[00:48] <slow-motion> n8
[01:12] <randomshadowbm1> how come i cant go past 800x600 in xubuntu?
[01:14] <randomshadowbm1> www.pastebin.ca/1041668 - my /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:18] <Genelyk> probe driver vesa
[01:22] <randomshadowbm1> changed driver to vesa
[01:22] <randomshadowbm1> same error
[01:23] <randomshadowbm1> nv, nvidia, and vesa same error
[01:23] <Genelyk> mmm
[01:24] <Genelyk> use cdlive xubuntu ,   and copy  xorg.conf  the cd  to  xubuntu installed
[01:24] <randomshadowbm1> i use 1280x1024 with my other computers on this monitor ( i have a kvm switch )
[01:25] <randomshadowbm1> i copied the xorg.conf file from the install of kubuntu from this
[01:25] <randomshadowbm1> and it didnt work
[01:25] <randomshadowbm1> the computer with kubuntu has nvidia geforce 8500 and this one has nvidia geforce 7600gs
[01:25] <randomshadowbm1> and they use the smae keyboard and mouse too cuz of the kvm switch
[01:26] <randomshadowbm1> xubuntu is on a pentium 4 2ghz with 256mb of ram
[01:26] <randomshadowbm1> and kubuntu is on a amd athlon 64 x2 5200 2.7ghz
[01:26] <randomshadowbm1> with 2gb of ram
[01:27] <Genelyk> reinstalled  driver nvidia ?
[01:27] <randomshadowbm1> yeah
[01:28] <randomshadowbm1> im going to reg ubuntu if i cant get this fixed
[01:31] <Genelyk> okz
[03:13] <LinuxRules_883> I'm having a problem going to the #ubuntu channel. Is there something wrong with it?
[03:26] <The_Kernel> Yeah LinuxRules_883, its too full
[03:26] <konc3pt> Anyone have problems with keyboard reapeating ... or delay?
[03:26] <konc3pt> -new install with 8.04, very newbie here...
[03:27] <LinuxRules_883> How do I get help with Wubi, its not working right?
[03:29] <konc3pt>  Anyone have problems with keyboard reapeating ... or delay?
[03:29] <konc3pt>  -new install with 8.04, very newbie here...
[03:29] <LinuxRules_883> I've never had problems with keyboard repeat or delay.
[03:30] <konc3pt> hmmm, k thx
[03:30] <LinuxRules_883> Sorry, thats not much help.
[03:30] <konc3pt> No, I appreciate teh reply :)
[03:30] <konc3pt> *the
[03:31] <LinuxRules_883> Anyone here know what wrong with Wubi? It starts to connect to the server twice and stops with the error "ERROR: ".
[03:31] <konc3pt> Hmm some sort of error ;)
[03:31] <konc3pt> hah...
[03:31] <konc3pt> sorry...
[03:31] <LinuxRules_883> yeah, just says error and nothing after the ":"
[03:31] <konc3pt> I was just being an ass, sort of.. :)
[03:32] <LinuxRules_883> i'm using crappy old vista and needed to switch to ubuntu without wiping windows out.
[03:32] <LinuxRules_883> np
[03:33] <konc3pt> So... boot off the ubintu...xubuntu..kubuntu cd and install onanother partition if u have one.. the the boot manager.. loader.. whatever will do the rest
[03:33] <konc3pt> *then
[03:33] <LinuxRules_883> i'm just trying to install without cd
[03:33] <konc3pt> o i c
[03:33] <LinuxRules_883> wubi can do it, but its not working right.
[03:33] <LinuxRules_883> or i dont know how to use it.
[03:33] <konc3pt> Why dont u want ot use a cd?
[03:34] <LinuxRules_883> i just dont have one right now, the stores are closed
[03:34] <konc3pt> Heh, ahhh
[03:35] <konc3pt> Keyboard lagging... repeating.. cd-rom access whenever it feels like with no cd in the drive, cannot connect to my wireless network.... woot..
[03:36] <LinuxRules_883> thats sucks. I used to have the wireless problem with my Atheros card.
[03:36] <konc3pt> It's a linksys, ona laptop.. thank god that isn;t my only machine..
[03:52] <jimisrvrox> trying to install xubuntu and am getting an error Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-- depends--install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb
[03:58] <sima> HI How do i repair my package base? I get error: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2 (i am trying to remove xorg-driver-fglrx)
[04:51] <comal> hola
[04:52] <comal> como puedo añadir mas escritorios en xubuntu 8.04?
[04:56] <comal> how can I add more desktop for my xubuntu hardy?
[04:57] <cody-somerville> more desktop?
[05:01] <comal> I dont know english
[05:01] <comal> try to understand please
[05:01] <comal> more mmm, lados de escritorio
[05:02] <comal> xubuntu only come with 2 desktop
[05:02] <comal> mmm
[05:02] <comal> worksapce
[05:02] <comal> or, mmm
[05:07] <The_Kernel> comal Settings -> Workspace -> Change the number from 2 to 4
[05:08] <jimisrvrox> trying to install xubuntu and am getting an error Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-- depends--install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb
[05:09] <comal> ﻿(04:07:15) The_Kernel: comal Settings -> Workspace -> Change the number from 2 to 4<<<-- I do that but dont work
[05:09] <comal> I always have a 2 workspace
[05:10] <The_Kernel> comal have you restart xfce4 yet?
[05:10] <The_Kernel> ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:11] <comal> The_Kernel: no, before I have ubuntu, and the change was instant
[05:11] <comal> I try to restart
[05:11] <comal> thanks
[05:11] <jimisrvrox> hey kernel..ive been dealin with this stuff pretty much all day man
[05:11] <jimisrvrox> same error
[05:55] <dubwoc> whose alive?
