[00:00] <Rampage> SeanL9941: not exactly
[00:00] <legend2440> daves111: yes it affects a lot of things
[00:00] <Jordan_U> Shak-, What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:00] <Shak-> Jordan_U: 8.04
[00:00] <SeanL9941> well, i was going to use the partition program in ubuntu
[00:00] <Rampage> SeanL9941: if you are planning to install it might aswell do it now
[00:00] <SeanL9941> cause i have not done it yet
[00:00] <daves111> legend2440: sorry to keep talking if you are busy; but how do I learn more at the terminal level. I know a lot of dos
[00:00] <Rampage> SeanL9941: as live cd is limited in what you can use
[00:00] <Rampage> sean you can download gparted livecd and use that
[00:00] <SeanL9941> i was just going by what someones video on youtube
[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !cli
[00:01] <Rampage> SeanL9941:  you can download gparted livecd and use that
[00:01] <newbyx86> alt+f2 xterm -bg black -fg white ftw
[00:01] <newbyx86> (don't actually put ftw)
[00:01] <legend2440> !bash |  daves111
[00:01] <Rampage> SeanL9941: I always use gparted to modify partitions
[00:01] <SeanL9941> gparted came with it i thought thats why i was tring to do try it first
[00:01] <electroman87> Before anything Hello all. I'm afraid that i am indeed a newb to ubuntu. and any help would be greatly appreciated. Now I was wondering if someone could help me i am unable to install programs in ubuntu. I tried "make" and "sudo make install" but i get "make: *** [default] Error 2 and then nothing happens is there anyone that can help me.
[00:01] <Jordan_U> Shak-, I don't know what it could be then, a possible solution might be to try using pulseaudio :)
[00:01] <SeanL9941> OK,..but if i hit install now, and i have not done any partition yet what'll happen?
[00:01] <Jordan_U> electroman87, What are you trying to install?
[00:01] <Rampage> SeanL9941: you can edit partitions in the installation process
[00:02] <electroman87> a vpn lcient
[00:02] <newbyx86> electroman87: Go put the entire log on a pastebin and give us the link.
[00:02] <Jack_Sparrow> electroman87 As a new user, you should look at synaptic, apt-get and aptitude and stick with our repositories of tested software
[00:02] <SeanL9941> ok perfect :) thanks ill get on it,
[00:02] <daves111> legend2440: what?
[00:02] <Jordan_U> electroman87, Which vpn client?
[00:02] <electroman87> it comes in a tar.gz file
[00:02] <Rampage> SeanL9941: make sure you choose manual and not guided though
[00:02] <SeanL9941> ok
[00:02] <legend2440> daves111: up above Jack_Sparrow got you a link to read about terminal commands
[00:02] <Shak-> Jordan_U: hmm do you know of any command that can show what procs are using the audio? I've tried switching between all the audio interfaces and playing a file but none of em play the audio :/
[00:02] <Rampage> SeanL9941: guided uses the full disk
[00:02] <SeanL9941> anything else i should know?
[00:02] <icqnumber__> ttt, why was not you happy with the one form the repo, if will do a kernel update, you will need to install/update nvidia driver manually again?
[00:02] <David__> http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/IncomingF5/DSC00349.jpg just installed from the alternate cd ubuntu 8.04 wont boot this is the messege i am getting can someone tell me what is wrong.
[00:02] <newbyx86> I love the repos haha.
[00:02] <newbyx86> I'm pretty good with linux and I stick with them
[00:02] <Rampage> SeanL9941: have you defragmented the windows partition?
[00:02] <newbyx86> makes for easy updating :)
[00:02] <icqnumber__> ttt, from*
[00:02] <SeanL9941> tried to, but said i didnt need to
[00:02] <electroman87> it's cisco vpn client
[00:03] <Rampage> SeanL9941: try run an offline defragment to move the unmovable files
[00:03] <SeanL9941> fresh installof xp pro about 2 weeks ago
[00:03] <Rampage> SeanL9941: that should be okay i guess
[00:03] <Jordan_U> electroman87, There is a cisco vpn client that comes with Ubuntu ( installed by default ) as part of network-manager
[00:03] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essential | electroman87
[00:03] <Chousuke> David__: either your hardware is broken or the CD was corrupted
[00:03] <jobr> SeanL9941, what are you trying to do
[00:03] <jobr> ?
[00:03] <legend2440> !cli  | daves111
[00:03] <SeanL9941> jobr: just being a noob thats all :)
[00:03] <Rampage> SeanL9941: install it and if the partition resizing moans at you do an offline defragment of the windows drive
[00:03] <daves111> legend2440: sorry, can't seem to find it
[00:03] <sam_> Hey, Im in the process of building a computer and im looking for a case. Price doesnt matter too much although cheaper is probably better...I just dont like those stupid doors on the front and i like windows to show off my stuff but not those gay dragon lookin things...any ideas
[00:03] <electroman87> i read that and followed the steps but no go
[00:04] <zvacet> SeanL9941 : defragment it few times anyway
[00:04] <Jack_Sparrow> daves111 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[00:04] <electroman87> the vpn client i am installing has the settings for my campus included
[00:04] <jobr> SeanL9941, aren't wee all
[00:04] <daves111> legend2440: oh, I see it
[00:04] <SeanL9941> jobr: installing ubuntu on my htpc , first time linux user  thats all
[00:04] <SeanL9941> :)
[00:04] <newbyx86> htpc eh
[00:04] <chimp> Anyone here know how to force ubuntu NOT to perform a forced fsck on bootup?
[00:04] <zvacet> SeanL9941 : I see windows ready for defragment just after install
[00:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !fsck
[00:04] <Rampage> SeanL9941: i've just started using linux a month ago, am new to a lot of things
[00:04] <legend2440> daves111: ok got to go have fun
[00:04] <David__> chou suke
[00:04] <David__> how can i fix my hardware
[00:05] <David__> what could be the problem
[00:05] <daves111> legend2440: thanks again
[00:05] <jobr> SeanL9941, did you have quations about partitions... du you got the nomal live cd or the alternative
[00:05] <David__> how do i make my hd not read only
[00:05] <SeanL9941> alright ill go back to xp and defrag then pop the disk in
[00:05] <Rampage> zvacet: i avoid defragmenting unless i'm having to modify the partitions
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> David__ ntfs partition?
[00:05] <SeanL9941> job i got the normal install cd
[00:05] <David__> yeahg
[00:05] <chimp> Jack_Sparrow: Only have access via live cd, should i mount the / and then create the fastboot file there?
[00:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs-3g
[00:05] <sam_> Hey, Im in the process of building a computer and im looking for a case. Price doesnt matter too much although cheaper is probably better...I just dont like those stupid doors on the front and i like windows to show off my stuff but not those gay dragon lookin things...any ideas
[00:05] <David__> but istarted with unallcocted space
[00:05] <Jordan_U> electroman87, Sorry, it seems that it does not come by default but can be installed with the package "network-manager-vpnc" which you can get either by running "sudo apt-get install network-manager-vpnc" or using system -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager if you prefer a GUI
[00:06] <jobr> nths-3g -- isn't it installed default in hardy?
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> chimp im a bit under the weather, someone else will know.. I dont want to mess you up
[00:06] <zvacet> Rampage : defragment windows before Ubuntu install
[00:06] <Rampage> SeanL9941: also i'd suggest running an offline defragmenter for the unmovable files (perfectdisk'd do)
[00:06] <SeanL9941> sucks right now i only have 1 keyboard (g15) my ps/2 keyboard doesnt want to work on my htpc and my MS bluetooth htpc keyboard doesnt work in command line anything
[00:06] <jobr> zvacet, Whay defracment? what should it heap?
[00:06] <electroman87> the problem is the installer i have comes with the profiles for my school already configured
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> jobr Yes, but his drive could be lovked down by windows for a number of reasons
[00:06] <quailman> is this the right channel for help?
[00:06] <Jack_Sparrow> locked
[00:06] <SeanL9941> cant say i know what offline defrag is /means
[00:07] <jobr> Jack_Sparrow, kk :) just asking
[00:07] <sam_> anybody at all
[00:07] <Rampage> SeanL9941: it means it will move the unmovable files that windows defragment can't move
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:07] <zvacet> job : if you want to dual boot and don´t want to lose any of yours windows files
[00:07] <SeanL9941> how do i  do it? just defrag?
[00:07] <Rampage> SeanL9941: so means you cna play around with the partitions better
[00:07] <SonicComKid> seems like a good install this time finally
[00:07] <user01> why is wireless networking so difficult in ubuntu?  i always seem to have problems with it . . .
[00:07] <Jordan_U> electroman87, My wireless lost signal for a second, did you get my previous message?
[00:07] <Rampage> SeanL9941: you need another application, i use perfect disk for offline defragmenting
[00:07] <SonicComKid> takes 5 seconds when I pick XP for it to actually start to load, but that's fine
[00:07] <electroman87> no
[00:07] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 Buy hardware with better support
[00:08] <Jordan_U> electroman87, Sorry, it seems that it does not come by default but can be installed with the package "network-manager-vpnc" which you can get either by running "sudo apt-get install network-manager-vpnc" or using system -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager if you prefer a GUI
[00:08] <electroman87> i don't think so jordan
[00:08] <sam_> ok well then while im in here.....
[00:08] <jobr> zvacet, hehe.... that makes NOOOO difference....
[00:08] <LetsGo67> Como se llama los perros calientes?
[00:08] <xzedn> thank you for getting my sound working again
[00:08] <chimp> Thanks for the help Jack_Sparrow, hope you feel better
[00:08] <xzedn> i have no problems now :)
[00:08] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, cant you change the channel?
[00:08] <sam_> anybody have an easy fix for the hardy wireless problems
[00:08] <SeanL9941> raxco perfectdisk?
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !es | LetsGo67
[00:08] <jobr> zvacet, That's all about how your partitions is set up
[00:08] <Jordan_U> electroman87, Once you install that you can connect to your VPN by clicking the network-manager applet at the top right of the screen
[00:08] <RULR> why is video quality on youtube so bad. something wrong with firefox?
[00:08] <LetsGo67> Jack_Sparrow I just love getting that error message.
[00:08] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 That wont help with poorly supported documented hardware
[00:08] <David__> jack_sparrow my harddrive is ntfs
[00:08] <electroman87> i cna't get it to install
[00:09] <user01> Jack_Sparrow, broadcom?
[00:09] <zvacet> jobr : but if you want to shrink your windows partition?
[00:09] <Rampage> SeanL9941: yes
[00:09] <David__> but i shrunk it then use the unallocated space for ubuntu install
[00:09] <LetsGo67> Jack_Sparrow what happened to ubotu?
[00:09] <SeanL9941> ok getting it right now
[00:09] <Jordan_U> electroman87, what happens when you run "sudo apt-get install network-manager-vpnc" ?
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> user01 I have had good luck with most broadcoms
[00:09] <sam_> What the fuck is the point of coming in here if no one will help me??
[00:09] <SeanL9941> rampage did you switch from xp or vista?
[00:09] <daves111> now getedit is telling me it is going to erase the changes in 42 minutes and that I don't have permission to keep changes
[00:09] <Rampage> SeanL9941: so run windows defragment and only offline defragment in perfect disk
[00:09] <Jack_Sparrow> sean sorry one sec
[00:09] <jobr> zvacet, yeah... thats right.. do you have to shrink?
[00:09] <Rampage> SeanL9941: i switched from xp to avoid the crap called vista :P
[00:10] <LetsGo67> WhAt HaPpEnNeD tO uBoTu?
[00:10] <electroman87> 1 sec jordan_u
[00:10] <SonicComKid> I know half of the people here will scream 'scuritry flaw' but this is just a perosnal PC for gaming. Is there a way to make Ubuntu auto-login and stop asking for my password when I use verious apps like package manager?
[00:10] <Jack_Sparrow> LetsGo67 Please stop
[00:10] <zvacet> jobr : not me it was advice for somebody else and I don´t know what he want so I advice him in safe way
[00:10] <LetsGo67> That was a genuine question :(
[00:10] <Jordan_U> electroman87, I need to leave right now but I will be back in about half an hour, feel free to /msg me if you have a question and I will try to get back to you
[00:10] <chalcedony> SonicComKid: run as root?
[00:11] <Starnestommy> LetsGo67: ubottu replaced it
[00:11] <achandrashekar> 3 hour delay..at denver international..and thank god i have my asus eee and ubuntu.
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> SonicComKid Yes, you can change the setting in the login window manager under security
[00:11] <xivanari> heya folks
[00:11] <SonicComKid> chalcedony, ..that won't make it auto-login as me
[00:11] <xivanari> whatsup
[00:11] <LetsGo67> Starnestommy: when was ubotu's funerals?  ;'(
[00:11] <xivanari> I need some help figuring out JACK rack and how to use it
[00:11] <SonicComKid> thanks Jack_Sparrow
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[00:11] <jobr> can ubuntu live CD shrink ntfs partitions?? anyone
[00:11] <SeanL9941> ?
[00:11] <Jack_Sparrow> jobr yes
[00:11] <LetsGo67> jobr YES
[00:11] <SeanL9941> odd, why did that happen?
[00:11] <LetsGo67> jobr settings > admi > partition manager
[00:11] <chalcedony> Jack_Sparrow: nice to see you :)
[00:11] <Starnestommy> LetsGo67: I think it was just replaced for now
[00:11] <PaulM> 'lo everyone... wondering if anyone knows how to kill the modal dialog boxes in emacs...
[00:11] <xivanari> does anyone here have experience with the JACK software package, who could help me get it set up properly and answer some of my questions?
[00:11] <jobr> LetsGo67, Thank
[00:12] <jobr> Jack_Sparrow, Thank
[00:12] <jomanc> hi, im trying to edit my applications menu, i right click on Applications, and then click on Edit Menus and it doesnt work. i found that i can bring up the menu editor by running sudo alacarte, but i cant edit al
[00:12] <jomanc> all the entries in the other menu
[00:12] <genii> jomanc: Thats likely becase you ran it with sudo at some point instead of gksu
[00:12] <electroman87> Jordan_u it worked but i do not have the profiles for my school
[00:13] <genii> permissions were changed so normal user can't access it anymore
[00:13] <jobr> zvacet, i think defragmenting is not necessary... but mabye a good idea
[00:13] <sensae> I'm trying to get KitchenSync to sync SyncML, it won't run
[00:13] <jobr> zvacet, i wound not do it :)
[00:13] <jomanc> genii, how do i change them back? find alacarte in one of the bin directories and change the permissions?
[00:14] <genii> jomanc: No. On;y the things in your own home directory
[00:14] <jobr> jomanc,what are you tryning to do
[00:14] <zvacet> jobr : like I said it is not for me I don´t use M$
[00:14] <genii> jobr: He's ran alacarte with sudo and now normal user can't access it
[00:15] <j85wilson> best video editing software on ubuntu, what is it?
[00:15] <jomanc> genii: what things in my home directory?
[00:15] <j85wilson> I'm a complete and utter noob at video editing.
[00:15] <j85wilson> and don't require much more than cutting and sticking bits together.
[00:15] <chimp> Jack_Sparrow: Adding fastboot via live cd worked a charm, thanks
[00:16] <jobr> zvacet, Ohhh... i did not know that it was a user in here... Just trying to help :)
[00:16] <zvacet> jobr : np
[00:16] <co_bolos_skool> surabaya
[00:16] <jobr> genii, Who
[00:16] <Jack_Sparrow> chimp great.. glad it worked
[00:17] <chimp> Still have to work out why fsck causes kernel panic though..... grr
[00:17] <quailman> hey everybody. I started the 8.04 upgrade this morning when i left for work. I got home and the screen's blank. the computer's still on, but nothing works. no caps lock light, no waking. ----  is it safe to restart the machine??
[00:17] <genii> jobr:  jomanc
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> quailman ctrl alt F2 first
[00:18] <marcus_> yes reboot
[00:18] <Jack_Sparrow> see if it will bring up a cli
[00:18] <genii> jomanc: All things in your home dir should be owned by you actually. I'm trying to find the exact file name atm
[00:18] <marcus_> i'm guessing you didn't test woith the live disc?
[00:18] <jomanc> genii okay thanks
[00:19] <jomanc> only things that are owned in my homedir by somebody other than me is .dbus by root
[00:19] <quailman> ctrl alt F2 = nothing
[00:19] <jobr> quailman, ?
[00:19] <dynamethod> Hey im ssh'ing to my home machine(on windows atm) using putty, how do i open up another terminal session?
[00:19] <newbyx86> dynamethod: open up another putty?
[00:19] <Jaffarkelshac> i am having a perculiar problem with firefox, if i edit bookmarks, and i close firefox, the changes revert,
[00:19] <dynamethod> no
[00:19] <jobr> quailman, ctrl alt F1... nothing?
[00:19] <Jack_Sparrow> quailman then yes, reboot.. Had to check that though
[00:20] <quailman> ctrl alt F1 also nothing
[00:20] <dynamethod> usually in bash i just use alt f1 but thats not working with putty
[00:20] <electroman87> how do i find out what kernal im using??
[00:20] <newbyx86> dynamethod: What do you mean another terminal session? Do you want a new bash?
[00:20] <dynamethod> yup a new bash
[00:20] <zvacet> electroman87 : uname -r
[00:20] <Starnestommy> electroman87: to find your kernel version, use uname -a
[00:20] <newbyx86> Try "bash -l" ?
[00:20] <quailman> thanks guys. I'll reboot & see what happens
[00:20] <dynamethod> cause im running WEBrick, so i cant do anythhing else otherwise
[00:20] <newbyx86> OH.
[00:20] <newbyx86> You rpobably want screen.
[00:20] <newbyx86> probably*
[00:20] <dynamethod> ya thats the one
[00:20] <electroman87> thank you
[00:21] <newbyx86> Is screen installed?
[00:21] <dynamethod> not sure, but i could install it
[00:21] <newbyx86> Type "screen" into bash, then you can create new "screens" with some keystrokes.
[00:21] <newbyx86> CREATE A NEW TERMINAL: [CTRL + A] C
[00:21] <newbyx86> (hold CTRL, push A, let go of both, push C)
[00:21] <newbyx86> then to move between them, use [CTRL + A] N and [CTRL + A] p
[00:21] <Shak-> is there a way to see what processes are tying up my audio card?
[00:22] <dynamethod> sweet, ill try that as soon as my lag chills the fak out
[00:22] <newbyx86> haha ok
[00:22] <Jaffarkelshac> i am having a perculiar problem with firefox, if i edit bookmarks, and i close firefox, the changes revert,how do i find out whats going wrong
[00:22] <genii> jomanc: You need to chown ~/.config/menus/applications.menu back to your username and group
[00:22] <newbyx86> It should actually be [CTRL + a] c/n/p, the capitlized variatns may do something different.
[00:22] <newbyx86> :P
[00:23] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, how experienced are you
[00:23] <Jaffarkelshac> i do fine Jobias
[00:23] <sensae> How can I sync Kontact with KitchenSync?
[00:23] <Ice_Max> is there a way to repartition my windows hard drive so i can install ubuntu on it using a live Cd of 8.04?
[00:23] <Jaffarkelshac> i do fine Jobr
[00:23] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, have you checked permissons?
[00:23] <dynamethod> shot thanks newbyx86 that works
[00:23] <newbyx86> :) glad to help.
[00:23] <marcus_> Ice, yes
[00:23] <newbyx86> (I'm using my IRC client in a screen so I can close putty and re-open from wherever)
[00:23] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, Glad to hear by the way
[00:23] <newbyx86> (It's nice!)
[00:23] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, :)
[00:24] <marcus_> try running the install and the partition manger will start
[00:24] <newbyx86> oh, and ot detach screen, [CTRL + a] d
[00:24] <newbyx86> and then to resume the screen: screen -r
[00:24] <Jaffarkelshac> yeah, default was rx, tried rwx but still changes dont stay jobr
[00:24] <zvacet> Ice_Max : you can use  live CD without thouch win
[00:24] <Ice_Max> marcus_, what should i do to repartition it withotu lsoing any data? i wna tot be able to dual boot ubuntu and XP
[00:24] <dynamethod> lol i gota try keep on the low down cause im in the middle of class, hell the tutor doesnt even realise ive found out the proxy port to get outside of the local network lmao
[00:24] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, hmmm.... strange.. with version of ff?
[00:24] <newbyx86> haha nice
[00:24] <Jaffarkelshac> 3 beta jobr
[00:25] <zvacet> Ice_Max : and you can repartition windows  with ubuntu live Cd but defragment wins few times before
[00:25] <newbyx86> Yeah. When I get to college, I'll probably tunnel everything through a SSH tunnel.
[00:25] <newbyx86> Anything "fun" of course. :P
[00:25] <jomanc> genii: okay, that allowed me to run alacarte without sudo, but the right clicking on Applications -> Edit Menu still doesnt work
[00:25] <Ice_Max> zvacet, I've being using a Live Cd for the past few weeks, and i wanna jump into a hard drive installed ubuntu
[00:25] <dynamethod> well i like to cause then i can work on my linux box instead of these winblowse machines, i cant do jack on these, even mysql on windows is a pain :S
[00:25] <genii> jomanc: No idea offhand on that one
[00:26] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, have you tried: mv .mozilla .mozilla-bak
[00:26] <Bubble_tea> Where can i report error
[00:26] <jomanc> ack
[00:26] <Bubble_tea> on firefox 2
[00:26] <Jaffarkelshac> i was just about to try that jobr
[00:26] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, Just to see whats happens?
[00:26] <Bubble_tea> it keep on closing
[00:26] <CorbinFox> is there a linux equivalent to Windows Movie Maker?  Just something simple like that
[00:26] <Jaffarkelshac> yep jobr
[00:26] <zvacet> Ice_Max : http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/  it is described how to do it
[00:26] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, :)
[00:26] <genii> jomanc: For future reference, never use sudo for graphical applications, always gksu/gksudo in gnome or kdesu/kdesudo in kde
[00:27] <Ice_Max> zvacet:, k, ill go defrag a few times in windows. what would i use on the Live Cd to repartition the hard drive
[00:27] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, report back plase i am excited
[00:27] <quailman> Jack_Sparrow, jobr, marcus_ rebooted and looks like upgrade worked just fine. Thanks again for the help
[00:27] <Pyranha_> hey i am having trouble getting album covers from rhythmbox to my Ipod nano anyideas?
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> quailman glad to help
[00:27] <B_166-ER-X> help : on gutsy : I cannot find how to change 'Associations' i want MMS links to open with mplayer, but it keeps trying to open with Totem.     Please.. !
[00:27] <jomanc> genii: why?
[00:27] <jomanc> is gksudo doing something different?
[00:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo
[00:28] <zvacet> Ice_Max : look link I give to you and on that page look for install desktop and windows
[00:28] <jomanc> ah thanks
[00:28] <zvacet> Ice_Max : dual boot windows and Ubuntu
[00:28] <Jaffarkelshac> well the changes with the new .mozilla stay, jobr i just need to export passwords and bookmarks and add ons
[00:28] <jobr> quailman: i dont know the problem, but i would be glad to help
[00:28] <Ice_Max> zvacet: ah, didnt see hte link
[00:28] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: I'll have to remember to feed you more cookies ;)
[00:28] <sensae> How can I get KitchenSync to work with Kontact?
[00:28] <zvacet> Ice_Max : np
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> genii :)
[00:29] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, sucks... but... yeah... beta software you know :)  where are from btw?
[00:29] <sileni> how would i go about installing and setting up amoarok in ubuntu guys :)
[00:29] <Jaffarkelshac> london jobr
[00:29] <Shak-> hey folks, it seems gmail chat (the web interface) is tying up my audio so I can't play any mp3s/video while its open, is there a way to get around this?
[00:29] <jomanc> genii: thanks, and have a good evening
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !info amarok
[00:30] <sileni> well
[00:30] <sileni> i dont have kde
[00:30] <sileni> im running Gnome
[00:30] <sileni> would that matter?
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> sileni sudo apt-get install amarok
[00:30] <FloodBot1> sileni: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:30] <Miller> Hi - I'm having a problem with Ubuntu 8.04 not auto-mounting my USB - this seems to be a common problem, but i have been unable to find a solution. Any help would be much appreciated.
[00:30] <electroman87> what is super user mode??
[00:30] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, Hallo London - Copenhagen is calling
[00:30] <zvacet> sileni :no
[00:30] <B_166-ER-X> help : on gutsy : I cannot find how to change 'Associations' i want MMS links to open with mplayer, but it keeps trying to open with Totem.     Please.. !
[00:30] <electroman87> super user acess
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> sileni no you can use kde apps in gnome and the other way round
[00:30] <sileni> oh ok thank you guys
[00:30] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, i am going to queen university on yeah from now... :)
[00:30] <B_166-ER-X> I really cant find anything working
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo | electroman87
[00:31] <Jaffarkelshac> the queen university here? jobr or is there one in denmark
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo | electroman87
[00:32] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, Queen Mary, University of London.. on exchange
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> B_166-ER-X system pref.. prefered apps
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> jobr !ot
[00:33] <daves111> can't save localhost file; says don't have permissions necessary - how do I get them?
[00:33] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, I am study international law... And you have some very.... known professors
[00:33] <Jaffarkelshac> i am in Brunel in uxbridge jobr engineering
[00:33] <jobr> Jack_Sparrow, !ot?
[00:33] <B_166-ER-X> Jack_Sparrow In 'multimedia' , Rhytmbox is selected...so its not mplayer or Totem...yet... st
[00:33] <CorbinFox> is there a linux equivalent to Windows Movie Maker?  Just something simple like that?
[00:33] <B_166-ER-X> still plays with totem
[00:33] <Jaffarkelshac> probably offtopic
[00:33] <jobr> Jack_Sparrow, What do !ot means
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | jobr
[00:34] <zvacet> daves111 : edit fole with sudo like sudo gedit /path/to/file
[00:34] <mOrO^> How can I make gnome file manager list the files instead of making icons...in all my directories?
[00:34] <ice101> can someone tell me where to get "linux class library"
[00:34] <ice101> lcl
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> zvacet Please dont suggest sudo gedit...   instead offer up gksudo gedit
[00:34] <jobr> Jack_Sparrow, I see... sorry... I willl
[00:34] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[00:34] <daves111> zvacet: i did but now the getedit that i had open says the above
[00:34] <jobr> Jack_Sparrow, stick to the topic
[00:35] <Ice_Max> thanks for that link zvacet, i totally overlooked the obvious partition editor when looking in the menus :p
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> jobr Sorry, I will try to do better
[00:35] <ice101> can someone tell me where to get linux class library
[00:35] <Genius314> I enabled a plugin in Compiz-Fusion, but now I can't login to a normal session. Is there a way to disable this plugin, or compiz, from starting when I log in, from the terminal?
[00:35] <B_166-ER-X> Jack_Sparrow I changed it for mplayer there, still trying with Totem (i'm even sur that i uninstalled it !)
[00:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !compile
[00:35] <zvacet> Jack_Sparrow : i don´t know which file he want to open but you are right
[00:36] <Shak-> what do I have to install to play embedded quicktime movies in firefox?
[00:36] <jobr> Jack_Sparrow, Hard guys show theremuscles :p
[00:36] <zvacet> Ice_Max : welcome to ubuntu
[00:36] <mOrO^> oops, sorry...figured it out.
[00:37] <daves111> bye ... thanks guys
[00:37] <Genius314> Can I disable Fusion-Icon from starting up at login, from the terminal?
[00:39] <Rampage> newbyx86: you around
[00:39] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo Please dont use with gui apps
[00:40] <emma> You should use gksudo with gui applications. For example gksudo gedit <filename>
[00:41] <B_166-ER-X> !Make so MMS links open with mplayer or gmplayer instead of $/?%% totem .
[00:41] <Shak-> what plugin do I need to play embedded quicktime in firefox? I tried mozilla-mplayer and mozilla-vlc but neither did the trick (I'm on hardy 8.04)
[00:41] <jobr> Jack_Sparrow, emma why use sudo for any app, whats the problem
[00:41] <emma> Jack_Sparrow: to edit ubottu you should be logged in to it and then use this syntax !factoid is <reply>whatever it is here.
[00:41] <andre> hey guys, Where did the openssh-server package go?
[00:41] <zvacet> CorbinFox : http://www.osalt.com/movie-maker
[00:42] <crdlb> Genius314: use the failsafe gnome session at the login screen
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> emma thanks.. got it
[00:42] <emma> jobr - it temporarily gives you super-user privliges, which are not privlidges you want to necessarily be going around with at all times. It minizes the possibility of harming your system unintentially if you have to make a concious choice to become the super-user.
[00:42] <Jack_Sparrow> jobr there are times you need super priv to get something done
[00:42] <Genius314> crdlb: failsafe also didn't work... it still loaded Compiz for some reason. I'm using the terminal login option.
[00:43] <andre> !askthebot hello?
[00:43] <crdlb> Genius314: remove it from ~/.config/autostart/ then
[00:43] <andre> !askthebot hehe, sorry.
[00:43] <CorbinFox> zvacet: thank you
[00:43] <zvacet> CorbinFox : np
[00:43] <Starnestommy> akahige: !askthebot does not work
[00:43] <andre> !askthebot help
[00:43] <Uchuujin> HELLO
[00:43] <Uchuujin> YOUR DISTRO SUCKS
[00:43] <Uchuujin> THX
[00:43] <FloodBot1> Uchuujin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:43] <Jaffarkelshac> anyone know how to export firefox passwords
[00:44] <Ursinha> there are plenty of idiots in this world :/
[00:44] <jobr> jack-desktop, emma i know... but it was more a quation... if you used it permenent... there are solutions
[00:44] <sensae> Well if no one knows about KitchenSync. I've got Compiz running on KDE and can't change from 2 virtual desktops
[00:44] <andre> hey guys, Where did the openssh-server package go?
[00:44] <Ice_Max> zvacet: in that guide you sent me, i have one large partition, and a small 8MB unallocated partition. however, the guide shows only one partition. and further down in the install options, the guide shows a resize guided install, and i dont have that...
[00:45] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2848
[00:45] <jobr> Jaffarkelshac, Mabye this can help
[00:45] <Genius314> crdlb: Thanks. I knew that had to be somewhere... I just couldn't find it.
[00:45] <akahige> may have hosed myself... was trying to work out some smb issues and changed my uid in /etc/passwd... now I can't sudo because it's looking for the old uid... which means I can't change it back... what did I just do to myself...?
[00:45] <zvacet> Ice_Max : wait a min,please
[00:45] <emma> jobr: it is not recommended that you use it permanently. By default when you use sudo you are asked for your password and it will remain in effect for some fixed period of time before reverting back to normal user level.
[00:45] <Ice_Max> sure
[00:45] <Jaffarkelshac> hope so jobr
[00:45] <jobr> emma, thanks i know.. plaese :)
[00:46] <emma> jobr: okay. What is your question then? :)
[00:46] <Jack_Sparrow> emma 15 minutes is what I believe to be the default
[00:46] <zvacet>  Ice_Max: Hardy Heron / Windows XP Graphical Installation 'A'
[00:46] <Jordan_U2> electroman87, Did you get VPN client working?
[00:47] <Ice_Max> zvacet: i can give ya screen shots if ya need it
[00:47] <damouse> hm
[00:47] <iateshaggy> why does linux hang up during booting after i install nvidia drivers?
[00:47] <Ice_Max> yeah im using A
[00:48] <Bubble_tea> I've installed Ubuntu-studio  desktop and I'm running it now ... I have question I updated! by accident would it affect anything when i restart my computer?????
[00:48] <zvacet> Ice_Max : just time and patience and everything will be O.K. use manual way
[00:48] <andre> Thanks for the help Everyone...  Less Corporate, more community :)
[00:48] <Bubble_tea> any1
[00:48] <Ice_Max> zvacet: ok, ill use manual
[00:49] <jobr> emma, i did not have a quations.. i was just trying to help the conversations
[00:49] <Ice_Max> zvacet: quick qustion about my partition in gparted: it  has a set of keys next to the partition name, is that ok?
[00:49] <click170> Does anyone know how to run a VMWare virtual machine from the command line, so that it could be done at boot?
[00:49] <jtaylor13> run a nivida driver by terminal and is says i have to run as root.i did sudo before i ran the file.what else do i have to do?
[00:50] <jtaylor13> group: i run a nivida driver by terminal and is says i have to run as root.i did sudo before i ran the file.what else do i have to do?
[00:50] <joanki123> anyone know how i can get lesstif?
[00:50] <iateshaggy> jtaylor13, u trying to install a driver from nvidia website?
[00:50] <Jack_Sparrow> jtaylor13 Did they tell you to stop x?  I understand there is a new installer script avail at nvidia.. I have not seen nor tried it
[00:51] <jtaylor13> group: i downloaded it from there site and trying to install it.
[00:51] <zvacet>  Ice_Max : http://www.howtoforge.com/the-perfect-desktop-ubuntu-8.04-lts-hardy-heron
[00:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !find lesstif
[00:51] <iateshaggy> jtaylor13, i jsut went through that
[00:52] <jtaylor13> group:here is the problem accer pc will let me use the nivida driver for kde desktop.BUT when i but into gnome i get input not supported.
[00:53] <iateshaggy> i'd paysomeone if they could get my nvidia card to work
[00:53] <prakriti> is there any point in trying to get old loki games to work on ubuntu?
[00:54] <|Juan|> help here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[00:54] <prakriti> I have heritic II and heavy metal fakk2
[00:55] <curb> Help: Can anyone give me a hand here? I installed Slack12.1 without Lilo and am trying to get my GRUB to display the Slack boot. Im told I need to find the /extra/grub but Im not sure how to go about that? Any suggestions?
[00:56] <joanki123> can anyone tell me where the file is i would need to access to change cmd prompt?
[00:56] <prakriti> for everybody or just your user?
[00:56] <Chunky_Ks> Heya, all. I've just install ubuntu and am trying to get my ATI graphics card working right. I haave it enabled [and ran aticonfig --initial=dual-head --screen-layout=left
[00:57] <Chunky_Ks> but now the window manager isn't starting
[00:57] <tobberoth> I need to convert a gzipped text file from EUC-JP to UTF-8... is there some way to do this? I have heard of something called iconv but I don't understand how it's used
[00:57] <Jack_Sparrow> curb Yes, I suggest you find the slackware room
[00:57] <Chunky_Ks> and I have two screens, rather than a single large screen
[00:57] <Chunky_Ks> ie :0.1 and :0.0
[00:57] <zvacet> see you
[00:57] <curb> Jack_Sparrow: Good suggestion, Im in both rooms. I find the Ubuntu community much more helpful, especially considering the fact I'm on Ubuntu now.
[00:57] <kanrra> que onda
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> curb We dont support slackware or lilo
[00:58] <kanrra> quien anda por ahi
[00:58] <Jack_Sparrow> !br
[00:58] <curb> Jack_Sparrow: Im not using Lilo. Im using GRUB. And I dont see the problem with getting assitance dual-booting Slack/Ubuntu
[00:59] <kanrra> como como no puedo hablar en español
[00:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !es
[00:59] <kanrra> ok gracias
[00:59] <iiinc> Hello - which Debian release forms the base for Hardy?
[00:59] <Ice_Max> i think i broke my xp partition
[01:00] <BCM43> Ice_Max: how so?
[01:00] <Ice_Max> i clicked unmount by msitake in the partitino manager
[01:00] <Ice_Max> and now it has a caution sign next to it
[01:00] <Ice_Max> and it does tell me how much free and sued space i have
[01:00] <Ice_Max> *used
[01:01] <BCM43> Ice_Max: did you go on with the partitiona/
[01:01] <Ice_Max> what?
[01:01] <BCM43> Ice_Max: did you go on with the partition?
[01:01] <Ice_Max> as in try and boot xp?
[01:01] <BCM43> Ice_Max: this is in ubuntu?
[01:01] <Ice_Max> btw im running of a LVie CD ATM
[01:01] <Tann> Hello
[01:01] <BCM43> hi Tann
[01:01] <Ice_Max> yeah, im running a 8.04 ubuntu live CD
[01:02] <BCM43> Ice_Max: did you install?
[01:02] <Ice_Max> nope
[01:02] <Tann> What package(s) do I uninstall to remove Kubuntu KDE3?
[01:02] <joanki123> can anyone tell me where the file is i would need to access to change cmd prompt?
[01:02] <BCM43> Ice_Max: it should not have done anything
[01:02] <Ice_Max> ok
[01:02] <Ice_Max> i can still acess my files on the drive right now
[01:02] <BCM43> Tann: to upgrade or unistall compleately, and do you have gnome?
[01:03] <Tann> BCM43: I have gnome kde4 and kde3. I want to get rid of KDE3
[01:03] <yell0w> Tann: kubuntu-desktop
[01:04] <frinkahedron> Is the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list the only proper place to submit a feature request for a specific package?
[01:04] <|Juan|> help here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[01:04] <Bhavesh> woohoo
[01:04] <Bhavesh> i got my nick id'ed
[01:05] <BCM43> Tann: do you have gnome installed?
[01:05] <Tann> BCM43: Yes
[01:05] <Ice_Max> BCM: im trying to install ubuntu onto the partition, but it wont let me edit it
[01:05] <Demon> Hi
[01:06] <BCM43> Ice_Max: hmm, try booting the windows partion to see if it is ok
[01:06] <BCM43> Hi Demon
[01:06] <Ice_Max> ok
[01:06] <Decepticon> anybody have a wireless pci card they want to sell me?
[01:06] <Demon> I have just downloaded Ubuntu 8.04 and burned it to a brand new CD-R, but it doesnt work! It gets to the menu where i can choose to install/try Ubuntu
[01:06] <Demon> then
[01:06] <Ice_Max> ill reboot on rejoin in XP if everythig is ok
[01:06] <BCM43> Decepticon: this is not the place for that
[01:06] <xzedn> how do i put two commands on one line?
[01:06] <Decepticon> ah, sorry
[01:07] <Demon> when I choose either try or install it just goes to text-based linux!
[01:07] <Demon> says "BusyBox" blah blah..
[01:07] <Decepticon> xzedn command1 && command2
[01:07] <BCM43> xzedn: ;
[01:07] <xzedn> thanks
[01:07] <xzedn> ; didn't work earlier
[01:07] <hosified> or try |
[01:08] <xzedn> what i was trying to do works now
[01:08] <xzedn> thanks
[01:08] <BCM43> xzedn: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=715467
[01:09] <Demon> Anyone see my message...?
[01:09] <xzedn> yes
[01:09] <prabakaran> wats bout tat demon ?
[01:09] <BCM43> Demon: im still confused
[01:09] <Demon> I have successfully installed older versions of Ubuntu on the same machine
[01:09] <xzedn> Demon: Did you download the livecd?
[01:09] <BCM43> xzedn: he did
[01:10] <Demon> But this one just presents me with "BusyBox"
[01:10] <xzedn> busybox is a light weight alternative to a lot of gnu stuff
[01:10] <xzedn> i didn't know that came with ubuntu
[01:10] <Demon> "Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition"
[01:10] <Demon> "64bit AMD and Intel computers"
[01:10] <Demon> I have Athlon 64 X2
[01:10] <BCM43> Demon http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411399
[01:11] <Demon> And I have used 64-bit before so that is not the problem
[01:11] <BCM43> !enter | Demon
[01:11] <Demon> Well it that screen, but it is a "perfectly working" BusyBox
[01:11] <battleroyale> I have a macbook and I'm using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook, but it says "Note that Boot Camp will cause problems if you make more than two partitions in total.". Do I not need to create a swap partition then?
[01:12] <genii> xzedn: It will dump you to busybox in certain situations like no initrd or so
[01:12] <supercom32> Hey, is anyone in that might be able to help me with an Ubuntu USB question?
[01:12] <xzedn> genii: that's interesting
[01:12] <BCM43> battleroyale: swap partitions do not count, but ubuntu will do that for you
[01:12] <battleroyale> BCM43: I don't have to create one, it's included?
[01:12] <Demon> But there is no error at all
[01:12] <BCM43> battleroyale: yes
[01:12] <Ice_Max> BCM43: good news, Windows is a ok
[01:12] <battleroyale> ok, thank you
[01:13] <genii> Demon: You are installing from a sata cd drive?
[01:13] <BCM43> Demon: i know, follow the instructions
[01:13] <Demon> No it is an IDE drive
[01:13] <BCM43> Ice_Max: ok, try booing ubuntu again
[01:13] <Ice_Max> ok
[01:13] <Demon> Like I said, I have used ubuntu before.
[01:13] <supercom32> I configured my Ubuntu USB pendrive exactly the way I want it. Is there a way make it non-persistent from this point on? If not to prevent changes, to save the life of the flash media?
[01:14] <BCM43> Demon: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/129817 how about this?
[01:14] <SonicComKid> I have another newbie question... how do I stop X server so that I can install Nvidia drivers?
[01:14] <HappyHater> is there a way I can get gnome to show multiple rows of icons in the system tray like kde does?
[01:14] <genii> SonicComKid: Logout. Then choose Console as session type
[01:15] <prabakaran> where can i get d kde ?
[01:15] <BCM43> SonicComKid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304325 google ;)
[01:15] <SonicComKid> oh.. I just tried ctrl alt F2
[01:15] <BCM43> prabakaran: sudo aptitude install kubuntu desktop
[01:15] <cyndre> how hard is it to move my installation to its own hard drive?
[01:16] <illsci> i just upgraded to firefox3 and the websites aren't displaying properly... all the text is huge and munged together
[01:16] <genii> SonicComKid: Use alt-f7 to get back to gui, logout, choose Console Login, login, do the nvidia install, type exit to leave back to gdm
[01:16] <illsci> im sure this is a known issue...
[01:16] <illsci> can someone point me in the direction of how to fix it
[01:16] <prabakaran> bcm : from where ?
[01:16] <Nanoer> hey i'm installing hardy and i'm a bit confused. When I install it I have a windows partition of 20GB and free space of 130GB. I want to install ubuntu on the free space without touching windows? How exactly do I do this?
[01:16] <SonicComKid> okay
[01:16] <ingo__> hallo all! how can i delete my current default kernel and make the second one my default again? (grub ...)
[01:16] <BCM43> prabakaran: put that in terminal
[01:16] <SonicComKid> nope.. still have the same error
[01:17] <jimcooncat_> Is there any such thing as a secure personal keystroke logger? My gf keeps losing her blog posts when she submits.
[01:17] <BCM43> SonicComKid: you tried my link?
[01:17] <SonicComKid> Error: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing
[01:17] <prabakaran> terminal ? can u xplain ?
[01:17] <BCM43> jimcooncat_: lol, ill link
[01:17] <BCM43> jimcooncat_: lol, ill check
[01:17] <SonicComKid> I'll try what's in the URL
[01:17] <Ice_Max> BCM43: seems to have started up from the Live Cd ok, but i got an error message
[01:18] <BCM43> Ice_Max: what error?
[01:18] <BCM43> prabakaran: wow, you are new
[01:18] <Ice_Max> want a SS or u want me to jsut apste the txt?
[01:18] <genii> jimcooncat_: Better to make them in some editor then copy/paste into the blog site. Otherwise a lot of them timeout while ppl are composing their manifestos, etc
[01:18] <prabakaran> yes bcm
[01:18] <SonicComKid> that worked, thanks
[01:18] <BCM43> !terminal | prabakaran
[01:18] <cyndre> I have ubuntu installed inside of windows - need to move it to its own hard drive.  Anyone know of any good tutorials on how to do this
[01:19] <supercom32> I configured my Ubuntu USB pendrive exactly the way I want it. Is there a way make it non-persistent from this point on? If not to prevent changes, to save the life of the flash media?
[01:19] <Demon> Has anyone here managed to run Visual Basic 6 on Ubuntu via WINE?
[01:19] <jimcooncat_> genii, yes, I tried that, too complex for her usage.
[01:19] <SonicComKid> "No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; would you like the installer to attempt to download a kernel interface for your kernel from the NVIDIA ftp site?"  should I?
[01:19] <ingo__> how can i delete my current default kernel and make the second one my default again? (grub ...)
[01:20] <Demon> Hey you are trying to get NVIDIA Drivers? I tried that same thing and it didnt work.
[01:20] <cyndre> Demon, it was simple
[01:20] <jimcooncat_> a tee program to a textbox would be great
[01:20] <supercom32> I configured my Ubuntu USB pendrive exactly the way I want it. Is there a way make it non-persistent from this point on? If not to prevent changes, to save the life of the flash media?
[01:20] <SonicComKid> I'm trying to get NVIDIA drivers for my graphics card. I downloaded the Linux 64bit version (I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 64bit)
[01:20] <crdlb> SonicComKid: why aren't you using system > administration > hardware drivers ?
[01:20] <cyndre> I enabled extra effects under system, pref, appearance and they asked me to install them
[01:21] <Demon> Ah, I don't think 64 bit Linux drivers exists
[01:21] <genii> ingo__: just sudo aptitude/apt-get remove it, grub will adjust itself
[01:21] <Demon> I believe that was the problem I had before
[01:21] <SonicComKid> crdlb, it offers drivers, but it doesn't even specify if it's the newest or even for my card
[01:21] <BCM43> jimcooncat_: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Security/Simple-Python-Keylogger-37085.shtml
[01:21] <crdlb> SonicComKid: it is
[01:21] <Bhavesh> YAY.. the computer is booting without kernal panic
[01:21] <Ice_Max> BCM43:http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u277/Ice_Max/Screenshot-x-session-manager.png
[01:21] <crdlb> Demon: nvidia does offer 64bit drivers
[01:21] <SonicComKid> it only shows graphics card too.. why doesn't it do the same for sound drivers and the like?
[01:21] <crdlb> SonicComKid: because sound drivers are not proprietary
[01:22] <Demon> Will they allow me to play Counter-Strike: Source properly via WINE?
[01:22] <crdlb> nvidia's driver is a closed-source blob
[01:22] <randomshadowbmg> ntfs partition wont boot on boot for me
[01:22] <SonicComKid> you sure the one on the thing there is the best driver as opposed to the one on the Nivida site?
[01:22] <Demon> I ran it before and all the text was garbled
[01:22] <BCM43> Ice_Max: that is after doing what?
[01:22] <Bhavesh> dmraid or other raid software?
[01:22] <jimcooncat> very nice BCM43, I should be able to make a zenity script from that
[01:22] <Ice_Max> it poped up right when it was loading the desktop
 sudo apt-get remove <kernelname> ???
[01:22] <crdlb> SonicComKid: it's the same driver, but installing the driver from nvidia's site is very messy and can often fail
[01:22] <BCM43> jimcooncat_: sarcasm>
[01:22] <SonicComKid> ...okay..
[01:22] <BCM43> jimcooncat_: sarcasm?
[01:22] <BCM43> !tab | ingo__
[01:23] <crdlb> SonicComKid: unless you have a 9800 or something in which case you'd need a beta driver
[01:23] <jimcooncat_> BCM43: no, actually serious :-)
[01:23] <Bhavesh> ingo__ my advice is not to remove old knernel, just add the new one in your boot manager, keep the old one for backup if something fails with new kernel
[01:23] <SonicComKid> I have 7950
[01:23] <BCM43> jimcooncat_: ok
[01:23] <fbc> Is there any way to change the default character set? Everytime I extract a text file from a zip it comes in iso-18859-15 I would prefer UTF-8.
[01:23] <crdlb> SonicComKid: that's fine then
[01:24] <SonicComKid> okay..
[01:24] <cyndre> anyone know how to move my ubuntu installation to a new hard drive?
[01:24] <Ice_Max> BCm: should i try and install ubuntu anyway?
[01:24] <genii> ingo__: Find the running version. eg:  uname -r      then: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-<whatever uname -r reported here>
[01:25] <Nanoer> what's the difference between formatting a partition with ext2 or ext3?
[01:25] <genii> ingo__: When it cleans up grun and removes the entry, the previous one becomes first to be loaded again
[01:25] <jimcooncat> BCM43: I guess I was kidding -- way more code than I want to audit!
[01:25] <supercom32> I configured my Ubuntu USB pendrive exactly the way I want it. Is there a way make it non-persistent from this point on? If not to prevent changes, to save the life of the flash media?
[01:25] <genii> grun->grub
[01:25] <BCM43> jimcooncat_: hold on a sec
 ahh, ok - thats what i want - thank you :-)
[01:26] <genii> supercom32: Toggle the little read-only switch on the media card
[01:26] <BCM43> jimcooncat_: try this http://sourceforge.net/projects/lkl/
[01:26] <Bhavesh> Nanoer two different type of file systems.. ext3 is upgrade to ext2 which provides journal, so if system crashes, you have less chance of losing files
[01:26] <BCM43> supercom32: you could back it up?
[01:26] <Nanoer> Bhavesh: Is there any disadvantages to using ext3 over ext2?
[01:26] <supercom32> Genii: Will that cause Ubuntu to stop running when it can't write to the media it expects to be writable?
[01:27] <BCM43> supercom32: it should just tell you
[01:27] <Bhavesh> Nanoer none that i know of, others may have more info, but one ADVANTAGE of ext3 is that if you need to, you can mount it as ext2 file system
[01:27] <genii> supercom32: If you have a swap file on there perhaps
[01:27] <Chunky_Ks> "Is there any disadvantages to using ext3 over ext2?" No. Use ext3.
[01:27] <supercom32> BCM43 I could back it up, but I'm actually thinking about saving the life of the media.
[01:27] <Nanoer> Bhavesh: Ah okay thanks :)
[01:27] <Chunky_Ks> Do not use ext2, ext2 needs to die already.
[01:27] <Bhavesh> Nanoer u r welcome
[01:27] <prabakaran> hello
[01:27] <supercom32> genii For swap, how do you specify something else? Perhaps make a ramdisk?
[01:27] <Bhavesh> this helping people out is pretty cool :)
[01:27] <BCM43> supercom32: there is nothing you can do that i know of
[01:27] <BCM43> hi prabakaran
[01:27] <prabakaran> i couldnt connect to terminal
[01:27] <Dachha> Hey guys I'm using the Modified Native Driver for Ubuntu for my wireless rtl8187b and I cannot connect to my network. I'm currently using my lan to get on here.
[01:28] <hou5ton> What package should I install to set up my wireless?
[01:28] <genii> supercom32: If ram is no issue and you don't plan to suspend-to-ram thats fine
[01:28] <BCM43> prabakaran: what do you mean connect to terminal?
[01:28] <BCM43> hou5ton: what wireless card?
[01:28] <genii> supercom32: Also hibernate, etc
[01:28] <supercom32> genii Thanks for the suggestion. Is there any tutorials or instructions on how to move the swap to ram disk?
[01:28] <prabakaran> i went to aplication n then clicked d terminal server
[01:28] <hou5ton> BCM43:  it's an external D-Link that worked out of the box on Fiesty
[01:29] <linuxmonkey> !wifi
[01:29] <genii> supercom32: I'll look, one minute
[01:29] <Rampage> prabakaran: what do you want to do?
[01:29] <supercom32> genii Wonderfull. Thanks.
[01:29] <hou5ton> BCM43:  this laptop has an internal card too ... but don't know if it's supported
[01:29] <BCM43> linuxmonkey: that is terrible
[01:29] <prabakaran> kde
[01:29] <BCM43> hou5ton: do lspci and put the result in pastebin
[01:29] <prabakaran> small desktop icons
[01:29] <BCM43> !paste | hou5ton
[01:29] <jimcooncat_> I guess keylogging isn't going to be my answer, maybe I can look at proxies and intercept her "SUBMIT" button. That might be too sneaky though.
[01:30] <Dachha> Hey guys I'm using the Modified Native Driver for Ubuntu for my wireless rtl8187b and I cannot connect to my network. I'm currently using my lan to get on here.
[01:31] <genii> supercom32: Since swap generally gets used when ram runs out I'm not sure what kind of performance you'll get incidentally. Might be bettwe to just disable it if you have 1+ Gb
[01:31] <hou5ton> BCM43:  this is the results withOUT the external card.    http://paste.ubuntu.com/18932/
[01:31] <Bhavesh> nevermind i got happy too quickly
[01:31] <hou5ton> BCM43:  do you want me to do another one WITH the external card inserted now?
[01:32] <BCM43> hou5ton: this page will tell you how to get the internal one working, if you want i can help with the external one too. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[01:32] <supercom32> genii Well ok. My pendrive has no write protect switch. And as you said, yes, swap is used when memory runs out. Is there anything else that can be done perhaps? I see tutorials all over on how to make your live pendrive persistant, but nothing in reverse. Maybe there is a feature which tells the OS not to write changes to disk?
[01:32] <Nanoer> Daccha are you using a toshiba satellite lapatop? If so this may help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571046&page=6
[01:33] <hou5ton> well .... if the internal one will work, that's fine ... it's just that I know the external one did
[01:33] <hou5ton> BCM43:  do you want me to insert it and past the stuff again?
[01:33] <Dachha> Nanoer - Yes I have a Toshiba Satellite A215-S5824
[01:34] <BCM43> hou5ton: instert it and run lsusb
[01:34] <hou5ton> BCM43:  it isn't a usb ... is that what that command is checking for?
[01:34] <arooni-mobile> i'm having trouble booting safe mode for windows xp via f8.... i have vbox (latest from sun) running on ubuntu gutsy gibbon... when i hit f8 during the boot process (for win xp pro) ... nothing happens... i tried with function lock on and off with no results.  ideas?
[01:34] <BCM43> hou5ton: yes, how is it plugged in?
[01:35] <Nanoer> Dachha: apparently you have to force the card to work everytime you boot it
[01:35] <Nanoer> I'm going to try to find more info
[01:35] <BCM43> arooni-mobile: this is ubntu support only, try ##windows
[01:35] <hou5ton> BCM43:  in the slot on the side ....
[01:35] <jobr> Sleep well channel.. :)
[01:35] <BCM43> hou5ton: put it in and try lspci
[01:35] <genii> supercom32: There previously was a method which involved running the casper (livecd image) from another device like thumbdrive etc. If you have a heavily customised version, perhaps consider using something like Ubuntu Customisation Kit which allows you to make a custom install cd. Then use the image from that.
[01:35] <Dachha> Nanoer: Ok thanks for the Link
[01:36] <Nanoer> Dachha: try using these drives: http://www.datanorth.net/~cuervo/rtl8187b/
[01:36] <strtok> hello, after doing an apt-get upgrade ubuntu upgraded the nvidia-glx-new drivers and now I'm getting a "Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module" error
[01:36] <strtok> anyone know?
[01:36] <Dachha> Nanoer: I did the datanorth method and thats where I am now.. Cannot connect to my network. ;-)
[01:36] <supercom32> genii Thanks. I'll look into that.
[01:36] <hou5ton> BCM43:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/18933/
[01:36] <BCM43> strtok: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213409
[01:36] <Chunky_Ks> how do I get apt-get to install suggested and recommended applications when I use apt-get install {package} ?
[01:37] <Dachha> Nanoer: Do you know how to do the Force Card does it go in your rc.local?
[01:37] <Nanoer> Dachha: Nope. Sorry.
[01:38] <SeanL9941> so here i am again, all defraged out, did windows style and offline style... and i put the disc in , select install and i get an error Start-stop-daemon: Unable to start /usr/sbin/cron: input/output error (input/output error)
[01:38] <Dachha> Nanoer: K thanks for the help
[01:38] <Nanoer> Dachha: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571046&page=13 Post #122
[01:38] <SeanL9941> its an importerror...
[01:39] <SeanL9941> guess i should have gone for 'alternative cd'?
[01:39] <genii> supercom32: Some references to get you started: http://uck.sourceforge.net/     and an older but relevant tutorial using casper image transplant http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610/
[01:39] <strtok> BCM43: that article is from 2006?
[01:40] <SeanL9941> Rampage u got any insight on this?
[01:40] <BCM43> strtok: it is being updated all the time, post your results on the forum tread
[01:40] <strtok> BCM43: it was working perfectly previous to ubuntu upgrading stuff
[01:40] <Rampage> sorry what SeanL9941
[01:40] <Ice_Max> wow, connecting to a remote external drive on a windows machine was a lot eaier in ubuntu than it is in XP
[01:40] <cypha> i have 2 problems...1. somehow there are now 2 Ubuntu's in GRUB (besides the recovery one)
[01:40] <BCM43> strtok: ok, still use th link
[01:40] <SeanL9941> i am getting this error Start-stop-daemon: Unable to start /usr/sbin/cron: input/output error (input/output error)
[01:40] <Rampage> when is this SeanL9941 , before it installs?
[01:41] <SeanL9941> like before when i would click on 'try" i clicked on install this time and i get that after the ubuntu orange bar goes accross
[01:41] <SeanL9941> i get a 2 Fail's and 3 OK's
[01:41] <Ice_Max> i've decided to reformat my whole hard drive, and set up the partition from scratch. what would be the best method of execution if i wnated to dual boot XP and ubuntu?
[01:41] <Rampage> SeanL9941: try install it, and shrink the windows partition (after selecting manual partitioning) create a partition for ubuntu and see if that works
[01:42] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: Install XP first
[01:42] <genuser> hello people
[01:42] <SeanL9941> Rampage, i clicked install it, then iget the loading bar, then i get text on screen with errors
[01:42] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: You can do all that stuff within the XP install --- just dont format the space for ubuntu
[01:42] <Rampage> not sure what cron job would be running on the live cd
[01:42] <BCM43> strtok: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=722798 look though this, might help
[01:42] <BCM43> hi genuser
[01:42] <SeanL9941> its the full cd
[01:42] <Ice_Max> cpudan80:ok, and jsut leave an empty partition for ubuntu?
[01:42] <Rampage> SeanL9941: thats strange, what sort of errors?
[01:42] <genuser> having issue running jack, rosegarden, MIDI doesn't sound. DSSI plugins make sound. Stop jack, restart rosegarden, midi plays fine. not thru rosegarden.
[01:42] <BCM43> SeanL9941: try alternitive
[01:42] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: Right - do not format it - the installer will show it as unpartitioned space IIRC
[01:43] <SeanL9941> dang, another 6 mins and a cdr wasted...lol alright
[01:43] <Ice_Max> sounds good
[01:43] <BCM43> !prefix
[01:43] <SeanL9941> Rampage ,: it just says Start-stop-daemon: Unable to start /usr/sbin/cron: input/output error (input/output error)
[01:43] <Rampage> SeanL9941: try an alternative iso, and burn it at a slower speed (not the max of the burner)
[01:43] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: in the XP installer - it will ask you how big (in MB) to make a partition, make say half the MBs for XP and just leave the rest alone
[01:43] <SeanL9941> Rampage i mean its a screen full of jibberish but thats the one that failed
[01:43] <Ice_Max> the current partition doesnt seem to want to be edited
[01:43] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: Install XP on the first partition
[01:43] <SeanL9941> alright gonna get the alternative disc
[01:44] <Rampage> SeanL9941: cool
[01:44] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: Could be that it is locked - something like gparted can help you unlock it
[01:44] <hou5ton> BCM43:  sorry .... system locked up
[01:44] <killux> hey is there a way to remove all the gnome panels in gusty?
[01:44] <Ice_Max> cpudan: i still plan on using XP as my main OS, since i rely heavily on adobe programs and gaming
[01:44] <BCM43> hou5ton: ok, i just forgot you problem
[01:44] <killux> I am using awn
[01:44] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: right
[01:44] <hou5ton> BCM43:  any thoughts on that external card?
[01:44] <Ice_Max> both of which are things that linux doesn't seem ot do well :(
[01:44] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: If you have modern rig - XP will fail to detect the HDDs because they use SATA
[01:44] <BCM43> Ice_Max: linux has great adobe alternitives
[01:45] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: Do you have a floppy drive?
[01:45] <BCM43> hou5ton: nope, sorry
[01:45] <Cpudan80> In the machine you plan on installing XP on
[01:45] <Ice_Max> cpudan: would build a Pc without one :)
[01:45] <Ice_Max> *wouldn't
[01:45] <Cpudan80> lol ok good
[01:46] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: So go download the SATA drivers from your mobo site ahead of time - and in the XP install it will say like "Press F<something> to load 3rd party drivers" -- do that and follow the steps
[01:46] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: join ##windows if you need more help though, as that is outside the scope of ubuntu (Im in there too)
[01:46] <Ice_Max> cpudan: why would i need to do that? ive had no problem installing XP before on this machine
[01:47] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: Are your HDDs IDE or SATA ?
[01:47] <jamisnemo> I'm trying to use the network boot/network install method to install ubuntu but I keep hitting failures when the installer is being downloaded. It always fails when loading libntfs-3g23-udeb
[01:47] <Ice_Max> i only have 1 sata HDD
[01:47] <BlueLaguna> I've been having a problem with Firefox crashing and taking the sound with it.  Is there any way to at least prevent it from blocking the sound device?
[01:47] <jamisnemo> How do I go about finnishing the install?
[01:47] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: Is your XP CD a plain OEM or some dell version ?
[01:47] <Ice_Max> OEM SP2
[01:47] <Ice_Max> i bought it with my parts 2 yrs ago
[01:47] <tzone> can anyone point me in the right direction for a problem i'm having with nautilus running under 7.10... whenever i plug in my flash drive, every access to the drive takes 30-60 seconds... this doesn't happen from the shell... and it didn't happen up until recently
[01:48] <tzone> ?
[01:48] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: It's possible that you haven't turned on SATA in the BIOS
[01:48] <Rampage> jamisnemo: what>
[01:48] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: the default mode for most BIOS is to act like IDE
[01:48] <pub> woah
[01:48] <pub> theres a ton of dockapps
[01:48] <pub> haha
[01:48] <Rampage> jamisnemo: finishing what install?
[01:49] <Ice_Max> hm, il lgo heck my BIOS once this file transfer finishes
[01:49] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: Since you are starting over from scratch, I'd recommend enabling the setting
[01:49] <jamisnemo> Rampage, I'm using the PXE boot image to install ubuntu but it fails with: "Failed to load installer component" and "Loading libntfs-3g23-udeb failed for unknown reasons. Aborting."
[01:49] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: what kind of mobo is it?
[01:49] <mr_flea_> Does anyone have an estimate on when the latest nVidia binary driver (released May 28, 2008) will be added to the repository? I've got a card that's just gotten support under the nVidia driver and really want to try the accelleration out without manually installing the driver...
[01:49] <Ice_Max> an Asus A8n-SLI
[01:50] <Rampage> jamisnemo: seems something wrong with the cd at a guess
[01:50] <jamisnemo> Rampage, I'm not using a cd at all.
[01:50] <Dachha> Anyone know how to force_card anything with this line: force_card=0x8187 this is for my wireless.
[01:51] <nabcore> What determines which number a wirless card interface gets (wlanN) where N is the number?
[01:51] <Rampage> jamisnemo: hmm, not sure, image corrupted in the download or on disk perhaps?
[01:51] <jamisnemo> Rampage, alright I'll try another archive...
[01:51] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: ahh ok - I have a gigabyte board (was going to tell you the setting)
[01:51] <Dachha> nabcore: That is 0 for the first wireless card on up wlan0 wlan1 wlan2 etc
[01:52] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: Its something like SATA mode or something like that -- in the section where you set the advanced things
[01:52] <Ice_Max> cpudan: ill go poke around the BIOs options, haven't been in it for a while
[01:52] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: But if you enable it - you'll need the SATA drivers from your mobo's website --- just put them on a floppy --- its not a big deal for users with FDDs
[01:53] <Dachha> nabcore: wlan0 is for your only wireless if that is the case
[01:53] <Cpudan80> It gets problematic when you have no FDD
[01:53] <nabcore> Dachha; ok I've had a different card in the machine in the past, and now I have a new one. However it gives the new card the interface wlan2; it seems like it may have "rememebered" something of the old one
[01:53] <Ice_Max> would i be able to downlaod them with the lvie Cd right now and put them on a floppy?
[01:53] <Dachha> nabcore: that is way above me right now.. Just getting the lingo down right now. ;-)
[01:54] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: Sure - just mount the flopy and copy the drivers
[01:54] <pub> whats the command to get a dockapp? `sudo apt-get dockapp wmcpuload`?
[01:54] <pub> or is dockapp install
[01:54] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: assuming Asus doesnt do one of those EXE extractor things -- in which case.... :-/
[01:54] <nabcore> Dachha; that's cool, thanks for the pointers tjhough
[01:54] <Dachha> nabcore: I'm sure thats exactly what you said residual drivers
[01:54] <pianoboy3333> Is it possible to do AIM video chatting with linux? How can I?
[01:54] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: If that's the case - let me know -- Im in windows right now, I can send the FDD files
[01:55] <strtok> BCM43: fix was to install the .24 restricted modules (general)
[01:55] <strtok> which ubuntu did not do by default
[01:55] <BCM43> strtok: did it work?
[01:55] <adude> how to i install drivers for my grafics card
[01:55] <BCM43> adude: which graphics card?
[01:55] <strtok> yes
[01:55] <strtok> BCM43: yes, it worked
[01:55] <Ice_Max> cpudan: im a go check and see if i even have any floppys laying around
[01:55] <BCM43> strtok: which one was this?
[01:55] <jamisnemo> Rampage, the install always fails at libntfs-3g23-udeb no matter what archive I use. What does the installer need ntfs stuff for anyways?
[01:55] <maestrojed> I need to change the permissions on a file that is owned by root.  So I try to "sudo" and get the message "sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440".  Any suggestions?
[01:55] <Dachha> Now I'm just looking to find out how I can put this line into a file or something like rc.local so it will run on every startup: force_card=0x8187
[01:56] <strtok> BCM43: nvidia 6600?
[01:56] <BCM43> maestrojed: chown
[01:56] <adude> BCM43: not sure. how do i find out.
[01:56] <maestrojed> BCM43: but the file is correctly owned by root
[01:57] <Ice_Max> cpudan:what am i looknig to downlaod?
[01:57] <BCM43> strtok: ok, confused you from someone else
[01:57] <BCM43> adude: lspci
[01:57] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: something like SATA boot drivers or presetup driver or something like that
[01:57] <Rampage> jamisnemo: hmm, not sure what the problem could be :(
[01:57] <Rampage> jamisnemo: sorry :(
[01:57] <Ice_Max> would it be udner utilites?
[01:58] <BCM43> !paste | adude: put the result in ther
[01:58] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: dont really know
[01:58] <Rampage> jamisnemo: it needs the ntfs stuff if you want to boot windows partitions
[01:58] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: prob under hard disk drive stuff
[01:58] <jamisnemo> Rampage, is there anyway to get around loading that stuff? I don't need it.
[01:58] <Rampage> jamisnemo: no idea :(
[01:59] <|Juan|> help here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[01:59] <fausto> hi guys.. can anyone tell me a c programming channel?
[01:59] <Starnestommy> fausto: ##c
[01:59] <Ice_Max> cpudan:they offer downlaods for: BIOS, BIOS-Utilities, AUDIO, utilities, Others, and Manual
[02:00] <adude> BCM43: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18936/
[02:00] <pianoboy3333> Is it possible to do video chat over AIM in linux? How can I?
[02:00] <SonicComKid> how do you set it so that drives auto-mount every some using the Ubuntu GUI?
[02:00] <chris0101> with k3b i am attempting to burn a .cue/bin file but i get unknown error (code 1) before anything happens. how can i fix this?
[02:00] <Dachha> Hey guys if I cannot connect to a network wirelessly should I ununstall Network Manager and install a different one? If so which one to use? Knetwork?
[02:00] <BCM43> adude: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=275546
[02:01] <Dachha> Cause I can see them with my Network Manager right now
[02:03] <adude> BCM43: thanks
[02:03] <Scunizi> chris0101: google ".cue or bin conversion ubuntu" and you should come up with the name of a program that will convert them to iso for burning.
[02:03] <Scunizi> chris0101: you may even find the program in synaptic package manager.
[02:03] <jamisnemo> Where is the mirror.list file located?
[02:03] <maestrojed> BCM43: what file did you think I should change the owner on?  I can't change it on the file I want to edit because it is owned by root and I can't sudo to gain root access.
[02:04] <BCM43> maestrojed: why cant you use root?
[02:04] <t0}{a> зы
[02:04] <Rampage> maestrojed: the system is messed up then, what did you do to go that
[02:04] <Woyrz> Hi i would need some help to make my sound card work and mount a HD
[02:05] <BCM43> !sound | Woyrz
[02:05] <Rampage> BCM43: i did this yesterday and had some similar trouble, chmod 755 /
[02:05] <maestrojed> BCM43: The only way I know to act as root is to "sudo"  but that returns a message "/etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440"
[02:05] <BCM43> ubottu: where are you?
[02:05] <Rampage> BCM43: what maestrojed is having
[02:05] <will01> anyone know how to set up irkick so that i can start gnome applications with it/
[02:05] <BCM43> ubottu: lag
[02:06] <maestrojed> Rampage: are you talking to me or BCM43, because I am not sure what you are saying
[02:06] <Rampage> maestrojed: what did you do to get the system like this?
[02:06] <danbhfive> maestrojed: have you checked the file?
[02:06] <maestrojed> Rampage: Nothing that I remember
[02:07] <Rampage> maestrojed: I messed my install similarly as i did "chmod 755 /" which i now know is a stupid thing to do
[02:07] <maestrojed> danbhfive: I have, its permissions are 777 and is owned by root.  I tried changing it to 0440 but I can't because I am not root (and now it becomes circular)
[02:07] <Rampage> chmod -R 755 / actually
[02:07] <danbhfive> maestrojed: start in recovery mode
[02:08] <Ice_Max> cpudan: by default, SATA 1 and 3 are set as master drives
[02:08] <danbhfive> maestrojed: another option is to do a clean install.  If you run into more problems, I would do a clean install...
[02:08] <dagonet> i have Asus P5GC-MX installed with Hardy Heron. the problem is attansic L2 ethernet card is not detected. I've red all over the internet, and it seems there are a lot of people have the same problem too. what do u think guys?
[02:08] <Rampage> maestrojed: start in recovery mode login as root and do chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[02:08] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: thats not the right setting - there's a different one
[02:09] <Cpudan80> Ice_Max: Sorry I really cant tell you what it is...
[02:09] <maestrojed> Rampage Danbhfive: Ok thanks, will try
[02:09] <VSpike> Can 7.10 and 8.04 share a /boot partition?
[02:09] <Ice_Max> i don't i understand what the problem will be...
[02:09] <BCM43> maestrojed: Rampage chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[02:09] <nickrud> Is there a way to disable the cts protection, so I don't have cts enabled/disabled messages flooding my syslog
[02:09] <will01> anyone know how to get irkick working with gnome applications?
[02:09] <mr_flea_> VSpike: No. You'll run into problems with the two different apt databases getting confused.
[02:09] <danbhfive> VSpike: why do you have a /boot partition?
[02:09] <nickrud> or better yet, a way to get it enabled
[02:09] <mneptok> Rampage: actually, config files should not have the execute bit set
[02:10] <Ice_Max> cpudan:if i leave a big unpartited space when i install XP, should i be able to put ubuntu right on it after Xp is setup?
[02:10] <mneptok> maestrojed: boot to a live session, mount the internal / partition, and set the correct permissions
[02:10] <VSpike> danbhfive: using lvm2, /boot is in a small ext3 partition
[02:10] <SonicComKid> Can someone please tell me how to unmount a drive using the console, as well how to set auto-mounting of drives?
[02:10] <Rampage> mneptok: yeah, i was really stupid to do "sudo chmod -R 755 /"
[02:10] <maestrojed> BCM43: permission denied (because that file is owned by root, I guess)
[02:10] <Rampage> mneptok: reinstalled the whole OS in the end
[02:10] <BCM43> maestrojed: try with sudo
[02:10] <VSpike> mr_flea_: it's only /boot I'm talking about, not /
[02:10] <nickrud> VSpike actually yes you can, but it's better to have separate boot partitions
[02:10] <mneptok> Rampage: not the non-CoC word i would choose, but i won;t disagree ;)
[02:11] <Rampage> maestrojed: you need to be logged in as root as you can't access sudo
[02:11] <Woyrz> I have a Sound-Blaster X-fi and Ubuntu don't recognize it
[02:11] <Tux> Ok I have manually set the connection on my wife pc for her wireless connection but after reboot I think the key needs to be reset as it is no long there is there a simple place to put this key so when she boots she is connected as I really dont want to give her windows again as ubuntu is way better . any help would rock
[02:11] <nickrud> VSpike they have different kernels, so apt will be controlling it's own installed one(s)
[02:11] <faustovaz83> hi guys
[02:11] <VSpike> nickrud: can
[02:11] <maestrojed> BCM43: When I try it with Sudo I get that sudo message again.
[02:11] <mr_flea_> VSpike: What happens when one installation thinks it's a great idea to install something that's already installed, or when one decides to modify the grub.conf?
[02:11] <nickrud> VSpike can. But no reason to have a /boot partition in ubuntu anyway
[02:12] <Rampage> mneptok: out of curiosity if i did not want users to access any folder but /home/user how can i do that?
[02:12] <VSpike> nickrud: can't the kernel file and initrd be specified in grub?
[02:12] <maestrojed> Rampage: yeah, there is no way to log in as root.  Only sudo.  Unless you use recovery mode or something like that, right?
[02:12] <powertoo108> Woyrz: try disabling your onboard sound in bios if you have it, fixed my sound issues
[02:12] <Rampage> mneptok: as after my last incident i'm wary of recursive chmod
[02:12] <nickrud> mr_flea_ ah, I was thinking of kernels only. You are absolutely right
[02:12] <Woyrz> ok thanks
[02:12] <nickrud> unless only one of them has grub installed
[02:12] <mneptok> Rampage: the default permissions should provide relatively good security
[02:12] <Rampage> maestrojed: ALT CTRL F1 and login as root there
[02:13] <VSpike> nickrud: oh. why not? I was advised to do so by the folks in #lvm
[02:13] <Rampage> mneptok: yeah default perms don't let users edit, but i was thinking maybe if possible not to let the ls /etc for example
[02:13] <nickrud> VSpike for lvm, yes you do need a separate boot.
[02:13] <mr_flea_> VSpike: If you're really careful, though, and manually manage things like grub.conf, you can probably pull it off. Something that automates less of the process of installing things may be a better idea.
[02:13] <mneptok> maestrojed: except that won't work. boot to a live session, mount your internal /, and fix the perms
[02:13] <maestrojed> Rampage: is there a GUI way to do that.  I am connected via VNC and either that command did not work or was not send correctly via VNC (probably the latter)
[02:14] <mneptok> Rampage: security through obscurity is a poor model ;)
[02:14] <maestrojed> mneptok: ok
[02:14] <Rampage> maestrojed: no gui, do what mneptok said
[02:14] <Rampage> maestrojed: it works for me as the first things i do is usually enable the root account
[02:14] <maestrojed> why does /etc/sudoers care that it is 777 instead of 440.  Picky little devil.
[02:14]  * nickrud crosses his fingers at Rampage 
[02:14] <mneptok> maestrojed: you cannot login as root as suggested because by default Ubuntu has no root password, effectively disabling interactive logins for the root user (this is a Good Thing(tm))
[02:15] <mr_flea_> maestrojed: because if it's 777 then anyone can give themselves whatever they want for permissions.
[02:15] <nickrud> maestrojed so it's privately owned by root, and not readable/alterable by any old user
[02:15] <Starnestommy> maestrojed: because that makes it so that anyone can give themself root access via sudo because anyone can edit its config file with 777. 440 prevents all writes and keeps all but root from reading it
[02:15] <mneptok> maestrojed: you are allowed to ask that question again when you send me a picture of your sister and your car keys. ;)
[02:16] <Rampage> nickrud: only as a precaution if i ever need to use the root account, and initially while installing all applications when i can't be bothered doing sudo (lazy i know), but in normal use i don't use roor :P
[02:16] <mneptok> Rampage: sudo -i is your new best friend
[02:16] <witakr> hey yall
[02:16] <mneptok> last call
[02:16] <mneptok> last chance to dance! woo!
[02:16] <pub> how would i go about binding like windows +r to open eterm
[02:17] <witakr> can some recommend a freeware program for mixing music? creating beats as it were
[02:17] <Rampage> cheers mneptok
[02:17] <nickrud> pub running compiz or metacity?
[02:17] <pub> i just installed fluxbox
[02:17] <hou5ton> BCM43:  got the wireless to work with the help of one of those websites.   Thanks.
[02:17] <BCM43> hou5ton: which one?
[02:17] <hou5ton> BCM43:  the internal card
[02:17] <Gman99999> Hey all I'm running an HP laptop with Hardy Heron Fully updated when I first started using hardy heron my microphone worked fine and now it doesn't work at all, I've searched all over the internet to no avail, is there anyone who knows how to fix the microphone problem?
[02:17] <Tux> Ok I have manually set the connection on my wife pc for her wireless connection but after reboot I think the key needs to be reset as it is no long there is there a simple place to put this key so when she boots she is connected as I really dont want to give her windows again as ubuntu is way better . any help would rock
[02:18] <mangojambo> witakr: audacity, ardour ... hydrogen to create beats ... (may be)
[02:18] <nickrud> pub ah, don't know fluxbox keybindings, but either fluxconf or bbkeys should do it
[02:18] <maestrojed> mneptok: I understand the security around it but I think the way it is implemented is crippling.  Either don't let me change it to 777 or let me mess up my security as I wish (maybe with a warning).  Letting me change but then taking away that functionality just crippled the system. I am not complaining to you guys and gals.  Just learning and curious why it is this way
[02:18] <BCM43> hou5ton: post you experience on the forum thread
[02:18] <hou5ton> BCM43:  Now, I'm wondering what are the chances an AT&T air card will work ... it plugs in the USB port .... don't have it with me.
[02:18] <witakr> sweet, thanks mangojambo , i will look into those
[02:19] <Gman99999> nickrud do you know anything about fixing microphone problems? I've searched all over the net and have found nothing to fix this problem in my hp laptop, my mic used to work and now it doesn't after a few reboots
[02:19] <ross> how do i make font bigger on web pages
[02:19] <Rampage> maestrojed: when you do something with sudo it doesn't ask questions it just does. thats why running stuff as root is dangerous
[02:19] <nickrud> Gman99999 I've never tried messing with mikes, sorry
[02:19] <Rampage> especially when you are like me and do stupid things :(
[02:19] <maestrojed> Ok, Thanks all for the help
[02:20] <Gman99999> nickrud do you know where all of the mic controls are located in hardy heron?
[02:20] <chichibangbang> high how do i download all files in a web directory what is easiest way?
[02:21] <noxix> So, I can see my windows network through my ubuntu box. But how do i go about mapping my home directory on my windows box?
[02:21] <Rampage> chichibangbang: if you use firefox you can try downloadthemall
[02:21] <nickrud> Gman99999 in right click volume control, open volume control. There's a recording (mike input iirc) tab
[02:21] <chris0101>  with k3b i am attempting to burn a .cue/bin file but i get unknown error (code 1) before anything happens. how can i fix this?
[02:22] <nickrud> Gman99999 or capture mux that is, on main tab I think. But only think, don't know
[02:23] <chichibangbang> how do i use wget to download all?
[02:23] <Rampage> chichibangbang: you can also use wget with the -r (recursive switch)
[02:23] <Sacro> I have Ubuntu 8.04 in Virtualbox, just done a dist-upgrade, reboot, install virtualbox drivers, reboot and have beend dropped into ash, udevd-event[1344]: run_program '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit
[02:23] <Rampage> chichibangbang: see the man page for wget
[02:23] <chichibangbang> rampage how would i do it with say http://www.example.com/example/
[02:24] <nickrud> pub not sure about the work around you pointed me at, but I noticed it talks about keybindings further down the page
[02:24] <darth> wget -r
[02:24] <darth> jebus, man wget
[02:24] <pub> yeah
[02:24] <pub> that's what im following
[02:24] <pub> well iwas going to follow
[02:24] <DEdwards> ping
[02:24] <Rampage> chichibangbang: wget -r -l 1 http://www.example.co./example perhaps
[02:24] <darth> ;)
[02:24] <pub> the keyboard shortcuts right
[02:24] <chichibangbang> so wget -r http://www.example/example/ ?
[02:24] <chichibangbang> what is 1 for
[02:24] <darth> maybe even -c
[02:25] <Rampage> -l 1 is 1 level
[02:25] <chichibangbang> i want to dl all files in subdirectory
[02:25] <delf0s> how do i make the screen turn into a cube in ubuntu?
[02:25] <nickrud> Sacro first place I'd look is /var/log/syslog , probably more about the error there
[02:25] <Rampage> chichibangbang: so only recurse 1 level
[02:25] <darth> c is clobbering, så that if you stop and redownload you wont download elements already downloaded
[02:25] <mangojambo> hi there ...
[02:25] <Rampage> chichibangbang: so you don't need -l then
[02:25] <chichibangbang> no i want all levels
[02:25] <rodrigo> hey guys... do you know any dapper to gutsy, server, upgrade ?
[02:25] <rodrigo> ops
[02:25] <chichibangbang> ok thanks
[02:25] <Sacro> nickrud: first thing i did was reboot, that worked :\
[02:25] <rodrigo> upgrade howto*
[02:25] <Rampage> chichibangbang: try wget -r website
[02:25] <nickrud> Sacro lol, transient error then
[02:26] <Tux> Ok I have manually set the connection on my wife pc for her wireless connection but after reboot I think the key needs to be reset as it is no long there is there a simple place to put this key so when she boots she is connected as I really dont want to give her windows again as ubuntu is way better . any help would rock
[02:26] <Sacro> nickrud: yes
[02:26] <nickrud> Sacro if you're curious, the error will be archived in the syslog anyway
[02:26] <docta_v> i replaced the mobo in my server and now the NICs are showing up as eth3-eth5 instead of eth0-eth2
[02:26] <docta_v> i'm assuming there is a hook into the MAC address somewhere
[02:26] <darth> docta you have 3 onboard nics?
[02:26] <docta_v> how can i reset the system to the new MACs
[02:26] <docta_v> yeah
[02:27] <darth> no.. i mean does your new mobo have three nics?
[02:27] <Rampage> docta_v: you can either use a mac address changer, or do it command line
[02:27] <docta_v> darth: yes
[02:27] <noxix> So, I can see my windows network through my ubuntu box. But how do i go about mapping my home directory on my windows box?
[02:27] <darth> nice 6 nics in server
[02:27] <chichibangbang> rampage please pm me
[02:27] <VSpike> nickrud: I restarted my 8.04 install to do away with the separate /boot but I've alread nuked the /boot that I had.  Will I be able to rebuild it?  I assume/hope so :)
[02:28]  * JoaoVr Boa Noite, até amanhã
[02:28] <docta_v> i don't want to override the MAC addresses on the new mobo
[02:28] <mangojambo> I am having problem capturing dv video in ubuntu ... unfortunaly I'd install windows to  test that and works realy fine ... in ubuntu some parts of the video just do litle freezes ... (like the processor goes high for I don't know why!)... can someone help me ?
[02:28] <docta_v> i just want them to show as eth0-eth2
[02:28] <darth> noxix use smb://<machine>/c$/documents and settings ect
[02:28] <VSpike> nickrud: I need to rebuild the /boot partition so I can still boot 7.10
[02:28] <darth> assuming your user is an admin on the windows box
[02:28] <musikgoat> noxix: you should right click on your home directory and click shar
[02:28] <noxix> darth: i'm sorry, i meant to say that the other way around. How do I map my ubuntu home directory to my windows machine.
[02:29] <nickrud> VSpike yes, a sec while I pull up some instructions
[02:29] <darth> ahhhh
[02:29] <darth> you need samba for that
[02:29] <VSpike> nickrud: If I boot a 7.10 live cd presumably the contents of /boot will be about right, if I edit the menu.lst
[02:29] <darth> ubuntu already has samba, easiest thing would be to download a gui-setup tool of some kind
[02:29] <nickrud> VSpike there's a canonical way, a sec
[02:30] <darth> you could try gsambad
[02:30] <darth> noxix,
[02:30] <musikgoat> ubuntu desktop doesn't have samba installed by default, i thought
[02:30] <delf0s> anyone know what i press to make compiz rotate cube style?
[02:30] <me_> can anyone help me? my computer keeps booting to the bluetooth configuration file.
[02:30] <musikgoat> noxix: can you right click on your home directory and click sharing options?
[02:31] <nickrud> VSpike https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows#head-bf0ad184b84304b51996a11111a1901667529a80 , up to the point where it talks about restoring grub.
[02:31] <tmapj> can anyone help me? my computer keeps booting to the bluetooth configuration file.
[02:31] <Ice_Max> cpudan80: im gonna look in my BIOS for any options
[02:32] <nickrud> VSpike then do dpkg -l '*linux-image*' | grep ^ii , that will tell you the exact kernel package you need. Then run    sudo apt-get install --reinstall <that linux-image>
[02:32] <will01> when i run " cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec" i get the response " Realtek ALC888". what would be the effects of using a different audio driver? (such as an ALC880)
[02:32] <tmapj> maybe someone could tell me how to set the bluetooth configuration file back to original settings?
[02:32] <nickrud> VSpike that will restore the kernel to /boot , then you can massage whatever menu.lst you are using
[02:32] <musikgoat> !patience | tmapj
[02:33] <nickrud> VSpike to be clear, you start the dpkg -l stuff immediately after doing the chroot
[02:34] <pianoboy3333> Is it possible to do video chat over AIM in linux? How can I?
[02:35] <chuy_max> hey guys, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is not working properly, all the values are missing, like resolutions, drivers, etc...
[02:35] <musikgoat> pianoboy3333: you know i mentioned medibuntu yesterday, and i meant ubuntustudio
[02:35] <musikgoat> thats why i couldn't find anythign about it
[02:35] <pianoboy3333> musikgoat: oh
[02:35] <VSpike> nickrud: thanks!
[02:35] <pianoboy3333> musikgoat: hahah ok I'll look into that
[02:35] <pianoboy3333> thanks
[02:35] <tmapj> piano use meebo.com
[02:35] <musikgoat> for the music comp proggies
[02:36] <pianoboy3333> tmapj: I can't get the other persons voice to sound normal with meebo, and my mic is taking in too much noise with meebo
[02:36] <tmapj> ok
[02:37] <tmapj> can anyone help me? my computer keeps booting to the bluetooth configuration file.
[02:37] <SonicComKid> What is the linux equilivent of Daemon Tools/Power ISO?
[02:37] <valclides> e ai com quem falo
[02:37] <Fungusman> n00b question
[02:37] <chuy_max> SonicComKid, r u burning a disk?
[02:37] <valclides> The game
[02:37] <Fungusman> I want to chnge my login background pic. Google, and ubuntu forums are not giving me a clear answer
[02:38] <SonicComKid> no, I just want to mount ISO/DAA/IMG/etc. images
[02:38] <Fungusman> just want to put my own pic there, not install a theme or anything
[02:38] <chuy_max> SonicComKid, you can do it in console using mount
[02:38] <bieb> what is the mount command to read/write to ntfs?
[02:38] <Leefmc> Question: Is there a way to make one really wide image span, continuously across your workspaces? (Desktop1, Desktop2, etc?)
[02:38] <SonicComKid> that doesn't support things like DAA and what not, it also doesn't fully emulate
[02:38] <zil> I need to stress test our mail server and do some statistics to see what AV is fastest, so far I have only found mail bomb apps that do the job but produce no analytics so we have to use a stopwatch... I have found no propor apps and was wondering if anyone can recommend anything?
[02:38] <nickrud> SonicComKid for ubuntu, gisomount
[02:38] <SonicComKid> mount won't mount DAA/NRG, etc.
[02:39] <BZWingZero> Leefmc, yes. with xrandr
[02:39] <nickrud> SonicComKid ah, gisomount won't either then
[02:39] <chuy_max> bieb, read about ntfs-3g, you can mount with kernel driver but its unsafe
[02:39] <Leefmc> BZWingZero: K, ty
[02:39] <Angelic> I've been trying to make compiz work on 945 for the past few hours...did the SKIP_CHECKS=yes...still won't work. can anyone help please
[02:39] <chuy_max> SonicComKid, you can mount some of those using fuseiso
[02:39] <nickrud> Angelic you could try asking in #compiz-fusion , they are very knowledgeable if they're awake
[02:40] <forge_> Hi.
[02:40] <SonicComKid> fuseiso?..  does that also support emulation modes?
[02:40] <Angelic> nickrud: thanks...will do that
[02:40] <forge_> How do I force Ubuntu to install an older version of a supported app.  I.e. FireFox 2.0 (instead of the 3.x default)
[02:40] <tmapj> can anyone help me? my computer keeps booting to the bluetooth configuration file.
[02:41] <adred> hi, would like to know what's the command to chech the version of kernel i am using? if i am going to reinstall it, would it be ok?
[02:41] <adred> *check
[02:41] <nickrud> adred uname -r gives you the kernel version
[02:41] <chuy_max> SonicComKid, its a module to mount image files like: .ISO, .BIN, .MDF, .IMG and .NRG
[02:41] <will01> what would happen if i used an ALC880 codec when my laptop spits out ALC888 when i run ﻿cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#*
[02:42] <chuy_max> !fuseiso | SonicComKid
[02:42]  * Rampage is now rampageoberon 
[02:42] <nickrud> adred and you can reinstall it safely
[02:42] <nickrud> !info fuseiso
[02:42] <chelz> anyone know of a good way to get an application to minimize to the Notification Area if the program doesn't do it by itself?
[02:42] <adred> nickrud thanks, u think it will fix back my apparmor settings? i messed up my apparmor lately?
[02:42] <Ice_Max> hey cpudan: didnt see any settigns for the SATA drives
[02:42] <Storrgie> I LOVE UBUNTU
[02:43] <nickrud> adred no clue about apparmor, I've left it alone.
[02:43] <adred> nickrud, ok thanks anyway..
[02:43] <tmapj> can anyone help me? my computer keeps booting to the bluetooth configuration file.
[02:43] <SonicComKid> that !fuseiso command you typed for the bot didn't do anything
[02:43] <z32> how do u get wireless internet to work? it simply wont work
[02:43] <Starnestommy> z32: what kind of wireless card do you have?
[02:43] <nickrud> chelz alltray claims to do that
[02:44] <SonicComKid> I looked at it, it looks a bit complicated. Also you still haven't said if it does full emulation or not
[02:44] <chelz> nickrud: thanks for the tip! :)
[02:44] <adred> nickrud, computer says my kernel version is 2.6.24-18-generic. do you know what's the right package for that?
[02:44] <randomshadowbmg> language-pack-bsb package broken
[02:44] <nickrud> SonicComKid http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FuseIso
[02:44] <randomshadowbmg> wont let me reinstlal, upgrade, or do anything to it
[02:45] <randomshadowbmg> i cant run my updates because of it
[02:45] <nickrud> randomshadowbmg   run   sudo apt-get -f install , and put the complete output on paste.ubuntu.com
[02:45] <nickrud> adred that's the latest kernel for 8.04
[02:45] <nickrud> adred you would get    linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic
[02:46] <tmapj> can anyone help me? my computer keeps booting to the bluetooth configuration file.
[02:46] <randomshadowbmg> doesnt work
[02:46] <clarezoe> can anyone see the adobe shockwave player in this site under firefox http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[02:46] <tmapj> :(
[02:46] <nickrud> clarezoe you won't, linux flash doesn't support shockwave (blame adobe)
[02:46] <darth> tmapj, try and delete your ~/.gconf/apps/bluetooth-manager settings
[02:46] <chichibangbang> so how would you mirror a site with a login and password?
[02:46] <randomshadowbmg> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18939/
[02:47] <SonicComKid> it doesn't look like it can do nearly as much as Daemon tools, may not even mount my games properly
[02:47] <tmapj> darth how do i do that
[02:47] <chelz> nickrud: alltray works perfectly, many thanks :D
[02:47] <kajo_> Trying to get USB bluetooth dongle to work. I don't exactly know what to do, but I have these leads: running "bluetooth-aplet" gets this output: Bluetooth OBEX server failed: Bluez DBus interface not available
[02:47] <kajo_> Bluetooth FTP server failed: Bluez DBus interface not available ||| And, this- "lsusb"  shows "Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0a5c:2033 Broadcom Corp. BCM2033 Bluetooth", but "hcitool dev" shows nothing.
[02:47] <Leefmc> Question: This is going to sound stupid, but in the choose a wallpaper window, you have a bunch of images. How do you choose your wallpaper? I assume you simply click the wallpaper you want, but mine takes forever. I can give it 1 minute, or 20, and it doesn't seem to just simply change. To make it change, i generally just spam click the wallpaper i want.. am i doing something wrong?
[02:47] <nickrud> randomshadowbmg try sudo apt-get install --reinstall language-pack-dsb
[02:48] <randomshadowbmg> tells me to run apt-get -f install and i already did that
[02:48] <z32> how do i get ubuntu to start?  i just installed it and when i go to the boot menu and select ubuntu it just takes me to a black screen and nothing happens
[02:48] <nickrud> randomshadowbmg ok, a sec. I have a hammer
[02:48] <Fun1> hay i need help getten my network hooked up
[02:48] <tmapj> darth what does ~ stand for
[02:48] <Starnestommy> z32: wait about 5 minutes after that black screen appears and see if anything happens
[02:48] <kajo_> tmapj, ~ = home directory
[02:48] <Starnestommy> tmapj: /home/<username>
[02:48] <darth> it stands for "home drive" (remember it)
[02:48] <clarezoe> nickrud, thanks, I've searched a lot, and found crossover was the solution, but I don't want to install crossover only for this reason. But I know crossover is based on wine, why can't we use wine then, I'm so confused.
[02:49] <amishdude01> irc.freenode.net
[02:49] <amishdude01> irc.freenode.net
[02:49] <amishdude01> irc.freenode.net
[02:49] <amishdude01> irc.freenode.net
[02:49] <amishdude01> irc.freenode.net
[02:49] <darth> it's used all the time in linux
[02:49] <FloodBot1> amishdude01: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:49] <nickrud>  randomshadowbmg sudo dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq  language-pack-dsb
[02:49] <VSpike> nickrud: why would this install cd want to install lilo?
[02:49] <kajo_> Bluetooth FTP server failed: Bluez DBus interface not available ||| And, this- "lsusb"  shows "Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0a5c:2033 Broadcom Corp. BCM2033 Bluetooth", but "hcitool dev" shows nothing.
[02:49] <tmapj> darth what happens if i delete the file? will my bluetooth not work after that?
[02:49] <randomshadowbmg> nickrud: worked
[02:49] <tmapj> darth can i DC you
[02:50] <nickrud> VSpike not sure, maybe it thinks it's what you need? But honestly, no clue offhand
[02:50] <Fun1> help me some 1 plz
[02:50] <kajo_> Trying to get USB bluetooth dongle to work. I don't exactly know what to do, but I have these leads: running "bluetooth-aplet" gets this output: Bluetooth OBEX server failed: Bluez DBus interface not available
[02:50] <kajo_> Bluetooth FTP server failed: Bluez DBus interface not available ||| And, this- "lsusb"  shows "Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0a5c:2033 Broadcom Corp. BCM2033 Bluetooth", but "hcitool dev" shows nothing.
[02:50] <VSpike> its an 8.04 Desktop AMD64 alternate CD
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[02:50] <FloodBot1> amishdude01: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:50] <randomshadowbmg> nickrud:  award for most helpful person on here :D
[02:50] <VSpike> nickrud: its an 8.04 Desktop AMD64 alternate CD
[02:50] <randomshadowbmg> nickrud: goes to you
[02:50] <Starnestommy> Fun1: with that?
[02:50] <SonicComKid> no.. FuseISO couldn't even mount one of my video game discs
[02:50] <Fun1> i cnat get myt net work going
[02:51] <tmapj> darth
[02:51] <nickrud> VSpike I really don't know why. Because you're using lvm? I have zero clues about that (see randomshadowbmg I'm not worthy ;)
[02:51] <Fun1> im online on my new server but i cant get my xp laptop 2 work
[02:51] <ThomaSHC> hello
[02:51] <Fun1> im on all wires
[02:51] <WIDESPREADpanic> hi
[02:51] <kajo_> Trying to get USB bluetooth dongle to work. I don't exactly know what to do, but I have these leads: running "bluetooth-aplet" gets this output: Bluetooth OBEX server failed: Bluez DBus interface not available
[02:51] <fbc> What consumes more energy? 12v@1 amp or 5v@2 amps?
[02:51] <Fun1> no wireless shit
[02:51] <kajo_> Bluetooth FTP server failed: Bluez DBus interface not available ||| And, this- "lsusb"  shows "Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0a5c:2033 Broadcom Corp. BCM2033 Bluetooth", but "hcitool dev" shows nothing.
[02:51] <tmapj> can anyone help me? my computer keeps booting to the bluetooth configuration file.
[02:51] <afallenhope> how do you add a user for shells?
[02:51] <StevenWilliamsen> wireless lol
[02:52] <WIDESPREADpanic> is anyone else using weechat?
[02:52] <nickrud> fbc power is volts x amps (dc)
[02:52] <WIDESPREADpanic> weechat rules
[02:52] <|Juan|> help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[02:52] <afallenhope> anyone?
[02:52] <nickrud> afallenhope user for shells? Not sure what you mean
[02:53] <tmapj> hey Starnestommy
[02:53] <afallenhope> nickrud: I want to host shells... how do I create a user on my box.
[02:53] <nickrud> afallenhope ah, system->admin->users & groups
[02:53] <kajo_> Trying to get USB bluetooth dongle to work. I don't exactly know what to do, but I have these leads: running "bluetooth-aplet" gets this output: Bluetooth OBEX server failed: Bluez DBus interface not available
[02:53] <kajo_> Bluetooth FTP server failed: Bluez DBus interface not available ||| And, this- "lsusb"  shows "Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0a5c:2033 Broadcom Corp. BCM2033 Bluetooth", but "hcitool dev" shows nothing.
[02:53] <rampageoberon> afallenhope: "sudo adduser <nweuser>"?
[02:53] <afallenhope> nickrud: so that they can ssh into my box
[02:53] <fbc> nickrud, so the 5v@2 consumes less energy... by that formula..
[02:53] <nickrud> fbc yes. Assuming dc
[02:53] <fbc> yep..
[02:53] <darth> tmapj, no unfortunately no, i dont do support
[02:53] <fbc> nickrud, yep..
[02:53] <rodrigo> hey guys... do you know any dapper to gutsy, server, upgrade howto?
[02:54] <nickrud> fbc basically true for ac, but there might be phase differences ... I vaguely remember that from work 20 odd years ago
[02:54] <afallenhope> rampageoberon: thanks
[02:54] <WIDESPREADpanic> is fedora better than ubuntu?
[02:54] <rampageoberon> afallenhope: np
[02:54] <StevenWilliamsen> nope
[02:54] <afallenhope> rampageoberon: and how do you remove them? or do I just set up the expiry?
[02:54] <darth> WIDESPREADpanic, it might be for certain jobs
[02:54] <tmapj> darth wont that screw up my bluetooth if i delete the whole file?
[02:54] <Starnestommy> WIDESPREADpanic: you're asking in a channek about ubuntu, so you're really not going to get anywhere with that question
[02:54] <rampageoberon> afallenhope: "sudo deluser <user>"
[02:54] <darth> yes tmapj
[02:54] <Starnestommy> *channel
[02:54] <afallenhope> rampageoberon: thanks again bro
[02:54] <sink> hi
[02:54] <fbc> WIDESPREADpanic, really a preference issue... I have used both and I find ubuntu easier to deal with and there is tons of support...
[02:54] <darth> it will remove every bonded device from the bluetooth manager tmapj
[02:55] <nickrud> !upgrade | rodrigo I think it's here
[02:55] <tmapj> Starnestommy,  could you help me out
[02:55] <darth> fbc: agreed, the amount of docs and help on ubuntu is insane
[02:55] <Starnestommy> tmapj: with what?
[02:55] <rampageoberon> WIDESPREADpanic: fedora has the reputation of being an alpha testing stage for RHEL packages
[02:55] <sink> i ve a little problem with iptable-restore
[02:55] <vipur> exit
[02:56] <tmapj> Starnestommy, every time i boot my pc it goes into the bluetooth configuration file, and its difficult to get out of it
[02:56] <nickrud> rodrigo https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades  better
[02:56] <oyvan> exit
[02:56] <fbc> WIDESPREADpanic, you could probably ask the same question the fedora channel and get good reasons why fedora should be your choice.. it just really what you feel comfortable with...
[02:56] <`jAguAr> where is the list of updates in the /etc folder?
[02:57] <Starnestommy> tmapj: I don't know anything about bluetooth unfortunately
[02:57] <Zaiden> I have some items in the trash bin that won't delete no matter what I do. Is there  command to force the trash to empty?
[02:57] <rodrigo> nickrud: its a SERVER upgrade... i cant use upgrade-manager
[02:57] <sink> when i try to restore a list of rules, an error apperas, "unable to initialize table 'filter'
[02:57] <VSpike> jeez .. i can barely remember how to drive lilo
[02:57] <rodrigo> i dont hv a xorg running there
[02:57] <tmapj> ok thanks anyway
[02:57] <tmapj> damnit!
[02:57] <sink> i searched a lot, the module apperas in lsmod
[02:57] <musikgoat> `jAguAr: the update repositories are in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:57] <nickrud> rodrigo it has server instructions as well, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#head-e059d5452a24b50d09c64df48058ef2d834eb197-2
[02:57] <`jAguAr> thanx musikgoat :)
[02:57] <musikgoat> np
[02:57] <Windows98> hey guys
[02:57] <sink> when i do a modprobe iptable_filter, dont fails
[02:58] <idhtns> is there a way to suppress the "entered the room" and "left the room" messages here? (using pidgin, if it matters)
[02:58] <musikgoat> idhtns: with a plugin called join/part hide
[02:58] <mikkel> can anyone tell me how to use other ports in BiTtorrent ??
[02:58] <sink> and now im recompiling the kernel with a option that werent on...
[02:58] <idhtns> musikgoat: great, thanks
[02:58] <rampageoberon> mikkel: what client?
[02:59] <Windows98> i love Windows
[02:59] <Windows98> not
[02:59] <Windows98> haha
[02:59] <mikkel> It's just the basic i got in ubuntu
[02:59] <musikgoat> idhtns: you may have to install pidgin-plugin-pack
[02:59] <Windows98> debian rules
[02:59] <StevenWilliamsen> debian does rule
[02:59] <Windows98> ubuntu is wonderful
[02:59] <harpreet> how do i make skype links work in browser , mozilla, (phone numbers), i have installed greasemonkey and other scripts...links appear but skype does not dial ???????
[02:59] <FloodBot1> Windows98: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <rampageoberon> mikkel: transmission then?
[02:59] <tmapj> can anyone help me? my computer keeps booting to the bluetooth configuration file.
[02:59] <darth> hehehe Windows98 another convert
[02:59] <Windows98> im running debian with 44mb or raM, THATS A TON OF RAM
[02:59] <tmapj> who the heck still uses windows 98
[02:59] <harpreet> what do you love Windows98?
[03:00] <tmapj> sorry
[03:00] <fbc> darth, but having every knowledge in the world, I world I would probably pick freeBSD for it's optimized and bulletproof TCP/IP stack and rock solid performance. However, I'm a linux newb after 3 years. The command lineis getting more and more familiar, but somethigns still elude me.
[03:00] <tmapj> that was rude
[03:00] <rampageoberon> mikkel: Edit -> Preferences -> incoming port
[03:00] <Windows98> im joking i hate microsoft, i love ubuntu, my fellow ubuntu brothers
[03:00] <darth> funny you should mention that fbc
[03:00] <nickrud> !ot | Windows98
[03:00] <harpreet> sorry for language, Microshyt windows suck
[03:00] <harpreet> how do i make skype links work in browser , mozilla, (phone numbers), i have installed greasemonkey and other scripts...links appear but skype does not dial ???????
[03:00] <mikkel> i think i can do it now... thank you
[03:01] <darth> fbc: i use freebsd for my servers including those at home
[03:01] <fbc> darth, why is that?
[03:01] <tmapj> can anyone help me? my computer keeps booting to the bluetooth configuration file.
[03:01] <darth> fbc: but sometimes i will get a warning and even kicked out of this channel if i speak about it, so i dont
[03:01] <fbc> darth, ahh.. cool.. I heard of a desktop bcd have you tried it yet?
[03:01] <afallenhope> how do you disconnect someone from your SSH?
[03:01] <darth> fbc: see above.... sucks
[03:01] <darth> go blame the zealous admins
[03:02] <harpreet> how do i make skype links work in browser , mozilla, (phone numbers), i have installed greasemonkey and other scripts...links appear but skype does not dial ???????
[03:02] <sapph424> If I only have one HDD (listed as hda) should that be the device for boot loader installation?  Because for some reason, the installer is defaulting to (hd0).  Again, only one HDD.
[03:02] <lwizardl> Hi
[03:02] <rampageoberon> afallenhope: umm, i would do "ps -u <user>"
[03:02] <tmapj> darth if you dont do support what are you here for
[03:02] <fbc> darth, I just PMed you.
[03:02] <nickrud> tmapj I'd look for it in system->prefs->sessions, ether startup or curent session
[03:02] <lwizardl> my firefox web browser auto stops any flash unless I click on it how do i disable this?
[03:03] <tmapj> thnx nick
[03:03] <musikgoat> sapph424: grub talks to disks with a different numbering pattern
[03:03] <rampageoberon> afallenhope: and kill the pid of the bash terminal they are running and other applications if necessary using "sudo kill -9 <pid>"
[03:03] <harpreet> how do i make skype links work in browser , mozilla, (phone numbers), i have installed greasemonkey and other scripts...links appear but skype does not dial ???????
[03:03] <impal3r> wubi is different than dual boot?
[03:03] <darth> tmapj, what are you talking about?
[03:03] <nickrud> impal3r yes, wubi exists as a file in windows, not on it's own partition
[03:03] <sapph424> So GRUB's hd0 is essentially the same thing as Ubuntu's hda, and I should just leave it be?
[03:03] <rampageoberon> anyone know if usermod -L <user> works to kill users logged in via ssh?
[03:03] <darth> fbc: dont think i can reply you becuase im not regged
[03:03] <musikgoat> sapph424: yes
[03:03] <Starnestommy> impal3r: yes, because dual boots use partitions, but wubi is a file that looks like a partition
[03:04] <tmapj> nickrud the thing is it loads the configuration file before i even log in
[03:04] <|Juan|> help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[03:04] <DarkAudit> do sound juicer and rhythmbox use the same back end to do CD rips?
[03:04] <Starnestommy> rampageoberon: that just stops more logins
[03:04] <sapph424> Great, thanks.
[03:04] <harpreet> how do i make skype links work in browser , mozilla, (phone numbers), i have installed greasemonkey and other scripts...links appear but skype does not dial ???????
[03:04] <darth> but to your question fbc, yes i tried it on a virtual machine and it rocks
[03:04] <impal3r> when i shut down from ubuntu and then tried to get back on i got a weird start up page...
[03:04] <rampageoberon> Starnestommy: ah thanks
[03:04] <nickrud> tmapj I don't have bluetooth on this machine, so I'm really clueless about how the bluetooth subsystem works
[03:04] <impal3r> on wubu
[03:04] <impal3r> wubi*
[03:04] <Starnestommy> rampageoberon: you would need to kill the ssh process on the server that they're connected through to log them out
[03:04] <coo|dude> hi.. i have ubuntu 8.04 installed on my HP Pavillion laptop
[03:04] <afallenhope> rampageoberon: you're my hero
[03:04] <rampageoberon> afallenhope: so to stop them logging in again "sudo usermod -L <user>"
[03:04] <afallenhope> lol
[03:05] <sapph424> The last several times I've tried to install, it hangs on installing GRUB.  So, based on some Googling, I disconnected all my secondary drives until the damned thing gets installed.
[03:05] <coo|dude> but i can't get the wireless and USB to work
[03:05] <impal3r> ?
[03:05] <coo|dude> anyone here that can help me?
[03:05] <impal3r> when i shut down from ubuntu and then tried to get back on i got a weird start up page...
[03:05] <coo|dude> pls..?
[03:05] <impal3r> on wubi
[03:05] <harpreet> how do i make skype links work in browser , mozilla, (phone numbers), i have installed greasemonkey and other scripts...links appear but skype does not dial ???????
[03:05] <Starnestommy> impal3r: what's on that page?
[03:05] <afallenhope> rampageoberon: mind if I pm you?
[03:05] <impal3r> its black and says...
[03:05] <impal3r> some thing like
[03:05] <sink> i've a problem with filetr table, in lsmod, he module apperas to be active, y do modprobe iptable_filter and dont fails, with modconf its ppers to be active too... im using ubuntu 5.10 and iptables 1.3.1, can someone help me or give some ideas?
[03:05] <rampageoberon> Starnestommy: I usually kill the bash (or shell) process first, thats the correct way to do it right
[03:05] <Starnestommy> impal3r: anything about initramfs?
[03:05] <impal3r> im not sure
[03:05] <rampageoberon> afallenhope: i don't mind, you can pm
[03:05] <tmapj> can anyone help me? my computer keeps booting to the bluetooth configuration file.
[03:06] <impal3r> i had to manually shut it down and log back onto windowss xp
[03:06] <rampageoberon> Starnestommy: and then kill any other processes if necessary
[03:06] <impal3r> but i think i remember something abbout initramfs
[03:06] <Starnestommy> harpreet: did you try http://share.skype.com/sites/linux/2006/08/making_skype_links_work.html ?
[03:06] <mystery_> hi
[03:06] <impal3r> but i think i remember something abbout initramfs
[03:07] <Starnestommy> impal3r: that sounds like it could be a filesystem error.  Check the putput of the command "dmesg"
[03:07] <sapph424> harp: A google search for 'firefox protocol handler' should point you in the right direction.
[03:07] <tmapj> can anyone help me? my computer keeps booting to the bluetooth configuration file.
[03:07] <harpreet> Starnestommy, i tried it , didnt work...only links appear...it doesnt get dialed...i installed opera too..and tried there..still no luck
[03:08] <nickrud> tmapj I think you need to give more detail, what configuration file, how is it presented, when do you see it, etc.
[03:08] <tmapj> Starnestommy, would you know how to reset the bluetooth configuration file back to it's original settings?
[03:08] <sink> i've a problem with iptables. with filter table, i made  lsmod, the module appears to be active, y do modprobe iptable_filter and not fails, with modconf its appears to be active too... im using ubuntu 5.10 and iptables 1.3.1, can someone help me or give some ideas?
[03:08] <mystery_> hi
[03:08] <Starnestommy> tmapj: there may be a copy of the default config somewhere, but I don't know where to find it
[03:08] <unavailable> how do i register my nickname?
[03:08] <alan_m> !hi | mystery_
[03:08] <alan_m> !register | unavailable
[03:08] <tmapj> nickrud can i talk to you on a messenger? yahoo gtalk msn aim?
[03:08] <mystery_> thank you
[03:08] <nickrud> sink 5.10 is well past end of life, no one is using that anymore (well, hardly anyone)
[03:08] <Starnestommy> unavailable: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[03:09] <nickrud> tmapj I try to stay here, more eyes over my shoulder is good
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> !eol
[03:09] <mystery_> does anyone here know how to use compiz
[03:09] <GT65> hi, A quick question.  I have a package that I cannot uninstal, reinstal or purge from my system.  is there a way either through Aptitude or Synaptic to clear the programme?
[03:09] <Starnestommy> unavailable: and make sure that you check your email when you register for account registration verification instructions
[03:09] <tmapj> nick its just the bluetooth configuration file
[03:09] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak long time no see
[03:09] <unavailable> k thx all
[03:09] <sapph424> harp, try this: go to about:config, create a new string called 'network.protocol-handler.app.skype' and make the value the absolute path to your skype executable
[03:09] <sink> nickrud, thats isnt the problm
[03:09] <nickrud> tmapj but you say you see it before you even log in. That's very strange, you need to explain more context
[03:09] <IndyGunFreak> Nicke_: the state of indiana is involved in a conspiracy to kill me.. 80hrs at a time..lol
[03:10] <nickrud> sink simply pointing out you probably won't get much help with it
[03:10] <releod> what is the command to set the date/time for a ubuntu8 server?
[03:10] <mystery_> Is anyone here familiar with compiz
[03:10] <sink> in ubuntu 8.04 fails too
[03:10] <IndyGunFreak> *oops, nickrud see above.. that was for you.. i've just been real busy
[03:10] <alan_m> mystery_, i believe we all are, ask your question, the other one :)
[03:10] <nickrud> IndyGunFreak yeah, I was away a lot last month myself
[03:10] <VSpike> nickrud: I think maybe that's the reason for having the separate /boot ... GRUB can't boot LVM directly it seems
[03:10] <tmapj> well after the ubuntu load bar is full it goes to the configuration file
[03:10] <nickrud> VSpike yes
[03:10] <sink> nickrud,  in ubuntu 8.04 fails too
[03:10] <tmapj> Nickrud well after the ubuntu load bar is full it goes to the configuration file
[03:11] <darth> VSpike, true, that would be the reason for separate /boot
[03:11] <IndyGunFreak> !compiz | mystery_ depends on the problem, asking here might help
[03:11] <curb> Hey, Ubuntu auto-connects to my home network. Is there any place I can go to see the DNS and Host info ?
[03:11] <delf0s> whch is the [super] jey?
[03:11] <mystery_> oh ok cool. I am trying to install and use themes but i cant seem to figure out how to find and use them
[03:11] <delf0s> key
[03:11] <nickrud> tmapj it goes to the configuration file: this is a black background white 80x25 character screen?
[03:11] <Starnestommy> delf0s: the windows key
[03:11] <mystery_> i  read that i should use emerald
[03:11] <tmapj> its the normal bootup text size
[03:11] <mystery_> but there are no options in compiz to use emerald
[03:12] <rampageoberon> curb: /etc/resolve.conf
[03:12] <nickrud> tmapj, what happens when you exit the file?
[03:12] <GT65> hi, is there anyone here with synaptic or Aptitude knowledge?
[03:12] <curb> Hey, Ubuntu auto-connects to my home network. Is there any place I can go to see the DNS and Host info ?
[03:12] <rampageoberon> GT65: whats up
[03:12] <rampageoberon> curb: /etc/resolve.conf <-- dns info
[03:12] <nickrud> !anyone | GT65
[03:12] <GT65> ﻿hi, A quick question.  I have a package that I cannot uninstal, reinstal or purge from my system.  is there a way either through Aptitude or Synaptic to clear the programme?
[03:12] <curb> rampageoberon: thanks
[03:12] <tmapj> nickrud sometimes it just makes some weird character appear, sometimes it continues and loads ubuntu fully
[03:13] <delf0s> shit.. how to i make the fire effect go away in compiz?
[03:13] <nickrud> tmapj I can't visualize what you are saying ...
[03:13] <|Juan|> help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[03:13] <nickrud> delf0s system->prefs->advanced desktop, effects group. Uncheck fire
[03:13] <tmapj> lets just say it loads ubuntu when i exit it
[03:13] <nickrud> delf0s arg, not right. A sec.
[03:13] <mystery_> how can i use themes with compiz
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: do you have emerald theme manager installed?
[03:14] <mystery_> i cant find it
[03:14] <GT65> I have since maunally removed all files but both synaptic and aptitude complain that the progeam is not configured so wont uninstal or anything
[03:14] <crdlb> delf0s: shift+super+C
[03:14] <mystery_> ive been looking for it
[03:14] <nickrud> ah!
[03:14] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: search synaptic for it..
[03:14] <jaykay> i get this error when trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg, FATAL: Error inserting battery (/usr/lib...)
[03:14] <mystery_> i type in the emerald and dont get any results
[03:14] <unavailable> ok now in chatzilla how do i set it up to auto login? or does this happen already?
[03:15] <nickrud> tmapj then somewhere some editor is calling it up. Why, I don't know. Where either. Maybe from rc.local? No real clue, sorry
[03:15] <tmapj> ok thnx ne way
[03:15] <delf0s> is there a page where i can see how to make all the commands?
[03:15] <delf0s> in compiz?
[03:15] <Starnestommy> unavailable: set your NickServ password as the server password for freenode
[03:15] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: open synaptic,  go to settings/repositories, make sure all the boxes on the first tab are checked,
[03:15] <mystery_> ok cool ill do that
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: what versionof ubuntu are you using?
[03:16] <mystery_> im using 8.04
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> ok.
[03:16] <IndyGunFreak> check those boxes, reload synaptic, then search for emerald again
[03:16] <nickrud> GT65 put the complete output of    apt-get -f install   on paste.ubuntu.com
[03:16] <Windows98> hi
[03:17] <IndyGunFreak> Windows98: you'll get lots of help here w/ that name..lol
[03:17] <sink> i've a problem with iptables. with filter table, i made  lsmod, the module appears to be active, y do modprobe iptable_filter and not fails, with modconf its appears to be active too... im using ubuntu 5.10 and iptables 1.3.1 (in ubuntu 8.04 occurs the same), can someone help me or give some ideas?
[03:18] <DragonSpirit> heck if his name was Bill Gates I'd help him if I had an answer
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> sink: you've been told the problem, repeatedly asking the same question isn't going to change the answer, you need to update
[03:18] <GT65> done
[03:18] <nickrud> GT65 now, give me the link so I can see the page ;)
[03:18] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: lol
[03:18] <sink> IndyGunFreak, i said in ubuntu 8.04 occurs the same
[03:18] <GT65> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18943/
[03:18]  * nickrud thinks there's a good dragon around
[03:19] <abuansar> hi
[03:19] <IndyGunFreak> sink: then install ubuntu 8.04 and try to trouble shoot from there
[03:19] <lostinlinux> I am so lost
[03:19] <AbuAnsar> does 3D cube works fine on my macbook santa rosa ??
[03:19] <unavailable> ok there's no server password area that i can find
[03:20] <sink> IndyGunFreak, in this time i have both running and tried in boh, same resuls
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> lostinlinux: well, i think most of us failed mind-reading 101
[03:20] <lostinlinux> I have to manual config the wlan on wifes pc
[03:20] <lostinlinux> i was typing
[03:20] <mystery_> Hey Indy I found Emerald
[03:20] <releod> how do I change my timezone and date ubuntu8
[03:20] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: ok, did you install it?
[03:20] <nickrud> GT65 now put the results of   apt-get remove --purge sametime-connect on paste.ubuntu.com
[03:20] <mystery_> Im gonna install it now
[03:20] <releod> it is showing up as Tue Jun 10 02:18:22 UTC 2008, and I want it to be local time
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: ok... you just didn't have the right repositories enabled, thats all.
[03:21] <IndyGunFreak> lostinlinux: ok... what device is it?
[03:21] <GT65> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18945/
[03:22] <mystery_> yea. so now all i have to do is find the themes
[03:22] <mystery_> do u know of any good places to look
[03:22] <harpreet> Starnestommy, i tried it , didnt work...only links appear...it doesnt get dialed...i installed opera too..and tried there..still no luck
[03:22] <nickrud> GT65 um, do again, without     on paste.ubuntu.com
[03:22] <harpreet> how do i make skype links work in browser , mozilla, (phone numbers), i have installed greasemonkey and other scripts...links appear but skype does not dial ???????
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: indeedo.. most of them you can drag/drop int he emerald window(i believe its under system/prefs)
[03:22] <GT65> doh
[03:22] <nickrud> GT65 this is some stuff you got from some other place, not ubuntu?
[03:22] <mystery_> thats where i found it
[03:22] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: try google, there's a site dedicated to emerald themes, and i think there's also some good ones at gnome-look.org (or kde-look.org if you use kde
[03:23] <mystery_> great
[03:23] <mystery_> thanx alot
[03:23] <GT65> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18946/
[03:23] <IndyGunFreak> np
[03:23] <GT65> yeah, work related
[03:23] <coo|dude> can anyone here help me with my ubuntu installation?
