice8954> and is there a space between the "lspci" and the "|" and the "grep" ?
[08:24] <flaccid_> Janice8954, lspci | grep VGA; grep -i BusID /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ... its a pipe
[08:25] <flaccid_> gwp, i don't know what specifically it wants. search on http://packages.ubuntu.com or use sudo apt-cache search libxine for example.
[08:25] <flaccid_> Janice8954, i think you can do it with or without space
[08:26] <Janice8954> still no such file or directory for grep
[08:26] <Janice8954> and again for BusID
[08:27] <flaccid_> Janice8954, are you running it right ? what does just grep or /bin/grep do ?
[08:27] <flaccid_> BusID is not a command so you must be putting it in wrong
[08:27] <Janice8954> there we go
[08:29] <gwp> none of those xinelib files listed install since they all installed with the initial command you gave me
[08:29] <gwp> well im just gonna have to find a better i-pod software
[08:29] <gwp> to use then
[08:29] <gwp> !ipod
[08:30] <skircr115> hello guys
[08:30] <flaccid_> gwp, either that or find out what exactly it wants that it aint getting, but something more native to ubuntu would be easier
[08:30] <gwp> !RockBox
[08:30] <dolf> i use amarok for my ipod and it works perfect
[08:31] <Janice8954> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18279/
[08:32] <flaccid_> Janice8954, do you see the problem there? i do :) when was the last time you ran xorg reconfigure? i assume before you put this card in or something
[08:32] <Janice8954> yeah
[08:32] <Janice8954> I think so
[08:32] <Janice8954>  lol
[08:32] <Janice8954> So what's the command?
[08:34] <skircr115> anyone know where avishek is?
[08:34] <flaccid_> sorry someone at door asking for charity.
[08:34] <Janice8954> Heh.
[08:35] <Janice8954> I hate those people.
[08:35] <flaccid_> Janice8954, ok so which video card is the system physically using Janice8954 ?
[08:35] <Janice8954> ATI
[08:35] <flaccid_> Janice8954, and in xorg.conf what is Driver set to in device section?
[08:36] <Janice8954> "ati"
[08:38] <flaccid_> ok cool that should work, optionally can change to "radeon" but leave for now. change BusID              "PCI:02:2:0" in xorg.conf to BusID              "PCI:02:9:0" and then do a sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[08:40] <flaccid_> just thinking . i guess when you change video cards its best to change driver to vesa before physically changing.. hmm /me thinks
[08:41] <Janice8954> Okay restarting
[08:41] <Janice8954> Oh snap YAY!
[08:41] <Janice8954> You saved me!
[08:42] <Janice8954> However, I had a trick up my sleeve all along, because you didn't tell me how to edit :p
[08:42] <Janice8954> So, I just go to synaptic and download Samba?
[08:43] <flaccid_> hehe yeah and yeah Janice8954 . nice job!
[08:43] <Janice8954> Thank you soooo much
[08:43]  * Janice8954 send flaccid an imaginary basket of crackers and vegemite
[08:44] <flaccid_> my pleasure
[08:44] <flaccid_> lol you aussie or something Janice8954 ?
[08:44] <Janice8954> no, just got a couple kangaroos loose in the top paddock
[08:45] <Janice8954> Yesterday I was up a bloody gum tree trying to find something to eat
[08:46] <flaccid_> hehe. well get me a kanga steak, medium rare :)
[08:47] <Janice8954> Heh, you can have it. I don't care for Kangaroo
[08:47] <Janice8954> It's a bit rangey
[08:51] <flaccid_> Janice8954, maybe a tad, but i've have fooled many people saying its the best steak they have ever had :)
[08:51] <Janice8954> lol
[08:52] <flaccid_> Janice8954, you can also use the restricted ati driver for better performance if you goto Hardware Drivers Manager and enable it and reboot..
[08:54] <Janice8954> oaky
[08:54] <Janice8954> I am setting that machine up in the server room
[08:55] <flaccid_> fair enough
[09:06] <gaurav> is there a way to impport my kmail and akregator setters from kde-4.0.4 to kde 4.1 pim ?
[09:07] <gaurav> ah! my bad
[09:20] <ponkarthik> hi
[09:29] <janice8951> flaccid. I could sure use some help here again,.
[09:30] <flaccid_> sure
[09:30] <janice8951> nvrmind, going to do this one on me own
[09:30] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:30] <flaccid_> what is it lol
[09:30] <janice8951> I think at least. If I run into trouble I will give you a shout eh?
[09:30] <janice8951> Samba
[09:31] <flaccid_> janice8951, yah cool. just install the package then goto system settings and configure samba there. that is likely the easiest. samba is a beast to configure but hopefully that will simplify it for you
[09:31] <janice8951> already have it
[09:31] <janice8951> already had it actually.
[09:32] <flaccid_> coolio, is there a problem ?
[09:32] <janice8951> Yeap, I don't see it in System settings
[09:33] <flaccid_> janice8951, um should be there probably in advanced
[09:34] <flaccid_> janice8951, otherwise goto kcontrol and the kcm module should come up there as well
[09:34] <yeniklasor> I'm using kde 4. My taskmanager has gone. How can I fix it ?
[09:36] <yeniklasor> stdin
[09:36] <flaccid_> yeniklasor, #kubuntu-kde4 please
[09:36] <rollo> there is a taskmanager?
[09:36] <rollo> !kde4
[09:38] <mattia> lieto giorno
[09:39] <mattia> a chi posso chiedere per dei problemi di Kde ?
[09:39] <janice8951> is there a command to find out which Version of Kubuntu I am using?
[09:39] <bazhang> !it | mattia
[09:39] <ollor> !it
[09:48] <ollor> lsb_release -a janice8951
[09:48] <ollor> at least that is what google tells me :)
[09:55] <merike_> hello, anyone experiencing green screen flash when resuming from suspend?
[10:00] <Jabop> I'm trying to restart ssh, and when i do, it tells me that there are no host keys found. however, they *are* in the directories that it's looking in. what could I do to fix this?
[10:02] <ollor> Jabop: /etc/init.d/ssh restart ,,, restarts ssh
[10:02] <Jabop> Right, ollor. When I do that, I get...
[10:02] <Jabop> Could not load host key: /usr/local/etc/ssh_host_rsa_key
[10:02] <Jabop> Could not load host key: /usr/local/etc/ssh_host_dsa_key
[10:02] <Jabop> Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host key
[10:02] <Jabop> sshd: no hostkeys available -- exiting.
[10:03] <Jabop> There ARE in fact k eys in /usr/local/etc/whatever_key
[10:04] <lyhana8> hi, (i already try on #firefox channel without success) i'm looking for a way to rebuild my firefox addons list on firefox2 due to firefox3 incompatibility
[10:04] <ollor> sounds like bad permission Jabop
[10:04] <ollor> are you root
[10:04] <ollor> sudo
[10:05] <Jabop> I restart ssh using sudo,  yes
[10:05] <ollor> Jabop: can you ssh into another box?
[10:05] <Jabop> Yeah
[10:06] <Jabop> What perms should the files have?
[10:06] <Jabop> the keys, that is
[10:07] <ollor> Jabop: have a look here that might help http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=75900
[10:09] <Jabop> I had looked at that thread earlier, to no avail
[10:09] <ollor> let me check mine Jabop
[10:11] <Jabop> I can ssh into other boxes, I just can't ssh back into my box.
[10:12] <ollor> mine are in /etc/ssh/ Jabop
[10:15] <ollor> well that's new i can't use scp into my kubuntu box ... out no problem scp in doesn't work :)
[10:31] <seria-mau> hi
[10:32] <seria-mau> someone using the beta1 packages? i have a problem with strigi
[10:33] <seria-mau> it doesnt start (version 5.10...ppa?)
[10:33] <seria-mau> complaining about sopranobackend unknown
[10:38] <janice8951> Does anyone know how to setup a home network? I have a Kubuntu Dapper box that I want use as a server and two other Machines, I have a Belkin Wireless router
[10:39] <flaccid_> ollor_, did you install the openssh-server its not installed by default
[10:40] <flaccid_> janice8951, samba
[10:41] <ollor_> flaccid_: i have ... but i was not the one with the problem :) Jabop was
[10:42] <Jabop> ollor_ and flaccid: i went ahead and got the openssh source and recompiled/installed, I think it's working properly. Testing out a few things
[10:42] <lyhana8> hi, (i already try on #firefox channel without success) i'm looking for a way to rebuild my firefox addons list on firefox2 due to firefox3 incompatibility
[10:42] <flaccid_> weird your question said 'i'
[10:42] <flaccid_> lol why would you need to compile. its in the package openssh-server
[10:42] <Jabop> flaccid_, to enable hpn
[10:43] <flaccid_> lyhana8, can't really do it iirc
[10:43] <flaccid_> Jabop, ah cool as
[10:43] <seria-mau> or is this the false channel for kubuntu kde 4.1 beta1 packages?
[10:43] <ollor_> well i can't scp anything from this sidux box to kubuntu ... every other distro works ...
[10:43] <ollor_> well i can't scp anything from this sidux box to kubuntu ... every other distro works ... flaccid_
[10:44] <flaccid_> seria-mau, #kubuntu-kde4
[10:44] <flaccid_> ollor_, oh sorry. whats the error?
[10:45] <lyhana8> flaccid_: i already do it, but can't remember which file should be remove, i try extension.cache/rdf/ini and nothing change
[10:45] <ollor_> scp in kubuntu doesn't work flaccid_ ... out no problem in scp starts and leaves a 0kb file ... and than stops ... flaccid_
[10:46] <flaccid_> lyhana8, i don't know what you are talking about sorry
[10:46] <flaccid_> ollor_, scp direct from cli and pastebin the output please
[10:46] <janice8951> flaccid you keep saying that, and I have been at this nonstop[
[10:46] <janice8951> I can't get it configured
[10:47] <flaccid_> janice8951, explain why becaue im not a mind reader
[10:47] <janice8951> because I don't already have a workgroup
[10:47] <janice8951> I am trying to create one.
[10:47] <janice8951> None of the guides say how to do that.
[10:47] <flaccid_> janice8951, as i advised this is configured in the samba module in kcontrol or system settings
[10:47] <janice8951> In samba they all assume you already have a windows workgroup
[10:48] <janice8951> there is no samba module or kcontrol
[10:48] <flaccid_> um not in samba, you mean in the doco
[10:48] <flaccid_> janice8951, kde4 on hardy?
[10:48] <flaccid_> sorry kde3
[10:48] <janice8951> no, dapper
[10:48] <janice8951> and I don't know which kde
[10:48] <janice8951> I know it's old and crappy and there is very little anything
[10:49] <flaccid_> ok np, i will look it up. dapper is very old
[10:49] <janice8951> Thanks lol
[10:49] <flaccid_> give me a sec
[10:49] <janice8951> I guess I should have said that. I tried to a distro upgrade but it told me there weren't any new versions.
[10:50] <flaccid_> janice8951, yeah because you didn't change the sources. let me just get some dinner and i'll show you what to do on dapper ok?
[10:50] <flaccid_> be back in 5mins
[10:50] <ollor_> flaccid_: sorry dist-upgraded the kubuntu box this morning now it works ... :)
[10:51] <janice8951> Yeah I'm gonna get some as well.
[10:51] <janice8951> Maybe a Steak ;) ;)
[10:55] <KR-data> where do I change what disk grub will use as default when generating a new grub.conf?
[10:58] <ollor_> !grub
[10:58] <Paco_Paco> Hello, i have a question how can i change the look and theme of gtk applications under kubuntu ? I get an ugly greyish default theme now....
[10:58] <flaccid_> KR-data, it does on the primary boot disk. ie. the mbr on that...
[10:58] <flaccid_> afaik
[10:59] <janice8951> I tell ya my finger really hurts
[10:59] <janice8951> I wish i had some prawns
[10:59] <janice8951> Alls I have is chicken :(
[10:59] <KR-data> flaccid, what I mean is to tell it my Linux is on (hd0,0) and not (hd1,0)
[10:59] <flaccid_> Paco_Paco, install gtk-qt-engine  and that will put a gtk fonts thing in your appearance in system settings
[11:00] <flaccid_> KR-data, /boot/grub/menu.list as per the above links...
[11:00] <Paco_Paco> also the themes flaccid?
[11:00] <KR-data> I don't know why the installer detects disks that's deactivated in the bios
[11:00] <KR-data> flaccid_, it's easy to change that one, but next time I upgrade grub via aptitude the config will be resete
[11:01] <KR-data> *reset
[11:01] <flaccid_> Paco_Paco, um yeah styles and fonts
[11:02] <Paco_Paco> under system>appearences flaccid?
[11:02] <flaccid_> KR-data, thats normal and should be fine. you telling me update-grub changes it to an invalid location?
[11:02] <flaccid_> Paco_Paco, ah yep then gtk styles and fonts
[11:02] <KR-data> flaccid_, basically yes
[11:02] <flaccid_> hmm that kind of sounds like a bug
[11:03] <flaccid_> so you are editing the right menu.list but update-grub puts an incorrect location in on update?
[11:03] <KR-data> it does, yes, I believe it must have a config file somewhere, where I can change the default location?
[11:04] <flaccid_> err default location of what exactly?
[11:04] <flaccid_> janice8951, be with you in a second
[11:05] <KR-data> my Linux partition, when aptitude is run it'll set it to (hd1,0), though the disk that originally was detected as hd0 isn't even in the computer anymore, but when I installed kubuntu it was only disabled in the bios and the installer somehow detected it anyway
[11:06] <flaccid_> KR-data, um well grub doesn't use linux logical device names, it uses BIOS names
[11:06] <flaccid_> ie. bios order
[11:06] <flaccid_> KR-data, i still don't fully understand but they are the facts
[11:07] <KR-data> when I ran the grub command it couldn't detect the disk either, so to my logic it must be the installer that detects the disk
[11:07] <flaccid_> what grub command and what was the error?
[11:07] <flaccid_> guessing is anti-productive :)
[11:08] <KR-data> type grub in the terminal :)
[11:08] <flaccid_> grub console
[11:08] <ollor_> KR-data: paste us the /boot/grub/menu.lst because i still don't get what the problem is
[11:09] <flaccid_> KR-data, what are you running in grub console to conclude 'it doesn't detect'?
[11:09] <KR-data> the disk isn't physically in my computer anymore, but when it was the grub console couldn't see the disk, but the program seemed to generate a menu.lst where the disk was present
[11:09] <flaccid_> KR-data, i'd say thats because update-grub probably respects unknown entries
[11:10] <flaccid_> are you telling me KR-data if you remove this grub entry from menu.list to a non-existant disk, the next update-grub will put it back there?
[11:10] <KR-data> but how can it do that, when the disk isn't present?
[11:11] <flaccid_> i take that as a yes
[11:11] <ollor_> is the entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst # groot=(hd0,?) set right
[11:11] <KR-data> I change it to use (hd0,0) in stead of (hd1,0) and it works, but I want it to use (hd0,0) as default and not as it generates
[11:11] <KR-data> I'll take a look
[11:11] <flaccid_> KR-data, im not sure the algorithm for the update script, but i would suggest submitting a bug report
[11:12] <flaccid_> oh then its not a bug kr-data
[11:12] <KR-data> groot is commented
[11:13] <flaccid_> KR-data, you can uncomment and change the groot device...
[11:13] <KR-data> but I can't see how it detected a disk that's deactivated from the bios or why it should save the presence of the disk even when it's removed
[11:13] <flaccid_> but from memory that just changes where it looks for the userland files. you can't change bios order...
