[01:50] is likewise-open the best option for AD authentication/services? [01:56] maw_: that's what ive heard but never used it [01:56] so i cant tell you [01:59] ya I briefly tried it and it mostly owrked out of the box [02:14] kirkland: ping [02:14] nxvl: hey, how are you? [02:14] nxvl: got your email, thanks for helping [02:14] kirkland: fine, did you reveived my e-mail? [02:14] that's what i was wondering [02:14] :D [02:15] so [02:15] nxvl: so i added a section to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory , "Getting Involved" [02:15] any update, branch or page? [02:15] ice [02:15] * nxvl checks [02:15] nice* [02:15] nxvl: i'm doing all of my work upstream, with the maintainer's git repo [02:16] he's responsive (and a friend of mine), i submit patches to the list, he applies to the upstream repo [02:16] when he rolls a new version, the debian maintainer creates a new debian package [02:17] sound good [02:17] nxvl: i'll ping the debian maintainer if it lags a week or so [02:17] just code not packaging [02:17] :D [02:17] nxvl: well, actually, the next thing to do is MIR for ecryptfs-utils [02:17] nxvl: have you done MIR's before? [02:17] is a MIR a main inclusion request? [02:18] jjesse: yes [02:18] trying to learn the lingo [02:18] heard that a lot in here [02:18] we will need to work on some firefox, ssh and gpg packaging for the .$package directories [02:18] kirkland: i have participate in some [02:19] nxvl: cool, so i think we need to MIR ecryptfs-utils, and two of its dependencies, trousers and pkcs11-helper [02:19] nxvl: links on the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory page [02:19] nxvl: i have placeholder MIR pages for all 3, not filled out yet [02:19] nxvl: can you help with that? [02:20] ok [02:20] i have 2 hours in a really boring class [02:20] so i have 2 hours to work on it [02:20] :D [02:20] * nxvl starts [02:21] nxvl: ;-) [02:23] kirkland: you have just copy & paste the template, didn't you? [02:23] nxvl: yup [02:23] btw, did you got any answer from the hotel about you camera? [02:24] more lost/stolen stuff from UDS? [02:24] nxvl: they don't have it :-( [02:24] ajmitch: yeah, missing camera, left on the piano on the 3rd floor [02:25] it could be worse, like montreal [02:25] * ajmitch lost laptop bag during breakfast, left table for only a minute or so [02:25] ajmitch: sorry to hear about that, that sucks [02:26] jjesse: yeah, it was more than 2 years ago now, rather annoying at the time [02:26] ah missed scroll [02:26] thought it was breakfast today [02:26] nope, my laptop is on the desk beside me here :) [02:27] I was just recalling UDS back in montreal [02:28] wow you have had terrible luck with uds [02:28] ajmitch: did you have your drive encrypted? [02:28] no, so I got gpg keys revoked & replaced [02:29] at least I had people around who could sign a new key [02:29] this is a good reason for the spec mentioned above :) [02:29] ajmitch: you would have benefited from an encrypted ~/Private directory, with your gpg keys there ;-) [02:31] Hi all - I've never worked with a server before, and I have to set one up at my job that will serve about 10 PCs for now - Think a linux server would be as easy to setup/work with as windows server 2003? [02:31] Resistol: serve what? [02:32] nxvl: okay, i've subscribed to all 3 of those MIRs... you wanna do the same, so that we stay in sync? [02:32] Resistol: depends on what you want it to do [02:32] For right now, it would really just have shared folders and permissions to take care of, with an office housing about 10 windows pcs [02:32] with samba you could do it [02:32] though sharing would be natively done w/ windows 2003 server [02:32] so it would be a file server, maybe a printer server [02:33] depends on if you have an extra license of server 2003 or not [02:33] kirkland: yep i will in a minute [02:33] Resistol: yup, samba [02:33] ppc is still supported? [02:33] The thing with windows is the licenses are thousands of dollars, which is crap [02:33] nxvl: by the community [02:33] kirkland: i mean officialy (that's what we care about) [02:33] Resistol: that's why i asked if you had the extra license or not [02:34] Resistol: you're looking in the right place, then. Linux is free ;-) [02:34] if you odn't