[05:57] <The_Kernel> jimisrvrox it appears that your disc is bad
[05:57] <The_Kernel> re download the ISO and burn it again
[05:57] <The_Kernel> run a checksum
[05:58] <jimisrvrox> I ran the verify
[05:58] <jimisrvrox> and it said that it was cool
[05:59] <jimisrvrox> I had PCLinuxOS on there before and so somebody said it didnt matte rthat it cold overwirte it
[05:59] <jimisrvrox> it tells me before I try to install that it has some crap on there from previous installs
[06:00] <The_Kernel> jimisrvrox is this an alt cd or the live cd that you're trying to install from?
[06:00] <jimisrvrox> alt cd
[06:00] <dubwoc> jimisrvrox good man
[06:00] <The_Kernel> OK
[06:00] <dubwoc> lets get this resolved
[06:00] <jimisrvrox> heh
[06:00] <dubwoc> and the_kern is in da house
[06:01] <jimisrvrox> dubwoc has been helpin me all day here..
[06:01] <The_Kernel> Are you at least able to get into the install portion?
[06:01] <jimisrvrox> hes all pissed about this install
[06:01] <jimisrvrox> it gets to installing the kernel base and then tells me crap
[06:01] <jimisrvrox> that stuff up top that I had posted
[06:01] <The_Kernel> have you been able to format the HDD's?
[06:02] <jimisrvrox> no all I did was overwrote xp with PCLinuxOS and then it was a crapper so I went and got Xubuntu
[06:02] <jimisrvrox> and dub here said it would overwrite the PC
[06:04] <jimisrvrox> btw kern ima Linux n00b..Im tired of winblows
[09:34] <medfly> hai guys. i'm trying to install xubuntu on my old (1999) laptop, and it always ends up showing me a blinking _ in the end, when i try to install.
[09:37] <medfly> i'm njot sure how to make it show me errors.
[09:37] <nikolam> what version of xubuntu, how much ram on machine, what it displays before "_", is it working something while displaying it, did you check your CD, did you set your compouter bios to boot from CD..
[09:39] <medfly> uhm... i got the most recent thing, 8.04, 64mb (or was it 128mb? ram), i did check my CD, it did boot from CD
[09:39] <medfly> and before that, it shows a graphical loading screen.
[09:40] <nikolam> do you use alternate install CD?
[09:40] <medfly> no
[09:40] <nikolam> With that amount of RAM (64mb) only alternate will work
[09:41] <medfly> i imagined it'd be slow, but not show a blinking _
[09:41] <nikolam> I suggest you to expand your ram if you can
[09:41] <medfly> well, its a laptop :/
[09:41] <nikolam> desktop cd will NOT boot on that amount of ram
[09:41] <nikolam> laptops can be expanded with ram, too
[09:42] <nikolam> I suggest you to even try alternate install, or expand your ram with ,again alternate install or you can try to use something like Damn small linux
[09:43] <nikolam> I have 2GB in machine and I still use alternate install CD for Xubuntu to install
[09:44] <medfly> uhmm... can i somehow check dmesg to see if all my devices work?
[09:51] <nikolam> Ctrl+Alt+F2 for console
[09:51] <nikolam> But try alternate cd or DSL or expland your ram
[09:51] <medfly> i can use DSL to expand my ram?
[09:52] <nikolam> DamnSmallLinux is a linux distribution, based on .deb packages, specially made for older computers with low amount of ram
[09:52] <nikolam> it should work on 64mb like a charm
[09:52] <medfly> oh... right
[09:53] <nikolam> alternate xubuntu should work on 64 mb but 128 mb is low end in practice
[09:53] <medfly> yeah, i just want something that supports connecting my laptop to the router by USB. plenty of things work :-)
[09:53] <nikolam> You could also try Zenwalk Linux before reverting to DSL
[09:54] <medfly> alt+ctrl+f2 doesnt work..
[09:54] <nikolam> There is not much difference between linux`es when supporting hardware. It`s just about implementation
[10:22] <AlexCONRAD> hi, when I set "Enable Automatic Login" in xubuntu, in which file does it actually stores the data ?
[10:22] <TheSheep> AlexCONRAD: what data?
[10:23] <TheSheep> AlexCONRAD: configuration?
[10:23] <AlexCONRAD> hello TheSheep, yes
[10:23] <AlexCONRAD> I need to write this to disk during my automatic setup
[10:23] <TheSheep> in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, afaik
[10:23] <AlexCONRAD> thanks, i'll look for something here
[10:25] <AlexCONRAD> ah, the data is already here... I have to do some 'sed'
[10:25] <AlexCONRAD> thanks again TheSheep
[10:28] <jeanne> hello
[10:28] <jeanne> I am new to xubuntu and need your help_
[10:29] <jeanne> does anyone of you know in which directory kpdf is located ?
[10:30] <jeanne> I want to set kpdf for opening of pdf-files, but I dont find its location.
[10:36] <TheSheep> xubuntu uses evince, not kpdf
[10:36] <TheSheep> it might be not installed
[10:44] <jeanne> i have kpdf installed
[10:44] <jeanne> I will have a look if I have evince
[10:44] <jeanne> I have evince
[10:45] <jeanne> do you know where this program is located/which path does it have ?
[10:46] <jeanne> when I click on pdf files in the webbrower it asks me with which program I want to open it
[10:46] <jeanne> and I dont know how to set it because I dont find its location
[10:47]  * jeanne is new to linux...
[10:47] <TheSheep> open a termin and type 'dpkg -L kpdf', that will list all files installed with that package
[10:47] <TheSheep> terminal
[10:47] <jeanne> ok
[10:50] <jeanne>  /.
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/doc
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/doc/kpdf
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/doc/kpdf/copyright
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/doc/kpdf/changelog.Debian.gz
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/doc/kde
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kpdf
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kpdf/configure.png
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kpdf/index.cache.bz2
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kpdf/index.docbook
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/man
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/man/man1
[10:50] <jeanne> /usr/share/man/man1/kpdf.1.gz
[10:52] <jeanne> got this list
[10:52] <TheSheep> jeanne: please use pastebin next time
[10:52] <jeanne> back
[10:52] <jeanne> sorry for floading
[10:52] <TheSheep> !paste
[10:52] <jeanne> whats that ?
