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randomshadowbm1how come i cant go past 800x600 in xubuntu?01:12
randomshadowbm1www.pastebin.ca/1041668 - my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file01:14
Genelykprobe driver vesa01:18
randomshadowbm1changed driver to vesa01:22
randomshadowbm1same error01:22
randomshadowbm1nv, nvidia, and vesa same error01:23
Genelykmmm01:23
Genelykuse cdlive xubuntu ,   and copy  xorg.conf  the cd  to  xubuntu installed01:24
randomshadowbm1i use 1280x1024 with my other computers on this monitor ( i have a kvm switch )01:24
randomshadowbm1i copied the xorg.conf file from the install of kubuntu from this01:25
randomshadowbm1and it didnt work01:25
randomshadowbm1the computer with kubuntu has nvidia geforce 8500 and this one has nvidia geforce 7600gs01:25
randomshadowbm1and they use the smae keyboard and mouse too cuz of the kvm switch01:25
randomshadowbm1xubuntu is on a pentium 4 2ghz with 256mb of ram01:26
randomshadowbm1and kubuntu is on a amd athlon 64 x2 5200 2.7ghz01:26
randomshadowbm1with 2gb of ram01:26
Genelykreinstalled  driver nvidia ?01:27
randomshadowbm1yeah01:27
randomshadowbm1im going to reg ubuntu if i cant get this fixed01:28
Genelykokz01:31
LinuxRules_883I'm having a problem going to the #ubuntu channel. Is there something wrong with it?03:13
The_KernelYeah LinuxRules_883, its too full03:26
konc3ptAnyone have problems with keyboard reapeating ... or delay?03:26
konc3pt-new install with 8.04, very newbie here...03:26
LinuxRules_883How do I get help with Wubi, its not working right?03:27
konc3pt Anyone have problems with keyboard reapeating ... or delay?03:29
konc3pt -new install with 8.04, very newbie here...03:29
LinuxRules_883I've never had problems with keyboard repeat or delay.03:29
konc3pthmmm, k thx03:30
LinuxRules_883Sorry, thats not much help.03:30
konc3ptNo, I appreciate teh reply :)03:30
konc3pt*the03:30
LinuxRules_883Anyone here know what wrong with Wubi? It starts to connect to the server twice and stops with the error "ERROR: ".03:31
konc3ptHmm some sort of error ;)03:31
konc3pthah...03:31
konc3ptsorry...03:31
LinuxRules_883yeah, just says error and nothing after the ":"03:31
konc3ptI was just being an ass, sort of.. :)03:31
LinuxRules_883i'm using crappy old vista and needed to switch to ubuntu without wiping windows out.03:32
LinuxRules_883np03:32
konc3ptSo... boot off the ubintu...xubuntu..kubuntu cd and install onanother partition if u have one.. the the boot manager.. loader.. whatever will do the rest03:33
konc3pt*then03:33
LinuxRules_883i'm just trying to install without cd03:33
konc3pto i c03:33
LinuxRules_883wubi can do it, but its not working right.03:33
LinuxRules_883or i dont know how to use it.03:33
konc3ptWhy dont u want ot use a cd?03:33
LinuxRules_883i just dont have one right now, the stores are closed03:34
konc3ptHeh, ahhh03:34
konc3ptKeyboard lagging... repeating.. cd-rom access whenever it feels like with no cd in the drive, cannot connect to my wireless network.... woot..03:35
LinuxRules_883thats sucks. I used to have the wireless problem with my Atheros card.03:36
konc3ptIt's a linksys, ona laptop.. thank god that isn;t my only machine..03:36
jimisrvroxtrying to install xubuntu and am getting an error Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-- depends--install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb03:52
simaHI How do i repair my package base? I get error: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2 (i am trying to remove xorg-driver-fglrx)03:58
comalhola04:51
comalcomo puedo añadir mas escritorios en xubuntu 8.04?04:52
comalhow can I add more desktop for my xubuntu hardy?04:56
cody-somervillemore desktop?04:57
comalI dont know english05:01
comaltry to understand please05:01
comalmore mmm, lados de escritorio05:01
comalxubuntu only come with 2 desktop05:02
comalmmm05:02
comalworksapce05:02
comalor, mmm05:02
The_Kernelcomal Settings -> Workspace -> Change the number from 2 to 405:07
jimisrvroxtrying to install xubuntu and am getting an error Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-- depends--install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb05:08
comal(04:07:15) The_Kernel: comal Settings -> Workspace -> Change the number from 2 to 4<<<-- I do that but dont work05:09
comalI always have a 2 workspace05:09
The_Kernelcomal have you restart xfce4 yet?05:10
The_Kernelctrl+alt+backspace05:10
comalThe_Kernel: no, before I have ubuntu, and the change was instant05:11
comalI try to restart05:11
comalthanks05:11
jimisrvroxhey kernel..ive been dealin with this stuff pretty much all day man05:11
jimisrvroxsame error05:11
dubwocwhose alive?05:55
The_Kerneljimisrvrox it appears that your disc is bad05:57
The_Kernelre download the ISO and burn it again05:57
The_Kernelrun a checksum05:57
jimisrvroxI ran the verify05:58
jimisrvroxand it said that it was cool05:58
jimisrvroxI had PCLinuxOS on there before and so somebody said it didnt matte rthat it cold overwirte it05:59
