[00:25] johan: ah, we've found the problem [00:28] (i'm tempted to say "it's called subversion", but that would be a bit mean) [01:45] mwhudson_: ouch, what was it? [02:09] johan: pysvn.Client.update ignores the ignore_externals parameter [02:09] johan: hopefully will have a fix by tomorrow [02:24] perhaps you accidentally had ignore_ignore_externals set? [02:27] It's Subversion, so it'll do things the wrong way. There's probably a dont_ignore_ignore_externals which defaults to False. [02:28] jamesh: no, it's pretty clearly a pysvn bug [02:28] oh sorry, you were already in sarcastic mode === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson === persia_ is now known as persia === picturesque is now known as domas === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson === mrevell_ is now known as mrevell [09:12] morning all [09:12] morning mrvell [09:16] hi, is there a way to get a list of all people/teams auto-subscribed to all bugs in ubuntu? [09:16] morning mrevell! [09:22] thekorn: the portlet on the left of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+subscribe is probably what you're after [09:26] jamesh, yes, thanks, one more question: why do users with usernames ending with '-deactivatedaccount' still appear on this list? [09:27] thekorn: probably because the code for the portlet isn't filtering them out like it should [09:27] you could file a bug report [09:27] jamesh, ok, will do, thanks [09:27] thanks [09:27] Why are they renamed -deactivatedaccount, when they aren't usually? To free up the namespace? [09:29] wgrant: yes === gnomefre1k is now known as gnomefreak === mwhudson__ is now known as mwhudson === elmo_ is now known as elmo [12:02] Goooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! [12:15] Hello. Is it possible to update translations.lauchpad.net, so that the Ubuntu-link in the tag-cloud does not point at Gutsy? === sigurdga_ is now known as sigurdga [12:19] the translation focus for Ubuntu seems to still be set to Gutsy [12:19] jtv/danilo: ^^^ is this something you can fix? [12:21] jamesh: yes, but let us discuss it first. [12:21] It's normal practice for us to keep the translation focus pointing at an older release; we copy translations to the newer release from time to time. [12:21] right. I guess it is something for the Ubuntu guys to decide [12:21] fair enough [12:22] In general, translation focus is the oldest Ubuntu release that is still "actively supported," as seen from the translations point of view. [12:22] I was a bit worried when a (new) translator started to work on Gutsy [12:22] Ok [12:22] of course, people might not be able to get 100% coverage without doing some translation on the newer releases after the copying process [12:23] jamesh: that is true, but we're working on a more effective solution for that. [12:23] cool [12:24] Thanks for the explanation :) === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde === emgent_ is now known as emgent === EdwinGrub is now known as EdwinGrubbs === oojah_ is now known as oojah [15:54] I am having repeated troubles with merging of an account, it's related to a translation that is sitting with the account I want to merge from, from what I got told so far. [15:54] Is it possible to somehow request a manual merge for it? If so, where and how? [15:59] Rhonda, file a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [16:04] salgado: Thanks, added. === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === kiko is now known as kiko-fud [17:23] * andrea-bs gives thanks mrevell for the interview :) [17:23] has lanuchpad changed pushing? before it was: ssh+bzr, but now I get an error? [17:24] I did put up my ssh key id [17:24] public key that is [17:24] AnMaster: which error? [17:24] andrea-bs: Hey, my pleasure :) [17:24] andrea-bs, connection refused [17:25] AnMaster: the full message? [17:26] a sec [17:27] surely [17:27] * AnMaster closed terminal by mistake [17:27] Using saved location: bzr+ssh://anmaster@bazaar.launchpad.net/~anmaster/envbot/nick-tracking/ [17:27] Connection refused. [17:27] that's all [17:29] andrea-bs, and when I look on