[11:13] <flaccid_> disk 0 is disk 0 and disk 1 is disk 1
[11:14] <janice8951> brb
[11:14] <flaccid_> KR-data, if you are confident its a bug, then submit one! im still confused on some things here sorry
[11:14] <ollor_> i recall that in grub # doesn't mean commented ## does ... but i might be wrong
[11:14] <KR-data> indeed, and grub can use it correctly, but it seems the script that generates the menu.lst want another disk before my drives
[11:15] <flaccid_>  if update-grub generates any invalid entries, then i'd say thats a bug..
[11:15] <KR-data> ollor_, hmm, strange, but if it's correct then it isn't commented
[11:15] <KR-data> where should I submit the bug?
[11:15] <flaccid_> !bugs | KR-data
[11:16] <KR-data> thanks
[11:16] <flaccid_> anyone know if dapper has a samba configuration GUI of any sorts in its repos or out of box ?
[11:16] <usamahashimi> whenever i start firefox 3 (beta), it starts in offline-mode, how can i disable this offline-mode?
[11:16] <flaccid_> np.. i mean i've seen this before im pretty sure. i've had the case where it got it wrong and of course on next boot i had to change the entry by one digit... is this like what it is?
[11:17] <flaccid_> usamahashimi, try #firefox
[11:17] <ollor_> flaccid_: you have a question *Idon'tBeliveIt* and i have no answer :)
[11:18] <usamahashimi> flaccid_: i asked there but the channel is dead
[11:18] <flaccid_> haha but the question was for KR-data  :p
[11:18] <ollor_> lol
[11:19] <flaccid_> usamahashimi, how about google perhaps?
[11:20] <flaccid_> Jucato, you alive mate? need to find out if dapper has a samba gui frontend? it kind of seems like not, but thats hard to believe considering lts hmm
[11:20] <minhaaj> flaccid_:  how did you become so smart ?
[11:20] <minhaaj> :)
[11:21] <flaccid_> um i woudln't say im smart, can be a huge noob. spending too many hours on a computer doesn't make you smart :)
[11:21] <janice8951> Gosh I could go a couple icy poles right now
[11:21] <minhaaj> hehe i spent toooooo many hours on computer, the bad thing is that i used windows
[11:22] <flaccid_> minhaaj, i did the same ...
[11:22] <minhaaj> you were smarter,  moved onto it ages before i did.
[11:22] <ollor_> minhaaj: it might be in about:config
[11:23] <flaccid_> minhaaj, it wasn't that long ago really
[11:23] <janice8951> Thats mad ent it? I am A+ certified computer tech in the states, but can't configure my linux netowrk
[11:23] <flaccid_> janice8951, okdy doky
[11:23] <janice8951> network*
[11:23] <flaccid_> thats pretty normal janice8951
[11:23] <flaccid_> !info kdenetwork-filesharing dapper | janice8951
[11:24] <minhaaj> linux is awesome
[11:24] <ollor_> minhaaj: check for network.online
[11:24] <flaccid_> hooray i found it..
[11:24] <minhaaj> it has whetted my appetite to delve into it
[11:24] <minhaaj> ollor_:  i didnt ask any question :)
[11:24] <flaccid_> janice8951, install that big boy and hopefully you will get samba admin
[11:24] <janice8951> I know minhaaj, been running it for 5 years
[11:24] <ollor_> ups
[11:25] <flaccid_> janice8951, after thats installed a snap in should appear in kcontrol
[11:25] <minhaaj> awesome.
[11:25] <ollor_> usamahashimi: network.online in  about:config
[11:25] <janice8951> yeah, what am I installing?
[11:25] <janice8951> lol
[11:25] <minhaaj> i have been after it for 2 years but just switched to it week ago
[11:25] <minhaaj> and i am already in love.
[11:25] <flaccid_> janice8951, see the ubottu msg about
[11:25] <minhaaj> nobody uses linux in my place
[11:25] <flaccid_> above
[11:26] <flaccid_> well im a freebsd user by choice, not linux
[11:26] <minhaaj> so nobody could teach,  i had to find my own way into it
[11:26] <janice8951> Have to wait. I am installing gnome
[11:27] <flaccid_> cool janice8951 well thats all you have to do. then you can configure the workgroup, shares and whatever
[11:27] <janice8951> cool
[11:27] <janice8951> thanks
[11:27] <minhaaj> linux is cooler than freebsd
[11:27] <minhaaj> more support and friendly GUI
[11:27] <flaccid_> i taught my IT teacher in high school but i mean windows != computing
[11:27] <janice8951> Your a life saver. Now I can save all me porn
[11:27] <minhaaj> heh
[11:27] <janice8951> Just kidding
[11:27] <flaccid_> minhaaj, linux is just a kernel not a gui
[11:28] <minhaaj> i mean linux's GUI
[11:28] <minhaaj> kde, gnome
[11:28] <flaccid_> and um beastie is way cooler than tux anyway
[11:28] <SlimeyPete> erm, bsd has kde and gnome too
[11:28] <neo_> i think freebsd have kde
[11:28] <flaccid_> just an fyi linux is slower :)
[11:28]  * minhaaj blinks
[11:28] <flaccid_> kde runs hell of a lot faster haha
[11:28] <minhaaj> let me install freebsd too
[11:28] <flaccid_> minhaaj, linux doesn't have a gui, its a kernel.
[11:28] <SlimeyPete> even Solaris has Gnome
[11:29] <flaccid_> minhaaj, try pc-bsd then
[11:29] <minhaaj> i know flaccid_ :)
[11:29] <minhaaj> kde rocks.
[11:29] <flaccid_> you know now yes
[11:29] <minhaaj> i DID know.
[11:29] <minhaaj> you didnt get the point.
[11:29] <minhaaj> i was talking about more user friendly GUI in ubuntu
[11:29] <flaccid_> err i dont think so
[11:29] <flaccid_> what was the point sorry?
[11:29] <minhaaj> certainly best for windows refugees
[11:30] <flaccid_> wtf you didn't mention ubuntu. move on
[11:30] <minhaaj> dont expect windows users to prefer freebsd over ubuntu
[11:30] <minhaaj> sorry if i didnt
[11:31] <flaccid_> minhaaj, why would i expect that? this is getting ridiculous...
[11:31] <minhaaj> ahh nvm
[11:31] <flaccid_> and besides if kde is running on both they will have no idea what OS its running :)
[11:31] <minhaaj> right.
[11:32] <flaccid_> anyway i end up going off topic myself. lets try to keep it to kubuntu support
[11:32] <minhaaj> :)
[11:32] <ougs> hello
[11:33] <ougs> I am having some problems with the live CD-kde4. Is anyone willing to give me a hand?
[11:34] <ollor> !ask | ougs
[11:34] <ougs> roger that
[11:35] <ougs> problem: kde hangs or blacks out as soon as I start to interact with kde4 (booted from live CD).
[11:36] <Ayabara> I want to keep all my digikam settings, but build my database (with import of tags and stuff) all over. do I just delete the digikam3.db? (the people in #digikam seem to be all asleep :) )
[11:36] <ollor> can you still ctrl+alt+F1 and change to cli ougs
[11:37] <ougs> will try that but i dont thinkso. I DO know that I cannot kill X with  ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:38] <ollor> !kde4 |ougs
[11:38] <flaccid_> ouch. ougs is this for desktop use or to install from livecd ?
[11:39] <ougs> this i running the desktop directly from the liveCD. I'm testing it before installing it. My laptop has 512MB, and it feels like it would appreciate some more... :)
[11:40] <ougs> so where can I find a liveCDimage with 4.0.4 on?
[11:40] <Jimmy1> Can anyone help to install dos 6.22 on virtualbox      ?
[11:41] <ollor> did you check the md5 befor burning ougs
[11:41] <flaccid_> ougs, not sure the problem. but you could try the alternate cd for installation
[11:42] <flaccid_> ougs, don't think it exists
[11:42] <ougs> nope. no check of md5. i will check the iso right away.
[11:42] <flaccid_> ougs, if you do want help with kde4, gogo #kubuntu-kde4
[11:43] <ougs> flaccid, thanks for the tip, but right now i'm trying to test it before installing it before installing
[11:43] <ollor> you should allways check ... saves a lot of trouble after ougs
[11:43] <ougs> i'll check md5 and go to #...-kde4. thanx guys!
[11:43] <ougs> !leave
[11:44] <flaccid_> ougs, i understand that. these problems are usually because the livecd needs to a pretty generic X config etc. to accompany everyone. the experience on the cd doesn't mean its the same for install..
[11:45] <ougs> i'm sure you're right flaccid. i just want to get a taste of kde4 to see if it's worth it, but i guess i kould find packages for 07.04 which i have installed at the moment
[11:46]  * ollor *wispers* to flaccid_ where did the /etc/X11/xorg.conf driver section go in kubuntu
[11:46] <flaccid_> ollor_ no long required in xorg 7
[11:47] <Jimmy1> Can anyone help to install dos 6.22 on virtualbox      ?
[11:47] <flaccid_> ougs, yeah um if you don't have hardy then not much chance to try. still you can run both kde4 and kde4 on the same install
[11:47] <ollor> so where would i change lets say nvidia to nv or vesa flaccid_
[11:47] <flaccid_> Jimmy1, if nobody answered then i'd so not likely
[11:48] <ougs> (kubuntu 0704
[11:48] <flaccid_> ollor_, xorg.conf as usual or via frontend gui like hardware drivers manager
[11:48] <flaccid_> it just means that xorg 7 can do some auto detect so a driver directive is not required
[11:49] <ollor> well that will not be helpfull if x crashes :) (gui)
[11:49] <flaccid_> what do you mean. it won't use the wrong driver..
[11:52] <ougs> #leave
[11:52] <stdin> ougs: to leave the channel it's '/part'
[11:53] <Jucato> flaccid_: sorry "mate". I was afk. and I don't know the answer to your question.
[11:54] <flaccid_> Jucato, thanks for getting back. i ended up finding it: kdenetwork-filesharing pkg, for kcontrol
[11:54] <flaccid_> ksambaplugin has had so many names..
[11:55] <araizen> hi everyone
[11:56] <araizen> i'm using kubuntu hardy with kde 4 and when i set konq to use space instead of colon for web shortcuts, it doesn't change the setting
[11:56] <araizen> does anyone know what the problem is?
[11:56] <araizen> oh sorry
[11:58] <slashammett> bonjour, je viens juste d'installer kubuntu sur mon pc, il me s'ignale qu'il y a 77 mise ajour de paquets a faire mais je n'arrive pa a les lancé. c'est normale?
[11:59] <flaccid_> !fr | slashammett
[12:02] <serguma> hello
[12:03] <chanorero> hi
[12:03] <serguma> anybody there willing to help me with a problem I have :)?
[12:04] <chanorero> i'm new in linux
[12:04] <serguma> heheh, I'm quite new too, just know the basics
[12:04] <chanorero> but, what's your problem?
[12:05] <serguma> some broken packages
[12:05] <emilsedgh> !ask | serguma
[12:07] <serguma> when trying to uninstall python-qt4 I'm told that  apport-qt jockey-kde language-selector-qt software-properties-kde system-config-printer-kde are broken, and I think perhaps that's why I can't use some apps that need python-qt4 to be installed, how can I fix these packages (reinstalling didn't work)?
[12:11] <KhuNNi> what are bot
[12:18] <flaccid_> serguma, this might help http://www.linux.com/articles/48910
[12:18] <ougs> are thearound?re any kde4 packages for feisty
[12:19] <ougs> (i meant:) are there any kde4 packages for feisty around?
[12:19] <flaccid_> no.
[12:19] <ougs> :p
[12:19] <flaccid_> (as i said before)
[12:20] <serguma> let's see
[12:20] <ougs> don't really have a spare partition
[12:20] <stdin> why do you need another partition?
[12:21] <ougs> oh, to install 8.04 with kde4 on for testing. It's the only way i can test kde4, since the liveCD doesn't work for me
[12:21] <stdin> why not just upgrade
[12:22] <ougs> i want to test it before doing somthing irreversible
[12:23] <stdin> use a virtual machine or maybe a chroot
[12:24] <flaccid_> like i was saying before. kde3 and kde4 can co-exists fine on same install :)
[12:24] <pim> ougs you could also wait for wine 4.1 to come out, it probably will this week.
[12:24] <pim> Hm maybe flaccid_ 's advice is better
[12:24] <Jucato> pim: this week?
[12:24] <stdin> pim: beta 1 packages are in the PPA :)
[12:24] <ougs> virtual machine is a good idea. any suggestions? (i'm running feisty on a laptop without cpu flags for virtualization)
[12:25] <pim> Jucato it is expected in june.
[12:25] <Jucato> (unless this week is "the end of July), 4.1 won't be coming out this week)
[12:25] <flaccid_> wine 4.1? that would be used for what sorry?
[12:25] <stdin> ougs: any should do, vmware (workstation/player) or virtual-box are good ones
[12:25] <Jucato> pim: never was. the schedule was for July. 6 months after 4.0
[12:26] <pim> sorry I was reading about wine and talking about KDE, I meant KDE
[12:26] <Jucato> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Release_Schedule
[12:26] <ougs> oh i see wharyou mean flaccid. of course. good idea. thanks
[12:26] <pim> Jucato ok I messed up the 2 months :P
[12:26] <mathias__> kde 4 rocks!!!
[12:26] <flaccid_> cool
[12:28] <tux4life> can you ask questions about linux inside this irc?
[12:28] <dr_Willis> tux4life,  sure why not.. :) we are Kubuntu focused in this channel.. but general linux is ok. :)
[12:29] <dr_Willis> we can always point you to a better channel, or web site for more specific info
[12:29] <tux4life> thank you
[12:29] <tux4life> srry, but I got to go now
[12:30] <SSJ_GZ> That was strange.
[12:30] <d_mitry> i have two questions. would ntfsundelete work under wine? i'd like to recover a few deleted files. if it will, then what to do if i get `device is busy' when trying to unmount my ntfs partition?
[12:30] <dr_Willis> device busy = some task/process is still accessing the mounted volume.,
[12:30] <Jucato> d_mitry: try asking in #winehq about the first question
[12:30] <dr_Willis> and i thought there were ntfsundelete tools native to linux.
[12:31] <flaccid_> you can lazy unmount with umount -l if you really need and can't clear the lock
[12:31] <d_mitry> Jucato: thank you. :)
[12:35] <d_mitry> dr_Willis: yeah, i figured that. used fuser, but that returned nothing.
[12:35] <d_mitry> i'll try again.
[12:35] <d_mitry> uhh... sorry. i had music playing and the music is on the ntfs partition. silly me.
[12:37] <dr_Willis> :)
[12:37] <dr_Willis> I often just logout - to force everything to release :)
[12:38] <flaccid_> d_mitry, if it can come up in fuser you might need to feed fuser the right switches
[12:39] <d_mitry> flaccid_: never mind.
[12:41] <flaccid_> d_mitry, no worries mate. lots on google about it if you decide to revisit
[12:41] <Jimmy1> hey just trying to fix a problem... i need to find "users and groups" where can i find it ?
[12:42] <flaccid_> Jimmy1, system settings?
[12:42] <Jimmy1> thats what i thought but there is no "settings"
[12:43] <d_mitry> flaccid_: thanks. :)
[12:43] <flaccid_> np
[12:43] <flaccid_> d_mitry, hey i think its as simple as fuser -u /dev/sdaX
[12:44] <flaccid_> and substitue the sdaX for your actual fs device
[12:45] <Jimmy1> am i missing something here
[12:45] <Jimmy1> why does it not apear for me ?