jimisrvroxit tells me before I try to install that it has some crap on there from previous installs05:59
The_Kerneljimisrvrox is this an alt cd or the live cd that you're trying to install from?06:00
jimisrvroxalt cd06:00
dubwocjimisrvrox good man06:00
The_KernelOK06:00
dubwoclets get this resolved06:00
jimisrvroxheh06:00
dubwocand the_kern is in da house06:00
jimisrvroxdubwoc has been helpin me all day here..06:01
The_KernelAre you at least able to get into the install portion?06:01
jimisrvroxhes all pissed about this install06:01
jimisrvroxit gets to installing the kernel base and then tells me crap06:01
jimisrvroxthat stuff up top that I had posted06:01
The_Kernelhave you been able to format the HDD's?06:01
jimisrvroxno all I did was overwrote xp with PCLinuxOS and then it was a crapper so I went and got Xubuntu06:02
jimisrvroxand dub here said it would overwrite the PC06:02
jimisrvroxbtw kern ima Linux n00b..Im tired of winblows06:04
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medflyhai guys. i'm trying to install xubuntu on my old (1999) laptop, and it always ends up showing me a blinking _ in the end, when i try to install.09:34
medflyi'm njot sure how to make it show me errors.09:37
nikolamwhat version of xubuntu, how much ram on machine, what it displays before "_", is it working something while displaying it, did you check your CD, did you set your compouter bios to boot from CD..09:37
medflyuhm... i got the most recent thing, 8.04, 64mb (or was it 128mb? ram), i did check my CD, it did boot from CD09:39
medflyand before that, it shows a graphical loading screen.09:39
nikolamdo you use alternate install CD?09:40
medflyno09:40
nikolamWith that amount of RAM (64mb) only alternate will work09:40
medflyi imagined it'd be slow, but not show a blinking _09:41
nikolamI suggest you to expand your ram if you can09:41
medflywell, its a laptop :/09:41
nikolamdesktop cd will NOT boot on that amount of ram09:41
nikolamlaptops can be expanded with ram, too09:41
nikolamI suggest you to even try alternate install, or expand your ram with ,again alternate install or you can try to use something like Damn small linux09:42
nikolamI have 2GB in machine and I still use alternate install CD for Xubuntu to install09:43
medflyuhmm... can i somehow check dmesg to see if all my devices work?09:44
nikolamCtrl+Alt+F2 for console09:51
nikolamBut try alternate cd or DSL or expland your ram09:51
medflyi can use DSL to expand my ram?09:51
nikolamDamnSmallLinux is a linux distribution, based on .deb packages, specially made for older computers with low amount of ram09:52
nikolamit should work on 64mb like a charm09:52
medflyoh... right09:52
nikolamalternate xubuntu should work on 64 mb but 128 mb is low end in practice09:53
medflyyeah, i just want something that supports connecting my laptop to the router by USB. plenty of things work :-)09:53
nikolamYou could also try Zenwalk Linux before reverting to DSL09:53
medflyalt+ctrl+f2 doesnt work..09:54
nikolamThere is not much difference between linux`es when supporting hardware. It`s just about implementation09:54
AlexCONRADhi, when I set "Enable Automatic Login" in xubuntu, in which file does it actually stores the data ?10:22
TheSheepAlexCONRAD: what data?10:22
TheSheepAlexCONRAD: configuration?10:23
AlexCONRADhello TheSheep, yes10:23
AlexCONRADI need to write this to disk during my automatic setup10:23
TheSheepin /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, afaik10:23
AlexCONRADthanks, i'll look for something here10:23
AlexCONRADah, the data is already here... I have to do some 'sed'10:25
AlexCONRADthanks again TheSheep10:25
jeannehello10:28
jeanneI am new to xubuntu and need your help_10:28
jeannedoes anyone of you know in which directory kpdf is located ?10:29
jeanneI want to set kpdf for opening of pdf-files, but I dont find its location.10:30
TheSheepxubuntu uses evince, not kpdf10:36
TheSheepit might be not installed10:36
jeannei have kpdf installed10:44
jeanneI will have a look if I have evince10:44
jeanneI have evince10:44
jeannedo you know where this program is located/which path does it have ?10:45
jeannewhen I click on pdf files in the webbrower it asks me with which program I want to open it10:46
jeanneand I dont know how to set it because I dont find its location10:46
* jeanne is new to linux...10:47
TheSheepopen a termin and type 'dpkg -L kpdf', that will list all files installed with that package10:47
TheSheepterminal10:47
jeanneok10:47
jeanne /.10:50
jeanne/usr/share10:50
jeanne/usr/share/doc10:50
jeanne/usr/share/doc/kpdf10:50
jeanne/usr/share/doc/kpdf/copyright10:50
jeanne/usr/share/doc/kpdf/changelog.Debian.gz10:50
jeanne/usr/share/doc/kde10:50
jeanne/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML10:50
jeanne/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en10:50
jeanne/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kpdf10:50
jeanne/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kpdf/configure.png10:50