[10:53] <TheSheep> jeanne: there should be some file in /usr/bin
[10:53] <TheSheep> jeanne: that's usually the executable
[10:53] <jeanne> ah
[10:54] <jeanne> I think I have found it
[10:54] <TheSheep> great
[10:54] <TheSheep> btw, if you know the command and look for the file, you can use: which command
[10:54] <jeanne> :D
[10:54] <jeanne> hooray
[10:54] <TheSheep> for example, which kpdf
[10:54] <jeanne> it works ! thank you
[10:55] <jeanne> ah which command is very good
[10:55] <jeanne> changed from windows
[11:14] <AlexCONRAD> strange, i've just automated autologin by sed'ing the /etc/gdm/gdm.conf ... but it doesn't work. And when I go in Applications > Login Window > Security tab, it's not enabled. I guess the configuration is stored whereelse.
[11:15] <AlexCONRAD> elsewhere*
[11:17] <AlexCONRAD> oh, I think that setting autologin from the GUI generates a /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom
[11:22] <kalabaw> is there a way to change the size of the icons on the Thunar toolbar?
[11:23] <TheSheep> kalabaw: the thunar wiki might have some info on it
[11:24] <AlexCONRAD> TheSheep has an answer for everyone of us ;)
[11:24] <kalabaw> tried that but can't seem to find the answer to my question...
[12:38] <borked> hi, do you know if 'Option "DDC" "False"' works in 8.04? it insist in using 1280x768 even if it tell it explicitly in xorg.org to use 1024x768 :-\
[13:32] <cody-somerville> Who was I talking to yesterday about tablet PCs?
[13:33] <Odd-rationale> me?
[13:33] <Odd-rationale> cody-somerville: i updated my wiki page. take a look! http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tablet_PC#Tablet_PC_Tips
[13:34] <cody-somerville> Chillin! :)
[13:35] <cody-somerville> Want to add it to the Ubuntu wiki? ;]
[13:35] <Odd-rationale> cody-somerville: feel free to do so. you may have to change a few ubuntu specific stuff...
[13:35] <Odd-rationale> like apt
[13:36] <Odd-rationale> and linuxwacom is called wacom-tools in ubuntu
[13:36] <Odd-rationale> iirc
[13:38] <Odd-rationale> Also, arent there already several tablet guides in the ubuntu wiki?
[13:40] <cody-somerville> I used your page to configure mine
[13:40] <Odd-rationale> cody-somerville: btw, did the rotate script work for you? I think i'm the only person who uses it... :) So it could use some testing...
[13:41] <cody-somerville> I didn't try it yes
[13:41] <cody-somerville> *yet
[13:41] <cody-somerville> Just entered the commands manually
[13:41] <Odd-rationale> i see
[13:42] <Odd-rationale> well i have to be going soon... have fun!
[13:42] <Odd-rationale> and if you see anything else cool tablet related, let me know
[13:47] <cody-somerville> How do I get it to right click instead of middle click when I press the button?
[13:47] <cody-somerville> lol
[13:50] <Odd-rationale> cody-somerville: look at how i configure my xorg.conf
[13:50] <Odd-rationale> you have to add Option         "Button2" "3"
[13:50] <Odd-rationale> to the driver and eraser section
[13:51] <Odd-rationale> to the stylus and eraser, i mean
[13:54] <Odd-rationale> gtg. bye!
[16:55] <Valsum> Hello
[16:56] <lc2> o hay thar
[17:09] <vrkhans> how can i delete a dir
[17:12] <lc2> rmdir
[17:13] <lc2> even better, google.com
[17:13] <lc2> this new website where you can search for things on the intermails
[17:14] <The-Kernel> vrkhans or rm -rf
[17:14] <TheSheep> -f is not necessary
[17:14] <lc2> no u
[17:15] <TheSheep> lc2: this is a support channel, a perfect place to ask and answer exactly this kind of questions
[17:15] <lc2> he could just right click on it and go delete, you know
[17:16] <lc2> oh, too late
[17:16] <lc2> it was probably a troll anyway, since you don't install xubuntu and find yourself unable to right click in a file manager
[17:16] <lc2> but wut do i no lol
[17:17] <The-Kernel> what if he's like me
[17:17] <The-Kernel> and uses a terminal 24/7
[17:17] <TheSheep> The-Kernel: then he knows how to delete directories :)
[17:17] <lc2> then i'm guessing he'll know how to delete a d....yeah that
[17:18] <The-Kernel> :P
[17:18] <TheSheep> but he could be transiting from one state to the other
[18:39] <SuPeRhOmEm> hi all, how can I set my keyboard layout manually: the GUI way isn't working
[18:45] <AlexCONRAD> hi, anyone could help with customized CD? Here's a mail I just sent to a list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-June/004481.html
[18:50] <shut-> hey, i am getting an error when updating...
[18:51] <shut-> W: Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/multiverse/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found
[19:24] <riddlebox> how can I get the ubuntu original toolbars, if I started with xubuntu?
[19:24] <jimisrvrox> anybody here?
[19:26] <Myrtti> sure
[19:27] <jimisrvrox> ok cool right on
[19:27] <jimisrvrox> well heres the deal I been having probs installing xubuntu on my machine
[19:27] <jimisrvrox> trying to install xubuntu and am getting an error Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-- depends--install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb
[19:28] <jimisrvrox> I had installed PCLinuxOS on there and it was working but I couldnt update the package manager so I dumped it for xubuntu and then when I tried to install the base kernel it tells me that it cant do it so is there anyway that I could fix that stuff without having to do a full format which would take forever to do on a 40gb drive?
[19:29] <Myrtti> I just formatted 200G to ext3 and it didn't take forever :-P
[19:30] <jimisrvrox> ok but how would you do that from the ubuntu main menu?
[19:30] <jimisrvrox> because I tried fdisk and that wouldnt work worth nothing
[19:32] <Myrtti> mkfs.ext3 /dev/<device>?