[12:45] <lenka> XlenkaH
[12:47] <flaccid_> Jimmy1, maybe im wrong? sorry i can't check im on windows somewhere else atm
[12:48] <Jimmy1> i have "adept, dolphin, Hp manager, Virtual box , bluetooth, Kcron, keep, kinfocenter, konsol, ksysguard, Ksystem log and Kubuntu service data. "
[12:49] <Jimmy1> thanks for trying flaccid
[12:49] <flaccid_> Jimmy1, did you look in advanced tab as well hmm
[12:50] <dr_Willis> Searching menus = one reason  people in IRC chat.. LOVE the command line. :)
[12:50] <Jimmy1> mabie its not installed ?
[12:50] <Jimmy1> yeh i been looking everywhere
[12:50] <Jimmy1> just seems strange that its not there
[12:50] <flaccid_> Jimmy1, this is kde3 right? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuSystemSettingsUsability
[12:51] <Jimmy1> Kde yeh but i dont know about 3   ?
[12:52] <flaccid_> Jimmy1, its not in KDE4 yet iirc.
[12:52]  * Jimmy1 shrugs
[12:52] <Jimmy1> aahh i got ya
[12:52] <Jimmy1> hang let me try something
[12:53] <flaccid_> Jimmy1, in konsole what does systemsettings --version say?
[12:56] <Jimmy1> Qt: 3.3.7
[12:56] <Jimmy1> KDE: 3.5.8
[12:56] <Jimmy1> System Settings: 0.2
[13:00] <flaccid_> stdin, hey um why can't Jimmy1 see a user management or users and groups icon in his system settings?
[13:01] <flaccid_> Jimmy1, what kubuntu release is this?
[13:01] <alain_> bjr
[13:03] <haryono> any one can help?
[13:03] <Jimmy1> 7.10
[13:04] <haryono> help me pls
[13:04] <stdin> Jimmy1: have you looked in system settings?
[13:04] <stdin> KMenu -> System Settings
[13:04] <flaccid_> haryono, just ask y0
[13:04] <stdin> (not the 'System' or 'Settings' menus)
[13:05] <Jimmy1> Thats why
[13:05] <Jimmy1> ....
[13:05]  * Jimmy1 hangs his head in shame
[13:05] <haryono> how to shrink panel at botom of my windows screen its cause my windows shrinked/ narrowed
[13:05] <Jimmy1> thanks guys
[13:05] <haryono> flacid
[13:06] <stdin> right-click it -> configure panel ? there should be a size option in there
[13:06] <haryono> stdin i have saw system seting
[13:08] <haryono> istdin i saw configure panel
[13:09] <haryono> stdin then next?
[13:09] <flaccid_> ok im having some afk
[13:09] <flaccid_> cyas
[13:10] <haryono> i klik configure panel.no response
[13:10] <haryono> what next
[13:11] <haryono> stdin?
[13:15] <psyco> Anyone own a creative ZEN?
[13:22] <psyco> What is a good video conversion program???
[13:23] <Rozza> in kubuntu, is there a thing in system etc to add users, or do you have to use terminal, and if not how do i add admin permissions too
[13:23] <psyco> Use the system settings>
[13:23] <psyco> > user management
[13:23] <Rozza> there is no user managment?
[13:23] <Dekans> psyco: look at avidemux
[13:24] <psyco> Dekans: ok, ty.
[13:26] <psyco> What version of kubuntu Rozza?
[13:26] <Rozza> 8.04
[13:26] <psyco> KDE 3 or 4?
[13:26] <Rozza> um
[13:26] <Rozza> i think im upgrading to 3 atm...
[13:26] <Rozza> down/up
[13:26] <psyco> what colour is your task bar?
[13:26] <Rozza> silver
[13:26] <psyco> Ok thats 3
[13:27] <Rozza> K
[13:27] <psyco> so Kmenu> System settings > user management   Doesn't exist?!
[13:27] <drurew> hey fellow kde peeps ....great to see you ...:D how can i set my swap partition to swapon at boot up ?
[13:27] <drurew> its off for some reason
[13:27] <Rozza> um
[13:27] <Rozza> system and settings are 2 different menus..
[13:28] <psyco> No System settings its about 5th up, from the botton
[13:28] <Rozza> Oh
[13:28] <psyco> :P
[13:28] <drurew> right now im mounting it per gparted .....but its a pain since yeah id like to use more swap then ram if possible
[13:29] <drurew> !swapon
[13:29] <drurew> !swap
[13:35] <GerrySly> hey, I was wondering what's the deal with my mythtv setup, I have ran through the mythtv-backend setup and now when I go to the frontend it won't let me click the Watch TV button, it just flickers when I click it
[13:38] <stdin> GerrySly: you may get more response in #ubuntu-mythtv (or possibly less)
[13:46] <ttocszed> any1 alive in here?
[13:47] <engineer> nop
[13:47] <engineer> all dead
[13:48] <SSJ_GZ> It's a massacre :(
[13:48] <drurew> whassss up
[13:49] <ttocszed> ok i have a slight problem i have an old labtop that crashed during service pack 3 install so i browsed the internet for a small os that us good for this old labtop. and i try to install kubuntu to it but it doesnt detect my hd and i cant make a new partition nor can i reformat it.
[13:49] <Rozza`Away> [AmSg]I'm now away:bed .-.. Logging:ON Script:ON, I left at 22:49:40, On 08/06/2008
[13:50] <drurew> ttocszed: you may want to try xubuntu
[13:50] <drurew> its a super minimal system
[13:50] <drurew> very light yet has the same functionality as kbuntu
[13:51] <drurew> as for your hard drives....i dunno what may be the problem other then how do your bios setting s look ?
[13:52] <ttocszed> hmm
[13:52] <ttocszed> its not deteching it in bios
[13:52] <ttocszed> weird
[13:53] <ttocszed> its an old pentium 3 labtop
[13:53] <drurew> you may want to try turning the hard drive itself "off" in bios .....
[13:53] <drurew> alll other boot mediums ....just leave the cdrom on
[13:54] <RurouniJones> Wait, the BIOS isn't detecting the harddisk?
[13:54] <ttocszed> yep :(
[13:54] <engineer> dead Hard driv
[13:54] <RurouniJones> Can you hear it spin up when you turn the laptop on?
[13:54] <ttocszed> Internal Hard Disk = 0 GB
[13:54] <Hyper> Hi, can someone please help me get my wifi to work?
[13:54] <RurouniJones> Like engineer said, might be a dead HD
[13:54] <ttocszed> dman the xp
[13:54] <RurouniJones> might not have been XP.
[13:55] <RurouniJones> Just an old HDD that died while being used. That is life.
[13:55] <ttocszed> labtop crashing in the middle of installing sp3
[13:55] <ttocszed> :(
[13:56] <Hyper> Can someone please help me get my wifi to work?  It shows Access Point: Not-Associated in iwconfig
[13:57] <drurew> Hyper: can you see a "card" detected?
[13:57] <Hyper> where
[13:58] <drurew> Hyper: there where it says that theres no acess point
[13:58] <Hyper> no, it does not say anything like that
[13:59] <Hyper> it shows up in lspci
[13:59] <psyco> Anyone got iriverter to work??
[14:00] <drurew> Hyper: have you used it before? do you have drivers and "stuff" installed?
[14:01] <Hyper> drurew, I am not sure if I need them installed.  This is the first time I attempted to install a GNU/Linux distribution on here
[14:02] <Hyper> 02:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless Lan Controller (rev 03)
[14:02] <dr_Willis> !wine
[14:03] <drurew> Hyper: please google "madwifi" and see if you can follow taht ;)
[14:03] <drurew> *that
[14:03] <drurew> *dru is looking for a desktop radio widget
[14:04] <Hyper> drurew, so what do I do with that
[14:05] <drurew> Hyper: are you familiar with the terminal ?
[14:05] <Hyper> yes
[14:05] <drurew> i will paste big something real simple for you to run in it
[14:05] <andzia> hi all
[14:05] <andzia> guys, I have an ntfs partition (sda1, primary) and an ext3 partition (sdb, primary) - and swap (sda3, primary, too). now, I want to re-format the ntfs (sda1) as ext3, to create a new ext3 partition (windoze going buh-bye ;) ); can I do it from within running Kubuntu (providing I will un-mount the ntfs partition first), or do I need to do it from under some LiveCD?
[14:05] <drurew> *PASTEBIN
[14:05] <andzia> argh, the ext3 is sda2, not sdb
[14:05] <Hyper> ?
[14:06] <drurew>  one sec Hyper
[14:09] <R2LM> If I interrupt the Adept Updater while it is in the middle of downloading a bunch of files (and some of them are completed downloads), will it pick up where it left off the next time I run it, or will it download the same packages again?
[14:10] <drurew> Hyper: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18379/
[14:11] <Hyper> I am disconnected, I will have to connect via Ethernet
[14:11] <Hyper> hold on
[14:13] <Rozza`Away> I installed KDE4 in terminal, it finished, How do i use it
[14:14] <nosrednaekim> Rozza`Away: log out select KDE4 as the session and log back in
[14:14] <nosrednaekim> R2LM: it should pick up form where it left
[14:15] <nosrednaekim> depends on how long before you resume
[14:15] <nosrednaekim> (even a week is fine though)
[14:17] <Hyper> drurew, it is compiling
[14:17] <drurew> *dru is looking for a desktop radio widget
[14:19] <Hyper> drurew, I am getting a lot of undeclared messages after issuing the make command
[14:20] <R2LM> nosrednaekim: Thanks, I guess it's picking up where it left off, I just can't tell because I'm doing the Gutsy to Hardy upgrade and there's hundreds of packages to download.
[14:20] <nosrednaekim> :)
[14:21] <Rozza> ty for helping me
[14:21] <Rozza> xD
[14:26] <lyhana8> hi, i'm meeting issue with my wireless card
[14:26] <lyhana8> when i try : `sudo ifconfig eth1 up`, i got `SIOCSIFFLAGS: Erreur d'entrée/sortie` (I/O error)
[14:28] <drurew> Hyper : umm what errors are you getting?
[14:29] <FoxySigma> Could anyone link me to a manual on installing themes?
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> !theme
[14:29] <nosrednaekim> !changethemes
[14:30] <lyhana8> !wifi
[14:30] <drurew> kde look site is down
[14:30] <FoxySigma> Alright, thanks.
[14:31] <drurew> or is it just me =?
[14:31] <drurew> :D
[14:32] <nosrednaekim> lyhana8: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/VALinux-kb/siocsifflags-error.html
[14:34] <drurew> is kde-look.org really down ?
[14:36] <lyhana8> nosrednaekim: that's not the good error message, thx anyway
[14:47] <lyhana8> how can i enable a wireless device using console ?
[14:52] <lyhana8> helloo~~ ?
[14:58] <sito> hi all!!
[15:04] <msnbot> hello, in the terminal of kate, is there any command that will make open a file for me in the current kate session??
[15:04] <farhad_hf> hey
[15:05] <farhad_hf> what is the command of restricted drivers on kubuntu hardy? i dont have the icon
[15:06] <msnbot> found it. just $ kate /path/to/filename :)
[15:07] <emilsedgh> farhad_hf: System Settings->Advanced
[15:07] <farhad_hf> nvidia-setting says that i am not using the nvidia driver, but i am using compiz without any problems and the nvidia logo cames up when kdm is starting.
[15:07] <farhad_hf> emilsedgh: it is not in there too
[15:08] <farhad_hf> and the glxinfo says : Directrenderin : NO
[15:09] <farhad_hf> direct rendering : NO
[15:12] <emilsedgh> farhad_hf: i have no idea :)
[15:14] <sigma_> How do i mount a .bin iso file? it has a corresponding .cue file
[15:15] <sigma_> !iso
[15:23] <beatbreaker> f
[15:23] <WaltzingAlong> g
[15:36] <axel> Hello! I'm looking for a software to quickliy draw appealing diagrams (similar to class diagrams) with. Does anybody know such software?
[15:36] <lyhana8> hi, when i do `$ sudo ifup eth1`, i got :
[15:36] <lyhana8> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[15:36] <lyhana8> anyone can help me
[15:36] <WaltzingAlong> umbrello
[15:37] <stdin> lyhana8: knetworkmanager handles the network interfaces, try using that
[15:38] <drurew> !qt
[15:38] <lyhana8> i can't get it working
[15:38]  * flaccid_ will bbs/l
[15:38] <airmy> 没人啊
[15:38] <axel> WaltzingAlong: I tried it but it does not really fit. (I need a special link between two "boxes".) Do you have any other suggestions.
[15:39] <stdin> lyhana8: KMenu -> System Settings -> Network Settings ?
[15:39] <farhad_hf>  i have problems watching movies on Kubuntu Hardy, most the times a line crosses the screen and the movie is splited into two!! also tried loggin in using a different User, in vain !! the same happen on vlc, mplayer ... as i've tested them all .
[15:39] <stdin> !cn | airmy
[15:39] <airmy> sorry
[15:40] <WaltzingAlong> axel: do you know of existing software that dose somethingsimilar to what you would like?
[15:41] <lyhana8> stdin: i'm wordking through a ssh connection
[15:41] <WaltzingAlong> lyhana8: with x forwarding?
[15:42] <stdin> you can use X11 forwarding, or just edit /etc/network/interfaces by hand
[15:42] <axel> WaltzingAlong: umbrello would be such a software but with umbrello I can't draw lines like -----|>------ ("empty" arrow in the middle of the line)
[15:42] <Rioting_pacifist> hey i had to kill a game when it crashed and its left my desktop at a higher res than my screen, is there a command i can use to sort this out
[15:43] <lyhana8> WaltzingAlong: what do you mean ?
[15:43] <stdin> Rioting_pacifist: try switching to a tty and back, so Ctrl-Alt-F2, then Alt-F7
[15:43] <WaltzingAlong> lyhana8: well if you had x11 forwarding, you could launch the graphical app through the connection, seeing the window in your current xserver    systemsettings &
[15:44] <WaltzingAlong> lyhana8: or as suggested by stdin just edit /etc/network/interfaces by hand
[15:44] <lyhana8> how can i do that ? I try to launch apps but get an error
[15:44] <stdin> lyhana8: "ssy -Y user@server" should enable X forwarding
[15:44] <lyhana8> thx
[15:46] <Rioting_pacifist> stdin: didnt work :(
[15:47] <Rioting_pacifist> ill just go the GUI way and hope i remember to not exit the game while fullscreen again
[15:47] <stdin> Rioting_pacifist: logging out and back in should solve it if that fails
[15:48] <stdin> !nickspam > any1234
[15:48] <Rioting_pacifist> thx
[15:48] <mrksbrd> having a brain fart.....what is the program called to run windows inf files for wifi cards?
[15:48] <stdin> ndiswrapper
[15:49] <mrksbrd> ty
[15:49] <mrksbrd> stdin....btw good job on the latest release
[15:50] <stdin> :)
[15:50] <drurew> waht are the dependancys for the qt tool kit ?
[15:50] <drurew> apt-get isntall qt-toolkit?
[15:51] <nainef> what is dbus-launch?
[15:51] <lyhana8> stdin, WaltzingAlong : i manage to work accross X11, launch kcontrol > Network setting, when i try to log in sudo i'm kick back to default screen
[15:51] <mrksbrd> also i'm tryingout 64bit version is it backwards compatable to run 32 bit apps?
[15:51] <stdin> lyhana8: try running "kdesu systemsettings" or "kdesu kcontrol" to start it as root
[15:52] <stdin> mrksbrd: with the 32bit computability libs, yes
[15:52] <mrksbrd> what do i have to do to install them?
[15:52] <stdin> nainef: dbus-launch (1)      - Utility to start a message bus from a shell script
[15:52] <axel> WaltzingAlong: As far as I know Visio could do that. But my working-os is Linux and I don't want to torture neither me nor an 8-year-old mashine with Windows and Visio. ;)
[15:53] <nainef> should it exists on the machine?
