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| dasKreeCh | nixternal: ping | 01:09 |
|---|---|---|
| dasKreeCh | Hello | 01:14 |
| nixternal | dasKreeCh: pong? | 01:15 |
| nixternal | gettin' ready to eat | 01:15 |
| nixternal | was workin' on my brother's roof all day fixing what the tornado decided to take away yesterday | 01:16 |
| nixternal | brb | 01:16 |
| dasKreeCh | nixternal: Does the IE in vista have a default visible File Edit view Menu? | 01:16 |
| nixternal | dasKreeCh: I have no clue | 01:40 |
| dasKreeCh | :-P | 01:41 |
| dasKreeCh | whats the point of all the Vista knowledge if you are clueless? | 01:41 |
| nixternal | cuz it is wonderful | 01:42 |
| dasKreeCh | For you. HOw do I get in on that | 01:43 |
| dasKreeCh | Anyone knows if Krita in KDE4 does JPG? | 02:30 |
| santiago-ve | guys is tyhe tutorial day going to happen? | 02:33 |
| jjesse_ | nixternal: i'm glad you are so pro microsoft | 02:33 |
| santiago-ve | or taht's still in progress? | 02:33 |
| * jjesse_ cackles | 02:33 | |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| nixternal | jjesse: it is Micro$haft, get it right! :P | 03:03 |
| Jucato | ahem. Microvell | 03:06 |
| Jucato | you shill | 03:06 |
| nixternal | haha | 03:07 |
| nixternal | if only he realized just how far Linux has gotten because of Microvell | 03:07 |
| nixternal | then maybe he would shut up | 03:07 |
| nixternal | http://www.nixternal.com/ <- working on updating my site | 03:08 |
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| daskreecH | Ahhhh | 07:05 |
| daskreecH | I've been spoilt | 07:05 |
| === mars__ is now known as marseillai | ||
| === hunger_t is now known as hunger | ||
| xt | konsole seems bugged with the beta packages with ubuntu, is it a known issue? Parts of the konsole is not updating with the rest at "redraws" | 10:13 |
| hads | I see the same thing. | 10:19 |
| xt | crazy annoying, since kde4-konsole is so good (: | 10:20 |
| Serega | does anybody use intrepid chroot? | 10:27 |
| \sh | Serega: for my sbuilds, yes | 10:27 |
| Serega | \sh: sbuilds? | 10:28 |
| \sh | Serega: apt-cache show sbuild ;) | 10:28 |
| xt | hads: do you know if it's a kde bug or a kubuntubug? | 10:30 |
| * Serega writes to the TODO: "get acqainted with this stuff" :) | 10:30 | |
| hads | xt: No I'm not sure, I haven't searched the bug trackers. | 10:30 |
| Serega | \sh: could you please tkae a brief look at my problem with pbuilder ant intrepid chroot? http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1042731 | 10:30 |
| \sh | Serega: hmmm...aptitude is evil..use apt-get ,-) | 10:32 |
| \sh | Serega: no really.. | 10:33 |
| \sh | # | 10:33 |
| \sh | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 10:33 |
| \sh | # | 10:33 |
| \sh | pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: libfluidsynth-dev which is a virtual package. | 10:33 |
| \sh | that's what's bugging you | 10:33 |
| Serega | \sh: oohhh | 10:33 |
| Serega | \sh: how did you find that?! | 10:33 |
| Serega | :)_ | 10:33 |
| \sh | Serega: /me can read :) | 10:34 |
| \sh | Serega: and again: please change from aptitude to apt-get in pbuilder | 10:34 |
| Serega | \sh: but what this actually means? there is no such package in intrepid yet? or just a b0rk of aptitude? | 10:35 |
| * Serega modifies .pbuilderrc | 10:35 | |
| \sh | I would say the latter | 10:35 |
| \sh | or libfluidsynth-dev is not installable because of something b0rked | 10:35 |
| \sh | but pbuilder fools you with the wrong message ;) | 10:36 |
| Tonio_ | hi there | 10:37 |
| smarter | Serega: libfluidsynth-dev is in universe, do you have universe enabled in your pbuilderrc? | 10:37 |
| smarter | hey Tonio_ | 10:38 |
| Serega | smarter: if it isn't enabled by "pbuilder create" then no :) | 10:38 |
| Serega | \sh: PBUILDERSATISFYDEPENDS=classic, right? | 10:38 |
| smarter | so enable it and don't blame aptitude :) | 10:38 |
