[00:25] <HunterSThompson> I just got digital cable and I'm trying to set up lirc to use the cable box's remote...I downloaded and untarred dct2000serial.tar.gz...but now I haven't a clue as to what I should do
[00:52] <rhpot1991_laptop> bah, why wont ntp run on this box
[01:02] <HunterSThompson> even an explanation of what goes where in this LIRC setup in Mythbuntu Control Centre would be helpful
[01:03] <rhpot1991_laptop> HunterSThompson: go look at the lirc howto's for past versions of ubuntu on wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:03] <rhpot1991_laptop> all that info is in there
[01:04] <HunterSThompson> I've read through one or two of them...I must have missed it
[01:05] <rhpot1991_laptop>  /etc/lirc/ has a lot of files
[01:05] <rhpot1991_laptop> and ~.mythtv and ~.lircrc
[01:25] <HunterSThompson> I still don't see anything about what to do with crcgen.py and changechannel.py
[01:28] <rhpot1991_laptop> I've never used any sort of IR blaster or channel changer, sorry
[01:40] <HunterSThompson> me either
[02:20] <will01> anyone know how to get irkick to work with gnome applications?
[02:25] <tgm4883_laptop> HunterSThompson, pastebin whats in crcgen.py
[02:40] <HunterSThompson> how do I copy that from nano?
[02:42] <HunterSThompson> nevermind that
[02:44] <HunterSThompson> http://pastebin.com/d581afa4
[03:52] <tgm4883_laptop> HunterSThompson, I'm not sure what crcgen.py does, where did you get it from
[03:52] <tgm4883_laptop> the other one should go into mythtv-setup though
[04:10] <HunterSThompson> help
[04:10] <HunterSThompson> oops
[04:10] <HunterSThompson> ummm
[04:11] <HunterSThompson> I got them from dct2000serial.tar.gz
[04:39] <tony_> i'm getting "No UPnP backends found". anyone know how to completely reset my mythtv and mysql passwords. i'm so lost at this point i lost track of the passwords
[04:42] <superm1> tony_, they're stored in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt
[04:42] <superm1> so you wouldn't need to typically
[04:44] <tony_> i get that error first and then "cannot login to database". thanks, i'll check that
[04:44] <superm1> you can remove any user set passwords then by removing ~/.mythtv
[04:44] <superm1> and trying again
[04:44] <superm1> it regenerates the directory when you start myth
[04:45] <superm1> and as of hardy makes symlinks into /etc/mythtv
[04:45] <superm1> so that you dont create user specific passwords by accident
[04:45] <tony_> so it's okay just to delete they whole ~/.mythtv folder?
[04:45] <superm1> yeah
[04:45] <superm1> its just a cache
[04:45] <superm1> all the stuff is stored in mysql
[04:46] <superm1> and it will regenerate the cache on first start
[04:47] <tony_> same error, maybe i should reconfigure mythtv? or mysql?
[04:49] <superm1> well how did you get into this conundrum in the first place
[04:50] <superm1> did you set a root mysql password?
[04:50] <superm1> and then got all these errors during install
[04:50] <superm1> or did you misenter something
[04:50] <superm1> or reconfigure something
[04:51] <tony_> i think i just lose track of my passwords. one password was shamefully, "root" and it wasn't the root password, lol, so i'm lost now
[04:51] <tony_> trying mythtv-setup now
[04:51] <superm1> so things were working at one point?
[04:51] <tony_> no, not successful yet
[04:52] <superm1> okay so there is a good chance that something wrong got entered during installation then
[04:52] <superm1> so the best bet is to follow this order of reconfiguration:
[04:52] <tony_> i thought there was a way to reconfigure mysql
[04:52] <superm1> 1) dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[04:52] <superm1> enter a new root mysql password
[04:52] <superm1> 2) reconfigure mythtv-database.  enter that new root password you put in for mysql
[04:52] <superm1> 3) reconfigure mythtv-common.  make sure that you are pointed to localhost, but dont change user and pass
[04:53] <superm1> 4) remove ~/.mythtv again and try again
[04:53] <superm1> that should do the trick
[04:54] <tony_> mysql admin account name? i changed to mythtv, should i change back to mythconverg?
[04:55] <superm1> the admin user is typically root
[04:55] <superm1> for mysql
[04:55] <superm1> the database is mythconverg
[04:55] <superm1> typically
[04:55] <superm1> the normal mythtv user is typically mythtv )for mysql(
[04:58] <tony_> same problems. this is why i fear mythtv on every install. out of 10, i've probably only got it running great once and not sure how i done it
[05:01] <tony_> also get this error after restarting "No /usr/bin/mythbackend found running; none killed", not sure the relevance
[05:13] <superm1> this is why we created mythbuntu... so you could just install directly without running into problems related to configuration
[05:15] <tony_> but mythbuntu doesn't easily allow you to use apps, correct?