[19:32] <Myrtti> in terminal, with sudo
[19:33] <Myrtti> mkfs anyway
[19:35] <jimisrvrox> yeah well heh im a linux n00b
[19:35] <jimisrvrox> but im telling you I dont have the konsole to do nothing
[19:36] <jimisrvrox> all im doing is overwriting the PCLinuxOS with Xubuntu and I get as far as installing the base kernel and it tells me that it cant do it
[19:36] <jimisrvrox> so im not even in the gui interface
[19:36] <jimisrvrox> im in the dos-style shit
[19:36] <Myrtti> meh
[19:37] <jimisrvrox> so what should I do?
[19:37] <jimisrvrox> its not like I could get like a linux bootdisk and do an fdisk no?
[19:38] <jimisrvrox> kinda like winblows
[19:40] <Myrtti> hmmm
[19:40] <jimisrvrox> you know what im talking about right?
[19:41] <Myrtti> yeah
[19:41] <jimisrvrox> id love to find a linux boot disk just to run off of my a: so I couild format it in ext3
[19:41] <Myrtti> well how did you try to install ubuntu if not with a installation cd?
[19:41] <jimisrvrox> no I put on the install cd
[19:41] <jimisrvrox> all I was doing was overwriting the PCLinuxOS
[19:42] <jimisrvrox> but when it got to trying to install the base kernel it told me that it couldnt do it because I already had installed it with PCLinuxOX
[19:42] <jimisrvrox> albeit I dont know if PCLinuxOS installed the same kernel or a different one
[19:42] <jimisrvrox> I guess I could try skipping that step and see if it runs smoothly with the PCLinuxOS kernel no?
[19:42] <Myrtti> well now...
[19:43] <Myrtti> erm
[19:43] <Myrtti> you didn't even get to the part about partitioning?
[19:44] <jimisrvrox> no I got past that part
[19:45] <jimisrvrox> I got past partitioning the step after that on the menu is installing the base system
[19:45] <Myrtti> and you didn't empty/reformat your partitions?
[19:45] <jimisrvrox> that might be the problem here
[19:45] <Myrtti> no kidding ;-)
[19:45] <jimisrvrox> ok so how the hell would you do that from the install menu?
[19:46] <jimisrvrox> I guess I could stick my windows boot disk in there and then fdisk from there and delete the partitions?
[19:46] <Myrtti> did you use alternate or desktop installation disk?
[19:46] <jimisrvrox> because the partitioner on the instaler doesnt give you an option to delete the partitions
[19:46] <jimisrvrox> yes
[19:47] <Myrtti> which?
[19:48] <jimisrvrox> 8.04 for the x86
[19:49] <Myrtti> alternate or desktop?
[19:49] <jimisrvrox> alt
[19:49] <jimisrvrox> I dl'ed the alt because somebody suggested I do that but I coudlnt tell you the diff btwn the desktop and the alt
[19:49] <Myrtti> well, there should come an option to do a manual editing of the partitions and you can delete the old partitions from there
[19:49] <jimisrvrox> which I could probably research that but if yo uhad the answer to that one it woudl be much easier proabbly to understand
[19:50] <Myrtti> the blue ugly one or the pretty mouse clickable funky thing?
[19:50] <jimisrvrox> right but im telling you that when it gives you the option to manually do the partitions fdisk..it doesnt let you do it when i click on it
[19:50] <jimisrvrox> dos style ugly :D
[19:51] <jimisrvrox> yup..tried to click on manually partition it..from the menu and it just takes me right back to the menu
[19:53] <jimisrvrox> ok I got the partitions off
[19:53] <jimisrvrox> so im gonna try to repartition it
[20:01] <jimisrvrox> hey dude..
[20:01] <jimisrvrox> I deleted the partitions and got the same error
[20:01] <Myrtti> and did you repartition them too?
[20:01] <Myrtti> s/them/the harddrive/
[20:07] <jimisrvrox> yeah I tried
[20:07] <Myrtti> hum, in that case I'm stumped
[20:10] <jimisrvrox> well I think in this case I might just take out my windows boot disk
[20:18] <truefire> hi, how big is xubuntu when installed on hdd?
[20:19] <truefire> anybody?
[20:19] <truefire> Man, xubuntu is dead.
[20:19] <Myrtti> I wish I had vanilla installation at hand so I could check
[20:19] <Myrtti> unfortunately I've got lots of extra, space taking junk too
[20:19] <truefire> thanks.
[20:20] <truefire> well,guesstimate?
[20:20] <truefire> under 2gigs, right?
[20:20] <truefire> I'm installing vanilla xubuntu (not eee) on  my asus eeepc, 4gb
[20:21] <truefire> Ubuntu was too big
[20:21] <truefire> filled it up
[20:21] <truefire> my goal is to make a Xubuntu Netbook Remix of sorts, since UNR is so big.
[20:40] <AlexCONRAD> hi again
[20:41] <AlexCONRAD> I need help for understanding things with kernel again
[20:42] <AlexCONRAD> I'm customizing a CD, but the network driver provided by the distro doesn't fit my network card, its broken. So I compiled the new driver (.ko). But I'd like to put this driver on the CDROM I'm making, so I don't have to go on each PC i'm installing to make the network working.
[20:43] <AlexCONRAD> any hints for doing this ?
[20:44] <AlexCONRAD> I'm no kernel expert and I'm not sure how modules are transfered from the CDROM to the target PC*
[20:53] <jmhealey> hello all
[20:53]  * jmhealey has decided xfce is the way to go at home
[20:54] <jmhealey> anyone here?
[20:55] <AlexCONRAD> i am
[20:57] <jmhealey> hey AlexCONRAD
[20:57] <jmhealey> how are yu
[20:57] <jmhealey> how long have you been using xubuntu, or do you?
[20:57] <AlexCONRAD> just a little
[20:57] <AlexCONRAD> i'm a n00b :)
[20:58] <jmhealey> noob to linux too?
