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mwhudsonjohan: ah, we've found the problem00:25
mwhudson(i'm tempted to say "it's called subversion", but that would be a bit mean)00:28
johanmwhudson_: ouch, what was it?01:45
mwhudson_johan: pysvn.Client.update ignores the ignore_externals parameter02:09
mwhudson_johan: hopefully will have a fix by tomorrow02:09
jameshperhaps you accidentally had ignore_ignore_externals set?02:24
wgrantIt's Subversion, so it'll do things the wrong way. There's probably a dont_ignore_ignore_externals which defaults to False.02:27
mwhudson_jamesh: no, it's pretty clearly a pysvn bug02:28
mwhudson_oh sorry, you were already in sarcastic mode02:28
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mrevellmorning all09:12
leoquantmorning mrvell09:12
thekornhi, is there a way to get a list of all people/teams auto-subscribed to all bugs in ubuntu?09:16
Hobbseemorning mrevell!09:16
jameshthekorn: the portlet on the left of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+subscribe is probably what you're after09:22
thekornjamesh, yes, thanks, one more question: why do users with usernames ending with '-deactivatedaccount' still appear on this list?09:26
jameshthekorn: probably because the code for the portlet isn't filtering them out like it should09:27
jameshyou could file a bug report09:27
thekornjamesh, ok, will do, thanks09:27
jameshthanks09:27
wgrantWhy are they renamed -deactivatedaccount, when they aren't usually? To free up the namespace?09:27
jameshwgrant: yes09:29
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mptGoooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!12:02
sigurdga_Hello. Is it possible to update translations.lauchpad.net, so that the Ubuntu-link in the tag-cloud does not point at Gutsy?12:15
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jameshthe translation focus for Ubuntu seems to still be set to Gutsy12:19
jameshjtv/danilo: ^^^ is this something you can fix?12:19
jtvjamesh: yes, but let us discuss it first.12:21
jtvIt's normal practice for us to keep the translation focus pointing at an older release; we copy translations to the newer release from time to time.12:21
jameshright.  I guess it is something for the Ubuntu guys to decide12:21
jameshfair enough12:21
jtvIn general, translation focus is the oldest Ubuntu release that is still "actively supported," as seen from the translations point of view.12:22
sigurdgaI was a bit worried when a (new) translator started to work on Gutsy12:22
sigurdgaOk12:22
jameshof course, people might not be able to get 100% coverage without doing some translation on the newer releases after the copying process12:22
jtvjamesh: that is true, but we're working on a more effective solution for that.12:23
jameshcool12:23
sigurdgaThanks for the explanation :)12:24
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RhondaI am having repeated troubles with merging of an account, it's related to a translation that is sitting with the account I want to merge from, from what I got told so far.15:54
RhondaIs it possible to somehow request a manual merge for it? If so, where and how?15:54
salgadoRhonda, file a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad15:59
Rhondasalgado: Thanks,  added.16:04
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* andrea-bs gives thanks mrevell for the interview :)17:23
AnMasterhas lanuchpad changed pushing? before it was: ssh+bzr, but now I get an error?17:23
AnMasterI did put up my ssh key id17:24
AnMasterpublic key that is17:24
andrea-bsAnMaster: which error?17:24
mrevellandrea-bs: Hey, my pleasure :)17:24
AnMasterandrea-bs, connection refused17:24
andrea-bsAnMaster: the full message?17:25
AnMastera sec17:26
andrea-bssurely17:27
* AnMaster closed terminal by mistake17:27
AnMasterUsing saved location: bzr+ssh://anmaster@bazaar.launchpad.net/~anmaster/envbot/nick-tracking/17:27
AnMasterConnection refused.17:27
AnMasterthat's all17:27
AnMasterandrea-bs, and when I look on launchpad. on a new branch I just created I see "  bzr push lp:~anmaster/envbot/starttls"17:29
AnMasterwhy no longer use bzr+ssh?17:29
andrea-bslp: is a shorter way, but it's the same17:29