[05:16] <tony_> i need a desktop in the same system
[05:21] <superm1> well for cases that you still want a desktop, that's why there is installing this stuff from mythbuntu-control-centre. it abstracts a lot of the configuration stuff
[05:29] <tony_> so i can install the control center and should be easier to config with no probs?
[05:32] <superm1> if you wipe all your myth* packages
[05:32] <superm1> and mysql server packages
[05:32] <superm1> eg purge those packages
[05:32] <superm1> (or completely remove them from synaptic)
[05:32] <superm1> and then install the control centre that should resolve issues
[05:37] <tony_> so what exactly should i purge? i tried to purge mysql* and it asked if wanted to remove a lot of other kde4 stuff
[05:38] <superm1> mysql-server-*
[05:38] <superm1> mysql-server*
[05:38] <superm1> better yet
[05:38] <superm1> and mythtv*
[05:42] <tony_> thanks, i'll give it a shot
[07:04] <ChrisC35> hi
[07:05] <ChrisC35> in the install, how do I know what nvidia driver to use? I have a Radeon 9700 pro with svideo out, etc. the choices are nvidia 2-4, 5+ ?
[07:05] <superm1> so you dont want to use nvidia drivers then :)
[07:05] <ChrisC35> why not
[07:05] <superm1> you dont have an nvidia card
[07:05] <ChrisC35> ah yes right
[07:05] <superm1> radeon 9700 is an ati card
[07:05] <ChrisC35> ati
[07:06] <ChrisC35> should i pick default open source driver?
[07:06] <superm1> well you can try it
[07:06] <superm1> if it doesnt work well for your needs, you can switch to the proprietary AMD driver instead
[07:07] <ChrisC35> will it allow me to use the svideo out to my tv?
[07:07] <superm1> i'm not sure tbh.  it does for some AMD cards
[07:07] <superm1> but not all
[07:08] <ChrisC35> amd cards?
[07:08] <ChrisC35> whats that
[07:08] <superm1> AMD bought ATI
[07:08] <ChrisC35> oh
[07:08] <ChrisC35> so i should use the amd driver shouldnt i?
[07:08] <superm1> well it's up to you
[07:09] <superm1> you can switch back to the open source if you dont like the closed source
[07:09] <superm1> or to the closed source if you dont like the open source
[07:09] <ChrisC35> what is the difference?
[07:09] <superm1> the closed source supports more features on the card generally
[07:10] <superm1> but you are at AMD's whim then regarding support.  if the open source has a bug, you can file it and then get community based support
[07:10] <superm1> when i say features, i mean stuff like low power modes, better graphics acceleration in some cases, textured video on some cards
[07:10] <ChrisC35> ic
[07:11] <superm1> you are probably best trying the open source oe
[07:11] <superm1> and if you dont like how its working
[07:11] <ChrisC35> all i need is to watch tv
[07:11] <superm1> or it doesnt cut it, doesnt do svid
[07:11] <superm1> or something like that
[07:11] <superm1> then try the closed one
[07:11] <ChrisC35> wont be playing games
[07:11] <superm1> it's easy enough to turn on post install
[07:11] <ChrisC35> what is svid?
[07:11] <ChrisC35> oh svideo out
[07:11] <ChrisC35> ok
[07:11] <ChrisC35> i'll try open first then, thanks
[07:14] <ChrisC35> actually i chose amd, cause with open it disables tvout. I was able to choose svideo
[07:14] <ChrisC35> it seems to hang on 5% though. It displays the HD as scsi ata - but its an ide drive. Is that normal?
[07:14] <superm1> the open driver may support it without any configuration options
[07:14] <superm1> that's why that section was greyed out
[07:15] <superm1> it is formatting the drive at about that time usually
[07:15] <ChrisC35> how long does it take to format a 250 gb drive?
[07:16] <ChrisC35> and why would it show it as scsi
[07:16] <foxbuntu> ChrisC35, SATA is SCSI
[07:17] <ChrisC35> ya but i have an ide drive
[07:17] <superm1> everything goes through the scsi subsystem driver now on kernel 2.6.24
[07:17] <ChrisC35> ok
[07:17] <superm1> its a common driver between the drives now
[07:17] <ChrisC35> its taking a LOOONG time at 5%
[07:18] <superm1> is the activity light flickering?