then yes you can meet the needs of sharing files and folders out via samba [02:34] nxvl: yeah, not for our purposes [02:34] kirkland: so only i386 and amd64 [02:34] thanks guys - here's i guess the more important question then - which linux distro makes setting up a simple server easiest? [02:34] didn't it? [02:34] nxvl: right [02:35] Resistol: well, we're a bit biased here ;-) [02:35] Resistol: perhaps this wiki page will help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba [02:36] hah i figured kirkland, i've seen a lot of forums mentioning fedora - but i mean I only have about 4 months experience with linux, and i just used Ubuntu Hardy as a desktop - no server stuff [02:37] Resistol: if you're using Ubuntu on the desktop, and it's going well for you, you should be able to handle the server fine too ;-) [02:38] if you feel more comfortable with needing a GUI then you could use a hardy desktop install and then could configure samba that way if you wanted to [02:39] Thanks kirkland - is the file sharing and permissions stuff all working now in hardy? When I tried the "right click -> share this folder" method using a Hardy Beta version a few months ago, none of it was working right [02:39] brb [02:39] Oh, and is there a GUI for setting up an FTP server? [02:41] I used Serve-U on my windows 98 box about 9 years ago, but haven't touched anything like it since then. [02:41] Resistol: with the installation of ubutnu server there is no desktop, no gui [02:42] Resistol: so if that is important, you can install ubuntu-server then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to get all the graphical stuff [02:43] thanks jjesse - could i do it the other way around? Start with desktop and add in server after? [02:43] Resistol: sure, you can just install the server packages you need [02:47] kirkland: i have no ecryptfs-setup-confidential binary [02:47] Is it easy to setup virtual machines and "play network admin" ? I think it would help me to practice by having maybe 5 virtual PCs that I could try to create a network for [02:47] kirkland: or i need to reboot my computer or something [02:47] And can Linux do roaming users? [02:47] Hi Folks. I'm trying to get vnc up and running. I've found this: http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/10/setup-vnc-server-for-ubuntu-gutsy.html, and it seems to work well except it needs me to start a session -after- i log in. I'd like to be able to connect using VNC, and then login. Can anyone help? [02:53] Jessica: I believe it may be possible to configure gdm to allow remote access with Xvnc [02:53] ok, so "sudo gdmsetup"? [02:54] * ajmitch isn't sure how supported that option is, it's been a few years [02:54] yeah, you can look in there [02:54] not really a server question is it? [02:55] Kamping_Kaiser: depends, it's setting a system up as a terminal server of sorts [02:55] kamp, i'm running it on server. sorry if I'm in the wrong place. [02:56] ajmitch, by the time is 'go configure gdm' i dont think heres the place anymore ;) (thats just imo of course ...) [02:56] but regardless, think of it this way. I'm one more user you can sway away from Darth Gates... "feel the force, Jessica".... [02:56] kirkland: nevermind i was testing on my hardy machine, just found it [02:57] so, does one of you nice jedi knights want to help me get it working? [02:57] * ajmitch has given the extent of his outdated knowledge on that topic :) [02:57] *smiles* [03:09] hi [03:09] enyone talk un spanish? [03:12] nxvl: yeah, this is intrepid only [03:13] ViTa, #ubuntu-es ? [03:13] nxvl: but there's a newer version [03:14] kirkland: i have my intrepid image up and running [03:14] nxvl: i'm waiting on the debian maintainer to package the -46 version [03:14] kirkland: so i'm testin there [03:14] testing* [03:15] nxvl: cool, there's some better features/fixes in the 46 version [03:15] nxvl: check out the git repository [03:15] ok [03:15] will check [03:18] nxvl: you could really just pull those scripts out of the git repo [03:19] nxvl: or just wait for the package sync's to happen [03:19] nxvl: i emailed the debian packager today [03:29] it's a problem to be the only packager in my country [03:29] i will be the only one running the Global Bug Jam while teaching the