/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/06/10/#ubuntu-mythtv.txt

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HunterSThompsonI just got digital cable and I'm trying to set up lirc to use the cable box's remote...I downloaded and untarred dct2000serial.tar.gz...but now I haven't a clue as to what I should do00:25
rhpot1991_laptopbah, why wont ntp run on this box00:52
HunterSThompsoneven an explanation of what goes where in this LIRC setup in Mythbuntu Control Centre would be helpful01:02
rhpot1991_laptopHunterSThompson: go look at the lirc howto's for past versions of ubuntu on wiki.ubuntu.com01:03
rhpot1991_laptopall that info is in there01:03
HunterSThompsonI've read through one or two of them...I must have missed it01:04
rhpot1991_laptop /etc/lirc/ has a lot of files01:05
rhpot1991_laptopand ~.mythtv and ~.lircrc01:05
HunterSThompsonI still don't see anything about what to do with crcgen.py and changechannel.py01:25
rhpot1991_laptopI've never used any sort of IR blaster or channel changer, sorry01:28
HunterSThompsonme either01:40
will01anyone know how to get irkick to work with gnome applications?02:20
tgm4883_laptopHunterSThompson, pastebin whats in crcgen.py02:25
HunterSThompsonhow do I copy that from nano?02:40
HunterSThompsonnevermind that02:42
HunterSThompsonhttp://pastebin.com/d581afa402:44
tgm4883_laptopHunterSThompson, I'm not sure what crcgen.py does, where did you get it from03:52
tgm4883_laptopthe other one should go into mythtv-setup though03:52
HunterSThompsonhelp04:10
HunterSThompsonoops04:10
HunterSThompsonummm04:10
HunterSThompsonI got them from dct2000serial.tar.gz04:11
tony_i'm getting "No UPnP backends found". anyone know how to completely reset my mythtv and mysql passwords. i'm so lost at this point i lost track of the passwords04:39
superm1tony_, they're stored in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt04:42
superm1so you wouldn't need to typically04:42
tony_i get that error first and then "cannot login to database". thanks, i'll check that04:44
superm1you can remove any user set passwords then by removing ~/.mythtv04:44
superm1and trying again04:44
superm1it regenerates the directory when you start myth04:44
superm1and as of hardy makes symlinks into /etc/mythtv04:45
superm1so that you dont create user specific passwords by accident04:45
tony_so it's okay just to delete they whole ~/.mythtv folder?04:45
superm1yeah04:45
superm1its just a cache04:45
superm1all the stuff is stored in mysql04:45
superm1and it will regenerate the cache on first start04:46
tony_same error, maybe i should reconfigure mythtv? or mysql?04:47
superm1well how did you get into this conundrum in the first place04:49
superm1did you set a root mysql password?04:50
superm1and then got all these errors during install04:50
superm1or did you misenter something04:50
superm1or reconfigure something04:50
tony_i think i just lose track of my passwords. one password was shamefully, "root" and it wasn't the root password, lol, so i'm lost now04:51
tony_trying mythtv-setup now04:51
superm1so things were working at one point?04:51
tony_no, not successful yet04:51
superm1okay so there is a good chance that something wrong got entered during installation then04:52
superm1so the best bet is to follow this order of reconfiguration:04:52
tony_i thought there was a way to reconfigure mysql04:52
superm11) dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.004:52
superm1enter a new root mysql password04:52
superm12) reconfigure mythtv-database.  enter that new root password you put in for mysql04:52
superm13) reconfigure mythtv-common.  make sure that you are pointed to localhost, but dont change user and pass04:52
superm14) remove ~/.mythtv again and try again04:53
superm1that should do the trick04:53
tony_mysql admin account name? i changed to mythtv, should i change back to mythconverg?04:54
superm1the admin user is typically root04:55
superm1for mysql04:55
superm1the database is mythconverg04:55
superm1typically04:55
superm1the normal mythtv user is typically mythtv )for mysql(04:55
