=== Rinchen-phone is now known as Rinchen === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 10 Jun 11:00 UTC: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 10 Jun 15:00 UTC: Server Team | 11 Jun 06:00 UTC: Platform Team | 11 Jun 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 12 Jun 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team === asac_ is now known as asac [04:24] @schedule Vancouver [04:24] nickellery: Schedule for America/Vancouver: Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day | 10 Jun 04:00: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 10 Jun 08:00: Server Team | 10 Jun 23:00: Platform Team | 11 Jun 10:00: QA Team | 12 Jun 06:00: Desktop Team === lamont` is now known as lamont [11:26] @schedule amsterdam [11:26] leoquant: Schedule for Europe/Amsterdam: Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day | 10 Jun 13:00: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 10 Jun 17:00: Server Team | 11 Jun 08:00: Platform Team | 11 Jun 19:00: QA Team | 12 Jun 15:00: Desktop Team [11:50] hai guys [11:51] @now [11:51] udienz-: Current time in Etc/UTC: June 10 2008, 10:51:59 - Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day [11:52] * Belutz will be back in 15 [11:53] Belutz: elkbuntu: zakame: Hi [11:53] hi [11:55] Good Evening [11:55] good afternoon [11:56] persia: hi [11:56] persia, leoquant, amachu: good afternoon [11:56] hi [11:56] :) [11:57] @schedule Jakarta [11:57] udienz-: Schedule for Asia/Jakarta: Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day | 10 Jun 18:00: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 10 Jun 22:00: Server Team | 11 Jun 13:00: Platform Team | 12 Jun 00:00: QA Team | 12 Jun 20:00: Desktop Team [11:58] * elkbuntu looks at the clock [11:58] still two minutes! [11:58] * persia rushes off to the green room for just one more fix [11:58] elkbuntu: yes [11:59] allo allo [11:59] shall we start ? [11:59] we should [12:00] * udienz- ready [12:00] yep [12:00] hello everybody [12:00] hello amachu [12:00] who do we have? === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 10 Jun 15:00 UTC: Server Team | 11 Jun 06:00 UTC: Platform Team | 11 Jun 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 12 Jun 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team [12:00] let me call one by one [12:01] as in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania [12:01] please say hi and introduce yourself to the board, about you, your questions [12:02] your contributions etc., [12:02] and then we shall have questions for you [12:02] shall we go now [12:02] i believe we have a quorum? [12:03] me, amachu, persia, elkbuntu I recognize, I presume udienz is part of the board [12:03] 5 has to be quorate :) [12:03] hai guys [12:03] lifeless: udienz- is an applicant. [12:03] ah, k. 4 then. still good [12:03] persia, yup [12:04] i'm an applicant too [12:04] First, Nicholas Ng [12:04] * persia pings missing people [12:04] i'm lagging very badly, so please excuse me for the delay to reply [12:04] nbliang is the irc nick [12:04] * takdir too [12:04] not online [12:05] lifeless: nbliang isn't present it seems [12:05] let me call the next, udienz [12:05] hi all... [12:05] my name is Mahyuddin Susanto but you can call me udienz [12:05] i'm 23 Years old, Male, currently i'm studiyng at Electrical Engineering Jember University (200KM from Surabaya or 500KM from Jakarta) [12:06] currently i'm member at Indonesian Ubuntu Foundation (documentation Team), administrator Ubuntu-Indonesian Translator, keynote HRP/GRP, Writer/activist at Surabaya Linux Council (KLAS/http://surabaya.linux.or.id) [12:06] my account at LP is http://edge.launchpad.net/~udienz, [12:07] udienz-, do you have a wiki page? [12:07] yup [12:07] * Belutz is back [12:07] HRP/GRP? [12:07] or are they all the same ;) [12:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Udienz [12:07] HRP is Hardy Release Party [12:07] lifeless: Hardy Release Party [12:07] what's HRP/GRP mean ? :-) [12:07] GRP is Gutsy Release Party [12:07] ah [12:07] :D [12:08] wow :-) [12:08] enough [12:09] udienz-: Does BlankOn coordinate with Edubuntu in any way? [12:09] are the release parties big? [12:09] persia: no, BlankOn based at ubuntu [12:09] elkbuntu: yup, 200 person [12:10] cool, that's a fairly big crowd [12:10] persia: BlankOn Linux is a distribution which is targetted for schools and small to medium enterprises in