[15:53] <drurew> *dru will be back later when the whizzez are online :D
[15:53] <nainef> because everything I run says it cannot run it
[15:53] <nainef> and I cannot find it using locate
[15:55] <stdin> mrksbrd: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk lib32asound2 linux32 (taken from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMD64/FirefoxAndPlugins)
[15:55] <stdin> !find dbus-launch
[15:56] <stdin> nainef: install dbus-x11
[15:56] <nainef> ok thank you!
[15:56] <mrksbrd> ty stdin
[15:57] <nainef> that werked! woot!
[15:59] <Rambytes> Hi everybody!
[15:59] <Colonel_Panic> While trying to install software, I'm gettng this:
[15:59] <Colonel_Panic> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:00] <mrksbrd> stdin....says "ia32-libs-gtk"  & "lib32asound2 linux32" has no installation candidates
[16:00] <stdin> !aptfix | Colonel_Panic
[16:01] <Rambytes> I need some help.... i'm a newbie and I don't know why but I cannot update the list of software in adept... (sorry, my english is not very good)
[16:01] <mrksbrd> ia32-libs did install does that one include everything?
[16:02] <stdin> mrksbrd: I think so, i'm not on 64bit so can't really check
[16:02] <mrksbrd> ok....ty
[16:02] <stdin> lib32asound2 should exist though
[16:03] <fran> hola
[16:03] <stdin> !es
[16:04] <tristan_> Before starting... anybody else getting messaged with spam by R_I_C_K_I_E?
[16:04] <ataxic> R_I_C_K_I_E  has a lame onjoin prvt msg
[16:05] <Daisuke_Laptop> apparently only for non-registered nicks...
[16:05] <ataxic> i'm registered
[16:05] <Rambytes> I need some help.... i'm a newbie and I don't know why but I cannot update the list of software in adept in Kubuntu... (sorry, my english is not very good)
[16:06] <ataxic> i mean my nick is with chanserv
[16:06] <tristan_> Rambytes: Try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:07] <Rambytes> tristan_: Ok... and after? (nothing append)
[16:07] <tristan_> What error do you get?
[16:07] <tristan_> Run sudo apt-get update
[16:08] <Rambytes> tristan_: No error.... only nothing! I've type my password and nothing append
[16:08] <tristan_> appeared ?
[16:09] <Rambytes> tristan_: HO! The update command give me some MANY error 404!
[16:09] <tristan_> That will be why
[16:09] <tristan_> Have you been screwing with /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[16:09] <Rambytes> tristan_: Nope, i'm in a fresh install
[16:09] <stdin> try running "sudo apt-get update" and try again
[16:10] <Rambytes> tristan_: can i pm you the result of my list?
[16:10] <stdin> !paste
[16:10] <tristan_> No
[16:10] <tristan_> Just paste one line here
[16:10] <stdin> or just use pastebin
[16:10] <Rambytes> W: Impossible de récupérer http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[16:11] <stdin> Rambytes: [16:09]<stdin> try running "sudo apt-get update" and try again
[16:11] <stdin> is that from that command?
[16:11] <Rambytes> stdin: Running 3 times, always the same
[16:11] <tristan_> Rambytes: Contact the people incharge of that repositories
[16:11] <tristan_> Seems like their problem
[16:12] <tristan_> Are you able to access google etc?
[16:12] <Rambytes> tristan_: The wab work no problem there
[16:12] <Rambytes> the web (sorry)
[16:12] <nainef> none here
[16:12] <tristan_> web works... ok go to the Ubuntu wiki and find whoever is incharge of your repositories
[16:12] <stdin> Rambytes: I'd suggest temporarily switching repos, a list is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors#head-48e05ae20c8e5a38a753c0305e5877080f316308
[16:12] <tristan_> Because it sounds like ther problem.
[16:12] <tristan_> And what he does
[16:12] <tristan_> says
[16:13] <tristan_> *
[16:13] <tristan_> Anyhoo
[16:13] <tristan_> I'm here for something else
[16:13] <stdin> they are probably in the middle of an update, give it a couple hours
[16:13] <tristan_> What's a good p2p program that isn't limewire?
[16:13] <Colonel_Panic> ok that worked
[16:13] <Rambytes> tristan_: Can you tell me where I change this list?
[16:13] <flaccid_> !p2p | tristan_
[16:14] <Colonel_Panic> I've installed the program, now how can I add it to my KDE applications menu?
[16:14] <pim> tristan_ where's isolde?
[16:14] <stdin> Rambytes: in adept go to the Adept menu and click "Manage Repositories"
[16:14] <tristan_> Colonel_Panic: Right click and edit
[16:14] <Colonel_Panic> I can only open it from the command line at the mo
[16:14] <ataxic> Soulseek for linux?
[16:14]  * flaccid_ bb
[16:14] <tristan_> flaccid_: I mean like gnutella based
[16:14] <ataxic> the windows software is shit
[16:15] <stdin> !Gnutella
[16:15] <flaccid_> tristan_, limewire clone, ie. frostwire?
[16:15] <ataxic> !SoulSeek
[16:15] <flaccid_> which is gnuttella and looks like frostweire
[16:15] <ataxic> brillaint
[16:15] <tristan_> It's for my friend, but I'm a bit concerened that limeiwre is going to screw his PC like a little bitch
[16:15] <Rambytes> stdin: Ok thks! I've choose another place in the list.... i'ts working!
[16:15] <Rambytes> Thks all!
[16:16] <flaccid_> well its just a program run under user perms so it can't screw your pc :)
[16:16] <tristan_> ¬_¬
[16:16] <tristan_> I don't mean like that
[16:16] <tristan_> I mean hog resources and fill the place with general crap
[16:17] <tristan_> So... without any sentenced beginning with !, what's a fairly clean p2p client that is easy to use?
[16:18] <flaccid_> tristan_, 'the place' huh ? and yeah its not as bloaty as limewire on windows or whatever but every p2p client will use decent cpu and disk access because of the nature of p2p..
[16:19] <mrksbrd> !firefox
[16:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[16:19] <flaccid_> and p2p is many many protocols. one could say that ktorrent is wonderful. but im not sure if you are looking for bit torrent..
[16:24] <Colonel_Panic> the menu editor hangs every time I try to save my new menu entries
[16:24] <Colonel_Panic> it goes gray and becomes unresponsive
[16:25] <Colonel_Panic> and I can't close it without manually killing the process
[16:26] <Colonel_Panic> is there some other way to edit the menu, like a file or something I can edit?
[16:26] <cyryl> dajcie mi kubuntu
[16:27] <amadeusx> Heya all, Anyone who's good at Bluetooth Audio?
[16:28] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, there sure is :)
[16:29] <Colonel_Panic> I've just noticed that Kopete, when it starts, doesn't automatically log me on
[16:29] <Colonel_Panic> and neither does Ktorrent
[16:29] <Colonel_Panic> I can't connect with either of these applictaipon
[16:29] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, there should be an option for kopete with that. and there is no login for ktorrent
[16:29] <Colonel_Panic> applications
[16:29] <Colonel_Panic> I know
[16:30] <Colonel_Panic> there's no loginb
[16:30] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/How_To_Configure_the_KDE_3_3_Menu_manually_without_KMenuEdit and there are others more specific to ubuntu
[16:30] <Colonel_Panic> but it doesn't connect me at all
[16:30] <flaccid_> why would there be
[16:30] <flaccid_> i guess you don't know how bittorrent works
[16:30] <Colonel_Panic> WTF is your problem? did you noty read what I just typed?
[16:31] <Colonel_Panic> I said it DOESN'T CONNECT
[16:31] <Colonel_Panic> TO THE N ETWORK
[16:31] <Colonel_Panic> I've been using bittorrent since it first came out
[16:31] <flaccid_> dont' shout. to what what network?
[16:31] <Colonel_Panic> to any trackers
[16:31] <Colonel_Panic> it does not connect
[16:31] <flaccid_> i also don't care how long you have been using bit torrent..
[16:31] <flaccid_> !doesntwork | Colonel_Panic
[16:32] <andyho623> Colonel: do you have your ports configured correctly??
[16:32] <Colonel_Panic> though I am seeding numerous torrents, it says there are no seeders
[16:32] <Colonel_Panic> I'm not firewalled or behind a router
[16:32] <Colonel_Panic> it was connecting just fine
[16:32] <Colonel_Panic> like, yesterday
[16:32] <Colonel_Panic> and Kopete doesn't connec t m,e either
[16:33] <flaccid_> !enter | Colonel_Panic
[16:33] <flaccid_> if you are so smart, can you get more information besides, it doesn't work?
[16:33] <Colonel_Panic> and yhis effing keyboard is a piece of crap that I'm about to hurl out the effing window
[16:33] <Colonel_Panic> OK
[16:33] <flaccid_> did you corrupt your install ?
[16:33] <ForgeAus> configure: error: FreeType development files not found.
[16:33] <ForgeAus> ???
[16:33] <ForgeAus> what package has them?
[16:33] <Colonel_Panic> this is what's happening
[16:33] <Colonel_Panic> several applications, when I first start them up
[16:34] <Colonel_Panic> start up as a tiny little window that's all black
[16:34] <AmadeusX> Colonel_Panic: tried to restart your sesson?
[16:34] <ForgeAus> !info freetype
[16:34] <Colonel_Panic> with the application's icon logo in the middle
[16:34] <Colonel_Panic> I'm running Gutsy
[16:35] <Colonel_Panic> restart my session?
[16:35] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, can you keep it on one line please
[16:35] <Colonel_Panic> ok
[16:35] <Colonel_Panic> so I had several applications set up to run automatically upon login
[16:35] <flaccid_> um it sounds glitchy and i couldnt have a guess at would it could be
[16:36] <Colonel_Panic> then yesterday, my Internet went out momentarily because of a storm, so I shut down my PC
[16:36] <AmadeusX> How long have your computer been uprunning?
[16:37] <Colonel_Panic> then when I restarted, the applications that I had set up to auto-run on startup have not been working correctly
[16:37] <vellakd> I'm having a problem.. the computer won't let me log in. Can someone help me?
[16:37] <Colonel_Panic> my computer had run for maybe 3 weeks to a month prior to that
[16:37] <SSJ_GZ> Colonel_Panic: "start up as a tiny little window that's all black" - could these be unanchored system tray icons?
[16:37] <flaccid_> sounds unfortunate. if i were you, i would upgrade to hardy, but thats just me. im not sure how you care going to work out issues like that
[16:38] <Colonel_Panic> unanchored system tray icons.... that may be it
[16:38] <Colonel_Panic> because the system tray is almost completely blank
[16:38] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, iirc thats a known bug
[16:38] <flaccid_> that kind of bug raises its ears a lot
[16:38] <Colonel_Panic> is that bug related to Compiz in any way?
[16:38] <flaccid_> yeah it happens mostly with it
[16:39] <flaccid_> adept notifier tray icon is the biggest culprit
[16:39] <Colonel_Panic> if I disable Desktop Effects, will it fix the problem>
[16:39] <Colonel_Panic> ?
[16:39] <Colonel_Panic> yeah there's no Adept Notifier icon
[16:39] <flaccid_> in 98% of cases yes
[16:39] <vellakd> Whevever I type the password (and I know its correct, considering I'm able to log in from tty1 that way), the screen just flashes and goes back to the login screen.
[16:39] <flaccid_> from my experiences
[16:40] <vellakd> I even changed the session to failsafe, and it still fails.
[16:40] <flaccid_> vellakd, check you /var/log/Xorg.0.log and Xsession and also consider selecting failsafe session and doing startkde manually from that failsafe konsole
[16:40] <flaccid_> vellakd, Xsession erros
[16:41] <flaccid_> errors or logs are always needed or you cannot pinpoint most of the time
[16:42] <Colonel_Panic> would an upgrade to Hardy fix this problem also?
[16:42] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, in theory yes as that bug was fixed. note that hardy uses its on k desktop effects, but you can still set up/install compiz-fusion
[16:43] <vellakd> flaccid_: the tail of the log doesn't really show anything other than its capturing mouse input and such. No outright failures.
[16:43] <flaccid_> vellakd, which log. please check ~/.xsession-errors
[16:43] <mrksbrd> whats the program name to install .deb packages?.....is it gdeb?.....another brain fart
[16:43] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, on=own
[16:44] <vellakd> the one in /var/log; let me check the other one.
[16:44] <Colonel_Panic> well I'm going to have to do something cuz this is unacceptable
[16:44] <flaccid_> mrksbrd, adept in gui, dpkg in cli
[16:44] <Colonel_Panic> how can I launch the Adept Updater?
[16:44] <mrksbrd> dpkg....thats it...ty
[16:44] <Colonel_Panic> I mean
[16:44] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, i agree. and i upgraded because of the same thing
[16:44] <Colonel_Panic> Adept Notifier
[16:44] <vellakd> aaaand nothing in xsession-errors
[16:44] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, adept_notifier
[16:44] <Colonel_Panic> ok
[16:45] <flaccid_> vellakd, try a new user login fresh
[16:45] <vellakd> flaccid_ what exactly do you mean? Create a new user and log in as that?
[16:45] <flaccid_> vellakd, yes. if the new user works, you at least know its something in the user profile
[16:45] <flaccid_> vellakd, you might want to check if you can log into any session kind at all as well
[16:46] <vellakd> flaccid_: I already said I'm able to log in from tty1 on this computer.
[16:47] <vellakd> flaccid_: and I've already tried all available graphic sessions on this computer.
[16:47] <flaccid_> vellakd, not from a tty. from the default kdm with a completely fresh new user so 1. its a dif user 2. there is no ~/.kde
[16:50] <vellakd> flaccid_: just tried that. Not working. I kinda figured it was that, considering tty1-6 was working.
[16:51] <flaccid_> vellakd, did you know that loggin in from a tty is completely different from loggin in from kdm?
[16:51] <vellakd> Yes, I quite understand that.
[16:51] <flaccid_> can't get any actual errors so im out of options
[16:51] <vellakd> Now, if you don't mind, do you have anything else to try?
[16:52] <vellakd> Okay.
[16:52] <vellakd> I'll try elsewhere.
[16:52] <flaccid_> unfortunately not. no errors you say, no identifiable behaviour. i don't know
[16:52] <flaccid_> good you do that mr.
[16:52] <vellakd> I'm not a "Mr.
[16:52] <flaccid_> thats what i called you
[16:52] <flaccid_> ok sir
[16:53] <Colonel_Panic> damn
[16:53] <vellakd> Okay, you can stop that, too.
[16:53] <Colonel_Panic> I need to free up 590M of disk space somehow
[16:53] <flaccid_> vellakd, see ya later sir
[16:53] <NickPresta> vellakd, how do you expect someone to diagnose a problem without any sort of information?
[16:54] <vellakd> I'm trying to give information. However, if I knew what was wrong, I woudln't be here, now would I?
[16:54] <NickPresta> Colonel_Panic, sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get clean
[16:54] <vellakd> xorg seems to be fine, no x-session error
[16:54] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, you could clear out /var/apt/archives
[16:54] <flaccid_> i thought you were trying elsewhere vellakd
[16:54] <vellakd> renaming the prefs files didn't work previously
[16:55] <greeg> hi
[16:55] <flaccid_> knowing something is wrong and fixing it is another story :)
[16:55] <vellakd> I was, but someone else was trying to ask me a question. I thought I was a 'sir'
[16:55] <greeg> im using a web site, that involves a cd with .wmv clips coresponding to links.  It has a link such that i select the drive letter the cd rom resides.  the problem is the web site only accounts for windows drive letters.