tony_same problems. this is why i fear mythtv on every install. out of 10, i've probably only got it running great once and not sure how i done it04:58
tony_also get this error after restarting "No /usr/bin/mythbackend found running; none killed", not sure the relevance05:01
superm1this is why we created mythbuntu... so you could just install directly without running into problems related to configuration05:13
tony_but mythbuntu doesn't easily allow you to use apps, correct?05:15
tony_i need a desktop in the same system05:16
superm1well for cases that you still want a desktop, that's why there is installing this stuff from mythbuntu-control-centre. it abstracts a lot of the configuration stuff05:21
tony_so i can install the control center and should be easier to config with no probs?05:29
superm1if you wipe all your myth* packages05:32
superm1and mysql server packages05:32
superm1eg purge those packages05:32
superm1(or completely remove them from synaptic)05:32
superm1and then install the control centre that should resolve issues05:32
tony_so what exactly should i purge? i tried to purge mysql* and it asked if wanted to remove a lot of other kde4 stuff05:37
superm1mysql-server-*05:38
superm1mysql-server*05:38
superm1better yet05:38
superm1and mythtv*05:38
tony_thanks, i'll give it a shot05:42
ChrisC35hi07:04
ChrisC35in the install, how do I know what nvidia driver to use? I have a Radeon 9700 pro with svideo out, etc. the choices are nvidia 2-4, 5+ ?07:05
superm1so you dont want to use nvidia drivers then :)07:05
ChrisC35why not07:05
superm1you dont have an nvidia card07:05
ChrisC35ah yes right07:05
superm1radeon 9700 is an ati card07:05
ChrisC35ati07:05
ChrisC35should i pick default open source driver?07:06
superm1well you can try it07:06
superm1if it doesnt work well for your needs, you can switch to the proprietary AMD driver instead07:06
ChrisC35will it allow me to use the svideo out to my tv?07:07
superm1i'm not sure tbh.  it does for some AMD cards07:07
superm1but not all07:07
ChrisC35amd cards?07:08
ChrisC35whats that07:08
superm1AMD bought ATI07:08
ChrisC35oh07:08
ChrisC35so i should use the amd driver shouldnt i?07:08
superm1well it's up to you07:08
superm1you can switch back to the open source if you dont like the closed source07:09
superm1or to the closed source if you dont like the open source07:09
ChrisC35what is the difference?07:09
superm1the closed source supports more features on the card generally07:09
superm1but you are at AMD's whim then regarding support.  if the open source has a bug, you can file it and then get community based support07:10
superm1when i say features, i mean stuff like low power modes, better graphics acceleration in some cases, textured video on some cards07:10
ChrisC35ic07:10
superm1you are probably best trying the open source oe07:11
superm1and if you dont like how its working07:11
ChrisC35all i need is to watch tv07:11
superm1or it doesnt cut it, doesnt do svid07:11
superm1or something like that07:11
superm1then try the closed one07:11
ChrisC35wont be playing games07:11
superm1it's easy enough to turn on post install07:11
ChrisC35what is svid?07:11
ChrisC35oh svideo out07:11
ChrisC35ok07:11
ChrisC35i'll try open first then, thanks07:11
ChrisC35actually i chose amd, cause with open it disables tvout. I was able to choose svideo07:14
ChrisC35it seems to hang on 5% though. It displays the HD as scsi ata - but its an ide drive. Is that normal?07:14
superm1the open driver may support it without any configuration options07:14
superm1that's why that section was greyed out07:14
superm1it is formatting the drive at about that time usually07:15
ChrisC35how long does it take to format a 250 gb drive?07:15
ChrisC35and why would it show it as scsi07:16
foxbuntuChrisC35, SATA is SCSI07:16
ChrisC35ya but i have an ide drive07:17
superm1everything goes through the scsi subsystem driver now on kernel 2.6.2407:17
ChrisC35ok07:17
superm1its a common driver between the drives now07:17
ChrisC35its taking a LOOONG time at 5%07:17
superm1is the activity light flickering?07:18
ChrisC35its saying creating ext3 file system07:18
