[02:23] <JanC> I just heard some peopel complain about FF2 & FF3 packages stealing /usr/bin/firefox fro meach other after succeeding upgrades of one of them
[02:24] <JanC> I wonder how difficult it is to handle /usr/bin/firefox through "alternatives" instead?
[08:47] <[reed]> hmm
[08:47] <[reed]> this latest batch of updates removes java completely
[08:47] <[reed]> awesome
[08:50] <[reed]> on another note
[08:50] <[reed]> [02:47:53AM] <timelyx> anyone here w/ a launchpad account, reed?
[08:50] <[reed]> [02:47:54AM] <timelyx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/224350
[08:50] <[reed]> [02:48:21AM] <reed> timelyx: what about it?
[08:50] <[reed]> [02:48:28AM] <timelyx> should be squished, we're behaving per CSS spec [input type=hidden] => display:none, and the css by the reporter overrides that default mapping
[08:50] <[reed]> [02:48:40AM] <timelyx> "INVALID: per spec"
[08:50] <[reed]> I don't seem to have privileges to do that myself
[08:50] <asac> [reed]: which latest batch?
[08:50] <asac> and which java got removed?
[08:50] <[reed]> dunno... whatever Update Manager was complaining about
[08:51] <[reed]> java 6, including java-common, icedtea, and other stuff
[08:51] <[reed]> it removed all those packages
[08:51] <[reed]> and it made me do a Partial Upgrade
[08:51] <[reed]> which was odd
[08:51] <asac> if you try to install it, what happens?
[08:52] <[reed]> I don't use java anyway, so I don't care, but somebody else might be upset when Update Manager removes it
[08:52] <[reed]> root@jarodplus:~# apt-get install icedtea-gcjwebplugin
[08:52] <[reed]> Reading package lists... Done
[08:52] <[reed]> Building dependency tree
[08:52] <[reed]> Reading state information... Done
[08:52] <[reed]> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[08:52] <[reed]> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[08:52] <[reed]> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[08:52] <[reed]> or been moved out of Incoming.
[08:53] <[reed]> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[08:53] <[reed]> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[08:53] <[reed]> that package should be filed.
[08:53] <[reed]> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[08:53] <[reed]> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:53] <[reed]>   icedtea-gcjwebplugin: Depends: openjdk-6-jre (>= 6b06) but it is not going to be installed
[08:53] <[reed]> E: Broken packages
[08:53] <[reed]> sorry, should have used pastebin
[08:53] <asac> [reed]: no problem :-P
[08:54] <asac> [reed]: afaict, partial upgrades are only offered in transitional situations
[08:54] <[reed]> well, it told me a partial upgrade was needed
[08:54] <[reed]> dunno
[08:54] <asac> [reed]: how did it tell you?
[08:54] <[reed]> dialog from Update Manager
[08:54] <[reed]> saying I needed to do a Partial Upgrade
[08:55] <asac> so you hit "check" ... and then it offered you to partially upgrade?
[08:55] <[reed]> yes
[08:55] <asac> [reed]: are you running hardy-proposed?
[08:56] <[reed]> well, I didn't hit check... when I clicked the icon in the notification icon space, it brought it up, did some stuff, and then asked me
[08:56] <[reed]> no
[08:56] <[reed]> just hardy
[09:02] <asac> [reed]: and what happens if you try to install openjdk-6-jre ?
[09:03] <asac> doesnt install ... or is version lower than 6b06?
[09:03] <[reed]> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:03] <[reed]>   openjdk-6-jre: Depends: openjdk-6-jre-headless (= 6b09-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed
[09:03] <[reed]> E: Broken packages
[09:03] <asac> [reed]: go further down :)
[09:04] <asac> e.g. why is openjdk-6-jre-headless not installed
[09:04] <asac> and why that and so on
[09:04] <[reed]> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:04] <[reed]>   openjdk-6-jre-headless: Depends: tzdata-java but it is not going to be installed
[09:04] <[reed]> E: Broken packages
[09:04] <[reed]> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:04] <[reed]>   tzdata-java: Depends: tzdata (= 2008b-1ubuntu1) but 2008c-1ubuntu0.8.04 is to be installed
[09:04] <[reed]> E: Broken packages
[09:04] <[reed]> tzdata update broke it
[09:04] <[reed]> :)
[09:04] <asac> argh
[09:05] <asac> [reed]: ok i am pinging pitti about that
[09:05] <[reed]> k... if a bug gets filed, subscribe me?