jeanne/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kpdf/index.cache.bz210:50
jeanne/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kpdf/index.docbook10:50
jeanne/usr/share/man10:50
jeanne/usr/share/man/man110:50
jeanne/usr/share/man/man1/kpdf.1.gz10:50
jeannegot this list10:52
TheSheepjeanne: please use pastebin next time10:52
jeanneback10:52
jeannesorry for floading10:52
TheSheep!paste10:52
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)10:52
jeannewhats that ?10:52
TheSheepjeanne: there should be some file in /usr/bin10:53
TheSheepjeanne: that's usually the executable10:53
jeanneah10:53
jeanneI think I have found it10:54
TheSheepgreat10:54
TheSheepbtw, if you know the command and look for the file, you can use: which command10:54
jeanne:D10:54
jeannehooray10:54
TheSheepfor example, which kpdf10:54
jeanneit works ! thank you10:54
jeanneah which command is very good10:55
jeannechanged from windows10:55
AlexCONRADstrange, i've just automated autologin by sed'ing the /etc/gdm/gdm.conf ... but it doesn't work. And when I go in Applications > Login Window > Security tab, it's not enabled. I guess the configuration is stored whereelse.11:14
AlexCONRADelsewhere*11:15
AlexCONRADoh, I think that setting autologin from the GUI generates a /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom11:17
kalabawis there a way to change the size of the icons on the Thunar toolbar?11:22
TheSheepkalabaw: the thunar wiki might have some info on it11:23
AlexCONRADTheSheep has an answer for everyone of us ;)11:24
kalabawtried that but can't seem to find the answer to my question...11:24
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borkedhi, do you know if 'Option "DDC" "False"' works in 8.04? it insist in using 1280x768 even if it tell it explicitly in xorg.org to use 1024x768 :-\12:38
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cody-somervilleWho was I talking to yesterday about tablet PCs?13:32
Odd-rationaleme?13:33
Odd-rationalecody-somerville: i updated my wiki page. take a look! http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tablet_PC#Tablet_PC_Tips13:33
cody-somervilleChillin! :)13:34
cody-somervilleWant to add it to the Ubuntu wiki? ;]13:35
Odd-rationalecody-somerville: feel free to do so. you may have to change a few ubuntu specific stuff...13:35
Odd-rationalelike apt13:35
Odd-rationaleand linuxwacom is called wacom-tools in ubuntu13:36
Odd-rationaleiirc13:36
Odd-rationaleAlso, arent there already several tablet guides in the ubuntu wiki?13:38
cody-somervilleI used your page to configure mine13:40
Odd-rationalecody-somerville: btw, did the rotate script work for you? I think i'm the only person who uses it... :) So it could use some testing...13:40
cody-somervilleI didn't try it yes13:41
cody-somerville*yet13:41
cody-somervilleJust entered the commands manually13:41
Odd-rationalei see13:41
Odd-rationalewell i have to be going soon... have fun!13:42
Odd-rationaleand if you see anything else cool tablet related, let me know13:42
cody-somervilleHow do I get it to right click instead of middle click when I press the button?13:47
cody-somervillelol13:47
Odd-rationalecody-somerville: look at how i configure my xorg.conf13:50
Odd-rationaleyou have to add Option         "Button2" "3"13:50
Odd-rationaleto the driver and eraser section13:50
Odd-rationaleto the stylus and eraser, i mean13:51
Odd-rationalegtg. bye!13:54
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ValsumHello16:55
lc2o hay thar16:56
vrkhanshow can i delete a dir17:09
lc2rmdir17:12
lc2even better, google.com17:13
lc2this new website where you can search for things on the intermails17:13
The-Kernelvrkhans or rm -rf17:14
TheSheep-f is not necessary17:14
lc2no u17:14
TheSheeplc2: this is a support channel, a perfect place to ask and answer exactly this kind of questions17:15
lc2he could just right click on it and go delete, you know17:15
lc2oh, too late17:16
lc2it was probably a troll anyway, since you don't install xubuntu and find yourself unable to right click in a file manager17:16
lc2but wut do i no lol17:16
The-Kernelwhat if he's like me17:17
The-Kerneland uses a terminal 24/717:17
TheSheepThe-Kernel: then he knows how to delete directories :)17:17
lc2then i'm guessing he'll know how to delete a d....yeah that17:17
The-Kernel:P17:18
TheSheepbut he could be transiting from one state to the other17:18
SuPeRhOmEmhi all, how can I set my keyboard layout manually: the GUI way isn't working18:39
AlexCONRADhi, anyone could help with customized CD? Here's a mail I just sent to a list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-June/004481.html18:45
shut-hey, i am getting an error when updating...18:50
shut-W: Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found18:51
riddleboxhow can I get the ubuntu original toolbars, if I started with xubuntu?19:24
jimisrvroxanybody here?19:24
Myrttisure19:26
jimisrvroxok cool right on19:27
jimisrvroxwell heres the deal I been having probs installing xubuntu on my machine19:27