[16:55] <flaccid_> yes im calling you sir thats for sure
[16:55] <greeg> is there a way to disguise /dev/scd0 as E: for example ?
[16:55] <greeg> id rather not install a windows duel boot.
[16:55] <flaccid_> greeg, not that i know of, its different to windows :(
[16:56] <greeg> damn.
[16:56] <flaccid_> greeg, whats the actual problem?
[16:56] <vellakd> I'm sorry, I was unaware that you were the end-all on #kubuntu and was responsible for all responses here, either.
[16:56] <flaccid_> im not, i just call you sir because of the way you talk. i want to show you the upmost respect...
[16:56] <greeg> my problem is that this web site cannot access my cdrom.
[16:57] <greeg> oh well.  duel boot it is.
[16:57] <vellakd> And I'm sure you can do that by ceasing to call me that, as previously asked. However, you aren't, so you aren't showing respect. Funny how that works, right?
[16:57] <flaccid_> greeg, websites cannot access cdroms through the browser, so im not sure what you mean exactly
[16:57] <mrksbrd> greeg....linux doesn't recognize drive letters like windows
[16:57] <vellakd> anyway, I need to get this fixed for this user, so I need to get going now.
[16:57] <flaccid_> vellakd, its freenode = free speech
[16:58] <greeg> linux sucks.
[16:58] <flaccid_> vellakd, im showing you respect the way i know it, i have no idea about your culture :)
[16:58] <flaccid_> sweet, cya vellakd
[16:58] <avihayb> greeg, can let the website acces any other file on your computer?
[16:58] <mrksbrd> he left
[16:59] <bazhang> he quit
[16:59] <avihayb> ya, saw it too late
[17:00] <avihayb> the worst thing about it, is that he dosn't understand that it's not that linux sux, but that that website suck by being narrow minded, and suporting only infirior software
[17:00] <BluesKaj> linux sucks for ppl like him, who need instant gratification and have no patience
[17:01] <Eruaran> Sounds like the website he wants to use sucks
[17:01] <flaccid_> its hard to accept that nothing can really be done for those users in practical
[17:01] <Firefishe> BluesKaj:  no doubt.
[17:02] <flaccid_> well his website would need a pretty nice ActiveX control to get to the cdrom for a start..
[17:02] <flaccid_> and activex won't run on linux of course. so he could mean something else/way
[17:02] <Eruaran> Why would anyone want a website to be able to access their cdrom ? Or any drive on your local system for that matter ?
[17:02] <Firefishe> My win partition is so bad, I'm considering just saving what I want to DVD archives, nixxing the entire ntfs piece of junk, and installing a second *nix or something.
[17:04] <flaccid_> Eruaran, because thats what they wanted to do i guess. in the real world there is not much science in IT
[17:04] <Eruaran> I can understand if you're uploading a nice pic for your profile on kde-look but beyond that...
[17:05] <Firefishe> Eruaran:  That *s* weird.  Unless it's a photo site of some kind and *maybe* you have to sync to it.  I'd sure wouldn't want something as leaky as ActiveX activating the feature, though.
[17:05] <Firefishe> *is*
[17:05] <deamon3> hey
[17:05] <flaccid_> yeah its actually a good thing that rogue things like activex cannot run on linux
[17:05] <deamon3> where is the deleted files ?¿
[17:06] <Firefishe> you got that right, flaccid)
[17:06] <Firefishe> I'd like a nice ssh wrapper or something to harden that connection
[17:06] <avihayb> flaccid_:  there is something "we" can do, make linux more user freindly
[17:06] <flaccid_> deamon3, gone? or maybe in your trash
[17:06] <Firefishe> avihayb: we are, it's taking time, but we are.
[17:06] <flaccid_> avihayb, in what way exactly?
[17:06] <deamon3> lol
[17:06] <flaccid_> ssh to harden what sorry?
[17:07] <deamon3> I delete from trash
[17:07] <Firefishe> flaccid_ :  oops, maybe I meant ssl?
[17:07] <jussi01> deamon3: gone...
[17:07] <flaccid_> Firefishe, ssl or tls is client to server and isn't relevent to activex ?
[17:08] <Firefishe> flaccid_:  ah, I see.
[17:08] <avihayb> flaccid_: if you don't understand it, it will be hard (for me) explaining it to you with words
[17:08] <avihayb> but I bet you know what I mean
[17:08]  * jussi01 suggest the #kubuntu-devel channel for helping make kubuntubetter
[17:09] <flaccid_> avihayb, to a certain extent. but generalisations never did anyone good especially when you think how more useable something like kubuntu can be
[17:09] <flaccid_> Firefishe, sorry server to client model. not pushing the other way back heh
[17:09] <Firefishe> I would like to know where, online, I can learn to code in C++ from an online daily lesson plan, preferably using eclipse or kdevelop?
[17:09] <avihayb> ok, think how mutch nicer if kubuntu would have a graphical lshw
[17:10] <avihayb> gtg, cya
[17:10] <Firefishe> flaccid_:  I see.  I'm learning, but my brain is a little slow today, as well.  I really need to re-learn html, add xml to the mix, and get to learning how to code in general.  I have ADD an it's really difficult for me to sit down without a step-by-step approach, preferably using a common IDE>
[17:12] <flaccid_> Firefishe, im a web standards developer. don't use an ide. i use only kate. learn web standards ie. semantic and valid markup, css etc. and go forward!
[17:12] <Firefishe> so just stick with a text editor and be done with it, eh?
[17:13] <flaccid_> Firefishe, explain to me why you need an IDE :)
[17:14] <Firefishe> flaccid_:  Can you suggest an online lesson plan for learning web code, from basic to advanced?  On the IDE, I dunoo, it just seems to streamline things, especially when dealing with all that object oriented stuff.  For large projects, it lets you see things graphically; I think visually/intuitively,and can sometimes spot problems with a gui system.
[17:15] <Firefishe> although I'm quite confortable building software from source, and can read an error output at the command line, and can usually tweak something to build properly.,
[17:15] <Firefishe> usually ;).  some things are just too obscure
[17:16] <flaccid_> Firefishe, wrong way of thinking. you need to learn html and css properly not let some program try to do it for you. what you are talking about is more a WYSIWYG program which won't help you at all as there are no valid ones. i deal with enterprise stuff and i use kate :) there is many resources on the web eg. http://cssplay.co.uk
[17:16] <flaccid_> Firefishe, um html and css are inteprted not compiled languages...
[17:16] <flaccid_> interpreted
[17:17] <davor> hi
[17:17] <Firefishe> flaccid_:  I follow.
[17:17] <davor> I have a stupid problem that annoys me...
[17:19] <davor> I have 2 desktops, I would like to switch off the switching between them when the mouse reaches the borders of the Desktop
[17:19] <davor> I can't find where to turn thst option off
[17:20] <deamon3> hey i need rescue my undeleted files
[17:22] <Firefishe> flaccid_:  Intresting site.  So these are all examples of what you can do with css?
[17:23] <flaccid_> Firefishe, yeah alex is a crazy css guy, pretty good..
[17:23] <LASNALGAS__> mama guebo
[17:24] <LASNALGAS__> what is this shit?
[17:24] <sufi> =-O=-O=-O=-O=-O=-O
[17:24] <sufi> ola
[17:25] <flaccid_> its called the internet :)
[17:25] <sufi> alguien q able en español??????????
[17:25] <LASNALGAS__> digame
[17:26] <LASNALGAS__> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[17:26] <sufi> dnd estan las salas en castellano??????????
[17:26] <Pennycook> !es | sufi
[17:26] <LASNALGAS__> y porke eskribes tu en espaniol
[17:26] <LASNALGAS__> no deberias de estar aki
[17:27] <bazhang> !es
[17:27] <flaccid_> english only channel padre
[17:27] <sufi> entonces dnd?????
[17:27] <p64y> Hello, do anyone know, where i can get a kubuntu cd cover, which i can print on a CD? I already found a Ubuntu Cover, now i am looking for a kubuntu version. http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll137/maxnasciemnto/Ububtu_8_04_Hardy_Heron_Cover_by_Lu.jpg
[17:28] <LASNALGAS__> i wanna install ubibtu in my PC, but i am no sure
[17:29] <flaccid_> ah well
[17:30] <LASNALGAS__> i wanna learn more about ubuntu
[17:30] <soso> bonjour
[17:31] <Pennycook> p64y: There's some here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[17:33] <mooper> I have a 400GB sataII harddrive but it is not mounting properly
[17:33] <mooper> Even as root I cant add/remove files
[17:34] <p64y> Pennycook: well, they are not as good as the ubuntu covers, but it's okay. Thank you =)
[17:35] <flaccid_> mooper, what is the entry in fstab and the entry in mount ?
[17:36] <kunwon1> On kubuntu gutsy, I have a problem where my keyboard stops working, after KDE has completely finished loading - I test this by pressing numlock repeatedly and watching when the light stops blinking - what might cause this? I've googled and see some people report this problem being caused by skim/scim, would it be bad to remove these and see if it helps?
[17:39] <compilerwriter> can someone please tell me where the executable for kmymoney is likely to be on my system /etc/bin or something
[17:40] <Paperout> Ciao a tutti
[17:40] <tekteen> compilerwriter: open a konsole and type "which kmymoney"
[17:45] <mooper> flaccid /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,data=ordered)
[17:45] <mooper> is in mount
[17:46] <compilerwriter> thanks tekteen
[17:46] <mooper> flaccid but there is no entry in fstab
[17:46] <tekteen> np
[17:47] <flaccid_> mooper, can you pastebin ls -l /media/disk please ?
[17:47] <flaccid_> mooper, kde/hal automounted?
[17:48] <mooper> flaccid http://rafb.net/p/bIUEiX42.html - ls -l /media/disk
[17:48] <mooper> flaccid_ I dont know about kde/hal
[17:50] <melinda> hi
[17:51] <mooper> flaccid_ Any Ideas?
[17:51] <mooper> hi melinda
[17:51] <flaccid_> looking now
[17:51] <mooper> ta
[17:52] <melinda> :)
[17:53] <flaccid_> mooper, do you know at what point the system mounted the filesystem in question?
[17:53] <mooper> flaccid. when I plugge in the usb drive
[17:54] <flaccid_> kde version, mooper ?
[17:54] <mooper> 3
[17:54] <flaccid_> ok
[17:54] <flaccid_> mooper, can you paste dmesg please
[17:54] <flaccid_> pasebin
[17:56] <flaccid_> mooper, also did you just plugin the drive and it mounted etc. ?
[17:58] <mooper> flaccid_: yes thats right
[18:00] <flaccid_> mooper, ok no problem. the drive is ext3, you just need to change permission on what you need to...
[18:01] <mooper> flaccid_: dmesg http://rafb.net/p/TVHgXa41.html
[18:02] <flaccid_> mooper, do you know how to change permissions on files?
[18:02] <mooper> yeah but the disk is mounting with wierd permissions
[18:02] <flaccid_> mooper, well its ext3 so it should have permissions on any file..
[18:03] <flaccid_> but you are right, i would of assumed hal would but users in the option
[18:03] <mooper> /dev/sdb1 on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,data=ordered)
[18:03] <flaccid_> mooper, change a file to be owned by you with 740 and then see if you can modify it under user
[18:04] <flaccid_> if you can, its working properly, if it doesn't then you need uid and gid mount options
[18:04] <mooper> ok
[18:05] <flaccid_> so change the perms under sudo/root
[18:09] <ubuntu> hi
[18:09] <Fra_kikka> hi
[18:10] <Fra_kikka> wo speak with me?
[18:10] <flaccid_> howdy
[18:11] <dalew> how do I get ndiswrapper to autoload??
[18:12] <dalew> nvrmnd figured it out
[18:15] <flaccid_> dalew, /etc/modules ?
[18:15] <Walzmyn> why if i mouse over an .xml or a .desktop file do I get an error about the file not being a proper amarok podcast file?
[18:15] <flaccid_> Walzmyn, from memory thats a bug
[18:16] <Walzmyn> flaccid, how do i squish it? it's anoying as hell
[18:16] <flaccid_> i think its because text/html is put in the desktop entries
[18:16] <flaccid_> Walzmyn, um what is the exact error?
[18:16] <Walzmyn> flaccid, what desktop entries?
[18:16] <Walzmyn> flaccid, hold, i'll reproduce it.
[18:18] <Walzmyn> The desktop entry file
[18:18] <Walzmyn> /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[18:18] <Walzmyn> has an invalid menu entry
[18:18] <Walzmyn> addAsPodcast.
[18:19] <daddy> hello everyone
[18:19] <Walzmyn> what I wanna know is why it kicks that in just by mousing over a file
[18:19] <Walzmyn> hi
[18:21] <flaccid_> Walzmyn, remove text/html from the file opening it with kdesudo /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[18:21] <flaccid_> oops kdesudo kate /usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop
[18:22] <flaccid_> Walzmyn, its a but
[18:22] <flaccid_> bug
[18:22] <Walzmyn> ok, I see that
[18:22] <Walzmyn> What is the purpose of this file? why would you want to add something just in a mouseover?
[18:22] <flaccid_> cool
[18:23] <nosrednaekim> Walzmyn: thats a menu-option thing
[18:23] <flaccid_> Walzmyn, it doesn't work like that. i have never used an ipod, but i do know that podcasts are xml so text/html doesn't seem valid. this fix worked with another user.
[18:24] <Walzmyn> nosrednaekim, menu-option?
[18:24] <v6lur> aaargh, kde4.1 beta made env variable lang disappear and now all accented characters (äöü etc) are b0rked :(
[18:24] <nosrednaekim> Walzmyn: WHEN YOU RIGHT CLICK ON IT
[18:24] <v6lur> how to fix it?
[18:25] <Walzmyn> nosrednaekim, oh, but I'm not, i'm just mousing over it
[18:25] <v6lur> at least i *think* it's kde4.1's fault...
[18:25] <flaccid_> v6lur, kde4 help is in #kubuntu-kde4
[18:25] <nosrednaekim> Walzmyn: ooops.. sorry caps
[18:25] <v6lur> ok
[18:26] <Walzmyn> nosrednaekim, too late, my feelings are hurt now  :(
[18:26] <Walzmyn> flaccid, text/html didn't fix it, I just removed the whole line. I don't use podcasts anyway
[18:28] <flaccid_> Walzmyn, oky doke.
[18:28] <Agent_bob> nosrednaekim you mean you didn't yell on purpose ?      but it fit so well...
[18:28] <flaccid_> yeah i never used one so not sure the rationale behind that thing
[18:29] <Walzmyn> thanks for the help guys @ flaccid & nosrednaekim
[18:29] <flaccid_> np
[18:30] <Walzmyn> ahh, and I also just got my virtualbox back to running
[18:31] <flaccid_> cool
[18:31] <nosrednaekim> Agent_bob: lol
[18:31] <Walzmyn> flaccid, yeah, i ditched the repository packages and DL'd the not-so-free version from Sun: it works
[18:32] <Colonel_Panic> OK I jjust finished upgrading
[18:32] <flaccid_> ouch
[18:32] <flaccid_> but sweet
[18:32] <Colonel_Panic> um
[18:32] <flaccid_> im listening to ebtg
[18:32] <flaccid_> need to de-stress
[18:32] <Colonel_Panic> the system tray icons are still appearing on the desktop
[18:32] <flaccid_> oops wrong chan my bad.
[18:33] <Colonel_Panic> what's ebtg?
[18:33] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, with compiz?
[18:33] <Colonel_Panic> yes
[18:33] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, sorry man everything but the girl
[18:33] <Colonel_Panic> I think I need to uninstall compiz or something
[18:33] <Colonel_Panic> oh ok
[18:33] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, does it work normal without compiz?
