[01:11] <gloria> my menu has no icons! :(
[01:12] <gloria> anyone else have a similar issue?
[02:06] <symptom> can i run gparted on xubuntu?
[02:08] <jmhealey> symptom: yes
[03:36] <jimisrvrox> hey kernel
[03:36] <jimisrvrox> I downloaded the desktop version and now it hangs at 15% detecting file system
[05:30] <spikemcc> bonjour , mon ordinateur refuse d'installer windows ou prend 1-5 minutes de plus pour démarer sur windows apres l'essai d'ubuntu !!! hi , my pc refuse to install windows or take 1-5 minutes to boot after I tried ubuntu !!!
[05:51] <spikemcc> bonjour , mon ordinateur refuse d'installer windows ou prend 1-5 minutes de plus pour démarer sur windows apres l'essai d'ubuntu !!! hi , my pc refuse to install windows or take 1-5 minutes to boot after I tried ubuntu !!!
[08:37] <__alexconrad__> hi, I need help with dpkg-preconfigure. I'd like to automate the installation of sun-java6-jre_6-06-0ubuntu1_all.deb, but I need to accept terms and conditions, which is not suitable for automation. How can I avoid this, I think dpkg-preconfigure is the way to go, but I'm not sure how to use it.
[09:07] <ablomen> AlexCONRAD, i think you might have to make your own package (or edit the existing one), i dont see any options in apt etc to automaticly let it choose yes, the dpkg-preconfigure just lets you answer the questions before installation, you will still have to press yes afaik
[09:07] <ablomen> cant find anything on google either
[09:08] <AlexCONRAD> ablomen: i'm using preseeding to automaticly answer question, but as java in not in the CD, i didn't put the .deb under the /pool structure of the CD
[09:14] <ablomen> hmm, and you cant create your own iso to do that? or is it to late for that?
[09:28] <AlexCONRAD> ablomen: well, I've tried remastering a xubuntu CD
[09:28] <AlexCONRAD> but it's so heavy doing that, you need to create gpg keys, regenerate all kinds of meta data files and such
[09:29] <AlexCONRAD> plus, i failed doing so, the installation was much longer than the original ... I must have screwed something
[09:39] <cider> , now my terminal is all screwed up, the appearance is hazy, and no input is visible
[09:40] <cider>  upgraded my xubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04
[09:51] <AlexCONRAD> ablomen: for your information, I think I have found the answer to my question: debconf-set-selections
[09:51] <AlexCONRAD> that should help putting the packages questions into the DB conf
[09:53] <cider> sorry, I'll re-word, I upgraded my xubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04, now my terminal is all screwed up, the window appears out of sync, and when you type, no input is visible
[09:53] <AlexCONRAD> that way, I can pre-answer the question, and when i'll run the java install, it will see the questions have already been answered
[09:53] <AlexCONRAD> sorry cider, I'm not xubuntu expert user... I wish i could help
[09:53] <AlexCONRAD> i'm new to desktop environement
[09:59] <ablomen> AlexCONRAD, ah nice, is it working?
[10:00] <AlexCONRAD> ablomen: well ... this actually only sets the answers in the database ... I don't know yet how to retrieve the questions from the deb file to answer them
[10:01] <AlexCONRAD> ablomen: that was posted on a list: echo "sun-java5-jdk shared/accepted-sun-dlj-v1-1 boolean true" | debconf-set-selections
[10:02] <AlexCONRAD> but Im' not sure I do have the same "question" from my debs
[10:02] <ablomen> hmm
[10:02] <AlexCONRAD> maybe I have to query the .deb file with somehow to show me that info
[10:03] <ablomen> yeah you could try extracting it and then grepping all the files
[10:04] <AlexCONRAD> right, i'm just don't know how to do that yet
[10:05] <ablomen> ehm i think you can just extract a .deb file with the archive manager
[10:05] <ablomen> lemme check
[10:06] <ablomen> yeah you can just right click on a file and choose archive manager
[10:06] <ablomen> in there are tar.gz files that you can just extract to say your /tmp directory
[10:07] <ablomen> and then run grep -r "agree" * in the folder where you extracted the contents
[10:07] <ablomen> maybe that will give you what you want to know
[10:09] <AlexCONRAD> hum... I can try that, but I bet there is some command where you can just "command --get-selections mydeb.deb"
[10:09] <AlexCONRAD> and it would just print out the data
[10:10] <AlexCONRAD> because I need to do that for multiple file, so unpacking the deb is not a solution
[10:10] <ablomen> heh yeah if there is a command for that that would be easyer :P
[10:11] <AlexCONRAD> when googling "debconf-set-selections", I expect to see some people that show how to extract the selections from a deb file, darn ...