jimisrvroxtrying to install xubuntu and am getting an error Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-- depends--install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb19:27
jimisrvroxI had installed PCLinuxOS on there and it was working but I couldnt update the package manager so I dumped it for xubuntu and then when I tried to install the base kernel it tells me that it cant do it so is there anyway that I could fix that stuff without having to do a full format which would take forever to do on a 40gb drive?19:28
MyrttiI just formatted 200G to ext3 and it didn't take forever :-P19:29
jimisrvroxok but how would you do that from the ubuntu main menu?19:30
jimisrvroxbecause I tried fdisk and that wouldnt work worth nothing19:30
Myrttimkfs.ext3 /dev/<device>?19:32
Myrttiin terminal, with sudo19:32
Myrttimkfs anyway19:33
jimisrvroxyeah well heh im a linux n00b19:35
jimisrvroxbut im telling you I dont have the konsole to do nothing19:35
jimisrvroxall im doing is overwriting the PCLinuxOS with Xubuntu and I get as far as installing the base kernel and it tells me that it cant do it19:36
jimisrvroxso im not even in the gui interface19:36
jimisrvroxim in the dos-style shit19:36
Myrttimeh19:36
jimisrvroxso what should I do?19:37
jimisrvroxits not like I could get like a linux bootdisk and do an fdisk no?19:37
jimisrvroxkinda like winblows19:38
Myrttihmmm19:40
jimisrvroxyou know what im talking about right?19:40
Myrttiyeah19:41
jimisrvroxid love to find a linux boot disk just to run off of my a: so I couild format it in ext319:41
Myrttiwell how did you try to install ubuntu if not with a installation cd?19:41
jimisrvroxno I put on the install cd19:41
jimisrvroxall I was doing was overwriting the PCLinuxOS19:41
jimisrvroxbut when it got to trying to install the base kernel it told me that it couldnt do it because I already had installed it with PCLinuxOX19:42
jimisrvroxalbeit I dont know if PCLinuxOS installed the same kernel or a different one19:42
jimisrvroxI guess I could try skipping that step and see if it runs smoothly with the PCLinuxOS kernel no?19:42
Myrttiwell now...19:42
Myrttierm19:43
Myrttiyou didn't even get to the part about partitioning?19:43
jimisrvroxno I got past that part19:44
jimisrvroxI got past partitioning the step after that on the menu is installing the base system19:45
Myrttiand you didn't empty/reformat your partitions?19:45
jimisrvroxthat might be the problem here19:45
Myrttino kidding ;-)19:45
jimisrvroxok so how the hell would you do that from the install menu?19:45
jimisrvroxI guess I could stick my windows boot disk in there and then fdisk from there and delete the partitions?19:46
Myrttidid you use alternate or desktop installation disk?19:46
jimisrvroxbecause the partitioner on the instaler doesnt give you an option to delete the partitions19:46
jimisrvroxyes19:46
Myrttiwhich?19:47
jimisrvrox8.04 for the x8619:48
Myrttialternate or desktop?19:49
jimisrvroxalt19:49
jimisrvroxI dl'ed the alt because somebody suggested I do that but I coudlnt tell you the diff btwn the desktop and the alt19:49
Myrttiwell, there should come an option to do a manual editing of the partitions and you can delete the old partitions from there19:49
jimisrvroxwhich I could probably research that but if yo uhad the answer to that one it woudl be much easier proabbly to understand19:49
Myrttithe blue ugly one or the pretty mouse clickable funky thing?19:50
jimisrvroxright but im telling you that when it gives you the option to manually do the partitions fdisk..it doesnt let you do it when i click on it19:50
jimisrvroxdos style ugly :D19:50
jimisrvroxyup..tried to click on manually partition it..from the menu and it just takes me right back to the menu19:51
jimisrvroxok I got the partitions off19:53
jimisrvroxso im gonna try to repartition it19:53
jimisrvroxhey dude..20:01
jimisrvroxI deleted the partitions and got the same error20:01
Myrttiand did you repartition them too?20:01
Myrttis/them/the harddrive/20:01
jimisrvroxyeah I tried20:07
Myrttihum, in that case I'm stumped20:07
jimisrvroxwell I think in this case I might just take out my windows boot disk20:10
truefirehi, how big is xubuntu when installed on hdd?20:18
truefireanybody?20:19
truefireMan, xubuntu is dead.20:19
MyrttiI wish I had vanilla installation at hand so I could check20:19
Myrttiunfortunately I've got lots of extra, space taking junk too20:19
truefirethanks.20:19
truefirewell,guesstimate?20:20
truefireunder 2gigs, right?20:20
truefireI'm installing vanilla xubuntu (not eee) on  my asus eeepc, 4gb20:20
truefireUbuntu was too big20:21
truefirefilled it up20:21
truefiremy goal is to make a Xubuntu Netbook Remix of sorts, since UNR is so big.20:21
AlexCONRADhi again20:40
AlexCONRADI need help for understanding things with kernel again20:41
AlexCONRADI'm customizing a CD, but the network driver provided by the distro doesn't fit my network card, its broken. So I compiled the new driver (.ko). But I'd like to put this driver on the CDROM I'm making, so I don't have to go on each PC i'm installing to make the network working.20:42