[03:24] <coo|dude> my wireless and USB doesn't work
[03:24] <coo|dude> :(
[03:24] <ice109> is there a way to make certain windows always on top even if the program doesn't allow it
[03:24] <IndyGunFreak> !doesntwork | coo|dude
[03:24] <releod> How do I change the timezone when using the "date" command? It shows UTC, and I want it to show local (Eastern)
[03:24] <lwizardl> never heard of it
[03:24] <nickrud> GT65 oh, man, you have some serious issues. I can work around it I think. Put the contents of  /var/lib/dpkg/info/sametime-connect.prerm   on paste.ubuntu.com
[03:25] <mystery_> Quick question: whats the difference between add/remove programs and Synaptic
[03:25] <gleaken> I have a problem with an Toshiba Tecra M2, Nvidia GeForce FX chip coming back from suspend.  The display will come back, and X seems to come up, I see the cursor, but the box to enter my Password does not appear, just a tan screen with the cursor.  I can move to other VTs and the system is up and running, the display is just borked.  This is Hardy.
[03:25] <jrib> mystery_: different frontends/GUIs
[03:26] <mystery_> are they both repositories
[03:26] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: add remove programs is specific programs.. synaptic is packages
[03:26] <GT65> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18948/
[03:26] <lostinlinux>  after i manually config it ssid and security and password for the network and static ip which is the one the for the lan not the wan right
[03:26] <lostinlinux>  and subnet and the router as the gateway right
[03:26] <lostinlinux> she gets out
[03:26] <lostinlinux>  but after a reboot I have to re do all of it everytime
[03:26] <BZWingZero> mystery_ they reference the same repositories. It is just a different way of presenting them.
[03:26] <FloodBot1> lostinlinux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:26] <lostinlinux> why is that
[03:26] <GT65> thanks, I thought I was just being a newbie and couldn't work it out
[03:26] <mneptok> !enter > lostinlinux
[03:26] <coo|dude> ubottu: hhhmmm.. well, i know i have my wireless router working and I know i can use it in WINDOWS, but when i am using uBuntu, it can't detect any wireless network
[03:27] <mystery_> oh ok i understand
[03:27] <Starnestommy> mystery_: synaptic is more versatile, while add/remove is easier to use, although synaptic shows more packages
[03:27] <coo|dude> i read that other laptop, such as dell also hav the same prob
[03:27] <mneptok> coo|dude: it's "Windows" and "Ubuntu" ;)
[03:27] <IndyGunFreak> mneptok: that was slightly subtle.
[03:27] <sapph424> Okay, this is getting infuriating.  Every single time I try to install Ubuntu, it hangs on 'Running update-grub'.  I even went so far as to disconnect every drive other than the one I'm installing to so grub doesn't get confused, but it is STILL hanging!  Is anyone familiar with this issue that can address a way out?
[03:27] <coo|dude> mneptok: i dun get it
[03:27] <nickrud> GT65 no, this is not entry level. You've only shown me part of the file,  do   gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/sametime-connect.prerm   and copy and paste again
[03:27] <Starnestommy> coo|dude: that sounds like a problem with your wireless card. Which model and brand is it?
[03:28] <lostinlinux> roaming mode for her used to bring up a keyring password box which is hers and used to popup a box for the network password which it doesnt anymore other then that I am lost
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> Starnestommy: i've asked him that 3x
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> i hink he's trolling
[03:28] <mneptok> IndyGunFreak: that's why my nickname is "The Flying Mallet"
[03:28] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:28] <coo|dude> Starnestommy: i am not sure what's the model and brand.. but i know my laptop is HP Pavilion TX2032AU, if that helps
[03:28] <GT65> sorry, thought I had it all.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/18949/
[03:28] <mystery_> ok i see
[03:28] <nickrud> always wondered what that nick meant
[03:29] <SpudDogg> If I were to install ubuntu on my ps3, is it possible to get it back off and have a factory ps3 again?
[03:29] <mneptok> nickrud: it also means "he who shall be given sparkly ponies" in Pali
[03:29] <harpreet> help making java work in 64 bit ?
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> SpudDogg: lol, y ou make it sound like a virus... i imagine there is
[03:29] <IndyGunFreak> !java64
[03:29] <nickrud> mneptok loves sparkly ponies <repeat in a singsong, 3 times>
[03:30] <mystery_> ive been trying to enable extra visual effects all day and i can seem to get it work so i can use the cool feature of compiz
[03:30] <mneptok> SpudDogg: what is it you want to do with Ubuntu on the PS3?
[03:30] <SpudDogg> IndyGunFreak:  well, im not too familiar with the ps3 yet (as i have no interest in games, lol) so im just checking...
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> SpudDogg: while i can't say for certain, i imagine yuou could.
[03:30] <mfisch> Is kubuntu-desktop broken on Intrepid for anyone else?
[03:30] <SpudDogg> mnemo:  watch my movies and use it similarly to mythtv, but without the live TV part
[03:30] <mystery_> When i check the little circle i get a white screen and my computer freezes
[03:30] <nickrud> GT65 ok, close that gedit window, then in a terminal type     gksu gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/sametime-connect.prerm    Tell me when you have it
[03:30] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: you havef ATI graphics?
[03:30] <mystery_> any thoughts
[03:31] <mystery_> yes
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> thats why.
[03:31] <mneptok> SpudDogg: i watch tons of downloaded content using only XMB on the PS3
[03:31] <SpudDogg> IndyGunFreak:  i asking because when i read the install instructions it says that after installing, just reboot the ps3 and it will boot into the linux install, therefore, I'm hesitant
[03:31] <SpudDogg> mneptok:  XMB?  googling
[03:31] <GT65> yep
[03:31] <GT65> got it
[03:31] <jpw27_> with SSH, is there any way to run a process on the remote computer using the host computer's environment
[03:31] <mystery_> any thought on what i can do to fix it
[03:31] <genii> mfisch: Firstly you're in #ubuntu and not #kubuntu chnnel, secondly Ibex is not supported in either channel yet.
[03:31] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: try asking #compiz-fusion or in the forumms.. thats a known issue w/ the ati driver, id on't know of a fix, sorry
[03:32] <darth> jpw27_, yes use x forwarding for that
[03:32] <nickrud> GT65 ok, now insert a line after #! /bin/bash , and type     exit 0    there
[03:32] <mystery_> ok
[03:32] <mfisch> sorry for asking
[03:32] <GT65> done
[03:32] <wilsonjr> Hellow :)
[03:32] <mneptok> SpudDogg: Xross Media Bar. the default PS3 OS.
[03:32] <mystery_> ill see if anyone can help
[03:32] <jpw27_> darth, i mean like if I want to run a Python program on a remote client, but they don't have Python installed, could I SSH into them, and do something like export PYTHONPATH=user@localmachine:/path/to/python
[03:33] <jpw27_> jw
[03:33] <SpudDogg> mneptok:  how would i access my samba shares?
[03:33] <nickrud> GT65 ok save and close, then run    sudo apt-get remove --purge sametime-connect
[03:33] <mneptok> SpudDogg: you don't. you use MediaTomb.
[03:33] <SpudDogg> googling
[03:33] <mneptok> !info mediatomb
[03:33] <IndyGunFreak> !ati | mystery_ you can try looking at this FAQ
[03:33] <mystery_> ok
[03:34] <CydeWeys> Awww, Micropolis isn't available through apt?
[03:34] <GT65> Happy, Happy Joy, Joy.  All cleaned up, thank-you
[03:34] <Andreus> Hi guys. I've got a problem similar to this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=472056 and I was wondering if there's a solution yet.
[03:34] <jpw27_> darth, i don't think x forwarding applies in that situation
[03:34] <eido> what does ./ mean? why would a command require ./? does the . mean look in the directory you are currently at?
[03:35] <mneptok> eido: precisely
[03:35] <rampageoberon> eido: ./ means execute
[03:35] <mystery_> ill check this faq out. I have installed ndiswrapper and the ati windows drivers
[03:35] <|Juan|> help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[03:35] <mneptok> rampageoberon: no, it means "right here in this directory"
[03:35] <Starnestommy> eido: ./ makes the shell look in the current directory instead of in the PATH variable
[03:35] <nickrud> GT65 now run sudo apt-get autoremove , see if you can get rid of the ibm stuff (if you want)
[03:35] <darth> nope jpw27_ sorry for the oversight
[03:35] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: does the ATI driver work w/ ndiswrapper?
[03:35] <rampageoberon> mneptok: ah ok
[03:35] <mystery_> yea
[03:35] <darren> Hey guys, could someone give me some advice........I simply cannot get transkode to convert my wma files to mp3, to send it to my ipod; no matter what i do, it just doesn't work
[03:35] <jpw27_> darth that's fine, my wording was vague
[03:35] <mneptok> rampageoberon: try "ls ./" (no quotes)
[03:35] <GT65> thankyou nickrud
[03:36] <unavailable> ok i tried uninstalling the Virtualbox-ose completely and i keep getting an error 3
[03:36] <rampageoberon> mneptok: i see
[03:36] <nickrud> GT65 you're welcome
[03:36] <Soulwarp> hello, it's my birthday today, what do you guys suggest for a good media organizer program? i've been using rhythmbox
[03:36] <Sirius889> Is it generally possbile to replace a notebook's processor with a desktop processor if both processors use the same socket number?
[03:36] <jansen_afk> hi.. how do i close my OS??? shutdown -??
[03:36] <IndyGunFreak> mystery_: didn't know that.. but that might be the prob..
[03:36] <Starnestommy> jansen_afk: sudo shutdown -h now
[03:36] <unavailable> anyway to correct this issue?
[03:36] <mystery_> hmm..
[03:36] <mneptok> Sirius889: no, as laptops usually are soldered, not socketed.
[03:36] <jansen_afk> Starnestommy, kk
[03:36] <mystery_> im gonna read this faq and see
[03:36] <eido> so if i wanted to add the command and it existed @ /~/directory i would have to enter PATH=$PATH:/~/directory?
[03:36] <CydeWeys> rampageoberon: Generally . shouldn't be in your path, as it's a security vulnerability; what happens if someone sends you a Trojan executable named ls ?
[03:36] <SpudDogg> mneptok:  this looks like you would just use the ps3 browser to navigate to a share, correct?  the browser in my ps3 is not fullscreen though
[03:37] <NukeSkyjumper> just updated hardy and it's now unable to detect my monitor (old plug-n-play CRT)
[03:37] <Sirius889> mneptok, mine is removable
[03:37] <CydeWeys> rampageoberon: So you specific . to explicitly execute the program in the current directory.
[03:37] <mneptok> SpudDogg: nope, the MediaTomb share shows up as a browseable device on the PS3, like an external USB device.
[03:37] <mystery_> ok i think maybe i should not have installed the windows drivers for ati
[03:38] <rampageoberon> CydeWeys: ah, thanks :)
[03:38] <nickrud> unavailable run   sudo apt-get remove --purge virtualbox-ose   , and put the results on   paste.ubuntu.com
[03:38] <darren> no luck?........hmm
[03:38] <SpudDogg> mneptok:  ahh ok...think i should install this on my ubutnu-server fileserver machine or on my gentoo desktop machine?
[03:38]  * nickrud notices a lot of broken package installs tonight
[03:38] <sapph424> Any ideas on  my grub lockup issue?
[03:40] <darren> does anybody know how to configure transkode to convert wma to mp3?
[03:40] <NukeSkyjumper> this is annoying. hardy is supposed to be stable. just rebooted to find it at 640x480, and the sensors-applet has no text now
[03:40] <mneptok> SpudDogg: Ubuntu server. it's apackaged :)
[03:40] <mneptok> -a
[03:41] <SpudDogg> mneptok:  i guess what i was asking is if there's a GUI
[03:41] <mystery_> ha i found out that i installed it and never enabled the drivers
[03:41] <mneptok> SpudDogg: if you're doing this now, i'll give you the 2 lines you'll need in MediaTomb's .conf to make the PS3 feel sexy.
[03:41] <genii> darren: ffmpeg should do it. But for your application of putting them to ipod, the playlists won't reflect that you have new music on it even if you successfully transcode them anyhow.
[03:41] <ianliu_88> how do I know the /dev file corresponding to my usb ? For instance, I plugged my mp3 on a usb and run "lsusb". It points to "Bus 007 Device 002". What file would this usb correspond to?
[03:41] <SpudDogg> mneptok:  what better time to do it?
[03:41] <mneptok> SpudDogg: nope. there's a web UI, but it's unrelated to configurstion.
[03:41] <mneptok> *configuration
[03:41] <darren> thank you
[03:42] <darren> i'm going to give it a try
[03:42] <mneptok> SpudDogg: what release is the Ubuntu server running?
[03:42] <rampageoberon> ianliu_88: run "sudo lshw -C disk"
[03:42] <rampageoberon> ianliu_88: i think that will help
[03:42] <SpudDogg> mneptok:  its running gutsy for now, i could upgrade it quick if that would be easier
[03:43] <SonicComKid> Okay.. this is getting on my nevers, I'm trying very hard to install gCDEmu and it won't let me compile it, and when I tired the debien package it won't allow me to install it for some reason
[03:43] <ianliu_88> rampageoberon: I will try
[03:43] <gleaken> I have a problem with an Toshiba Tecra M2, Nvidia GeForce FX chip coming back from suspend.  The display will come back, and X seems to come up, I see the cursor, but the box to enter my Password does not appear, just a tan screen with the cursor.  I can move to other VTs and the system is up and running, the display is just borked.  This is Hardy.
[03:43] <SonicComKid> could someone help me please?
[03:43] <MarcoDiego> hi, how do i change the ubuntu logo on the gnome menu-bar?
[03:43] <Reynastus> ok so im just starting with ubuntu and have hardy running reasonably fine, only one problem is i had sound, tried to get my mic working, resulting in me not having sound anymore
[03:43] <mneptok> SpudDogg: nope, should be fine
[03:44] <jpw27_> gleaken: have you tried typing your password? sometimes coming back from suspend my box just shows a white screen with the cursor, but I can type my password and login
[03:44] <MarcoDiego> ﻿hi, how do i change the ubuntu logo on the gnome menu-bar?
[03:44] <MarcoDiego> found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572712 , but there's no key named "menu-object"
[03:45] <rampageoberon> ianliu_88: the logical name of the usb device is what you want from that list
[03:45] <SpudDogg> mneptok:  well, i've added the repo, im going to install the 3 packages now
[03:45] <ianliu_88> rampageoberon: hmm, no. I wanted to read the USB port file
[03:46] <rampageoberon> ianliu_88: what do you mean?
[03:46] <mneptok> SpudDogg: tell me when it's installed and running and i'll help you edit your config
[03:46] <jpw27_> if I want to run a Python program on a remote client, but they don't have Python installed, could I SSH into them, and do something like export PYTHONPATH=user@localmachine:/path/to/python
[03:46] <StevenWilliamsen> what;s a good dark theme?
[03:46] <gleaken> jpw27_:honestly, no, but I have a nagging feeling this is because of compiz, I had a similar problem with a 7.04 with Beryl installed on an intel card
[03:46] <ianliu_88> rampageoberon: the same way I read a serial port
[03:46] <|Juan|> help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[03:46] <jpw27_> gleaken: i use compiz fusion, and this happens, it looks like nothing is there but I can log in.  i would suggest trying it
[03:46] <ianliu_88> rampageoberon: I would read the /dev/ttyS0 file
[03:47] <moccuo> i've been getting freeze ups and crashes a lot with ubuntu. always something, either i lose my sound and i need to restart, or my X session gets borked and i need to restart X, or firefox wont start because its "still in use" when it really isnt.. i need to restart the system for these things all the time..
[03:47] <rampageoberon> ianliu_88: lshw gives the logical name that is /dev<whatever> it is, isn't that waht you want?
[03:48] <moccuo> they happen out of nowhere.. and im not doing anything that would particularily provoke these problems..
[03:48] <gleaken> jpw27_:Ok, I will try, but seems like a bug.  I haven't tried it on an intel card yet to see what happens, it may be an nVidia thing, but I don't know
[03:48] <rampageoberon> ianliu_88: perhaps i'm mistaken, sorry
[03:48] <moccuo> also, anohter thing is my fonts are disgustingly large when im at the GDM login screen
[03:48] <jpw27_> gleaken: yea I have an 8800GT.  it's kind of annoying, but logging in works fine.  i doesn't hurt to just try next time it happens
[03:48] <macondo> I think amarok messed up with my audio engine, is it possible to restart the engine?
[03:48] <ianliu_88> rampageoberon: I think thats the file system mounted. I wanted to see the bits transferred to/by the usb driver =)
[03:49] <LordFlashy> how can I install pygame in ubuntu?
[03:49] <moccuo> can someone help me out? please
[03:49] <rampageoberon> ianliu_88: ah, sorry i don't know how to do that
[03:49] <macondo> LordFlashy: install the package python-pygame
[03:49] <soldats> moccuo: PM me
[03:49] <rnartos> how can I user CADAVER to upload files to a web-dav server on a bash script??
[03:49] <LordFlashy> thanks macondo
[03:49] <gleaken> jpw27_: I will, I will also be putting this on an intel card soon, x3100 and I will see what happens
[03:49] <ianliu_88> rampageoberon: nop. Im very thankfull for your help
[03:49] <t3rm1n4l> what is a backport ?
[03:49] <SpudDogg> mneptok:  it's installed, but it did not make a ~/.mediatomb directory, nor a config.xml at all
[03:49] <MarcoDiego> ﻿hi, how do i change the ubuntu logo on the gnome menu-bar? found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572712 , but there's no key named "menu-object"
[03:50] <LordFlashy> do you also know the package for using opengl with pythin?
[03:50] <gleaken> jpw27_: at least I am not the only one, those are the worst ones, heh, thanks
[03:50] <macondo> LordFlashy: use apt-cache search <package> to search for it, then chose one to install
[03:50] <mneptok> SpudDogg: it's /etc/mediatomb/config.xml
[03:50] <moccuo> soldats: i cant, im not registered
[03:50] <Mr_Bad_News> does anyone know a package for new icons?
[03:50] <jpw27_> gleaken: sure, hope it works for you
[03:50] <moccuo> soldats: join #moccuo
[03:50] <SpudDogg> mneptok:  sure is, lol.  the mediatomb site says its in ~/.mediatomb :/
[03:50] <boselecta> is there any hope of getting a Wine + iTunes setup working that will recognise an older iPod nano under 8.04?
[03:51] <mneptok> SpudDogg: see PM
[03:51] <Reynastus> "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings." what does that mean?
[03:51] <macondo> boselecta: can't you use gtkpod?
[03:51] <sapph424> Any ideas why the ubuntu installer would lock at 94% (during the grub installation)  every time?
[03:51] <BZWingZero> boselecta, you should be able to just use a native program. I'm partial to amarok and use it fine with my gen 5 ipod.
[03:52] <genii> sapph424: Is this with alternate install cd ?
[03:52] <boselecta> macondo: um, i think part of the issue is some m4p files in the library (it's not my computer).
[03:52] <jpw27_> sapph424:  what does it say it is doing at 94%?  how long do you wait before killing it?
[03:52] <sapph424> genii: Negative.
[03:53] <pen> how do I let evdev detect my vx revolution after boot?
[03:53] <sapph424> jpw: The large bold text says 'Installing GRUB boot loader'  the small text under the progress bar says 'Running "update-grub"...   I started it at 5AM this morning and haven't killed it yet.
[03:55] <jpw27_> sapph424:  what OS does the computer have right now
[03:55] <sapph424> I read some stuff around the Goog that indicated that grub might get confused is there are multiple drives, especially if some are SATA and some are PATA, especially if installing to a PATA.  So after the last several times this happened, I disconnected all the other drives.
[03:56] <sapph424> Well, it had GG.  Then I updated to HH.  But then I couldn't get a network connection to work.  Like, at all.  So then I popped the GG LiveCD back in, and told it to do a fresh install of the full disk.
[03:56] <sapph424> Since then, its been hanging at the grub install.
[03:56] <macondo> How do I restart the sound engine?
[03:57] <Hilikus> hey guys, im using jfs and everytime my computer shuts down abruptly (power outage for example) my jfs partition doesnt mount. my ext3 and xfs partitions probably have issues with that too but they repair themselves (im assuming). the jfs partition i always have to manually run jfs_fsck which always works and fixes it. is there a way to let the system try that if the partition doesnt mount instead of my running the same command manually every time?
[03:57] <Andreus> Hey guys, pretty much every time I try to boot outside of recovery mode, I get an infinite loop of this error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=472056
[03:58] <afallenhope> hey anyone know why when I type sudo deluser testbox --remove-all-files it leaves their home directory?
[03:59] <SonicComKid> I've spent HOURS googleing. I can't find anything even remotely similar to DaemonTools. I want to mount my game and play it. I can to it in windows, but everything I've read and been told does NOT WORK. Come on, this is supposed to be 'superior' linux, why can't I simply mount my ISO and play it like I can with deamon tools in windows??
[03:59] <sapph424> Afallen:  Just a guess, but try running sudo deluser testbox --remove-all-files --remove-home
[03:59] <sapph424> I know it sounds redundant, but it might work ;p
[03:59] <jpw27_> if I want to run a Python program on a remote client, but they don't have Python installed, could I SSH into them, and do something like export PYTHONPATH=user@localmachine:/path/to/python
[04:00] <boselecta> 8.04 uninstalled xmms for being out-of-date, but I cannot for the life of me get a shoutcast .pls playlist playing in anything else, including xmms2. i installed the curl and pls plugins for xmms2 but it's still failing.
[04:00] <Soulwarp> Hilikus:  you may want to check your hard drive to see if it's getting enough power from your power supply
[04:01] <boselecta> any ideas?
[04:01] <Andreus> I'd very much like suggestions on what the issue here could be.
[04:02] <Andreus> Because for some reason it (sometimes) starts properly in recovery mode.
[04:02] <mangojambo> please... do someone have problem to capture dv video on kino? I'm capturing, but the processor goes high sometimes, bugging parts of the video...
[04:02] <Hilikus> Soulwarp thats not the problem, i mean if the electricity in my block goes out, of course the whole computers shuts down and the partitions dont close nicely, but the other partitions fix the inconsistencies, not the jfs one
[04:03] <Soulwarp> Hilikus: if it's not a power issue it may be a bad HDD
[04:04] <Soulwarp> Hilikus: the bug you posted suggest that
[04:04] <sapph424> Well, I've got nothin for you jpw, you got anything for me? ;p
[04:05] <Satan> hello
[04:05] <Bodsda> hi
[04:05] <Satan> i have a comment here
[04:05] <Satan> about UB
[04:05] <Satan> k
[04:05] <Bodsda> Satan, ask away
[04:05] <|Juan|> help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[04:06] <Satan> the thing is here. how do i get Wireless to work on UB
[04:06] <Satan> it for only windows xp
[04:06] <Satan> Linksys WMP54G Driver
[04:06] <Satan> i think that it
[04:06] <Bodsda> !enter | Satan
[04:08] <pen> how do I let evdev detect my vx revolution after boot?
[04:08] <xborgy> Hello all,can someone help with dual monitor?
[04:08] <Bodsda> !ask | xborgy
[04:08] <Satan> ok i mean wusb54gc to work on liunx? is there a driver for this?
[04:08] <xborgy> i can get it to work problem is its reading the 2nd monitor as 1
[04:08] <ramier> after spending a full two days trying to configure fedora 9 with xfce4, i'm gonna give up and try xubuntu. i hope its better.
[04:09] <xborgy> my card has VGA and DVI connections my new LCD is on the DVI and i need that for my first monitor
[04:09] <jpw27_> if I want to run a Python program on a remote client, but they don't have Python installed, could I SSH into them, and do something like export PYTHONPATH=user@localmachine:/path/to/python
[04:09] <Soulwarp> ramier: i have tryed xubuntu and it's great :)
[04:09] <jaykay> anyone know how to fix this error? FATAL: Error inserting battery (/lib/modules/2.6.24-18-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko): No such device
[04:10] <Satan> um
[04:10] <boselecta> how can i listen to shoutcast streams? xmms seems to be dead now under 8.04
[04:10] <ramier> the biggest problems with fedora is none of the guides to my vx revo mouse works, and there's so many other small problems :(
[04:10] <xborgy> i use the ATI Control Center for linux all it has for dual monitors is Clone/Big Desktop/Single.
[04:11] <Soulwarp> boselecta: i use rhythmbox
[04:11] <xborgy> when i do Big Desktop it makes the right monitor to my right which is on the VGA connection port it makes it monitor 1!
[04:11] <ramier> is there some bootleg release of xubuntu on a dvd? i only have dvds and no blank cds and i wish i didn't have to go buy burnable cds
[04:11] <jaykay> anyone know how to fix this error? FATAL: Error inserting battery (/lib/modules/2.6.24-18-generic/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko): No such device
[04:12] <sapph424> You can burn a CD image to a DVD.  It will work fine
[04:12] <MarcoDiego> ﻿boselecta: mplayer
[04:12] <Satan> wusb54gc
[04:12] <ramier> oh? how? i was planning on using cdrecord
[04:12] <Satan> oh my bad :(
[04:12] <Bodsda> ramier, do it exactly as you would a cd but use a dvd
[04:12] <rampageoberon> ramier: just stick in a dvd and burn it :)
[04:12] <boselecta> MarcoDiego: thx i'll try that
[04:13] <Josellis> hello
[04:13] <sapph424> ramier: Or rather, do exactly as you would if it were a 'DVD' image.  Whatever programs/process you normally use to burn a DVD image - use it for the CD image.  It veel vork
[04:13] <jaykay> anyone know how to stop the acpi or battery module from running ?
[04:13] <ramier> sweet sounds good :)
[04:13] <MarcoDiego> ﻿hi, how do i change the ubuntu logo on the gnome menu-bar? found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572712 , but there's no key named "menu-object"
[04:13] <ramier> on the same note, i've never burned anything on linux before, what app do peopel use? on fedora :p
[04:14] <Bodsda> jaykay, i think you would add noacpi to the boot line in grub
[04:14] <boselecta> MarcoDiego: can mplayer deal with .pls playlists?
[04:14] <sapph424> ramier: Beats the hell out of me - I burned my Ubuntu disks from Windows :?
[04:14] <ramier> heh :( i burned fedora on windows, but i don't have windows anymore :(
[04:14] <Josellis> I was wondering, is there any difference between the programs when downloaded from the ubuntu servers compared to the program's website (e.g. Downloading openoffice through www.openoffice.org or downloading through the synaptic package manager)
[04:14] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, are you using a downloaded icon set or a default set? if default, which one?
[04:14] <MarcoDiego> ﻿boselecta: not sure, but i think thye're human-readable textfiles
[04:15] <Soulwarp> ramier: what system are you using now?
[04:15] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: running an ubuntu live-cd
[04:15] <ramier> fedora 9
[04:15] <sapph424> And speaking of beating the hell out of me, anyone got any ideas on my ubuntu-install-hangs-at-94%-issue?
[04:15] <ramier> making things work has been a nightmare so i'm hoping xubuntu is better
[04:16] <dwidmann_laptop> Okay, so I don't normally drop by, but I've got a question (wow, that's new, hahahahaha). What's the best way to manually set the resolution for a monitor? I'm thinking it probably involves xrandr but I'm a bit hazy on what the syntax would be for me to do so ...???????
[04:16] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, hang on lemme find the tuto
[04:16] <Bhavesh> sapph424 for the laptop i am trying to install it on.. it hung for a long time but it eventually moved.. not sure how long is your wait/pause
[04:16] <sapph424> So far?  About 14 hours.
[04:16] <Soulwarp> ramier: if i remember correctly from using fedora in the past, i think it comes with a cd burning program
[04:16] <sapph424> Yeah
[04:16] <Bhavesh> sapph424 that may be a bit too long
[04:16] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: thx, I'll wait right here
[04:16] <ramier> i'm sure it does; i just don't know what its called
[04:17] <Soulwarp> ramier: you may want to try this in terminal
[04:17] <Bhavesh> cd burning software ' xcdroast' for xwindow or cdrecord for command line
[04:17] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, do you have an imagge ready?
[04:17] <Soulwarp> ramier: yum install k3b
[04:17] <Janice8954> Can' anyone help me? I am trying to recover deleted files?
[04:17] <sapph424> I thought so too.  I'd start again if I thought it would do anything, but this is the 4th or 5th time in a row that its hung here.
[04:17] <ramier> hmmmm ok thanks, i'll try k3b, and xcdroast
[04:17] <rampageoberon> Janice8954: deleted files?
[04:18] <Josellis> what is the difference between programs downloaded from the ubuntu servers compared to the program's website?
[04:18] <ramier> what does xubuntu use for package management? apt? or deb? or is that really old
[04:18] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: lots of png and svg's
[04:18] <rampageoberon> ramier: apt
[04:18] <Bodsda> Josellis, programs from the repo'sare always in a .deb format and are installed for you without having to compile from source
[04:18] <ramier> does it work the same as yum
[04:18] <ramier> the same idea
[04:18] <Soulwarp> ramier: apt yes
[04:18] <rampageoberon> ramier: debian based so apt-get or aptitude
[04:18] <Janice8954> yes rampageoberon: LIke when you put them in the trash bin  and empty it.
[04:18] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, you need to have 1 image in mind, and it needs to be scaled down to 24x24
[04:18] <Satan> :::
[04:18] <Soulwarp> ramier: very symilar yes
[04:19] <rampageoberon> ramier: yes same idea
[04:19] <Janice8954> I need to recover them so i can wipe them.
[04:19] <Bhavesh> Josellis most likely, main difference may be that one from prog's website you have to compile yourself, vs one from ubuntu software repository it comes compiled
[04:19] <ramier> ok :)
[04:19] <jpw27_> if I want to run a Python program on a remote client, but they don't have Python installed, could I SSH into them, and do something like export PYTHONPATH=user@localmachine:/path/to/python
[04:19] <Soulwarp> ramier: similar*
[04:19] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: ok, have some of those
[04:19] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, pick one and tell me the EXACT file path
[04:19] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: what should i do?
[04:19] <rampageoberon> Janice8954: not sure how to do that, amybe someone else here know how
[04:19] <wasabi> I've got this USB Serial adapter which isn't being recognized. NOt sure why. Pretty sure I know which driver should be used
[04:19] <sapph424> janice: I know of no way to 'recover' them.  However, it should be possible to 'wipe' over your unallocated sectors.
[04:19] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: wait
[04:19] <amenado> jpw27_-> it has to be installed at remote end
[04:20] <Josellis> Bodsda: but for programs that do no need compiling (e.g. thunderbird, skype, etc.) is it better to download from ubuntu server or the website (mozilla.com and skype.com)
[04:20] <hey`> MAN I had a presentation a few hours ago and my lappie didn't work with the video beam.
[04:20] <Janice8954> sapph424. There is software in Windows that can do this. Why doesn't Linux have something?
[04:20] <jpw27_> amenado:  darn...so tjere
[04:20] <rampageoberon> Janice8954: http://www.runtime.org/diskexplorer.htm#DE_LINX perhaps
[04:20] <jpw27_> amenado: so there's no way to execute things on a remote end using tools on the local end
[04:20] <hey`> I don't know what happened, and I just rented the video beam.
[04:20] <Janice8954> Sapph424: you are also speaking Iranian to me because I have no idea what you just said.
[04:21] <sapph424> Janice: Windows doesn't delete things like linux/unix does
[04:21] <rampageoberon> Janice8954: windows based though :(
[04:21] <Bodsda> Josellis, if there in the repo's then use the repo's
[04:21] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/tomboy.png
[04:21] <wasabi> Janice8954: There are debugging tools you can use to recover files from ext3 and friends, and there are commercial tools. They are ungodly expensive.
[04:21] <rampageoberon> sapph424: does linux write over the full file with 0 or 1's?
[04:21] <amenado> jpw27_-> nope, no other way..once you login to the other end, its the resources at the remote you are using, not localhost
[04:21] <sapph424> janice: Is your concern security?  That someone will gain physical access to your hard drive and use forensic techniques to recover the data from deleted files?
[04:21] <boselecta> MarcoDiego: is there a way to set up a playlist for MPlayer? it seems to work for what I want.
[04:21] <jpw27_> amenado: darn. thanks for the answer
[04:22] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, run this exact command in a terminal.     sudo cp /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png.bak && sudo cp /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/tomboy.png /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-logo-icon-transparent.png
[04:22] <sapph424> janice: Because, honestly, I'm in Information Assurance for a DoD agency, and I think that's usually a fairly paranoid viewpoint.
[04:22] <Janice8954> Yeah that's sort of the idea sapph424. I have no idea how to run Autopsy
[04:22] <MarcoDiego> ﻿boselecta: sure it is possible, but sorry... dont know how :(
[04:22] <wasabi> Janice8954: Fill teh driver with new files.
[04:22] <Bhavesh> has anyone gotten linksys wireless card WCP54G working with 8.04 edubuntu?
[04:22] <wasabi> fill the drive
[04:22] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, then run this command       gnome-panel --replace
[04:22] <Janice8954> sapph424: I am a private investigator and I can't have these files my machine.
[04:22] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: done
[04:23] <sapph424> Very few private individuals have data that is worth the cost, time and effort to do a forensic hard drive analysis.
[04:23] <jaykay> I added noacpi and acpi=off to grub boot menu but i still get this error when trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg, FATAL: Error inserting battery ...
[04:23] <wasabi> Janice8954: ANd next time use an encyrpted hard dis
[04:23] <wasabi> k
[04:23] <MarcoDiego> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ gnome-panel --replace
[04:23] <Janice8954> Anyone know how to run Autopsy.
[04:23] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: Opção --replace desconhecida
[04:23] <MarcoDiego> Execute "gnome-panel --help" para ver a lista completa de opções de linha de comando disponíveis.
[04:23] <Bodsda> boselecta, highlight the songs you want then right click on one of them go to the playlist menu then select create new playlist
[04:24] <sapph424> janice: If you are really really concerned, then download the ubuntu image about . . . . 100 times.  That should take care of it. :)
[04:24] <rampageoberon> sapph424: just out of curiosity, the rm command doesn't overwrite the full thing with 0's or 1's ?
[04:24] <boselecta> Bodsda: what if my "songs" are URLs?
[04:24] <MarcoDiego> ﻿﻿Bodsda: gnome-panel --replace is not a valid option
[04:24] <jpw27_> Janice8954:  i'm a little late to the conversation, but is something like this what you're looking for? http://wipe.sourceforge.net/
[04:24] <Janice8954> wasabi: I think you know as well as I do that any encryption can be broken
[04:24] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, then run this command       killall gnome-panel
[04:24] <Bodsda> boselecta, might work,.,.dunno
[04:24] <sapph424> rampage: AFAIK, it only removes the inode to the file - the data is ignored.
[04:24] <Janice8954> jpw27. I just got wipe. I
[04:25] <Janice8954> Yesterday,
[04:25] <wasabi> Janice8954: Dude. Okay, fine. I'm not helping you then. That's silly.
[04:25] <jpw27_> Janice8954: ok
[04:25] <rampageoberon> sapph424: ah, so would you happen to know how to recover them
[04:25] <ghindo> Odd quesiont, but does anyone know how a bash command to make a computer do the system beep on command?
[04:25] <extor> Does ubuntu have any way of running multiple desktops simultaneously with different users logged in?
[04:25] <rampageoberon> Janice8954: to wipe out files you can use shred too
[04:25] <wasabi> extor: Yes.
[04:25] <Miesco_> How do I make my audacious playlist bigger
[04:25] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: gnome-panel killed, restarted... old icon is still there
[04:25] <boselecta> i get INET6 errors in MPlayer. is that normal?
[04:25] <extor> wasabi, my main reason for asking was security--to sandbox non-rooted apps from each other
[04:26] <sapph424> Janice: It is patently false that any encryption can be broken.  The current 'strong' encryption would take all the computational power currently in existence millenia to do it.  Be realistic.
[04:26] <Janice8954> wasabi: I don't understand why'd you take offense to my statement, as it's the truth. An encrypted Disk is not what I need. I need to get rid of files that I already have.
[04:26] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, ok are you using the default icon set?
[04:26] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: yes
[04:26] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: ubuntu from live-cd
[04:26] <cens0red> hi. Has anyone tried Parallels for ubuntu yet?
[04:27] <endafy> hey I am new to ubuntu and gnome in general how can I add the trash can to the desktop and how do I install JRE
[04:27] <jaykay> I added noacpi and acpi=off to grub boot menu but i still get this error when trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg, FATAL: Error inserting battery ...
[04:27] <Bhavesh> linksys PCMCIA card WPC54G using ndiswrapper, the card detects the wireless network, but can not associate any clue where to start?
[04:27] <linxeh> cens0red: why ? virtualbox does all I need :o
[04:28] <ghindo> endafy:  To install JRE, type "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre" into the terminal
[04:28] <Toba> argh
[04:28] <sapph424> rampage: Well, it depends on how long it has been since the deletion occured and how much writing to the disk has occurred.  If the deletion just happened, and they are REALLY REALLY important, I would immediately shut down, boot from a LiveCD, mount the hard drive in read only, make a bit copy to another device, and use a sector-based file scanner to try to find the data.  That is usually reserved for criminal investigations, however.
[04:28] <endafy> ty
[04:28] <Toba> truecrypt won't compi9le on ubuntu because of not having fuse.h
[04:28] <Toba> where do I get fuse headers?
[04:28] <c0deblank> How do I get Ubuntu to not tell me that Restricted drivers are in use? While it's all fine and dandy to know, I don't really need it in the taskbar/
[04:28] <jpw27_> ghindo:  don't know a bash command, but you can go into a python interpreter and do "print '\a'"
[04:28] <cens0red> linxeh well I've heard astounding claims from OSX, Intel Imac users about Parallels, how it has practically no drain on the system at all. I just want to know if it's like that in ubuntu.
[04:29] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, run this           sudo mkdir ~/.icons/Human && sudo mkdir ~/.icons/Human/scalable && sudo mkdir ~/.icons/Human/scalable/places && sudo cp /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/tomboy.png /~/.icons/Human/scalable/places/start-here.png && killall gnome-panel
[04:29] <MarcoDiego> ﻿﻿Bodsda: any ideia?
[04:29] <jpw27_> ghindo:  here's an bash command to do it: python -c "print '\a'" :)
[04:29] <linxeh> cens0red: it has as much load in osx as the app you are running... I use it in OSX regularly
[04:29] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, wait
[04:29] <endafy> how do I add the trash can to the desktop in gnome
[04:29] <Boohbah> jpw27_: that would actually be a python command :)
[04:29] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, run this           sudo mkdir ~/.icons/Human && sudo mkdir ~/.icons/Human/scalable && sudo mkdir ~/.icons/Human/scalable/places && sudo cp /usr/share/icons/hicolor/24x24/apps/tomboy.png ~/.icons/Human/scalable/places/start-here.png && killall gnome-panel
[04:29] <Jalathan> Bodsda,
[04:29] <linxeh> cens0red: virtualbox seems pretty much the same to me from ubuntu, I've not tried parallels thoughon ubuntu yet sorry
[04:29] <Jalathan> ...
[04:30] <cens0red> linxeh and virtualbox on ubuntu?
[04:30] <Bodsda> Jalathan, what?
[04:30] <Jalathan> shouldn't the ones in the homedir be without sudo?
[04:30] <jaykay> I added noacpi and acpi=off to grub boot menu but i still get this error when trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg, FATAL: Error inserting battery ...
[04:30] <endafy> virtualbox FTW unless you know what ur doing
[04:30] <linxeh> cens0red: yes, I use virtualbox to provide a standard win2k image to desktop machines
[04:30] <amenado> cens0red-> whats parallels? is that same as paravirtualizations like kvm, openvz?
[04:30] <cens0red> linxeh do u need a dual processing chip?
[04:30] <Bodsda> Jalathan, doesnt really matter but yeah
[04:30] <jpw27_> Boohbah:  that's why i prefaced it with 'dont know a bash command but" :)
[04:30] <Boohbah> cens0red: you need a virtual machine? go for virtualbox
[04:30] <linxeh> cens0red: no, but it helps
[04:30] <linxeh> amenado: yes
[04:30] <cens0red> Boohbah linxeh cheers. Will do.
[04:30] <linxeh> cens0red: you can always try the trial of parallels no doubt
[04:31] <Andreus> Guys, I now can't even get it started in recovery mode.
[04:31] <Andreus> Do you guys have any idea what's going on?
[04:31] <linxeh> cens0red: vmware is worth looking at too - the player is free, and you can use qemu tools to produce disk images for it etc
[04:31] <Bodsda> does mkdir have a recursive option?
[04:31] <cens0red> linxeh yeah but then I will no doubt have some pty trial software in my system somewhere.
[04:31] <amenado> okay, i tried openvz seem okay..am trying to learn the virtual ethernets on the vps
[04:31] <Jalathan> Bodsda, cp does i believe
[04:32] <Jalathan> mkdir doesn't
[04:32] <ghindo> jpw27_ Thanks, but that doesn't seem to work :(
[04:32] <linxeh> cens0red: pty ?
[04:32] <jpw27_> ghindo:  really? odd....
[04:32] <cens0red> linxeh proprietry.
[04:32] <Bodsda> Jalathan, i no cp does,.,. but why you cant make a folder and a sub dir with 1 mkdir command i can work out
[04:32] <cens0red> however it's spelled.
[04:32] <c0deblank> Does anyone know how to get rid of the notice's and the icon on the task bar that is telling me that proprietary drivers are in use?
[04:32] <Bodsda> can=cant*
[04:32] <linxeh> cens0red: so? remove it if you dont wat it. parallels will be proprietry too?
[04:32] <HappyHater> I keep getting 'C compiler cannot create executables' when trying to install a program, how do I fix that?
[04:32] <jaykay> I added noacpi and acpi=off to grub boot menu but i still get this error when trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg, FATAL: Error inserting battery ...
[04:33] <linxeh> HappyHater: apt-get install build-essential
[04:33] <Andreus> HappyHater: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:33] <Bodsda> HappyHater, what are you compiling?
[04:33] <HappyHater> awn dock
[04:33] <HappyHater> thanks
[04:33] <Bodsda> HappyHater, isnt that in repo's?
[04:33] <jpw27_> ghindo:  this exact copy and pasted thing? python -c "print '\a'"
[04:33] <cens0red> linxeh yeah that's what I'm talking about.
[04:33] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda : not working :(
[04:33] <jason0_> Anyone here run dual head w/ latest ubuntu and e17? I seem to get one spanning zone instead of 2. any ideas?
[04:34] <c0deblank> Bah, someone help me >_<
[04:34] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, dunno then sorry,.,. why do you want it if your on live cd anyway?
[04:34] <Jalathan> Bodsda, (this may help you, is in the man for mkdir) -p, --parents: no error if existing, make parent directories as needed
[04:34] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: not my computer
[04:34] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: would that work if the system were installed?
[04:34] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, so why do you want to change the icon if it will return to the previous icon next time its used?
[04:35] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, yes ive done it on mine,.although i downloaded an icon set then change it
[04:35] <ghindo> jpw27_ Yup, doesn't work
[04:35] <jpw27_> ghindo: weird
[04:35] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: to do it where i have the system installed
[04:35] <Bodsda> Jalathan, i dont think that helps me but thanks for looking
[04:35] <jpw27_> ghindo: does it output anything?
[04:35] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, search google?
[04:35] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: yes
[04:36] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: found a solution using conf-editor
[04:36] <ghindo> jpw27_ Nope.  I know I have Python installed, too...
[04:36] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: coping of files was not needed
[04:36] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, search this       "How to change the applications bar icon ubuntu"        dont use gconf that thing is confusing as hell
[04:36] <jpw27_> ghindo: very weird...does this system ever beep?
[04:36] <bigdaddy0522> hello all
[04:36] <bigdaddy0522> whats going on tonite?
[04:36] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: i search that
[04:36] <Bodsda> bigdaddy0522, helpin people
[04:37] <Bodsda> ghindo, whats your problem with python?
[04:37] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: i like more using gconf than coping files
[04:37] <cens0red> linxeh I only have a celeron 2800 with 1gig of ram.
[04:37] <sapph424> I'm getting the impression that the standard ubuntu install doesn't blast the drive, it just kinda overwrites.  I think that's the problem grub is having - there is already a grub on there - possibly a newer one.  Is there a command that will just kill every damned thing on the drive.  I don't need a secure wipe or anything like that.  I just don't need any installers getting confused about what may or may not have been installed previ
[04:37] <matthias_N> hi, how do i get the trash bin back that i used tio have in the grey bar in the bottom ...
[04:37] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, ok,. then look for gconf tuts,,.i personally dont like it but thats my opinion
[04:38] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: know if would this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=572712 work if the system were installed?
[04:38] <Bodsda> sapph424, boot live cd then use    gparted    to delete all partitions
[04:38] <sapph424> matthias:  right click on task bar, Add to Panel, Trash.
[04:38] <Bodsda> MarcoDiego, im not sure, sorry
[04:38] <MarcoDiego> ﻿Bodsda: ok thanx
[04:38] <Andreus> So I've got two problems now. One essentially dupes this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=472056 and the other one, which manifests at startup in recovery mode, is an expanded version, where by it keeps saying "soft resetting link", "EH complete"
[04:39] <matthias_N> sapph424:  i di but it does not show up ...
[04:39] <ghindo> jpw27_:  I tried it on two systems, and they both beep
[04:39] <Miesco_> How do I find a song in audacious, I got like over 4k songs
[04:39] <Andreus> It looks like at least the first one is widespread. Does anyone have any suggestions? It is not my harddrive that is faulty.
[04:39] <ghindo> Bodsda:  I was trying to make the system beep.
[04:39] <Janice8954> Actually it seems I owe you all an apology.
[04:39] <matthias_N> sapph424:  with volume control i can but not on trash ...
[04:39] <Bodsda> matthias_N, delete the panel and make a new one
[04:39] <Janice8954> Upon further research I've discovered that it it impossible to "wipe" a single file.
[04:40] <Bodsda> Janice8954, what do you mean 'wipe' a single file?
[04:40] <matthias_N> Bodsda:  thank you i will unless there is a way without deleting ...
[04:40] <Janice8954> Which leaves me a question. If format the HDD and do a fresh install of Ubuntu, will that destroy the files in question?
[04:40] <Bodsda> matthias_N, its quicker just to delete it then make a new one honest
[04:41] <BZWingZero> Janice8954: Try using "shred", it should throughly destroy anything.
[04:41] <Boohbah> i thought 'wipe' was something one did to one's ass
[04:41] <Bodsda> Janice8954, if you delete/format the partitions then probably yes
[04:41] <sapph424> janice: No
[04:41] <Janice8954> It doesn't.
[04:41] <Bodsda> !ohmy | Boohbah
[04:41] <Bhavesh> i would think you would have to write zero's over the drive
[04:41] <Boohbah> Bodsda: everyone shits. deal with it.
[04:41] <Janice8954> sapphh424: what have I to do?
[04:41] <matthias_N> Bodsda:  ok
[04:42] <candive> hello ubottu
[04:42] <sapph424> janice: removing a partition doesn't actually remove any of the data.  If you are willing to lose the whole drive?
[04:42] <Bodsda> !ohmy | Boohbah -- seriously, watch your language and behavior
[04:42] <ezzieyguywuf> I am on the internet now wirelessly, but my wlan LED on my thinkpad is not on AND my network-manager applet in my toolbar does not show any wireless networks. any help?
[04:42] <genii> Janice8954: The average savvy computer geek will find it difficult to recover data from a repartitioned and reformatted drive. You may need to worry about the FBI
[04:42] <rampageoberon> Janice8954: check the package shred
[04:42] <Janice8954> I said. If I format it not remove a partition.
[04:42] <BZWingZero> Janice8954: The easiest way to wipe an entire drive is to boot to a live disk and use shred from the terminal. By default it overrights 25 times (iirc), howver you can change the amount of overrights.
[04:42] <Andreus> Anyone got any ideas?
[04:43] <sapph424> Janice:  If you are willing to lose every bit of data on the drive, you can boot from a live cd and run this command:
[04:43] <sapph424> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda
[04:43] <rampageoberon> lol
[04:43] <sapph424> janice: replacing hda with the device for the hard drive in question
[04:43] <[Gork]> ellow
[04:43] <matthias_N> Bodsda:  did but no trash shows up
[04:43] <jason0_> Anyone know how to enable xinerama information w/ 8.04 + nvidia?
[04:43] <sapph424> janice: It will overwrite iver single byte with random data
[04:43] <Janice8954> that is the device in question actualyly.
[04:43] <candive> ubottu is cool!
[04:43] <Jordan_U> Janice8954, I suggest thermite :)
[04:44] <Bodsda> matthias_N, even with the new panel? try        killall gnome-panel        then try again
[04:44] <Janice8954> Why don't you guys realize that those programs are only smoke and mirrors.
[04:44] <Bodsda> !msgthebot | candive
[04:44] <BZWingZero> Janice8954: Or "shred -vz -n 5 /dev/hda" will overwright the data 5 times with random data, then zero the drive.
[04:44] <sapph424> If you are really really worried about it, do it about 20 times
[04:44] <Bhavesh> i would think 2 times would be more then enough
[04:44] <rampageoberon> Janice8954: do remember it is bad for the hard drive if you do that
[04:45] <matthias_N> Bodsda:  yes with an new panel it does not appear ...
[04:45] <BZWingZero> Just remember, it takes a very long time.
[04:45] <Bhavesh> or if you really want to clean it up.. run shred command and then run it under a very strong magnet
[04:45] <Janice8954> How about I just use my Acer Factory resto disc to restore Vista. Then go back over that with Ubuntu?
[04:45] <[Gork]> does anyone know how to get glibc and glibc-dev?
[04:45] <Janice8954> Magnets don't work either.
[04:45] <rampageoberon> i wouldn't want to unnecessarily write stuff to the dive, more wear and tesat
[04:45] <rampageoberon> *tear
[04:45] <Janice8954> The metal casing shields the drive from that.
[04:45] <Bodsda> matthias_N, not sure then ,.,.sorry
[04:45] <matthias_N> Bodsda:  ok ...
[04:45] <rampageoberon> Janice8954: please stop now, you have had several solutions
[04:45] <rampageoberon> Janice8954: use one of them
[04:46] <webwulf> shred works great to wipe a drive, just prepare for it to take a long time if the drive is big
[04:46] <sapph424> janice: Smoke and mirrors?  I secure classified data for a living.  You REALLY want to be secure?  DoD secure?  Fine.  Get a 2" titanium drill bit and put as many holes in the platters as you can fit.   Can we be done now?
[04:46] <Janice8954> We are thanks.
[04:46] <sapph424> Super.
[04:46] <Bodsda> !nickspam | Alan_M  Hi dude:
[04:46] <rampageoberon> sapph424: yeah i read about that somewhere on the register or inquirer
[04:47] <Hilikus> im using jfs and everytime my computer shuts down because of a power outage my jfs partition doesnt mount. my ext3 and xfs partitions probably have issues with that too but they repair themselves (im assuming). the jfs partition i always have to manually run jfs_fsck which always works and fixes it. is there a way to let the system try that if the partition doesnt mount instead of my running the same command manually every time?
[04:47] <Janice8954> Clearly I will figure this on my own with the help of an FBI Computer Foresic Scientist.
[04:47] <sapph424> Personally, I find that to be a bit message.  I disassemble the drive (torx is your friend!) and run the platters through a crosscut disc shredder.
[04:47] <Alan_M> Sorry Bodsda :)
[04:47] <Bodsda> Alan_M, apology accepted ;~)
[04:47] <sapph424> Good gods below, she was annoying.
[04:47] <Bodsda> +1 @ sapph424
[04:47] <sapph424> /s/message/messy
[04:47] <rampageoberon> sapph424: indeed
[04:48] <genii> sapph424: I entirely empathise
[04:48] <sapph424> The only thing worse than users that are not paranoid enough are users that are too paranoid.  Sheesh. ;p
[04:48] <matthias_N> Bodsda:  on what does the trashbin sit, or what is it named ?
[04:49] <Bhavesh> sapph424 ah the wonders of trying to help someone :)
[04:49] <rampageoberon> !trash | matthias_N
[04:49]  * nickrud thinks, reading back, it's a good thing he wasn't paying attention
[04:49] <Bhavesh> how paranoid can you possibly get?
[04:49] <Bodsda> matthias_N, the applet you are trying to get is simply a launcher which does      nautilus ~/.local/share/Trash
[04:49] <zil> I need to stress test our mail server and do some statistics to see what AV is fastest, so far I have only found mail bomb apps that do the job but produce no analytics so we have to use a stopwatch... I have found no propor apps and was wondering if anyone can recommend anything? please pm me as I will be going away from pc
[04:49] <kushal1> Bhavesh, think tin foil caps
[04:49]  * Bodsda thinks nickrud did the smart thing
[04:50] <Bhavesh> kushal1 scary!
[04:50] <jaykay> I added noacpi and acpi=off to grub boot menu but i still get this error when trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg, FATAL: Error inserting battery ...
[04:50] <nickrud> !feedthetroll
[04:50] <yell0w> what program does gnome use to set the wallpaper ?
[04:50] <kushal1> ok
[04:51] <nickrud> yell0w nautilus draws the desktop, including the desktop background
[04:51] <sapph424> So - what command can I do to blow away the partitions, the mbr, grub, everything on a drive?
[04:51] <Bodsda> nickrud, compiz can override it no?
[04:51] <yell0w> ahh ok thanks nickrud
[04:51] <ezzieyguywuf> my network-manager tray applet is not showing any of my wireless networks. i know theres a few around here. I am, however, connected wirelessly. what could be causing this?
[04:52] <Bodsda> sapph424, are you asking for the one command to delete everything which we are not allowed to say in this channel?
[04:52] <nickrud> Bodsda possibly. Would be interesting to see how they hand off
[04:52] <Bhavesh> anyone got linksys WPC54G working with linksys router?  i have the card working, it finds the network but won't associate/attach to it
[04:52] <Bodsda> nickrud, i doubt compiz would do very well due to its ati compatibility probs
[04:52] <Renate> ok... i've read myself stupid and it still isnt working.  how do i launch a windows app (ms wireless keyboard/mouse)in .wine, from /root?  i have the .exe on my desktop and on the driver disk.  keeps giving me the error: cant find volume to launch, you sure you have permissions? (yes, i even upgraded the .wine and did the winetricks/native thing.  i have ubuntu 8.
[04:52] <Alan_M> ezzieyguywuf, i have the same issue, sometimes you just have to click the applet, then click connect to other wireless network...and type in the network you want, its annoying, i know..but thats a work around :)
[04:52] <ezzieyguywuf> i'm running compiz fine with ati
[04:52] <nickrud> Bodsda and I don't remember seeing anything about setting backgrounds in ccsm either
[04:52] <matthias_N> Bodsda:  can i create an launcher and than getinto the grey bar ???
[04:52] <webwulf> does anyone know any other good educational software repos for edubuntu?
[04:53] <Andreus> OK, guys. Once again: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=472056 on boot. When recovery mode is started, I get device retrieval errors, and then the same error again.
[04:53] <nickrud> ati works just fine with compiz, I've watched it get reasonable ;)
[04:53] <Andreus> Any ideas?
[04:53] <ezzieyguywuf> alan_m: well its good to know its not an isolated incident for me
[04:53] <sapph424> Bod - I am not asking for the romeo mike command.  Files - I don't care about.  I need something that will get rid of lower level than that.  the mbr and grub especially.  If you can't say it in channel, then please, pm it
[04:53] <akahige> in Gutsy, you could change uid from admin --> users, but this was removed from Hardy. was there an official explanation for this, or did they just move where/how you can do this...?
[04:53] <Bodsda> matthias_N, right click on panel, add new custom launcher -- use the command       nautilus ~/.local/share/Trash
[04:53] <xborgy> what other program can i use besides the ATI Control Center to tinker with my dual monitors?
[04:53] <nickrud> sapph424 run cfdisk and delete the partitions
[04:54] <Alan_M> ezzieyguywuf, im not sure of WHAT causes this, but thats a fix that worked for me, your results may differ.
[04:54] <nickrud> sapph424 just what are you trying to accomplish? mbr & grub is not 'blow away the partitions'
[04:55] <Bodsda> nickrud, its a not finished plugin for compiz that was designed to give 4 different wallpapers, 1 for each dekstop its called   wllpaperz
[04:55] <jaykay> I added noacpi and acpi=off to grub boot menu but i still get this error when trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg, FATAL: Error inserting battery ...
[04:55]  * nickrud salivates
[04:55] <sapph424> nickrud:  In addition to blow away the partitions, I want to blow away any trace of grub or the mbr - I want the next time I try an install for there to be not so much as a trace of the last install.
[04:55]  * Alan_M kicks nickrud a drool bucket :)
[04:55] <nickrud> sapph424 run the live cd, and run cfdisk and delete every partition on the disk
[04:56] <sapph424> I'm on the livecd already (since I can't make the install work).  I've deleted all the partitions, but since the installer is hanging specifically on GRUB each time, I want to make sure that's gone too
[04:57] <xborgy> what other program can i use besides the ATI Control Center to tinker with my dual monitors? The gnome-display-properties only allows me to choose 1 display which i do have two monitors.
[04:57] <Bodsda> sapph424, you may need the alternate installer,.,or manual partition and have a seperate /boot partition
[04:57] <rj_> hi there
[04:57] <Andreus> I really need help on this, guys, I can't find a solution anywhere on google or the forums.
[04:57] <xborgy> the ATI Control Center allows me to use Big Desktop but its making my monitor to my right the 1st monitor.
[04:58] <rampageoberon> hello rj_
[04:58] <sapph424> I will try that next.  I like to try one thing at a time so I can know what the solution is.  This one thing is 'blast the drive' :)
[04:58] <magic_ninja> xborgy, switch the cables
[04:58] <nickrud> sapph424 and for the mbr,   dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[04:58] <xborgy> my main monitor is on the DVI port the 2nd is on the VGA. (Main monitor only is DVI)
[04:58] <magic_ninja> Andreus, go ahead
[04:58] <rj_> im a newbie in linux. i want to know more bout hacking with wireless
[04:58] <Andreus> Two problems. Firstly, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=472056 on startup.
[04:58] <Kohlrak> Can some one tell me why the following code generates a floating point exception in linux?: add rdx, 0x30
[04:59] <xborgy> should i use the DVI to VGA adpater?
[04:59] <Andreus> Normal startup just constantly loops this error message ad infinitum.
[04:59] <rampageoberon> rj_: pardon?
[04:59] <Starnestommy> Andreus: it could be a problem with the hard disk
[04:59] <Renate> anyone have any ideas?  <Renate> ok... how do i launch a windows app (ms wireless keyboard/mouse)in .wine, from /root?  i have the .exe on my desktop and on the driver disk.  keeps giving me the error: cant find volume to launch, you sure you have permissions? (yes, i even upgraded the .wine and did the winetricks/native thing.  i have ubuntu 8
[04:59] <Bodsda> rj_, if your a linux newbie id suggest not trying to hack anything
[04:59] <linuxpenguin207> i just upgraded to 2.6.24-18. what are some of the new features?
[04:59] <Andreus> Starnestommy: It isn't, it's a new machine.
[04:59] <addison> every time i try to update to ppc gutsy i get a blue screen after restarting.
[04:59] <Renate> the set worked fine, until the most recent upgrade/update, then they disappeared
[04:59] <Bodsda> Renate, sudo wine /path/to/exe
[04:59] <Andreus> And yes, I know it's possible that they delivered it with a faulty hard-drive. I just think given the fact that it CAN boot (very occasionally) that it isn't.
[04:59] <linuxpenguin207> addison: ppc is no longer supported in hardy
[04:59] <xborgy> magic_ninja: will i lose quality from my LCD monitor if i use the DVI to VGA adpater?
[05:00] <xborgy> my card only has one vga one dvi
[05:00] <Renate> bodsda:  thanks, will try that one
[05:00] <addison> im updating to gutsy not hardy
[05:00] <nickrud> linuxpenguin207 you can see the changes at /usr/share/doc/linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic/changelog.Debian.gz
[05:00] <xborgy> i need my main monitor on the DVI
[05:00] <Jordan_U> addison, That doesn't mean we won't try to help though :)
[05:00] <linuxpenguin207> nickrud: wouldn't i have to untar that first?
[05:00] <sapph424> thanks nickurd.  It takes about 15 min for the livecd to boot.  If you don't see me again in the next 24 hours, consider your solution the winner. :)
[05:01] <magic_ninja> xborgy, probably, but i doubt its noticable
[05:01] <nickrud> linuxpenguin207 if you use less, it will unzip on the fly
[05:01] <rj_> thanx bodsda. so, wat do i should do?well, im into linux because of hacking. i reall need a guide where do i should go 1st..
[05:01] <Bhavesh> back
[05:01] <xborgy> magic_ninja: why does it work just fine though in windows?
[05:01] <xborgy> without having to change the cables?
[05:01] <rampageoberon> rj_: you've come to the wrong place
[05:01] <magic_ninja> xborgy, use a dvi to vga adapter
[05:01] <nickrud> sapph424 thanks for leaving out the 't' ;P
[05:01] <matthias_N__>  Bodsda what option keeps the minimized program in the grey bar ...
[05:02] <rj_> so...where do i should go.
[05:02] <critta> Hello. I am having some sound troubles. I can get sound fine in Pidgin, Rhythmbox and Firefox, but not all three at the same time.
[05:02] <xborgy> magic_ninja: i would have to use two of them i dont have two of them.
[05:02] <rampageoberon> rj_: somewhere else, anywhere else
[05:02] <webwulf> rj_ use knoppix
[05:02] <rj_> okay...
[05:02] <magic_ninja> xborgy, i'm inexperienced with this type of thing, but that seems, generally the simplest solution, or switch the monitors around if you can
[05:02] <phil> yeah critta, i have the same prob too.
[05:02] <Bhavesh> i am hoping this update will fix the problem with linksys wireless card
[05:02] <addison> whenever i update from feisty to gutsy on ppc when i try logging in i get a blue screen
[05:02] <Jordan_U> critta, Are you viewing flash videos in Firefox?
[05:02] <rj_> owh...is it much friendly than ubuntu?
[05:02] <Boohbah> rj_: /join #security
[05:02] <Andreus> My computer has now been chugging essentially the same error message out three times a minute for the past three hours.
[05:03] <nickrud> rj_ we have a policy of not facilitating aircrack or the like
[05:03] <critta> Yes.
[05:03] <linuxpenguin207> thanks
[05:03] <afallenhope> is there a reason why when I do sudo deluser --remove-all-files testbox it doesn't remove their home directory?
[05:03] <rampageoberon> rj_: try using gentoo! you will find it much helpful
[05:03] <critta> Woah, I just fixed it.
[05:03] <|Juan|> help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[05:03] <xborgy> magic_ninja: thanks for trying to help.
[05:03] <rj_> owh... now I see.tahnx a lot dude.
[05:03] <Boohbah> rj_: yes, gentoo is good too
[05:03] <Bhavesh> congrats
[05:03] <nickrud> afallenhope you need to use --remove-home
[05:03] <Jordan_U> critta, , I think the problem is that flash does not work with pulseaudio yet, you have a few options if that is the problem you are having. 1: install libflashsupport to get in development and still buggy ( makes flash less stable ) support for flash in pulseaudio 2: stop using pulseaudio and instead use ALSA directly ( this can be done from System -> Preferences -> Sound )
[05:03] <critta> I went to System -> Preferencs -> Sound and changed everything to PulseAudio.
[05:04] <addison> i need ppc help
[05:04] <Boohbah> critta: good luck with that
[05:04] <xborgy> there has got to be something to change priority or which monitor is the default though right?
[05:04] <genii> afallenhope: You might want to add --remove-home
[05:04] <Jordan_U> critta, Were you shak- earlier today?
[05:04] <critta> Nope.
[05:04] <genii> nickrud: Sorry didn't see your reply
[05:04] <xborgy> hard to beleive it dont just work like it does in windows.
[05:04] <nickrud> addison it's pretty tiny, but sometimes there's help in #ubuntu-ppc . Mostly devs there, but they do take pity on people with specific questions if they have the time
[05:04] <afallenhope> genii & nickrud: I do add that but it still doesn't
[05:04] <xborgy> nothing actually just works in ubuntu so far.
[05:04] <nickrud> genii no problem, sometimes repetition reassures people
[05:05] <xborgy> i think i need to go back to LFS and make sure everything works.
[05:05] <Andreus> xborgy: Don't I know it.
[05:05] <rj_> why does linux developer didnt create games for linux
[05:05] <xborgy> i miss LFS>
[05:05] <Nanoer> hey i've imported some themes into the emerald theme manager but how do i put them into effect? I tried emerald --replace but it returns to the old theme whenever i use the desktop cube effect
[05:06] <rampageoberon> rj_: linux games do exist
[05:06] <xborgy> its the best linux in the world
[05:06] <Alan_M> !games | rj_
[05:06] <genii> Hmm.
[05:06] <nickrud> afallenhope just ran a test here, it worked
[05:06] <rampageoberon> afallenhope: it works here too
[05:06] <rampageoberon> so no idea why yours is not working
[05:07] <Nanoer> anyone know?
[05:07] <webwulf> I need educational programs for edubuntu, anyone know of others that are not in the standard repos?
[05:08] <rj_> i mean doesnt like games for windows. you can found it anywhere. in my country, most of the linux user is hacker.
[05:08] <linuxpenguin207> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18957/plain/
[05:08] <xborgy> Andreus: yeah most of all these people making their own distros is going to newbies and the problem is there isnt enough help for the newbies.With Linux From Scratch everything will work perfectly because you have to build it all from scratch.
[05:08] <afallenhope> nickrud & rampageoberon: look at this: http://pastebin.com/d5baaa272
[05:08] <Andreus> xborgy: I am a complete Linux newb. I just want a distro that will run Ventrilo, apache2, mySQL and Icecast without having to jump through a bunch of hoops.
[05:09] <badassmuther> webwulf: look in Applications>Add/Remove>Education
[05:09] <Jordan_U> webwulf, sugar and related apps from the One Laptop Per child project
[05:09] <rj_> and there is no linux games that i can buy at the shop.
[05:09] <grad> test
[05:09] <xborgy> Andreus: cool
[05:09] <Andreus> Right now, my completely new computer hovers between a state of bricked and un-bricked and I can't really work out what exactly it hinges on when one boot in recovery mode will work and another won't.
[05:09] <nickrud> afallenhope try it without the --remove-all-files
[05:09] <Nanoer> rj_: the point of linux games is that their free..
[05:09] <linuxpenguin207> does google have google earth for linux?
[05:09] <xborgy> Andreus: i want something that works and linux isnt it heheheh
[05:09] <xborgy> windows and mac is
[05:10] <xborgy> we all know that.
[05:10] <afallenhope> nickrud: that works.. but why doesn't it work with the --remove-all-files?
[05:10] <rampageoberon> linuxpenguin207: yes
[05:10] <Andreus> Yeah, but I wouldn't be here if I could just use Windows or Mac.
[05:10] <rampageoberon> !medibuntu | linuxpenguin207
[05:10] <ireland> Hi and thx in advance. I'm runing ubuntu studio 7.10 and have been trying to update to 8.04 but when i start the Update Manager it gives me an error saying "W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de stable Release....  NO_PUBKEY" I've also tried updateing of a mounted .ISO but have no luck. I can update packets after i close the error msg but there is't an opp to update to 8.04. can any one help me?
[05:10] <nickrud> afallenhope the man page for deluser explains it
[05:10] <xborgy> Andreus: i just jumped into Ubuntu Studio to try it then i kinda like it but it has way way too many issues.
[05:11] <soldats> linuxpenguin207: yes but you should still look at the link above
[05:11] <jeremey> is there a less chaotic intermediate chat?
[05:11] <In-Sane``> where do i find games for ubuntu?
[05:11] <rj_> do you know which linux distro that really suitable for "Aspire 4520 laptop"?
[05:11] <xborgy> and nothing Ubuntu Studio has compares to Cubase SX
[05:11] <tyler_> Has anyone here got SHOUTcast working with IDJC?
[05:11] <xborgy> or Adobe Photosho[
[05:11] <linuxpenguin207> soldats: what link?
[05:11] <rampageoberon> rj_: try different ones and find out
[05:11] <xborgy> The Gimp is just too plain.
[05:11] <afallenhope> nickrud: no it doesn't.. because it keeps the home dir
[05:11] <Alan_M> !games | In-Sane``
[05:11] <rj_> ok.. i keep that in mind.
[05:12] <ezzieyguywuf> is ubuntu studio just ubuntu with a bunch of audio apps installed? b/c i agree that it has issues and am thinking a/b reverting to regular 'ol ubuntu and then installing those apps
[05:12] <soldats> linuxpenguin207: the link ubott_u gave you from rampageoberon
[05:12] <nickrud> afallenhope the home dir is not the files :)
[05:12] <nickrud> afallenhope try it again, but check to see if the files disappear, but not the home dir itself
[05:12] <Alan_M> In-Sane``, also, check the add/remove applications menu item under the applications menu, there is a "games" subsection.
[05:12] <soldats> linuxpenguin207: in short open synaptics and search for google earth
[05:12] <tyler_> Has anyone here got SHOUTcast working with IDJC?
[05:13] <Alan_M> In-Sane``, sorry, not add remove applications, just "add/remove" under "applications" menu.
[05:13] <xborgy> ezzieyguywuf: that and it has the rtprio.py thingy set to 99 for highest priority making the kernel a low latency kernel.
[05:13] <rampageoberon> linuxpenguin207: you need to add the medibuntu repo to you sources.list first
[05:13] <In-Sane``> Alan_M: yep, got it there, thanks
[05:13] <soldats> tyler_: i know someone who has so i know it very possible. he runa  streaming server
[05:13] <Hilikus> im using jfs and everytime my computer shuts down because of a power outage my jfs partition doesnt mount. my ext3 and xfs partitions probably have issues with that too but they repair themselves (im assuming). the jfs partition i always have to manually run jfs_fsck which always works and fixes it. is there a way to let the system try that if the partition doesnt mount instead of my running the same command manually every time?
[05:13] <komies> Hi, I'm a new user and having some trouble setting up my wireless. I'm pretty sure I need to download the drivers, but i'm not sure where or how to go about that, if anyone could help me I'd appreciate it.
[05:13] <xborgy> the rtprio.py is telling @sound to have 99
[05:13] <ezzieyguywuf> yea well i don't really have latency issues, so i don't think thats a problem
[05:13] <Alan_M> In-Sane``, welcome :)
[05:13] <nickrud> but I'm getting a very weird bug, when I add a user pam claims the account has expired!
[05:14] <BJ_> Does anyone know anything about Kubuntu
[05:14] <xborgy> Kubuntu = KDE
[05:14] <rampageoberon> !ask | BJ
[05:14] <BJ_> Is it better than ubuntu?
[05:14] <xborgy> i dont like KDE 4
[05:14] <mystery_> hi
[05:14] <Boohbah> BJ_: try it out and decide
[05:14] <linuxpenguin207> soldats: i was just asking as a suggestion to help out webwulf
[05:14] <Alan_M> !kubuntu | BJ_
[05:14] <BJ_> hello
[05:14] <ireland> komies: http://www.linuxwireless.org/
[05:14] <rampageoberon> BJ_: its upto what you prefer
[05:14] <linuxpenguin207> webwulf: check out http://earth.google.com/ig/directory?synd=earth&pid=earth&num=6&cat=featured&dl=linux&hl=en
[05:14] <komies> ireland: thank you :)
[05:14] <xborgy> BJ_: you should try Ubuntu Ulitimate Edition.
[05:14] <rj_> wat is different between ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, & xubuntu. is there any privileges in each package
[05:14] <tyler_> soldats_: The server connect button doesn't pop up o i cant click which means i cant connect
[05:15] <BJ_> I was just wondering?
[05:15] <ireland> komies: welcome
[05:15] <rampageoberon> rj_: google is your friend
[05:15] <rj_> owh...thanx
[05:15] <Boohbah> xborgy: sounds like a play on vista :)
[05:15] <ezzieyguywuf> what is cubase?
[05:15] <Jordan_U> xborgy, BJ_ Ubuntu ultimate is not an official 'version' of Ubuntu and last I looked was poorly hacked together
[05:15] <afallenhope> nickrud: no the files stay.
[05:15] <linuxpenguin207> isn't edubuntu just ubuntu with education plugins and apps
[05:15] <Boohbah> ezzieyguywuf: a digital audio workstation
[05:15] <BJ_> Seems like KDE isnt very stable
[05:15] <Ubuntu_Noob> Can ubuntu boot from NAS ??
[05:15] <satanas> hi there, i'm trying to watch the wwdc '08 keynote from apple.com, but totem fails to play the stream, it says something about a missing text/html decoder, i've been googling with no success , any ideas?
[05:15] <tyler_> its to bad vista has so many problems. Its graphics and desktop enviroment is realy kewl
[05:16] <Andreus> OK, yet again, people. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/223088 seems to be a more detailed description of the problem.
[05:16] <Ubuntu_Noob> pls someone guide me
[05:16] <xborgy> Boohbah: lol
[05:16] <Ubuntu_Noob> Can ubuntu boot from NAS ??
[05:16] <rampageoberon> satanas: this on firefox?
[05:16] <Alan_M> linuxpenguin207, thats correct.
[05:16] <xborgy> Jordan_U: ive installed it its fine.
[05:16] <linuxpenguin207> oh. okay.
[05:16] <satanas> rampageoberon, yep
[05:16] <Jordan_U> linuxmonkey, And support for thin clients and generaly useful tools in a school environment
[05:16] <nickrud> afallenhope then they are conflicting options. You might check for a bug report on bugs.ubuntu.com , and file one against adduser with an explanation of what is happening. Either the docs will change or the behaviour will change
[05:16] <soldats> linuxpenguin207: well just as i said do a search for it in synaptics but make sure you have the medibuntu repos enabled and he/she should be able to install it
[05:16] <rampageoberon> satanas: remove the totem plugins for mozilla and install mpayer plugins for mozilla
[05:16] <xborgy> there is even a Ubuntu Christmas Edition.
[05:17] <rampageoberon> satanas: i found totem didn't work for some reason
[05:17] <xborgy> which comes with everything!!!
[05:17] <Jordan_U> !worksforme | xborgy
[05:17] <ireland> Ubuntu_noob: just ask don't ask to ask
[05:17] <Flynsarmy> Is it possible to get nautilus to automatically reconnect to an sftp url when it gets booted instead of redirecting to /home folder? I think it used to do this for me but doesn't anymore
[05:17] <Ubuntu_Noob> ireland ??
[05:17] <xborgy> freedom baby!
[05:17] <xborgy> i have it.
[05:17] <ireland> Ubuntu_noob: what you need?
[05:17] <linuxpenguin207> where could i find information on firefox 3 for linux release dates?
[05:17] <akahige> any networking gurus in here...?
[05:17] <yell0w> where is the "start x" config file that shows the login prompt ?
[05:17] <linuxpenguin207> oh wait never mind
[05:18] <Alan_M> !ask | akahige
[05:18] <Ubuntu_Noob> i want to know can ubuntu boot from any Network attached storage device ??
[05:18] <threethirty> hello all
[05:18] <rampageoberon> satanas: sudo aptitude purge totem-mozilla
[05:18] <Alan_M> hello threethirty
[05:18] <Jordan_U> Ubuntu_Noob, It can, don't ask me how to do it though :0
[05:18] <rampageoberon> satanas: sudo aptitude install mozilla-mplayer
[05:18] <Jordan_U> :)
[05:18] <Ubuntu_Noob> any guide pls :)
[05:18] <tyler_> Does anyone here know anything about IDJC?
[05:19] <Ubuntu_Noob> my computer has option to boot from network
[05:19] <threethirty> im trying to build gnome-do and ./configure checked for gmcs, anyone know what that is?
[05:19] <Ubuntu_Noob> but what parameters i should give in etc/fstab ??
[05:19] <xborgy> !ask | tyler_
[05:19] <GuillermoB> I'm having a problem installing libgtk2.0-dev, it asks for libgtk.2.0-0 version 2.12.9-3ubuntu4, but i have version 2.12.9-4ubuntu3 installed. is there any way to force libgtk2.0-dev to install?
[05:20] <Jordan_U> !netboot | Ubuntu_Noob
[05:20] <akahige> smb used to work for me, but in the last few days it's gone totally FUBAR. can't write more than 1k/s, timeouts, failures, etc.  the forum is full of people having similar probs. and NO solutions. (there were a lot of updates in the past few days, but I can't tell if they broke it, or broke it worse than it was)
[05:20] <afallenhope> is there a way of updating adduser/deluser?
[05:20] <afallenhope> because --remove-home works but --remove-all-files doesn't remove the home dir
[05:20] <Starnestommy> threethirty: you mau need to install mono and mono-gmcs
[05:20] <Ubuntu_Noob> thx ubotu
[05:20] <Sonja> how do i identify my exact video card
[05:20] <Jalathan> akahige: have you tried to use the -17 kernel?
[05:20] <Sonja> thru ubuntu
[05:21] <tyler_> When i try to connect on IDJC i realy cant. Im on SHOUTcast and the server connect button just wont pop uo so i cant click it. But the ICECAST one does. If i cant click i cant connect. Any Ideas?
[05:21] <linuxpenguin207> does anybody know that url of that version of ubuntu of the eee pc?
[05:21] <rampageoberon> linuxpenguin207: isn't that a modified distro and not ubuntu?
[05:21] <akahige> ﻿Jalathan: no. I'm on the -18 kernel (and have deleted the -17 for space). is it a kernel prob?
[05:21] <Flynsarmy> Is it possible to get nautilus to automatically reconnect to an sftp url when it gets booted instead of redirecting to /home folder? I think it used to do this for me but doesn't anymore
[05:21] <Chrasange> OK! So I got Ubuntu 8.04 LTS in the mail, it's from holland, i install and now when I log in it just flickers and asks me to log in...again, NO desktop works, except Failsafe Terminal, help any?
[05:21] <xett> hi
[05:21] <jmhealey> can anyone help me fix a 'failed' gutsy to hardy upgrade on this laptop?
[05:21] <Alan_M> afallenhope, try updating through synaptic or go to system->administration->update-manager
[05:22] <Andreus> There's got to be a solution to this.
[05:22] <linuxpenguin207> rampageoberon: yes i belive it is
[05:22] <linuxpenguin207> i saw it on digg once
[05:22] <jmhealey> gdm will not start properly unless i select a 2.6.22 kernel
[05:22] <ata2> hello everybody, ubuntu user here. to install new packages in redhat, can you use directly "rpm" like I do with "apt-get"? It seems to me that rpm is mainly for installing rather than downloading them from a repository like for the latter. Is this the case?
[05:22] <xett> i´m running ubuntu 8.04 and have tried to install slackware on a second partition. as you may know, slackware runs lilo, not grub, and i´m having trouble installing slack into grub.
[05:23] <ireland> Hi and thx in advance. I'm runing ubuntu studio 7.10 and have been trying to update to 8.04 but when i start the Update Manager it gives me an error saying "W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de stable Release....  NO_PUBKEY" I've also tried updateing of a mounted .ISO but have no luck. I can update packets after i close the error msg but there is't an opp to update to 8.04. can any one help me?
[05:23] <candive> Hello, How do I stop my laptop from switching screens when I use my touch pad. can the extra screen be disabled? Thank you.
[05:23] <Jalathan> akahige: i've noticed that the -18 kernel has issues, the -19 might fix some of them (it is in the pre-released repo, use only if you don't mind having the possiblity of more issues))
[05:23] <Jordan_U> Andreus, Did the upgrade complete "successfully" or was it possibly stopped mid upgrade?
[05:23] <Alan_M> ata2, rpm is more for installing, correct, you cant download with a package manager like rpm or dpkg.
[05:23] <Chrasange> hm, no help?
[05:23] <jmhealey> my gdm will not start after a hardy to gutsy upgrade unless i choose the 2.6.22-14 kernel
[05:23] <Andreus> Jordan_U: They always complete successfully
[05:23] <ata2> Alan_M: is there anything built in redhat with a repository element?
[05:23] <xett> is this the right place for a slackware and ubuntu problem?
[05:24]  * Jalathan is afk
[05:24] <akahige> ﻿Jalathan: more issues is NOT something I need right now.  what kind of issues are you seeing?
[05:24] <Jordan_U> ata2, yum = apt-get, dpkg = rpm ( pretty much :)
[05:24] <Jalathan> akahige: stability more than anything
[05:24] <jga> I'm having ssh issues, I can connect over the lan, but when I'm on wireless it times out, any ideas?
[05:24] <Alan_M> Jordan_U, thanks buddy, beat me to it :)
[05:24] <ata2> Jordan_U: thanks :)
[05:24] <Andreus> Aha!
[05:24] <ata2> lol
[05:24] <tmapj> my computer keeps booting up to the bluetooth configuration file. can anyone help me out?
[05:24] <ata2> thanks everybody
[05:24] <Andreus> Guys, I found a temporay solution!
[05:24] <Chrasange> OK, so I got HardyHeron and NONE of the desktops will log in, any idea?
[05:24] <Jordan_U> ata2, np
[05:24] <Andreus> It works OK if you boot SATA in RAID mode!
[05:24] <Jalathan> akahige: i skipped the -18 kernel, but am finding the -19 is unstable for my use
[05:25] <Andreus> Of course, that only works if you use ubuntu as your sole O/S
[05:25] <akahige> ﻿Jalathan: would that effect smb? that's not kernel level, is it?
[05:25] <satanas> rampageoberon, mplayer also fails to stream ^^... I tried totem cuz I was desperate :P
[05:25] <Jalathan> akahige: i'm afraid that i'm not sure, however it would likely affect the network abilities of the device
[05:26] <artabrahao> Hi, can I install the ubuntu on a removable HD and from a windows start ubuntu?
[05:26] <TheFool> satanas: interesting, I was having problems with totem locking up the whole system
[05:26] <Chrasange> When I do a hardware check it say I am connected to the internet and it detects my card, i'm using wired ethernet, and can't even get to google.com, any idea?
[05:26] <linuxpenguin207> where can i find firefox 3 release notes? (whats new, bug fixes, etc)
[05:26] <linuxpenguin207> I LOVE THIS SONG!!!!!!!!!
[05:27] <rampageoberon> satanas: i'm not sure then, sorry :(
[05:27] <akahige> ﻿Jalathan: network stack, sure. but this issue seems to ONLY be smb related. all other networking functions (that I've tried) seem fine.  and even weirder, I can stream media down from devices, but my ability to write to them is totally hosed.
[05:27] <puff> Anybody know deep kernel voodoo?
[05:27] <tmapj> my computer keeps booting up to the bluetooth configuration file. can anyone help me out?
[05:27] <rampageoberon> satanas: actually try open it in a standalone window or whatever it is
[05:27] <TheFool> linuxpenguin207: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b3/releasenotes/
[05:27] <n-iCe> can anyone help with a ssh server, please?
[05:27] <rampageoberon> satanas: see if that works
[05:27] <nano> Chrasange, do you have an ip address?
[05:27] <TheFool> linuxpenguin207: seriously though...first result from google
[05:27] <puff> n-iCe: What's the problem?
[05:27] <TheFool> n-iCe: whats the problem?
[05:28] <Chrasange> nano, yes and it is the correct one for sure for certain
[05:28] <n-iCe> pub, i instaleld the ssh server, but nobody can connect says Permission denied, please try again.
[05:28] <Alan_M> wowwie, im lagging :/
[05:28] <linuxpenguin207> thefool: thats for beta 3, do they have a more recent one?
[05:28] <tmapj> my computer keeps booting up to the bluetooth configuration file. can anyone help me out?
[05:28] <rampageoberon> Chrasange: what does http://91.121.102.187 give you
[05:28] <nano> Chrasange, are you connected to a router via ethernet?
[05:28] <cypher1> Chrasange, what is the output of netstat -rn
[05:28] <n-iCe> puff, TheFool
[05:28] <Jalathan> akahige: i'd recommend trying reinstalling -17 and see if it helps you.  (I did note that -18 created some really... wacked out issues) sry, i need to afk <.<;;
[05:28] <jmhealey> Chrasange: maybe you have a DNS issue, can you ping an internet addr like 199.1.13.9?
[05:29] <akahige> ﻿Jalathan: cool.  thanks for the help
[05:29] <Jalathan> np
[05:29] <TheFool> linuxpenguin207: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b5/releasenotes/ then :) just replaced the 3 with a 5 :)
[05:29] <afallenhope> brb
[05:29] <rampageoberon> linuxpenguin207: latest version in the repos is rc1
[05:29] <TheFool> n-iCe: ok first off which ssh server? second off how have you set up users?
[05:30] <nano> my wine resolution is all messed up, any idea how i can fix it?
[05:30] <TheFool> ok, even more recent http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0rc2/releasenotes/
[05:30] <puff> n-iCe: And after you answer TheFool, do "ps -ef | fgrep -i sshd"
[05:30] <puff> n-iCe: And after that, "netstat -la | fgrep -i ssh"
[05:31] <mystery_> does anyone know how to download and install emerald themes
[05:31] <n-iCe> TheFool,  sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:31] <linuxpenguin207> that ip says i have i686 but i have i386, isn't i686 for 64-bit?
[05:31] <rj_> can anyone help me how to play dota in linux.i already install wine.
[05:32] <TheFool> mystery_: emerald theme manager used to be the best way, haven't messed with it since 7.10 though
[05:32] <TheFool> n-iCe: so openssh...
[05:32] <n-iCe> TheFool, i guess so
[05:32] <nickrud> linuxpenguin207 no, i686 is pentium II class or better 32bit
[05:32] <puff> n-iCe: And "ps -ef | fgrep -is sshd" shows you what?
[05:32] <unavailable> anyone know if dnsmasq on a client bridge will conflict with the dhcp server on a linksys fw gateway?
[05:32] <mystery_> so i shouldnt go to the site and download from there
[05:32] <n-iCe> puff, root@TampiKo-NeT:/home/tampiko# ps -ef | fgrep -i sshd
[05:33] <unavailable> i know this isnt dd-wrt but no one there is answering
[05:33] <n-iCe> root      8374     1  0 22:00 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd
[05:33] <puff> n-iCe: don't PASTE
[05:33] <n-iCe> root      8561  8518  0 23:32 pts/0    00:00:00 fgrep -i sshd
[05:33] <puff> n-iCe: Use a pastebin.
[05:33] <n-iCe> that's all
[05:33] <Alan_M> linuxpenguin207, i686-64 would mean you had 64 bit.
[05:33] <TheFool> and how about setting up the users, I am hoping you did nothing? and are trying to logon with your normal linux user/pass?
[05:33] <puff> n-iCe: Pasting to this channel will get you kicked out.
[05:33] <|Juan|> help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[05:33] <Alan_M> !pastebin | n-iCe
[05:33] <n-iCe> puff,  now?
[05:33] <Starnestommy> n-iCe: if it's over one line, use a pastebin
[05:33] <puff> n-iCe: netstat -la | fgrep -i ssh
[05:33] <linuxpenguin207> so then im running the wrong ubuntu cause i clicked i386 iso i should have clicked i686?
[05:34] <rampageoberon> linuxpenguin207: you using x86 architecture?
[05:34] <Alan_M> linuxpenguin207, no you have the right one, as long as its not a 64 bit processor one for a 32 bit processor, your doing good :)
[05:34] <|Juan|> help here please http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=823040
[05:34] <cypher1> i am having problems with display in hardy
[05:34] <nickrud> linuxpenguin207 no, there's only 32bit (i386) and 64bit (amd64, although it runs on intel 64bit as well)
[05:34] <unavailable> BTW 64 bit ubuntu sucks
[05:34] <mystery_> TheFool, do you use desktop themes. Is there something better out there that I should check out>
[05:34] <puff> n-iCe: And tell me how many lines you see in the output (or just put it on a pastebin).  That will show if your ssh server is listening on a port.
[05:34] <ParkerW> Can anyone help me? I am trying use VNC to connect to my server? But I have no idea what I am doing.
[05:35] <n-iCe> puff, http://paste.ubuntu.com/18960/
[05:35] <cypher1> the windows basically refreshes slowly
[05:35] <Chrasange> I have 64bit Hardy Heron, and it fails, no matter what, in any desktop, help?
[05:35] <linuxpenguin207> yes its intel pentium 4
[05:35] <KurtT> Hello, world
[05:35] <unavailable> no software
[05:35] <unavailable> no voice chat
[05:35] <puff> n-iCe: Okay, so listen to TheFool, then, because ssh is installed, and running and listening on a port.
[05:35] <TheFool> mystery_: I went to fluxbox so...can't help you much
[05:36] <nickrud> linuxpenguin207 so what's happening is the -generic kernel recognizes what chip you have, and optimizes itself for pentium II or better
[05:36] <puff> n-iCe: So the problem is probably somewhere in how you're trying to log into it or in how you have your users set up.
[05:36] <mystery_> oh ok cool
[05:36] <unavailable> i have 64 bit and sure it runs fine,
[05:36] <unavailable> but i cannot get the programs i want to use
[05:36] <n-iCe> puff, how should I set up
[05:36] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: does "ssh localhost" work?
[05:36] <nickrud> unavailable the very reason I went back to 32bit
[05:36] <unavailable> lol
[05:36] <darth> amd64 works fine here
[05:37] <unavailable> yah it works fine
[05:37] <puff> n-iCe: How are you trying to access the machine?  What ssh client, and are you using a key or using login/password?
[05:37] <linuxpenguin207> nickrud: thanks
[05:37] <unavailable> just cant get any type of voice chat
[05:37] <n-iCe> puff, ssh user@ip
[05:37] <darth> flash works here on amd64
[05:37] <n-iCe> then pass
[05:37] <unavailable> im trying to get a yahoo im voice chat
[05:37] <afabian> unavailable: I had problems with Flash and wine (trying to run 32 bit windows apps.)  I didn't expect the wine problems.  There are a few silly little windows programs I really like.
[05:37] <puff> n-iCe: And you get "permission denied"?
[05:37] <KurtT> Excuse me, but I have a quick question on Ubuntu version 7.10. I would like to know if it is possible to upgrade to Hardy Heron via the upgrade program included with Ubuntu.
[05:37] <unavailable> thats why i use VirtualBox
[05:37] <n-iCe> puff, yeah and using localhost as rampageoberon said i got ssh: connect to host localhost port 27: Connection refused
[05:37] <Alan_M> unavailable, 32 bit seems to give you more options, your just not using the full capabilities of the processor (64 bit processing of course) with 32 bit on a 64 (obviously).
[05:38] <nickrud> !upgrade | KurtT absolutely
[05:38] <Alan_M> !upgrade | KurtT
[05:38] <rampageoberon> port 27? heh
[05:38] <puff> n-iCe: Port 27?  Odd... isn't port 22 ssh?
[05:38] <KurtT> Thank you all very much!
[05:38] <rampageoberon> puff yes it is port 22
[05:38] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: does "ssh localhost -p 22" work?
[05:38] <Alan_M> wow, that was a oops :/
[05:38] <n-iCe> puff,  well it does it automatically, how can i reset the settings?
[05:38] <puff> n-iCe: What rampageoberon said.
[05:38] <nickrud> repetition breeds reassurance Alan_M
[05:38] <candive> Good nite
[05:38] <Alan_M> ubottu didnt recognize the command was given twice :/
[05:39] <n-iCe> puff, <rampageoberon> n-iCe: does "ssh localhost" work?
[05:39] <nickrud> noticed that too. But ubottu is only a stopgap
[05:39] <linuxpenguin207> anyways i was thinking about deleting my windows xp, yes thats right. but theres one reason i need XP is DVD shrink. does that work in wine and don't even say virtualbox......so much painful memories lol
[05:39] <puff> n-iCe: No,m he said "does ssh localhost -p 22" work
[05:39] <Alan_M> nickrud, heh, yeah...
[05:39] <puff> n-iCe: The -p 22 specifies port 22, which is what ssh should be listening on.
[05:39] <n-iCe> oh, puff , rampageoberon ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[05:39] <twiztidmind> i have a question i was needing help with how come when i do SU in my terminal and enter the correct in getting su: "Authentication failure"
[05:39] <unavailable> virtualbox by sun
[05:40] <unavailable> not ose
[05:40] <upgrdman> hello. im trying to install 8.04 via the amd64 alt cd. when i try to install or even check cd for defects i end up with this error "your installation cd-rom couldnt be mounted ... try to mount cd-rom?" i enter yes... and it just gives me the same error again. i have downloaded the iso from two different mirrors and still no success. any ideas/tips?
[05:40] <nickrud> linuxpenguin207 I used virtualbox for the first time today, to install ubuntu on my work box. Went swimmingly (did use the sun version, though)
[05:40] <Flannel> linuxpenguin207: Why not get familiar with the Linux native alternatives?
[05:40] <puff> n-iCe: Oddd.
[05:40] <n-iCe> puff, how can I reset the settings?
[05:41] <rampageoberon> puff: just wondering about ssh trying to connect to port 27, something wrong in /etc/ssh/ssh_config?
[05:41] <nickrud> upgrdman did you burn the iso as an image file (stupid question, but ... )
[05:41] <afabian> linuxpenguin207: Disk space is cheap.  Might as well keep the Windows partition, I say.
[05:41] <unavailable> twiztidmind when you type su  use blank pass?
[05:41] <linuxpenguin207> nickrud: virtualbox is slow in my opinon i think i alloted too much ram
[05:41] <upgrdman> nickrud, no i burned it as a cd... the cd boots and i get the ubuntu logo etc at startup
[05:41] <ksa1> upgradman -- maybe try pressing f6 and enter all-generic-ide
[05:41] <Chrasange> so, i have HardyHeron and I can't boot in ANY desktop, ideas?
[05:41] <puff> rampageoberon: Sounds weird.
[05:41] <ksa1> @ bootup
[05:41] <puff> rampageoberon: Then again, that's on the client machine.
[05:42] <puff> n-iCe: What is the operating system of the machine you are trying to ssh _from_?
[05:42] <nickrud> linuxpenguin207 I switched to it because vmware was slow. But this is in a windows host, so not really applicable or on topic really
[05:42] <upgrdman> ksa1, thanks... brb
[05:42] <linuxpenguin207> flannel: i have tried acid:rip and it doesn't even burn the whole dvd just one chapter
[05:42] <rampageoberon> puff: thinking it might have the port 27 enabled in ssh_config so the client tries that
[05:42] <n-iCe> puff, ubuntu
[05:42] <twiztidmind> what do u mean
[05:42] <afabian> Chrasange: Lots of possible points of failure in the boot process.  You should narrow it down a bit.  Does GRUB load?  Does the kernel load?  Does it fail probing hardware?  Does X start?  etc.
[05:42] <twiztidmind> my pass for SU is my root pass right?
[05:42] <unavailable> twiztidmind use sudo -i
[05:43] <jindal> Hi, an ext3 partition is reporting wrong free space (/dev/sda7     ext3     113G   108G      0 100% /home/jindal/Misc) ... any ideas?
[05:43] <nickrud> Chrasange I would look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:43] <Flannel> linuxpenguin207: Well, burning and ripping are two separate things.  You'd rip it to an iso (or folder, I guess) and then burn that.
[05:43] <twiztidmind> k
[05:43] <Flannel> !dvd | linuxpenguin207
[05:43] <n-iCe> puff, is there any way to restore the default settings? I tried uninstalling and installing again, no success
[05:43] <Starnestommy> twiztidmind: for su, yes, but sudo is your user's password
[05:43] <Randocal> Aside from Firefox, what is likely the most fully functional/mature browser available?
[05:43] <twiztidmind> k
[05:43] <twiztidmind> thanks
[05:43] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: do cat /etc/ssh/ssh_config | grep -i "port"
[05:43] <ksa1> hey, how do you use lightscribe on ubuntu 8.04 x64?
[05:43] <eross> what's a free audio development library?
[05:43] <Priest> Shalom all!
[05:43] <unavailable> ok so if su is my root password (and i never set one up) than what is my root password?
[05:43] <puff> n-iCe: Yeah, you have to uninstall with the purge option.
[05:43] <Starnestommy> unavailable: nothing.
[05:44] <yell0w> Randocal: epiphany / seamonkey / opera / konqueror
[05:44] <unavailable> like "nothing"?
[05:44] <puff> n-iCe: Did you mess with the ssh settings after installing?
[05:44] <linuxpenguin207> thanks for the advice
[05:44] <nickrud> jindal I think the diff you're seeing is the space that's reserved for root storage
[05:44] <unavailable> or literally no thing typed
[05:44] <Starnestommy> unavailable: there isn't one.  root is locked
[05:44] <unavailable> Shabbot shalom
[05:44] <n-iCe> puff, yes
[05:44] <Randocal> Thank you yell0w. I'll try those out, FF doesn't wanna play nice with one of my websites i use for work.
[05:44] <puff> n-iCe: ah-ah!
[05:44] <nano> hey guys, I have a certain executable file that will only run if my command prompt is in the same directory as the executable.....based on this, i cannot create a gnome-panel shortcut.  I was wondering if there any workarounds to this?
[05:44] <unavailable> Starnestommy and how do i unlock it?
[05:44] <n-iCe> puff, that's I want to know how to restore I wanted to change the port, I did but now it is not working, how is the purge command?
[05:44] <nickrud> jindal normally an ext3 partition reserves 5% of the disk for access only by root
[05:44] <unavailable> sudo -i?
[05:44] <puff> n-iCe: Okay, try sudo aptitude purge packagename
[05:44] <n-iCe> if sudo apt-get install openssh-server is for remove
[05:44] <n-iCe> ok
[05:44] <Priest> Does anyone have any information on how I can play and/or convert a .3g2 video file on Ubuntu?
[05:45] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: sudo aptitude purge openssh-client
[05:45] <linuxpenguin207> oh my god stride is false advertising it really doesnt last that long
[05:45] <Alan_M> !root | unavailable
[05:45] <Starnestommy> unavailable: yes
[05:45] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: sudo aptitude purge openssh-server
[05:45] <n-iCe> sudo aptitude purge openssh-server , ok
[05:45] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: sudo aptitude install openssh-server openssh-client
[05:45] <Flannel> unavailable: You don't want to.
[05:45] <puff> Sigh, still nobody has any ideas on my disappearing wireless?
[05:45] <jindal> ﻿nickrud, yeah right
[05:45]  * puff is tempted to reinstall from scratch.
[05:45] <unavailable> os if there is no root password, what is the point of su
[05:45] <jindal> thanks
[05:45] <Ubuntu_Noob> even after extensive search and posting on ubuntu forums i m having no luck :(
[05:45] <Flannel> unavailable: You don't use su, you use sudo.
[05:45] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: do cat /etc/ssh/ssh_config | grep -i "port" before you purge
[05:45] <afabian> Randocal: I'd say Opera.  It's the only other one with market share, so to speak.  Epiphany is the gecko engine--not substantially different from Firefox for the problem you're having.
[05:45] <unavailable> i know im just being a pain
[05:45] <Starnestommy> unavailable: it allows switching between users other than root
[05:45] <unavailable> lol
[05:46] <eross> puff - did you hit some keys on your laptop by mistake to disable the wireless, assumming it's a laptop?
[05:46] <thenetduck> I need some help sharing files with Virtual Box can anyone assist me in doing this?
[05:46] <unavailable> aah
[05:46] <nickrud> unavailable  sudo -i is functionally equiv to su - , sudo -s is su
[05:46] <Starnestommy> unavailable: plus lets root switch users
[05:46] <thenetduck> I have not done it before
[05:46] <n-iCe> rampageoberon,  what should I write on "port" or just leave the "port" word?
[05:46] <afabian> Randocal: Konqueror has yet another rendering engine entirely, but is *really* far from mainstream.  Heh.
[05:46] <linuxpenguin207> puff, did you recently run a software update? 2.6.24-18 might have not recognized
[05:46] <simplechat> hey, did anything major come through in the last round of upgrades?
[05:46] <linuxpenguin207> t
[05:46] <puff> eross: Good suggestion, but no. Ever since the last kernel update (to 18, I believe, though now I'm on the proposed 19 and it's still a problem) my wireless just disappears after a while.  dhclient eth1 doesn't get a response, iwlist scan eth1 shows no networks, and ifup/ifdown never heard of eth1.  Rebooting restores it for a short while, then I'm back to there.
[05:46] <rampageoberon> just leave "port" n-iCe
[05:46] <Randocal> thanks afabian, i'll try Opera 2nd if Epiphany doesn't work (already in the process of installing it)
[05:46] <simplechat> i just upgraded my hardy box, and then it died (black screen) a couple hours later
[05:46] <simplechat> and it won't boot any more (dies on login)
[05:46] <n-iCe> ok, rampageoberon
[05:46] <puff> eross: Thinkpad t43p, bwt.
[05:46] <simplechat> would anyone knkow where i should look to fix it?
[05:47] <simplechat> bad updates? bad x.org config? (there wern't any x updates i don't remember)
[05:47] <unavailable> so if sudo -s is su and I CAN sudo -s to root using my password
[05:47] <ifireball> nano: you can write a script to "cd" to the proper directory and run the executable
[05:47] <n-iCe> rampageoberon,    Port 27
[05:47] <nickrud> unavailable yes
[05:47] <unavailable> than why cannot i su to root using my password
[05:47] <rampageoberon> puff, n-iCe aha thats it
[05:47] <nano> ifireball, so then my gnome-panel shortcut should reference a script
[05:47] <nano> ?
[05:47] <nickrud> unavailable because the root account is locked. Read the link for rationale
[05:47] <n-iCe> rampageoberon,  :) purge will restore settings, right?
[05:47] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: okay now do the purge of both the client and the server and reinstall them
[05:47] <unavailable> lol
[05:47] <nickrud> !rootsudo | unavailable
[05:47] <Starnestommy> unavailable: use sudo -i. sudo -s keeps all of the user's settings but tuns as root
[05:47] <ksa1> hey, how do you get lightscribe to work through 64-bit 8.04 Ubuntu
[05:47] <unavailable> ook
[05:48] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: yes
[05:48] <ifireball> nano: yes.
[05:48] <Starnestommy> *runs
[05:48] <simplechat> there doesn't seem to be anything yet on google about this
[05:48] <unavailable> now
[05:48] <simplechat> has this happened to anyone else here?
[05:48] <darth> unavailable,  if you want to su, just do sudo passwd and then su
[05:48] <rampageoberon> puff, <n-iCe> rampageoberon,    Port 27 <-- no wonder it tried port 27
[05:48] <Ubuntu_Noob> its busy here :(
[05:48] <linuxpenguin207> n-iCe: purge removes the file you want to remove plus any config files....so its like killing it
[05:48] <simplechat> how would i go about fixing it? (major part)
[05:48] <puff> eross: I found a bug report, which, sadly, my laptop crashed before I could bookmark and now I can't find it again for some reason.  This bug report (180455 I thought, but that's apparently not it) said that the best bet was to revert to an earlier kernel.  But when I tried doing so by simply uinstalling kernel 2.6.24-19 and related packages, things got seriously hosed,  graphics didn't work, etc.
[05:49] <Flannel> darth: Please don't advise that here.  Most people "need" root because they don't know any better.
[05:49] <nickrud> !noroot | darth (lol)
[05:49] <Alan_M> unavailable, if your trying to enable the root account, then we cannot help you with this.....we can only tell you how to use sudo to do things with root privledges.
[05:49] <darth> ;)
[05:49] <unavailable> it was always just a weird thing i guess
[05:49] <unavailable> anyway
[05:49] <darth> thnx for pointing that out nickrud
[05:49] <Ubuntu_Noob> !netboot
[05:49] <unavailable> this does not have anything to do with ubuntu, but i cant seem to get my dhcp working from my wrt(linksys fw) to my wap(ddwrt)   im wondering if dnsmasq is preventing me from getting a dhcp ip addy...
[05:50] <linuxpenguin207> Alan_M: couldn't you just enable it through System>>Admin>>Users and groups??
[05:50] <nickrud> unavailable I was using sudo for years before I switched to ubuntu, I like the 4 letter security of not doing the old romeo mike in the wrong terminal window (been there, done that)
[05:50] <allquixotic> simplechat: are you able to get to the console?
[05:50] <farhad_hf> hi all
[05:50] <Alan_M> linuxpenguin207, i believe we should move from this discussion, thanks :)
[05:50] <unavailable> lol
[05:50] <simplechat> allquixotic, 3 seconds after logging in, i lose video output
[05:50] <simplechat> moniter goes blank, complains that it has no input
[05:50] <puff> simplechat: I was having some serious problems in that vein, which arose from my efforts to fix the problems caused by the kernel update about 6 days ago.
[05:50] <nobi-san> hi
[05:50] <rampageoberon> nickrud: yeah its easy to get mixed up between # and $
[05:51] <darth> nickrud: and on this laptop with thinkfinger enabled, sudo is a breeze
[05:51] <nickrud> rampageoberon heh. I'm nearsighted :)
[05:51] <nobi-san> newb here needs some help... anyone available?
[05:51] <allquixotic> simplechat: oh you mean 3 seconds after logging into the graphical login?
[05:51] <simplechat> puff, hmmm, k. i tried and older kernel and it had the same issue
[05:51] <simplechat> allquixotic, yep
[05:51] <rampageoberon> nickrud: i've been known to do these stupid things, so mainly referring to myself
[05:51] <allquixotic> simplechat: using an ATI card?
[05:51] <darth> $ sudo rm /
[05:51] <darth> Password or swipe finger:
[05:51] <simplechat> login screen -> i put in my credentials -> see my normal programs start up -> Black screen
[05:51] <afallenhope> which kernel is "STABLE" because I can't hibernate anymore...
[05:51] <simplechat> allquixotic, X1950 pro, 256mb of ram, pciE
[05:52] <Alan_M> darth, please stop :)
[05:52] <puff> simplechat: I eventually slipped and accidentally did an aptitude full-upgrade after adding the hardy-proposed repository to my source.list.  It upgraded a ton of things, and now everything except the original wireless problem is back to normal.  Only I'm on hardy-proposed now, of course.
[05:52] <simplechat> i'm also getting random reboots when playing URT, but i thought that was just thermal
[05:52] <afabian> simplechat: If you can figure out what packages were in the last round of upgrades, you can boot into a live CD, chroot, and force the install of the old packages manually with dpkg
[05:52] <farhad_hf> in ubuntu hardy i installed nvidia-glx-new drive. now the monitor is configured with the 1024x768 resolution. and the other choices are not in the list. but my monitor supports up to 1600x1200. what can i do?
[05:52] <darth> heheh sorry cant help it, it was easier to do than i initially thought....
[05:52] <simplechat> puff, ah
[05:52] <nickrud> darth often we do a ban for typing that, so please don't repeat
[05:52] <allquixotic> simplechat: I've noticed widespread stability problems with ATi's proprietary fglrx driver on 8.04 and even 7.10, I would suggest using the open source driver... slower for games, but stable
[05:52] <darth> for typing?
[05:52] <n-iCe> rampageoberon,  done, purged, now?
[05:53] <darth> the remove command?
[05:53] <darth> sorry
[05:53] <puff> simplechat: I'm not sure what the deal is with hardy-proposed, but if it's anything like a dist-upgrade, then it's going to be hard/impossible to go backwards, so I'm either stuck on hardy-proposed or I reinstall from scratrch.
[05:53] <Flannel> puff: You got lucky, You ought to disable hardy-proposed as soon as possible.
[05:53] <simplechat> afabian, yeah, but how would i know that?
[05:53] <puff> Flannel: I can?
[05:53] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: sudo aptitude install openssh-client openssh-server
[05:53] <unavailable> anyone?
[05:53] <unavailable> anyone?
[05:53] <nobi-san> i'm unable to reload synaptic... anyone know what i can do?
[05:53] <unavailable> anyone know if dnsmasq on a client bridge will conflict with the dhcp server on a linksys fw gateway?
[05:53] <darth> it wasnt my point, the point was the password finger swiping
[05:53] <FloodBot1> unavailable: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:53] <simplechat> allquixotic, the oss driver doesn't run at any sort of speed
[05:53] <Flannel> puff: Of course, jst remove it from your sources.list, or uncheck it in software sources, or whatever.
[05:53] <nobi-san> i can't update either
[05:53] <nobi-san> :T
[05:53] <nobi-san> :(
[05:54] <puff> Flannel: Okay, commented it out.
[05:54] <afabian> simplechat: maybe.. ahh... time-stamps on debs in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[05:54] <puff> Flannel: What happens next?  I just wait for the packages in the remaining repositories to out-pace the ones installed from hardy-proposed?
[05:54] <simplechat>  puff, that would suck. this was just a normal apt-get update though
[05:54] <noobuntu> hello
[05:54] <simplechat> with the normal set of repos
[05:54] <nickrud> nobi-san do   sudo apt-get -f install   in a terminal, put the output on paste.ubuntu.com , and give me the link so I can see it
[05:54] <simplechat> afabian, so first what? i need to mount my other drive, then chroot?
[05:55] <nobi-san> nickrud:  thanks!
[05:55] <Flannel> puff: you're still using the -proposed packages that you've installed, you just wont get any more of them.  If you'd like, you can downgrade whatever you installed, which gets especially easy if you know exactly what you upgraded.
[05:55] <nobi-san> nickrud:  will do
[05:55] <puff> simplechat: Update or upgrade?
[05:55] <noobuntu> how to make sun java to default JDK/JRE? thx
[05:55] <nickrud> this makes 4 broken dpkg databases, is it a full moon?
[05:55] <puff> simplechat: update just updates apt's record of packages, shoudn't actually install anything.
[05:55] <simplechat> puff, it was through the little update manager thing
[05:55] <genii> puff: Both , in the order you had them
[05:55] <simplechat> upgrade it would be then
[05:55] <puff> Flannel: It upgraded 89 packages.
[05:56] <nickrud> noobuntu if you installed them as ubuntu packages,   sudo update-alternatives --config java should let you choose
[05:56] <rampageoberon> simplechat: in 8.04 its safe-upgrade or full-upgrade depending on what you want to do
[05:56] <puff> simplechat: Ah, okay, that was equivalent to a full-upgrade.
[05:56] <Flannel> puff: You could probably check your dpkg log.  Or at least, get a pretty good idea from it
[05:56] <tyler_> Hey is there a SHOUTcast plugin for XMMS?
[05:56] <noobuntu> nickrud: will try now
[05:56] <simplechat> so it was a full-upgrade
[05:56] <reeeginetor> why does ubuntu suck so much balls?
[05:56] <afabian> simplechat:  Yeah, that should work.  dpkg should work fine.. but, you'll have to get old versions of the packages in question.  Maybe directly out of FTP.  You might just want to try replacing some likely candidates.
[05:56] <simplechat> so how do i go back?
[05:56] <Flannel> reeeginetor: Please troll elsewhere, thanks.
[05:56] <Alan_M> how do i add a notify on text event to xchat?
[05:56] <simplechat> reeeginetor, compared to windows, its surprisingly workable
[05:56] <puff> Flannel: Well, see, thing is, lots of stuff was broken before I upgraded :-).
[05:57] <simplechat> afabian, how do i chroot ?
[05:57] <Flannel> puff: Like I said, you got lucky, and you don't necessarily have to downgrade, just wait for hardy-updates to catch up
[05:57] <joanki123> can anyone tell me how i can find mjy master .bashrc file?
[05:57] <nobi-san> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18962/
[05:57] <nickrud> Alan_M settings->prefs->chat->alerts
[05:57] <joanki123> i can't seem to figure out which one is it - there are several
[05:57] <afabian> simplechat:  Ohh... well, does your system boot?  I forget the details.  You said the video blanks after an hour?  I was thinking "dead system" for some reason.  chroot might not be necessary.
[05:57] <rampageoberon> joanki123: locate .bashrc
[05:57] <Alan_M> thanks nick
[05:57] <noobuntu> nickrud: it works, thank you!
[05:57] <genii> joanki123: The one in your home directory substructure
[05:58] <nickrud> noobuntu you're welcome
[05:58] <puff> Flannel: Okay, so I'll wait then... meanwhile, you seem to know a lot about this... is it feasible for my to downgrade to kernel 2.6.24-17 or -16?
[05:58] <joanki123> rampageoberon, there is /etc/bash.bashrc, then /root/.bashrc.... then my home .bashrc?
[05:58] <simplechat> afabian, black screen 3 seconds after wm starts
[05:58] <joanki123> genii, what if i want to affect all users?
[05:58] <Flannel> puff: If theyre in the repos still, or if you have them still installed, sure.
[05:58] <simplechat> so login, three seconds then black screen
[05:58] <puff> For that matter, is there a way to list when the various kernel versions were added to the repository?
[05:58] <simplechat> no matter what happens
[05:58] <rampageoberon> joanki123: your home bashrc is what you want
[05:58] <simplechat> i have three different wm's
[05:58] <joanki123> thanks all
[05:58] <simplechat> all three cause issues
[05:58] <simplechat> including just plain openbox
[05:58] <rampageoberon> joanki123: it affects only you
[05:58] <puff> Flannel: I have 17, 18 and 19.  I tried using the startup-manager to startup with 17, but that didn't seem to work well.
[05:58] <genii> joanki123: For all users the global in /etc substructure
[05:58] <nobi-san> nothing's downloading
[05:58] <nobi-san> :T
[05:59] <joanki123> genii, thanks
[05:59] <nobi-san> not my synaptic, updates, reload
[05:59] <Renate> Bodsda (or anyone):  i'm stumped (and a n00b to ubuntu)
[05:59] <Renate> renate@MobileCats:~$ sudo wine /home/renate/Desktop/ITP32Eng6.20.182.0.exe
[05:59] <Flannel> puff: Are those all you have in /boot? or is that just what's listed at GRUB?
[05:59] <Renate> [sudo] password for renate:
[05:59] <Renate> wine: /home/renate/.wine is not owned by you
[05:59] <Renate> renate@MobileCats:~$
[05:59] <Renate> renate@MobileCats:~$ sudo -i
[05:59] <FloodBot1> Renate: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:59] <afabian> simplechat: Ahh.  Well, just boot the system and kill the display manager and work from the console.  Use.. say, control-alt-f1 to get to the first terminal, log in...
[05:59] <joanki123> genii, how do i make the changes take place?
[05:59] <nickrud> joanki123 /root is for when you sudo -i , the /etc is for all users on the machine, and the one in home is for you personally (gets read after the one in /etc and can override
[05:59] <joanki123> it doesn' tseem to
[05:59] <afabian> simplechat: you might want to stop the X display manager.. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:59] <joanki123> nickrud, thanks
[05:59] <nobi-san> this is probably a really newb question but is the version i'm using too old?
[06:00] <afabian> simplechat: And then... use dpkg to manually install old debs in place of the updated ones.
[06:00] <simplechat> afabian, how?
[06:00] <joanki123> genii, when i make the change, the cmd prompt doesn't change even when i open a new shell
[06:00] <simplechat> afabian how?
[06:00] <eido> how can stop usernames from being truncated when using w?
[06:00] <afabian> simplechat: how on which part?
[06:00] <simplechat> control alt f1, get the terminal
[06:00] <genii> joanki123: source .bashrc
[06:00] <simplechat> then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:00] <simplechat> ?
[06:00] <puff> Flannel: That's just what's listed in grub and in the startup manager. /boot has 2.6.24-16 also.
[06:00] <noobuntu> nickrud: firefox is stil using OpenJDK WebStart
[06:00] <simplechat> oh yeah, how would i stop autorunning programs? just to stop any issue from them causing this
[06:00] <afabian> simplechat: Eh, you can skip that step, most likely.  The gdm stop one.
[06:00] <simplechat> ?
[06:00] <pen> anyone here know anything about the history of linux sound?
[06:00] <jlulian38> apparently my SD card is a CD-ROM now
[06:01] <jlulian38> and I can't fix it
[06:01] <simplechat> afabian, so which debs do i need?
[06:01] <nickrud> noobuntu  sudo update-alternatives --config xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so
[06:01] <joanki123> thanks genii
[06:01] <jlulian38> [ 3527.440808] ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
[06:01] <Flannel> puff: alright, in your menu.lst, you can change the number of kernels displayed.  You can increase that, or just remove the intermediate ones, and you can set -16 to be default in a number of ways.  safedefault is probably the most forward compatable one
[06:01] <jlulian38> and it fails to mount
[06:01] <nobi-san> nickrud:  did you get my paste?
[06:01] <pen> I want to know why alsa and pulseaudio can't support all the software mixing
[06:01] <matyy> hej, does someone know if I can set the cpu governor so, that it doesn't use the highest rate (restrict it to 1,6ghz max instead of 2ghz)?
[06:01] <genii> joanki123: np
[06:01] <afabian> simplechat: I'm not really sure, in general.  Ubuntu uses this system called upstart.  sysvinit seems to allow you to edit what starts at various runlevels, but I don't know what a simple way is.
[06:01] <nickrud> nobi-san no, I didn't. What's the link?
[06:01] <nobi-san> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18962/
[06:01] <theacolyte> so samba vs windows CIFS, which is faster?
[06:01] <jlulian38> (I'm want to completely obliterate anything on the drive and make it fresh, halp D:
[06:02] <genii> jlulian38: Use UUID and not /dev/name  in your fstab files.
[06:02] <darth> Flannel, nickrud is there a rules-document somewhere about what to say and what not to say on this channel?
[06:02] <nickrud> nobi-san that's good, what are you trying to do in synaptic that fails (exactly)
[06:02] <darth> like the (not so funny) remove command
[06:02] <Renate> help please??  http://paste.ubuntu.com/18963/
[06:02] <jlulian38> It's not an fstab issue though
[06:02] <simplechat> kk
[06:02] <Alan_M> darth, just use common sense :)
[06:02] <simplechat> thansk afabian
[06:02] <bullgard4> After a restart bash history in a GNOME terminal prints some entries in the format  cd "`echo -e '\0057home\0057detlef\0057gnome\0057gnome\0055volume\0055manager\0055\0062\0056\0062\0062\0056\0061'`" instead of the format 'cd /home/detlef/gnome/gnome-volume-manager-2.22.1'. Is this a bug or a feature?
[06:02] <darth> lol....but!
[06:02] <afabian> simplechat: do an ls -l on /var/cache/apt/archives -- by the date/time they came down, it should be apparent which ones were in the last batch of updates.
[06:02] <nickrud> !coc | darth (and a lot of it is something you'll just learn as you go along)
[06:02] <jlulian38> I'm jamming a USB stick with an SD card in, and I get crazy errors
[06:02] <puff> Flannel: Where does menu.lst live?
[06:03] <nobi-san> nickrud, trying to install updates and download mplayer
[06:03] <darth> Alan_M, that would entail that i have common sense
[06:03] <darth> nickrud, i'll go check that immediately
[06:03] <Alan_M> darth, just go by the Code of Conduct link you were previously given :D
[06:03] <nano> in HardyHeron, is there a way to permanently delete the default folder that are created ~/Music and ~/Photos
[06:03] <nickrud> darth anything that might destroy a person's data/system is not something to just throw around without explanatory material. If you keep that in mind, you can't go wrong
[06:03] <darth> Alan_M, i'll try ;)
[06:03] <genii> nano: Look in /etc/skel
[06:03] <Alan_M> darth, as long as you stick to that, you CANNOT go wrong my friend ;)
[06:03] <simplechat> wow
[06:03] <simplechat> wtf?