[09:24] <[reed]> asac: you have your flight booked for Whistler?
[09:24] <asac> [reed]: yeah
[09:24] <[reed]> good :)
[09:25] <[reed]> hmm, I'm in MV next week
[09:25] <asac> point of no return passed ;)
[09:29] <gnomefreak> Tbird wont load your message to mailing list
[09:29]  * gnomefreak goes for smoke  while it tries so far 3 minutes
[09:29] <gnomefreak> ah here it is
[09:31] <asac> [reed]: ok, so what should i document as our preferred "wishlist" procedure.
[09:31] <asac> until now i said:
[09:32] <asac> go to forums.mozillazine.org and if you get cheers there, file an enhancement bug in bugzilla.mozilla.org
[09:32] <asac> is that ok?
[09:32] <[reed]> mmm
[09:33] <asac> wishlist bugs are special, because most are actually "valid", but most wont be allowed into firefox
[09:33] <[reed]> so evil to send users to the forums
[09:33] <[reed]> :P
[09:33] <asac> so i cannot really fiter here
[09:33] <asac> filter
[09:33] <[reed]> let me see what other people think
[09:33] <asac> [reed]: well ... i dont feel in the position to say "no, this wont happen"
[09:33] <asac> but i dont want to send them directly to bugzilla
[09:33] <asac> so i always thought i send them to the instructions on "how to lobby for new features"
[09:33] <asac> in the forums ;)
[09:39] <[reed]> there's Hendrix, but I don't know if that's a good place to send people for RFEs
[09:40] <[reed]> (http://feedback.mozilla.org)
[09:40] <gnomefreak> asac: i CC'ed you to my emails with the author of the Tiny URL extension
[09:41] <asac> [reed]: ok, why not sending them to the "MozillaZine Forum Index ->  Firefox Features   " forum? what is so bad about it?
[09:41] <[reed]> the forums have a ... reputation
[09:42] <[reed]> plus they are all unofficial
[09:42] <[reed]> Mozilla doesn't control mozillaZine
[09:42] <asac> [reed]: well ;) ... question is "do you want to hear about them" ... or "are you happy if they sink in the forums" :)
[09:42] <[reed]> need some happy medium
[09:42] <[reed]> :(
[09:43] <asac> [reed]: the other option we have is to send them to brainstrom.ubuntu.com ... but wanted to do that only for ubuntu specific feature requests
[09:43] <[reed]> oh, we're adding our own brainstorm-like tool soon
[09:43] <asac> we could integrate that in launchpad bug system at some point, like: make a brainstorm idea out of this bug
[09:43] <asac> [reed]: in the long run we could also add a feature that would create an idea in your idea database
[09:44] <asac> [reed]: ok, then lets say that i stick to the mozillazine answer and change that procedure once you have your own idea database?
[09:44] <asac> sounds reasonable?
[09:44] <[reed]> ok
[09:45] <asac> or do you want me to send them to bugzilla asking them to carefully look out for dupes?
[09:46] <asac> [reed]: when do you leave for MV?
[09:46] <[reed]> Monday
[09:46] <[reed]> there from Monday->Monday
[10:05] <asac> [reed]: so is this 3.0.0 ?
[10:05] <[reed]> 3.0
[10:05] <[reed]> everything after this is 3.0.x
[10:06] <asac> but you will certainly start with 3.0.1 ;)
[10:06] <[reed]> correct
[10:26] <gnomefreak> is LP slow for anyone else?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> anyone using tbird with IMAP?
[10:59] <gnomefreak> asac: take a look at bug 51492 please as you are most qulified
[11:00] <gnomefreak> TB and IMAP seeem to have a few issues here but nothing like crashing ect..
[11:29] <gnomefreak> asac: are we telling users to use report a site problem for not able to log in to site, cant access parts of site, ect.... refering to bug 228864 im not sure how Firefox not saving info has to do with sites you cant login to
[11:32] <asac> fta: wanna fix devhelp build?