Indonesia. [12:10] udienz-, what would you do if you are approved as an ubuntu member? [12:11] Belutz: i wish improved my contribution better than today [12:11] and also distributing Ubuntu more than today [12:11] how does the membership help this? [12:12] * udienz- proposed Ubuntu repository server at my campus [12:12] how will the membership help you contribute? [12:12] elkbuntu, sadly to say, but legality is very needed in our country [12:12] elkbuntu: because i can print my name at my bussiness, so i'm more free to be keynote [12:12] :D [12:13] udienz-, you mean carry business cards? [12:13] no..D [12:13] im not sure i understand [12:13] i believe if approved it can grow up more spirit [12:13] the wordpress theme is nice, have you considered putting it in an ubuntu package? [12:14] lifeless, cureently i'm studiying packaging it. but it take a long time [12:15] and this theme have a bug [12:15] lifeless, thanks [12:16] udienz-: Belutz know you? [12:16] :D [12:16] you have a very big karma on translations, that's good :) how much of the current distro do you think is already translated to ID? [12:16] zakame: ubuntu [12:16] ubuntume [12:17] huh? [12:17] this is example my contributions: http://wiki.blankonlinux.or.id/wiki/Dokumentasi [12:18] and this is my activity http://www.ubuntu-id.org/news/hrp-jember-sukses-besar [12:19] udienz-: yes, I mean ubuntu :) [12:19] if I may add, udienz- contributions has been very big for Ubuntu Indonesia, especially for distributing Ubuntu in East Java area [12:20] I've heard enough [12:20] Belutz: thanks [12:20] zakame: sorry :D [12:21] * udienz- nervous [12:21] udienz-: Dod you bring anyone else to cheer for you? [12:22] sorry, i've been distracted by a problem [12:22] persia: RameTux please speak [12:22] elkbuntu: me too [12:22] udienz-: don't be nervious [12:22] persia: RameTux please... === thekorn_ is now known as thekor === thekor is now known as thekorn [12:23] Takdir [12:23] * takdir support udienz [12:23] :D [12:23] * RameTux too [12:23] :-) [12:23] udienz-: you have RameTux ? [12:23] thats good [12:23] anything in particular udienz- does that stands out most ? [12:23] Amachu: yup, takdir [12:24] takdir: ok [12:24] RameTux: takdir: ^ [12:24] amachu__: ;-) [12:24] RameTux: go ahead and can we have few words from you [12:25] RameTux: do you nervous too? [12:25] tell about yourself, and then about udienz- [12:25] * elkbuntu listens [12:26] your experiences with him, may be briefly [12:26] if nervous [12:26] amachu: RameTux is my partner, maybe he nervous [12:26] :D [12:26] :D [12:26] he could be still typing too [12:26] thats ok [12:26] and takdir ? [12:27] yup [12:27] takdir: anything in particular udienz- does that stands out most ? [12:27] i'm apply for membership tii [12:27] too [12:27] RameTux: anything in particular udienz- does that stands out most ? [12:27] udienz make a documentation for ubuntu indonesia [12:27] :D [12:27] i think he is the most active person on the loco team [12:28] sorry, a lot of nervous :D [12:28] RameTux: thank you [12:28] as u can see his contribution that he said before ;-) [12:28] takdir: thanks [12:28] may I as the LoCo leader speak for udienz- ? [12:29] Belutz: hey, i asked that way back [12:29] :-) [12:29] or is it prohibited because i'm a member of the approval board? [12:29] :D [12:29] Belutz, please. [12:29] sorry, i'm still at the office [12:29] I don't see why it should be prohibited [12:30] udienz-, has been very helpful in Ubuntu-ID mailing list helping people with problems [12:30] but lets move along, its late here [12:30] thanks Belutz, Takdir, RameTux [12:30] he also the contact person for ubuntu-id for east java area [12:31] and he actively write some of his experiences using ubuntu in his blog, that can help ubuntu users in indonesia [12:31] I think that's all from me [12:31] saw all those at a short run [12:31] Belutz: thanks [12:31] sorry for being so distracted. he seems to have made a good effort indeed [12:32] elkbuntu: yes [12:32] for all his contributions for ubuntu-id I could give him +1 [12:32] so, any more questions to ask ? [12:32] (I have none) [12:32] nor i. +1 [12:33] +1 from me, although I'd like to see more of the various projects more integrated with Ubuntu [12:33] neither too.. thats fair enough +1 [12:33] neither me too.. [12:33] * elkbuntu agrees with persia [12:33] zakame: there? [12:34] * udienz- still waiting [12:34] +1 [12:35] persia: I agree re the projects, but I think that that is largely orthogonal; he is contributing both directly and indirectly [12:35] lifeless: thanks... [12:36] the problem in our country is that we still focus in gathering more FOSS users than FOSS developers, how can they be a developer if they doesn't use it [12:36] +1 on the translation works, keep it up :) [12:36] lifeless: Entirely. I believe udienz- deserves membership based on the strength of LoCo work and translations. I'd still like to see this membership used to help transition ubuntume and BlankOn into in-repo derivatives. [12:36] persia: i too would stress on that, overall Ok [12:36] * Belutz congrats udienz- [12:37] hihihi [12:37] * RameTux congrats udienz- ;-) [12:37] udienz-: Welcome :-) [12:37] congrats udienz- :) [12:37] congrats [12:37] Russell John [12:37] [12:37] Ekushey [12:37] congrats udienz- [12:37] awesome.... thanks all.... thanks amachu, persia, Belutz, lifeless, Ekushy [12:38] kudos! Keep it going [12:38] present [12:38] thanks zakame [12:38] care to tell us about yourself and your Ubuntu contributions? [12:38] Hello everyone, my name is Russell John, I'm the team leader of Ubuntu Bangladesh. I formed this team in 2006 and got approved in 2007. My LP page is at https://launchpad.net/~russell.john and wiki page is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Russell. [12:38] I'm mainly an advocacy guy and I do Ubuntu related advocacy in my country. I speak at different occasions about Ubuntu and encourage people to use it at home and offices. [12:38] I also maintaing our website, translate news items, coordinate with our team mates and volunteers, and keep in touch with universities and different organisations where we can penetrate. I help users via our mailing list, forum and also through phone. [12:38] I'm an active Ubuntu advocate and I would be honoured get Ubuntu membership. [12:39] what sort of occasions? [12:39] That's a very new LP page :) [12:39] lifeless, workshops mostly [12:39] persia, i renamed it actually [12:41] Ekushey: what role you play with iosn? [12:41] Ekushey, same question, what would you do if you become an ubuntu member? [12:41] ubuntu specific workshops, or ??? how many folk are there... [12:41] amachu__, i'm maintain the bangladesh section since 2004 [12:43] Belutz, i'd like to see more people from our locoteam to become ubuntu members, and being the lead contact i think it would be helpful to get the membership myself first [12:43] lifeless, ubuntu/kubuntu specific programs, all under the banner of our loco team [12:43] Ekushey: cool [12:43] *team contact [12:44] liason with MNC, NGO software firms? [12:44] amachu__, yes ofcoarse [12:44] i used to work for an internation NGO and it helped me to get in touch with others NGOs too [12:45] little elaborate please, thats a learning too [12:45] Ekushey, how many members in ubuntu-bd right now? [12:46] amachu__, these NGOs are setting up telecenters all around the country, and people would learn how to use computers and internet. we're pushing them to use ubuntu/edubuntu on this machines. [12:47] Belutz, around 200 on mailing list and 90 on LP [12:47] nice [12:47] I have no more questions btw, +1 [12:47] +1 from me too [12:47] are they all active in offline activity like you do? [12:47] thanks, lifeless [12:47] Ekushey: fine. how about contributions to translations [12:47] thanks, elkbuntu [12:48] ubuntu bangaldesh members make contributions to Bengali? [12:48] Belutz, most of them, yes. on out last meet, 70 people joined us. [12:48] amachu__, yes of course! [12:48] great [12:48] Ekushey: Did you bring anyone to cheer for you? [12:49] persia, not really [12:49] ekushey has been in the loco circle for quite a while [12:49] +1 from me [12:49] elkbuntu: feel free to cheer ;P [12:49] thanks, Belutz [12:49] elkbuntu: yes, he has been :-) [12:49] lifeless, that is me cheering :) [12:50] :) [12:50] +1 from me [12:50] +1 from me [12:50] * Belutz cheer for elkbuntu [12:50] thanks amachu__ :) [12:50] hello [12:50] thank you persia! [12:50] damn that's a lot [12:50] +1 [12:50] Congrats! [12:50] Ekushey, congrats :) [12:50] grats [12:50] thanks zakame :) [12:50] Ekushey, welcome aboard [12:51] thank you everyone... it's a pleasure :) [12:51] Ekushey, hope to see ubuntu-bd growing [12:51] any malaysian representative here? [12:51] thanks :) [12:51] welcome Ekushey! congrats! [12:52] takdir [12:52] GunbladeIV, not