[06:03] <afabian> simplechat: Unfortunately, this is just .. labor intensive.  You can find the debs on the install disc, most likely, but they'll be somewhat old versions.. or, you can try to find the last versions before this update broke something.. straight off of archive.ubuntu.com.  Just pick debs with the next lowest version number before this upgrade happened.
[06:03] <nano> genii, thnx
[06:03] <simplechat> i have thousands of them
[06:03] <Flannel> puff: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:04] <simplechat> like tens of thousands
[06:04] <simplechat> hmmm
[06:04] <afabian> simplechat: ahh.. well, let's see if there's a way to sort them by date.  hold on.
[06:04] <nickrud> nobi-san ok, type     sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   , and if it fails, give me the output
[06:04] <Flannel> darth: Follow the CoC, follow freenode policy.  That pretty much sums it up.
[06:04] <nobi-san> nickrud:  will do
[06:04] <puff> Flannel: Got it.
[06:04] <nano> genii, nope
[06:04] <nano> no go
[06:04] <noobuntu> nickrud: correct, but obviously i need to install sun java web start first. i was thinking that installing JDK would be sufficient
[06:04] <BAsh> Linux sucks because I cant use wireless. On windows it works great!<
[06:05] <nickrud> noobuntu install   sun-java6-plugin   for firefox
[06:05] <rampageoberon> BAsh: go back to windows then :)
[06:05] <nickrud> hahahahahahah
[06:05] <kushal1> BAsh, I am on Ubuntu 8.04 on another computer and it works wonders
[06:05] <darth> windows misses you Bash
[06:05] <BAsh> rampageoberon, cant you flame me a little then?
[06:05] <kushal1> with my Linksys
[06:05] <BAsh> i'm a troll!
[06:05] <Parker1> Does anyone know how to get Realtek AC97 installed
[06:05] <ryancr> is there any trick to getting svideo to work? I have an acer laptop with Intel 915GM chip
[06:05]  * nickrud kicks trolls, BAsh should reconsider
[06:05] <BAsh> i expect intelligent insults!
[06:05] <ryancr> this is on Hardy
[06:05] <kushal1> thank you BAshm now you can be safely ignored
[06:06] <genii> nano: gimme a minute
[06:06] <afabian> simplechat: try ls -l | sort -rk 6 | head -20
[06:06] <nano> genii, k
[06:06] <afabian> simplechat: That should give you an idea what the last 20 or so are.
[06:06] <feld> [HARDY] cryptdisks never runs on boot and my commands in rc.local don't seem to be running on boot either. What's going on guys? O_o
[06:06] <kushal1> ignore BAsh
[06:06] <simplechat> afabian, theres nothing new from today
[06:06] <simplechat> ls -l --sort t
[06:06] <n-iCe> rampageoberon,  guess what
[06:06] <Parker1> ryancr: What sort of computer do you have
[06:06] <Jalathan> Parker1: it should be working out of the box
[06:06] <simplechat> sorts by date
[06:06] <rampageoberon> yes n-iCe
[06:06] <ryancr> Parker1: Acer 4101 laptop
[06:06] <simplechat> simplechat this is a wtf
[06:06] <simplechat> want the last 20?
[06:06] <nobi-san> nickrud:  here's the paste for the update
[06:07] <nobi-san> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18964/
[06:07] <n-iCe> rampageoberon, i did it, but the same
[06:07] <unavailable> is there an /ignore ?
[06:07] <n-iCe> rampageoberon,  ssh: connect to host localhost port 27: Connection refused
[06:07] <darth> feld... is rc.local +x ?
[06:07] <kushal1> yes, I just ignored BAsh
[06:07] <rampageoberon> ok n-iCe
[06:07] <afabian> simplechat:  Hm.  That's odd.  Do you have them download in the background and install later?  They don't necessarily have to be from today.  Also, ... the package tools may have a better log somewhere.  You said it was the update-manager?
[06:07] <unavailable> lol
[06:07] <simplechat> afabian, i hit install
[06:07] <simplechat> then i restarted firefox
[06:07] <rampageoberon> su gksudo gedit /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[06:07] <kushal1> just do /ignore BAsh ALL
[06:07] <jlulian38> sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdb
[06:07] <jlulian38> :/
[06:07] <simplechat> (because it was a firefox update and it asked me to)
[06:07] <rampageoberon> @n-ice
[06:07] <nickrud> nobi-san hm,    gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  , and paste the contents
[06:07] <genii> nano: ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[06:08] <Renate> help please??    http://paste.ubuntu.com/18963/
[06:08] <unavailable> kinda funny
[06:08] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: su gksudo gedit /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[06:08] <n-iCe> rampageoberon,  done, now?
[06:08] <simplechat> but yeah
[06:08] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: find Port    27
[06:08] <simplechat> theres nothing thats been updated
[06:08] <unavailable> go to firefox's website and you will see "release date 08" for firefox 3
[06:08] <nickrud> !feedthetroll | kushal1
[06:08] <puff> Flannel: Hm, nothing in my existing menu.lst specifies the number of kernels displayed.
[06:08] <afabian> simplechat: So, it was the update manager?
[06:08] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: make it 22 and them put a #at the begining
[06:08] <Parker1> Its not Jalathan and I have no idea
[06:08] <nobi-san> nickrud: this is for the upgrade in case you want to see it http://paste.ubuntu.com/18965/
[06:09] <Flannel> puff: try howmany=all
[06:09] <Parker1> ryancPMed you.
[06:09] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: save the file and then try again
[06:09] <Parker1> oops
[06:09] <unavailable> i have a badge on my myspace telling people that mozilla wants to be able to break records with most downloaded in 24 hrs
[06:09] <unavailable> but we get it first
[06:09] <n-iCe> rampageoberon, at what beginning the port line?
[06:09] <nickrud> nobi-san sounds like you have a mirror issue, let me see that file I asked for
[06:09] <Parker1> Sorry, I am running VNC so it's a little laggy.
[06:09] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: yes
[06:09] <simplechat> afabian, yeah
[06:09] <Jalathan> Renate: with wine, the executables are not needing to be ran with sudo permission
[06:10] <n-iCe> rampageoberon, ok
[06:10] <Jalathan> Renate: they are installed within your own directory
[06:10] <Renate> jalathan:  everything i try, i get that same error popup (bottom of the paste)
[06:10] <eido> is it not possible to stop truncated user names when using w command?
[06:10] <n-iCe> rampageoberon,  do i need to restart it somehow?
[06:10] <nobi-san> nickrud: and here's the last paste you requested http://paste.ubuntu.com/18966/
[06:10] <rampageoberon> no
[06:10] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: no
[06:10] <n-iCe> rampageoberon, ok, let's see!
[06:10] <afabian> simplechat: I'm searching google.  This update-manager doesn't seem to do very good logging.  I think, from now on, my updating is going to be done with aptitude.
[06:11] <n-iCe> rampageoberon,  ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[06:11] <Josdell> Hey guys, I just need to know why my GRUB Boot Menu has so many Ubuntu Kernels, can i delete the older ones? I think i have 4 different kernels on the boot menu
[06:11] <Parker1> Anybody? My Realtek AC97 is not installed. Any  help?
[06:11] <darth> Renate, it will confuse wine since wine will then look for its config in /root/.wine, don't use sudo for wine
[06:11] <Jalathan> Renate: ok.  the driver isn't installed via wine though...
[06:11] <nickrud> nobi-san do you have a http_proxy set anywhere?
[06:11] <afabian> simplechat: do you have anything in /var/log/dist-upgrade?
[06:11] <genii> eido: Widen out your terminal screen and try again
[06:11] <nobi-san> nickrud:  i'm not even sure what that is... (sorry!)
[06:12] <simplechat> afabian, enpty directory
[06:12] <Renate> jalathan:  so how do i install the puppy then?  neither clicking the exe nor using the cd works
[06:12] <Thingus> House_Blend_Pete seems to be an auto-spam bot, can someone remove him?
[06:12] <nano> genii, how did you figure out that location?
[06:12] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: can you do cat /etc/ssh/sshd_config and paste it into a pastebin for me
[06:12] <afabian> simplechat: https://bugs.launchpad.net/update-manager/+bug/111494  ... here's the bug where it's suggested that proper logging should happen.  urgh.  it's really unacceptable for a tool like this not to produce logs.
[06:12] <House_Blend_Pete> no im not
[06:12] <Renate> it worked fine, from the moment i installed ubuntu.  all of a sudden, nothing
[06:12] <genii> nano: I had to modify it before
[06:13] <Thingus> House_Blend_Pete, Then please turn off your auto-msg scripts.
[06:13] <nano> genii, so u searched online for it or somethign?
[06:13] <genii> nano: Originally yes
[06:13] <puff> Flannel: howmany=all worked.  Booting into 16 now.
[06:13] <n-iCe> sure rampageoberon
[06:13] <nano> genii, thnx man
[06:13] <genii> nano: np
[06:13] <Jalathan> Renate: the driver is contained within the linux kernel or as a module addon for the kernel, so window's drivers for a device do not work under linux.
[06:13] <simplechat> afabian, hmmm, if its written in python, next time i have a minute i'll patch it
[06:13] <nobi-san> nickrud:  i don't think so tho
[06:13] <simplechat> but yeah
[06:13] <nickrud> nobi-san you have us.archive.ubuntu.com and archive.ubuntu.com in your sources (the file you showed me) which resolves to something in the 91.189.88.xx range, but you are trying to get stuff from 30.0.1.4 . That's your problem, and that implies something is redirecting your fetches. Why, I don't know then
[06:13] <simplechat> atm i'd much prefer a working computer :)
[06:14] <simplechat> even if its just push packages and reinstall
[06:14] <Jalathan> Renate: i'm going to see if i can find something to help you with on this
[06:14] <Renate> ok... but the driver manager thing doesn't have the right keybd/mouse set listed.  yet it worked fine for months
[06:14] <afabian> simplechat: Well, there's one option that comes to mind...
[06:14] <Renate> jalathan:  ^^^
[06:14] <joanki123> can anyone tell me how to change my header file search path?
[06:14] <Myrtti> House_Blend_Pete: which program are you using?
[06:14] <House_Blend_Pete> im not using any program
[06:14] <afabian> simplechat: I've never done this.  I *think* it should work.  It's a little risky.  You .. might want to back up your entire system.  Heh.
[06:14] <eido> genii: that did not seem to correct it and i cannot find an option to display in a wide mode
[06:14] <Jalathan> Renate: hrm, ok.
[06:14] <Myrtti> House_Blend_Pete: but surely you are on irc?
[06:15] <nobi-san> nickrud:  would upgrading to the newest ubuntu help?  i should be getting the cd soon
[06:15] <genii> eido: It just auto-adjusts to the width of your terminal screen.
[06:15] <Jalathan> Renate: have you tried using an earlier kernel?
[06:15] <puff> Flannel: Argh, eth1 doesn't show up _at all_ in -16 kernel.
[06:15] <Renate> jalathan:  it the remote receiver flashes on startup, going thru the bios, then when it hits linux, it's dead
[06:15] <upgrdman> hello. im trying to install 8.04 via the amd64 alt cd. when i try to install or even check cd for defects i end up with this error "your installation cd-rom couldnt be mounted ... try to mount cd-rom?" i enter yes... and it just gives me the same error again. i have downloaded the iso from two different mirrors and still no success. any ideas/tips? adding all-generic-ide to the boot args didnt solve the problem
[06:15] <Parker1> Realtek AC97 Audio not installed any help?
[06:15] <Renate> jalathan:  (n00b, remember?)  as in how would i do that?
[06:15] <nickrud> nobi-san might. But if the net you're working on has a redirect, I'm not sure it would help. If for some reason the redirect is in your system, a fresh install would replace it
[06:16] <n-iCe> rampageoberon,  http://www.nice.pastebin.com/m4d58df0
[06:16] <Myrtti> House_Blend_Pete: which irc client are you using?
[06:16] <Jalathan> Renate: sorry...
[06:16] <House_Blend_Pete> mirc
[06:16] <afabian> simplechat: Remove hardy-updates from /etc/apt/sources.list ... update your sources, and make some package tool (I'm starting to trust aptitude more than synaptic) for downgrades all around.  Since they were just patched versions of the same packages, nothing should really break, unless something crazy happens with the package tools.  I'm not.. ah, necessarily *advising* this... hah.
[06:16] <Myrtti> House_Blend_Pete: run a virus software
[06:16] <eido> genii: what if i am ssh is the width determined by the host?
[06:16] <nickrud> nobi-san I'm not real good with http_proxies either, I've never used one. Just know what they are
[06:16] <Myrtti> House_Blend_Pete: scan your whole computer
[06:16] <joanki123> can anyone tell me how to change my header file search path?
[06:16] <afabian> simplechat: force downgrades, that is.
[06:16] <smrz> i'm trying ot use handbrake for hte first time, using the preset "Normal", and when I try to rip my DVD, only the first title is ripped... how do I get it to do all of the titles?
[06:16] <GuillermoB> ﻿hi. i have a dependency problem with libgtk2.0-dev. it asks for libgtk2.0-0 version 2.12.9-3ubuntu4, and i have 2.12.0-4ubuntu3 (because of global menu i think), is there a way to reinstall the proper library?
[06:17] <feld> House_Blend_Pete: eek, mirc? you might have something heh...
[06:17] <Parker1> Wow, room full of experts and not and no one can help me.
[06:17] <genii> eido: Perhaps direct output to a file and look at that
[06:17] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: do sudo mkdir /var/empty
[06:17] <Parker1> I am completely and utterly shocked
[06:17] <Jalathan> Renate: ok, whay you do is restart, press ESC to enter GRUB...
[06:17] <feld> darth: yes rc.local is 755
[06:17] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: and then do sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[06:17] <nobi-san> nickrud:  sounds good to me... wish me luck!  thanks for the help!  night
[06:17] <nickrud> Parker1 sound experts are few and far between
[06:17] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: and see if that works
[06:17] <Jalathan> Parker1: unfortinately, not everyone has expertice with sound cards
[06:17] <Renate> jalathan:  ok'
[06:18] <Jalathan> Renate:   this will present you with a list of options.  there should be a kernel listed something like...
[06:18] <Myrtti> House_Blend_Pete: sorry, but I'll have to remove you from the channel, we can't have you messaging people around. Feel free to /msg me and when you're sure that you're not infected, join #ubuntu-ops. Thanks.
[06:18] <Parker1> It's just a hardware device. I just need to Ubuntu to recognize it. I can do the rest after.
[06:18] <n-iCe> rampageoberon,  ok
[06:18] <Myrtti> House_Blend_Pete: of course you can leave by yourself too
[06:19] <puff> Flannel: Odd, I did sudo reboot to try out -17 and see if eth1 showed up for that.  It shut down, screen went black, the power LED and battery-is-charging LED are both on but it's nto booting up.
[06:19] <Jalathan> Renate: Ubuntu 8.04, kernel 2.6.24-16-generic
[06:19] <eido> genii: no > has the same output as is displayed onscreen
[06:19] <genii> eido: If you just need user list maybe do who -u   it line-wraps on terminals
[06:19] <puff> Flannel: I saw similar behavior before, when I was trying to run under an earlier kernel.
[06:20] <Renate> jalathan:  have seen that before.  list of several of them.  pick a one lower on the list?
[06:20] <Kubuntu_> Hi. Anyone know how to get apt / dpkg to install (track) source code - so that it's part of the package management database ?
[06:20] <joanki123> *sigh* there are days when i wonder WHY i EVER installed linux
[06:20] <Jalathan> Renate: yeah...
[06:20] <Kubuntu_> joanki123:  why ?
[06:20] <eido> genii: -u doesn't seem to correct this either, i tried all the options listed in man
[06:20] <Renate> jalathan:  kk.  will try that.  thanks
[06:20] <puff> Flannel:  In the past, it felt hot,s o I powered down and let it cool down for a while.  When I started it later, it booted normally.
[06:20] <Nanoer> Hey I just installed ubuntu a few hours ago and keep it on freezing on me randomly. 1st when I tried to play a movie using gxine. 2nd when I was shutting down. 3rd when I was trying to save a .mp3 to my computer. Is this normal or any ideas?
[06:20] <Jalathan> Renate: just choose the one that ends with one number lower that the highest
[06:20] <joanki123> Kubuntu_, i can't get stupid basic things to work
[06:20] <joanki123> everything is a mystery
[06:20] <Renate> jalathan:  got it  (hopefully)
[06:21] <genii> eido: Try   users
[06:21] <joanki123> it takes 10x as long to do anything new
[06:21] <Jalathan> Renate: gl
[06:21] <Kubuntu_> joanki123: Yeah ? like what ?
[06:21] <joanki123> like change my header file search path?
[06:21] <rampageoberon> n-iCe: any luck?
[06:21] <joanki123> like get my stupid program to compile
[06:21] <osxdude> hi
[06:21] <eido> genii: that works. i was curious as to why w doesn't but ty
[06:21] <genii> eido: np
[06:22] <Nanoer> Any ideas on the freezes?
[06:22] <nickrud> joanki123 'new' is the operative word here, soon it won't be new ;)
[06:22] <puff> Flannel: Okay, I"m going to let it cool off and try again later.  Thanks for the help.
[06:22] <eido> genii: i wanted to redirect the output into a clean file with the users but i guess i will have to cut and paste
[06:22] <Jalathan> Renate: the highest on would likely end in -18, the one that's numbered -17 would be the one that i'm thinking for test
[06:22] <joanki123> new, nickrud, as in new to me
[06:22] <Jalathan> *one
[06:22] <joanki123> thirty hours just to compile a progrma that takes one flick of a switch off of dev C++
[06:22] <joanki123> and it STILL won't compile!
[06:22] <rampageoberon> eido: use &> to redirect to file
[06:23] <Renate> jalathan:  thank you
[06:23] <joanki123> i'm turning into an alcoholic
[06:23] <rampageoberon> eido: that will redirect stderr and stdout
[06:23] <joanki123> over this darned linux business
[06:23] <joanki123> and a bit suicidal, might i add
[06:23] <Jalathan> !offtopic | joanki123
[06:23] <nickrud> joanki123 that's what I meant. If I had a quarter for every time I wanted to kick my computer when I started linux, I'd be rich (inflation requires the quarter)
[06:23] <legend2440> upgrdman: read post #14     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2988&page=2
[06:23] <unavailable> linksys fw on a wrt54g dhcp not serving ip to my wap54g (dd-wrt)  would dnsmasq be causing a problem??
[06:24] <grael> hi there... anyone know why the vnc option in terminal server client would be disabled?
[06:24] <rampageoberon> grael: it might not be installed
[06:24] <smrz> i'm trying to use handbrake for the first time.. I am doing "handbrake -Z Normal -i /media/cdrom0 -o movie" and it is working, but all that is being ripped is the first title, how do I get it to do all titles?
[06:25] <grael> rampageoberon, does the vnc part of it have a separate package then?
[06:25] <upgrdman> legend2440, i'll try that, thx. bbl
[06:25] <eido> rampageoberon: sorry i dont see how this helps.  i wanted the users full login name with their uptime but w truncates the names i have to manually correct the file by comparing the output of users
[06:25] <rampageoberon> grael: i think its xvnc4viewer
[06:26] <rampageoberon> eido: oh ok
[06:26] <grael> rampageoberon, got it. thank you =)
[06:26] <rampageoberon> np grael
[06:26] <simplechat> afbian, so what exactly should i do?
[06:27] <dmsuperman_> Some of my fstab entries have a UUID entry, and others have /dev entries. I'd like to replace them all with UUID entries (because I'm assuming that these, unlike /dev points and drive letters in windows, don't chage)
[06:27] <dmsuperman_> How can I get a UUID of a drive?
[06:27] <legend2440> dmsuperman_: sudo blkid
[06:28] <darth> nice legend i wanted to know that as well
[06:28] <dmsuperman_> legend2440, thanks :D
[06:28] <eido> rampageoberon: ty though i didn't realize i could output a returned error with &>
[06:29] <nickrud> legend2440 dmacnutt darth try  ls /dev/disk/* , interesting that
[06:29] <afabian> simplechat: hmm.  look in /var/log/dpkg.log ?
[06:29] <rampageoberon> eido: just > returns stdout only &> returns stderr and stdout both
[06:29] <rampageoberon> eido: no probs
[06:29] <simplechat> afabian, should i pastebin it?
[06:29] <afabian> simplechat: It appears as though the updates I did with the update-manager appear here.
[06:29] <eido> rampageoberon: ty that helps if command is lengthy and only portions return an error
[06:29] <simplechat> yeah
[06:30] <billybobgates> renate
[06:30] <darth> yes nickrud, very interesting indeed
[06:30] <rampageoberon> eido how are you checking user uptimes
[06:30] <simplechat> http://pastebin.ca/1043529
[06:30] <simplechat> afabian
[06:30] <darth> rampageoberon, w ?
[06:31] <Renate> billybobgates:  yes?
[06:31] <billybobgates> sorry wrong renate
[06:31] <eido> rampageoberon: just w
[06:31] <rampageoberon> darth eido why not try finger
[06:31] <rampageoberon> finger gives the full name
[06:31] <eido> finger works but i need to enter the full username
[06:31] <afabian> simplechat: you said x crashes after 3 seconds, or .. you can't start a window manager..?
[06:32] <eido> nm
[06:32] <eido> =dumb ...that helps
[06:32] <simplechat> afabian, x crashes three seconds after login screen
[06:32] <rampageoberon> eido: just do finger on its onw, it shows everyone logged in
[06:32] <simplechat> so i log in
[06:32] <simplechat> then it crashes before i can do anything
[06:32] <afabian> simplechat: That's interesting.  The display manager runs fine?
[06:32] <eido> and it also list the full login name ty so much
[06:32] <TOOL> maybe its your cpu fan
[06:33] <rampageoberon> no probs eido
[06:33] <simplechat> afabian, the login screen works perfectly
[06:33] <simplechat> i can leave it for 10 mins, no restart
[06:33] <TOOL> simplechat cpu fan
[06:33] <darth> simplechat, bad ram? memtested it?
[06:33] <simplechat> no matter what wm i use, it will instantaniously reboot on login
[06:33] <simplechat> darth/tool i'm on the same comp now
[06:33] <simplechat> just logged in on the second hdd, 7.04
[06:33] <rabbit-> how can i get all lines in a file that begin with the character 'a' for example
[06:33] <afabian> simplechat: Have you looked it /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[06:34] <darth> lol ok, no clue simplechat sorry
[06:34] <simplechat> what am i looking for afabian
[06:35] <Wolvenhaven> I bought an HP TX2000Z tablet and I am trying to get ubuntu 8.04 to work on it because there are alot of problems.  I have found several threads on the forums which address and fix each specific issue but some of the posts are a month old and I was wondering if there was a general fix or if I am going to have to do it all one step at a time.   Does anyone have/know if there is a fix for this tablet?
[06:35] <afabian> simplechat: A crash of of the X server.  But, if you're having a reboot, ... the kernel was updated recently.  Are you running hardy?
[06:35] <Netham45> will Wubi install off of a CD?
[06:35] <dasukips> I dunno if you guys can help me, but I keep getting "[errno 2] No such file or directory" error every time I try to install Ubuntu. I've tried it on CD's and DVD's, using different roms. I've tried installing on ext2 and 3. It just...doesnt work.  =/
[06:35] <simplechat> (**) fglrx(0):  Default mode "1280x1024": 128.9 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 74.6 kHz, 70.0 Hz
[06:35] <simplechat> what does taht thing happen?
[06:35] <hanak> Hi anyone can tell me where i can delete or add links on the start menu on ubuntu?
[06:35] <rampageoberon> Netham45: yes
[06:35] <simplechat> afabian, not reboot, just black screen
[06:35] <simplechat> cpu keeps running
[06:35] <FloodBot1> simplechat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <simplechat> no video output
[06:36] <simplechat> THanks FloodBot1
[06:36] <rampageoberon> hanak: Applications -> Add/Remove
[06:36] <Wolvenhaven> dasukips: did you burn at 4x speed?
[06:36] <beyta> guys, i have problem... my audacious are not appear after i click...
[06:36] <rampageoberon> hanak: or System -> Preferences -> main Menu
[06:36] <dasukips> Actually, I did burn at the lowest speed.
[06:36] <simplechat> (**) fglrx(0):  Default mode "320x200": 12.6 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz (D)
[06:36] <afabian> simplechat: Ah.  Well, there's a lot information in Xorg.0.log.  I'd look at the end and see if there are any problems reported.   Also, some old logs from before the update might be around.
[06:36] <TOOL> simplechat it realy sounds like a cpu fan
[06:36] <simplechat> its changing the gpu clock frequency
[06:36] <smrz> i'm trying to use handbrake for the first time.. I am doing "handbrake -Z Normal -i /media/cdrom0 -o movie" and it is working, but all that is being ripped is the first title, how do I get it to do all titles?
[06:37] <simplechat> theres a whole bunch of entries
[06:37] <simplechat> with that mhz number dropping evry line
[06:37] <hanak> rampageoberon: thanks
[06:37] <Wolvenhaven> dasukips: on the startup for the livecd there is an automatic checker, have you run that?
[06:37] <bigdaddy0522> hey anyone in here use cedega on hardy distro of ubunutu
[06:37] <beyta> anybody know why?? my audacious not be appear after i click...
[06:37] <dasukips> The CD checker? yeah, it pauses at 99% though.
[06:37] <Wolvenhaven> try letting it run all the way through
[06:38] <dasukips> I waited over an hour.
[06:38] <afabian> simplechat: Yes, you'd want to look toward the end, where errors are likely to occur... possibly grep through it for (WW) warnings, (EE) errors, .. it tags lines, because there's a lot of information.
[06:38] <Wolvenhaven> hmm
[06:38] <Wolvenhaven> when does the error occur during instalation?
[06:38] <dasukips> 25%
[06:38] <Wolvenhaven> installation*
[06:39] <simplechat> (WW) fglrx(0): could not detect X server version (query_status=-3) ?
[06:39] <dasukips> My computer doesnt have an in built CD-ROM so it's connected over USB, if that helps.
[06:39] <simplechat> then theres a whole lot of (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x72  (with the last number changing)
[06:39] <dasukips> I'm thinking of trying a live usb install, IDK if that will workj though.
[06:39] <simplechat> meh
[06:39] <TOOL> do you have more than one partion on your hard drive other than what your trying to install
[06:40] <simplechat> yeah
[06:40] <Wolvenhaven> hmm, ive never tried with usb so i dont know, all my laptops have basestations
[06:41] <afabian> simplechat: Old logs are kept around for a while.  X does a lot of stuff and warnings are pretty routine.  You should probably look for a "good" run with a date from before the update, and compare it with a run from after the update, and see if there were any changes.
[06:41] <simplechat> afabian i'm not sure what that is
[06:41] <simplechat> its been randomly rebooting for quite awhile
[06:41] <dasukips> .   /home on a SDHC card, 3.7GB '/' on inbuilt flash, with 270mb swap.
[06:41] <simplechat> TOOL: i have a / and a /home
[06:41] <simplechat> and a second / (this /)
[06:42] <oxeimon> Hi, is it true that a fat32 file system cannot hold files greater than 4gb in size?
[06:42] <simplechat> which is what i'm booting from now
[06:42] <simplechat> oxeimon, yes
[06:42] <Wolvenhaven> yes
[06:42] <afabian> simplechat: Well, you said it's not rebooting, just that the screen is blanking.  Reboot is pretty different than X crashing.
[06:42] <Wolvenhaven> is it failing during the partitioning or the isntallation itself?
[06:42] <dasukips> But the thing is...
[06:42] <dasukips> It works well on gutsy
[06:42] <dasukips> fails with hardy
[06:42] <simplechat> afabian, sorry, i'm used to calling them reboots because i have to. unresponcive to keyboard and mouse
[06:42] <TOOL> does a/ represent your root folder
[06:42] <dasukips> I tried linux mint, also works
[06:42] <simplechat> but yeah, they just lock up
[06:42] <Wolvenhaven> you could do a kernel upgrade from gusty to hardy
[06:42] <dasukips> yes simplechat
[06:43] <simplechat> dasmaze, yes?
[06:43] <TOOL> sounds good to me
[06:43] <simplechat> TOOL?
[06:43] <AlexW> If i just inserted a new wireless card do I have todo something ofr ubuntu to recognise it?
[06:43] <TOOL> up date your kernel
[06:44] <dasukips> ughhh, damn 8.04 :(
[06:44] <Wolvenhaven> so no one knows anything about the tx2000z tablet?
[06:44] <TOOL> what kind pcmcia or pci
[06:44] <simplechat> TOOL: i have a couple of hundred packages
[06:44] <simplechat> and i'm not sure that if i upgrade weather i'm just going to kill this install as well
[06:44] <connor> whats the ubuntu offtopic channel?
[06:44] <connor> whats it called more exactly
[06:45] <radius_> -
[06:45] <TOOL> simplechat 's having troble with instalation
[06:45] <radius_> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:45] <connor> thank you
[06:45] <radius_>  :)
[06:46] <simplechat> TOOL i'm having trouble with the last round of updates
[06:46] <simplechat> i'm thinking
[06:46] <TOOL> so redownload them again
[06:46] <simplechat> that or the comps dying
[06:46] <simplechat> TOOL, they downloaded file
[06:46] <simplechat> *fine
[06:46] <TOOL> cpu fan
[06:46] <simplechat> the packages are dodgy
[06:46] <TOOL> cpu fan check it
[06:46] <TOOL> seriously it happend to me
[06:47] <TOOL> or mem
[06:47] <simplechat> i'm taking my comp apart when i get back home
[06:47] <dasukips> Also, how do I find the mount point of ny SD card?
[06:47] <simplechat> mems run memtest86 for a couple of hours
[06:47] <dasukips> my*
[06:47] <TOOL> it would boot and work for about 10 min then die
[06:48] <Wolvenhaven> guys, is there an easy way to download packages to a flashdrive so i can install them on a laptop thats not connecting to the network?
[06:48] <legend2440> dasukips: type mount in terminal
[06:48] <afabian> Wolvenhaven: Synaptic can generate a download shell script.
[06:48] <dasukips> Thanks.
[06:48] <Flannel> !aptoncd | Wolvenhaven
[06:49] <tmapj> is Starnestommy in?
[06:49] <tmapj> could anyone tell me what the command is to back up from a "my-packages" list?
[06:50] <TOOL> simplechat why are your afaid to loose your packages you can always' find them again
[06:50] <TOOL> simplechat why are you afaid to loose your packages you can always' find them again
[06:51] <tmapj> is anyone alive out there?
[06:51] <TOOL> u
[06:51] <simplechat> tmapj, i am
[06:51] <TOOL> im dead
[06:51] <tmapj> hey simple
[06:51] <lmessenger> its pretty quiet
[06:51] <simplechat> TOOL good point
[06:52] <simplechat> its more that i don't want to have to reinstall everything a second time
[06:52] <tmapj> simple could you tell me the command to back up from a "my-packages" list?
[06:52] <simplechat> how do i get a list of everything i've installed?
[06:52] <simplechat> yeah
[06:52] <JoshGr> so i have an uniterruptable process
[06:52] <tmapj> it appears we're in the same boat simplechat
[06:53] <B_166-ER-X> help : on gutsy : I cannot find how to change 'Associations' i want MMS links to open with mplayer, but it keeps trying to open with Totem.     Please.. !
[06:53] <tmapj> but i can help you simple
[06:53] <sauvin> simplechat, dpkg -l, maybe?
[06:53] <JoshGr> sudo kill does nothing
[06:53] <tmapj> simplechat: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[06:53] <simplechat> sauvin, if i'm not on the system itself
[06:53] <JoshGr> and it is running at 100% cpu
[06:53] <simplechat> i have the drive mounted
[06:53] <tmapj> could anyone tell me what the command is to back up from a "my-packages" list?
[06:53] <JoshGr> but i dont want to reboot
[06:53] <simplechat> its in /media/disk-1
[06:53] <B_166-ER-X> joshGr its sudo kill all
[06:54] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: do you mind waiting one min so i can load a livecd?
[06:54] <sauvin> erm.... you mean, you're not in ubuntu, you're in some other OS?
[06:54] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan ?
[06:54] <Jalathan> i'm in 8.04, the locations are different
[06:54] <simplechat> but yeah
[06:54] <simplechat> tmapj?
[06:54] <JoshGr> that doesnt work either
[06:54] <tmapj> could anyone tell me what the command is to back up from a "my-packages" list?
[06:54]  * Jalathan used kde during gutsy too...
[06:55] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan, np
[06:55] <JoshGr> sudo killal returns "no process killed"
[06:55] <tmapj> yes simplechat?
[06:55] <Flannel> tmapj: read the second part of that factoid
[06:55] <javier> hola
[06:55] <afabian> simplechat: in that case, the chroot might be handy.  chroot /media/disk-1 /bin/bash   ... then execute the dpkg command to get the package list.
[06:55] <JoshGr> the state of the process is Dl
[06:55] <simplechat> how do i use those commands wehn the drive in question isn't mounted
[06:55] <Duduman> I get Error 17 when I boot what should I do
[06:55] <tmapj> simplechat: that doesnt work for me
[06:55] <simplechat> chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Permission denied
[06:55] <tmapj> could anyone tell me what the command is to back up from a "my-packages" list?
[06:55] <simplechat> the disk is mounted read only for some reason
[06:56] <JoshGr> is it possible for a process to be unkillable on linux?
[06:56] <connor> no
[06:56] <simplechat> it can be zombie
[06:56] <genii> no
[06:56] <connor> xkill
[06:56] <connor> or killall
[06:56] <Duduman> How do I remove Ubuntu_
[06:56] <simplechat> JoshGr, if a process is sleeping then it can't accept the kill signal
[06:56] <connor> what?
[06:56] <afabian> simplechat: permission denied can happen for a lot of reasons.  Maybe no read permission?  you could try the big stick.  sudo chroot ... heh.
[06:56] <JoshGr> under system manager it says "uninteruptible"
[06:56] <JoshGr> killall does nothing
[06:56] <B_166-ER-X> joshgr with sudo kill all *program name*
[06:56] <connor> joshgr: go to the terminal, type in xkill, and click on teh program
[06:57] <connor> that you want to kill
[06:57] <javier> lolz
[06:57] <javier> big stick
[06:57] <andersfeder> i just updated firefox through ubuntu repos and now the version shows as "Firefox 3" ... no beta or RC version numbers .. whats up?
[06:57] <javier> tu kill el stick de grande
[06:57] <javier> si?
[06:57] <simplechat> afabian, this is running as root
[06:57] <Alan_M> !es | javier
[06:57] <JoshGr> the program is not running on my desktop anywhere
[06:57] <Duduman> How do I format a Hard drive?
[06:57] <dfgas> what is the difference between a normal background and a svg background
[06:58] <JoshGr> i cant see it
[06:58] <JoshGr> its pidgin
[06:58] <JoshGr> for some reason
[06:58] <JoshGr> which i dont have running
[06:58] <javier> hablo ingles y espanol
[06:58] <JoshGr> and it adjusts itself to use all available cpu
[06:58] <JoshGr> as in everytime i close a program it uses more
[06:58] <simplechat> afabian, anything else?
[06:58] <SurenS> hey guys, could i get some help with partition issues?
[06:58] <tmapj> !cloning
[06:59] <javier> I don't like ubuntu
[06:59] <dfgas> !svg
[06:59] <afabian> simplechat: ahh.. you could try to see what the deal is.  ls -l /media/disk-1/bin/bash ... find out why permission denied happens.
[06:59] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: ok, one min, almost booted
[06:59] <JoshGr> so killall and xkill both dont work
[06:59] <B_166-ER-X> Jalathan     ok
[06:59] <javier> !automate
[06:59] <Duduman> Hello can someone please Help
[06:59] <Duduman> I wanna remove Ubuntu how do I do that _
[06:59] <javier> !cloning
[06:59] <B_166-ER-X> Live cd is slow usually
[06:59] <SurenS> anyone able to help me fix my partitions?
[07:00] <afabian> javier: To quote Nikolai Levin from Anna Karenina, if you don't like it, there's your hat and there's the door. ;)
[07:00] <simplechat> afabian, -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 702160 2008-05-13 04:33 /media/disk-1/bin/bash
[07:00] <Alan_M> !askthebot | javier
[07:00] <JoshGr> i think this program is unkillable
[07:00] <JoshGr> *process
[07:01] <JoshGr> what can i do if xkill does not work?
[07:01] <ashish> how can i block website in firefox
[07:01] <ubuntu_sucks> xkill doesnt work for me either
[07:01] <simplechat> ashish why do you want to do that?
[07:01] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: hrm, this'll be a little bit here, the option isn't where i thought it to be
[07:01] <SurenS> please! msg me if anyone is able to help me with issues with my partitions
[07:01] <ashish> plz help me how can i block website in firefox
[07:01] <bazhang> ubuntu_sucks, stop please
[07:01] <afabian> simplechat: Hmm.  I dunno.  It seems like the chroot should work.
[07:01] <legend2440> andersfeder: yes in  Help>About it says Firefox 3 but it is actually Firefox RC1 according to synaptic
[07:01] <ashish> from being used by children
[07:01] <SurenS> anyone?
[07:01] <Alan_M> bazhang, i think we have a troll :/
[07:01] <simplechat> afabian, yep
[07:01] <B_166-ER-X> Jalathan , yeap its not in 'preference - prefered apps'  ;)
[07:02] <simplechat> this ain't nice
[07:02] <Jalathan> :P
[07:02] <JoshGr> what can you do if xkill doesn't work?
[07:02] <SurenS> please?
[07:02] <JoshGr> what is the "next step" as it were
[07:02] <ubuntuRULES> ubuntu wont
[07:02] <ubuntuRULES> run
[07:02] <simplechat> ashish, i didn't get the rest of that sentence?
[07:02] <ubuntuRULES> properly
[07:02] <Alan_M> !enter | ubuntuRULES
[07:03] <bazhang> ubuntuRULES, do you have an actual question? otherwise take chat elsewhere
[07:03] <afabian> simplechat: sometimes, I get the arguments to chroot in the wrong order.  Maybe try switching them around?... I looked at the man page... eh, I'm grasping at straws now.
[07:03] <ashish> i want to block because of children.
[07:03] <ubuntuRULES> I do. firefox won't launch
[07:03] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: is it only within Firefox?
[07:03] <simplechat> afabian, they are in the correct order
[07:03] <bazhang> ashish, firefox has a plugin; also see dansguardian
[07:04] <ubuntuRULES> firefox opens and closes
[07:04] <afabian> simplechat: ... let's see..
[07:04] <JoshGr> can anyone help me kill this process
[07:04] <afabian> simplechat: perhaps the partition is mounted with noexec permission.
[07:04] <ubuntuRULES> can anyone help me??
[07:04] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan, nope, in fact its mostly to use a 'TV' screelets, on the desktop, and everytime it try's to open a stream (MMS stream) it opens with TOTEM , whatever i do , it seems it have to do with file association or soemething
[07:04] <simplechat> afabian yeah
[07:04] <prakriti> JoshGr: kill -9 ?
[07:05] <simplechat> how would i remount it?
[07:05] <bazhang> ubuntuRULES, with that bare bones amount of info not really
[07:05] <B_166-ER-X> the maker of the app, said that we had to change it in firefox, wich i think i did (added 2 lines in About:config)
[07:05] <ubuntuRULES> well thats what happens
[07:05] <afabian> simplechat : ehh.. something like (hopefully) mount -o remount,exec /media/disk-1
[07:05] <SurenS> is anyone able to help me?
[07:05] <simplechat> that worked :D
[07:05] <simplechat> yaay
[07:05] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: lemme see here...
[07:05] <simplechat> ok, so now what? ;d
[07:06] <simplechat> its now chrooted :)
[07:06] <JoshGr> prakriti: thanks, but that didn't work
[07:06] <afabian> simplechat: try the chroot again?
[07:06] <JoshGr> it's still alive
[07:06] <simplechat> afabian chrooted
[07:06] <bazhang> SurenS, what is the issue with your partitions
[07:06]  * ubuntuRULES isnt getting anyhelp
[07:06] <prakriti> JoshGr : what is the status of the process?
[07:06] <afabian> simplechat: ... well, someone gave you a dpkg command to get your list of selections.  It should work in this chroot environment.
[07:06] <JoshGr> "uninterruptible"
[07:06] <SurenS> bazhang, thanks... my partition issues is that fdisk shows my partitions as working, but gparted shows my disk as unallocated
[07:06] <JoshGr> and the state is Dl
[07:06] <JoshGr> i think this is a bad thing
[07:06] <SurenS> (if that makes sense)
[07:07] <bazhang> ubuntuRULES, you need to provide substantial info; error messages etc. saying it does not work will get no help
[07:07] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan : this , in fact . http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/internet+TV+Screenlet?content=70183
[07:07] <ubuntuRULES> ok let me try again
[07:07] <prakriti> JoshGr: D is waiting on device
[07:07] <simplechat> is there any way to rollback the changes from the last install?
[07:07] <simplechat> from there?
[07:07] <ubuntuRULES> I get error 0249
[07:07] <SurenS> bazhang, did that make sense?
[07:07] <JoshGr> josh     11620 32.1 53.7 2814632 550904 ?      Dl   16:30 127:03 pidgin
[07:07] <bazhang> SurenS, what are you trying to do
[07:07] <JoshGr> the process has been running for 2 hours
[07:08] <Alan_M> ubuntuRULES, when trying to do what?
[07:08] <o_kOngZz> dsadas
[07:08] <bazhang> o_kOngZz, english please
[07:08] <SurenS> bazhang, well im on an asus laptop. vista recently decided to stop booting, so i recovered vista using the recovery partition included. however, this somehow mucked everything else up
[07:08] <o_kOngZz> OK
[07:08] <JoshGr> that is the px aux output by the way
[07:08] <ubuntuRULES> Alan_M. when I try to open firefox
[07:08] <simplechat> afabian i have a list of packages
[07:08] <SurenS> but i specifically chose to recover ONLY TO FIRST PARTITION
[07:08] <SurenS> :S
[07:08] <simplechat> is there any way to remove the fagrix drivers for the time being?
[07:09] <afabian> simplechat: I don't know of any simple way to do it.  Only the slow, painful, manual way.. essentially, looking at that dpkg.log file, and forcing the install of old packages/debs.
[07:09] <bazhang> SurenS, do you get a grub menu in your dual boot situation anymore?
[07:09] <Alan_M> ubunturules, where are you getting this at? is there a popup window? is there text in a terminal?
[07:09] <o_kOngZz> ehm
[07:09] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: kk, ty
[07:09] <rampageoberon> finger
[07:09] <JoshGr> prarkriti: could you possibly elaborate on what it means for it to be "waiting on the device"?
[07:09] <ubuntuRULES> alan m. in a pop up
[07:09] <rampageoberon> crap
[07:09] <rampageoberon> wrong window
[07:09] <SurenS> bazhang, no. i was running easybcd before, as i installed grub to (hd0,4)
[07:09] <SurenS> but now this no longer works
[07:09] <JoshGr> and any way i could stop it from waiting
[07:10] <bazhang> !info easybcd
[07:10] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: do you have the mplayer plugin yet?
[07:10] <afabian> simplechat: If you know the name of the package (you should get it from dpkg -l ... sometimes, unfortunately, dpkg -l cuts off package names, so you might need to do something like COLUMNS=300 dpkg -l ... then... dpkg -r packageWithfagrixdrivers ... maybe?
[07:10] <simplechat> afabian, can i sudo apt-get remove fagrix?
[07:10] <simplechat> or?
[07:10] <bigdaddy0522> hey i need help, i am trying to install cedega .deb but it wont let me, says another software management tool is in use...but nothing is open how do i find what is open and how do i close it
[07:10] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan, mplayer-mozilla , yep
[07:10] <SurenS> bazhang, i reinstalled easybcd but the easybcd menu nor grub appears on boot... it boots straight into vista
[07:10] <afabian> simplechat: does apt-get do that?  I always use the "aptitude" command.  But, yeah, .. maybe.
[07:10] <bazhang> SurenS, sounds like you may need to reinstall grub
[07:11] <sauvin> simplechat, did you get an answer to your question about finding out what's installed on a foreign install's media?
[07:11] <bazhang> heh
[07:11] <prakriti> JoshGr : do you know what it might be waiting on?
[07:11] <simplechat> sauvin, chroot into the directory, then dpkg
[07:11] <JoshGr> i do not know
[07:11] <prakriti> JoshGr : try: lsof -p pid
[07:11] <prakriti> where pid is the process id
[07:11] <ubuntuRULES> Alan_M. I get a pop up and then it closes
[07:11] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: did you assign all of the needed associations through the plugin?
[07:11] <simplechat> afabian, dpkg -l has no newlines
[07:11] <SurenS> bazhang, but there are other issues as well. when i recovered vista, my second (DATA) partition was 'corrupt and unreadable'. So i backed up files and formatted it. but now gparted does not show my partitions, only fdisk does
[07:11] <sauvin> Oh. Yea, that might even work. I found the following file: /var/lib/dpkg/status
[07:11] <bazhang> ubuntuRULES, post a screenshot
[07:12] <ubuntuRULES> I don't know how
[07:12] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan, by that you mean.. ? where ?
[07:12] <bazhang> !screencast | ubuntuRULES
[07:12] <JoshGr> what am i looking for
[07:12] <bigdaddy0522> anyone help me with install of cedega
[07:12] <afabian> simplechat: That's very strange.  try echo $TERM to see what terminal type is set.
[07:12] <bazhang> ubuntuRULES, use one of those on the popup error message
[07:12] <prakriti> JoshGr : what program is it?
[07:12] <SurenS> bazhang, my partition table according to fdisk
[07:13] <SurenS> Disk /dev/sda: 200.0 GB, 200049647616 bytes
[07:13] <SurenS> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 24321 cylinders
[07:13] <SurenS> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[07:13] <SurenS> Disk identifier: 0xa67884f5
[07:13] <SurenS>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[07:13] <FloodBot1> SurenS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:13] <JoshGr> pidgin
[07:13] <Jalathan> !pastebin
[07:13] <simplechat> afabian, xterm
[07:13] <prakriti> JoshGr : ... odd
[07:13] <Alan_M> Jalathan, floodbot sends out a messge if it gets triggered :)
[07:13] <JoshGr> the only devices i see in the output
[07:13] <bazhang> dev/sda is where vista is SurenS ?
[07:13] <prakriti> JoshGr : did you check dmesg or /var/log/messages for any disk read errors?
[07:13] <SurenS> yes
[07:13] <afabian> simplechat: are you running X right now..?  is it an xterm or gnome-terminal or something?
[07:13] <SurenS> bazhang, i only have one hd
[07:13] <simplechat> afabian, gnome
[07:14] <JoshGr> are /dev/null and /dev/shm
[07:14] <SurenS> bazhang, here is my paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18968/
[07:14] <bazhang> SurenS, there seems to be no other bootable partition there
[07:14] <simplechat> i need to head off
[07:14] <dasukips> Another noob question, how would I find the name of my SD card, eg default USB name is "/media/disk-1"  etc.
[07:14] <simplechat> cyas
[07:14] <JoshGr> prakriti: i will try that thank you very much
[07:14] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: one min here...
[07:14] <afabian> simplechat: That's strange.  I've never seen it lack newlines.  Good luck.
[07:14] <SurenS> right, so the ubuntu partition needs to be made bootable. do you know how i can do this?
[07:15] <Dasmoover> hello, can anyone help me with wine? i seemed to gave uninstalled it and when i reinstall it .wine folder isnt created and my settings are still there.
[07:15] <simplechat> be back sometime
[07:15] <bazhang> SurenS, it does not even seem to exist anymore
[07:16] <SurenS> bazhang, here is an annotated paste
[07:16] <SurenS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18969/
[07:17] <SurenS> /dev/sda5 is my ubuntu partition
[07:17] <dasukips> So how would I find the device name of the SD?
[07:17] <SurenS> bazhang, using the livecd, i can still access /dev/sda2, sda3 and sda5, and the files contained in each of them
[07:18] <bazhang> SurenS, what does creating a new user do.
[07:18] <AlexW> if i just installed a new pci wireless card what do i have todo?
[07:18] <SurenS> so everything is still there, but gparted refuses to accept this, and i can no longer boot to ubuntu as easybcd menu does not work
[07:18] <AlexW> i was told to update my kernel :/
[07:18] <SurenS> bazhang, what do you mean? creating a new user in ubuntu? im currently using the livecd
[07:18] <bullgard4> After a restart bash history in a GNOME terminal prints some entries in the format  cd "`echo -e '\0057home\0057detlef\0057gnome\0057gnome\0055volume\0055manager\0055\0062\0056\0062\0062\0056\0061'`" instead of the format 'cd /home/detlef/gnome/gnome-volume-manager-2.22.1'. Is this a bug or a feature?
[07:19] <SurenS> bazhang, and do i have to fix this error? "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary."
[07:19] <bazhang> SurenS, that is serious if right
[07:19] <JoshGr> prakriti: the only thing in /var/log/messages around that type is Jun  9 16:24:43 josh-laptop -- MARK -- (actually a few of those)
[07:19] <JoshGr> around that time*
[07:20] <SurenS> bazhang, are you referring to the cylinder boundary issue?
[07:20] <SurenS> and if so, how can i fix that? any easy method?
[07:20] <bazhang> SurenS, yes
[07:20] <dasukips> What do I type in terminal to find the mount points and device names?
[07:20] <bullgard4> dasukips: mount
[07:21] <SurenS> bazhang, ok, well i have backed up /dev/sda(3 and 5). i can delete any partitions other than /dev/sda1 and 2
[07:21] <Dasmoover> Dasukips?
[07:21] <Dasmoover> wow, memes.
[07:21] <dasukips> lol
[07:21] <SurenS> bazhang, so is it fixable without losing data on my /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2 partitions?
[07:22] <JoshGr> i have never been unable to kill a process before this is a new experience
[07:22] <bazhang> SurenS, the partition boundary is on first partition though right?
[07:22] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: sorry, xserver just crashed
[07:22] <B_166-ER-X> np
[07:22] <SurenS> bazhang, sorry, im not sure what that means? :S
[07:22] <frank_b> what's the linux equivalent of a the "tracert" windows command to see which servers does a connection to a site passes through?
[07:22] <SurenS> what is the partition boundary?
[07:23] <bazhang> SurenS, sorry the cylinder boundary
[07:23] <SurenS> bazhang, the  cylinder boundary (i think) exists between partition 1 and 2, yes.
[07:23] <feld> when you report a bug on launchpad does it show up right away? i wonder if my bug didn't get reported correctly.....
[07:23] <anto> frank23, trace
[07:23] <lut4rp> feld, yes it does
[07:24] <SurenS> bazhang, the notification appears between /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2, yes
[07:24] <frank_b> anto, I suppose that was for me, thanks
[07:24] <bazhang> SurenS, what is on partition 2
[07:24] <feld> lut4rp: ok. well i'll report again. I also fixed the bug. YAY.
[07:24] <SurenS> vista
[07:24] <SurenS> bazhang, vista
[07:24] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: ok...
[07:25] <frank_b> "command not found"
[07:25] <bazhang> SurenS, I dont know enough about how vista 'repairs' things to give advice on that; since you have backed up all your linux stuff at least that is safe.
[07:25] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: open up nautilus
[07:25] <B_166-ER-X> done
[07:25] <Jalathan> goto ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[07:25] <frank_b> I found a web page about it, thanks anyway
[07:25] <B_166-ER-X> k
[07:25] <vega--> just run upgrade on hardy, these packages got upgraded: http://pastebin.com/m22de8432 exactly which one of them requires a reboot? (update manager wants to do that)
[07:25] <Jalathan> open up the profile
[07:25] <sauvin> I installed compiz, and enabled it. What special effects should I be seeing?
[07:25] <microwaver> question : how to set ubuntu booting up with num lock enabled ?
[07:25] <Jalathan> open plugin.dat
[07:25] <teckfatt> hello, anyone know how to keep the program running after logout the user terminal??
[07:25] <Jalathan> *pluginreg.dat
[07:25] <bazhang> teckfatt, add &
[07:26] <microwaver> sauvin > also install : Advanced Dekstop Effects
[07:26] <connor> i restarted my computer and got a weird erorr message
[07:26] <Duduman> Can Someone please help me_
[07:26] <SurenS> bazhang, understood. i cannot lose data from partition 1 or 2: partition 1 is my recovery partition... without that i can never recover vista again. partition 2 hold vista which can be deleted given partition 1 is still there, but the thing is, i backed up some data from partition 3 onto partition 2, and i can't afford to lose that data
[07:26] <Jalathan> sauvin: smoother animations, at least a little bling
[07:26] <teckfatt> bazhang: how about software like rtorrent
[07:26] <smrz> I am trying to use handbrake for the first time, and using the command: "handbrake -Z Normal -i /media/cdrom0/ -o video" however, this only rips the first title, does anyone know how to get it to rip all of hte titles?
[07:26] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: ready?
[07:26] <Duduman> I wanna remove Grub
[07:26] <Jalathan> !grub
[07:26] <sauvin> Advanced desktop effects, eh?
[07:27] <Flannel> Duduman: What are you planning on using instead?
[07:27] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan, i dont see the file, 2 sec
[07:27] <Duduman> Windows
[07:27] <Jalathan> Duduman: sorry, couldn't remember
[07:27] <connor> could someone tell me what may have caused this error message?
[07:27] <connor> http://s36.photobucket.com/albums/e8/psp12/?action=view&current=Screenshot-4.png
[07:27] <bazhang> teckfatt, rtorrent? you may want to consider screen for that
[07:27] <Flannel> Duduman: Alright, throw your windows CD back in, and fixmbr
[07:27] <microwaver> question : how to set ubuntu booting up with num lock enabled ?
[07:28] <Duduman> I have Error 17 in grub
[07:28] <connor> what does it say?
[07:28] <Flannel> Duduman: You didn't fixmbr properly then
[07:28] <Duduman> can I do this from Ubuntu
[07:28] <Azure1234> Hello?
[07:28] <connor> hi
[07:28] <bazhang> SurenS, do you have some medium to back up onto like a usb stick or other? may want to save that if the worst occurs
[07:28] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan, yea, ok sry, the file was not in the profile, , jsut directly in /firefox   , ready now
[07:28] <Chrasange> hey, i have HardyHeron disk for 64bit and it wont boot in ANY desktop, ideas?
[07:28] <connor> hmm
[07:28] <Flannel> Duduman: No, because the windows disc is the only thing (that I know of) that'll do it for you
[07:28] <connor> are you setting your bios to boot from the cd drive?
[07:29]  * sauvin doesn't find "advanced desktop effects"
[07:29] <Chrasange> connor, it installed fine but when i log in it flickers then goes BACK to the log in screen
[07:29] <Duduman> after throwing it in?
[07:29] <connor> hmm
[07:29] <Flannel> Duduman: The problem isn't that Linux can't do it, but that Linux doesn' have the information to do it
[07:29] <connor> try reinstalling
[07:29] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: sorry, forgot about the differences... ok...
[07:29] <SurenS> bazhang, i do have a usb stick, but the backup data is in the area of about 35GB, so my usb won't fit
[07:29] <Flannel> d
[07:29] <connor> or try using wubi
[07:29] <Chrasange> connor, done, 11x already
[07:29] <connor> wow
[07:29] <connor> um
[07:29] <Chrasange> i did wubi 3 times
[07:29] <connor> i dont know then >__>
[07:29] <Duduman> Where should I type fixmbr
[07:29] <FloodBot1> connor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:29] <connor> what
[07:29] <Chrasange> gehk
[07:29] <pjotr> sauvin: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:29] <bazhang> connor, dont hit enter so often
[07:30] <Azure1234> if anyone has a moment, i'd like to ask about the current ubuntu update 8.04 ... is there somthing wrong with the ISO? i have downloaded it repeatedly and every time the image has been corupt.
[07:30] <connor> k
[07:30] <Flannel> Duduman: no, you have to boot to the CD.  and then... go to the recovery console and "fixmbr"
[07:30] <Duduman> ok thanks a lot
[07:30] <connor> azure1234: its probably your computer, i downloaded the image today and it worked fine
[07:30] <sauvin> pjotr, it's already installed.
[07:30] <Azure1234> ok, Connor, which mirror did you download it from?
[07:30] <bazhang> SurenS, what about incremental backups-->shifting a bit at a time
[07:30] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: ok, look for Totem Web Browser Plugin 2.22.1:$
[07:31] <Chrasange> OK, so any ideas? The only desktop that works is the Failsafe Terminal
[07:31] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: better yet, could you pastebin the dat file?
[07:31] <nekostar> !ops if yer net staff ... sorry but politics needs help bad
[07:31] <SurenS> bazhang, that could work, but i have nowhere to store the incremental backups
[07:31] <B_166-ER-X> !pastebin
[07:31] <nekostar> ~_~
[07:31] <nekostar> /stabs bot/
[07:31] <bazhang> nekostar, what is the issue
[07:31] <JoshGr> can anyone help me: I have an "uninterruptible" in state "Dl" that is using 99% cpu and 99% memory. xkill, kill -9, killall, etc. had no affect
[07:31] <Chrasange> ubottu k?
[07:32] <JoshGr> uniterrruptible process that is
[07:32] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan http://paste.ubuntu.com/18972/
[07:32] <Jalathan> kk
[07:32] <nekostar> bazhang it might be good now
[07:32] <nekostar> but superspam bots
[07:32] <nekostar> dont mean to abuse !ops
[07:32] <bazhang> nekostar, go to #freenode for that
[07:32] <nekostar> yeah check /stats p
[07:32] <nekostar> :P
[07:32] <Chrasange> OK, where can I get some profesional help, real PROS?
[07:32] <SurenS> bazhang, for example, i can backup to my desktop comp (and a lot of the backup data, around 40GB, i have transferred to that computer) but its hard disk is almost full... only about 4 or 5 GB left
[07:33] <Zoup>  im getting 'stdin: is not a tty' on ssh login , any idea ?
[07:33] <nekostar> Chrasange eh?
[07:33] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: brb
[07:33] <nekostar> for what
[07:33] <Chrasange> nekostar, i need the help of a super pro, good enough to program even
[07:33] <bazhang> Chrasange, you want paid support? or volunteers?
[07:33] <UbuntuNoob760> hello?
[07:33] <Chrasange> I don't need someone to program, but I do need tech support from some1 good enough to do so in Linux
[07:33] <bazhang> Chrasange, contact canonical
[07:34] <Chrasange> I don't speak Hollandish
[07:34] <connor> help
[07:34] <UbuntuNoob760> can anyone hear me?
[07:34] <sauvin> Chrasange, what kind of help are you looking for?
[07:34] <nekostar> Chrasange specifically help with what?
[07:34] <Flannel> !hi | UbuntuNoob760
[07:34] <nekostar> UbuntuNoob760 yup
[07:34] <alecs> UbuntuNoob760: no
[07:34] <connor> when playing games, the animation is REALLY choppy, could someone help me out?
[07:34] <Chrasange> With booting Ubuntu 8.04
[07:34] <Myrtti> Chrasange: ... they will answer you in English if you call them
[07:34] <UbuntuNoob760> am i in the #ubuntu channel?
[07:34] <nekostar> Chrasange go on
[07:34] <connor> yes
[07:34] <Myrtti> UbuntuNoob760: yes you are
[07:34] <alecs> yea
[07:34] <bazhang> connor, which games-->using wine or no
[07:35] <nekostar> what is your exact situation, i do this stuff for a living... :P:
[07:35] <connor> stepmania- using wine
[07:35] <UbuntuNoob760> hmm.. i didnt know you need xchat for this ?
[07:35] <UbuntuNoob760> i was just using my pidgin IRC
[07:35] <bazhang> connor, go to #winehq
[07:35] <connor> im not using the linux version cuz i have theme for the version i am using
[07:35] <connor> uh
[07:35] <Chrasange> nekostar, ok well i've installed it several times and every time i'm unable to log into ANY desktop other than terminal, the screen just flickers and get's back to the log in
[07:35] <nekostar> UbuntuNoob760 you just need to be able to get on irc ;)
[07:35] <connor> my last install worked fine
[07:35] <Myrtti> !who | nekostar
[07:35] <UbuntuNoob760> Hey anyway
[07:35] <nekostar> Myrtti shh
[07:35] <nekostar> Chrasange what video card do you have
[07:35] <UbuntuNoob760> i been on a mission trying to get my logitech pro cam 5000 working...?
[07:36] <UbuntuNoob760> any successful stories?
[07:36] <Kartagis> hi
[07:36] <Chrasange> nekostar, it's an integrated ATI Xpress200
[07:36] <SurenS> bazhang, any ideas?
[07:36] <Kartagis> how do i upgrade specific packages?
[07:36] <Chrasange> I tried in "safe graphics" but even then I can't get online
[07:36] <dasukips> Oh...what does !tab do?
[07:36] <nekostar> Chrasange ok so you can boot up and go into the desktop just fine but you cant get into a console [tty] correct?
[07:36] <bazhang> SurenS, what initially caused this?
[07:36] <alecs> bye! i have to go to work now
[07:37] <alecs> c you later!
[07:37] <smrz> I am trying to use handbrake for the first time, and using the command: "handbrake -Z Normal -i /media/cdrom0/ -o video" however, this only rips the first title, does anyone know how to get it to rip all of hte titles?
[07:37] <Chrasange> nekostar, no I can't get into any desktop except terminal or i can boot in "safe Graphics" off the CD
[07:37] <SurenS> bazhang, vista did not boot for a while, then i recovered it using the recovery partition, but that somehow screwed up the other partitions
[07:37] <nekostar> oh
[07:37] <nekostar> so you can get in the tty's but you cannot get into the gui then.
[07:37] <SurenS> bazhang, btw atm i am running testdisk and trying to recover any lost partitions that might be out there :S
[07:37] <zala> allow
[07:37] <nekostar> were you ever able to?
[07:37] <Chrasange> nekostar....i is a SUPER noob
[07:37] <UbuntuNoob760> Anyone out there successfully install a logitech procam 5000 on ubuntu?
[07:37] <UbuntuNoob760>  :[
[07:38] <nekostar> Chrasange no big deal we got cha covered
[07:38] <bazhang> SurenS, my first bit of advice is to ask in the windows channel about that partitioning issue; we can deal with the backing up of ubuntu stuff after that
[07:38] <Chrasange> ah
[07:38] <nekostar> UbuntuNoob760 did you check google?
[07:38] <simi> hi, i want to connect to a motorola phone with a usb cable , i set the phone to be seen as a removable disk but nothing happens in my kubuntu hardy when i lug it in. I tested in xp and it works so the phone is corect configured,
[07:38] <Chrasange> http://googleisfree.com
[07:38] <Chrasange> XD
[07:38] <alkem258> hey guys, got a major problem.
[07:38] <UbuntuNoob760> yea.. ive done alot of research on it. my closest bet seemed to be quickcamteam.com
[07:38] <UbuntuNoob760> nekostar
[07:38] <dasukips> Logitech procam 4000 running on cheese works fine.
[07:38] <SurenS> bazhang, yep, sounds good but in the windows channel, no one has any ideas how this occurred or how to fix it while keeping ubuntu viable
[07:39] <UbuntuNoob760> o really?
[07:39] <UbuntuNoob760> hm..
[07:39] <pjotr> simi: sudo fdisk -l
[07:39] <bazhang> Chrasange, if you want PRO help, then stop kidding around please
[07:39] <UbuntuNoob760> well im trying to avoid having to buy a different camera
[07:39] <Chrasange> Ok, i'm sorry
[07:39] <nekostar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118517
[07:39] <nekostar> that thread post 8
[07:39] <nekostar>  @ UbuntuNoob760
[07:39] <bazhang> SurenS, they just told you to reinstall?
[07:39] <UbuntuNoob760> thnx nekostar
[07:39] <alkem258> I'm trying to boot an xp pro cd to re-install windows, however GRUB keeps ignoring me when I hit, mash, tap, or type any key to continue booting the cd. This is only with windows cds I might add, knoppix and the ubuntu one work fine.
[07:39] <UbuntuNoob760> ill have a look
[07:39] <nekostar> and that link didnt work Chrasange lol
[07:40] <B_166-ER-X> hm
[07:40] <Chrasange> I know
[07:40] <Chrasange> XD
[07:40] <nekostar> ok we need to get your desktop working here...
[07:40] <nekostar> are you on that computer now?
[07:40] <Chrasange> yes yes
[07:40] <alkem258> anyone?
[07:40] <Chrasange> yeah, I'll be back in a sec, i'm gonna switch pc's
[07:40] <bazhang> alkem258, what does this have to with ubuntu
[07:40] <nekostar> Chrasange
[07:40] <nekostar> install irssi in the computer in question
[07:40] <nekostar> you have 6 consoles
[07:40] <SurenS> bazhang, yep, to recover using the asus recovery partition. and that worked fine. vista was back to the state it was in when i got the laptop. but my second (data) partition was unreadable by windows (but readable by the ubuntu livecd), and reinstalling easybcd refuses to allow me to boot ubuntu :(
[07:40] <nekostar> so you can run that in one and do stuff in the others ;)
[07:41] <nekostar> when you run it format is as follows: irssi <enter>
[07:41] <alkem258> bazhang: grub won't let me boot. I want to get rid of ubunt, or let it run xp.
[07:41] <bazhang> SurenS, easybcd being a windows program?
[07:41] <nekostar> it loads//// /server irc.freenode.net
[07:41] <nekostar> when u connect just /join #ubuntu
[07:41] <bazhang> alkem258, then delete the partition
[07:41] <microwaver> question : how to set ubuntu booting up with num lock enabled ?
[07:41] <alkem258> bazang: how, it won't let me boot the xp pro cd to do that
[07:41] <nekostar> alkem258 put in windows disk, go to recovery, type fixboot
[07:41] <SurenS> bazhang, yes, it modified the vista bootloader and adds an entry that, when selected, runs grub from the (hd0,4) partition and then grub boots me into ubuntu
[07:42] <nekostar> should put the windows boot back in
[07:42] <SurenS> but that no longer works :|
[07:42] <nekostar> assuming you didnt move or wipe out windows
[07:42] <nekostar> vista??
[07:42] <rabelais> alkem258, just change the boot order in your bios
[07:42] <alkem258> nekostar: it won't boot the xp pro cd full stop
[07:42] <UbuntuNoob760> on to my next question....
[07:42] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan, find something ?
[07:42] <nekostar> alkem258 ouch
[07:42] <nekostar> sata cdrom drive?
[07:42] <alkem258> rabelais: it's set so that alll three boot options are cd rom!
[07:42] <UbuntuNoob760> has anyone successfully ran Steam on ubuntu? i know you have to use wine
[07:42] <Kartagis> is glib-2. the same as glibc?
[07:42] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: i'm attempting to get online with the livecd, almost there
[07:42] <bazhang> SurenS, as that is a windows app (no idea bout that) and you chose to use it over grub<---my guess is that is the source of the problems. best prepare for the worst imo
[07:43] <Jalathan> sorry for the wait
[07:43] <UbuntuNoob760> im able to install steam but it freezes when i try to run it
[07:43] <rabelais> alkem258, unplug your hard drive and see if the cd will boot
[07:43] <B_166-ER-X> okk
[07:43] <alkem258> I'm sure it will. but then there's no hdd to install to
[07:43] <SurenS> bazhang, i also get this message  HPFS - NTFS           1019 251  1  9511  14 39  136409088 [VistaOS]
[07:43] <SurenS> Warning: Incorrect number of heads/cylinder 138 (NTFS) != 255 (HD)
[07:43] <SurenS> Warning: Incorrect number of sectors per track 12 (NTFS) != 63 (HD)
[07:43] <UbuntuNoob760> any suggestions?
[07:43] <rabelais> alkem258, humor me
[07:43] <bazhang> alkem258, take windows questions to the appropriate channel
[07:43] <quicksilver_> Hello: Anybody have any clue how to watch the apple keynote using quicktime? http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/0806wdt546x/event/index.html  VLC doesnt give any sound on the playback.
[07:43] <Chrasange> nekostar, I pm'd you
[07:44] <alkem258> bazahng as it is ubuntu's GRUB that is preventing me from doing anything, then i figure this is a ubuntu question
[07:44] <bazhang> SurenS, sorry but this seems to be a vista issue; will help with ubuntu stuff when you get that sorted.
[07:44] <UbuntuNoob760> Anyone know much about mac4lin conversion?
[07:44] <Kartagis> what's the package name if i want to install glib?
[07:44] <SurenS> bazhang, i understand about the issue being with easybcd, i.e. that is what is not leting me boot into ubuntu. but my main issue is with the partitions. that is, there appears to be wrong number of cylinders and the like, which i only know how to fix from ubuntu, not vista.
[07:44] <SurenS> and also, can grub boot into vista?
[07:45] <rabelais> SurenS, yes
[07:45] <SurenS> thanks rabelais
[07:45] <alkem258> ... anyone?
[07:45] <rabelais> alkem258, did you unplug the hard drive like I suggested?
[07:46] <SurenS> so how can i install/reinstall grub?
[07:46] <Flannel> !grub | SurenS
[07:46] <Flannel> SurenS: first link
[07:46] <alkem258> I fail to see what that'll achieve, except show that ubuntu is on my hdd
[07:46] <nekostar> Chrasange first
[07:46] <nekostar> we ask before we pm
[07:46] <quicksilver_> Hello... again. :) Anybody have any clue how to watch the apple keynote using quicktime? http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/0806wdt546x/event/index.html  VLC doesnt give any sound on the playback.
[07:46] <rabelais> alkem258, humor me...
[07:46] <SurenS> Flannel, thanks v much
[07:46] <alkem258> alright
[07:46] <Chrasange> nekostar, oh, sorry I don't know how mibbit works 0.o
[07:46] <nekostar> mibbit?
[07:46] <Chrasange> that is this rightt?
[07:46] <nekostar> this is irc... mibbit is perhaps an application...
[07:47] <Chrasange> oh
[07:47] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: ah, bag it.  this is sortof what i have in both 8.04 and 7.10: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18974/
[07:47] <simi> i tried sudo fdisk -l and i can't see the phone there, this deveice works in XP without any driver so i elive that it has a old standard interface that should work
[07:47] <smrz> anyone out there have a lot of experience using handbrake to rip dvds?
[07:47] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan !??
[07:47] <Jalathan> yes?
[07:48] <B_166-ER-X> i'm not sure to follow
[07:48] <Jalathan> are you using 2.x?
[07:48] <B_166-ER-X> firefox ?
[07:49] <rabelais> simi, fdisk doesn't show phones
[07:49] <Jalathan> yes, sorry
[07:49] <rabelais> simi, try plugging in the phone and running: dmesg|tail
[07:49] <B_166-ER-X> 2.0.0.14
[07:49] <rabelais> that should tell you what's going on with with usb
[07:49] <Jalathan> kk
[07:49] <Jaffarkelshac> i just found out, firefox is out of beta, does anyone know if the crashing on flash sites fixed
[07:50] <gnnarin> ehi people go here and pledge everybody... for firefox....
[07:50] <microwaver> question : how to set ubuntu booting up with num lock enabled ?
[07:50] <SurenS> microwaver, you might wish to try numlockx
[07:50] <kidbuntu> how do i include windows to my boot up
[07:51] <kidbuntu> i have 2 sata harddisk
[07:51] <rabelais> microwaver, google: ubuntu numlock
[07:51] <kidbuntu> 1 is for my ubuntu and the other one is for windows
[07:51]  * Jalathan feels stupid
[07:51] <Jalathan> i was using the 7.04 livecd... <.<;;
[07:51] <kidbuntu> how do i include the windows from the other disk to my grub.menu list
[07:51] <Jalathan> hrm...
[07:52] <kidbuntu> trid editing it but i dont know the correct parameters to use
[07:52] <microwaver> rabelais, thanks. did you ever hear of fluxbuntu?
[07:52] <simi> rabelais: i tried lsusb and what you said :http://pastebin.com/m3f54587d
[07:54] <connor> fluxbuntu?
[07:54] <nekostar> microwaver yeah ive heard of that
[07:54] <connor> like fluxbox?
[07:54] <gnnarin> ehi people go here and pledge everybody... for firefox.... http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord
[07:54] <nekostar> its like ubuntuetc but with flux yeh
[07:54] <rabelais> microwaver, no, but I'm guessing it's fluxbox
[07:54] <bazhang> gnnarin, dont paste that here please
[07:54] <nekostar> i distrod their torrents for a while
[07:55] <rabelais> simi, it looks like linux doesn't like your phone
[07:55] <rabelais> simi, what are you trying to do?
[07:55] <Frogzoo> how to disable the annoying pop sound when gnome displays pop up messages ??
[07:56] <rabelais> simi, can you paste the dmesg|tail -n 50 also?
[07:56] <microwaver> nekostar, rabelais what's the difference between the main distribution adn fluxbuntu?
[07:56] <nekostar> first
[07:56] <nekostar> its not offically supported.. not that that means anything
[07:56] <rabelais> microwaver, probably that it uses fluxbox instead of gnome?
[07:56] <nekostar> its just supposed to be lighter than even xfce [xubuntu]
[07:57] <nekostar> it does use fluxbox............
[07:57] <connor> i get an error when installing a firefox addon
[07:57] <nekostar> and ive used it its decent
[07:57] <alkem258> ok, back. Yes it boots with no harddrive, but that doesn't help me when i want to install it to a harddrive
[07:57] <rabelais> I love fluxbox, I use it on my workstation
[07:57] <alkem258> rabelais: next idea?
[07:57] <rabelais> alkem258, did it boot?
[07:57]  * Jalathan prefers blackbox, even though it's depricated
[07:58] <kidbuntu> how do i edit my source.list
[07:58] <kidbuntu> whats the path
[07:58] <alkem258> rabelais: Yup
[07:58] <alkem258> rabelais: then told me there was no harddrive, which I kinda knew
[07:58] <rabelais> alkem258, plug your hard drive back in, and set only the cd drive as a boot device, and turn off the option to "boot any additional devices"
[07:58] <microwaver> rabelais, stop being so obviously obvious and smart :)
[07:59] <alkem258> rabelais: ok
[07:59] <magnetron> microwaver: sup?
[07:59] <rabelais> microwaver, when you ask an obvious question....
[07:59] <simi> rabelais: http://pastebin.com/m17285c40, i want to upload mp3 to it and i want to upload from kubuntu not from xp
[07:59] <kidbuntu> |sources.list
[07:59] <bazhang> rabelais, alkem258 how about going to a temp channel #rabelais for this windows discussion thanks
[07:59] <microwaver> magnetron, Can I help you dutchy:)
[07:59] <kidbuntu> hey i'm new here
[08:00] <simi> can i try to mount it manualy? how?
[08:00] <dasukips> Another question, does ubuntu come standard with Nautilus?
[08:00] <connor> i cant install my firefox addons, help
[08:00] <microwaver> rabelais, windows related support is blocking my mind :)
[08:00] <kidbuntu> help please
[08:00] <bazhang> kidbuntu, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:00] <kidbuntu> bazhang: can you help me please.. i
[08:00] <lmessenger> connor: which version of firefox do u have?
[08:00] <Ja1athan> ok B_166-ER-X, i'm currently updating FF, and installing the plugin so that you can amend the file
[08:00] <connor> 3
[08:00] <rabelais> chill guys...you don't know that this is necessarily a windows problem...maybe something funky is going on with grub
[08:00] <connor> and 2 wont work either
[08:01] <connor> 3 wont work with the nightly tester tools for my addons =/
[08:01] <bazhang> rabelais, that was a polite suggestion; please heed it.
[08:01] <connor> even though on my previous install they worked
[08:01] <kidbuntu> bazhang: can you help me please.. ive already opened that.. the problem is.. i'm trying to install xmms or beep and other stuffs
[08:01] <Kartagis> when I start the Terminal Server Client, VNC is grayed out. how do I install packages for it?
[08:01] <kidbuntu> bazhang: i cant download any through terminal
[08:01] <B_166-ER-X> ok
[08:02] <connor> kidbuntu: are you using sudo apt-get install?
[08:02] <bazhang> kidbuntu, this is hardy? xmms is no longer around
[08:02] <kidbuntu> connor: yes
[08:02] <connor> hmm
[08:02] <Wolvenhaven> is anyone else having a problem getting laptops to connect to wireless networks if they check the "show password" box?
[08:02] <justme> Wolvenhaven, which wireless card you use?
[08:02] <kidbuntu> bazhang: and what should you recommend.. the last time i used ubuntu was back at 7.04
[08:03] <justme> i got an intel pro wireless 3945 and it works fine
[08:03] <bazhang> kidbuntu, this is hardy?
[08:03] <justme> evenn with show password
[08:03] <justme> even*
[08:03] <rabelais> simi, have you been plugging it and unplugging it from the computer a lot?
[08:03] <Wolvenhaven> justme: i can connect if i type the password in when it shows asterix, but if i click "show password" it just tries to connect and then times out
[08:03] <kidbuntu> bazhang: what about hardy?
[08:03] <[chr0n0s]> hi, where do i display the temperature of the cpu's from /proc/ ?
[08:03] <justme> Wolvenhaven, strang
[08:03] <justme> e
[08:03] <rabelais> simi, or has it just been plugged in constantly?
[08:03] <bazhang> kidbuntu, what version of ubuntu you on now
[08:04] <Wolvenhaven> yea, thats what i was thinking, im running 64bit 8.04-18
[08:04] <justme> i use 32 bit
[08:04] <justme> ^^
[08:04] <rabelais> simi, and by a lot, I mean like....20/30 times
[08:04] <kidbuntu> bazhang: hardy i supposed. 8.04. what is hardy meant for
[08:04] <Wolvenhaven> for some reason 64bit has less bugs on the tx2000z tablet
[08:04] <bazhang> kidbuntu, get audacious as xmms no longer is there
[08:05] <kidbuntu> bazhang.. i'll take your advice.. uhmm how about amarok
[08:05] <justme> Wolvenhaven, well as long as it works with "show password" not checked it is fine, isn't it ?
[08:05] <simi> rabelais: only a few times in kubuntu, i tried moto4lin to connect to it
[08:05] <bazhang> kidbuntu, it will work fine with gnome
[08:05] <Kartagis> when I start the Terminal Server Client, VNC is grayed out. how do I install packages for it?
[08:05] <rabelais> simi, there's a usb fault problem with the device
[08:05] <Wolvenhaven> well it connected to the router, but its not actually getting anything
[08:05] <rabelais> simi, you're getting a million I/O errors on the device
[08:06] <simi> rabelais: should i try again in XP?
[08:06] <Jalathan> Kartagis: do you have the package vnc-common installed?
[08:06] <rabelais> simi, for some reason, it does not want to play nice with the linux usb mass storage module
[08:07] <rabelais> simi, I would recommend yes...I'd be curious to know if windows can make it work...
[08:07] <rabelais> simi, because as it appears here, it looks somewhat broken
[08:07] <Wolvenhaven> justme: its not just that apparently, i cant get outside connections, :(
[08:07] <kajo_> Trying to get USB bluetooth dongle to work. I don't exactly know what to do, but I have these leads: running "bluetooth-aplet" gets this output: Bluetooth OBEX server failed: Bluez DBus interface not available
[08:07] <justme> no wlan connection?
[08:07] <kajo_> Bluetooth FTP server failed: Bluez DBus interface not available ||| And, this- "lsusb"  shows "Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0a5c:2033 Broadcom Corp. BCM2033 Bluetooth", but "hcitool dev" shows nothing.
[08:08] <justme> Wolvenhaven, which wireless card?
[08:08] <Wolvenhaven> i got it connected, and its showing up on the router, but the packets arent coming in
[08:08] <Kartagis> Jalathan: do I need that one?
[08:08] <Wolvenhaven> whats the command to check? lrcps?
[08:08] <Jalathan> Kartagis: it might be your issue
[08:08] <bullgard4> After a restart my bash history in a GNOME terminal prints some entries in the format  cd "`echo -e '\0057home\0057detlef\0057gnome\0057gnome\0055volume\0055manager\0055\0062\0056\0062\0062\0056\0061'`" instead of the format 'cd /home/detlef/gnome/gnome-volume-manager-2.22.1'. Is this a bug or a feature?
[08:08] <justme> bullgard4, bug xD
[08:08] <rabelais> kajo_, have you installed bluez-firmware?
[08:09] <bullgard4> justme: right.
[08:09] <Kartagis> Jalathan: still grayed out
[08:09] <justme> Wolvenhaven, !?
[08:09] <justme> which wlan device ???
[08:09] <Wolvenhaven> i cant remember the command to check
[08:09] <kajo_> rabelais, I haven't heard of that package, nor does aptitude find it.
[08:09] <justme> bullgard4, we aren't Microshit ^^
[08:09] <Wolvenhaven> its lrcps or something close to that
[08:09] <bazhang> justme, no cursing please
[08:09] <justme> we tell it's abug and dont try to sell it as a feature :S
[08:09] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: how did you obtain the mplayer plugin?
[08:09] <justme> bazhang, sry
[08:09] <justme> ;)
[08:10] <justme> Wolvenhaven,
[08:10] <bazhang> Wolvenhaven, lspci
[08:10] <Wolvenhaven> lspci
[08:10] <justme> -.-
[08:10] <justme> ^^
[08:10] <Wolvenhaven> just remembered it lol
[08:10] <Wolvenhaven> sorry
[08:10] <justme> bazhang, one second too fast
[08:10] <justme> :<
[08:10] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: i can't find it in the gutsy repos
[08:10] <Wolvenhaven> broadcom bcm4310 usb controller (rev 01)
[08:10] <igor> Ubuntu been acting up lately...firefox flash stopped working for no reason but worked before,,,now ican't even open up folders
[08:10] <bullgard4> What GNOME mailing list is to be recommended?
[08:10] <justme> oha
[08:10] <justme> usb?
[08:10] <Ja1athan> igor: try using an older kernel version
[08:11] <sauvin> Something installed a proxy or something. Synaptic is broken (talking about "could not connect to localhost:4001"). How to fix this problem, or find the proxy and kill it?
[08:11] <igor> It worked fine all up until now
[08:11] <kajo_> rabelais, I don't see it in sunaptic, either.
[08:11] <kajo_> synaptic*
[08:11] <B_166-ER-X> mozilla-mplayer (version 3.40-5ubuntu5)
[08:11] <igor> I'm using Hardy and have been using it since release
[08:11] <rabelais> kajo_, I got the package name wrong
[08:11] <Wolvenhaven> it has worked in the other kernels(from the forums people have ndiswrappered it) but -17 and -18 got a driver for it
[08:11] <justme> Wolvenhaven,
[08:11] <justme> try this
[08:11] <justme> http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntuusers.de%2FWLAN%2FBroadcom_bcm43xx&hl=de&ie=UTF8&sl=de&tl=en
[08:12] <rabelais> kajo_, I think you just need the bluetooth firmware package, but I don't know what it's called
[08:12] <kajo_> I think I have it, whatever it is. I'll just search for 'bluetooth' in synaptic, I guess.
[08:12] <justme> it's just translated by google but it should be readable if you use your brain^^
[08:12] <rabelais> kajo_, do you have bluez-utils installed?
[08:13] <Petrucci> whats this channel about?
[08:13] <Wolvenhaven> justme: then why would the new update have a driver for it if it doesnt work?
[08:14] <magnetron> Petrucci: it's a support channel for the Ubuntu linux distribution
[08:14] <justme> Wolvenhaven, dont ask me
[08:14] <Petrucci> i want a channel for PC overclocking
[08:14] <Petrucci> any on this server?
[08:14] <justme> I am not involved in it anyway
[08:14] <magnetron> Petrucci: #hardware
[08:14] <bullgard4> Petrucci:  Topic for #ubuntu: Official Ubuntu Support Channel
[08:14] <garrett__> Anyone know what characters these are? F����h R����u����
[08:14] <Wolvenhaven> hehe, iwconfig shows eth1 as connected
[08:14] <garrett__> it appears to be a "?" inside of a diamond.
[08:14] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan i thought mplayer-plugin was the same thing then mozilla-mplayer
[08:15] <garrett__> unicode?
[08:15] <Petrucci> anyone know any MIRC servers specifically rellated to computer overclocking and computer guru's?
[08:15] <justme> Wolvenhaven, try the thingie with ndiswrapper
[08:15] <Ja1athan> B_166-ER-X: my gutsy repos aren
[08:15] <Insurrecto> hello
[08:15] <Manacim> petrucci
[08:15] <Manacim> try guessing keywords
[08:15] <Manacim> like
[08:15] <Ja1athan> n't showing even mplayer
[08:15] <Manacim> hardware
[08:15] <FloodBot1> Manacim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:15] <Manacim> or computer
[08:15] <kajo_> rabelais, yes, I have bluez utils.
[08:15] <Petrucci> manacim i joined hardware
[08:15] <Insurrecto> any1 knows everytime i burn linux it gives me md5 hash checking error and wont read cd?
[08:16] <Wolvenhaven> justme: i found the problem, it installed two wireless drivers and is trying to use both of them, im going to turn one off and reboot the laptop and try that
[08:16] <bullgard4> garrett__: I guess you will need another character encoding scheme. May be you need UTF-8.
[08:16] <kajo_> Sorry I took so long, aptitude keeps trying to downgrade something, and it finally did on accident, which honestly has me a bit pissed (stray keystroke on an unwanted warning)
[08:16] <justme> Wolvenhaven, ^^
[08:16] <Manacim> no help?
[08:16] <Ja1athan> Insurrecto: you might want to check the iso itself
[08:16] <Insurrecto> how can i know the correct md5?
[08:16] <rabelais> kajo_, do this: "updatedb" and then "locate BCM2033"
[08:17] <garrett__> bullgard4: it's popping up in some tcl (tcl8.5, which supports unicode..) so i'm just confused as to where it's coming from.
[08:17] <garrett__> bullgard4: but i'm having a rough time figuring that bit out :P
[08:17] <Ja1athan> B_166-ER-X: i forgot to check the multiverse, sry
[08:17] <kajo_> rabelais, the second line does nothing.
[08:17] <kajo_> Just brings me a new prompt.
[08:18] <rabelais> kajo_, apologies...you need to do these all in one prompt
[08:18] <rabelais> kajo_, you have to wait until the first one is done
[08:18] <rabelais> kajo_, and you have to do the first one with sudo:  sudo updatedb
[08:18] <kajo_> kajo@littleboy:~/Pictures$ sudo updatedb locate BCM2033
[08:18] <kajo_> updatedb: unexpected operand on command line
[08:19] <garrett__> er--there we go--0x8D.. which is dingbats? wtf. :|
[08:19] <kajo_> @ rabelais
[08:19] <Ja1athan> Insurrecto: here are the hashes :http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.10/release/MD5SUMS
[08:19] <Ja1athan> B_166-ER-X: am installing it
[08:19] <bullgard4> garrett__: I believe that the program (tcl?) which produced the string is okay but your program which reads it does display it wrongly due to a wrong decoding scheme.
[08:19] <Ja1athan> Insurrecto: one min here for the howto
[08:20] <garrett__> bullgard4: good point.  i'll try a different viewer.
[08:20] <rabelais> kajo_, they are two commands
[08:20] <rabelais> kajo_, sudo updatedb
[08:20] <Ja1athan> Insurrecto: wait, got the wrong one
[08:20] <kajo_> then how do I run them on one line??
[08:20] <rabelais> kajo_, and when that is done, do locate BCM2033
[08:20] <rabelais> kajo_, you don't run them on one line
[08:20] <rabelais> kajo_, or, if you insist on running them in one line, you can put a semicolon in between updatedb and locate
[08:20] <kajo_> rabelais, isn't that what you just told me to do? I ran them seperately before, and the second one did nothing...
[08:21] <simi> rabelais: in XP my phone works
[08:21] <kajo_> you said all in one prompt, to me that means all in one line. I did them all in the same window, if that's what you mean. I ran one, and then the other.
[08:21] <rabelais> kajo_, apologies, I must have misunderstood, did updatedb complete before you ran locate?
[08:21] <kane77> why there are so many updates lately?
[08:21] <kajo_> rabelais, yes.
[08:21] <B_166-ER-X> jalathan i REALLY have to go to sleep. sun is close...  but i'll be back , i want to finish this !
[08:22] <B_166-ER-X> thankx for all
[08:22] <rabelais> simi, are you plugging the phone directly into the computer? or through a usb hub or some sort?
[08:22] <rabelais> kajo_, ok, then you are missing the BCM firmware for that device
[08:22] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: sorry, i'm heading off to bed soon myself
[08:22] <simi> rabelais: directly, in the usb port
[08:22] <kajo_> rabelais, I have never heard of "BCM", don't know what you mean. Is that easily remedied? Can I just get that with aptitude?
[08:22] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: do you have a forum id?
[08:23] <garrett__> bullgard4: newp.  using a unicode-supported client, but at least now I get "?"
[08:23] <Jalathan> you can pm it
[08:23] <Jck_true> How do i update the locate database?
[08:23] <rabelais> kajo_, I believe you can get them from the bluez website...BCM is broadcom, you need firmware files to get this to work
[08:23] <rabelais> simi, are there any other usb ports you can try putting them into?
[08:23] <simi> rabelais:  can be manualy be mounted? i belive that the fash card has bad sectors
[08:23] <kajo_> rabelais, what do I need firmware files for? Shouldn't the firmware already be on the bluetooth dongle itself?
[08:24] <legend2440> Jck_true: sudo updatedb
[08:24] <rabelais> simi, if it is detected by your system...it can be, at the moment it appears that it cannot be mounted because linux is not detecting the device properly
[08:24] <Jck_true> legend2440: Need to write that down... Can't remember it
[08:25] <rabelais> kajo_, broadcom bluetooth devices require firmware files to be loaded at every use
[08:25] <simi> rabelais: ausb shows this:Bus 002 Device 002: ID 22b8:4810 Motorola PCS Triplet GSM Phone (storage)
[08:25] <kajo_> rabelais, are you sure my device is a broadcom device? I don't understand exactly what the problem is, or how this architecture works.
[08:26] <bullgard4> garrett__: My GNOME terminal in the past displayed a similar output as yours when my GNOME terminal was set to wrong character decoding scheme instead of the correct UTF-8 decoding scheme.
[08:26] <rabelais> simi, yes...this is true, but the dmesg output shows that the device is not being detected as a usb mass storage device properly, I do not know why that is happening
[08:27] <rabelais> kajo_, you said you had a BCM2033 bluetooth device, if that is the case, then it is a broadcom device
[08:27] <haffe> Hi. Could somebody help me with this problem? I'm trying to get RTC alarm to work. However, It doesn't seem like /sys/class/rtc exists. Is xubuntu 8.04 compiled without support for realtime clock?
[08:27] <rabelais> kajo_, download http://bluez.sf.net/download/bluez-firmware-1.2.tar.gz
[08:27] <kajo_> rabelais, ah. I did not understand my own output, I was just trying various troubleshooting things without knowing what I was doing.
[08:27] <simi> rabelais: if the memory card has bad sectors can explain this?
[08:27] <rabelais> kajo_, and extract the files (ending with .hex .bin, etc) into the /lib/firmware directory
[08:27] <kajo_> what is the command to download a web adress?
[08:28] <rabelais> kajo, wget
[08:28] <kajo_> rabelais, thanks
[08:28] <rabelais> simi, no, bad sectors wouldn't cause this to break at the hardware level
[08:28] <speedRS> Hi. I'm currently having difficulties setting up rDNS using bind9 on ubuntu 8.04. I can post required zone files etc on request.
[08:28] <garrett__> bullgard4: gnometerm's set to utf-8 :\
[08:29] <rabelais> simi, I have had problems like this before, but they are usually a result of a bad usb hub sitting in between me and the computer, or a very poor card reader, or something like that
[08:29] <simi> rabelais: who made the program that connects to the device , maybe is a bug and i should tell them, in windows it works and XP is 7 years old
[08:29] <speedRS> "zone XXX.XXX.XX.in-addr.arpa/IN: loading from master file /etc/bind/zones/rev.XXX.XXX.XX.in-addr.arpa failed: unexpected end of input" is the current error I am receiving.
[08:30] <rabelais> simi, it is possible that it just won't work in linux...there are some usb mass storage devices that aren't written to protocol properly and only run in windows
[08:31] <rabelais> simi, you can report it to the maintainers of the usb-uhci and usb mass storage modules...I don't know exactly where the problem lies among those two, I'd guess usb mass storage
[08:31] <bullgard4> garrett__: I cannot help you specifically. My general advice would be to investigate if the programs interface with the correct encoding/decoding schemes.
[08:31] <kajo_> rabelais, so all I had to do was extract the .bin & .hex to /lib/firmware, right?
[08:32] <simi> rabelais: no, some people succed to connect to this device using moto4lin, but it do not worked for me
[08:32] <simi> rabelais: thx
[08:32] <garrett__> bullgard4: just found this "It follows from this that bytes in UTF-8 encoding fall in distinct ranges:" "80..BF - non-initial bytes of multibyte code
[08:32] <garrett__> "
[08:32] <garrett__> bullgard4: the questionmark in a diamond falls in that range
[08:32] <rabelais> simi, I would suggest you ask the moto4lin people, sometimes different distributions have weird problems with hotplug/loading modules etc....
[08:33] <garrett__> bullgard4: so i think you're right; there's some weirdness going on in this tcl which is generating characters outside of utf-8 maybe
[08:33] <rabelais> simi, chances are it can actually work, but I don't know what the proper tweaks would be to make it work
[08:33] <rabelais> kajo_, yes, I believe so...I didn't look to see if there were any other files that needed to be there, but I think those are the only ones you need
[08:34] <kajo_> rabelais, so now what?
[08:34] <garrett__> bullgard4: er--disregard.  my font made that look like "fail" not "fall" :| *sheepishly goes back to screwing with is termtype*
[08:34] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: ok, i pastebin'ed the the basic version of the dat file (@ ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat): http://paste.ubuntu.com/18977/ | here's my current 3.x version: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18974/ |
[08:34] <JoshGr> my computer freezes semi-regularly and the only way I can get out of it is alt-sysreq-rseiub, because nothing else does anything at all, the cursor moves around but absolutely nothing can be clicked on, does anyone know what might be causing it?
[08:34] <garrett__> bullgard4: thanks for your advice, though
[08:34] <bullgard4> garrett__: So I wish you good luck to find another person more knowledgeable to help you in this specific respect.
[08:34] <rabelais> kajo_, it's a usb bluetooth device, yes?
[08:35] <kajo_> rabelais, yes.
[08:35] <simi> rabelais: thx for your time
[08:35] <rabelais> kajo_, unplug and plug it back in, and cross your fingers
[08:35] <rabelais> simi, you're welcome, good luck
[08:35] <Jalathan> B_166-ER-X: i'd recommend making a copy of the original file before messing around with the updated version
[08:37] <bullgard4> System > Einstellungen > Audio (Audio-Einstellungen) (Klangereignisse) > Audiowiedergabe:ALSA): Wenn ich 'Test' klicke, erhalte ich die Fehlermeldung "audiotestsrc wave=sine ... Could not open audio device for playback. Device is being used by another application. But I did not open another sound application. How to troubleshoot?
[08:37] <kajo_> rabelais, still not working, here is what dmesg says (it seems significant, but I can't understand it.) http://bluez.sf.net/download/bluez-firmware-1.2.tar.gz
[08:37] <kajo_> [1823804.954012] usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
[08:37] <kajo_> [1823805.099911] usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:37] <kajo_> [1823805.116482] bcm203x_probe: Mini driver request failed
[08:37] <kajo_> [1823805.116492] bcm203x: probe of 4-1:1.0 failed with error -5
[08:37] <FloodBot1> kajo_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:37] <kajo_> sorry floodbot.
[08:37] <kajo_> ;P
[08:37] <kajo_> (I accidentally pasted that URL, don't acknowledge that)
[08:38] <rabelais> kajo_, modprobe -r bcm203x
[08:38] <rabelais> kajo_, sudo modprobe -r bcm203x
[08:38] <kajo_> rabelais, done.
[08:38] <Dark_Shadow> hi
[08:38] <rabelais> kajo_, sudo modprobe bcm203x
[08:39] <kajo_> rabelais, done.
[08:39] <Dark_Shadow> i installed the plugins for firefox to run the youtube vidz
[08:39] <kajo_> :?
[08:39] <rabelais> kajo_, and then look at the dmesg|tail -n 30 again (pastebin)
[08:39] <Dark_Shadow> but it doesn't work
[08:39] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: did you install the flashplugin-nonfree package?
[08:40] <Dark_Shadow> yeah
[08:40] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: now you should remove the gnash package and restart firefox.
[08:41] <kajo_> rabelais, http://paste.ubuntu.com/18979/
[08:41] <Juventino> guys, i just installed Kubuntu on my laptop, any idea if the SATA HDD killer bug still exists in it??
[08:41] <Dark_Shadow> how to remove it?
[08:41] <\kG> where would one go for help with wubi?
[08:41] <Andreus> OK, newb question here now that things are basically functional
[08:42] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: what did you use to install flashplugin-nonfree -- synaptic?
[08:42] <Andreus> How do I open files and directories in Nautilus as root?
[08:42] <Dark_Shadow> no
[08:42] <Andreus> I can't seem to find a sudo function for the file browser, which is irritating because icecast2 has somehow put /etc/icecast2/ as inaccessible.
[08:42] <rabelais> kajo_, and it still doesn't work?
[08:42] <soundray> Andreus: you start a root instance of nautilus with 'sudo gksudo nautilus'?
[08:42] <enos> Hmm... anyone here setup ubuntu 8 with laptop and external lcd?
[08:42] <Dark_Shadow> i installed flash from firefox
[08:42] <soundray> Andreus: sorry, I meant gksudo nautilus
[08:42] <enos> My desktop is extremely bright. Any way to adj this?
[08:43] <Andreus> sudo gksudo nautilus did nothing
[08:43] <Andreus> It just went back to the prompt
[08:43] <Juventino> How can i check the shutdown logs in ubuntu????
[08:43] <soundray> Andreus: sorry, I meant gksudo nautilus
[08:43] <kajo_> rabelais, simply- I go to "Applications- Accessories- Bluetooth Sharing".
[08:43] <kajo_> This starts an application that I assume makes it 'detectable', because it has no other gui that I can find.
[08:43] <kajo_> And yet,
[08:43] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: on a command line, type 'sudo apt-get --purge remove gnash'
[08:43] <kajo_> I still can't find it with my cell phone. There are no bluetooth devices found.
[08:44] <rabelais> kajo_, does hciconfig show anything?
[08:44] <kajo_> rabelais, nope.
[08:44] <Dark_Shadow> done soundray
[08:44] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: restart firefox
[08:45] <Dark_Shadow> done
[08:46] <ChrisC36> how can I test my drive for errors?
[08:46] <ChrisC36> or to see its working right
[08:46] <ChrisC36> its hanging at install at format partition step
[08:46] <enos> My desktop is extremely bright. Any way to adj this? (my lcd is not correct on the "screen resolution" application)
[08:47] <soundray> ChrisC36: for how long?
[08:47] <ChrisC36> more than half an hour
[08:47] <sherl0ck> ChrisC36: smartctl
[08:47] <ChrisC36> using mythbuntu livecd installer
[08:47] <praz> can someone help me with the install of ubuntu on a mac book?
[08:47] <Dark_Shadow> soundray, what to do now?
[08:47] <praz> pm if possible
[08:47] <sherl0ck> praz: tootally
[08:47] <soundray> ChrisC36: how much RAM do you have?
[08:48] <nickolaus> How do I log into root access over all of kubuntu?
[08:48] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: why, test if it has worked, of course
[08:48] <sherl0ck> nickolaus: sudo -i
[08:48] <Dark_Shadow> it doesn't work
[08:48] <Dark_Shadow> :/
[08:48] <nickolaus> thank you
[08:48] <NullName> I have a completely messed up SAMBA installation.  I can't get other windows boxes to successfully access my shared folders.  SAMBA is running as a service, and the ports are correctly open through the firewall.  The problem started when I messed with the shared folders user names.  I then deleted the SAMBA configuration directory and files, and couldn't reinstall samba without an error.  I recently had a new update, which added new configuration files.
[08:48] <rabelais> kajo_, last idea... sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop
[08:48] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: enter 'about:plugins' as the URL and copy and paste the page that's shown to http://paste.ubuntu.com please
[08:48] <Jalathan> NullName: did you purge the samba installation?
[08:49] <kajo_> rabelais, did it- just stop it? What good is that?
[08:49] <NullName> Jalathan: No I Messed up and deleted instead
[08:49] <nickolaus> sherl0ck does this give me total root access in the gui or just in terminal?
[08:49] <rabelais> kajo_, sudo modprobe -r bcm203x
[08:49] <NullName> An  ubuntu update added new config files
[08:49] <ChrisC36> soundray 1 gig
[08:49] <rabelais> kajo_, unplug the device
[08:49] <sherl0ck> terminal, then launch what u need from there
[08:49] <Jalathan> NullName: kk, purging will remove all of the configuration files
[08:49] <soundray> ChrisC36: is it hanging in this state right now?
[08:50] <rabelais> kajo_, sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
[08:50] <Jalathan> NullName: one min here
[08:50] <ChrisC36> no i rebooted
[08:50] <rabelais> kajo_, modprobe bcm203x
[08:50] <rabelais> kajo_, plug it back in
[08:50] <Dark_Shadow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18980/ soundray
[08:50] <soundray> ChrisC36: are you chatting from the same machine?
[08:50] <rabelais> kajo_, pastebin the dmesg|tail -n 50
[08:50] <ChrisC36> soundray no my laptop
[08:50] <ChrisC36> i'm back at the mythbuntu live cd screen
[08:50] <nickolaus> sherl0ck I have a file open that I need root to edit is there a way to get root without closing it? I have put alot of work into it.
[08:50] <NullName> Jalathan:  I see...so maybe I should purge, and try retry?
[08:50] <ChrisC36> i had to install smartctl
[08:51] <Flannel> nickolaus: just re-open it with root, and then copy it over
[08:51] <Jalathan> NullName: correct
[08:51] <NullName> Jalathan: Do you know the correct purge command?
[08:51] <ChrisC36> if it installed, does that mean it successfully used the HD? or is it using a ram drive or something
[08:51] <kajo_> rabelais, it still ends with "probe of 4-2:1.0 failed with error -5"
[08:51] <kajo_> still want it?
[08:51] <Flannel> nickolaus: kdesu kate /path/to/file and then just copy/paste
[08:51] <sherl0ck> nickolaus: what editor is it open in
[08:52] <soundray> ChrisC36: it's using a RAM disk. Did you install the smartmontools package?
[08:52] <sherl0ck> or save elsewhere were u have permission and chmod later
[08:52] <ChrisC36> soundray  yes
[08:52] <nickolaus> sherl0ck Kate
[08:52] <rabelais> kajo_, no...I'm out of ideas
[08:52] <Jalathan> NullName: do you remember the name of the packages installed? i'm afraid that i've not spent too much time with samba
[08:52] <sherl0ck> do a save as in home directory
[08:52] <rabelais> kajo_, something's not happy in the bluez land....but I don't know what it is
[08:52] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: it looks good. What do you see when you open Flash videos now?
[08:52] <Jalathan> NullName: nm
[08:52] <sherl0ck> then later sudo chown root:root file
[08:52] <NullName>  Jalathan:  I don't I installed SAMBA as a service through synaptic
[08:53] <sherl0ck> sudo mv file /foo/foo/file
[08:53] <ChrisC36> i'm not sure what option to use for smartctl
[08:53] <Andreus> Now the XML won't parse!
[08:53] <soundray> ChrisC36: sherl0ck, can you help with smartctl?
[08:53] <sherl0ck> ChrisC36: man smartctl, or there are guides out there
[08:53] <Dark_Shadow> we're sorry this video is no longer avaible
[08:54] <Dark_Shadow> available*
[08:54] <sherl0ck> soundray: it has a basic test but i cant remember the syntax
[08:54] <kajo_> rabelais, this is rather depressing. I have no other way to get pictures on to my computer other than via bluetooth. I need the pics ASAP. *sigh*
[08:54] <kajo_> maybe I'll try plugging it into my laptop.
[08:54] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: now take a second to think about what that message means. Are you *sure* that it means your flash plugin isn't working?
[08:54] <kajo_> hope it's an individual computer/install problem.
[08:54] <Nave_> is it easy to install ubuntu on a macbook?
[08:54] <rabelais> kajo_, good luck
[08:54] <kajo_> soundray, haha.
[08:55] <sherl0ck> Nave: very, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[08:55] <nickolaus> how do I open and view folder/files in terminal?
[08:55] <Dark_Shadow> i don't know
[08:55] <Jalathan> NullName: try this 'sudo apt-get purge samba-common'
[08:55] <Dark_Shadow> but i tested too many vidz
[08:55] <Nave_> cool
[08:56] <NullName> Jalathan: Thanks.  I will try it.
[08:56] <cpk1> nickolaus: you can browse directories using cd  opening files... well it depends on the file
[08:57] <soundray> nickolaus: try 'gnome-open filename'
[08:57] <nullie> hello
[08:57] <Dark_Shadow> http://pop.youtube.com/watch?v=EXF4zWClv6k <-----this works on ur pc ?
[08:57] <nullie> how can I install older version of package?
[08:58] <soundray> !cli | nickolaus, this may be useful for you
[08:58] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: yes
[08:58] <ChrisC36> it cant find /dev/hda
[08:58] <ChrisC36> how do I find out the location fo my drive ?
[08:58] <Dark_Shadow> for me no
[08:58] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: remove the flash plugin with firefox and run 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree', then restart firefox and test again
[08:59] <soundray> ChrisC36: probably /dev/sda (check with sudo fdisk -l)
[08:59] <Dark_Shadow> how to remove the plagin from firefox?
[08:59] <Jalathan> NullName: any problems?
[08:59] <soundray> ChrisC36: be careful, you want to make sure the test is non-destructive ;)
[08:59] <Nave_> when i installed this ubuntu on my IBM it worked fine i didn't have to look for drivers
[09:00] <ChrisC36> soundray the drive is new, there is nothing on it yet
[09:00] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: Tools-Addons -- there are options for removing plugins there.
[09:00] <soundray> ChrisC36: that's fine then
[09:01] <JuzzyD> Perinaise for dinner
[09:01] <soundray> ChrisC36: although I don't believe that your drive is the problem
[09:01] <NullName> Jalathan:  It deleted SAMBA...I'm reinstalling..I'll let you know what happens. THANKS
[09:01] <Jalathan> NullName: np
[09:01] <sparky_> "This version of "VMware Player" is incompatible with this operating system.  Please install the "x86_64" version of this program instead."  How do I know which version I have installed currently?
[09:01] <ac3> How can my bash script access gnome-keyring-manager for a certain password? I have a script that promps for a password which is different from my gnome login password, so i want this to be stored in the login keyring which is unlocked after successfull login.
[09:01] <pvanhoof> I have an intel based sound card in my sony vaio vgnn21e laptop, when I start my laptop in gdb the welcome sounds repeat themselves in short intervals for around 20 times
[09:01] <Dark_Shadow> can't find anythih about plugins
[09:02] <sparky_> And do I need to install the 86 of the 64? o.O
[09:02] <pvanhoof> in the desktop pulseaudio nor eds can play music, applications that attempt to play music hang
[09:02] <Dark_Shadow> extensions themes languages
[09:02] <pvanhoof> I already tried these in modprobe.d/alsa-base:
[09:02] <Dark_Shadow> that's all
[09:02] <pvanhoof> #options snd-hda-intel model=hippo
[09:02] <pvanhoof> #options snd-hda-intel enable=1 index=0 model=benq
[09:02] <pvanhoof> And a bunch of other options that I have found on the web
[09:02] <pvanhoof> The sound-card has always worked on all previous versions of ubuntu
[09:03] <pvanhoof> Is this a known bug, and how can I fix this?
[09:03] <Jalathan> sparky_: are you running a 64bit version of ubuntu?
[09:03] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: are you on 8.04 with firefox v. 3?
[09:03] <Dark_Shadow> i'm on 7.10
[09:03] <sparky_> Jalathan, that the thing, I'm not sure.  Is there a way to check?
[09:03] <Dark_Shadow> with mozilla 2.0.0.14
[09:04] <Dark_Shadow> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080418 Ubuntu/7.10 (gutsy) Firefox/2.0.0.14
[09:04] <ChrisC36> soundray I see several 'invalid SMART checksum' errors when checking sda1
[09:04] <bakarat> is there a way to print an _entire_ site to pdf? (so not just one page, but also all the pages it links to on the same server)
[09:04] <soundray> ChrisC36: brand new drive?
[09:05] <Jalathan> sparky_: 'uname -a
[09:05] <Jalathan> '
[09:05] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: in terminal, do a 'sudo updatedb' (this will run for a few minutes)
[09:05] <eviltim> hello!
[09:05] <sparky_> inux Mystic 2.6.24-18-generic #1 SMP Wed May 28 19:28:38 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:05] <eviltim> I tried to install ubuntu yesterday,but my disc was faulty
[09:05] <sparky_> I'm not sure what the x86_64 means :/
[09:06] <eviltim> I'm currently downloading it again
[09:06] <eviltim> XD
[09:06] <nvc> eviltim; download it again
[09:06] <eviltim> 12 percent
[09:06] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: when it's done, do a 'locate libflashplayer.so' and pastebin the output (if it's only one line, you can paste it here)
[09:06] <nvc> scrap that, download xubuntu instead of the regular one
[09:06] <ChrisC36> soundray yes its new, but it was dropped 2.5 feet to carpeted floor by my son
[09:06] <nvc> it's much faster and nicer
[09:06] <eviltim> damn my 100 kbs connection
[09:06] <speedRS> Hi. Could someone help me with this issue regarding reverse DNS using bind9 http://paste.ubuntu.com/18982/
[09:06] <Dark_Shadow> root@ubuntu:/home/darkus# sudo updatedb
[09:06] <Dark_Shadow> root@ubuntu:/home/darkus#
[09:06] <Dark_Shadow> nothing happened
[09:06] <ChrisC36> soundray should i try to format it?
[09:07] <Jalathan> sparky_: i386 = 32bit | x86_64 = 64bit
[09:07] <soundray> ChrisC36: that might have been enough to cause this trouble...
[09:07] <sparky_> Ah ok, thank you
[09:07] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: nothing was supposed to happen. Now  do the next step
[09:07] <Jalathan> sparky_: you need to download & install the 64bit version it seems like
[09:07] <Jalathan> & np
[09:07] <sparky_> Yup yup, that was the case.  Thank you :D
[09:07] <Dark_Shadow> root@ubuntu:/home/darkus# locate libflashplayer.so
[09:07] <Dark_Shadow> /home/darkus/install_flash_player_9_linux/libflashplayer.so
[09:07] <Dark_Shadow> /home/darkus/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[09:07] <anirudh0> Dark_Shadow, returned immediately or after sometime?
[09:07] <eviltim> I subuntu better than vista/
[09:07] <eviltim> I'm dual-booting
[09:07] <Dark_Shadow> after sometimes
[09:08] <sparky_> By the way, is there anywhere I can check which would be suggested for a machine with my specs?
[09:08] <eviltim> or at least I hope to
[09:08] <ChrisC36> soundray can i format it?
[09:08] <nforce> sparky_, if you tell us your specs we could recommend you one
[09:08] <Jalathan> sparky_: could you please elaborate?
[09:08] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: do a 'rm /home/darkus/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so ; sudo apt-get  install flashplugin-nonfree', then restart firefox
[09:08] <Jalathan> sparky_: one min here
[09:08] <anirudh0> Dark_Shadow, thats what its supposed to do :)
[09:08] <net> i want ti install rocket dock in linux
[09:08] <Zeit|awy_> speedRS: sounds like an error in zone file, check syntax
[09:09] <soundray> ChrisC36: do  you mean a low level format?
[09:09] <soundray> ChrisC36: I think your installation was formatting when you hit that snag
[09:09] <FeelWork> Somebody know if their is a list with the large enterprise names who use ubuntu server ?
[09:09] <Dark_Shadow> it said that it can't find this package on drive E
[09:09] <Dark_Shadow> :/
[09:09] <sparky_> nforce: NVIDIA GeForce Go 7150M graphics card, 3 gigs of RAM, 130 gig HDD, but split in half due to a dual partition
[09:09] <huff3r> does ubuntu dual boot behind vista as easily as it does with xp?
[09:09] <eviltim> Is ubuntu better than vista?
[09:10] <sparky_> 2 GHz
[09:10] <nforce> sparky_, well I guess ubuntu or Kubuntu would be well suited for you
[09:10] <sparky_> evand, I would certainly say so
[09:10] <nforce> ^^
[09:10] <soundray> eviltim: please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:10] <sparky_> nforce, I'm just not sure if I should go with the 32 or the 64 bit
[09:10] <eviltim> ok
[09:10] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: drive E? That's not ubuntu
[09:10] <nforce> hmm
[09:10] <net> i want to install rocket dock in ubuntu hardy
[09:10] <JuzzyD> eviltim: Only for stability, resource use, and usability
[09:10] <sparky_> Especially with a lousy graphics card like that
[09:10] <speedRS> Zeit|awy: This is the current zone file. Anything look wrong at first glance? http://paste.ubuntu.com/18985/
[09:10] <nforce> sparky_, which processor model do you own?
[09:10] <Dark_Shadow> wait
[09:10] <JuzzyD> Apart from that Vista does ok.
[09:10] <Brad7200> HEY GUYS IM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH COUNTER-STRIKE SOURCE.. MY FPS ARE VERY LOW
[09:10] <eviltim> My processor is 2 gigahertz,will it run it?
[09:11] <sparky_> Not too sure, only bought this thing two days ago
[09:11] <ChrisC36> soundray is there no place to see an error log for when that happened?
[09:11] <nforce> eviltim, which processor?
[09:11] <net> nforce : i want to install rocket dock in ubuntu hardy
[09:11] <eviltim> and 2 gigs of ram
[09:11] <nforce> I need the name
[09:11] <Jalathan> !wine
[09:11] <sparky_> How would I check it on Ubuntu? :/
[09:11] <eviltim> pentium dual-core
[09:11] <nforce> hmm
[09:11] <soundray> ChrisC36: there is, probably
[09:11] <speedRS> Zeit|awy_: This is the current zone file. Anything look wrong at first glance? http://paste.ubuntu.com/18985/
[09:11] <Jalathan> Brad7200: look over at ##winhq
[09:11] <VSpike> If i need to make a chroot, how can I include part of an external file system in it?
[09:11] <Dark_Shadow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18986/
[09:11] <Jalathan> *winehq
[09:11] <Dark_Shadow> it's in french
[09:11] <nforce> just try x64, eviltim
[09:11] <Dark_Shadow> ;/
[09:12] <nforce> net, rocket dock? another windows program?
[09:12] <VSpike> I'm trying to rebuild my /boot partition, and I need to chroot and do dpkg --reinstall but I'm getting errors because networking is not working
[09:12] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: you're starting the installer from a live CD, correct?
[09:12] <remoteCTRL> ﻿i need a wireless presenter that works on ubuntu...?
[09:12] <nforce> !wine | net
[09:12] <Dark_Shadow> no
[09:12] <eviltim> my processor is 32 bit
[09:12] <remoteCTRL> !presenter
[09:12] <VSpike> I think I need to include /var from the liveCD system in the chroot
[09:12] <soundray> ChrisC36: you're starting the installer from a live CD, correct?
[09:12] <nforce> eviltim, so you need 32 bit
[09:12] <sparky_> nforce, how do I check the processor?
[09:12] <VSpike> oh wait that wouldnt work
[09:12] <Dark_Shadow> ubuntu is installed on my labtop
[09:12] <eviltim> yes,thats what im downkloading
[09:12] <nforce> wait a sec
[09:12] <sparky_> Will do ;)\
[09:13] <eviltim> tried to install it yesterday
[09:13] <NullName> Jalathan:  It worked!!!!! THANKS!
[09:13] <nforce> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[09:13] <eviltim> but my cd was scratched
[09:13] <Jalathan> NullName: np
[09:13] <remoteCTRL> !hcl
[09:13] <Jalathan> !qemu
[09:13] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: please pastebin the original French message
[09:13] <ChrisC36> soundray from teh mythbuntu live cd, yes
[09:13] <remoteCTRL> ubotu??
[09:13] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: not here, please
[09:13] <darth> nforce, amd64 works fine
[09:14] <Dark_Shadow> Dark_Shadow> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18986/
[09:14] <Jalathan> remoteCTRL: looks like we about borked ubottu
[09:14] <nforce> darth, dont tell me
[09:14] <nforce> ;)
[09:14] <nforce> tell sparky_
[09:14] <Zeit|awy_> speedRS: your minimum is smaller than your refresh, but not sure if this will give and error
[09:14] <net> nforce : i want a dock like that for ubuntu
[09:14] <darth> running it on quad@3ghz+6GB ram.... insane
[09:14] <soundray> ChrisC36: instead of clicking on the installer icon, you can open a terminal and run 'gksudo ubiquity -debug' (or it might be --debug). Then you can follow any messages it generates while installing.
[09:14] <simplechat_> heyyas, i'm wondering how i'd change the current video driver
[09:14] <sparky_> Wait, what is it that I should know? o.O
[09:14] <simplechat_> from fg* to vesa (or what 7.04 uses)
[09:15] <simplechat_> thats dpkg something xorg ?
[09:15] <simplechat_> or something like that?
[09:15] <Dark_Shadow> soundray, should i install http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[09:15] <Dark_Shadow> ?
[09:15] <bayar> hello Dark_Shadow
[09:15] <darth> sparky_, that amd64 runs fine
[09:15] <remoteCTRL> Jalathan: ON YOUR KNEES UBOTTU :d
[09:15] <Dark_Shadow> hi bayar
[09:15] <anirudh0> Dark_Shadow, more sensible to use the repos
[09:15] <anirudh0> !medibuntu > Dark_Shadow
[09:15] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: no
[09:15] <remoteCTRL> anyone ever used a presenter with linux?
[09:16] <sparky_> Ah ok, well thank you then ;)
[09:16] <nforce> net
[09:16] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: you need to enable the multiverse repository
[09:16] <nforce> three alternatives
[09:16] <nforce> Avant Window Navigator
[09:16] <nforce> and
[09:16] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: System-Administration-Software Sources
[09:16] <nforce> ksmoothdock
[09:16] <nforce> and kooldock
[09:16] <nforce> ;)
[09:16] <net> nforce wat
[09:16] <nforce> net, some alternatives
[09:16] <nforce> for rocketdock
[09:16] <nforce> (on linux ofc
[09:16] <speedRS> Zeit|awy_: Really? Refresh, being the last in the list, is bigger than the second one after the serial... unless I'm missing something.
[09:16] <nforce> )
[09:16] <bazhang> !enter | nforce
[09:17] <anirudh0> remoteCTRL, what do you mean by "presenter?
[09:17] <nforce> Avant Window manager, ksmoothdock and kooldock
[09:17] <Jalathan> *projector?
[09:17] <Guillem_> OK, i finally chose the wrong option when firefox-3 asks for which profile to use (old firefox-2 or new firefox-3). How can I restore the desired profile or at least the question?
[09:17] <net> nforce ya....i need for application launchers,,,not like mac..
[09:18] <ChrisC36> cool - how did you find that command|?
[09:18] <net> nforce ,not like mac dock
[09:18] <Dark_Shadow> soundray, done
[09:18] <nforce> hmm
[09:18] <soundray> ChrisC36: me?