[07:18] <ChrisC35> its saying creating ext3 file system
[07:18] <foxbuntu> superm1, thats really odd that they are using a scsi driver as a common ground now for all drives
[07:18] <ChrisC35> dont see light flickering
[07:19] <ChrisC35> mouse still works though
[07:20] <superm1> ChrisC35, well if you suspect that something might have frozen/locked up during install, you can check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/installer/debug
[07:20] <superm1> open a terminal from the applications menu and you can look at those logs
[07:25] <ChrisC35> from the opening install screen, with all the options?
[07:27] <superm1> while the installer is running through it's little progress window
[07:34] <ChrisC35> how do i get the terminal window then?
[07:34] <ChrisC35> theres a little dialog with the progress bar
[07:34] <ChrisC35> its still on 5%
[07:34] <ChrisC35> for about 20 mins
[07:35] <ChrisC35> thres nothing else on the screen besides the dialog
[07:40] <superm1> ChrisC35, click the applications menu at the top left
[07:40] <superm1> and open the terminal from taht
[07:58] <ChrisC35> top left of what, the dialog?
[07:58] <ChrisC35> there is nothing else on the screen besides the progress bar dialog
[07:59] <ChrisC35> and on the dialog, there is no applications menu
[07:59] <superm1> oh you just picked "install"
[07:59] <superm1> rather than live mode
[07:59] <superm1> if you boot into live mode
[08:00] <superm1> you can still do a regular install
[08:00] <superm1> but you'll have the ability to debug these sorts of problems
[08:00] <superm1> although it hanging at this point is rather unassuring.  you might make sure your drive is wiped before you start install
[08:00] <superm1> this part of the installer doesn't differ from the normal ubuntu installation process, so it's surprising to see problems there
[08:01] <ChrisC35> hmm the drive is brand new
[08:01] <ChrisC35> although it was droppped 2.5 feet onto a carpeted floor by my son
[08:02] <superm1> yeah well restart into live mode
[08:02] <superm1> give things a run from there
[08:02] <superm1> you'll be able to see a lot better if there are errors coming up
[08:02] <ChrisC35> ok
[08:02] <superm1> and if for some reason it being dropped did cause problems, you'll see those in the logs
[08:02] <superm1> or at least in the output of the 'dmesg' command
[08:03] <ChrisC35> gunna log on here from my laptop
[08:04] <superm1> well i'm gonna hit the sack actually,best of luck.  if you dont sort things out, l i'll see you again tomorrow :)
[08:05] <ChrisC35> ok thanks
[08:08] <ChrisC36> hi
[08:34] <ChrisC36> I can never get past the 5% at install, where it is partition formatting
[08:34] <ChrisC36> is there an error console?
[08:34] <ChrisC36> also is there a util on the live cd for formatting the drive?
[08:38] <haffe> mke2fs -j should format the drive
[08:40] <ChrisC36> k
[08:45] <ChrisC36> is there a way to test the drive to make sure it is working right?
[08:45] <ChrisC36> its brand new, but it was dropped
[09:37] <haffe> Ok. I think I've gotten most of mythtv to work. However I have some issues left that I would like som help with.
[09:38] <haffe> I have a remote, I wish the power button on the remote to put the system in hibernate and wake the system from hibernate. Is this possible?
[09:57] <ChrisC36> hi - about this schedules direct with its fee - is there a free way? on other pvr software i've used in windows, the tv schedule is there and free
[10:01] <hads> I'm sure you could scrape web pages if you wanted to.
[10:01] <ChrisC36> what do you mean
[10:02] <ChrisC36> is that the only option for tv schedule data setup in mythtv?
[10:03] <hads> I have no idea, here we get data from the DVB stream. I'd guess schedules direct is probably your best option in the US.
[10:05] <ChrisC36> i'min
[10:05] <ChrisC36> I'm in Canada
[10:05] <ChrisC36> my pvr on windows has all the scheduling for free
[10:05] <hads> OK
[10:06] <ChrisC36> is there a configuration for it , is what i'm asking, in mythtv?
[10:07] <hads> I have no idea. I'm don't know anything about the setup in Canada.
[10:08] <ChrisC36> what is scraping?
[10:09] <hads> I wouldn't have thought that $20/year was that bad anyway.
[10:09] <hads> http://www.google.com/search?q=scraping
[10:10] <ChrisC36> its not bad, but free is better
[10:10] <ChrisC36> do you always give your money out so easilly?
[11:20] <waxhead_> hey everyone...
[11:20] <waxhead_> should a Nvidia GeForce 8600GT with 512meg do the job for HD TV?
[11:25] <hads> That would depend what you mean by HD.
[11:26] <hads> If it's MPEG2 based then yes it should be fine with a decent CPU.
[11:40] <waxhead_> hads: thanks http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/8800GTs/hdplayback.php
[11:40] <waxhead_> hads: thanks http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/8800GTs/hdplayback.php
[11:40] <waxhead_> going to get a 8800
[11:52] <famicom_> meh
[11:52] <famicom_> its all fucked
[11:57] <mib_t4532b6z> helo to everybody
[11:58] <haffe> We could always hope for mplayer compiled with CUDA.