[11:32] <asac> :)
[11:32] <asac> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15160556/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.devhelp_0.19-1ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[11:34] <asac> gnomefreak: if its a website rendering issue or disfunction we do that yes.
[11:34] <asac> that is if it works elsewhere
[11:40] <gnomefreak> ok i have to grab upstream ff
[11:42] <gnomefreak> asac: im testing bug 238660 in a few
[11:43] <gnomefreak> with rc2
[11:43] <gnomefreak> if you need me to test on rc1 upstream let me know
[11:43] <asac> gnomefreak: yes. thats already confirmed
[11:43] <gnomefreak> asac: you asked for upstream tests
[11:43] <asac> yeah
[11:44] <asac> does it happen there too?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> RC2 ok to test with?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> im downloading RC2 atm
[11:46] <asac> yeah
[11:49] <gnomefreak> yep happens with upstream RC2
[11:49] <gnomefreak> i will search for one upstream
[11:59] <gnomefreak> alot of about:plugins being broken
[12:00] <asac> gnomefreak: well ... there are two behaviours: getting a dialog that the url is invalid would be ok. (a you get when you type about:blah)
[12:00] <asac> but getting to a non existant page is not
[12:00] <gnomefreak> well so far nothing even close to our bug
[12:02] <gnomefreak> anyone with Ffox-2?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> think i found a lightning bug i was looking at earlier
[12:21] <gnomefreak> asac: that bug is taken care of i reported it upstream after not finding one
[12:21] <gnomefreak> please add to mozilla 438313 if you wish
[12:21] <asac> gnomefreak: ok, did you post the step by step instructions?
[12:22] <asac> gnomefreak: never file a bug in General
[12:22] <asac> use a better component
[12:22] <gnomefreak> yes type about:about
[12:22] <asac> otherwise nobody will really look at it
[12:22] <asac> its like filing a bug against "ubuntu" :)
[12:22] <gnomefreak> i didnt know what it fit under
[12:22] <asac> yeah.
[12:22] <asac> gnomefreak: why didnt you find it?
[12:22] <asac> it should show up if you just search for about:about
[12:23] <gnomefreak> about:about showed me nothing
[12:23] <gnomefreak> so i looked under about
[12:23] <gnomefreak> very long list btw
[12:23] <asac> gnomefreak: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/query.cgi
[12:23] <asac> search for about:about there
[12:23] <asac> like a zillion of dupes already ;)
[12:24] <gnomefreak> i searched from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
[12:24] <asac> gnomefreak: update the bug link in the LP bug ;)
[12:24] <asac> thanks
[12:24] <asac> gnomefreak: use that form + the advanced search form (the one i posted)
[12:24] <gnomefreak> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&product=&content=about%3Aabout
[12:24] <gnomefreak> nothing found
[12:24] <gnomefreak> well 1
[12:24] <asac> gnomefreak: yeah
[12:24] <asac> thats the right bug ;)
[12:24] <asac> hehe
[12:25] <asac> anyway. next time ;)
[12:25] <gnomefreak> yep same
[12:25] <asac> bugzilla needs excersize for sure
[12:25] <gnomefreak> i cant mark dupes upstream can you do that?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> mozilla bug 349451
[12:25] <gnomefreak> its also under general
[12:26] <gnomefreak> i got it
[12:27] <gnomefreak> you did it already
[12:27] <gnomefreak> no it seems carsten did it already
[12:28] <asac> k
[12:29] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: *prod*
[12:29] <gnomefreak> Seeker`: mootbot does minutes?
[12:29] <Seeker`> yup
[12:30] <gnomefreak> can we borrow it on the 22nd for our meeting and teach one or more of us how to use it for minutes :)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> asac: ok alll bugs updated and dupped aas needed
[12:31] <asac> whoever knows mootbot best is supposed to take the meeting chair i guess ;)
[12:31] <asac> all bugs? :-D
[12:31] <asac> that would be fantastic
[12:31] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: sure
[12:31]  * gnomefreak never really got the hang of it
[12:31] <asac> but i know what you ment ;)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> asac: all bugs releated to about:about
[12:32] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> i would love for someone to test on 2.0
[12:32] <Seeker`> you can have a play if you want
[12:32] <gnomefreak> just to see if it has always been that way or if its due to xulrunner1.9
[12:32] <asac> Seeker`: can we use mootbot to also record actions if we dont have a meeting?