| smarter | Serega: doesn't really matter | 10:39 |
| Serega | smarter: thank you | 10:40 |
| * Serega can't find where the chroot actually lays :) | 10:40 | |
| smarter | /var/<something/pbuilder I think | 10:41 |
| smarter | but you have to enable universe in the pbuilderrc iirc | 10:41 |
| \sh | smarter: it matters...aptitude is evil :) and does things you don't expect... | 10:42 |
| Serega | iirc? | 10:42 |
| smarter | I had this issue some time ago and the error message of pbuilder really confused me :p | 10:42 |
| Serega | usually I use apt-get&frined | 10:42 |
| Serega | *friends | 10:42 |
| smarter | Serega: IIRC -> If I Recall Correctly | 10:42 |
| smarter | \sh: I've always used aptitude and neved had a problem :p | 10:43 |
| smarter | and I think that Debian recommends aptitude | 10:43 |
| \sh | smarter: well, the buildds are not using it, so it behaves totally different from that...I mean it doesn't really matter, because pbuilder do behave differently, too :) | 10:46 |
| Serega | thank you, guys, you re the best | 10:46 |
| Serega | *are | 10:47 |
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| Jucato | gah! now I have to think of a different site idea... nixternal got mine (except for the chicago outline...) | 11:46 |
| nixternal | mornin' | 12:22 |
| nixternal | this early stuff is for the birds! | 12:22 |
| * Jucato chirps | 12:23 | |
| nixternal | no doubt | 12:23 |
| Jucato | oh wait, it's 19:18 here | 12:23 |
| nixternal | 06:23 | 12:23 |
| nixternal | woke up at 05:00 | 12:23 |
| jussi01 | 1425 here | 12:25 |
| jussi01 | @now helsinki | 12:25 |
| ubottu | jussi01: Current time in Europe/Helsinki: June 09 2008, 14:25:54 - Current meeting: Michigan LoCo Bug Jam | 12:25 |
| Jucato | @now manila | 12:26 |
| ubottu | Jucato: Current time in Asia/Manila: June 09 2008, 19:26:57 - Current meeting: Michigan LoCo Bug Jam | 12:26 |
| Jucato | not that far :) | 12:27 |
| nixternal | hrmm, KMail doesn't work with Exchange server at all does it? | 12:49 |
| Riddell | yuriy: I don't think we're going to find a time for tutorials day which satisfies everyone, I think we'll have to drop your talk :( | 12:49 |
| ScottK | nixternal: IIRC it'll work for IMAP mail, but not any of the 'groupware' stuff. | 12:51 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: maybe txwikinger can do it instead? | 12:51 |
| nixternal | groovy | 12:51 |
| nixternal | how can a Linux shop be using MES | 12:51 |
| txwikinger | what? | 12:51 |
| Nightrose | txwikinger: bug talk | 12:52 |
| Nightrose | for the tutorial day | 12:52 |
| txwikinger | Nightrose: Isn't that on Sunday? | 12:52 |
| nixternal | out of 40+ people, I would say 10 use Microsoft, the rest use Ubuntu or Xubuntu, and I will use...guess? :) | 12:52 |
| Nightrose | it is i think | 12:52 |
| txwikinger | What time? I am flying back from Germany that day | 12:52 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: ^ | 12:52 |
| * txwikinger is lookin gfor his itenary | 12:54 | |
| Nightrose | hmm i wanted to try mailody but seems like i can't because akonadi server wont start and i also can't start it using the akonaditray - anyone experiencing the same problem? | 12:54 |
| * txwikinger has far too much paperwork | 12:56 | |
| nixternal | Nightrose: you have to stop apparmor | 12:56 |
| nixternal | re: look at what wstephens and I are talking about | 12:57 |
| Nightrose | nixternal: ahhh thx - yea seen it | 12:57 |
| * txwikinger has found the disconcerting letter from the Army | 12:59 | |
| txwikinger | Well I am supposed to be back at the airport 20:40 UK time on Sunday | 12:59 |
| txwikinger | Anything after 22:00 UK probably works | 13:00 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: currently down as 23:00UTC | 13:00 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: That is midnight BST, right? | 13:00 |