launchpad. on a new branch I just created I see " bzr push lp:~anmaster/envbot/starttls" [17:29] why no longer use bzr+ssh? [17:29] lp: is a shorter way, but it's the same [17:30] andrea-bs, except lp gives another error: [17:30] "run "bzr launchpad-login YOUR_ID" and try again." [17:30] AnMaster: is your ssh key in your ~/.ssh directory? [17:30] andrea-bs, of course it is. I use ssh key extensively [17:30] so ssh-agent is running too [17:31] anyway it suddenly works now [17:31] run "bzr launchpad-login YOUR_ID" and try again. ← you have to run this command to push to launchpad using lp:... [17:31] andrea-bs, yes and why I wonder? [17:31] to me that makes no sense [17:32] because "lp:..." is a simple alias to "bzr+ssh://nick@bazaar.launchpad.net/" [17:33] ok... why should launchpad have it's own protocol alias I wonder [17:33] you need to insert your nick both with bzr+ssh: and lp: [17:34] I think it's because there are too many users and launchpad should check every ssh key [17:34] this procedure can be very slow === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === kiko-fud is now known as kiko === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [19:42] hey folks, if I'm getting the following error for a project hosted on LP, does that mean it's corrupted server side: bzr: ERROR: Revision {email-20080417161838-a2tfnk26kx1q7vjf} not present in "revisions.kndx". [19:51] might it be possible that the repository might be corrupted server side? if so, must it be fixed server side? [20:12] cr3, do you have a branch of that repo? if so, just push --overwrite might fix it. [20:14] kiko: that returns the same image as when I try to commit: bzr: ERROR: Unknown bzrdir format: '' [20:15] the same error. hmmm, what did abentley say? [20:15] what does bzr info on the remote repo say, in a paste? [20:15] kiko: aha, I changed my branch.conf from using sftp: to lp: and that worked! [20:15] that means bzr+ssh [20:16] but cool [20:16] kiko: dude, I could kiss you right now! I thought this would ruin my afternoon but you've given me hope of getting some work done! [20:16] heh [20:16] err no need for kissing, I feel appreciated already [20:17] cr3, how about in return you tell me how to get sendmail to send mail through port 25? [20:24] kiko: there might be a potential for me to know this, one moment :) [20:24] cr3, it's okay, it was mostly a joke [20:25] something's busted in a server's sendmail and I can't fix it [20:25] kiko: mail servers were once my expertise, so I might prove to be useful [20:27] kiko: EtienneG is also very good with mail servers, so you might be able to get some assistance [20:32] kiko: cr3 apparently had this bug: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bzr/+bug/205156 [20:32] Launchpad bug 205156 in bzr "KnitRepository.insert_data_stream() copies data in improper order" [Critical,Triaged] [20:32] abentley, I hate that [20:33] kiko: You can avoid it by ensuring both branches are packs. (or knits, I suppose) [20:58] Good day, If someone translated of an app that is not set up for translation in LP, what s/he should do ? [21:00] kiko, abentley, maybe a warning in code.lp.net for branches that are still in older formats would help push people to upgrade? [21:00] beuno: Like some kind of nag email? [21:01] abentley, it could be something *in* the branch itself in the page, and, well, nag mail would be better :) [21:02] beuno: I can discuss that with the code team. [21:03] abentley, cool. Would really start to cut down on recurring knit incidents [21:04] Syntux, talk to the app maintainers, or translate in Ubuntu. === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [22:00] hi! how to file branch-specific bug? [22:00] domas: you just file it! [22:01] domas: the project has to use launchpad as its bug tracker, I believe, for that to work [22:01] mtaylor: but people would be annoyed if I'd track 'private' branch specific bugs [22:01] well, I'm not sure it goes both ways, as in "this bug is for the branch", as opposed to "this branch fixes this bug" [22:02] it's probably a project bug, and you can specify it's in trunk, or