[10:12] <AlexCONRAD> "debconf-set-selections can be used to pre-seed the debconf database with answers, or to change answers in the database. Each question will be marked as seen to prevent debconf from asking the question interactively."
[10:19] <cider> I upgraded my xubuntu from 7.10 to 8.04, now my terminal is all screwed up, the window appears out of sync, and when you type, no input is visible. Can anyone help?
[10:20] <ablomen> cider, can you defign screwed up and out of sync? (maybe a screenshot or two?)
[10:25] <cider> ok hang on
[10:25] <cider> where would you suggest a screenshot be placed?
[10:26] <ablomen> i think you can upload it to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:26] <ablomen> oh no, wait a sec
[10:28] <ablomen> grr
[10:28] <ablomen> just use something like http://imageshack.us/
[10:28] <ablomen> or http://tinypic.com/
[10:28] <ablomen> should both work fine
[10:30] <AlexCONRAD> ablomen: http://blog.hjksolutions.com/articles/category/solutions
[10:30] <AlexCONRAD> this says I need to install the package first by hand, and query the answers from the database
[10:31] <ablomen> oh nice
[10:32]  * ablomen is gonna bookmark that just in case
[10:32] <cider> http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh108/malsgigphotos/terminal.jpg
[10:33] <AlexCONRAD> cider: the pixel artifacts... I think this might come from a font option
[10:33] <AlexCONRAD> the color Aberration
[10:34] <cider> was ok, til upgrade
[10:35] <AlexCONRAD> try going in Applications > Setting Manager > User interface and at the bottom of the windows, you'll have something about fonts and "use sub-pixel hinting"
[10:35] <ablomen> woah never seen anything like that
[10:35] <AlexCONRAD> try playing with that
[10:35] <ablomen> AlexCONRAD, the whole window is screwed up too though
[10:36] <cider> "use sub-pixel hinting" did nothing
[10:36] <AlexCONRAD> right
[10:36] <ablomen> cider, after trying AlexCONRAD's thing, you might wanna try creating a new user, loging in to that user and open the terminal etc
[10:36] <ablomen> if its a problem in a user specific config file somewhere , that should fix that
[10:37] <cider> I'll enable that and log out , see if thast works
[10:37] <cider> brb
[10:37] <AlexCONRAD> cider: it turns out I felt on this article a few days ago: http://www.zarb.org/~gc/html/subpixel-hinting.html
[10:37] <AlexCONRAD> oops
[10:37] <AlexCONRAD> I'll have to send this again
[10:37] <AlexCONRAD> :)
[10:38] <ablomen> hehe :) really weird though how that whole window is.. broken
[10:38] <AlexCONRAD> cider: it turns out I felt on this article a few days ago: http://www.zarb.org/~gc/html/subpixel-hinting.html
[10:38] <AlexCONRAD> your windows looks even more broken that the article's issue, but just in case ... you can keep that somewhere in your mind
[10:39] <AlexCONRAD> cider: but ... is this happening *only* on the terminal ?
[10:39] <AlexCONRAD> the rest looks okay
[10:40] <cider> yes
[10:40] <cider> only on terminal
[10:40] <AlexCONRAD> if you have been playing with the terminal's look and feel, you might want to reset things... maybe settings have changed and might screw your window ... i don't knwo. ..
[10:41] <AlexCONRAD> maybe like deleting (backup) the config file where the terminal's preferences are stored
[10:41] <cider> only thing i did was upgrade
[10:42] <AlexCONRAD> cider: maybe the API of the conf file has changed between the two version
[10:42] <cider> mmm
[10:42] <AlexCONRAD> although, I don't belive that's the issue...
[10:42] <AlexCONRAD> but you could give it a try
[10:42] <AlexCONRAD> i don't know where the terminal's conf is stored though
[10:44] <AlexCONRAD> cider: have you tried reinstalling the terminal app ?