[12:32] <asac> (e.g. mozillateam actions :))
[12:32] <gnomefreak> do you have instructions on how to use it Seeker`
[12:33] <Seeker`> sadly the minutes wont be available in real time - someone has to copy tyhem to a webserver
[12:33] <gnomefreak> be back in a minute for smoke
[12:34] <Seeker`> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScribesTeam/MootBot?highlight=(mootbot)
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Seeker`: #endmeeting will produce link for minutes so we can just move it to our minutes page?
[12:41] <Seeker`> gnomefreak: at the moment, it will not produce a link to the minutes
[12:41] <Seeker`> as the bot is hosted inside someones network with no external access; they have t ocopy the logs to their webhost
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Seeker`: how do i retrieve them so i can post them
[12:42] <gnomefreak> so just copy the meeting itself?
[12:42] <Seeker`> I'm not sure if this has been set up properly, I will check today
[12:42] <Seeker`> mootbot also produces a summary html page, with just the things you tagged on it, which you will need to get from the webhost
[12:43] <gnomefreak> by tagged you mean like #vote or #bleh
[12:46] <gnomefreak> The summary and log will be placed on the agenda you gave a link for. An email will be sent when log and summary have been posted to the page.  << does that stil happen?
[12:46] <Seeker`> no
[12:48] <gnomefreak> ah ok because it will list a link for the server that you arnt using
[12:48] <Seeker`> the whole page needs updating really
[12:48] <Seeker`> there have been problems with the bots hosting, which has elad it to be shunted around etc.
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ah
[12:51] <Seeker`> I've spent the last 9 months trying to finish my degree, so i;ve only been able to do basic maintainance
[12:51] <gnomefreak> its only 7:51 :(
[12:52] <Seeker`> huh?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> be back soon need to find what im making for dinner
[12:52] <gnomefreak> its only 7:51am it feels like ive been online for the whole day
[12:53] <Seeker`> :/ Its 12:52 here and i've only been up for 30 mins
[13:01] <gnomefreak> ok i need to feed g/f while she feeds baby ill be back in a while
[13:03] <gnomefreak> asac: im gonna backport pulseaudio package and libasound2-plugins but i have a bad feeling about gutsys versions being ok with intrepids versions but i will try these 2 to start with and if it needs alot more work than we will have to come up with something else, i would rather not backport 20 packages if we can help it. but i will ping you later about that
[13:04] <asac> gnomefreak: dont backport pulseaudio
[13:04] <gnomefreak> have to for flash
[13:04] <asac> rather cherry-pick the required changed from libasound2-plugins if it doesnt build
[13:04] <gnomefreak> libasound needs libpulse0 and libpulse0 is in pulseaudio source
[13:06] <gnomefreak> so i have to build those 2 packages to start please see my PPA as this has been done for Hardy already, https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/+archive  i need someone to cherrypick the PA packages and see if that is all needed for flash10
[13:07] <gnomefreak> but we can talk about this whne im done with g/f and daughter
[14:06] <asac> ok all RC2 final bits uploaded everywhere
[14:06] <asac> will blog about it when things have build in -proposed
[14:10] <asac> fta_: would appreciate if you could review the .hardy branch and see if i missed any essential cherry-picks
[14:10] <asac> thanks
[14:10] <asac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/xulrunner/xulrunner-1.9.hardy
[14:10] <asac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-3.0.hardy
[14:11] <asac> well ... ffox 3 is safe thing
[14:11] <asac> xul 1.9 is the question here
[15:00] <asac> Hush, David, you'll be accused of making noise.
[15:00] <asac> :)
[15:20]  * armin76 looks
[15:21] <armin76> :/
[15:21] <armin76> asac: did xul-1.9 got released?
[15:22] <asac> armin76: to where?
[15:22] <armin76> by mozilla?
[15:22] <asac> no
[15:22] <asac> i uploaded rc2 to our beta-testing channels: intrepid, hardy-proposed + mozillateam PPA
[15:22] <armin76> then why did you? :P
[15:23] <asac> i didnt ... just beta channels ;)
[15:23] <armin76> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/xulrunner-1.9/1.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu1
[15:23] <armin76> shouldn't it be 1.9rc2?