foxbuntusuperm1, thats really odd that they are using a scsi driver as a common ground now for all drives07:18
ChrisC35dont see light flickering07:18
ChrisC35mouse still works though07:19
superm1ChrisC35, well if you suspect that something might have frozen/locked up during install, you can check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/installer/debug07:20
superm1open a terminal from the applications menu and you can look at those logs07:20
ChrisC35from the opening install screen, with all the options?07:25
superm1while the installer is running through it's little progress window07:27
ChrisC35how do i get the terminal window then?07:34
ChrisC35theres a little dialog with the progress bar07:34
ChrisC35its still on 5%07:34
ChrisC35for about 20 mins07:34
ChrisC35thres nothing else on the screen besides the dialog07:35
superm1ChrisC35, click the applications menu at the top left07:40
superm1and open the terminal from taht07:40
ChrisC35top left of what, the dialog?07:58
ChrisC35there is nothing else on the screen besides the progress bar dialog07:58
ChrisC35and on the dialog, there is no applications menu07:59
superm1oh you just picked "install"07:59
superm1rather than live mode07:59
superm1if you boot into live mode07:59
superm1you can still do a regular install08:00
superm1but you'll have the ability to debug these sorts of problems08:00
superm1although it hanging at this point is rather unassuring.  you might make sure your drive is wiped before you start install08:00
superm1this part of the installer doesn't differ from the normal ubuntu installation process, so it's surprising to see problems there08:00
ChrisC35hmm the drive is brand new08:01
ChrisC35although it was droppped 2.5 feet onto a carpeted floor by my son08:01
superm1yeah well restart into live mode08:02
superm1give things a run from there08:02
superm1you'll be able to see a lot better if there are errors coming up08:02
ChrisC35ok08:02
superm1and if for some reason it being dropped did cause problems, you'll see those in the logs08:02
superm1or at least in the output of the 'dmesg' command08:02
ChrisC35gunna log on here from my laptop08:03
superm1well i'm gonna hit the sack actually,best of luck.  if you dont sort things out, l i'll see you again tomorrow :)08:04
ChrisC35ok thanks08:05
ChrisC36hi08:08
ChrisC36I can never get past the 5% at install, where it is partition formatting08:34
ChrisC36is there an error console?08:34
ChrisC36also is there a util on the live cd for formatting the drive?08:34
haffemke2fs -j should format the drive08:38
ChrisC36k08:40
ChrisC36is there a way to test the drive to make sure it is working right?08:45
ChrisC36its brand new, but it was dropped08:45
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haffeOk. I think I've gotten most of mythtv to work. However I have some issues left that I would like som help with.09:37
haffeI have a remote, I wish the power button on the remote to put the system in hibernate and wake the system from hibernate. Is this possible?09:38
ChrisC36hi - about this schedules direct with its fee - is there a free way? on other pvr software i've used in windows, the tv schedule is there and free09:57
hadsI'm sure you could scrape web pages if you wanted to.10:01
ChrisC36what do you mean10:01
ChrisC36is that the only option for tv schedule data setup in mythtv?10:02
hadsI have no idea, here we get data from the DVB stream. I'd guess schedules direct is probably your best option in the US.10:03
ChrisC36i'min10:05
ChrisC36I'm in Canada10:05
ChrisC36my pvr on windows has all the scheduling for free10:05
hadsOK10:05
ChrisC36is there a configuration for it , is what i'm asking, in mythtv?10:06
hadsI have no idea. I'm don't know anything about the setup in Canada.10:07
ChrisC36what is scraping?10:08
hadsI wouldn't have thought that $20/year was that bad anyway.10:09
hadshttp://www.google.com/search?q=scraping10:09
ChrisC36its not bad, but free is better10:10
ChrisC36do you always give your money out so easilly?10:10
waxhead_hey everyone...11:20
waxhead_should a Nvidia GeForce 8600GT with 512meg do the job for HD TV?11:20