[10:44] <cider> believe I did, will try again
[10:44] <AlexCONRAD> like, totally remove it (purge) and reinstall
[11:08] <cider> mmm, fixed, uninstalled the xfce terminal emulator, and installed a different one from add/remove and all seems to be well
[11:16] <AlexCONRAD> cider: good to hear
[11:16] <AlexCONRAD> cider: good to read
[11:17] <cider> cheers
[11:36] <MrNaz> is there a replacement for the gnome network manager that doesn't totally suck?
[11:38] <Riotta> just uninstall it
[11:38] <Riotta> it really suck :d
[11:39] <Riotta> it's easier to setup your network in terminal
[11:39] <MrNaz> yes, but i dont want to be editing /etc/interfaces with vim every time i move my laptop either
[11:39] <MrNaz> it's what?
[11:39] <MrNaz> easier to set it up in terminal?
[11:39] <MrNaz> you're obviously not a traveller :P
[11:40] <Riotta> yeah I'm haven't got laptop really
[11:40] <Riotta> I*
[12:37] <kripz> how can i text if my microphone is working?
[12:37] <kripz> test
[12:38] <gabkdlly> rec will do what you ask
[12:39] <gabkdlly> although you can use any program that takes sound in from the mic and can store it and give it back to you
[12:39] <kripz> i dont know of any programs :)
[12:40] <gabkdlly> oops, I guess you need to install sox to use rec
[12:41] <gabkdlly> rec is a command-line tool
[13:02] <slimjimflim> anybody anybody know where to find a repo for qt4.4 dev-tools
[14:10] <supta> bump
[14:45] <olafski> hey guys.. I'm trying to get the nvidia-glx-legacy driver to work with my tnt2; it works now but it won't go over 800x600, while I need 1440x900. Could anyone give me some pointers? I've tried quite many things that I found on the ubuntu forums, but couldn't get it over 1280x1024
[14:45] <AlexCONRAD> hi, what's the package that holds the kernel sources ?
[14:50] <TheSheep> olafski: try increasing the video memory in bios
[14:50] <olafski> hmm.. a tnt2 has shared memory?
[14:51] <TheSheep> olafski: you can also examine the logs in /var/log/Xorg.0.lo to see why it is rejecting the resolutions
[14:51] <olafski> or does that not matter.. I'll check it out :) using the modeline gtf gave me doesn't work anyhow
[14:51] <TheSheep> olafski: no idea, but it's a common pitfall
[14:51] <olafski> ah that sounds like it's worth a shot
[14:51] <olafski> I'm getting quite tired of working with no legacy drivers :<
[14:54] <olafski> I don't really see any errors in there, except stuff like this:
[14:54] <olafski> (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1600x1200" (width too large for virtual size)
[14:55] <olafski> I'll go check out the bios
[14:58] <TheSheep> olafski: you're sure it's using the nvidia driver, not the vesa one?
[14:59] <olafski> let's say I'm not too linux-savvy.. I enabled the restricted driver in the restricted driver manager and it says it's enabled :$
[15:00] <olafski> works a lot faster than before I enabled it, but only on the low resolution
[15:01] <olafski> after adding the modeline I got from gtf, I can only do 640x480 (no other resolutions in the list), before it showed everything up to 800x600
[15:03] <TheSheep> the logs should say which driver X are loading
[15:03] <TheSheep> somewhere a little before the line you pasted
[15:03] <olafski> I'll check
[15:04] <olafski> hard to read with this low resolution :(
[15:07] <olafski> I can't find it :{
[15:15] <olafski> hm guess I'll give up for now.. time to go home :p
[15:56] <AlexCONRAD> hi, I'm trying to compile a module, but make is complaining about not finding this folder: /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/build/ Im I missing a package to properly compile my source?
[16:12] <TheSheep> !kernel | AlexCONRAD
[16:12] <The_Kernel> hello all
[16:12] <TheSheep> AlexCONRAD: this may be helpful, I hope
[16:13] <AlexCONRAD> TheSheep: i'll read about this, thanks
[19:36] <xTheSaintx> Hello
[19:37] <xTheSaintx> I have xubuntu on my laptop, and i wana get on the internet
[19:37] <xTheSaintx> i have a wireless card in, how do i select the connection?
[19:38] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: is your wireless cad working?