[15:24] <asac> well ... rc's are ment to be final releases if nothing happens. i dont want to reupload a not-modified build.
[15:24] <asac> so the best projection we have for close to final rc's that might get out unmodified is to upload them with the final package name
[15:25] <armin76> well, lets hope ppl don't get confused thinking that 1.9/3.0 got released...
[15:25] <armin76> Existing Tags:
[15:25] <armin76>         FIREFOX_3_0rc3_RELEASE          (revision: 1.404)
[15:25] <armin76> lol, you got pwned :P
[15:25] <asac> armin76: thats for mac afaik
[15:28] <armin76> oh
[15:28] <armin76> now that you mention it, i need to redo my patch for hppa
[15:28] <armin76> thanks :P
[15:32] <asac> armin76: we need to update it?
[15:32] <asac> give it to me so i can reupload
[15:33] <asac> bug 237690
[15:37] <armin76> yeah
[15:37] <armin76> need to redo it, using case statemnt
[15:37] <armin76> statement
[17:43] <armin76> [reed]: ping
[17:43] <[reed]> armin76: pong
[17:44] <armin76> [reed]: i need to request approval for mozilla bug 436133?
[17:45] <[reed]> not for landing on mozilla-central, no
[17:45] <[reed]> add checkin-needed
[17:45] <armin76> k, thanks
[17:51] <shirish> armin76: the firefox updates we are seeing atm are ff3b2 updates?
[17:53] <asac> shirish: rc2
[17:54] <asac> yes
[17:54] <asac> i reuploaded with a modified changelog to intrepid to make this clear.
[17:56] <shirish> sorry, yes I meant rc2, didn't sleep I guess ;)
[17:59] <armin76> asac: new patch added
[17:59] <armin76> asac: and btw, hppa compiled
[18:00] <asac> armin76: with the patch we added? great.
[18:01] <armin76> yup
[18:02] <asac> armin76: http://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=xulrunner
[18:02] <asac> did debian take this patch yet?
[18:02] <asac> or was there duped effort?
[18:03] <asac> hmm ... hppa didn't build
[18:03] <asac> (yet?)
[18:05] <armin76> asac: they already ignored -Wcast-align
[18:06] <asac> oh. hmm so now .pc files are bogus?
[18:06] <asac> aeh sorry
[18:06] <asac> was confused
[18:06] <armin76> you always are :P
[18:19]  * asac reboot gateway
[18:19] <l3on> Hi all, I've this rendering problem with firefox in hardy 64bit:
[18:19] <l3on> http://img397.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ubuntufirefoxap4.png
[18:20] <l3on> but page sould be showned in this way -> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Documentazione/Indice
[18:21] <l3on> I've tried to remove .mozilla directory, reinstall firefox-3.0, but problem is not solved :/
[18:22] <l3on> Hi asac :)
[18:22] <asac> hi l3on
[18:23] <asac> ok ill be out for a while
[18:23] <l3on> Btw, I've test page on a 32bit system (Hardy too) and page was showned right :(
[18:23] <asac> 1-2 h
[18:24] <l3on> bye :)
[18:24] <asac> l3on: if page is somewhat corrupted i would guess that its a xorg driver bug
[18:26] <l3on> mmm... but it happens only in firefox, for example page is showned right in konqueror
[18:28] <l3on> epiphany is broken too :/
[19:15] <asac> l3on: what graphics driver?
[19:15] <l3on> mesa
[19:15] <l3on> ati
[19:16] <l3on> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 TCL
[19:18] <asac> EXA or XAA ?
[19:19] <l3on> how can I discory it ?
[19:19] <l3on> *discovery
[19:20] <l3on> asac: Option     "AccelMethod"                "EXA"
[19:22] <asac> l3on: try XAA
[19:25] <l3on> wtf? now works fine!!!
[19:25] <l3on> asac: I'm indebted to you for a beer
[19:25] <l3on> :D
[19:30] <asac> l3on: hehe ... help doing bug triage would be even more appreciated ;)
[19:31] <fta> hi
[19:31] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/debdiff/liferea_1.4.15-1ubuntu1--1.4.15-1ubuntu2.debdiff
[19:31] <fta> asac, would you sponsor it or should i ask someone else ?