hadsThat would depend what you mean by HD.11:25
hadsIf it's MPEG2 based then yes it should be fine with a decent CPU.11:26
waxhead_hads: thanks http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/8800GTs/hdplayback.php11:40
waxhead_hads: thanks http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/8800GTs/hdplayback.php11:40
waxhead_going to get a 880011:40
famicom_meh11:52
famicom_its all fucked11:52
mib_t4532b6zhelo to everybody11:57
haffeWe could always hope for mplayer compiled with CUDA.11:58
haffeI think that would help HD-decoding a lot.11:58
mib_t4532b6zi'm trying start using mythtv11:59
mib_t4532b6zon linux mce11:59
mib_t4532b6zbut i'm new on this11:59
mib_t4532b6zI'm felling some difficults how to start12:00
waxhead_famicom_: bit cynical... :)12:00
mib_t4532b6zcan someone help me?12:01
haffeWhat is your problem?12:01
waxhead_mib_t4532b6z: just as the question12:01
mib_t4532b6zi'm config the LinuxMce, I alreadt config, the DVD, Pictures, Lights and Shutters Controls12:03
mib_t4532b6znow is the TV12:03
mib_t4532b6zbut exist a lot of informatiion about the MythTV12:03
mib_t4532b6zI'm a little confused12:04
mib_t4532b6z:)~12:04
mib_t4532b6zI have a TV tuner, ASUS My Cinema - P7131 HYBRID, and want to start using12:05
haffeStart by configuring a capture card.12:05
mib_t4532b6zthat is my problem! :)12:05
mib_t4532b6zit is necessary install any driver, or library?12:05
haffeNo shouldn't be.12:06
mib_t4532b6zexist some tutorial?12:06
mib_t4532b6zhe doesn't detected automatically12:08
mib_t4532b6zI have to config manually12:08
waxhead_mib_t4532b6z: is the TV card supported?12:10
waxhead_it's what I'm learning in general.. go with the hardware that is supported..12:10
mib_t4532b6zI think the answer is yes, but I already have this card12:16
mib_t4532b6zI do not have choice12:17
mib_t4532b6z:)12:17
mib_t4532b6zwhere can i find a good tutotrial?12:26
mib_t4532b6zto learn how to config this?12:26
waxhead_mib_t4532b6z: I'm going the easy way, but it's going to cost, I'm getting a new tuner card and video card..12:51
waxhead_mib_t4532b6z: just simpler in the end.12:51
* famicom_ is now playing: Against Me! - Walking Is Still Honest13:06
Pasteurizedhi all14:11
mib_t4532b6zwaxhead_:humm, i want to try using this one14:11
mib_t4532b6zhello14:11
PasteurizedDo I only need to add settings to .lirc/mythtv to have all key of my Microsoft MCE keyboard working ?14:12
Pasteurizedor is it more tricky ?14:12
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ChrisC36does mythtv not work with the wintv-hvr-1600? i cant get it to recognize it , it seems17:52
ficoficoficoI guys, I have a problem installing mythtv...... my ip it's not 127.0.0.1, I receive No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP.19:30
ficoficoficothere's no one?19:32
lagaficoficofico: can you be a bit more specific?19:36
ficoficoficoyes19:37
ficoficoficoI've installed mysql and all work fine19:38
ficoficoficoI'm using this guide19:38
ficoficoficohttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV19:38
ficoficoficowhen I do "ps axwwww | grep myth"19:39
ficoficoficoI have to see this 2 lines19:39
ficoficofico23822 ?        Ssl    1:33 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose important,general --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log19:39
ficoficofico24808 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep --colour=auto myth19:39
ficoficoficobut I'm not able to see the first19:39
lagaum19:40
ficoficoficowith this command19:40
ficoficoficotail /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log19:40
lagathe name of this channel is #ubuntu-mythtv. the URL of the guide contains "gentoo"19:40
lagado you see a pattern there? ;)19:40
ficoficoficook I'm on gentoo, but this guide is ok for most distro19:41
ficoficoficoI only want to know19:41
ficoficoficohow can I watch my localhost ip19:41
lagano.19:41
lagago to #mythtv-users or a gentoo specific channel19:42
lagathey're more people there19:42
ficoficoficobut... ok19:42
lagas/they're/there are/19:42
hadsheh Gentoo23:31
lagayeah.23:33
laga:'(23:34

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