[09:18] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: now try 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' again
[09:19] <Dark_Shadow> yeah it works
[09:19] <soundray> ChrisC36: while I was beta-testing gutsy
[09:19] <Dark_Shadow> thank u very much soundray
[09:19] <Zeit|awy_> speedRS: 86400 > 28800, a bit strange, and all your records miss a . dot at the end and a NS record should have a full entry like xxxx....arpa In NS ns.whatever.tld.
[09:19] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: de rien
[09:19] <steven_> Question: sudo apt-get install anything <> Reading package lists... Done <> Building dependency tree  <> Reading state information... Done <> E: The package panda-security needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:19] <steven_> How can I manually remove Panda-Security.
[09:19] <onats> hello, what is the best way to run windows under ubuntu?
[09:19] <VSpike> Can anyone tell me which package provides the skeleton /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[09:20] <Zeit|awy_> speedRS: check http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch8/#zone for bind syntax
[09:20] <soundray> onats: there isn't really a 'best' way, only approaches that are more or less suitable
[09:20] <onats> soundray, what's your suggestion?
[09:20] <nforce> well net - then i can't help you
[09:20] <soundray> onats: what do you need Windows for?
[09:20] <nforce> maybe someone else is able to
[09:20] <steven_> Question: sudo apt-get install anything <> Reading package lists... Done <> Building dependency tree  <> Reading state information... Done <> E: The package panda-security needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. (How can I manually remove Panda-Security???)
[09:20] <ChrisC36> soundray well its at 5% again, and no more messages coming to the console window\
[09:21] <onats> soundray, itunes, Counterstrike source...
[09:21] <onats> soundray, and the occasional users who cant use linux
[09:21] <soundray> ChrisC36: any errors at the end of dmesg output? (Run it in a separate terminal)
[09:21] <anirudh0> onats, counterstrike works on wine..itunes is rotten anyway
[09:22] <steven_> Question: sudo apt-get install anything <> Reading package lists... Done <> Building dependency tree  <> Reading state information... Done <> E: The package panda-security needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. (How can I manually remove Panda-Security or fix the problem???)
[09:22] <soundray> onats: I'd try wine first. It's much lighter than a full virtualization environment. If you go for the latter, though, I'd pick virtualbox for a first attempt.
[09:22] <Guillem_> OK, moving .mozilla/firefox to .mozilla/firefox-3-backup and .mozilla/firefox-2.replaced to .mozilla/firefox has made the trick...
[09:22] <Dark_Shadow> soundray, it doesn't work
[09:22] <Dark_Shadow> :/
[09:22] <Dark_Shadow> i installed it
[09:22] <soundray> onats: mind you, graphics acceleration does not work too well in either
[09:22] <ChrisC36> soundray ran that, it finished outputting, i heard my cd rom go, and it froze up now
[09:23] <anirudh0> soundray, counterstrike works perfectly under wine..including network play and graphics
[09:23] <soundray> ChrisC36: how big is the drive?
[09:23] <ronin1234> Hey there when I first started using ubuntu I created a Raid 5 arry with 4 disks using mdadm
[09:23] <Stupid^Kid> i found when i do some operate(e.g.  copy or move) on  reiserfs partions . it performs very slow , so what can i do ; howto check the disk faults
[09:23] <ChrisC36> soundray 250gb
[09:23] <soundray> onats: did you see that ^^ (thanks anirudh0)
[09:23] <Dark_Shadow> 10:21:06 (20.07 KB/s) - « ./install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz » sauvegardé [3044538/3044538]
[09:23] <Dark_Shadow> Download done.
[09:23] <Dark_Shadow> Flash Plugin installed
[09:24] <Stupid^Kid> fsck?
[09:24]  * belendax khaste shode
[09:24] <ronin1234> now i went bit sudo crazy so how do you back up the raid settings as i want to do a complete system re-install
[09:24] <Dark_Shadow> we're sorry this video is no longer available
[09:24] <Dark_Shadow> ..;
[09:24] <soundray> ChrisC36: so about 35 Euros if it's a writeoff?
[09:24] <ronin1234> anyone good with raid arrays that can help me?
[09:25] <onats> soundray, yup!
[09:25] <onats> anirudh0, but my iphone won't "sync" properly if i dont have itunes...
[09:25] <onats> :(
[09:25] <onats> how about vmware server?
[09:25] <ChrisC36> soundray probably about 70$ i guess, but i can send it back under warranty to manu
[09:25] <anirudh0> onats, gtkpod
[09:25] <onats> gtkpod, even the contacts?
[09:25] <anirudh0> oh..iphone,,,
[09:25] <ChrisC36> I just received it from warranty replacement lol
[09:25] <onats> i mean anirudh0
[09:25] <anirudh0> no idea about the phone
[09:26] <anirudh0> but others will know...
[09:26] <ChrisC36> i guess i could put it in my winxp machine and run the seagate diagnostics
[09:26] <anirudh0> ChrisC36, i assume fsck fails?
[09:26] <ChrisC36> didint try it
[09:26] <soundray> ChrisC36: well, you can't claim warranty if it's been dropped. Perhaps your household insurance covers it, though.
[09:26] <ChrisC36> how do i do that, just fsck
[09:27] <ChrisC36> well i can try sending it back and say it doesnt work.
[09:27] <Dark_Shadow> soundray, please help meh
[09:27] <soundray> anirudh0: it's an empty drive, no filesystem on there yet to check ( ChrisC36)
[09:27] <soundray> ChrisC36: that would be dishonest, though (not my problem, of course)
[09:27] <speedRS> Zeit|awy_: Tried changing it to suit these. It now doesn't seem to like 3h, saying it is not a real number.
[09:28] <ChrisC36> soundray if I felt i could trust the big corp, i could tell them it was dropped - i dont know if that is the actual problem , but anyways
[09:28] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: does the Flash animation on this page work: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/
[09:29] <Dark_Shadow> soundray, no
[09:29] <ronin1234> mdadm help anyone? do i just need to backup the config file and run assemble?
[09:30] <Dark_Shadow> it said click here to dl the plagin
[09:31] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: I get the same message for the shockwave player, but the flash animation below that should work.
[09:31] <Dark_Shadow> when i click it said no suitable plugins were found
[09:31] <ChrisC36> well  fsck /dev/sda1 is checking some stuff\
[09:31] <ChrisC36> there is sda1, 2, 5
[09:31] <powertool08> where does xmmms save playlists by default?
[09:32] <ChrisC36> its fixing some things
[09:33] <Zeit|awy_> speedRS: bind accepts several $TTL-formats - not sure about latest builds, but never had problems with it, see http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/apa/time.html
[09:33] <Dark_Shadow> soundray, the flash animation works but the shokwave no
[09:34] <soundray> powertool08: not sure, but you can find out by saving one under the name 'someuniquestring.m3u', and then running 'sudo updatedb ; locate someuniquetring.m3u'
[09:34] <xbj9000> hi, I'm trying to create a shortcut in xfce taskbar, but it doesn't run the same as if I type it into terminal myself
[09:34] <anirudh0> powertool08, nothing in .xmms?
[09:34] <soundray> Dark_Shadow: the Shockwave one isn't supposed to work. But your Flash is installed correctly.
[09:34] <xbj9000> Dark_Shadow, are you a fan of the show?
[09:34] <powertool08> soundray: when it asks for a name it also asks for a location, which has changed from default
[09:35] <Dark_Shadow> lol
[09:35] <Dark_Shadow> i want to play youtube vidz
[09:35] <sparky_> Which package do I install so I can run Java in FireFox?
[09:35] <xbj9000> I'm also working on youtube vids
[09:35] <powertool08> anirudh0: thats where i looked first, so either the ones i had were deleted or it saves elsewhere, there is an xmms.m3u file there tho
[09:35] <ChrisC36> can i install mythbuntu onto a usb external hd?
[09:35] <tech0007> !java | sparky
[09:35] <ChrisC36> i have a 160gb i dont really use
[09:35] <xbj9000> I can do totem /tmp/Flash* to play whatever youtube video just loaded, in totem
[09:36] <soundray> powertool08: in that case, you could stop xmms, do a 'mv ~/.xmms ~/xmms-backup', restart xmms and follow the procedure above (starting from a clean slate config-wise)
[09:36] <xbj9000> but when I make a shortcut button to that command, it says no such file
[09:36] <soundray> ChrisC36: yes, that's possible (if somewhat slower)
[09:36] <soundray> !install | ChrisC36
[09:36] <BoltClock> soundray: i reinstalled ubuntu
[09:36] <soundray> BoltClock: problem solved?
[09:37] <BoltClock> soundray: well i havent used it long enough yet. anyway i wasnt allowed to leave my pc on overnight
[09:37] <gaminggeek> um Hi
[09:37] <powertool08> soundray: anirudh0: thanks, i found them
[09:37] <soundray> BoltClock: but you haven't seen the problem since?
[09:37] <BoltClock> soundray: not yet.
[09:38] <BoltClock> hopefully never again
[09:38] <soundray> BoltClock: fingers crossed :)
[09:38] <BoltClock> soundray :)
[09:38] <gaminggeek> totem crashed and doesnt seem to be running but its is still run and using up most of my cpu and seems to be impervious to killall -9 totem what do I do?
[09:38] <gaminggeek> s/run/running
[09:39] <net> soundray : i use awn dock but can i place it in the top of the window
[09:39] <speedRS> Zeit|awy_: Still no luck. I have to head off but will have a further play later on. Thanks for the help.
[09:39] <soundray> net: any particular reason you're asking me?
[09:39] <tech0007> gaminggeek: i sometimes find gnome system monitor better in killing processes
[09:40] <zafy> any particular problem with firefox crashing without a warning in hardy or is it just me ?
[09:40] <soundray> zafy: it's just you... See if it still happens when you start 'firefox -safe-mode'
[09:40] <gaminggeek> it says the status is Uninterruptible....
[09:41] <net> soundry : nothing ...i thought u may knoe this
[09:41] <MrABC> anyone knows how to use multiple applications with sounds...example firefox(youtube) with totem player??
[09:41] <zafy> soundray, okay, I use firebug if that helps, installed the ubuntu package
[09:41] <tech0007> gaminggeek: try 'end' 'stop' or 'kill'
[09:41] <sparky_> !java
[09:41] <xbj9000> MrABC, be more specific?
[09:41] <soundray> gaminggeek: in this kind of situation I find a method useful which I learned back in my DOS days...
[09:42] <net> soundray :  nothing ...i thought u may knoe this
[09:42] <MrABC> well let's say i listen to mp3s with totem media player and later on i want to listen to a track on youtube
[09:42] <soundray> gaminggeek: ...reboot (gasp!)
[09:42] <gaminggeek> heh
[09:42] <xbj9000> MrABC, I just learned that Totem has a youtube plugin and you can browse youtube directly from totem
[09:42] <elinsurrecto> hello guys
[09:42] <anirudh0> lol
[09:42] <MrABC> when i get to youtube i get no sound
[09:42] <xbj9000> ah
[09:42] <anirudh0> gaminggeek, look up GNU screen
[09:42] <MrABC> hasn't worked for me
[09:42] <elinsurrecto> any1 can guide me installing compizfusion?
[09:42] <BoltClock> soundray: actually you know what. i searched in my pidgin logs for this channel and saw that i first asked about wxWidgets back on 28 april. i didnt experience the problems at all even after that messed up filezilla install... my next suspect is wine :S
[09:42] <gaminggeek> GNU screen?
[09:43] <MrABC> but i will also like to be able to have multiple applications using the same sound card
[09:43] <xbj9000> MrABC, your problem is related to Pulse Audio and/or ALSA
[09:43] <MrABC> like xp or any other linux distro
[09:43] <gaminggeek> whats that got todo with anything?
[09:43] <anirudh0> gaminggeek, allows multiple virtual screwens over a console ..look up its man page..if one hangs the others still work
[09:43] <tech0007> MrABC: did u try pulseaudio
[09:43] <BoltClock> soundray: but even if i dont run any wine apps at all i still experience the problem... so im still uncertain about this. even after removing wine i still experienced the problem though
[09:43] <MrABC> how to i get to do this
[09:44] <soundray> anirudh0: gaminggeek's problem is an un-kill-able process
[09:44] <nixar> in what package is the man page wait(2) ?
[09:44] <tech0007> !pulseaudio | MrABC
[09:44] <MrABC> i read a few guides but didn't work
[09:44] <anirudh0> soundray, even with kill -9
[09:44] <anirudh0> ?
[09:44] <MrABC> i'll try this right now
[09:44] <gaminggeek> anirudh0: yes
[09:45] <anirudh0> tech0007, manpages-dev ..i gues
[09:45] <nanothief> I'm having a problem where browsing the internet/downloading files causes high cpu usage for the browser and xorg. It happens with firefox, opera and konqueror. Anyone know what could cause this? (ubuntu hardy btw)
[09:45] <anirudh0> gaminggeek, zombie?
[09:45] <tech0007> anirudh0:  huh?
[09:45] <nixar> anirudh0: thanks that seems to be it
[09:45] <gaminggeek> top says 0 zombies...
[09:45] <anirudh0> tech0007, ?
[09:45] <tech0007> gaminggeek: i know zombies are impossible to kill
[09:46] <nixar> anirudh0: , tech0007: he was talking to me, i think
[09:46] <gaminggeek> looks like it is a zombie
[09:46] <tech0007> ﻿anirudh0: tech0007, manpages-dev ..i gues
[09:46] <darth> tech0007, not true, just aim for the head
[09:46] <anirudh0> look in  ps -A|grep  <process>
[09:46] <gaminggeek> guess even a shotgun to the head doesnt work with linux zombies :(
[09:46]  * darth barges into conversation
[09:46] <soundray> tech0007: unless you shoot them in the head
[09:46] <anirudh0> darth, lol..too much gaming ;)
[09:46] <tech0007> soundray: lol
[09:46] <darth> :)
[09:47] <darth> great minds think alike
[09:47] <nixar> soundray: or he should'v waited
[09:47] <anirudh0> gaminggeek, if its a zombie, it should show up in ps
[09:47] <soundray> darth: mine's just always a little slower ;)
[09:47] <Stupid^Kid>  No corruptions found
[09:47] <Stupid^Kid>  There are on the filesystem:
[09:47] <Stupid^Kid>          Leaves 57605
[09:47] <Stupid^Kid>          Internal nodes 387
[09:47] <Stupid^Kid>          Directories 558
[09:47] <FloodBot1> Stupid^Kid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:47] <ChrisC36> soundray hey this is interesting - after fdisk fixed sda1, i ran install again, and picked the already setup partitions (resize option). It got past the 5% and is now 56% done installing
[09:47] <Stupid^Kid>          Other files 7340
[09:47] <gaminggeek> wow its been running for 50h according to htob
[09:48] <Stupid^Kid> is That something wrong with my partion
[09:48] <Stupid^Kid> ?
[09:48] <soundray> ChrisC36: maybe you were lucky in that only a few sectors were damaged, and they've now been marked as bad, so they won't be used.
[09:48] <anirudh0> when i use awn, and the compiz negate effect, the lower part (awn) turns white, messing up the point of the negative..any ideas?
[09:48] <ChrisC36> hmm cool
[09:49] <scizzo-> Stupid^Kid: please place the paste in a pastebin and send us the link here
[09:49] <baruffechiozzott> Hi, I only need to contact an UK or USA person
[09:49] <soundray> Stupid^Kid: no, that's something wrong in the way you use this channel.
[09:49] <croxis> hey guys.  I just installed openvpn on hardy server and my client can connect, but can't ping the server or each other.  It looks like it is a firewall/iptables issue but I have never touched those before.  Any suggestions?
[09:49] <ChrisC36> isnt the head parked though when off, so that if you drop it cant touch the disk?
[09:49] <_empemp_> hi, i run kernel 2.6.24-18 and want to make vmware compatible
[09:49] <_empemp_> trying to get the source with typing apt-get install linux-tree but that doesn't work
[09:50] <_empemp_> when i trype apt-get install linux-source it says 2.6.24
[09:50] <_empemp_> is that correct?
[09:50] <_empemp_> or should i find the 2.6.24-18 ?
[09:50] <NemosNemos> Hi everybody
[09:50] <soundray> ChrisC36: yes -- if that wasn't the case, it would only take the slightest shock to cause a headcrash
[09:50] <ominostanco> hello there
[09:50] <tech0007> !enter | _empemp_
[09:50] <phimic> hello all
[09:50] <NemosNemos> Why cannot I retrieve the Channels List?
[09:50] <Stupid^Kid> sorry every one
[09:50] <croxis> _empemp_, 2.6.24 should update to the latest version
[09:50] <phimic> i installed ubuntu 8.04 and have some installatin problems
[09:50] <_empemp_> ok, sorry for that
[09:51] <Stupid^Kid> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18994/
[09:51] <brubelsa1s> how to logout on wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[09:51] <soundray> _empemp_: no, the -18 just indicates Ubuntu's version
[09:51] <ominostanco> I'm here to test ultim8 edition
[09:51] <phimic> i have created two mdX soft-raid devices and want to install grub, but this fails
[09:51] <sparky_> I've installed sun-java6-jre via sudo apt-get, but it's still not working.  Can anyone help?
[09:51] <_empemp_> croxis: so i am good to go?
[09:51] <NemosNemos> Can a person from USA or UK contact me in private, please? It's urgent
[09:51] <croxis> Yup
[09:52] <_empemp_> soundray: so 2.6.24 and 2.6.24-18 is basically the same?
[09:53] <sparky_> I've installed sun-java6-jre via sudo apt-get, but it's still not working.  Can anyone help?
[09:53] <soundray> _empemp_: 2.6.24-18-generic is the current binary Ubuntu kernel compiled from 2.6.24 source
[09:53] <tech0007> _empemp_: see the changelog in packages.ubuntu.com
[09:54] <tech0007> sparky_: go to http://www.java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
[09:54] <_empemp_> hmm, not sure i understand this.. but i should be fine to compile vmmon modules from the 2.6.24 to use on my 2.6.24-18?
[09:54] <soundray> sparky_: can you elaborate on 'not working'?
[09:54] <pjotr> sparky: sudo update-alternatives --config jav
[09:54] <sparky_> soundray, the applets are empty
[09:54] <pjotr> --config java
[09:54] <anthon1> i need some help with aiff files whos tags arent shown when opened with rythmbox
[09:55] <sparky_> And I can't play a Yahoo game, it errors on me
[09:55] <ominostanco> bye
[09:55] <sparky_> I'm told to make sure that Java is installed, even though I installed that package
[09:55] <soundray> sparky_: do a 'update-alternatives --list java' and see if the one that comes out on top is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java
[09:56] <sparky_> Yup, it pops up
[09:56] <anthon1> does anyone know a solution to my problem?
[09:57] <soundray> sparky_: oh, you're on a 64bit system, correct?
[09:57] <sparky_> soundray,  I believe so
[09:57] <gordonjcp> anthon1: what's the problem?
[09:57] <anthon1> ﻿ i need some help with aiff files whos tags arent shown when opened with rythmbox
[09:57] <m1r> 2.6.24-18 did not set itself on grub list after upgrade , how to troubleshot ?
[09:58] <soundray> m1r: have you moved /boot around recently?
[09:58] <m1r> hi soundray , nothing has been moved , did regular upgrade only...
[09:58] <anirudh0> sparky_, did you install the plugin or the jre?
[09:58] <soundray> sparky_: Java applets not working with the Sun JRE on 64bit system is a known problem. I don't know whether there is a solution yet
[09:59] <LimCore> hello
[09:59] <LimCore> ikonia: hi
[09:59] <soundray> m1r: 'sudo update-grub' should fix it if that step was just skipped for some reason
[10:00] <SaraSmith> how do i get out of root?
[10:00] <LimCore> why NTP fails to work in ubuntu?
[10:00] <soundray> SaraSmith: how did you get in?
[10:00] <m1r> soundray: will try now and reboot ,brb
[10:00] <soundray> m1r: before you reboot...
[10:00] <sparky_> anirudh0, I haven't installed the plugin, I was told to just get the jre.  Which package would be the plugin?
[10:00] <SaraSmith> soundray sudo -i
[10:00] <soundray> SaraSmith: 'exit'
[10:01] <soundray> m1r: check whether your /boot/grub/menu.lst now shows the current kernel on top of the list
[10:01] <Dark_Shadow> can i shipit an ubuntu muslim edition?
[10:01] <anirudh0> sparky_: sun-java6-plugin
[10:01] <m1r> soundray:  Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-18-generic , will check now
[10:01] <AlexW_> if i just installed a new wireless card
[10:01] <AlexW_> how do i "rebuild" kernel
[10:01] <anirudh0> Dark_Shadow: afaik only ubuntu and kubuntu..maybe xubuntu
[10:01] <AlexW_> is there an easy way
[10:02] <sparky_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:02] <sparky_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:02] <werther> hey
[10:02] <sparky_> What does mean? o.O
[10:02] <anirudh0> AlexW_: yes..google for "ubuntu compile kernel
[10:02] <m1r> soundray: -17 is still on top
[10:02] <AlexW_> anirudh0, thanks
[10:02] <cromag> sparky_: might have synaptics open.
[10:02] <anthon1> ﻿ i need some help with aiff files whos tags arent shown when opened with rythmbox
[10:02] <soundray> AlexW_: you're adding a new wireless card to an installed system?
[10:02] <anirudh0> sparky_: another apt is running..sudo killall apt
[10:02] <werther> is firefox 3 final version just released for Ubuntu?
[10:02] <tech0007> werther: nope, its on rc1
[10:03] <soundray> AlexW_: you don't have to compile a new kernel just to make your system aware of a new card ( anirudh0, what were you thinking?)
[10:03] <ronin1234> anyone able to help with mdadm?
[10:03] <rastakid> hi all
[10:03] <rastakid> Eh... is Firefox 3.0 released?
[10:03] <soundray> werther: no, it's not yet been released at all
[10:03] <rastakid> I just pulled it in from the apt sources
[10:03] <ronin1234> probablt rc2
[10:03] <tech0007> !firefox
[10:03] <rastakid> it doesn't say so in the credits
[10:03] <m1r> soundray: menu.lst still have -17 on top of list
[10:04] <AlexW_> Soundray, how so?
[10:04] <werther> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9) Gecko/2008060309 Firefox/3.0
[10:04] <axelpaxel> Hi, I'm trying to delete a folder which i do not have access to. How do I delete that folder? Sudo nautilus won't lett me do it
[10:04] <soundray> AlexW_: give me a minute, I just want to try and solve m1r's weird problem...
[10:04] <werther> i just updated my ubuntu system, and firefox 3 is on the list
[10:05] <rastakid> *ding ding ding* :)
[10:05] <tech0007> axelpaxel: sudo rm -rf (folder).............BE VERY CAREFUL WITH THIS
[10:05] <soundray> m1r: do you have a separate /boot partition?
[10:05] <anirudh0> axelpaxel: sudo rm -r <folder>
[10:05] <rastakid> that's what I mean
[10:05] <rastakid> strange huh?
[10:05] <m1r> soundray: no
[10:05] <werther> then when i open firefox again, check "about" it just says Firefox 3,
[10:05] <anirudh0> axelpaxel: BE VERY CAREFUL..DONT PUT A . AFTER THE COMMAND
[10:05] <axelpaxel> tech0007: I'll probably forget the command in 30 secs, so it's quite safe :D
[10:05] <werther> doesn't have rc2 or something
[10:06] <m1r> soundray: root (hd1,0)
[10:06] <rastakid> could some one else confirm this? werther and me both have Firefox 3.0 installed
[10:06] <tech0007> werther:  3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1
[10:06] <soundray> m1r: sudo update-grub didn't report any errors?
[10:06] <rastakid> it broke my firebug :(
[10:06] <m1r> soundray: let me recheck
[10:06] <LimCore> why ubuntu fails so hard to provide basic things like NTP time synchronization?
[10:07] <anirudh0> tech0007: what does the nobinonly indicate?
[10:07] <rastakid> from apt-cache: firefox-3.0 - safe and easy web browser from Mozilla
[10:07] <soundray> LimCore: what a loaded question. Perhaps you just can't configure it properly
[10:07] <m1r> soundray: sent u update-grub on PM
[10:07] <MrABC> the sound wiki didn't work and now can't get any sound from firefox to work!!
[10:07] <m1r> soundray: seems all ok to me
[10:07] <tech0007> anirudh0: its a metapackage that will point to the latest ff in ubuntu...just reading haha
[10:07] <clarezoe> anyone uses podnova? a podcast client, I've downloaded it from it's website, but I have not clue how to run it http://www.podnova.com
[10:08] <anirudh0> tech0007: thats granparadiso..i meant the nobinonly in the deb name
[10:08] <LimCore> soundray: well if I start ntp then I would expect my time to be synchronized... how to cionfigure it then
[10:08] <axelpaxel> wuick question: is there any "log-feature" in xchat btw?
[10:08] <anthon1> ﻿ i need some help with aiff files whos tags arent shown when opened with rythmbox
[10:08] <anirudh0> axelpaxel: yes
[10:08] <tech0007> anirudh0: see 'dpkg -s firefox'
[10:08] <soundray> LimCore: no, that's not what ntp is for
[10:08] <anirudh0> tech0007: i think you are misunderstanding my question...i know the package name..i'd like to know what it means
[10:09] <rastakid> alright, it's just strange that it says nowhere that it's a RC
[10:09] <tech0007> anirudh0: nobin...mean no binaries...
[10:09] <achadwick> LimCore: System > Administration > Time and Date > Unlock. soundray: uh, no.
[10:10] <soundray> LimCore: Ubuntu synchronizes automatically with a timeserver when the defaultroute network interface goes up. That's the default setup
[10:10] <anirudh0> clarezoe: looks like a python package..i there a setup.py in the dir?
[10:10] <anirudh0> *is
[10:10] <soundray> achadwick: what?
[10:11] <AlexCONRAD> Hi, during a unattended install (pressed) is it a bad idea to chroot /taget/, patch, make, make modules, make install, mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd... ? I have compiled a network driver during auto-install process, and it crashes on reboot. I have made the same manipultations *after* an installation and the driver works fine. Any pointers ?
[10:11] <achadwick> soundray: NTP is for time synchronisation. That is the protocol's job. But I did not know about the default config, been a while since I did a fresh install.
[10:11] <MrABC> can anyone help me, i did the pulse audio thing and now i can't get any sound from firefox...
[10:12] <jaklumen> pulse audio thing?
[10:12] <LimCore> achadwick: Unable to contact time server: pool.ntp.org.
[10:12] <LimCore> cool, I found 2nd bog then
[10:12] <MrABC> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[10:13] <ronin1234> for firefox go to help:release notes to find the version
[10:13] <LimCore> achadwick: above messages is from kde system settings -> time and date -> [x] setup time automatically.    it does work from command line
[10:13] <AlexW_> soundray, :/
[10:13] <MrABC> didn't work
[10:13] <tech0007> MrABC: did u try renaming .asoundrc and .asoundrc.asoundconf ?
[10:13] <soundray> AlexW_: what type of wifi card have you added?
[10:13] <MrABC> renaming?
[10:13] <clarezoe> anirudh0, I only found one setup.pyc, and then it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/18998/ in the terminal
[10:13] <LimCore> soundray: no, it does not do that auto synchronization by default
[10:14] <AlexW_> soundray, D-Link G510
[10:14] <LimCore> soundray: then what for is ntp?
[10:14] <AlexW_> PCI
[10:14] <tech0007> MrABC: mv ~/.asoundrc .asoundrc.old  mv ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf.old
[10:14] <anirudh0> clarezoe: install python-plistlib
[10:14] <tech0007> MrABC: then close/open firefox
[10:14] <soundray> AlexW_: how is it connected to your computer?
[10:15] <AlexW_> pci
[10:15] <clarezoe> anirudh0, ok, thanks. come back later
[10:15] <AlexW_> soundray, pci
[10:15] <m1r> AlexW_: i use same card without any problem on 8.04, worked out of box
[10:15] <LimCore> soundray: man ntpd says that its a deamon which sets and maintains system time and date... thats exacly what I want
[10:16] <AlexW_> mlr, i just put it in
[10:16] <rastakid> http://ubuntuforums.org/ down?
[10:16] <soundray> LimCore: it's for time synchronization all right. The package that syncs your host with an internet timeserver, though, is ntpdate. And its default setup is fine. You're not supposed to install ntpd unless you know exactly what you are doing
[10:16] <tech0007> rastakid: nope
[10:16] <m1r> AlexW_: does it get listed on lspci ?
[10:16] <anirudh0> LimCore: hate to ask the obvious..but is the daemon running?
[10:16] <LimCore> rastakid: works for me
[10:16] <MrABC> NO SUCH FILES
[10:16] <ikonia> LimCore: did you call me ?
[10:16] <m1r> hi ikonia
[10:16] <LimCore> anirudh0: yes, it was running all the time. I finally stoped it to use ntpdate by hand to confirm that clock FAILED and was desynchronized
[10:17] <ikonia> m1r: hello
[10:17] <ronin1234> a little msadm help anyone?
[10:17] <AlexW_> Not that i can see
[10:17] <Dark_Shadow> how to update wine?
[10:17] <LimCore> ikonia: yes, my clock drifted -10 minutes, again =)
[10:17] <Dark_Shadow> i'm under gusty
[10:17] <rastakid> hmm.. it can't connect to yui.yahooapis.com
[10:17] <ronin1234> mdadm
[10:17] <LimCore> ntp's failure: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/238805
[10:17] <Dark_Shadow> and i have the 0.9.46
[10:17] <soundray> AlexW_: can you put your lspci output on http://paste.ubuntu.com please
[10:17] <clarezoe> anirudh0, TypeError: Error when calling the metaclass bases
[10:17] <clarezoe>     cannot create 'builtin_function_or_method' instances
[10:17] <ikonia> LimCore: ok, so a 10 minute drift is quite large, over how long did it drift ?
[10:17] <anirudh0> LimCore: atleast it drifts in the safe directrion :)
[10:17] <tech0007> LimCore: run ntpdate in your startup, this worked for me when i was in gutsy
[10:17] <m1r> AlexW_: not that it should matter , but u can try switch PCI slot just for test ?
[10:17] <anirudh0> clarezoe: post whole log..hard to make out from just 2 lines
[10:17] <LimCore> ikonia: computer was running for 3 days, and the lag increased, as if ntpd did nothing to fix it
[10:17] <AlexW_> soundray,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/18999/
[10:18] <ikonia> LimCore: ntpd isnt for controlling your system time
[10:18] <clarezoe> anirudh0, sorry, just a moment
[10:18] <AlexW_> soundray, the light on the back is working so :/
[10:18] <LimCore> ikonia: manual says it is
[10:18] <ikonia> LimCore: I thought you where having problems syncing against your ntp server
[10:18] <Dark_Shadow> oO no one can help...
[10:18] <LimCore>  The  ntpd program is an operating system daemon which sets and main The  ntpd program is an operating system daemon which sets and maintains the system time of day in synchronism[..]tains the system time of day in synchronism
[10:18] <ikonia> LimCore: it's  "time server" it needs to be setup correclty in the stratum service to work
[10:18] <LimCore> damn mouse middle button
[10:18] <ikonia> LimCore: I know what it does
[10:18] <clarezoe> anirudh0, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19000/
[10:19] <ikonia> LimCore: I think your miss-uindersanding the wording a little
[10:19] <LimCore> hmm ok, then again
[10:19] <LimCore> how to have my system time synchronized to pool.ntp.org ?
[10:19] <ikonia> LimCore: but if you want to control your desktop clock with ntpd then, that can be done
[10:19] <AlexW_> m1r, http://paste.ubuntu.com/18999/
[10:19] <LimCore> well any way that works would be fine
[10:19] <ikonia> LimCore: just realise that your actually setting up a time server, not syncing your clock
[10:19] <tech0007> LimCore: if it happens too often, it might be hardware (CMOS battery) i think
[10:19] <AlexW_> I have two of these cards
[10:20] <m1r>  AlexW_ can u try reslot cards ?
[10:20] <AlexW_> ill go try the other
[10:20] <AlexW_> bbs
[10:20] <ikonia> LimCore: remember there is a client and a server, ntpd is the server - it "serves" time
[10:20] <LimCore> hmm ok, my goal is simply to have my desktop's system clock to be synchronized to pool.ntp.org what is the best way for it
[10:20] <ikonia> LimCore: ntpdate
[10:20] <sparky_> Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:20] <sparky_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another sourceE: Package sun-java6-plugin has no installation candidate
[10:20] <sparky_> Any solution to that?
[10:20] <LimCore> ikonia: but on ##linux they told me to use ntp instead ntpdate
[10:21] <ikonia> LimCore: that is an option, yes
[10:21] <LimCore> ikonia: running ntpdate from cron is not the best, because it may "jump"
[10:21] <anirudh0> clarezoe: see http://pypi.python.org/pypi/py2app/
[10:21] <LimCore> I heatred that ntpd is better because it runs continuesly therefore better
[10:21] <ikonia> LimCore: yes, the clock may jump, so putting your cron job time of, that is a fair point ot make
[10:21] <MrABC> A BIG THANK YOU to the ubuntu community for helping me solve my sound problem... Thanks again!
[10:21] <anirudh0> clarezoe: this says that py2app..the cause of your error is a mac specific thing
[10:21] <ikonia> LimCore: ntp is a "time server" - its your call if thats how you want to set up your machine
[10:21] <anirudh0> clarezoe: you are sure that you downloaded the right thing?
[10:22] <LimCore> ikonia: ok I want to use this ntp.  How to use it to have my local time synchronized?
[10:22] <anirudh0> LimCore: why not setup time once ,and then let it run?
[10:22] <chazco> Hi.. i've installed Google earth from medibuntu, but its very slow. glxinfo says I have direct rendering and OpenGL support. Laptop is a Toshiba u200. Any ideas?
[10:22] <LimCore> anirudh0: my hardware drifts strongly, it needs to be adjusted
[10:22] <anirudh0> chazco: disable compiz
[10:22] <chazco> Its already disabled, not a fan of it
[10:23] <anirudh0> LimCore: err..replace the motherbaird battery?
[10:23] <clarezoe> anirudh0, I think so, this only one link for download, will it bother you to download it yourself and check? http://www.podnova.com/subscriptions/download/   thank you very much
[10:23] <anirudh0> *motherboard
[10:23] <ubud> how to enable file sharing in 8.04
[10:23] <ikonia> LimCore: ok, what part is no clear to you
[10:23] <anirudh0> ubud: install samba
[10:24] <anirudh0> clarezoe: ok..btw there are other podcast clients out there
[10:24] <ubud> anirudh0: how
[10:24] <tech0007> ubud: right click on the folder you want to share and it will prompt you to install the necessary packages
[10:24] <RabidWeezle> I am looking for a program to extra ima floppy images, any ideas?
[10:24] <RabidWeezle> extract*
[10:24] <jaklumen> I just installed a new Audigy SE sound card... before, I couldn't listen to streaming .mp3s... now I can't listen to mp3s at all, saved or streaming
[10:24] <pecisk> hi people, I have changed /etc/alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin to swfdec and would like to test it. However, Firefox insists to using Adobe Flash, about:plugins still shows it's information, I tried to delete pluginreg.dat from .mozilla/firefox/profile.dat directory, but it gets recreated. Any clues how to force Firefox to get plugin from /etc/alternagtives?
[10:25] <Flannel> LimCore: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html
[10:25] <chazco> Ah, its the atmospherics option. No idea why
[10:25] <clarezoe> anirudh0, I checked some tests, and some people recommend it, so I just try to use it, otherwise I will try other one.
[10:25] <axelpaxel> ok, ALSO, I have a cd-rom icon on my desktop, how do I remove it? It wasn't there before
[10:26] <tech0007> axelpaxel: theres a CD in the drive/
[10:26] <RabidWeezle> anyone know anything about *.ima floppy images?
[10:26] <sparky_> Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another sourceE: Package sun-java6-plugin has no installation candidate  How do I fix that?
[10:26] <anirudh0> clarezoe: is python-setuptools installed?
[10:27] <onats> how can i kill running programs that are not responding?
[10:27] <anirudh0> onats: kill
[10:27] <clarezoe> anirudh0, yes
[10:27] <tech0007> onats: go to gnome system monitor
[10:27] <axelpaxel> tech0007: Kind of embarassed right now..
[10:27] <pecisk> onats: ps aux, kill -9 proccess_id_of_app
[10:27] <tech0007> axelpaxel: np
[10:27] <anirudh0> clarezoe: i get the same error ;)
[10:27] <axelpaxel> tech0007: But you said there was a log in xchat? where?
[10:27] <richardh> \leave
[10:27] <tsudot> onats: do "kill -9 <PID>
[10:28] <julius> austria
[10:28] <tech0007> axelpaxel: did i say that?
[10:28] <onats> tsudot, how do i list the processes again?
[10:28] <anirudh0> clarezoe: no idea on how to resolve it...on the face of it looks like a bug in one of the packages downloaded from pipi
[10:28] <axelpaxel> tech0007: i asked, and you said yes
[10:28] <anirudh0> clarezoe: the install script downloaded a bunch of packages
[10:28] <onats> ah there, found it. thanks pecisk
[10:28] <axelpaxel> tech0007: like five minutes ago or so.. nvm
[10:28] <The-Seiman> hello all :)
[10:28] <tech0007> axelpaxel: sorry  it couldnt be me coz i dont use xchat, i use pidgin so i wouldnt know
[10:29] <clarezoe> anirudh0, really bad coding :) I'll try another one then. thank you very very much!
[10:29] <axelpaxel> tech0007: ok, guess it was someone other then :)
[10:29] <The-Seiman> i've rebuild my kernel with filesystem capabilities but... no sound and no 3D graphics :'(
[10:29] <onats> fantastic!
[10:29] <anirudh0> clarezoe: np..even rthymbix has podcast support iirc
[10:29] <anirudh0> *rhythmbox
[10:30] <soycheli> hola
[10:30] <LimCore> ikonia: well I hoped I will do  aptitude install something  and then my time will be synchronized nicelly.. Im reading doc.s
[10:30] <clarezoe> anirudh0, I removed gnome and using xfce now, I'm trying to used lightweight applications. what would you recommend then?
[10:30] <The-Seiman> does someone here know how to rebuild the kernel with the actual modules included + a custom module ( filesystem capabilities in my case ) ?
[10:31] <anirudh0> clarezoe: err...there are tons around..synaptic will throw up quite a few hits. but i've only used amarok..exaile is considered good though
[10:32] <powertool08> axelpaxel: if you're still looking for xchat logs, check ~/.xchat/xchatlogs
[10:32] <clarezoe> anirudh0, ok, I'll looking around, thank you again!
[10:32] <The-Seiman> no one ? :(
[10:33] <LimCore> ikonia: ok the docs ( https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/NTP.html ) say that I just have to install ntp  and that is all needed to have my time adjuested... but it doesnt work for me ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/238805 )... what am I doing wrong?
[10:33] <elkbuntu> clarezoe, depends how light you're trying to go.
[10:35] <clarezoe> elkbuntu, take less than 30M memory is fine
[10:36] <tech0007> why does .mkv files play very slow while others (avi, mpg, etc) play fine? i'm using mplayer.
[10:36] <ikonia> LimCore: have your read the docs
[10:37] <ikonia> ntpdate is a bit of a blunt instrument - it can only adjust the time once a day, in one big correction
[10:37] <elkbuntu> clarezoe, right, well a light alternative browser is dillo, claws for email, abiword for 'word' documents.
[10:37] <ikonia> it's constantly working out the time
[10:37] <jeed> Hi, what do i have to do to get AC3 sound playback with VLC? i have w32codecs, but whatever i do i cant get sound
[10:37] <LimCore> ikonia: hm?  well, that is why I do not use ntpdate, but use ntpd instead
[10:37] <clarezoe> elkbuntu, yeah, I'm already using them, I'm looking for a podcast client now
[10:37] <ikonia> LimCore: your not understanding
[10:38] <phantomas> hello is there any program that can convert xvid to dvd ?
[10:39] <LimCore> running ntpd deamons is a correct way to have own system clock to be synchronized, right?
[10:39] <Flannel> LimCore: is one correct way, yes.
[10:39] <tech0007> phantomas: tovid
[10:39] <elkbuntu> clarezoe, im not sure about a podcast client per se, but http://damnsmalllinux.org/applications.html is a useful list to refer to
[10:39] <LimCore> ok, so I run it,  but my time is not synchronized, it is 10 minutes off (after 3 days)
[10:39] <tomnjerry> hello
[10:39] <clarezoe> elkbuntu, thank you very much!
[10:40] <tech0007> phantomas: or dvdrip
[10:40] <tomnjerry> is there a site where i could get an animated ubuntu log-in theme
[10:40] <Flannel> LimCore: You don't run it personally, daemons do.  Do you have any servers in /etc/ntp.conf?
[10:40] <elkbuntu> clarezoe, i used to run DSL on a machine that had only 16mb ram, so it should fly in 30mb.
[10:40] <phantomas> tech0007: what is better?
[10:40] <homebrewcider> anybody else have problems printing? I'm using Xubuntu.I have a canon mp510 that prints all wrong. The stuff on the page is spread out left to right, and goes off te page, and the colours don't line up
[10:41] <tech0007> phantomas: you have to try them for yourself
[10:41] <clarezoe> elkbuntu, Ok, I'll check it.
[10:41] <tech0007> !best | phantomas
[10:41] <phantomas> ok do you know if i can add subtitles?
[10:42] <tech0007> phantomas: not really sure
[10:42] <ikonia> LimCore: just working out a better way to explain this to you
[10:42] <LimCore> Flannel: server ntp.ubuntu.com    and   server pool.ntp.org
[10:43] <b33r_> Hello when I'm trying to configure my eth0 I'm getting this error: Check that it is correctly typed and that it is correctly supported by your system
[10:43] <Flannel> LimCore: Alright, now verify ntpd is running.  ps aux | grep ntpd
[10:43] <phantomas> tech0007: in the package manager when i search for tovid it shows only todisc
[10:43] <LimCore> Flannel: yeah it was running
[10:43] <phantomas> todisc GUI
[10:44] <tech0007> phantomas: if you want a gui...better use avidemux...do 'sudo apt-get install avidemux'
[10:45] <phantomas> tech0007: ok thank you very much
[10:45] <The-Seiman> no one can help me to rebuild the kernel ? :-/
[10:45] <jeed> The-Seiman, which kernel?
[10:46] <ac3> How can my bash script access gnome-keyring-manager for a certain password? I have a script that promps for a password which is different from my gnome login password, so i want this to be stored in the login keyring which is unlocked after successfull login.
[10:46] <The-Seiman> jeed, the Linux kernel ( 2.6.24-18-generic )
[10:46] <LimCore> Flannel: ok I ntpd is not running
[10:46] <jeed> The-Seiman, why would you wanna be doing that?
[10:47] <The-Seiman> I actually have a Linux kernel 2.6.24-17-generic WITHOUT Filesystem capabilities
[10:47] <The-Seiman> so I want to rebuild a new one with that module activated
[10:47] <The-Seiman> but
[10:47] <ikonia> LimCore: look in the syslog
[10:47] <jeed> The-Seiman, thats a very valid reason, but .18 is a little old isnt it?
[10:47] <ikonia> LimCore: you should see a.) why its not running b.) when it is running constant updates for example " Jun 10 10:47:08 alesi ntpd[11403]: time reset +0.172827 s "
[10:48] <The-Seiman> i don't find something newer in synaptic :)
[10:48] <ikonia> LimCore: thats an example from my machine
[10:48] <prosith> hi has anybody here experiences with vls or video streaming?
[10:48] <jeed> The-Seiman, no need for synaptic or apt if your gunna go compiling your own, get the fresh stuff from kernel.org
[10:48] <The-Seiman> well i'm compiling in the "debian" way
[10:48] <bain> who can I sopeak to regarding ubuntu DNS problems ?
[10:48] <The-Seiman> so i use apt source
[10:49] <ikonia> bain: what's up
[10:49] <jeed> The-Seiman, oh no not the "Debian" way, thats no good
[10:49] <The-Seiman> anyway, i have successfully compiled the new kernel
[10:49] <bain> ikonia: za.archive.ubuntu.com does not resolve anymore ..
[10:49] <tomnjerry> how can i get animated ubuntu log-in themes?
[10:49] <prosith> has nobody there done something with a video stream server?
[10:49] <The-Seiman> but, without the modules i have added to the old kernel :'(
[10:49] <bain> but it seems to be a defective DNS server upstream .. not ubuntu DNS itself ..
[10:49] <jeed> tomnjerry, try gnome-look.org
[10:49] <The-Seiman> so, no sound, no 3D graphics ...*
[10:49] <ikonia> bain: bain resolve ok for me
[10:50] <ikonia> biabia: my dns servers are fine
[10:50] <Oli````> The latest firefox update (v3rc2) has broken my Firefox. I've tried it with a new profile and it's still broken (segmentation faults, and when it does load, no extensions work and there's no address or search bar (even when you try and customise)
[10:50] <ikonia> oops
[10:50] <tomnjerry> i did,but i could find any.
[10:50] <jeed> The-Seiman, should have done zcat /proc/config.gz >> /usr/linux/.config
[10:50] <ikonia> bain: my dns servers are fine. Contat the maintainer of your DNS server
[10:50] <jeed> then changed your config
[10:50] <ikonia> Oli````: where did you get that update ?
[10:50] <AlexW> m1r
[10:50] <AlexW> ?
[10:50] <ubuntu__> Someone please please, help.....I installed Ubuntu after trying the LiveCD...But when I rebooted it was not there, the Windows Vista boot loader was, but It did not give me a choice to boot into Ubuntu...Pleeeeez help me
[10:50] <Oli````> ikonia: update manager
[10:50] <ndf> jeed: whats the difference between cat and zcat?
[10:50] <AlexW> soundray, got it working :)
[10:50] <ikonia> Oli````: log a bug against it then
[10:51] <The-Seiman> jeed, or "cp /boot/config-`uname -r` /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`/debian/config/386" ?
[10:51] <ikonia> Oli````: this is the price of using proposed packages
[10:51] <jeed> ndf, zcat decompresses
[10:51] <Oli````> ikonia: I'm not
[10:51] <sparky_> Can anyone help me get Java running please? :/
[10:51] <ndf> oic
[10:51] <ubuntu__> please type    myname: so i know if you are repliying to me
[10:51] <ikonia> Oli````: oh ?
[10:51] <Oli````> ikonia:  backports, yes
[10:51] <jeed> The-Seiman, i trust whats running more than that ;)
[10:51] <help2day> someone tried to install incredimail on ubuntu, using wine?
[10:51] <jimcooncat_> bain, you could manually add it to /etc/hosts temporarily. can you ping 155.232.137.229 ?
[10:51] <ikonia> Oli````: RC1 is the only one in the repo I can see
[10:52] <LimCore> help2day: ... but why :)
[10:52] <The-Seiman> jeed, probably it's a noob question, but why /proc/config.gz and not the config file located at /boot/ ?
[10:52] <jaklumen> Anyone?  I can't get .mp3s to work.  I could get saved ones to work, but now I installed a Creative Audigy SE card, and now... I can't.
[10:52] <ubuntu__> Someone please please, help.....I installed Ubuntu after trying the LiveCD...But when I rebooted it was not there, the Windows Vista boot loader was, but It did not give me a choice to boot into Ubuntu...Pleeeeez help me
[10:52] <ikonia> Oli````: where is that being backported from ?
[10:52] <help2day> have a mail server, and a customer, do not can use incredi mail becurse tls
[10:52] <jaklumen> I've looked at the "Debugging Sound Problems" in the wiki, and I followed the multimedia sticky at the forums
[10:52] <jeed> The-Seiman, the /proc version is garunteed 100% the config for the kernel your running, the /boot may not be
[10:52] <Oli````> ikonia: yeah that's what the update said it was but the about>help and window message says RC2
[10:52] <bain> jimcooncat_: i've swiched to another DNS provider .. and all working ..
[10:52] <The-Seiman> jeed, okay thanks :-)
[10:52] <bain> thanks ..
[10:53] <Flannel> Oli````: apt-cache policy firefox
[10:53] <jeed> The-Seiman, its just the same thing and one has more success, so i think why not do that
[10:53] <The-Seiman> jeed, all the ndiswrapper and other proprietary stuff will be included ?
[10:53] <Oli````> Flannel ikonia:  Installed: 3.0~rc1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.1
[10:53] <ikonia> Oli````: about in mine says 3.0 doesn't say rc1 or 2
[10:53] <ubuntu__> I just need someon to help me so my Ubuntu installation is chooseable in the Boot-Up screen...N e one know how?
[10:54] <ubuntu__> I
[10:54] <ikonia> Oli````: thats the same one on my machine, doesn't say RC2
[10:54] <ubuntu__> It's Ubuntu 32bit  Hardy 8.04
[10:54] <ubuntu__> LTS
[10:54] <ikonia> ubuntu__: yes
[10:54] <jeed> The-Seiman, it will copy over your kernel config your running now, but 3rd party stuff on top such as nvidia drivers, madwifi etc will have to be compiled again, against the new kernel sources, so they function
[10:54] <Oli````> ikonia: =S not sure what's happened there then.. I can't even get it to load up through -ProfileManager now
[10:54] <ubuntu__> ikonia: can you help me get my Ubuntu in the boot menu so I can boot it?
[10:54] <jimcooncat_> bain: good deal! I was switching dns all the time until I found a set that worked for me.
[10:55] <ikonia> ubuntu__: how did you install ubuntu ?
[10:55] <tech0007> ubuntu__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=740221
[10:55] <The-Seiman> jeed, okay thank you :-)
[10:55] <ikonia> Oli````: I'm worried you have other repo's/packages on your machine as mine has that package and says nothing about RC2
[10:55] <jeed> The-Seiman, no problem
[10:55] <ubuntu__> ikonia: I booted on the LiveCD then just installed it, followed all directions as required, when it asked to reboot or remain on lIve session CD, I pick reboot and its not there
[10:55] <sparky_> Can anyone help me get Java running please? :/
[10:55] <b33r_> Hello when I'm trying to configure my eth0 I'm getting this error: Check that it is correctly typed and that it is correctly supported by your system
[10:55] <ikonia> ubuntu__: what do you see ?
[10:55] <ndf> would anyone know why 'Login Screen' in Control Centre only opens for half a second then disappears? (it's not a gksu problem, it asks for root pw and loads up, but then goes after half a second)
[10:56] <jeed> sparky_, whats your java problem?
[10:56] <ubuntu__> ikonia: I am now the live CD....
[10:56] <Flynsarmy> Why did Firefox 3 RC1 just become available on apt today when it's been available on the web for like a month and rc2 has been out for days?
[10:56] <ikonia> ubuntu__: what do you see when you try to boot
[10:56] <ubuntu__> ikonia: I see Windows Vista loader only
[10:56] <sparky_> jeed, it refused to work.
[10:56] <MonsieurAnderson> Hello :)
[10:56] <ikonia> ubuntu__: ok, so either grub didn't install, or it installed to the wrong disk
[10:56] <ikonia> ubuntu__: how many physical disks to you have ?
[10:56] <magnetron> MonsieurAnderson: hi
[10:56] <jeed> sparky_, gunna need a little more info there buddy, is it installed and not working on firefox or?
[10:56] <icqnumber> ikonia, hi, i have asked a question about places menu and filesystem, and my question is only one there unanswered for about two week, looks like nobody has a clue...
[10:56] <sparky_> I tried reinstalling some package, and now whenever I load a page with a java template, the web browser just crashes
[10:56] <MonsieurAnderson> Is this a big, big, enormeous fake/troll ? http://www.shelleytherepublican.com/the-definitive-review-of-ubuntu-linux-804-hardy-heron
[10:56] <ubuntu__> ikonia: I have 2 Hard Drives, 3 partitions
[10:56] <sparky_> And yes, on
[10:56] <sparky_> And yes, on FireFox
[10:57] <ikonia> icqnumber: what are you looking for ?
[10:57] <jeed> sparky_, does java show up in about:plugins ? (put that in your firefox url bar)
[10:57] <ikonia> ubuntu__: ok - can you tell your motherboard to boot from the other hard disk ?
[10:57] <sparky_> sun-java6-jre is already installed
[10:57] <magnetron> MonsieurAnderson: this channel is mainly for support, plz join #ubuntu-offtopic and we'll discuss the review there
[10:57] <ubuntu__> ikonia: it is booting from the correct hard disk already
[10:57] <soundray> AlexW: swapping slots fixed it?
[10:57] <MonsieurAnderson> Ok, I understand :)
[10:57] <ikonia> ubuntu__: thas not what I asked, can you change your motherboard to boot from the other hard disk ?
[10:57] <ndf> would anyone know why 'Login Screen' in Control Centre only opens for half a second then disappears? (it's not a gksu problem, it asks for root pw and loads up, but then goes after half a second)
[10:58] <sparky_> jeed,  if it's libgcjwebplugin.so, then yes
[10:58] <icqnumber> ikonia, ooh you do not remember any more? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+question/35338
[10:58] <ubuntu__> ikonia: yes I can change it to boot from the other hard disk
[10:58] <ikonia> icqnumber: I remember the question, but what exactly are you looking for ?
[10:58] <sparky_> But that's the only Java one I have
[10:58] <ikonia> ubuntu__: can you please ask it to boot from the other disk
[10:58] <ubuntu__> ikonia: though I think it will just say insert system disc, as no OS is installed on the other disk
[10:58] <AlexW> soundray, I think the issue is, I took out my HDTV card to put it in, because i was to lazy to remove the back plate, and I think ubuntu already thought this port was assigned
[10:58] <hanak> anyone know how i can make a network map in ubuntu?
[10:59] <ikonia> ubuntu__: you have a choice - you can listen to the advice/debugging I'm giving - or not, if you do'nt want to listen - thats fine
[10:59] <jeed> sparky_, there should be more plugins than that for good old java, have you got the package sun-java6-plugin installed?
[10:59] <ubuntu__> ikonia: ok I will try that, and hope that it works...if not i will boot LiveCD and come back...Will you still be here?
[10:59] <sparky_> jeed,  I don't, I can't install it
[10:59] <Flynsarmy> icqnumber: it's satire
[10:59] <sidis405> hello guys
[10:59] <ikonia> ubuntu__: yes, I'm not going anywhere
[10:59] <ubuntu__> ikonia: I chose very much to listen to your advice, I am as of now going to try it.
[10:59] <Flynsarmy> icqnumber: read the comments
[10:59] <icqnumber> ikonia, i want to restore my filesystem item in places menu for beginning, and want to know how to add/remove this hard drive items!!!!!
[10:59] <jeed> sparky_, why cant you install it?
[10:59] <ikonia> ubuntu__: please pay attention to any errors or warnings you get
[10:59] <b33r_> Hello when I'm trying to configure my eth0 I'm getting this error: Check that it is correctly typed and that it is correctly supported by your system, can anyone help?? :S
[10:59] <ubuntu__> ikonia: okay I will, brb soon
[10:59] <ubuntu__> ikonia: thank you
[11:00] <sparky_> Package sun-java6-plugin is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:00] <sparky_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:00] <sparky_> is only available from another source
[11:00] <soundray> ndf: from a terminal, run 'gksudo gdmsetup' -- does this work? If not, does it report an error in the terminal?
[11:00] <icqnumber> Flynsarmy, what are you talking about?
[11:00] <ac3> how do other applications access the gnome keyring? like networkmanager?
[11:00] <sparky_> jeed,  that's what it says when I try to install it
[11:00] <icqnumber> Flynsarmy, what is satire?
[11:00] <sidis405> i had a an issue with evolution. might be even the silliest thing in the world, but it's been busting my head for hours.
[11:00] <Flynsarmy> icqnumber: Gah sorry, got you mixed up with ﻿MonsieurAnderson
[11:00] <ndf> soundray: it does the same thing, the window appears for half a second then goes
[11:00] <ndf> no error
[11:01] <soundray> sparky_: it's not available for your architecture
[11:01] <sidis405> it's about the read-only calendar.
[11:01] <sparky_> soundray, so is there any way to get Java to work then? :/
[11:01] <jeed> soundray, if he can hava java he can have the plugin ;)
[11:01] <sidis405> anyone feel like helping?
[11:01] <sparky_> And what architecture IS it available?
[11:01] <sparky_> +on
[11:01] <icqnumber> Flynsarmy, okay nevermind then
[11:02] <jeed> sparky_, your on AMD64/64-bit? or 32-bit?
[11:02] <soundray> sparky_: as far as I know, there isn't currently a solution, except installing a 32bit version of firefox
[11:02] <sparky_> 64
[11:02] <soundray> !flash64 | sparky_
[11:02] <jeed> ah
[11:02] <jeed> yup you'll need to do extra for 64-bit
[11:02] <jeed> its the price you pay
[11:02] <IndyGunFreak> 64bit is super awesome.. lol.. you have to install a 32bit browser to watch youtube.
[11:03] <NineTeen67Comet> Does anyone have a good suggestion of apps for my 6yr old? He get's pretty addicted to his computer (Ubuntu 8.04) mainly Torcs, Planetpenguin racer, tuxkart and several others .. I need to not only control his access to the www (he does Playhouse disney and others) and time his computer login. Help?
[11:03] <soundray> jeed: it's the price we pay for Sun not compiling a plugin for 64 bit
[11:03] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: no, you don't
[11:03] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: flash works fine in 64
[11:03] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: well, its good to know flash is working now..
[11:03] <bz0b> hey guys does anyone here use ipw3945?
[11:03] <sparky_> Bah, it errors when installing the 32 version :/
[11:03] <jeed> soundray, commercial people hate 64-bit
[11:04] <PetoKraus> hello, i am gentoo user, helping out a guy with ubuntu - is there a way how to compile a kernel? i mean, specific?
[11:04] <jeed> you need the plugin wrapper for flash, pretty trivial install
[11:04] <sparky_> soundray, would I be better off installing the 32 bit on my computer, or staying with the 64?
[11:04] <PetoKraus> for ubuntu? cause gentoo does it differently... thanks
[11:04] <soundray> sparky_: you need to follow the instructions on the flash64 link
[11:04] <ndf> soundray: it does the same thing, the window appears for half a second then goes
[11:04] <ndf> no error
[11:04] <sparky_> soundray,  I did, but it still errored
[11:04] <bz0b> i seem to have a problem when attempting to change my mac adress on my wifi card then trying to connect back to the network does anyone know why?
[11:04] <soundray> jeed: no, they don't. Sun love their own 64bit architecture
[11:05] <NineTeen67Comet> PetoKraus: Make sure build-essential has been installed, then google "Compile Ubuntu Kernel" and it should pop you up ..
[11:05] <sparky_> But i mean generally speaking, is it better to stick with the 64 or the 32?
[11:05] <jeed> yeah but like they are gunna give in to someone who isnt gunna make them money
[11:05] <soundray> ndf: you could run 'sudo strace gdmsetup', see if you can make sense of the output
[11:05] <jeed> sparky_, i have a 64-bit compatible pc but i use 32, its less hassle all round
[11:05] <soundray> ndf: it'll probably tell you what it fails on
[11:05] <NineTeen67Comet> PetoKraus: How is Gentoo doing? I used it exclusively until I got lazy .. :) .. I miss it though ..
[11:05] <icqnumber> soundray, can you please take a look at the /msg i wrote to you :)
[11:05] <PetoKraus> NineTeen67Comet: i know how to compile kernel, but, i usually do it without initramd (gentoo way).
[11:05] <ikonia> icqnumber: have you tried logging a specific request to gnome for the correct gconf parameter ?
[11:05] <simi> hi, i used pysdm to make my fat patition to be mounted at boot time, it worked but i can only read files from it, i tried from dolphin to give me permisions to write but it does not work, can i mount the partition directly with write permisions? i seen in /etc/fstab that the floppy has a rw flag, my partition has only a default flag
[11:05] <sparky_> Ah ok, that's what I figured.  Well thank you
[11:06] <soundray> !pm | icqnumber
[11:06] <jeed> sparky_, no problem
[11:06] <ndf> soundray: you ecpect me to read about 1,000 pages of info?!
[11:06] <ndf> *expect
[11:06] <soundray> ndf: it's your choice
[11:06] <NineTeen67Comet> PetoKraus: With Ubuntu out of the box it's lacking the tools needed to compile. sudo aptitude install build-essential (might have misspelled it) .. contains the items needed to compile.
[11:07] <PetoKraus> NineTeen67Comet: i was debian user, never used ubuntu, but i got dissatisfied with constant overwriting of your confs - like, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:07] <soundray> ndf: hint: what you're looking for is probably at the end of this output
[11:07] <icqnumber> soundray, i have asked it many many times here, so you was my last chance, because i assume, that you knows a lot...
[11:07] <PetoKraus> NineTeen67Comet: already apt-got.
[11:07] <simi> here is my /etc/fstab http://pastebin.com/mf80f130 i have kubuntu hardy
[11:07] <desinex> 1000 zebras on a ferry!!  Yes!!
[11:07] <PetoKraus> NineTeen67Comet: gentoo at least warns you when it overwrites your configs :)
[11:07] <ndf> soundray: lots of missing thumbnail pngs and a segmentation fault
[11:08] <soundray> ndf: do you get segfaults with any other programs?
[11:08] <icqnumber> ikonia, well, first of all, what makes you so sure that it must be stored in gconf?
[11:08] <goran> hi
[11:08] <ndf> soundray: not that i know of
[11:08] <Kira> With Hardy desktop, how do I make it so that only root has the right to shutdown/restart/suspend the computer?
[11:08] <goran> i just installed ubuntu 8.04 and and cannot connect to my home wireless network
[11:09] <NineTeen67Comet> PetoKraus: what was it in Gentoo .. um .. etc-config or something? I miss it, it was nice, but my server's got really hard to keep up .. I'm no good at compiling kernels in Ubuntu, but you should be able to find it via Google or the Ubuntuforums.org site ..
[11:09] <soundray> ndf: try a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm' and retry gksudo gdmsetup
[11:09] <jeed> etc-update, NineTeen67Comet
[11:09] <ikonia> icqnumber: resonable deduction
[11:09] <rdz> TecnoBrat, if i recall correctly, we yesterday talked about a problem regarding windows loader. the problem arised, because i added a new partition before the windows partition. you suggested to repair the bootloader using the windows cd. just for your information: i am sure, it would have worked well, but it wasn't actually necessary, i just needed to edit the boot.ini file and increment all the partition numbers by 1.
[11:09] <icqnumber> ikonia, and even if it is, i do not know how to do that
[11:09] <goran> i have atheros
[11:09] <ndf> ok
[11:09] <PetoKraus> NineTeen67Comet: etc-update, yeah :) i found the command, it's make-kpkg...
[11:09] <ikonia> icqnumber: don't know how to do what ?
[11:09] <goran> and nm-applet can see networks but can't connect
[11:09] <freshy> morning
[11:09] <goran> can any1 help?
[11:09] <goran> :)
[11:09] <PetoKraus> NineTeen67Comet: it's actually the same as debian way. Though init ramdisks suck, it's useless hassle, in my opinion...
[11:09] <icqnumber> ikonia, no i am relative new new
[11:10] <ikonia> icqnumber: you don't know how to do what ?
[11:10] <icqnumber> ikonia, no, i do not know
[11:10] <ndf> soundray: sudo didnt ask for pass and this happened:
[11:10] <ndf> :~$ sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm
[11:10] <soundray> icqnumber: give ikonia that link, please
[11:10] <ndf> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:10] <ndf> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:10] <FloodBot3> ndf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:10] <NineTeen67Comet> goran: Wireless no matter how much work they put into it, seems to have issues (Not the fault of the Distribution, but the hardware makers) .. the way I usually get it working is google my brains out, a lot of nano use and crossing my fingers ..
[11:10] <jeed> ndf, close synaptic
[11:10] <icqnumber> soundray, he have seen it allready
[11:10] <ndf> oh lol
[11:10] <ndf> cant atm
[11:11] <freshy> has anyone go pyScrabble to work on hardy?
[11:11] <ndf> its updating
[11:11] <rdz> hi all. how can import all my accounts from my evolution on dapper to the new evolution on hardy?
[11:11] <phantomas> how can i join subtitles to a mpg ?
[11:11] <jimcooncat> PetoKraus: I believe init ramdisks are useful if you use lvm for root
[11:11] <icqnumber> soundray, are you talking about this question on launchpad, i have asked?
[11:11] <timsom> why are you want only the root have the right to shutdown the computer ,are there anyone have no necessary
[11:11] <NineTeen67Comet> PetoKraus: I'll have to try to compile a Kernel in *buntu some day .. I'm hoping after classes this semester I can install Gentoo on one of my many boxes and get back to my roots ..
[11:11] <jeed> NineTeen67Comet, i saw a laptop that had OOTB ubuntu wireless 100% working, it was a good few mins :)
[11:11] <goran> NineTeen67Comet, well i'm googling whole morning :D anyway it worked on debian with ndiswrapper, but ubuntu recognized ath_pci drivers and i'm curious why it doesnt work
[11:11] <icqnumber> soundray, he was the first one i have asked about it :-)
[11:11] <PetoKraus> NineTeen67Comet: well, i had custom kernel in debian, along with custom scripts - then apt-get dist-upgrade smashed it all
[11:11] <rdz> phantomas, what format are those subtitles using?
[11:11] <goran> what does this "roaming" mean in network configuration?
[11:11] <IndyGunFreak> goran: whats your wireless device?
[11:12] <goran> atheros
[11:12] <gordonjcp> ipw2200 ftw
[11:12] <goran> 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[11:12] <PetoKraus> goran: if you see the networks
[11:12] <PetoKraus> it's usually the wpa_supplicant causing you trouble
[11:12] <goran> iwlist ath0 scan works
[11:12] <icqnumber> soundray, or better, he was the first one who has replyed on my question...
[11:12] <NineTeen67Comet> It is a crap shoot for me if Wifi works. This MBP will have nothing to do with wireless.. but my HP and Dell notebooks took right off ..
[11:12] <IndyGunFreak> goran: thats why.... the device is misdetected by Ubuntu.. its actually AR5006EG
[11:12] <NineTeen67Comet> goran: I'm always fighting wifi with friends computers I talk into *nix .. lol .. some even have the same card .. it's NUTS .. :)
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> goran: hang on a sec, i have some links for that device
[11:13] <PetoKraus> intel cards are GOOD.
[11:13] <phantomas> rdz: its srt
[11:13] <goran> so i should remove wpa_supplicant?
[11:13] <PetoKraus> no
[11:13] <Oli````> ikonia: I reinstalled firefox and moved the ~/.mozilla to generate a new one and here's the result (all sorts of broken): http://i.thepcspy.com/oli/firefoxhelp.jpg
[11:13] <jeed> broadcom seem to have awesome wireless support these days
[11:13] <soundray> icqnumber: still, if he asks you what you need help with, you shouldn't reply "yes, I need help". That's if you want to be taken seriously
[11:13] <goran> IndyGunFreak, its not just misdetection by ubuntu, debian detected same card
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> jeed: now.. it used to be pretty rough.
[11:13] <PetoKraus> jeed: anything based on mac80211 is good ;)
[11:13] <The-Seiman> jeed, well i don't find the /proc/config.gz but i'ill use /boot/config-`uname -r` anyway .
[11:13] <NineTeen67Comet> Perlboy: apt-get is satan . aptitude is my buddy (unless I'm removing, then back to apt-get cuz aptitude will plain take it all if it didn't install it .. full-upgrade is a good command for upgrades too .. or safe-upgrade if you are spooked ..
[11:13] <IndyGunFreak> goran: well, i didn't say it was just ubuntu, i'm just familiar w/ the problem w/ ubuntu.
[11:13] <timsom> i want to know how to install the drive for SIS650
[11:14] <jeed> The-Seiman, thats gay, use the /boot :)
[11:14] <goran> ok ok
[11:14] <goran> so what should i do?
[11:14] <IndyGunFreak> goran: have you searched the forums on this?.. there's several fixes
[11:14] <PetoKraus> NineTeen67Comet: what you don't like about apt-get?!?
[11:14] <timsom> is there anyone who do this before
[11:14] <dakira> hi.. how can i figure out which process opened a specific port?
[11:14] <jeed> IndyGunFreak, i put ubuntu on a broadcom chip laptop and it was OOTB working
[11:14] <NineTeen67Comet> PetoKraus:
[11:14] <timsom> please help me
[11:14] <ikonia> icqnumber: I have found the answer, the places menu is controlled from .gtk-bookmarks directory
[11:14] <jeed> so i suppose it is good these days
[11:14] <NineTeen67Comet> PetoKraus: apt-get seems to mess stuff up for me more than aptitude ..
[11:14] <goran> IndyGunFreak, yes...  but it is for 5007 chipset
[11:14] <ikonia> Oli````: I'm not convinvced thats come from the ubuntu repos
[11:14] <goran> i dont know if my chipset is 5007
[11:14] <soundray> timsom: do you have gnome running?
[11:14] <rdz> phantomas, afaik, mplayer can display subtitles from srt files. probably you can use mplayer or mencoder to create a new file, where picture and subtitles are joined
[11:14] <PetoKraus> NineTeen67Comet: that's weird. because aptitude USES apt-get.
[11:14] <jeed> PetoKraus, emerge is better :)
[11:14] <ikonia> Oli````: I cannot find a firefox release 2 package
[11:14] <timsom> yes
[11:15] <rdz> phantomas, but for details, you might want to ask #mplayer (i am no expert in this field)
[11:15] <IndyGunFreak> goran: and if you read the threads you searched, the 242x is misdetected 99% of the time, its ar5006EG(which in gutsy, was misdetected as Ar6007)
[11:15] <m1r> soundray: many tnx m8, seems that *-16 was problem , everything works ok now
[11:15] <icqnumber> ikonia, no no , i know that, it is for for your custom folders only
[11:15] <PetoKraus> jeed: well, it's different. I don't like emerge very much either...
[11:15] <The-Seiman> jeed, hmm... one more question, ndiswrapper and acer_acpi are installed using .deb packages
[11:15] <timsom> but we i play game like war III ,it work very slow
[11:15] <Oli````> ikonia: it's not - it's definitely the rc1 package. It could well be RC1 just loading the RC2 splash page
[11:15] <The-Seiman> jeed, so do I need to reinstall them in the new kernel ?
[11:15] <soundray> m1r: no, -16 wasn't the problem -- but removing it made your menu.lst accessible to update-grub again
[11:15] <timsom> but there is no this problem in the Windows XP
[11:15] <NineTeen67Comet> PetoKraus: especially when removing things I installed with aptitude .. aptitude seems to keep an eye on dependancies better when it is used for installation .. emerge however is still my fave ..lol
[11:15] <jeed> PetoKraus, masking can get annoying but nothing beats a good old source compile automated
[11:15] <goran> so regular madwifi that comes with ubuntu will not work?
[11:16]  * NineTeen67Comet port is nice too , but FBSD messes with my head on how it slices and partitions ..
[11:16] <IndyGunFreak> goran: i'm using madwifi right now..
[11:16] <icqnumber> ikonia, like pictures, videos, and so one, the hard drivers items are stored somethere else
[11:16] <PetoKraus> jeed: it's quite slow to be honest. Source compiling is great thing to do, ofc, but writing it in python...
[11:16] <ikonia> Oli````: why is mine not loading that splash page
[11:16] <jeed> The-Seiman, you should be ok with stuff like ndiswrapper
[11:16] <soundray> timsom: which driver are you currently using?
[11:16] <ikonia> Oli````: why does mine not say "release candidate 2" in the top right
[11:16] <The-Seiman> jeed, okay thanks :-)
[11:16] <m1r> soundray: strange problem , but glad u helped me sort it out , tnx a lot
[11:16] <jeed> PetoKraus, python is faster than quite a few languages
[11:16] <goran> so what should i do? :) compile madwifi from source or smth else?
[11:16] <ikonia> icqnumber: I'll go back to reading the docs (which you should be doing - not me)
[11:16] <PetoKraus> jeed: that's true, but not than C/C++
[11:16] <timsom> this is one SIS650
[11:16] <jeed> PetoKraus, we could go all the way and do it in ASM
[11:17] <NineTeen67Comet> Off to beat my children .. best of luck goran  and hope you get the kernel figured out PetoKraus
[11:17] <icqnumber> ikonia, i was reading them allready on gnomes docs
[11:17] <timsom> integration
[11:17] <soundray> timsom: please use my nick when you reply. Which *driver* are you using (I'm not asking about the card)
[11:17] <Oli````> ikonia: it only loads on first load and that "(Release Candidate 2)" text is a page title set through HTML. Move your ~/.mozilla dir to ~/.mozilla2 and restart firefox
[11:17] <PetoKraus> jeed: and there are other annoying things... toolsets for emerge are scattered among several packages. apt-* provides you convenient interface to everything... but that's OT
[11:17] <IndyGunFreak> goran: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766529
[11:17] <headache> I get this error when trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg, FATAL: Error inserting battery
[11:18] <PetoKraus> i'll go as well. bye.
[11:18] <goran> ok, so is my card ar5007 or ar5006?
[11:18] <IndyGunFreak> goran: what model is your laptop
[11:18] <icqnumber> ikonia, and at first look, it seems that some items like: Desktop, all hard dirves pointers, are really hided...
[11:18] <ikonia> Oli````: same thing
[11:19] <timsom> soundray: OK ,no when i install ubuntu ,i have done nothing with driver
[11:19] <goran> asus f3tc
[11:19] <Oli````> ikonia: you mean you get the RC2 page?
[11:19] <ikonia> Oli````: no I don't
[11:19] <ikonia> Oli````: mozilla dir moved, firefox restarted
[11:19] <soundray> timsom: are you on Ubuntu hardy?
[11:19] <headache> I get this error when trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg, FATAL: Error inserting battery, anyone know how to fix it?
[11:19] <IndyGunFreak> goran: if the instructiosn you've found for the 5007 aren't working, its probably a 5006
[11:20] <icqnumber> soundray, thank you for the hint, but i guess you have misunderstood that
[11:20] <timsom> soundray: yes
[11:20] <IndyGunFreak> goran: are you using 32bit or 64bit?
[11:20] <Oli````> ikonia: well I'm really confused but thenk you for testing. Time to nuke everything with firefox or mozilla in its name
[11:20] <goran> but it should be already working since it could scan?
[11:20] <timsom> soundray: right now
[11:20] <goran> i'm using 32bit
[11:20] <goran> (generic kernel)
[11:20] <ikonia> Oli````: really doesn't look like a hardy package
[11:21] <lejon> someone having probs with ath wifi card?
[11:21] <IndyGunFreak> goran: you would think so.., but i had the same issues, i could see networks, but couldn't hook on to any of them.
[11:21] <goran> lejon, yep
[11:21] <Oli````> ikonia: good point. I'll disable backports too
[11:21] <goran> hm
[11:21] <timsom> sourndray: do you what the problem .
[11:21] <goran> ok
[11:21] <lejon> goran, you know which card it is or which chipset it is?
[11:21] <goran> 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[11:21] <goran> apparently it is ar5007
[11:21] <LimCore> Flannel: ikonia:  I see no messages in syslog,  but it would seem that both ntpdate and ntpd fail to adjust small time offsets - using adjtime instead of settimeofday()   perhaps its a kerenl/driver/mobo bug related to adjtime then?  I added more info to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/238805  does it look like a bug?
[11:22] <ikonia> LimCore: stop making random comments
[11:22] <lejon> goran let me check mine, I have a atheros 5005G and it has a 243x or 242xchipset dont remember :P
[11:22] <soundray> icqnumber: no, I haven't. You have misunderstood ikonia. But if I can't convince you that you have, I can't help to clear it up.
[11:22] <LimCore> ikonia: debugging the problem is random comment?
[11:22] <headache> I get this error when trying to reconfigure xserver-xorg, FATAL: Error inserting battery, anyone know how to fix it?
[11:23] <lejon> ah I had a AR2413 chipset, but goran, have you tried the madwifi drivers?
[11:23] <soundray> LimCore: reporting a bug before you've understood the basics of your problem is trolling.
[11:23] <goran> lejon, well drivers came with ubuntu
[11:23] <lejon> otherwise I before found a atheros page with linux drivers, brb and ill try to find it again
[11:23] <goran> and i can scan
[11:23] <goran> but i cannot connect to any network
[11:23] <goran> i get this when i try ifup: wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801
[11:23] <LimCore> soundray: I understood the problem well enough to see what causes the bug.  Unless you can point some mistake in this reasoning?
[11:24] <lejon> goran, try to download the madwifi drivers and try them?
[11:24] <goran> and getting nothing from dhcp :|
[11:24] <goran> nupe
[11:24] <goran> nope*
[11:24] <timsom> are you in
[11:24] <soundray> LimCore: the mistake in this reasoning is that there is no bug.
[11:24] <goran> i'm going to try that now
[11:24] <goran> brb
[11:24] <bazhang> goran, what does ifconfig say
[11:24] <ikonia> LimCore: your testing of ntpdate shows the ntpdate can deal with short random updates
[11:25] <Taco> Ask that, what input method top right corner " EN " is?
[11:25] <goran> bazhang, http://debian.pastebin.org/42805
[11:25] <soundray> timsom: could you put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log on http://paste.ubuntu.com pls
[11:25] <Nikunj93> azureus giving an error can anybody help?
[11:25] <LimCore> ikonia: what do you get if you run this script  are the drifts < 0.1 sec after first iteration,  or are they raising to 0.5 and then jumoing to 0.1 like they do for me?
[11:25] <bazhang> goran, what does sudo dhclient wifi0 return
[11:26] <icqnumber> soundray, well the shorter way was to make it clear is that you have no answer to my question and not because my question was bad...
[11:26] <ikonia> LimCore: running your test now
[11:27] <timsom> soundray: OK wait for a moment
[11:27] <soundray> Taco: when you click on it, it switches to another input method, for example Chinese
[11:27] <bazhang> icqnumber, what question
[11:27] <soundray> icqnumber: I never said your question was bad, and I made it clear that I don't know the answer.
[11:28] <goran> bazhang, http://debian.pastebin.org/42806
[11:28] <ndf> does 'roaming mode' in wireless networking mean that it will switch automatically to better signal quality networks if they are open?
[11:28] <tsudot> what does 'File to patch:' mean?
[11:28] <ikonia> LimCore: my off set never voes above 0.003580
[11:28] <lejon> goran, http://www.atheros.cz/ I found the site again
[11:28] <ikonia> LimCore: in fact just got 0.000552
[11:28] <bazhang> goran, that is the whole output?
[11:28] <goran_> bazhang, http://debian.pastebin.org/42806
[11:28] <lejon> goran, http://www.atheros.cz/ I found the site again
[11:29] <goran_> yes
[11:29] <ikonia> LimCore: does that give you confidence it's working ?
[11:29] <Taco> soundray:The regret, I said am the input method, the example: gcin
[11:29] <soundray> icqnumber: I was trying to clear up something else, something that you had misunderstood, probably due to the fact that you're not a native English speaker. If you want to, we can clear this up in German by pm. I'd appreciate it, though, if you didn't question my helping in public.
[11:30] <LimCore> ikonia: what is your drift if you dont run ntpdate nor ntp?
[11:30] <goran_> i have to reboot
[11:30] <goran_> brb
[11:30] <ikonia> soundray: if you can do this in german, thank danke
[11:30] <ikonia> LimCore: very small
[11:30] <bazhang> icqnumber, is this hardy? there is no such item in my places menu
[11:30] <ikonia> LimCore: just got an 0.00859
[11:30] <ndf> does 'roaming mode' in wireless networking mean that it will switch automatically to better signal quality networks if they are open?
[11:30] <lejon> ndf as far as I know, yes
[11:30] <ikonia> bazhang: thats his problem
[11:30] <icqnumber> soundray, i just do not want to flood asking my long question every time, that is why  i have pm'ed you
[11:30] <timsom> soundray: I have paste the file in http://paste.ubuntu.com/19012/
[11:31] <ndf> lejon: ok thanks
[11:31] <LimCore> ikonia: if you have a small drift, below 0.5 sec, and run ntpdate, and then run ntpdate again right after, then you see that former ntpdate run synchronzied the clock right?
[11:31] <bazhang> ikonia, thanks :)
[11:31] <lejon> ndf because roaming means that you just connect to the best available network where you are atm, even if you move
[11:31] <ndf> ok
[11:31] <icqnumber> bazhang, the item witch points you to /
[11:31] <ndf> i'm turning it off
[11:31] <ikonia> LimCore: one moment, just sleeping 20
[11:31] <lejon> ndf, np
[11:31] <ndf> i keep getting shoved off my network and connected to 'unknown' with real slow rates
[11:31] <ikonia> LimCore: without ntp/ntpd date drift was 0.002663
[11:32] <bazhang> icqnumber, it is called 'Computer' now
[11:32] <lejon> ndf well, you have roaming enabled or have you configured ur interface?
[11:32] <ikonia> LimCore: yes, the the more frequent I run ntpdate the less the drift
[11:32] <ikonia> LimCore: (within reason of course)
[11:32] <icqnumber> bazhang, computer shows you all dirves, and not /
[11:33] <soundray> timsom: look at line 299: you are already using the SIS driver. It may not support 3D acceleration as the Windows driver -- this is because the Linux driver has been written by volunteers who had no internal specifications of the SIS chipset.
[11:33] <bazhang> icqnumber, you are on hardy? the computer shows all drives and filesystem
[11:33] <LimCore> ikonia: exacly. And for me, the drift grows up to 0.5 second no matter how often I call ntpdate, then jumps to almost 0
[11:34] <ikonia> LimCore: ok, so your bios motherboard is probably dyning
[11:34] <ikonia> LimCore: as in the battery
[11:34] <icqnumber> bazhang, i know, take a look at you nautilus places menu left in nautilus window
[11:34] <ikonia> LimCore: therefore your machine is drifting quickly
[11:34] <LimCore> ikonia: right
[11:34] <ikonia> LimCore: so whats the problem ?
[11:34] <LimCore> ikonia: but then, why drifts < 0.5 sec are not fixed, and > 0.5 are?
[11:34] <soundray> ndf: is gdmsetup working now?
[11:34] <ikonia> LimCore: what do you mean not fixed ?
[11:35] <timsom> soundray: oh,do i change the drive for SIS? for a support 3D acceleration
[11:35] <icqnumber> soundray, why in german by the way
[11:35] <ikonia> LimCore: in the bug report you've filed you have ofsets of bellow and above half a second being fixed ?
[11:35] <polygon89> hello, quick question, which file do i edit to have specified modules start on boot?
[11:35] <LimCore> ikonia: drift grows despite running ntpdate. untill it reaches 0.5, then it jumps to 0
[11:35] <soundray> icqnumber: I was under the impression that you are a German speaker.
[11:36] <ikonia> LimCore: ntpd sets the date at that second, if your motherboard battery is dying it's going to drift a lot
[11:36] <ikonia> LimCore: I'm sorry, but I'm failing to see the problem
[11:36] <brandan_> Hello
[11:36] <soundray> timsom: you are already using the best driver available.
[11:36] <milosz> great, Fx is broken
[11:36] <brandan_> What can I type into my Terminal to get my nVidia settings to come up?
[11:36] <LimCore> ikonia: drifts below 0.5 second are not fixed, this is the problem
[11:36] <milosz> i can't open any URL
[11:36] <ikonia> LimCore: in the bug report you have posted you have offsets of above 0.5 seconds and bellow 0.5 secodns both behing adjusted
[11:36] <MacFreak> Can anyone gimme mac Download links?
[11:36] <Taco> timsom:You are must use the 3D special effect?
[11:36] <ikonia> LimCore: 12:01:08 ntpdate[6674]: adjust time server 217.153.128.243 offset 0.298344 sec
[11:36] <icqnumber> soundray, what make you think so
[11:37] <ikonia> LimCore: thats bellow 0.5 and it's fixed
[11:37] <microwaver> Where does the 'command' stand to start gnome-terminal?
[11:37] <ndf> lejon: i turned it off but now i can't see signal strength or anything in the notification area tray thing, because it's just an icon now that says 'manual configuration'
[11:37] <brandan_> I need to get a better resolution
[11:37] <brandan_> How do I open my nVidia options menu?
[11:37] <ndf> is there a way i can have it on, but without it auto switching
[11:37] <ndf> ?
[11:37] <lejon> ndf, have you manually configured ur interface now or just turned it of roaming?
[11:37] <LimCore> ikonia: the offset which you just pasted is not fixed, because the next call to ntpdate shows even bigger offset, instead of smaller
[11:37] <timsom> soundray: yes
[11:38] <soundray> icqnumber: if I was wrong, just forget it. In fact, let's drop this entire fruitless offtopic conversation
[11:38] <larsivi> "grep -r foo *" fails if applied in a dir with directories with spaces in them (at least that seems to be the reason) - any way to get around that?
[11:38] <Vixus> Hey, I'm trying to compile KGuitar.. getting this error on ./configure -  error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (library qt-mt) not found. I've installed libqt4-dev and libqt3-compat-headers so what more do I need?
[11:38] <ikonia> LimCore: in 20 seconds the offset could have re-occured, it's not set in stone how much it drifts
[11:38] <brandan_> What do I type into my Terminal for the  nVidia Menu?
[11:39] <ikonia> LimCore: how about deal with fixing the problem - the battery on your motherboard looks like it's dying
[11:39] <polygon89> how do i make certain kernel modules start on boot?
[11:39] <lejon> Vixus, it says that it cant find library gt-mt, try to search for that i synaptics/apt-cache and see if its installed or not?
[11:39] <ikonia> LimCore:  (thats only an assumption)
[11:39] <soundray> Vixus: is there any reason why you aren't using the Ubuntu version from the repositories?
[11:39] <ndf> Vixus: clearly qt-mt
[11:39] <Vixus> soundray, old.
[11:39] <soundray> !info kguitar | Vixus
[11:39] <microwaver> Where does the 'command' stand to start gnome-terminal?
[11:39] <brandan_> ikonia: do you know what it is you type into the Terminal so your nVidia window comes up?
[11:39] <avro> !list
[11:39] <soundray> Vixus: so what?
[11:40] <LimCore> ikonia: ok this is better example: http://codepad.org/pMDclI7c   only offsets above 0.5 second seem to be ACTUALLY fixed (that is, the next call to ntpdate right after shows almost 0 drift) is this correct?
[11:40] <ikonia> LimCore: I do see what your saying in that the offsets grow and then appear to reset at 0.5 seconds, but how long is that test run for
[11:40] <Vixus> There is no package qt-mt anyway.
[11:40] <Taco> Ask everybody, has is not php5 can make the homepage the software?
[11:40] <ikonia> brandan_: 1.) why are you asking me 2.) what nvidia window ?
[11:40] <Vixus> Right, I'm trying libqt3-mt-dev..
[11:40] <ndf> ikonia: the nv drivers also have a config tool
[11:41] <brandan_> ikonia: there was a code I typed once to get my nvidia xconfig screen to come up, i forget what it was
[11:41] <timsom> soundray: is the only way to change this situation for me is to change a nvidia card
[11:41] <ndf> i think that's what he's talking about
[11:41] <jeed> brandan_, nvidia-settings?
[11:41] <LimCore> brandan_: do you mean nvidia-settings
[11:41] <brandan_> jeed: yes
[11:41] <ndf> brandan, if you have nv xconfig installed there should be an icon in you control centre
[11:41] <Ontolog> Hello, Ubuntu recently installed Firefox 3.0 which doesn't work with the Venkman Debugger plugin. I want to roll back to Firefox 3.0b2. Can anyone tell me how to do this?
[11:41] <soundray> timsom: no, you could get an ATI card, too
[11:41] <ndf> *your
[11:41] <LimCore> brandan_: try this:  type in  nvidia  and press and hold TAB key to see a list
[11:41] <soundray> ndf: is gdmsetup working now?
[11:41] <icqnumber> bazhang, so do you have a filesystem item in nautilus? it is the same menu.
[11:42] <ndf> soundray: no i can't quit synaptic, it's still updating
[11:42] <ndf> gona wait till thats done first
[11:42] <timsom> soundray:OK ,i got it ,thank you for your help soundray
[11:42] <IndyGunFreak> !doesntwork | Ontolog
[11:42] <ndf> i keep getting patches of no traffic in wifi... so it's real slow
[11:42] <soundray> ndf: it's not sensible to run gdmsetup while you're updating, anyway
[11:43] <ndf> soundray: i spose, but it's not actually installing yet, it's just downloading packages
[11:43] <bazhang> icqnumber, thought you were talking about the system menu Places
[11:43] <Ontolog> IndyGunFreak: I want to roll back to Firefox 3.0b2. Can anyone tell me how to do this?
[11:43] <IndyGunFreak> Ontolog: you probably can't
[11:43] <mcquaid> can anyone view the apple keynote?  http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/0806wdt546x/event/index.html
[11:44] <soundray> Ontolog: see if the beta version is still in your /var/cache/apt/archives and install it with 'sudo dpkg -i --force-downgrade'
[11:44] <ndf> IndyGunFreak: i'm sure you can
[11:44] <mcquaid> it just prompts me to get latest quicktime
[11:44] <IndyGunFreak> Ontolog: try removing FF3, and reinstalling FF2 from the repos.
[11:44] <IndyGunFreak> ndf: rollback froma  stable to a release candidate?.. i'd like to see that
[11:44] <ndf> no it's not a stable
[11:44] <ndf> it's a rc2
[11:44] <ndf> he wants to go back to the first beta rc1 i think
[11:44] <IndyGunFreak> hmm, i was thinking it was stable.
[11:45] <soundray> IndyGunFreak, ndf: he wants to go back from rc1 to beta2
[11:45] <icqnumber> bazhang, about one menu item called 'file system' in places menu in nautilus or in gnome-panel
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> regardelss, i don't think it will be that easy
[11:45] <ndf> yeah
[11:45] <kane77> what is with all these updates lately in hardy?
[11:45] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: dpkg -i --force-downgrade
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: all sorts of fun
[11:45] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[11:45] <ndf> kane77: have you installed new packages lately?
[11:46] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: not if you're just downgrading from a proposed package
[11:46] <ndf> the more packages you install, the more updates you're gona get
[11:46] <ndf> :P
[11:46] <goran> i just tried with madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007 drivers and still wlan doesnt work
[11:46] <soundray> Ontolog: can you find it in your cache still?
[11:46] <LimCore> ikonia: if you will time to comment on this later it would be cool :) I think its a kernel-clock-driver bug.
[11:46] <IndyGunFreak> goran: whats the date on that source package?
[11:47] <ikonia> LimCore: I would be happy to comment
[11:47] <kane77> ndf, well.. sort of, but it's just unusual for me to find 160 new updates.. :) (meaning on final version I've been runing beta and there it was every other day :) )
[11:47] <Jaknap> Hi
[11:47] <avro> hey guys any ideas as to why my mouse suddenly stops working, its a simple Dell USB mouse, I'm running a fresh install (latest ver) [using the alternate cd] it works fine on boot but after about 20 mins stops working. Extremely annoying. Any ideas?
[11:47] <ndf> hmm
[11:47] <LimCore> ikonia: we are discussing it I guess in #ubuntu-bugs too to not spam here;  brb soon
[11:47] <goran> IndyGunFreak, i dont know
[11:48] <IndyGunFreak> goran: did you install madwifi from source?
[11:48] <Jaknap> Can any one provide me MP3 compressor for linux
[11:48] <ikonia> LimCore: fair enough
[11:48] <brandan_> I can't get passed 640x480 res
[11:48] <Ontolog> soundray: I can't find it, do you know where I can download it?
[11:48] <ndf> avro: are you using a dialup modem?
[11:48] <brandan_> this screen does 1280x1024
[11:48] <goran> IndyGunFreak, yes
[11:48] <avro> ndf: no i'm on DSL
[11:49] <ndf> there's an old BIOS bug that messes with interrupt calls between modems and mice
[11:49] <ndf> oh ok
[11:49] <ndf> then i dont know sorry
[11:49] <Jaknap> Any one there
[11:49] <IndyGunFreak> goran: the date is in the folder name..(2008425) woul be april 25 2008
[11:49] <brandan_> can you change screen resolution thru the terminal?
[11:49] <goran> and i disabled Atheros HAL from System > Administration > Hardware Drivers but is still says in use
[11:49] <ndf> back soon
[11:49] <goran> IndyGunFreak, theres no date in folder name
[11:50] <ndf> thing sto do
[11:50] <SndbaD> hi all
[11:50] <goran> /home/goran/Public/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007
[11:50] <IndyGunFreak> goran: ok.
[11:50] <albech> how do i send a pdf document directly to a postscript printer connected via tcp/ip?
[11:50] <brandan_> ikonia: i need help getting passed 640x480 res..may you help?
[11:50] <icqnumber> LimCore, hello, i do not want to fllod in the channel because have asked it several times allready, The 'Filesystem' item in Places menu has gone without any reason as i clicked on it(i was using it before successfully), but it is still displayed in Nautilus (places), how comes and how to fix that?
[11:50] <lihoudi> !
[11:51] <LimCore> icqnumber: hmm I dont know... perhaps ask also on #gnome
[11:51] <icqnumber> LimCore, oops forgot to turn it as /msg
[11:51] <delmar> Hi everyone. I'm not entirely sure my setup is able to run ubuntu 64bit, and in fact the disk only gets as far as the main menu and fails to start the kernel.  I have this CPU http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL8Q7   on this motherboard http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=227&l4=0&model=745&modelmenu=2 . When it tries to load I see a black screen and down the bottum it says.. Kernel Alive, then says.
[11:51] <delmar> . something about kernel mapping tables up to 130000000 @ 8000-e000 then it does nothing more.
[11:51] <LimCore> icqnumber: its polite to not /msg people,  but instread write on channels,  or if noone can help - try web forum etc - it takes longer but better for harder questions
[11:52] <Ontolog> soundray: I will just download / install a non package version under /usr/local/ and use that until the problem with the js debugger is addressed in 3.0. Thanks.
[11:52] <Jaknap> Can any one provide me MP3 compressor for linux: Dude any one there
[11:52] <simi> hi, i want to add write permision to a group of a folder with this command sudo chmod -R  g+w /media/BIG   but it does not working
[11:52] <bazhang> !info audacity
[11:53] <goran> IndyGunFreak, i did rmmod ath_pci, and compiled madwifi again
[11:53] <goran> but now i get
[11:53] <Vixus> Anyone know how to setup midi synthesizing in Ubuntu?
[11:53] <goran> root@horus:/home/goran/Public/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007# modprobe ath_pci
[11:53] <goran> FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/net/ath_pci.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[11:53] <soundray> Ontolog: I think downgrading would have worked just fine in this instance -- but it's your choice of course.
[11:53] <albech> i want to print directly to a printer over the internet.. the printer support postscript.. how do i connect to it from my print manager? and which ports do i have to forward to the printer?
[11:54] <IndyGunFreak> goran: no clue on that one
[11:54] <Ontolog> soundray: well I can't find the old packages on my system or online
[11:54] <icqnumber> LimCore, thank you, i may try it one more time ask in #gnome, there are no one who knows this code, as i have tried
[11:56] <chrols> albech: You should probably elaborate. Is the printer a network printer at a another site? Connected to another Ubuntu machine?
[11:56] <ne2k__> I have just discovered do-release-upgrade and it's flipping amazing
[11:56] <coo|dude> guys.. what should i do if my wireless network adapter and my USB are not supported by uBuntu 8.04?
[11:56] <soundray> Ontolog: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-3.0/
[11:56] <coo|dude> can it somehow use the windows drivers?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> coo|dude,  you mean your wireeless-usb adaptor? or what?
[11:56] <albech> chrols: its a network printer HP5000 serie
[11:56] <coo|dude> Dr_willis: two different things
[11:56] <coo|dude> wireless adapter
[11:56] <ne2k__> coo|dude: use a different wireless network adapter, USB, or operating system ;-) no, seriously, there is something called ndiswrapper that lets you use some windows drivers on linux
[11:57] <albech> chrols: with its own IP address.. and yes at another site
[11:57] <IndyGunFreak> goran: type this w/o quotes.. "/join #indygunfreak"
[11:57] <brandan_> can you change screen resolution thru the terminal?
[11:57] <coo|dude> lol.. ne2k__
[11:57] <coo|dude> thanks..
[11:57] <Ontolog> soundray: thanks
[11:57] <coo|dude> how do i use this ndiswrapper?
[11:57] <ne2k__> brandan_: screen resolution /of/ the terminal? or of the X server?
[11:57] <chrols> albech: It has it's own unique IP adress?
[11:58] <coo|dude> i am new to uBuntu..
[11:58] <brandan_> ne2k__: I wanna change the resolution under "nvidia-settings"
[11:58] <albech> chrols: well own ip on the LAN over there
[11:58] <soundray> ne2k__: I was missing 'not using a computer' from your list of solutions
[11:58] <brandan_> ne2k__: it's not letting me, and I cannot move the window enough to see it cause I' m at a tiny res now
[11:58] <albech> chrols: so i guess i have to forward a few ports from the router to the printer to make it work
[11:58] <Vixus> brandan_, that happened to me..
[11:58] <brandan_> Vixus: how to fix it?
[11:58] <Vixus> brandan_, you need to reinstall the restricted driver
[11:59] <brandan_> Vixus: how do i go about that?
[11:59] <ne2k__> brandan_: well, on linux, everything is a file, basically, so you just need to find the file with that information in it (probably in /etc/X... something somewhere) and modify it, then restart the X server (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will kill X)
[11:59] <chrols> albech: I thought so. And yes you will need to forward a port or two.
[11:59] <ne2k__> soundray: ;-)
[11:59] <albech> chrols: which ports to forward?
[11:59] <Vixus> brandan_, System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[12:00] <moDumass> hey all, i have a microsoft keyboard and it has stopped responding, any ideas re special drivers needed for this hardware?
[12:01] <soundray> ne2k__: that would address so many problems :)  In fact, I'm going to try it for a while in a while.
[12:01] <ne2k__> I just used wubi on my work windows XP machine and got 8.04 overnight -- it is great
[12:02] <soundray> ne2k__: nice. I snuck it onto a partition at work
[12:03] <styles> Ubuntu ROCKS
[12:03] <beshrkayali> hello...
[12:03] <beshrkayali> i have a problem installing ubuntu 8.4
[12:03] <soundray> Ubuntu MUGS  (https://shop.canonical.com/)
[12:04] <bazhang> !spam
[12:04] <bazhang> :)
[12:04] <beshrkayali> i got the dvd... but after i click on any item from the menu... it just freeze
[12:04] <beshrkayali> nothing happens
[12:04] <beshrkayali> just black screen
[12:04] <chrols> albech: I'm not familiar with the printer you're dealing with but my own HP uses 631
[12:04] <ne2k__> btw, I have a question. I installed ubuntu-server on to a machine which is going to be... a server. Unfortunately, one of the programs I need to install requires X, so I wanted to put on just the basic desktop environment, but not all the games and openoffice and so on that is in ubuntu-desktop. I tried installing gnome-core, which seemed to go quite well, but it doesn't actually seem to...
[12:04] <ne2k__> ...install an x server! (guess it can run remotely, huh.) so... I thought about installing xorg-server, but that doesn't seem to include any fonts, etc... so I just decided to go for ubuntu-desktop in the end. for next time, though, is there, or could someone suggest an alternative to, a "ubuntu-server-desktop" package?
[12:05] <chrols> albech: The only way to be 100% sure would be to reefer to the manual
[12:05] <beshrkayali> anyone?
[12:05] <joaopinto> ne2k__, you dont want a xserver. you want the x client libraries
[12:05] <KalimaLaptop> giews
[12:05] <Vixus> anyone manage to setup midi playback on their laptop?
[12:05] <ne2k__> soundray: obviously, wubi is designed for noobs, and hence doesn't mention words like "virtual disks" and "loopback interfaces" and so on, but... how does it actually work? I haven't bothered to check. ;-)
[12:05] <EvolElm0> hey.. gettin ubuntu on to a dell laptop.. is it normally all that hard? (never done a laptop install before)
[12:05] <bazhang> !midi
[12:06] <Vixus> cheers
[12:06] <albech> chrols: you using jetdirect or raw printing?
[12:06] <ubuntu__> !grub
[12:06] <IndyGunFreak> EvolElm0: usually hardest thing is wireless.. but depending ont he device, that may not bre that bad
[12:06] <chrols> albech: It should be Jetdirect
[12:06] <IndyGunFreak> EvolElm0: intel graphics are also sometimes problematic if you like eyecandy
[12:06] <EvolElm0> IndyGunFreak, ahh kk awesome..
[12:06] <ne2k__> joaopinto: of course I need an X server. the third-party application is an X-based program that needs to run on the server
[12:06] <joaopinto> ne2k__, wubi is not designed for noobs, it is designed for people which does not want to partition their disk, and it doest support loopback mounts
[12:07] <EvolElm0> IndyGunFreak,  not so much.. got the desktop for that one
[12:07] <soundray> ne2k__: for a minimal X, install xserver-xorg-core and all the packages it recommends and suggests (apt-cache depends xserver-xorg-core)
[12:07] <joaopinto> ne2k__, you need a xserver only on the client system, not ton the Server itself
[12:07] <brandan_> How do I get the bottom Panel back to normal, I accidently deleted it....:(=-(
[12:07] <brandan_> :-(
[12:07] <Ontolog> soundray: thanks, I got the downgrade to work and now all is well with my js debugger
[12:08] <joaopinto> if you are going to run X apps from a server, but using a client display, you need the X server locally and x client libs remotely, to run those apps
[12:08] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> Hi all - just applied todays upgrades. Now when trying to start firefox it just outputs "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 416: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!" any ideas? I've tried rolling ff back using synaptic but no luck
[12:08] <bazhang> !resetpanels | brandan_
[12:08] <jesse> brandan_, right click on the top one and select "new panel"
[12:08] <soundray> Ontolog: I'm sure they'll make Venkman work in the final release.
[12:08] <ne2k__> joaopinto: I know how X works, I have been using it for twelve years. I want an X server on the machine, because there is going to be a keyboard, mouse and monitor plugged into it and this X program is going to run on that computer and display stuff on the local screen.
[12:08] <joaopinto> [EGC-i]ThinIce, did you reboot after the upgrades ? I had an issue with the latest ff upgrade, had to reboot for it to work
[12:08] <EvolElm0> http://jesperdj.pbwiki.com/Ubuntu+on+the+Dell+XPS+M1530 awesome! same model and specs as mine :D
[12:08] <jesse> brandan_, actually, do what bazhang said, twill be quicker
[12:09] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> yeah I rebooted, no luck :/
[12:09] <ne2k__> joaopinto: occasionally, my customer's IT people are going to walk up to it and say "hmm, that's working, good stuff"
[12:09] <sprudelwasser> what can I do if a src package (./configure and that stuff) wants autoconf-1.9 and I have autoconf 1.10? Is there a file where I can change that or maybe tell the bash to use automake-1.10 when automake-1.9 is called?
[12:09] <soundray> Ontolog: btw, you should probably disable proposed again now, otherwise it'll put you up to the release candidate again next time you do a dist-upgrade.
[12:09] <joaopinto> ne2k__, ok, so for you xserver-xorg should be fine
[12:09] <bazhang> EvolElm0, not here please
[12:09] <EvolElm0> ?
[12:09] <Ontolog> soundray: disable proposed? where do I do this?
[12:09] <brandan_> command not found?
[12:09] <brandan_> what did i do wrong
[12:10] <bazhang> EvolElm0, best to paste those in #ubuntu-offtopic not here
[12:10] <EvolElm0> its pretty related to ubuntu though
[12:10] <soundray> Ontolog: didn't you have to enable it to get to the rc? Check in System-Administration-Software Sources
[12:10] <ne2k__> joaopinto: will that install any sort of window manager?
[12:10] <bazhang> EvolElm0, not to ubuntu support though
[12:10] <PennyCostco> !mp3
[12:11] <EvolElm0> tutorial on how to get it installed on a specific model of laptop isn't suppport related?
[12:11] <brandan_> There we are I got it...:)    Now all I need is to get my Resolution set up correctly, can someone help me with this?
[12:11] <joaopinto> ne2k__, no
[12:11] <Ontolog> soundray: ok thanks
[12:11] <bazhang> EvolElm0, if someone asks yes; just a random paste no
[12:12] <whileimhere> Good morning folks. I was wandering if anyone knows of a good site that helps to optimize both an Ubuntu distribution and - or a the GNOME desktop?
[12:12] <PennyCostco> how do i get a terminal screen that has black background?
[12:12] <ne2k__> joaopinto: exactly. well, never mind. I'm just going to install the whole ubuntu-desktop. it doesn't matter, the machine has an 80GB disk anyway ;-)
[12:12] <chrols> Anybody here familiar with configuring a SATA drive? Mine is so slow compared to my older IDE I suspect something is wrong
[12:12] <Agion> how can I install .exe files with wine from my desktop by console?
[12:12] <PennyCostco> why is ubuntu slower than slackware+ kde
[12:12] <brandan_> Someone please help me get past  640x480 res
[12:12] <joaopinto> ne2k__, Agion: wine file.exe
[12:12] <newk> my inbuilt microphone doesnt work wit ubuntu? help?
[12:12] <TuniX12> whileimhere: what do u mean by optimize ubuntu and GNOME?
[12:12] <ne2k__> joaopinto: huh?
[12:12] <[EGC-i]ThinIce> joaopinto,  sorry didn't highlight  yeah I rebooted, no luck :/
[12:13] <lejon> PennyCostco, it all depends on how you've setup ubuntu
[12:13] <Agion> joaopinto: does that work from desktop? I tried it but it didn't...
[12:13] <joaopinto> ne2k__, was not for you, sorry
[12:13] <ne2k__> joaopinto: slightly freakily, I am currently installing wine ;-)
[12:13] <joaopinto> Agion, what error did you get ?
[12:13] <chrols> PennyCostco: KDE is faster as general rule
[12:13] <soundray> ne2k__: did you get my minimal X recommendation?
[12:13] <Agion> i'll pastebin it in a sec
[12:13] <whileimhere> TuniX12 I am sure that there are ways to get it to both boot and run faster and smoother. I have done the very basics like turning off the Apache Server and services and such but I was thinking that there had to be more hacks and tweaks.
[12:13] <joaopinto> Agion, you must run wine from the path your .exe is located
[12:13] <jose__> quien vive
[12:13] <brandan_> I need to get past 640x480 Resolution, please anybod help? will only take a moment
[12:14] <Agion> what if I want to run it from desktop?
[12:14] <newk> my inbuilt microphone doesnt work wit ubuntu? help?
[12:14] <TuniX12> whileimhere: try Ubuntu Tweak http://ubuntu-tweak.com and goole for preload and preftech
[12:14] <soundray> !sound | newk
[12:14] <whileimhere> Thank you TuniX12 I will google those note.
[12:14] <whileimhere> now.
[12:15] <Agion> http://pastebin.ca/1043738
[12:15] <jose__> nadie que hable español
[12:15] <bazhang> !es
[12:15] <jose__> ok
[12:15] <brandan_> I need to get past 640x480 Resolution, please anybod help? will only take a moment
[12:16] <moDumass> hey all, if a keyboard is misbehaving what do i do
[12:16] <brandan_> anybody*
[12:16] <ne2k__> brandan_: stop repeating yourself
[12:16] <soundray> !fixres | brandan_
[12:16] <joaopinto> Agion, better ask on #winehq , either the .exe is corrupted or that app is not supported under wine
[12:16] <moDumass> im having issues with 4 keys spezcifizcly
[12:16] <Agion> ok
[12:16] <moDumass> and 2 of them are in that last word
[12:16] <soundray> ne2k__: did you get my minimal X recommendation?
[12:17] <joaopinto> moDumass, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (Select a proper layout)
[12:17] <magnetron> Agion: Conquer Online 2 barely runs in Windows, and it doesn
[12:17] <ne2k__> soundray: yes, thanks. I'm just going to go with the ubuntu-desktop package for now, though
[12:17] <magnetron> Agion: it doesn't run in Wine
[12:18] <ne2k__> soundray: next time round I shall try a more minimal install
[12:18] <Agion> magnetron: Maybe thats just good thing :)
[12:18] <moDumass> joaopinto, yeh i have a proper layout selezcted
[12:18] <ne2k__> is there an easy (GUI) way to set up PPTP connections on Ubuntu like on Windows?
[12:18] <moDumass> zc
[12:18] <moDumass> arghh
[12:19] <soundray> ne2k__: I've recently done a minimal X with ratpoison as a WM. It's nice and fast. 'apt-cache depends' is fairly handy
[12:19] <m0u5e> has anyone else noticed that additional mouse buttons seem to now be supported in firefox3? :D
[12:19] <magnetron> Agion: you are trying to run Conguer online, correct? alwas check http://appdb.winehq.org/ for info about how well your apps work in Wine
[12:19] <petyr> hello firneds
[12:19] <petyr> please help for my problems
[12:19] <Agion> ok
[12:20] <m0u5e> press the 'back' and 'forward' buttons on my 7 button mouse now works in firefox 3 without imwheel, etc
[12:20] <soundray> ne2k__: have you seen network-manager-pptp ?
[12:20] <erUSUL> !ask | petyr
[12:20] <m0u5e> makes me so happy
[12:20] <soundray> !info network-manager-pptp
[12:20] <ne2k__> soundray: nope! thanks
[12:20] <petyr> wait please
[12:21] <ne2k__> soundray: that is flipping brilliant. Ubuntu is like the Debian I have come to know and love, but just... better
[12:21] <petyr> I have fixes with herding call of responsibility in 2, run the game with wine and you see Give to me the following mistake :
[12:21] <petyr> Call of duty 2*
[12:22] <petyr> please help friends
[12:22] <bazhang> petyr, /join #winehq
[12:22] <vinboy> hi
[12:23] <petyr> thanks
[12:23] <vinboy> how do I mass replace a block of text in every files in a directory
[12:23] <whileimhere> How do I turn Compiz on or off?
[12:23] <jrib> vinboy: you can use sed
[12:23] <rexy_> whileimhere, preferences -> appearance
[12:23] <vinboy> jrib: ok... any gui?
[12:23] <soundray> whileimhere: 'metacity -replace' to turn it off. 'compiz -replace' to turn it on
[12:24] <petyr> I was not able to suspend him. .
[12:24] <jrib> vinboy: don't know, never looked for one
[12:24] <Agion> How can I get my ET work? It stops when I choose a server...
[12:24] <vinboy> ok thanks
[12:24] <rexy_> whileimhere, then go to the visual effects tab and select none
[12:24] <soundray> rexy_: mine's better :)
[12:25] <whileimhere> Okay. I did try to turn it on and it came back that it was unable to do so. I have an integrated video card that uses shared memory of 128 megs on my laptop. Is there no way to get it to work?
[12:25] <soundray> whileimhere: what chipset?
[12:25] <whileimhere> I think SIS but I am not sure
[12:26] <rexy_> whileimhere, type glxinfo | grep rendering in a console
 onzce i have a keyboard layout set up what would be zcauseing 4 keys to misbehave?
[12:26] <soundray> whileimhere: the SIS driver has no 3D acceleration. Go without 3D effects -- they aren't that important
[12:26] <m0u5e> whileimhere: i am on a i845GM w/ 64mb and I can run compiz fine
[12:26] <rexy_> whileimhere, it tells you if you have direct rendering enabled , which you need for compiz
 started overnight
[12:26] <eviltim> HELP
[12:26] <moDumass> in my sleep
[12:26] <eviltim> Ubuntu still wont install!
[12:27] <bazhang> !md5 | eviltim
[12:27] <eviltim> EVERy fucking timeit says:GRUb installer failed
[12:27] <petyr> hello
[12:27] <eviltim> HELP
[12:27] <rexy_> !ohmy | eviltim
[12:27] <bazhang> eviltim, no cursing here
[12:27] <whileimhere> rexy_ It says that I do not have direct rendering enabled.
[12:27] <eviltim> I am fucking mad
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[12:27] <bazhang> eviltim, stop now
[12:27] <IndyGunFreak> thats a sure way to get help
[12:27] <eviltim> IM GIVING UP ON  THIS IF THIS THING FILS AGAIN
[12:27] <rexy_> whileimhere, then you need to load the drivers for your particular graphics card
[12:27] <eviltim> *FAILS
[12:27] <m_newton> hippu, how do i update the ssh settings??
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> eviltim: thats probably best, take a paxil, and go back to windows
[12:28] <eviltim> STOP
[12:28] <soundray> eviltim: nothing like approaching a problem with a cool, rational mind
[12:28] <whileimhere> rexy_ I bet they are closed source then. I never saw anything about them in the synaptic
[12:28] <bazhang> lose the caps eviltim
[12:28] <m_newton> how do i update the ssh settings??
[12:28] <eviltim> Ive been trying to install ubuntu for 6 months!
[12:28] <rexy_> whileimhere, erm someone already said there are no 3d drivers for the sis chipset, so i think you are out of luck
[12:28] <whileimhere> Yep.
[12:28] <eviltim> now the grub installer is failing!
 Ive been trying to install ubuntu for 6 months!, ouch
[12:28] <IndyGunFreak> eviltim: that tells me there's a user malfunction
[12:28] <whileimhere> Well MAME still runs fine on it so I guess that is good.
[12:28] <Bilge> lol 6 months
[12:28] <eviltim> it says:fatal error
[12:28] <rexy_> whileimhere, or rather that it doesnt support 3d
[12:29] <jeed> eviltim, 64-bit?
[12:29] <eviltim> No,32 bit
[12:29] <jeed> never seen that before
[12:29] <eviltim> the installer gets to 95 percent,starts installing grub and fils
[12:29] <eviltim> *fails
[12:29] <ne2k__> hmmm, I just installed network-manager-pptp but I can't find where it's installed
[12:29] <eviltim> every time
[12:29] <IndyGunFreak> eviltim: try the alt. install cd
[12:29] <ne2k__> ah, no, hold on, got it
[12:29] <eviltim> whats that?
[12:30] <IndyGunFreak> !alternate | eviltim
[12:30] <bazhang> eviltim, check the md5 then do integrity test on disk; if those dont work try the alt cd
[12:30] <soundray> eviltim: I have another suggestion that may be quicker, if it works
[12:30] <eviltim> ok
[12:30] <IndyGunFreak> reinstall grub from the live CD?
[12:30] <soundray> eviltim: reinstall grub according to the RecoveringUbuntu instructions:
[12:30] <soundray> !grub | eviltim
[12:31] <eviltim> ok
[12:31] <eviltim> ill install it from here
[12:31]  * IndyGunFreak never thought of that..
[12:31] <amagalma> the text mode installer of the alternate cd supports partitioning, triple-booting, etc??
[12:31] <dynamethod> hey how does one create a deb package? say if i wanted to turn the latest netbeans IDE into a deb package so when i install it, it will get all dependencies etc
[12:31] <amagalma> oh! and Hello to all?
[12:31] <Pici> !newpackage | dynamethod
[12:31] <BaLeRinka> ÏÐÈÂÅÒÈÊ ÂÑÅÌ!
[12:32] <soundray> eviltim: and, please, next time let off steam first, then join the channel.
[12:32] <bazhang> !ru | BaLeRinka
[12:32] <whileimhere> What is an easy way to find out exactly what graphics card I have on my laptop?
[12:32] <soundray> whileimhere: lspci | grep VGA
[12:32] <eviltim> I just get freaking mad because the last 10 times this thing has failed to install!
[12:32] <petyr> Има ли някой от България ?
[12:33] <soundray> eviltim: why haven't you sought help earlier, then?
[12:33] <bazhang> petyr, english here please
[12:33] <eviltim> I didnt even know about this channel
[12:33] <ne2k__> hmmm. I created a PPTP tunnel with network-manager-pptp, but I don't seem to be able to find a place to actually bring it up. it certainly /isn't/ up
[12:33] <eviltim> HE's from bulgaria
[12:33] <soundray> eviltim: okay, that's a good enough explanation ;)
[12:33] <eviltim> !petyr|bg
[12:33] <dynamethod> has anyone acutally packaged netbeans 6.1 ide here?
[12:34] <petyr> I asked, some bulgarian here does not have still got distances on our born tongue. : )
[12:34] <ne2k__> eviltim: lol
[12:34] <IndyGunFreak> eviltim: after the first 3x, yo probably should have assumed there was a user malfunction, and sought help
[12:34] <eviltim> Actually,this is my 6th time
[12:35] <amagalma>  the text mode installer of the alternate cd supports partitioning, triple-booting, etc??
[12:35] <eviltim> in the beginning,I divent even burn it as an iso
[12:35] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: user malfunction -- I like that :)
[12:35] <eviltim> !bg|petyr
[12:36] <ne2k__> soundray: you know how to use network-manager-pptp? I created a connection but it doesn't come up, and I can't work out where to bring it up
[12:36] <soundray> ne2k__: no, sorry. See if it logs to $HOME/.xsession-errors or to /var/log/syslog
[12:36] <eviltim> wow
[12:36] <PennyCostco> how can I get a black background terminal screen in ubuntu?
[12:37] <eviltim> now grub wont install
[12:37] <rexy_> ne2k__, can you select the pptp connection in network manager to start it or?
[12:37] <eviltim> why me?
[12:37] <jeed> PennyCostco, ctrl + alt + f1
[12:37] <jrib> PennyCostco: right click -> edit current profile
[12:37] <soundray> eviltim: what does it say? Big pastes in the pastebin please
[12:37] <soundray> !paste | eviltim
[12:38] <eviltim> a command line pops up
[12:38] <eviltim> and then it dissapears
[12:38] <eviltim> thats it
[12:38] <soundray> eviltim: can you run the command that does that in a terminal (Applications-Accessories-Terminal)
[12:39] <eviltim> I'm in  windows,remember
[12:39] <eviltim> I cant install ubuntu
[12:39] <ne2k__> eviltim: try wubi
[12:39] <soundray> eviltim: how am I supposed to know that when you never said it
[12:39] <eviltim> itUbuntu still wont install!
[12:39] <soundray> eviltim: are you trying to install grub from windows?
[12:39] <eviltim> yes
[12:40] <soundray> eviltim: you have installed Ubuntu. Only grub is missing
[12:40] <ne2k__> soundray: getting this in syslog: Jun 10 12:32:40 abuchanan-desktop NetworkManager: <debug> [1213097560.528839] nm_dbus_signal_filter(): NetworkManagerInfo triggered update of VPN connection 'SFK'
[12:40] <eviltim> nope,it fails than shuts down at 95 percent
[12:40] <eviltim> on the installer
[12:40] <prabu> hello
[12:40] <Pici> eviltim: Which installer are you using?
[12:40] <soundray> eviltim: that means it's installed. Only grub is missing.
[12:40] <eviltim> Hmm
[12:40] <ne2k__> soundray: but that only happens when I go in and edit the connection. there doesn't appear to be anything about actually trying to bring the connection up
[12:41] <eviltim> ok
[12:41] <prabu> how to install kiba dock ?
[12:41] <eviltim> Ill try it
[12:41] <soundray> ne2k__: when you right or left click the nmapplet, does it list PPTP as an option?
[12:42] <prabu> any1 knows how to install kiba dock ?
[12:43] <ne2k__> soundray: is nmapplet the thing in the top panel that has two computer screens?
[12:43] <soundray> ne2k__: yes
[12:44] <prabu> ?
[12:44] <IndyGunFreak> lol, he was running those commands from Windows?
[12:45] <ne2k__> soundray: r-click shows "enable networking" "connection information" "edit wireless networks" "about"
[12:45] <soundray> ne2k__: and left click?