AnMasterandrea-bs, except lp gives another error:17:30
AnMaster"run "bzr launchpad-login YOUR_ID" and try again."17:30
andrea-bsAnMaster: is your ssh key in your ~/.ssh directory?17:30
AnMasterandrea-bs, of course it is. I use ssh key extensively17:30
AnMasterso ssh-agent is running too17:30
AnMasteranyway it suddenly works now17:31
andrea-bsrun "bzr launchpad-login YOUR_ID" and try again. ← you have to run this command to push to launchpad using lp:...17:31
AnMasterandrea-bs, yes and why I wonder?17:31
AnMasterto me that makes no sense17:31
andrea-bsbecause "lp:..." is a simple alias to "bzr+ssh://nick@bazaar.launchpad.net/"17:32
AnMasterok... why should launchpad have it's own protocol alias I wonder17:33
andrea-bsyou need to insert your nick both with bzr+ssh: and lp:17:33
andrea-bsI think it's because there are too many users and launchpad should check every ssh key17:34
andrea-bsthis procedure can be very slow17:34
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cr3hey folks, if I'm getting the following error for a project hosted on LP, does that mean it's corrupted server side: bzr: ERROR: Revision {email-20080417161838-a2tfnk26kx1q7vjf} not present in "revisions.kndx".19:42
cr3might it be possible that the repository might be corrupted server side? if so, must it be fixed server side?19:51
kikocr3, do you have a branch of that repo? if so, just push --overwrite might fix it.20:12
cr3kiko: that returns the same image as when I try to commit: bzr: ERROR: Unknown bzrdir format: ''20:14
kikothe same error. hmmm, what did abentley say?20:15
kikowhat does bzr info on the remote repo say, in a paste?20:15
cr3kiko: aha, I changed my branch.conf from using sftp: to lp: and that worked!20:15
kikothat means bzr+ssh 20:15
kikobut cool20:16
cr3kiko: dude, I could kiss you right now! I thought this would ruin my afternoon but you've given me hope of getting some work done!20:16
kikoheh20:16
kikoerr no need for kissing, I feel appreciated already20:16
kikocr3, how about in return you tell me how to get sendmail to send mail through port 25?20:17
cr3kiko: there might be a potential for me to know this, one moment :)20:24
kikocr3, it's okay, it was mostly a joke20:24
kikosomething's busted in a server's sendmail and I can't fix it20:25
cr3kiko: mail servers were once my expertise, so I might prove to be useful20:25
cr3kiko: EtienneG is also very good with mail servers, so you might be able to get some assistance20:27
abentleykiko: cr3 apparently had this bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/205156 20:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 205156 in bzr "KnitRepository.insert_data_stream() copies data in improper order" [Critical,Triaged] 20:32
kikoabentley, I hate that20:32
abentleykiko: You can avoid it by ensuring both branches are packs.  (or knits, I suppose)20:33
SyntuxGood day, If someone translated of an app that is not set up for translation in LP, what s/he should do ? 20:58
beunokiko, abentley, maybe a warning in code.lp.net for branches that are still in older formats would help push people to upgrade?21:00
abentleybeuno: Like some kind of nag email?21:00
beunoabentley, it could be something *in* the branch itself in the page, and, well, nag mail would be better  :)21:01
abentleybeuno: I can discuss that with the code team.21:02
beunoabentley, cool. Would really start to cut down on recurring knit incidents21:03
kikoSyntux, talk to the app maintainers, or translate in Ubuntu.21:04
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domashi! how to file branch-specific bug?22:00
mtaylordomas: you just file it!22:00
mtaylordomas: the project has to use launchpad as its bug tracker, I believe, for that to work22:01
domasmtaylor: but people would be annoyed if I'd track 'private' branch specific bugs 22:01
beunowell, I'm not sure it goes both ways, as in "this bug is for the branch", as opposed to "this branch fixes this bug"22:01
beunoit's probably a project bug, and you can specify it's in trunk, or even a specific revision22:02
domasso generally, if I want something standalone, I have to create new project for that?22:02
beunodomas, yes, that's the drill22:02
domasdamn :)22:03
