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mrooneyhello, I was wondering what the reason is for the existence of pages like https://launchpad.net/~michael, where they are for users which don't use launchpad00:05
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stdinmrooney: they are created when a package from debian is merged or something like that00:20
mrooneystdin: I see, do they serve a useful purpose?00:21
mrooneyI am moderately active on Launchpad and was hoping to register that nickname00:21
gmbmrooney: Well, if that person doesn't actually use Launchpad it's possible that they could be renamed to free up the namespace. I'd suggest you file a question at http://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad requesting that that name be assigned to you (or at least freed up).00:22
* stdin was about to say ^ that ^00:23
gmbGreat minds and all that.00:26
mrooneygmb, stdin: thanks!00:26
mrooneyshould the topic of the question be generic like "How can an unused nickname be removed from the namespace?" or should it be specific to this instance?00:27
gmbmrooney: Be specifc so that an admin can help you out without having to ask a lot of questions.00:28
mrooneygreat, I got ~michael, but lost ~mrooney as a result. is there any way to have two? like an alias?01:03
jmlmrooney: you could form a team with one member, perhaps.01:05
jmlmrooney: however, I think the general principle is "one name per person".01:06
kikomrooney, no, not today.01:06
mrooneyfair enough, thanks!01:07
kikoand if you file a bug requesting that I'll regret having renamed ~michael in the first place!!!01:07
mrooneykiko: no no, I don't want to cheat the system or anything!01:07
mrooneyjust curious01:07
kiko:)01:08
mrooneythanks for the fast turn around, launchpad itself appears to be quite an efficient machine from looking at the questions01:08
kikowe try harder!01:09
kikounfortunately we have many more requests to handle :)01:09
Bodsdahi, ive just registered a new project of mine on launchpad. I was wondering where is the best place to host the files? where is most popular?01:44
persiaBodsda: LP does file hosting.  Just stuff the source in bzr and put the files in /+download01:46
kikoBodsda, on launchpad itself :)01:46
Bodsdaoh i didnt know i can host on launchpad,.,.ty01:47
Bodsdakiko, persia -- so im after the green "Import your project" button?01:49
kikoBodsda, no, first register a project release under a series, such as trunk.01:50
kikoBodsda, then, upload files!01:50
Bodsdakiko, sorry i dont really undertsand,.,. ive registered the project on launchpad. Then gone to the code tab, after not knowing what to do i clicked on the learn more for the creat a branch, which took me here -- https://help.launchpad.net/CreatingAHostedBranch01:52
Bodsdais this right so far?01:52
kikoBodsda, nope.01:53
kikoBodsda, well, what sort of files are you uploading, and what for?01:54
Bodsdakiko, they are python scripts so just text files01:54
kikoBodsda, the question I have is whether this is something you want to do version control of, or whether it represents a project release.01:55
Bodsdakiko, version control01:56
kikoBodsda, ah! so tell me first, do you already have a CVS or SVN repository with these?01:56
Bodsdaim guessing that i dont as i dont know what a CVS or SVN repo is01:57
Bodsdakiko, do i need one?01:58
kikonope!01:59
kikoBodsda, all you need to do is create a bzr branch containing your scripts01:59
kikoand push to launchpad01:59
kikolet me find you a tutorial.01:59
Bodsdakiko, thankyou,.,.i think i need one,.,.;~)02:00
kikoBodsda, 3 links follow. 02:02
kikohttp://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/en/mini-tutorial/index.html02:02
kikohttp://www.justuber.com/blog/2007/04/25/how-to-use-bazaar-and-launchpad-for-hosting-your-code/02:02
kikohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaunchpadStepByStepInstructions02:02
kikoBodsda, how's that? :)02:02
Bodsdakiko, wicked,.cheers,.;~)02:02