that i know of [12:52] thanks udienz- mate :) [12:52] yup [12:52] I'm Takdir, from Indonesia, work in government. [12:52] Belutz, udienz- : hi id members. [12:52] I use ubuntu and i promote ubuntu with seminar and workshop [12:52] especially in ubuntu release party. [12:53] i'm member ubuntu indonesian, http://groups.google.com/group/id-ubuntu [12:53] always give support if I know how to solve the problem [12:53] and [12:53] now i will join again as ubuntu translator (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-id) [12:53] because my membership expired a few month ago. [12:53] that's my introduction. thanks [12:53] my wiki page [12:53] http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MuhammadTakdir [12:55] any questions for takdir ? [12:55] seminar and workshops references? [12:56] takdir, what would you if you are an ubuntu member? [12:56] amachu__ like this ? http://www.ubuntu-id.org/news/kpli-makassar-mengadakan-pesta-rilis-hardy-dan-blankon [12:57] hi everyone! [12:57] or every 2 week workshop in base camp [12:57] hi ApOgEE- [12:57] nice to meet all of you! [12:57] takdir: what would you say your largest area of contribution is (e.g. advocacy, packaging, ...) Also, you say you promote the use of ubuntu in government and elementary schools - how successful is that (are places using it ?) [12:57] is that sinjai that you have mentioned in your wiki? [12:57] belutz, it will be give me spirit to contribute [12:58] takdir: there? [12:58] and i can write most about ubuntu in my web blog [12:58] yup [12:58] http://www.sinjai.go.id [12:58] @schedule sydney [12:58] lifeless: Schedule for Australia/Sydney: Current meeting: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 11 Jun 01:00: Server Team | 11 Jun 16:00: Platform Team | 12 Jun 03:00: QA Team | 12 Jun 23:00: Desktop Team [12:59] takdir: Could you expand on the relation between BlankOn and Ubuntu? [12:59] BlankOn is distribution derivate from ubuntu [12:59] takdir: what would you say your largest area of contribution is (e.g. advocacy, packaging, ...) Also, you say you promote the use of ubuntu in government and elementary schools - how successful is that (are places using it ?) [13:00] why is it named such? [13:00] zakame, Blank then On [13:00] there is 2 school migrate their lab in to ubuntu [13:00] takdir: did you help with that migration? [13:01] yup [13:01] yup [13:01] i give instruction [13:01] and keep support [13:01] cool [13:01] actually BlankOn is a colaborative project between Ubuntu Indonesia and Indonesia Linux Movement Foundation, the main goal is to provide a linux distro that is more suitable for Indonesian users [13:02] also give edubuntu with gcompris [13:03] in government where i work, i've been migrate internet laboratory to ubuntu [13:03] and make local repository [13:03] wow [13:03] same like udienz- , takdir have been very helpful in ubuntu-id mailing list [13:04] Sinjai Regency, is small city in east indonesia [13:04] takdir: ok [13:04] * udienz- agree with Belutz [13:04] he's also one of the main contact for sulawesi island [13:05] my LP : https://launchpad.net/~muhammad-takdir [13:05] he's been very active maintaining some packages for BlankOn which is we hope that after that we could contribute to upstream [13:05] thanks belutz, udienz [13:05] :D [13:06] Belutz: takdir: udienz- : all three have met before? ;-) [13:06] * RameTux too :D [13:06] +1 from me, it sounds like there is a lot of community (in the sense of support and advocacy) as well as code-related stuff going on [13:06] amachu__, i have met takdir, but i haven't met udienz- [13:06] while MOTU would be a good route, there is enough community stuff to convince me [13:06] i agree [13:07] amachu__, he did once come to my office (a government body too) [13:07] yup, i never see udienz [13:07] :) [13:07] amachu__: indonesia is great country. it's possiblity to met [13:07] +1 from me on community, the technical stuff needs to come back upstream before it becomes interesting. [13:07] takdir is a government ubuntu/opensource activist ;-) [13:07] * udienz- wish takdir eillbe MOTU dev [13:07] and in indonesian linux conference, meet with belutz [13:07] :-) [13:07] for all his contributions to ubuntu indonesia i could give him +1 [13:07] Cheers +1 [13:07] Keep it going [13:08] udienz, i must learn much [13:08] thankx persia, amachu__, belutz [13:08] here's my humble launchpad page