[11:58] <haffe> I think that would help HD-decoding a lot.
[11:59] <mib_t4532b6z> i'm trying start using mythtv
[11:59] <mib_t4532b6z> on linux mce
[11:59] <mib_t4532b6z> but i'm new on this
[12:00] <mib_t4532b6z> I'm felling some difficults how to start
[12:00] <waxhead_> famicom_: bit cynical... :)
[12:01] <mib_t4532b6z> can someone help me?
[12:01] <haffe> What is your problem?
[12:01] <waxhead_> mib_t4532b6z: just as the question
[12:03] <mib_t4532b6z> i'm config the LinuxMce, I alreadt config, the DVD, Pictures, Lights and Shutters Controls
[12:03] <mib_t4532b6z> now is the TV
[12:03] <mib_t4532b6z> but exist a lot of informatiion about the MythTV
[12:04] <mib_t4532b6z> I'm a little confused
[12:04] <mib_t4532b6z> :)~
[12:05] <mib_t4532b6z> I have a TV tuner, ASUS My Cinema - P7131 HYBRID, and want to start using
[12:05] <haffe> Start by configuring a capture card.
[12:05] <mib_t4532b6z> that is my problem! :)
[12:05] <mib_t4532b6z> it is necessary install any driver, or library?
[12:06] <haffe> No shouldn't be.
[12:06] <mib_t4532b6z> exist some tutorial?
[12:08] <mib_t4532b6z> he doesn't detected automatically
[12:08] <mib_t4532b6z> I have to config manually
[12:10] <waxhead_> mib_t4532b6z: is the TV card supported?
[12:10] <waxhead_> it's what I'm learning in general.. go with the hardware that is supported..
[12:16] <mib_t4532b6z> I think the answer is yes, but I already have this card
[12:17] <mib_t4532b6z> I do not have choice
[12:17] <mib_t4532b6z> :)
[12:26] <mib_t4532b6z> where can i find a good tutotrial?
[12:26] <mib_t4532b6z> to learn how to config this?
[12:51] <waxhead_> mib_t4532b6z: I'm going the easy way, but it's going to cost, I'm getting a new tuner card and video card..
[12:51] <waxhead_> mib_t4532b6z: just simpler in the end.
[13:06]  * famicom_ is now playing: Against Me! - Walking Is Still Honest
[14:11] <Pasteurized> hi all
[14:11] <mib_t4532b6z> waxhead_:humm, i want to try using this one
[14:11] <mib_t4532b6z> hello
[14:12] <Pasteurized> Do I only need to add settings to .lirc/mythtv to have all key of my Microsoft MCE keyboard working ?
[14:12] <Pasteurized> or is it more tricky ?
[17:52] <ChrisC36> does mythtv not work with the wintv-hvr-1600? i cant get it to recognize it , it seems
[19:30] <ficoficofico> I guys, I have a problem installing mythtv...... my ip it's not 127.0.0.1, I receive No setting found for this machine's BackendServerIP.
[19:32] <ficoficofico> there's no one?
[19:36] <laga> ficoficofico: can you be a bit more specific?
[19:37] <ficoficofico> yes
[19:38] <ficoficofico> I've installed mysql and all work fine
[19:38] <ficoficofico> I'm using this guide
[19:38] <ficoficofico> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Setup_MythTV
[19:39] <ficoficofico> when I do "ps axwwww | grep myth"
[19:39] <ficoficofico> I have to see this 2 lines
[19:39] <ficoficofico> 23822 ?        Ssl    1:33 /usr/bin/mythbackend --verbose important,general --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[19:39] <ficoficofico> 24808 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep --colour=auto myth
[19:39] <ficoficofico> but I'm not able to see the first
[19:40] <laga> um
[19:40] <ficoficofico> with this command
[19:40] <ficoficofico> tail /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log
[19:40] <laga> the name of this channel is #ubuntu-mythtv. the URL of the guide contains "gentoo"
[19:40] <laga> do you see a pattern there? ;)
[19:41] <ficoficofico> ok I'm on gentoo, but this guide is ok for most distro
[19:41] <ficoficofico> I only want to know
[19:41] <ficoficofico> how can I watch my localhost ip
[19:41] <laga> no.
[19:42] <laga> go to #mythtv-users or a gentoo specific channel
[19:42] <laga> they're more people there
[19:42] <ficoficofico> but... ok
[19:42] <laga> s/they're/there are/
[23:31] <hads> heh Gentoo
[23:33] <laga> yeah.
[23:34] <laga> :'(