people how to package [04:19] well that's why I got work done today, my virus scanner broke and 4xx'd all my afternoon email. *sigh* [04:20] kees: it's a feature.... [04:20] nealmcb: heh, totally [04:20] I've heard that one before... [04:20] total PEBCAK too. [04:45] hello === lamont` is now known as lamont [06:01] hey all.... anyone know of an app/script that will diff files on two remote servers? [06:06] aslan: Are both the files on the same server, or are you trying to diff between two servers? [06:16] owh: between two servers. [06:16] I had a perl script at one time that did it. [06:16] but I can't find it again... [06:45] at work it looks like i'm going to have to use vmware server to set up *buntu as my desktop at work... winders is required as the base OS :( anyways, i was wondering if jeos kernel might cause any problems with being used for the desktop? [06:47] pteague: Interesting question. Never tried it. [06:47] hi all [06:48] how can i determin the character encoding of a textfile [06:48] like iso or utf [06:48] was just wondering because somebody mentioned to me that server kernel probably wouldn't be a good idea for a desktop due to the differences in the way they handle instructions or something [06:52] pteague: Hmm, well, first of all the JEOS kernel != server kernel. Second, a kernel is generally compiled based on the hardware on which it is expected to run, so you might not expect a web-cam or a graphic tablet on a server, but you would on a workstation. As for handling instructions, I'm not sure what you or "somebody" was trying to say. === _ruben__ is now known as _ruben === klaf is now known as afk_away === afk_away is now known as klaf === klaf is now known as folke [08:41] moin [09:40] Hi all, I have a process running /USR/BIN/CRON. Now that file doesn't exist anywhere. Is that normal? [09:41] I think I've got a reinstall coming my way. [09:55] CrummyGummy: to me that would be a sign my box has potentially been compromised.. [10:00] InsomniaCity: Thanks, I'm treating it like that at the moment. Somehow my one eth has been renamed as well. Its all very suspicious. [10:13] <_ruben> messages with /USR/BIN/CRON in the logs are cronjobs [10:18] Messages in ps aux? [10:19] <_ruben> most likely the same .. not have that many long-running cronjobs .. so cant double check atm [10:52] I'm watching for more but this job has been running since May 6. [11:00] _ruben: Your right, its a stuck cron job. Wierd though. [11:06] hi everyone ... a little off topic, but how do you manage your ssl certificates sanely? === folke_ is now known as folke [12:22] Is there any news about vmware-tools and hardy? [12:24] Or must we still use any-any patch? [12:32] Or perhaps is it more safe to use gutsy [12:35] hi all [12:39] morning ivoks [12:39] sommer: it's almost 2PM :p [12:41] heh, feels like the day is just beginning [13:17] ola alguem poderia me ajudar na insalação do ubutu [13:20] right... [13:20] left [13:20] folke: vmware-tools can be used with openvmtools ... vmware server modules is a different story. [13:21] ivoks: any news about the openldap update/patch? [13:21] do you speak portuguese [13:21] good vmware it?s crazy...very crazy [13:22] shet... [13:22] see... [13:22] atention.. [13:22] RockHound: zul is taking care of it... [13:22] thx [13:23] RockHound: i'm not sure what's the decission :/ [13:24] somebody would know here to say as I install ubutu somebody says Portuguese here [13:24] MDFC: english only; try ubuntu-br [13:25] yes [13:27] face thanks a lot plus you saying only in English I do not obtain to understand everything I go to look a room in Portuguese [13:28] MDFC: ubuntu-br should be a good start [13:29] which its country [13:29] brasil [13:30] fala em português [13:30] ou melhor escreve em português [13:31] ok obliged until more seeing [13:46] <_ruben> hmm .. iscsi is sweeet .. now to figure out how to properly get them targets automounted :) [14:00] What time is ther server team meeting today? [14:00] 15 UTC [14:01] in 2 hours [14:01] * ScottK-palm got called away for $WORK. === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [14:02] * ScottK-palm will read the logs and hopes specs will get discussed even though je's not there. [14:02] je's/he's [14:03] be there [14:03] it's that simple [14:04] * ScottK-palm may be able to get online at the customer site, but definitely don't wait. [14:04] $WORK is overrated ... just fills your fridge and you have to see how to get rid of all that stuff again :P [14:05] Good luck. See you later. [14:06] <_ruben> ah .. changing the order of bootscripts did the trick [14:11] ogra: the other way is to wait for the fridge stored things evolve an get out by them selves .. [14:12] uuuh [14:12] the problem with that is that you cant really use the fridge during that growing period [14:12] right [14:45] It's quiet [14:45] too quiet [14:45] Watch out, Fox, it's a trap! [14:46] i don't like using windows as a base, but at work i'm currently stuck with it... the box is a core 2 duo... any ideas as to whether i should set up my linux virtual machine under vmware as having 1 cpu or 2? [14:47] Does vmware have trouble running multicore VMs? [14:47] <_ruben> 2 hardly ever gives performance improvement over 1, it actually decreases performance most of the time [14:48] i don't know on vmware with multicore [14:49] <_ruben> start with 1 vcpu, and if performance is a problem, you could try with with 2 vcpus, but dont expect wonders or even anything from it [14:49] k, sounds like you know what you're talking about, which was what i was looking for :) [14:50] ouch :( [14:52] <_ruben> pteague_work: its rather logical ... 1 vcpu : your vm only requires 1 real cpu to be avail .. 2 vcpu : your vm requires 2 real cpus to be available ... available as in free cpu cycles [14:52] <_ruben> quite a difference is scheduling overhead [14:53] well here's the issue... at work i'm forced to use windows because somebody else may have to use my machine (i'm not sure how they'll be able to figure out to get vmware out of full screen mode, but that's another issue)... so i'll be using vmware to install ubuntu & then using that as my desktop [14:54] not sure if i'll set up any other virtual machines or not [14:55] hello, someone is using hardy php5 (version 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.1)? it seems like it has a bug interpreting HEREDOC string syntax... can someone try and see if this ( http://pastebin.org/42803 ) runs well on it? [14:56] is there a command to regenerate the stock ftp or http urls for sources.list [14:56] <_ruben> pteague_work: 1 or more vms isnt really the issue (but does mittigate it a bit), the vm will also have to compete with your host os for cpu cycles [14:57] I want to fire off the command at the last minute during the install in my kickstart [14:57] else the stupid kickstart or ubuntu installer makes sources.list point to the local pxe boot server which won't be around [14:57] <_ruben> psufan: why not just stash the default sources.list on ur http/ftp/nfs/whatever server and copy it over ? [14:58] i'm afraid of having to document those steps :P [14:58] but I guess if I got no choice [14:58] <_ruben> psufan: im guessing the file's created by the installer, and those commands might not be available in a running system [14:58] :q [14:58] eish [14:58] <_ruben> :q! [14:58] well I don't know that but it would be easier to give them a working install [14:58] wrong window [15:00] Would it be beneficial to me to use JeOS on a xen environment? It's touted as omptimized for KVM and VMware. [15:01] <_ruben> lukehasnoname: i'd say it does .. it uses a kernel with virtualization in mind, and a very small (disk and memory) footprint [15:02] cool, I figured its slim size would help in any case. Now, it still has all server functions available, just a minimized footprint due to less drivers, streamlined kernel? [15:04] <_ruben> lukehasnoname: yeah .. and low HZ and stuff [15:05] ah, JeOS... that brings up a question i asked last night... would the kernel be ok to run a desktop? i.e. should i set up my vmware desktop using jeos & 1 of the desktop live CDs? [15:06] <_ruben> pteague_work: that'd be a bit of a corner case .. im *guessing* it'd work, but wouldnt know for sure [15:07] k, i'll stick with the desktop then [15:07] Also, xen vs. kvm: Your opinion. [15:08] or abstain, but back up your statements if you can [15:08] <_ruben> the choice between any virtualization product depends on both personal preference, technical