https://launchpad.net/~apogee [13:08] ;D [13:08] zakame: ? [13:08] * RameTux congrats takdir ;-) [13:08] persia, are you persian? [13:09] ApOgEE-: No. [13:09] ApOgEE-: you are not on the list for tonight are you ? [13:09] only 4 names there [13:09] is it? [13:09] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania [13:09] ApOgEE-: Please add yourself to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania and come back next week. [13:09] you need to put your name there [13:09] we are at the end of this meeting now [13:09] lifeless: i think we should check Nicholas is there, before we conclude [13:10] and it takes nearly 20 minutes to do a candidate [13:10] amachu__: sure [13:10] still no such nick [13:10] lifeless, ok lifeless [13:10] i'm goin home now... [13:10] takdir, welcome aboard (is it done yet?) [13:10] ApOgEE-: Suggest you to add yourself to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania [13:10] lifeless, will add later... i'm in hurry [13:11] ok amachu__ [13:11] gtg... [13:11] Is Nicholas there? [13:11] no [13:11] his nick is not online [13:11] yes.. [13:11] nbliang is the nick [13:11] nbliang hasnt been seen by nickserv for 6 days. [13:11] so we have 3 members aboard [13:12] we do. === Ekushey- is now known as Ekushey [13:12] * Belutz congrats udienz-, Ekushey- and takdir [13:12] thanks again, Belutz [13:12] thanks Belutz [13:12] Welcome udienz-, Ekushey, takdir [13:12] actually nbliang is currently busy [13:12] do i need to add myself to any LP page? [13:12] may "ubuntu member" title could make you contribute more to ubuntu and keep spreading the ubuntu spirit [13:12] thnaks All [13:13] It the same time next week good for all board members? [13:13] thaanks All [13:13] persia: we shall announce that later [13:13] there is a clash with Community Council next with [13:13] at the same time [13:14] amachu__: Ah right. OK [13:14] we shall take it off-line [13:14] So lets conclude now. shall we? [13:14] amachu__, ok [13:15] elkbuntu: lifeless: persia: there? [13:15] I'm good for conclusion. [13:16] thankyou everyone for participating [13:16] yes? [13:16] all done [13:17] we will keep you updated on further course of actions [13:17] :-) [13:17] Cheers [13:17] thanks amachu__ , elkbuntu , lifeless , zakame , persia [13:17] thanks all [13:17] :D [13:21] many thanks to all [13:21] i dont't believe it real, i think it dream [13:26] so um, who is doing the LP clickery? [13:56] @schedule chicago [13:56] lukehasnoname: Schedule for America/Chicago: Current meeting: Asia and Oceania Ubuntu Membership Approval Board | 10 Jun 10:00: Server Team | 11 Jun 01:00: Platform Team | 11 Jun 12:00: QA Team | 12 Jun 08:00: Desktop Team === ubottu changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 10 Jun 15:00 UTC: Server Team | 11 Jun 06:00 UTC: Platform Team | 11 Jun 17:00 UTC: QA Team | 12 Jun 13:00 UTC: Desktop Team | 13 Jun 15:00 UTC: Ubuntu-ni Translation Sprint [14:56] @schedule brunei [14:56] izamryan: Schedule for Asia/Brunei: Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day | 10 Jun 23:00: Server Team | 11 Jun 14:00: Platform Team | 12 Jun 01:00: QA Team | 12 Jun 21:00: Desktop Team | 13 Jun 23:00: Ubuntu-ni Translation Sprint [15:24] @schedule perth [15:24] owh: Schedule for Australia/Perth: Current meeting: Bugs for Hugs Day | 10 Jun 23:00: Server Team | 11 Jun 14:00: Platform Team | 12 Jun 01:00: QA Team | 12 Jun 21:00: Desktop Team | 13 Jun 23:00: Ubuntu-ni Translation Sprint [15:25] perth. [15:26] Most expensive place in Autralia, I hear. [15:27] lukehasnoname: Expensive for what? Says who? [15:28] living [15:28] compared to other major Autralian cities [15:28] according to wikipedia or similar [15:29] I was thinking about studying in Newcastle for a while, but expenses won't permit (I'm middle class trying to get through college. Cry for me.) [15:30] Well, I don't know about the accuracy of the statement, as that number changes all the time. I know that housing shortages have increased the house price in Perth dramatically and that the mining boom in the state has created employee shortages, but costs seem to be in touch with the rest of the country. [15:31] hm [15:31] What's an average apartment ("flat") cost, one bed, per month? [15:32] Dunno. We're paying AUD$ 330 per month for a two bedroom home 10 km from the CBD on a bus route. [15:32] s/month/week/ [15:32] You're better off looking online for real answers. [15:33]