[19:38] <xTheSaintx> Yes, it has a light on
[19:38] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: can you pastbin the output of "iwconfig" ?
[19:38] <Odd-rationale> !paste
[19:39] <xTheSaintx> iwconfig?
[19:39] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: yes. type "iwconfig" (without quotes) in a terminal
[19:39] <xTheSaintx> yeh
[19:39] <xTheSaintx> i get like
[19:39] <xTheSaintx> lo   no wireless extensions
[19:39] <Odd-rationale> and copy and paste the output in a pastebin
[19:40] <xTheSaintx> eth0   no wireless extensions
[19:40] <xTheSaintx> im on my other comp
[19:40] <Odd-rationale> oh, ok.
[19:40] <xTheSaintx> im not on my laptop, it has not connection
[19:40] <xTheSaintx> thats what im trying to get >.<
[19:40] <gaurdro> you can still put it into a pastebin though.
[19:40] <xTheSaintx> its got wlan0  IEEE 802.11b+/g+ ESSID"
[19:40] <xTheSaintx> etc..
[19:41] <xTheSaintx> whats a pastebin kinda new to linux
[19:41] <Odd-rationale> can you wire your laptop?
[19:41] <xTheSaintx> yes
[19:41] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: it might be easiest to be on both computers...
[19:42] <xTheSaintx> im on my pc now
[19:42] <xTheSaintx> and my laptop next to me
[19:42] <gaurdro> xTheSaintx  it's a place where you can put large blocks of text so they don't clutter the channel, or get you booted for flooding.
[19:42] <gaurdro> http://pastebin.com/
[19:42] <xTheSaintx> (PC=Windows) - (Laptop=XUbuntu)
[19:42] <xTheSaintx> so i go wire my laptop?
[19:43] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: sure. if you can have both connected that would be easiest
[19:43] <xTheSaintx> errm how about i write it all?
[19:43] <xTheSaintx> and send u pastebin
[19:43] <Odd-rationale> ok. that's fine too.
[19:49] <xTheSaintx> http://pastebin.com/m3ae33a75
[19:49] <xTheSaintx> errm i kinda wright most of it
[19:49] <xTheSaintx> its still got some left
[19:49] <xTheSaintx> but i dont think thats important
[19:50] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: do you have the nm-applet in the system tray?
[19:50] <xTheSaintx> But how do i know if im on my connect or not?
[19:50] <xTheSaintx> nm-applet? - wait ill see if i can get in there
[19:51] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: nm-applet runs in the system tray.
[19:51] <xTheSaintx> i got this thing what sais Net][
[19:51] <xTheSaintx> but thats it
[19:51] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: make sure you have a system tray in the panel
[19:51] <xTheSaintx> it looks like Net|][|
[19:52] <xTheSaintx> ok tell me what to do
[19:52] <xTheSaintx> to see
[19:52] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: then do alt+f2 and type in nm-applet
[19:53] <xTheSaintx> no such file or directory
[19:53] <Odd-rationale> try in terminal instead.
[19:53] <xTheSaintx> not installed
[19:54] <xTheSaintx> can get by typeing : sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[19:54] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: what version of xubuntu do you have?
[19:54] <xTheSaintx> 4.4.1
[19:55] <Odd-rationale> no, i mean xubuntu. not xfce. try "lsb_release -a"
[19:55] <xTheSaintx> shall i wire my computer and type :  sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[19:55] <xTheSaintx> 7.10
[19:56] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: yes, install network-manager-gnome
[19:56] <Odd-rationale> or consider upgrading to 8.04 ;)
[19:56] <Odd-rationale> 8.04 LTS, to be exact
[19:57] <gaurdro> xTheSaintx  do you have xubuntu-desktop installed?
[19:57] <Odd-rationale> but 7.10 comes with nm-applet iirc
[19:58] <gaurdro> it should but it can be inadvertently removed during a depclean.
[19:58] <gaurdro> umm,  i mean autoremove.
[19:58] <Odd-rationale> gaurdro: true, i see.
[19:59] <Odd-rationale> well, when he is wired up, we'll have him reinstall xubuntu-desktop... or upgrade... ;)
[20:00] <gaurdro> I'd say do both,  I've had issues with upgrading without a xxx-desktop installed.