[19:32] <asac> fta: wasnt a similar patch uploaded?
[19:32] <asac> ah
[19:32] <asac> no you alrewady showed me this ;)
[19:32] <asac> now i remember
[19:32] <asac> bug 228827
[19:33] <asac> fta: dont we have bugs for the issues?
[19:33] <asac> if we ever want to take those patches down we should have a bug for the fixes
[19:35] <fta> i don't think we have bugs for those, i've looked even upstream of the dock tray one, nada. the other is just ours
[19:35] <asac> fta: give me a bug and i can document it for you in that upload
[19:35] <asac> fta: ok, we definitly want a bug for this ... and then forward upstrewam
[19:35] <asac> at least for the feature fix
[19:35] <asac> otherwise it wont go upstream and would be a good contribution imo
[19:37] <asac> fta: i can open the bug if you want :)
[19:38] <asac> fta: i jumped the gun and opened bug 238958
[19:40] <fta> ok, thanks
[19:43] <armin76> ubuntu is broken!
[19:43] <armin76> Setting up mawk (1.3.3-11.1ubuntu1) ...
[19:43] <armin76> /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Locale/gettext/gettext.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Tstack_sp_ptr
[19:43] <armin76>  <- fail
[19:44] <asac> fta: uploaded
[19:44] <fta> thx
[19:44] <asac> fta: please take care that the patch goes upstream ... maybe ask pocho who previsouly submitted things upstream
[19:44] <asac> i attached the patch to bug
[19:44] <fta> I'll ping pochu
[19:45] <jcastro> fta: about to mail the flock guys
[19:45] <jcastro> it's not in the mozillateam ppa yet is it?
[19:45] <fta> nope, it's in mine at the moment
[19:45] <jcastro> ok
[19:45] <fta> jcastro,  ^^, both hardy and intrepid
[19:46] <fta> I need to fix the branding
[19:46] <jcastro> so how does that workflow work, do you put stuff in your ppa then when it's ready move it to the team ppa?
[19:46] <asac> jcastro: when its ready yes. but flock needs to use system-xul first ;)
[19:47] <armin76> asac: fix
[19:47] <asac> jcastro: well ... mozillateam ppa is not always used. things that are new can go directly to intrepid for instance
[19:47] <jcastro> ok
[19:47] <fta> asac, will be difficult.. they patched firefox, it's not built on top of xul but on top of firefox
[19:47] <jcastro> asac: yeah I just want to make sure I show them where it is for now
[19:47] <asac> sure
[19:47] <jcastro> fta: do you have the svn url for their trunk handy? I'd like to get an import going
[19:48] <asac> fta: if they patch firefox, but not xurlunner, we can still build it with system-xul i guess
[19:48] <jcastro> asac: fta: If you guys can note down a list of issues with them like we did for songbird I can send those up
[19:48] <jcastro> in the meantime I'll just introduce ourselves and say hello
[19:49] <fta> ok, i'll draft something on the wiki like i did for songbird
[19:50] <fta> jcastro, svn://svn-mirror.flock.com/master/flock/trunk/mozilla
[19:50] <jcastro> thanks
[19:52] <asac> jcastro: err, if thats a complete copy of the mozilla tree, we probably dont want to sync that for now :/
[19:53] <jcastro> asac: it'll sit in testing for a few weeks or so
[19:53] <jcastro> asac: I've been instructed to import as many things as possible by lp people
[19:53] <jcastro> so ....
[19:53] <jcastro> win 16
[19:54] <asac> ok. still has to make sense ;) ... but go ahead!
[19:54] <fta> asac, a diffstat between rc2 and flock source trees: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19114/
[19:56] <fta> i mean full firefox rc2 tree
[19:58] <asac> fta: are those netto-changes or is there garbage because flock has rc1 or b5 or some nightly trunk snapshot included?
[20:19] <fta> i guess a bit of both. i'm trying to find which ff they are using..
[20:19] <asac> fta: do they strip CVS directories?
[20:20] <fta> hm, there are some leftovers
[20:20] <fta> Jazzva, https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/liferea/1.4.15-1ubuntu2
[20:21] <Jazzva> Cool :). It got in fast. Now, I could check the teatime patch, and see what to change.
[20:22] <fta> asac, why did you drop rc2 in intrepid ? is it released ?