[18:33] <Colonel_Panic> well I need to disable compiz to check, don't I?
[18:34] <flaccid_> yeah
[18:34] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, in konsole kwin --replace
[18:34] <flaccid_> or use a tray icon or watever you use normally
[18:39] <Walzmyn> anybody familiar with the KDE4daily virtual images?
[18:39] <SSJ_GZ> Walzmyn: -> #kde4daily :)
[18:40] <flaccid_> or #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 related
[18:40] <Walzmyn> ah, ok
[18:42] <Colonel_Panic> OK I'm still having the same problem
[18:42] <Colonel_Panic> if I disable compiz, I get like 16 desktops and my window decorations disappear
[18:43] <flaccid_> !compiz-fusion
[18:44] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, the above links talks about what is needed. in kubuntu you need to do a couple of things to make sure window decs are retained
[18:46] <Colonel_Panic> If Hardy has its own desktop effects, I'd rather just uninstall compiz entirely
[18:46] <Colonel_Panic> it seems to be much more of a liability then a benefit at this point
[18:47] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, true. just keep in mind the effects are with k not hardy so it doesn't have all that compiz fusion has
[18:47] <Colonel_Panic> disabling it appears to create a cluster-fuck of other problems
[18:47] <Agent_bob> hmmm just noticed my mouse wont move up or down.   only left/right   ;/
[18:47] <Colonel_Panic> eh?
[18:47] <Colonel_Panic> the effects are with KDE?
[18:48] <flaccid_> yeah
[18:48] <Colonel_Panic> what version KDEW is this?
[18:48] <Colonel_Panic> KDE
[18:48] <Colonel_Panic> (I need a new keyboard)
[18:49] <Colonel_Panic> Can I disable Emerald without losing my window decorations?
[18:49] <flaccid_> actually that may be with kde4 only. if you got system settings | desktop can you select effects options?
[18:49] <Agent_bob> looks like a reboot to fix it.   back soon
[18:49] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, yes if you followed the guide and did what is necessary
[18:49] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, might i suggest #compiz-fusion for better help. i dont use it sorry hard to remember
[18:50] <Colonel_Panic> I'm not seeing and option for effects in the system settings | desktop
[18:50] <Nyad> restricted driver manager isn't in advanced tab of system settings, how do i use it
[18:52] <Colonel_Panic> well there
[18:52] <Colonel_Panic> there's no answer in the #compix-fusion channel
[18:52] <flaccid_> Nyad, sudo apt-get install restricted-manager-kde && kdesudo restricted-manager-kde
[18:52] <flaccid_> be patient i gues
[18:53] <ForgeAus> its #Compiz-fusion
[18:53] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, i could be wrong. i thought in the last version of kde3 they added a gui. its kde4 that has the native effects but kde3 should switch to compiz. i could be totally wrong
[18:54] <Colonel_Panic> ForgeAus: Yeah I misspelled it in here but nobody's responding in #compiz-fusion
[18:54] <Agent_bob> "huston, we have a problem!"
[18:55] <Agent_bob> i think the birth certificate has expired on my mouse.
[18:55] <nosrednaekim> Colonel_Panic: yes, there is syetm->desktop efttects but thats probably not going to help much
[18:55] <Agent_bob> anyone ever have a mouse "die" on you ?
[18:55] <MilitantPotato> Agent_bob: only a laser
[18:55] <nilpat10> no
[18:55] <Agent_bob> MilitantPotato me either till now.
[18:56] <MilitantPotato> I've heard of the springs on the ball contacts going out thought.
[18:57] <Agent_bob> springs ?     heh.   not aplicable
[18:58] <Agent_bob> that would be a marble mouse you are talking about,   no ?
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> Agent_bob: yep... twice
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> both opticals
[18:58] <nosrednaekim> one was the left button
[18:59] <nosrednaekim> the other was microsoft crap and the "tail" went
[19:00] <Agent_bob> the up/down stepper is not functioning on this on.     two button ps2 + wheel       looks like everrything but the up/down movement still works.
[19:00] <Agent_bob> s/on/one/
[19:02] <Nyad> when I'm updating with updates that I have been notified of, what's the difference between purging and removing?
[19:03] <nosrednaekim> purging removes config files IIRC
[19:03] <flaccid_> Nyad, purging removes global rc/config files that can be left
[19:03] <nosrednaekim> not config files in /home... but in etc
[19:03] <Nyad> and removing?
[19:04] <nosrednaekim> everything but that
[19:04] <Nyad> everything but the global config files, and I have to manually get rid of the ones in home?
[19:05] <nosrednaekim> yes
[19:05] <Agent_bob> Nyad yep.  package manager does not touch ~
[19:08]  * Agent_bob goes to get another mice
[19:09] <andyho623> can someone tell me where ya enter in your network settings so I can input my ip and dns?? I looked in Network Settings but the only thing there are proxy settings
[19:10] <flaccid_> andyho623, kde version?
[19:10] <andyho623> 4
[19:10] <nosrednaekim> andyho623: do you have any net access?
[19:10] <andyho623> nos: nope
[19:10] <flaccid_> andyho623, kde4 support in #kde4-support as per topic
[19:10] <flaccid_> andyho623, i mean #kubuntu-kde4
[19:11] <nosrednaekim> andyho623: http://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/static-networking-in-kubuntu-804-kde4/
[19:11] <andyho623> thx nos!! :)
[19:11] <Nyad> flaccid_: with this command sudo apt-get install restricted-manager-kde && kdesudo restricted-manager-kde.  isn't it kdesu and not kdesudo?
[19:12] <MilitantPotato> kdesu is now kdesudo
[19:12] <flaccid_> Nyad, depends on what version of kubuntu you are on. its always been sudo and not su anyway
[19:13] <Nyad> oh ok
[19:21] <Erny> Please, someone help, when I start Kubuntu, KDE doesn't start, only terminal
[19:21] <nosrednaekim> Erny: click on the session button in KDM and switch to "KDE"
[19:22] <nosrednaekim> KDM is the login manager
[19:22] <Erny> there is not KDM running
[19:22] <nosrednaekim> oh.
[19:22] <Erny> it doesn't start
[19:22] <Erny> I see only terminal prompt
[19:22] <nosrednaekim> Erny: did you do anything recently?
[19:23] <fran> hola
[19:23] <Erny> I just set new resoltution but it was fine
[19:24] <flaccid_> check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:25] <Erny> The last line says:
[19:25] <Erny> Screens found but none have a usable configuration
[19:25] <fran> spanish channel?
[19:25] <Colonel_Panic> is there a way to remove cmpiz fusion without ruining my desktop functionality?
[19:25] <flaccid_> Erny, need to look for the actual error above that
[19:25] <flaccid_> !en | fran
[19:26] <flaccid_> err
[19:26] <flaccid_> !es | fran
[19:26] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, totally remove?
[19:26] <fran> thanks
[19:26] <flaccid_> just remove the packages
[19:26] <fran> see you
[19:26] <Colonel_Panic> can I do that?
[19:26] <flaccid_> cia0 fran
[19:26] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic,  yeah
[19:26] <Colonel_Panic> which packages do I need to remove?
[19:26] <Erny> flaccid_: it's very long, how do I show it?
[19:27] <flaccid_> !compiz-fusion | Colonel_Panic
[19:27] <flaccid_> !pastebin | Erny
[19:27] <Colonel_Panic> I have a feeling Emerald is the root of the trouble, because whenever I replace the desktop with kwin, all my window decs disappear
[19:28] <MachinTrucChose> !partitioning
[19:28] <Colonel_Panic> I need to take a break here
[19:28] <nosrednaekim> Erny: do this "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
[19:28] <MachinTrucChose> !QTParted
[19:28] <flaccid_> Colonel_Panic, did you read the wiki article about that?
[19:29] <flaccid_> Erny, or just grep WW /var/log/Xorg.0.log; grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log for all of the errors an warning
[19:30] <MachinTrucChose> huh, the qtparted is part of the apt-get list but it gets a 404 when it tries to find it.
[19:30] <andyho623> yea networking fixed!! thx again nos!!!!!
[19:31] <Erny> flaccid_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18536/   and http://paste.ubuntu.com/18537/
[19:32] <flaccid_> thanks
[19:33] <flaccid_> Erny, your virtual size is too big for your hardware
[19:33] <Nyad> how do I check how much internet traffic has passed through my pc today and on other days?
[19:34] <Erny> flaccid_: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ? should I edit that?
[19:34] <flaccid_> Erny, which is wierd because you asked for 2048 with max 2048 so you could have an incorrect modeline
[19:34] <flaccid_> Erny, yeah or pastebin for a perusal
[19:34] <deamon3> i need the BACKTRACK 3 Repositories
[19:34] <flaccid_> deamon3, can't help here sorry.
[19:34] <trixon> Hi, I just reinstalled my system and forgot the name of a program I use a lot, it's like krandr for quick res change
[19:34] <The_ManU_212> http://pastebin.com/m1ad57da4 <-- is my fstab ok?, why are the dvd using udf and why  are they in fstab?
[19:34] <deamon3> where i will go ?¿
[19:35] <flaccid_> trixon, krandrtray or xrandr in cli
[19:35] <flaccid_> deamon3, i ask myself that every day
[19:36] <flaccid_> The_ManU_212, its set like that to support both udf and iso9660
[19:36] <Erny> flaccid_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18541/ ....there is also xorg.conf.1  there, might that be a backup
[19:37] <Erny> hmmm xorg.conf.bak too
[19:37] <flaccid_> Erny, do you do more than 1 display or you just need 1 ?
[19:37] <jaakkome> uh, I have a problem with Qparted
[19:37] <Erny> just 1
[19:37] <jaakkome> It won't start...
[19:37] <boggystudios> Does anyone here have a reccomendation for an alternative to ksysguard for monitoring activity on a remote maching?
[19:37] <flaccid_> Erny, lspci|grep VGA please
[19:38] <Agent_bob> hmmm now i have a genuine hp mouse plugged into this genuine dell computer  ;/       but it works.
[19:38] <flaccid_> !doesntwork | jaakkome
[19:38] <jaakkome> it does not start
[19:38] <flaccid_> jaakkome, start it from konsole, what does it say for errors etc. ?
[19:38] <Erny> flaccid_: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
[19:39] <flaccid_> Erny, what sort of monitor is it and what resolution?
[19:39] <jm87> hi i m matteo i m very much problem with m i pod
[19:39] <The_ManU_212> flaccid_ can you tell me if my fstab is fine? http://pastebin.com/m1ad57da4
[19:40] <Erny> flaccid_: that's a virtual machine and I think it should support any resolution, no?
[19:40] <jaakkome> hmm, it started from the konsole without problems :O
[19:40] <trixon> flaccid_, thank you, it was krandrtray!
[19:40] <flaccid_> The_ManU_212, looks ok to me i guess but i have no idea what you should be enabling a lot is commented. is there a problem?
[19:41] <flaccid_> np trixon
[19:41] <jaakkome> so I guess the problem was just with the KDE meny entry
[19:41] <flaccid_> jaakkome, i guess so or at least possibly
[19:41] <flaccid_> you could compare the locations
[19:41] <The_ManU_212> flaccid_ no all the comments re only hints, no "Mount-code"
[19:42] <flaccid_> Erny, huh you use a virtual machine, what do you mean. if you take out 		Virtual	2048	1536 it may work, if it doesn't take out all modelines and resolutions
[19:42] <kiran_> hi guys
[19:42] <The_ManU_212> flaccidwhat about the pass numbers i read  that only root shpuld be set o 1 the others to 2
[19:42] <flaccid_> The_ManU_212, is there a problem with it?
[19:43] <flaccid_> do you need what pass is, i mean i don't know your requirements so i coulnd't possibly know what is right The_ManU_212
[19:43] <flaccid_> need=know
[19:43] <jm87> after the connection beetween my ipod  and my ubuntu pc , i can t do the  loading of  my music on my i pod with hipo or amarok why ?
[19:43] <The_ManU_212> flaccid_ i dont know what pass is
[19:44] <kiran_> which bittorrent client do you guys use? i got azureus but its too buggy and keeps crashing
[19:44] <flaccid_> The_ManU_212, its fsck basically
[19:44] <The_ManU_212> flaccid_ the only problem is that i thought exec could be a lack of security so i changed it to noexec, is that right?
[19:44] <flaccid_> The_ManU_212, no
[19:44] <flaccid_> unix permissions are used for that
[19:45] <jm87> i need some advise s
[19:45] <Agent_bob> wha kind of fs are we playing with ?
[19:45] <The_ManU_212> flaccid_ a friend told me it would be possible that rootkits can execute with exec
[19:46] <flaccid_> The_ManU_212, root kits can exec anything if they have um root...
[19:46] <Agent_bob> wha kind of fs are we playing with ?
[19:46] <The_ManU_212> flaccid_ so exec makes sense
[19:46] <Agent_bob> flaccid_ what's he doing ?
[19:46] <ibou> how to create a wifi network between one windows  pc and one kubuntu pc ?
[19:46] <flaccid_> no it doesn't make sense
[19:46] <ibou> i want to chare filews
[19:46] <ibou> files
[19:46] <ibou> share
[19:47] <FoxII> run windows in kubuntu/kubuntu in windows?
[19:47] <Agent_bob> !samba | ibou
[19:47] <flaccid_> The_ManU_212, its sensible to put noexec on an FS that has no requirement to run binaries. but if you need to run at least 1 binary then its not feasible.
[19:47] <flaccid_> FoxII, checkout http://andlinux.org
[19:47] <flaccid_> and wine for the other way around obviously :)
[19:48] <FoxII> flaccid, thanks :)
[19:48] <flaccid_> np
[19:49] <ibou> thanks Agent_bob
[19:50] <adac>  where can I set the language of the keyboard in kde4_
[19:51] <NickPresta> adac, ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[19:56] <Dragnslcr> Anybody else having network problems since any recent updates? For some reason, my connection goes down after about 10 minutes, and I have disable/enable eth0 to get it back
[19:56] <flaccid_> Dragnslcr, what driver and card are you using on which release?
[19:57] <Dragnslcr> Onboard NIC
[19:57] <Dragnslcr> Just started today after I rebooted from a kernel update
[19:58] <flaccid_> Dragnslcr, so like what is lscpi | grep -i network ?
[19:59] <FoxI2> If it's any help, To change the keyboard settings, click the kde icon, hover over Computer and system settings will be at the top under Applications.
[19:59] <Dragnslcr> flaccid_- nothing
[20:00] <Dragnslcr> KNetwork Manager lists it as an nVidia MCP55
[20:01] <flaccid_> Dragnslcr, maybe it comes up different. can you see it in lscpi at all ?
[20:01] <flaccid_> what connectivity is it eg. which bus
[20:02] <Dragnslcr> 00:08.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)
[20:02] <Dragnslcr> 00:09.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP55 Ethernet (rev a2)
[20:02] <Dragnslcr> Those are for the two onboard NICs
[20:02] <crashhandler> what is the run command for songbird?
[20:03] <flaccid_> Dragnslcr, do you get any output in /var/log/messages or dmesg when it drops off the net ?
[20:03] <Rambytes> Hi everyone!
[20:03] <Rambytes> :)
[20:03] <Dragnslcr> Haven't checked
[20:03] <flaccid_> howdy
[20:06] <Rambytes> I know this answer i,m sure already solved, but i'm new so i don't know how to install a new theme in Kubuntu. I've download a theme in kde-look.org (a tar.gz file) and when I try to install the theme, Kubuntu tell me that theme is invalid... So, i download the wrong file or i'm not at the right place in kubuntu to install theme???
[20:07] <flaccid_> Rambytes, sounds right to me. did you try another theme?