Bodsdacookie for you02:02
kikoenjoy your evening02:02
* Bodsda hands kiko a cookie02:02
kikoI'm off to bed!02:02
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Bodsdanight02:02
jjessegood evening, i'm working on add-5-a-day and it is currently locked by jorge@bazaar.launchpad.net can i bzr break-lock on it does someone else need to do it?02:14
PengYou should confirm with him that he's not actually doing something with it at the moment...02:15
kiko-zzzjjesse, how long has it been held?02:16
kiko-zzzjcastro, ping ^^^02:16
jjesse35 minutes02:16
kiko-zzzhmmm02:16
jcastromy bad02:16
jcastroapparently I was suspending while committing02:16
jcastrolet me clean it up02:16
kiko-zzzwhat a great idea! :)02:16
jjesse:)02:17
ajmitchjcastro: that's generally a bad thing, isn't it? :)02:17
Bodsdahi, when i try to push my files to launchpad i get this error -- bzr: ERROR: Unsupported protocol for url "sftp://Bodsda@bazaar.launchpad.net/~Bodsda/termTutor/termTutor": Unable to import paramiko (required for sftp support): No module named paramiko02:17
Bodsdawhats should i do?02:18
jcastroajmitch: well, I didn't think it would take THAT long02:18
PengBodsda: Install paramiko?02:18
ajmitchjcastro: racing to see which would finish first?02:18
kiko-zzzBodsda, how are you pushing to launchpad?02:18
kiko-zzzBodsda, are you doing bzr push lp:... ?02:18
BodsdaPeng, there is no package in ubuntu repo's called paramiko02:18
PengBodsda: apt-get install python-paramiko, then.02:19
Bodsdakiko-zzz,  bzr push sftp://Bodsda@bazaar.launchpad.net/~Bodsda/termTutor/termTutor02:19
stdinBodsda: try using ssh+bzr://02:19
PengBodsda: If you used lp:~Bodsda/termTutor/termTutor, it would use bzr+ssh, which is faster.02:19
PengOr use bzr+ssh directly, yeah.02:19
kiko-zzzBodsda, okay, some tips there. first, use bzr+ssh:// instead of sftp://02:19
stdinwhich ever way round it is02:19
BodsdaPeng, cheers im installing python-paramiko now02:19
kiko-zzzBodsda, second, the name in the URL is your launchpad ID, which is lowercase02:19
kiko-zzzBodsda, don't use sftp:// if you can avoid it -- its support will be removed soon anyway.02:20
kiko-zzzI really need to go now02:20
PengIt will?02:20
PengRemoved from LP?02:20
kiko-zzzyes02:20
kiko-zzzit is evil and eats hard drives and kittens02:20
PengIsn't sftp necessary for upgrade?02:20
Bodsdakk,. cheers kiko-zzz 02:20
kiko-zzzPeng, not that I know of -- but spiv and thumper will love telling you about that while I sleep. :)02:20
jcastrokiko-zzz: bzr tells me that it can't aquire the remote lock02:22
thumperPeng: very soon, you'll be able to upgrade over bzr+ssh02:22
jmlsftp isn't *that* evil.02:22
thumperjcastro: what are you doing?02:22
jcastrobzr commit in ~.5-a-day02:22
jcastroer, ~.5-a-day-data actually02:23
Pengthumper: ok02:23
Bodsdaok, the push to launchpad said "Created new branch" -- where can i find the files?02:24
PengBodsda: What files?02:25
PengBodsda: What do you want to do with them?02:25
BodsdaPeng, the ones ive just uploaded (think thats what ive just done)02:25
PengBodsda: You can find the branch exactly where you put it.02:26
PengBodsda: If you want to download a file directly, you probably can from the code viewer (Loggerhead).02:26
BodsdaPeng, yeah thats what i though,.,. but in the code viewer it says there is no files,.,. is there a delay from the time i issue the command till they are downloadable/viewable online?02:27
PengBodsda: They'll be available from bzr instantly, but some other things will take a while. I wouldn't expect Loggerhead to, but it's possible.02:28
mwhudsona while == about a minute02:29
mwhudsonfwiw02:29
BodsdaPeng, this is where im looking for them -- https://launchpad.net/termtutor/+download -- am i looking in the right place?02:29
mwhudsonBodsda: no02:29
mwhudsonBodsda: what is the branch page?02:30
Bodsdamwhudson, sorry im new to this,. i know the project page,.,.is that what you want?02:30
spivBodsda: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~bodssocks/termtutor/termtutor/files02:30