[20:22] <asac> no
[20:22] <asac> bwin ;)
[20:22] <fta> ?
[20:22] <asac> google ;)
[20:22] <asac> bet and win ;)
[20:23] <asac> measure to prevent another upload in case rc2 is final
[20:24] <asac> i think it was not the best idea, but if all goes well its fine
[20:27] <asac> bug 238956
[20:27] <asac> anyone can reproduce?
[20:33] <Jazzva> asac: It works ok, but the processor usage goes up to 98, 99% on dragging...
[20:33] <Jazzva> I'll see what happens in ff2
[20:34] <fta> asac, still need help for devscript ?
[20:34] <fta> i mean, devhelp
[20:34] <Jazzva> asac: It's even slower...
[20:36] <fta> hm, ads from freenode admins ?
[20:38] <asac> yeah ... i dont mind, but some find these annoying
[20:39] <asac> Jazzva: ok. thanks
[20:39] <Jazzva> np :)
[20:40] <fta> asac, i've fixed devhelp
[20:51] <armin76> root@hake:~# firefox
[20:51] <armin76> Segmentation fault
[20:51] <armin76> lolz
[20:54] <fta> lsb_release -ic
[21:04] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/debdiff/devhelp_0.19-1ubuntu3--0.19-1ubuntu4.debdiff
[21:37] <fta> mozilla bug 435460
[21:37] <fta> damn, rc3
[21:39] <asac> mac only afaik
[21:39] <fta> yet users will want it
[21:40] <asac> no i doubt they will ;)
[21:40] <fta> so, what about devhelp ?
[21:42] <asac> open a sponsoring bug if possible
[21:50] <fta> asac, bug 238991
[21:51] <fta> oops
[22:46] <fta> asac, flock has been synced with FIREFOX_3_0rc2_RELEASE about 10 days ago
[23:17] <asac> fta: ok so its a netto diff ... fine
[23:17] <asac> fta: can you split browser/ and toolkit/ parts up somehow?
[23:17] <asac> e.g. is it easy to extract some of the more obvious patches manually?
[23:23] <fta> asac, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/flock-browser.patch
[23:26] <fta> http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/flock-toolkit.patch
[23:28] <asac> that url isnt working here
[23:28] <fta> 2nd ?
[23:28] <asac> yes
[23:29] <asac> gedit cannot detect character encoding
[23:29] <asac> not sure whats up here
[23:29] <fta> try with less, it contains png
[23:30] <fta> of filterdiff -x '*/*.png' or something like that
[23:31] <fta> the browser patch is not a problem for us, the toolkit part is
[23:31] <fta> we cannot use that in our xul
[23:35] <asac> fta: a patch with png?
[23:35] <asac> sounds bad
[23:35] <asac> but ok
[23:35] <fta> well, diff -N
[23:35] <fta> i needed new files
[23:35] <fta> ended up with pics in it
[23:37] <asac> yeah. doesnt matter. someone should try to sort the patches that are not browser/ to individual per-issue patches ;)
[23:51] <Sergeant_Pony> I have gig's of empty space on my hd and every time I go to send an email I get an error that it can't copy my email to the sent folder. Anyone know why?
[23:52] <fta> write permissions ? anything in the Error Console ?
[23:52] <Sergeant_Pony> anyone know why TB would be doing this?
[23:53] <Sergeant_Pony> nothing in error console
[23:54] <Jazzva> It might also be that your home partition (if it's separate from root) is full. BTW, Linux doesn't let you use all of your free space, in case you checked free space with system properties. There are two columns, "Free" and "Available". Available is the amount you can use.
[23:54] <Sergeant_Pony> how can I check this?
[23:55] <Jazzva> I usually open System Properties... Click on tab "File systems" and look for the info :)
[23:55] <fta> df
[23:55] <Jazzva> fta's way is easier :)
[23:55] <fta> and df -i too
[23:56] <Sergeant_Pony> I used df -i
[23:57] <Jazzva> Check without "-i" too...
[23:58] <Sergeant_Pony> /dev/sda3            2774400  278179 2496221   11% /   <-- is this what I need to look at?
[23:59] <Jazzva> that's the number of total, used and available inodes. Check without "-i" to see the number of total, used and available space in 1KB blocks.