[20:00] <xTheSaintx> said :
[20:00] <xTheSaintx> could not lock something
[20:00] <xTheSaintx> like /var
[20:00] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: you might have to "sudo apt-get update" first
[20:01] <gaurdro> and make sure synaptic isn't running.
[20:01] <Odd-rationale> or you might have another instance of apt running
[20:01] <Odd-rationale> !aptfix
[20:01] <Odd-rationale> or both... :)
[20:04] <xTheSaintx> ok
[20:04] <xTheSaintx> its updateing
[20:04] <xTheSaintx> 27%
[20:04] <xTheSaintx> connecting to gb.archive.ubuntu.com [connecting to security.ubuntu.com]
[20:04] <xTheSaintx> i mean 25%
[20:04] <Odd-rationale> ok good
[20:04] <xTheSaintx> its just stopped tho on 25%
[20:04] <Odd-rationale> just wait for that to finish first...
[20:04] <cody-somerville> For a second I thought this was #xubuntu-devel and was going to freak out at 65 people being in it :P
[20:05] <Odd-rationale> lol, you wish... ;)
[20:05] <xTheSaintx> but i dont think im connected
[20:05] <xTheSaintx> When i open firefox it just dosent do nowt
[20:05] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: i thought you are wired?
[20:05] <xTheSaintx> as if it isnt responding
[20:06] <xTheSaintx> i am wired >>.<<
[20:06] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: firefox can be a bit slow....
[20:06] <xTheSaintx> it just sais : looking up www.google.com
[20:06] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: the easest way to test connection is to "ping -c 3 yahoo.com"
[20:06] <xTheSaintx> and stops
[20:06] <Odd-rationale> in terminal that is...
[20:07] <xTheSaintx> unknown
[20:07] <xTheSaintx> oviosly it isnt working >.<
[20:07] <Odd-rationale> did "sudo apt-get update" fail?
[20:08] <xTheSaintx> ye i suppose
[20:08] <xTheSaintx> stopped on 25%
[20:08] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: stop it then (ctrl+c)
[20:08] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: then, with your wire connected, try "sudo dhclient eth0"
[20:09] <Odd-rationale> replace eth0 if your wired ethernet device. (usually it is eth0, though)
[20:09] <xTheSaintx> nice
[20:09] <xTheSaintx> works nw
[20:09] <xTheSaintx> now
[20:09] <xTheSaintx> ok
[20:09] <xTheSaintx> update done
[20:10] <Odd-rationale> ok. now do "sudo apt-get resinstall xubuntu-desktop"
[20:10] <Odd-rationale> reinstall
[20:10] <xTheSaintx> invalid
[20:11] <Odd-rationale> i misspelled reinstall,
[20:11] <xTheSaintx> i spelt it right
[20:11] <gaurdro> try just install
[20:12] <xTheSaintx> E: Invalid operation reinstall
[20:12] <Odd-rationale> hmm, i forgot my apt-get commands....
[20:12] <xTheSaintx> please instert disc
[20:12] <AlexCONRAD> hi, I have blacklisted under /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist a network module, but it keep loading up. What could be the reason ?
[20:12] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: stop it, then...
[20:12] <xTheSaintx> xubuntu 7.10 _gutsy gibbon_ - beta i386
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: go to applications --> system --> software sources...
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> then uncheck the checkbos fo the cd...
[20:14] <Odd-rationale> then close it, run sudo apt-get update again, and try installing again
[20:14] <xTheSaintx> what checkbox?
[20:15] <xTheSaintx> im in Ubuntu Software tab
[20:15] <xTheSaintx> theres 5 checkbox's
[20:15] <Odd-rationale> go to the first tab. near th bottom, there should be a checkbox for the cd...
[20:16] <xTheSaintx> whats it say?
[20:16] <xTheSaintx> my last one is called Source Code
[20:16] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: ok. nevermind. are you familiar with editing textfiles?
[20:16] <xTheSaintx> Odd, what if i gave u access to my laptop?
[20:17] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: you really would do that???
[20:17] <xTheSaintx> i can make u not have access after tho
[20:18] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: well, it is not that difficult...
[20:18] <Odd-rationale> we'll irc first...