spivYou can see the branches of termtutor listed at https://code.launchpad.net/termtutor/02:31
Bodsdamwhudson, sorry just found it -- spiv,,.cheers,.was in the wrong place02:31
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kiko-zzzjcastro, fixed?02:34
jcastrokiko-zzz: yep02:35
jcastrodidn't know about "bzr break-lock"02:36
jcastrohandy02:36
jcastrokiko-zzz: that will teach me to suspend my laptop right after a bugjam!02:36
kiko-zzzjcastro, heh02:36
spivThe next bzr release will tell you about "bzr break-lock" when it fails to acquire a lock.02:38
Hobbseeokay, why am i hitting an internal server error?04:23
mwhudsonHobbsee: dunno, what are you doing?04:40
Hobbseemwhudson: i'm running a script of pitti's called buildd.py, and attempting to do a retry on a package.04:42
mwhudsonah04:42
Hobbseefor any package i try to retry, i get a  HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error.04:42
emgenthello04:45
lifelessHobbsee: do you get an oops id?04:48
Hobbseelifeless: it's via a script, so, no.04:50
* Hobbsee looks04:51
lifelesswell, I would hack the script to get the content of the error, hopefully it will have an oops id04:51
Hobbseelifeless: i don't know python well enough to do that, it appears.04:55
Hobbseelifeless: the error is happening with the script at http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/scripts/buildd.py04:57
* lifeless wipes the blood of his eyes04:59
lifelesswhat line does it fail on05:00
wgrantHobbsee: Maybe work out which URL it's attempting to retrieve and go there manually?05:01
Hobbseelifeless: http://rafb.net/p/OEbg9E12.html05:01
Hobbseewgrant: alreayd tried that, and it seems to work.05:01
Hobbseewgrant: so i'm guessing that my python is not good enough to grok the right line, o rsomething.05:01
* wgrant lacks privileges over that build, so goes back to calculus.05:03
lifelessHobbsee: so, around the last line - the urlopener line05:03
Hobbseelifeless: i think so05:03
lifelessHobbsee: add a try: ... except urllib2.HTTPError, e:05:03
lifelessthen do import pdb;pdb.set_trace() in the except block05:04
lifelesswhen it fails, inspect e05:04
jameshget it to print out e.read()05:06
jameshand look for the OOPS05:06
Hobbseesigh.05:08
Hobbseeretrying https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/1:2.4.2-2ubuntu1/+build/630041 (hppa)05:08
HobbseeApplication error.  Unauthenticated user POSTing to page that requires authentication.05:08
wgrantShouldn't that 403?05:09
persiaIt should.  That's not a good excuse for a 500.05:09
wgrantWell, technically 401, but we're not using HTTP auth.05:09
* Hobbsee wonders why the cookie is not working, then05:10
lifelessplease file a bug05:13
lifeless500 is not appropriate ever in this case05:14
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mptGoooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!07:59
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tarzeaucan someone help me about #35788 questions?09:34
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RhondaI have a question about the +editlanguages setting about language preferences: I can check multiple languages - but how do I order them in the way of what language I actually do prefer over others, besides to which I am able to read/want to have displayed at all?11:08
flyingparchmentis there a way to make loggerhead wrap lines in commit messages?  it's kind of hard to read a paragraph as one realy long line11:17
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wgrantRhonda: I'm not sure +editlanguages means what you think it does. It's not for the Launchpad interface language, it's for which languages you want to see (stats for) when translating, and other Launchpad Translations things.12:04
RhondaAh, then the description is a bit misleading ...12:05
wgrantOh, and Launchpad Answers as well.12:06
wgrantWhat did you think it did?12:06
RhondaYou are right, I seem to have misread that oneline description ...12:08