[20:07] <Agent_bob> The_ManU_212 yes that's one of the known issue.  and hal + automount is still being developed.  so it will improve with a little time.      no.  irc only.
[20:07] <Dragnslcr> flaccid_- there it goes again. Nothing in /var/log that I can see
[20:08] <The_ManU_212> Agent_bob: ok, so if my dvd devices work with fstab...never change a runnig system?
[20:08] <Rambytes> flaccid, No, but i've check something, the theme i've downloaded is for KDE 3.2+ .... what command I can type to know the version of my KDE?
[20:09] <NickPresta> Rambytes, the theme should work fine.
[20:09] <Agent_bob> The_ManU_212 i didn't say "never change a runnig system"     in fact my moto is "if it isn't broken, fix it."    :)   but as a general rule.  things you don't mess with,  keep working longer.
[20:09] <Rambytes> NickPresta: But what can I do to know the version of KDE i have?
[20:10] <NickPresta> Rambytes, open up a KDE application (Konqueror for example) and go to Help -> About KDE
[20:10]  * Agent_bob expands "mess with" to include "update/upgrade"
[20:11] <Rambytes> NickPresta: Ok, I have the 3.5.9
[20:11] <NickPresta> Rambytes, yeah. That's fine. The theme should work.
[20:11] <NickPresta> what theme is it for?
[20:11] <Nece228> visi klausykit simuko!
[20:12] <crashhandler> what is the run command for songbird?i installed songbird but cant find it on kmenu...
[20:12] <flaccid__> crashhandler, whast is songbird and where did you get it from?
[20:12] <Rambytes> NickPresta: Because i'm new in Linux, and it's hard for me to not return in windows, I want to install a XP theme like... like the kde_xp_full-1.3
[20:12] <crashhandler> http://getsongbird.com/
[20:13] <Nece228> visi klausykit simuko!
[20:13] <Erny> Someone please help, I can't choose lower reolution than 1280x1024
[20:13] <NickPresta> Rambytes, I mean, is it a full KDE theme? Can you give me the link to where you gotit from?
[20:13] <flaccid__> crashhandler, how did you install it?
[20:13] <Rambytes> NickPresta: Sure.... wait
[20:13] <crashhandler> http://phorolinux.com/installing-songbird-03-on-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html
[20:14] <Rambytes> NickPresta: here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/kde3+xp+style?content=1499
[20:14] <flaccid__> crashhandler, and did you read the documentation ?
[20:14] <crashhandler> yeah,but the documentation is too...
[20:14] <flaccid__> crashhandler, the link you gave me advises: Exec=/opt/Songbird/songbird
[20:15] <flaccid__> and in gui, To run Songbird 0.3, you can click Applications → Sound & Video → Songbird.
[20:15] <crashhandler> should i go to that directory?
[20:15] <flaccid__> crashhandler, no just run the command
[20:15] <crashhandler> yeah i know but it is not there...
[20:15] <crashhandler> owh okok
[20:15] <crashhandler> i try first
[20:15] <Rambytes> NickPresta: Got it?
[20:15] <flaccid__> well if its not there then ask them
[20:16] <NickPresta> Rambytes, yep. Inspecting it now.
[20:16] <flaccid__> crashhandler, if you followed step 2. under root it should be there otherwise you stuffed up
[20:16] <Rambytes> NickPresta: ok and after i will ask my second question (harder one)
[20:18] <NickPresta> Rambytes, wow. That is a fairly comprehensive theme.
[20:18] <Rambytes> NickPresta: What do you mean (sorry, my english is not very good0
[20:19] <John_S> When I go into "manual configuation" in knetworkmanager, the only encryption option it gives is WEP, not any variant of WPA. Am I missing something? How do I connect to a network with WPA encryption?
[20:20] <Rambytes> NickPresta: and where do go in KDE to install a new theme???
[20:20] <Manabu> my kaffeine entered in an loop when I tried to play an .wmv file
[20:21] <Agent_bob> The_ManU_212 yes the fstab looks fine to me.  the  line with the vfat fs has "defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=1000"  which i would perfer to contain  "defaults,utf8,fmask=117,dmask=007,gid=1000"    that is only a small failsafe to keep you from accidently executing something that you don't mean too but dubble clicked in place of single clicked maybe.
[20:21] <Manabu> it opens the codec instaler, but then spits an error saying that the codec is already instaled
[20:21] <Manabu> I click ok in that error, and it opens the codec instaler again
[20:21] <NickPresta> Rambytes, its complicated and the instructions are written in Italian. Apparently, you're supposed to unpack the tar.gz and run the 'install-usr.sh' script or the 'install-opt.sh' / 'install-opt-kde3.sh' script. I don't know is this theme will overwrite default files (it looks like it will though) so I would use this theme with care (or find another theme)
[20:21] <Manabu> an so on..
[20:21] <Manabu> in VLC the video has no audio...
[20:22] <Manabu> in windows, all work perfeclty
[20:22] <Rambytes> NickPresta: and where do go in KDE to install a new theme???
[20:22] <flaccid__> yeah Rambytes that them is non standard
[20:22] <SlimeyPete> wmv is never much good under Linux
[20:23] <Manabu> others videos have audio
[20:23] <NickPresta> Rambytes, this theme is complicated. You can't install it with the System-Settings area. You need to run the install-*.sh scripts and then it will be in the System-Settings area. At least that is what I understand.
[20:23] <SpeS> hi, If I have in sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main ... should I have KDE4.1?? becouse I think I have 4.0.3b, at least that's what apt-cache show kdebase-kde4 says...??
[20:23] <DJG9282> Hi guys. If i wanted to manually install a different kernal to the kubuntu operating system how would i do that...for instance..i am downloading linux-image-2.6.21.0-22_2.6.21.0-22.i686.deb to my desktop...how could i install this package? do i have to put it to a certain directory before installing it or i could do it right from the desktop?
[20:23] <SlimeyPete> tends to depend on the version of wmv that it was encoded with
[20:23] <Manabu> hum, but kaffeine should not enter in an endless loop
[20:24] <flaccid__> SpeS, help for kde4 is in #kubuntu-kde4
[20:24] <flaccid__> !kernel | DJG9282
[20:24] <SpeS> ok flaccid__ sorry :)
[20:24] <Manabu> I think i will try smplayer
[20:25] <flaccid__> SlimeyPete, if wmv doesn't render correctly then thats pretty much how it is on linux. its a closed microsoft codec
[20:25] <Rambytes> NickPresta: Ok thanks.... and just to be sure, where I need to go to install a new theme?
[20:25] <SlimeyPete> flaccid__: yeah, I know.
[20:25] <SlimeyPete> I avoid it like the plague, personally
[20:25] <SlimeyPete> but I imagine it's annoying if you have a wmv-enabled camera or video playback device.
[20:26] <DJG9282> flaccid_: i was instructed by linmodems.org that the modem that i have does not work with the kernal on my system and has only worked on a kernal with a different version
[20:26] <flaccid__> DJG9282, we dont help with recompiling kernels but you can follow the guides
[20:26] <DJG9282> ok thanks
[20:27] <NickPresta> Rambytes, unpack the archive (right click on the tar.gz package and select Extract Here. Then, open up a Konsole and change to the extracted directory (cd kde_xp_full-1.3) then run: chmod +x install-usr.sh && ./install-usr.sh
[20:28] <Agent_bob> The_ManU_212 no no.  what i mean is, that if your windows system is compromised and someone puts malusious code in a file on the vfat then you boot linux  you might execute something that you didn't know was there.
[20:28] <flaccid__> Agent_bob, not possible on linux unless its run in wine under root and can do stuff..
[20:29] <Rambytes> NickPresta: Forget about this theme..... I will not install it
[20:29] <alucardromero> I was just about to say, how is that possible?
[20:30] <Rambytes> NickPresta: But just tell me where to go to install a theme from the desktop of kubuntu
[20:30] <flaccid__> and even then its not going to do much at all if that occurs because its unix filesystem and not windows. it aint going to translate an absolute c:\stuffthisup.exe to /stuffthisup.exe then run under wine. it just doesn't happen... thus why noexec is meaningless most of the time :)
[20:30] <Rambytes> NickPresta: from the K menu!
[20:31] <NickPresta> Rambytes, press Alt+F2, type in "kcontrol". Then go to Appearance and Themes. There is a Theme Manager section
[20:31] <Agent_bob> flaccid_ yes possable.  you would need all the convo to see the issue.    question was about executing things stored on vfat
[20:31] <flaccid__> Agent_bob, yes i helped initially and advised.
[20:32] <vitviper> this sucks
[20:32] <flaccid__> you do realise the virus would have to call wine amongst the other things i mentioned in both cases?
[20:32] <vitviper> for some reason the WoW installer crashes on my PC in Wine
[20:32] <vitviper> but ran just fine on my laptop
[20:32] <flaccid__> vitviper, i don't recommend doing the installer method for WoW
[20:32] <vitviper> ?
[20:33] <flaccid__> !wow
[20:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> Agent_bob: i got a response on that dd bug
[20:33] <Rambytes> NickPresta: THKS!!!
[20:34] <flaccid__> vitviper, from the above link there should be a WoW page. you want to not use the installer method and instead copy or use another method. i've never installed wow under wine succesfully. i copy and edit the *.wtf files
[20:34] <Agent_bob> Daisuke_Laptop yeah ?
[20:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> Agent_bob: yeah, the bug's invalid
[20:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> Agent_bob: dd if=/dev/scd0 of=~/new.iso conv=noerror
[20:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> the conv= part is what we both missed
[20:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> (mainly because it's never mentioned, i don't think
[20:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> )
[20:36] <Agent_bob> Daisuke_Laptop hmmmm    revisiting the manual now...
[20:36] <Daisuke_Laptop>  conv=CONVS
[20:36] <Daisuke_Laptop>               convert the file as per the comma separated symbol list
[20:37] <Daisuke_Laptop> yeah, it's mentioned, i feel like an idiot now :)
[20:37] <Rambytes> This is my second question: in my laptop, I have a "endless" wheel to control my volume. The problem is I only have 6 positions: 0% - 19% - 41% - 63% - 83% - 100%. What can I do to have "more" position? (example, raise or drop the volume by 5%, not 20%!)
[20:38] <Agent_bob> Daisuke_Laptop i see the problem.  it's a formating issue in the manual page.  there is no step for the list of conv symbols    so they do not appear to be a subset
[20:38] <Daisuke_Laptop> right
[20:38] <Agent_bob> so the bug is actually in the man page.  and should be filed there   i guess
[20:39] <Agent_bob> Daisuke_Laptop you are no less an idiot than i on that one.     (not that that will make you feel any better)
[20:39] <Daisuke_Laptop> Agent_bob: actually it does make me feel better - you've been doing this a lot longer than i have :D
[20:40]  * Agent_bob wonders how being an idiot longer helps  ? ! * & ?
[20:43] <jaakkome> I'm still having some trouble with qtparted
[20:44] <flaccid__> jaakkome, wish i could help. fdisk might be a good option if you have problems
[20:45] <Rambytes> I've start Konversation one and now, each time I reboot Kubuntu, Konversation start.... where I can go to stop this application to start each time?
[20:46] <nosrednaekim> Rambytes: systemsettings->advanced->session manager
[20:47] <jaakkome> fdisk doesn't seem to identify my existing partitions
[20:47] <Rambytes> nosrednaekim: run a empty session?
[20:48] <nosrednaekim> Rambytes:  yep
[20:48] <jaakkome> also, it shows the size to be 100.0 GB, which is too small
[20:48] <Rambytes> nosrednaekim: brb i will try
[20:54] <Rambytes> nosrednaekim: Yeah! You're a great!!!
[20:54] <nosrednaekim> :P
[20:55] <Rambytes> nosrednaekim: and now, how to start MY application automaticly??
[21:03] <mary_> ciao
[21:03] <Rambytes> How can I start automaticly a application when I boot in Kubuntu?
[21:03] <nosrednaekim> !autostart
[21:04] <gdss> hi mary_
[21:05] <gdss> what are you looking for?
[21:05] <mary_> sorry this is my firs time in Konvrsation
[21:10] <mary_> bye
[21:14] <drurew> can someone  help me with this compilation error please :http://paste.ubuntu.com/18562/
[21:14] <drurew> i am attempting qt tool kit ....per this how to ...http://www.zetcode.com/articles/qt4/
[21:15] <drurew> is there perhaps an easyer way to do this then source code...is there no apt-get for the qt toolkit?
[21:17] <flaccid__> drurew, i'll check it out brb
[21:18] <zp34> someone know how open flv files whit kdenlive?
[21:18] <nicolas> tg
[21:19] <nicolas> Hilter
[21:20] <BluesKaj> zp34, vlc will open them
[21:21] <jaakkome> I created a new ext2 partition (finally). How can I switch it's ownership from root to my username?
[21:22] <flaccid__> drurew, what are your actual requirements qt wise?
[21:22] <stdin> jaakkome: mount it somewhere and do "sudo chown username: /place/you/mounted/it"
[21:22] <zp34> yes , but i ned edit them
[21:23] <drurew> flaccid__:. im trying to build a desktop widget and i came across this tool kit as an option
[21:23] <flaccid__> jaakkome, uid option in fstab entry
[21:23] <jaakkome> great, thanks chown was the command I was looking for
[21:23] <jaakkome> hmmm
[21:24] <flaccid__> drurew, yes but what version of qt do you need and which files - libs/dev ?
[21:25] <drurew> flaccid__: i have both ..4.4 & 3.3.....i had hoped for the more up to date but i am not really sure what i need _:D
[21:25] <flaccid__> drurew, there is your problem. 4.4 is the up to date.
[21:25] <flaccid__> check what you need exactly before asking :)
[21:26] <drurew> : ) k sorry man
[21:26] <flaccid__> np
[21:26] <drurew> i think ...well this is the problematic compilation error:
[21:26] <drurew> moc.y: In function ‘int yyparse()’:
[21:26] <drurew> moc.y:908: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’
[21:27] <stdin> that's a warning, not an error
[21:27] <drurew> am i maybe missing a lib ?
[21:27] <flaccid__> drurew, where does it actually fail
[21:27] <drurew> perhaps runing the 3.3 may work better?
[21:28] <drurew> one sec
[21:28] <zp34> in ubuntu kdenlivecan edit flv files , but un kubuntu no,  ithink ned a plugin for that
[21:28] <drurew> at make
[21:28] <drurew> kernel/qt_x11_p.h:69:22: error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
[21:28] <stdin> !xlibs
[21:29] <drurew> stdin: wicked sweet dude
[21:29] <drurew> thanks
[21:34] <mooper> does kubuntu not like usb2?
[21:34] <drurew> mooper: it lot ves i
[21:35] <drurew> *it loves it
[21:35] <drurew> ;)
[21:35] <mooper> drurew: kubuntu 7.10?
[21:35] <drurew> mooper: well sure why shouldnt it
[21:35] <mooper> ca I have just plugged in a disk and it is very slow :(
[21:35] <drurew> whats the trouble
[21:35] <mooper> Im sure its usb 1
[21:35] <drurew> yeah .... is it like a "smart*" disk ?
[21:36] <drurew> oh well then theres your prob
[21:36] <flaccid__> how are you sure?
[21:36] <mooper> I dunno, its some maxtor 400GB thingy
[21:36] <mooper> Im not sure
[21:37] <drurew> maybe the port is a usb 1
[21:37] <flaccid__> hmm that doesn't sound sure. check dmesg and /var/log/messages for potential problems/errors
[21:37] <drurew> but the hd is prob usb 2
[21:37] <flaccid__> hard disks dont use usb
[21:37] <mooper> the port is DEF usb2
[21:37] <mooper> its a 1 yr old dell lappy
[21:37] <flaccid__> mooper, and how did you come to this conclusion?