[20:58] <AlexCONRAD> comming from the fedora side
[20:58] <jmhealey> gotcha. i used fedora for a bit, and redhat before fedora existed
[20:58] <AlexCONRAD> but I have more of a server experience, rather than a user desktop experience
[20:59] <AlexCONRAD> so have I
[20:59] <jmhealey> i got ya- are you an admin?
[21:01] <AlexCONRAD> not really, more a dev... but being alone knowing linux at my work, it kinds makes me an admin too
[21:01] <AlexCONRAD> but i'm not very experienced
[21:01] <AlexCONRAD> im ok, not hardcore
[21:02] <jmhealey> i got ya.  i've got no dev experience, but i was kind of the de facto linux admin at my last job, limited experience though in a server env
[21:03] <AlexCONRAD> ok
[21:03] <AlexCONRAD> I'll probably installing a desktop rich distro like *buntu at home and at work
[21:03] <AlexCONRAD> i'll have more general knowledge of linux
[21:04] <AlexCONRAD> right now i'm playing with xubuntu, but for very specific needs
[21:04] <AlexCONRAD> so still no general knowledge
[21:04] <jmhealey> yes, i run *buntu on 6 machines at home.  so i've got some desktop install/config experience, to be sure
[21:06] <AlexCONRAD> i'll be back in a while, diner time :)
[21:06] <jmhealey> see you
[21:16] <jimisrvrox> hey jmhealey are you around?
[21:17] <jmhealey> yep
[21:17] <jmhealey> how are you?
[21:17] <jimisrvrox> not doing so well
[21:18] <jimisrvrox> trying to install xubuntu over PCLinuxOS
[21:18] <jimisrvrox> and its not going to well at all
[21:19] <jmhealey> right over it, on the same partitions?
[21:19] <jimisrvrox> well ive done so much shit like deleting the partitions
[21:19] <jimisrvrox> and repartitioning
[21:19] <jimisrvrox> and then whenever I try to install the system base
[21:19] <jimisrvrox> it tells me that it cant do it
[21:19] <jmhealey> have you got data you need to save?
[21:19] <jimisrvrox> so now I went into resuce mode
[21:19] <jimisrvrox> no
[21:20] <jimisrvrox> this is a screw around computer that I am putting linux on ...ima n00b and officially ex-winblows user
[21:20] <jmhealey> thats cool.   most all are ex windblows users, myself included
[21:20] <jmhealey> what version of xubuntu do you ahve on disk?
[21:21] <jimisrvrox> 8.04 x86 alt cd
[21:21] <jimisrvrox> so I went into rescue mode
[21:21] <jimisrvrox> and got a temp root shell
[21:21] <jmhealey> hmm.   any particular reason for the alternative cd?
[21:21] <jimisrvrox> heh not really havent a clue as to what im doing
[21:21] <jimisrvrox> somebody suggested to run the alt cd
[21:22] <jimisrvrox> got 196mb of ram and a p3 700 running
[21:22] <jmhealey> ok.  i'd recommend that you used the other choice (not the alt)
[21:22] <jimisrvrox> noooo!
[21:22] <jimisrvrox> I dont want to have to go wait for an hour!
[21:22] <jmhealey> lol
[21:22] <jimisrvrox> and then burn another cd to have this one be a coaster
[21:22] <jmhealey>  but then you can  boot to a desktop and see how she runs on that box
[21:23] <jimisrvrox> well yeah but why do something twice?!?
[21:23] <jmhealey> the other cd image is a 'live' one, you can boot right to a desktop, provided the hdw is supported
[21:23] <jimisrvrox> I dont want to have to wait for an hour to dl the same iso but desktop version
[21:23] <jimisrvrox> yes i know its a live cd
[21:23] <jimisrvrox> but so is this one just tha tits a dos shit gui
[21:23] <jmhealey> ok
[21:24] <jimisrvrox> so what the deal is is that i ran the error checker and the cd passed
[21:24] <jimisrvrox> so I started the install and when it got to installing the base system it told me
[21:24] <jimisrvrox> trying to install xubuntu and am getting an error Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-- depends--install var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb
[21:26] <jmhealey> i don't know what that means
[21:26] <jimisrvrox> I was thinking as a last resort to get a winblows boot disk and just format the drive and start over
[21:26] <jmhealey> but i have had bad burns of ubuntu CD
[21:26] <jimisrvrox> but formatting the 40gb drive would take forever
[21:26] <jimisrvrox> well like I say the cd passed the error checker
[21:26] <jmhealey> forever-  cmon
[21:26] <jimisrvrox> what so you dont think it woudl take that long eh?
[21:27] <jmhealey> i swear i've had CD's that passed the self test, and then hozed out with read errors sometime during install
[21:27] <jimisrvrox> so you think I should just format with windows boot disk and try a clean install?
[21:27] <jmhealey> download system rescue CD and wipe the drive, as well as test it for errors at the same time, thats my advice
[21:27] <jmhealey> you don't need a windblows disk,  get away from that LOL
[21:27] <jimisrvrox> im in the system rescue part of the live cd dude
[21:27] <jimisrvrox> at a root shell
[21:28] <jmhealey> i've not been there, will it let you run parted? try that command
[21:28] <jimisrvrox> just type in parted?
[21:28] <jmhealey> parted can blow away partitions and so can fdisk if you've got it
[21:28] <jmhealey> type parted
[21:29] <jimisrvrox> tells me not found
[21:29] <jmhealey> try fdisk then
[21:29] <jimisrvrox> ok fdisk gives me all the partitions
[21:29] <Volkodav_> gparted
[21:29] <jmhealey> yep, gparted is the gui version of parted
[21:30] <jmhealey> jimisrvrox: you can use fdisk to blow away partions and then creat them
[21:30] <jimisrvrox> yes I know
[21:30] <jimisrvrox> I had repartitioned the drives like i dont know how many times using the installer
[21:30] <jimisrvrox> and still had the same error
[21:30] <jmhealey> then i'd definetly try another burned copy of xubuntu
[21:31] <jmhealey> i've had bad burns that checked out OK with the disk integrity checker.   don't ask me why
[21:32] <jimisrvrox> im gonna run th installer one more time
[21:32] <Volkodav_> I had similar error and it turned out to be bad sectors on the hard drive
[21:32] <jmhealey> http://www.sysresccd.org   <--- download that disk, its the tits
[21:32] <Volkodav_> check your drive first
[21:33] <jmhealey> Volkodav_: good advice, which he can do with sysrecccd
[21:33] <jimisrvrox> ok starting up partitioner
[21:33] <jimisrvrox> and im gonna use the entire disk
[21:34] <Volkodav_> in my situation I could not resize htfs partition and ntfs-resize caught the error
[21:34] <jmhealey> good, cuz that will leave no room for windows : )
[21:34] <jmhealey> one thing i noticed on Vista machines, is that if the Vista OS was not shut down cleanly, I couldnt do a resize.