wgrantRhonda: You thought it chose the Launchpad interface language? The description could well be taken to mean that.12:08
RhondaIsn't help.launchpad.net part of launchpad? I seem to have got logged out when I switched to that page through some of the links ...12:09
wgrantIt's a MoinMoin wiki themed to look like Launchpad.12:09
wgrantThe cookies aren't currently shared.12:09
Rhondawgrant: Yes, thought it would (also) regulate the interface language.12:09
wgrantRhonda: Right, the description should be clarified.12:09
* wgrant looks for a bug.12:09
RhondaSeeing it in shortform only as "preferred languages" I would have expected that. But then, there is also my browser setting so somehow duplicating that doesn't make much sense, so ...12:10
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Ekusheyhi, is there a way to merge 2 LP accounts?13:29
lifelessyes, there is a merge facility13:29
Ekusheylifeless, can i do it myself, or do i need to talk to an admin for that?13:30
lifelesstheres a page in the ui somewhere :P13:31
Ekusheycan't find it :(13:33
andrea-bsEkushey: https://edge.launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge13:34
lifelessare you logged in?13:34
Ekusheythanks, andrea-bs 13:37
Ekusheyphone call, sorry... yes it worked :)13:40
mohihi :)13:47
mohihow can we traslate the projects in our traslation team? I mean to have the packages under our assigned packaged for translation?13:50
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Saj0577Can i have some help with my GPG key please and decrypting it from email.14:22
mtayloris there a way to get branch merge proposals to a branch I own to send me an email? 14:24
Saj0577how I decrypt my openGPG key that i got via email form LP?14:24
mtaylorSaj0577: um. you should _have_ a GPG key yourself, no? 14:25
Saj0577yeah sure14:25
mtaylorSaj0577: and you uploaded your public key to lp? 14:25
Saj0577yeah and i received the email14:25
mtaylorright. (I'm assuming you're on linux?)14:25
Saj0577Ubuntu 8.04 (and i received the email through a web email based email)14:26
mtaylorsave the email to a file and run "gpg --decrypt name.of.file.I.saved.email.to"14:26
Saj0577the whole email?14:26
mtaylorum, give it a try? 14:27
Saj0577kk 14:27
mtaylorsorry - it's been a couple of years since I got my mail, I don't remember what it looks like14:27
Saj0577it k14:27
gnomefreakfiregpg should let you do it from webbasedd email using firefox14:27
gnomefreaki havent tested it all that much since im having problems with our package of it14:28
mtaylorbah! firefox is for wimps. in my day, we just telnetted to port 80 and read the HTML by hand, drawing the web pages with sheep's blood on parchament!14:28
Saj0577firegpg did not work14:28
Saj0577mtaylor : that worked (using the whole email) thanks alot14:28
mtaylorSaj0577: sure thing!14:28
gnomefreakSaj0577: ok thanks14:28
Saj0577gnomefreak: It may work for firefox 2 though :)14:29
gnomefreakSaj0577: it might but im packaging it for ubuntu and firefox 3 but IIRC its 1.0*-3.0* at the moment14:29
gnomefreakwas 3.0a1 relelase until i changed it14:29
Saj0577okay 14:30
gnomefreakit builds just the deb doesnt install it in 3.014:30
gnomefreakok time for other things :)14:30
zwnjhi jtv14:33
jtvzwnj: hi!14:33
jtvHow is it going?14:33
zwnjjtv: not bad14:33
zwnjactually, we are planning the translation assignment process14:34
jtvExciting!14:34
Saj0577You know signing the ubuntu CoC. it says Open that new file, and copy and paste its contents into this box. Then click “Continue”.   opne it with gedit fine?14:34
zwnjand seems rosetta doesn't have anything for translations bugs14:34
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jtvzwnj: that's true.14:35
zwnjjtv: so, we cannot assign the translation of one package to a team/person, and get the review throw the bug, etc14:35
zwnjjtv: any hope to get such a feature soon?14:35
jtvzwnj: there is some discussion going on about this... one way to do it I guess would be using bug tags.14:35