| nixternal | Riddell: is there a Tutorials Day page yet? | 13:01 |
| txwikinger | Yes it is | 13:01 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: yes | 13:02 |
| Riddell | nixternal: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay/Prep | 13:02 |
| txwikinger | Riddell: yes ok... if yuriy is not able to do it, I can jump in... barring any plane crashes | 13:02 |
| Riddell | txwikinger: excellent, yuriy that ok with you? | 13:02 |
| nixternal | ok, I am tired of the Konqi "Restore/Do Not Restore" stuff every time I fire up konqi in kde 4.1 | 13:03 |
| Nightrose | nixternal: +1 | 13:03 |
| Riddell | +1 | 13:03 |
| * txwikinger thinks nixternal should not play with fire so much | 13:03 | |
| * Hobbsee sets the vistalover on fire | 13:04 | |
| * txwikinger cheers Hobbsee on | 13:04 | |
| nixternal | hahahaha | 13:04 |
| Hobbsee | rotten vistalover. | 13:04 |
| * Nightrose gets the fire brigade :P | 13:04 | |
| nixternal | dang txwikinger, thanks for the love! | 13:04 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: :P | 13:04 |
| nixternal | that was funny | 13:04 |
| txwikinger | nixternal: Always concerned about your health :D | 13:04 |
| nixternal | I could just picture him sitting there like beavis and butthead yelling "fire! fire! heh heh fire!" | 13:05 |
| Nightrose | haha | 13:05 |
| nixternal | first day of real paid work, and I am ready to quit :P | 13:05 |
| nixternal | nixternal->work(); | 13:12 |
| nixternal | sounds scary | 13:12 |
| nixternal | later! | 13:12 |
| txwikinger | Function not found error :P | 13:13 |
| nixternal | exactly! | 13:13 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: filelight couldn't sync incase you missed that | 13:22 |
| etretyak | For the Tutorials Day we need to have finished Intrepid Specs (for the first part: Getting involved)? Isn't it? | 13:27 |
| etretyak | Riddell: ^^^ | 13:27 |
| Riddell | etretyak: we have specs | 13:29 |
| etretyak | Are they already approved? | 13:29 |
| etretyak | Or it is not necessary? | 13:29 |
| Riddell | we should be responsible enough to effectively approve our own specs | 13:30 |
| jjesse | good morning | 13:51 |
| etretyak | Hi jjesse | 13:56 |
| jjesse | hello etretyak | 14:02 |
| etretyak | Riddell: so how about Todo page? Who should update it? I want to start development for Intrepid ;-) But I don't know what task can/should I take... | 14:03 |
| Riddell | etretyak: updating that is on my list of things to do today | 14:05 |
| etretyak | Riddell: great! thanks! | 14:06 |
| jjesse | a todo list that contains todos | 14:07 |
| jjesse | i love that | 14:07 |
| * Riddell cheers as kdebase-workspace builds in intrepid | 14:08 | |
| * jjesse cheers as Riddell cheers | 14:08 | |
| Hobbsee | \o/ | 14:13 |
| yuriy | Riddell, txwikinger: sure | 14:21 |
| yuriy | Riddell: going to move the rest of 4.0.5 to backports soon? | 14:33 |
| Riddell | yuriy: I moved kdebindings-kde4 kdesdk-kde4 | 14:34 |
| Riddell | anything else missing? | 14:34 |
| yuriy | Riddell: not picking up kdebindings from archive.u.c here | 14:36 |
| Riddell | yuriy: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebindings-kde4 says it's there | 14:39 |
| Riddell | probably just needs published | 14:39 |
| yuriy | why does that say main? | 14:42 |
| Riddell | consequence of being moved from a PPA I guess | 14:43 |
| Riddell | backports is all unsupported so it doesn't mean anything | 14:43 |
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| Arby | Riddell: do I need to do anything more with ktorrent or is it uploaded now? | 15:17 |
| Riddell | Arby: seems to be dep-wait on Dependencies: | 15:20 |
| Riddell | libqca2-dev | 15:20 |
| Arby | Riddell: which means it won't build until that package is available, correct? | 15:20 |
| Riddell | until it's in main | 15:21 |
| Riddell | hmm, fancy writing a main inclusion report? | 15:21 |