[12:45] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: don't know what he was doing
[12:45]  * soundray shakes head
[12:46] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: lol
[12:46] <ne2k__> soundray: l-click shows (*) Wired network, VPN connections -> Configure VPN, (Disconnect VPN); 802.1X, Manual...
[12:46] <soundray> ne2k__: one of them sounds promising...
[12:47] <prabu> how to get kiba dock ?
[12:47] <ne2k__> soundray: if I go to manual configuration, it says PPTP is not configured
[12:47] <virtual> ho to everyone
[12:48] <Fishdude> hi all
[12:48] <soundray> prabu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=554127
[12:48] <soundray> virtual: ho
[12:48] <ne2k__> soundray: but it's greyed out so I can't do anythign with it
[12:48] <soundray> ne2k__: I meant Configure
[12:49] <Theo_> when writing a shell script how do i make it prompt the user? (press any key to continue, or ctr+c to abort)
[12:49] <prabu> brb
[12:49] <virtual> soundray: sorry i means "hi" :)
[12:50] <soundray> virtual: yeah, 'ho' is seasonal and is usually repeated three times ;)
[12:50]  * Rolanditu is away (Leaving! Regreso Mas Tarde!)
[12:50] <tyranos> has anyone had any random freezes with mouse stil moving ??? especially when playing videos or games ???
[12:50] <jrib> !away > Rolanditu\Afk (read the private message from ubottu)
[12:51] <Standalf> hi
[12:52] <ne2k__> when I go into vpn->configure vpn, I get a list of one connection (the one I just created), with Add, Edit, Export and Delete (and Close) on the right
[12:52] <soundray> Standalf: hi. Well done on beating Switzerland.
[12:53] <soundray> ne2k__: how did you create the one you created?
[12:53] <ne2k__> soundray: with Add
[12:54] <ne2k__> soundray: if I go back into Edit, I can edit it all again. (I've just turned on PPP debugging), but nothing there to start/stop it
[12:54] <kdridi> hi
[12:54] <kdridi> i'm looking for docs to program keyboard event sender program please
[12:55] <soundray> ne2k__: I see. Sorry, I haven't done this myself yet. Have you played with the Export option?
[12:55] <ne2k__> soundray: that just creates a pcf file
[12:56] <actarus_> sorry, how i can to know the chipset of ethernet configuration?
[12:56] <lejon> actarus_, try with lspci
[12:57] <whatspy> good morning, how come Firefox doesn't "notice" I just installed Flash? the exact same "flash not installed" screen comes forth, even after restarting :(
[12:57] <ndf> actarus_: lspci or ifconfig will tell you
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> whatspy: using 64bit?
[12:57] <soundray> ne2k__: have you seen that the package recommends kernel-patch-mppe ?
[12:57] <whatspy> IndyGunFreak: I have no idea... it's a regular PC
[12:57] <actarus_> is this? PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP67 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)
[12:58] <soundray> whatspy: how did you install flash?
[12:58] <whatspy> soundray: tried to load a site that requires flash, and then listened to what the voices said
[12:59] <soundray> whatspy: there's a better way. Is this firefox version 3?
[13:00] <kdat> hi all, i have format my windows box and the MBR overwrite grub. i follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but the stage of grub-install it stacks, any ideas?
[13:00] <eviltim> hello
[13:00] <whatspy> soundray: nop. I guess it'd be a good opportunity to upgrade while I'm at it
[13:00] <eviltim> im chating from inside ubuntu
[13:00] <ne2k__> soundray: hmmm, no
[13:00] <soundray> whatspy: is libflashplayer.so listed when you open about:plugins as a URL?
[13:00] <ne2k__> soundray: I installed it with synaptic
[13:01] <soundray> !info kernel-patch-mppe
[13:01] <eviltim> where can I get grub from?
[13:01] <soundray> eviltim: follow the RecoveringUbuntu link from the factoid:
[13:01] <soundray> !grub | eviltim
[13:01] <whatspy> soundray: oops, absolutely not !
[13:01] <Jaffarkelshac> eviltim: did you delete a partitions?
[13:02] <whatspy> wow, I had no idea we could do that
[13:02] <kdat> also with Super Grub Disk it stacks at the stage of "running "embed /boot/grub/e2fs_stage1_s(hd0)"..."
[13:02] <soundray> whatspy: that's good, because then there's nothing that'll get in the way of the next step
[13:02] <Jaffarkelshac> you can restore grub quiet easily eviltim
[13:02] <kripz> is there any amp packages that dont require installation and can run straight off a usb memory stick??
[13:02] <eviltim> how?
[13:02] <eviltim> I tink im running from the cd
[13:02] <Jaffarkelshac> are you in livecd right now?
[13:02] <eviltim> the installer failed
[13:02] <ne2k__> soundray: that package is missing
[13:02] <eviltim> yes
[13:02] <Jaffarkelshac> do you have an installation of ubuntu? eviltim
[13:03] <stupidknight> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 6.06. Now it's a new installation, and I'd like to install Subversion on it! Basically what I read is that I simply just have to go "apt-get install subversion". But it doesn't find it? So I do an update on the package list, and still nothing. I check /etc/sources.list, but it doesn't exists. Now I just heard that it's under /etc/apt/sources.list, but I only have a file named sources.list.d and it's pret
[13:03] <soundray> whatspy: exit firefox, run 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' and start firefox to see if it works now
[13:03] <soundray> ne2k__: yes, I've noticed that, too, now.
[13:03] <eviltim> im running 8.04 from the cd,and I think ive installed ubuntu
[13:03] <ne2k__> soundray: it's all very odd
[13:03] <soundray> ne2k__: have you rebooted since you installed pptp?
[13:03] <stupidknight> also, the weird thing is that I'm actually logged in as root...?
[13:03] <abe3k> Hello :)
[13:03] <eviltim> but when it tried to install grub it failed
[13:03] <whatspy> soundray: thank you, here I go
[13:04] <Jaffarkelshac> what do you mean you think you installed ubuntu eviltim
[13:04] <abe3k> Hello
[13:04] <abe3k> :)
[13:04] <Jaffarkelshac> if you installed it, grub will be installed with it, eviltim
[13:04] <kdat> eviltim, i having too trubles with installing grub
[13:04] <eviltim> The installer gave me a fatal error when it tried to do grub
[13:04] <IndyGunFreak> Jaffarkelshac: his grub install failed.
[13:04] <eviltim> Im not sure whether linux is on the hd or not
[13:04] <soundray> eviltim: have you opened that link that ubottu gave you?
[13:04] <dr_Willis> stupidknight, somthign sounds very weird.. You might want to get the latest version of ubuntu. 8.04 was just recently released..
[13:04] <ne2k__> soundray: no, maybe I'll try that. but I shouldn't have to -- this is linux! ;-)
[13:05] <ne2k__> soundray: I'll try it now
[13:05] <eviltim> yes
[13:05] <IndyGunFreak> eviltim: look at the partition editor(system/admin/partition editor), and see if you see Linux partitions
[13:05] <abe3k> guys I have a question
[13:05] <soundray> ne2k__: I know, sometimes it's still useful...
[13:05] <ne2k__> soundray: bbiam
[13:05] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: should he not just stick to the instructions on the wiki page?
[13:05] <stupidknight> dr_Willis: yea, well, I can't really since it's a webhost.
[13:05] <Jaffarkelshac> abe3k: ask the question
[13:06] <abe3k> If I have compiz-git installed
[13:06] <eviltim> its got 1gb in it]
[13:06] <abe3k> and I have it updated
[13:06] <stupidknight> dr_Willis: how do I check which version I've got installed?
[13:06] <abe3k> will it be as new as compiz fusion ?
[13:06] <eviltim> but it doesnt say linux
[13:06] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: i agree, but he said he doesn't know if Ubuntu installed, thats why i just told him to see if he sees linux partitions, if he does, then its likely installed.
[13:06] <dr_Willis> stupidknight,  Bummer.. whats exacty do you mean by a webhost?
[13:06] <IndyGunFreak> 1gb?.. thats it
[13:06] <dr_Willis> stupidknight,  lsb_release -a
[13:06] <c_lisp>  
[13:06] <AwaDoV> hello
[13:07] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: he said it went up to 95%, so it must be all there
[13:07] <AwaDoV> how i can run my rare speaker plz ?
[13:07] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: one would think..
[13:07] <AwaDoV> front only work
[13:07] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: but its his 6-7th time installing,s ow ho knows..lol
[13:07] <eviltim> How do I install GRUB?
[13:07] <soundray> eviltim: can you try the steps described under "Quick Start" on that page?
[13:07] <abe3k> I used the ./compiz-git update command line
[13:07] <IndyGunFreak> !grub | eviltim
[13:08] <IndyGunFreak> eviltim: use the recovery instructions
[13:08] <stupidknight> dr_Willis: yupp, it's Dapper. Well, Virtual Server Host
[13:08] <AwaDoV> hello
[13:08] <dr_Willis> stupidknight,  not sure what you are meaning by that term. :) somthing ive never messed with I guess...
[13:08] <dr_Willis> stupidknight,  im just a home-small lan user :P
[13:08] <abe3k> I'm speaking computability wise :)
[13:08] <stupidknight> dr_Willis: k..
[13:08] <stupidknight> anyone else?
[13:08] <AwaDoV> is there anyone can help me ?
[13:09] <eviltim> nope
[13:09] <soundray> !sound | AwaDoV
[13:09] <abe3k> hey knight I have a question
[13:09] <eviltim> says file not found on the console
[13:09] <o_sam_o> im having problems setting up svn, as soon as i put "require valid-user" i get "require directives present and no Authoritative handler" google isnt helping me
[13:09] <soundray> eviltim: at what step?
[13:10] <xnv> Anyone else have the problem of Update Manager stalling with the latest updates?
[13:10] <eviltim> Type the following and press enter:
[13:10] <eviltim> find /boot/grub/stage1
[13:10] <eviltim> it says file not found
[13:10] <abe3k> xnv: clearing the cache helped solving the problem for me
[13:10] <IndyGunFreak> eviltim: read that again
[13:10] <soundray> eviltim: is that at the grub> prompt?
[13:10] <IndyGunFreak> you're missing something
[13:10] <eviltim> yes
[13:10] <xnv> abe3k: What cache?
[13:10] <eviltim> It isnt there
[13:10] <IndyGunFreak> eviltim: you typed it wrong, read again.
[13:11] <IndyGunFreak> if thats exactly what you typed..(what you put here)
[13:11] <eviltim> yes
[13:11] <eviltim> I copied it
[13:11] <eviltim> off the website
[13:11] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: I can't see a mistake
[13:11] <eviltim> maybe i should just give up
[13:11] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: he didn't have the = sign in what he put here.
[13:11] <IndyGunFreak> unless i missed it
[13:11] <eviltim> find /boot/grub/stage1
[13:12] <prabu> soundray; i couldnt find kiba dock
[13:12] <AwaDoV> many thanx ubottu
[13:12] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: there shouldn't be any...
[13:12] <kdat> how much time need the grub-installer to overwrite grub?
[13:12] <IndyGunFreak> eviltim: are you putting the = sign int he terminal?
[13:12] <Buyydee> Hey, I have an external Philips mp3-player on which I deleted (on windows) some files to make space. now when I try to add new data on ubuntu, it says 'not enough space'. actually nautilus tells me that the free space is 400 mb, whereas windows says it's 6 gb (which it should be after deleting the files). when I mark all files (there are no hidden ones) in nautilus and go to properties, it displays 14 gb (which leaves me with the 6gb free spa
[13:12] <xnv> OK, perhaps related... "$ sudo killall update-manager" results in "sudo: unable to resolve host [my hostname]". What's going on?
[13:12] <eviltim> what?
[13:12] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: eviltim   right off the wiki..  find /boot/grub/stage=1
[13:12] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: there is no equal sign there
[13:12] <eviltim> FILE not found!
[13:13] <abe3k> xnv : sudo apt-get update -o Acquire::http::No-Cache=True
[13:13] <IndyGunFreak> ok..
[13:13] <aRahim> find /boot/grub/stage1
[13:13] <IndyGunFreak> sorry, my glasses broke yesterday and i'm heaving a helluva time.
[13:13] <IndyGunFreak> my new ones should be in today thank godness
[13:13] <soundray> eviltim: do you have more than one hard disk?
[13:13] <eviltim> no
[13:14] <prabu> how to get kiba dock ? ny1 knows
[13:14] <soundray> eviltim: can you run 'sudo fdisk -l' in the terminal and pastebin the output (http://paste.ubuntu.com)
[13:14] <stupidknight> what's the regular source that I should have, if any..
[13:14] <soundray> prabu: I've given you a link
[13:14] <dacubuntu> hi
[13:15] <prabu> yes but how to install tat
[13:15] <dacubuntu> is anyone here using virtual box??
[13:15] <eviltim> done
[13:15] <ndf> dacubuntu: #vbox
[13:15] <dacubuntu> oh sorry
[13:15] <dacubuntu> :P
[13:15] <soundray> prabu: it's a web site with instructions. You open it in firefox
[13:15] <abe3k> dacubuntu: I have it :)
[13:15] <prabu> ok brb
[13:15] <eviltim> i put in the bin
[13:15] <c_lisp> dacubuntu I use it
[13:15] <ndf> lol no worries
[13:16] <dacubuntu> ok
[13:16] <dacubuntu> should i discuss it here?
[13:16] <IndyGunFreak> eviltim: you have to give us the link
[13:16] <dacubuntu> my usb isnt working properly
[13:16] <eviltim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19037/
[13:16] <c_lisp> did you enable it in fstab?
[13:16] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: sorry, you were so right...
[13:16] <IndyGunFreak> doesn't look like Linux is installed to me..
[13:16] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: :)
[13:16] <eviltim> oh
[13:17] <eviltim> It did try to install
[13:17] <eviltim> it said fatal error at grub
[13:17] <eviltim> and it booted from the cd
[13:17] <IndyGunFreak> eviltim: well, somethinng happened and it didn't work, i would suggest using the alt. install cd
[13:17] <eviltim> ok
[13:17] <soundray> !alternate | eviltim
[13:17] <MrNaz> can i expect ubuntu to support common integrated motherboards out of the box or will i need to get drivers?
[13:17] <IndyGunFreak> eviltim: just remember, burn the ISO SLOW...
[13:18] <eviltim> I cant choose the speed
[13:18] <eviltim> with my burner
[13:18] <IndyGunFreak> you should be able to.
[13:18] <abe3k>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[13:18] <IndyGunFreak> its a software issue if you can't,not a hardware issue.
[13:18] <sajuuk> has anyone else had saving problems with open office 2.4 on hardy heron?
[13:18] <IndyGunFreak> sajuuk: nope, works fine
[13:18] <sajuuk> When I save, it breaks and office stops responding
[13:19]  * IndyGunFreak thinks eviltim will hose his system w/ the alt. install cd.. bad feeling.. 6 install tries?
[13:19] <ffm> What's the reccomended partition type for installing on SD media?
[13:19]  * soundray shivers -- we didn't tell him to backup
[13:19] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: well, hopefully after 6 tries, he's figured that out by now.
[13:19] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[13:19] <Buyydee> Hey, I have an external Philips mp3-player on which I deleted (on windows) some files to make space. now when I try to add new data on ubuntu, it says 'not enough space'. actually nautilus tells me that the free space is 400 mb, whereas windows says it's 6 gb (which it should be after deleting the files). when I mark all files (there are no hidden ones) in nautilus and go to properties, it displays 14 gb (which leaves me with the 6gb free spa
[13:20] <sajuuk> so no solutions with my problem? should i just switch to abiword?
[13:20] <soundray> sajuuk: does this happen with every document?
[13:20] <kripz> is there any amp packages that dont require installation and can run straight off a usb memory stick??
[13:20] <sajuuk> pretty much
[13:21] <soundray> sajuuk: what does that mean?
[13:21] <prabu> im back
[13:21] <kdat> could please someone tell me how much time grub needs to installed? i may not wait much time
[13:21] <nazgjunk> anyone got experience with X messing up when you close the laptop lid? I'm sitting at a Thinkpad t60p, when I close and open the lid the screen is black except for a space somewhere in the middle that is mostly black but has some noise
[13:21] <sajuuk> i have a 256 mb laptop that runs at 1.6 ghz, that might be a problem...
[13:21] <soundray> sajuuk: there's a major difference between it never working and it working sometimes
[13:22] <prabu> soundray : they gave many codes but they never xxplained d how to do tat
[13:22] <sajuuk> OO works its just that when i save it stuffs up
[13:22] <ffm> kdat: 2 mins.
[13:22] <Buyydee> nazgjunk: my t61p does a similar thing when resuming from suspend. i just wait 3-4 seconds and then it's fine...
[13:22] <prabu> any other way to install kiba dock ?
[13:22] <soundray> prabu: it requires compiling software. If you can't cope with that, please try to live without kiba-dock for now and gather some experience first.
[13:22] <kdat> ffm, tahnks
[13:23] <ffm> kdat: np.
[13:23] <nazgjunk> Buyydee: doesn't work for me. I'm looking at some bug reports, seems I'm at least not the only one with this issue
[13:23] <sajuuk> at least it can be recovered
[13:23] <nazgjunk> which is sort of comfortin
[13:23] <Buyydee> nazgjunk: are you using the nvidia or nv display driver?
[13:23] <abe3k> guys is there any compiz channel ?
[13:23] <ffm> abe3k: /j #compiz
[13:23] <prabu> yeah
[13:23] <abe3k> thanks :)
[13:23] <soundray> sajuuk: you can try to reduce OOo's memory footprint by editing the settings in Tools-Options-Memory settings
[13:23] <nazgjunk> not that I'm aware of - shouldn't, I guess, as I have no such card
[13:24] <abe3k> Hi guys
[13:24] <abe3k> I have a question :)
[13:24] <sajuuk> rightio
[13:24] <soundray> sajuuk: the fact that it saves copies for restoring proves that it can save documents in principle.
[13:24] <Buyydee> nazgjunk: i see... well then you're probably using ati which is always not the best thing to do with ubuntu - i have no experience with that too, sry
[13:24] <sajuuk> yep
[13:24] <soundray> sajuuk: you're not trying to save to a network location?
[13:24] <sajuuk> nope to my home folder
[13:25] <sajuuk> i just did in terminal : metacity --replace
[13:25] <soundray> sajuuk: why?
[13:25] <eviltim> I'm sorry:I give up
[13:25] <sajuuk> it puts my compiz at minimum apparently, so it gives me a little more memory to work with
[13:25] <eviltim> This is just more trouble than its worth
[13:26] <sajuuk> but that is not the case
[13:26] <sajuuk> i will do your solution now
[13:26] <eviltim> Why all other installs work and mine always doesn is beyond me
[13:26] <sajuuk> and see what happens
[13:26] <eviltim> maybe ill try again in the future
[13:26] <soundray> eviltim: try it on another machine
[13:26] <lejon> eviltim, what have you tried so far?
[13:27] <eviltim> Apparently ubuntu just wont install grub
[13:27] <eviltim> it crshes teh install screen
[13:27] <Da_Putzler> hi guys
[13:27] <eviltim> and doesnt install anything
[13:27] <eviltim> *the
[13:27] <sajuuk> ok im in the memory bit, what should i decrease?
[13:27] <Da_Putzler> Q.) is it possible to see who's connected to your wireless network in 'bunts ???
[13:27] <lejon> eviltim, have you tried to manually install grub before then?
[13:27] <eviltim> yes
[13:27] <soundray> sajuuk: the number of undo steps
[13:28] <eviltim> it doesnt work
[13:28] <sajuuk> ok, i halved it
[13:28] <eviltim> I cant take any more frustration
[13:28] <sajuuk> mind you, i havent done enough steps to undo 100 steps
[13:28] <eviltim> maybe in a couple of years,when the installer works better
[13:28] <lejon> Da_Putzler, if you're router supports it you can check it in the router, I dunno if its possible through ur wireless connection, seeing as ur not administrating the network ur in, ur just connected to it
[13:28] <sajuuk> nope that didnt work?
[13:28] <sajuuk> work.
[13:28] <eviltim> I dont need to dual-boot
[13:28] <sajuuk> i will take the steps to 0
[13:29] <Da_Putzler> lejon: no router, I just use masq to share an internet connection thru wireless to my laptop
[13:29] <xTOGx> 'morning
[13:29] <soundray> sajuuk: that's going to far :)
[13:29] <EvanItal> ahh, dual boot...I'm having an issue with that also
[13:29] <sajuuk> its an extreme
[13:29] <sajuuk> but I have to do it
[13:29] <soundray> sajuuk: 20 or so are good. Reduce the other values as well
[13:29] <Da_Putzler> I know winblows lets you see who's connected, but I cant figure out how to do it for 'bunts
[13:30] <eviltim> yes,no-one is paying atention
[13:30] <eviltim> goodbye for a few years
[13:30] <lejon> Da_Putzler, Then you should be able to through monitor mode, if ur wireless card support it, otherwise you could try to run wireshark in promiscious mode to see if anyone but ur comp sends packets through ur connection
[13:30] <soundray> eviltim: we're paying attention
[13:30] <lejon> for me dual-boot worked rather perfectly
[13:30] <soundray> eviltim: you should try the alternate CD
[13:31] <lejon> didn't have to fool around that much to get it to work
[13:31] <eviltim> why?
[13:31] <Da_Putzler> thx lejon
[13:31] <eviltim> ill just spend another 2 hours downloading it
[13:31] <lejon> Da_putzler, no problem :P
[13:31] <eviltim> and it wont work again
[13:31] <Pici> !alternate | eviltim
[13:31] <soundray> eviltim: that's not much, considering that you've been on it for six months
[13:31] <eviltim> besids,I expanded the partitions again
[13:31] <eviltim> I dont feel like continuing
[13:31] <PetoKraus> i would say
[13:31] <eviltim> goodbye
[13:31] <PetoKraus> use minimal install
[13:32] <PetoKraus> or fuck off.
[13:32] <sajuuk> sigh
[13:32] <PetoKraus> ^^
[13:32] <lejon> His loss
[13:32] <sajuuk> yeah
[13:32] <s0ullight> hello i am using hardy and installed wmii when i start firefox in gnome everything is fine but starting firefox in wmii : it goes into offline mode
[13:32] <Pici> PetoKraus: Watch your language and be nice.
[13:32] <lejon> some people just refuse to read around forums and research to get something to work...
[13:32] <EvanItal> my problem is this..I am a newb...so I printed the directions from Ubuntu on setting up a dual boot...I get to the partioning window....the instructions say to resize the windows partition...using the size button...I never see a size button...
[13:32] <sajuuk> he was being nice
[13:32] <Pici> !coc
[13:32] <PetoKraus> till he was here
[13:32] <modoc> If I want to install a base Ubuntu setup (no desktop; ubuntu-minimal only) can I use the regular ISO or should I use the server ISO?
[13:33] <soundray> modoc: server is more suitable
[13:33] <sajuuk> ok i put steps to 1, settings are decreased
[13:33] <Pici> modoc: I'd use the minimal cd personally.
[13:33] <sajuuk> no save
[13:33] <nazgjunk> hey, I just sort of got past it, dirtily
[13:33] <sajuuk> open office seems to be broken
[13:33] <eviltim> maybe ill buy the free cd at some point
[13:33] <Pici> modoc: But if you already have the Server CD, that works great too
[13:33] <modoc> Pici: what If I have no network connection?  Will the minimal still do?
[13:33] <soundray> sajuuk: that's too early to conclude
[13:33] <eviltim> Im going to enjoy my life
[13:34] <sajuuk> you are right, what is next?
[13:34] <Pici> modoc: Not really, you kinda need the network for that.
[13:34] <hahahaha> i just bought a laptop and i will give it to my sister and she's in the philippines (asia), do i need some type of voltage converter? or will the laptop's adaptor do the job?
[13:34] <sajuuk> where are you buying said laptop?
[13:34] <modoc> hahahaha: usually the adapter will do the conversion
[13:34] <soundray> hahahaha: better to ask in ##hardware
[13:34] <sajuuk> an adapter is a transformer
[13:35] <chrystyano25ROMA> czesc damski meski
[13:35] <eviltim> HELLO!IIF ANYONE CAN HEAR ME,I WISHED THE INSTALLER WOULD ACTUALLY WORK
[13:35] <soundray> sajuuk: do you have any filesystems that are full? df -h
[13:35] <chrystyano25ROMA> cristi ROMANIA
[13:35] <sajuuk> no full filesystems, no
[13:36] <sajuuk> im pretty damn sure, i got 50 gig on this
[13:36] <Blue112> Hello, I have few questions about RAID 1 on ubuntu
[13:36] <Blue112> How does it work ?
[13:36] <modoc> eviltim: it worked fine for me yesterday
[13:36] <Pici> eviltim: Please stop with the caps.
[13:36] <sajuuk> eviltim, how is the live cd, not working?
[13:36] <Myrtti> eviltim: behave, please
[13:36] <Blue112> I have hardware raid enabled, and i've created one RAID 1 disk, but I see two in the installation.
[13:36] <eviltim> HOW
[13:36] <eviltim> im jsut too mad
[13:36] <lejon> eviltim, if you would've read the messages I sent to you you would have understod that we are trying to hlep
[13:36] <lejon> help*
[13:36] <sajuuk> aye
[13:37] <eviltim> IT isnt working
[13:37] <sajuuk> thats ok
[13:37] <eviltim> I have terrible luck
[13:37] <eviltim> ill just get  a free cd
[13:37] <sajuuk> hardy didnt work for me at all
[13:37] <frostburn> Blue112, if you have a hardware raid, you should only see one disk
[13:37] <lejon> eviltim, you'll have to say more than its just isn't working, how is it not working?
[13:37] <sajuuk> but i got it after 2 days of working out
[13:37] <Pici> eviltim: What type of install have you tried? Wubi? Or the Live CD?
[13:37] <lejon> eviltim, join /j #lejon and ill try to help you there
[13:37] <Blue112> frostburn: But i see two.
[13:37] <valntino_eg> hi
[13:37] <sajuuk> Wubi= Alternate?
[13:37] <rabidweezle> if an app messes up my mouse in X that it doesn't move, is there something I can do to bring it back?
[13:37] <eviltim> The grub installer isnt working,how mant times do i have to say it?
[13:37] <simplechat> hmmm, heyyas
[13:37] <lejon> wubi= the windows installer
[13:37] <Pici> sajuuk: Wubi is the 'windows isntaller'
[13:37] <sajuuk> oh btw, i have 30gig of freespace
[13:38] <rabidweezle> without ctrl+alt+backspace...
[13:38] <sajuuk> so nothing wrong there
[13:38] <soundray> sajuuk: can you kill OOo, do a 'mv ~/.openoffice.org2 ~/openoffice.org2-backup' and try again?
[13:38] <eviltim> when the installer gets to the grub part (around 95 percent) it crashes
[13:38] <frostburn> Blue112, verify that the raid is working through the controllers bios after a reboot?
[13:38] <sajuuk> ok i can do that
[13:38] <Pici> eviltim: Grub is not an installer type, Which install are you using?
[13:38] <eviltim> its done this 3 times now
[13:38] <magnetron> Blue112: is your "hardware RAID" configured via BIOS? then it probably isn't really hardware RAID, but so called "fake-RAID". if that's the case, you really want to disable the RAID in BIOS and use software RAID instead
[13:38] <Blue112> frostburn: Currently it's installing...
[13:38] <shawn123> hi guys
[13:38] <magnetron> !raid > Blue112
[13:38] <eviltim> when the live cd installer gets to 95 percent
[13:38] <Blue112> magnetron: Yes, it's created by bios
[13:38] <shawn123> i just installed ubuntu for my first time,
[13:39] <soundray> eviltim: have you run the CD integrity check?
[13:39] <shawn123> and i need help with getting wireless internet
[13:39] <valntino_eg> yahsbab hi ana sa3ed ine at3raf a3lekom
[13:39] <Pici> eviltim: Do you have any special disk setup? RAID? External USB?
[13:39] <valntino_eg> we kaman atklem ma3kom
[13:39] <shawn123> i got a inspiron 6400
[13:39] <Pici> !en | valntino_eg
[13:39] <Myrtti> !eg | valntino_eg
[13:39] <shawn123> with the broadcom wireless card..can anyone help?
[13:39] <eviltim> I actually broke the dvd in frustration
[13:39] <eviltim> I cant take this any more
[13:39] <eviltim> bye
[13:39] <Pici> eviltim: Then take a break and come back in a few days, cya.
[13:39] <sajuuk> eviltim: that doesnt solve it
[13:40] <eviltim> Maybe in a few yeras
[13:40] <sajuuk> eviltim: tell these guys EVERYTHING
[13:40] <eviltim> when it actua;lly works
[13:40] <jeed> hehe i could just imagine a red-faced eviltim snapping a DVD in two
[13:40] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[13:40] <jianfei> lol
[13:40] <AwaDoV> how i can add latter command to my sessions to make compiz running every time the system starts up.
[13:40] <lejon> lol it does work, how do you otherwise think I installed it? I had some probs with it too
[13:40] <eviltim> Ive been telling them everything for an our now!
[13:40] <AwaDoV> ?
[13:40] <Myrtti> let's keep the eye on the ball
[13:40] <jianfei> get a grip!
[13:41] <sajuuk> ok what are you installing, Hardy Heron?
[13:41] <eviltim> when the live cd
[13:41] <eviltim> gets to 95 percent
[13:41] <eviltim> it crashes
[13:41] <EvanItal> I'm gonna give wubi a try
[13:41] <eviltim> thats it
[13:41] <sajuuk> ok
[13:41] <sajuuk> whats ur system specs?
[13:41] <eviltim> it says grub has undergone a fatal error
[13:41] <Myrtti> eviltim: then how about trying alternate cd
[13:41] <Slart> eviltim: is it the grub part?
[13:41] <eviltim> yes
[13:41] <eviltim> pentium dual-core
[13:41] <eviltim> 2 gigahetz
[13:41] <eviltim> 32 bit
[13:42] <sajuuk> and ram?
[13:42] <eviltim> 2 gigs of ram
[13:42] <adam7> !enter | eviltim
[13:42] <eviltim> 250 gb disc
[13:42] <magnetron> eviltim: did you burn the iso to a CD or a DVD disc? at what speed did you burn it? did you verify it?
[13:42] <eviltim> sorry!
[13:42] <soundray> sajuuk, Myrtti, Pici: and after the installer went to 95%, he booted to live CD and pasted this fdisk -l output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19037/
[13:42] <FloodBot3> eviltim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <rich_freecomm> I like using the alternate...it's a whole lot faster
[13:42] <Slart> eviltim: hmm.. not the first question about the installer dying during grub.. I assume you've checked the forums?
[13:42] <eviltim> Ive tryed both dvded and cds
[13:42] <eviltim> Ive had
[13:42] <eviltim> it
[13:42] <sajuuk> yeah i would use the alternate, eviltim
[13:42] <magnetron> !enter | eviltim
[13:42] <eviltim> Maybe in a few days
[13:42] <sajuuk> alternate solved many problems for me
[13:43] <eviltim> Im going on a vacation now
[13:43] <sajuuk> ok solution
[13:43] <sajuuk> i got it for this bug
[13:43] <sajuuk> its my RAM, has to be
[13:44] <soundray> sajuuk: how do you know?
[13:44] <sajuuk> i have 256 mb of ram, this is being used up by OO, and by my rhythmbox player
[13:44] <sajuuk> i turned off rhythmbox
[13:44] <sajuuk> as in quit it, and I managed to fix the problem
[13:44] <Myrtti> sajuuk: have you run memtest?
[13:44] <sajuuk> memtest via grub?
[13:45] <Myrtti> yup
[13:45] <Pici> sajuuk: Do you have swap space partitioned and in use?
[13:45] <magnetron> sajuuk: how large's your swap?
[13:45] <sajuuk> ok give me a second to access that
[13:45] <eviltim> ok,ill download the alternate in a few days,when i come back from my vacation
[13:46] <eviltim> And ill try that
[13:46] <eviltim> If that doesnt work,I will ask here for help
[13:46] <sajuuk> i cant find the damn thingy for ram and swap readouts...
[13:46] <gordonjcp> does anyone even use swap any more?
[13:46] <soundray> sajuuk: free
[13:46] <Blue112> Hello again, how could I install two Apache-php-mysql version into the same pc ?
[13:47] <soundray> gordonjcp: yes, when they have 256MB of RAM
[13:47] <sajuuk> ahh
[13:47] <rahim123> hi there, how can I modify just one key on my keyboard from within gnome?
[13:47] <sajuuk> i have 256 mb of RAM, i have to have a swap
[13:47] <gordonjcp> soundray: fair point
[13:47] <eviltim> Goodbye
[13:47] <sharpe> gordonjcp, I always set it up (even with 4Gb of RAM), 2Gb of HD space from 500Gb is nothing and if I ever need it better to have it than not
[13:47] <sajuuk> what is a swap for?
[13:47] <gordonjcp> soundray: all the articles I've ever read about swap talk about the extravagance of having 24MB swap when you've got 8MB RAM, kind of thing
[13:47] <eviltim> Goodbye
[13:47] <jeed> gordonjcp, i use swap and i have 4gb dual channel ddr2
[13:47] <rahim123> I would like the backspace key to be a |
[13:48] <sajuuk> bye time
[13:48] <sajuuk> bye tim*
[13:48] <ChaosTheory_> How do I copy from Firefox to Eterm?
[13:48] <sharpe> >sajuuk, if the system allocates all the physical ram it can use a partition on the disk as virtual memory
[13:48] <sajuuk> ahh ok
[13:48] <ChaosTheory_> It seems like shift insert does Eterm <--> Eterm only.
[13:48] <soundray> Bet he'll be back in a minute
[13:48] <sharpe> >sajuuk, downside is than hd speeds are 2 orders of magnitude lower than RAM
[13:48] <Blue112> How could I install two Apache-php-mysql version into the same pc ?
[13:48] <jeed> Blue112, just put them in different places
[13:48] <soundray> ChaosTheory_: try highlight - middle mouse button
[13:49] <Blue112> jeed: How do I do that ?
[13:49] <rahim123> ﻿sajuuk: try sysctl vm.swappiness=5 if you dont want it to use the swap unless absolutely necessary
[13:49] <sajuuk> rightio, i didnt get that last bit, sharpe :) i just take that the HDD runs slower?
[13:49] <ChaosTheory_> soundray: HOLY COW thats awesome. O_O
[13:49] <sajuuk> ok my 'free' read out came out with
[13:49] <sharpe> >sajuuk, roughly yes, a good single HD will transfer 50-60Mb/s, average RAM in a mediocre machine ~5000Mb/s
[13:49] <sharpe> a high end machine nearer 10,000Mb/s
[13:49] <soundray> ChaosTheory_ has just discovered mouse button pasting :)
[13:49] <jeed> Blue112, with package managers you usually cant, but most hosting enviroments like to source compile all their stuff and then you get to choose where it goes
[13:50] <sajuuk> 3mb free for ramm and a good 500 mb for my swap
[13:50] <sajuuk> that might be a problem
[13:50] <joe_> is there a howto on getting evolution filtering junk mail? i searched the ubuntu forums and installed + started spamassasin
[13:50] <joe_> but alas it doesnt filter
[13:50] <soundray> sajuuk: how much swap is used?
[13:50] <Blue112> jeed: Source compiling is long and makes problem (depencies)
[13:50] <sajuuk> not much, 176 mb out of the 698
[13:50] <sajuuk> whilst i have a full ram chip
[13:51] <soundray> sajuuk: that's not too bad.
[13:51] <sharperguy> When I plug my media player in (in GNOME), Rhythmbox automatically starts up and opens it. Is it possible to configure ubuntu so the same happens with amarok instead?
[13:51] <jeed> Blue112, not long if your a hosting server, and its pretty trivial to install a few dependancies and in turn get better security and control over your business :)
[13:51] <soundray> sajuuk: but if you can upgrade, it's definitely worth doing
[13:51] <sajuuk> do what?
[13:51] <sajuuk> upgrade what? sorry i totally missed what u r referring to
[13:51] <soundray> sharperguy: System-Preferences-Removable drives and media
[13:52] <soundray> sajuuk: the amount of RAM
[13:52] <sajuuk> ahh
[13:52] <sharperguy> soundray, thanks
[13:52] <abe3k> hi guys
[13:52] <cq> hello, what's teh best way to back up a system? Is it possible to just rsync everything to another disk, or is that hard because of active components like a DB etc.
[13:52] <cq> ?
[13:52] <sajuuk> I dont think that will happen :) its a 4yr old laptop with ddr 1 ram in it
[13:52] <Blue112> jeed: And what about if I need very accurate apache version ?
[13:52] <taufiq_ilm> exit
[13:52] <jeed> Blue112, then download and compile the source for it, wheres the problem?
[13:53] <joaopinto> cq, for DBs you must use a db specific tool
[13:53] <soundray> cq: rsync is fine for backing up. Databases should be backed up separately IMO
[13:53] <soundray> !backup | cq
[13:53] <cq> thanks
[13:53] <soundray> !sbackup | cq
[13:53] <voy> I have a problem with my netcard. I downloaded ieee80211-1.2.8 and tried to update it on my Ubuntu Hardy. As part of the make procedure, it suggested that I removed the old ieee80211 that I had installed and proceeded with compiling, but the compiling failed and now my netcard wont work. It reports missing symbols. How can I fix this?
[13:53] <cq> I just want the system synced to an external disk
[13:53] <cq> I don't need incrementals
[13:53] <joaopinto> Blue112, it is very unlikely that you need a version newer than the one available on the repos
[13:54] <sajuuk> random question does kde use less RAM than GNOME?
[13:54] <Blue112> joaopinto: I need an older version
[13:54] <soundray> cq: have a look at rsync docs -- very useful. unison is interesting, too
[13:54] <Blue112> The 2.0.55
[13:54] <sharperguy> soundray, that doesn't seem to have an option for media devices
[13:54] <soundray> sajuuk: no
[13:54] <jeed> Blue112, why?
[13:55] <cq> soundray- I use rsync for data backups all teh time, just wondering if it does entire systems, or the DBs cause a problem etc.
[13:55] <mason420> c.etree.org
[13:55] <sajuuk> weird, cos i can play rhythm box and have a whole lot more stuff open and still save work via OO
[13:55] <Blue112> jeed: Cause it's the "stable" version that I currently use.
[13:55] <soundray> sharperguy: oops, indeed, it doesn't on hardy. It used to in gutsy. Sorry, I don't know then.
[13:55] <jeed> Blue112, then wheres your problem? :S
[13:56] <joaopinto> cq, doing a filesystem based backup of a DB will most likely get you an inconsistent restore
[13:56] <ashish> how to record the audio from mms
[13:56] <Blue112> I have a new server
[13:56] <legend2440> sharperguy: in hardy open nautilus then edit>prefs>media but no easy way to change default apps to use
[13:56] <cq> joaopinto: ok, so backup the system with Rsync, ignore DBs and back them up separately
[13:56] <Blue112> and I want it to have the repositories apache version AND the same version that the older
[13:56] <Blue112> :)
[13:56] <joaopinto> cq, yes
[13:56] <cq> simple enough, thanks
[13:56] <sajuuk> oh another question, KDE doesn't detect some of my external drives, such as my memory stick, Ipod and such
[13:57] <sajuuk> but GNOME does
[13:57] <sharperguy> legend2440, hmm, i see. Is there a gconf thing I can change maybe?
[13:57] <cecko> what am i doing wrong? "sudo mkdosfs -F 32 -n 4g /dev/mmcblk0p1" says "unable to open /dev/mmcblk0p1"
[13:58] <cecko> it is umounted
[13:58] <jeed> Blue112, youll have to src compile one way or the other, use a package manager and itll screw it up
[13:58] <cecko> an SD card
[13:58] <Blue112> jeed: Where do I find the 2.0.55 apache src ?
[13:58] <Myrtti> cecko: how about mkfs.vfat?
[13:58] <soundray> cecko: it should have a /dev/sd? device name assigned to it
[13:59] <jeed> Blue112, the apache site? itll surely have archives
[13:59] <cecko> soundray it does not qtparted/gparted does not see it at all
[13:59] <joaopinto> cecko, that that device get shown when you do a sudo fdisk -l ?
[13:59] <jeed> Blue112, seems they have 2.0.63, isnt that close enough?
[13:59] <legend2440> sharperguy: no. but here is an example of how to change video player to vlc.  its pretty stupid that they left out an easy way to do it but oh well         http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=770970
[14:00] <joaopinto> if the partition is not "seen", you can't format it
[14:00] <soundray> cecko: run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' and see what happens when you insert the card
[14:00] <alexfire> heyy
[14:00] <sharperguy> legend2440, gmm, ok i'll have a look at this
[14:00] <cecko> joaopinto it does
[14:00] <jrib> legend2440: it's a fault of the .desktop file for vlc
[14:00] <jeed> Blue112, http://archive.apache.org/dist/httpd/httpd-2.0.55.tar.bz2
[14:00] <jeed> google is good
[14:01] <cecko> soundray is this any useful? "mmcblk1: mmc0:b368"  then  "mmcblk1: p1"
[14:02] <archie> hello
[14:02] <archie> anybody home?
[14:02] <dr_Willis> archie,  just us penguins
[14:03] <cecko> joaopinto it lists only /dev/mmcblk1p1
[14:03] <voy> Is it possible to check which package a certain file belongs too, for instance ieee80211_crypt.ko?
[14:03] <dr_Willis> !find ieee80211_crypt.ko
[14:03] <voy> great :)
[14:03] <soundray> cecko: what does 'sudo mkdosfs -F 32 -n 4g /dev/mmcblk1p1' give you?
[14:03] <dr_Willis> voy,  the apt tools can do that. :) or the bot here.. seems to be in the kernel image packages..
[14:03] <voy> thx for that dr_Willis
[14:04] <LaneLimited> Hello everyone.. Simple question here I hope... Anyone know why when I load then try to RESTORE Amarok music player rand organizer it decides to log me out of ubuntu???!!!
[14:04] <Blue112> jeed: Ok, the two version are compiling... I have to do the same with php I guess ? But the, how can I say to apache to use a php version or an other ?
[14:04] <cecko> soundray mkdosfs: unable to open /dev/mmcblk1p1
[14:05] <archie> am totally new to ubuntu.. just upgraded my hardy... soooo great!! hehe
[14:05] <soundray> cecko: it's not a SDHC device that you're trying to use in an SD-only reader?
[14:05] <jeed> Blue112, use --prefix= in the configure line and do something like, put apache in /usr/local/apache with its php in /usr/local/apache/php and put the others in /usr/local/apache2 and /usr/local/apache2/php, then they dont go near eachother
[14:05] <inertial> hey anyone using a 64 bit build of firefox 3 beta 5 on linux?
[14:05] <Drittponken> when using iwconfig, why doesnt it connect to the ap. i cant use "commit"
[14:06] <adam7> inertial: yeah
[14:06] <lejon> inertial, yes
[14:06] <soundray> inertial: yes
[14:06] <inertial> adam7, lejon, soundray can you guys have a look at this bug for me? check the testcase and see what happens https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=436485
[14:06] <cecko> soundray I guess not, it says High speed 150x SD (4 gigs), my laptop is little over 2 years old thinkpad
[14:07] <Blue112> jeed: Ok, for the prefix, it's what I've done. I'll try that with php.
[14:07] <jeed> Blue112, aslong as you dont mix their configs and libs, youll be fine, tested method
[14:08] <cecko> soundray but the reader is probably not sdhc
[14:08] <adam7> inertial: yeah, I'm getting the same thing
[14:08] <inertial> adam7: ah, good to know it's not just me
[14:08] <lejon> inertial, the tab froze when I tried to open the testcase
[14:08] <coobster> hi guys
[14:08] <lejon> hi mate
[14:08] <inertial> lejon: yep that's what i'm getting too
[14:08] <coobster> im trying to install ubuntu on my dell desktop
[14:08] <lejon> inertial, weir
[14:08] <lejon> weird*
[14:08] <inertial> lejon: now i need to see if it's not just ubuntu
[14:08] <adam7> inertial: that's rather irritating ;)
[14:08] <coobster> but it only gets so far then the graphics are all messed
[14:08] <coobster> can anyone help me?
[14:08] <inertial> lejon: i'm considering spending a lot of time trying to fix it so i'm just confirming it..
[14:09] <soundray> cecko: so perhaps try with a sdhc reader?
[14:09] <lejon> coobster, try to explain more what the problem is
[14:09] <coobster> im trying to install the latest version of ubuntu....
[14:09] <Blue112> jeed: I don't have a php directory on the apache directory... Should I create it ?
[14:09] <coobster> i chose to install ubuntu
[14:09] <lejon> inertial, hehe yeah, would suck if its just you that have the issue and then you've spent hours and hours to fix it for hardly any use :P
[14:09] <coobster> it shows ubuntu logo screen splash screen
[14:09] <soundray> coobster: keep it all on one line please
[14:09] <ne2k__> who was I chatting to earlier about PPTP? I lost my irc history when I rebooted
[14:09] <coobster> after that my monitor displays whole bunch of green lines
[14:09] <lejon> !enter | coobster
[14:09] <jeed> Blue112, php will create it if its not there when you specify --prefix= for it
[14:09] <soundray> ne2k__: me
[14:09] <coobster> is their like a safe mode i would be looking for?
[14:09] <Blue112> Ok thanks
[14:10] <lejon> well, do you come to the login window?
[14:10] <coobster> no
[14:10] <coobster> i havent even installed it yet....but i'am trying to....
[14:10] <ne2k__> soundray: ah yes, that's the nick! how you doing? I rebooted and it all came up perfectly. No problems at all. thanks for your help. should I report this as a bug?
[14:11] <coobster> the computer got a nvidia 6800 256mb video card if that helps
[14:11] <ne2k__> soundray: (I remembered it began with an 's' but there are quite a few nicks beginning with 's' in this channel... ;-))
[14:11] <Agion> Can anyone help me with my Enemy Territory, it doesn't work properly. It goes down when I try to connect a server
[14:12] <lejon> coobster, hmm, it sounds like you've got problems either with ur monitor or card, have you checked the CD integrity?
[14:12] <coobster> wait
[14:12] <Pezi> xchat crashes..
[14:12] <coobster> i am trying to do a safe grapics mode..i didint see that option till now
[14:12] <lejon> did you burn it on the lowest speed you have available on ur burner?
[14:12] <Pezi> grr
[14:12] <joaopinto> Agion, erm, wine or native ?
[14:12] <lejon> Yeah, that might help
[14:12] <jeroen__> hello
[14:12] <soundray> ne2k__: not sure whether you should report it or not. It'll be hard to reproduce... We should have checked whether logging out & in would have been enough, or even just reloading nm-applet
[14:12] <coobster> i got vista on it now..and it works without a problem so i doubt my monitor or vid card
[14:13] <Agion> joaopinto: native
[14:13] <lejon> hi Jeroen__
[14:13] <joaopinto> Agion, run it from the terminal and check for any error messages
[14:13] <lejon> as far as I know vista doesn't like when you dual boot, search the forum for dual-boot howto, there are quite a few
[14:13] <Agion> when it goes down?
[14:13] <coobster> i hope ill like ubuntu more than vista
[14:13] <Pezi> My Java wont work.. i just install it with synaptic and nothing happens. about:plugins show nothing about java
[14:13] <lejon> vista is a pain if you want my opinion xD
[14:14] <jeroen__> can someone tell me iff gps is working in Buntu 8.4?
[14:14] <adam7> Pezi: are you using 32bit or 64bit?
[14:14] <joaopinto> lejon, vista has no problems with dual boot
[14:14] <eix> hi all. I am getting: Kernel Panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
[14:14] <jeroen__> @pezi look for ubuntu restricted
[14:14] <eix> how can I fix this problem?? :(
[14:14] <soundray> jeroen__: satellite navigation?
[14:14] <lejon> joaopinto, my friend have had problems with vista and dual-booting and ive heard several others have it too
[14:14] <jeroen__> @soundray yes
[14:14] <Agion> joaopinto: no error messages when opening the game...
[14:14] <Ziroday> Can someoone have a look and please tell me why autoconf is failing http://pastebin.com/m4780e14a
[14:14] <coobster> my graphics is fixed...i now can install thxs guys
[14:15] <coobster> i gotta shutdown to save laptop battery power
[14:15] <lejon> no problem mate :) join the club :P
[14:15] <jeed> i never had a problem with linux+ vista dual boot using grub
[14:15] <soundray> jeroen__: if you have a device that delivers NMEA codes, then yes, there is Ubuntu software that will read it.
[14:15] <joaopinto> lejon, that is most like a lack of understanding (user's problem)
[14:15] <lejon> What did you install first, vista or ubuntu?
[14:15] <soundray> !info gpsd | jeroen__
[14:15] <soundray> !info gpsdrive | jeroen__
[14:15] <AlexCONRAD> hi, how to I make my network card to be "activated" during boot ? which parameter should I change from the config file ?
[14:16] <joaopinto> Agion, I mean, when you try to connect to the server, maybe you get some msg on the terminal
[14:16] <gordonjcp> AlexCONRAD: What exactly are you trying to do?
[14:16] <jeroen__> i'm a fanatic biker and if im gonna bike 150km i want to preprogram my gps
[14:16] <lejon> joaopinto, I doubt that, I go in a computer specialized school and the friend is a programmer in the same school :P so its not that, its just that everytime he had run ubuntu, he had to run vista with "the last good runing config"
[14:16] <soundray> jeroen__: what's your device?
[14:16] <jeroen__> still looking to buy one Soundray
[14:16] <joaopinto> Ziroday, you need intltool
[14:16] <Agion> joaopinto, When I try to connect a server the whole system goes down and I only see black screen... I can restart x-server
[14:17] <joaopinto> lejon, again, like I told you, there is no problem to dual boot Ubuntu and Vista
[14:17] <internal> joaopinto: now I feel correctly stupid :), thank you very much
[14:17] <joaopinto> internal, np :)
[14:18] <eix> nobody got this error? :( Kernel Panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
[14:18] <lejon> joaopinto, Ive heard that there is, and got confirmation that it dislikes dual-booting (like XP does too -.-)
[14:18] <PPKuma> hi, do you guys know how to make shortcuts in terminal commands? I'm tired of typing "gnome-terminal" and wish i could only type "term"
[14:18] <AlexCONRAD> gordonjcp: after an automatic (preseed) install, going in Applications > System > Network shows that my eth0 is not enabled by default. How can I change this? Really my question is: when i'll check the "enable this conection" checkbox, which setting/config file is it modifing on disk so I can reproduce this setup on my automated installation disk (customized alternate CD)
[14:18] <joaopinto> eix, that is a severe problem, either because of a kernel bug, a fault driver, or an hw fault
[14:18] <lejon> joaopinto, its all just to configure both OSes a little and you get it to work, Ive had to do that
[14:18] <soundray> jeroen__: most all-in-one satnavs come only with Windows software. It's difficult to maintain them with Linux (planning routes, uploading maps etc.)
[14:18] <Agion> joaopinto: any ideas? How could I shut down the game when it errors to see the error?
[14:19] <jeroen__> @soundray so its not a good idea?
[14:19] <joaopinto> Agion, if you run it from the terminal in case there is an error it should be logged there
[14:19] <Myrtti> !list
[14:19] <Myrtti> so
[14:19] <joaopinto> if you quit from the game you should be able to see it
[14:19] <jeroen__> or should i use wine?
[14:19] <Agion> how can I see the log after restarting the X-server?
[14:20] <joaopinto> Agion, ah, the X server is restarting ?
[14:20] <elementz> hey everybody
[14:20] <soundray> jeroen__: I maintain my Tomtom from Mac OS X. Don't know whether the Windows software would run in wine
[14:20] <jeroen__> ah ok
[14:20] <lejon> jeroen__, its probably worth a shot to test if it works with wine
[14:20] <jeroen__> @lejon thanks !
[14:20] <Agion> joaopinto: kinda, i cant get away from the black screen so i must restart it...
[14:21] <Pezi> Vista with sp1 is working OS.. and its true
[14:21] <jeroen__> my local shops telling me to screw linux and go at ms
[14:21] <xnv> Is this the "real" Firefox 3 the latest update sent me? The web site hasn't announced its release yet.
[14:21] <lejon> jeroen__, if it works, then it works, otherwise it doesnt :)
[14:21] <joaopinto> Agion, well, you could switch to a console, CTRL-ALT-F1, and kill the et process
[14:21] <jeroen__> how do i get wine?
[14:21] <jeroen__> and how does it work?
[14:21] <joaopinto> that should get you back to X to check the terminal, without restarting it
[14:21] <synt> I have a problem with numlock or something, i can't use the numpad at all all it does is move the mouse. any idea on how to get it back?
[14:21] <lejon> jeroen__, install it from synaptics or go to their homepage
[14:21] <joaopinto> jeroen__, wine is available from the software repositories
[14:22] <Agion> joaopinto: I try it... brb
[14:22] <jeroen__> Thanks
[14:22] <jeroen__> i'm installing it now brb
[14:22] <Pezi> My Java wont work.. i just install it with synaptic and nothing happens. about:plugins show nothing about java
[14:22] <joaopinto> xnv, it's rc1
[14:22] <joaopinto> Pezi, have you restarted firefox ?
[14:22] <Pezi> yeawh.
[14:22] <theFATMAN> how do I use custom icon themes in the gnome desktop? and can I use a theme from www.kde-look.org?
[14:22] <jeroen__> installing
[14:22] <Pezi> Maybe i shall boot ubuntu
[14:22] <Pezi> ?
[14:23] <john_> can i have different backgrounds in different workspaces
[14:23] <joaopinto> Pezi, that should not make a difference
[14:23] <Pezi> agree that
[14:23] <lejon> theFATMAN, there is a integrated theme installer in gnome, you can get to it if you go to system>preferences>apperance
[14:23] <Pezi> but it doesnt still work
[14:23] <jeroen__> ok now i'm gonna look for mapsource software
[14:23] <theFATMAN> lejon: thank you, i overlooked it somehow
[14:23] <lejon> theFATMAN, there you can customize ur own theme
[14:24] <lejon> theFATMAN, no problem ;)
[14:24] <john_> can i have different backgrounds in different workspaces
[14:24] <putti> not on gnome john
[14:24] <lejon> john_, I think not
[14:25] <lejon> john_, maybe if you manage to get the system to recognize them as different desktop and not just a clone of the first desktop
[14:25] <john_> is it possible in kde
[14:25] <jeroen__> do i need mapsource or are ther freeware applications?
[14:25] <jeroen__> sorry i'm dutch bad spelling sorry
[14:25] <john_> can u give some more info plz..
[14:25] <lejon> I dunno, google it?
[14:25] <soundray> !info gpsdrive | jeroen__
[14:26] <prabu> hello
[14:26] <lejon> john_, I haven't tried kde myself so I wouldn't know, but maybe try to check features or such in kubuntu.org homepage? or google kde and try to find if someone knows :P
[14:26] <jeroen__> installing GPS drive also
[14:26] <lejon> hi prabu
[14:26] <john_> thank u
[14:26] <lejon> no problem :P
[14:27] <prabu> i think i hav to gather knowledge lol @soundray
[14:27] <john_> i have installed compiz & i have tried but i did not get it
[14:27] <jeroen__> Wow i think with wine its gonna work
[14:27] <prabu> hi lejon
[14:27] <lejon> john_, what did you not get? How it works? or that it didn't work with different desktop backgrounds?
[14:28] <Pezi> Why everytime when i open synaptic ask to update prog list?
[14:28] <lejon> Pezi, so that when you do a search the list is always up to date
[14:28] <lejon> pezi, so that you always can find the latest packages
[14:28] <jeroen__> in gps drive how do i import the netherlands map?
[14:28] <Pezi> but everytime?
[14:28] <sharpe> weird, amarok is pegging the cpu at 8-12% when its sat in the tray not playing anything..
[14:28] <synt> no one heard of my numlock problem?
[14:29] <lejon> Pezi, yeah that is needed for it to not download removed packages and such
[14:29] <joaopinto> john_, you can have backgrounds per workspace using an app named wallpapoz
[14:29] <prabu> lejon : do u know how to get kiba dock ?
[14:29] <Pezi> but i just update the list..
[14:29] <Pezi> second ago
[14:29] <lejon> prabu, I have no experience with kiba dock sorry, but I gotta go now :P
[14:29] <lejon> Cya all laterz :P
[14:29] <john_> from where can i get it
[14:29] <Agion> joaopinto: couldn't get any reports on after going to console mode...
[14:29] <prabu> c ya
[14:29] <joaopinto> Agion, :(
[14:30] <Agion> joaopinto, any ideas?
[14:30] <rbd> hi guys. I'd like to install java-package, but have it so that it automatically selects the Sun Java v5 JRE (e.g. for batch/automated installs). Is there a way to do this?
[14:30] <joaopinto> Agion, no :(
[14:31] <Agion> how could I get back from the console to the graphic mode?
[14:31] <sharpe> god I hate flash, no plugin should peg an AMD64-X24600+ at 46% to play an iron maiden video :|
[14:31] <Frogzoo> sharpe: maybe time to move amarok to mysql? how many songs in your library?
[14:31] <Agion> Is there skype for linux?
[14:31] <joaopinto> Agion, CTRL-ALT-F6
[14:31] <elementz> totally messed up my audio settings under ubuntu: my audio card is an external "audigy nx 2" usb card, here's my lsmod and my alsa-base: http://pastebin.com/d3ef6f40b  http://pastebin.com/d2493b873
[14:31] <Agion> ok
[14:31] <legend2440> synt  try hitting shift+numlock
[14:31] <joaopinto> Agion, yes there is, just get it from the skype web site
[14:31] <sharpe> >Frog, 0, I use it solely for streaming
[14:31] <Agion> ok
[14:32] <Agion> ty
[14:32] <sharpe> dont have a single mp3 on my system, ISP got all fascist about downloading so I stopped
[14:32] <elementz> does anybody have a clue what is going wrong? i've started commenting out and changing the indexes of the audio cards, but to no avail
[14:32] <jeroen__> Thanks Everyone !!
[14:32] <elementz> switched off the onboard card in bios, but still no sound
[14:32] <elementz> guys, your help really is needed here ;-)
[14:32] <synt> legend2440, no go
[14:32] <Theo_> In shell scripts how do you go to a particular part of the script? in windows batch files its goto place1 and the script will go there and do that part of it
[14:33] <sharpe> what type of script, BASH?
[14:33] <Theo_> yeah
[14:33] <Lunar_Lamp> Theo_: you're wanting to do loops? Or are you wanting to perform a function?
[14:33] <legend2440> synttry it a few times and try with other shift key a few times
[14:33] <Theo_> loops
[14:33] <legend2440> synt     try it a few times and try with other shift key a few times
[14:33] <joaopinto> Theo_, there is no such feature on bash, "goto" is banned from structured programming
[14:33] <sharpe> function do_something { commands } then just call do_something in the script
[14:34] <Lunar_Lamp> I think you might need to read a basic introduction to bash scripting - there are a fair few out there if you google.
[14:34] <Theo_> why is it banned? windows still has it?
[14:34] <sharpe> sorry should have said, goto is replaced with functions since bash isnt a retarded basic clone ;)
[14:34] <sharpe> Theo, windows doesnt have goto, windows scripting language does which says a great deal about MS
[14:34] <prabu> any1 using kiba dock ???
[14:34] <Theo_> thanks
[14:35] <joaopinto> Theo_, erm, I mean it is considered to be a bad practice, a well structured algorithm does not "go to" :P
[14:35] <Theo_> but in mine at the end of my script it says "there was a problem. hit enter to try again" how do i make it try again?
[14:36] <sharpe> goto is considered a dangerous command in *any* program language since it allows you to escape from any block of code and are unpredictable, you can jump from any point to any other point
[14:36] <aron_> Aron Xie
[14:36] <sharpe> of course goto can be useful but you need to be sufficently competent to know when its acceptible to use a goto
[14:36] <joaopinto> TheFool, try again implies a loop, something that you repeat until the answer is "no"
[14:36] <joaopinto> read about creating loops
[14:36] <sharpe> only time I (rarely) use them is to escape from a deeply nested function
[14:36] <GibbaTheHutt> is there a way to add directorys to the "places" menu in gnome to customise it ?
[14:37] <Theo_> ok i will research loops, thanks for all the help
[14:37] <sharpe> np
[14:37] <aron_> how to install Broadcom BCM412 Wireless Net
[14:37] <Bacta> Why is EVince such a piece of shit? It constantly crashes my system and soars to using 200 megs! WTF!!!
[14:37] <aron_> card driver
[14:37] <Agion> soaopinto: do I download feisty package for hardy?
[14:37] <Pici> !language | Bacta
[14:37] <synt> legend2440, nothing, still won't let me use anything on the numpad
[14:37] <joaopinto> Agion, you can't use feisty packages with hardy
[14:37] <Bacta> no I'm serious
[14:38] <Bacta> Why does this happen?
[14:38] <Agion> joaopinto: what package of skype do I download then?
[14:38] <joaopinto> Bacta, have you filled a bug report for it ?
[14:38] <legend2440> synt   numlock light is on?
[14:38] <joaopinto> Agion, ahh, skype, that package should work on hardy
[14:38] <sharpe> bacta, memory leaks becuase some programming languages arent garbage collected..
[14:38] <klaas_> gamesurge
[14:38] <Bacta> why should I have to file a bug report? You guys told me I wouldn't have any problems with the SIMPLE things like this
[14:38] <joaopinto> you should be able to install it by just clicking on the deb
[14:39] <joaopinto> Bacta, whoever told you there is no software with bugs, it's insane :)
[14:39] <putti> bacta, if  your are unhappy noone is forcing you to stay
[14:39] <Agion> joaopinto: I downloaded it and it says it can't save it on the folder..
[14:39] <Lunar_Lamp> GibbaTheHutt: yes :-)
[14:39] <Bacta> it's completely unbelievable that this POS package has been distributed so widely
[14:39] <synt> legend2440, yes, tried it off aswell
[14:39] <Bacta> and I accept software has bugs, I'm a software engineer by trade
[14:39] <aron_> quit
[14:39] <Bacta> but this is for a home machine
[14:39] <joaopinto> Bacta, I never had crashes or any other issues with evince, if you do, please fill a bug report
[14:39] <synt> hmm wonder if i can get it back by a restart
[14:39] <sharpe> can think of exactly two pieces of software that are near bug free (even those arent bug free)
[14:39] <sharpe> the Shuttle onboard software and TeX
[14:40] <Lunar_Lamp> GibbaTheHutt: open up the filebrowser (nautilus) and go to where you want to go etc, and then click bookmarks>save bookmark (or ctrl+D)
[14:40] <Bacta> why should it balloon to 200 megs when I open a 75k pdf file?
[14:40] <GibbaTheHutt> ah many thanks Lunar_Lamp
[14:40] <sharpe> sounds like a truly horrible memory leak
[14:41] <Bacta> it does
[14:41] <arrow> when I dl torrents it nearly completely freezes the internet connection on all the other computers in the house.  I've tried making so that it only dls at 200 Kb/s but that doesn't help, any ideas?
[14:41] <Lunar_Lamp> Bacta: it shouldn't. But apparently you have found a serious bug, possibly as that PDF is using a rare feature.  We won't know unless you file a bug report though.
[14:41] <legend2440> syntperhaps if not maybe try post #3   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=514554
[14:41] <legend2440> synt      perhaps if not maybe try post #3   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=514554
[14:42] <sharpe> Bacta, you using KDE ?
[14:42] <Bacta> sharpe: no
[14:42] <sharpe> and how are you measuring the memory usage?
[14:42] <phillmathis> hello
[14:42] <Bacta> well it happens with this one pdf file, not all of them but seriously ... this is not good enough!
[14:42] <Bacta> System Monitor
[14:42] <bazhang> Bacta, which pdf
[14:42] <sharpe> ah, anyone else know, does the system monitor usage include shared libraries (I dont use it)
[14:42] <sharpe> ?
[14:42] <Agion> ﻿ joaopinto: I downloaded it and it says it can't save it on the folder..
[14:43] <phillmathis>  does anyone know where i can go to get help with Freespace2open?
[14:43] <legend2440> synt      soryy meant post #5     http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=514554
[14:43] <Bacta> bazhang: A pdf file from my university, an exam paper
[14:43] <Lunar_Lamp> Bacta: would you send it to me so I can test here with the file?
[14:43] <bazhang> Bacta, only that one pdf?
[14:43] <Bacta> ok
[14:43] <Lunar_Lamp> I'll file a bug report so you don't have to if it affects me :-)
[14:44] <Lunar_Lamp> (see PM for email address)
[14:44] <Bacta> Lunar_Lamp: thanks :)
[14:45] <synt> legend2440,  wee post #3 helped
[14:45] <prabu> lunar lamp: do u know how to install kiba dock ?
[14:45] <legend2440> synt   ok good
[14:45] <Chosen320> Hi everyone... I'm new to linux and havn't used IRC in over 10 years :) ... was wondering if someone would like to help me with a newb query regarding how to use chmod... any volunteer?
[14:45] <phillmathis> what file type does it come as?
[14:45] <synt> thank you very much legend2440
[14:45] <Lunar_Lamp> prabu: I seem to recall there being some good guides on ubuntuforums.org - but I haven't used it in aaaages, so I'm not familiar.
[14:45] <dbmoodb1> Chosen320: in what facet ?
[14:45] <PPKuma> hi, do you guys know how to make shortcuts in terminal commands? I'm tired of typing "gnome-terminal" and wish i could only type "term"
[14:46] <phillmathis> chmod isn't too bad - its a google answer tho
[14:46] <dbmoodb1> PPKuma: man alias
[14:46] <cens0red> Chosen320 that's what we're here for.
[14:46] <prabu> ok
[14:46] <Pici> PPKuma: Add an alias to your ~/.bashrc
[14:46] <PPKuma> thanks dbmoodb1
[14:46] <Lunar_Lamp> PPKuma: edit your ~/.bashrc file to include something like: alias term=gnome-terminal
[14:47] <Lunar_Lamp> Sorry, that "gnome-terminal" should be in single quotes: 'gnome-terminal'
[14:47] <Lunar_Lamp> However, I would be curious to know why you're typing "gnome terminal" to open a new terminal anyway :-)
[14:47] <daftykins> hi all, i have my server's NTFS windows drives mounted via SMB on my ubuntu 8.04 64-bit install, but the character encoding is causing issues.
[14:47] <Lunar_Lamp> I, personally, use the keyboard shortcuts in gnome to bind "win+t" to open a new terminal.
[14:47] <dbmoodb1> daftykins: how so ?
[14:47] <daftykins> i've got a music folder of the band "KoRn" but with the backwards "R" and it fails to read it and the contents within
[14:47] <daftykins> any solutions?
[14:48] <L7D> hello i´m from argentina
[14:48] <Chosen320> Thanks... I'll chat to dbmoodb1
[14:48] <dbmoodb1> daftykins: amarok it :)
[14:48] <daftykins> ja i'm using amarok
[14:48] <L7D> oh thanks for the welcome
[14:48] <dbmoodb1> well why not just fix the naming
[14:48] <daftykins> but it's a file system issue, not a player issue
[14:48] <erUSUL> !es | L7D
[14:48] <Lunar_Lamp> daftykins: you might want to try the samba channel - that is probably not ubuntu specific, and I'm not sure of the way to edit samba encoding issues, but I'm sure it's a simple config file edit.
[14:48] <daftykins> yeah i have temporarily renamed them to fix, but i'm a perfectionist ;)
[14:49] <daftykins> ok thanks Lunar_Lamp
[14:49] <daftykins> good idea
[14:49] <L7D> <@  ubottu @>· thanks, but i´m trying to talk in english
[14:49] <eolo999> hi, who knows hot to change input device to record with sox?
[14:50] <praz> hey, could someone help me with getting the sound to work on a MacBook?
[14:50] <jatt> how can I check if my network card is in full duplex mode.
[14:51] <erUSUL> jatt: sudo ethtool eth<n>
[14:51] <guysoft42> hey all, i am running grub-update to update my grub, to hold the new kernel , it says it finds the kernel, but it doesn't add it to /etc/grub/menu.lst. any reason why?
[14:51] <phillmathis> so on a random note - anyone seen the new indy film?
[14:51] <erUSUL> !ot
[14:52] <phillmathis> sorry it was just a jpke
[14:52] <Keddy> Hi there, i've the dvd iso of hardy...i installed it..but i think it made a minimum install(like installing from cdrom)...i want some extra packages to instal..but when i use package manager and select what i need, it tries to download the packages..but i've the dvd so no need to download ..right..how can i fix this ?
[14:52] <erUSUL> L7D: solo para que lo supieras ;)
[14:52] <jatt> erUSUL: great that's it, thanks. I get:
[14:52] <jatt>         Duplex: Full
[14:52] <erUSUL> jatt: no problem
[14:52] <praz> hi, can someone please help me with sound on a MacBook?
[14:53] <Kartagis> what package is tr part of?
[14:53] <danbhfive> !sources > Keddy
[14:53] <^ick> praz: whats the problem?
[14:54] <praz> i followed the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ to get the sound to work
[14:54] <praz> and it isn't
[14:54] <Zubbb> hello, someone is using hardy php5 (version 5.2.4-2ubuntu5.1)? it seems like it has a bug interpreting HEREDOC string syntax... can someone try and see if this ( http://pastebin.org/42803 ) runs well on it?
[14:54] <praz> not quite sure what to do next...
[14:55] <funkyHat> Keddy: put the DVD in the drive, and in the package manager click on Tools > Repositories. On the 'Ubuntu Software' tab at the bottom you should be able to add the DVD to the list of used repositories
[14:56] <daftykins> back shortly
[14:56] <gomez_> salve
[14:56] <PPKuma> Lunar_Lamp i just add it the alias to my bashrc file. Does this modification work when i run the command with alt+f2?
[14:56] <PPKuma> *Will this
[14:57] <gomez_> buonasera
[14:57] <Lunar_Lamp> PPKuma: no, it won't.
[14:57] <xTOGx> ok, so i'm stuck at install software.  any suggestions?
[14:57] <Lunar_Lamp> Alt+F2 is not a terminal, sorry, I think we may have misunderstood you.
[14:57] <xTOGx> i mean, do i need to finish the "install software" step or is that just for extrs?
[14:58] <Lunar_Lamp> The alias will only work when you type it in a terminal (which is why I wondered why you wanted to do it)
[14:58] <PPKuma> I see...
[14:58] <rouini> how to
[14:58] <PPKuma> any idea on how to do it?
[14:58] <danbhfive> Zubbb: I tested it, and it fails, but if you use a diff terminating string, its fine
[14:59] <Lunar_Lamp> PPKuma: are you sure that creating a launcher (icon) to click isn't a better solution?
[14:59] <poosenki> i just updated firefox and now it doesn't seem to launch anymore. does anyone else have the same problem?
[14:59] <PPKuma> Lunar_Lamp: i already have one... but im a mouse detractor.
[14:59] <rouini> is there a web browser better than firefox
[14:59] <putti> no
[14:59] <xnv> What's the right file for adding environment variables and stuff? .profile, .bashrc?
[14:59] <PPKuma> rouini: no NO! NOT EVER!
[14:59] <erUSUL> !best | rouini
[15:00] <Guest62013> I've used Opera with Ubuntu an found it quite satisfactory
[15:00] <genii> rouini: Firefox which has been optimised for your system.
[15:00] <PPKuma> rouini: j/k there's a lot of browsers, check out Opera and Safari, they are pretty neat too
[15:00] <xTOGx> why might i run into a problem in the (select and install software) portion of my xubuntu installation?
[15:00] <putti> safari is not for linux
[15:00] <rohan> i just saw that firefox has been updated to rc1. i can't see the logic - if the final release is going to be out soon, then why update to rc1?
[15:01] <rohan> and if at all update, why to rc1, and not rc2?
[15:01] <Guest62013> Isn't Safari for Apple?
[15:01] <putti> OSX and windows
[15:01] <sharpe> >rohan, standard way of doing it
[15:01] <danbhfive> Zubbb: are you posting a bug report?
[15:01] <andersfeder> rohan: how do you see its RC1? i cant even see the version number
[15:01] <erUSUL> rohan: rc1 is only aviable on proposed for beta esting afaics
[15:01] <Zubbb> danbhfive, it works on other php5 servers and on php4
[15:01] <sharpe> it goes Alpha, Beta, RC, Release, or if your MS, Alpha, Release
[15:01] <rohan> andersfeder: apt-cache version firefox
[15:01] <Zubbb> danbhfive, will do it
[15:01] <Lunar_Lamp> rouini: some people like Opera which you might like to test. It's free, but closed source.
[15:01] <stupidknight> can somebody explain this to me, why is it happening? http://pastebin.com/m77337d7
[15:01] <andersfeder> rohan: ok ok, ty
[15:01] <rohan> andersfeder: err i am sorry -  apt-cache policy firefox-3.0
[15:01] <danbhfive> Zubbb: do you know what the bug is?
[15:01] <Lunar_Lamp> rouini: others enjoy using Konqueror and Epipheny (KDE and Gnome browsers respectively)
[15:02] <erUSUL> rohan: sorry i see it  on update now
[15:02] <rohan> erUSUL: so, i don't have proposed enabled, yet i'm getting it
[15:02] <rohan> right :)
[15:02] <danbhfive> Zubbb: can you post the link of your bug report?
[15:02] <pjotr> galeon
[15:02] <Zubbb> danbhfive, when i file it
[15:02] <camason> hi guys
[15:03] <leonardo> qa
[15:03] <xTOGx> anyone know anything about installing xubuntu?
[15:03] <nickrud> stupidknight have you checked to see if ubuntu-keyring is installed?
[15:03] <leonardo> cerco il canale in italiano , qualcuno sa aiutarmi?
[15:03] <RADEON> IRC.TIN.IT
[15:03] <magnetron> !it | leonardo
[15:04] <rohan> also, i did aptitude dist-upgrade and it wants to install lot of new python related packages, and apturl. which update is causing this?
[15:04] <leonardo> grazie
[15:04] <legend2440> PPKuma: if you install    nautilus-open-terminal   and reboot it adds a context menu so when you right click you have option   Open Terminal  from any folder. eliminates need for cd to folder and you can click it twice and have two instances of terminal open
[15:04] <stupidknight> nickrud: ah, installing the ubuntu-keyring helped, didn't think of that since it asked for debian-keyring :) new to this, tanks!
[15:05] <rouini> lunar_lamp :how make skype works better
[15:05] <nickrud> legend2440 not necessary to reboot, just   alt-f2 killall nautilus  (restarts nautilus) will do
[15:05] <PPKuma> legend2440: that's rich, should i install it with apt-get?
[15:05] <Lunar_Lamp> rouini: define "better" - what's not working with it at the moment?
[15:06] <legend2440> nickrud: ok thanks
[15:06] <PPKuma> wouldn be a way to make the shortcut (term -> gnome-terminal) with a symbolic link?
[15:06] <legend2440> PPKuma: sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[15:07] <idolguy> I've been using Ubuntu for 2 weeks now and find it to be an exceptional operating system.
[15:07] <rohan> idolguy: great :)
[15:07] <nickrud> PPKuma you can assign a keycombo to open the terminal, but it opens in the home directory
[15:07] <PPKuma> idolguy: why 'idol'? do you dig japanese idols? xD
[15:07] <rouini> LUNAR_LAMP:is there a software work like skype
[15:07] <xTOGx> ok, this is my 5th time trying to install xubuntu.  i've tried different mirror sites. every one has said it's a successful burn. i've tried the alternate install cd.  i've had problems almost every step of the way
[15:08] <xTOGx> and now i'm stuck on "select and install software"
[15:08] <xTOGx> it just won't do it
[15:08] <stupidknight> nickrud: how about this issue, maybe you could help me with this one aswell, http://pastebin.com/d40420ffe
[15:08] <daftykins> so stop using a modified version of ubuntu...
[15:08] <daftykins> and use the normal...
[15:08] <idolguy> Lol, PPKuma...just a nickname I've had for years...
[15:08] <daftykins> surely you're not that desperate to use xfce.
[15:08] <icqnumber> rouini, there is skype
[15:08] <PPKuma> idolguy: oh, ok  xD
[15:08] <ASULutzy> daftykins: xubuntu is easier on resources
[15:08] <daftykins> i know
[15:08] <ASULutzy> daftykins: Maybe that's why he needs to use it
[15:08] <daftykins> doesn't mean he can't install normal, then put xfce on that
[15:08] <xTOGx> it says "running tasksel" then "please wait" then it goes straight to INSTLLATION STEP FAILED
[15:09] <PPKuma> nickrud: ok, but i've grow esceptical with the keycombo... lately amarok is having problems with them.
[15:09] <daftykins> interesting
[15:09] <xTOGx> and the bright red screen is starting to scare the children
[15:09] <idolguy> Any long term disadvantages to using Wubi versus dual-booting Ubuntu on it's own partition?
[15:09] <nickrud> stupidknight try installing   libapache2-mod-php5
[15:09] <Lunar_Lamp> rouini: you can install skype in ubuntu, but new ubuntu installs come with an equivalent application by default - but I've forgotten it's name.
[15:09] <stupidknight> yea, I do, but that' doesn't work either?
[15:09] <nickrud> PPKuma ah, that's kde, whaddya expect ;)
[15:09] <stupidknight> nickrud: line 21
[15:09] <ASULutzy> idolguy: Yes, it's a bit more dangerous. A loss of power while running will be much worse than running it's own dedicated ext3 partition
[15:10] <sharpe> idol, a couple occur, since your hosting linux inside windows you are still weaker froma security point of view
[15:10] <xTOGx> is it possible that there's a problem with tasksel that it doesn't want to run?
[15:10] <sharpe> if you want to go solely linux you'll need to re-install
[15:10] <ASULutzy> idolguy: Wubi is not a long term solution, some Windows updates have the potential to hose it
[15:10] <PPKuma> nickrud: hmmm... that explains a lot... so, how do i make the combokey?
[15:10] <stupidknight> nickrud: It gives me the error that I don't have PHP5, Yet I do when I go installing php5
[15:10] <rouini> how to extract iso image in ubuntu
[15:10] <daftykins> the release you downloaded should have been labelled broken and not been available to use if setup wouldn't even work xTOGx
[15:10] <poosenki> i just updated firefox and now it doesn't launch. does anyone else  have the same issue?
[15:10] <nickrud> PPKuma system->prefs->keyboard shortcuts, look for open the terminal.
[15:10] <ne2k__> ASULutzy: why is that? how does wubi work?
[15:11] <idolguy> Hmm.   Can I convert my installation to a partioned system without losing my saved data/bookmarks/programs?
[15:11] <daftykins> delete ".mozilla" in your home folder poosenki
[15:11] <ASULutzy> ne2k__: There's a nice wiki article that can sum it up much better than I can, let me find it
[15:11] <PPKuma> nickrud: hmmm pretty cool, thanks a lot :)
[15:11] <ne2k__> idolguy: well, you could back up the /home directory to an external disk and then restore it, if nothing else
[15:11] <ASULutzy> ne2k__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(Ubuntu)
[15:11] <xTOGx> i need to know before i finish my installation if anyone knows that not installig the software will screw the pooch
[15:11] <nickrud> stupidknight there's an error about unmatching packages, php5-common not being correct. Sounds like mismatched sources. put a copy of /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin
[15:11] <nickrud> stupidknight didn't read far enough down, sorry :)
[15:12] <stupidknight> nickrud: :) np
[15:12] <stupidknight> nickrud: one sec.
[15:12] <Lunar_Lamp> rouini: it's called ekiga! That's the one, ekiga is a free skype-like applicatin that comes with ubutnu.
[15:13] <rouini> lunar_lamp: thank you my friend
[15:13] <ASULutzy> If you have a wubi install and want to move it to a dedicated partition, you can follow this article http://lubi.sourceforge.net/lvpm.html
[15:13] <stupidknight> nickrud: got stuck in the "spam" filter. http://rafb.net/p/5d6Crj19.html
[15:13] <poosenki> daftkins: alright, i tried that, but it still doesn't open
[15:13] <stupidknight> commented out the top once now only to try the earlier once
[15:13] <ne2k__> ASULutzy: cool. it says it's a file on windows -- does that mean it's reliant on the NTFS support in linux? I thought that was a bit iffy
[15:13] <rouini> lunar_lamp: how to extract ISO image in Ubuntu
[15:13] <daftykins> you folder was definitely entirely deleted?
[15:14] <ASULutzy> ne2k__: NTFS support has come a long long way, I would consider NTFS to be 100% supported now?
[15:14] <onats> my recently upgraded 8.04 fails to hibernate... how can i start to resolve this issue? what log files do i have to look at?
[15:14] <icqnumber> !iso | rouini
[15:14] <nickrud> stupidknight ok, those are really crippled sources. A sec
[15:14] <Lunar_Lamp> rouini: extract? Do you want to burn it, mount it, read the contents?
[15:14] <ne2k__> ASULutzy: ok, I must be on old info
[15:14] <daftykins> i wouldn't say 100%
[15:14] <ASULutzy> ne2k__: I read and write to most of my shared hard drives (which are NTFS) all day without any problems
[15:14] <stupidknight> nickrud: nice
[15:15] <ASULutzy> daftykins: Why not?
[15:15] <idolguy> Ubuntu has had quite good NTFS support for the 2 weeks I've been using it.
[15:15] <daftykins> 'cause it'll continue to change, such as with Vista etc, and i don't think Ubuntu would set up NTFS mounts as read only if it was perfect
[15:15] <daftykins> 100% to me means perfect
[15:15] <ASULutzy> I remember back in the day it was like the end of the world if you mounted NTFS in anything other than read only mode, but now there's really no problem so far as I can tell
[15:16] <daftykins> hehe
[15:16] <Lunar_Lamp> ASULutzy: aye, I remember those days too, hehe.
[15:16] <ASULutzy> Ubuntu doesn't set up NTFS as read only? You might not have permissions to write to the drive and need to be root if you didn't chown the stuff, but I can make files on an NTFS drive with Ubuntu out of the box
[15:16] <rouini> lunar-lamp:i want read its contents
[15:17] <daftykins> ah ok my bad
[15:17] <daftykins> maybe they changed that?
[15:17] <daftykins> i don't even try to use NTFS
[15:17] <daftykins> my file server's network based so i just use SMB
[15:17] <daftykins> so it's never come up really
[15:17] <ASULutzy> daftykins: Probably, NTFS used to be trouble, but now a days, it just sorta works ;)
[15:17] <Lunar_Lamp> rouini: then follow the link that ubottu sent you so that you can "mount" the iso.  When you have mounted it in a mountpoint, (a directory), travel to that directory to see the contents of the disc image.
[15:17] <xTOGx> ok, so i think i've just installed xubuntu
[15:17] <poosenki> i just updated firefox and now it doesn't launch anymore. does anyone know how to fix this?
[15:18] <ASULutzy> xTOGx: grats :P
[15:18] <idolguy> I found the answer to my question..I can transfer a Wubit installation to a regular partitioned system with LVPM.
[15:18] <joaopinto> poosenki, just reboot, i had the same issue
[15:18] <xTOGx> thanks :P
[15:18] <xTOGx> but all i've done is log in
[15:18] <icqnumber> daftykins, there is a ntfs-3g project they provide stable read/write access
[15:18] <ASULutzy> idolguy: I posted the link somewhere up there idolguy on how to do it :P
[15:18] <xTOGx> is it supposed to look similar to a DOS prompt?
[15:18] <daftykins> FYI i do not need everybody telling me about NTFS support now thanks
[15:18] <daftykins> i am not stupid.
[15:18] <naruttebayo> I changed the program that Ubuntu uses .exe (I thought I had to change it to wine, but it wasn't a windows executable), and now I need to change it back to the default. Can someone tell me what program that is?
[15:18] <icqnumber> !ntfs-3g | daftykins
[15:18] <daftykins> -_-
[15:19] <ASULutzy> lol
[15:19] <idolguy> Thanks, ASULutzy
[15:19] <ASULutzy> You asked for that one on the end :P
[15:19] <daftykins> you're lucky nobody has invented that device to stab people through the Internet icqnumber...
[15:19] <poosenki> joaopinto: oh, alright. thanks
[15:19] <naruttebayo> halp plz?
[15:19] <nickrud> stupidknight  do cd /etc/apt ; cp sources.list sources.list.pre-nickrud ; gksu gedit sources.list       then replace yours with what's here : http://rafb.net/p/wl7PKr98.html
[15:19] <pmk> how can i search inside doc files?
[15:19] <nickrud> stupidknight when you're done, let me know
[15:20] <ASULutzy> naruttebayo: Ubuntu doesn't open .exe's by default
[15:20] <ASULutzy> naruttebayo: Those are Windows executables, not Linux executables.
[15:20] <ASULutzy> naruttebayo: The only thing that opens .exe's in Ubuntu is wine
[15:20] <djp> Hi, my Ubuntu hardy is booting into low graphics mode.  running nvidia-setting says its not using the nvidia drivers but they show up in the restricted hardware drivers.  I tried installing the drivers directly from nvidias site but it still isn't working.
[15:20] <icqnumber> daftykins, ?
[15:20] <naruttebayo> So how can I open a binary executable? It said it was a linux release (I'm trying to install stepmania).
[15:20] <Kootie> Greetings all, does anyone know how i can use auto login and not have to enter the keychain password for nm-applet (when joining wirelessnetwork)?
[15:20] <Kootie> if I login manually, i don't have to enter the keychain password.
[15:21] <xTOGx> hey nickrud, you dont work for CISP do you?
[15:21] <ASULutzy> naruttebayo: You must have downloaded the wrong file. .exe is not a native linux file. It's a windows file
[15:21] <stupidknight> nickrud: yea, I'm done
[15:21] <nickrud> xTOGx no, don't even know what that is
[15:21] <pmk> how can i search inside doc files in gnome? i've lots of docs files and i want to find a string inside them, how can i do this?
[15:21] <xTOGx> nm
[15:21] <stupidknight> nickrud: should I do the apt-get update and try installing it all now?
[15:21] <nickrud> stupidknight ok, now run    sudo apt-get update
[15:21] <stupidknight> nickrud: done!
[15:21] <nickrud> lets see if I remember my dapper sources right first
[15:21] <ASULutzy> naruttebayo: http://www.stepmania.com/download.php?file=downloads/StepMania-3.9a-linux.tar.gz you want this
[15:21] <nickrud> ok, try installing stuff
[15:21] <daftykins> icqnumber, i don't appreciate being told what i know.
[15:22] <stupidknight> nickrud: yea, same error.
[15:22] <xTOGx> man i'm so lost
[15:22] <stupidknight> nickrud: unmet dependencies..
[15:22] <xTOGx> i just installed xubuntu, and now i have no idea what i'm doing
[15:22] <danbhfive> stupidknight: try a sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:22] <ASULutzy> xTOGx: lol, so why'd you install it :P
[15:22] <xTOGx> rofl :P
[15:22] <stupidknight> danbhfive: nice, stuff is happening
[15:22] <sharpe> becuase its fun
[15:22] <ASULutzy> xTOGx: There's probably a #xubuntu channel
[15:23] <Kootie> pmk: microsoft word doc files are usually encoded, but you can use grep -in "string" *.doc
[15:23] <xTOGx> best way to learn right ASULutzy?
[15:23] <xTOGx> fair enough
[15:23] <nickrud> stupidknight then possibly that plesk has installed a php of it's own that conflicts with php in dapper
[15:23] <ASULutzy> xTOGx: Well, I would argue installing it to a VM would be better, but sure ;)
[15:23] <pmk> Kootie: let me test it...
[15:23] <Gemmie78> Hello
[15:23] <sharpe> installed Gnome the other day (used KDE for 6 years) just to play with it
[15:23] <stupidknight> nickrud: yea, possibly, plesk has been nothing but trouble so far..
[15:23] <Gemmie78> Anyone here a pidgin ace?
[15:23] <xTOGx> well, i've got a machine that's been frankensteined together, it needed an OS
[15:23] <ASULutzy> xTOGx: those machines are always the most fun
[15:23] <Gemmie78> I think I screwed up my pidgin and now can't unscrew it up
[15:24] <ASULutzy> !ask | Gemmie78
[15:24] <xTOGx> ASULutzy oh, i know.  lemme tell ya.  fun fun fun
[15:24] <xTOGx> so doesn't ubuntu use a gui? and if so, how do i make it work?
[15:25] <sharpe> Ubuntu uses Gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE and XUbuntu uses XFCE
[15:25] <DarkAudit> is there an alternative to Rhythmbox or Banshee that will respect all the retagging I've done?
[15:25]  * xTOGx blinks audibly
[15:25] <pmk> Kootie: thanks! nautilus can't search inside files?
[15:25] <DarkAudit> xTOGx: not so loud :)
[15:25] <Kootie> not sure pmk, i mostly use command line
[15:26] <xTOGx> ok, so i'm on xubuntu, i'm using XFCE.  how do i turn it on?
[15:26] <xTOGx> :P
[15:26] <daftykins> turn what on...
[15:26] <xTOGx> the gui
[15:26] <Gemmie78> Basically I removed something from the top panel, which was related to pidgin, now when I close pidgin by clicking on the "X" the program will quit, beforehand I think it used to minimise
[15:26] <nickrud> xTOGx well I am in california, but I don't teach at the international studies program
[15:26] <daftykins> so you logged in and you see nothing?
[15:26] <icqnumber> daftykins,  did not look like that
[15:26] <nickrud> stupidknight I'd suggest trying to root out all the plesk stuff. tedious, obscure, but doable
[15:26] <Gemmie78> I want to go back to the program minimising when I "X" it, but playing around with one of the options doesn't help
[15:26] <daftykins> icqnumber, then look closer next time
[15:26] <Gemmie78> Is there a way to readd the pidgin thing back to the panel?
[15:26] <xTOGx> i'm logged in, i see black and white prompt
[15:27] <sharpe> try startx
[15:27] <daftykins> ah it's just given you a terminal
[15:27] <daftykins> no he's got X
[15:27] <daftykins> just no window manager
[15:27] <xTOGx> says nathan@ubuntu:~$
[15:27] <daftykins> by the sounds of it
[15:27] <daftykins> indeed
[15:27] <ASULutzy> DarkAudit: I <3 amarok, lots of other people like it too, check it out
[15:27] <FloodBot3> daftykins: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <FloodBot1> daftykins: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:27] <daftykins> ok type "sudo su
[15:27] <daftykins> enter your password, and then type "apt-get update"
[15:27] <Gemmie78> Anyone?
[15:27] <nickrud> daftykins better is to use  sudo -i
[15:27] <sharpe> dafty, startx doesnt just startx its a script that will start X11 then whatever WM/DE is default
[15:27] <icqnumber> daftykins, do blame things u have never tried, bacause you have said that u have never used ntfs
[15:28] <daftykins> no i said i've not used it recently, seriously just drop it icqnumber
[15:28] <DarkAudit> ASULutzy: I'm thinking *real* hard about that one :)
[15:28] <xTOGx> cool, it did something
[15:28] <daftykins> i told you i wasn't happy you telling me something i'm already familiar with, so let it go thanks
[15:28] <daftykins> now "apt-get dist-upgrade" xTOGx
[15:28] <ASULutzy> DarkAudit: I love it, I know it looks kinda funny in Gnome being a "KDE" app, but it's got more functionality than any other player I've encountered
[15:28] <xTOGx> it got some stuff, and said reading package lists... Done
[15:28] <daftykins> tell me if it asks to install any programs
[15:28] <daftykins> ok good that sounds like it's fine
[15:29] <daftykins> is it prompting to install anything?
[15:29] <xTOGx> apt-get dist-upgrade came back with a bunch of 0's
[15:29] <sharpe> iirc xubuntu doesnt install a login manager by default (lean and mean remember) so you need to type startx when you login
[15:29] <stupidknight> nickrud: yea, I'm thinking about it. One question though, how come I can login as root on my ubuntu installation? running 6.06, thought that root was disabled?
[15:29] <daftykins> zeros 0o
[15:29] <sharpe> its not any more complicated than that with a default install
[15:29] <daftykins> try "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" xTOGx
[15:29] <ASULutzy> stupidknight: You can enable root logins if you go out of your way to allow it
[15:30] <stupidknight> ASULutzy: k.
[15:30] <DarkAudit> ASULutzy: I've tried it before and really liked it... rhythbox is mangling tags even after I ran my mp3s through Picard :p
[15:30] <nickrud> stupidknight do sudo -i to get root terminal
[15:30] <icqnumber> !root | stupidknight
[15:30] <ASULutzy> heh that's a nice factoid ubottu
[15:30] <Gemmie78> Basically I want to restore the panel that pidgin used to have at the top
[15:30] <xTOGx> syas its gonna use more drive space... it wants me to insert the cd
[15:30] <nickrud> !noroot
[15:30] <Gemmie78> It was like partially green if someone sent you a message
[15:30] <D46> Hello. I have quite a problem.. I try to boot into Ubuntu, but the desktop never loads. It becomes unresponsive other than moving the mouse or RSEIUB.
[15:31] <ASULutzy> Gemmie78: I know how to fix it
[15:31] <Gemmie78> Now it's gone, and as soon as I close the window, the program quits instead of staying active but hidden
[15:31] <stupidknight> icqnumber: although, when I ssh onto my password I actually do have root account with password
[15:31] <Gemmie78> Hurrah :D
[15:31] <daftykins> yeah as default it will be configured to get software packages from the CD, which'll be good if your internet connection is slow xTOGx
[15:31] <ASULutzy> Gemmie78: I believe you can just open preferences, and under interface, have it say"Show system tray icon: Always"
[15:31] <stupidknight> err... virtual server
[15:31] <xTOGx> i'm on dsl
[15:31] <xTOGx> can i tell it to get from internet?
[15:31] <daftykins> well just put the disc in and we'll worry about that later
[15:31] <Gemmie78> It's currently on always
[15:32] <Gemmie78> But I cannot see it
[15:32] <spsneo> I want to invite few people from ubuntu to for invited lecture in our university technical festival. Where and whom to contact?
[15:32] <xTOGx> ok, i'll try the cdrom
[15:32] <nickrud> Gemmie78 and if that doesn't work, right click the panel, add to panel, and add the system tray
[15:32] <ASULutzy> nickrud: Oh lol, I didn't even think about not having the tray
[15:32] <J_P> hi all
[15:32] <D46> In /var/log/gdm/:0.log.4 there are a few thousand lines of "tossed event which came in late. mieqEnequeue: out -of-order valuator event; dropping."
[15:33] <J_P> people, ubuntu don't have more inittab ?
[15:33] <nickrud> Gemmie78 it's called the notification area in later ubuntus not the system tray
[15:33] <spsneo> I want to invite few people from ubuntu to for invited lecture in our university technical festival. Where and whom to contact? can anybody help me
[15:33] <tododoc> hat jemand ich hotwo für dualhead unter ubunt 8.04?
[15:34] <J_P> where I set one ubuntu if is init 2,3,4,5 if don't have more inittab ?
[15:34] <kushal1> hello, I installed KDE 4 on my ubuntu installation on a toshiba satellite. At that time, I chose to not make KDE my default desktop environment. How can I make the switch now?
[15:34] <Gemmie78> I cannot find the system tray
[15:34] <tododoc> sorry fc
[15:34] <Gemmie78> Okay cool looking now
[15:34] <D46> Looks like I'll never get any help.
[15:34] <D46> -.-
[15:34] <Gemmie78> Bingo it's done
[15:34] <daftykins> at the login screen press F10 kushal1, choose "select session" and change to KDE
[15:34] <Gemmie78> Notification area is spot on, you're a legend
[15:34] <pmk> Kootie: there is a way to search inside pdf files too?
[15:35] <daftykins> once you then enter your username and password it'll ask if you want to use KDE for just that login or for all future logins
[15:35] <kushal1> thanks daftykins
[15:35] <daftykins> np
[15:35] <archimedes> hi, can anyone tell me if i can use audio in teamspeak 2 and amarok music player using pulse audio?
[15:36] <ALLpt> how can i read videos with rmvb format?
[15:37] <D46> One more time. I boot my computer. When it goes to loading the desktop, it hangs. All becomes unresponsive except for moving the mouse. It never even gets to the login screen. Seemingly related, in /var/log/gdm/:0.log.4 there are a few thousand lines of "tossed event which came in late. mieqEnequeue: out-of-order valuator event; dropping."
[15:37] <Kootie> pmk:  im not sure, never really deal with them sorry
[15:37] <D46> Can anyone give me ANY lead on my problem?
[15:38] <Gemmie78> So now I shall try closing
[15:38] <Gemmie78> Fantastic it works
[15:38] <dfgas> is there a way to have ubuntu boot kinda like fedora where they have all the services loading you can hit f2 or what ever and see it or just keep the graphics up. they also have the mouse in that screen as well
[15:38] <dfgas> i want my ubuntu to look like that
[15:39] <Gemmie78> Fantastic, restoring the notification area works like a treat, fantastic, I'm so happy
[15:39] <D46> Driver problems? Will downgrading Xorg help?
[15:39] <D46> I'm glad you're happy Gemmie78. Got your Ubuntu system working. :)
[15:39] <D46> I can't even get to the login screen!
[15:40] <Gemmie78> I've been slowly tweaking my ubuntu
[15:40] <Gemmie78> This is so much better than other OS's and I didn't have to pay a single cent
[15:40] <D46> I'm slowly making no progress in fixing mine.
[15:40] <D46> Don't neglect the other Linuxes, Gemmie.
[15:40] <Gemmie78> I want to run Kubuntu for my mum on a really old laptop
[15:40] <Gemmie78> I think it would be fine
[15:40] <D46> Get familiar with Ubuntu, then try the others like Fedora, Slackware, hell.. even LFS.
[15:40] <daftykins> erk that scared the life out of me, ubuntu using optical seems a bit sketchy with how my speakers work - it just fired a massive white noise burst through them
[15:40] <xTOGx> ok, i'm back.  sorry, i need a new wireless router
[15:41] <daftykins> what makes you think it's "better" than any other OS?
[15:41] <Gemmie78> Yeah I need to get more familiar
[15:41] <Gemmie78> Is there a way to have my mum automatically have firestarter running
[15:42] <D46> It's annoying. =\ A lot of Ubuntu users will ask, "What's Linux?"
[15:42] <Gemmie78> Is it possible to have the program always run, or run as soon as the computer boots
[15:42] <cdeszaq> How could I check to see if the sed command "sed -n '/mom/ p' " gave any output?
[15:42] <joaopinto> Gemmie78, probably you want it to run when the user logs in, System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[15:42] <Gemmie78> D46, as long as it works I'm happy
[15:43] <D46> Anyway.. I better be going. Please try to help me with getting my installation to work. :) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=824607
[15:43] <Myrtti> Gemmie78: you don't need to have firestarter on to have the firewall on... you did know that, right?
[15:44] <daftykins> you get a working tty login D46?
[15:44] <Gemmie78> Really?
[15:44] <qoncept> how do ubuntu's update packages work? i want to get the latest version of pidgin without doing anything and was wondering when it'll happen automatically
[15:44] <Gemmie78> Is it always on?
[15:44] <rampageoberon> Gemmie78: the default firewall is iptables which is always on
[15:44] <Gemmie78> It's saying it's already rec'vd 400+ mg
[15:44] <Myrtti> Gemmie78: firestarter is a frontend to iptables
[15:44] <Gemmie78> MB ^
[15:44] <daftykins> it doesn't automatically update
[15:44] <danbhfive> qoncept: when the next version of Ubuntu is released
[15:44] <Myrtti> Gemmie78: and iptables is always on
[15:44] <Gemmie78> Oh I see, so I'm running 2 firewalls?
[15:44] <Myrtti> Gemmie78: no
[15:44] <Gemmie78> just iptables?
[15:44] <qoncept> i mean like, using apt-get
[15:45] <joaopinto> qoncept, you only get security/critical bug fixes, not version updates
[15:45] <Myrtti> Gemmie78: firestarter is a *frontend*
[15:45] <Myrtti> Gemmie78: yes.
[15:45] <cdc> is there a way to do a terminal command to launch network paths [windows shared folders?] so I do not keep having to either bookmark them or mount them through the gui?
[15:45] <Gemmie78> What do you mean by frontend?
[15:45] <Gemmie78> If so, what's the point of firestarter?
[15:45] <Myrtti> Gemmie78: it's a graphical frontend to a commandline tool that is for many users quite hard to handle
[15:45] <pjotr> you only set rules for iptables with firestarter
[15:46] <CarlFK> sudo apt-get upgrade; packages have been kept back: linux-generic ... linux-restricted-modules-generic
[15:46] <CarlFK> how come?
[15:46] <rampageoberon> Gemmie78: its just a front end, some people like guis
[15:46] <Gemmie78> I see
[15:46] <danbhfive> CarlFK: maybe you need dist-upgrade
[15:46] <rampageoberon> Gemmie78: personally i still prefer iptables from command line, rather than ufw
[15:46] <Gemmie78> So let me get this straight, basically the firewall is always running
[15:47] <rampageoberon> CarlFK: if its 8.04 you want full-upgrade
[15:47] <rampageoberon> Gemmie78: yes
[15:47] <Gemmie78> When I open firestarter, I'm basically opening a clean shiny version of iptable
[15:47] <Gemmie78> Which in essence is always running in the background
[15:47] <rampageoberon> Gemmie78: yes, firestarter just passes on the rules to iptables
[15:47] <ASULutzy> Gemmie78: Yes, and iptables by default doesn't have any rules in it, so it's there, ot's just not really doing much, which is ok because by default Ubuntu has no open ports
[15:48] <dbmoodb> Gemmie78: a firewall that is not switched on is running = no real firewall
[15:48] <rampageoberon> Gemmie78: My suggestion would be if using iptables, script the firewall. iptables directly gives you a lot more control
[15:48] <Gemmie78> I don't script and this is for my mum
[15:48] <Gemmie78> I just want her to be safe online for obvious reasons
[15:48] <rampageoberon> Gemmie78: you have to wrote the script
[15:48] <Myrtti> Gemmie78: will she be installing p2p software, http-servers, ftp-servers, etc?
[15:48] <Gemmie78> I know Linux systems are less prone to attack in a way
[15:48] <Gemmie78> But I still want to minimise her risk
[15:49] <Myrtti> Gemmie78: sshd?
[15:49] <dbmoodb> Gemmie78: hosts allow and hosts deny then
[15:49] <CarlFK> Gemmie78: out of the box, she is safe enough
[15:49] <Gemmie78> I see
[15:49] <dbmoodb>  /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny just for samba maybe ?
[15:49] <Gemmie78> Am I able to run a server on a small desktop and on the same desktop have ubuntu running and browse the net?
[15:49] <CarlFK> Gemmie78: messing with a firewall will more likely cause her problems when you don't do it right
[15:49] <rampageoberon> Gemmie78: unless you are installing any of the things Myrtti mentioned the default config is good enough
[15:49] <Gemmie78> In a way multi task, have a small forum running for some college mates and do some research?
[15:49] <Gemmie78> Okay sweet
[15:50] <cdeszaq> Does anyone know how to check to see if the sed command "sed -n '/mom/ p' " gave any output when run on a file?
[15:50] <CarlFK> Gemmie78: yes.  unix did multi everything back in the 70's, and has only gotten better :)
[15:50] <dbmoodb> Gemmie78: welcome to a true multiuser multitasking os :)
[15:51] <joaopinto> cdecarlo, erm, you are telling him to be quiet, you will not get any output
[15:51] <Yazan`> hey
[15:51] <Myrtti> Gemmie78: are you planning to make her computer accessible to you with ssh?
[15:51] <joaopinto> i mean, cdeszaq
[15:51] <Yazan`> ubuntu is still having a hard time with speedtouch! damn it!
[15:51] <cdecarlo> joaopinto: ?
[15:51] <CarlFK> Gemmie78: welcome to your new house.  It has solid walls, doors, roof, etc.  try to forget how things were in that old shack that had nice paint
[15:51] <joaopinto> cdecarlo, was for cdeszaq
[15:52] <ProTToType> hey any1 here happened to play gunz online on ubuntu??
[15:52] <cdeszaq> joaopinto: what do you mean? the p will have it print any found lines
[15:52] <Yazan`> will linux have problems and troubles speedtouch for ever?!??!
[15:52] <Kira> On Hardy, how do I prevent non-sudo users from shutting down or restarting the computer?
[15:52] <Gemmie78> No
[15:52] <Gemmie78> We will run 2 seperate machines
[15:52] <cdeszaq> joaopinto: acting as a grep
[15:52] <ProTToType> hey any1 here happened to play gunz online on ubuntu??
[15:52] <ProTToType> hey any1 here happened to play gunz online on ubuntu??
[15:52] <acp_> Hi can any one direct me to a howto for configuring  Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN in my notebook its not working out of the box in 8.04, tnx in advance
[15:52] <Gemmie78> This OS is so awesome
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> proPlease stop that
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ProTToType  Please stop that
[15:53] <ProTToType> can u help me
[15:53] <Gemmie78> So get this, this OS is smooth as, like really smooth, is less prone to viruses and malware, it's FREE, I get support 24/7 and it's simple to use after a quick tutorial
[15:53] <benpicco> Hi, I'm looking for a tool to generate real time visualisation to audio input (line in)
[15:53] <Gemmie78> Shame people don't know
[15:53] <cdeszaq> joaopinto: I am using sed to find errors in an output stream and I want to halt the script execution if it finds one
[15:53] <^ick> ProTToType: what about using wine?
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> ProTToType If someone does they will answer.. obviously no one listening does
[15:53] <benpicco> just like amarok/rythemnbox does
[15:53] <bijur> hello all
[15:53] <joaopinto> cdeszaq, erm, why are you using sed instead of grep ???
[15:53] <xTOGx> ok, so i run apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.  i get E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[15:54] <Gemmie78> So anywho I have about 10 people who want to use the server, maybe 3 at a time, I could run that on a celeron couldn't i
[15:54] <Gemmie78> Something cheap and nasty?
[15:54] <Gemmie78> You can get away with running a 1.8 celeron and 512 ram right?
[15:54] <IndyGunFreak> Gemmie78: just make sure when you have problems you don't immediately remove and run back to windows, thats what a lot of people do.
[15:54] <ALLpt> existe a easy way to install the "RealPlayer"?
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !realplayer
[15:54] <^ick> I have played gunz online beta but it was long ago and on real windows, but it should work with wine
[15:54] <cdeszaq> joaopinto: no particular reason, I was just using sed to process other parts of the stream, so sed was in my mind
[15:54] <ProTToType> i tried wine... none of da windows softwares r working
[15:54] <Gemmie78> I'm one to stick it out, but I do have a windows PC which is my main Beast PC
[15:54] <Gemmie78> Legit copy of windows too which I got cheap in the US
[15:55] <cdeszaq> joaopinto: is grep easier to use to determine if a pattern was found or not?
[15:55] <Gemmie78> I'm currently on a laptop though, which has new life breathed into it by ubuntu
[15:55] <IndyGunFreak> Gemmie78: what do you need the server to do?.. just a file server?
[15:55] <Gemmie78> and I have a macbook, I get the best of all 3 worlds, and Ubuntu is definitely on par with the other systems EASILY
[15:55] <Yazan`> will linux have problems and troubles speedtouch for ever?!??!
[15:55] <^ick> ProTToType: what about configuring before using? if you configure the right way, you will be able to use lots of windoes apps
[15:55] <Jack_Sparrow> !appdb | ProTToType
[15:55] <Gemmie78> Basically it will host a small forum, like a message board where friends leave messages
[15:55] <joaopinto> cdecarlo, grep is the proper utility to search for patterns
[15:55] <Yazan`> will linux have problems and troubles speedtouch for ever?!??!
[15:55] <Gemmie78> Less than 20 people will use it
[15:55] <joaopinto> was cdeszaq ^
[15:56] <m1r> Yazan`: if no problems, where would the fun go then =?
[15:56] <Gemmie78> But I don't want to pay for a host when I can leave an efficient PC on 24/7
[15:56] <benpicco> Gemmie78, maybe a little wiki
[15:56] <Gemmie78> Kinda
[15:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Yazan` Please stop the repeats
[15:56] <Gemmie78> I can run perl on an ubuntu systemr ight?
[15:56] <IndyGunFreak> Gemmie78: while i can't say w/ 100% certainty(don't have a lot of server experience), i don't see why a 1.8ghz w/ 512 wouldn't be able to run that
[15:56] <joaopinto> Yazan`, and is not a linux problem, is an hardware vendor problem...
[15:56] <Gemmie78> As far as I'm concerned most of it is just txt
[15:56] <Gemmie78> How piss easy is that
[15:56] <rampageoberon> how can i flush my dns? the ncsd daemon is not existent
[15:56] <cdeszaq> joaopinto: ok, so how would I use it in a script to tell me if it found the pattern or not? I can get grep and sed both to output the same lines, so what's the difference? (I want a found/not-found sort of answer)
[15:56] <Yazan`> god damn speedtouch and the whole thomson company
[15:57] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[15:57] <IndyGunFreak> moron
[15:57] <cdecarlo> joaopinto: ?
[15:57] <hey`> hi, Javascript is not working correctly in my firefox, and it was just totally updated.
[15:57] <CarlFK> Gemmie78: I run a photo gallery that does on the fly resizing at page load time on a P2-333
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Yazan` Please also watch the language and keep it family friendly
[15:57] <joaopinto> cdecarlo, you do a grep -c "pattern" file, this will print the number of matches
[15:57] <hey`> and I think I have everything related to javascript installed.
[15:57] <hey`> I can't play radio online.
[15:57] <cdecarlo> joaopinto: I haven't asked a question
[15:57] <cdeszaq> joaopinto: and then I look for 0 lines?
[15:57] <hey`> flash effects in sites, are not correctly displayed.
[15:57] <joaopinto> cdeszaq, yes
[15:57] <cdeszaq> joaopinto: k, thanks
[15:58] <BedMan> Gemmie78: you don't need a lot of power for a *nix of any kind to run well
[15:58] <cdc> silly question - I want to upgrade firefox beta 3 r 5 to the new release candidate 3rc2 how would i do so seamlessly?
[15:58] <rampageoberon> how can i flush my dns cache? the ncsd daemon is not existent
[15:59] <IndyGunFreak> cdc: did you not get it w/ your system updates?
[15:59] <BedMan> cdc: firefox has an installer, right?
[15:59] <joaopinto> cdc, if you have updates enable you should have rc1 available, for rc2 you will need to do a manual install
[15:59] <PhailQuail> how do I find out how a long a program has been running for?
[15:59] <cdc> Filefox only have tar.gz files.
[15:59] <joaopinto> BedMan, no it does not, it provides a binary tar gz
[15:59] <cdc> joaopinto: do i have to remove the previous one?
[15:59] <BedMan> PhailQuail: ps
[16:00] <BedMan> joaopinto: can't you download the instaler too?
[16:00] <joaopinto> PhailQuail, ps -fp pid, look for the STIME (Start time)
[16:00] <joaopinto> BedMan, no, you can download the binary, and run it
[16:00] <Parallx> anyone here using a macbook ???
[16:00] <xTOGx> ok, so i run apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.  i get E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?  but when i run those, it comes back with package reading in like 1 second
[16:00] <white_eagle> what was the command for renewing the IP adress in linux
[16:00] <white_eagle> ?
[16:00] <joaopinto> cdc, no you do not, if you install it to a difference place, but please search for a web page with instructions, is not something easy for beginners
[16:01] <BedMan> joaopinto: if you get the .tar.gz file, does it not contain an installer?
[16:01] <Parallx> ﻿white_eagle: sudo dhclient ethX
[16:01] <yggdrasil> can somone tell me what package i have to install to get "make"
[16:01] <CarlFK> white_eagle: there a a bunch -  you probably want  /etc/init.d/network restart
[16:01] <rampageoberon> white_eagle: sudo ipdown <interface> && sudo ifup <interface>
[16:01] <neurobuntu> xTOGx what happens when you run apt-get update?
[16:01] <white_eagle> ok
[16:01] <joaopinto> yggdrasil, build-essential
[16:01] <yggdrasil> thanks
[16:01] <Gemmie78> (00:57:10) CarlFK: Gemmie78: I run a photo gallery that does on the fly resizing at page load time on a P2-333 |||| you're doing ubuntu on a P2 awesome
[16:01] <joaopinto> yggdrasil, whare arte you tring to build ?
[16:01] <joaopinto> BedMan, GRRR again, NO
[16:01] <yggdrasil> somethigm..
[16:01] <Gemmie78> I couldn't initially run ubuntu on the laptop, I had to whack in another 256 MB of ram
[16:01] <rampageoberon> xTOGx: it updates the repository list of packages
[16:01] <camason> my sound seems to have died. Is there a command I can run to restart it?
[16:01]  * N3bunel saluta
[16:01] <rampageoberon> how can i flush my dns cache? the ncsd daemon is not existent
[16:02] <xTOGx> apt-get update comes back immediately...like it didn't even look for anything...and says something about reading packages
[16:02] <yggdrasil> a driver for my bcm43xx
[16:02] <joaopinto> rampageoberon, what dns cacher have you installed ?
[16:02] <JJ1> hello everyone!
[16:02] <CarlFK> Gemmie78: well, it works good enough for me - doesn't mean it is lighting fast.  I set the box up 4 years ago and havn't cared enough to use one of the P3-700's that is laying next to it :)
[16:02] <ASULutzy> !hi | JJ1
[16:02] <rampageoberon> joaopinto: not sure, from google i understand it should be ncsd, how cna i check?
[16:02] <joaopinto> xTOGx, you probably also need the linux-headers source package
[16:02] <neurobuntu> xTOGx have you edited your repository list? (sources.list)
[16:02] <xTOGx> bwah?
[16:03] <white_eagle> thanks everyone!
[16:03] <Bhajun> Hi guys, I have a dual-booted system with 8.04 and XP.  I just updated grub and now whenever I wish to load into xp I get an error: "Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist" - can someone please have a look at what i have and tell if it looks ok?  http://pastebin.com/m6373cbd7
[16:03] <joaopinto> rampageoberon, you have no dns cache by default, what are you trying to achieve ?
[16:03] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[16:03]  * xTOGx smiles like a dear in headlights
[16:04] <rampageoberon> joaopinto: one of the servers (forums) i use has changed IP's so want to flush it to update
[16:04] <JJ1> gald to see you
[16:04] <JJ1> :-D
[16:04] <joaopinto> rampageoberon, that is with your ISP dns, you can't force the change
[16:04] <miklos> hi everybody   How can I bypass that "sudo" thing, i mean what to do if i want  2 B ALWAYS ROOT?
[16:04] <Gemmie78> I think a Celeron is energy efficient too, and cheap so in terms of running a server possible not a bad idea
[16:04] <ferfactor_> how i can run an antivirus in a live cd session???
[16:04] <joaopinto> it can take several hours
[16:04] <BedMan> miklos: you don't, realy
[16:05] <rampageoberon> joaopinto: Oh okay
[16:05] <joaopinto> miklos, that is not safe, you can get a root shell with: sudo -s, but again, it is not as safe as using root only as required
[16:05] <neurobuntu> ubottu you here?
[16:05] <miklos> thanx badman
[16:05] <BedMan> miklos: it's kinda like carying a big sword... sometimes you just slice your leg clean off :-)
[16:05] <neurobuntu> ubottu have you had lunch?
[16:05] <ferfactor_> Any body nows how i can run an antivirus in live cd session?????????'
[16:05] <neurobuntu> sorry
[16:05] <lubosz> hi, why does the hardy package "gfxboot" not work?
[16:06] <lubosz> is there a tutorial how to install gfxboot from the repository?
[16:06] <joaopinto> ferfactor_, what are you trying to achieve ?
[16:06] <Bhajun> Sorry for repeating, but i don't think my q was visible after that hoarde of people exiting
[16:06] <Bhajun> Hi guys, I have a dual-booted system with 8.04 and XP.  I just updated grub and now whenever I wish to load into xp I get an error: "Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist" - can someone please have a look at what i have and tell if it looks ok?  http://pastebin.com/m6373cbd7
[16:06] <IndyGunFreak> ferfactor_: you should be able to install clamav on the live CD.. if you need to use it.
[16:06] <joaopinto> lubosz, if it is available, just install it from the package manager
[16:06] <neurobuntu> lubosz what do you mean "not work"
[16:06] <gooody> can somebody give me an info regarding setting up a router for internet sharing?
[16:06] <ferfactor_> i want to run avg to erase some virus that has my computer with windows
[16:06] <ProTToType> hey... any indians here??
[16:07] <joaopinto> ferfactor_, clamlav only scans, it will not allow you to clean
[16:07] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: its pretty easy.
[16:07] <joaopinto> !ot | ProTToType
[16:07] <lubosz> neurobuntu: it does not come up, it boots plain old grub
[16:07] <Parallx> Is it a good idea to get a macbook to use ubuntu????
[16:07] <lubosz> joaopinto: i did that, even the theme, but it does not configure it to start
[16:07] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: is it something like plug n play?
[16:07] <IndyGunFreak> Parallx: if you want to... but you coudl get something cheaper if you just want to use Ubuntul.;
[16:07] <joaopinto> lubosz, so rephrase your question, it is not about how to install, but how to configure ;)
[16:07] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: maybe not quite that easy, what model is your router?
[16:08] <ferfactor_> joaopinto: but if this program detect the virus i can erase it!!!!
[16:08] <ProTToType> hey u indian??
[16:08] <JJ1> hello every one. can I change my accont to root when i in gnome?
[16:08] <xTOGx> ok, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop gets all the way 99% done. then i get like 9 lines of [2946.859xxx] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 1653xx.
[16:08] <ferfactor_> only i want to detect it and erase it myself
[16:08] <Some_Person> JJ1: not recommended
[16:08] <Gemmie78> Anytime I try to run firestarter it asks for my password
[16:08] <Parallx> ﻿IndyGunFreak: I need the firewire that has the macbook, i just wanted to know about problems,
[16:08] <lubosz> joaopinto: i didnt find any method to do so, and usually it should work when you install it from the repo
[16:08] <poosenki> is it ever a problem to create a directory that starts with a digit rather than a letter?
[16:08] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: i don't have the router yet but planning to buy a linksys wired router.
[16:08] <Gemmie78> will it always do that if I set it to run on system start up?
[16:08] <joaopinto> ferfactor_, it depends on the virus, some virus get "melted" with system files, you can't simply delete those
[16:08] <ProTToType> im not able to find any information regarding to gunz online on whinehq site
[16:08] <lubosz> so no one uses gfxboot?
[16:08] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: it should be easy to setup.. do you have a windows PC at all?
[16:08] <ProTToType> can any1 here pls help me out??
[16:08] <xTOGx> then i get a failed to fetch... Hash Sum mismtch E: Unble to etch some archies, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing
[16:09] <joaopinto> ProTToType, please ask on #winehq
[16:09] <ferfactor_> joaopinto: i installed avg in live cd but it not run
[16:09] <neurobuntu> ProTToType: if there aren't any docs at wineHQ then they probably don't exist
[16:09] <neurobuntu> ProTTOType try: #winehq or google
[16:09] <joaopinto> ferfactor_, please join ##windows
[16:09] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: i am have a windows xp and ubuntu dual boot.
[16:09] <xTOGx> ok, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop gets all the way 99% done. then i get like 9 lines of [2946.859xxx] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 1653xx.
[16:09] <xTOGx> ok, apt-get install xubuntu-desktop gets all the way 99% done. then i get like 9 lines of [2946.859xxx] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 1653xx.