AlexCONRADany hints for doing this ?20:43
AlexCONRADI'm no kernel expert and I'm not sure how modules are transfered from the CDROM to the target PC*20:44
jmhealeyhello all20:53
* jmhealey has decided xfce is the way to go at home20:53
jmhealeyanyone here?20:54
AlexCONRADi am20:55
jmhealeyhey AlexCONRAD20:57
jmhealeyhow are yu20:57
jmhealeyhow long have you been using xubuntu, or do you?20:57
AlexCONRADjust a little20:57
AlexCONRADi'm a n00b :)20:57
jmhealeynoob to linux too?20:58
AlexCONRADcomming from the fedora side20:58
jmhealeygotcha. i used fedora for a bit, and redhat before fedora existed20:58
AlexCONRADbut I have more of a server experience, rather than a user desktop experience20:58
AlexCONRADso have I20:59
jmhealeyi got ya- are you an admin?20:59
AlexCONRADnot really, more a dev... but being alone knowing linux at my work, it kinds makes me an admin too21:01
AlexCONRADbut i'm not very experienced21:01
AlexCONRADim ok, not hardcore21:01
jmhealeyi got ya.  i've got no dev experience, but i was kind of the de facto linux admin at my last job, limited experience though in a server env21:02
AlexCONRADok21:03
AlexCONRADI'll probably installing a desktop rich distro like *buntu at home and at work21:03
AlexCONRADi'll have more general knowledge of linux21:03
AlexCONRADright now i'm playing with xubuntu, but for very specific needs21:04
AlexCONRADso still no general knowledge21:04
jmhealeyyes, i run *buntu on 6 machines at home.  so i've got some desktop install/config experience, to be sure21:04
AlexCONRADi'll be back in a while, diner time :)21:06
jmhealeysee you21:06
jimisrvroxhey jmhealey are you around?21:16
jmhealeyyep21:17
jmhealeyhow are you?21:17
jimisrvroxnot doing so well21:17
jimisrvroxtrying to install xubuntu over PCLinuxOS21:18
jimisrvroxand its not going to well at all21:18
jmhealeyright over it, on the same partitions?21:19
jimisrvroxwell ive done so much shit like deleting the partitions21:19
jimisrvroxand repartitioning21:19
jimisrvroxand then whenever I try to install the system base21:19
jimisrvroxit tells me that it cant do it21:19
jmhealeyhave you got data you need to save?21:19
jimisrvroxso now I went into resuce mode21:19
jimisrvroxno21:19
jimisrvroxthis is a screw around computer that I am putting linux on ...ima n00b and officially ex-winblows user21:20
jmhealeythats cool.   most all are ex windblows users, myself included21:20
jmhealeywhat version of xubuntu do you ahve on disk?21:20
jimisrvrox8.04 x86 alt cd21:21
jimisrvroxso I went into rescue mode21:21
jimisrvroxand got a temp root shell21:21
jmhealeyhmm.   any particular reason for the alternative cd?21:21
jimisrvroxheh not really havent a clue as to what im doing21:21
jimisrvroxsomebody suggested to run the alt cd21:21
jimisrvroxgot 196mb of ram and a p3 700 running21:22
jmhealeyok.  i'd recommend that you used the other choice (not the alt)21:22
jimisrvroxnoooo!21:22
jimisrvroxI dont want to have to go wait for an hour!21:22
jmhealeylol21:22
jimisrvroxand then burn another cd to have this one be a coaster21:22
jmhealey but then you can  boot to a desktop and see how she runs on that box21:22
jimisrvroxwell yeah but why do something twice?!?21:23
jmhealeythe other cd image is a 'live' one, you can boot right to a desktop, provided the hdw is supported21:23
jimisrvroxI dont want to have to wait for an hour to dl the same iso but desktop version21:23
jimisrvroxyes i know its a live cd21:23
jimisrvroxbut so is this one just tha tits a dos shit gui21:23
jmhealeyok21:23
jimisrvroxso what the deal is is that i ran the error checker and the cd passed21:24
jimisrvroxso I started the install and when it got to installing the base system it told me21:24
jimisrvroxtrying to install xubuntu and am getting an error Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-- depends--install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb21:24
jmhealeyi don't know what that means21:26
jimisrvroxI was thinking as a last resort to get a winblows boot disk and just format the drive and start over21:26
jmhealeybut i have had bad burns of ubuntu CD21:26
jimisrvroxbut formatting the 40gb drive would take forever21:26
jimisrvroxwell like I say the cd passed the error checker21:26
jmhealeyforever-  cmon21:26
jimisrvroxwhat so you dont think it woudl take that long eh?21:26
jmhealeyi swear i've had CD's that passed the self test, and then hozed out with read errors sometime during install21:27
jimisrvroxso you think I should just format with windows boot disk and try a clean install?21:27
jmhealeydownload system rescue CD and wipe the drive, as well as test it for errors at the same time, thats my advice21:27
jmhealeyyou don't need a windblows disk,  get away from that LOL21:27
jimisrvroxim in the system rescue part of the live cd dude21:27
jimisrvroxat a root shell21:27