[20:19] <Odd-rationale> close the software sources app. run "gksudo mousepad /etc/apt/sources.lst"
[20:19] <Odd-rationale> then comment out (with a #) the first or second line that lists the cd
[20:19] <Odd-rationale> save and close the file.
[20:20] <xTheSaintx> so in sources.lst
[20:21] <xTheSaintx> i type '#'
[20:21] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: umm is there anything in that file?
[20:21] <xTheSaintx> errm i know a good friend and he will do acess with me
[20:22] <xTheSaintx> he is in the ubuntu team
[20:22] <xTheSaintx> i will see if he can do it first
[20:22] <gaurdro> i think you need: /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:23] <Odd-rationale> gaurdro: as you can tell, i haven't used an ubuntu system in a while... trying to work off memeory...
[20:23] <Odd-rationale> or use tab completion ;)
[20:24] <gaurdro> Odd-rationale,  no worries.
[20:26] <Odd-rationale> well, my time is up. gtg!
[20:27] <Odd-rationale> xTheSaintx: you really should consider updating, especially since you are using 7.10 beta....
[20:27] <Odd-rationale> missed him... :(
[20:27] <Odd-rationale> anyways, bye!
[20:27]  * cody-somerville waves.
[21:19] <Shaba1> Hello all
[21:25] <cody-somerville> hi
[21:27] <N1ghtCrawler> Hi, i want to create a launcher for the terminal. How do i do? :>
[21:27] <ww_> hi. is there a way to make thunar sort files by file extension?
[21:32] <N1ghtCrawler> nvm fixed it :>
[21:36] <Shaba1> how?
[21:59] <anom01y> I am trying to install xubuntu on an older laptop but I keep running into problems
[21:59] <anom01y> I've tried 2 different cd's from two different downloads
[22:00] <anom01y> and when it is installing the base system I get a red error message
[22:02] <anom01y> every time I get a red error message
[22:03] <anom01y> "Warning: Failure trying to run: chroot /target dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.7-10-ubuntu3_i386.deb
[22:03] <anom01y> the debootstrap prorgam exited with an error
[22:03] <anom01y> the base system installation into /target failed.
[22:04] <anom01y> what do I have to do to install this to the HD ?
[22:04] <Myrtti> I got that too today
[22:04] <Myrtti> check that your installation disk is clean
[22:04] <anom01y> I got it twice from 2 cds
[22:04] <anom01y> yeah I did
[22:04] <anom01y> redownloaded it
[22:04] <anom01y> one from a torrent and the other straight from the site
[22:05] <anom01y> md5sum worked good,
[22:05] <Myrtti> did you check the ... :-D
[22:05] <anom01y> burned it at 8.0x dao
[22:05] <anom01y> both cd's give me the exact same error message
[22:05] <Myrtti> bummer
[22:07] <anom01y> yeah not sure why or what to do
[22:07] <anom01y> I guess you cant use it
[22:08] <anom01y> anyone else here ? I need help with the install cd
[22:08] <anom01y> Myrtti: do you think if I downloaded the live cd
[22:08] <anom01y> and install from there
[22:08] <anom01y> would be easier ??
[22:08] <siggjen> did you check the md5sum of the iso before you burned it?
[22:09] <anom01y> yes
[22:09] <anom01y> and I downloaded it twice
[22:09] <anom01y> I will check both downloads again
[22:10] <siggjen> you could try to burn at 1x speed
[22:10] <anom01y> ha I cant go that slow
[22:10] <anom01y> 8x is slowest
[22:10] <siggjen> lol (:
[22:12] <anom01y> WHAT if I got the live cd
[22:12] <anom01y> and istalled from there
[22:13] <Myrtti> worth a try, but can your computer handle the live session?
[22:13] <anom01y> yes
[22:13] <anom01y> maybe the cdrom is crappy or something
[22:14] <siggjen> isn't there a minimal Cd?
[22:15] <anom01y> I wish I could broadcast a video stream of the installation process lol
[22:15] <anom01y> it looks like it is going to install but I get that stupid error
[22:21] <Stroganoff> are we talking about the alternate cd?
[22:21] <Stroganoff> text based installer?