requirements and budget [15:14] _ruben: google is my friend. Looking at http://kvm.qumranet.com/kvmwiki/FAQ, kvm supports live migration, which is good. It also seems to be less blky (so it claims). [15:14] its advantage is that it's supported (as in advocated) by the core linux community. However, I have a book on xen, soooo... >_> [15:15] blky/bulky. [15:16] How quaint, lukehasnoname has a book. [15:16] [15:18] erm, ebook o_o Seriously, I learn better from books that are professionally written and on paper. eBooks are alright, but real books are just better for me. FreeBSD 6 Unleashed, Ubuntu Server Administration, C# 2.0... [15:18] Not that I don't have some really helpful ebooks... about 300 of them [15:18] <_ruben> lukehasnoname: im more of a vmware person myself, but like already stated: its a matter of personal taste among other things [15:19] * owh put all books into storage before starting a trip around Australia, now all books are on a mobile phone :) [15:19] <_ruben> still hoping on getting a decent arrangement with vmware for their esx hosting product .. otherwise we might have to resort to using m$ hyper-v or some shit [15:20] _ruben: I have been a VMware "person" for a while also, but since support seems to be decoupled from the kernel version, I'm beginning to regret it. [15:20] <_ruben> owh: not sure what you mean? [15:21] _ruben: Well, from a maintenance perspective it needs to be apt-get installable, but the lag between release is getting ridiculous. [15:21] but omgz0rz vmware isn't FOSS!!!111!!one! I would like to keep in line with the "libre" philosophy, whenever practical. Owh: Ya, That's why my paper:ebook ratio is about 1:10. I move a few times a year. [15:21] Have either of you TRIED xen or kvm before? Had any experience to reflect on? [15:21] <_ruben> tried both, but never on decent hardware .. didnt like them very much [15:22] <_ruben> vmware is *very* strong in its management toolset [15:22] I realise that there are those who install from source, but the skill of developers leaves me with little confidence that their make install doesn't overwrite stuff without notification. [15:22] _ruben: Yes, I'll grant you that. [15:22] * owh suspects that since Ubuntu has gone the kvm route, some stuff will begin to happen there too. [15:23] <_ruben> true [15:23] * owh has not yet had a spare moment to actually start looking at kvm in anything other than a cursory fashion. [15:23] hi [15:23] <_ruben> but xen and kvm are still a bit "tricky" when it comes to virtualize windows systems [15:23] don't speking in french here? [15:23] cemoi: CaVa? [15:23] Hi again. Any ideas why udev would keep renaming my nics? [15:23] <_ruben> only english here [15:24] mm [15:24] <_ruben> CrummyGummy: under which circumstances does the renaming happen ? [15:24] no french suport for the ubuntu server [15:24] ? [15:25] xen has a better name though. The letter "x" represents "coolness". Point taken, owh, and my point as well. kvm is now an official part of the kernel, so it should be supported and documented well. [15:25] cemoi: Well, if you have a question and you're French, then we can help you. [15:25] ok thank's a lot [15:25] cemoi: Even if you we're Canadian :) [15:25] cemoi: Or Dutch even. [15:26] uu o_O [15:26] pas français alors? === folke_ is now known as folke [15:26] Nope, je parle une petit Francais, but my keyboard doesn't support it :) [15:27] mm ok [15:27] s/petit/petit peu/ [15:27] !fr [15:27] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr [15:27] * _ruben hasnt spoken french since high school, even that hasnt been *that* long [15:28] C'est bien Deeps :) [15:28] My French is from the same schooling system as yours _ruben :) [15:28] <_ruben> owh :) [15:28] And German too :) [15:29] <_ruben> german class i dropped the moment i had a chance [15:29] je ne parle francais [15:29] <_ruben> french was next [15:29] mm ok ok [15:29] I've update /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules but it doesn't seem to be assigning the right names to network cards. [15:29] I try to learn more about the introduction of quotas on a server webdav es que ubuntu server expect something? [15:29] _ruben: Ditto. [15:29] <_ruben> Deeps: indeed, since even that line is wrong :) [15:29] Parla