jmhealeyi've not been there, will it let you run parted? try that command21:28
jimisrvroxjust type in parted?21:28
jmhealeyparted can blow away partitions and so can fdisk if you've got it21:28
jmhealeytype parted21:28
jimisrvroxtells me not found21:29
jmhealeytry fdisk then21:29
jimisrvroxok fdisk gives me all the partitions21:29
Volkodav_gparted21:29
jmhealeyyep, gparted is the gui version of parted21:29
jmhealeyjimisrvrox: you can use fdisk to blow away partions and then creat them21:30
jimisrvroxyes I know21:30
jimisrvroxI had repartitioned the drives like i dont know how many times using the installer21:30
jimisrvroxand still had the same error21:30
jmhealeythen i'd definetly try another burned copy of xubuntu21:30
jmhealeyi've had bad burns that checked out OK with the disk integrity checker.   don't ask me why21:31
jimisrvroxim gonna run th installer one more time21:32
Volkodav_I had similar error and it turned out to be bad sectors on the hard drive21:32
jmhealeyhttp://www.sysresccd.org   <--- download that disk, its the tits21:32
Volkodav_check your drive first21:32
jmhealeyVolkodav_: good advice, which he can do with sysrecccd21:33
jimisrvroxok starting up partitioner21:33
jimisrvroxand im gonna use the entire disk21:33
Volkodav_in my situation I could not resize htfs partition and ntfs-resize caught the error21:34
jmhealeygood, cuz that will leave no room for windows : )21:34
jmhealeyone thing i noticed on Vista machines, is that if the Vista OS was not shut down cleanly, I couldnt do a resize.21:34
jimisrvroxok its creating the ext3 fs21:35
Volkodav_and after I replaced that bad drive ram turned out to be trashed too on the same box21:35
jimisrvroxinstalling base system21:35
jimisrvroxthis is where it crashes21:35
Volkodav_you need to defrag  and disk clean up before resize21:35
jmhealeyVolkodav_: that sounds like a bad day21:35
Volkodav_It was a bad box I dealt with21:36
jmhealeyjimisrvrox: here's the other utility CD i carry everywhere: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/21:36
Volkodav_that happens every coupla years21:36
jmhealeyi have a copy of each of those everywhere, in the glovebox my car, my truck, and my motorcycle tank bag.21:36
jmhealeyand in my wife's pocketbook.21:37
Volkodav_forensic disks are always handy21:37
jimisrvroxand my other issue here is that no matter what I tell imgburn about write speed my dam dvd writer wants to go at 16x21:38
jimisrvroxunpacking base system @ 47%21:39
jmhealeynothing like a good unpacking i tell ya...21:39
Volkodav_jimisrvrox, it may be blank DVD's that will not go lower speed21:40
jimisrvroxno theyre cdrs21:40
Volkodav_or cdr's21:40
jimisrvroxoh ok so I could put a diff brand in and it will work out fine21:40
jimisrvroxconfig apt sorces @ 75%21:41
jmhealeyjimisrvrox: every heard of puppy linux?21:41
jimisrvroxretreving and installing linux-generic 83%21:41
jimisrvroxyup21:41
Volkodav_puppy is nice21:41
jmhealeyyeah, it runs really well on older machine, IMX21:42
Volkodav_they have video detection problems though21:42
jimisrvroxok well error erturned while trying to install the kernel into the target system21:42
jmhealeyi was just at a LUG meeting and there was a dude there that was a Puppy Linux freak.  he ran it on everything21:43
Volkodav_at higher res21:43
jimisrvroxcheck /var/log/sysing or see virtual console 4 for the details21:43
jmhealeyjimisrvrox: I'm leaning toward Volkodav_'s comment, you got a flaky hard drive21:43
Volkodav_I have it installed on one of my oldeast lappies21:43
jimisrvroxok but why could I install PCLinuxOS have it run fine21:43
jimisrvroxand the when I tried to install this21:43
jimisrvroxit wouldnt even install21:43
jmhealeyhow long was PCLin on there?21:44
jimisrvroxlike all of a couple of hours21:44
jimisrvroxbecause the package manager wouldnt load21:44
jmhealeyhmm.21:44
Volkodav_checked your ram ?21:44
jimisrvroxfor bad ram?21:44
jimisrvroxno21:44
Volkodav_do that21:44
jmhealeypull it and reseat it, too21:44
jimisrvroxand the other funny thing about this whole thing is that when i start it up I get primary slave hard disk fail21:45
jimisrvroxbut I was able to run XP and PCLin on it fine21:46
Volkodav_I had XP running on that bad disk too21:46
Volkodav_it depends where the bad sectors are21:46
jmhealeyagreed21:47
Volkodav_If they happen to be at the end of the drive where you try to install - no luck21:47
jimisrvroxrunning mem test21:47
jimisrvroxi take it that that is going to take a while?21:48
jmhealeyjimisrvrox: please tell me you aren't thinking of going back to windows21:48
Volkodav_Does the box acting up any other way ? noises shutdowns etc?21:48
Volkodav_How much ram do you have and what CPU?21:48
jimisrvroxno im not going back to winblows21:49
jimisrvroxI expected problems with linux21:49
jmhealeyok ok.  just chekcing21:49
jimisrvroxbut I am not giving up on it21:49
jimisrvroxIm using xp on this machine right now21:49
jimisrvroxbut I dont intend to use it that much once I get a linux distro up21:49