[22:22] <anom01y> yes
[22:22] <anom01y> Stroganoff: yes
[22:23] <anom01y> I am retrying it though
[22:23] <anom01y> instead of hitting "ok" on the error I hit "go back" and the installer keeps installing
[22:23] <anom01y> so I might be ok
[22:23] <anom01y> its at 53%
[22:23] <Stroganoff> also press ctrl+alt+f2 and check for more error messages
[22:23] <Stroganoff> use shift+pageup to scroll upwards
[22:24] <Stroganoff> ctrl+alt+f1 goes back to the installer
[22:31] <anom01y> ok
[22:31] <anom01y> install is complete
[22:31] <anom01y> which kernel should I use ?
[22:32] <anom01y> Stroganoff: linux-generic, linux-image-generic, or linux-image-2.6.24-16-generic
[22:33] <ojohn> :-/ howdy
[22:33] <Stroganoff> its all the same, anom01y
[22:34] <anom01y> stupid installation failed AGAIN
[22:37] <xTheSaintx> Hello guys, i got my wireless working and was wondering is there any good styles to install?
[22:38] <Stroganoff> anom01y more infos plox
[22:38] <anom01y> Stroganoff: ok well I will type every error I get
[22:38] <xTheSaintx> Does anyone know any good styles i can install?
[22:38] <anom01y> does it need the internet because I remember one error said unable to download
[22:39] <xTheSaintx> Does anyone know any good styles i can install?
[22:41] <anom01y> Stroganoff:
[22:41] <anom01y> Warning failure trying to run chroot /target dpkg
[22:41] <anom01y>  --force-depends --install var/cache/apt/archives
[22:41] <anom01y>  /libc6_2.7-10ubuntu3_i386.deb
[22:42] <anom01y> the debootstrap program exited with an error return value 1
[22:42] <anom01y> the base system installation into /target/ failed
[22:42] <anom01y> An installation step failed
[22:42] <anom01y> its like it works sometimes more than other times
[22:43] <ojohn> I have a bootloader problem I hope someone might be able to help with
[22:43] <xTheSaintx> Does anyone know any good styles i can install?
[22:43] <anom01y> xTheSaintx I am trying to install from the install version
[22:44] <ojohn> I used EasyBCD, in Vista, to modify the boot
[22:44] <anom01y> but I get random errors here and there, not sure if thats because the cdrom is crappy or not
[22:44] <ojohn> but the timeout was changed to 0 seconds for the initial screen which prompts to choose either Windows or Linux
[22:44] <anom01y> the computer only has 64mb ram
[22:44] <ojohn> since it defaults to Linux, that means I can't choose Vista at all - because of the 0 sec timeout
[22:45] <anom01y> Stroganoff: I think the laptop only has 64mb ram
[22:45] <anom01y> could that be the prob ?
[22:45] <ojohn> if choose vista in GRUB, it goes back to the screen with the 0 sec timeout, then back to GRUB
[22:45] <anom01y> I guess the laptop is garbage
[22:46] <Stroganoff> oops
[22:46] <Stroganoff> double oops
[22:47] <Stroganoff> my favourite bug
[22:47] <Stroganoff> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/202959
[22:47] <Stroganoff> but these chroot errors are new for me
[22:47] <Stroganoff> anyway i'd try installing gutsy alternate...
[22:47] <anom01y> Stroganoff: hopefully the kubuntu installer cd I am going to try on a newer computer works
[22:48] <anom01y> Stroganoff: can you give me the link for the gutsy alternate for xubuntu ???
[22:48] <Stroganoff> http://tomfichtner.de/linux/wiki/LowMemory
[22:48] <Stroganoff> i only have this torrent lin
[22:49] <anom01y> Stroganoff: is this just as good as the one I was just trying ?????
[22:49] <Stroganoff> gutsy = ubuntu 7.10 = old version
[22:49] <Stroganoff> hardy = ubuntu 8.04 = current version
[22:49] <anom01y> still supported and works fine ???
[22:50] <Stroganoff> yes gutsy still works find and you can easily upgrade to hardy once it's installed
[22:50] <Stroganoff> see the mentioned wiki page for instructions. but maybe you have some different issues than my experience
[22:50] <anom01y> ok I will download it and follow the instructions
[22:51] <xTheSaintx> Hello?
[22:51] <xTheSaintx> Wat?
[22:51] <xTheSaintx> I asked what style i can download for xubuntu
[22:52] <Stroganoff> xTheSaintx there should be numerous styles already installed
[22:52] <Stroganoff> anyway http://www.xfce-look.org/
[23:01] <steven_> can i eneab;e mult workstations on xub?