jtvzwnj: so you could file a bug for a broken translation, and tag it with something like l18n.14:36
jtvThat would work best if it was agreed at the Ubuntu level, of course.14:36
zwnjjtv: yes, but the translation team itself cannot have bugs, so package maintainers would be involved in translation bugs, which i think would be so annoying for them14:36
Saj0577When trying to sign the CoC i get (7, 9, 'No public key'_ any advice please?14:36
zwnjjtv: who should i talk to?14:36
jtvzwnj: well, you could assign the bugs to translation teams...14:37
jtvzwnj: there has been some discussion about this just recently, so let me just look that up...14:37
jtvzwnj: ah, there it is: on the ubuntu-translators list, from 2008-05-31: "Changes to the triage guide - translation bugs"14:38
jtvzwnj: you may want to join that.  I'll also ask ArneGoetje to have a look.14:38
jtvzwnj: hmm... that discussion comes up with another suggestion: move bugs to the language pack.14:42
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aantnhello15:03
aantnI get the following warning when using bzr to connect to launchpad:15:03
aantnThe authenticity of host 'bazaar.launchpad.net (91.189.94.254)' can't be established.15:03
aantnIt's on a fresh hardy install15:04
aantnshould I be concerned about the lack of authentication15:04
domasno15:06
domasjust save the key 15:06
domasit is ssh telling you this15:06
aantndomas: I'm not sure I follow15:09
aantndomas: ah, never mind15:10
alias_knagghi, newbe question here:15:13
alias_knagghow to edit my comment to a bug?15:13
PengI'm not sure you can.15:13
alias_knagginnadvertently left an email addres..15:13
LaneyNo, you can't15:14
spivOh, huh, those little yellow icons are pencils.  They looked like exclamation marks to me.15:14
alias_knaggthen who can?15:14
spivalias_knagg: email addresses are only shown to logged in users.15:14
mtaylorhey guys...15:14
alias_knaggnot the project owner it seems..15:14
mtaylor"Launchpad has not been able to mirror this branch. The last attempt was 25 minutes ago. (KeyboardInterrupt) Launchpad will try again in 11 hours. If you have fixed the problem, please ask Launchpad to try again. "15:14
mtaylorI've heard you might be upgrading mirror machines? 15:14
mtayloror is this a real problem15:14
alias_knagghm.. that's right15:15
alias_knaggbut not exactly hard for a bot to register..15:16
zwnjjtv: seems there won't be any changes soon for this problem15:16
alias_knaggany admin in this room who can edit a bug comment?15:17
jtvzwnj: I alerted Arne to it.  He's in a better position to deal with Ubuntu translation.15:18
zwnjjtv: and another question, is there anyway to upload PO files as suggestions?  i mean non-members can upload PO files for a translation, instead of doing the translation on the web UI15:18
zwnjjtv: ok, thanks.  can i find him in IRC too?15:19
jtvzwnj: interesting idea!15:20
zwnjin fact, the web interface is more better for review, than for translation.15:21
jtvzwnj: hadn't occurred to me, but it's certainly an idea for a feature.  We'd have to do some other work to prevent this from overloading us though.15:21
jtvzwnj: just a moment, I'm seeing if we have a blueprint for this.15:21
zwnjalso this would help us to import suggestions using our glossary from mozilla project15:22
jtvzwnj: I'm registering a blueprint for what you're saying.  We'd need better facilities for rejecting certain problem cases first though, or our manual review load could skyrocket.15:27
zwnjyes, i understand15:28
zwnjthanks again :)15:28
zwnjjtv: should i follow-up the translation-bug problem on the list?15:28
jtvIn fact there can already be limited cases where an upload is turned into suggestions.15:28
jtvzwnj: I think so—even if it's just "yes I like this too."  :-)15:29
zwnjhow's that?15:29
jtvzwnj: to show that there is more interest in the idea.15:34
jtvOh, did you mean the "limited cases" thing?15:34
zwnjjtv: yes15:34