Volkodav_hardly it has anything to do with linux - seems like hardware issue to me21:49
jimisrvroxno sounds no nothing21:50
jimisrvroxp3 700 196mb ram21:50
Volkodav_will take about 30-40 m in21:50
Volkodav_to finish mem test21:50
jmhealeyjimisrvrox: ar eyou in the US?21:51
jimisrvroxyeah21:51
Volkodav_it sometimes will not stop and will start over - so keep an eye on it21:51
jimisrvroxwell right now pass 17% and test 41%21:51
jmhealeyok, there is a different iso to burn if you are south of the equator, that's why i asked21:52
jimisrvroxso im gonna go outside and smoke a cig so i'll brb21:52
jmhealeyok21:52
* Volkodav_ out of smokes21:52
jmhealeyVolkodav_: are you a linux professional?21:53
Volkodav_been playing with it for a while21:53
Volkodav_may say so21:53
jmhealeysame here, aspiring to be a pro21:53
jmhealeyi am a former nt admin21:53
jmhealeyWhat is your preferred desktop linux distro?21:54
Volkodav_I still admin some networks21:54
Volkodav_I run gentoo and archlinux21:54
jmhealeyi am currently not employed21:54
Volkodav_ubuntu in the office21:54
jmhealeyah, a guy at work was deep into gentoo21:54
Volkodav_I am part time21:54
jmhealeywhat state are you in? I'm in NC21:55
Volkodav_Good lerning curve with gentoo21:55
Volkodav_I am in PA21:55
Volkodav_but in Russia nw21:55
jmhealeycool.21:55
Volkodav_now*21:55
jmhealeywow. what are you doing there?21:55
Volkodav_business/vacation trip21:56
jimisrvroxim in NM21:56
jmhealeynice. i've never been over there21:56
jimisrvroxbut im out for a smoke21:56
jimisrvroxits a shithole over here man21:56
jimisrvroxwished i was back in dallas21:56
jmhealeyNM?21:56
jimisrvroxnew mexico21:56
jmhealeyI just left dallas last year21:56
Volkodav_I can imagine NM is a dump21:56
jimisrvroxaint a damn thing to do out here21:56
jmhealeyNM is better than OM though, isn't it?21:56
jimisrvroxnew mexico dude..21:57
jimisrvroxi have no clue what OM is21:57
jmhealeyold mexico21:57
Volkodav_hehe21:57
jimisrvroxoh hell yeah its better than that dump21:57
jimisrvroxnot by a whole lot tho21:57
jmhealeywhere is dallas did you live? i was in plano and then wylie21:58
jimisrvroxheh22:05
jimisrvroxI was in lewisville22:05
jimisrvroxplano was cool except for all the asshole cops around22:05
jimisrvroxsame with richardson22:05
jmhealeyright.22:06
jmhealeyi worked in frisco22:06
jimisrvroxfrisco is cool as hell too22:06
jmhealeyhad a friend in the colony22:06
jimisrvroxwished I coulda gone to the stonegate mall or whatever the hell it was22:06
jmhealeyi almost moved to little elm22:06
jimisrvroxheard that mall was cool22:06
jimisrvroxyeah little elm right next to lewisville22:06
jmhealeybut bought in wylie. the stonebriar mall, yeah my wife worked there22:07
jimisrvroxyeah stonebriar22:07
jimisrvroxpass 71%22:07
jmhealeywhat got you to NM?22:07
jimisrvroxwell shit man Im thinking about trying for being oracle dba or oracle dev22:07
jimisrvroxwifes parents live out here22:07
jmhealeycool22:07
jimisrvroxi actually met my wife on the net and been married for 3 yrs now22:08
jmhealeythats great. i met my wife on the net,  we've been together 8 years, got 2 kids22:08
jimisrvroxsweet22:08
jimisrvroxmy wife hates it that im all into computers22:08
jmhealeyhehe22:08
jimisrvroxI need to go back to school though..I dropped out after a year and a half..22:09
jimisrvroxfigured I didnt need the crap..22:09
jimisrvroxbuncha theory classes that I didnt see any practicallity too..22:09
jimisrvroxso I said screw this22:09
jimisrvroxbut ive been around computers now for about 15 yrs..23 and got in when i was 7 and taught myself most of what I know..know how to build a pc and put a network together and a little bit of programming but not enough to be doing anything serious22:10
jmhealeycool. thats a great start to a good career, for sure22:11
jimisrvroxbut lifes a bitch right now man..I was used to the padres making 70K a year a piece22:11
jimisrvroxgood life man now im makin like 7 an horu just doing data entry shit and the wife is a bus driver she likes it but money is always tight22:12
jimisrvroxand at my work I dont play around i use all the keyboard shortcuts and shit so I get done with everything in about 1hr 1/222:12
jimisrvroxand screw around the rest of the day..if I had my truck fixed id def be looking for better jobs and luckly i been with this co for about 1 yr and havent gotten a raise bc I was through a temp agency and the position im in is not open for hire so im stuck with the temp until the new budget comes out in july22:13
jimisrvroxpass 94%22:13
jmhealeywell, it's a start. i'm unemployed, which is worse, trust me22:14
jimisrvroxbeen there myself22:14
jimisrvroxheh my mom is an accoutant and I told her I didnt need a job that I could make it on my own in real estate I got caught up in the rich dad books22:15
jimisrvroxand started telling her that I didnt want to get a job because then id be making money for somebody else instead of myself22:15
jmhealeyhow'd that work out?22:17
jimisrvroxnever did22:18