mtaylorhm. this might get a little confusing then22:03
beunoin fact, branches are uploaded to projects22:03
beunoor +junk22:03
beunowhich is not very encouraging  :)22:03
mtayloryes - be we're about to have a flurry of "forks" of MySQL uploaded 22:03
mtaylorsome of which will have their own bugs. 22:03
mtaylorinteresting problem, domas 22:04
beunomtaylor, that's an interesting use case22:04
* beuno pokes kiko 22:04
domasbeuno: I'm maintaining one mysql fork22:04
domas:)22:04
mtaylorI know of three active forks that have been uploaded already22:04
mtaylorI guess it would be easier if we were using launchpad for bugs...22:04
mtaylordomas: convince people we need to migrate bug trackers!22:05
mtaylor:)22:05
domasfunny haha22:05
kikomtaylor, take ~mysql, it's free now.22:05
domasmtaylor: yeah, in theory a fork should have a separate project22:05
flyingparchmentafter i push to bzr, when i try to view the revision on the website, it's really, really slow.  is that normal?22:05
domasflyingparchment: I'm getting 404s now22:06
domasit is even more than normal%)22:06
beunoflyingparchment, yes, Loggerhead is slowish for now, but there should be an upgrade to it soon  :)22:06
domasbeuno: loggerhead throws 404s22:06
domas(thought you may be interested ;-)22:07
flyingparchmenti got two 'please try again' messages ;-)22:07
mtaylorkiko: thanks22:07
beunodomas, what URL?22:08
flyingparchmentoh, now it's 40422:08
domasbeuno: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~wikimedia/mysql/mysql-5.0/revision/264122:08
flyingparchmentbeuno: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~wikimedia/mysql/mysql-5.0/revision/264122:08
beunoit must be down again22:08
domasflyingparchment: ;-D22:08
domaswho are you?!!?22:08
beunomwhudson, poke  ^22:08
mtaylorkiko: got it. thanks22:08
beunonot sure he's up yet22:09
beunokiko, is there anyone else who can revive loggerhead?22:09
mwhudsonbeuno: looking at it22:09
beunomwhudson, :)22:09
kikomtaylor, rock on!22:10
domasmtaylor: I wonder when we'll have dropdown for a branch in our bugs system :)22:12
domasmtaylor: did you see this one: http://mysqlha.blogspot.com/2008/06/i-have-created-project-at-launchpad-to.html ? :)22:12
mtaylordomas: yup22:12
mtaylordomas: as soon as we convince kiko to hook launchpad bugs up to mysql bugs 22:12
mtaylor:)22:12
kikoI'm convinced! I just need an extra engineer22:13
mtaylorhehe22:13
* domas sacrifices mtaylor 22:13
mtaylorwhat? busy? 22:13
kikopas moi22:13
domasbtw, when am I going to see 'you're out of quota' message? :)22:13
mtaylordomas: I actually tried to convince someone a while back that we should have canonical pay half of my salary and mysql the other half. 22:13
mtaylordomas: the idea didn't actually go anywhere22:13
domas=)22:13
flyingparchmentmtaylor: wouldn't it be better if they both paid all of it?22:14
mtaylorI used you as an example though!22:14
mtaylorflyingparchment: YES!22:14
* mtaylor votes for flyingparchment's idea22:14
mwhudsonloggerhead is back22:21
* beuno cheers mwhudson 22:22
mwhudsonbeuno: have i mentioned how much i like cherrypy recently?22:23
beunomwhudson, I can sympathize to some extent  :)22:24
oubiwannhey guys, we'd like to get the divmod trac bug tracker added to the list of registered bug trackers22:26
oubiwannhow do I go about doing that?22:26
popeywhat happens when you apply for a mailing list on launchpad? does a human review it in some way?22:45
jcastropopey: yep22:53
jcastropopey: if it's ubuntu related I decline it then mail you telling you to file an rt ticket instead.22:54
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popeyheh22:56
popeyit is ubuntu related22:56
popeydamnit22:56
popeyI'll use an existing list for it jcastro, don't worry22:57
jcastropopey: declined. :D22:57
popeyheh22:57
popey"Thanks"22:57
jcastropopey: if you send a mail to rt@ubuntu.com asking for one it's basically the same thing22:57
popeyit comes to you?22:57
popeywhat's the lead time these days?22:57
popey*wink*22:57
jcastrothere's an approval page22:57
jcastrooh, for the rt tickets22:57
jcastroheh22:57
jcastroyou know what that answer is. :D22:58
* popey whips jcastro 22:58
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