jtvSorry about that.  I can think of one case where the import mechanism will turn an upload into suggestions:15:35
jtvThe changes in a PO file are dated by the PO-Revision-Date field in the header, not by the moment the file is uploaded.15:35
jtvWhen changes "cross," the importer can turn imported translations into suggestions to avoid overwriting newer, better translations.15:36
zwnjoh, got it15:42
zwnjjtv: could you give me the link of the blueprint please?15:42
jtvzwnj: oops, sorry—a few other things going on as well.  It's https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/upload-suggestions15:44
zwnjjtv: and just another question, in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-fa/+assignedbugs there's a block in the sidebar named "Ubuntu Persian".  what's that?  i want to know why i don't have that on ubuntu-l10n-fa-contributors page.15:56
jtvzwnj: I think that's just the name of the team that got truncated.15:58
jtvBut not sure.15:59
zwnjuh, it's because the reviewers team is a member of the contributors team16:01
zwnjbut the name of the block was so interesting16:01
zwnjjtv: why Wubi is not listed in Hardy packages? https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+lang/fa/16:35
jtvzwnj: I don't know.  I don't work directly on Ubuntu, but I thought it was in there somewhere.16:36
zwnjjtv: who knows?16:37
jtvzwnj: Maybe pitti does.16:38
zwnjthe wubi project has this page, but i doubt these translation goes on the next update of Hardi. https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/trunk/+pots/wubi16:38
jtvHe doesn't seem to be here right now though.16:38
jtvOh, right, they have an upstream project registered.16:38
jtvzwnj: I don't see wubi in my packages list either, so the question is: why is wubi not an Ubuntu package?16:41
nikolaidisThis may sound ignorant, but isn't Wubi something you run in Windows, and not under Ubuntu at all?16:41
zwnjexactly.  this would be so confusing for newbies16:42
zwnjnikolaidis: probably, but it's on the installation cd...16:43
nikolaidisRight, but it's not something you run in Ubuntu... aren't Ubuntu packages for programs you install and run under Ubuntu?16:43
nikolaidisIIRC, Firefox and Abiword for Windows are also on the installation CD. But the Windows versions aren't "ubuntu" packages either, right?16:44
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gordhelloo, small typo (i think..) here: https://help.launchpad.net/CreatingAHostedBranch - in 'push location explained' by “name“ it means ”branch” no?17:01
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kikogord, let me check17:17
alias_knaggHi. 17:19
alias_knaggIs there an admin in the room who could remove an email adress from a bug comment for me?17:19
alias_knagg( yes I know that my adress is only harvested by logged in crawlers. )17:19
kikogord, good catch. fixed17:19
kikoalias_knagg, ask a question (see /topic)17:19
gord:)17:19
alias_knagghm.. topic dissappears over right edge here in pidgin..17:20
Pengalias_knagg: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad17:21
alias_knaggbut i presume you mean to point me to answers17:21
alias_knaggyes yes17:21
alias_knaggbeen there done that17:21
Pengok17:21
PengNever mind me then. :)17:21
intellectronicaalias_knagg: if you hover with the mouse over the topic line in pidgin you get a tool-tip with the complete topic17:21
alias_knaggcouple of bugs filed before17:21
alias_knaggseems to be out of order here, but never mind.17:22
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TeTeTis there a way to provide authentication credentials to Launchpad besides the cookie? E.g. the username and password pair, but sent from a script rather than interactively 19:43
jordibarry: ping?19:46
geserTeTeT: iirc python-launchpad-bugs also accepts a username and a password but I don't know how it does it internally19:52
beunoxmlrpc probably19:53
mtaylorkiko-fud: around? 21:52
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