[01:41] <ufuk_k> hello. We have a problem in our local channel #ubuntu-tr. I am one of the persons who is responsible from ubuntu-tr.org. You can check our team from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[01:41] <ufuk_k> We do not have channel privileges as Approved Turkish team
[01:42] <ufuk_k> Our Project maintainer does now have channel access now. We need to get the channel priviliges
[01:43] <ufuk_k> I mean he does not have channel access. You can check us https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TurkishTeam
[02:18] <ufuk_k> Anyone here to help us?
[02:18] <elkbuntu> im not sure what you're asking
[02:19] <ufuk_k> We are the Approved Turkish team elkbuntu
[02:19] <ufuk_k> and now, We do now "own" our channel
[02:19] <elkbuntu> right. you're on the list since an hour ago, so obviously someone is active who has the power to do this.
[02:19] <ufuk_k> we do not own right now, I mean
[02:19] <elkbuntu> what do you mean by 'own' it?
[02:19] <elkbuntu> raptoid is listed as founder
[02:19] <ufuk_k> We need to take channel priviliges
[02:20] <elkbuntu> is raptoid no longer active?
[02:20] <ufuk_k> Yes, he is not active
[02:20] <elkbuntu> do you have any contact information for him?
[02:21] <ufuk_k> And people who get acces from him got our channell
[02:21] <ufuk_k> No, not right now
[02:21] <elkbuntu> what do you mean by that. i see alot of people in the access list
[02:21] <elkbuntu> including you
[02:21] <ufuk_k> But, our project maintainer and people on locoteamlist does not have founder access
[02:22] <ufuk_k> we still have lower access
[02:22] <ufuk_k> And still they can take our access, too
[02:23] <elkbuntu> someone will always need to have the higher access
[02:23] <ufuk_k> But this "somoneone" is not in Turkish team
[02:23] <ufuk_k> I mean the approved team
[02:23] <ufuk_k> I can give the information and people in approved team
[02:23] <elkbuntu> are you talking about serdarakkan, fuat_benli, or heartsmagic?
[02:24] <elkbuntu> oh, or xaroon
[02:24] <ufuk_k> yes, We need to take prviliges from raptoid and xaroon
[02:24] <ufuk_k> heartsmagic and serdarakkan is in Turkish team
[02:24] <ufuk_k> Heartsmagic is one of the project leaders
[02:25] <elkbuntu> ufuk_k, who is the current loco leader?
[02:25] <ufuk_k> Eren Kovanci
[02:25] <ufuk_k> here, ekovanvi
[02:25] <ufuk_k> sorry * ekovanci
[02:25] <ekovanci> :)
[02:26] <elkbuntu> right, so where does heartsmagic fit in?
[02:27] <ufuk_k> He is also in Turkish team and in the project leader list on http://www.ubuntu-tr.org/index.php?topic=53.0
[02:27] <ufuk_k> People has taken the channel founder rights (the pasword) from raptoid
[02:27] <elkbuntu> ah, so they're equal leaders?
[02:27] <ufuk_k> yes
[02:28] <ufuk_k> now these people are problem for us
[02:28] <ufuk_k> Because raptoid is no longer active, we can not get the priviliges
[02:29] <ufuk_k> So currently, the official Turkish team does not have founder priviliges on #ubuntu-tr channel
[02:29] <elkbuntu> ok, eren needs to update the loco teams list to have serkan listed as co-contact. then heartsmagic can come and request all this :)
[02:30] <ufuk_k> Since they got access from raptoid, we can not do anything for our irc channel
[02:30] <elkbuntu> eren and serkan should probably take consideration of what channel they want listed on that list
[02:30] <ufuk_k> You can check ubuntu@ubuntu-tr.org. Eren Kovanci is here
[02:31] <ufuk_k> But I am speaking on his behalf, also you can ask to him.
[02:32] <elkbuntu> i do need to speak to him. anyone can say they speak on his behalf
[02:33] <elkbuntu> however since i dont see eren on the irc access list, he'll have to acknowledge serkan as co-contact so serkan can deal with the irc stuff
[02:33] <ufuk_k> elkbuntu: he ask me to translate, because he doesn't speak well
[02:33] <elkbuntu> ok, how well does serkan speak?
[02:34] <ufuk_k> He speaks good,  but right now, Eren Kovanci (ekovanci) has all the rights, so he has the right as project leader
[02:35] <elkbuntu> i know. however he doesnt actually have irc rights. if he can add serkan to the turkey entry on wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamsList
[02:35] <ekovanci> I am the project leader in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList
[02:36] <ekovanci> eren@ubuntu-tr.org / ubuntu@ubuntu-tr.org
[02:36] <elkbuntu> hello ekovanci. are you understanding what i've said so far? :)
[02:36] <ufuk_k> I translate
[02:36] <ufuk_k> dont worry
[02:36] <ekovanci> Yes
[02:37] <elkbuntu> is he willing to update the turkey entry on LoCoTeamList?