| Arby | Riddell: no idea how but I can try | 15:21 |
| Arby | well when I get home from work I can | 15:21 |
| Arby | Riddell: is that process documented somewhere? | 15:21 |
| * Arby pokes the wiki | 15:22 | |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionProcess should explain it | 15:22 |
| Riddell | random example https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportLibnova | 15:22 |
| Arby | Riddell: ok I'll work on that this evening | 15:25 |
| Arby | expect the usual flurry of questions | 15:25 |
| Riddell | thanks Arby, sorry that this has ended up more complex than I expected | 15:26 |
| Arby | Riddell: no problem | 15:26 |
| Arby | I just get to learn lots of things all at once | 15:26 |
| Arby | :) | 15:26 |
| Arby | I'm thinking about trying for membership sometime soon so this is all good stuff | 15:27 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: around? | 15:27 |
| Riddell | Arby: great | 15:28 |
| Nightrose | Arby: if you need help like review of your wiki page please say so | 15:30 |
| Arby | Nightrose: thanks but I haven't even started yet :) | 15:30 |
| Nightrose | Arby: hehe yea thought so | 15:30 |
| Arby | just something that's in my mind "at some point" | 15:30 |
| Nightrose | was more an offer for when you wrote it | 15:31 |
| Arby | and much appreciated to :) | 15:31 |
| Nightrose | anyway - /me takes a nap | 15:31 |
| Arby | I need to gather more people who've seen my work | 15:31 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: since I have to go, take a look at this screencast: http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1437949_gluha/kgrubeditor.ogv | 15:31 |
| Arby | as it's mostly riddell that gets everything currently | 15:31 |
| Artemis_Fowl | seele: nothing really important, only the things we were talking about | 15:32 |
| daskreech | Riddell: Can Kubuntu request items for the Canonical store? | 17:47 |
| Riddell | daskreech: we can try, got any good ideas? | 17:51 |
| daskreech | Kubuntu Bikinis :) | 17:51 |
| daskreech | Well how does the proces work? | 17:52 |
| daskreech | do we make items up and send them in to the store or can we request kubuntu variants of what they have? | 17:52 |
| daskreech | If we make a suggestion for someting would it just be branded Ubuntu and put up? | 17:52 |
| Riddell | we'd probably have to come up with a design | 17:56 |
| daskreech | Ok sounds good | 17:57 |
| * daskreech votes kubuntu Bikins :) | 17:57 | |
| Riddell | http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kubuntu-tutorials-day.png | 17:57 |
| Riddell | better graphic design skills welcome | 17:57 |
| Nightrose | daskreech: will you wear it and make photos? :P | 18:05 |
| Nightrose | but yea - it would be cool to be able to buy kubuntu merch there | 18:05 |
| daskreech | Nightrose: not needed they have no human imagery on the store | 18:06 |
| daskreech | Ironic eh? | 18:06 |
| Nightrose | ;-) | 18:06 |
| Riddell | how does this look? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay | 18:08 |
| daskreech | I was also pitching Kubuntu flavours body paint but I dunno that's a harder sell :-D | 18:08 |
| Nightrose | Riddell: looks good :) - maybe mention what the goal and target group is? | 18:10 |
| Nightrose | daskreech: kubuntu flavoured? /me wonders how that would taste like ;-) | 18:11 |
| daskreech | Squash the beasties :) | 18:12 |
| Arby | Riddell: maybe some links to How to triage in the reading section? | 18:12 |
| Nightrose | What's happening in Intrepid and how can you join? Artwork, documentation, packaging, programming, and more <- last comma should go | 18:13 |
| Riddell | Arby: URL? | 18:17 |
| Riddell | found it | 18:20 |
| yuriy | HelpingWithBugs and Bugs/HowToTriage | 18:20 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: why couldn't filelight sync? | 18:25 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: different .orig files | 18:26 |
