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smallfoot-HEEEEEEEEELP BRAINSTORM IS BROKEN00:34
Picismallfoot-: log a bug then: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website00:37
tretlewhens ubuntu.net going up for testing?00:39
smallfoot-tretle, what is ubuntu.net?01:32
tretlethe online desktop blueprint for intrepid02:41
mneresonHI. I have an ubuntu webserver ed with php, mysql, apache, a couple of wordpress blogs. Suddenly tonight, the pc shuts down every 5 minutes. Is there someplace I can look for why?04:09
crimsun/var/log/syslog04:10
mneresoncrimsun thanks. any ideas as to why all of a sudden this could happen. I have not changed any thing on the server in weeks04:11
crimsunmnereson: hardware failure, software misconfiguration, ... - there are quite a few possibilities.04:15
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bri-hdumb question - is there an easy way to go from hardy to intrepid alpha without reinstalling from a cd?04:57
crimsunsure04:57
Luckriderthere is a terminal command, I just don't kno wit04:57
crimsunyou just need to update your apt cache, update, and {dist,full}-upgrade04:57
Luckrider*know it04:57
crimsunthere are a couple methods of updating your apt cache; the easiest is probably modifying /etc/apt/sources.list directly and changing all "hardy" references to "intrepid"04:58
DanaGcrimsun: random bug I found in PulseAudio: the app 'extace' (a cool spectrum analyzer thingy that uses the esound compatibility) kills the server when the app exits.05:00
DanaGSomehow, it actually makes pulseaudio segfault.05:00
bri-hafter i do that, do I just apt-get -update05:00
crimsunerr, that's a bug in extace05:00
crimsungranted, PA can be made more robust05:00
crimsunthat's exactly the same as pavucontrol making pulseaudio sigsegv05:00
DanaGOh yeah, and why does pavumeter not have a "choose a device" dropdown?  That seems a bit silly to me.05:06
crimsunthe gui tools are being overhauled05:06
Qsterthere a place to see what is going to be added in intrepid?05:07
DanaGOh yeah, I made myself a udev rule to automatically unload snd-emu10k1 when I yank the card.  Now I don't have to worry about OOPSes or Panics.05:12
crimsunerr, it's still oopsing?05:13
DanaGI had this behavior before I made the udev rule:05:13
DanaGInsert card: it works.  Remove card: it's fine.  Insert card again: OOPS.  Remove card again: Panic.05:13
DanaGOddly enough, it seems like PulseAudio is only sometimes able to grab the surround51 device.05:14
crimsunlikely a config issue for the latter one05:20
DanaGIt'll sometimes say something about the device being busy, or refusing parameters, or something.05:26
bri-hwell here goes - rebooting with intrepid alpha for the first time - if you hear don't hear from me in a few minutes I guess it didn't work05:26
crimsunright, I uncovered a lot of those trying to chase down 192888.05:26
G_009!intrepid05:26
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex | Warning lots of breaking software and other good stuff  between now and October!05:26
crimsunI'll probably just reorder the entire default.pa in my branch.05:27
DanaGAah, the Flash bug.05:28
crimsunwhich is fixed in intrepid.05:28
crimsunit's intractable for hardy*, unfortunately.05:29
DanaGWhat's the fix in Intrepid?  There were several proposed solutions.05:29
DanaGAah, Flash 10.05:30
WorkingOnWise1is obex push and a2dp bluetooth going to get some serious attention in Intrepid?05:30
crimsunwe have a fixed Flash 10 beta, and we've gone with libasound2-plugins05:30
G_009how about that link to download05:30
crimsunI'm pushing to drop libflashsupport entirely05:30
bri-hlooks like it worked05:30
crimsunmuch of that work is ongoing in my bzr branches of alsa-*, pulseaudio, and flashplugin-nonfree05:31
G_009i always start on beta anyways..05:35
* G_009 chuckles05:35
bri-hwoohoo - running intrepid alpha and all's well05:54
bri-hI expected more excitement06:00
Qster!06:00
crimsunprobably due to $time_of_day06:00
bri-hrgr06:05
bri-hGood night all --  uname -a06:27
bri-hLinux brian-laptop 2.6.24-17-generic #1 SMP Thu May 1 13:57:17 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux06:27
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nekostarwould generating an rsa key on a system thats not had the ssh packages updated via this method: http://osmirror.mirrors.phpclasses.org/browse/package/4121.html generate a vulnerable key?10:14
RAOFnekostar: I'd guess the answer to be "yes", but since that site wants me to login before I can actually look at anything I can't check.10:19
RAOFnekostar: If it uses the openssh libs, yes.  Of course, you could just create a key and see if it's vulnerable.10:20
nekostaryeh10:23
nekostarare the php libs enough to create the key themselves?10:23
nekostaror do they need to use a system lib at some point typically?10:23
RAOFnekostar: They'll almost certainly use a system library at some point.  Writing cryptography routines is _hard10:39
RAOFSo they either use system libs, or you probably should'nt trust them :)10:39
nekostaryeah10:42
nekostarthat was what i'm thinking10:42
JiaQinHi,everyone,can I ask some question about ubuntu 8.04 here?11:16
JiaQinI want to use the tool "Password and Encryption Keys" to generate keys, but I can not finish the process. When promote me to input passphrase, it hangs up.11:18
JiaQinWho knows why?11:19
OslaoHi13:24
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MarcoHello.  Just how "pre-alpha" is intrepid?15:53
Marcolike debian sid, or more unstable?15:53
danbhfiveI think the first alpha comes out next week15:54
Marcodanbhfive, would you say it's more or less unstable than debian unstable?15:54
danbhfiveMarco: er, it means its broken15:55
gnomefreakits more unstable than sid15:55
gnomefreakmore unstable than experimental debian atm15:55
Marcognomefreak, heh15:55
gnomefreakplease dont go by the release date of alphas to determine if its safe or not15:55
gnomefreakseeing as theres alot of broken packages atm it may not release without first fixing them15:56
mneresonHi. my server edition started shutting down at 20 past the hour yesterday. I checked sys log and it looks like there is some hourly cron job running that results in a shutdown16:29
mneresonhow can I check out the hourly jobs?16:29
zaggy-nlcrontab16:31
zaggy-nlhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto <- mnereson16:32
amikropAre there any similar instructions to these https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm but for Intrepid (even for Hardy)?19:27
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amikrop_Are there any similar instructions to these https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm for Intrepid (even for Hardy)?20:32
amikropAre there any similar instructions for Intrepid (or even for Hardy)? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm20:38
timinghey wouldn't it be nice to add a shotdown after upgrade function thing to the update manager?23:12
timing*shutdown23:12

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