[16:09] <xTOGx> then i get a failed to fetch... Hash Sum mismtch E: Unble to etch some archies, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing
[16:09] <FloodBot1> xTOGx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:09] <xTOGx> sorry bout repeat
[16:10] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: then its gravy, setup the router under windows with the CD that comes with it, then reboot to Ubuntu, and you should be online
[16:10] <xTOGx> i said i'm sorry FloodBot1!!!
[16:10] <Pici> xTOGx: its a bot....
[16:10] <kekosa> sorry guys, I have a problem with my wireless connection. I have a DIGICOM wave 54 usb adapter and it was working without problems since 3 days ago, now it stopped to work. The only thing I changed was the router. I tried to downgrade from hardy to gutsy but nothing is appening. The message I receive is always after "sudo ifup eth1" is "No DHCPOFFERS received.".
[16:10] <xTOGx> i know pici
[16:10] <Chosen320> Hey guys... got another newb query... I'm trying to cut and paste a directory and all it's contents to /var/www/ but get a permission denied error. How do I get around this?
[16:10] <IndyGunFreak> then why not just use a pastebin if your sorry?
[16:10] <ASULutzy> Chosen320: You need to be root
[16:10] <ASULutzy> Chosen320: use sudo
[16:11] <xTOGx> what is pastebin?
[16:11] <IndyGunFreak> !pastebin | xTOGx
[16:11] <joaopinto> Chosen320, you need to run nautilus with super user privileges, gksudo nautilus
[16:11] <ASULutzy> Chosen320: for example, sudo cp -R (or sudo mv if you want to cut instead of copy) /the/Source /var/www
[16:11] <benpicco> I'm looking for a tool to generate real time visualisation to audio input (line in)
[16:11] <Pici> http://www.yesbutnobutyes.com/archives/2008/06/lunch_hour_veg_268.html
[16:11] <Pici> er, sorry.
[16:11] <ASULutzy> Chosen320: Or alternatively if you hate the command line and want to use a GUI, type gksudo nautilus
[16:11] <Myrtti> Pici: miss
[16:11] <xTOGx> that would be great, IndyGunFreak, when i get linux installed :P
[16:11] <kushal1> what is the default irc client in kubuntu 8.04? I cannot find konversation as installed by default.
[16:11] <BedMan> Chosen320: if you set the permissions of the target directory properly, you do not need sudo, but you may need sudo to set your permissions right.
[16:12] <IndyGunFreak> xTOGx: you don't need linux isntalled to use a pastebin.
[16:12] <RimFrost> hey everyone
[16:12] <xTOGx> oh
[16:12] <xTOGx> cool
[16:12] <RimFrost> can someone help me with a theme?
[16:12] <benpicco> kushal1, there is no default one (maybe pidgin), but xchat works nice
[16:12] <xTOGx> i'll check it out.  in the mean time.  any suggestions on getting my GUI up and running?
[16:12] <DaLiang> 大家好
[16:12] <kushal1> xchat, ok thanks
[16:12] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: but i have some irregularities on my modem. i need to enter my username and password everytime i start my modem. would this create some problem with the router?
[16:12] <benpicco> !ch | DaLiang
[16:12] <joaopinto> !tw | DaLiang
[16:13] <RimFrost> here take a look at it: http://www.breakitdownblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/ubuntu_desktop_mockup.jpg   does any one know what theme the guy is using?
[16:13] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: it shouldn't... the router will log you in, and keep you logged in
[16:13] <DaLiang> 你哦
[16:13] <IndyGunFreak> to my knowledge anyways
[16:13] <IndyGunFreak> !ch
[16:13] <DaLiang> no I　ch
[16:13] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: OK. thanks a lot for the help.
[16:13] <krim> RimFrost: It's a mockup, not a real theme
[16:13] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: np.. any ideas on a brand?
[16:13] <benpicco> !cn
[16:14] <RimFrost> you cant use it then?
[16:14] <Weems> so Im having trouble, avant window manager wont load when I click the icon
[16:14] <krim> RimFrost: Dunno, I'm guessing it's just a proposal for a theme. But mail the person who put it up on the blog and ask
[16:14] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: i'm planning to buy linksys router but don't know for the model yet.
[16:14] <DaLiang> use what?
[16:14] <kekosa> any expert in wireless problems there?
[16:14] <Bhajun> Anyone familiar with grub's "Error 1: Filename must be either an absolute pathname or blocklist" error? I can't seem to boot into xp after updating grub
[16:14] <ASULutzy> !ask | kekosa
[16:15] <RimFrost> ok i'll do that. god bless what nice it is
[16:15] <kekosa> yes I did, I repost it
[16:15] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: ok.. if your'e staying wired, i'd just recommend something w/ Stateful Packet Inspection(SPI).. that will provide the best security..
[16:15] <kekosa> I have a problem with my wireless connection. I have a DIGICOM wave 54 usb adapter and it was working without problems since 3 days ago, now it stopped to work. The only thing I changed was the router. I tried to downgrade from hardy to gutsy but nothing is appening. The message I receive is always after "sudo ifup eth1" is "No DHCPOFFERS received.".
[16:16] <ASULutzy> kekosa: Are you sure your router is configured correctly?
[16:16] <net> My desktop effects could not be enabled.............Help me please........
[16:16] <Kermos> net: what video card? what driver are you using?
[16:16] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: sorry but i'm not familiar with it. any recommended brand?
[16:16] <net> I m using Ubuntu Hardy...I fully updated the system..I m using intel motherboard with inbuilt graphics memory.....
[16:16] <net> My system gives all desktop effects fine....But one time i installes compiz window manager and change my window manager to metacity and then i change it to compiz ....
[16:16] <net> After that my desktop effects couldnt be enabled....I m gr8 fan of this effects.....
[16:16] <net> Please Help me...
[16:16] <FloodBot1> net: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:16] <kekosa> It should, it is working with other pcs
[16:16] <net> kermos, i m using intel 945
[16:17] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: Netgear/Linksys/DLink, all have good offerines, just make sure when you're searching for the router.. on the box under security specs, it says Stateful Packet Inspectionl, or SPI
[16:17] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: this is one of my favorite bargain router/firewalls..  http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1527514&CatId=1409
[16:17] <dfgas> anyone know how to setup gfxboot?
[16:17] <net> kermos , Please help me
[16:17] <Kermos> net: one thing I don't get, desktop effects *is* compiz
[16:17] <dfgas> !gfxboot
[16:17] <Kermos> so if you had desktop effects enabled
[16:18] <Kermos> how did you "install compiz"?
[16:18] <Kermos> compiz had to have been already installed
[16:18] <net> kermos , i mean that cube effect like that......i activated compiz window manager
[16:18] <ksbalaji> Hi - When I open some apps, I get message - unhandled MIME type >application/octet-stream .  What is this please?
[16:19] <Kermos> net: when you go to system->appearance->visual effects
[16:19] <Kermos> what is your current setting?
[16:19] <joaopinto> ksbalaji, how are you tring to "open" those applications ?
[16:19] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: do you have any idea if linksys routers came with firewalls?
[16:19] <joaopinto> that msg seems more likely thay you are opening some unsupport file format
[16:19] <net> kermos , now only
[16:19] <templaedhel> please help me solve this problem http://templaedhel.10gbfreehost.com/Screenshot.png
[16:19] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: hang on
[16:20] <ksbalaji> joaopinto, I just use gui -just click the app icons.
[16:20] <abe3k> hello
[16:20] <Kermos> now only.....?
[16:20] <joaopinto> ksbalaji, from the Applications menu ?
[16:20] <net> kermos ,
[16:20] <m1r> templaedhel: press little icon > / on left sidew
[16:20] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: sorry but i'm new to this. not really familiar with the networking thing.
[16:20] <abe3k> I have an audio related question about hardy
[16:21] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: what exactly are you planning to do w/ the router... share an internet connection or what?
[16:21] <JohnOfMurr> ﻿/msg ubottu !AskTheBot
[16:21] <templaedhel> i know that but the total there is only 18gigs and up above it says im using 54
[16:21] <LeFlig> try going to www.ubuntuforums.org
[16:21] <gooody> yup. for sharing internet connection.
[16:21] <IndyGunFreak> JohnOfMurr: leave off the ! when messaging the bot
[16:21] <JohnOfMurr> thanks
[16:22] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: for sharing internet connection.
[16:22] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: ok,...
[16:22] <LeFlig> and you tell me now...
[16:22] <ata4ix> how to share my internet connection under ubuntu?
[16:22] <kekosa> ASULutzy: I think the problem os with the firmware zd1211rw, but I cannot fix it. I tried to disable ipv6, configure in different ways wpasupplicant, but nothig to do, the router seem not to like my laptop
[16:22] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: any particular reason you're wanting to stick w/ Linksys?
[16:22] <abe3k> any 1 ?
[16:22] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: it's widely available in our place.
[16:22] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: ok... where are you?
[16:22] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: philippines
[16:22] <templaedhel> ﻿m1r i know but it says the root (/) is only 18gigs and above tht it says im using 54gigs
[16:23] <net> Kermos , r u there
[16:23] <joaopinto> templaedhel, are you running the disk usage tool with root privileges ?
[16:23] <ksbalaji> joaopinto, sometimes from the application menu, sometimes from desktop, sometimes from within nautilus or konqueror.
[16:23] <Kermos> net: yes, still waiting on the answer to my question
[16:23] <templaedhel> i dont think so
[16:23] <abe3k> is there any way to have some ASIO support under ubuntu hadry ?
[16:23] <net> kermos , i answered it
[16:23] <joaopinto> ksbalaji, erm, I mean, for the specific case you get that error msg
[16:24] <JohnOfMurr> ﻿/msg ubottu AskTheBot
[16:24] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: im' not real familiar w/ Linksys wired routers.
[16:24] <IndyGunFreak> i like m linksys wireless router..
[16:24] <abe3k> something like KX project
[16:24] <net> kermos , may be i  cant get your question
[16:24] <Kermos> Go to System
[16:24] <Kermos> Go to Appearance
[16:24] <Kermos> system->Preferences->Apperance
[16:24] <Kermos> Visual effects
[16:24] <skurk3n> irc.freenode.net
[16:25] <Kermos> *what* is selected?
[16:25] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: ok... thanks again for the help. i'll try search for your recommended router if it's available her.
[16:25] <joaopinto> templaedhel, you must run with sudo if you want all the disk to be analyzed
[16:25] <net> kermos, i m using gnome
[16:25] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: thats not the only one, its just one i like cuz its cheap, and the firewall is very good.
[16:25] <abe3k> any one have any idea about ASIO related questions under ubuntu hardy ?
[16:26]  * Kermos bangs head on table
[16:26] <net> kermos, none is selected
[16:26] <joaopinto> abe3k, no
[16:26] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: just an additional question. can routers be used for local networking?
[16:26] <Kermos> Ok, can you select "Normal"?
[16:27] <unavailable> ok anyone know if a client bridge running dd-wrt with dnsmasq will conflict with a router/gateway running linksys fw's dhcp assignment?
[16:27] <net> Kermos , no i cant
[16:27] <abe3k> joaopinto: is there any channel for this type of qestion ?
[16:27] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: what do you mean by local networking?
[16:27] <JohnOfMurr> ﻿﻿/msg ubottu CoC
[16:27] <JohnOfMurr> ﻿/msg ubottu Bot
[16:27] <templaedhel> is it safe to delete the stuff in /root/.local/share/trash?
[16:27] <joaopinto> this is the proper channel, but I am not familiar with ASIO (whatever that is)
[16:27] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: connecting PC locally like sharing local files.
[16:27] <joaopinto> templaedhel, it should be, since it's a trash...
[16:27] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: oh, yeah, you should be able to share files if you set it up properly
[16:28] <net> kermos , no i cant select it too...
[16:28] <abe3k> Audio stream input output
[16:28]  * unavailable wonders why he cannot get dhcp working correctly
[16:28] <elementz> anybody - how can i make multithreaded downloads with wget? aget seems to not support ftp. anybody got a hint?
[16:28] <benpicco> elementz, try axel
[16:28] <elementz> i know it can be done with a loop - but don't know how
[16:28] <elementz> benpicco, got an url?
[16:29] <benpicco> elementz, just apt-get it
[16:29] <elementz> benpicco, thx
[16:29] <Kermos> net: and it was selected previously?
[16:29] <joaopinto> elementz, with a loop it does multiprocess for several files, not for a single file
[16:29] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: the direction you have told me lately is not applicable for local networks?
[16:29] <net> kermos , previously i selected these all and works fine
[16:29] <templaedhel> how would i delete files in /root/.local/share/trash? they just appear right back there because im sending them to trash
[16:29] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: once you set up your router, etc, you then set up file sharing...
[16:29] <pim> How do get letters from the greek alphabet
[16:30] <elementz> joaopinto, somebody gave me a script earlier, that would actually do it - just can't remember ho
[16:30] <elementz> joaopinto, would be really neat
[16:30] <IndyGunFreak> it should be fairly easy gooody , but i personally don't fileshare so i don't know.
[16:30] <pim> templaedhel use sudo
[16:30] <Kermos> net: have you checked in Synaptic if compiz is still installed?
[16:30] <net> kermos, wait i will check and tell
[16:30] <templaedhel> pim im not doing this from command line...
[16:30] <abe3k> thank you anyways
[16:31] <ksbalaji> joaopinto, for example, I clicked to view a text (txt) file inside a compressed folder.I try to open thru gedit and I get this MIME something error pl
[16:31] <pim> templaedhel then go to a commandline and type: kdesudo dolphin
[16:31] <cinson> hi, I'm looking for Germany Doctor
[16:31] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: ok. thanks a lot for the help. i'll try google it for more information.
[16:31] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[16:31] <pim>  How do get letters from the greek alphabet
[16:31] <unavailable> does dnsmasq conflict with dhcp?
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Pardon the minor flood.. Need to do some housekeeping
[16:32] <LeFlig> ??
[16:32] <LeFlig> what was that
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> LeFlig Housekeeping
[16:32] <PrograCEZ> hello from Lusitania
[16:32] <cinson> Anyone from Germany?
[16:32] <pim> unbanning LeFlig
[16:32] <LeFlig> nope
[16:32] <LeFlig> what?
[16:33] <LeFlig> Im banned???
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> No, You were not banned
[16:33] <ASULutzy> cinson: Nein, aber ich kann Deutsch sprechen. !de | cinson
[16:33] <PrograCEZ> someone knows if there is a ubuntu port of FUSE (spectrum emu)?
[16:33] <LeFlig> than why did he say unbanning me?
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> I lifted bans I had placed on people earlier
[16:33] <LeFlig> ah
[16:33] <elementz> btw, when i use 'screen' I can't scroll back in the console. anybody got a hint how to enable scrolling back? eg after issung ls in a big folder?
[16:33] <net> kermos , i got it
[16:33] <LeFlig> and the housekeeping part?
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> LeFlig Housekeeping .. ie taking care of business
[16:34] <derspankster> Has anyone have any experience with a stardot wincam live? I had it working in Feisty then it quit and I've never been able to get it to work again. I ran it with Wine. Now, the camera can't communicate with the computer.
[16:34] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[16:34] <unavailable> does dnsmasq conflict with dhcp?
[16:34] <Kermos> net: "i got it" as in, compiz is installed or, everything is working now?
[16:34] <cinson> ASULutzy: actually, I don't know Germany. But I want to see Germany Doctor for my ill.
[16:34] <doktoreas> anyone got troubles with flash after upgrading firefox?
[16:34] <net> kermos , i gave loose bindings option to compiz and solved my problem
[16:34] <Kermos> Net: great! :)
[16:35] <LeFlig> no probs with flash
[16:35] <unavailable> what exactly do you men by "problems" doktoreas
[16:35] <LeFlig> why do u ask?
[16:35] <PrograCEZ> ciao a tutti
[16:35] <LeFlig> hm
[16:35] <LeFlig> hes got a point there
[16:35] <draginxx> Why did my ubuntu upgrade to firefox 3.0 rc1 when rc2 has been out for quite some time?
[16:35] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: am i going to setup all PC's connected to the router?
[16:36] <LeFlig> hey, did everyone get todays upgs?
[16:36] <doktoreas> unavailable: youtube is no more working
[16:36] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: usually just the first PC, then you just plug the others in, and most the time after a restart, they just work....
[16:36] <LeFlig> hm
[16:36] <LeFlig> thats wierd
[16:36] <IndyGunFreak> at least thats my experience
[16:36] <candive> doktoreas, yes
[16:36] <noishe> is it possible to go from 7.10 64bit to 8.04 32bit using dist-upgrade or the new disc?
[16:36] <LeFlig> yes
[16:36] <LeFlig> i think so
[16:37] <LeFlig> all though i might hurt myself by thinking so much
[16:37] <ASULutzy> noishe: why go from 64 bit to 32?
[16:37] <unavailable> noishe yes i would not recommend using 64 bit 8.04
[16:37] <LeFlig> *bumps into a wall* DOH
[16:37] <gooody> ﻿IndyGunFreak: ok. do u have any idea regarding the effect of the router to the internet speed?
[16:37] <unavailable> unless you have some special reason for using 64 bit, you are very limited
[16:37] <IndyGunFreak> gooody: shouldn't effect it at all.
[16:38] <noishe> why? because i'm sick of dealing with the 64bit little quirk issues. and i was REALLY hope'n that i could upgrade to 32bit without a reinstall. thankfully i have a disk.
[16:38] <unavailable> gooody, yes  router caps my speed at 550K no matter if its pc to pc or pc to net
[16:38] <polishpaul> hey guys, i have this issue on my lappy where everytime i boot up, i need to restart network services if i'm using the wireless connection....
[16:39] <b4l7424r> i can't get my printer working, it shows up in the printing menu, but when i select print in firefox, it just gets added to the queue and then nothing happens
[16:39] <camason> I've installed 32-bit ubuntu... is it possible to switch to 64-bit without a full OS wipe?
[16:39] <power2theplankto> hello, i am trying to get help with an error I am getting when using Pitivi
[16:39] <PrograCEZ> how can I see the compiz cube, which key combo? thx
[16:40] <PdUb101> hey guys, quick question, im trying to put a launcher for my music folder from my xp partition, which looks like this "nautilus /media/sda1/Documents and Settings/Paul/My Documents/LimeWire/Saved" but it won't work, any reason why?
[16:40] <Dr_willis_> !cube
[16:40] <unavailable> hold your scroll wheel on your mouse PrograCEZ
[16:40] <unavailable> while on a blank spot on your workspace
[16:41] <power2theplankto> whenever i try to  move video files within Pitivi i get this error: http://pastebin.com/m3fc8ecca
[16:41] <mystery_> hello everyone
[16:41] <doktoreas> candive: you have got the same problem with flash?
[16:41] <Kira> How do I disable the shutdown and restart options at the logon screen of Hardy desktop?
[16:41] <LeFlig> lol
[16:41] <LeFlig> you cant
[16:42] <PrograCEZ> thx dr_Willis
[16:42] <Kermos> on the note about flash, anyone ever have the problem where flash content shows on top of other stuff it shouldn't?
[16:42] <candive> doktoreas, When on internet screen fades to black and everything freezes
[16:42] <mystery_> Question:  My mouse seems to grab windows on the first click when i enable compiz. I cant click or select buttons because my mouse wants to drag the window. Can anyone help
[16:42] <cygoku> Where can I find open source driver for Broadcom ?? propriatary drivers are bad and ndiswrapper don't work here.
[16:42] <ne2k__> Kira: don't listen to LeFlig; this is your computer, you can do what you want with it. you may have to recompile gnome, though...
[16:43] <Kermos> Cygoku; no such thing
[16:43] <ne2k__> !ardour
[16:43] <cygoku> :( damn it.
[16:43] <templaedhel> thank u all for ur help i just deleted 50gigs fo files i didnt know i had
[16:43] <unavailable> lol
[16:43] <ne2k__> templaedhel: sounds like windows
[16:43] <JoFu> hello
[16:43] <Kermos> cygoku: problem with broadcom is that it requires firmware microcode and that is proprietary only
[16:43] <Mr_SpOOn> Hi. I have the option to change focus on window when I move the mouse (without clicking). But often, when I move it on the terminal the cursor starts to flicker and I can't type. I have to wait some seconds. What can it be?
[16:43] <templaedhel> lol
[16:44] <cygoku> Kermos, how can I install it ?
[16:44] <neurobuntu> cygoku, plenty of people get broadcom wifi working are you sure you're doing it correctly?
[16:44] <hotmonkeyluv> what is the prefered pdf veiwer for ubuntu?
[16:44] <neurobuntu> hotmonkeyluv: evince
[16:44] <Kermos> cygoku: you need to install either b43-fwcutter or bcm43xx-fwcutter
[16:44] <cygoku> neurobuntu, using what ?
[16:44] <mystery_> Question:  My mouse seems to grab windows on the first click when i enable compiz. I cant click or select buttons because my mouse wants to drag the window. Can anyone help
[16:44] <candive> doktoreas, the only key that works to unfreeze is power off button
[16:45] <ne2k__> hotmonkeyluv: would appear to be evince
[16:45] <neurobuntu> mystery_ did you mess with the mappings in compiz?
[16:45] <Kermos> really though
[16:45] <Kermos> in hardy
[16:45] <The-Seiman> hello all
[16:45] <Kermos> the restricted driver manager
[16:45] <mystery_> yea i think i did
[16:45] <Kermos> should handle it for you
[16:45] <Kermos> just enable it
[16:45] <cdeszaq> what is the easiest way to get the number of lines in a file?
[16:45] <pub> does anyone use xchat
[16:45] <mystery_> i was trying to adjust some buttons to activate some features
[16:45] <The-Seiman> I have again some issues while rebuilding the kernel ...
[16:45] <hotmonkeyluv> neurobuntu, ne2k__ : thanks!
[16:46] <mystery_> i dont remember which though
[16:46] <neurobuntu> you messed them up restore drag to default
[16:46] <Bentley> hi all - I just installed the latest updates on hardy, which included firefox3. Now in firefox, i don't have a location/url bar .. anyone else seeing this?
[16:46] <cygoku> I know I need to use b43-cutter, because bcm43xx is blacklisted.
[16:46] <The-Seiman> I don't have the sound *_*
[16:46] <unavailable> Question::: does dnsmasq conflict with dhcp?
[16:46] <The-Seiman> do I have to rebuild the kernel with ALSA ?
[16:46] <mystery_> ive been trying to figure out how to restore to default
[16:46] <mystery_> can u tell me
[16:46] <neurobuntu> not sure, try #compiz
[16:47] <The-Seiman> or do I have just to install a pre-packaged alsa module ?
[16:47] <mystery_> should i tyoe #compiz in terminal
[16:47] <ksbalaji> joaopinto, Sorry for the delay. Actually I was trying to replicate the error. I have super_pi.tar.gz. While viewing with archive roller, I saw a Readme.txt file. When I tried to view it, (evince) the error message popped up and the file did not open. I am able to use gedit to view. This error happens often. ( unable to resolve MIME type application/octet-stream). Can you solve pl?
[16:47] <neurobuntu> no #compiz is a chat room in irc
[16:47] <The-Seiman> no, /join #compiz in freenode
[16:47] <Jaded> so quick qu, anyone know a URL for edgy repository ? the one on archive.ubuntu.com has been removed...
[16:47] <neurobuntu> type /join #compiz
[16:47] <neurobuntu> in your chat window
[16:47] <cygoku> Where can I download wl_apsta.o ?
[16:48] <PdUb101> when i create a launcher to point to a music folder on the xp partition it is giving me a couldn't find /home/paul/documents/limewire/saved" error
[16:48] <Kira> ne2k__, I thought it used to be possible through /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf
[16:48] <ne2k__> Kira: probably is
[16:48] <power2theplankto> whenever i try to  move video files within Pitivi i get this error: http://pastebin.com/m3fc8ecca
[16:48] <zvacet> cdeszaq : open file>edit>check show number lines (or something similar)
[16:48] <ne2k__> Kira: I don't know, I'm afraid
[16:48] <unavailable> Question::: does dnsmasq conflict with dhcp?
[16:48] <cdeszaq> zvacet: I am looking for a command-line option to use in a script
[16:48] <cdavis> Backports sounds like lower version that normal repositories, but it is actually newer than you can get on the normal repos?
[16:49] <candive> chow
[16:49] <The-Seiman> oki i've found it : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/tutoriel/comment_compiler_les_drivers_alsa ( french )
[16:49] <neurobuntu> caio
[16:49] <cygoku> Where can I download wl_apsta.o for the Broadcom ?
[16:49] <neurobuntu> cygoku did you try google
[16:49] <The-Seiman> cygoku
[16:50] <The-Seiman> just use ndiswrapper
[16:50] <cygoku> The-Seiman, no ndiswrapper never worked.
[16:50] <The-Seiman> because the bcm43xx modules or whatever don't work
[16:50] <DaLiang> if i had a problen with my mp3 player,what should i do?
[16:50] <ne2k__> cdavis: a backport is something which was developed on the testing distribution, proved to work, and then thought to be useful for the old version too, so it is backported to it. therefore, it is going to be some of the newest stuff in the old version
[16:51] <neurobuntu> DaLiang what is your probllem
[16:51] <The-Seiman> there's no complete specifications for the bcm chipsets, so the only way to get your wifi working is to use a proprietary driver with ndiswrapper
[16:51] <DaLiang> yesterday i went to the #ubuntu-cn ,and they teache i to rm something
[16:52] <gorg> Hello. I am new to Linux. Yesterday I installed Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. - Now I have found out that what I really want is Kubuntu-kde4! My cd-burner doesn't work. I have seen this: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net -but not quite sure to do this alone, may someone help me? i would be most grateful!
[16:52] <neurobuntu> DaLiang, what are you trying to do?
[16:52] <chupchup> Hey guys -trying to install ubuntu on my computer but when I try and resize my Vista partition in gparted I'm getting an error.
[16:52] <neurobuntu> gorg, try opening a terminal and running: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:52] <The-Seiman> cygoku, do you have bcm9XXX or bcm43XX ?
[16:52] <_eMaX_> re
[16:53] <neurobuntu> gorg: that will upgrade your install of ubuntu to Kubuntu
[16:53] <gorg> neurobuntu: will it delete the Ubuntu version i've got at the moment?
[16:53] <DaLiang> ﻿neurobuntu I jiust want to find on earth what happen to mu pc
[16:53] <cygoku> The-Seiman, bcm9xxxX (bcm94311
[16:53] <gorg> ahh, ok
[16:53] <gorg> nice nice
[16:53] <neurobuntu> gorg, no it will install the KDE desktop onto your ubuntu install,
[16:53] <_eMaX_> is there a way to prevent installations of new kernels rewriting menu.lst and changing root=/dev/whatever to root=UUID:whatever?
[16:53] <neurobuntu> gorg, your gnome session will be preserved, you can try them both out then select the one you like better
[16:53] <gorg> so, how will me desktop environment be like?
[16:53] <neurobuntu> DaLiang, what problems are you experiencing?
[16:54] <The-Seiman> cygoku, then you'ill need bcmwl5.inf with ndiswrapper ( a simple search with google and you'ill find it ) .
[16:54] <neurobuntu> gorg: it will be the KDE desktop instead of gnome
[16:54] <gorg> will i get boot question of which to launch in the begining?
[16:54] <gorg> ok
[16:54] <neurobuntu> gorg, no
[16:54] <gorg> thx a lot mate
[16:54] <PdUb101> can someone help me create a launcher to my music folder on my xp partition please, i have it mapped already on startup, i just can't get a launcher to launch the specific folder
[16:54] <_eMaX_> gorg if you use kdm or gdm then you can make a choice
[16:54] <eitreach> Is KDE 4.1 Beta stable and useable enough for a working desktop? I need to hear an unbiased opinion, since it'd mean I'd install Kubuntu and destroy all my settings.
[16:54] <neurobuntu> gorg when you login, there will be a "session" button on the bottom left, click this and select KDE
[16:54] <cygoku> The-Seiman, I know, I tryed 5 wiki using that file bcmwl5.inf and it never worked.
[16:54] <indio> Hi.
[16:54] <DaLiang> ﻿neurobuntu ﻿为‘gconfaudiosrc ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=chat’创建测试流水线失败  That's what i see when i use amarok to play mp3
[16:55] <neurobuntu> Daliang does it play mp3s?
[16:55] <indio> How do I remove evolution and all of its dependencies?
[16:55] <_eMaX_> eitreach, I've tried kde4 and was not very convinced
[16:55] <The-Seiman> cygoku, pastebin an lsmod
[16:55] <neurobuntu> indio, why do you want to remove evolution?
[16:55] <eitreach> _eMaX_: but did you try 4.1 beta?
[16:55] <neurobuntu> indio, have you tried using synaptic?
[16:55] <indio> neurobuntu: I don't use it.
[16:55] <DaLiang> ﻿neurobuntu No i can't hear anything and it said ﻿音频输出不可用；设备忙。
[16:55] <DaLiang> xine parameters:
[16:55] <_eMaX_> eitreach, particularly the fact that "icons" on the desktop are not really bound to files ~/Desktop - and then that taskbar was not really what I expected. And dolphin was a joke.
[16:56] <indio> neurobuntu: No. Just commandline.
[16:56] <neurobuntu> indio: try using synaptic to remove it, be warned though that I know of a lot of people that have ruined their install by removing evolution incorrectly. I would really just recommend removing it from the menu
[16:56] <_eMaX_> eitreach, looked like someone coming from apple trying at all cost to get his ipod like file manager on linux
[16:56] <neurobuntu> indio and forgetting its there
[16:56] <neurobuntu> indio: it can't take more then a few MB of space
[16:56] <net> i want a turbo c like app for compiling and running c programs
[16:56] <_eMaX_> eitreach, ok maybe I'm not flexible enough, but actually I completely moved away from kde now and went to gnome and am pretty happy
[16:57] <eitreach> _eMaX_: ...
[16:57] <indio> neurobuntu: I wastes bandwidth with updates.
[16:57] <neurobuntu> DaLiang, try going back to #ubuntu-cn I can't read chinese
[16:57] <KleRoi> hello, I downloaded and installed google earth for linux, I am on ubuntu edgy and i have an ati radeon x1600 for gfx. When I try to run google earth i get this problem:  "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".  Any help?
[16:57] <eitreach> _eMaX_: again, did you try 4.1 Beta, or the earlier versions?
[16:57] <_eMaX_> eitreach, why not install it in a vmware first and see whether you like it
[16:57] <kimmey2k3> How can i set my locale to be no_nb UTF-8?
[16:57] <DaLiang> ﻿neurobuntu A goodheartman tell me to run"gstreamer-properties'
[16:57] <cygoku> The-Seiman : http://pastebin.com/m43a67ea8
[16:57] <mystery_> how do i get back to the compiz chat
[16:57] <_eMaX_> eitreach, I actually cannot really remember. It was like 3 weeks ago
[16:57] <eitreach> _eMaX_: then it wasn't. I'm looking for opinions on 4.1 beta.
[16:57] <_eMaX_> ok np
[16:58] <Jack_Sparrow> mystery_    /join #compiz
[16:58] <neurobuntu> indio, I would recommend you try using the Synaptic Package Manager to remove it
[16:58] <_eMaX_> as I said, just try it in a virtual machine. Actually, if you use xephyr, you can run kde4 inside a gnome session
[16:58] <The-Seiman> cygoku : you don't have ndiswrapper installed :p
[16:58] <net> kermos , i want a turbo c like app for compiling and running c programs
[16:58] <KleRoi> hello, I downloaded and installed google earth for linux, I am on ubuntu edgy and i have an ati radeon x1600 for gfx. When I try to run google earth i get this problem:  "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".  Any help?
[16:58] <indio> neurobuntu: OK.
[16:58] <DaLiang> ﻿neurobuntu Sorry but that the computer's promble,i just tell what i see
[16:58] <_eMaX_> KleRoi, are you sure you're having dri?
[16:58] <neurobuntu> DaLiang: have you tried going back to #ubuntu-cn today/
[16:58] <pmk> there is a way to search inside pdf files?
[16:58] <KleRoi> _eMaX_:  what do you mean?
[16:58] <neurobuntu> ?
[16:58] <_eMaX_> KleRoi, what's your graphic card
[16:59] <DaLiang> ﻿neurobuntu ThankYou All The same!!!
[16:59] <Jack_Sparrow> KleRoi It means your video card driver is not properly installed
[16:59] <net> neurobuntu,i want a turbo c like app for compiling and running c programs
[16:59] <neurobuntu> pmk: it depends on the pdf, if the pdf is saved as formated text then yes, if it is an image then know
[16:59] <KleRoi> _eMaX_:  its an ati mobiity radeon x1600
[16:59] <_eMaX_> KleRoi, is that a thinkpad?
[16:59] <cygoku> The-Seiman, yes it is, but it is not enable since I cannot go wired because I am at work, so I need to use wireless but with 1Mb / s because of braodcom.
[16:59] <neurobuntu> net: ok...
[16:59] <Jack_Sparrow> KleRoi YOu know edgy has passed end of life
[16:59] <KleRoi> _eMaX_:  erm, whats a thinkpad? anyway its properly installed with the right drivers
[16:59] <net> neurobuntu , tell me please
[17:00] <KleRoi> erm Jack_Sparrow yes i know but i haven't yet updated ubuntu
[17:00] <pmk> neurobuntu: how can i search inside them?
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !edgy
[17:00] <neurobuntu> net: have you tried google? http://www.sandroid.org/TurboC/
[17:00] <pmk> neurobuntu: lots of them...
[17:00] <KleRoi> oh wait i didn't mean edgy Jack_Sparrow, i meant gutsy
[17:00] <KleRoi> my bad
[17:00] <neurobuntu> pmk: hmm...  you need to get beagle to search them and index them
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> KleRoi Huge diff
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ok
[17:00] <KleRoi> yeah i  know ^^"
[17:00] <neurobuntu> I'm not much of an expert on beagle though
[17:00] <The-Seiman> cygoku : so i can't help you because there's no open module to use with the kernel instead of ndiswrapper ...
[17:01] <_eMaX_> KleRoi, what gives fglrxinfo
[17:01] <pmk> neurobuntu: and the tracker that comes with ubuntu?
[17:02] <KleRoi> _eMaX_: http://pastebin.com/m6aa080a7
[17:02] <The-Seiman> well i'll return rebuilding my kernel... good chance cygoku
[17:02] <neurobuntu> pmk: I believe that the tracker that comes with ubuntu is beagle, but I'm not sure
[17:02] <neurobuntu> i've never really used it
[17:02] <neurobuntu> pmk, you could try getting google desktop and using that
[17:02] <_eMaX_> KleRoi, that's ok
[17:02] <gorg> what am i doing wrong?...
[17:02] <gorg> gorg@gorgy:~$ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:02] <gorg> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[17:02] <gorg> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[17:02] <FloodBot1> gorg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:03] <The-Seiman> gorg, close synaptic
[17:03] <Jack_Sparrow> gorg Shut down any other package manager you have open
[17:03] <The-Seiman> or the update manager
[17:03] <azutalors> bonjour
[17:03] <_eMaX_> KleRoi,  than I don't know since that's fine
[17:03] <pub> does xmms work on ubuntu
[17:03] <The-Seiman> salut, azutalors : #ubuntu-fr for the french community ;)
[17:03] <KleRoi> mmm it's good but still not great i guess _eMaX_. Also since i've updated to gutsy i had some other problems with the gfx... I can't run warcraft3 even if before the update i could :S
[17:03] <_eMaX_> KleRoi, are you sure you start google-earth on the right display?
[17:03] <tschaka^> pub when using hardy, use audacious instead
[17:03] <pmk> neurobuntu: and how can i disable the tracker?
[17:04] <KleRoi> yes _eMaX_ im sure of that
[17:04] <_eMaX_> KleRoi, see also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=697269
[17:04] <pub> alright, thank  you tschakar^^
[17:04] <azutalors> salut the seiman
[17:04] <PdUb101> hi guys, can someone help me create a launcher to my music folder on my xp partition, i currently have a launcher that access my xp partition, but the same path won't work when i try to point it at my music folder??
[17:04] <_eMaX_> KleRoi, this DISPLAY thing very much annoyed me as I saw MESA without realizing that it was MESA on :1.0 while it was ATI on :0.0
[17:05] <KleRoi> _eMaX_:  mmm ok
[17:05] <pub> i also have another problem
[17:05] <pub> i recently converted from xp to linux
[17:05] <c_lisp> great job pub :p
[17:05] <_eMaX_> I'll install the latest version of google-earth and telly ou
[17:05] <pub> im assuming that nautilius is just like a my computer browser?
[17:05] <pub> to view folders and hard drives
[17:05] <c_lisp> correect its like windows explorer
[17:05] <tschaka^> pub yes
[17:05] <pub> ahh yes
[17:05] <pikkendorff> hola
[17:05] <KleRoi> well thanks for the help _eMaX_ and Jack_Sparrow. I think i'll try to just update ubuntu to 8.04 and see if that changes anything
[17:06] <The-Seiman> it's more than that, without it you can't have desktop icons and other stuffs
[17:06] <dr_Willis> pub,  its the 'file manager' correct.
[17:06] <pub> i installed the fluxbox but when i go into nautilus, i go back to the gnome interface
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> KleRoi Make a full backup first
[17:06] <pmk> in the 2.6.24-16-generic the inotify is enabled?
[17:06] <cdavis> It has been suggested in the forums to alleviate my hardy freezing problems to install the backports kernel modules. Do I just apt-get install linux-backports-modules-2.6.24-18-generic? does it aumatically replace the modules I already have installed for that kernel?
[17:06] <dr_Willis> pub,  there are other filemanagers.  nautilous is the default gnome file manager, and it also does the icons on the desktop.
[17:06] <neurobuntu> pmk: not sure
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> KleRoi Do you want to see my ati notes for gutsy before you do that
[17:06] <KleRoi> Jack_Sparrow:  i never do backups! It's part of the risk :D nah joking, something ALWAYS goes wrong when I update something
[17:06] <pub> what would work with fluxbox? so i wouldn't have to go back to gnome interface
[17:06] <KleRoi> mm sure Jack_Sparrow tell me
[17:06] <The-Seiman> pub : nautilis --no-desktop
[17:06] <dr_Willis> pub,  fluxbox is Just a 'window manager' it dosent have any of its own file managers.
[17:06] <pub> otherwise i need to log out and back in
[17:07] <gree2> Hi, I have a problem that I hope someone in here can help me with. Ubuntu just ran the auto update, whilst installing, I noticed that ntfs-3g was being installed. I have just tried to mount an external harddrive (never had any problems before the update) any clues?
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> KleRoi I will pastebin them.. one sec
[17:07] <pub> but i lose the right click advantage
[17:07] <pub> lol
[17:07] <c_lisp> lol
[17:07] <klaxian> does anyone have an idea why my computer will boot in safe mode, but not regualar?  this just started happening
[17:07] <dr_Willis> pub,   not sure what you are meaning by 'go back to'  You can tell nautilus to not draw the desktop. like  The-Seiman  said.
[17:07] <pmk> how can i know if the inotify module is enabled on my kernel?
[17:07] <pub> alright thanks
[17:07] <theFATMAN> After installing the M$ truetype fonts, Firefox only dispays Times New Roman, nothing else. I can't change it in forums or anywhere else. Any thoughts?
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> KleRoi http://paste.ubuntu.com/19088/
[17:07] <tschaka^> pub if u may wanna try another light wight window manager, try xfce instead, its much more user friendly than fluxbox.
[17:07] <drewbert> Hello I installed python-sqlite via synaptic, but when I run python and do import sqlite it says no module named sqlite.
[17:07] <cygoku> Well ndiswrapper is at the bottom of  /etc/modules but doesn't load accoding to The-Seiman.
[17:08] <KleRoi> ok thanks Jack_Sparrow
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:08] <tschaka^> pub tho not as light as fluxbox :p
[17:08] <CanOfRiot> hi all. i want to create proffesional flash components, basically flash programs that i can embed in a web browser, i know there is flash studio or something for windows, whats the equivalent for linux????
[17:08] <drewbert> Is there something I am forgetting to do.  I admit I'm not incredibly familier with pythong.
[17:08] <CanOfRiot> hi all. i want to create proffesional flash components, basically flash programs that i can embed in a web browser, i know there is flash studio or something for windows, whats the equivalent for linux????
[17:08] <The-Seiman> cygoku : recompile the kernel with the actual config + alsa drivers + ndiswrapper xD
[17:08] <_eMaX_> KleRoi, anyway if I run google-earth on :1.0, so inside compiz, it is slow. If i run it on :0.0 (but then w/o window decorations), it is very fast
[17:08] <dr_Willis> Im seeing way to much flash on web sites these days... :)
[17:08] <_eMaX_> ok
[17:08] <_eMaX_> game time
[17:08] <The-Seiman> cygoku : that's what i'm doing :p
[17:08] <drewbert> CanOfRiot: there's no equivalent in linux, don't spam your questions.
[17:08] <pub>  nautilus --no-desktop worked beautifully
[17:08] <pub> thank you, haha
[17:08] <CanOfRiot> no equivalent?
[17:08] <The-Seiman> no problem :p
[17:09] <pub> i really think i am going to enjoy linux much more than xp
[17:09] <CanOfRiot> so how do linux users make flash programs?
[17:09] <tschaka^> pub nice :) have fun then :)
[17:09] <drewbert> CanOfRiot: They released a flex sdk for linux.
[17:09] <c_lisp> I hkknow I have pub
[17:09] <CanOfRiot> whats flex sdk
[17:09] <klaxian> is there a log where i can check why my computer won't boot using normal kernel paremeters?  it will boot in safe mode though
[17:09] <drewbert> CanOfRiot: google.
[17:09] <pub> how did you guys go about learning stuff
[17:09] <pub> like buy a book or something
[17:09] <pub> or read up online
[17:09] <gree2> Hi, I have a problem that I hope someone in here can help me with. Ubuntu just ran the auto update, whilst installing, I noticed that ntfs-3g was being installed. I have just tried to mount an external harddrive (never had any problems before the update) any clues?
[17:09] <talntid> school of hard knocks :P
[17:09] <tschaka^> pub mostly online, through forums and google :)
[17:09] <dr_Willis> pub,  bookstores and their Bargin Bins are a MUST check out. :)
[17:10] <MagicMoonLight> ****
[17:10] <Jack_Sparrow> pub There are lots of online resources for all subjects
[17:10] <frostburn> pub, honestly, everything I learned about linux I got through installing gentoo
[17:10] <The-Seiman> pub: irc and forums ;)
[17:10] <drewbert> pub: Time and Pain
[17:10] <dr_Willis> pub,  a lot of the books are now in pdf/downloadable formats  these days also.
[17:10] <frostburn> well as a starter
[17:10] <neurobuntu> pub: time
[17:10] <noishe> note: while it may be possible to do a simple upgrade from a 64bit to a 32bit, the cd don't make it easy. so clean install (or advice) is gonna have to work.
[17:10] <pub> haha thanks
[17:10] <drewbert> neurobuntu: ^^
[17:10] <pub> i was going to go with gentoo
[17:10] <theFATMAN> After installing the M$ truetype fonts, Firefox only dispays Times New Roman, nothing else. I can't change it in forums or anywhere else. Any thoughts?
[17:10] <pub> but was informed that ubuntu might be a bit more "novice friendly"
[17:10] <pub> hehe
[17:10] <dr_Willis> pub,  not a good idea for a total linux begeiiner. :)
[17:10] <neurobuntu> drewbert you beat me to it
[17:11] <pub> yeah
[17:11] <c_lisp> yea ubuntu is a great choice :)
[17:11] <dr_Willis> and gentoo will take you   a week to install. :P
[17:11] <cygoku> The-Seiman : I am already using ndiswrapper 1.53 that I have compiled.
[17:11] <gverig> Question... How can I add domains into resolve.conf (it's regenerated by Network Manager) without adding profiles? I am tired of having to switch profiles every time I log in :(
[17:11] <MagicMoonLight> Has Anyone Ever Got Kiba-Dock Fully Working In Hardy???????
[17:11] <indio> Hi.
[17:11] <cygoku> The-Seiman : And compiling kernel will break to many stuff.
[17:12] <indio> Does aptitude confirms removal of packages?
[17:12] <neurobuntu> indio, sometimes it does
[17:12] <pub> glad i know somewhere i can get help =)
[17:12] <drewbert> gentoo is for power users, hard core guys, and even then you have to consider whether or not you'll be installing/removing much stuff, because if so the time you save by having faster programs might be wasted on the time you spend compiling them
[17:13] <The-Seiman> cygoku: what does cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist | grep "bcm43xx" give you ?
[17:13] <pub> now just to install audacious so i can listen to some tunes while learning stuff ;D
[17:13] <[LMM]Iowahc> hy there. got a real ogward problem. When i use my Gutsy with an USB Mouse, i can only click when Control is pressed, any suggestions?
[17:13] <cygoku> The-Seiman : bcm43xx is blacklisted.
[17:14] <c_lisp> pub should get mplayers its real nice :)
[17:14] <c_lisp> audacious for for editing music etc
[17:14] <pub> oh, i don't want to edit
[17:14] <pub> just listen
[17:14] <pub> =)
[17:14] <jo_> hi everybody, could someone of you tell me, whether the packages needed for using a D-Link G-520+ WLAN-Adapter (Chip: ACX-111) (probably linux-restricted-modules-386) are installed when I choose "install a command line system" on a ubuntu alternate install cd?
[17:14] <PdUb101> hey guys sorry to keep asking, but i can't figure out how to get a launcher to tag a music folder in the xp partition.. any help please?
[17:14] <neurobuntu> pub: here are a few mp3 players to try: Exaile, Amarok, mplayer
[17:14] <pub> i asked a few minutes about xmms but was hinted at audacious :P
[17:14] <neurobuntu> pub:  I recommend Exaile, its fantastic
[17:14] <ngogn> I want to watch YouTube using FireFox.  When I open a YouTube webpage, I see a black square for a fraction of a second, then white (or perhaps transparent).  I see nothing, I hear nothing. When I right-click on the video part of the webpage, I get a context menu for Gnash.
[17:15] <theFATMAN> pub: xmms is no longer in development
[17:15] <tschaka^> pub audacious is for listening, its quite similar (very simmilar indeed) to xmms.
[17:15] <[LMM]Iowahc> hy there. got a real ogward problem. When i use my Gutsy with an USB Mouse, i can only click when Control is pressed, any suggestions?
[17:15] <indio> When a package is updated, what happens with new configuration files and existing ones ?
[17:15] <tschaka^> pub for editing, your choice would be AUDACITY.
[17:15] <tschaka^> :P
[17:15] <theFATMAN> After installing the M$ truetype fonts, Firefox only dispays Times New Roman, nothing else. I can't change it in forums or anywhere else. Any thoughts?
[17:15] <c_lisp> gnash been suding with flasih install monzillia-nonfree flash :)
[17:15] <The-Seiman> cygoku: what laptop do you have ?
[17:15] <The-Seiman> cygoku: acer i think ?
[17:16] <c_lisp> remember to remove gnash  to
[17:16] <cdavis> It has been suggested in the forums to alleviate my hardy freezing problems to install the backports kernel modules. Do I just apt-get install linux-backports-modules-2.6.24-18-generic? does it aumatically replace the modules I already have installed for that kernel?
[17:16] <cygoku> The-Seiman : Dell Inspiron 6400.
[17:16] <Drittponken> how do i display my mac adress via a command in the terminal?
[17:16] <pub> alright
[17:16] <[LMM]Iowahc> Drittponken ifconfig
[17:16] <c_lisp> drittpoken ifconfig
[17:16] <[LMM]Iowahc> look for the line which says MAC ;)
[17:16] <noishe> the line that says HWaddr
[17:16] <[LMM]Iowahc> oh sorry ;)
[17:17] <[LMM]Iowahc> I got a real ogward problem. When i use my Gutsy with an USB Mouse, i can only click when Control is pressed, any suggestions?
[17:17] <Drittponken> thank you
[17:17] <noishe> yeah i just looked :) it's the first line though
[17:17] <The-Seiman> cygoku: then i have no idea why ndiswrapper is not loaded :/
[17:17] <indio> Gentoo handles this by renaming new config files and letting the user merge them if necessary, how does Ubuntu handle this ?
[17:17] <DarkAudit> is there a known problem with Rhythmbox and last.fm?
[17:17] <cygoku> The-Seiman : Darn it :( Even if I blacklist b43 and bcm43xx, it is not loading :(
[17:18] <Rioting_pacifist> firefox just stoped working, i turned of an extention and clicked reboot and it now refuses to start (not even anything in console with -P
[17:18] <ngogn> Thank you c_lisp
[17:18] <Rioting_pacifist> nvm it suddenly decided to work, after a reboot
[17:18] <c_lisp> np
[17:19] <c_lisp> rioting_pasifist next time try killall firefox-bin
[17:19] <pub> is it possible to turn off the password prompt for everything
[17:19] <c_lisp> yea but then your system will be vurnable to getting hack pub
[17:19] <pub> oh, we don't want that now
[17:20] <cygoku> LOL, even using fw-b43cutter with the right wl-apsta.o I am still getting crappy speed :(
[17:20] <The-Seiman> cygoku : check this, it's in french : http://ubuntuondell.tuxfamily.org/installation/le-wifi-avec-une-broadcom-1390/
[17:20] <The-Seiman> cygoku: it talks about the wifi in the dell inspiron 6400 laptop
[17:20] <cygoku> The-Seiman : Do I understand french ?
[17:20] <Rioting_pacifist> nope well it poped up the check extentions thing but it didnt finish, ps -A | grep fire gives nothing
[17:20] <eix> any idea why linux sees only 438MB of RAM instead of 1024?
[17:21] <jeed> eix, someone stole your ram
[17:21] <The-Seiman> cygoku : you have the google language tools, and the shell commands are not too hard to understand i think :p
[17:21] <eix> jeed: mmh..maybe it was a leprechaun
[17:21] <pub> exaile isn't recognizing my additional hard drive ;(
[17:21] <pub> DSK2_VOL1
[17:21] <jeed> eix, it was the pixies
[17:21] <cygoku> The-Seiman : It's alright, french is my 1st language anyway LOL :P
[17:22] <benpicco_> eix, even in cat /proc/meninfo?
[17:22] <hoonteke> hardy: attached new monitor, how do I make it an extension of my desktop, not a mirror?
[17:22] <eix> ok, any idea why memtest sees 1024MB of RAM but the "free" and "htop" commands only 438MB?
[17:22] <eix> benpicco_: let me check that
[17:22] <soundray> I have an SD card that gives me I/O errors on some files. Is there any tool that would try harder, or read the files at least partially?
[17:22] <Rioting_pacifist> hmm firefox finally launched
[17:22] <The-Seiman> cygoku: d'accord :p
[17:22] <pmk> how can i turn of the tracker?
[17:22] <cygoku> :P
[17:22] <pmk> turn off
[17:22] <eix> benpicco_: MemTotal:       449400 kB
[17:22] <ksbalaji> my first boot screen messages is cluttered with many Hardy versions. How to remove them pl?
[17:23] <soundray> pmk: is it hogging your CPU?
[17:23] <Jack_Sparrow> eix  unused processes are swapped out to save ram .. when data is not needed .. its flushed to swap Some may also be in use as shared video for onboard video controller
[17:23] <theFATMAN> After installing the M$ truetype fonts, Firefox only dispays Times New Roman, nothing else. I can't change it in forums or anywhere else. Any thoughts?
[17:23] <eix> the BIOS test says 1024MB too
[17:23] <pub> actually, nothing recognizes the additional hard drive besides nautilus
[17:23] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: why should swap have anything to do with my RAM?
[17:23] <c_lisp> doubt that pub :)
[17:23] <pmk> soundray: nop, it doesnt works for me, i need to search inside .doc and .pdf files...i will use google desktop instead
[17:24] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: I don't think that the video card of a dedicated server takes 512MB...
[17:24] <pub> lol i'll make a link to and move it to my file system
[17:24] <pub> haha
[17:24] <c_lisp> nautilus is just eh graphical interface
[17:24] <LD32> I had a problem during my Gutsy to Hardy upgrade, and I would like to simply reinstall everything that is in my /var/cache/apt/archives/ folder. Is there an easy way of doing this?
[17:24] <PdUb101> how would i go about putting /documents and settings/ in a launcher, it keeps stopping at "/documents" and doesn't read the rest of the command line
[17:24] <Riotta> theFATMAN: install the fonts in /home/fatman/.fonts
[17:24] <Jack_Sparrow> eix Just pasting a link on how some of that works...  Is it shared video ram and how much are you having the bios use for vide..
[17:24] <bobesponja> hi
[17:24] <c_lisp> pdub101 you can do this in either 2 ways where its a space type \ tor it to make its own space or put the path in quotes
[17:25] <pub> hahah awesome, that worked
[17:25] <Rioting_pacifist> guys it was miro, if you install miro (through repos) it screws up firefox royally
[17:25] <Riotta> and then restart Xsession ctrl+alt+backspace
[17:25] <c_lisp> but I find put \ then hitting tab to autofill is easier
[17:25] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: ok, thanks
[17:25] <bobesponja> I just did an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade on a clean hardy install and I got that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19091/ now I can't install anything :/
[17:25] <Jack_Sparrow> eix How big is your swap partition, just out of curiosity
[17:25] <PdUb101> c_lisp: ok my entire path is "/media/sda1/Documents and Settings/Paul/My Documents/LimeWire/Saved" so should i put it in paths like that??
[17:25] <buckhill> anyone know much about "local apps" running properly on ubuntu/edubuntu? looking to run Firefox on a terminal machine... what do you think the RAM requirements would be?
[17:25] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: I'll have somebody check the video card settings in BIOS
[17:26] <Jack_Sparrow> eix It certainly wont be using 512, but it will be using some
[17:26] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: 1341MB
[17:26] <Jack_Sparrow> eix that is plenty for your ram
[17:26] <jo_> could someone of you tell me, whether the packages needed for using a D-Link G-520+ WLAN-Adapter (Chip: ACX-111) (probably linux-restricted-modules-386) are installed when I choose "install a command line system" on a ubuntu alternate install cd?
[17:26] <pub> is GKrellM nice ?
[17:26] <soundray> pmk: System-Preferences-Sessions -- untick the two tracker items
[17:26] <c_lisp> pdub101 so thep /media/sda1/Documents\{tab here}
[17:26] <c_lisp> it will start autofilling of ryou
[17:26] <soundray> pmk: you will still have to kill both for the current session
[17:27] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: too much? that's what Ubuntu took by default
[17:27] <pmk> soundray: thanks!
[17:27] <LD32> I had a problem during my Gutsy to Hardy upgrade, and I would like to simply reinstall all the .deb files in my /var/cache/apt/archives/ folder. Is there some command to do this?
[17:27] <Jack_Sparrow> eix No.. not too much..  hard drive space isnt as costly as it used to be
[17:27] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: it's a 80GB hard disk
[17:28] <PdUb101> c_lisp: ahh great! i got it :) thanks so much for your help!!
[17:28] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: how can I tell the kernel not to spoil 512MB for the swap management?
[17:28] <Matt_Kaiser-ENG> quit
[17:28] <pmk> soundray: do you know where all the documentations files of my computer are?
[17:28] <yell0w> eix: /etc/fstab
[17:29] <eix> yell0w: ...and?
[17:29] <c_lisp> np
[17:29] <Jack_Sparrow> eix I dont know that it is swap management, but the server kernels are pretty smart, they use it the way it suits how you are using the system.  Are you running out of ram or into ram related issues, or you just want to see that number at 1024
[17:29] <pub> what should i go for .tar.bz2 or .tar.gz  file formats
[17:29] <yell0w> eix: erhh comment out that swap part if you don't want it ?
[17:29] <poosenki> i'm using scim but there seems to be a whole lot of missing kanji. is there anything to download to increase the support?
[17:30] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: I got a kernel panic this morning, so I can think this is part of the problem
[17:30] <softwork> hi, ubuntu kernel 2.6.24-18 is last version?
[17:30] <eix> yell0w: if I comment the swap partition I will get 1024MB?
[17:30] <specialchar> evening. Dovecot and ssl is causing me to loose the will to live
[17:30] <softwork> because some people get 2.6.24-19
[17:30] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: but can really a swap partition make 1/2 of RAM invisible?
[17:30] <specialchar> im getting the error "Client didn't present valid SSL certificate"
[17:30] <specialchar> anyone got any ideas?
[17:30] <Levia> so I installed 7.1 yesterday, and upgraded to 8.04, but now I'm having a odd problem - it seems that some parts of the interface are..'old'. Update manager looks old, Synaptic, and login window preferences and such. I have a example of how it looks here: http://alternatestorm.com/gaar.png
[17:30] <softwork> hi, ubuntu kernel 2.6.24-18 is last version?
[17:30] <softwork> because some people get 2.6.24-19
[17:30] <Jack_Sparrow> eix The people in #Ubuntu-server   will be better people to ask.. although they may be slower than in here
[17:31] <yell0w> eix: what exactly is your memory/swap condition and what you want out of it ?
[17:31] <specialchar> @levia, try deleting (or moving) .gnome from your home folder
[17:31] <Cyndrework> setting up ubuntu desktop in order to monitor network traffic.  Any good tutorials on how to bridge the ethernet cards and sniff the packets?
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> eix No, it can make your ram invisible
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> cant
[17:31] <softwork> !kernel
[17:31] <softwork> !last kernel
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> eix Sorry.. no it can not
[17:31] <softwork> hmmmmmmmmm
[17:32] <eix> yell0w: I have 1024MB of RAM but I can see only less than half, so I am wondering who's taking the rest
[17:32] <camason> I have 3 screens, with 2 X sessions. Is it possible to move an application on 1 X session over to the other?
[17:32] <specialchar> anyone familiar with dovecot?
[17:32] <softwork> no
[17:32] <whileimhere> Hi. Is there a VM for Ubuntu?
[17:32] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: ok
[17:32] <softwork> hi, ubuntu kernel 2.6.24-18 is last version?
[17:32] <specialchar> @whileimhere virtuabox is pretty rocking
[17:32] <Jack_Sparrow> eix Was thios installed as a live system and converted to a server or was the server cd used from the start
[17:33] <gree2> xen is cool
[17:33] <richcollins> How do I show the packages I have installed using the aptitude on the command line?
[17:33] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: the server cd from start
[17:33] <ksbalaji> My first boot screen is cluttered with many Hardy boot versions. How to remove unwanted versions please?
[17:33] <richcollins> ordered by reverse installation date would be nice
[17:33] <eix> there was a livecd system but then it was re-partitioned
[17:33] <yell0w> eix: what does free -m tell you ?
[17:33] <Jack_Sparrow> eix Single ram chip or mismatched chips multiple chips etc
[17:33] <lightrush> I need someone with Intel/NVIDIA lappie - preferably DELL with problems with SUSPEND/RESUME
[17:34] <hotmonkeyluv> how can I change the name of my computer (from ubuntu to hax0r for example)
[17:34] <specialchar> @ksbalaji open up /boot/grub/menu.lst and put a # before any entries you dont want
[17:34] <gree2> can somebody help me please, I am unable to mount an external harddrive, I think it was caused by ubuntu autoupdating ntfs-3g
[17:34] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: I think there are chips of different sizes but it's a brand new server, I would not say it's broken
[17:34] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: the memtest went OK
[17:34] <eix> yell0w: http://rafb.net/p/zGSQxJ23.html
[17:34] <lightrush> I need someone for testing with Intel/NVIDIA lappie - preferably DELL with problems with SUSPEND/RESUME
[17:34] <pub> anyone use gkrellm ?
[17:34] <ksbalaji> Specialchar thanks!
[17:35] <lightrush> pub, <3 conky
[17:35] <Jack_Sparrow> eix so one 512 and two differenr 256's?
[17:35] <mar77i> hi there. I've got a problem with an not installable and not purgeable (see http://pastebin.ca/1043957), thank you for any help
[17:35] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: yes, maybe
[17:35] <lightrush> !seen 1
[17:35] <mar77i> the package is mysql-server - "not installed" according to apt
[17:35] <Levia> specialchar: it still looks old somehow
[17:35] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: I think 128+438+438
[17:36] <Jack_Sparrow> eix Not saying it is the prob..  but if you pull the two 256's and test mem again it might be worth the time and effort
[17:36] <lightrush> Come on guys - noone has problems with Intel/NVIDIA laptop's suspend?
[17:36] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: you are saying that running the test on the single modules might give different results?
[17:36] <unavailable> Question: does dnsmasq conflict with dhcp?
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> eix Where or how do you get 438 meg chips
[17:37] <pub> conky?
[17:37] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: don't tell me..the remote technician told me that
[17:37] <pub> lightrush, what is conky?
[17:37] <yell0w> eix: that's bull
[17:37] <yell0w> eix: he's tripping you
[17:38] <lightrush> pub, conky = beautiful, duper-customizab, all-stuff-showing thingy
[17:38] <eix> yell0w: I think he's just a redneck
[17:38] <lightrush> pub, give it a google
[17:38] <pub> am doing now :)
[17:38] <mar77i> can anyone help me please?
[17:38] <Bodsda> mar77i, ask your question
[17:38] <lightrush> pub, I sat conky in respect that I like it much better than GKrellM
[17:38] <yell0w> eix: restart, go to BIOS/SETUP, lookup the value there
[17:38] <backlash666> hi can anyone tell me the correct way to setup the drivers for th NVIDIA 9800gtx, i have tried many times and have now lost my patience completely, have just reinstalled ubuntu 8.04 fresh copy, and want to know what i should do from the beginning please
[17:38] <eix> yell0w: the same redneck will check that for me
[17:38] <lightrush> I need someone for testing with Intel/NVIDIA lappie - preferably DELL with problems with SUSPEND/RESUME
[17:39] <yell0w> eix: well don't depend on the same redneck,see for youself
[17:39] <derspankster> yesterday's update killed my wireless, broadcom 4318. Anyone else have this issue or have a fix?
[17:39] <yell0w> derspankster: ndiswrapper ?
[17:39] <mar77i> hi there. I've got a problem with an not installable and not purgeable (see http://pastebin.ca/1043957), thank you for any help
[17:39] <mar77i> the package is mysql-server - "not installed" according to apt
[17:39] <The-Seiman> i'll reboot for the sixth time the pc to see if the kernel has sound support ( alsa ) now ...
[17:39] <The-Seiman> bye all
[17:39] <blue_wolf> hello
[17:40] <derspankster> yell0w, I'm with you there, installed it but havn't tried config as yet.
[17:40] <eix> yell0w: it's on an island on the other side of the globe
[17:40] <unavailable> Jack_Sparrow 438 meg chips > you could stack 55 old skuul 8 meg chips, assuming one had 25% problem area
[17:40] <tj83> anyone know a channel for 8.04 server?
[17:40] <blue_wolf> how do i change the language side to write ( like ctrl=>shift on xp) for hebrew
[17:40] <Bodsda> tj83, you can ask your question here
[17:40] <eix> yell0w, Jack_Sparrow: running lshw I can see UNCLAIMED memory blocks and devices...that looks creepy!
[17:41] <derspankster> yell0w, do I need to disable b43?
[17:41] <lostaslostcanbe> ok where would i find log files for mounted drives and delete them
[17:41] <tj83> Bodsda, well... I was wondering if anyone knew how to set up cpusys for sharing a printer from a server... no GUI only command line.
[17:41] <Jack_Sparrow> eix I dont know who built your new server....  But there seem to be some gremlins in there
[17:41] <eix> yell0w, Jack_Sparrow: this is my lswh: http://rafb.net/p/tWj9yb95.html
[17:41] <unavailable> mogoi?
[17:42] <yell0w> derspankster: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff , works for me, bcm4318, latest driver from compaq
[17:42] <unavailable> just dont feed em
[17:42] <backlash666> is there anyone here that knows a lot about nvidia and its gfx drivers, relating to the 9800 GTX?
[17:42] <Jack_Sparrow> eix I need to have breakfast   yellow looks like a good person to look it over
[17:42] <eix> Jack_Sparrow: thank you man
[17:43] <unavailable> does anyone know anything about dnsmasq?
[17:43] <derspankster> yell0w, thanks, I'll look it over
[17:43] <lostaslostcanbe> ok where would i find log files for mounted drives and delete them
[17:43] <The-Seiman> i'm back
[17:43] <The-Seiman> i finally got this damn alsa working =D
[17:44] <adamb> anyone know off hand if wget can just display the source of a given url? then I would grep out what i need, i dont seem to see the flag. or any other utility that could do it?
[17:44] <tj83> Bodsda, any thoughts?
[17:44] <Bodsda> tj83, youll have to ask the channel not e
[17:44] <Bodsda> me*
[17:45] <unavailable> lostaslostcanbe http://www.ehow.com/how_2208480_mount-ntfs-drive-ubuntu.html
[17:46] <Bodsda> adamb, i dont think so
[17:46] <Bodsda> adama, i cant see anyhting like it in    man wget
[17:46] <tj83> Can someone give me a quick hand setting up cupsys on 8.04 server all command line? I am ssh'd into the server i want to be print server remotely... Any takes?
[17:47] <yell0w> eix: i don't know whta those UNCLAIMED are for, but the entry above it says you have only 512 MB ram in one bank out of the four banks
[17:47] <vodka> selam
[17:47] <jose> Hola
[17:47] <jose> icewn?
[17:48] <jose> hola
[17:48] <yell0w> !es | jose
[17:48] <elmargol> is there a way to enable svideo out on a nvidia card? (on the fly, no restart of X and no editing of xorg.conf)
[17:48] <unavailable> lostaslostcanbe that help u?
[17:48] <ksbalaji> I had to uninstall audacity as the beta version supported by hardy cannot find my sound output device. The repository also does not contain a stable audacity version. Any help pl?
[17:48] <jose> ok.. bye
[17:48] <Bodsda> hey guys, rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*      doesnt delete hidden folders. Is there some sort of option for rm that im missing?
[17:49] <BedMan> Bodsda: nope - that should delete hiden folders and such, but if you don't have permission on something it may fail
[17:49] <Bodsda> ksbalaji, if it is in the repo's then the Ubuntu devs/community believe it to be 'stable'
[17:49] <lostaslostcanbe> looking now and will let you know thanks
[17:50] <Bodsda> BedMan, im running it with sudo so there shouldnt be any probs there,.,. il try as root
[17:50] <The-Seiman> yeah, no more SOCK_RAW issues with Wine after recompiling the kernel with Filesystem capabilities on *_*
[17:50] <tschaka^> ksbalaji this could be caused by audacity not being able to use pulse audio.
[17:50] <grigris> !chan
[17:50] <Flannel> Bodsda: asterisks only expand to non-hidden files
[17:50] <BedMan> Bodsda: if you sudo'd the rm command - it *did* run as root
[17:50] <lostaslostcanbe> looks like its just what i was looking for
[17:51] <Bodsda> BedMan, i no, but im just tryin things
[17:51] <BedMan> Flannel: good call - he might have missed a few things
[17:51] <Bodsda> Flannel, how would /blah/blah/.*     work?
[17:51] <ksbalaji> Bodsda, but audacity, 1.3.+ is a beta version. In my computer, It does not recognize my sound device!
[17:51] <cdavis> It has been suggested in the forums to alleviate my hardy freezing problems to install the backports kernel modules. Do I just apt-get install linux-backports-modules-2.6.24-18-generic? does it automatically replace the modules I already have installed for that kernel?
[17:51] <BedMan> Bodsda: no, try rm -rf /bla/blaah/.
[17:51] <Bodsda> ksbalaji, im not disputing that im just saying it is considered stable enough for the repo's
[17:52] <Bodsda> Flannel, forget the 'how'
[17:52] <tschaka^> Bodsda ksbalaji audacity isnt able to use pulseaudio, i guess thats the point there, isnt it?
[17:52] <Muhammad_Saad> Can someone explain to me what a WINS server is?
[17:52] <ksbalaji> tschaka^, How to enable audacity use pulse audio?
[17:53] <backlash666> anyone here a restricted driver genius? nvidia related?
[17:53] <Slart> Muhammad_Saad: it's a windows networking thingy.. kind of like dns but for smb network, afaik
[17:53] <BedMan> Muhammad_Saad: Windows Internet Naming Service
[17:53] <unavailable> lostaslostcanbe glad to have ehlped
[17:53] <KyleK> cdavis: kernel depends on modules
[17:53] <grigris> #ubuntu-el
[17:53] <stemount^> !wins
[17:53] <tj83> so is there or isnt there a specific server channel?
[17:53] <highoct> hello everyone
[17:53] <tschaka^> u need to disable pulse instead (at least kill it before using audacity), tho i dont know how. i guess the guys in here can help you.
[17:53] <Slart> !irc
[17:53] <Bodsda> grigris, /j #ubuntu-el
[17:54] <Slart> tj83: check the page ubottu mentioned
[17:54] <tschaka^> ksbalaji u might want to go with "sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop"
[17:54] <tschaka^> ksbalaji and start audacity after.
[17:54] <grigris> bosda: #ubuntu-gr
[17:54] <unavailable> man those guys in #dd-wrt sure take their sweet a$$ time to respond to a question
[17:54] <ksbalaji> If I switch away from pulse audio, my esperanza does not work! If I tinket too much, my box just blinks. No sound.
[17:54] <Muhammad_Saad> BedMan, Slart: Is it necessary in a Windows network?
[17:54] <Slart> tschaka^: hmm, I use audacity without problems.. together with pulse audio
[17:54] <tj83> slart i will thank you
[17:55] <BedMan> Muhammad_Saad: no
[17:55] <melch> Hey anyone able to recomend gnome skins?
[17:55] <cdavis> KyleK, I don't understand what you mean? I understand that the kernel loads the modules, what I don't know is if I install the backports modules for my running kernel will those replace the modules that were installed from the non-backports repors?
[17:55] <BedMan> Muhammad_Saad: but it does help :-)
[17:55] <tschaka^> Slart ksbalaji well, then i dont think this is the issue :P
[17:55] <Slart> Muhammad_Saad: not really.. I think dns can be used instead..
[17:55] <unavailable> i use audacious with no problems
[17:55] <unavailable> not audacity
[17:55] <stemount^> Muhammad_Saad: it's mainly used for older versions of windows
[17:55] <Slart> oh.. audacity.. sorry.. I use audacious..
[17:55] <Slart> I need more coffee
[17:55] <tschaka^> oh ok.
[17:56] <tschaka^> well ksbalaji, try to disable pulse before using audacity and then enable it after with sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start
[17:56] <grigris> bodsda: #ubuntu-gr
[17:56] <Slart> doesn't audacity use oss only?
[17:56] <tschaka^> ksbalaji could work.
[17:56] <PrograCEZ> re
[17:56] <Slart> you should be able to run it with aoss
[17:56] <linuxkrn> does hardy come with a tool to browse wifi-networks? (without having to apt-get since I don't have connectivity yet)
[17:57] <Slart> linuxkrn: the network manager comes with a simple browser
[17:57] <Riotta> Hey guys, I need to install ubuntu on a machine which hasn't got CDROM nor Floppydrive, it has grub installed tho, how to do it any howto or tips, I got also ubuntu iso file ?
[17:57] <unavailable> ok i got one, in windows im able to switch around my line in, mic and speaker out  make them, all outs for surround sound.. any way to do that in ub??
[17:57] <Slart> Riotta: usb port?
[17:57] <tschaka^> ksbalaji tho it works with pulse audio running here tho.
[17:57] <Flannel> !install | Riotta
[17:57] <Riotta> nope
[17:57] <Flannel> Riotta: Check out the section on installing without removable media
[17:57] <Riotta> no pendrive possibility eighter
[17:57] <Riotta> ok thx
[17:58] <pub> how would i bind a key to go about opening the terminal
[17:58] <pub> say windows key+ R
[17:58] <linuxkrn> Slart: is that under system->Administration->Network ?
[17:58] <unavailable> pub  super key
[17:58] <unavailable> lol
[17:58] <Flannel> pub: do you know about alt-f2?
[17:58] <pub> alt f2 goes to the next frame
[17:58] <Slart> Riotta: install the files on a harddrive in another computer before installing that harddrive in the new computer
[17:58] <stemount^> Riotta: limiting your options there; there is always NFS/PXE network utilities
[17:58] <pub> hang on , lets just make sure
[17:58] <Flannel> pub: it should open the run dialog
[17:58] <Slart> linuxkrn: it's the network-icon thingy in the systray
[17:58] <pub> yup, 1-4 goes to the diff window frames
[17:58] <Flannel> or at least, by default
[17:59] <unavailable> alt + f2 brings up a run dialog
[17:59] <pub> Oh, well i am under fluxbox now
[17:59] <Slart> linuxkrn: if I left click on it I see the available wireless networks
[17:59] <Riotta> yeah but there isn't such option
[17:59] <Flannel> pub: Ah!  that'd do it.
[17:59] <pub> Hehe
[17:59] <Riotta> only grup option I heard that ther's possibility to mount iso's with grub and boot
[17:59] <cygoku> The-Seiman ? Still there ?
[17:59] <linuxkrn> Slart: hum, I start it and see "network settings" but no where to browse, even after unlocking
[18:00] <Flannel> pub: Those are important details.  This should help: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/newdoc.keybindings.php#grabber
[18:00] <The-Seiman> cygoku: yes i'm here ( sorry i was trying some wine stuff )
[18:00] <Slart> linuxkrn: is your wireless networking stuff working? I just left-click on that icon and the roll down menu shows the networks.. together with the wire networks
[18:00] <Typhox> What can I do to get my Built-In Microphone under 64-Bit Hardy to work?
[18:00] <pub> thank you very much Flannel
[18:00] <ksbalaji> as I said earlier, I have uninstalled audacity. I have one in my XP which I run thru WINE. It looks ugly without buttons, works though. I am waiting for a stable version.
[18:00] <unavailable>  in windows im able to switch around my line in, mic and speaker out  make them, all outs for surround sound.. any way to do that in ub??
[18:01] <Slart> linuxkrn: this is kind of the way it looks, http://kirsten.urbanzone.com/blog/uploads/misc/ubuntu_network_manager.png
[18:01] <linuxkrn> Slart: well having problems with it, but I installed other tools and they seem to see networks (kismet, wifiradar, etc)
[18:01] <The-Seiman> unavailable : alsamixer
[18:01] <lostaslostcanbe> not working
[18:01] <unavailable> ok its open
[18:01] <linuxkrn> Slart: so maybe there is a problem with mine then... I have a intel 4945 chipset
[18:02] <unavailable> now how do i make my mic an out
[18:02] <cdavis> how do I determine what driver I am using for my wireless card? iwl or iwp versions?
[18:02] <KyleK> cdavis: i mean when you request the kernel from apt-get it'll be like well i need the modules too
[18:02] <Slart> linuxkrn: I can't really help you setting it up... I'm just happy it worked out of the box with my laptop..
[18:03] <frosty> hey guys, running 8.04 here, and on a typical bootup it tried to run fsck and i received a bunch of errors including unknown commands..is there any way to fix this? I can't get a full run of fsck through......
[18:03] <incorrect> can anyone suggest a web file manager?
[18:03] <Slart> unavailable: are there any settings in the gnome-volume-control applet?
[18:03] <unavailable> nope
[18:03] <unavailable> i can only change volume
[18:04] <PrograCEZ> someone has the ubuntu file of the FUSE emulator?
[18:04] <Slart> unavailable: checked the preferences?
[18:04] <unavailable> yep
[18:04] <ksbalaji> The-Seiman, I have wine 9.59. Not all my XP stuff works in wine.
[18:04] <PennyCostco> why is it that my "shutdown" button on the top right corner doesnt work sometimes?
[18:04] <The-Seiman> ksbalaji : that's not new :)
[18:04] <Slart> unavailable: well.. then I'm out of ideas.. might be a secret, "only in the official drivers" thingy
[18:04] <Typhox> What can I do to get my Built-In Microphone under 64-Bit Hardy to work?
[18:04] <yusuo> hey i need some advice on a windows machine, is there a windows chat or can anyone help
[18:04] <Slart> yusuo: ##windows ?
[18:05] <unavailable> thats what i might think
[18:05] <unavailable> sure would be nice though
[18:05] <c_lisp>  
[18:05] <nikitis> Question:  How do I start the bluetooth service when the BT Hub was unplugged and is now plugged in?  I did not get a plug-in-play response.
[18:05] <The-Seiman> ksbalaji : but for programs which use SOCK_RAW sockets, you need to rebuild your kernel with Filesystem capabilities on, and then allow wine to create raw sockets using setcap
[18:05] <blekos> hi, at work we have a windows server 2003, is it possible to monitor its performance from my laptopo which is running (k)ubuntu?
[18:06] <melch> Anyone have any suggestions for possible gnome themes
[18:06] <Slart> blekos: well.. there's smnp .. you can do almost anything with that =)
[18:06] <nikitis> melch,  you making one?
[18:06] <Slart> melch: gnome-look.org
[18:06] <The-Seiman> ksbalaji : there's another way : using wine on root, but then, it will be like a normal insecure windows os ;)
[18:06] <yusuo> anyone know i can convert a raw file into an mp3
[18:06] <nikitis> Question:  How do I start the bluetooth service when the BT Hub was unplugged and is now plugged in?  I did not get a plug-in-play response.
[18:06] <melch> Slart, i know i was just trying to make a convo
[18:07] <unavailable> aslostaslostcanbe  how did that turn out with your mount issue?
[18:07] <Typhox> yusuo, what do you mean by a RAW-File? Wave?
[18:07] <Slart> yusuo: mencoder or something like that.. there's probably hundreds of ways of doing it
[18:07] <ksbalaji> The-Seiman, Do I use a old version?
[18:07] <nikitis> So nobody knows?
[18:07] <The-Seiman> ksbalaji: yes, but it's the same i think
[18:08] <Typhox> So nobody knows?
[18:08] <linuxkrn> Slart: strange, it's working now, just like that picture you sent. (roll eyes)
[18:08] <mad_max02> why did autocompletion in terminal stopped working ????
[18:08] <Slart> nikitis: is there a /etc/init.d/bluetooth script?
[18:08] <yusuo> nah a file off imeem.com gets saved into /tmp/ wanna make it mp3, cause this song is hard to find aint found it anywhere else
[18:08] <mad_max02> how can I enable it again
[18:09] <dan> is there an iTunes alternative for linux thats GUI?
[18:09] <Slart> mad_max02: you are really sure you disabled it?
[18:09] <yusuo> isn't rhythm box it
[18:09] <Slart> dan: nothing that uses the same itunes store
[18:09] <mad_max02> Slart, I didnt disable it but it just stopped working.
[18:09] <PennyCostco> why is it that my "shutdown" button on the top right corner doesnt work sometimes?
[18:09] <Slart> dan: amarok uses another, much smaller, store..
[18:09] <mad_max02> Slart, it completes first command with tab
[18:09] <yusuo> dan rythem box is compat with ipods
[18:10] <iDN> Hello, need help with my sansa clip. After a lot of research online, I'm in the following situation: my sansa clip doesn't work as an MTP device in all of the music softwares I've tried, but mainly amarok. Every time I connect it to the USB portal, my external HD's gone. Any thoughts?
[18:10] <blekos> smnp?
[18:10] <houmala> Can someone suggest a really good simple instruction website to set up virtual hosting in apache in ubuntu 8.04??
[18:10] <dan> Slart: ok, and how do you get amarok tunes to your ipod?
[18:10] <nikitis> Slart, yes there is
[18:10] <graft> Slart: although see their april 1st post, here: http://amarok.kde.org/en/node/446
[18:10] <mad_max02> Slart, I installed kubuntu few days ago and I had the same problem. Someone gave me a solution with editing a file I forgot which one. Now when I'm back to ubuntu I have the same problem again.
[18:11] <Slart> nikitis: then type sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
[18:11] <European-African> help! no administration tasks work! spm, update manager, harware drivers, all the things in System>>Administration!
[18:11] <dan> yusuo: does it work well?
[18:11] <nikitis> Slart, lsusb also shows the device, but when I rightclick on the bluetooth icon, I can't select properties like it doesn't recognize the device,  It was working but when I unplugged it
[18:11] <Slart> dan: I think it handles ipods.. not the newest gen 3 ipods though
[18:11] <iDN> mtp-detect comes up with an error (a few actually), which its source I coulnd't find. :(
[18:11] <nikitis> Slart, ok start worked
[18:11] <dan> Slart: thank you
[18:11] <denon> am I missing something? Can't seem to find a dhcp-server package for hardy
[18:11] <Slart> mad_max02: probably ~/.bashrc or something like that
[18:11] <yell0w> ksbalaji: fall back to alsa ?
[18:11] <frosty> Slart: when i boot, it tries to run fsck but, it gets errors about numerous unknown commands? is there any way i can fix this? it is pretty important to run fsck right?
[18:11] <nikitis> Slart, i had done /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart and no go
[18:11] <yusuo> yeah its a decent player, personally i use amarok, not sure if that has ipod support but i know songbird and rhytmn box do
[18:12] <Slart> !info dhcpd
[18:12] <frosty> Slart: could you help me?
[18:12] <Slart> !info dhcpd3
[18:12] <frosty> Slart: after the others of course :)
[18:12] <denon> Slart: presumably dhcp3-server
[18:12] <denon> but that's not there either :)
[18:12] <mad_max02> Slart, yeah thats it. Let me try and remember. Why did it stopped working ?? I think it has something to do with some updates I installed.
[18:12] <movEDX> apt-cache search dhcp
[18:12] <Slart> !info dhcp3-server
[18:12] <tschaka^> denon Package dhcp3-server
[18:12] <Typhox> Too many questions and too less answeres
[18:12] <denon> eh? hrm
[18:12] <Slart> ah.. there is it =) thanks denon
[18:12] <Typhox> That's bad
[18:12]  * denon tries again
[18:12] <iDN> !info mtp
[18:12] <graft> dan: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/04/how-to-use-amarok-to-manage-your-ipod-in-ubuntu/
[18:12] <iDN> !info libmtp
[18:13] <iDN> !info libmtp7
[18:13] <denon> tschaka^ / Slart: so would dhcp3-server not be in the default apt sources?
[18:13] <Slart> nikitis: try services in the system menu.. might be something there
[18:13] <denon> doesn't show up for me
[18:13] <European-African> how do update all the packages from the terminal?
[18:13] <iDN> Hmmm, it doesn't say something I didn't know already... :(
[18:13] <nikitis> Slart, Thanks for the help!
[18:13] <iDN> Hello, need help with my sansa clip. After a lot of research online, I'm in the following situation: my sansa clip doesn't work as an MTP device in all of the music softwares I've tried, but mainly amarok. Every time I connect it to the USB portal, my external HD's gone. mtp-detect comes up with an error (a few actually), which its source I coulnd't find. :( Any thoughts?
[18:13] <Slart> denon: it's in main so it should be available without enabling any extra repos
[18:13] <European-African> emerge world?
[18:14] <tschaka^> denon what does "sudo apt-get install dhcp3-server" ?
[18:14] <denon> Reading state information... Done
[18:14] <denon> E: Couldn't find package dhcp3-server
[18:14] <ksbalaji> European-African, I had the same problem. The panel sometimes does not work. Hardy? -not stable I think! Pl.reboot. or try recovery. It worked for me.
[18:14] <cdecarlo> European-African: emerge is from Gentoo
[18:14] <cdecarlo> European-African: read the apt man page
[18:14] <tschaka^> denon sudo apt-get update , and see if all internet sources are enabeld. actually it SHOULD be in the main repos.
[18:14] <European-African> ﻿ksbalaji: have already tried, and I swapped to a older kernal
[18:14] <PennyCostco> why cant i change the "roaming mode" into "static ip" in network properties?
[18:14] <mad_max02> Slart, where is that .bash.rc located ??
[18:15] <cygoku> The-Seiman : Rly, it is not working.
[18:15] <tschaka^> European-African "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[18:15] <blue_wolf> hello
[18:15] <European-African> ok thanks
[18:15] <denon> tschaka^: good thought .. updating now
[18:15] <graft> has anyone had issues with firefox not doing name resolution at all?
[18:15] <The-Seiman> cygoku: lspci | grep wlan to be sure
[18:15] <blue_wolf> hoe do i add hebrew to the  keyboard settings
[18:15] <blue_wolf> ?
[18:15] <blue_wolf> *how
[18:16] <graft> my firefox will only browse pages via IP address
[18:16] <cygoku> The-Seiman : Be sure of what ?
[18:16] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: when I try that it says that it failed to connect to server?
[18:16] <Slart> mad_max02: in your home folder.. it's hidden.. (dot means hidden in linux)
[18:16] <cygoku> The-Seiman : 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01)
[18:16] <denon> tschaka^: heh, update did it . .for some reason I was just assuming the stock cache would have most of it
[18:16] <richcollins> Is anyone here using postgresql 8.3 on hardy?  It doesn't appear that initdb was installed with it
[18:16] <The-Seiman> cygoku: well you have the same card as mine
[18:16] <ksbalaji> yell0w, thanks! no choice maybe. I tried. Even then audacity in Hardy is of no use.
[18:16] <blue_wolf> what is the default password for su ?
[18:16] <tschaka^> denon nice :)
[18:17] <PennyCostco> why cant i change the "roaming mode" into "static ip" in network properties??
[18:17] <denon> tschaka^: of course .. it installed, but wont start
[18:17] <denon> tschaka^: guessing I need to get my config on first
[18:17] <mad_max02> Slart, there is no such file. Not even hidden one.
[18:17] <The-Seiman> cygoku: on my acer laptop, i've installer acer_acpi to power on the wifi card
[18:17] <tschaka^> denon prolly. may u wanna try udhcpd, the package says "very small DHCP server"
[18:17] <European-African> ﻿﻿tschaka^: when I try that it says that it failed to connect to server? how do I change the server it updates from? sofware sources is not working for me.
[18:17] <lgc> Hello. How can I change the default application (for example of Java, the browser, etc.)? Thanks.
[18:18] <The-Seiman> cygoku: so I think you must search something similar for your dell laptop
[18:18] <cygoku> The-Seiman : To power on ?
[18:18] <denon> tschaka^: nah, I like ISC DHCPD
[18:18] <frosty> nvm, i think i found the solution.
[18:18] <frosty> thx
[18:18] <Guest23014> i'm in fluxbox.  what's the command-line name for the disk usage app? (i'm not talking about df-m, i'm talking GUI app)
[18:18] <tschaka^> European-African did they work before at any time? what says "sudo apt-get update"?
[18:18] <PennyCostco> Guest23014: df
[18:18] <graft> !root > blue_wolf
[18:18] <FluxD> Hi, Does the instructions to upgrade the server edition work on desktop edition?
[18:18] <denon> tschaka^: besides, I know it can handle a few hundred users without an issue .. which is what it needs to do here
[18:18] <loz> Hey guys..When I run "dpkg --configure -a" I get:
[18:18] <loz> gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[18:18] <loz> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-18-generic
[18:18] <loz> dpkg: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[18:18] <tschaka^> denon, ok gl there. guess there will be a few tutorials on google around :)
[18:18] <enos> for some odd reason my screen is extremely bright. can anyone help me configure ubuntu 8, I don't think xorg.cof is correct, I've looked at it but can't figure the solution.
[18:18] <The-Seiman> cygoku: well, without the acer_acpi, the wifi card is off
[18:18] <Slart> mad_max02: what happens if you write this in a terminal, "gedit ~/.bashrc"  , you get an empty gedit window?
[18:18] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: yes it worked before
[18:18] <denon> tschaka^: nah, I know how to config it ..
[18:18] <richcollins> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy-updates/main openssl-blacklist 0.1-0ubuntu0.8.04.1
[18:19] <graft> loz: your disk is full. delete some stuff
[18:19] <tschaka^> denon good :) good luck with it then and have fun :)
[18:19] <loz> on /boot ?
[18:19] <cygoku> The-Seiman : This is getting more than troublesome.
[18:19] <denon> tschaka^: so what's the "ubuntu way" to start this stuff? /etc/init.d/dhcpd start ?
[18:19] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: ﻿"sudo apt-get update" says that it can't connect to the server!
[18:19] <lgc> Flannel, you there?
[18:19] <graft> loz: apparently. df -h to see how much you're using
[18:19] <FluxD> graft, I got same error, how do u delete stuff in apt cache
[18:19] <loz> ok
[18:19] <mad_max02> Slart, yeah
[18:19] <The-Seiman> cygoku: acer = power management ;)
[18:19] <graft> FluxD: apt-get clean
[18:19] <richcollins> ah --fix-misisng
[18:19] <The-Seiman> cygoku: i meant acpi
[18:19] <The-Seiman> cygoku: not acer
[18:19] <tschaka^> European-African are you using local sources, or the main "us" ones?
[18:19] <Slart> mad_max02: what are you running? ubuntu?
[18:19] <loz> 94% on boot
[18:19] <shepherd> wifi question:  i have a toshiba satellite labtop.  i installed madwifi and it saw local wifi spots.  i can see my personal wifi connection but i can not connect.. i have the strength bars in my tool bar and it says i'm connected then asks me for my key i enter it but it wont take.  my mac adress is in the router.  plz hlp
[18:20] <tschaka^> denon prolly. should be already running, at least on startup i guess. dunno exaclty tho.
[18:20] <cygoku> The-Seiman : I wonder how they do it at DELL with their DELLBUNTU.
[18:20] <loz> should i resize it or clear it?
[18:20] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: local.
[18:20] <tschaka^> denon sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start
[18:20] <FluxD> graft, another error I got was /proc/event was not found while trying to get k/ubuntu-desktop on 8.04 server any idea on how to fix that?
[18:20] <mad_max02> Slart, ubuntu now yes
[18:20] <Ironeye> Hello everyone, I just updated to 8.04 and nothing is working right. So i want to return to the previous version, however when it trys to install it say it cant find my cd drive! even though it works now :|
[18:20] <linuxkrn> does hardy support wpa2?  I see wpa, but don't know if that's just 1 or 1 and 2
[18:20] <denon> tschaka^: k, wondered if there was any special tools I should know about in ubuntu
[18:20] <denon> tschaka^: thanks for your help, much appreciated
[18:21] <tschaka^> denon no problem :)
[18:21] <tschaka^> European-African try to activate the us ones in your Software sources dialog and try again.
[18:21] <tschaka^> European-African System-> administration> software sources, if you got Gnome running.
[18:21] <graft> loz: i dunno, whatever you want. my guess is you have a whole lot of outdated kernel images there?
[18:21] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: ﻿Software sources dialog does not work! like spm.
[18:22] <PennyCostco> why cant i change the "roaming mode" into "static ip" in network properties? (ubuntu)
[18:22] <croxis> hey guys.  I am able to get clients to connect to my openvpn server (hardy server, bridged) but they can't ping each other. I know it is an iptables thing but I have no idea where to even start with that.  Any suggestions?
[18:22] <graft> FluxD: nope, no idea on that, sorry
[18:22] <Guest23014> PennyCostco: baobab
[18:22] <tschaka^> European-African give me some seconds, i'll check something out.
[18:22] <shepherd> wifi question:  i have a toshiba satellite labtop.  i installed madwifi and it saw local wifi spots.  i can see my personal wifi connection but i can not connect.. i have the strength bars in my tool bar and it says i'm connected then asks me for my key i enter it but it wont take.  my mac adress is in the router.  plz hlp
[18:22] <FluxD> graft, is this files upposed to exist on hardy  /proc/acpi/event ?
[18:22] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: ok]
[18:22] <cygoku> Freaking getting on my nerves.
[18:22] <gorg> i am using Kopete, and wish to turn of who is joining and away
[18:23] <Slart> mad_max02: can you pastebin the output from this command? ls -la ~/ | grep -ie "\..*"
[18:23] <graft> FluxD: i guess, if acpi is working and generates events
[18:23] <Slart> !paste | mad_max02
[18:23] <shepherd> what is the difference between a passphrase and a key?
[18:23] <mrooney> hello, I installed kubuntu-kde4-desktop, and naturally it installed all the deps, but now if I remove it, it just removes the meta package, how can I undo the entire process?
[18:23] <graft> gorg: try #kubuntu or #kde
[18:23] <derspankster> yell0w, thanks for the wireless tip - got it reconnected
[18:23] <Slart> mad_max02: it should just be a list of files in your home folder starting with a dot
[18:23] <FluxD> graft, is acpi needed or is there any way to not use it?
[18:23] <graft> gorg: or #kopete even
[18:23] <gorg> ok, thanks
[18:23] <loz> graft is it ok to clear everything or older versions of the same thing
[18:23] <Slart> mad_max02: you can edit out any sensitive filesnames if you want to..
[18:23] <graft> FluxD: erm. acpi is usually nice to have... lets you suspend and stuff like that
[18:24] <loz> i obvously wont clear grub
[18:24] <FluxD> graft, this is a remote server in another dc I control using ssh
[18:24] <loz> what about lost+found
[18:24] <mad_max02> Slart, there is no bashrc file. I know its hidden but there aint one.
[18:24] <graft> loz: usually you're okay just keeping the kernel you're using... i try to keep one older kernel that i know worked well in case i ever need to roll back to it
[18:24] <tschaka^> European-African type into terminal: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list , replace the local thingy in the URLs with "us" (like move "de" out and put "us" in) and save by pressing ctrl+o. be sure to do a backup before. then again run "sudo apt-get update" should actually work then.
[18:24] <loz> ok thanks
[18:24] <graft> loz: don't delete stuff by hand, use apt to remove old kernels
[18:24] <Ironeye> ﻿I just updated to 8.04 and nothing is working right. So i want to return to the previous version, however when it trys to install it says it cant find my cd drive!
[18:24] <polygon89> Hello, i had to compile a newer version of MadWiFi in order for my wireless on my new laptop to work, but now every time i suspnd i think i get a kernel panic. Where should i report this?
[18:24] <ksbalaji> tschaka^, European-African , how to fall back to audacity old version when rep.does not support?
[18:25] <loz> thanks
[18:25] <shepherd> wifi question:  i have a toshiba satellite labtop.  i installed madwifi and it saw local wifi spots.  i can see my personal wifi connection but i can not connect.. i have the strength bars in my tool bar and it says i'm connected then asks me for my key i enter it but it wont take.  my mac adress is in the router.  plz hlp
[18:25] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: ok will do, hold on
[18:25] <raidoh> anyone can help me?
[18:25] <Slart> mad_max02: is there a file called .profile ?
[18:26] <mad_max02> Slart, not in my home folder no
[18:26] <tschaka^> ksbalaji try to find older deb packages on the web.
[18:26] <Slart> mad_max02: any files at all in your home folder?
[18:26] <The-Seiman> cygoku: in your case, renable the bcm43xx drivers ... : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_Dell_Inspiron_6400#Wireless_Setup
[18:26] <mad_max02> Slart, lol :D yeah a lot
[18:26] <fooks> whats the command for gnome services?
[18:26] <lgc> I wonder if someone else experiences the same problem: Every once-in-a-while my wireless link gets killed, and restarting the network or doing 'dhclient eth1' won't do. When I open up the nm-applet and check the configuration, I notice that some very long string has taken the place of the wireless modem. Once I write the correct password again I get the wireless link back. This must be a very simple to solve issue, though the WHY this password is changed is qui
[18:26] <lgc> te puzzling. Any clues?
[18:26] <cygoku> The-Seiman : bcm43xx is blacklisted, it is using b43.
[18:26] <fooks> id like to get them to start on fluxbox startup
[18:27] <Slart> mad_max02: is this a new install? regular vanilla ubuntu hardy?
[18:27] <c_lisp> fooks gdm
[18:27] <loz> graft, apt-get remove and the package manager don't work
[18:27] <cicci_> someone can help me with ati configuration under mint?
[18:27] <mad_max02> Slart, Ubuntu 8.04 amd64
[18:27] <The-Seiman> cygoku: then remove the blacklist line and enable it with modconf ;)
[18:27] <mad_max02> I had that install before I tried kubuntu and everything worked
[18:27] <graft> loz: uh? oh, because you have no space?
[18:27] <PennyCostco> why cant i change the "roaming mode" into "static ip" in network properties? (ubuntu)
[18:27] <loz> yes
[18:27] <xuander> hello
[18:27] <Slart> cicci_: this channel is for ubuntu support.. check the mint site for support
[18:27] <Quis> Does anyone know how I can give my clock a kick in his ass ?
[18:27] <grigris> hi
[18:27] <graft> loz: but you only don't have space on /boot...
[18:27] <Quis> The clock just stopped
[18:27] <cygoku> The-Seiman : mod-conf ?
[18:28] <loz> correct
[18:28] <graft> loz: and 94% isn't that full
[18:28] <lgc> fooks, gnome-commander is what you want?
[18:28] <graft> loz: well, it should work fine for removing stuff...?
[18:28] <The-Seiman> cygoku: modconf, not mod-conf
[18:28] <vic1ous> Hey Guys, how do i kill xserver to install the latest nvidia driver
[18:28] <Slart> mad_max02: extremely weird..
[18:28] <graft> loz: anyway, even if it doesn't, you can use dpkg -r <name of package>
[18:28] <fooks> lgc, i'd just like all the cool stuff that auto pops up and themes and such to be as exact under fluxbox
[18:28] <Ironeye> ﻿I just updated to 8.04 and nothing is working right. So i want to return to the previous version, however when it trys to install it say it cant find my cd drive! even though it works now :|
[18:28] <ksbalaji> European-African, I feel that the entire panel does not work properly in your case. Did you try something else?
[18:28] <fooks> it would make fluxbox perfect
[18:28] <c_lisp> vic1ou ctlr+alt+backspace
[18:28] <loz> i have to do a  dpkg -configure and that doesnt owrk
[18:28] <loz> *work
[18:28] <c_lisp> or just log outt
[18:28] <vic1ous> c_lisp that just takes me to login
[18:28] <yell0w> derspankster: np
[18:29] <lgc> fooks, I'm not sure I understand you...
[18:29] <c_lisp> it kills the xserver
[18:29] <PennyCostco> why wont ubuntu respond sometimes when I click the shutdown button on top right corner?
[18:29] <Slart> vic1ous: ctrl+f1 to get a shell.. sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop to stop the x server.. install nvidia driver and possibly do sudo /etc/init.d/gdfm start to get back in
[18:29] <c_lisp> and restarts it sitll vic1ous
[18:29] <cygoku> The-Seiman : Not even installed.
[18:29] <graft> loz: you ought to be able to do dpkg -r without doing dpkg --configure first, i think
[18:29] <The-Seiman> cygoku: go to kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx
[18:29] <lgc> fooks, (I meant gnome-control-center, not gnome-commander. Sorry.)
[18:29] <The-Seiman> cygoku: then install it ;)
[18:29] <Slart> vic1ous: or install the driver using the restricted drivers thingy and just point, click, restart
[18:29] <mad_max02> Slart, I found the problem. File is located in /etc/bash.bashrc
[18:29] <fooks> lgc, i think thats it
[18:29] <mad_max02> Slart, I gotta log out to use it
[18:29] <Slart> mad_max02: that's the big, system wide file.. there should be one in your home folder too
[18:30] <European-African> ﻿ksbalaji: it is not the entire panel, just the tools tha when you try to open them have this prestartup box that says 'starting adminstration tool'
[18:30] <Ironeye> my cd drive sometimes does not respond. could it be clashing with ubuntu?
[18:30] <reenignEesreveR> i am a noob and im preparing a live machine ... its asking me hostname ... does hostname's format etc matter or should i put anything in it i like?
[18:31] <European-African> ﻿ksbalaji: no I worked it out! my sudo is not working at all!
[18:31] <lgc> Ironeye, CD drives are sometimes unwieldy and fail often. Nothing to do with Ubuntu. IMO.
[18:31] <c_lisp>  
[18:31] <cygoku> The-Seiman : Then what ?
[18:31] <Slart> reenignEesreveR: anything you like.. avoid weird characters
[18:31] <cygoku> The-Seiman : it's asking for command-line argumentss ?
[18:31] <otake1234> hey guys I have a tough server question, is this the right place to ask it?
[18:31] <The-Seiman> cygoku: no
[18:31] <Slart> reenignEesreveR: there is probable some kind of limit on how long it can be
[18:32] <enos> for some odd reason my screen is extremely bright. can anyone help me configure ubuntu 8, I don't think xorg.cof is correct, I've looked at it but can't figure the solution.
[18:32] <The-Seiman> cygoku: it's a simplified ncurses program ;)
[18:32] <tschaka^> European-African did anything work?
[18:32] <Ironeye> igc: any ideas for a fix?
[18:32] <reenignEesreveR> does it affect apache's naming scheme etc?
[18:32] <The-Seiman> cygoku: go to kernel/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx
[18:32] <Slart> otake1234: ask and find out.. you can try the #linux channel too.. but do your homework first
[18:32] <cygoku> The-Seiman : It says it's deprecated and does not work.
[18:32] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: I worked out what is wrong. my sudo does not work at all!
[18:32] <yotsu> hey how do I view my partition map?
[18:32] <yotsu> in fdisk?
[18:32] <The-Seiman> cygoku: hmm
[18:33] <The-Seiman> cygoku: you probably have to install ncurses
[18:33] <PennyCostco> yotsu: m
[18:33] <Slart> yotsu: gnome partition editor.. in the system menu
[18:33] <cygoku> Installation failed.
[18:33] <tschaka^> European-African ah ok. what happens when u type sudo in console?
[18:33] <Slart> yotsu: oh.. sorry.. in fdisk.. I have no idea
[18:33] <The-Seiman> cygoku: if it's not that, your distro is wrong
[18:33] <KRaZy_WaKa> how do i put my trash bin on the desktop instead of the panel?
[18:33] <mad_max02> Slart, works great. Just uncommented a line in /etc/bash.bashrc
[18:33] <reenignEesreveR> does my hostname have to resolve on internet as well?
[18:33] <ksbalaji> European-African, Just as I guessed. I had the same problem. I restarted with recovery. It helped.
[18:33] <otake1234> Slart, i have done my homework.  its a question of storage.  I am trying to load 48 500 GB hard drives into one instance of ubuntu.  its actually 24 striped sets.  I'm running into what seems klike random issues and am wondering if there is a limit i am not aware of
[18:33] <cygoku> The-Seiman, distro is wrong ? wtf hardy heron 8.04.1
[18:33] <European-African> ant@AMD-64:~$ sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:33] <European-African> sudo: unable to resolve host AMD-64
[18:33] <European-African> ant@AMD-64:~$
[18:34] <Slart> KRaZy_WaKa: start gconf-editor in a terminal, go to apps, nautilus ... look for desktop stuff.. it's in there somewhere
[18:34] <European-African> sorry
[18:34] <Ironeye> How do i update my cd drive?
[18:34] <KRaZy_WaKa> thanx slart
[18:34] <otake1234> i have 2 3ware raid controllers, fully supported.
[18:34] <European-African> ﻿ksbalaji: that is what happens
[18:34] <tschaka^> European-African are u on an ssh machine?
[18:34] <yotsu> I just need to know that (hd0,?) my vista partition is
[18:34] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: you mean is it a ssh server?
[18:34] <yotsu> is there a possible way?
[18:34] <Slart> otake1234: it was just meant as a warning if you decided to go to #linux.. those guys can be pretty mean if you ask questions without googling and such first =)
[18:34] <loz> graft i have errors removing the -16 image because other -16 modules depend on it
[18:35] <The-Seiman> cygoku: you have tried nothing critical ? like failed module or kernel build
[18:35] <graft> loz: what kernel do you want to use?
[18:35] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: it is the ubuntu hardy destop.
[18:35] <tschaka^> European-African are you on your local machine, or are you logged on some machine via ssh or something?
[18:35] <cygoku> No, this is my laptop for working, I will not start to do that.
[18:35] <c_lisp> yotsub in grub type find /boot/grub/stage1
[18:35] <otake1234> has anyone here done that?  24 5000 GB striped sets on 2 threeware controllers?
[18:35] <audela> Hello, do anyone know which package is needed to uncompress .sit files ?
[18:35] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: local.
[18:35] <otake1234> 500 GB i mean.
[18:35] <PennyCostco> i click on my "wired network connection" and do settings, because I want to set my own static ip in my LAN, but when I do so network doesnt work at all.. how come?
[18:35] <mad_max02> Slart, can I successfully remove evolution without any problems ??
[18:35] <Slart> otake1234: wow.. that's a lot of hard drives.. I really don't know.. I've never done more than 6 drives I think
[18:35] <Slart> mad_max02: afaik, yes
[18:35] <graft> loz: you can probably remove those modules first... also once you've removed one or two you might check to see if you hvae enough space to work via apt-get again
[18:35] <tschaka^> European-African why it would say sudo: unable to resolve host AMD-64 then? ;)
[18:35] <loz> 2.6.24-18
[18:36] <tschaka^> European-African wait, i'll google a bit
[18:36] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: ok
[18:36] <otake1234> Slart, i know its crazy.  i can successfully load  22 striped sets.  i really wish i had zfs.
[18:36] <mad_max02> Slart, just by removing packet in synaptics ?
[18:36] <mblondin> Hi, i've seen a lot of posts on launchpad saying to add "clocksource=hpet" in grub.lst to speed up the boot time, but I can't figure what this line does. Anyone can explain me what this line changes ?
[18:36] <erdem_> hi
[18:36] <Slart> tschaka^: open the file /etc/hosts .. check if there is some kind of domain name after the local computer name.. if so, you can remove it
[18:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> Slart: how do i save it or does it automatically save when i close gconf?
[18:37] <Slart> tschaka^: just remove the domain stuff... ie   mycomputer.localdomain  --> mycomputer
[18:37] <tschaka^> European-African http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=771649
[18:37] <Slart> KRaZy_WaKa: it's saved when you change it
[18:37] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok
[18:37] <erdem_> hi
[18:37] <Slart> mad_max02: yes.. just click "remove" in synaptic
[18:37] <Mezo> elo
[18:38] <erdem_> türkçe bilen varmı?
[18:38] <tschaka^> Slart yeah, found some thread, plus European-African is experiencing this problem, but thanx tho :)
[18:38] <Slart> tschaka^: you're welcome =).. just figured you'd pass it on =)
[18:38] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: thanks
[18:38] <Slart> !tu | erdem_
[18:38] <KRaZy_WaKa> ok i checked the check box for trash visible but its not there
[18:38] <ksbalaji> tschaka^, Mine is also a sovereign standalone desktop! It told that one of my hosts could not be resolved. I have two login user IDs though.
[18:38] <Slart> !turkey | erdem_
[18:39] <The-Seiman> cygoku: what does modconf say to you ?
[18:39] <tschaka^> ok.
[18:39] <erdem_> ama nasıl yapacağımı bilmiyorum yardımcı olurmusunuz
[18:39] <Slart> KRaZy_WaKa: sure? what key did you change?
[18:39] <PennyCostco> does anyone know how to set static ip in ubuntu?
[18:39] <Mezo> n=misiek@78.133.212.160
[18:39] <Slart> erdem_: this channel is english only
[18:39] <loz> thanks graft that i removed the image after the ubuntu and restricted modules now theres enough space :)
[18:40] <mblondin> ﻿Hi, i've seen a lot of posts on launchpad saying to add "clocksource=hpet" in grub.lst to speed up the boot time, but I can't figure what this line does. Anyone can explain me what this line changes ?
[18:40] <tschaka^> erdem_ join #ubuntu-tr
[18:40] <KRaZy_WaKa> Slart: went to apps > nautilus > desktop and marked the checkbox next to trash_icon_visible
[18:40] <Slart> KRaZy_WaKa: /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible ?
[18:40] <erdem_> ya türkçekanala nasıl geçeceğimi  bilmiyorum
[18:40] <unavailable> pennycostco near your name in the top bar you should see a network icon, click it and select manual config   unlock the  dialog that pops up select your wired network and change the preferences to static
[18:40] <Slart> KRaZy_WaKa: works for me.. when I enable that checkbox my trash bin show up..
[18:40] <Slart> KRaZy_WaKa: you didn't run gconf-editor with sudo, did you?
[18:41] <KRaZy_WaKa> yes i did
[18:41] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: it has the ip of 127.0.0.1 and my ip is different. do I put my ip?
[18:41] <KRaZy_WaKa> was i not supposed to?
[18:41] <erdem_> slart help plase
[18:41] <Slart> KRaZy_WaKa: don't =).. then you change the settings for the root user
[18:41] <Slart> KRaZy_WaKa: just run it as yourself
[18:41] <KRaZy_WaKa> Slart: lol ok thanx
[18:41] <PennyCostco> unavailable: I did exactly that, but I lost all my internet connection as a result.. when I bring back the "roaming mode" it works, otherwise it doesnt
[18:41] <Slart> erdem_: I don't speak turkish.. but type /join #ubuntu-tr
[18:41] <unavailable> go to your router, note the dns server ip's
[18:41] <Slart> KRaZy_WaKa: you're welcome
[18:42] <mad_max02> anyone using gnome applets in 64bit ubuntu ??
[18:42] <tschaka^> European-African 127.0.0.1 is your localhost ip. put 127.0.0.1 in there, it should work.
[18:42] <unavailable> in the dns tab of that dialog set them up there
[18:42] <erdem_> how
[18:42] <KRaZy_WaKa> Slart: that worked thanx
[18:42] <terbeaux> hello everybody. this is one of those annoying questions about how to do something with limited resources. i would like to make an install image that i can dd onto a usb flash drive.
[18:43] <unavailable> Pennycostco i had problems with that too until i set up my dns to match whats on the router
[18:43] <terbeaux> i found the excellent instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[18:43] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: localhost being on my pc, not the ip of the dns server of the network right?
[18:43] <tschaka^> erdem_ type "/join #ubuntu-tr"
[18:43] <terbeaux> however the host system doesn't have usb
[18:43] <erdem_> how #ubuntu-tr joined
[18:43] <tschaka^> European-African right. 127.0.0.1 should do it.
[18:43] <tschaka^> erdem_ /join #ubuntu-tr
[18:43] <erdem_> how
[18:43] <tschaka^> type it in the line where u write.
[18:44] <tschaka^> or right click on #ubuntu-tr
[18:44] <PrograCEZ> I am trying to compile something but I get this error: match.c:28:20: error: stdlib.h: File or directory not found.  What should I install? I have gcc installed
[18:44] <unavailable> wish that would work with #linksys
[18:44] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: there is this line already; "127.0.0.1 localhost"
[18:44] <PennyCostco> unavailable: I also have this problem... sometimes the shutdown button on the top right corner, it just doesnt respond, and it locks up all taskbar
[18:44] <suncydu> Sound problem! Can someone help get my sound back. The speaker icon on the systray is gone, and I have NO sound. Please help:-)
[18:44] <pub> when i do ls in a directory, i see files and the same file name with a ~ afterward, does that mean they are still open somewhere
[18:44] <KRaZy_WaKa> anyone know how i could make the main menu button bigger?
[18:45] <Slart> PrograCEZ: sudo apt-get build-essential
[18:45] <Slart> PrograCEZ: might fix that for you
[18:45] <tschaka^> European-African replace localhost with "AMD-64"
[18:45] <unavailable> PennyCostco i have no clue on that one
[18:45] <PrograCEZ> thx Slart
[18:45] <tschaka^> European-African i guess this will fix the problem.
[18:45] <PennyCostco> unavailable: ok thanks anyway
[18:45] <Slart> KRaZy_WaKa: tried making the panel bigger? don't know if it resizes
[18:45] <maxxism> can anyone suggest a good gmail notifier app for ubuntu?  something minimal dock icon kinda like...
[18:45] <unavailable> PennyCostco tell me your luck with that static though
[18:46] <PennyCostco> unavailable: ok
[18:46] <Slart> maxxism: screenlets have a gmail checker
[18:46] <KRaZy_WaKa> Slart: trying to make it wider so i dont have just the little ubuntu logo to click on to bring up menu
[18:46] <Slart> maxxism: and lots of other small shiny things
[18:46] <tschaka^> maxxism gmail-notify
[18:46] <Miesco> Okay I figured out why my audio takes like 3 seconds to start.
[18:46] <maxxism> Slart screenlets?  i check it.
[18:46] <Miesco> AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused
[18:46] <Miesco> AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
[18:46] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: yeeeeees! it works, thank YOU!
[18:46] <Miesco> What is this pulseaudio?
[18:46] <tschaka^> European-African no problem :)
[18:47] <KRaZy_WaKa> Slart: most all the other panel options have a preferences if you right click on them and it allows you to make them wider
[18:47] <Slart> !pulseaudio
[18:47] <Miesco> thanks
[18:47] <Slart> KRaZy_WaKa: but not the main menu.. I just noticed
[18:47] <unavailable> can anyone give me a tut for setting up evolution to check my free yahoo mail  <<64 bit here
[18:47] <tschaka^> European-African remember, "sudo apt-get upgrade" for terminal upgrading. but i guess u wont need it anymore now :p
[18:47] <mblondin> ﻿Hi, i've seen a lot of posts on launchpad saying to add "clocksource=hpet" in grub.lst to speed up the boot time, but I can't figure what this line does. Anyone can explain me what this line changes ?
[18:48] <unavailable> Slart do you use the weather thingy in screenlets?
[18:48] <Slart> mblondin: I think hpet is some kind of high performance timer thing.. afaik windows uses it for media playback and such
[18:48] <reenignEesreveR> is ubuntu's repository down?
[18:48] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: ya I will just use the update manager! thanks anyway
[18:48] <mblondin> Would it decreases the computer performances ?
[18:49] <Sexygurl> I tried to load the Live CD but after it got past the loading bar with the Ubuntu logo it took me to a screen running BusyBox or w/e... what is this?
[18:49] <mblondin> Or it is only used at boot time ?
[18:49] <unavailable> reenignEesreveR i just did an update so i would suppose not
[18:49] <Slart> unavailable: nope.. I've got a window instead.. updates better and even works when the computer isn't running ;)
[18:49] <unavailable> lol
[18:49] <Slart> mblondin: I don't really know what it does.. tried googling for it?
[18:49] <mblondin> Yes
[18:49] <maxxism> tschaka^ gmail-notify is perfect thanx.
[18:50] <mblondin> Only thing I can find is people saying to add the line
[18:50] <ksbalaji> tschaka^, great work! bye!
[18:50] <tschaka^> maxxism no problem have fun :)
[18:50] <unavailable> Slart  well i do and i noticed i had to go into the code and redo the url it checks,  had to remove some affilite crap from it
[18:50] <European-African> ﻿﻿tschaka^: also I am going to stick with the main servers, the SA servers seem to be out of date? and ubuntu comes from SA!?! :)
[18:50] <tschaka^> ksbalaji cu.
[18:50] <mblondin> But nobody explains why
[18:50] <kr0nus> did anybody else's morning update to firefox3 RC2 break it completely?
[18:50] <tschaka^> European-African SA? :)
[18:50] <Slart> unavailable: hmm.. most annoying
[18:50] <European-African> ﻿ tschaka^: South africa.
[18:50] <unavailable> kr0nus nope mine works fine
[18:50] <mblondin> kr0nus: not here
[18:50] <kr0nus> dang
[18:51] <kr0nus> my location bar is... gone
[18:51] <Slart> mblondin: first hit from googling for "hpet".. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Precision_Event_Timer
[18:51] <kr0nus> and without it the browser is sort of useless
[18:51] <tschaka^> European-African i see. i dont know if they are out of that, could be, but would be strange. stick to US for being sure to have the latest stuff anyway :)
[18:51] <unavailable> kr0nus must be your just the lucky one who gets to learn how to fix it
[18:51] <mblondin> Slart: yup, but it dont explain what it changes if I add the line in grub.lst ..
[18:51] <kr0nus> hooray
[18:51] <tschaka^> European-African "that"  should have been "date"  :P
[18:51] <Slart> kr0nus: no problems here.. well.. it killed a plugin.. but it still works
[18:52] <unavailable> slart flash getter?
[18:52] <European-African> ﻿﻿tschaka^: :-D
[18:53] <unavailable> killed mine too
[18:53] <KRaZy_WaKa> has firefox3 rc2 hit the official ubuntu repos? i added http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu in my sources to get the firefox updates sooner but if they are in official repos now i will ditch the launchpad source
[18:53] <unavailable> man those #dd-wrt guys really dont like to talk much
[18:53] <fooks> how do you edit the gnome-settings-daemon?
[18:53] <Slart> unavailable: nope.. a user agent editor thingy..
[18:53] <Flannel> KRaZy_WaKa: No, not yet.  RC1 has though
[18:54] <Miesco> ubuntu wants me to use pulseaudio?
[18:54] <unavailable> i asked my ques like 3 hrs ago, and got my answer like 20 mins ago
[18:54] <Yulo> hi to all
[18:54] <unavailable> then they have the balls to say "it is silly posting your ques more than once"
[18:54] <KRaZy_WaKa> unavailable: patience is a virtue
[18:54] <fooks> unavailable, theres 1361 people in this channel, haha
[18:55] <rsk> =)
[18:55] <Flannel> unavailable: #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chatter, thanks.
[18:55] <unavailable> fooks and 65 in #dd-wrt
[18:55] <Yulo> chanel lds in spanish please?
[18:55] <Flannel> !es | Yulo
[18:55] <KRaZy_WaKa> Flannel: how long do you think til RC2 hits the official repos?
[18:56] <qubex-kde> Hej
[18:56] <KRaZy_WaKa> Flannel: and thanx for letting me know about RC1 being in the repos
[18:56] <Yulo> Flannel: Ok, gracias
[18:56] <dkerschner> I'd like to grep for files that contain one pattern but do not contain another
[18:56] <Yulo> pero seguiré un rato aquí copuchando
[18:56] <dkerschner> how can i do that?
[18:56] <unavailable> Flannel im still trying to get support,  my dhcp is out wont give my client bridge wired box an ip, but it will give 2 wifi laptops and a wired ip's
[18:56] <Slart> !dk | qubex-kde
[18:56] <Flannel> KRaZy_WaKa: Depends on how well it does bug-wise.  Assuming final comes out soon, final should be in before 8.04.1 (which is tentatively July 3)
[18:57] <terbeaux> dkerschner: find . -exec grep pattern {} \; | grep -n otherpattern
[18:57] <Slart> dkerschner: two greps.. one to include the pattern.. one that matches the lines that doesn't match the pattern.. there's a switch for it
[18:57] <terbeaux> ahh he's gone. good that's not right.
[18:57] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: I was just wondering, I changed '127.0.0.1 localhost' to ﻿﻿﻿﻿'127.0.0.1 AMD-64', do you think I should have both lines?
[18:57] <Miesco> ubuntu-desktop depends on pulseaudio
[18:58] <gorg> where to go if i want to find software (translator)?
[18:58] <KRaZy_WaKa> Flannel: ok kewl thanx again... gonna drop the launchpad repo then lol, i get an xulrunner update like every couple days and it cant be autheticated
[18:58] <Slart> Miesco: ubuntu uses pulseaudio by default
[18:58] <unavailable> European-African  just noticed your machine name mirriors mine
[18:58] <unavailable> lol
[18:58] <tschaka^> European-African i dont know, but i dont think so. try "ping localhost", if this gives you pongs, everything is ok
[18:58] <Slart> gorg: google for a free one that's a little better than horrible
[18:58] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: ok
[18:59] <Slart> gorg: I don't think there are any apps that can translate text better
[18:59] <tschaka^> European-African tho i checked my /etc/hosts/ and there the localhost line is included. so it cant be wrong.
[19:00] <alp_> hi
[19:00] <European-African> ﻿unavailable: I always like a machine name that tells me what the machine is, instead of just adam or something!