| * apachelogger is wondering why | 18:26 | |
| apachelogger | well, I'll merge then | 18:26 |
| yuriy | tutorials day in here, not #ubuntu-classroom? | 18:28 |
| yuriy | I'm looking at txwikinger's talk from last time and it looks like the ask questions in another channel style they usually do for these things in #ubuntu-classroom + #ubuntu-classroom-chat would have been helpful | 18:30 |
| Nightrose | true but it is a good idea to get people into this channel - some of them will stay probably | 18:31 |
| txwikinger | yuriy: That is very helpful if you have a lot of people like during UbuntuWeek | 18:32 |
| txwikinger | If there are not too many people asking question it might just create another layer of administration which does not necessarily brings additional benefit | 18:33 |
| txwikinger | So.. I am fine with either | 18:33 |
| daskreech | plus nixternal can probably out type however many people are in there asking questions | 18:34 |
| txwikinger | haha | 18:35 |
| yuriy | txwikinger: looks like you ran out of time, good thing it's an hour this time | 18:37 |
| txwikinger | yuriy: Yes .. 1/2 was very tight last time | 18:37 |
| txwikinger | And we have now some additional stuff to refer to | 18:37 |
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| Riddell | etretyak, all: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | 19:44 |
| ScottK | So I was at my brother-in-law's yesterday chatting with the boyfriend of a neice. It was nice to find out he uses Kubuntu. I've known him for a couple of years, but it's never come up before. | 19:48 |
| Riddell | it's spreading | 19:48 |
| ScottK | He was pretty shocked to discover we've switched to KDE 4.1 for Intrepid though. | 19:48 |
| === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Back to merging! | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Teams | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay | ||
| ScottK | I explianed the rationale and while I think he understood why, he's pretty skeptical about how it will turn out (he's tried the 4.1 beta packages for Hardy). | 19:49 |
| Riddell | we need to get our messaging clear about intrepid, it's ment to be a scary/exciting release, that's the whole point | 19:49 |
| daskreech | Intrepid ? | 19:50 |
| jjesse_ | hence the name intrepid? | 19:52 |
| ScottK | "The release for Intrepid Adventurers" or something like that. | 19:52 |
| daskreech | ScottK: with a nice SVG pic of a ibex in a bushjacket with a magnifying glass | 19:55 |
| ScottK | With a tiger sneaking up behind. | 19:58 |
| daskreech | :-) | 20:01 |
| ScottK | Intrepid Ibex in the jungle of KDE4. Sometimes you eat the tiger, sometimes the tiger eats you. Which will it be? Find out. Upgrade today. | 20:03 |
| Arby | Riddell: is it libqca2 or libqca2-dev that needs an MIR? | 20:03 |
| Arby | or both? | 20:03 |
| daskreech | Ha ha ha that's a great tagline | 20:03 |
| daskreech | and would stop the insane cursing that I heard about LTS | 20:04 |
| ScottK | Arby: MIR the source package. | 20:04 |
| Riddell | qca2 | 20:04 |
| Arby | so this then http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/q/qca2 ? | 20:05 |
| Riddell | yes | 20:06 |
| jjesse_ | ScottK: that's a great slogan... can i steal it :) | 20:10 |
| ScottK | Sure. | 20:10 |
| === Czessi__ is now known as Czessi | ||
| Arby | is there a list somewhere of the complete list of supported architectures? | 20:13 |
| Arby | I only see i386 and amd64 for the newest version | 20:13 |
| Arby | should there be more? | 20:13 |
| Arby | or are powerpc etc not officially supported | 20:14 |
| ScottK | Only i386 and AMD64 are officially supported. | 20:17 |
| ScottK | With the exception of hppa, the unofficial archs are all in pretty good shape. | 20:17 |
| daskreech | #ubuntu-ps3 :) | 20:18 |