vos anglese? [15:29] <_ruben> its: je ne parle pas francais [15:29] <_ruben> afaik [15:29] * Deeps shrugs [15:29] i can understand better than i speak ;) [15:29] <_ruben> hehe [15:29] my gf's belgian and her family only speaks a bit of english and spanish, so i've had to learn a lot [15:29] (cuz they speak french) [15:30] <_ruben> belgian's are "odd" that way :) [15:30] very easy to understand though [15:30] much easier than the french i've found [15:30] the accent, at least [15:30] from an spanglish perspective, anyway [15:30] we don't no? [15:30] you don't no sorry [15:30] <_ruben> CrummyGummy: nuking that file will have it recreated at next boot .. and shouldnt change unless there's any hardware changes [15:31] cemoi: To get to the point, what issues are you having? [15:33] Wow, huge lag. [15:33] reading... [15:34] I just restarted udev and it renamed eth0_rename to eth0_rename_ren [15:35] That should've been eth0 in the first place. The mac address is right. [15:35] owh, It can not inherit quotas on the file system by users as an FTP server. The webdav does not support it we can not therefore not limit users in quantities of data through the quotas. [15:35] Anybody got any suggestions for cemoi about this? [15:36] New bug: #238872 in php5 (main) "php5 fails to interpret a valid script using heredoc string syntax" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238872 [15:36] * owh has not played with quota's [15:36] * _ruben never worked with quotas [15:36] <_ruben> heh [15:36] I'm intrigued by that bug report. [15:36] <_ruben> CrummyGummy: restarting just udev is a tad tricky .. a full reboot usually does a better job at renaming such things [15:37] I though I had it fixed. Rebooted and it was back to wierdness. [15:37] the problem is that a user just very well overwhelm the disc then it has no limits [15:38] http://www.pastebin.ca/1043884 [15:38] Gonna reboot and see what happens. [15:38] Hmm, well that php bug seems to also not work for me, that's a first :) [15:42] there are people who have servers webdav under ubuntu here? [15:46] New bug: #238878 in likewise-open (main) "Change likewise-open default Domain separator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/238878 [15:48] mm :,( [15:49] cemoi: Don't despair. Send your question to the ubuntu-server list and see what response you get. [15:49] forum exist? [15:50] ubuntuforums.org [15:51] for servers only [15:51] also the mailing list, ubuntu-server@lists.ubuntu.com [15:51] this will be equivalent to this but for openoffice [15:51] http://workspace.officelive.com/?lc=1036&cloc=fr-FR [15:51] ok [15:51] _ruben: This is like a lottery. Every time I reboot my if devices are named differently. [15:51] a lot of server devs read that list [15:51] <_ruben> CrummyGummy: strange [15:51] ok ok thank's [15:52] It worked last time. The last 2 times its different. [15:57] * owh wonders if there is a log that shows what is renaming things for CrummyGummy [16:00] server team meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now [16:01] nealmcb: Are you involved in the commercial side of things? [16:04] Maybe dendrobates will come to the meeting and talk about specs since mathiaz bailed out on us. [16:05] ScottK2: Actually bailed, or just freenode fun? [16:05] All the same to me. [16:05] nijaba claims he's coming. [16:05] Well, one is intentional :) [16:06] is #ubuntu-meeting closed? [16:06] no [16:06] so I can lurk? [16:06] CrummyGummy: You bet [16:06] cool [16:06] you can even speak if you want:) [16:07] more cool [16:07] aaarg, nuf with the udev renaming already.!!!! [16:23] anyone here use fwbuilder? [16:24] played with it many years ago [16:27] its really useful most of the time! im getting some pain from it, trying to send a firewall, and its adding ? to the command :/ [16:30] well, you could always post-process it and strip the ?s [16:32] hi [16:35] does anyone know why apache2 is not honoring "HostnameLookups Off" on 8.04 ? [16:36] thus logging with ip resolved to names [16:36] InsomniaCity, ye, not ideal though :/ [16:38] jero: are you doing it in the right vhost/dir/whatever? [16:38] InsomniaCity: it is in the global section [16:39] jdstrand: could you drop by #ubuntu-meeting [16:39] jdstrand: ? [16:48] kirkland: I actually think a more correct fix (for the next upload, I just uploaded your other patch now), would be to do a 2>/dev/null || true on the "." lines [16:48] i.e. . ~/.selected_editor 2>/dev/null || true [16:48] in both places where it's done [16:48] kees: interesting.... okay [16:49] kees: i was purposefully trying to avoid touching sensible-editor again [16:49] kees: but that looks clean too [16:49] that way it'll catch stupid race conditions where -r is true, the file is deleted, and then it sources it. [16:50] yeah, do it for the next upload, or keep it on the TODO list -- getting it into the "best" possible shape is fine even if it takes a few uploads. :) [16:50] kees: i have the source in front of me [16:50] kees: i'll just debdiff again [16:51] anyone has apache2 running and noticed it does not respect the HostnameLookups directive ? [16:52] hello [17:04] kees: patch attached to the bottom of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debianutils/+bug/238879 fixing the issue you just mentioned [17:04] Launchpad bug 238879 in debianutils "sensible-editor fails when there is only one alternative" [Low,Fix released] [17:04] kees: (potential issue) :-) [17:05] Koon: not problem [17:05] Koon: the color means how long since the last merge IIRC [17:05] Koon: or may the priority of the package [17:05] Koon: anyway - it's not so relevant [17:05] how can i block avi files with FilesMatch on ubuntu ? [17:06] Koon: I'd suggest that you start by the universe list of outstanding merge [17:06] Koon: and pick a package that you're interested in [17:06] mathiaz: sure [17:07] Koon: I'll go through the list today and send a selection of packages you could start working on [17:07] Koon: some of the merges are easier than others [17:07] kirkland: doing that in ()'s means the "." would happen in a sub-shell [17:07] kees: ew, and not bubble up [17:08] mathiaz: ok, I'll catch your mail when I start tomorrow [17:08] see you all tomorrow [17:08] cya Koon [17:09] is there a command to regenerate the stock ftp or http urls for sources.list [17:10] I want to fire off the command at the last minute during the install in my kickstart [17:10] else the stupid kickstart or ubuntu installer makes sources.list point to the local pxe boot server which won't be around [17:10] kees: testing it out here, looks like I can just remove the parens [17:10] kees: order of operations holds as is [17:13] kirkland: okay, cool [17:13] kees: updated patch attached to that bug [17:13] kees: thanks for the immediate reviews ;-) [17:13] kirkland: no problemo :) [17:15] kirkland: changelog has "hardy" rather than "intrepid". :P [17:16] kees: arrggggggg, sorry [17:16] kees: vim really needs to be patched :-/ [17:17] vim? "dch -i" :P [17:19] kees: attached to bug [17:19] kees: well, vim is still highlighting "intrepid" as erroneous [17:19] nxvl has a bug and a patch for that one [17:26] kirkland: hm, my vim doesn't do that... [17:26] kees: are you running intrepid or hardy? [17:27] intrepid [17:27] kees: well, i'm still on hardy on my laptop [17:27] ah-ha, okay [17:27] i'll be switching to intrepid soon [17:28] kirkland: you can use chroots to do your work [17:29] mathiaz: i set up pbuilder, but I ran into some issues [17:29] mathiaz: i need to give that another shot [17:29] kirkland: I'm using schroot [17:29] mk-sbuild-lv! :) [17:30] mathiaz: wiki page for setup instructions? [17:30] kees: do you have more than one chroot per release ? [17:30] kees: ie have an intrepid and intrepid-sbuild chroot ? [17:30] kirkland: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SbuildLVMHowto?highlight=(Sbuild) [17:31] mathiaz: ah, yes, sbuild [17:31] mathiaz: I have 1 chroot per release per arch, so i386 and amd64 of dapper, feisty, gutsy, hardy, intrepid [17:31] kees: I've started to use chroots to work in it but found that it lacks some tools [17:31] mathiaz: and the same again in kvm. :P [17:31] kees: so I've started to install the default tools in the chroot -source [17:31] mathiaz: ah-ha, yeah [17:32] kees: but then build dependencies can be wrong and not detected [17:32] mathiaz: since my main machine is intrepid, I just do dev work there [17:32] any idea why I can only see 438MB of RAM when having a 1GB module installed? [17:32]