jimisrvroxI had a guy that I worked with that did real estate on the side and I asked him to show me the ropes and he flaked out on me22:18
jmhealeybazdid22:18
jimisrvroxyup22:19
jimisrvroxbut hey people are like that tho22:19
jimisrvroxwished I knew how to use linkedin effectively because then I figure I could get a decent job out here somehow22:20
jimisrvroxbut the only problem is I dont really know anybody around here who uses linkedin22:20
jmhealeywhat part of NM are you in?22:21
jimisrvroxalbuquerque22:22
jmhealeynever been there22:22
jmhealeyhows the mem check going?22:31
jimisrvroxI thought it was going to be done but I guess its checking a 2nd sector of mem22:33
jimisrvroxright now at 69%22:33
jmhealeyhey did you know a guy named daryll in lewisville, had a yellow cbr600rr22:33
jimisrvroxno I knew a daryll that had a 60's mustang22:34
jmhealeyyour age?22:34
jimisrvrox2322:34
jmhealeywas he your age?22:35
jimisrvroxoh yeah22:35
jmhealeyi think that him, the mustang was his 'rents if i'm not mistaken22:35
jmhealeybut i think he's aabout 2 years older than ye22:36
jimisrvroxno this guy's mustag was his22:37
jimisrvroxhe had his own pad22:37
jmhealeyok.  guess that's not him22:41
jmhealeythis guy was a fanatical soccer player22:41
jimisrvroxnope22:42
jimisrvroxfuck man what the hell man22:43
jimisrvroxthis shit has started all over again!22:43
jimisrvroxunder pass it says 222:43
jmhealeyyeah, sometime memtest takes a few weeks, but it's worth it22:46
jimisrvroxweeks?!?22:48
jimisrvroxhell I thought it would take an hour at most22:49
jmhealeyoh22:49
jmhealeyi had one that ran for 23 days22:49
jimisrvroxwell hell man its not like i have 1gb of ram22:49
jimisrvroxI only have 196mb22:49
jmhealeyi used to watch it every night while i drank beer.22:50
jimisrvroxhow many passes does it have to do before its done?22:51
jmhealey255 i think, not sure22:54
jmhealeyhow many so far?22:54
jimisrvroxoh god22:54
jimisrvroxim only at 2!22:54
jmhealeyhows that going, any errors so far?22:55
jimisrvroxnope22:56
jmhealeyare you downloading ultimate boot cd, cuz that has all the major manufacturer's drive checking utilities on it22:56
jmhealeyit kicks ass22:56
jimisrvroxno I guess I should22:57
jmhealeyyou could run it on the drive.  btw, how big is the drive and what type/brand is it?22:57
jimisrvrox40gb seagate drink22:58
jimisrvroxdrive*22:58
jmhealeydrink.  freudian slip?22:59
jmhealeythe ulttimate boot cd has the seagate utility22:59
jmhealeyyou can check it thoroughly with that22:59
jimisrvroxman I dont wanna sit around and wait for the memtest shit23:01
jimisrvroxI thought it was gonna be quick23:01
Volkodav_3-4 should be OK - I do it normally overnight and it runs about 2023:01
Volkodav_3 passes should do for starters23:02
jimisrvroxwell its at 70% going on 323:02
jimisrvroxI guess it tests every little chemical molecule of your memory eh? heh23:02
Volkodav_well then let it finish at least one23:02
jimisrvroxdownload UB CD23:03
Volkodav_some times the first pass doesn't catch an error, but subsequent passes will.23:03
jmhealeyyep.   if you start to smell it, shut it off. it melted one ram chip on me once23:03
Volkodav_lolz23:03
jimisrvroxheh23:03
jimisrvroxwell im gonan go smoke whlie it finishes to 3 and then im gonna stop it and do what idk23:04
jimisrvroxmaybe get that damn boot cd going23:04
Volkodav_http://shsc.info/Memtest8623:05
kioskhello xubuntuers23:07
kioskit is 100.6 degrees and rising here - what like there?23:08
jmhealey97 and steady23:09
kioskHey anyone know what's wrong with my mplayer package?23:13
kioskHaving mad troub with it.23:13
jimisrvroxok well its 3 passes now so im gonna reboot23:14
jmhealeywhat are you trying to do with mplayer23:14
jmhealeyjimisrvrox: ok23:14
kioskwait I said the wrong thing23:14
kioskI mean flashplugin-nonfree23:15
kioskTrying to view the Kmart flyer right now (flash)23:15
kioskbut i can't listen to my VOIP voicemail or anything at the moment23:15
jmhealeyhow did you install flashplayer-nonfree?23:15
kiosksudo apt-get install flash . . .23:15
jmhealeyok, i had probs when installing flash from within firerox23:16
kioskyou can do that?23:16
jmhealeyyeah, in FF323:16
jmhealeymethinks23:16
jmhealeyhave you been to medibuntu.org?23:17
kioskno didn't know about it23:17
kioskI think I have FF2.0.0.14 only23:17
kioskI only  have a 300 Mhz is FF3 gonna be slow?23:18
kiosk128 MB too23:18
jmhealeymaybe thats why flash is croaking, not enough ram23:19
jmhealeydo other sites work?23:19
kioskno it worked before23:19
jmhealeyoh.23:19
kioskit stopped working just a few days ago23:19
jmhealeyah.23:19
kioskI reinstalled firefox and flashplugin from apt-get and still nogo23:19
jmhealeytry the medibuntu repositories23:20
jmhealeythats what i do23:20
kioskthanks I'll try that23:26
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jimisrvroxok jm i got the boot cd23:55
jimisrvroxI guess I should start the system from the boot cd no?23:55

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