| Arby | so I can say that it is available for all architectures yes? | 20:18 |
| daskreech | not officially | 20:19 |
| daskreech | but it can be installed for most yes | 20:19 |
| daskreech | all would be netBSD | 20:19 |
| Arby | next question, how do I find out if any binaries run as root/suid | 20:21 |
| Arby | ? | 20:21 |
| ScottK | Arby: Back one question: You can see here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/qca2/2.0.0-4 that it built on all archs. | 20:22 |
| Arby | ScottK: ah, gotcha. thanks | 20:23 |
| nixternal | man, I haven't used KDE 3 in a long time | 20:27 |
| * Nightrose likes the kubuntu(-de) love there: http://daniel.holba.ch/5-a-day-stats/ ;-) | 20:29 | |
| Arby | how do I choose between frenetic/vigorous/calm/dead for upstream development? | 20:43 |
| ScottK | You look at how often they release and how active they are and make a judgement. | 20:43 |
| Arby | upstream in this case and should upstream be kde or http://delta.affinix.com/qca | 20:44 |
| Arby | gah gibberish sorry | 20:44 |
| Arby | should upstream be kde or http://delta.affinix.com/qca | 20:44 |
| ScottK | qca | 20:44 |
| Arby | ok | 20:44 |
| Arby | would that be considered calm or vigorous --> http://delta.affinix.com/download/qca/2.0/ ? | 20:47 |
| Arby | I'd say calm, regular and frequent releases of various components | 20:47 |
| Arby | opinions welcome | 20:47 |
| ScottK | I'd go with calm | 20:49 |
| Arby | thanks | 20:49 |
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| etretyak | Riddell: I want to take "guidance mount config".. and "system-config-printer-kde" | 21:06 |
| Arby | for this MIR if the debian source package has unittests that are run by make test. | 21:18 |
| Arby | does that mean tests are run in the build | 21:18 |
| Arby | ? | 21:18 |
| Arby | Riddell: MIR so far https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportQCA2#preview | 22:06 |
| Arby | and anyone else who doesn't mind advising | 22:06 |
| danimo | hi | 22:06 |
| Arby | I know the bug number isn't done yet | 22:06 |
| Arby | I need help finding the remaining information | 22:06 |
| daskreech | Are 4.0.5 packages up? | 22:09 |
| Serega | has anyone already packaged kcoloredit from the extragear? | 22:09 |
| Nightrose | daskreech: yury packaged them afaik | 22:10 |
| Nightrose | yuriy even | 22:10 |
| daskreech | so should I take silence on kubuntu.org to mean they are not fit for the pudding yet? | 22:10 |
| Nightrose | *shrug* | 22:11 |
| * Nightrose is on beta 1 ;-) | 22:11 | |
| yuriy | daskreech: they're in backports, i think that's as fit as they're gonna get | 22:11 |
| daskreech | yuriy: So there should be a kubuntu.org post? | 22:12 |
| yuriy | daskreech: dunno. Riddell? | 22:12 |
| Serega | can I already upgrade to intrepid? | 22:13 |
| * Serega dislikes chroot | 22:13 | |
| Nightrose | Serega: last i heard it was not advisable to do that yet | 22:14 |
| Serega | ah... :( | 22:15 |
| danimo | while packaging an old kde3 application (new) I found the admin dir in the upstream package is outdated | 22:18 |
| danimo | how can I force debuild to run make -f admin/Makefile.common after applying the patches? | 22:18 |
| danimo | new == from scratch | 22:18 |
| Serega | danimo: redefine patch target? | 22:18 |
| danimo | Serega: hmm? | 22:19 |
| Serega | danimo: what patch system do you use in the package? | 22:19 |
| danimo | Serega: so far I simply did a manual patch between the two admin dirs (the existing one and then new one that I took from svn), and placed it into admin/patches | 22:20 |
| * Serega have never seen kde3 packages | 22:21 | |
| Serega | *has | 22:21 |
| danimo | Riddell? apachelogger? \sh? Czessi? :-) | 22:22 |
| Serega | why does cdbs source tar contains both Makefile.am and Makefile.in... :( | 22:25 |
| danimo | Serega: hmm? | 22:25 |
| Serega | danimo: just complaining :) | 22:25 |