[21:38] <drurew> flaccid__: you could do some hard disk acceleration
[21:38] <mooper> flaccid__: cos the drive access is so slow
[21:38] <flaccid__> mooper, thats not a conclusion.
[21:38] <gdss> what's the best tv show? lost?
[21:38] <flaccid__> drurew, err like what
[21:38] <flaccid__> !ot | gdss
[21:38] <drurew> wait a sec
[21:38] <flaccid__> !best > gdsss
[21:38] <flaccid__> !best > gdsss
[21:38] <flaccid__> !best > gdss
[21:39] <mooper> okay, well how do I check what usb version devices are bieing connected as
[21:39] <flaccid__> why try to accelerate something that is apparently under performing :)
[21:39] <jaakkome> I want to share my new partition to our local network. Is there a reason why I should use NFS instead of Samba?
[21:39] <zp34>  someone know how open for edit  flv files whit kdenlive?
 hmm that doesn't sound sure. check dmesg and /var/log/messages for potential problems/errors
[21:40] <drurew> yeah thats probly right there flacid
[21:40] <flaccid__> jaakkome, no.
[21:40] <FoxII> I'm running kubuntu with no internet (don't ask) where can I find out what I need in terms of packages to play a dvd?
[21:40] <basy> Is there any way to setup shorcut key for "Duplicate current line" in kate or katepart ? plz?
[21:40] <mooper> flaccid__: I did allready but could see nothing abvious
[21:40] <flaccid__> maybe its running fine then
[21:41] <mooper> but it is so slow
[21:41] <drurew> !hdparm
[21:41] <flaccid__> !dvd | FoxII
[21:41] <mooper> It is working fine just not as usb2
[21:41] <drurew> hmmm that must be a gentoo thing only
[21:41] <flaccid__> mooper, how do you know that usb2 is not working?
[21:41] <FoxII> cool. Thanks flaccid & ubottu.
[21:42] <mooper> flaccid__	cos it is working at 12 mb/s not 480 mb/s
[21:43] <mooper> I have been trying to copy a couple of GB of data to it for what seems like a week
[21:43] <flaccid__> doesn't conclude that usb 2.0 is not working at all moooper
[21:44] <drurew> mooper: do other devices function at average speed via the same port?
[21:45] <mooper> drurew: Im just testing
[21:45] <flaccid__> im off ciao
[21:45] <mooper> drurew: actually I have a usb flash disk an I can write data to that at 5.8 MB/s
[21:46] <drurew> mooper: i have an external hard drive which i would like to tweak to have fast writing read speed....it has an inbuilt function to "stop" speeds at what is called a "smart"setting
[21:46] <Nyad> I want to install the restricted driver manager. when I type this: sudo apt-get install restricted-manager-kde && kdesudo restricted-manager-kde
[21:46] <Nyad> it tell me
[21:46] <Nyad> Package restricted-manager-kde is a virtual package provided by:
[21:46] <Nyad>   jockey-kde 0.3.3-0ubuntu8
[21:46] <Nyad> You should explicitly select one to install.
[21:47] <drurew> another option to test you settings would be to check the speed in an alternative system
[21:47] <Colonel_Panic> is there anything I can do to fix this compiz system tray bug?
[21:48] <solo2365> QUESTION!: Ive went to a Java install page and the listings they have for linux are | Linux Self extracting RPM and Linux Self extracting | Kubuntu dosent use the RPM correct ??
[21:48] <Pennycook> solo2365: Correct.  You can install java6 through Adept, though.
[21:49] <solo2365> ok thanks
[21:51] <taozen> una consulta
[21:51] <drurew> !es
[21:53] <eagles0513875> hola para todos
[21:53] <eagles0513875> hey all
[21:54] <solo2365> What is the package called for java? when i search i get alot.. can can you PM this answer to me?? im back and forth to another PC in the other room
[21:54] <speeddemon24> please, if you plan on speaking spanish go to a spanish channel. its hard if you dont speak spanish to understand.
[21:56] <eagles0513875> speeddemon24: i speak english
[21:56] <eagles0513875> first language
[21:57] <solo2365> ok n/m i had to search (Java 6) insted of just (java or java6) to get the correct search responce
[21:57] <speeddemon24> no i meant those spanish speakers
[21:57] <eagles0513875> oh
[21:57] <eagles0513875> lol
[21:57] <drurew> "ese"
[21:57] <drurew> right ??
[21:58] <drurew> dont hit me i dont know what that means :/
[21:58] <engineer> solo2365 sun-java6-bin
[21:58] <eagles0513875> drurew: lol
[21:58] <calcmandan> trying to backup a game cd to an ISO, and k3b is reporting that it can only copy CD-Extra mixed mode CD's.  Is this accurate or am I missing a plugin?
[22:01] <Nyad> kubuntu keeps trying to install 169.x version of the nvidia drivers, I want the 173.x drivers
[22:02] <engineer> dependencies
[22:02] <engineer> mixing repositories
[22:03] <drurew> Nyad: how new is 173.x
[22:03] <drurew> it may not be in the reps yet ...how bout compilation ?
[22:03] <drurew> *source code
[22:03] <Colonel_Panic> I'm having  a problem with my system tray icons showing up on my desktop instead
[22:04] <Nyad> drurew: it's proprietary drivers
[22:05] <matteo_> buona sera a tutti
[22:05] <Colonel_Panic> Kopete will not log me  on to the IM networks, either
[22:05] <calcmandan> anyone konw a good cd ripping software that'll do mixed mode ripping? k3b won't work for a particular disc of mine.
[22:05] <eagles0513875> ciao matteo_
[22:05] <Colonel_Panic> why it's dong this, I dunno
[22:05] <eagles0513875> !it | matteo_
[22:05] <Colonel_Panic> it's been happening since I upgraded
[22:05] <matteo_> tnks eagles
[22:06] <eagles0513875> no problem
[22:06] <Colonel_Panic> how can I log on to the IM networks in Kopete?
[22:06] <eagles0513875> Colonel_Panic: thats the problem with upgrading you end up running into problems like you got
[22:07] <eagles0513875> Colonel_Panic: its like pidgin
[22:07] <Colonel_Panic> I had the system tray icon problem before I upgraded, and people in here told me that upgrading would fix that
[22:07] <Colonel_Panic> so what should I do?
[22:07] <Colonel_Panic> uninstall Kopete?
[22:08] <eagles0513875> Colonel_Panic: thing with upgrading that pkgs from previous version to newer version change or are removed etc
[22:08] <eagles0513875> Colonel_Panic: purge it reinstall
[22:08] <Colonel_Panic> and what about this system tray issue?
[22:08] <eagles0513875> Colonel_Panic: not sure about that
[22:09] <hakxis> como habro conversacion en español??
[22:09] <matteo_> my first day with linux....my first day in kubuntu
[22:10] <eagles0513875> !es | hakxis
[22:10] <hakxis> gracias
[22:10] <eagles0513875> de nada
[22:11] <eagles0513875> night all
[22:11] <svenb> can someone tell me how to get the nvidia driver to work?
[22:11] <Nyad> yeah, If I download it off nvidia site can I install it in single user mode?
[22:12] <svenb> the installation can also be done by adept
[22:12] <svenb> the correct xorg.conf is the problem
[22:14] <Nyad> so how do I install it, that restricted driver manager only has the old 169 drivers and not the new 173 series of drivers
[22:15] <svenb> i dont know about the series
[22:15] <The_ManU_212> hi
[22:15] <The_ManU_212> i use standby and configured it like in a ubuntu wiki, but it works sometimes, and sometimes not
[22:15] <The_ManU_212> why?
[22:18] <hakxis> eagles me puedes ayudar porfavor ?
[22:18] <SlimeyPete> !portuguese
[22:18] <SlimeyPete> !spanish
[22:19] <drurew> how can i  edit the .profile file
[22:19] <drurew> i need to add PATH=/usr/local/qt4/bin:$PATH
[22:20] <drurew> my brain must not be working today :(
[22:22] <Paco_Paco> How can i improve font rendering in Kubuntu?
[22:24] <iCEifer> hello, does kubuntu offer something similar to ubuntu's synpatic package manager? I can't find something like that on the Live CD
[22:30] <engineer> iCEifer adept
[22:31] <engineer> Paco_Paco install your graphics card drivers
[22:33] <heinkel_111> !encryption
[22:33] <heinkel_111> bah
[22:33] <engineer> !md5
[22:33] <heinkel_111> anyone got some good reading on how to encrypt partitions on harddisks? I've got a new laptop and need to secure it a little
[22:34] <The_ManU_212> i use standby and configured it like in a ubuntu wiki, but it works sometimes, and sometimes not
[22:34] <The_ManU_212> why?
[22:42] <mr--t> heinkel_113: http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/security/
[22:42] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[22:42] <doktoreas> I have got some troubles connecting to my fon wifi spot
[22:42] <doktoreas> knetworkmanager stays always on the "getting ip"
[22:42] <doktoreas> is there a way for debugging it?
[22:43] <doktoreas> using wifi with other network works fine
[22:45] <heinkel_113> mr--t: thank you...i am reading up :)
[22:45] <Walzmyn> When did debian switch to gnome as the default install?
[22:45] <mr--t> np
[22:45] <SlimeyPete> Walzmyn: many years ago I think
[22:45]  * mr--t thinks it was a wednesday....
[22:46] <Walzmyn> SlimeyPete, been a long time since I attempted an install, I just made a virtual machine and was supprised to find Ga-Nome
[22:46] <SlimeyPete> Walzmyn: I first used Debian five years ago and Gnome was default then.
[22:46] <Walzmyn> And somewhat dissapointed
[22:47] <Walzmyn> SlimeyPete, hmm. maybe i'm not remembering correctly - it has been at least that long for me as well
[22:49] <grendal_prime> my spell checker is whack how do i turn it on for all of kde?
[22:53] <grendal_prime> grrrrr
[22:53] <grendal_prime> spellchecker
[22:53] <grendal_prime> !aspell
[22:54] <grendal_prime> !spellcheck
[22:54] <mr--t> grendal_prime: system settings regional and language spell checker
[22:54] <heinkel_113> mr--t: the nice looking webpage had an old (2004, 2.4 kernel) how-to :(
[22:55] <mr--t>  :-(
[22:57] <mr--t> heinkel_113: http://www.linux.com/articles/36596    how bout here
[22:57] <jussi01> !info aspell | grendal_prime
[22:59] <mr--t> jussi01:  ihave that option is settings as listed above
[23:00] <mr--t> in^
[23:00] <monkeybritches> Is there a way of getting Konqueror to synch/refresh the tree pane on the left when navigating folders in the right?
[23:04] <deamon3> http://www.indianz.ch/toolslnxe.html
[23:05] <The_ManU_212> i use standby and configured it like in a ubuntu wiki, but it works sometimes, and sometimes not
[23:08] <monkeybritches> Was that in regards to my question about Konqueror?
[23:10] <monkeybritches> Or maybe a better question is, can anyone recommend a file manager better than Konqueror?
[23:10] <monkeybritches> Of course that's subjective...
[23:11] <ece_> Lütfen yardım...
[23:11] <ece_> türkçe bilen yok mu?
[23:13] <ece_> TÜRK YOK MU?..........,
[23:13] <NickPresta> ece_, what language?
[23:13] <ece_> Turkish
[23:13] <monkeybritches> !tk
[23:14] <ece_> ok
[23:14] <NickPresta> !tr | ece_
[23:14] <ece_>  thank yuo...
[23:14] <ece_> :(
[23:14] <monkeybritches> Ah...
[23:17] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know how to unlock a cd drive that got locked while trying to write something to it with k3b?
[23:20] <Exilant> anyone using kopete with the kopetex plugin working or the crypto plugin working?
[23:29] <heinkel_113> for all the fanciness of kde 4 i still get teh olde kde3 konversation....
[23:33] <engineer> heinkel_111 some apps are yet to be ported
[23:33] <heinkel_111> seems like that :)
[23:34] <heinkel_111> heinkel_111 = dekstop, heinkel_113 is laptop i am configuring now
[23:34] <heinkel_111> in case that confused people a little...
[23:35] <engineer> do you live in colorado?
[23:35] <heinkel_113> who me?
[23:35] <jussi01> heinkel_111: you may want to check out quassel
[23:36] <engineer> yeah
[23:36] <heinkel_113>  engineer: nope
[23:36] <jussi01> heinkel_111: http://quassel-irc.org/
[23:40]  * genii hands out coffees
[23:40] <heinkel_111> thankses!
[23:49] <engineer> !universe
[23:49] <engineer> !universe > solo5639_2
[23:51] <Colonel_Panic> can somebody please help me with these problems I'm having?
[23:51] <Colonel_Panic> first of all, Kopete won't connect. I've tried uninstalling it, but it apparently won't uninstall
[23:51] <genii> Stating the nature of the problem may help in assesing what might be the solution to it
[23:52] <Colonel_Panic> I have stated the problems I've been having all day
[23:52] <Colonel_Panic> all day, eve
[23:52] <mooper> If something is asking fr a password is there any way to provide that password in a bash script
[23:52] <Colonel_Panic> before I even upgraded to Hardy
[23:52] <Colonel_Panic> first of all
[23:53] <Colonel_Panic> my system tray icos appear on the desktop every time I log in
[23:53] <Colonel_Panic> 2nd, Kopete will not connect to any IM servers
[23:53] <Exilant> mooper: depends on the program
[23:54] <genii> Colonel_Panic: kde3 or kde4 ?
[23:54] <Exilant> Colonel_Panic: some guy named gladier reported the same in #kopete
[23:54] <Exilant> although he's using gentoo
[23:54] <Colonel_Panic> that's not me
[23:54] <Colonel_Panic> I'm using Kubuntu
[23:54] <deamon3> someone here have BACKTRACK ?¿
[23:54] <Colonel_Panic> I had this problem with the damn system tray and people in here told me that upgrading would fix it
[23:55] <Colonel_Panic> well guess what?
[23:55] <Colonel_Panic> Id didn't, and now I have even more problems
[23:55] <Colonel_Panic> why can I not uninstall Kopete?
[23:56] <Colonel_Panic> why won't it connect automatically?
[23:56] <Haza> Evening folks. What tool would you recommend for mounting a .iso?
[23:56] <Colonel_Panic> is there a way to manually cxonnect it to the networks?
[23:56] <Exilant> right klick on the network yo want to connect
[23:56] <Exilant> choose online
[23:57] <Colonel_Panic> does  nothing
[23:57] <Exilant> hm, maybe kwallet again?
[23:57] <nohelphere> do you find ti weird that adept tried ot remove everythign includign itself?
[23:58] <nohelphere> adept tried to remove EVERYTHIGN it rmeoved itself
[23:58] <Colonel_Panic> well, Kwallet has been eff'd up since all this crap with the system tray started
[23:58] <Exilant> Colonel_Panic: try it if you specify the password explicitly in kopete
[23:58] <keaton> Greets, #kubuntu. I'm having a minor issue with Dolphin, it gives me this error every time I close a window: http://pastebin.com/d78124a2
[23:58] <Colonel_Panic> theres no option to do that
[23:58] <Colonel_Panic> who do I do that?
[23:58] <Colonel_Panic> *how*
[23:59] <nohelphere> all I did wa sinstall ncurses libraries
[23:59] <keaton> My hard drive isn't full, and it most certainly isn't just saying it once. Other than that, it operates perfectly, I just want the message gone.
[23:59] <Colonel_Panic> first of all, how do I fix this damn problem with the system tray icons showing up i the desktop?
[23:59] <nohelphere> i think it remove dphp and al my othe rimportant stuff