[21:35] <jimisrvrox> ok its creating the ext3 fs
[21:35] <Volkodav_> and after I replaced that bad drive ram turned out to be trashed too on the same box
[21:35] <jimisrvrox> installing base system
[21:35] <jimisrvrox> this is where it crashes
[21:35] <Volkodav_> you need to defrag  and disk clean up before resize
[21:35] <jmhealey> Volkodav_: that sounds like a bad day
[21:36] <Volkodav_> It was a bad box I dealt with
[21:36] <jmhealey> jimisrvrox: here's the other utility CD i carry everywhere: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[21:36] <Volkodav_> that happens every coupla years
[21:36] <jmhealey> i have a copy of each of those everywhere, in the glovebox my car, my truck, and my motorcycle tank bag.
[21:37] <jmhealey> and in my wife's pocketbook.
[21:37] <Volkodav_> forensic disks are always handy
[21:38] <jimisrvrox> and my other issue here is that no matter what I tell imgburn about write speed my dam dvd writer wants to go at 16x
[21:39] <jimisrvrox> unpacking base system @ 47%
[21:39] <jmhealey> nothing like a good unpacking i tell ya...
[21:40] <Volkodav_> jimisrvrox, it may be blank DVD's that will not go lower speed
[21:40] <jimisrvrox> no theyre cdrs
[21:40] <Volkodav_> or cdr's
[21:40] <jimisrvrox> oh ok so I could put a diff brand in and it will work out fine
[21:41] <jimisrvrox> config apt sorces @ 75%
[21:41] <jmhealey> jimisrvrox: every heard of puppy linux?
[21:41] <jimisrvrox> retreving and installing linux-generic 83%
[21:41] <jimisrvrox> yup
[21:41] <Volkodav_> puppy is nice
[21:42] <jmhealey> yeah, it runs really well on older machine, IMX
[21:42] <Volkodav_> they have video detection problems though
[21:42] <jimisrvrox> ok well error erturned while trying to install the kernel into the target system
[21:43] <jmhealey> i was just at a LUG meeting and there was a dude there that was a Puppy Linux freak.  he ran it on everything
[21:43] <Volkodav_> at higher res
[21:43] <jimisrvrox> check /var/log/sysing or see virtual console 4 for the details
[21:43] <jmhealey> jimisrvrox: I'm leaning toward Volkodav_'s comment, you got a flaky hard drive
[21:43] <Volkodav_> I have it installed on one of my oldeast lappies
[21:43] <jimisrvrox> ok but why could I install PCLinuxOS have it run fine
[21:43] <jimisrvrox> and the when I tried to install this
[21:43] <jimisrvrox> it wouldnt even install
[21:44] <jmhealey> how long was PCLin on there?
[21:44] <jimisrvrox> like all of a couple of hours
[21:44] <jimisrvrox> because the package manager wouldnt load
[21:44] <jmhealey> hmm.
[21:44] <Volkodav_> checked your ram ?
[21:44] <jimisrvrox> for bad ram?
[21:44] <jimisrvrox> no
[21:44] <Volkodav_> do that
[21:44] <jmhealey> pull it and reseat it, too
[21:45] <jimisrvrox> and the other funny thing about this whole thing is that when i start it up I get primary slave hard disk fail
[21:46] <jimisrvrox> but I was able to run XP and PCLin on it fine
[21:46] <Volkodav_> I had XP running on that bad disk too
[21:46] <Volkodav_> it depends where the bad sectors are
[21:47] <jmhealey> agreed
[21:47] <Volkodav_> If they happen to be at the end of the drive where you try to install - no luck
[21:47] <jimisrvrox> running mem test
[21:48] <jimisrvrox> i take it that that is going to take a while?
[21:48] <jmhealey> jimisrvrox: please tell me you aren't thinking of going back to windows
[21:48] <Volkodav_> Does the box acting up any other way ? noises shutdowns etc?
[21:48] <Volkodav_> How much ram do you have and what CPU?
[21:49] <jimisrvrox> no im not going back to winblows
[21:49] <jimisrvrox> I expected problems with linux
[21:49] <jmhealey> ok ok.  just chekcing
[21:49] <jimisrvrox> but I am not giving up on it
[21:49] <jimisrvrox> Im using xp on this machine right now
[21:49] <jimisrvrox> but I dont intend to use it that much once I get a linux distro up
[21:49] <Volkodav_> hardly it has anything to do with linux - seems like hardware issue to me
[21:50] <jimisrvrox> no sounds no nothing
[21:50] <jimisrvrox> p3 700 196mb ram
[21:50] <Volkodav_> will take about 30-40 m in
[21:50] <Volkodav_> to finish mem test
[21:51] <jmhealey> jimisrvrox: ar eyou in the US?
[21:51] <jimisrvrox> yeah
[21:51] <Volkodav_> it sometimes will not stop and will start over - so keep an eye on it
[21:51] <jimisrvrox> well right now pass 17% and test 41%
[21:52] <jmhealey> ok, there is a different iso to burn if you are south of the equator, that's why i asked
[21:52] <jimisrvrox> so im gonna go outside and smoke a cig so i'll brb
[21:52] <jmhealey> ok
[21:52]  * Volkodav_ out of smokes
[21:53] <jmhealey> Volkodav_: are you a linux professional?