| Serega | danimo: you can unpack https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/cdbs/0.4.52ubuntu1/+files/cdbs_0.4.52ubuntu1.tar.gz and see this | 22:26 |
| Serega | ah... damn | 22:27 |
| Serega | time to sleep :) | 22:27 |
| Riddell | m hi danimo | 22:28 |
| Riddell | Serega: KDE 3 source tars do too | 22:28 |
| Riddell | yuriy: yo, lets | 22:29 |
| Serega | Riddell: thats right, it should be :) unless source is distributed without configure script generated at all | 22:30 |
| danimo | Riddell: read my whinings? | 22:30 |
| * Serega just missed | 22:30 | |
| Serega | hm... looks like cdbs doesn't support kde4 class yet | 22:32 |
| Riddell | danimo: I would just run make -f debian/rules buildprep if it uses cdbs kde.mk | 22:32 |
| Serega | or maybe kcoloredit should be considered a 'cmake' package | 22:33 |
| danimo | it does | 22:33 |
| danimo | Riddell: it does that? | 22:33 |
| Riddell | Serega: for kde 4 packages get kde.mk from kde4libs | 22:34 |
| Riddell | in intrepid | 22:34 |
| Riddell | danimo: pardon? | 22:34 |
| Serega | Riddell: thanks, Jonathan! | 22:34 |
| danimo | Riddell: but that doesn't apply patches and run make -f admin/Makefile.common | 22:36 |
| Riddell | danimo: that's exactly what it should do | 22:37 |
| Riddell | what does it do? | 22:37 |
| danimo | Riddell: doesn't apply patches first | 22:38 |
| danimo | Riddell: maybe I just do something wrong :) | 22:38 |
| Riddell | danimo: can you pastebin your debian/rules file? | 22:38 |
| daskreech | Riddell: should 4.0.5 be on Kubuntu.org ? | 22:38 |
| Riddell | daskreech: it will be when the web cache refreshes | 22:39 |
| daskreech | ^_^ | 22:39 |
| danimo | Riddell: only includes debhelper.mk, autotools.mk and kde.mk | 22:40 |
| Riddell | danimo: if you look at the bottom of /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/kde.mk | 22:41 |
| Riddell | buildprep should be pretty clear | 22:41 |
| danimo | yepp | 22:41 |
| Riddell | danimo: you should also include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk | 22:42 |
| danimo | ah! | 22:42 |
| danimo | yay | 22:43 |
| Serega | yuriy: are you really already packaged kcoloredit? | 22:45 |
| danimo | damn, almost :) | 22:45 |
| danimo | /usr/bin/make -C obj-i486-linux-gnu -k distclean | 22:46 |
| danimo | make: Entering an unknown directory | 22:46 |
| danimo | make: *** obj-i486-linux-gnu: No such file or directory. Stop. | 22:46 |
| danimo | Riddell: any idea how that can happen? | 22:46 |
| Riddell | mmm | 22:48 |
| Riddell | cdbs should just do the right thing | 22:48 |
| danimo | yepp | 22:48 |
| danimo | should | 22:48 |
| daskreech | >_< | 22:49 |
| daskreech | Are we going to patch Kmix to have middle click be open Mixer instead of mute for KDE4 ? | 22:49 |
| Riddell | daskreech: why? | 22:49 |
| Arby | Riddell: when you can spare a minute. need help finding the remaining information for MIR https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportQCA2#preview | 22:50 |
| Arby | doesn't have to be tonight | 22:50 |
| daskreech | cause that's what it did in KDE3 | 22:50 |
| randy_ | Is KDE 4.1 final in Kubuntu next month, will it be possible to customize keyboard shortcuts again? And will it restore the Alt-F1 key for invoking the Kmenu? My understanding is that other distros using KDE 4.1 beta 1 have these things working, but Hardy doesn't. | 22:51 |
| Riddell | danimo: try not including autotools.mk ? | 22:51 |
| txwikinger | Is it already known that kde4libs-bin has a dependency problem on http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu main | 22:53 |
| Riddell | Arby: Any binaries running as root or suid/sgid ? Any daemons ? should be no | 22:53 |
| Arby | Riddell: OK but how would I find that out | 22:53 |
| Riddell | Arby: look at the files in the packages | 22:54 |
| Riddell | in debian/*install | 22:54 |
| Riddell | there's only one binary and that's not run as root | 22:54 |
