[04:32] <webwulf> hello?
[05:52] <spikemcc> bonjour , mon ordinateur refuse d'installer windows ou prend 1-5 minutes de plus pour démarer sur windows apres l'essai d'ubuntu !!! hi , my pc refuse to install windows or take 1-5 minutes to boot after I tried ubuntu !!!
[11:04] <RichEdcmpc> highvoltage: ping ?
[11:05] <highvoltage> RichEdcmpc: pong
[11:06] <RichEdcmpc> did you get my email ... limpopo ?
[11:06] <RichEdcmpc> and are you seeing my /msg
[11:06] <highvoltage> RichEdcmpc: not yet, switching over to your window now...
[11:11] <ogra> RichEdcmpc, my atom just arrived but it has 512M/4G :(
[11:13] <ogra> RichEdcmpc, and apparentls the netbook remox wont run on anything smaller
[11:14] <RichEdcmpc> ogra: mutter a problem for every solution it seems
[11:14] <RichEdcmpc> got the EU meeting in a bit ... back on line tomorrow or wed
[11:20] <ogra_> RichEdcmpc, my atom just arrived but it has 512M/4G :(
[11:20] <ogra_> RichEdcmpc, and apparently the netbook remix wont run on anything smaller
[11:21] <stgraber> but your minimal target is still 256M/2G ?
[11:22] <ogra> well, i think thats disputable if intel wants me to base on UNR
[11:22] <ogra> (thats why i pinged Rich ;) )
[11:22] <stgraber> ok, 512MB/4G looks good, less work to do on memory optimization
[11:23] <ogra> well, i'm majorly impressed by the CPU
[11:23] <ogra> +with the 512M and 4G it will fly
[11:23]  * stgraber hopes his cmpc will arrive soon, looks like it'll miss a battery at the beginning :)
[11:23] <ogra> mine did tooo
[11:23] <ogra> but i ave enough batteries around already ... not that bad
[11:24] <stgraber> do they have a problem with their batteries ? :)
[11:24] <ogra> well, they make up the bigger part of shipping costs i guess
[11:28] <stgraber> oh, btw I have finished my LTSP changes to iTalc. You can now use it on standard workstations, LTSP installed on the server (ica+italc on the same computer), LTSP with ica installed in the chroot (and iTalc sending it commands from the server)
[11:28] <stgraber> all that working with avahi and classroom auto-generation
[11:28] <ogra> did you see bug #238480 ?
[11:28] <stgraber> my only problem is that sometimes avahi sends the ipv6-locallink (fe80:xxx) IP instead of the ipv4 and some computers are then missing
[11:29] <stgraber> yep, got the bug mail ... I'll check on my LTSP test setup, I have created a new user yesterday only to test iTalc so I'll just check the directory permissions
[11:29] <stgraber> root@xen01:~# ls -lh /home/test/.config/
[11:29] <stgraber> total 20K
[11:29] <stgraber> drwxr-xr-x 2 test test 4.0K 2008-06-08 10:19 iTALC Solutions
[11:29] <stgraber> looks good here ... maybe he tried to start ica as root ?
[13:11] <stgraber> that ume-launcher thing is exactly what my grandma needed for her lappy :)
[13:11] <stgraber> I just need to tweak it a bit to be localized and change some of the directories displayed in the right sidebar (to include her Documents directory)
[13:14] <ogra> it isnt localized for you ?
[13:14] <ogra> it surely is german for me
[13:14] <ogra> but breaks the ui due to long text
[13:16] <stgraber> items are localized as they are taken from the gnome menu
[13:16] <stgraber> but things like : Settings, remove favorite, log off, ... aren't
[13:17] <ogra> ah, roght
[13:18] <stgraber> I really like it, it's way easier than going through the gnome menu as she previously did. Icons are big and I just need to use Alacarte and remove everything she doesn't need to have the perfect lappy :)
[13:18] <stgraber> and her new lappy is 100% Intel so everything just works fine which is quite a change from her amd/broadcom/ati :)
[16:12]  * stgraber opened 3-4 new bugs against ume-launcher :) let's hope they will consider them and make something good from that
[16:12] <stgraber> I had a quick look at the code and that's C gtk/clutter so nothing I really know ... would have been too easy to have standard gtk components :)
[23:08]  * lns thinks ume-launcher is going to be the future of "simple computing"
[23:17] <ogra_cmpc> its pretty cool but saldy fully relies on GL which means its forced to be a future technology
[23:17] <ogra_cmpc> its unusable slow on non GL environments
[23:19] <lns> awwww
[23:21] <lns> that's pretty pointless... I mean, at least make it so you can turn off GL
[23:23] <ogra_cmpc> the widgetset uses GL
[23:24] <ogra_cmpc> it does pretty good software rendering but its to slow
[23:28] <lns> ugh..another widget set?
[23:28] <lns> can't we all just get along? =p
[23:33] <ogra_cmpc> clutter is a gtk extension
[23:35] <lns> ooo, haven't heard of clutter
[23:35] <lns> is that what ume-launcher uses?
[23:36] <ogra_cmpc> yep
[23:37] <lns> oh..well that's better then ;)
[23:38]  * lns approves =p
[23:38] <ogra_cmpc> phew
[23:39] <lns> I'm loving all this linux attention lately with subnotebooks.... it feels like a major turning point in computing, and it seems to be steering people toward what they really want - an easy to use interface to get online and do simple stuff
[23:40] <lns> Not that it really matters, but even with MS competing with Windows Mobile, the true core of the OS is now more important than ever