[21:53] <Volkodav_> been playing with it for a while
[21:53] <Volkodav_> may say so
[21:53] <jmhealey> same here, aspiring to be a pro
[21:53] <jmhealey> i am a former nt admin
[21:54] <jmhealey> What is your preferred desktop linux distro?
[21:54] <Volkodav_> I still admin some networks
[21:54] <Volkodav_> I run gentoo and archlinux
[21:54] <jmhealey> i am currently not employed
[21:54] <Volkodav_> ubuntu in the office
[21:54] <jmhealey> ah, a guy at work was deep into gentoo
[21:54] <Volkodav_> I am part time
[21:55] <jmhealey> what state are you in? I'm in NC
[21:55] <Volkodav_> Good lerning curve with gentoo
[21:55] <Volkodav_> I am in PA
[21:55] <Volkodav_> but in Russia nw
[21:55] <jmhealey> cool.
[21:55] <Volkodav_> now*
[21:55] <jmhealey> wow. what are you doing there?
[21:56] <Volkodav_> business/vacation trip
[21:56] <jimisrvrox> im in NM
[21:56] <jmhealey> nice. i've never been over there
[21:56] <jimisrvrox> but im out for a smoke
[21:56] <jimisrvrox> its a shithole over here man
[21:56] <jimisrvrox> wished i was back in dallas
[21:56] <jmhealey> NM?
[21:56] <jimisrvrox> new mexico
[21:56] <jmhealey> I just left dallas last year
[21:56] <Volkodav_> I can imagine NM is a dump
[21:56] <jimisrvrox> aint a damn thing to do out here
[21:56] <jmhealey> NM is better than OM though, isn't it?
[21:57] <jimisrvrox> new mexico dude..
[21:57] <jimisrvrox> i have no clue what OM is
[21:57] <jmhealey> old mexico
[21:57] <Volkodav_> hehe
[21:57] <jimisrvrox> oh hell yeah its better than that dump
[21:57] <jimisrvrox> not by a whole lot tho
[21:58] <jmhealey> where is dallas did you live? i was in plano and then wylie
[22:05] <jimisrvrox> heh
[22:05] <jimisrvrox> I was in lewisville
[22:05] <jimisrvrox> plano was cool except for all the asshole cops around
[22:05] <jimisrvrox> same with richardson
[22:06] <jmhealey> right.
[22:06] <jmhealey> i worked in frisco
[22:06] <jimisrvrox> frisco is cool as hell too
[22:06] <jmhealey> had a friend in the colony
[22:06] <jimisrvrox> wished I coulda gone to the stonegate mall or whatever the hell it was
[22:06] <jmhealey> i almost moved to little elm
[22:06] <jimisrvrox> heard that mall was cool
[22:06] <jimisrvrox> yeah little elm right next to lewisville
[22:07] <jmhealey> but bought in wylie. the stonebriar mall, yeah my wife worked there
[22:07] <jimisrvrox> yeah stonebriar
[22:07] <jimisrvrox> pass 71%
[22:07] <jmhealey> what got you to NM?
[22:07] <jimisrvrox> well shit man Im thinking about trying for being oracle dba or oracle dev
[22:07] <jimisrvrox> wifes parents live out here
[22:07] <jmhealey> cool
[22:08] <jimisrvrox> i actually met my wife on the net and been married for 3 yrs now
[22:08] <jmhealey> thats great. i met my wife on the net,  we've been together 8 years, got 2 kids
[22:08] <jimisrvrox> sweet
[22:08] <jimisrvrox> my wife hates it that im all into computers
[22:08] <jmhealey> hehe
[22:09] <jimisrvrox> I need to go back to school though..I dropped out after a year and a half..
[22:09] <jimisrvrox> figured I didnt need the crap..
[22:09] <jimisrvrox> buncha theory classes that I didnt see any practicallity too..
[22:09] <jimisrvrox> so I said screw this
[22:10] <jimisrvrox> but ive been around computers now for about 15 yrs..23 and got in when i was 7 and taught myself most of what I know..know how to build a pc and put a network together and a little bit of programming but not enough to be doing anything serious
[22:11] <jmhealey> cool. thats a great start to a good career, for sure
[22:11] <jimisrvrox> but lifes a bitch right now man..I was used to the padres making 70K a year a piece
[22:12] <jimisrvrox> good life man now im makin like 7 an horu just doing data entry shit and the wife is a bus driver she likes it but money is always tight
[22:12] <jimisrvrox> and at my work I dont play around i use all the keyboard shortcuts and shit so I get done with everything in about 1hr 1/2
[22:13] <jimisrvrox> and screw around the rest of the day..if I had my truck fixed id def be looking for better jobs and luckly i been with this co for about 1 yr and havent gotten a raise bc I was through a temp agency and the position im in is not open for hire so im stuck with the temp until the new budget comes out in july
[22:13] <jimisrvrox> pass 94%
[22:14] <jmhealey> well, it's a start. i'm unemployed, which is worse, trust me
[22:14] <jimisrvrox> been there myself
[22:15] <jimisrvrox> heh my mom is an accoutant and I told her I didnt need a job that I could make it on my own in real estate I got caught up in the rich dad books
[22:15] <jimisrvrox> and started telling her that I didnt want to get a job because then id be making money for somebody else instead of myself
[22:17] <jmhealey> how'd that work out?
[22:18] <jimisrvrox> never did
[22:18] <jimisrvrox> I had a guy that I worked with that did real estate on the side and I asked him to show me the ropes and he flaked out on me
[22:18] <jmhealey> bazdid
[22:19] <jimisrvrox> yup
[22:19] <jimisrvrox> but hey people are like that tho
[22:20] <jimisrvrox> wished I knew how to use linkedin effectively because then I figure I could get a decent job out here somehow
[22:20] <jimisrvrox> but the only problem is I dont really know anybody around here who uses linkedin
[22:21] <jmhealey> what part of NM are you in?