| Riddell | nor is a daemon | 22:54 |
| danimo | Riddell: nope | 22:55 |
| danimo | didn't help | 22:55 |
| daskreech | randy_: None of that stuff was in beta 1 I think | 22:55 |
| Riddell | Arby: "Does it handle incoming network data ?" not sure on that one, I don't think it does | 22:55 |
| daskreech | they were added a few days later so you should be good | 22:55 |
| Serega | Riddell: did you mean debian/cdbs/kde.mk from the kde4libs? | 22:56 |
| Riddell | Serega: yes | 22:56 |
| Riddell | and the other files in that directory | 22:56 |
| Serega | :( | 22:56 |
| randy_ | daskreech: Thanks...so I'll look for the change in the next update...or 4.1 final at the latest. | 22:56 |
| Serega | understand | 22:56 |
| Riddell | danimo: are you able to put the package somewhere for me to try? | 22:57 |
| Serega | Riddell: I thought it is already merged to the cdbs | 22:57 |
| Serega | Riddell: why not? maybe I merge thi into cdbs? | 22:57 |
| Arby | Riddell: I assume it doesn't process binary data? | 22:57 |
| Riddell | Arby: I'd assume it does, it's all about cryptography which is full of binary data | 22:57 |
| Riddell | "source code review performed ?" I always answer no | 22:58 |
| Arby | ah, ignorance strikes again. the examples are all video and audio | 22:58 |
| Riddell | "always work out of the box without configuration" else it's a pretty poor package | 22:58 |
| Arby | Riddell: how would I find out what if any debconf questions it asks? | 23:01 |
| Riddell | if there's any .config files in debian/ in the packaging | 23:01 |
| Arby | seems not then | 23:02 |
| Arby | Riddell: look OK now? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportQCA2?action=show | 23:04 |
| Arby | apart from the bug number | 23:05 |
| Riddell | Arby: perfect | 23:05 |
| Arby | cool I'll file the bug then | 23:05 |
| Arby | Is that it or do I need to bug somebody to process it? | 23:05 |
| Riddell | you could politely poke pitti | 23:06 |
| danimo | Riddell: http://developer.kde.org/~danimo/kubuntu/kovpn | 23:06 |
| * Serega carefully touches Riddell | 23:06 | |
| Riddell | danimo: works for me using.. | 23:14 |
| Riddell | include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk | 23:14 |
| Riddell | include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk | 23:14 |
| Riddell | include /usr/share/cdbs/1/class/kde.mk | 23:14 |
| Riddell | danimo: rm debian/*.ex debian/*.E | 23:18 |
| Riddell | danimo: rm debian/*.ex debian/*.EX | 23:18 |
| Riddell | /usr/share/applnk/Utilities/kovpn.desktop should be patched to be xdg standard | 23:18 |
| Arby | Riddell: all done. | 23:18 |
| Arby | Riddell: I don't understand step 5 on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionProcess | 23:18 |
| Arby | how do I do that and do I have to wait for review from ubuntu-mir first? | 23:19 |
| Riddell | Arby: you're done that, it already is a build-dep for ktorrent | 23:20 |
| Arby | ah ok I see | 23:20 |
| Arby | Riddell: what's up next for packaging/merging then? | 23:20 |
| Arby | (tomorrow) | 23:20 |
| Riddell | any of these I guess ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/4.0.80/src/extragear | 23:22 |
| danimo | Riddell: which would be donw how? | 23:23 |
| Arby | Riddell: ok, same process? i.e. use old debian directory and fix as required | 23:23 |
| Riddell | Arby: use the debian directory from the current -kde4 packaging | 23:24 |
| Riddell | or see if Debian has a kde 4 package | 23:24 |
| Arby | ok | 23:24 |
| * Arby --> sleep | 23:25 | |
| Riddell | danimo: add a Categories= line if it doesn't have one | 23:25 |
| Riddell | add a install/kovpn:: rule | 23:25 |
| Riddell | with mkdir -p /usr/share/applications/kde3; cp ./src/kovpn.desktop /usr/share/applications/kde3/ | 23:25 |
| danimo | Riddell: works, tnx | 23:34 |
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