[00:34] HEEEEEEEEELP BRAINSTORM IS BROKEN [00:37] smallfoot-: log a bug then: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qa-website [00:39] whens ubuntu.net going up for testing? [01:32] tretle, what is ubuntu.net? [02:41] the online desktop blueprint for intrepid [04:09] HI. I have an ubuntu webserver ed with php, mysql, apache, a couple of wordpress blogs. Suddenly tonight, the pc shuts down every 5 minutes. Is there someplace I can look for why? [04:10] /var/log/syslog [04:11] crimsun thanks. any ideas as to why all of a sudden this could happen. I have not changed any thing on the server in weeks [04:15] mnereson: hardware failure, software misconfiguration, ... - there are quite a few possibilities. === jacob is now known as jacob[vacation] === cowbud is now known as cowbud2 [04:57] dumb question - is there an easy way to go from hardy to intrepid alpha without reinstalling from a cd? [04:57] sure [04:57] there is a terminal command, I just don't kno wit [04:57] you just need to update your apt cache, update, and {dist,full}-upgrade [04:57] *know it [04:58] there are a couple methods of updating your apt cache; the easiest is probably modifying /etc/apt/sources.list directly and changing all "hardy" references to "intrepid" [05:00] crimsun: random bug I found in PulseAudio: the app 'extace' (a cool spectrum analyzer thingy that uses the esound compatibility) kills the server when the app exits. [05:00] Somehow, it actually makes pulseaudio segfault. [05:00] after i do that, do I just apt-get -update [05:00] err, that's a bug in extace [05:00] granted, PA can be made more robust [05:00] that's exactly the same as pavucontrol making pulseaudio sigsegv [05:06] Oh yeah, and why does pavumeter not have a "choose a device" dropdown? That seems a bit silly to me. [05:06] the gui tools are being overhauled [05:07] there a place to see what is going to be added in intrepid? [05:12] Oh yeah, I made myself a udev rule to automatically unload snd-emu10k1 when I yank the card. Now I don't have to worry about OOPSes or Panics. [05:13] err, it's still oopsing? [05:13] I had this behavior before I made the udev rule: [05:13] Insert card: it works. Remove card: it's fine. Insert card again: OOPS. Remove card again: Panic. [05:14] Oddly enough, it seems like PulseAudio is only sometimes able to grab the surround51 device. [05:20] likely a config issue for the latter one [05:26] It'll sometimes say something about the device being busy, or refusing parameters, or something. [05:26] well here goes - rebooting with intrepid alpha for the first time - if you hear don't hear from me in a few minutes I guess it didn't work [05:26] right, I uncovered a lot of those trying to chase down 192888. [05:26] !intrepid [05:26] Alpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex | Warning lots of breaking software and other good stuff between now and October! [05:27] I'll probably just reorder the entire default.pa in my branch. [05:28] Aah, the Flash bug. [05:28] which is fixed in intrepid. [05:29] it's intractable for hardy*, unfortunately. [05:29] What's the fix in Intrepid? There were several proposed solutions. [05:30] Aah, Flash 10. [05:30] is obex push and a2dp bluetooth going to get some serious attention in Intrepid? [05:30] we have a fixed Flash 10 beta, and we've gone with libasound2-plugins [05:30] how about that link to download [05:30] I'm pushing to drop libflashsupport entirely [05:30] looks like it worked [05:31] much of that work is ongoing in my bzr branches of alsa-*, pulseaudio, and flashplugin-nonfree [05:35] i always start on beta anyways.. [05:35] * G_009 chuckles [05:54] woohoo - running intrepid alpha and all's well [06:00] I expected more excitement [06:00] ! [06:00] probably due to $time_of_day [06:05] rgr [06:27] Good night all -- uname -a [06:27] Linux brian-laptop 2.6.24-17-generic #1 SMP Thu May 1 13:57:17 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux === evalles_ is now known as effie_jayx [10:14] would generating an rsa key on a system thats not had the ssh packages updated via this method: http://osmirror.mirrors.phpclasses.org/browse/package/4121.html generate a vulnerable key? [10:19] nekostar: I'd guess the answer to be "yes", but since that site wants me to login before I can actually look at anything I can't check. [10:20] nekostar: If it uses the openssh libs, yes. Of course, you could just create a key and see if it's vulnerable. [10:23] yeh [10:23] are the php libs enough to create the key themselves? [10:23] or do they need to use a system lib at some point typically? [10:39] nekostar: They'll almost certainly use a system library at some point. Writing cryptography routines is _hard [10:39] So they either use system libs, or you probably should'nt trust them :) [10:42] yeah [10:42] that was what i'm thinking [11:16] Hi,everyone,can I ask some question about ubuntu 8.04 here? [11:18] I want to use the tool "Password and Encryption Keys" to generate keys, but I can not finish the process. When promote me to input passphrase, it hangs up. [11:19] Who knows why? [13:24] Hi === Oslao is now known as Os555 === marko_ is now known as marko === marko is now known as marko-_- [15:53] Hello. Just how "pre-alpha" is intrepid? [15:53] like debian sid, or more unstable? [15:54] I think the first alpha comes out next week [15:54] danbhfive, would you say it's more or less unstable than debian unstable? [15:55] Marco: er, it means its broken [15:55] its more unstable than sid [15:55] more unstable than experimental debian atm [15:55] gnomefreak, heh [15:55] please dont go by the release date of alphas to determine if its safe or not [15:56] seeing as theres alot of broken packages atm it may not release without first fixing them [16:29] Hi. my server edition started shutting down at 20 past the hour yesterday. I checked sys log and it looks like there is some hourly cron job running that results in a shutdown [16:29] how can I check out the hourly jobs? [16:31] crontab [16:32] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto <- mnereson [19:27] Are there any similar instructions to these https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm but for Intrepid (even for Hardy)? === nickrud is now known as nikrud [20:32] Are there any similar instructions to these https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm for Intrepid (even for Hardy)? [20:38] Are there any similar instructions for Intrepid (or even for Hardy)? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/ueagle-atm [23:12] hey wouldn't it be nice to add a shotdown after upgrade function thing to the update manager? [23:12] *shutdown