even a specific revision [22:02] so generally, if I want something standalone, I have to create new project for that? [22:02] domas, yes, that's the drill [22:03] damn :) [22:03] hm. this might get a little confusing then [22:03] in fact, branches are uploaded to projects [22:03] or +junk [22:03] which is not very encouraging :) [22:03] yes - be we're about to have a flurry of "forks" of MySQL uploaded [22:03] some of which will have their own bugs. [22:04] interesting problem, domas [22:04] mtaylor, that's an interesting use case [22:04] * beuno pokes kiko [22:04] beuno: I'm maintaining one mysql fork [22:04] :) [22:04] I know of three active forks that have been uploaded already [22:04] I guess it would be easier if we were using launchpad for bugs... [22:05] domas: convince people we need to migrate bug trackers! [22:05] :) [22:05] funny haha [22:05] mtaylor, take ~mysql, it's free now. [22:05] mtaylor: yeah, in theory a fork should have a separate project [22:05] after i push to bzr, when i try to view the revision on the website, it's really, really slow. is that normal? [22:06] flyingparchment: I'm getting 404s now [22:06] it is even more than normal%) [22:06] flyingparchment, yes, Loggerhead is slowish for now, but there should be an upgrade to it soon :) [22:06] beuno: loggerhead throws 404s [22:07] (thought you may be interested ;-) [22:07] i got two 'please try again' messages ;-) [22:07] kiko: thanks [22:08] domas, what URL? [22:08] oh, now it's 404 [22:08] beuno: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~wikimedia/mysql/mysql-5.0/revision/2641 [22:08] beuno: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~wikimedia/mysql/mysql-5.0/revision/2641 [22:08] it must be down again [22:08] flyingparchment: ;-D [22:08] who are you?!!? [22:08] mwhudson, poke ^ [22:08] kiko: got it. thanks [22:09] not sure he's up yet [22:09] kiko, is there anyone else who can revive loggerhead? [22:09] beuno: looking at it [22:09] mwhudson, :) [22:10] mtaylor, rock on! [22:12] mtaylor: I wonder when we'll have dropdown for a branch in our bugs system :) [22:12] mtaylor: did you see this one: http://mysqlha.blogspot.com/2008/06/i-have-created-project-at-launchpad-to.html ? :) [22:12] domas: yup [22:12] domas: as soon as we convince kiko to hook launchpad bugs up to mysql bugs [22:12] :) [22:13] I'm convinced! I just need an extra engineer [22:13] hehe [22:13] * domas sacrifices mtaylor [22:13] what? busy? [22:13] pas moi [22:13] btw, when am I going to see 'you're out of quota' message? :) [22:13] domas: I actually tried to convince someone a while back that we should have canonical pay half of my salary and mysql the other half. [22:13] domas: the idea didn't actually go anywhere [22:13] =) [22:14] mtaylor: wouldn't it be better if they both paid all of it? [22:14] I used you as an example though! [22:14] flyingparchment: YES! [22:14] * mtaylor votes for flyingparchment's idea [22:21] loggerhead is back [22:22] * beuno cheers mwhudson [22:23] beuno: have i mentioned how much i like cherrypy recently? [22:24] mwhudson, I can sympathize to some extent :) [22:26] hey guys, we'd like to get the divmod trac bug tracker added to the list of registered bug trackers [22:26] how do I go about doing that? [22:45] what happens when you apply for a mailing list on launchpad? does a human review it in some way? [22:53] popey: yep [22:54] popey: if it's ubuntu related I decline it then mail you telling you to file an rt ticket instead. === nikolaidis is now known as nik_AFK [22:56] heh [22:56] it is ubuntu related [22:56] damnit [22:57] I'll use an existing list for it jcastro, don't worry [22:57] popey: declined. :D [22:57] heh [22:57] "Thanks" [22:57] popey: if you send a mail to rt@ubuntu.com asking for one it's basically the same thing [22:57] it comes to you? [22:57] what's the lead time these days? [22:57] *wink* [22:57] there's an approval page [22:57] oh, for the rt tickets [22:57] heh [22:58] you know what that answer is. :D [22:58] * popey whips jcastro === Rinchen is now known as Rinchen-intervie === Rinchen-intervie is now known as Rinchen-phone