[19:00] <gorg> Slart: oki - well i have one application in windows called Clue, but don't know if it works in linux
[19:00] <failure> anybody fairly versed with setting up CVS servers?
[19:00] <neurobuntu> gorg, I've only used online translation tools
[19:00] <Miesco> !alsa
[19:01] <failure> !cvs
[19:01] <pub> !players
[19:01] <gorg> hi neurobuntu! :)
[19:01] <Slart> gorg: checked the application database? appdb.winehq.org
[19:01] <Miesco> Why do I need pulseaudio, what does it do for me
[19:01] <Slart> gorg: you might be able to run it with wine
[19:01] <European-African> ﻿tschaka^: ok thanks again!
[19:01] <conrad_> how do i set the "search" button on my logitech mouse *not* to open beagle or tracker search tool
[19:01] <conrad_> ?
[19:01] <Jrz> hi
[19:02] <archimedes> Miesco, i hear ya dude, wish i knew how to use it
[19:02] <gorg> i'll check appdb.winehq.org
[19:02] <gorg> thanks
[19:02] <Jrz> I'm installing 8.04 on my laptop (on my desktop I needed to install the ati drivers first)
[19:02] <Slart> Miesco: handles sound from many apps at the same time.. skype while playing mp3s and gaming at the same time.. individual volume controls for all apps and lots more
[19:02] <Jrz> however I keep getting kicked into a busybox shell.
[19:02] <ASULutzy> Sort of an odd thing that's been bugging me, why when I push the button on my laptop to turn the touchpad on (it only does it when I toggle it on, not off) it opens the Ubuntu help center...
[19:02] <HELLFIRE> z/w restart po aktualizacji FF ubuntu
[19:02] <archimedes> Slart, how can i get it to work for amarok and teamspeak 2?
[19:02] <Slart> Miesco: install the pulseaudio tools that's available in the repos.. paman, pavucontrol, padevchooser are a few
[19:02] <dasos> i have a server program that i run using sudo, is there a way to get it to start when i boot up the computer?
[19:02] <ASULutzy> Oh, i guess I can edit that in my keyboard shortcuts huh
[19:02] <Jrz> I've tried floppy=off, noapic, irqpoll, and the ide thingy
[19:02] <Jrz> any ideas?
[19:02] <archimedes> is there somewhere i can read up on it?
[19:03] <Slart> archimedes: teamspeak doesn't do pulseadio.. I think it uses oss even
[19:03] <Jrz> I'm using wubi..  also, the last thing I see is: loop: module loaded
[19:03] <Slart> archimedes: you'll have to use aoss .. and do some other magic to make it play nice with games
[19:03] <Bodsda> hey guys, i have a bit of a prob, trying to reinstall ubuntu,.,. i have 2 hdd's that im using, sdc1 = /     sdc2 = /boot   sda1 = /home        i get grub error15    when i look at fdisk -l   /home has a boot * when it shouldnt
[19:04] <Miesco> Slart: So is alsa a sound system and pulseaudio a sound server?
[19:04] <Nickey> Hello, folks
[19:04] <Slart> Miesco: yes.. that sounds about right
[19:04] <archimedes> should i have pulse startup at login? and use aoss ts etc?
[19:04] <c_lisp> dasos put it in the rc.local folder
[19:04] <margaret> hello
[19:04] <anonlol> hey
[19:04] <Nickey> I find ubuntu a lil slower than my previous OS  - Windows XP, how come?
[19:04] <anonlol> czu u dick sucking
[19:05] <cromag> !ops anonlol
[19:05] <Slart> archimedes: I'm not really sure.. I haven't messed with aoss since I got pulseaudio
[19:05] <conrad_> how do i set the "search" button on my logitech mouse *not* to open beagle or tracker search tool?
[19:05] <gorg> is there any hotkeys to
[19:05] <gorg> sry.
[19:05] <Slart> !ops | anonlol
[19:05] <cromag> hurray
[19:05] <gorg> is there any hotkeys to switch between different tab.. like ctrl+tab
[19:05] <dasos> c_lisp, where is that directory at? in /etc i see a bunch of rc#.d
[19:05] <gorg> sry again, wrong forum
[19:05] <anonlol> fuck
[19:06] <LogicalDash> How can I sync my Treo's contacts list with Thunderbird's?
[19:06] <Myrtti> anonlol: behave
[19:06] <anarkix> hello, anyone can help me by explanation or solution for that: i cant use my ntfs partitions from desktop , places menu, and computer folder (i can use them (read/write)from /dos directory)
[19:06] <Bodsda> test -- can anyone see me?
[19:06] <Myrtti> anonlol: we do not tolerate language like that
[19:06] <GleepGlop> How do I change which screen (2 screen setup) GDM uses?
[19:06] <Miesco> Slart: I cant connect to pulseaudio server, how do I start it up?
[19:06] <c_lisp> rc.local
[19:06] <Slart> Miesco: it should be running, afaik.. try sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio start
[19:07] <pobocks> Hello.  Does anyone know what the process is for getting software included in the non-free repo?
[19:07] <anarkix> anyone ?
[19:07] <Miesco> Slart: I think you just actually run /usr/bin/pulseaudio as a user, but it doesn't go in the background
[19:07] <Nickey> Guys, why my ubuntu is slower than windows xp, anyone?
[19:08] <alp_> i have a "special" soundcard (ice1724 chip) which isnt fully supported by default alsa drivers (i have playback, but no recording or midi capabilities). now i heard that the new version of alsa (1.0.17-rc1) fixes some of those problems. but i never did an update for a system component like that. how can i update alsa if it isnt in the package repositories?
[19:08] <c_lisp> the rc# are for scripts you want to run at different runlevels
[19:08] <Nickey> Even when opening documents or e.g. terminal it shows me an hourglass, winxp is much faster, is there anything I can do about it?
[19:08] <Miesco> mplayer says: AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Invalid argument
[19:08] <anonlol> why did i get kicked
[19:08] <carpediem> hello everyone!
[19:09] <ASULutzy> anonlol: Language
[19:09] <Slart> anonlol: language is my guess
[19:09] <anonlol> i am trying touse this os like any other white person
[19:09] <anonlol> yall
[19:09] <anonlol> racists
[19:09] <anonlol> up in ma grill
[19:09] <FloodBot1> anonlol: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <Miesco> totem says the same thing
[19:09] <ASULutzy> Now you're going to get banned lol
[19:09] <ASULutzy> Ah, I need to learn to type faster :P
[19:09] <carpediem> is this channel for ubuntu help?
[19:09] <ASULutzy> carpediem: Yes
[19:09] <failure> anybody know how to setup a CVS repo?
[19:09] <carpediem> ok:)
[19:09] <carpediem> I have a question:)
[19:09] <ASULutzy> !ask | carpediem
[19:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Nickey How much ram do you have
[19:09] <unavailable> [INFO]	You are now ignoring anonlol.
[19:09] <Nickey> Jack_Sparrow: 2GB
[19:10] <Pici> !feedthetroll
[19:10] <carpediem> I would like something like mirc for linux
[19:10] <carpediem> something that supports mirc scripts
[19:10] <carpediem> does that exist?
[19:10] <Pici> carpediem: No.
[19:10] <failure> i have one setup, however im getting an error: cvs login: auth failed: server localhost rejected access to /cvs for user bmusson
[19:10] <carpediem> i'm on xchat now...but it look so...different
[19:10] <carpediem> oh
[19:10] <rsk> carpediem: MIRc in wine.
[19:10] <Pici> carpediem: You'd have to run mirc under Wine to acheive that.
[19:10] <Nickey> Jack_Sparrow: maybe I have to uninstall KDE and use xfce?
[19:10] <anarkix> hello, anyone can help me by explanation or solution for that: i cant use my ntfs partitions from desktop , places menu, and computer folder (i can use them (read/write)from /dos directory)
[19:10] <carpediem> ok ty, i'll have to use xchat i guess
[19:10] <GleepGlop> How do I change which screen (2 screen setup) GDM uses? I use 2 x servers
[19:10] <Miesco> I'll settle this later
[19:10] <carpediem> so you guys are all on xchat?
[19:10] <Nickey> Jack_Sparrow: Gnome was the same
[19:10] <rsk> carpediem: i'm on irssi
[19:10] <ASULutzy> carpediem: I'm just using Pidgin
[19:10] <alp_> hi
[19:11] <LogicalDash> carpediem: Pidgin does fine for me
[19:11] <carpediem> it's so chaotic
[19:11] <carpediem> damn
[19:11] <carpediem> hmz
[19:11] <Slart> carpediem: you can run mirc in wine just fine.. with all your scripts and such
[19:11] <AvidChronos> I'm on xchat in windows right now >_<
[19:11] <failure> !cvs help
[19:11] <carpediem> I tried pidgin, hmz
[19:11] <maxxism> is there much of a performance difference between running the generic kernel as opposed to the 686 kernel?
[19:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Nickey It shouldnt be noticibly slower by any means.. I would look closely about things you added after the initial install
[19:11] <carpediem> ok
[19:11] <carpediem> i'll try wine
[19:11] <rsk> maxxism: none in hardy
[19:11] <FloodBot1> carpediem: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:11] <carpediem> and irssi
[19:11] <maxxism> rsk thanx
[19:11] <unavailable> if you say "can i ask a question" and i say "yes only one though"  you have already used up your question, so asking was pointless
[19:11] <carpediem> thanks guys:)
[19:11] <phantomas_> hello how can i change the permissions to all the subfolders of a folder?
[19:11] <LogicalDash> ﻿How can I setup gnome-pilot to sync Thunderbird's address book with my portable's contact list? Or perhaps setup Evolution to sync with Thunderbird?
[19:12] <ASULutzy> phantomas_:  chmod -R
[19:12] <carpediem> so you guys answer all questions huh?:)
[19:12] <wyrd> phantomas_: man find
[19:12] <w0ss4g3> carpediem: no
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> phantomas_ Be careful when you do that as you can really mess things up if you do it wrong.. What folder are you trying to do that with and why
[19:12] <carpediem> I see irssi is terminal based
[19:12] <carpediem> :s
[19:12] <Jack_Sparrow> carpediem Ubuntu support questions
[19:12] <anarkix> no, no one answer me till now
[19:12] <Nickey> Jack_Sparrow: I added nothing...no I addded wine latest only that's it, but no windows applications yet. Please help me find a complete tweaking guide for ubuntu, so I'll turn off everything i don't meed
[19:12] <carpediem> ok Jack_Sparrow:)
[19:12] <GleepGlop> anyone? GDM w/ 2 xservers?
[19:13] <ASULutzy> phantomas_, Jack_Sparrow: Yea, sorry about that, you should be careful when using chmod and chown etc
[19:13] <c_lisp> im using irssi at work right now carpediem
[19:13] <c_lisp> :P
[19:13] <tschaka^> carpediem xchat is pretty much a nice and easy to use program. there are some scripts too. get used to it and you will love it :)
[19:13] <conrad_> how do i set the "search" button on my logitech mouse *not* to open beagle or tracker search tool?
[19:13] <Nickey> Nickey: *need
[19:13] <Nickey> *Jack_Sparrow: *need
[19:13] <phantomas_> Jack_Sparrow: i want to change the permission of my ftp folder and subfolders located in /home
[19:13] <ASULutzy> conrad_: Check system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts, you can reassign most of the stuff from there
[19:13] <maxxism> liberation fonts are pretty.
[19:13] <anarkix> and guys please don't go to off topics instead of answering others
[19:14] <Slart> anarkix: what was your question?
[19:14] <jendel> test
[19:14] <anarkix> hello, anyone can help me by explanation or solution for that: i cant use my ntfs partitions from desktop , places menu, and computer folder (i can use them (read/write)from /dos directory)
[19:14] <phantomas_> Jack_Sparrow: only for me
[19:14] <carpediem> oh by the way, did any of you tried warcraft III on ubuntu?
[19:14] <Slart> anarkix: no idea.. works on my computer
[19:15] <tschaka^> anarkix got ntfs-3g installed?
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Nickey Try it before installing the latest wine..
[19:15] <anarkix> yes
[19:15] <KRaZy_WaKa> carpediem: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3126
[19:15] <Nickey> Jack_Sparrow: I remember it was the same, it's not about wine
[19:15] <KRaZy_WaKa> that is the Wine link for Warcraft III
[19:15] <tschaka^> anarkix is it mounted in /dos?
[19:15] <Jack_Sparrow> phantomas_ Cant you move then down one level to /home/$USER
[19:15] <carpediem> yes thank you KRaZy_WaKa
[19:16] <anarkix> tschaka: yes
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Nickey Not saying it is about wine, but about adding wine to your system
[19:16] <carpediem> but it tried that, and it's not connecting to battlenet
[19:16] <carpediem> but thanks:)
[19:16] <KRaZy_WaKa> carpediem: no prob
[19:16] <carpediem> i'll try it again
[19:16] <Nickey> Jack_Sparrow: ...it was the same...
[19:16] <phantomas_> Jack_Sparrow: ok... but just to know how can i do this?
[19:16] <reenignEesreveR> is us.archive.ubuntu.com working for everyone?
[19:16] <Jack_Sparrow> phantomas_ However it was setup to /home.. you can change it to whatever..
[19:16] <tschaka^> anarkix let me try something, second
[19:16] <Miesco> Where are the ubuntu sounds in the package ubuntu-sounds
[19:16] <ASULutzy> Nickey: Ubuntu doesn't really come with any "bloatware" the stuff it loads on startup is pretty much only the things you "need" there are maybe a couple daemons that you could cut, but for the most part Ubuntu is pretty snappy as it is
[19:17] <reenignEesreveR> ubuntu's repository seems down
[19:17] <Miesco> reenignEesreveR: Lots of mirrors
[19:17] <Nickey> hmm, why is it so slow then...
[19:17] <Slart> reenignEesreveR: it works if I enter the url in a browser
[19:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Nickey It isnt for the rest of us..
[19:17] <ASULutzy> reenignEesreveR: There are lots of repositories?
[19:17] <anarkix> tschaka^: ok tyt and thanks for answering me
[19:17] <failure>  I have a repository setup, but I can't seem to get into it remotely. I added myself via cvsd-passwd however it says authentication failed. I checked to see that I am included in the passwd file under CVSROOT and I am.
[19:17] <Nickey> Jack_Sparrow: what do you mean?
[19:17] <ASULutzy> reenignEesreveR: I just successfully ran apt-get update from http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:17] <LogicalDash> Nickey, what are your computer's specs like?
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Nickey for me and most users XP is lower than ubuntu
[19:18] <Jack_Sparrow> slower
[19:18] <LogicalDash> Nickey, you could switch to Xfce if you're working with a small amount of RAM
[19:18] <Jrz> ok
[19:18] <Nickey> Pentium 3GHz and 2GB
[19:18] <Nickey> *Pentium 4
[19:18] <Nickey> 3GHz
[19:18] <reenignEesreveR> if my ubuntu machine is not resolving addresses, what could be wrong?
[19:19] <m-c> Has anyone tried installing a different motherboard in a computer?  Do you think a re-installation of Ubuntu is required?
[19:19] <Nickey> Jack_Sparrow: How can that be? :(
[19:19] <ASULutzy> reenignEesreveR: Weird DNS thing?
[19:19] <frostburn> reenignEesreveR, dns, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[19:19] <sharpe_uk> reenign, could be lots of things, DNS problem is most likely
[19:19] <LogicalDash> Nickey, how about the hard drive? A slow hard drive slows everything down
[19:19] <phantomas_> Jack_Sparrow i mean how can i change the permissions of /home/<folder> to +rwx for my user
[19:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Nickey I am not here to debate...  it is a fact of life for most users.. SOme have odd hardware that isnt supported that is slowing things down  but in general it is faster
[19:19] <conrad_> ASULutzy: thanks a million, that did it!
[19:19] <reenignEesreveR> root@host# cat /etc/resolv.conf -> nameserver 20*.11*.8*.12*
[19:19] <Nickey> LogicalDash: I'm just saying winxp was faster on the same machine....
[19:19] <anarkix> btw i just need to add something, when i was on kubuntu, i used to see the irc channel for just asking and answering, and there are other room for off topics. :)
[19:20] <tschaka^> anarkix its a matter of being mounted to /dos. try to mount it to /media/xxx1 or whatever its called. the drive address u can find out by simply typing mount and see which /dev/xxx is mounted to /dos . if its mounted to /media/xxx it can be accessed from anywhere u like (desktop, side panel in nautilus and comuter)
[19:20] <ASULutzy> conrad_: No problem :)
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !chown
[19:20] <rampageoberon> reenignEesreveR: why are you using a root prompt?
[19:20] <KRaZy_WaKa> http://mirrors.ccs.neu.edu/ is ther mirror that i use for anybody having mirror problems, i get 300K dloads from them and haven't had a problem with it not being up to date
[19:20] <Nickey> Jack_Sparrow: what are the minimal specs for ubuntu?
[19:20]  * reenignEesreveR loves to be root ;)
[19:20] <rampageoberon> reenignEesreveR: you do realise root can be dangerous
[19:20] <frostburn> sudo -i gives root... reenignEesreveR that doesn't look like a valid ip
[19:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Nickey 512 ram is the sweet spot lower than that you will take a performance hit.
[19:21] <carpediem> does anyone know, how do I change my default browser from firefox to opera? I can't seem to find it....
[19:21] <anarkix> tschaka^: so i just have to change the mounting point
[19:21] <rampageoberon> reenignEesreveR: root should only be used when necessary
[19:21] <anarkix> ?
[19:21] <reenignEesreveR> rampageoberon: i screwed my machine by changing the hostname and not updating the hosts file ... now im undoing using root
[19:21] <rampageoberon> reenignEesreveR: change the ip to 208.67.222.222
[19:21] <Nickey> Jack_Sparrow: I have 2GB.... :( Isn't ubuntu tweakable? There must be things I don't need in it.
[19:21] <sharpe_uk> you can test the speed of your hard disk with 'sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda' (obviously replace sda with whatever your drive actually is)
[19:21] <sharpe_uk> on mine I get 68.34Mb/s (which suprised the hell out of me..)
[19:21] <tschaka^> anarkix yes. something in /media/  be sure that the directory where u want to mount it exists, u might want to do "sudo mkdir /media/YOURDRIVEADRESSORMOUNTPOINT" before.
[19:21] <rampageoberon> Nickey: 2GB ram is sufficient
[19:21] <LogicalDash> Nickey: How big is your swap partition?
[19:21] <rampageoberon> Nickey: or is this hard drive space?
[19:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Nickey you can always compile your own kernel, but most users end up with something slower than generic setupo
[19:22] <derspankster> Has anyone have any experience with a stardot wincam live? I had it working in Feisty then it quit and I've never been able to get it to work again. I ran it with Wine. Now, the camera can't communicate with the computer.
[19:22] <Insurrecto> Hello guys
[19:22] <tschaka^> anarkix most prolly u can do this by editing the mount point in /etc/fstab but be sure to have a backup and dont mess anything up.
[19:22] <Nickey> rampageoberon: that i know :)
[19:22] <Nickey> Nickey: 512 MB
[19:22] <Insurrecto> I have a problem burning Hardy-alternate daily release can any1 help me?
[19:22] <anarkix> tschaka^: thanks for help :).
[19:22] <Nickey> rampageoberon: there is more than 80% empty
[19:22] <coobster> hi guys
[19:22] <tschaka^> anarkix no problem :)
[19:23] <Nickey> Jack_Sparrow: I meant some other tweak with settings, services I could disable...
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Insurrecto Daily release... Why are you not using the real release
[19:23] <coobster> i was wondering if anyone can help me get my wifi card in my laptop going?
[19:23] <Insurrecto> Because everytime i use one it gives me read error md5 on package.gz
[19:23] <Phantomas> Jack_Sparrow: can you tell me how can i change the permissions of a folder in /home/ ???
[19:23] <coobster> i'am dual booting linux and vista
[19:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Nickey there are some tweeks I have seen online.. but nothing I want to bother with
[19:24]  * Nickey gone googling 'ubuntu tweaks'
[19:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Phantomas man chown  and chroot   and read slowly and understand them
[19:24] <rampageoberon> Phantomas: sudo chmod <perms> /home/folder
[19:24] <spideyman> Phantomas chmod
[19:24] <Ette> i have ubuntu on my laptop and my desktop. i want to take it off my laptop. do i need to reinstall an bootloader on windows?
[19:24] <LogicalDash> Nickey, the default swap size is 2GB, perhaps you should grow your swap partition
[19:25] <XXer> What is the extension of executables in Linux (In Windows it would be .exe) also how can I find where the executable file of a program icon that is in the application menu (In Windows I would right click on the icon and in the properties it would tell me where the the file is on the hard drive)
[19:25] <rampageoberon> Ette: boot windows with in recovery mode and run fixmbr and fixboot
[19:25] <frostburn> with 2gb of ram, you shouldn't be invading swap space at any point unless you're running a gigantic database or something
[19:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Ette boot windows cd and fixmbr in recovery mode
[19:25] <LogicalDash> XXer: we don't use filename extensions generally
[19:25] <ironfoot_495> Hi, can I get some info on hmail?
[19:25] <rampageoberon> XXer: for debian based distros its .deb
[19:25] <Nickey> LogicalDash: why does it need it so big? I had 512 swapfile in winxp, that's why I chose that much
[19:25] <tschaka^> Phantomas to do it the easy way, "sudo nautilus", navigate there, and right click on the directory, click the tab permissions or whatever, and adjust it there.
[19:25] <failure> !svn
[19:25] <b00bsbr> hi, what cvs GUI do you guys recommend? i just migrated and used wincvs on windows. is there anything similar besides gcvs?
[19:25] <LogicalDash> Nickey, I don't know, but it's the recommended size
[19:25] <Insurrecto> Jack_Sparrow: Everytime i burn a cd it gives me MD5 error and fail to read package.gz
[19:26] <ASULutzy> tschaka, Phantomas: I think you should use gksudo nautilus instead of sudo nautilus, right?
[19:26] <Ette> jack_sparrow: i never got a windows CD with the laptop.
[19:26] <XXer> really ok then
[19:26] <tschaka^> ASULutzy should work both :p
[19:26] <KRaZy_WaKa> Ette: what version of windows is on your laptop?
[19:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Ette Some mfg now charge for the cd they should have givin you in the first place
[19:26] <rampageoberon> XXer: well .deb are install files, and executable applications don't have extensions
[19:26] <LogicalDash> XXer: .deb is the extension for Debian packages, which contain software distributions; the actual executables generally have no extension
[19:26] <frostburn> Nickey, you probably don't need any
[19:27] <coobster> i got a inspiron 6400 laptop with no wifi
[19:27] <ASULutzy> tschaka^: Oh, I may be mistaken, I thought I remembered reading something once about rocking gksu with nautilus and there being a reason to actually do it
[19:27] <leeping2008> Hi there, if I have a terminal and pressing the arrow keys gives me ASCII code, how do I change it so that the arrow keys navigate?
[19:27] <Nickey> frostburn: any what>
[19:27] <pub> lol
[19:27] <LogicalDash> XXer: instead, every Linux file has an "executable bit"; you can check whether it's set or not using the command "file <filename>"
[19:27] <pub> i broke something
[19:27] <Phantomas> ok one more question i have a problem with su... it doesnt accept my pass :(
[19:27] <Phantomas> i am sure i remember it correctly
[19:27] <frostburn> Nickey, you don't need any swap space, what are you trying to run that's over 2gb
[19:27] <pub> when i click x-chat it opens up but closes immediately
[19:27] <tschaka^> ASULutzy dunnno, never had probs running nautilus via sudo :)
[19:27] <ASULutzy> tschaka^: Yea this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[19:27] <pub> right now im chatting on irssi ;s
[19:27] <rampageoberon> su on its own tries to change user to root Phantomas so it won't accept
[19:28] <rampageoberon> Phantomas: do sudo
[19:28] <KRaZy_WaKa> Ette: may i pm you as windows is off-topic in here, but i could point you in the direction of a Win XP OEM disc if thats what you are running
[19:28] <pub> anyone have any tips ?
[19:28] <frostburn> leeping2008, check out System>Pref>Assistive Tech>Keyboard Pref>Mouse Keys>uncheck allow
[19:28] <sharpe_uk> does no harm to have a swap partition
[19:28] <Insurrecto> Hello can any1 give em a hand on installing ubuntu, im having some problems.
[19:28] <unavailable> Ette, technically you can get an OEM disk and use it as long as you have a legal key
[19:28] <tschaka^> ASULutzy ok, good to know, thanks :)
[19:29] <white_eagle> any good proxy software for linux?
[19:29] <Ette> krazy_waka: sure
[19:29] <tschaka^> pub run xchat from terminal and see what happens.
[19:29] <Nickey> frostburn: you guys have different opinions and I dunno the truth
[19:29] <ASULutzy> tschaka^: Yea, I've never had any problems with it, just like I've never had a problem using sudo su to do things. I guess it just boils down to a "best practices" thing
[19:29] <tschaka^> true :)
[19:30] <commander-ape> why cant i delete the whole content of a folder using lftp? rm * gets me a "Access failed: 550 *: No such file or directory"
[19:30] <Phantomas> rampageoberon and if i want to get super user access?
[19:31] <XXer> what im trying to do is have Xchat start when I click on a irc link...now when i click on a link it just asks me what program I want to use to open the link and I dont know what file to link to(or where it is) to start the Xchat program.
[19:31] <rampageoberon> Phantomas: by default ubuntu doesn't enable root account, you should use sudo for temporary root privilages
[19:31] <Ette> phantomas: you dont, sudo does what you want and does it well.
[19:31] <rampageoberon> Phantomas: sudo is pretty much all you will need
[19:31] <Pici> Phantomas: You can use sudo -i
[19:31] <Insurrecto> Im having some errors installing ubuntu, MD5 check and package.gz read error.
[19:32] <Phantomas> ok thank you all
[19:32] <spideyman> Ette have you looked in /usr/bin
[19:34] <Nickey> Jack_Sparrow: do you think this guide is of any use? - http://www.linuxmonitor.net/blog/2007/03/ultimate-ubuntu-performance-tweaking.html
[19:34] <frostburn> Nickey, well, for opening an office document, swap space isn't necessary.
[19:34] <spideyman> XXer have you looked in /usr/bin
[19:34] <tschaka^> XXer http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=af225f40374b1ed1d17d9d30c527c33f&t=25372&page=2 check this last post, if u dont get something, there are further explanations on page one.
[19:35] <Zimtstern> thanks for this great OS !
[19:35] <Zimtstern> :)
[19:35] <tschaka^> and now, i am away, cu around folks
[19:35] <rampageoberon> XXer: which xchat will tell you where it the executable is
[19:35] <XXer> Thanks a lot!
[19:36] <Insurrecto> Can any1 give me a hand with Ubuntu installation?
[19:36] <tschaka^> XXer and u might want to use "xchat" instead of "xchat-gnome"
[19:36] <Bilge> Is there some Ubuntu package that installs software that acts as a DNS server that could be used for DNS lookups by remote machines
[19:36] <ASULutzy> XXer: Can't you just run "which xchat" ?
[19:36] <rokra> hello
[19:36] <ASULutzy> XXer: for example for me if I type "which pidgin" it returns /usr/bin/pidgin
[19:36] <rampageoberon> Bilge: for dns server look at the package BIND
[19:37] <rokra> hello
[19:37] <Bilge> I thought that was for setting up new names though
[19:37] <Bilge> I just want my server to act as a lookup server
[19:37] <XXer> ill try that
[19:37] <leeping2008> frostburn, thank you :) I actually had a problem with a VMD console, not an Ubuntu terminal, and I wanted to see if there was a more general solution
[19:37] <rampageoberon> Bilge: BIND does what you want
[19:37] <Bilge> OK thanks then
[19:37] <rokra> I need help to troubleshoot NFS on ubunut. I installed a server NFS but when the client try to mount it I have the message permission denied
[19:37] <Bilge> I'll read up on it
[19:38] <ireland> Hi all and thx in advance. I'm runing ubuntu studio 7.10 and have been trying to update to 8.04 but when i start the Update Manager it gives me an error saying "W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de stable Release.... NO_PUBKEY..." I've also tried updateing of a mounted .ISO but have no luck. I can update packets after i close the error msg but there is't an opp to update to 8.04. can any one help me?
[19:38] <Scunizi> I unmounted my usb memory stick and plugged it in 2 mins. later.. It won't auto mount.. tried sudo mount -a with no results.. how do I mount it without rebooting?
[19:38] <fyrestrtr> anyone know of an atari 2600 emulator?
[19:38] <gma> hello ppl
[19:38] <ASULutzy> Scunizi: First do sudo fdisk -l to find out what the name of the USB stick partition is. Then you can do sudo mkdir /media/whereyouwanttomountit and then sudo mount /dev/thedevice /media/whereyouwanttomountit
[19:39] <cszikszoy> can anyone help me troubleshoot a GDM logout error?
[19:39] <Scunizi> ASULutzy: thanks..
[19:39] <gma> anyone knows this problem with windows+samba?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/19112/
[19:40] <Vannovaria> hi all
[19:40] <rrittenhouse> Has anybody else had the problem with Nautilus when your connected to a host via SFTP (SSH) the create folder and create file options on the right click context menu are disabled when you have permissions to create files and folders in that directory
[19:40] <lukehasnoname> Why can't I use alt-tab in fullscreen apps?
[19:41] <Scunizi> ASULutzy: Let's blame this one on windows and a bad physical machine design as well as my own stupidity. I had removed a short usb extension from my machine to put on the win machine and it disconnected my usb hub.. working now.
[19:41] <grunge> hello
[19:41] <chetnick> hi guys, i am  connected to remote network over VPN. Now, they have Windows shared printer on one of the computers. I want to be able to print to that printer. Now when i try to add printer (windows printer via samba) it just see's local workgroups and printers. Can somebody help me with this?
[19:41] <Vannovaria> any dutch speaking people round here?
[19:42] <ASULutzy> Oh, I have a question that's been bugging me. I set up ssh on my home machine a long time ago and recently changed it so it would not accept passwords, only my key. But now if I want to for some reason use the "connect to server" feature built into ubuntu to connect to the home machine through ssh (sftp) it fails because it doesn't seem like there's a way to specify the key location instead of a password... Any help?
[19:42] <rampageoberon> lukehasnoname: alt-tab should work in any case
[19:42] <maxxism> is there a way to resize ext3 filesystems without loosing data?  will gparted do it?
[19:42] <rampageoberon> maxxism: yes gparted will do it
[19:42] <ASULutzy> Scunizi: heh, it happens!
[19:42] <lolo> what update of firefox is on the reops?
[19:42] <maxxism> thanx
[19:42] <rampageoberon> lolo: RC1
[19:42] <Scunizi> ASULutzy: I need a 150psi compressor to pop the dent out of my forhead!
[19:43] <ompaul> !nl | Vannovaria
[19:43] <ompaul> !latest | lolo
[19:43] <cszikszoy> Can anyone help me out with a GDM error on logout?
[19:43] <Scunizi> cszikszoy: does it just stop and not logout?
[19:43] <Vannovaria> !nl
[19:43] <cszikszoy> yep
[19:43] <XXer> Thats what I was looking for that "which" command .... Thanks for all the help
[19:43] <Scunizi> cszikszoy: do you have keytouch installed?
[19:43] <cszikszoy> freezes only showing the desktop background - all panels and apps quit
[19:43] <cszikszoy> yes
[19:43] <ASULutzy> XXer: which rocks :P glad to be a help
[19:44] <Vannovaria> Bedankt mannen :-), cu on ubuntu-nl
[19:44] <Shak-> noob question, how do I close compiz and start metacity? and is metacity the thing to run when I want to play games with the highest possible performance?
[19:44] <Scunizi> cszikszoy: that happened to me.. 2 things to do.. on shutdown do a ctrl+alt+F2 .. login and "sudo shutdown -P now" or uninstall keytouch.
[19:44] <ASULutzy> metacity --replace &
 where does it say rc1 help --> about firefox just says 3.0
[19:45] <Shak-> ASULutzy: and then how do I bring compiz back?
[19:45] <lukehasnoname> rampageoberon:Ya, well it doesn't. When playing games (Nex, Quake wars) my global hotkeys, alt-tab both don't work.
[19:45] <dury> hi there channel :)
[19:45] <ASULutzy> compiz --replace &
[19:45] <ireland> Vannovaria: ik kan proberen
[19:45] <ASULutzy> I think
[19:45] <ASULutzy> :P
[19:45] <rampageoberon> lukehasnoname: no idea
[19:45] <Shak-> lol k
[19:45] <rampageoberon> lolo: do sudo aptitude show firefox
[19:45] <ompaul> lolo apt-cache policy firefox
[19:46] <wiijii> Hello all, bit of a long shot, but has anyone ever used VTK or done any sort of visualisation programming?
[19:46] <lolo> thanks!
[19:46] <Shak-> ASULutzy: correct! :)
[19:46] <ASULutzy> Shak-: Woot, go me ;)
[19:46] <ireland> Vannovaria: was tht close to some thing at all
[19:47] <cedric30> Hi all,
[19:47] <Shak-> ASULutzy: also im guessing the answer to my second question is 'yes'? or is there something even lighter to use
[19:47] <ASULutzy> Shak-: Check out compiz-fusion icon, it lets you swap back and forth with just some mouse clicks
[19:47] <wiijii> Noone?
[19:47] <cedric30> Someone know why the packet gnome-keyring-manager is missing on hardy?
[19:47] <chetnick> hi guys, i am  connected to remote network over VPN. Now, they have Windows shared printer on one of the computers. I want to be able to print to that printer. Now when i try to add printer (windows printer via samba) it just see's local workgroups and printers. Can somebody help me with this?
[19:48] <unavailable> wiijii noone?
[19:48] <Shak-> ASULutzy: do you mean in the compiz settings manager? I checked around there but couldn't find it
[19:48] <rampageoberon> cedric30: i have gnome-keyring
[19:48] <unavailable> is that a foreign noon?
[19:48] <Pici> wiijii: Try ##programming or /msg alis list *vtk*
[19:48] <rampageoberon> cedric30: no gnome-keyring-manager
[19:48] <wiijii> As in, does noone know about visualisation or VTK. Maybe I should have hyphenated :D
[19:48] <dury> my k3b doesn't make a new audio cd project if I drag in a mp3 file ..... maybe I'm missing a plug-in for that?
[19:48] <porkchop86> hey since yall are talking about compiz I'll throw this out there. Anyone gotten combiz to play nice with an ATI dual monitor setup?
[19:48] <cedric30> rampageoberon, do you have the gnome environnement packet installed?
[19:48] <xpet> hello!
[19:49] <Odd-rationale> !hi | xpet
[19:49] <unavailable> wiijii who's this noone you keep referring to?
[19:49] <ThinkFlou> huh
[19:49] <rampageoberon> cedric30: yes i'm using gnome
[19:49] <ASULutzy> Shak-: No, it's a little app that will run in your tray and if you right click it you can do all sorts of neat things... Just google compiz fusion icon... I used a nice little script called makefusion9, you could probably google that one as well, it basically downloads all the newest compiz stuff from the git repository and compiles and installs it all for you
[19:49] <Shak-> ASULutzy: ah ok, will do thanks
[19:49] <wiijii> as in no-one
[19:50] <ASULutzy> Shak-: Performance wise I'm not really sure, my laptop is too slow to do any serious gaming and my desktop is pretty powerful and doesn't get slowed down a bit by having compiz... I do however check the unredirect full screen windows under the general settings tab in compiz config manager. I have to do this becaue fglrx has a weird flickering bug when using compiz (ATI sucks.)
[19:50] <rampageoberon> wiijii: depends who's reading this and if they know
[19:50] <rampageoberon> wiijii: try the forums too for help ubuntuforums.org
[19:51] <ASULutzy> So I'll fire this one out there again see if anyone bites. I set up ssh on my home machine a long time ago and recently changed it so it would not accept passwords, only my key. But now if I want to for some reason use the "connect to server" feature built into ubuntu to connect to the home machine through ssh (sftp) it fails because it doesn't seem like there's a way to specify the key location instead of a password... Any help?
[19:51] <wiijii> Yeah obviously they need to be reading this... that's why I ask :D I just need a little tip on one thing, no probs
[19:51] <LiraNuna> anyone knows what the update for GCC was today?
[19:51] <KRaZy_WaKa> theFATMAN: uBLUNTu what up
[19:51] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm | dury
[19:51] <Gigahertz123> Hey gang
[19:51] <dury> ok
[19:52] <Gigahertz123> I have an ubuntu issue
[19:52] <Gigahertz123> who wants to help?
[19:52] <PennyCostco> how can i format my exeternal harddisk?
[19:52] <ompaul> !ask | Gigahertz123
[19:52] <Gigahertz123> <------total n00b
[19:52] <porkchop86> ASUL: on your aforementioned desktop to you have more than one monitor and if so how did you get compiz to play nice?
[19:52] <ASULutzy> I wonder if I should file a bug report for that... it seems dumb that Ubuntu's built in "connect to server" for ssh only allows you to connect to password protected ssh servers and not public/private key pair ones.
[19:53] <PennyCostco> how can i format my exeternal harddisk??
[19:53] <ASULutzy> porkchop86: Compiz does not work with extended desktops beyond a certain region. As far as I know there's no way around that, but I could definitely be wrong
[19:53] <wiijii> Gigahertz123, there are a LOT of tutorials to do that on the net
[19:53] <ompaul> ASULutzy, ehh I used it with private keys
[19:53] <dury> my k3b doesn't make a new audio cd project if I drag in a mp3 file ..... maybe I'm missing a plug-in for that.... like mpgdecoder. what's your opinion?
[19:53] <wiijii> I have dual monitors with compiz
[19:53] <porkchop86> well damn
[19:53] <ompaul> !compiz | wiijii
[19:53] <ASULutzy> ompaul: How? I mean I know I can use ssh with a private key, I do it all the time. But I'm talking about clicking places->then connect to server-> and selecting ssh
[19:53] <rampageoberon> PennyCostco: i'd use gparted to format
[19:53] <Hobbypunk> hi
[19:53] <PennyCostco> rampageoberon:  thanks
[19:54] <ompaul> ASULutzy, I had to share the keys first
[19:54] <_paneb> i am trying to apt-get postgresql-plperl through ssh on a remote machine, but it cannot find the package. can i find a .deb somewhere to install manually?
[19:54] <ASULutzy> ompaul: When I go to there the only fields to fill out are the ip address, the port, the folder, etc
[19:54] <porkchop86> wiijii: are you using an Nvidia card cause is pretty easy to set up (that doesn't prevent it from looking awesome)
[19:54] <naruttebayo> I'm trying to install the OSX lookalike theme and I don't know how to install the file "DreamAccurate-OSX-Emerald-theme.emerald"
[19:54] <craigbass1976> Is there any kind of whiteboard type app in the repos?  I'm looking for something I can run on Ub and see/edit from windows boxes on the network
[19:54] <wiijii> 2 secs
[19:54] <zancdar> Bonjour tout le monde, j'aimerai savoir comment je peux accéder à ma partition NTFS en écriture car Kubuntu m'offre que le readonly
[19:54] <Gigahertz123> ok ok.  Here's the story.  Downloaded and burned ubuntu 8.04, installed it.  Wireless refused to work and someone told me to download the madwifi drivers for atheros.  I did, and it worked.  So I connected to the internet through my wifi and downloaded all the updates via synaptic, which apparently included a kernel update from 8.04.16 to 8.04.19.  Wireless outright refuses to work in 8.04.19 but works fine in 8.04.16.  What the cra
[19:54] <ompaul> ASULutzy, i.e. to do keys I had to use the command line now that might be a worthwhile bug
[19:54] <ASULutzy> ompaul: right, but how do I even tell Ubuntu's "connect to server" feature where the key is at?
[19:54] <ireland> can any one help me with updateing to 8.04
[19:54] <zancdar> Sorry bad chan
[19:55] <rampageoberon> _paneb: sud aptitude search postgresql to check if the package exists
[19:55] <ASULutzy> ompaul: right, that's what I'm saying. I can use the command line to ssh to my machine at home without a hitch using keys. But the graphical thing that's built in that allows nautilus integration doesn't seem to support keys, which is odd
[19:55] <ompaul> ASULutzy, the server auths if you are going to a directory you have access too - i.e. a user who owns some location
[19:55] <wiijii> porkchop86, yes I am using an 8800 gt nvidia card
[19:55] <_paneb> rampageoberon, hmm it does exist
[19:55] <Mezo> hello
[19:55] <Hobbypunk> I have I problem, I'm creating an Icon Set and since yesterday the gnome-system-monitor, didn't start and I get this error: ﻿terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::FileError' have anybody an idea, which icon is the reason?
[19:55] <ompaul> ASULutzy, if you have keys in place to somewhere use it
[19:56] <ireland> Hi all and thx in advance. I'm runing ubuntu studio 7.10 and have been trying to update to 8.04 but when i start the Update Manager it gives me an error saying "W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de stable Release.... NO_PUBKEY..." I've also tried updateing of a mounted .ISO but have no luck. I can update packets after i close the error msg but there is't an opp to update to 8.04. can any one help me?
[19:56] <dury> can't create a normal audio cd with K3B with mp3 files
[19:56] <Gigahertz123> so I don't understand what would make the old version work but the new one not work.  wtf.
[19:56] <Mezo> n=misiek@78.133.212.16
[19:56] <ASULutzy> ompaul: Well, to connect to my machine at home from command line I simply do ssh -i .the/path/to/key my.ip.address.here
[19:56] <dury> anyone can drive me please
[19:56] <ASULutzy> ompaul: But I can't seem to do the same from the built in "connect to server" feature in Ubuntu, that's what I'm trying to get at
[19:57] <wiijii> ireland you need to add the gpg to your key probs, just google for ubuntu cd pgp or something
[19:57] <pen> my vx revolution can't be detected if I use evdev, who know how to solve this?
[19:57] <Hobbypunk> ﻿I have I problem, I'm creating an Icon Set and since yesterday the gnome-system-monitor, didn't start and I get this error: ﻿terminate called after throwing an instance of 'Glib::FileError' have anybody an idea, which icon is the reason?
[19:57] <wiijii> i.e. trust wherever you download it from
[19:57] <ireland> Wiijii: thx
[19:57] <wiijii> it'll be like a one line command
[19:57] <wiijii> np
[19:58] <wiijii> you may want to add 'armor' to your google search as I think that comes up in the command, may narrow it down
[19:58] <ompaul> ASULutzy, ----- I just connected to a machine that I never used the gui on before --- I did this using the keys that are already in place  -- I fail to understand your problem, I did not have to put in a password as my keys do not contain a password in that particular exchange - I only needed to tell it the remote machine - and the remote username and it showed it to me in nautilus
[19:58] <Gigahertz123> any ideas?
[19:58] <steph_> hi everybody
[19:58] <tornvig> can anyone fix retrieval of duplicate messages from an exchange server via imap?
[19:58] <steph_> just a silly question about some FTP commands
[19:58] <steph_> how can I get all files in a directory
[19:58] <steph_> get * doesn't work.
[19:58] <ompaul> steph_, mget *
[19:59] <steph_> thank you !
[19:59] <ompaul> steph_, in this day and age pointing a web browser at it and sucking that way seems like a good way
[19:59] <wiijii> Gigahertz123 what card have you got? Maybe you need patched drivers or something
[19:59] <porkchop86> pen: I used X Keybindings to utilize all the buttons on my MX revolution it was pretty slick
[19:59] <wiijii> I had a nightmare with an ExpressCard
[20:00] <craigbass1976> Is there any kind of whiteboard type app in the repos?  I'm looking for something I can run on Ub and see/edit from windows boxes on the network
[20:00] <yo> should I switch to hardy?
[20:00] <steph_> ompaul, what d'you mean ^o) ?
[20:00] <yo> I got that gutsy
[20:00] <steph_> this isn't the right place to ask right ?
[20:00] <pen> porkchop86, I know x binding, but my issue is that if I plug my receiver in, the mouse won't be detected, so it's not moving
[20:00] <Bodsda> yo, if you want to
[20:00] <steph_> googleismyfriend ?
[20:00] <jussi01> craigbass1976: have you thought of using google docs?
[20:00] <Gigahertz123> wiijii: Well therein lies a problem.  I don't know exactly what card I have and I don't know how to look it up in linux.
[20:00] <Bodsda> steph_: go and google it
[20:00] <pen> porkchop86, it will be detected if I leave the receive in USB and reboot
[20:00] <stemount^> steph_: Google is *always* your friend :)
[20:00] <wiijii> hwdetect?
[20:00] <steph_> ok, understood =)
[20:00] <steph_> bye all
[20:00] <stemount^> cya steph_ :)
[20:00] <yo> I mean is it wild problematic
[20:01] <craigbass1976> jussi01, I don't trust google.  I want something I can run on a server behind our firewall
[20:01] <Gigahertz123> wiijii: someone told me to download the madwifi pack and it worked, but it doesn't work for the latest version of linux for whatever reason.
[20:01] <tornvig> can anyone fix retrieval of duplicate messages from an exchange server via imap?
[20:01] <yo> with sound issues, etc
[20:01] <wiijii> is it a different kernel?
[20:01] <Gigahertz123> wiijii: how do I do hwdetect?  Just put that in the terminal?
[20:01] <stemount^> yo: personally I've had a few issues with 8.40
[20:01] <stemount^> 8.04**
[20:01] <naruttebayo> ﻿ I'm trying to install the OSX lookalike theme and I don't know how to install the file "DreamAccurate-OSX-Emerald-theme.emerald"
[20:01] <porkchop86> pen: thats a problem, the binding is to a single USB address (I believe could be wrong)
[20:01] <Jack_Sparrow> tornvig in thunderbird there are settings to avoid that
[20:01] <stemount^> yo: but usually it works great for most people :)
[20:01] <Bodsda> yo, many peopleare running hardy problem free,.,. also many people are still happily running gutsyy problem free
[20:01] <wiijii> ummm just checking on ubuntu it doesn't have hwdetect. But you can install hwdata, that may be similar
[20:01] <Lighter> hi all
[20:01] <ASULutzy> ompaul: Sorry was afk, where is your key located? I'm wondering if it has to be in a certain location... Mine is located in .ssh/backup
[20:01] <TroubleHelix> Hi
[20:01] <stemount^> ha
[20:01] <stemount^> i
[20:01] <wiijii> Or try lspci
[20:02] <yo> stemount^: sound?
[20:02] <porkchop86> pen: it has to know where to talk from the beginning or it doesn't work
[20:02] <stemount^> yo: indeed - I'm not impressed with pulseaudio at all
[20:02] <stemount^> yo: :(
[20:02] <Lighter> does anyone know how to share the vodafone connection throw huawei e220??
[20:02] <pub> how would i copy something out of terminal, ctrl C, ctrl shift c  both don't work
[20:02] <Gigahertz123> you mean linux doesn't have a hardware manager type program by default?
[20:02] <yo> stemount^:  I heard that!
[20:02] <Bodsda> stemount^: not many people are ;~)
[20:02] <stemount^> Bodsda/yo
[20:02] <stemount^> hehe :)
[20:02] <maxxism> 'easy to switch back to alsa at least
[20:02] <Gigahertz123> or rather 8.04 doesn't?
[20:02] <wiijii> Umm yeah Ubuntu possibly does
[20:02] <Slart> pub: ctrl+alt c, ctrl+alt v etc
[20:02] <wiijii> I tend to use cmd line though
[20:02] <porkchop86> ctrl shift C should copy from the term
[20:03] <ompaul> ASULutzy, ehh .ssh/authorized_keys is the place on the server where you store the keys of the user you want to access the machine remotely
[20:03] <Bodsda> pub: ctrl+shift+c   does work,.,.alternatively use right-click -->copy
[20:03] <Slart> pub: or is it ctrl+shift c etc
[20:03] <ASULutzy> ompaul: I just want to make sure we're on the same page. So for me, I can connect by typing "ssh -i .ssh/backup my.ip.address.here" and it doesn't ask for a password and everything is peachy. But if I click places -> connect to server, and select ssh and then put in my.ip.address.here for the server and my user name for the user, it doesn't work
[20:03] <stemount^> maxxism: indeed - I found 7.10 really stable except Nautilus doesn't seem anywhere near as reliable as Nautilus on 8.04
[20:03] <pen> porkchop86, but I use change the driver from evdev to mouse, it would be detected
[20:03] <pen> porkchop86, if
[20:03] <TroubleHelix> pub: I can usually just highlight it, then switch to your other application and do a paste (middle mouse button or ctrl-v).
[20:03] <ompaul> ASULutzy, working in a none standard way will bite
[20:03] <Slart> pub: yes.. ctrl+shift
[20:03] <Gigahertz123> well I'll dink with it for a bit....get back to you later
[20:03] <pen> porkchop86, in xorg.conf
[20:03] <UncleCJ> Stupid xchat full disk bug crashes my servlist...
[20:03] <ASULutzy> ompaul: maybe it's just a configuration issue then
[20:03] <wiijii> just try 'lspci -v' in console
[20:04] <porkchop86> pen: well thats fun, you got me beat there
[20:04] <wols_> does ubuntu have a channel helping people who build their own packages?
[20:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !packaging
[20:04] <pub> To run a command as administrator (user "root"), use "sudo <command>".
[20:04] <pub> See "man sudo_root" for details.
[20:04] <pen> porkchop86, it's not fun at all
[20:04] <pub> ahhhhhhh
[20:04] <pub> thank you
[20:04] <FloodBot1> pub: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:04] <pub> lol
[20:04] <pub> sorry
[20:05] <ompaul> ASULutzy, you are operating in a none standard way so I would concur, things expect other things  to be in certain places to work with them
[20:05] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: but no channel or such?
[20:05] <stemount^> Does anyone here use LVM, and if so, do you recommend it?
[20:05] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_ Not that I am aware of
[20:05] <theFATMAN> hey guys, i got a major problem. I zipped up all my passwords in text files, then encrypted the archive. Now, I went to unzip it, and apparently I have forgotten the Password. How can I unlock this !@#!$ thing?
[20:06] <ompaul> wols_, I would imagine #ubuntu-motu and the #ubuntu-bugs places would be good places to look
[20:06] <wiijii> theFATMAN .... really?
[20:06] <ASULutzy> ompaul: So when you connect through ssh on the command line, do you use the -i flag or just ssh the.ip.address.here
[20:06] <wols_> k.
[20:06] <stemount^> !commands
[20:06] <theFATMAN> wiijii: yes, really, this was done before i switched to linux
[20:06] <ompaul> ASULutzy, ssh -C user@remote if I am not already that username
[20:06] <wiijii> theFATMAN: You're probably in trouble then
[20:07] <theFATMAN> wiijii: ?
[20:07] <Slart> theFATMAN: I seem to recall earlier implementations of encryption for zip was kind of unsecure.. but if they did it right you won't be getting those passwords back anytime soon
[20:07] <ASULutzy> Oh that worked for me
[20:07] <porkchop86> i have to agree with wiijii, FATMAN did you really do that. Theres jokes on tech support websites about that happening
[20:07] <wiijii> theFATMAN there's no simple way of cracking encryption, that's the point
[20:07] <Jack_Sparrow> badassmuther Please change your nick now
[20:07] <ASULutzy> ompaul: ssh -C $USER@myhost worked... But why won't it work through the built in connect to server I wonder....
[20:07] <theFATMAN> Slart: I vaguely recall a program that is for this purpose, any ideas?
[20:07] <Bodsda> i belive there is a brute force password cracker in the repo
[20:07] <Slart> theFATMAN: that's kind of the whole idea behind encrypting it.. =)
[20:08] <ompaul> ASULutzy, that we will leave as an exercise for the user I already advised you the authorized_keys are usually expected to be in .ssh
[20:08] <theFATMAN> Slart: I vaguely recall a program that is for this purpose, any ideas?
[20:08] <wiijii> theFATMAN: there are a lot of brute force crackers around, using them is probably beyond the scope of an IRC chat
[20:08] <Slart> theFATMAN: go out into the shadier parts of the internet.. google might be helpful.. I won't say more.. I'll just get a !piracy or !cracking in the back of my head =)
[20:08] <Bodsda> wiijii: isnt there one in the repo's? (its got a human name but i cant remember it)
[20:08] <stemount^> !LVM
[20:09] <wiijii> Bodsda: jack is it?
[20:09] <jarco|linux> nice
[20:09] <stemount^> I love the ubuntu wiki
[20:09] <Bodsda> !jack
[20:09] <jarco|linux> never new about this channel
[20:09] <Bodsda> wiijii: not sure
[20:09] <draginxx> Help! I mounted something onto my HD and now all of my old desktop files are gone, where did they go? :(
[20:09] <theFATMAN> wiijii, Slart: thanks guys, i was hoping it wouldnt come to that, i cant even get in my router now
[20:09] <jarco|linux> never new about this channel?
[20:09] <draginxx> Or, how do I unmont whatever has been mounted to /Desktop
[20:09] <wiijii> !john
[20:09] <Jack_Sparrow> draginxx unmount or just not show on the desktop
[20:09] <wiijii> I think it's called john
[20:09] <Slart> theFATMAN: check this.. http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fcrackzip-password-cracker-for-zip-archives.html
[20:09] <rampageoberon> !gksudo
[20:10] <draginxx> Jack_Sparrow, how do I unmount? :S
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> draginxx man umount
[20:10] <wiijii> theFATMAN: can you not reset router manually?
[20:10] <theFATMAN> Slart: thanks, ttyl
[20:10] <ASULutzy> ompaul: But on the server the authorized key is in the right spot? it's in .ssh/authorized_keys... And again, I can do ssh -C me@my.ip.address from command line and it works just fine. But nothing I seem to do lets me connect to it through the connect to server thing under places.... Who knows I'll keep tinkering, thanks for the help
[20:10] <Bodsda> wiijii: its called john
[20:10] <theFATMAN> wiijii: yeah, but its a pain, cuz i dont want to have to redo all my settings
[20:10] <Slart> theFATMAN: next time.. print out the list.. put it in a box with a lock.. locks can be broken =)
[20:11] <theFATMAN> Slart, yeah no kidding, I thought I was being slick, this way...i was wrong
[20:11] <ompaul> theFATMAN, you have strayed off topic too far please drop the subject before I issue a !piracy or some such
[20:11] <draginxx> Jack_Sparrow, how do I see a list of everything that is mounted? :|
[20:11] <draginxx> in mtab?
[20:11] <wols_> draginxx: df
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> draginxx mount
[20:11] <bartmon> hey guys. I've scanned some images and now i want to put them all in one PDF file. how can i do that? I've looked at printer options but there is no spooling option.
[20:11] <Slart> draginxx: cat /etc/mtab
[20:12] <theFATMAN> ompaul: ............thanks for the 'warning' at least
[20:12] <julle_> Where are the monitor settings in Hardy, In gutsy they where in the Administrations menu
[20:12] <chetnick> hi guys, i am  connected to remote network over VPN. Now, they have Windows shared printer on one of the computers. I want to be able to print to that printer. Now when i try to add printer (windows printer via samba) it just see's local workgroups and printers. Can somebody help me with this?
[20:12] <Slart> bartmon: check if imagemagick can do pdf's.. I almost think it does
[20:12] <bartmon> ok
[20:12] <wiijii> chetnick: you need to set up cups
[20:12] <wiijii> I think
[20:12] <ompaul> Slart, you got a pm ;-)
[20:13] <natjo2> does anybody have any experience with wrt54gs linksys wireless routers?
[20:13] <wiijii> yeah I have one
[20:13] <wols_> !anyone | natjo2
[20:13] <draginxx> hmm ok, I tried to umount the ~/Desktop folder after I mounted something to it, but I still see the mounted info on my desktop =/
[20:14] <natjo2> okay real question is i can't connect wireless devices to my wrt54gs linksys router
[20:14] <draginxx> df is not showing anything, mount isn't, and etc.
[20:14] <wols_> draginxx: is your mtab empty?
[20:14] <ompaul> bartmon, you can insert picture from file in openoffice and generate a document if you want
[20:14] <draginxx> wols_, no
[20:14] <natjo2> and i can't modify the setting for it in firefox
[20:14] <afabian> draginxx: I'd try clicking an item on the desktop to select it, and hit F5 to refresh.
[20:14] <wiijii> natjo2: that's a bit vague, it could be many things. What is working
[20:14] <Slart> draginxx: I would do a reboot.. or at least restart x.. who knows what that mount did to your desktop
[20:14] <UncleCJ> natjo2: Can you see it at all?
[20:15] <draginxx> afabian, that work thanks :)
[20:15] <ompaul> bartmon, then you can export the doc as a PDF
[20:15] <draginxx> Thanks guys :)
[20:15] <draginxx> Scared me half to death heh
[20:15] <andrewboktor> guys
[20:15] <andrewboktor> need help
[20:15] <compubomb> what is the default packages to install when you decide you need to compile stuff ?
[20:15] <bartmon> ompaul: thanks, but i know about that and it gives a white edge around images. I would like the PDF "slides" to be perfectly sized to fit my images
[20:15] <andrewboktor> now on ubuntu 7.10 ad-hoc mode worked on my wireless card
[20:15] <UncleCJ> natjo2: I just had similar issue with a WRT56GL... US doesn't have channels 12 and 13 :-)
[20:16] <andrewboktor> iwconfig eth1 essid "andrewhoc" key s:bokto mode ad-hoc channel 5 ap any
[20:16] <natjo2> well the thing is i'm connected through this router
[20:16] <ompaul> bartmon, stick them into a presentation then
[20:16] <Slart> bartmon: I did that a couple of years ago with photos.. I wonder if I used ghostscript.. or imagemagick.. it was command line though.. I remember that much
[20:16] <phatmonkey> I have this in my user crontab to start rtorrent on boot: "@reboot screen -d -m -S torrent rtorrent" it doesn't work for whatever reason, but it does if I start it manually. other crontab entries work fine. it's a xen domU if that makes a difference
[20:16] <natjo2> so the router works i just can't modify the settings
[20:16] <compubomb> anyone ?
[20:17] <Slart> compubomb: build-essential
[20:17] <bartmon> compubomb: gcc
[20:17] <Slart> compubomb: it will install and setup the most common stuff
[20:17] <wiijii> natjo2: why not?
[20:17] <bartmon> compubomb: both of those :)
[20:17] <Slart> !info build-essential
[20:17] <zamba> how can i "convert" from a 32-bit system to a 64-bit system?
[20:17] <Slart> zamba: I'm not sure you can..
[20:17] <zamba> .. without reinstalling
[20:17] <natjo2> wiijii: that's what i'm trying to figure out i try the 192.168.1.1 thing and it doesn't do anything
[20:17] <Ddorda> hello
[20:17] <UncleCJ> natjo2: Are you still on 192.168.1.0-net? So if you do "ifconfig eth0" it should say 192.168.1.100 or something, and you should be able to connect to http://192.168.1.1 ?
[20:17] <george__> hey guys
[20:17] <zamba> Slart: why not? isn't it really just the kernel?
[20:18] <Slart> zamba: you'd need to install all those libs again
[20:18] <wiijii> natjo2: are you connected via ethernet?
[20:18] <Slart> zamba: oh no.. it's a lot more than the kernel
[20:18] <Ddorda> could any1 help me make the directory which is written here: http://client.silabsoft.org/loaderror_download%20client.html ?
[20:18] <UncleCJ> natjo2: ...replacing eth0 with the device you're connected through
[20:18] <Slart> zamba: all the binaries.. libraries.. etc
[20:18] <george__> gdesklets will not work on my computer
[20:18] <george__> i installed it
[20:18] <george__> but it does nothing
[20:18] <natjo2> alright i'
[20:18] <natjo2> m connected through my modem to the router to my computer
[20:19] <zamba> Slart: an easy way of reinstalling without loosing files and other stuff? :)
[20:19] <george__> :(
[20:19] <wols_> natjo2: can you change your router settings with other OSes?
[20:19] <wiijii> natjo2: via an ethernet cable? I mean, your computer plugs into the router, which plugs into the modem, right?
[20:19] <andrewboktor> on ubuntu 8.04, eth1 became wlan0
[20:19] <andrewboktor>  iwconfig wlan0 essid "andrewhoc" key s:bokto mode ad-hoc channel 5 ap any
[20:19] <Slart> zamba: what's the partition setup? everything in one big partition?
[20:19] <natjo2> wiijii: yes an ethernet cable and wols_, i have no other OS
[20:19] <andrewboktor> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[20:19] <andrewboktor>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Device or resource busy.
[20:19] <zamba> Slart: yup, so no separate /home
[20:20] <zamba> nah, i'll just leave it
[20:20] <wols_> natjo2: get a knoppix CD or DSL or whatever
[20:20] <zamba> i just have huge problems with suspend when running ubuntu
[20:20] <andrewboktor> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[20:20] <zamba> i can suspend just fine, but the problem is resuming
[20:20] <wiijii> natjo2: if you are connected internet via the router, it must be working ,so presumably you should be able to connect to it
[20:20] <wiijii> andrewboktor: is that an ExpressCard?
[20:20] <wols_> natjo2: what IP do you try in ffox?
[20:20] <andrewboktor> wiijii, what do you mean?
[20:21] <Ddorda> i need help with making a directory access, any1 can pm me?
[20:21] <wiijii> natjo2: have you tried http:192.168.1.1 and 192.168.0.1?
[20:21] <Slart> zamba: when I reinstalled my system I backed up all the files in /etc/ and my home folder to an external drive.. then reinstalled
[20:21] <wols_> !tell Ddorda about permissions
[20:21] <andrewboktor> wiijii, it's a normal laptop intel wireless card :)
[20:21] <wiijii> andrewboktor: I mean, are you on a laptop?
[20:21] <natjo2> i try the 192.168.1.1
[20:21] <andrewboktor> wiijii, yes
[20:21] <wols_> !permissions | Ddorda
[20:21] <wiijii> andrewboktor: and is it inbuilt or a card?
[20:21] <lea> hi
[20:21] <natjo2> and it just sits there for 5+ min and says page load error
[20:21] <andrewboktor> wiijii, inbuilt, it's an hp pavilion dv1000
[20:21] <jarco|linux> quick question
[20:22] <pub> how would i navigate to .Xdefaults via terminal
[20:22] <wiijii> andrewboktor: ah OK I thought you may have had the same issues I had with an ExpressCard
[20:22] <lea> hello ẞ
[20:22] <jarco|linux> ubuntu server standqrd supports sata drives?
[20:22] <Ddorda> wols. that didn't help me
[20:22] <wiijii> andrewboktor: presumably you've searched for installation guides regarding linux on a dv1000?
[20:22] <andrewboktor> wiijii, so.. ?
[20:22] <wols_> natjo2: what is your default gateway?
[20:22] <andrewboktor> wiijii, things worked on ubuntu 7.10 but not on ubuntu 8.04
[20:22] <Ward1983> is there a good asterisk tutorial / howto anywhere out there? google doesnt seem to come up with anything
[20:22] <wiijii> andrewboktor: I was thinking if it was the same error I had, I could help. But now maybe not
[20:23] <wiijii> strange
[20:23] <wiijii> did you install special drivers previously?
[20:23] <natjo2> wols_: i'm not quite sure how to check that
[20:23] <andrewboktor> wiijii, okay, thank you
[20:23] <wols_> natjo2: route -n
[20:23] <afabian> Can anyone help me figure out what device my USB thumb drive is? http://paste.ubuntu.com/19119/
[20:23] <wiijii> andrewboktor: sorry I can't help more
[20:23] <Ddorda> i need help with making a directory access, any1 can pm me? (no bot answer this time?)
[20:23] <wiijii> wols_: hah, I never knew that command, nice one
[20:23] <RULR> i need help with evolution mail
[20:23] <wols_> Ddorda: no one will until you describe your problem
[20:24] <natjo2> wols_: under the gateway heading all of them are 0.0.0.0
[20:24] <Ddorda> i need to make a directory which any1 can read & write to it
[20:24] <Kremlin[NA]> Hello, I just upgraded to 8.04 and when idle in system monitor my CPU usage is about 70%, thou no Processes are taking anything above 2%... Can anyone tell me what is happening?
[20:24] <Ward1983> afabian, you had data on it and it stopped working?
[20:24] <wols_> natjo2: pastebin it
[20:24] <housam1991> linuxac#
[20:24] <housam1991> #linuxac
[20:24] <enterneo> on hardy heron, i have setup samba, i can see my windows computer on the workgroup, but cannot see any windows shares, i am using vista on the other pc
[20:24] <wols_> natjo2: and your gateway is not 0.0.0.0 or you couldn't use the router
[20:24] <wols_> housam1991: what are you trying to do?
[20:24] <afabian> Ward1983: Yes, I did.
[20:25] <Ward1983> afabian, make an image of it with dd, then use photorec on that image to retrieve your data
[20:25] <TroubleHelix> Ddorda, 'chmod 777 <dirname>', but you might want to read up on chmod, with 'man chmod'
[20:25] <Ironeye> Hi, how can I restore my system to factory settings. as i want to remove everything and start over with windows
[20:25] <PeterP24> hi, I have a gcc related question -> when i use free() function to delete some dynamically allocated pointer I obtain the following error*** glibc detected *** ./a.out: free(): invalid pointer: and a bunch of memory adresses
[20:25] <afabian> Ward1983: I don't really care about the data.  I can't seem to figure out what the device is.  It's not /dev/sdc, apparently..?
[20:25] <wols_> enterneo: samba is not used to mount vista shares at all. smbfs/cifs is
[20:26] <natjo2> wols_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19121/
[20:26] <wols_> PeterP24: ##C
[20:26] <Cliph> Hi, I'm building a meta-dpkg and it has a bunch of dependencies that are also available in my repository, when I try installing <my-meta-package> I get a message about some of my dependencies stating "Depends: <other dependency> but it is not going to be installed"
[20:26] <PeterP24> ?
[20:26] <wols_> natjo2: you do not use your router. why is there a ppp0 in there?
[20:26] <Cliph> I don't understand this message
[20:26] <Cliph> Here is a pastebin of the output and my control file: http://pastebin.com/d1efb6512
[20:26] <enterneo> wols_: how do i go about it?
[20:26] <wiijii> can someone tell me how to turn off join/leave messages plz?
[20:26] <Cliph> And here is a pastebin of apt-cache policy <my-meta-package>: http://pastebin.com/d7e10ae2b
[20:26] <PdUb101> question about compiz fusion please, when i first installed the cube it let me hold down left and right mouse buttons and ic ould drag the cube around, but now its my mouse wheel.. how would i get it back to the mouse buttons?
[20:27] <natjo2> wols_: because the only way i can connect to the internet is using sudo pppoeconf
[20:27] <PeterP24> ah the C irc chanel ok; I'm not used to your notations here in the chat
[20:27] <Kremlin[NA]> Hello, I just upgraded to 8.04 and when idle in system monitor my CPU usage is about 70%, thou no Processes are taking anything above 2%... Can anyone tell me what is happening?
[20:27] <wols_> enterneo: you talk about gnome. I don't know there
[20:27] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: heh, this isn't exactly the channel for that, but do you have a factory restore CD? Or some kind of cd that came with the system to restore it to original settings? Otherwise, do you have a restore partition on your hard drive that came with a system restore thing installed to it?
[20:27] <wiijii> use compiz-config-settings?
[20:27] <wols_> natjo2: then you bypass your router
[20:27] <Cliph> /ignore #ubuntu JOIN PART QUITS
[20:27] <mortal1> has anyone here ever installed a telnet server? (yes I know it's horribly insecure, yes I know ssh is better)
[20:27] <Ward1983> is there a good asterisk tutorial / howto anywhere out there? google doesnt seem to come up with anything
[20:27] <wiijii> Cliph: thanks
[20:27] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: in system monitor do View all processes and see what is using up the CPU
[20:27] <wols_> Cliph: you don't use apt to install your own packages. use dpkg
[20:27] <mortal1> I installed the telnet server, but I can't seem to start it no matter what I try
[20:28] <Cliph> wols_: I do, I have my own apt repository for this
[20:28] <compubomb> can you compile and install alsa-dev on top of the current alsa driver on ubuntu ?
[20:28] <wols_> Cliph: then it's not set up properly
[20:28] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: by default system monitor only shows you your processes, so you want to see all users processes
[20:28] <enterneo> wols_: "Unfortunately, this may not be true if your grandmother expects to connect to a Windows/SMB/CIFS share. After upgrading, we discovered that we couldn't connect to our corporate servers with 8.04, despite having no problems with 7.10 and previous versions. Upon investigation, this proved due to a known and unfixed bug related to GNOME 2.22's new virtual filing system and Active Directory, which fails to establish authentication properly under various c
[20:28] <natjo2> wols_: so by doing ppoeconf i've bypassed my router and so how can i disable the pppoeconf?
[20:28] <compubomb> i need to install the newest dev package to get my emu 0404 usb 2.0 sound card working.
[20:28] <wiijii> hmm that didn't work, still lots of joins and leaves
[20:28] <wols_> natjo2: don't run pppd
[20:28] <Cliph> wols_: that would seem to be the case, it works in all other cases, and my metapackages were working previously, so I don't understand the message
[20:28] <rampageoberon> wiijii: xchat?
[20:29] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  Its because I upgraded to ubuntu 8.04 and to many things are going wrong. when I try boot windows using the disc it says hard disk drive not found. So as I'm more familiar with windows I would rather go back to that.
[20:29] <wiijii> weechat
[20:29] <wiijii> console
[20:29] <natbet> firefox and other things that use audio won't open/play, how do I see what is locking up the audio device?
[20:29] <rampageoberon> wiijii: sorry no idea
[20:29] <compubomb> i just don't want to install alsa driver on top if it will screw up my system.
[20:29] <wiijii> np
[20:29] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: That's probably not a huge problem?
[20:29] <wols_> Cliph: your new packages are NOT in your repo.end of story. either you put them in or you use dpkg, your choice
[20:29] <Grim76__> wiijii: /ignore * join #ubuntu freenode
[20:29] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: You probably just need to edit the grub line for Windows
[20:29] <wols_> Cliph: and next time come here DIRECTLY
[20:29] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: View -> All processes? there is xord at 7% and vinoserver at 12% thats all
[20:29] <rampageoberon> its still taking 705 CPU Kremlin[NA]
[20:29] <wols_> Cliph: fiddle util apt-cache policy shows a candidate from your repo
[20:29] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  how do i go about doing that?
[20:29] <Cliph> wols_: yes, my debian packages are in the relevant distro of my repository, I know this bwecause I created the new distro
[20:29] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: 70%?
[20:29] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: give us the output of sudo fdisk -l in order to figure out where Windows is actually installed to
[20:30] <Cliph> wols_: look at my output, it does show it
[20:30] <RULR> my outgoing messages in evolution mail not working
[20:30] <Next1> How can I renew my IP address?
[20:30] <Cliph> it shows the very one is says that will not be installed
[20:30] <Grim76__> wiijii: you can substitute part and quit in there for the necessary messages.
[20:30] <wols_> Cliph: it's not the meta package that has to be in ther. ALL, including dependencies have to be
[20:30] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  whats that website i paste it to?
[20:30] <Techiedragon> Ok.. I admit it, I am a serial ubuntu killer ... :(
[20:30] <ASULutzy> !paste | Ironeye
[20:30] <Cliph> wols_: all of my packages are in the repository
[20:30] <wols_> Cliph: and the -gui policy output you showed me DID NOT have it as a candidate
[20:31] <natjo2> wols_: i'm sorry for bugging you but how do i not run pppd wouldn't that disable my internet?
[20:31] <wols_> Cliph: apt-cache policy output for the -gui one then
[20:31] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: yeah it is.. but strangely if I navigate away from the "resources" tab for a bit and then return I can see that when NOT having the resources tab open the CPU % drops to about 20%, but then returns to about 70% when I return to the "resources" tab
[20:31] <wiijii> Grim76_: cheers mate
[20:31] <wols_> natjo2: unisntall pppd
[20:31] <apastinen> hi, i just move from gentoo to ubuntu (hardy), is there "testing" and "unstable" sources like debian had?
[20:31] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/19122/
[20:31] <Pici> apastinen: No. Ubuntu is not a rolling release like Debian is.
[20:31] <pub> anyone use roottail ?
[20:31] <Grim76__> wiijii: Ran into the same things myself...I use weechat for 99% of my irc time.
[20:31] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: You typed it wrong. sudo fdisk -l
[20:31] <Techiedragon> I installed Xorg; or tried to at least; and now when the system boots; it gets to a point where it freezes and I can't do anything.  If I try to reboot into recovery mode I get the same thing.  I can't seem to do much at the grub command linel.
[20:31] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: that's a lowercase L
[20:31] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: in my experience gnome-system-monitor takes a lot of CPU, to try something else install and try using htop in command line
[20:31] <Cliph> wols_: http://pastebin.com/d775b6e79
[20:32] <apastinen> Pici: so i just have to live kernel what i now have?
[20:32] <Techiedragon> What should the grub menu look like for recoverymode?
[20:32] <afabian> apastinen: My impression is that one wanting to run unstable software ought to have some fortitude in reading official documentation and figuring out the development process.  But, anyway, all Linux distributions have some kind of development branch, and you can usually run it.  Ubuntu is no different.
[20:32] <Cliph> Depends: jazinga-gui (>= 1.10.2) but it is not going to be installed
[20:32] <wiijii> Grim76_: yeah irc is pretty much ideally suited to console
[20:32] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  lets try again http://paste.ubuntu.com/19123/
[20:32] <wols_> Cliph: and you still get http://pastebin.com/d3ff76a8b ?
[20:33] <john_> can voice chat is possible in ubuntu 8.04
[20:33] <Next1> How can I "repair" a network connection?
[20:33] <wiijii> Has anyone turned up that knows anything about VTK or visualisation, esp. in Python?
[20:33] <Cliph> wols_: yes
[20:33] <julle_> Is there a solution to why my background disappears when i startup my comp. Yes i have compiz running
[20:33] <Pici> apastinen: The closest thing to a testing repo is -proposed. But thats not really the same thing.  Yes, just the live kernel plus any little patches, not a full version bump
[20:33] <natjo2> wols_: and that is done by going to synaptic?
[20:33] <mortal1> does ubuntu 8.04 have something that keeps it from working correctly with my ata cdrom?
[20:33] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: if I quickly switch between resources and processes tab I can see that it is "Xorg" which is taking all the resources. But as I navigate away Xorg falls to sleep instantly
[20:33] <twiztidmind> is there anyway to get past this X-DOM shit when i download video files, i know it's an encoder but how do i get them to work without buying the decoder
[20:33] <apastinen> afabian: great, so how can i get newer kernel?
[20:33] <wols_> Cliph: I actually don't believe you. ask someone else
[20:33] <mortal1> I mean, i can boot the cd, i can usually start the install, and then it craps out
[20:33] <apastinen> Pici: sounds great..
[20:33] <MrE--> Hey guys. Im new to Ubuntu (installed yesterday), and I was wondering what email server is the best?
[20:33] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: Oh... So you overwrote your Windows partition... Yea, so Windows is completely gone, that's a bummer. Also there's no restore partition on your hard drive. If you want to go back to Windows from here you'll need either a system restore CD that came with your computer, or a Windows install CD.
[20:33] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: yes i get the same from Xorg occassionally, no idea what to do about it
[20:34] <joaopinto> !best | MrE--
[20:34] <john_> how can do voice chat in ubuntu
[20:34] <jtaylor13> group: how do i install this? NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run
[20:34] <unavailable> ironeye do you have a legit key for windows?
[20:34] <Jrz> ./NV......
[20:34] <mortal1> it's kinda a bummer because I was really looking forward to the new lts version, given that 6.06 was so solid
[20:34] <Jrz> or sh NVIDIAxxxxxxxxx
[20:34] <joaopinto> john_, I am only experienced with skype, but there are several voip capable apps, just search on the repositories
[20:34] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  well thats the thing.. i put the windows cd in. it loads all the files then when coming to install it says cannot find hard disk drives , make sure they are pwerd on :s
[20:34] <compubomb> how would someone go about getting extended memmory support in ubuntu ? i'm running the i686 kernel generic, but my system have 4gb of ram, core2duo e6400, i would think it hsould show atleast 3gb of ram, but it only lists 2gb.
[20:34] <twiztidmind> anavailable wich version of windows
[20:34] <apastinen> Pici: btw. thanks anyway :)
[20:34] <john_> k k
[20:35] <Ironeye> unavailable:  whats that?
[20:35] <wols_> compubomb: check for a bigmem kernel
[20:35] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: Strange.. and I guess its only there when the resources tab is open :( Doesnt Xorg have something to do with the graptics? Could I be that I have a custom resolution or bad numbers in my custom res ?
[20:35] <jtaylor13> group: how do i install this? NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run
[20:35] <afabian> apastinen: Someone mentioned proposed.  I'd stay away from messing with the kernel unless you're having a problem.   I'd look in the proposed updates repository, download the deb manually, and install it, rather than updating the proposed repository.
[20:35] <Andri[DK]> Is it possible to remotely change display managers for other users?
[20:35] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: That hard drive is probably a SATA drive, and XP won't install to those without the right drivers
[20:35] <wols_> !nvidia | jtaylor13
[20:35] <krzysztof> Who`s using Compiz Fusion?
[20:35] <afabian> apastinen: Rather than enabling the proposed repository, I mean.
[20:35] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  this pc used to run windows untill i installed windows
[20:35] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: Xorg is pretty much responsible for your desktop (X window sytem)
[20:35] <wols_> Andri[DK]: there is only one display manager for everyone on the system
[20:36] <Ironeye> unavailable:  if you mean a legal windows disc then yes i do
[20:36] <unavailable> asulutzy i have sata, xp mce installed just fine without drivers
[20:36] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: no idea about resoultions
[20:36] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: Right, but XP will not install to a SATA drive from cd without the correct drivers
[20:36] <wols_> Ironeye: this is #ubuntu, not ##windows
[20:36] <wols_> !ot | ASULutzy
[20:36] <natjo2> wols_: when i go to synaptic three things with ppp are installed: ppp, pppconfi, and pppoeconf. do i uninstall all of them?
[20:36] <Tobias92> Openoffice won't launch :(. No response when I click it in the menu, and when I type it in a terminal it just sits there, no output at all.
[20:36] <unavailable> asulutzy i had it work just fine with SATA with no drivers
[20:36] <Ironeye> wols_:  im running ubuntu and it caused more problems than its worth so i can sort issues out in her
[20:36] <wols_> unavailable: this is #ubuntu. please keep on topic
[20:37] <compubomb> wols_: nothing like that exists, i don't see anything involving the words bigmem
[20:37] <wols_> Ironeye: the problem you are discussing right now is not ubuntu
[20:37] <apastinen> afabian: i think i can live with it by setting apt::default something i can't remember it has many years i have use it..
[20:37] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: Ahh ok, just seems so strange.. I dont want to CPu working at 70% 24/7 when its a server and is never turned off
[20:37] <Andri[DK]> wols: what I mean is that if i'm root. Can I make the user run the program on his own desktop. F.e. if I wan't to change window managers when battery power is initiated
[20:37] <compubomb> i did apt-cache search kernel | grep "bigmem"
[20:37] <compubomb> nothing.
[20:37] <wols_> compubomb: what videocard(s) do you have? how much memory?
[20:37] <afabian> apastinen: If you just want to enable proposed, there's a checkbox in the Synaptic options to do it.
[20:37] <joaopinto> Ironeye, so either you post your Ubuntu problems here or you join ##windows for your windows problems
[20:37] <compubomb> wols_: my pc has 4gb of ram, i have 2 7600gt video cards in sli
[20:37] <wols_> Andri[DK]: I don't get what you mean
[20:37] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: if its a pure server you don't need the gui, see ubuntu server
[20:37] <Ironeye> wols_:  since installing it i have had no end of problems, if someone here can help then where is the harm
[20:37] <stu_> hi, how can I determine which driver/module is enabling a USB device? I want to remove it and replace it with a new driver
[20:37] <ASULutzy> wols_, Ironeye, unavailable: Sorry, just trying to help someone out. @unavailable, that's why it breaks during setup and says "Push f8 to install custom drivers" or whatever. But yea, sorry this topic is out of the scope of #ubuntu I suppose. Ironeye if you want to pm me I suppose I could and help you from there, but Windows in general is fussy about what you install it to. The reason it's saying it doesn't detect any hard drives is becau
[20:38] <wols_> compubomb: I mean videocard ram
[20:38] <Andri[DK]> wols: I'm trying to write a acpi script that kills compiz when I'm on battery power but I also need it to start metacity
[20:38] <apastinen> afabian: eh.. ok i try to find it.. i don't normally like this graphical ui..
[20:38] <compubomb> wols_: 512mb i believe
[20:38] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: my computer is never turned off too, it does take a lot of cpu occassionally but not alwaus
[20:38] <compubomb> wols_: i don't care about the video card memmory, i want my PC memmory to show up greater than 2gb
[20:38] <Next1> sudo dhclient
[20:38] <wols_> Andri[DK]: root can become any user and start stuff as this user. so your script could too
[20:38] <compubomb> wols_: i have 4gb of ddr2 pc800 ram.
[20:38] <afabian> apastinen: If you really want to, you can uncomment the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and update your sources.. however you do it.  With aptitude, or whatever.
[20:38] <compubomb> it should show atleast 3gb or something.
[20:39] <wols_> compubomb: I don't care about what you say either then. have a nice day
[20:39] <compubomb> wols_: :/
[20:39] <linuxkrn> I'm getting a ton of unknown symbol errors when I try to load the rt73usb driver, how can I update/reinstall for the kernel I'm using? (2.6.24-18-generic)
[20:39] <Andri[DK]> wols: and i'm aware how to do that in a terminal, just not how to start it in X
[20:39] <keri> im using xubuntu and when i plugged in my kodak easyshare c433 camera to the usb port, nothing showed up, neither did anytning as a drive.  what do i need to install to get this to pick up my pictures?
[20:39] <ZenoTorando> hello guys can somebody help me with an WLAN question?
[20:39] <Techiedragon> How do I get back to a promot so I can fix the problem
[20:39] <wols_> Andri[DK]: set the DISPLAY environment variable and start the X program you want to run
[20:39] <compubomb> wols_: my intention was not to upset you, i don't know how my video card has anything to do with the pc ram.
[20:39] <antirobotrobot> how can i get the latest firefox on ubunto?
[20:39] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  you have pm
[20:40] <afabian> apastinen: Actually, there are no lines to uncomment.  You'd have to add them.  you'd just use hardy-proposed as the distribution.  man sources.list should clue you in on the file format.
[20:40] <wols_> antirobotrobot: hardy has 3.0rcsomething. this is not new enough for you?
[20:40] <joaopinto> wols_, how would is video card turn a 4 GB mem system into 2 GB, would you care to explain ?
[20:40] <bayko7> Hello, I need to install the drivers for my radeon x600 but the drivers off the site cause my xserver to not start
[20:40] <wols_> joaopinto: yes I would care. use google
[20:40] <keri> im using xubuntu and when i plugged in my kodak easyshare c433 camera to the usb port, nothing showed up, neither did anytning as a drive.  what do i need to install to get this to pick up my pictures?
[20:40] <ZenoTorando> I've a WLAN with an 13 keys HEX encryption but UBUNTO doesn't accept it...how can I get the right sttings
[20:40] <Techiedragon> I get the same thing in recovery mode.  - setting up console font and key map... then -runit  leave stage: /etc/runit/1
[20:40] <joaopinto> wols_, if are not helpfull, please leave, you are not forced to be here
[20:41] <wols_> joaopinto: have your way
[20:41] <bayko7>  Hello, I need to install the drivers for my radeon x600 but the drivers off the site cause my xserver to not start
[20:41] <Techiedragon> - runit: enter stage: /etc/runit/2
[20:41] <Techiedragon> then the system becomes unresponsive
[20:41] <antirobotrobot> wols_: i thought there might be an apt source for the very latest
[20:41] <apastinen> afabian: it seems that those are already uncommented.. maby i did something at day for it.. well anyway thanks, but i still kernel still does not work with my wlan, there is some patches to fix it but i dont want play that game..
[20:41] <apastinen> afabian: thanks anyway
[20:41] <afabian> apastinen: Ah, sorry I couldn't help . Good luck with the problem.
[20:41] <ZenoTorando> ﻿I've a WLAN with an 13 keys HEX encryption but UBUNTO doesn't accept it...how can I get the right sttings
[20:41] <nonone> hi all
[20:41] <Noodels> Hi, I've tracked a wireless+crashing issue to an irq problem. Is there a way I can fix this?
[20:41] <bayko7>  Hello, I need to install the drivers for my radeon x600 but the drivers off the site cause my xserver to not start
[20:42] <wols_> bayko7: which drivers exactly?
[20:42] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: I know I dont but Im a total linux noob go I have the gui for configuring things hehe
[20:42] <wols_> Noodels: reseat the card into another slot
[20:42] <bayko7> the linux drivers for my x600 off the ati website
[20:42] <laughtear> i need the name of the most succesful dvd burning software i can install by add/remove (to back up a recovery dvd)
[20:42] <bayko7> fglrx drivers
[20:42] <Noodels> wols_: Can I do that? It's a laptop.
[20:42] <ASULutzy> bayko7: Have you tried using EnvyNG?
[20:42] <Odd-rationale> laughtear: k3b or brasero
[20:42] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: fair enough but the server OS was made with no gui for a very good security reason
[20:43] <bayko7> I'm not sure how to go abbout installing with envy
[20:43] <wols_> Noodels: then you can't. but I don't think it's a irq problem either
[20:43] <spdf> bayko7: Have you tried using the restricted drivers application?
[20:43] <bayko7> yes
[20:43] <kerin> IS it possible to prevent installing "extra" packages?
[20:43] <Noodels> wols_: I'll get the /proc/interrupts and ask you what you think?
[20:43] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: and the best way to learn is to use the command line, as using the gui is never the solution
[20:43] <wols_> bayko7: when it fails and gets black, pastebin your Xorg.0.log file
[20:43] <ASULutzy> bayko7: Just google EnvyNG, it'll be like, the first search result
[20:43] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: Its only for personal NAS storage and private ftp.. all other ports are locked anyway so I dont think anyone would hack it anyway
[20:43] <natjo2> wols_: you didn't answer my question earlier about uninstalling pppd where do i go to do it and how
[20:43] <laughtear> Odd-rationale: ok, i know brasero, but this dvd of "hp" is protected one, probably so brasero could not make it... any alternative else?
[20:43] <wols_> natjo2: yes
[20:43] <bayko7> I'll try envy and get back to you guys, thanks a bunch
[20:43] <ASULutzy> bayko7: You should probably paste your Xorg.0.log file, and maybe dmesg has something or another
[20:44] <keri> im using xubuntu and when i plugged in my kodak easyshare c433 camera to the usb port, nothing showed up, neither did anytning as a drive.  what do i need to install to get this to pick up my pictures?
[20:44] <wols_> natjo2: the answer is yes. but: you will lose internet the at first
[20:44] <ASULutzy> bayko7: But yea, EnvyNG usually works
[20:44] <ZenoTorando> ﻿I've a WLAN with an 13 keys HEX encryption but UBUNTO doesn't accept it...how can I get the right sttings
[20:44] <bayko7> ok thank you ASULutzy
[20:44] <afabian> kerin: What are "extra" packages?
[20:44] <Starnestommy> ZenoTorando: what kind of hex encryption, wpa, wep, or something else?
[20:44] <Odd-rationale> laughtear: well, if libdvdcss2 from the medibuntu repo cannot unencrypt it then mostly likely no...
[20:45] <natjo2> wols_: so all three pppoeconf, pppconfig, and ppp
[20:45] <ZenoTorando> @Starnestommy HEX
[20:45] <ZenoTorando> WEP
[20:45] <kerin> afabian: like, when i try to install wget it says "the following extra packages will be installed:"
[20:45] <keri> does kodak cameras not get autodetected in xubuntu?
[20:45] <enterneo1> has anyone been able to mount windows shares over hardy heron successfully?
[20:45] <laughtear> Odd-rationale: arr.. that's a little bit complicated for an amateur user like me...:)
[20:45] <wols_> ZenoTorando: since WEP is totally useless, either use WPA or no encryption
[20:45] <Starnestommy> kerin: it installs other packages needed by that one
[20:46] <Techiedragon> wep can be cracked in under 3 mins
[20:46] <premier> whats that program/deamon that monitors windows and alter/set their size and other characteristics?
[20:46] <Noodels> wols_: Here is the line: 5: 471 XT-PIC-XT Intel 82801DB-ICH4, bcm43xx
[20:46] <ZenoTorando> i know i know but some older clients doesnt accept WPA so I've to use the WEP at the moment
[20:46] <wols_> laughtear: recovery DVDs are not movies. they are not encrypted withz CSS. just use any DVD software you find
[20:46] <Uplink> whats the command to check my kernel version?
[20:46] <Techiedragon> wpa2 - several million years
[20:46] <wols_> bayko7: so?
[20:46] <keri> does kodak cameras not get autodetected in xubuntu?
[20:46] <Starnestommy> Uplink: uname -r
[20:46] <keri> nobodyu is helping me
[20:46] <joaopinto> Uplink, uname -a
[20:46] <Noodels> Uplink: uname -r
[20:46] <laughtear> wols_: thanks a lot...
[20:46] <wols_> Noodels: so? PCI can have many devices sharing an IRC
[20:46] <wols_> *IRQ
[20:46] <joaopinto> keri, maybe because we have no kodak cam :) ?
[20:47] <Uplink> ty ty
[20:47] <wols_> Noodels: did you get the bcm firmware from the windows driver?
[20:47] <keri> well at least i know this works
[20:47] <keri> im using xubuntu and when i plugged in my kodak easyshare c433 camera to the usb port, nothing showed up, neither did anytning as a drive.  what do i need to install to get this to pick up my pictures?
[20:47] <Noodels> wols_: Yes, but I can show you lines from the error log when it tries to use the card if you like. But if you have any better ideas of where to look, I'd gladly listen to your advice.
[20:47] <K3rl0u4rn> i people, I am running xubuntu 7.10 and trying to run ubuntu server 8.10 in qemu 0.9.0
[20:47] <K3rl0u4rn> the installation procedure fails to detect the cdrom drive
[20:47] <K3rl0u4rn> did anyone got this problem before ?
[20:47] <wols_> Noodels: so what does the error log say?
[20:47] <Noodels> wols_: Give me a minute.
[20:47] <datapolitical> if I've got a linux driver for my motherboard (Asus PK5) I should have no trouble using a raid array as a storage partition, correct?
[20:48] <datapolitical> I just have to load the driver, my question is when during setup do I do that
[20:48] <Doug_-_-_-_> i need help getting my dual monitor to work in xp home. please
[20:48] <wols_> datapolitical: no. you have a fake raid. what you have is not a raid controller. use linux software raid
[20:48] <wols_> Doug_-_-_-_: ##windows
[20:48] <joaopinto> Doug_-_-_-_, try ##windows
[20:49] <datapolitical> has anyone in here worked with Raid 5 using a hardware controller?
[20:49] <Doug_-_-_-_> wols_, i try but it wants me to register my nick first,
[20:49] <Starnestommy> !register | Doug_-_-_-_
[20:49] <wols_> Doug_-_-_-_: then do it. we cannot help you
[20:49] <bayko7> can anyone tell me how to install the envy I downloaded the 2 .tar.gz files, not sure where to go from here
[20:49] <wols_> datapolitical: do you have a hardware controller? your mobo raid isn't one and there exists no linux driver for it either
[20:50] <wols_> !envy | bayko7
[20:50] <Doug_-_-_-_> wols_,  every email i use it sayes not working.
[20:50] <Floggin> I can't seem to get Pidgin to use ( nickserv <register> <Nick> <password>)
[20:50] <Noodels> wols_: This isn't an error I could make anything of, but this is one of the related errors, can you make anything of it? - bcm43xx: TODO: Incomplete code in keymac_write() at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_main.c:1112
[20:50] <Floggin> HELP
[20:50] <afancy> Hi, when all of my opened windows were hide, how can I make it not hide?
[20:50] <wols_> Doug_-_-_-_: go to #freenode then
[20:50] <Flare183> Floggin: ask in #freenode
[20:50] <Qnix> Floggin: i would like to help you but i have never use pidgin
[20:50] <Starnestommy> Floggin: open a chat with nickserv, then tell it "register <password> <email>"
[20:50] <afancy> now I just can switch windows by Alt+tab
[20:50] <wols_> Noodels: FULL log please. and not pasting in here, pastebin instead
[20:50] <Qnix> Floggin: why don't you use xchat or irssi
[20:50] <Doug_-_-_-_> wols_,  i am using freenode.
[20:51] <Flare183> ....
[20:51] <afancy> anybody help me??
[20:51] <Qnix> Floggin: Xchat is much much better than pidgin in my opinion
[20:51] <Flare183> !anyone | afancy
[20:51] <wols_> Doug_-_-_-_: #freenode is a channel name. now please go there. you don't have a ubuntu question
[20:51] <Noodels> wols_: Need an irc on the laptop now, give me a few minutes, and what is this pastebin?
[20:51] <premier> whats that program/deamon that monitors windows and alter/set their size and other characteristics?
[20:51] <wols_> !paste | Noodels
[20:51] <Dasmoover> hello, i uninstalled wine with sudo apt-get remove --purge wine, then i reinstalled it and my settings are there and nothing will run, can anyone help?
[20:51] <Floggin> thanks Fellas/Gals
[20:51] <Qnix> ubottu: ^__^ heheh
[20:51] <Floggin> so "register <password> <email> behind the /nickserv
[20:52] <datapolitical> wols, Asus lists a linux driver for the motherboard
[20:52] <afancy> ubottu:what do u mean
[20:52] <wols_> Dasmoover: wine has a ~/.wine directory for each user that used it. delete that too
[20:52] <lightrush> I need someone for testing with Intel/NVIDIA lappie - preferably DELL with problems with SUSPEND/RESUME
[20:52] <Dasmoover> wols: i did that and after a reinstall, it never remakes itself.
[20:52] <bayko7> when I type sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk it says cant find package
[20:52] <wols_> datapolitical: if you don't believe me fine. but you're still wrong. please don't talk to me anymore. good bye
[20:52] <Qnix> afancy: he means if you have a question you have to searcg for it first then ask here if you didn't find the answer
[20:52] <Floggin> Light that is a drive compatablitity  issue
[20:53] <wols_> Dasmoover: purge ALL wine packages again, delete .wine and try again
[20:53] <afancy> where to search??
[20:53] <afancy> google
[20:53] <Dasmoover> ok, what are all them called?
[20:53] <joaopinto> datapolitical, a mother board driver does not imply RAID support
[20:53] <Floggin> there is a minor bug that happens on my GoVideo 6150 Chipset at times while in XP
[20:53] <datapolitical> a raid driver
[20:53] <datapolitical> for the motherboard
[20:53] <rafae1> Hello, I am having some strange problems. I installed ubuntu, them copied to this computer the contents of my previous home folder, includen the hidden files inside my actual home folder. I don' t know exactly if my problems began at this point, cause I' ve already deleted all my hidden files and nothing. I have some strange behaviours. One is in my themes, I can' t change the window border colour, that is the same blue from my previous XFCE theme in th
[20:53] <datapolitical> scuse me
[20:54] <datapolitical> i'm wrong
[20:54] <Floggin> So will this syntax "  Floggin: open a chat with nickserv, then tell it "register <password> <email>  " while using gamesurge too if it will
[20:54] <Lynet> datapolitical: Most, if not all, "motherboard raid" is really software raid; the raid part is in the windows driver.
[20:54] <Qnix> rafae1: your having the problem because you copied your .* files that effects your theme and lots of other things
[20:55] <rafae1> Yes, but I already deleted. Created another user, and nothing. Maybe I messed something besides my home folder?
[20:55] <afancy> Hi, In ubuntu, when i minimize a window, it will hide automatically. How to make it not hide? thanks
[20:55] <afancy> does anyone meet this problem?
[20:55] <afancy> sorry, I cannot find the ansower by google
[20:56] <Starnestommy> afancy: make sure that the window list applet is on the panel
[20:56] <rafae1> Qnix: I thought creating another user would reset it, but no...
[20:56] <Floggin> that is because google sucks
[20:56] <rafae1> Qnix. Alos deleted all hidden files from roots home
[20:56] <Floggin> try using a real engine www.dogpile.com
[20:56] <Floggin> if it doesn't find it then your lost ont eh search
[20:56] <joaopinto> !language | Floggin
[20:56] <afancy> Starnestommy: what is the window list applet?
[20:57] <stemount^> joaopinto: harsh
[20:57] <datapolitical> i take it back, its a seperate raid card
[20:57] <joaopinto> afancy, when you mean, the app hides, does it get listed on the app list window ?
[20:57] <Floggin> Watch my language  what
[20:57] <ompaul> joaopinto, it is a web site
[20:57] <Qnix> rafae1: :S why!!
[20:57] <Noodels> The pastebin, when I put a syslog in there, do I put the whole syslog or just the necessary bits?
[20:57] <Starnestommy> afancy: right click on a panel, select "add to panel", then look for "window list", select it, then hit the "add" button
[20:57] <wols_> datapolitical: what chip?
[20:57] <Qnix> rafae1: deleting the hidden file will restart them and everything will be default in the next login
[20:58] <rafae1> Qnix, Yes, but didn' t work for me. I still get only blue window border, instead of normal human colours
[20:58] <rafae1> Qnix, and this strange behaviour applies to others themes...
[20:58] <joaopinto> ompaul, I am aware of that, but stating that "google sucks" is not a website, and is not helpfull either
[20:59] <afancy> Ok, thanks
[20:59] <snmpee> I'm looking for a GUI tool that will let me combine, splice and otherwise manipulate videos, most specifically FLV's
[20:59] <rafae1> Qnix I created a new user also, and this new user gets only bl;ue colours... Besides this problem of not beeing able to set my keybindings, wich I don' t know if are realted
[20:59] <jack__> #luban
[20:59] <pen> how do I force evdev to detect /dev/input/event2 again after boot?
[20:59] <Qnix> rafae1: i think its related ...
[21:00] <wols_> joaopinto: can you help people too?
[21:00] <datapolitical> yea, it's on the board, nm
[21:00] <carpediem> Hello all again
[21:00] <datapolitical> is it worth getting a raid card
[21:00] <andre> high guys
[21:00] <datapolitical> if i want to use the machine to store a shitload worth of data
[21:00] <wols_> datapolitical: depends on usage
[21:00] <rafae1> Qnix - is there a deeper why to restore the default settings than creating new user. Tried reinstallation of numerous packages, as human theme, metacity, etc. But still nothing
[21:00] <datapolitical> and not have it fail
[21:00] <Crane> hello
[21:00] <carpediem> guys, I have installed ubuntu and I had problems with my display so I used "metacity --replace" to turn compiz off
[21:00] <carpediem> but how do I remove compiz?
[21:00] <ompaul> !language | datapolitical
[21:00] <carpediem> and use metacity by default?
[21:01] <andre> I can't play any audio or video files :(  can anyone help?
[21:01] <wols_> datapolitical:  a software raid is more reliable actually
[21:01] <datapolitical> ah
[21:01] <datapolitical> using, i forget what it's called
[21:01] <Crane> Man sound problems are a pain.
[21:01] <joaopinto> rafae1, if creating a new user didn't help, than you changed system wide settings...
[21:01] <wols_> if a raidcard fails you need the exact same card again
[21:01] <Qnix> rafae1: heheheh i don't know acctually im a GUIless dude , thats why im using irssi :D
[21:01] <ompaul> datapolitical, note that the disks are the main point that might fail if your raid card goes you got problems big problems single point of failure
[21:01] <datapolitical> yea
[21:01] <rafae1> :)
[21:01] <datapolitical> so here's the config I want
[21:01] <rafae1> So what should I do?? Any step before having to install all over again
[21:01] <ompaul> !enter | datapolitical
[21:02] <wols_> datapolitical: with linux softtware raid you just reinstall the OS on another machine
[21:02] <datapolitical> right now i have 6 drives in the machine, all running raid 5
[21:02] <datapolitical> ah
[21:02] <datapolitical> oka
[21:02] <datapolitical> hehe
[21:02] <FloodBot1> datapolitical: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:02] <Qnix> rafae1: :D hope you'll find someone to help you .. or just get the important file and use windows :P LOL or reinstall deb
[21:02] <rafae1> I also work without gui in gentoo, but sometimes I use image editing programs...
[21:02] <wols_> datapolitical: stop that entiering already
[21:02] <Qnix> rafae1: ;)
[21:02] <wols_> rafae1: libcaca0 to the rescue then and you never have to leave CLI!
[21:02] <datapolitical> anyway, I'd like to (sorry about the entering) set up 4 drives in raid 5 as storage, one as a boot drive for windows, one as a boot drive for ubuntu (each drive is 250GB)
[21:02] <Qnix> rafae1: i used to work on gentoo for a long time ... i love it!!! it wastes the whole day in installing things on it :P LOL!!
[21:03] <pen> if I use evdev, the hotplug function does not work
[21:03] <pen> how do I make it work with hotplug?
[21:03] <ompaul> !lol | Qnix
[21:03] <wols_> datapolitical:  doesn't answers the question: what do you want to do with the raid
[21:03] <Qnix> ompaul: :P
[21:03] <rafae1> wols: what is licaca0
[21:03] <Qnix> ubottu: okey sorry bot
[21:03] <wols_> rafae1: libcaca. look it up
[21:03] <rafae1> ok
[21:03] <datapolitical> wols, I'd like to use it to store all the data I'd like to access in both windows and ubuntu (movies, music, etc)
[21:04] <wols_> datapolitical: not gonna happen
[21:04] <Qnix> rafae1: libcaca0
[21:04] <jenda> Any tips in salvaging data from a corrupt .doc file? Opening with OO.org results with "ASCII Filter Options" and then a "could not read data from file", while cat results in some text, then some jibberish and then an I/O error
[21:04] <Qnix> rafae1: its a library to support caca in some multimedia players like mplayer libcaca views videos in ASII
[21:04] <Qnix> rafae1: ASCII
[21:05] <wols_> jenda: file <file you want to open>
[21:05] <Lynet> datapolitical: Windows can't read a linux software-raid, so your best bet there is to set the raid up in Windows and then use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto to see if you can access the raid from Linux.
[21:05] <datapolitical> hm
[21:05] <Noodels> wols_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19128/
[21:05] <wols_> datapolitical: ideally you buy yourself something like an icybox and put it under your table
[21:06] <Noodels> Is that right? I wasn't sure whether to put the whole thing or not.
[21:06] <jenda> wols_: that just outputs "data"
[21:06] <snmpee> Lynet i think it's a fair statement to say that hardware raid is generally preferable
[21:06] <wols_> Noodels: un  6 16:33:16 amanda-laptop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (wlan1/wireless): association took too long (>60s), failing activation.
[21:06] <Lynet> datapolitical: But as wols_ said, the best solution is probably to separate the storage to a separate box and access it over the network. Will remove any worries about which file syustem you should use on the raid.
[21:06] <joseph> hi all. how do i change my login screen?
[21:06] <wols_> jenda: doesn't look like it's a OOo file then
[21:07] <andre> !askthebot help
[21:07] <datapolitical> yea
[21:07] <datapolitical> what's a good external box to put the drives in?
[21:07] <datapolitical> Icy
[21:07] <Noodels> wols_: Works fine for all the wireless devices running windows in the house.
[21:07] <joseph> hi all. how do i change my login screen?
[21:07] <snmpee> joseph you're asking the wrong question. What needs changing about it?
[21:07] <joseph> i just want it to look nicer
[21:07] <datapolitical> (icy, but which box?)
[21:07] <rafae1> Ok, i will see it latter. But for restoring siustems setting in ubuntu no clue? Thought just reinstalling packages would be a solution bu t nope
[21:07] <snmpee> joseph you mean a different wallpaper or something?
[21:07] <joseph> ya
[21:08] <jenda> wols_: it's a damaged .doc - the computer froze during the saving (for other reasons)
[21:08] <snmpee> joseph have you bothered trying google yet?
[21:08] <nickrud> !google | snmpee
[21:08] <SeaBass> yes and i got a website with themes, however most dont even work so i was wondering if there was a way to make my own
[21:09] <snmpee> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Tweaking_Ubuntu_Themes_wallpapers_icons_and_fonts
[21:09] <andre> I can't play any audio or video files :(  can anyone help?  but youtube works...
[21:09] <wols_> jenda: then let's hope you have backups
[21:09] <fserve> how i can make a upgrade to use intrepid ibex?
[21:09] <wols_> !avi | andre
[21:09] <jenda> wols_: hehe :)
[21:09] <wols_> jenda: no laughing matter. I am serious
[21:09] <joaopinto> fserve, try #ubuntu+1
[21:09] <noishe> is there a way to kick X back to the origianl xorg.conf that installed. the joys of nvidia seem to have messed it all up and nvidia-settings refuses to run even after doing what it tells me to do. the drivers installed fine, and effects worked. until try'n to make the second monitor work.
[21:09] <rafae1> I get this at .xsessionerrors
[21:10] <rafae1>  /usr/share/themes/Darklooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:181: Invalid symbolic color 'tooltip_bg_color'
[21:10] <wols_> Noodels: for starters don't use ndiswrapper. your chip is now supported directly with thelinux kernel
[21:10] <jenda> wols_: I understood ;) There isn't much you can do other than laugh :)
[21:10] <datapolitical> will NTFS work with ubuntu
[21:10] <datapolitical> or should i use fat32
[21:10] <Noodels> wols_: I shouldn't be using it. I used the fwcutter method.
[21:10] <wols_> jenda: I didn't laugh. you did
[21:10] <wols_> Noodels: you should
[21:10] <joaopinto> datapolitical, NTFS will work
[21:10] <wols_> datapolitical: ntfs-3g works fine
[21:10] <ASULutzy> datapolitical: You mean for storage right? NTFS works fine for that
[21:11] <sofiankrt> how do I make ps output only the pid?
[21:11] <fserve> joaopinto, thank ya
[21:11] <datapolitical> ASUlutzy yes, for storage
[21:11] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, man ps :)
[21:11] <Noodels> wols: I mean, is the ndiswrapper on? I used the fwcutter method.
[21:11] <jenda> wols_: sure, I meant, there's nothing much _I_ can do other than laugh. Anyway, thanks for the help :)
[21:11] <wols_> Noodels: do not use ndiswrappre. it's not needed anymore
[21:11] <nickrud> sofiankrt, pidof works well for that
[21:11] <wols_> jenda: you can try to get ascii from the file with strings for example
[21:12] <Noodels> wols_: Well I'm not aware that I'm using it, hold on a moment while I put lsmod into the pastebin.
[21:12] <jenda> wols_: how? cat reports an I/O error
[21:12] <sofiankrt> nickrud: thanks
[21:12] <wols_> Noodels: Jun  6 16:32:16 amanda-laptop NetworkManager: <info>  Using plain AP_SCAN 2 for ndiswrapper
[21:13] <wols_> jenda: then check your disk with smartmontools. you might have a bad harddisk
[21:13] <Noodels> wols_: >_>' Is that the problem?
[21:13] <mystery_> can any show me how to get to the compiz forum
[21:13] <wols_> Noodels: can be
[21:13] <Industries> [16:12] <Industries> Is it possible to build a cheap $100 gaming rig if you already have some parts?
[21:13] <Industries> [16:12] <Industries> I mainly want to play The Orange Box since I bought it and it won't play on my Mac.
[21:13] <snmpee> what's some cool new software that i might not be aware of as far as organizational utilities
[21:13] <Noodels> wols_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19130/
[21:13] <wols_> Industries: wrong channel. go to #hardware
[21:14] <Industries> wols_, thanks
[21:14] <andre> wols_: yes will use free formats :)
[21:14] <sofiankrt> nickrud: one more thing, if I do    ps -e | grep ftp      the output will give me all the details of the process which have 'ftp' in their names, such as vsftpd, but pidof doesn't seem to do that
[21:14] <Noodels> wols_: Index 26
[21:14] <jenda> wols_: nope, that's not the reason - saving the file was interrupted. Anyway, I salvaged part of it with cat, the rest I'll leave. Thanks for the tips :)
[21:14] <mute1> is there anyway to sort by popularity in kubuntu's adept?  i can do it w/ ubuntu, but not kubuntu
[21:14] <wols_> adama: what "free" ones will you use? not many out there...
[21:14] <sofiankrt> nickrud: processes*
[21:14] <wols_> Noodels: yes. "0". means "NOT USED"
[21:14] <mystery_> Hello all
[21:14] <wols_> Noodels: 43 ndiswrapper           192920  0
[21:14] <andre> !mp3
[21:15] <Noodels> wols_: Oh.. Bugger..
[21:15] <mystery_> Does anyone know how to use sky dome
[21:15] <wols_> Noodels: in your logs there is ndiswrapper showing, period
[21:15] <mystery_> on compiz
[21:15] <wols_> !compiz | mystery_
[21:15] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, if you are trying to get the pids from all ftp processes: ps -ef | grep ftp | awk ' {print $2}'
[21:15] <Noodels> wols_: So then I need to disable it. Modprobe can blacklist it right?
[21:15] <wols_> andre: mp3 is not free either
[21:16] <snmpee> Tip that might save you an hour: if your sound is off when you upgrade to Hardy, check to see if the "Front" slider in ALSAmixer is turned all the way down. For some reason it did that to me on the upgrade
[21:16] <nickrud> sofiankrt, sounds right, pidof is intended to get the pid (what you asked for)
[21:17] <b4dreligion> hi all
[21:17] <b4dreligion> need some help
[21:17] <sofiankrt> nickrud: but if I search for ftp, it won't give me vsftpd, gftp etc, just ftp, right?
[21:17] <snmpee> Is it safe to say it's best to uninstall the nvidia driver before upgrading to Hardy?
[21:17] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: thanks! what does the awk part do?
[21:18] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, it parses the line into parameters (space delimited), and it prints the second parameter (which is the pid)
[21:18] <b4dreligion> ive made the download of ubunto but when i try to install the loader keeps loading for 5 minutes and then it appears a black screen with  letters
[21:18] <Noodels> wols_: A line a just found in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, is this important?: blacklist bcm43xx
[21:18] <snmpee> i <3 that Hardy plays flash videos on AMD64 without a special hack
[21:18] <wols_> snmpee: depends on the driver. if you installed it the ubuntu way, it will be fine. if you didn#t all bets are off
[21:18] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: is there a simpler way of getting the pid?
[21:19] <snmpee> wols_ hahahaha the ubuntu way doesn't give you the latest drivers with better accelleration in WINE games, so no.
[21:19] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, erm, using awk is simple, and a regular way to do it
[21:19] <wols_> snmpee: you are a bit mistaken. but to be expected
[21:19] <nickrud> sofiankrt, phonr
[21:19] <nox-Hand> Hey
[21:20] <dublpaws> I'm upgrading from gutsy to 8.04, the installer reports a popup "Could not install <some-package-name>" a disheartening number of times. maybe 1/8 of all packages. Is this normal?
[21:20] <nox-Hand> Are there any tools that make it easy to rip video from a DVI camera available on Ubuntu repos?
[21:20] <prower> Is it just me or does the updated Firefox seem to have a lot of trouble rendering sites all of a sudden? I've seen weird rendering errors on Facebook, Hotmail, GMail, Slashdot a few other sites
[21:20] <snmpee> wols_ updating very seldom gives me the latest nvidia driver man it's a version off usually
[21:20] <wols_> dublpaws: what packages exactly and where did they come from?
[21:20] <wols_> snmpee: please stop talking to me
[21:20] <dublpaws> wols_: all over the board.
[21:20] <sofiankrt> nickrud: what's phonr?
[21:21] <andre> wols_: yes I'm aware, will convert them...
[21:21] <snmpee> wols_: please don't be rude.
[21:21] <wols_> dublpaws: I am not psychic so I cannot know what their names are. stop talking to me until you can actually answer the posed question
[21:21] <nickrud> sofiankrt, typo, on phone at work (on hold at the sec, brb)
[21:21] <dublpaws> ssl-cert, cupsys, .. are the most recent wols_
[21:21] <wols_> snmpee: I said "please". and it would be really good manners if you actually followed the polite request
[21:21] <dublpaws> wols_: then don't help. I was wondering if it was typical.
[21:22] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: do I use back ticks or single quotes?
[21:22] <wols_> dublpaws: that is strange since those are ubuntu core packages
[21:22] <wols_> dublpaws: check with apt-cache policy if your local apt knows about them
[21:22] <joaopinto> wobblywu, single quotes
[21:22] <joaopinto> erm, i mean sofiankrt
[21:22] <wobblywu> joaopinto, thanks :)
[21:22] <snmpee> wols_: please stop talking to me i thought you wanted to end the conversation. my goodness and heavens to betsy were you born in a stable
[21:22] <wobblywu> ;P
[21:22] <orgthingy> why Portable drivers are read only??
[21:23] <orgthingy> how can i solve this problem?
[21:23] <wols_> orgthingy: what filesystem?
[21:23] <orgthingy> wols_what do u mean by "filesystem"
[21:23] <Ro_meo_> I have the intel GMA X3100 vga and just installed 804 - read ubuntuforum and my problem is : How to activate the DVI and VGA outputs... I cannot choose the 2 monitors with resapplet because one of the screens go blank. Monitors are 1650x1050 and 1024x768
[21:23] <Noodels> wols_: If I replaced the line in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist blacklist bcm43xx and replaced it with blacklist ndiswrapper, it should work?
[21:24] <wols_> !filesystem
[21:24] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: can I just ps -e | grep fox | awk '{print $1}' ?
[21:24] <wols_> Noodels: unlikely
[21:24] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, that will just get the username...
[21:24] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: to get the pid for firefox?
[21:24] <_slow> Noodels: you'll need to ask the question in the form of a question
[21:24] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: ps -e, not ps -fe
[21:24] <dog> ~dvd
[21:24] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, on that case its safer to use "firefox", otherwise you mau catch wrong items
[21:24] <dog> !dvd
[21:24] <joaopinto> ah, ok :)
[21:24] <andy56_uk> ﻿Hi all.  ﻿I'm new to Ubuntu (and Linux) and have a problem with my network configuration.  I've posted a synopsis at the following link if anyone can offer any suggestions or advice.  http://jandax.pastebin.com/f2f8c944e
[21:24] <orgthingy> wols_: i have 8.04 and the portable driver is a Palm
[21:25] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: yeah, bad example. I meant something like getting all ftp processes
[21:25] <Noodels> Alright, so I should definitely blacklist my ndiswrapper somehow? And if so, how?
[21:25] <wols_> orgthingy: and what type of filesystem does it use?
[21:25] <delmar> hi everyone. I can't seem to start my 64bit desktop install. I WAS having issues similar to this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421876 but have overcome this.  Now all I get no matter what I do is an (initramfs) prompt in a BusyBox shell.  The installer wont start.  Same if I try to boot to the live demo option, I just get BusyBox shell.
[21:25] <delmar> Anyone have any ideas?
[21:25] <orgthingy> wols_: god knows
[21:25] <orgthingy> wols_: but in general, how do i solve this problem?
[21:25] <johnnypea> !atom
[21:25] <wols_> orgthingy: different mount options. gid,uid and umask.
[21:26] <wols_> orgthingy: if you have mounted the palm already you know what filesystem. otherwise you couldn't have mounted it
[21:26] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: so I can just     sudo kill `ps -e | grep ftp | awk '{print $1}'`       to kill all ftp processes?
[21:27] <orgthingy> wols_: i mounted it like 1 week ago, but i "decided" to ask now and i think i lost my palm :P
[21:27] <_slow> delmar judging from this forum thread you've posted, there's several reasons why I would suggest this: Start over. Reason #1) you're installing Feisty and Hardy is out now Reason #2) You're not going yet so you won't lose valuable data and #3) it's way easier to reinstall than to fix a broken install
[21:27] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, for killing is just easier to: sudo killall ftp
[21:27] <joaopinto> :)
[21:27] <delmar> _slow, ah sorrt. I AM installing 8.04
[21:27] <_slow> delmar oh
[21:27] <battlesaq>   _________________________________________________
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[21:27] <battlesaq> | wols_: http://www.feem.net/~deadbum/debian.jpg | |
[21:27] <battlesaq> +------------------------------------------------+/
[21:27] <FloodBot1> battlesaq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:28] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: oh? that's much easier!
[21:28] <joaopinto> :)
[21:28] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: and that will kill vsftpd, gftp etc, or just ftp?
[21:28] <nickrud> battlesaq, please don't do that
[21:28] <delmar> _slow, but its the same problem.. or was.. I was only getting.. kernel alive, then kernel direct mapping tables blah blah.. then it would stop and do nothing.
[21:28] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, only "ftp" processes
[21:28] <nickrud> sofiankrt, you get yourself setup
[21:28] <delmar> after doing the nospach noapic thing it works more.
[21:29] <sofiankrt> nickrud: pardon?
[21:29] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: gah, I'll just write a script to do it
[21:29] <joaopinto> for the previous approach: ps -e | grep ftp | awk '{print $1}' | sudo xargs kill
[21:29] <_slow> delmar have you checked for a newer BIOS version for your board? The APIC problem is usually fixed when the BIOS people make new releases
[21:29] <nickrud> sofiankrt, supposed to be question, I see you're talking to someone about it (work sometimes takes precedence, I'm pretty good about ignoring it when I can :)
[21:29] <Noodels> wols_: So what do you think this problem is? Just ndiswrapper?
[21:29] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: what's xargs?
[21:29] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, man xargs :)
[21:29] <cyphase> ohhh, latest firefox is in hardy-proposed
[21:30] <hypoluxa> why did battlesaq get banned?
[21:30] <_slow> delmar this isn't #hardware but also keep in mind that newer BIOS doesn't necessarily mean it's teh right BIOS. always read the release notes.
[21:30] <wols_> Noodels: the problem is your auth took too long
[21:30] <ingo> hallo! i installed ubuntustudio the last days - in this repo-package is a audio-package for system events - is there a audio-package for [main] ubuntu hardy!?
[21:30] <delmar> _slow, yep. latest bios but in fact... if I remove 'quiet' and add nosplash and dont bother with noapic it does still boot up and do more. takes a while tho but it never ever starts the UI or install or anything. all i get is the (initramfs) prompt in the BusyBox shell
[21:30] <Noodels> wols_: What could cause+fix that?
[21:30] <_slow> delmar additionally have you tried installing by turning off APIC in CMOS?
[21:31] <wols_> another driver possibly
[21:31] <_slow> *by/after
[21:31] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: lol, shoulda known
[21:31]  * delcoyote hi
[21:31] <sofiankrt> nickrud: no, but we're discussing the best way to kill a process, don't you agree?
[21:32] <nickrud> sofiankrt, yeah, I like xargs myself :)
[21:32] <delmar> _slow, didn't see an option to disable apic in bios.  lets assume for a moment thats not the issue though because I was able to boot with or without that noapic boot option.
[21:32] <sofiankrt> nickrud: so I've come out with the conclusion that writing a script asking for user input and then substituting it is the best way
[21:32] <_slow> delmar restate the question i'm out of ideas
[21:32] <Noodels> wols_: I'm not sure where I could get different drivers, I thought it was more like one driver fits all.
[21:32] <delmar> _slow, here is my theory... by default.. all I get is the two lines.. kernel alive, and kernel direct mapping tables blah... then it seems to sit there
[21:32] <sofiankrt> nickrud: what do you think?
[21:33] <delmar> _slow, in the background it IS actually booting.. but never gets past the initramfs thing so no matter how long I leave it.. i will never see the UI initialise....