[22:22] <jimisrvrox> albuquerque
[22:22] <jmhealey> never been there
[22:31] <jmhealey> hows the mem check going?
[22:33] <jimisrvrox> I thought it was going to be done but I guess its checking a 2nd sector of mem
[22:33] <jimisrvrox> right now at 69%
[22:33] <jmhealey> hey did you know a guy named daryll in lewisville, had a yellow cbr600rr
[22:34] <jimisrvrox> no I knew a daryll that had a 60's mustang
[22:34] <jmhealey> your age?
[22:34] <jimisrvrox> 23
[22:35] <jmhealey> was he your age?
[22:35] <jimisrvrox> oh yeah
[22:35] <jmhealey> i think that him, the mustang was his 'rents if i'm not mistaken
[22:36] <jmhealey> but i think he's aabout 2 years older than ye
[22:37] <jimisrvrox> no this guy's mustag was his
[22:37] <jimisrvrox> he had his own pad
[22:41] <jmhealey> ok.  guess that's not him
[22:41] <jmhealey> this guy was a fanatical soccer player
[22:42] <jimisrvrox> nope
[22:43] <jimisrvrox> fuck man what the hell man
[22:43] <jimisrvrox> this shit has started all over again!
[22:43] <jimisrvrox> under pass it says 2
[22:46] <jmhealey> yeah, sometime memtest takes a few weeks, but it's worth it
[22:48] <jimisrvrox> weeks?!?
[22:49] <jimisrvrox> hell I thought it would take an hour at most
[22:49] <jmhealey> oh
[22:49] <jmhealey> i had one that ran for 23 days
[22:49] <jimisrvrox> well hell man its not like i have 1gb of ram
[22:49] <jimisrvrox> I only have 196mb
[22:50] <jmhealey> i used to watch it every night while i drank beer.
[22:51] <jimisrvrox> how many passes does it have to do before its done?
[22:54] <jmhealey> 255 i think, not sure
[22:54] <jmhealey> how many so far?
[22:54] <jimisrvrox> oh god
[22:54] <jimisrvrox> im only at 2!
[22:55] <jmhealey> hows that going, any errors so far?
[22:56] <jimisrvrox> nope
[22:56] <jmhealey> are you downloading ultimate boot cd, cuz that has all the major manufacturer's drive checking utilities on it
[22:56] <jmhealey> it kicks ass
[22:57] <jimisrvrox> no I guess I should
[22:57] <jmhealey> you could run it on the drive.  btw, how big is the drive and what type/brand is it?
[22:58] <jimisrvrox> 40gb seagate drink
[22:58] <jimisrvrox> drive*
[22:59] <jmhealey> drink.  freudian slip?
[22:59] <jmhealey> the ulttimate boot cd has the seagate utility
[22:59] <jmhealey> you can check it thoroughly with that
[23:01] <jimisrvrox> man I dont wanna sit around and wait for the memtest shit
[23:01] <jimisrvrox> I thought it was gonna be quick
[23:01] <Volkodav_> 3-4 should be OK - I do it normally overnight and it runs about 20
[23:02] <Volkodav_> 3 passes should do for starters
[23:02] <jimisrvrox> well its at 70% going on 3
[23:02] <jimisrvrox> I guess it tests every little chemical molecule of your memory eh? heh
[23:02] <Volkodav_> well then let it finish at least one
[23:03] <jimisrvrox> download UB CD
[23:03] <Volkodav_> some times the first pass doesn't catch an error, but subsequent passes will.
[23:03] <jmhealey> yep.   if you start to smell it, shut it off. it melted one ram chip on me once
[23:03] <Volkodav_> lolz
[23:03] <jimisrvrox> heh
[23:04] <jimisrvrox> well im gonan go smoke whlie it finishes to 3 and then im gonna stop it and do what idk
[23:04] <jimisrvrox> maybe get that damn boot cd going
[23:05] <Volkodav_> http://shsc.info/Memtest86
[23:07] <kiosk> hello xubuntuers
[23:08] <kiosk> it is 100.6 degrees and rising here - what like there?
[23:09] <jmhealey> 97 and steady
[23:13] <kiosk> Hey anyone know what's wrong with my mplayer package?
[23:13] <kiosk> Having mad troub with it.
[23:14] <jimisrvrox> ok well its 3 passes now so im gonna reboot
[23:14] <jmhealey> what are you trying to do with mplayer
[23:14] <jmhealey> jimisrvrox: ok
[23:14] <kiosk> wait I said the wrong thing
[23:15] <kiosk> I mean flashplugin-nonfree
[23:15] <kiosk> Trying to view the Kmart flyer right now (flash)
[23:15] <kiosk> but i can't listen to my VOIP voicemail or anything at the moment
[23:15] <jmhealey> how did you install flashplayer-nonfree?
[23:15] <kiosk> sudo apt-get install flash . . .
[23:16] <jmhealey> ok, i had probs when installing flash from within firerox
[23:16] <kiosk> you can do that?
[23:16] <jmhealey> yeah, in FF3
[23:16] <jmhealey> methinks
[23:17] <jmhealey> have you been to medibuntu.org?
[23:17] <kiosk> no didn't know about it
[23:17] <kiosk> I think I have FF2.0.0.14 only
[23:18] <kiosk> I only  have a 300 Mhz is FF3 gonna be slow?
[23:18] <kiosk> 128 MB too
[23:19] <jmhealey> maybe thats why flash is croaking, not enough ram
[23:19] <jmhealey> do other sites work?
[23:19] <kiosk> no it worked before
[23:19] <jmhealey> oh.
[23:19] <kiosk> it stopped working just a few days ago
[23:19] <jmhealey> ah.
[23:19] <kiosk> I reinstalled firefox and flashplugin from apt-get and still nogo
[23:20] <jmhealey> try the medibuntu repositories
[23:20] <jmhealey> thats what i do
[23:26] <kiosk> thanks I'll try that
[23:55] <jimisrvrox> ok jm i got the boot cd
[23:55] <jimisrvrox> I guess I should start the system from the boot cd no?