[02:38] <ufuk_k> He asks why he needs to update.
[02:38] <elkbuntu> once he does that, serkan will be able to arrange the changes. he is the only loco contact on the irc access list
[02:38] <elkbuntu>  /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-tr list
[02:39] <elkbuntu> unless one of those names is ekovanci in disguise
[02:39] <ufuk_k> He and Serkan cooperates, Eren Kovanci is enough, Serkan only helps to translate, He does not want to get listed in locoteamlist
[02:40] <ufuk_k> so right now, think me as Serkan, he is also my friend though :)
[02:40] <ufuk_k> We are all friends, we dont want to be listed
[02:40] <ufuk_k> We just want to take our channel's priviliges
[02:41] <ufuk_k> And in the list, There is Eren Kovanci
[02:41] <ufuk_k> and he is here, too
[02:41] <ufuk_k> we can provide any information you want
[02:41] <ufuk_k> mail domain, adress, anything
[02:42] <elkbuntu> ufuk_k, see the problem is that i dont know how much eren is understanding of all this.
[02:42] <ufuk_k> The important thing is here to take the channell priviliges
[02:42] <ufuk_k> he is saying all the things I write
[02:42] <ufuk_k> I translate him, he understands all of it
[02:43] <ufuk_k> He tells me, we just want channel founder rights. You can give it to Eren Kovanci, OR serkan
[02:43] <ufuk_k> it is not important
[02:43] <ufuk_k> They are all in Turkish team
[02:44] <elkbuntu> it is important for protecting the team. see the people you want out of the access list could have come and done this against you. as far as we see, they're trusted to the irc channel. they could pretend to be translating eren. we cannot know how much of this is real.
[02:45] <ekovanci> Yes, we want channel priviliges as Approved Turkish Team
[02:45] <ekovanci> and ufuk_k is on our team
[02:46] <ekovanci>  You can mail to mailto:ubuntu@ubuntu-tr.org
[02:46] <elkbuntu> ok. i'll see what i can do. this wont be instant since i still need to get a freenode staff to do any changes
[02:47] <ufuk_k> we know some of the freenode staff
[02:47] <ufuk_k> but they told us to contact with you, here
[02:47] <ufuk_k> so we came here..
[02:48] <elkbuntu> which freenode staff?
[02:49] <ekovanci> Ufuk_k is authorized to speak on behalf of Ubuntu TR, you can sen mail to mailto:ubuntu@ubuntu-tr.org to confirmation.
[02:50] <ufuk_k> We talked to a friend of serkan, AndrewB
[02:50] <ufuk_k> I mean he answered and helped us in #freenode
[02:54] <ufuk_k> We are asking for channel founder priviliges, so we edit the channel access list and give priviliges to people choosen by Turkish Team.
[02:54] <elkbuntu> he's not a staffer unfortunately
[02:55] <ufuk_k> Do we need freenode staffer right now? I mean someone from ubuntu staff can do this as far as I know.
[02:57] <elkbuntu> ok, it goes like this... ubuntu irc contacts have to contact freenode staff to get it done. we dont have any superpowers
[02:58] <ufuk_k> Ah, ok. I see.
[02:59] <ekovanci> :)
[03:15] <ufuk_k> so, any news elkbuntu?
[03:16] <elkbuntu> no, staffers are not easy to find at this time unfortunately
[03:16] <ufuk_k> do you want us to search?
[03:16] <ufuk_k> then ask him contact to you?
[03:17] <elkbuntu> you can search yes. i am doing several things at once so i havent done a big search for a staffer yet
[03:17] <ufuk_k> it is 5:15 am here, we just want to to it
[03:17] <ufuk_k> we are waiting here
[04:13] <elkbuntu> whoa, who took *everyone* off the list, ekovanci?
[04:14] <ufuk_k> elkbuntu: Udontknow came to channel, I think they re-register it
[04:15] <elkbuntu> ah. right. dont forget to have them help you add heartsmagic, freenode/staff/* back, that helps your people if you or other ops are not around and it gets hit by bad people.
[04:15] <elkbuntu> it means freenode staff will help right away, without asking permission from an op who isnt there to be asked anyway
[04:16] <ufuk_k> ok, really thank you
[04:18] <elkbuntu> i'd suggest making heartsmagic equal with ekovanci, if he's the main irc person
[04:25] <ufuk_k> elkbuntu, thank you a lot for helping and waiting with us.
[04:26] <elkbuntu> no problem
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