[21:33] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, what are you trying to achieve in general (besides killing the ftp processes) ?
[21:33] <wols_> Noodels: there are 3 different drivers available for your card: ndiswrapper, bcm43xx and the new ieee80211 softmac stack bcm43xx driver
[21:33] <delmar> _slow, removing 'quiet' and adding 'nosplash' I am now able to see it booting, and axs the initramfs prompt when its done...
[21:34] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: killing a process without typing in it's full name
[21:34] <delmar> _slow, so all I have achieved is to see whats really going on behind the scenes.. and need to fix whatever it is thats causing it to drop to initramfs all the time
[21:34] <Noodels> wols_: So if the ndiswrapper is a bad method to try, ( or at least, I've been told ), I should look for the ieee80211 driver?
[21:35] <_slow> delmar forgive me if this sounds pejorative but I saw this solution on a forum: Are you absolutely certain you have the AMD64 installer
[21:35] <wols_> Noodels: yes
[21:35] <delmar> _slow, naturally that must be something to do with hardware... somehow, since we know the .iso install works fine on other systems... Im just not sure what it is.
[21:35] <delmar> _slow, yep its 8.04 64bit desktop.
[21:35] <Sexygurl> I have a program trying to use a binary called C++ to compile, but I can't find any tool named C++ in the repositories, help please?
[21:35] <Sexygurl> Where could I find this tool?
[21:35] <_slow> delmar ok because there was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=716189  with the same symptoms
[21:35] <wols_> delmar: if you get the busybox shell there was an error before that. what is that error?
[21:36] <ompaul> Sexygurl, sudo apt-get install build-essential <<< do that and you will get C++ and lots more
[21:36] <wols_> !build-essential | Sexygurl
[21:36] <delmar> wols_, ok maybe I will try again and look in.. dmesg or somewhere?
[21:36] <Sexygurl> ompaul, oh... I thought I already had it...
[21:36] <delmar> wols_, didn't see anything major as I was watching the console.
[21:36] <wols_> delmar: on your screen. there is no log daemon yet when the disk the logs are on is not mounted and can't be mounted
[21:36] <ompaul> Sexygurl, obviously no
[21:36] <ompaul> ;-0
[21:37] <wols_> ompaul: C++ does not exist. g++ does
[21:37] <ompaul> wols_, there is that
[21:37] <delmar> wols_, some stuff screams past tho. is there a way to pause it?
[21:37] <wols_> Sexygurl: a binary C++ doesn't exist anywhere. C++ is the name of theprogramming language
[21:37] <ompaul> Sexygurl, ^^ see wols_ comment
[21:37] <_slow> delmar you might have to do this a couple of times. are you using a crt and it's not warming up enough for you to see the messages yet?
[21:37] <wols_> delmar: oause
[21:37] <wols_> delmar: pause
[21:37] <delmar> k
[21:37] <delmar> _slow, nah it's a DVI LCD. things are all good when it boots without quiet. I can see it all.. sometimes just a little too fast is all
[21:38] <wols_> delmar: with a serial console it would be easier
[21:38] <delmar> _slow, ill go read that post a sec.
[21:38] <_slow> all hail Technoviking
[21:38] <Noodels> wols_: Any idea where to find any of these drivers / a guide to installing them?
[21:38] <connor> sup
[21:38] <delmar> wols_, theres an idea... and i think there IS a serial post on this box... uh but there is no serial port on the laptop :(
[21:38] <NeuroShayd> hey hey
[21:38] <wols_> Noodels: the drivers are part of the ubuntu kernel (you still need the broadcom firmware of course)
[21:39] <Noodels> wols_: Great, so I just need to load them.
[21:39] <Sexygurl> wols_, but... I executed a make file and it says "c++ -Wall -g2 `pkg-config --cflags cairomm-1.0 libsvg-cairo gtkmm-2.4 libglademm-2.4` -c main.cpp -o main.o"
[21:39]  * Technoviking demands a dance beat
[21:39] <PeterP24> is this channel suited for posing a kernel compilation related question or there is a specialized channel?
[21:39] <wols_> Sexygurl: /usr/bin/c++ exists. C++ is something totally different tho (linux is always case sensitive)
[21:39] <softsantear> hi, i can't get ytalk working at all.  it doesn't seem to be configured properly after installation.  all of the information i can find about it is really dated.  does anyone use ytalk and the talk daemon?
[21:39] <delmar> _slow, last night I read that these intel cpu's are not true 64bit and stuff so I almost gave up but it seems that since my mobo and cpu are both EM64T it should work.
[21:39] <Jalathan> PeterP24: ##kernel
[21:40] <wols_> PeterP24: depends on the question. if there is a better suited one we will redirect you
[21:40] <PeterP24> k, thanks
[21:40] <Sexygurl> wols_, ok.
[21:40] <connor> whats the name of a good screen recording program?
[21:40] <neurobuntu> anybody aware of documentation about how to package your own distrobution of ubuntu?
[21:40] <nickolaus> I need some help real quick.
[21:40] <Noodels> wols_: How would I go about loading that driver?
[21:40] <ompaul> connor, istanbul
[21:40] <andy56_uk> ﻿:'( Can anyone offer any help with my network problem please?  See a synopsis at  http://jandax.pastebin.com/f2f8c944e
[21:40] <connor> neurobuntu: i used to know how
[21:40] <ompaul> !patience | nickolaus
[21:40] <_slow> delmar Oh, well if it's not really 64 bit then you should use the 32 bit
[21:40] <connor> i think i might be able to find the guide
[21:40] <wols_> delmar: they are true 64bit. who ever wrote that was without a clue. ignor them
[21:40] <joseph> hey people wheres my mozilla folder.....im doing a search but it takes forever...can anyone help me. i just need to know where its at
[21:40] <neurobuntu> delmar: what is your cpu?
[21:40] <neurobuntu> connor: thanks ;-)
[21:40] <Boxxxer> hello
[21:40] <connor> wait
[21:40] <wols_> Noodels: put the driver in /etc/modules and possible blacklist the others
[21:40] <connor> cant find it
[21:41] <connor> wait
[21:41] <PeterP24> well I don't know; I compiled a new kernel (2.6.25.5) in gutsy and now it won't start
[21:41] <joseph> hey people wheres my mozilla folder.....im doing a search but it takes forever...can anyone help me. i just need to know where its at
[21:41] <connor> google pendrivelinux, the guide was on that site
[21:41] <Jalathan> joseph: ~/.mozilla/
[21:41] <wols_> PeterP24: there are errors
[21:41] <joseph> thanks
[21:41] <ivanhoe> hello evryone
[21:41] <Boxxxer> can one please explain to me the usefulness of the 3-state checkbox?
[21:41] <joseph> is it hidden?
[21:41] <nickolaus> ompaul I wasn't trying to rush anyone I just logged in and was trying to find someone with a few seconds to spare.
[21:41] <wols_> joseph: in your ~
[21:41] <Sexygurl> wols_, do you know where I can find a library called libsvg-cairo? I can't find it in the repository. :(
[21:41] <joseph> thanks
[21:41] <ivanhoe> i have problems with a pendrive usb
[21:41] <PeterP24> I don't know were to search
[21:41] <joseph> does that mean home?
[21:41] <ivanhoe> don read in ubuntu
[21:41] <joseph> ~
[21:41] <ompaul> !ask | nickolaus
[21:41] <Jalathan> joseph: yes, press Ctrl+h to unhide
[21:41] <wols_> Sexygurl: packages.ubuntu.org  check there
[21:41] <ivanhoe> says incorrect level
[21:41] <connor> ivanhoe: what happens?
[21:41] <joseph> thanks
[21:41] <Sinnerman> hi. how would i go about getting pidgin 2.4.2 working on gutsy? there only appear to be packages available for hardy, and because i already have a working gutsy install i'm a bit reluctant to upgrade to hardy for that one app.
[21:41] <ivanhoe> well
[21:41] <PeterP24> It doesn't say anything it just hang with a black screen
[21:41] <connor> i know what it is
[21:41] <_slow> Boxxxer: a) yes i can explain b) no i can't explain c) i don't know if i can explain. there's your three state checkbox.
[21:42] <ivanhoe> i put a pendrive in ubuntru
[21:42] <Noodels> wols_: The driver name being ieee80211?
[21:42] <ivanhoe> then
[21:42] <wols_> Noodels: no
[21:42] <delmar> wols_, um no actually. i did quite a lot of reading and for example.. my CPU.. http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL8Q7  ... is actually a true 32bit core with extra 64bit extensions and registers.  essentially it's a hack.
[21:42] <ivanhoe> i cant open
[21:42] <ompaul> Sexygurl, what are you trying to compile?
[21:42] <ivanhoe> because the label are changing
[21:42] <ivanhoe> i think
[21:42] <wols_> delmar: bullshit
[21:42] <delmar> neurobuntu, http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL8Q7
[21:42] <Sexygurl> ompaul, a little Cairo demo program.
[21:42] <Noodels> wols_: Um, what then?
[21:42] <_slow> Boxxxer also, let's say you have a software installation tree. The three state checkbox can be used to indicate that some of the components in the subcategory are to be installed but not all of them.
[21:43] <nickolaus> I need to log into a server I have online so I can transfer files to and from my computer I have the login and pass as well as the url could someone please walk me through it real quick.
[21:43] <wols_> Noodels: look in the same aread os the ieee driver for the bcm one
[21:43] <wols_> !b43
[21:43] <Sexygurl> ompaul, it's called cairo-in-motion.
[21:43] <andy56_uk> Boxxxer:  A typical example is where you have a tree structure containing a three-state check box at the root, with two-state children.  The three-state can show a) all sub options selected; b) no sub options selected; c) some sub options selected.
[21:43] <wols_> Noodels: look for b43
[21:43] <zetheroo> how many thousands of drivers does the Linux kernel have built-in?
[21:43] <joaopinto> nickolaus, what file transfer service is installed on the server ? ftp ?
[21:43] <_slow> andy56_uk yeah that's what i just said pretty much
[21:44] <softsantear> is anyone familiar with ytalk and the talk daemon?
[21:44] <_slow> andy56_uk you put it more eloquently though
[21:44] <andy56_uk> _slow: posts crossed - no offence intended
[21:44] <zetheroo> anyone know?
[21:44] <joaopinto> zetheroo, no
[21:44] <balls> !divx
[21:44] <Noodels> wols_: Look where? All I see is fuse, lp, sbp2 and bcm43xx.
[21:44] <nickolaus> joaopinto I'm not sure I do recall connecting to it through "Places > Connect to server"
[21:44] <wols_> Noodels: locate b43
[21:44] <Noodels> Oh god I should be better at adding drivers..
[21:44] <Boxxxer> andy56_uk, thank you
[21:44] <Sexygurl> wols_, it's not there.
[21:45] <connor> whats the default record button for istanbul?
[21:45] <ompaul> Sexygurl, I can't find a libsvg-cairo  so I suggest you check out what is around using apt-cache search libsvg and cairo and see if it works for you
[21:45] <joaopinto> nickolaus, well, that could be FTP, SFTP or samba
[21:45] <wols_> Sexygurl: then ubuntu doesn't have it. check CAIRO sites
[21:45] <Sexygurl> wols_, alright.
[21:45] <nickolaus> joaopinto I'm sure it FTP
[21:45] <joaopinto> Sexygurl, maybe you are looking for librsvg2-dev
[21:45] <neurobuntu> connor: is the guide for any distro of linux or just ubuntu?
[21:45] <joaopinto> nickolaus, so you just need to ftp to the server, and provide the user and pass...
[21:45] <Sexygurl> joaopinto, I already have that, I'm sure.
[21:45] <delmar> wols_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
[21:46] <neurobuntu> I'm developing a suite of apps that I would like to bundle into a unique distrobution of linux
[21:46] <AL-G77> hello all :-)
[21:46] <connor> neurobuntu: if i remember correctly it was for ubuntu
[21:46] <connor> hi
[21:46] <Kremlin[NA]> Is it possible to change your processor in your computer out without reinstalling ubuntu?
[21:46] <connor> probably yes
[21:46] <neurobuntu> Kremlin: yes
[21:46] <connor> a processor is hardware
[21:46] <wols_> delmar: I know what x86-64 is thank you very much
[21:46] <joaopinto> Kremlin[NA], yes
[21:46] <Noodels> wols_: That brings up a lot.. And I'm not sure what I'm looking for.
[21:46] <Kremlin[NA]> NICE
[21:46] <wols_> Noodels: locate b43|grep modules
[21:46] <AL-G77> quick question from a noob :-) if i copy a file from ubuntu to a ntfs partition just using copy and paste will that work
[21:46] <cpk1> nickolaus: I'm sure you could use scp
[21:46] <Kremlin[NA]> Well, I remember windows wasnt happy sometimes if you did this, but this is great
[21:47] <_slow> I'll take Kremlin[NA]'s question further: what about changing out your x86 whith an AMD64?
[21:47] <joaopinto> AL-G77, if you have the required permissions, yes
[21:47] <wols_> AL-G77: yes if the ntfs partition is writable
[21:47] <connor> question about firefox 2
[21:47] <connor> how can i get a button on the side of my mouse to go back and forward for pages?
[21:47] <AL-G77> cool :-) i was worried xp still wouldn';t read it :-)
[21:47] <connor> on firefox 2?
[21:47] <neurobuntu> Kremlin[NA]: how ever if you are doing a major upgrade, from one MOBO to another it would probably be best to do a clean install. Also if you upgrade from a 32bit cpu to a 64bit cpu ubuntu will still only  be operating as a 32bit os
[21:47] <AL-G77> thanks guys
[21:47] <wols_> _slow: and AMD64 IS a x86
[21:47] <joaopinto> _slow, yes, also
[21:47] <delmar> wols_, dont get your knickers in a twist.. I AM interested in what you have to say if you have a different view... also I read stuff on here.. http://www.flexbeta.net/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t5534.html
[21:48] <Noodels> wols_: Three groups, one for each 16-generic to 18-generic.
[21:48] <connor> #firefox
[21:48] <cpk1> neurobuntu: why would you need to do a clean install if changing mobo's? nothing will have changed on the kernel after changing them
[21:48] <_slow> you can twist my knickers all you want
[21:48] <delmar> wols_, the picture I got when reading around the place is that EM64T is essentially a 64bit register extension to accommodate more ram.
[21:48] <wols_> neurobuntu: mobo change doesn't need a reinstall under linux. this is not windows
[21:48] <yme> Hi, I want to discover which program is running on port 25. I've got nmap. Do you know how can I do it?
[21:49] <_slow> SMTP
[21:49] <wols_> delmar: your picture is a) wrong and b) offtopic in here
[21:49] <Sexygurl> ompaul, I didn't find it.
[21:49] <delmar> wols_, and also provides other 64bit extensions too. but thats what it is.. 'extension'.
[21:49] <Starnestommy> yme: it's probably an smtp server
[21:49] <Kremlin[NA]> neurobuntu: Im not actually sure which CPU it is I have in the box now. system monitor says : Intel Celeron D CPU 3.2ghz. I have a Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13ghz lying around.. Would that make the pc a whole lot faster?
[21:49] <wols_> yme: nmap is the wrong thing to use
[21:49] <_slow> yme: nmap -p 25 (the ip)
[21:49] <ompaul> Sexygurl, as I said I did not find it but you might find something there
[21:49] <_slow> yme: nmap -sV -p 25 (the ip) rather
[21:49] <delmar> wols_, ok. cheers. I was interested in your comments on that post but anyway.
[21:49] <Noodels> wols_: Do these mean I just want to add b43 to my /etc/modules?
[21:49] <ompaul> yme, lsof | grep 25
[21:49] <alexbOrsova> my network connection seems to randomly stop working. i can make it work again by either rebooting or typing "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" and im on ubuntu 8.04. can anyone help?
[21:49] <PeterP24> the messages which apear during the boot > in which log are printed?
[21:50] <_slow> you can do it with lsof too
[21:50] <wols_> Noodels: only if your running kernel has the module
[21:50] <Sexygurl> ompaul, it wasn't in the cache. I think I'll check the cairo website.
[21:50] <HELLFIRE> dobranoc
[21:50] <ompaul> Sexygurl, that would be a good idea
[21:50] <wols_> ompaul: too many false positives :P
[21:50] <Noodels> wols_: It has b43.ko and b43legacy.ko, are those what I'm looking for?
[21:50] <wols_> Noodels: b43
[21:51] <ompaul> wols_, well I am not going to give a lecture in the value of escaping a single space ;-)
[21:51] <melter> is it possible to install ubuntu from a scsi cd drive?
[21:51] <yme> _slow, the result is:  Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1
[21:51] <yme> _slow, how do I remove Sendmail?
[21:51] <wols_> melter: yes
[21:51] <Shak-> what is the difference between nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-glx-new-envy?
[21:51] <Sexygurl> ompaul, actually Google found it for me... I should have done that first, but how do I install it? :o
[21:51] <_slow> alexanderwz i had the same problem until i switched network cards. it apparently kept intermittently locking up when it encountered a corrupt ARP request
[21:51] <Nyad> How do I check what the version of an installed package is? I just downloaded python-pyrex but I have no way of finding out what version it is
[21:51] <ompaul> !compile | Sexygurl
[21:51] <Noodels> wols_: So b43 replaces bcm43xx in /etc/modules?
[21:51] <wols_> Nyad: dpkg -l
[21:51] <joaopinto> yme, sudo apt-get remove sendmail (assuming it was installed from apt)
[21:51] <neurobuntu> Kremiln[NA] your new processor might not (probably) isn't physically compatible with your motherboard
[21:51] <prakriti> if I boot off a cd and set my ubuntu installation up on lvm partitions, will it be able to boot?
[21:51] <wols_> Noodels: I will not prechew Noodels
[21:51] <prakriti> does ubuntu have lvm support by default?
[21:51] <Noodels> wols_: Just checking.
[21:52] <wols_> prakriti: yes
[21:52] <Sexygurl> ompaul, why do I have to compile it? X( can't I just drop it in some directory?
[21:52] <alexbOrsova> _slow: are you talking to me? are you sure there is no way to fix the problem without switching network cards? I don't have this problem in windows xp, btw.
[21:52] <yme> joaopinto, it says that sendmail was not installed
[21:52] <neurobuntu> Kremlin[NA] cpus unlike video cards or HDD have pretty specific sockets they fit into, this is to help make sure that CPUs are compatible with MOBOs
[21:52] <melter> wols_, after i choose an option from the startup menu, it locks up
[21:52] <Sinnerman> hi. how would i go about getting pidgin 2.4.2 working on gutsy? there only appear to be packages available for hardy, and because i already have a working gutsy install i'm a bit reluctant to upgrade to hardy for that one app.
[21:52] <wols_> yme: dpkg -l |grep exim
[21:52] <joaopinto> yme, erm, so it was not installed using an apt package
[21:52] <ompaul> Sexygurl, it looks like a lib and being part of something else read the read me on it
[21:52] <_slow> joaopinto he could also have postfix installed you know
[21:52] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, celeron D's almost always use socket 775, so do core 2 duos
[21:52] <alexbOrsova> _slow: and i don't have a spare network card...
[21:52] <unavailable> asulutzy  just hopefully finished helping ironeye with his setup problem, turns out his a8v may have a bios setting blocking the detection of his sata in windows setup...
[21:52] <joaopinto> _slow, I am not sure postfix uses a sendmail header
[21:52] <delmar> _slow, so that post referred to someone trying to install 32bit version when they wanted 64bit, which should have worked anyway but anyway... I have the 64bit edition most certainly.
[21:52] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, it's the FSB that may make a difference, but it's a low end core 2 duo so there's a good chance it'll be fine
[21:53] <neurobuntu> dmsuperman_: do they have the same stepping?
[21:53] <prakriti> does the ubuntu install cd have lvm support?  or do I need to use the alternate install cd?
[21:53] <unavailable> other than that gave him his drivers and all that
[21:53] <ompaul> Sexygurl,  consider this place as a signpost towards a solution we may not know exactly what it is you need but we most likely know which road you need to walk
[21:53] <prakriti> I dont' need to install, just to copy the data to an lvm drive and setup the bootloader
[21:53] <Sexygurl> ompaul, haha, alright. :D
[21:53] <neurobuntu> dmsuperman_: but generally swapping cpus around is must less likely to work then other hardware
[21:53] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, not sure what you mean by that
[21:53] <_slow> delmar i'm out ask wols_
[21:53] <chaqu1> my friend recently baught a asus EEE, and now hes looking for me to help him set up his wifi, can anyone point me in the direction of that distro's help files?
[21:53] <yme> _wols, I did it, nothing happened
[21:53] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, agreed there, I'm just saying that a low end core 2 duo and a celeron D are very likely to work in the same mobo's
[21:54] <delmar> _slow, and wols_  thank you for your thoughts. I will keep googling.
[21:54] <wols_> yme: sudo netstat -anp | grep 25. paste the output in a pastebin
[21:54] <ompaul> chaqu1, in the bottom of a box is a rather large manual and it is very very detailed :)
[21:54] <Peterpearse> Hello all, has anybody had the screen resolution problem with hardy and nvidia cards?
[21:54] <Noodels> wols_: Right, I've blacklisted ndiswrapper and bcm43xx, if this works I shall return to kiss your feet.
[21:54] <wols_> !wlan | chaqu1
[21:54] <chaqu1> they dont have an online resource?
[21:54] <mfolnovich1> ﻿hello, can somebody tell me how can I tell VT (Virtual terminal) to use only one keyboard (I have two keyboards...)?
[21:55] <_slow> Peterpearse yes it's half the questions in here
[21:55] <neurobuntu> dmsuperman_: the stepping of the mobo and the cpus. Even if a cpu fits  a socket it doesn't mean that its compatible. I purchased a couple X2 to replace some athlon in few machines, in 2 of them it worked, but in the other machines it did't as their mobo's didn't suppor the x2 stepping
[21:55] <chaqu1> is the EEE ubuntu based?
[21:55] <yme> wols_, where it the pastebin?
[21:55] <sniper_sniper>  Hi ALL, I'm trying to change the password of a list of users defined in a text file as you can see in the link http://pastebin.com/m7973aadd
[21:55] <Peterpearse> I may have found a solution....
[21:55] <_slow> Peterpearse are you AMD64?
[21:55] <wols_> !paste
[21:55] <neurobuntu> chaq1: no
[21:55] <alexbOrsova> my network connection randomly stops working. i can bring it back by typing "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" and im on ubuntu 8.04. switching network cards is not an option. does anyone know if there is anything else i can do?
[21:55] <ompaul> chaqu1, no it is xandross
[21:55] <neurobuntu> chaq1: but you can get xeeebuntu
[21:55] <Peterpearse> yes I am, though running on 32 bit
[21:55] <_slow> Peterpearse did you manually install your nvidia card, ie. not through Ubuntu
[21:55] <chaqu1> of course you can neurobuntu, and thats what i woudl have done, but this friend lives in NY
[21:56] <chaqu1> and im in FL
[21:56] <chaqu1> :-(
[21:56] <bakarat> possibly not the right channel but i can't for the life of me figure out how to add stuff to the "table of contents" in abiword
[21:56] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: what kind of card is it? what does dmesg say when the interface goes down?
[21:56] <yme> wols_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19136/
[21:56] <neurobuntu> chaqu1: so what are you looking to do?
[21:56] <mfolnovich1> anyone knows answer to my question ?
[21:56] <The_ManU_212> hi
[21:56] <d2sp> Hello
[21:56] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, is that an AMD thing? As far as I know, as long as the sockets fit it'll work with intel. Worst case scenario, the FSB is too high in one or the other, but even then I'm pretty sure one will lower to match the other
[21:56] <The_ManU_212> isnt terhe an option in ubuntu to encode iso files to utf8?
[21:56] <wols_> yme: dpkg -l |grep sendmail
[21:56] <Peterpearse> No, I used envidia - Envyng with 96.43.05 drivers. I've had no problems at all since then
[21:57] <d2sp> I have a problem with Hardy/8.04, the automount     USB dont work?
[21:57] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, I know that my pentium 4 was too high of an FSB for my mobo, so the proc just operated at the lower FSB and worked fine
[21:57] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: how can i tell the chipset again? and yes, dmesg has a bunch of "eth0: Transmit error" messages
[21:57] <yme> wols_ ok that printed out a line. rc  sendmail-bin                          8.14.2-2build1                      powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans. Is that all?
[21:57] <_slow> Peterpearse if using gnome or kde do a killall gdm or killall kdm respectively after downloading the latest nvidia driver, sudo (the installer) /u to uninstall the old driver and sudo (the installer) to install the new one.
[21:57] <delmar> _slow, http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765195  offers me some more ideas!.
[21:57] <_slow> Peterpearse keep it in the channel
[21:58] <Peterpearse> Well I don't need to. It all works as is
[21:58] <laughtear> i need help
[21:58] <wols_> yme: not installed currently then....
[21:58] <_slow> Peterpearse so teh problem is resolution?
[21:58] <wols_> yme: locate bin/sendmail
[21:58] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, in any case, it never hurts to try, or at least research, so whoever you were helping should probably look them up :P
[21:58] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: lshw will work to find the nic
[21:58] <neurobuntu> dmsuperman: that sounds right... http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/29 <--- explains a bit on stepping
[21:58] <Peterpearse> I'm offering a resolution. I think I said that!
[21:58] <joaopinto> yme, dpkg -S $(which sendmail)
[21:59] <unavailable> hey guys im back
[21:59] <unavailable> any way i could get a yahoo voice solution for 64 bit ubuntu?  or instructions on correctly compiling Gyachi and having it work in 64 bit?
[21:59] <_slow> Peterpearse are you sure it's correctly identifying the card as nvidia? check the restricted drivers tab in settings and tell me if you see the nVidia card listed
[21:59] <yme> wols_ nothing appears
[21:59] <ASULutzy> unavailable: Google installing XP to SATA and you'll see what I'm talking about, I wasn't just blowing hot air :P
[21:59] <neurobuntu> dmsuperman_: i totally agree
[21:59] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet ( Silicon Integrated Systems )
[22:00] <unavailable> ASULutzy i know just went through the driver download and possible bios setting change with ironeye
[22:00] <laughtear> neither update manager, nor add/remove does not work, when i start'em to work ther stop responding...:(
[22:00] <yme> joaopinto, that didn't work
[22:00] <joaopinto> yme, not work like... what was the output ?
[22:00] <sadaiyappan> Hi
[22:00] <wols_> yme: ps aux |grep sendmail
[22:00] <sadaiyappan> my laptop keeps booting into low graphics mode
[22:00] <unavailable> I was just saying that with my setup i didnt have to install any drivers
[22:00] <sadaiyappan> can someone help me boot it into normal mode?
[22:00] <Peterpearse> yes, in the Nvidia x server settings it show as an nvidia 7300gt, as it should
[22:00] <d2sp> I have a problem with Hardy/8.04, the automount     USB dont work?
[22:00] <laughtear> neither update manager, nor add/remove does not work, when i start'em to work ther stop responding...:(
[22:00] <_slow> laughtear open a shell and type sudo -i and pastebin the result
[22:01] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: heh, thats what I have =P
[22:01] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: i guess im in luck, then. :)
[22:01] <yme> wols_ root      6709  0.0  0.0   8224  1812 ?        Ss   Jun09   0:02 sendmail: MTA: accepting connections          mtedone  14071  0.0  0.0   3008   776 pts/0    S+   22:00   0:00 grep sendmail
[22:01] <laughtear> _slow: okey, i'll try
[22:01] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: yours works, right????
[22:01] <_slow> i bet the hostname isn't matching your localhost
[22:02] <yme> _slow, wat that for me?
[22:02] <_slow> yme: no.
[22:02] <laughtear> !pastebin
[22:03] <refdoc> Hi , I have a problem with my wife's laptop HP nc6220 on 8.04 - I have sound from totem but no sound in flash in firefox. When I try to play sound I only get a message that there is no device
[22:03] <vikram> Whats "rpm -qf /some/file" for apt-get?
[22:03] <Jalathan> vikram: could you elaborate?
[22:03] <joaopinto> vikram, dpkg -S file (assuming the file is already installed)
[22:04] <vikram> yes thats it joaopinto
[22:04] <vikram> Jalathan, what joaopinto said
[22:04] <laughtear> _slow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19143/
[22:04] <wols_> yme: sudo find / -name sendmail*
[22:04] <Jalathan> vikram: kk, np, am not that familiar with rpm
[22:05] <_slow> laughtear that's what i suspected
[22:05] <_slow> laughtear one second
[22:05] <laughtear> _slow, ok, waiting...
[22:05] <neurobuntu> Has anyone here ever made their own custom live cd
[22:05] <joaopinto> neurobuntu, check http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[22:05] <_slow> laughtear http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723361
[22:06] <yme> wols_ running... (thanks)
[22:06] <yme> wols_ I'll post the results in pastebin
[22:06] <neurobuntu> joaopinto: thanks! have you used it?
[22:06] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: it works, but I also have never had to do anything to get it to work
[22:06] <sadaiyappan> this is what I did: http://pastebin.com/d656ca908
[22:06] <sadaiyappan> it didn't work -- well when i first restarted the gdm it was working okay, but after i restarted my PC it booted into low graphics mode and is not working okay anymore
[22:06] <joaopinto> neurobuntu, no
[22:06] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: and I don't use it anymore either since I am on a gigabit network
[22:06] <joaopinto> no time for such hard core customizations :P
[22:07] <SteM> when i copy a file, it have the system date/hour and not the original date/hour .. is it the default behaviour ?
[22:07] <yme> wols_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/19144/
[22:07] <joaopinto> SteM, yes, otherwise you need to use -p or -a
[22:07] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: some quick googling seems to suggest that it might be from a different host incorrectly set to full duplex on the same network
[22:07] <neurobuntu> joaopinto: I'm not looking to do anything too hardcore, add a couple of packages to the default install, change the theme, etc...
[22:07] <lmosher> I can't get the evdev input driver to work with my mouse as described to enable the scroll wheel tilt buttons. The x server starts, but the mouse simply doesn't work (touchpad still works). Any ideas?
[22:07] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: ok, so can you think of what might be wrong with mine?
[22:08] <wols_> yme: kill the sendmail process, then purge the sendmail.bin package
[22:08] <NetEcho> Uhm how hard is it to fix the MBR when Windows overwrites grub ?
[22:08] <wols_> yme: and install exim
[22:08] <sirjoebob> NetEcho... it isnt too bad
[22:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[22:08] <SteM> joaopinto: is there any environment variable to force the -p or -a option?
[22:08] <sirjoebob> NetEcho... google installing Grub from livecd
[22:08] <NetEcho> I installed windows completely forgetting it would kill the grub install
[22:08] <joaopinto> SteM, no, most people use an alias for that
[22:09] <NetEcho> sirjoebob I can elect to just install grub from the ubuntu cd?
[22:09] <_slow> laughtear: if you can't save the /etc/hosts file directly because you can't sudo, try doing #23 reply in that thread
[22:09] <yme> wols_ where is the sendmail.bin package? How do I purge it?
[22:09] <helo> if there is a :: instead of :passwordhash: in /etc/shadow, will the user be able to log in without a password?
[22:09] <wols_> yme: dpkg -l |grep sendmail
[22:09] <wols_> yme: man apt-get
[22:09] <sirjoebob> NetEcho... Yea. follow the link from ubottu, i think that takes you to the tut... it takes all of like 6 commands, i have done it about 10 times  myself
[22:09] <_slow> laughtear your sudo was broken and you didn't know it
[22:09] <SteM> joaopinto: this is an Ubuntu default or a general 'cp' default?
[22:09] <enyc> hrrm i wonder how these daily ubuntu cds are built .... like the hardy 8.04.1 lts cd still has the 2.6.24-17 kernel...  i wonder how preseed/udeb/whatever-it-is gets the kernel for the cd
[22:09] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: you the only computer on the network? what are you connected to?
[22:09] <joaopinto> SteM, that is a linux general cp default
[22:10] <NetEcho> wols_ kinda figured it wouldn't be too bad off just wasn't sure if ubuntu had its own way or not
[22:10] <SteM> joaopinto: tnx !
[22:10] <yme> wols_ the dpkg gave me the following line: rc  sendmail-bin                          8.14.2-2build1                      powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[22:10] <Kremlin[NA]> neurobuntu: I actually think that Celeron D is a socket 775 as the other Conroe processor is.. would it make a huge difference if I switched em if it would fit?
[22:10] <unavailable> ASULutzy ok get this ironeye's comp tells him his bios aint installed, but it boots to ubuntu
[22:10] <wols_> yme: I know
[22:11] <laughtear> _slow: i just did what it said there, ... no i didn't know that my sudo was broken? what that means?
[22:11] <Bodsda> Hi, I've just installed ubuntu with    /    on /dev/sdb1  and    /home    on /dev/sdc1    -- when i try to boot i get  grub error 15, and it stops. How can i resolve this? fdisk -l -- http://pastebin.com/f2cbff6a2
[22:11] <neurobuntu> Kremlin[NA] give it a try, the worst that could happen (don't quote me on this) is it won't turn on
[22:11] <yme> wols_ is that ok. Shall I just install exim now
[22:11] <ASULutzy> unavailable: If his BIOS weren't installed the system wouldn't POST?
[22:11] <_slow> laughtear do you get the same error when you type sudo -i now?
[22:11] <refdoc> Does anyone have an idea wrt my problem with flash sound in firefox in 8.04 on HP nc6220?
[22:11] <unavailable> i know
[22:11] <unavailable> but thats what it says
[22:11] <sadaiyappan> ?
[22:11] <Shak-> I'm currently using the 169.12 nvidia driver, anyone know if theres a newer (and stable) version I should be using?
[22:11] <laughtear> _slow: let me try in a few seconds
[22:11] <Kremlin[NA]> neurobuntu: Great, but the Conroe is definately way faster then the celeron D right?
[22:11] <neurobuntu> Kremlin[NA] just be really careful with the Thermal paste, that stuff is nasty and it is really easy for it to short pins
[22:11] <cpk1> Bodsda: you need to set /dev/sdb1 to be bootable
[22:11] <neurobuntu> probably
[22:12] <Bodsda> cpk1: how can i do that?
[22:12] <neurobuntu> computer speed is a complex beast
[22:12] <joaopinto> refdoc, I believe your sound issue is a generic problem with pulseaudio and flash, try installing the libflashsupport
[22:12] <_slow> laughtear: you should NOT be seeing "sudo: unable to resolve host (your hostname)"
[22:12] <refdoc> joaopinto I installed that - no joy.
[22:12] <ASULutzy> _slow, laughtear: sounds like you edited /etc/hosts ?
[22:12] <cpk1> Bodsda: you can do it using fdisk, not sure if it will harm your data or not
[22:12] <laughtear> _slow: no, and the problem is solved as i saw that the update manager is working now.... thank you very much... but, I just wondered a lot: what is that mean?
[22:12] <natjo2> wols_: homeskillet your suggestion worked thanks a million
[22:12] <Bodsda> cpk1: its ok, theres no data on it
[22:13] <refdoc> Only the missing device message is gone, but no sound
[22:13] <Bodsda> cpk1: how can i do it with fdisk?
[22:13] <yme> wols_ I tried  sudo apt-get install exim and it says that the package doesn't exists, but  exim4-base does. Is that the right one?
[22:13] <_slow> ASULutzy yeah his hostname wasn't matching with /etc/hosts which breaks sudo in hardy upgrades
[22:13] <Kremlin[NA]> neurobuntu: absolutely.. I have no idea what this Celeron D can and cannot, just thought the Conroe would be way faster.. Im way behind on all the new stuff out there
[22:13] <cpk1> Bodsda: do sudo fdisk /dev/sdb" i think
[22:13] <Guest4766> hey, does anybody else get really slow performance in hardy after their comp comes out of suspend?
[22:13] <Bodsda> cpk1: ok, cheers il try
[22:13] <ASULutzy> _slow: I had that happen once, forget how I fixed it exactly... Think I edited /etc/hostname
[22:13] <cpk1> Bodsda: and then pick the partition you want to boot from and press b to set it to be bootable I think
[22:13] <laughtear> ASULutzy: yes i did it now, but i still know why there happened a problem like that.... i did not do any unusual thing before that...???
[22:14] <Guest26614> hey guys how I change the themes ?
[22:14] <_slow> ASULutzy you can either edit /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname as long as the hostnames match
[22:14] <joaopinto> yme, sudo apt-get install exim4
[22:14] <cpk1> Bodsda: I am assuming that /boot is on /dev/sdb1 since thats where / and you didnt say /boot was somewhere else
[22:14] <Guest26614> can anybody helpme
[22:14] <_slow> laughtear it's Hardy's fault
[22:14] <connor> guest16614: system/preferances/appearance
[22:14] <Bodsda> cpk1: i dont have a seperate /boot partition
[22:14] <connor> guest26614:system/preferances/appearance
[22:14] <yme> joaopinto, what does exim do?
[22:14] <Guest26614> ok thanks
[22:14] <refdoc> yme it is a mail server
[22:14] <cpk1> Bodsda: ok then yes you want it to boot from the / partition
[22:14] <joaopinto> yme, it's a mail transfer agent
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[22:15] <laughtear> _slow: even so, ubuntu is cool...:) and you're the hero of the nite for me dude...:D
[22:15] <sadaiyappan> ?
[22:15] <joaopinto> needed if you need to send mails
[22:15] <laughtear> _slow: thank you very much..:)
[22:15] <wols_> yme: try exim4
[22:15] <archimedes> anyone got Advanced Alsa Equalizer?
[22:15] <connor> i dont
[22:15] <_slow> no problem
[22:15] <ASULutzy> _slow, laughtear: I definitely had that problem and fixed it by editing either /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname... This was caused because I edited /etc/hosts in the first place to rename my machine, but I forgot to change something else... Not 100% sure, but it's definitely possible to get that annoying error message fixed
[22:15] <_slow> wow i actually fixed somebody
[22:15] <connor> but whats your problem?
[22:15] <Guest4766> I saw a bug report on launchpad about system sluggishness after suspend, but it was labeled for feisty.  It anybody else getting that as well now?
[22:15] <yme> wols_ but I didn't want an email server, I want to write my own. Can I uninstall it?
[22:15] <anirudh0> sadaiyappan, what?
[22:15] <wols_> yme: don't. you don't have the knowledge to write one, seriously
[22:16] <joaopinto> yme, I hope you are joking :)
[22:16] <Guest4766> I have no choice but to reboot because performance slows to a crawl after my monitor goes to sleep for a while
[22:16] <anirudh0> Guest4766, ram size?
[22:16] <Bodsda> cpk1: when i use    fdisk /dev/sdb1     i get this message -- http://pastebin.com/f6b41972
[22:16] <yme> wols_ it's for my MSc project
[22:16] <wols_> yme: and the world really doesn't need another MTA
[22:16] <laughtear> see you guys (we have to go back kate.) :D
[22:16] <sadaiyappan> i did this: http://pastebin.com/d656ca908
[22:16] <sadaiyappan> it's not working, it boots into low graphics mode
[22:16] <wols_> yme: why do you want a new one? what will it do differently or better than the existing ones?
[22:16] <anirudh0> wols_, help him or shut up
[22:16] <yme> It's not to substitute one of the other cool products out there
[22:16] <joaopinto> yme, before learning to develop an app for an OS you should be familiar with it's usage...
[22:17] <wols_> anirudh0: better don't tell others how to behave, especially not in a rude way
[22:17] <vikram> Is there a switch to get SELinux instead of apparmor?
[22:17] <anirudh0> wols_, rudeness begets rudeness
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> LEts try to keep it polite and ontopic people
[22:17] <anirudh0> sadaiyappan, have you looked at the nvidia wiki page on wiki.ubuntu?
[22:17] <joaopinto> wols_, a rude speaking to  a rude, how nicel :)
[22:17] <Guest4766> I think the slow performance after suspend might be an ATI fglrx problem, but I am not sure
[22:17] <neurobuntu> Kremlin[NA] give it a try! i bet you will see a performance increase on higher end cpu useage
[22:17] <yme> joaopinto, I can write an email server using sockets even if I don't know how Ubuntu inside out. I could use Windows (there port 25 works), but I wanted to write it using Ubuntu
[22:18] <neverwas> is there a way to boot to a ubuntu install cd iso without burning it to a cd?
[22:18] <sadaiyappan> no
[22:18] <gordonjcp> yme: What exactly are you trying to do?
[22:18] <cpk1> Bodsda: you want to do fdisk /dev/sdb  if it still says that then ignore it =P
[22:18] <Kremlin[NA]> neurobuntu: great thanks hope it works :
[22:18] <joaopinto> yme, ok, good luck :)
[22:18] <sadaiyappan> i'll look at it now
[22:18] <anirudh0> Jack_Sparrow, how do you respond to "the world does'nt need another MTA"
[22:18] <neurobuntu> Anybody know if xchat saves a log?
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> neverwas Only if you take the time to figure out how to put it on usb
[22:18] <refdoc> yme - to uninstall any package you do not like you can do apt-get remove [undesired-package]
[22:18] <wols_> neverwas: to do what?
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | anirudh0
[22:18] <neverwas> wols: to install ubuntu 32 instead of ubunut 64
[22:18] <cpk1> Bodsda: and its a to toggle bootable
[22:18] <yme> gordonjcp, I want to write a SMTP/POP server witih IMAP support based on Java 6 and JMX technology
[22:19] <wols_> neverwas: use wubi
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> anirudh0 He is doing it for a class, I can understand that
[22:19] <yme> refdoc, thanks
[22:19] <neverwas> wols: thanks
[22:19] <ASULutzy> neverwas: You can make a bootable liveusb, or you can use wubi if you have Windows installed
[22:19] <Bodsda> cpk1: fdisk /dev/sdb     gives me the bottom half of the message.. and a prompt thats waiting for a command
[22:19] <pub> does root-tail only work on gentoo?
[22:19] <wols_> neverwas: if you run windows that is. if you run linux, use debootstrap
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> neverwas Please think twice about using wubi
[22:19] <cpk1> Bodsda: so once you are in fdisk press a and then pick the partition you want to boot from
[22:19] <neverwas> debootstrap is the way to go i suppose
[22:19] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: isn't it officially part of ubuntu since hardy?
[22:19] <ASULutzy> neverwas: Agree with Jack_Sparrow here, wubi isn't a good permanent solution. It's really only designed for testing/evaluating Ubuntu.
[22:19] <_slow> while i understand where wols_ is coming from, where time and time again you people ask questions that are either extremely vague or asking permission to ask a question, it should be noted that wols_ is also a dingus and dinguses aren't very polite.
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_ It is officially supported.. But not something I would ever use or recommend
[22:20] <cpk1> Bodsda: then if those are all the changes you want to make press w to write the changes to the table and exit
[22:20] <gordonjcp> yme: ok, what do you know about mail servers?
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_ to someone that I cared about anyhow
[22:20] <gordonjcp> yme: maybe take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:20] <ASULutzy> Jack_Sparrow:  lol that's a nice qualifier
[22:21] <Bodsda> cpk1: cool, it now has a boot flag,.,.il reboot and let you know what happened,.,.cheers dude!
[22:21] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: why? it doesn't install ubuntu on a free partition? only that stupid big file on ntfs?
[22:21] <gordonjcp> Jack_Sparrow: s/someone that I cared about/someone who has my mobile number/
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_ I dont care to discuss it...  Read the faq carefully...
[22:22] <ASULutzy> wols_: It's not a good permanent solution for several reasons. One if you lose power using Wubi you're more prone to stuff blowing up. But basically rtm. Wubi isn't a good permanent solution
[22:22] <mad_max02> Anyone got gdesklets running on 64bit hardy ?? There is no working solution on ubuntuforums
[22:22] <mystery_> hello guys
[22:22] <DarkAudit> mad_max02: I gave upo trying and switched to screenlets
[22:22] <vraa> hello all! does 8.04 have an issue with php-db ?
[22:22] <locoton> hello men
[22:22] <mystery_> Question: Is there program that will help boost your ram using a sd card
[22:22] <Cripps> does anybody in here use openbox? I'm looking for hints on how to get the virtual desktops into a 3x3 square instead of a 1x9 line
[22:22] <wols_> ASULutzy: I was under the impression you could use it for installing ubuntu onto its own partition as usual. i know all the downsides of installing it into a big ntfs file
[22:23] <vraa> mystery_: you can just put in the sd card, mount it and use it as a swap, just make sure you set the swap file priority properly
[22:23] <wols_> mystery_: no
[22:23] <mad_max02> DarkAudit, are screenlets any good ??
[22:23] <mad_max02> DarkAudit, do you have any link ??
[22:23] <anirudh0> mystery_, i think the kernel would have to do that, not a program..which means, if its possible at all, you'll need to recompile the kernle
[22:24] <anirudh0> *kernel
[22:24] <wols_> mystery_: it would be something the kernel has to do and it's unlikely that will ever happen. except using the sdcard as swap which isn't so smart either (slow, limited amount of writes)
[22:24] <vraa> Failed opening './includes/templates/navstart.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear')   <-- that's the issue i'm getting on a plain amd64 ubuntu install with a lamp stack installed. i think there is an issue re: pear, php, and ubuntu
[22:24] <tzd> i've only seen bits of the discussion regarding wubi and to me it sounds like some kind of simple virtual machine? Personally I use VMware for all those testings, other OS:es etc and it works like a charm ;)
[22:24] <DarkAudit> mad_max02: screenlets.org is their home, with may more at gnome-look.org
[22:24] <mad_max02> DarkAudit, I'll check that right now. Thanks
[22:24] <vraa>   /usr/share/pear just doesn't exist. however /usr/share/php/pear does exist
[22:24] <Kremlin[NA]> Anyone here have a link for installing a AMP server?
[22:24] <DarkAudit> s/may/many
[22:24] <wols_> vraa: check navstart.php where this file is and what package brings it
[22:24] <mystery_> ok  i just installed linux and i want to make sure that i maintain its speed and keep it clean
[22:24] <mad_max02> DarkAudit, anything special in making them work in 64bit ?
[22:25] <neverwas> wols_:  for debootstrap i am trying to use a mounted iso as the mirror, is that what you meant?
[22:25] <wols_> mystery_: again, this is not windows
[22:25] <vraa> Kremlin[NA]: it's very easy, go to synaptic -> edit -> mark by task, and select LAMP
[22:25] <vraa> wols_: navstart.php is something i've written
[22:25] <anirudh0> vraa, you could create a symlink to /usr/share/php/pear
[22:25] <wols_> neverwas: debootstrap install a ubuntu from any other linux. that's all
[22:25] <vraa> anirudh0: can you explain further? i am interested :0
[22:25] <vraa> :)
[22:25] <mystery_> great
[22:25] <Kremlin[NA]> vraa: I dont want the mail part.. just a regular apache2, php 5 and mysql server
[22:26] <DarkAudit> mad_max02: Only thing I did was set them to both sticky and widget so they are on all desptops. Otherwise I just installed the packages.
[22:26] <ASULutzy> wols_: You can take a wubi install and move it to a dedicated ext3 partition, yes, but that sort of defeats the purpose of using wubi in the first place? I guess maybe it saves a cd if you're tricky
[22:26] <mystery_> but just want to optimize the systme
[22:26] <wols_> Kremlin[NA]: mail comes by default with linux. always
[22:26] <CarlFK> how do I fix this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; The following packages have been kept back:  ffmpeg libavdevice52
[22:26] <vraa> Kremlin[NA]: right, it won't install the mail part i believe. if you know what packages you want, you can do them  yourself "apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql5"
[22:26] <joseph> anyone know a windows media player plugin for firefox on linux????/
[22:26] <rsk> joseph: apt-get mozilla-mplayer
[22:26] <joseph> i cant watch porn without it :(
[22:26] <DarkAudit> mad_max02: and the mail check screenlet is known not to work :p
[22:26] <wols_> ASULutzy: I'm coming from "goodbye-microsoft.com" which is something similar. but it installs debian to its own partition as usual
[22:26] <Starnestommy> Kremlin[NA]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP also has some useful instructions
[22:26] <wols_> didn't know wubi can't do this
[22:26] <neverwas> wols_: alright, I have ubuntu 64 bit version, i have an iso of the 32 bit verison that I want install instead of 64 bit, i mounted the iso in /mnt/installCD  i created a directory /var/install and I want to debootstrap the iso to the /var/install
[22:26] <cpk1> CarlFK: try sudo aptitude full-upgrade ?
[22:26] <mad_max02> DarkAudit, heh thats the most wanted if you ask me :D
[22:27] <anirudh0> vraa, ln -sv <existing-file> <symlink>..look at man ln for more details
[22:27] <wols_> !Install
[22:27] <vraa> thank anirudh0
[22:27] <Kremlin[NA]> vraa: ok thanks I have no idea what packages I want.. just normal server, not anything above normal
[22:27] <ASULutzy> Can someone do me a favor real quick? I just installed fail2ban (I use public/private keys for my ssh so I'm not too concerned, just want to stop people from banging on my stuff) Can someone pm me and I'll give them my ip and they can just try to login to my ssh like 6 times
[22:27] <vraa> btw, anirudh0, do you think there is an issue regarding 64bit ubuntu + pear db ?
[22:27] <Kremlin[NA]> Starnestommy: Ok thanks
[22:27] <wols_> !tell Kremlin[NA] about lamp
[22:27] <vraa> Kremlin[NA]: the wiki link Starnestommy posted is very good
[22:27] <wols_> !lamp | Kremlin[NA]
[22:28] <anirudh0> vraa, not sure..never used 64 bit
[22:28] <DarkAudit> wrong! LAMPS is Light Airborne Multi-Purpose System :p :)
[22:28] <wols_> DarkAudit: LAMPS = LAMP
[22:29] <wols_> vraa: certainly not a path problem as in your case.
[22:29] <vraa> so it's not a symlink issue?
[22:29] <sudobash> is there an ubuntu security channel?
[22:30] <sudobash> i recently heard that some hackers spared ubuntu boxes to go after OS X and Windows....
[22:30] <Jack_Sparrow> sudobash They may just be protecting their egos...
[22:30] <vraa> wols_: i dont think it's a permissions issue, my entire directory is owned by www-data, and permissions are 755
[22:30] <neverwas> : Failure trying to run: chroot /var/install mount -t proc proc /proc
[22:31] <sudobash> maybe they just dont want to release a root exploit for the most used linux distro of all time...
[22:31] <wols_> vraa: I didn't say it was a permissions issue.
[22:31] <vraa> wols_: oh lol oops
[22:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | sudobash
[22:31] <wols_> sudobash: we basically had one a few days ago. remember the ssl thing?
[22:31] <anirudh0> sudobash, err..what if there is;nt oone..atleast an obvious one
[22:31] <sudobash> theres a better one...
[22:31] <Bodsda> cpk1: no joy im afraid, error 15 still ;-(
[22:32] <sudobash> i asked for an ubuntu security channel
[22:32] <wols_> !security
[22:32] <sudobash> i run OpenBSD router....
[22:32] <Jack_Sparrow> sudobash And I pointed you to offtopic, since you are offtopic and it would be a better place to ask
[22:32] <wols_> sudobash: come back when you have ubuntu related questions. this is not a smalltalk channel
[22:33] <Bodsda> bazhang: you about dude?
[22:33] <wols_> Bodsda: where do you install grub to?
[22:33] <gordonjcp> here's a funny one, when I plug my Novation Xiosynth into the USB port, my PC plays the "logged into Ubuntu" sound
[22:33] <Bodsda> wols_: i never specified it so its default location is /dev/sdb1
[22:34] <wols_> Bodsda: unlikely. your BIOS boots from sda only
[22:34] <Bodsda> gordonjcp: cool
[22:34] <ASULutzy> lol, off topic I know, but it's funny. So I wanted someone to test that I had set up fail2ban properly on my home machine and none of my friends were available so I turned to a coworker sitting next to me (we're programmers) and asked him to hammer the box real quick... I wasn't thinking and I definitely just DoS'd myself... Can't reconnect for 10 minutes :(
[22:34] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: no, not cool
[22:34] <Bodsda> wols_: ok,then it will be sda1
[22:34] <ASULutzy> Tricky NAT :'(
[22:34] <Bodsda> gordonjcp: oh, sorry ;~)
[22:35] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: not when a couple of 140W RMS nearfield monitors are involved
[22:35] <vraa> anirudh0: what, uh, is the use to make links between files?
[22:35] <wols_> Bodsda: it will NOT be sda1. your bios doesn't know or care about partitions. and how do you KNOW you installed it to sda?
[22:35] <cpk1> Bodsda: pastebin your grub.conf
[22:35] <Bodsda> gordonjcp: i guess not ;~) interesting problem though
[22:35] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: yeah
[22:35] <wols_> cpk1: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:35] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: SORRY, I WAS WALKING MY DOG, I AM CONNECTED TO A ROUTER AND I AM NOT THE ONLY COMPUTER ON THE NETWORK
[22:35] <wols_> cpk1: grub.conf does not exist
[22:35] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: somewhat annoying, because I thought I had all the system sounds turned off
[22:36] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: and sorry for caps lock
[22:36] <cpk1> wols_: whatever, i use tab complete and dont bother memorizing the exact file name, by the time i got to /boot/grub I would have known
[22:37] <wols_> cpk1: you would, Bodsda wouldn't and he won't find it
[22:37] <Bodsda> wols_: i no what he meant,.,. im not new to this
[22:37] <wols_> cpk1: note: menu.lst doesn't matter when grub caN't even find stage1.5 or stage2. menu.lst comes AFTER those sre loaded
[22:38] <Bodsda> cpk1: theres a strange problem,.,. my disks keep changing order although i havent touched them
[22:38] <murlidhar> how to reset the settings of opera ?
[22:38] <wols_> murlidhar: is there a ~/.opera*
[22:38] <wols_> ?
[22:39] <aloky>  /server irc.rizon.net -j #animensk
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda I have seen that before... I dont remember the soultion off the top of my head though
[22:39] <murlidhar> wols_, nope
[22:39] <sylpot> hello
[22:39] <joshua__> hey guys i'm having issues connecting to windows shares on my ubuntu hardy
[22:39] <wols_> murlidhar: ls -al ~ | more    one of the dotfile-directories is from opera
[22:39] <joshua__> i read in the bugzilla there is a bug known as of april just wondering if it had been sorted out
[22:40] <Bodsda> cpk1: wols_ -- http://pastebin.com/f548d570b
[22:40] <dan> is there an easy way to make numlock come on at boot? my bios is set to come on?
[22:40] <wols_> Bodsda: read what I told cpk1 above
[22:40] <anirudh1> dan, boot or gnome login?
[22:40] <kilrae> i just generated a brand new rsa key, and i ran `ssh-vulnkey` and for some of the keys it says 'not blacklisted' but for the new one it says 'unknown (no blacklist information)'
[22:40] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: using the powers of telepathy i delve into your brain to seek answers,.,. i quickly run away due to the mass of information -- ;~)
[22:40] <dan> anirudh1: gnome
[22:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda Are you mixing ide and sata?
[22:41] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: indeed,.,. i thought i was the one with the telepathy
[22:41] <murlidhar> wols_, yes there is now should i delete the folder?
[22:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda My mind is a dark and scary place..
[22:41] <Bodsda> wols_: noted ,.,.but how does that helpme
[22:42] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: isnt that a requirement for channel ops?
[22:42] <anirudh1> dan, http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=605
[22:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda Actually.. yes
[22:42] <Bodsda> ;~)
[22:42] <yme> I'm trying to open a socket on port 25 on my server. It returns an error: Permission denied. There's currently nothing running on port 25. Is there a reason for this?
[22:42] <dan> anirudh1: thank you
[22:42] <wols_> yme: are you root? or rather, does your pgroam run as root?
[22:42] <anirudh1> .nick anirudh0
[22:42] <Starnestommy> yme: I think only root can bind ports below 1024
[22:43] <wols_> yme: note this is not really a ubuntu support question
[22:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda I hate to say google anything, but it will probably be faster then me remembering how we fixed it
[22:43] <ASULutzy> yme: Yea those are reserved ports (below 1024)
[22:43] <Bodsda> cpk1: anything usefull in menu.lst
[22:43] <cpk1> Bodsda: do "sudo grub" and then "find boot/grub/stage1"
[22:43] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: google self ordering hdd's or grub error 15?
[22:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda Is your fstab set to use uudi, or did you change some to /dev/sda1   etc
[22:43] <Bodsda> cpk1: isnt this the solution for error 21,.,. il try anyway ;~)
[22:44] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: everything is default
[22:44] <donrmoore37> hello?
[22:44] <anirudh0> Bodsda, iirc error 15 is caused by wrong partition number
[22:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda self ordering reordering hdd
[22:44] <murlidhar> wols_, actually i am not able to use opera since it shuts down automatically within a few seconds?
[22:44] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: cheers,.,.*heads to his friend oogle*
[22:44] <geko> hi, im trying to install my microphone on an XPS M1330, but im getting an error while running the install code. Im writing "wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~rtg/linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.53_i386.deb
[22:44] <yme> wols, no. I'm launching the program from within an IDE launched through a shortcut. Is there a way of specifying that I want to run that shortcut as root?
[22:44] <murlidhar> wols_, what might be the problem?
[22:44] <geko> sudo dpkg -i linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.53_i386.deb"; the error is "dpkg: error while proccessing linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.53_i386.deb (--install)". 2 weeks ago I came here for help for upgrading to 8.10, we edited a sourcefile for getting the updates, Im wandering if might be related or should I try somthing else
[22:44] <anirudh0> Bodsda, in menu.lst, check the kernel boot thing..does it point to the right partition?
[22:44] <Jack_Sparrow> anirudh0 he has a unique situation, I have only run across a few times when people mixed ide and sata
[22:44] <anirudh0> oh
[22:45] <anirudh0> ok
[22:45] <Kremlin[NA]> In ubuntu 7.10 I have a Sharing button in System -> Administration, but now in 8.04 I havent, how do I then control my samba shares?
[22:45] <ASULutzy> geko: Upgrading to 8.10? You have Ibex already?
[22:45] <wols_> murlidhar: I don't use opera
[22:45] <cpk1> Jack_Sparrow: I mix both but only boot off ide =)
[22:45] <Bodsda> anirudh0: not sure il check
[22:45] <ASULutzy> geko: I call shenanigans :P
[22:46] <yme> wols_ for instance, if I check the properties of the shortcut I can see the following: /home/mtedone/opensources/eclipse/eclipse
[22:46] <geko> AsuLutu: I dont think so
[22:46] <Bodsda> cpk1: ok, im in the grub prompt
[22:46] <yme> wols_ is there a way to say to the command shortcut that I want to run as root?
[22:46] <wols_> geko: 2.6.22 is not part of hardy anymore
[22:46] <murlidhar> i am not able to use opera since it shuts down automatically within a few seconds?
[22:46] <cpk1> Bodsda: then do find boot/grub/stage1
[22:46] <anirudh0> yme, add sudo
[22:46] <murlidhar> what might be causing the problem?
[22:46] <earthling> installed ubuntu 8.04 2 days back have 512Mb Ram.. the older distros were fine.. any suggestions
[22:46] <anirudh0> murlidhar, run from cmd line to find the problem
[22:46] <mahrellon> Odd question. What's the latest official Ubuntu kernel version from the repos?
[22:46] <joshua__> hey guys i'm wondering if the issue of not being able to access windows shares is fixed or going to be fixed soon?
[22:47] <anirudh0> mahrellon, from main or proposed?
[22:47] <geko> AsuLutu: so with shenanigans you say?
[22:47] <yme> anirudh0, in front or at the end of the command
[22:47] <tico> hello everybody
[22:47] <mahrellon> anirudhG, Main =)
[22:47] <anirudh0> joshua__, what issue would that be?
[22:47] <wols_> earthling: not until you actually describe your problem and ask somethig sensible
[22:47] <anirudh0> yme, front
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> cpk1 Some people have no problems mixing, other than a performance hit.. and we have the occasional juggling of hdd designators
[22:47] <fabio_> mmm
[22:47] <murlidhar> anirudh0, opera: X Shared memory extension is not available. ZPixmap not supported
[22:47] <murlidhar> Segmentation fault
[22:47] <Bodsda> cpk1: file not found -- im on live cd,,.would i need to say   find  /media/sdc1/boot/grub/stage1?
[22:47] <mahrellon> anirudh0, Main =)
[22:47] <murlidhar> anirudh0, this might be useful ?
[22:47] <ASULutzy> geko: I was just being facetious, you said upgrading to 8.10 which is Intrepid Ibex, which isn't out yet. I'm guessing you either meant 8.04 which is Hardy Heron, or 7.10 which is Gutsy Gibbon
[22:47] <anirudh0> murlidhar, you are missing some libraries
[22:47] <joshua__> i can't access windows shares report was made in april it looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs/+bug/208181
[22:48] <tico> some one knows how to erase information  that we don't need. and get more space on HDD
[22:48] <anirudh0> murlidhar, hence the segfault
[22:48] <wols_> !grub | Bodsda
[22:48] <cpk1> oh, live cd
[22:48] <murlidhar> anirudh0, so i do wat?
[22:48] <anirudh0> murlidhar, do sudo ldd /usr/bin/opera
[22:48] <wols_> tico: apt-get clean
[22:48] <Jack_Sparrow> tico burn to a cd or usb  /var/cache/apt/archives
[22:48] <Bodsda> wols_: thankyou for flooding the channel,.,. i think weve discovered what grub is
[22:48] <anirudh0> murlidhar, post output to pastebin please
[22:48] <pub> does anyone run eterm
[22:48] <geko> AsuLutu: Im sorry about that, yes you're right, it is 8.04
[22:48] <earthling> wols_ : i figured the question was lame.. :) . what is the min sys requirment for this release 8.04.. has gnome got heavier than in 7.10?
[22:48] <anirudh0> pub, yes..why?
[22:48] <tim168> anyone know a fix for firefox in Hardy ? (it hangs)
[22:48] <wols_> Bodsda: I did not flood. I gave you urls to look what to do. have fun ignoring it
[22:49] <pub> would you mind helping me for a bit?
[22:49] <Kremlin[NA]> In ubuntu 7.10 I had a Sharing button in System -> Administration, but now in 8.04 I havent, how do I then control my samba shares?
[22:49] <Jack_Sparrow> tico auto-clean will delete things you dont need clean deletes everything and you may end up dl'ing again later if you dont archive
[22:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[22:49] <RULR> how to get smaller icons on desktop
[22:49] <anirudh0> tim168, not reproduced everywhere..so should be something to do with your system
[22:49] <murlidhar> anirudh0, 	not a dynamic executable
[22:49] <wols_> Bodsda: and I KNOW that you won't fix your problem until you do a few things described at those URLS. but we all  know you know better so have fun fixing it yourself
[22:49] <Bodsda> wols_: i will thanks,.,. !grub > Bodsda    would have been less floody
[22:49] <murlidhar> anirudh0, this is the only line i get
[22:49] <anirudh0> murlidhar, the joys of closed source ;)
[22:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda are you regg'd
[22:49] <anirudh0> also look at jigdo
[22:50] <tim168> anirudh0: i can reproduce it on 3 computers, many people on forums mention the same
[22:50] <Bodsda> wols_: thanks for the sarcasm, oh, and also the assumption that ive never come accross this problem before and havent exactly checked those links
[22:50] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: with nickserv?
[22:50] <yme> anirudh0, that didn't work because root has got some other Java options in its configuration. Is there a way I can say that I have the same power as root?
[22:50] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[22:50] <geko> AsuLutzy: sorry, you're right, i meant 8.04, not 8.10
[22:50] <RULR> HOW TO REDUCE ICONS SIZE ON DESKTOP?
[22:50] <yme> anirudh0, I know there is this sudoers file...
[22:50] <anirudh0> yme, as Jack_Sparrow keeps telling me, i should have told you to use gksudo
[22:51] <anirudh0> :)
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> RULR Lose the caps please
[22:51] <tim168> is there a decent (and light) browser i can use instead of firefox ? thanks
[22:51] <yme> anirudho, thanks.
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> anirudh0 Smack you silly..:)
[22:51] <anirudh0> tim168, dillo is as light as it gets
[22:51] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: i am now
[22:51] <RULR> Jack_Sparrow: how to reduce icons size on desktop
[22:51] <anirudh0> tim168, its written completely in c..total size <700kb
[22:51] <wols_> tico: but dill only really works on html only sites. no javascript, css, flash or such
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda So it would not have mattered > or | it still bounces...   Please keep it polite..
[22:51] <tim168> anirudh0: i can try that, thanks, does it do any graphics or only text ?
[22:51] <pub> anirudh0 do you also use fluxbox?
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm | tico
[22:52] <yme> anirudh0, still same problem, also with gksudo doesn't work
[22:52] <anirudh0> tim168, :)...does a lot of graphics..not sure of java and flash
[22:52] <wols_> tim168: ^^ about dillo
[22:52] <anirudh0> pub, no..enlightenment
[22:52] <ASULutzy> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks for remindin me, I just registered with NickServ :P
[22:52] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: sorry,.,. il tone it down -- just frustrated by grub ;~)
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> understood
[22:52] <Kremlin[NA]> In ubuntu 7.10 I had a Sharing button in System -> Administration, but now in 8.04 I havent, how do I then control my samba shares?
[22:52] <pub> just something that could style ubuntu
[22:52] <pub> was just curious
[22:53] <anirudh0> pub, "style ubuntu"?
[22:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[22:53] <pub> yah, one sec
[22:53] <anirudh0> Jack_Sparrow, i'm not sure thats what he means
[22:53] <tim168> ok ill reboot into ubuntu and try dillo (had to boot in windoze because in ubuntu also pidgin doesnt work now :/ ) see you later
[22:53] <anirudh0> he/she
[22:53] <Jack_Sparrow> anirudh0 Agreed....
[22:53] <Bodsda> cpk1: grub prompt cant find it but i can through nautilus
[22:53] <wols_> tim168: use epiphany or galeon or so
[22:54] <tim168> wols_: you mean instead of pidgin ?
[22:54] <geko> AsuLutzy: so... if 2.6.22-14 is not part of hardy any more, what other command could I try to build?
[22:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda    in terminal        sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && lsb_release -a >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit
[22:54] <wols_> tim168: instead of firefox. dillo has no javascript or css or anything else support
[22:54] <Kremlin[NA]> how do I configure sharing in GNOME?
[22:54] <anirudh0> ephiphany and galeon pull in the same dependencies as ff(gecko)...so not sure it meets the lightweight criterion
[22:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda give us the pastebin link it gives you in return
[22:54] <wols_> !pm | tico
[22:55] <tim168> wols_: ok ill check epiphany then ...
[22:55] <The_ManU_212> why shows bkid uuid with "" but fstab need it without ""?
[22:55] <anirudh0> Kremlin[NA], right click>properties>share
[22:55] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: im on live cd,.,.is that the correct fstab your after?
[22:55] <anirudh0> Kremlin[NA], install samba first
[22:55] <noteventime> I'm getting "Operation not supported" errors when getting larger files from my local (to this LAN) FTP-server
[22:55] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[22:55] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: kk,.il change it
[22:55] <noteventime> I've tried using gftp, which works.
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda but the fdisk will tell me what drives I want you to mount
[22:56] <noteventime> But I'd prefer to use the standard method, so I can use it to stream over the network.
[22:56] <wols_> noteventime: how large?
[22:56] <iDN> Heyall
[22:56] <Kremlin[NA]> anirudh0: samba is already install, Im looking for the menu I had in the System -> admiinistration in 7.10 where I could see all folders I had shared
[22:56] <noteventime> wols_: Anything over a mb or so
[22:56] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.com/f116843ca
[22:56] <geko> AsuLutzy: my kernel version is 2.6.24-18, should I try changing those in the wget command?
[22:56] <anirudh0> Kremlin[NA], not sure of the menu thing..but you can share stuff using the right click method
[22:56] <iDN> I messed up the mount point of my Sansa Clip, and now I can't see it in /media at all. :( Can someone help?
[22:56] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: i have sda1, sdb1 and sdc1   mounted
[22:56]  * genii ponders wget kernel changes
[22:57] <KleRoi> ﻿hello I have a problem, i've just passed from gutsy to hardy heron but my gfx drivers aren't working much. I have an Ati Mobility Radeon x1600 and on the hardware drivers I see the ati drivers enabled, but when i do fglrxinfo it tells me that some Mesa drivers are on..
[22:57] <anirudh0> noteventime, something to do with the server rather than your computer?
[22:57] <yme> How do I see what's in root's classpath
[22:57] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all
[22:57] <noteventime> anirudh0: Tried two different FTP daemons
[22:57] <Kremlin[NA]> anirudh0: yeah thanks.. But I can see that I folder I shared with 7.10 doesnt look shared now even thou it is and I can access it
[22:57] <yme> actually how do I edit it?
[22:57] <noteventime> anirudh0: And it works with Firefox and gftp
[22:57] <pub> oh wait anirudh0 , you use enlightenment?
[22:58] <anirudh0> pub, yes
[22:58] <wols_> yme: #java
[22:58] <pub> ah
[22:58] <pub> does it look nice
[22:58] <iDN> Can someone please help me?
[22:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda what os is on sda
[22:58] <anirudh0> pub, superb..beats compiz and mac, comes close to kde 4
[22:58] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all
[22:58] <anirudh0> pub, imho
[22:58] <rdz> hi all. why is there no xfonts-artwiz package anymore in ubuntu hardy?
[22:58] <yme> wols_ I typed #java but nothing happened
[22:58] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: i also googled the self ordering hard drives,.,. a couple of hits but no fixes -- sda1 this time is /home
[22:58] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> RULR Please hold off on the repeats, we see your question
[22:59] <iDN> I messed up the mount point of my Sansa Clip, and now I can't see it in /media at all. :( Can someone help?
[22:59] <anirudh0> rdz, might be renamed or merged in another
[22:59] <kitche> Bodsda: it's a udev thing I believe
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda gimme a minute to google up some magic..
[22:59] <noteventime> iDN: How did you mess it up?
[22:59] <yme> wols_ actually it happens something strange. If I type java -version it appears the correct version. However if I try to launch eclipse as root it tells me that the JVM is version 1.4.2!!
[22:59] <anirudh0> iDN, you'll need to mount manually..then edit mountpoint
[22:59] <Bodsda> kitche: what is?
[22:59] <pub> im trying to use a skin on eterm that isn't affected by fluxbox
[22:59] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: cheers dude
[22:59] <rdz> anirudh0, i'll check that.. thanks
[22:59] <yme> wols_ however if I launch eclipse normally (as me) it works fine
[23:00] <iDN> noteventime: I think I tried to change the mount point, but it was confusing, because there were two tabs in which I could do that.
[23:00] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all
[23:00] <noteventime> yme: Do you have the SUN JVM installed?
[23:00] <anirudh0> pub, you have to edit the eterm theme and config files..more details on the eterm faq on their homepage
[23:00] <yme> noteventime, yes
[23:00] <iDN> noteventime: "sudo mount /dev/sdb" then?
[23:00] <yme> version 1.6.0
[23:00] <kitche> Bodsda: your issue with hard drives being self ordered and not the same each time
[23:00] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all?
[23:00] <anirudh0> pub, i dont use eterm btw..there;s something called sakura..thats a little better..gtk though
[23:00] <Bodsda> kitche: do you no if theres a fix?
[23:00] <noteventime> iDN: You can always do "sudo mount /dev/sdb /any/mount/point"
[23:01] <azzco> using unetbootin to create a "liveusb" what fs should the usb be formated to?
[23:01] <anirudh0> mount -t auto
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220471                  start here..
[23:01] <anirudh0> not mount alone
[23:01] <noteventime> iDN: Also, check if it is in /etc/fstab, and remove it from there
[23:01] <kitche> Bodsda: yes I told you the fix you need to write a udev rule which I m no great with udev sicne I don't use it
[23:01] <nickcammarata> I have never used any linux distro, but I just got a computer to play with, it has ubuntu on it right now, but only the command line, I am at a full screen terminal(i dont know that many terminal commands), how would I install the full screen gui
[23:01] <pub> oh ok
[23:01] <Bodsda> kitche: sorry, i have no idea what udev is ,. but il do some googling, thanks
[23:01] <KleRoi> ﻿hello I have a problem, i've just passed from gutsy to hardy heron but my gfx drivers aren't working much. I have an Ati Mobility Radeon x1600 and on the hardware drivers I see the ati drivers enabled, but when i do fglrxinfo it tells me that some Mesa drivers are on..
[23:01] <yme> noteventime, if there was a way to specify that for root the JAVA_HOME should point to the Sun JDK version 6 I think that would solve the problem
[23:01] <pub> im going to grab some food, and finish working on this
[23:01] <connor> nickcammarata: you dont
[23:01] <pub> i just installed linux on my main today ;D
[23:01] <connor> congrats
[23:02] <connor> wubi or live cd?
[23:02] <iDN> noteventime: Before or after I change the apply the new mount point?
[23:02] <anirudh0> yme, export JAVA_HOME=<whereever>
[23:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda   http://www.backports.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=816577
[23:02] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all?
[23:02] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all?
[23:02] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all?
[23:02] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all?
[23:02] <FloodBot1> RULR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:02] <Uplink> whats the command to copy directories?
[23:02] <noteventime> yme: Can't you just add "export JAVA_HOME=/the/dir" to /root/.bashrc ?
[23:02] <anirudh0> Uplink, cp -r
[23:02] <Starnestommy> Uplink: cp -r /old/directory /new/directory
[23:03] <nickcammarata> connor: so there would be no way to get anything but the terminal?
[23:03] <Uplink> thank you
[23:03] <anirudh0> noteventime, yes you can
[23:03] <gregbrady> I seem to be having a problem with my laptop just freezing up solid from time to time.  I have no idea why and the only solution is to hard reboot.  The log seems to be logging activity about pulseaudio when the crash occurs.  Any ideas?
[23:03] <poopuser> hi guyz i have a problem:at the begining of my journey with ubuntu  i had problem with mountin windows partition.banto sugested in error message that 'shoutown was unclear' and i need to use some comand from windows command line.it woarked like charm.now my friend has the same problem but i cant remember wat was the command.can u help us out?
[23:03] <yme> noteventime, that is what I was looking for, the /root/.bashrc thing
[23:03] <connor> nickcammarata: you mean programs?
[23:03] <yme> noteventime, thanks
[23:03] <anirudh0> poopuser, ntfsfix i think
[23:03] <noteventime> yme: ok. no problem
[23:03] <iDN> noteventime: It's not even at /etc/fstab. :O
[23:03] <earthling> RULR : go to edit---> preferences in the file browser
[23:03] <connor> you can use either the synaptic package manager, or you can go to the applications tab of your start menu and go to add/remove prgrams
[23:03] <cpk1> nickcammarata: try "startx" after you have logged in
[23:03] <ndf> Uplink: i think you can just use cp -r
[23:04] <iDN> noteventime: There's no /dev/sdb there. :O
[23:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda http://neosmart.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1362
[23:04] <noteventime> iDN: If you don't mind mounting manually, you can probably just "sudo mount /dev/sdb /somewhere"
[23:04] <noteventime> As long as it's not some weird FS
[23:04] <matt444> what is the daemon that handles sound?
 thx but i think it sounded a bit different.thou it may woark.any other suggestions?
[23:04] <nickcammarata> my tech guy at school said something like "apt-get gnome"
[23:04] <anirudh0> nickcammarata, depending on your config..statkde or startxfce might also do the trick
[23:04] <noteventime> matt444: Pulseaudio?
[23:04] <unavailable> ASULutzy all that come to find out he had his motherboard support cd
[23:05] <cpk1> whats the name if the gnome login manager?
[23:05] <nickcammarata> its an ubuntu server right now, and I don't know anything about my config, if you tell me what to do i can post the responses here
[23:05] <anirudh0> poopuser, dirty ntfs volumes can be mounted with the -force option
[23:05] <noteventime> nickcammarata: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[23:05] <iDN> noteventime: Is there any way to get it back to what it was at the beginning, instead of getting "Cannot mount volume: Unable to mount volume" every time?
[23:05] <Cyndrework> anyone have a link to a tutorial on how to setup ubuntu as an inline packet sniffer?
[23:05] <RULR> earthling: at least, thx
[23:05] <anirudh0> nickcammarata, sudo apt-get install kdebase
[23:05] <poopuser> yes but it says it can be dangerous.is it?
[23:05] <noteventime> iDN: Dunno, not sure what it is that you did to it :)
[23:06] <gregbrady> anirudh0: I have tried the force option and it does not allow a mount on my computer.
[23:06] <anirudh0> poopuser, never for me..but not _completely_ certain
[23:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=747594            Hope those help get you sorted out
[23:06] <iDN> noteventime: Would a screenshot of something help?
[23:06] <anirudh0> gregbrady, you need to run chkdsk from win
[23:06] <cpk1> nickcammarata: after you install gnome you do "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start" or "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start" depending on if you got kde or gnome
[23:06] <noteventime> iDN: Possibly
[23:06] <rdz> apt-file search artwiz didn't show me any result
[23:06] <moDumass> morning all, i have a twisted sense of buying stuff, if i buy something it is the only machine in tis class that doesnt offer any linux support
[23:06] <MattJ> nickcammarata: If you run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" then it will turn your server install into a regular Ubuntu with graphical interface
[23:06] <iDN> noteventime: Just tell me what you want. :)
[23:07] <rdz> does anyone know how to install artwiz fonts on hardy?
[23:07] <moDumass> so. is it possible to use a Nas200 as a print server?
[23:07] <gregbrady> anirudh0: yeah, that is what I was thinking.
[23:07] <gregbrady> anirudh0: something for a boring Sunday
 well thank u for tip...i think i try it
[23:07] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: ty muchly for the links,,.,.a quick question,.,. should there be a stage1.5?
[23:07] <iDN> I've been working on this problem for 2.5 hours (!) now, and it's 1AM here. :(
[23:07] <addimonk> I just tried upgrading from feisty to gutsy on my g3 imac but when I rebooted the computer it brings me to this black screen that says BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shel (ash)
[23:07] <noteventime> iDN: I want to know what you did to make it not work :)
[23:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda I do believe so.. but what do I know
[23:08] <Jack_Sparrow> bbl... lurking while I do some real work
[23:08] <anirudh0> iDN, post sudo fdisk -l
[23:08] <Hilikus> when my system crashes and i reboot my jfs partition never mounts, i always have to manually run jfs_fsck which always works, but if its always that simple why doesnt it try it automatically, or how do i make it try to repair itself automatically instead of failing
[23:08] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: you know everything,.,. i dont seem to have a stage1.5 in /media/sdc1/boot/grub     but the error is   "Strting stage1.5 -- error 15" which is cannot locate file,.,.so i think i am missing a stage1.5 file
[23:09] <iDN> anirudh0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19156/
[23:09] <addimonk> can someone help me???
[23:09] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda check your other drive partitions for the 1.5
[23:09] <earthling> Hilikus : you will have to edit your /etc/fstab file.. google that
[23:09] <patoo> connect #beirut
[23:09] <earthling> Hilikus : for mounting at boot
[23:10] <geko> Im trying to install the microphone on my XPS M1330, supposedly i could install it by running "wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~rtg/linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.53_i386.deb
[23:10] <geko> sudo dpkg -i linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.53_i386.deb" but nogo, reason you guys told me was that 2.6.22-14 is not part of hardy, my version is 2.6.24-18-generic, how should i modify then this command? If just by replacing the 'uname -r' i will still be missing the ending " .53_i386.deb"
[23:10] <addimonk> I just tried upgrading from feisty to gutsy on my g3 imac but when I rebooted the computer it brings me to this black screen that says BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash)
[23:10] <anirudh0> iDN, since i did'nt follow your earlier conversion, i'd request  you to repeat which drive the error is about
[23:10] <earthling> addimonk : question please
[23:10] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: nope,.,.its not on any partition/hard drive
[23:10] <patoo> what is the comand to conect to a server
[23:10] <patoo> plz
[23:10] <Starnestommy> patoo: /server new.irc.server
[23:10] <Jalathan> '/join #channel'
[23:11] <Jalathan> oops, sry
[23:11] <patoo> ok thanks
[23:11] <iDN> noteventime: Right click on the "2.0GB [something]", and then I went to Drive (I think, I could have gone to Volume), and at "Mount point" I entered "/media/Sansa". OK all, and on next reboot, I had the error:  "Cannot mount volume: Unable to mount volume" when plugging my Sansa in.
[23:11] <patoo> have a good day
[23:11] <addimonk> earthling:I just tried upgrading from feisty to gutsy on my g3 imac but when I rebooted the computer it brings me to this black screen that says BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shel (ash)
[23:11] <Hilikus> earthling thats not my question, i know how to mount at boot. i said WHEN MY SYSTEM crashes. if i doesnt crash the partition mounts correctly. are you saying theres a parameter in fstab to make the partition repair itself in case needed?
[23:11] <noteventime> iDN: And that directory exists?
[23:11] <anirudh0> iDN, pugin you sansa..then run ls /dev/sd*
[23:11] <wasup> How do I set up a dual monitor on ubuntu?
[23:12] <earthling> addimonk : sorry no idea abt imac :(
[23:12] <iDN> anirudh0: A Sansa Clip (works with MSC), 2GB, /dev/sdb
[23:12] <wasup> And is it possible to set up a "dual monitor" but only with the mouse
[23:12] <wasup> and keyboard
[23:12] <anirudh0> noteventime, that is not nevcessary
[23:12] <iDN> noteventime: I think it is, I made a mkdir for that. :)
[23:12] <noteventime> anirudh0: I see
[23:12] <iDN> noteventime: Yes, it exists. :)
[23:12] <moDumass> !nas
[23:12] <wasup> Is it possible to set up a sort of dual monitor in which the mouse (and keyboard) can move to different screens but keep separate stuff going on within the screens
[23:12] <anirudh0> iDN, sudo mount -vt auto /dev/sdb1 <mountpoint>
[23:12] <anirudh0> it cant be sdb
[23:12] <anirudh0> iDN, has to be sdb1
[23:12] <anirudh0> or something similar
[23:12] <wasup> or can there only be one "computer" running
[23:12] <FloodBot1> anirudh0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <earthling> Hilikus : yeah check the options.
[23:13] <Hilikus> earthling will do, thanks
[23:13] <iDN> anirudh0: "ls" - /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sda6  /dev/sdb
[23:13] <noteventime> anirudh0: It can be /dev/sdb
[23:13] <arrrghhh> nvidia-settings isn't detecting my monitor correctly - i can't set any resolution options for it.  however, it does detect my laptop's screen perfectly and gives me loads of resolution options...
[23:13] <earthling> Hilikus : have you checked the crash log?
[23:13] <anirudh0> noteventime, /dev/sdb refers to the drive..mount mounts a partition
[23:13] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: anyway of creating a stage1.5 or reinstalling grub without an alternate cd or reinstalling?
[23:13] <noteventime> anirudh0: My player is /dev/sdb too
[23:14] <Hilikus> earthling no, it is just a power outage that makes the computer reboot
[23:14] <noteventime> anirudh0: No partitions
[23:14] <anirudh0> Bodsda, update-grub fails?
[23:14] <arrrghhh> Bodsda, there's supergrub.
[23:14] <Hilikus> theres nothing wrong with the hdd
[23:14] <anirudh0> noteventime, hmm..strange
[23:14] <earthling> Hilikus : what do you mean by power outage?
[23:14] <Bodsda> anirudh0: supergrub doesnt work for me
[23:14] <Hilikus> earthling power went out in the morning
[23:14] <noteventime> anirudh0: Maybe because it's a flash drive?
[23:14] <Hilikus> and yesterday
[23:14] <wasup> How do I set up a dual monitor on linux
[23:14] <Bodsda> anirudh0: how would i use update-grub when im on livecd?
[23:14] <iDN> anirudh0: sudo mount -vt ::: you didn't specify a filesystem type for /dev/sdb1. I will try all types mentioned in /etc/filesystems or /proc/filesystems; Trying fuseblk; mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[23:14] <arrrghhh> wasabi, depends on your video card manufacturer
[23:14] <Hilikus> its been raining hard
[23:14] <MattJ> wasup: You have 2 computers? or just 2 screens?
[23:15] <anirudh0> noteventime, all my flash drives have partition..how would i mount them otherwise
[23:15] <iDN> anirudh0: It's sdb, actually. No 1 in the name.
[23:15] <wasup> MattJ, both
[23:15] <noteventime> anirudh0: Dunno, was just an idea
[23:15] <earthling> Hilikus : and that is what you are calling as system crash ?
[23:15] <wasup> MattJ, a laptop and a monitor+desktop computer
[23:15] <Hilikus> earthling yes
[23:15] <noteventime> anirudh0: Has been working fine for me though ;)
[23:15] <MattJ> wasup: Sounds like you want synergy
[23:15] <wasup> MattJ, Eh?
[23:15] <anirudh0> iDN, this is unlikely to work..but try replaeing /dev/sdb1 by /dev/sdb in the cmd
[23:15] <noteventime> iDN: Maybe it's just not called sdb any more?
[23:15] <nootrope> how do i kill an app that refuses to fully load. it's stuck on the banner (jedit)
[23:15] <addimonk> can ne1 help me with ppc problems???
[23:15] <MattJ> wasup: It allows you to use just one keyboard+mouse with both computers
[23:16] <iDN> anirudh0: Already did. :) Worked like a charm.
[23:16] <eric> how do i mount my external hdd?
[23:16] <Hilikus> earthling but youre probably right, its not accurate
[23:16] <arrrghhh> nootrope, does ctrl-alt-esc bring up an X?
[23:16] <wasup> MattJ, oo, I'll search it thanks
[23:16] <anirudh0> iDN, hmm..so a partiton is;nt needed to mount after all
[23:16] <Cyndrework> anyone have a link to a tutorial on how to setup ubuntu as an inline packet sniffer?
[23:16] <noteventime> eric: You probably just have to plug it in
[23:16] <arrrghhh> or is that just a kde thing...
[23:16] <Dante124> hi, I have a folder on my desktop that I moved from cdrom onto desktop...now I cant delete it or throw it in the trash.  Clicking on properties and changing it in there does not help
[23:16] <nootrope> arrrghhh, checking
[23:16] <iDN> noteventime: All signs indicate it is.
[23:16] <eric> it says unable to mount volume, noteventime
[23:16] <anirudh0> arrouan_, kde thing
[23:16] <sahak> what happened to Fedora's website?
[23:16] <anirudh0> arrrghhh, , kde thing
[23:16] <noteventime> eric: What file system?
[23:16] <arrrghhh> what about ctrl-esc?
[23:16] <eric> ?
[23:17] <oneseventeen> where are the mysql binaries?  such as mysqldump?
[23:17] <prymal> fedora's website went offline last night
[23:17] <Dante124> do I need to set via terminal ownership?  If so...how?
[23:17] <noteventime> iDN: But it works now, right?
[23:17] <_eMaX_> which?
[23:17] <anirudh0> oneseventeen, which mysqldump
[23:17] <iDN> anirudh0: If I'd restart now, will the changes be saved for after the restart, and I'll be able to plug-and-play?
[23:17] <arrrghhh> doesn't that bring up a process monitor?
[23:17] <prymal> I believe it was back up this morning
[23:17] <anirudh0> oneseventeen, thats a terminal cmd
[23:17] <nootrope> arrghh, seems to be loading just slooooooowwwwwllyyy
[23:17] <addimonk> I just tried upgrading from feisty to gutsy on my g3 imac but when I rebooted the computer it brings me to this black screen that says BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shel (ash)
[23:17] <iDN> noteventime: It is, but the entire point is to make work PnP.
[23:17] <anirudh0> iDN, edit the mountpoiint now..emptty it
[23:17] <anirudh0> the mountpoint i mean
[23:17] <nootrope> arrrghhh, no process monitor with those key combos
[23:17] <iDN> anirudh0: Where do I edit that?
[23:18] <sahak> when will Fedora's website come back?
[23:18] <tmapj> could anyone tell me if there is a manual for ubuntu studio audio?
[23:18] <oneseventeen> anirudh0: thanks, I didn't realize it would be a command I could just use, since the OSX CLI required me to go to the actual folder
[23:18] <anirudh0> idimmu, right click on drive in computer://..select volume>mount options
[23:18] <Dante124> how do i change ownership of folder copied from cd so I can throw it away now?  It won't let me?
[23:18] <iDN> I did it in the properties, anirudh0. Is it OK?
[23:18] <anirudh0> iDN, i think so
[23:18] <NewfieLinux> Today,its a sad day.I think im going to switch back to windows.Linux is making me mad.....
[23:18] <iDN> OK, I'm trying it now. Thank you both!
[23:18] <Keddy> hi there
[23:19] <noteventime> eric: Have you used it from some other operating system first?
[23:19] <ndf> in login window preferences>users there is a setting 'use users from /etc/passwd (not for NIS)', what is NIS?
[23:19] <Dante124> NewfieLinux...what is the problem?
[23:19] <dimedo> any idea how to get a Terratec Cingery T2 remote control to run through lirc on hardy amd64?
[23:19] <tmapj> could anyone tell me if there is a manual for ubuntu studio audio?
[23:19] <eric> yes i have
[23:19]  * anirudh0 goes off to sleep
[23:19] <addimonk> I just tried upgrading from feisty to gutsy but when I rebooted the computer it brings me to this black screen that says BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shel (ash)
[23:19] <eric> windows xp
[23:19] <Keddy> i need to install a software to ubuntu 8.04..is ubuntu gcc33, gcc34 or gcc41 ?
[23:19] <noteventime> eric: Then it
[23:19] <noteventime> eric: Then it's probably formatted in FAT or NTFS
[23:19] <noteventime> Hmm
[23:19] <eric> oh
[23:19] <noteventime> eric: It's a standard USB/Firewire drive, right?
[23:19] <iDN> Thanks! It's working!
[23:19] <eric> yes
[23:19] <arrrghhh> so what to do if nvidia-settings doesn't detect the resolution of your monitor?
[23:19] <NewfieLinux> few problems.I had to reset my internet router about 15 times today because my wireless wasnt working and would randomly stop working.And Theres barely any games.
[23:20] <Keddy> does anyone know ?
[23:20] <wasup> how do I install google earth on linux... I've already downloaded the .bin but I don't know how to use it
[23:20] <Keddy> which gcc that ubuntu use?
[23:20] <earthling>  Keddy : type "gcc -v"
[23:20] <iDN> Thank you very much, noteventime!
[23:20] <tmapj> could anyone tell me if there is a manual for ubuntu studio audio?
[23:20] <noteventime> iDN: me?
[23:20] <Dante124> ﻿ NewfieLinux try tremulous...my kids like it.  Also, the call of duty series will run under linux using Wine...and providing you have a decent graphics card
[23:20] <moDumass> aaarghh you can manually add them to xorg.conf
[23:20] <iDN> noteventime: Yeah, you did some work, don't you think? :)
[23:20] <wasup> how do I install a bin (google earth)
[23:20] <iDN> noteventime: plus, aniru... had quite. :(
[23:21] <ndf> in login window preferences>users there is a setting 'use users from /etc/passwd (not for NIS)', what is NIS?
[23:21] <addimonk> I NEED HELP!!!!!
[23:21] <eric> noteventime, what should i try to do?
[23:21] <moDumass> aaarghh but its a scary mission and if you screw it up all hell breaks loose
[23:21] <iDN> Anyway, I'm jumping to bed now. :)
[23:21] <iDN> CU, noteventime
[23:21] <noteventime> iDN: Thank anirudh0
[23:21] <sahak> NewfieLinux: try openarena
[23:21] <NewfieLinux> Ahh,you see.My graphics card runs fine on windows.It sucks ***** on linux
[23:21] <Dante124> I have a folder I cannot delete.  Little "locked" symbol on it.  How can I delete this sucker?   HELP!
[23:21] <noteventime> NewfieLinux: What card?
[23:21] <noteventime> eric: Hmm
[23:21] <NewfieLinux> sec
[23:21] <Dante124> ﻿NewfieLinux what is your graphics card make?
[23:21] <Dante124> and model
[23:22] <Keddy> heeeeeeeeeey :P answer please...which version of GCC ubuntu uses? 3.3, 4.1 ? hardy..
[23:22] <earthling> Dante124 : become superuser
[23:22] <noteventime> Keddy: What do you mean?
[23:22] <noteventime> Keddy: Uses for what?
[23:22] <mike4263> hey, I synaptic auto-updated my firefox
[23:22] <Dante124> okay...so you mean do a su command line thing to get rid of it?
[23:22] <nickrud> wasup, you should use medibuntu.org , it has a googleearth package for ubuntu (see the repo howto)
[23:22] <mike4263> and now its all borked, any ideas?
[23:22] <NewfieLinux>  Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)(aka.piece of crap)
[23:22] <arrrghhh> Keddy, you can lookup any package version with apt or thru synaptic...
[23:22] <noteventime> Keddy: You can get both 3.x and 4.x from apt
[23:22] <gordonjcp> Dante124: right-click, Properties ;-)
[23:22] <Hilikus> earthling i think i got it, thanks
[23:22] <Keddy> i need to install a software which has 3 version..it says xxxx-gcc33, xxxx-gcc34 and xxxx-gcc41
[23:22] <earthling> Hilikus : how?
[23:22] <moDumass> NewfieLinux, gotta remember that linux isnt for idiots, it doesnt cater to knot having to do anything, id dulaboot, in the beginning youl spend more time in windows, but as you grow frustrated at being treated like a child youl spend more time in linux
[23:23] <Dante124> ﻿NewfieLinux u said it yourself. Crap
[23:23] <nickrud> Keddy,  4.2.3
[23:23] <earthling>  Keddy : type "gcc -v" it tells the version number
[23:23] <Hilikus> i was missing the 5 and 6th param in fstab, the 6th is about that
[23:23] <moDumass> and then in the end you wont go back to windows for anything other than games
[23:23] <moDumass> with a k
[23:23] <earthling> Hilikus : good
[23:23] <moDumass> manlymatt83, sorry, i spell craply
[23:23] <ndf> Dante124: it's set to read only, right click it>Properties>permissions
[23:23] <NewfieLinux> Ahh but you see there dante.I could run 3d games just fine on windows.I can but barely run most 3d games on linux
[23:23] <noteventime> eric: What does "ls /dev/sd*" give you?
[23:23] <ndf> in login window preferences>users there is a setting 'use users from /etc/passwd (not for NIS)', what is NIS?
[23:23] <Dante124> thanks...I was doing it wrong before.  Take care
[23:23] <mike4263> anybody know about the firefox issue?
[23:24] <eric> when i try to go to web pages, i get this tiny little box that is a blank firefox page that prevents me from broswing
[23:24] <eric> noteventime, one moment
[23:24] <NewfieLinux> and the "good" game neverwinter nights I cannot get working because the diamond edition guide wont work.
[23:24] <Cyndrework> anyone have a link to a tutorial on how to setup ubuntu as an inline packet sniffer?
[23:24] <Dante124> ﻿NewfieLinux...what games for instance?  And if using wine do you have it configured properly?
[23:24] <noteventime> NewfieLinux: My intel card works ok, shader support is kinda bad though
[23:25] <Dante124> ﻿NewfieLinux have you googled your problem to see if someone else with your card has gotten it to work?
[23:25] <RULR> i need step by step help for .bz2 file installation
[23:25] <NewfieLinux> Im not using wine.And I could run guildwars,flyff, and various others
[23:25] <NewfieLinux> on windows.
[23:25] <moDumass> NewfieLinux, i wouldnt bother with games inside linux, dualboot, play them in windows and then when your done switch back
[23:25] <noteventime> moDumass: I play lots of games in Linux
[23:25] <genii> RULR: If the extension is .tar.bz2 use:  tar -xvjf name.tar.bz2
[23:26] <tmapj> could anyone tell me if there is a manual for ubuntu studio audio?
[23:26] <RULR> henii: tar.bz2
[23:26] <noteventime> moDumass: Well, lots is an overstatement, but wine works fine for me
[23:26] <NewfieLinux> or just switch to windows.I like linux but its given me nothing but trouble
[23:26] <addimonk> will somebody please help me???
[23:26] <RULR> genii: tar.bz2
[23:26] <NewfieLinux> if i could just get neverwinter nights working I would be happy.....
[23:26] <ndf> moDumass: if the game is old enough to use software 3d, then you can allways run it feasibly in a vbox
[23:26] <unavailable> or you could just run sun virtualbox
[23:26] <noteventime> NewfieLinux: How is it not working
[23:26] <julle_> Is there any DJ software for ubuntu?
[23:26] <mike4263> has anyone else been affected by the FIreFox 3.0 update earlier today?
[23:27] <genii> RULR: tar -xvjf name.tar.bz2
[23:27] <rsk> mike4263: how?
[23:27] <Leonidas_> hi everyone
[23:27] <moDumass> noteventime, thats cool, i do to, but if most games dont run as smoothly in windows and if hes having issues with anything, making him use wine its just frustrating for the first few months
[23:27] <mike4263> how?
[23:27] <earthling> RULR : 1. "tar -xvjf file.bz2"  2. "cd ./file"  3."make"  4."make install"
[23:27] <addimonk> will someone  pleez help me
[23:27] <moDumass> other way round
[23:27] <genii> RULR: From there probably other steps depending on what the hell it is of course
[23:27] <Pusselgenerator> mike4263: Yeah, what do you mean by "affected"?
[23:27] <mike4263> it automatically updated the package, now it complains about search engine plugins on boot
[23:27] <NewfieLinux> Well I followed the guide for it but when I launch it a small black screen pops up and closes
[23:27] <mike4263> doesn't launch
[23:27] <noteventime> addimonk: With what?
[23:27] <genii> earthling: You're assuming it's some source code :)
[23:28] <ndf> in login window preferences>users there is a setting 'use users from /etc/passwd (not for NIS)', FOR THE THIRD TIME SOMEBODY PLEASE TELL MEwhat is NIS?
[23:28] <addimonk> noteventime:I just tried upgrading from feisty to gutsy but when I rebooted the computer it brings me to this black screen that says BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shel (ash)
[23:28] <earthling> genii : give him what he wants.
[23:28] <compubomb> i have a question, when i goto network and try to mount a windows network drive, i can never get one mounted even with the right information.
[23:28] <ChunkyKs> NIS is a network login thing
[23:28] <compubomb> if there something ineed to install for it to work ?
[23:28] <ChunkyKs> if you don't know what it is, you don't need it
[23:28] <Scaevolus> Can I use debian unstable repositories with ubuntu 8.04?
[23:28] <compubomb> the drive in fact that i want to mount is a samba drive on another linux system.
[23:28] <rsk> Scaevolus: No.
[23:28] <albe> salvw
[23:28] <mike4263> i am running hardy heron
[23:28] <genii> RULR: After it decompresses go into the directory it likely made and look for some file like README and of course read it
[23:29] <arrrghhh> soooo nvidia-settings doesn't detect your monitor settings and your stuck in a low resolution - what do you do?
[23:29] <nickrud> Scaevolus, probably not, they're several months out of sync already.
[23:29] <ndf> ChunkyKs: i'm not asking if i need it
[23:29] <ndf> i'm asking what it is
[23:29] <noteventime> addimonk: I only know busybox starts when the standard system won't :/
[23:29] <Xcell> I put this in terminal...(sudo /usr/sbin/firestarter)  how do i stop it from trying to start on boot?
[23:29] <tmapj> could anyone tell me if there is a manual for ubuntu studio audio?
[23:29] <ndf> arrrghhh: setup your monitor driver
[23:29] <Scaevolus> I like getting non-security updates more than every six months :(
[23:29] <addimonk> noteventime:is there any way to fix this
[23:29] <nickrud> Scaevolus, it's usually on a package by package basis, but if you do use debian packages, don't expect useful support here (if it matters :)
[23:29] <albe> ma ciaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[23:29] <ChunkyKs> it's a way of doing effectively the same thing as /etc/passwd, but across the network
[23:29] <ChunkyKs> You could also use google
[23:29] <arrrghhh> ndf, uh... ok?  that's a little vague...
[23:30] <Scaevolus> nickrud: of course :) well, if they're half-compatible, that's good enough
[23:30] <arrrghhh> ndf, it's detecting my laptop screen beautifully, but has nearly no options for my external monitor.
[23:30] <nickrud> Scaevolus, I tired of the 2 - 5 hours every week massaging the bleeding cuts from unstable, that's why I use the stable unstable ;)
[23:30]  * ChunkyKs searches google. Yep, searching for NIS, the top link describes what it is
[23:30] <noteventime> addimonk: Well, there is probably some way to fix it. But getting busybox is only a symptom, it doesn't say too much about the problem
[23:30] <noteventime> I've got to go
[23:31] <tmapj> could anyone tell me if there is a manual for ubuntu studio audio?
[23:31] <ndf> arrrghhh: there's a driver stup for monitors, if your monitor is in that list (which it most likely is), then you can access more resolutions and refresh rates
[23:31] <Scaevolus> nickrud: I don't really care about unstable glibc or whatever, just the updated apps (gimp...)
[23:31] <ndf> *setup
[23:31] <ndf> in the control centre
[23:31] <dimedo> can anyone help me with some configuration problems of lirc
[23:31] <addimonk> I just tried upgrading from feisty to gutsy but when I rebooted the computer it brings me to this black screen that says BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shel (ash) HELP ME PLEEZ!!!
[23:31] <Guest67196> ?
[23:31] <ibou> could someone try to connect to freedb via easytag, eac or xcfa and say me if it's working fine please ?
[23:31] <chuy_max> hi, I have an nvidia 8600GT card, whenever I use nvidia driver, I cannot get my monitor resolution right, it gets locked in a 600*800 mode, any ideas? (I tried modifying xorg.conf manually but it didn't work)
[23:31] <Xcell> chuy_max--  try envy
[23:31] <arrrghhh> ndf, in nvidia-settings panel
[23:32] <Xcell> then install nvidia settings
[23:32] <genii> Hmm
[23:32] <genii> !envy
[23:32] <mike4263> i finally got a new profile to work
[23:32] <idolguy> <<---Successfully installed Ubuntu as a dualboot system
[23:32] <nickrud> !info envyng-gtk
[23:32] <mike4263> still punted my old profile though
[23:32] <chuy_max> ok, im trying that, thanks Xcell, arrrghhh
[23:32] <genii> chuy_max: Read above bot warning and be informed before trying please
[23:32] <addimonk> I just tried upgrading from feisty to gutsy but when I rebooted the computer it brings me to this black screen that says BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shel (ash)
[23:32] <addimonk> I just tried upgrading from feisty to gutsy but when I rebooted the computer it brings me to this black screen that says BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shel (ash)
[23:32] <addimonk> I just tried upgrading from feisty to gutsy but when I rebooted the computer it brings me to this black screen that says BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian1:1.1.3-5ubuntu7) built-in shel (ash)
[23:32] <FloodBot1> addimonk: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:33] <Xcell> ik chuy_max  do envy first.. personally i went to their home page.. loaded it and then loaded the settings manager from repros
[23:33] <nickrud> wow, a floodbot kick!
[23:33] <tmapj> could anyone tell me if there is a manual for ubuntu studio audio?
[23:33] <Uplink> why does my wine window thats emulating the .exe disappear when i switch work stations?
[23:34] <error404notfound> Is there something like a GUI SSH Explorer for the sake of transfer of files as there are for FTP?
[23:34] <chuy_max> !envy
[23:35] <chuy_max> thanks Xcell
[23:35] <Xcell> ok
[23:35] <ChunkyKs> error404notfound: you might try any of your normal file browsers, using fish://
[23:35] <Xcell> youll get it.. be patient
[23:35] <arrrghhh> error404notfound, in ubuntu use ssh://
[23:35] <arrrghhh> ChunkyKs, that only works in kde i thought
[23:35] <mage> hey how hard is it to disable the fancy graphics in hardy?
[23:36] <ChunkyKs> hm
[23:36] <chuy_max> genii, excuse me?
[23:36] <ChunkyKs> I can't ever remember
[23:36] <arrrghhh> mage, not hard, just turn off compiz
[23:36] <arrrghhh> ChunkyKs, just use ssh://
[23:36] <Xcell> arrrghhh--  ive loaded 4 machines with it,,, works great
[23:36] <ChunkyKs> apparently nautilus doesn't know fish
[23:36] <ChunkyKs> yeah, so I see
[23:36] <stemount^> fish:// in Nautilus is ssh://
[23:36] <arrrghhh> Xcell, what...?
[23:36] <ChunkyKs> that's the first and likely last time I'll ever try it though
[23:36] <stemount^> or, in Ubuntu 8.04, it's sftp://
[23:36] <Uplink> why does my wine window thats emulating the .exe disappear when i switch work stations?
[23:36] <genii> chuy_max: Many people experience strange problems when running envy which are difficult to diagnose and repair.
[23:36]  * ChunkyKs finds scp works fine :-)
[23:36] <mage> ah i'll look around for a disable compizbutton ;)
[23:36] <idolguy> <<---Successfully installed Ubuntu as a dualboot system
[23:37] <arrrghhh> stemount^, does that connect to ssh server?
[23:37] <stemount^> arrrghhh: yep
[23:37] <Xcell> idolguy--  whooohooo
[23:37] <arrrghhh> chuy_max, envy is not recommended
[23:37] <arrrghhh> stemount^, ah thank you
[23:37] <connor> where is ubuntu off topic?
[23:37] <stemount^> connor: #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:37] <rampageoberon> !offtopic
[23:37] <error404notfound> can anyone help me on how on shell I can create a script that upon execution connects to a ssh server, gets to a certain directory, and uploads a file?
[23:37] <chuy_max> genii, arrrghhh ok, thanks, I will try nvidia-settings first instead
[23:37] <stemount^> arrrghhh: no problem :)
[23:37] <arrrghhh> ah time to diagnose monitor problems later
[23:38] <wasup> how do I install a piece of software when I have its .bin
[23:38] <stemount^> wasup: ./whatever.bin
[23:38] <idolguy> Where can I et a listing of channels?
[23:38] <uwe> hello, im trying to download clamav and apt says the package cannot be authenticated, although i have keys i can check with apt-key ... what should i do ? is something fishy going on?
[23:38] <wasup> stemount^, I just type that?
[23:38] <error404notfound> wasup: give yourself execute permission and just double click and open in terminal
[23:38] <stemount^> wasup: yeah you just replace "whatever" with your bin file name
[23:38] <stemount^> wasup: then it should work :)
[23:38] <wasup> stemount^, in terminal
[23:38] <stemount^> so, what is your bin file called?
[23:39] <Starnestommy> idolguy: the official ubuntu channels are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[23:39] <unavailable> brainlog.bin
[23:39] <stemount^> uwe: you could compile it from source?
[23:39] <ChunkyKs> error404notfound: scp localfile user@host:/path/
[23:39] <Uplink> why does my wine window thats emulating the .exe disappear when i switch work stations?
[23:39] <Starnestommy> idolguy: for other channels, use /list or /msg alis list *search-term*
[23:39] <stemount^> unavailable: then it would be ./brainlog.bin
[23:39] <earthling> i installed jdk1.6 from the sun web site . now i want to uninstall it. how do i go about that?
[23:39] <chuy_max> genii, Xcell, wow, I just installed nvidia-settings, and it worked
[23:39] <uwe> stemount^, what i compiled from source ?
[23:39] <Xcell> nice chuy_max
[23:39] <stemount^> uwe: you can compile ClamAV from source
[23:40] <genii> chuy_max: Good :)
[23:40] <stemount^> uwe: have you tried sudo apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get clean ?
[23:40] <Awsoonn> does kubuntu install via Ubiquity?
[23:40] <uwe> yeah, sure i can, but i wonder why the repos dont have authentic pack ?
[23:40] <Starnestommy> idolguy: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode has also a web-based list of freenode channels
[23:41] <idolguy> Thanks, Starnestommy
[23:41] <Guest40972> hello, is there a way to force a resolution using xrandr, i've tried 'xrandr -s 1280x1024@60' but i get a 'Size 1280x1024 not found in available modes' error
[23:41] <stemount^> uwe: I'm not sure really - but if you want it to work properly, i'd recommend compiling it from source - which I could help you with if you wish
[23:41] <wasup> stemount^, my bin is called GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[23:41] <Xcell> sudo /usr/sbin/firestarter  <------ how to reverse this?
[23:41] <Guest40972> i know its worked at 1280x1024 on version 7 but now i'm using 8
[23:41] <stemount^> wasup: then it will be ./GoogleEarthLinux.bin
[23:41] <stemount^> wasup: you must be in the directory that it has it in
[23:41] <stemount^> Xcell: what do you mean?
[23:41] <Uplink> why does my wine window thats emulating the .exe disappear when i switch work stations?
[23:41] <wasup> Xcell retratserif\nibs\rsu\ odus
[23:41] <stemount^> Uplink: it's probably a bug :/
[23:42] <uwe> i get a bunch of warnings about invalid signitures when doing apt-get update
[23:42] <Xcell> it should start on boot.. but get errors.. I want to reverse that
[23:42] <stemount^> Xcell: apt-get remove firestarter?
[23:42] <wasup> stemount^, what directory are programs usually installed in on ubuntu?
[23:42] <Xcell> leme try
[23:42] <Xcell> brb
[23:42] <stemount^> wasup: what did you download it wish
[23:42] <wasup> xcell to reverse that type this: retratserif\nibs\rsu\ odus
[23:42] <wasup> stemount^, firefox
[23:42] <stemount^> wasup: no need for the silly replies :D
[23:43] <wasup> stemount^, lol
[23:43] <stemount^> wasup: ok, do you know your "default directory" for downloading
[23:43] <Xcell> ok wasup
[23:43] <wasup> stemount^, nope
[23:43] <stemount^> Anybody know where firefox saves as default?
[23:43] <uwe> stemount^, well, im worried about the unauthentic pack now, all packs are not authentic
[23:43] <stemount^> wasup: is the file on your desktop?
[23:43] <wasup> stemount^, that's not what I mean
[23:43] <Xcell> command not found
[23:43] <wasup> stemount^, I know where the bin file is... but when I opened it in terminal it is asking me where to install it
[23:43] <navetz> can someone do a ls -l /dev/scd0 and tell me what it says (if your cdrom is located at scd0 that is)
[23:43] <moshe> I believe the default is /tmp but that can be changed in firefox
[23:44] <wasup> stemount^, where are programs usually installed
[23:44] <evilbug> how can i hook up an old pc (compaq from 1999) to my laptop so i can read off of the hdd using ubuntu?
[23:44] <stemount^> /usr/bin
[23:44] <wasup> stemount^, okay thanks
[23:44] <ibou> could someone try to connect to freedb via easytag, eac or xcfa and say me if it's working fine please (with automatic search) ?
[23:44] <stemount^> uwe: if you go to Preferences -> Administration -> Software Sources
[23:45] <stemount^> uwe: then go to third party - do you see any rogue sources?
[23:45] <error404notfound> ChunkyKs: can you help me with: http://pastebin.com/m4d2c656a
[23:45] <con-man> is wine included with Hery Hardon or do I have to download it
[23:45] <stemount^> con-man: you just type sudo apt-get install wine in terminal
[23:45] <error404notfound> con-man: you have to download it...
[23:45] <stemount^> and you download it :)
[23:45] <con-man> ty!
[23:45] <puff> Oy...
[23:45] <stemount^> and it's Hardy Heron ;)
[23:46] <error404notfound> con-man: plus if you are a wine user, do try Wine Doors and Play on Linux, you will probably like them as well
[23:46] <ChunkyKs> ssh remotehost "mkdir /home/madmin/htdocs/ProjectBackups/$Backup_Dest_Dir/$Backup_Date"
[23:46] <con-man> ok
[23:46] <ChunkyKs> scp $Backup_Dest_Dir/$Backup_Date/Project-Backup.tar.gz remotehost:/home/madmin/htdocs/ProjectBackups/$Backup_Dest_Dir/$Backup_Date
[23:46] <wasup> holy SHIT, google earth looks and functions like shit on ubuntu
[23:47] <stemount^> !language | wasup
[23:47] <error404notfound> ChunkyKs: and remote host is the address of that ssh server? like suppose localhost if I wanna do a ssh to myself?
[23:47] <uwe> stemount^, nop, all looks normal
[23:47] <wasup> stemount^, -_-
[23:47] <stemount^> uwe: very weird
[23:47] <rampageoberon> error404notfound: use localhost
[23:47] <stemount^> uwe: is it saying unauthorised packages? because thats *not* an issue most of the time
[23:47] <stemount^> uwe: if you know what the package i
[23:47] <stemount^> s
[23:47] <error404notfound> wasup: google earth linux isn't very good... as well as picasa... for some reason they suck...
[23:47] <ChunkyKs> error404notfound: you're also going to need to set up public key auth if you want this to happen without it asking for you a password
[23:48] <wasup> error404notfound, do you think it would run better off wine
[23:48] <stemount^> error404notfound: it's because they are used with WINE
[23:48] <wasup> error404notfound, windows version on wine
[23:48] <stemount^> wasup: it *is* based on wine
[23:48] <error404notfound> wasup: may be, never tried it with wine...
[23:48] <ChunkyKs> error404notfound: I hate to be blunt about this, but if you're not familiar with simple ssh and scp commands, you may wanna read up a bit before going for the public key thing
[23:48] <error404notfound> stemount^: ahan...
[23:48] <nickrud> wine is never efficient
[23:48] <newbyx86> lolol
[23:48] <error404notfound> ChunkyKs: okay...
[23:49] <ChunkyKs> oh
[23:49] <ChunkyKs> also
[23:49] <ChunkyKs> ew, your dates
[23:49] <ChunkyKs> date +%b%d%Y%H%M%S
[23:49] <ChunkyKs> date +%F exists for a fabulous reason
[23:49] <uwe> ok ... stemount^ , i changed the repos from il to us ... now i dont get the error about clamav cant be autheticated
[23:49] <ChunkyKs> You can't sort your backups when they're named like that
[23:49] <earthling> how to get an ipod working on linux?
[23:49] <stemount^> uwe: excellent.
[23:50] <uwe> strange ... though ... :S
[23:50] <stemount^> earthling: gtk-pod
[23:50] <stemount^> earthling: try Rhythmbox
[23:51] <genii> earthling: rockbox
[23:51] <earthling> stemount^ do they support 6th gen ipods?
[23:51] <chuy_max> earthling, you just plug it, you can sync it with gtkpod
[23:51] <glen_> wow, kubuntu with kde 4.1 beta 1 really isn't bad
[23:51] <earthling> chuy_max, genii : do they support 6th gen?
[23:51] <stemount^> earthling: I believe so
[23:52] <stemount^> earthling: I don't see why not
[23:52] <earthling> stemount^ k
[23:52] <AlexCONRAD> hi, what's the package that provides "Applications > System > Hardware Drivers" ?
[23:52] <genii> earthling: rockbox is actually a linux distribution which goes on your ipod. You can still dual-boot it to the original apple firmware if you like as well
[23:52] <stemount^> AlexCONRAD: do you mean restricted?
[23:52] <earthling> genii : k thanks
[23:52] <AlexCONRAD> i don't know, the propietarty drivers thing
[23:52] <Ice_Max> what file system should i use for ubuntu if i want Windows Xp to be able to see it and read and wrtie data to it
[23:52] <AlexCONRAD> where I can setup my nvidia according to the ubuntu docs
[23:53] <Xcell> AlexCONRAD--  compiz?
[23:53] <ASULutzy> Ice_Max: You want to install Ubuntu to an ext3 drive without a doubt. If you're talking about having another partition that you want both Windows and Linux to be able to write to, I'd use NTFS
[23:53] <genii> Ice_Max: ext2 and then use the ext file driver from fs-driver.org in windows
[23:54] <genii> Ice_Max: As you can see there are differing opinions on the subject
[23:54] <hatter> my firefox has stopped working, when i enter a url in the address bar and press enter nothing happens, if i press the go button nothing happens, this just started today
[23:54] <stemount^> AlexCONRAD: It's under System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[23:54] <glen_> windows support for reading linux filesystems is limited
[23:54] <stemount^> AlexCONRAD: don't you hae that?
[23:54] <glen_> ext3 is ext2 with journalling
[23:54] <ASULutzy> Ice_Max: Alternatively, you could do what genii said, but for purposes of being able to share the partition/folders, I prefer NTFS, that way the people I share with aren't forced to download stuff to get your files. Objectively ext3 is a better file system I agree with genii, it's just Windows doesn't have native ext3 support, which is a pain in the butt for me
[23:55] <Ice_Max> asulutzy: i want windows to be able to see the partition ubuntu is on and read and write data to it (mostly music files)
[23:55] <AlexCONRAD> stemount^: well, I don't have the same name, but I guess that's it
[23:55] <stemount^> you should do
[23:55] <AlexCONRAD> stemount^: someone pointed me to gnome-app-install ?
[23:55] <Scunizi> anyone know how to apply the Openarena patch taking it from the repo's 7.6 version to 7.7?
[23:55] <genii> ASULutzy: At least you're not recommending vfat which is wrong on so many levels ;)
[23:55] <ASULutzy> Ice_Max: Then you'll need to do what genii said, you'll want to install Ubuntu to ext3 and install the ext driver in windows
[23:55] <stemount^> AlexCONRAD: what nVidia card do you have?
[23:55] <Ice_Max> ok
[23:55] <AlexCONRAD> an old PCI geforce 2 MX 400
[23:56] <hatter> Ice_Max, or use samba
[23:56] <Ice_Max> whats the difference between ext3 and 2?
[23:56] <zvacet> Ice_Max : http://www.fs-driver.org/
[23:56] <ASULutzy> Ice_Max: Someone already answered that. Basically ext3 is ext2 + journaling
[23:56] <hatter> Ice_Max, forget ext2. use ext3.
[23:56] <error404notfound> ChunkyKs: how do I specify a certain user with those command of ssh and scp? I tried -l 'username' without quotes and it didn't work
[23:57] <Daniel722> hola
[23:57] <ChunkyKs> use user@host
[23:57] <zvacet> Ice_Max : ext3 is default filesystem format in ubuntu
[23:57] <Daniel722> alguien habla español?
[23:57] <hatter> error404notfound, ssh -l user 192.168.0.10
[23:57] <ChunkyKs> -l user should work, you are using little-ell and not big-eye, right?
[23:57] <zvacet> !es | Daniel722
[23:57] <Daniel722> ok, no problem
[23:58] <error404notfound> ChunkyKs: hatter: Thanks....
[23:58] <Ice_Max> asulutzy: would that link you sent me work if i formatted in ext3 ofr ubuntu?
[23:58] <Daniel722> i need same help
[23:58] <ASULutzy> Ice_Max: I sent a link?
[23:58] <Daniel722> i have jack up my ubuntu
[23:58] <Xcell> ?
[23:58] <sven_oostenbrink> Anybody has experience with SELinunx in kubuntu?
[23:58] <hatter> !ask | Daniel722
[23:58] <sven_oostenbrink> Im using ubuntu on a server and I would like to place it under SELinux to make it a bit more secure..
[23:58] <tonewhy> can any explain to me why kismet doesn't work on my machine?
[23:58] <Daniel722> i download the last 29 update an my sound is gone
[23:58] <ASULutzy> Ice_Max: Someone else sent that. And yes, you would want to install Ubuntu to an ext3 partition (it defaults to this) and then to be able to read and write to it in Windows you need the driver from that link (installed in Windows)
[23:59] <hatter> Ice_Max, or use samba
[23:59] <Ice_Max> asulutzy: wait, that was zvacet
[23:59] <Ice_Max> ok, gonna go install ubuntu now then
[23:59] <Daniel722> i download the last 29 update an my sound is gone. olso the wireless adapter