[23:02] <cody-somerville> steven_, what do you mean?
[23:02] <steven_> hello cody!
[23:02] <steven_> how are you?>
[23:03] <steven_> you are the official helper no?
[23:03] <steven_> well i was wondering
[23:03] <steven_> on ubuntu
[23:03] <steven_> i have mult workstations
[23:03] <steven_> 4 to be exact
[23:03] <steven_> can i do that in xubuntu?
[23:03] <cody-somerville> Yup
[23:03] <Odd-rationale> steven_: you mean workspaces?
[23:03] <cody-somerville> Applications > Settings > Settings Manager > Workspaces
[23:04] <steven_> thanks
[23:04] <steven_> hey how can install a new icon theme?
[23:04] <Odd-rationale> !theme
[23:04] <steven_> i downloaded a new theme
[23:04] <steven_> i have a tarball of it
[23:04] <Odd-rationale> whoops wrong one.
[23:04] <steven_> i can;'t drag and drop can i
[23:04] <cody-somerville> Unpack the icon archive in ~/.icons/
[23:04] <Odd-rationale> !xfce-themes
[23:04] <steven_> i mean a new overall theme
[23:04] <steven_> i have it
[23:05] <steven_> i tried unpacking into ./themes
[23:05] <steven_> i will try again
[23:05] <Odd-rationale> must be ~/.themes not ./themes ...
[23:06] <steven_> Could not display the folder "file:///home/steven/themes"
[23:06] <steven_> any ideas?
[23:07] <Odd-rationale> try .themes
[23:07] <Odd-rationale> instead of themes
[23:07] <steven_> Error creating folder '/.themes': Permission denied
[23:07] <steven_> hmmm
[23:08] <steven_> weird
[23:08] <steven_> any ideas?
[23:09] <Stroganoff> ~/.themes
[23:09] <Stroganoff> or /home/steven/.themes
[23:09] <Stroganoff> or $HOME/.themes
[23:09] <Stroganoff> but not /.themes
[23:09] <steven_> Could not display the folder "file:///home/steven/.themes"
[23:10] <steven_> hmmm
[23:10] <steven_> i have
[23:10] <steven_> okay
[23:10] <steven_> from the top
[23:10] <steven_> i am in the folder where the tarball is
[23:11] <Stroganoff> http://healthlinks.washington.edu/howto/navigating/tilde.gif
[23:11] <steven_> i know!
[23:11] <steven_> lolol
[23:12] <steven_> trying
[23:12] <steven_> i am a bit of a n00b
[23:12] <steven_> okay opened tarball in archive manager
[23:12] <steven_> pressed extract button
[23:12] <steven_> it asks for location
[23:13] <Stroganoff> ~/.themes
[23:13] <steven_> Could not display the folder "file:///home/steven/.themes"
[23:13] <steven_> There is no default action associated with this location.
[23:13] <Stroganoff> o.O
[23:13] <steven_> ?
[23:14] <steven_> lol n00b help
[23:14] <Stroganoff> well
[23:14] <steven_> well
[23:14] <Stroganoff> i think the archive manager is crap
[23:14] <steven_> what should i use?
[23:14] <Stroganoff> the terminal :D
[23:14] <Stroganoff> !bash | steven_
[23:15] <Stroganoff> go to the directory containing the .tar.gz then run this:
[23:15] <Stroganoff> mkdir ~/.themes
[23:15] <Stroganoff> tar -xf style.tar.gz -C ~/.themes
[23:16] <Stroganoff> replace "style.tar.gz"
[23:17] <steven_> okay
[23:17] <steven_> done
[23:17] <steven_> hey it worked!
[23:18] <steven_> thanks guys!
[23:27] <steven_> hey the theme installed
[23:27] <steven_> but doesn't look at all like the screenshots
[23:27] <steven_> normal?
[23:38] <TheSheep> steven_: you might miss the theme engine that this theme uses
[23:38] <steven_> i think i am
[23:38] <steven_> what should i do?
[23:40] <steven_> how can i tweak themes?
[23:43] <TheSheep> steven_: they are just text files
[23:44] <TheSheep> steven_: you can edit them
[23:45] <steven_> hoping for a simple gui