/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/06/10/#xubuntu.txt

LetsGo67How can I change the amount of workspaces?00:00
steven_lol00:01
steven_applications>settings>settings manager>workspaces00:01
steven_i just asked that00:02
steven_lol00:02
LetsGo67Gracias steven_00:08
steven_no probn00:08
LetsGo67ubotu00:11
supertankerBesides the desktop environment, is there much difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu?00:33
TheSheepsupertanker: no, only DE and choice of default apps00:41
supertankerAh, thanks00:41
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natj1does anyone know how to get a wireless router working right in xubuntu or know of a helpful site?02:49
StevenWilliamsenhey02:58
StevenWilliamsenwhat's a good dark theme for xubuntu?02:59
StevenWilliamsenhey!03:07
natj1how do i check my ip address and gateway?03:12
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StevenWilliamsenifconfig03:15
StevenWilliamsenopen terminal03:15
StevenWilliamsentype ifconfig03:15
StevenWilliamsenmaybe iwcongif03:15
StevenWilliamsenswitch that03:16
StevenWilliamseniqconfig03:16
StevenWilliamsendamn!03:16
StevenWilliamsenifconfig and iwconfig03:16
StevenWilliamseniw is for wireless i believe03:16
StevenWilliamsengot it?03:27
natj1yeah i got it thanks03:30
StevenWilliamsenanyone know a good dark theme?03:46
StevenWilliamsenhey guys03:55
nvcgreets04:51
nvcanyone about?04:52
anom01yomg05:08
anom01ythe installer cd's for xubuntu and kubuntu suck05:08
anom01yneither of them work05:08
anom01yI've tried 3 different versions05:08
anom01yubuntu 7.0405:09
anom01yxubuntu 8.0405:09
anom01ykubuntu 8.0405:09
anom01yall of them fail me when I try to install05:09
anom01yubuntu fails on kernal installation05:09
anom01yxubuntu fails me because the laptop its going on only has 64mb ram05:09
anom01ykubuntu (going on a more powerful computer) fails as when I reboot after installation the computer sits there with a message "mbr fa:"05:10
anom01ywhatever the heck that is05:10
nvcset the scene here, what're the specs of the machines you're installing to?05:12
nvci.e. what RAM & CPU's are in them05:12
anom01ywell the laptop is an old p2 with 64mb ram05:12
anom01yhad win98 on it05:12
anom01yand the new computer is a core 2 duo 2gb ram05:12
anom01yIm truing to install kubuntu on the new computer and xubuntu on the slower computer05:13
anom01ysomeone told me to get old ubuntu 7.04 and then upgrade to the hardy heron after05:13
burner_yo yo yo.. people see this?  http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=2307#0.1306:04
StevenWilliamsenhey guys06:22
StevenWilliamsenanyone know of a good theme for xfce?06:22
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u007hi, i forgotten what i did with the panel configuration, my panel is all gone.. :(09:31
u007even restart doesn't work :(09:32
xbj9000hi09:38
MementoMorihi09:39
xbj9000anyone know why totem /tmp/Flash* works from terminal, but not from a taskbar shortcut? (says no such file)09:39
MementoMoriis there any applet to connect/disconnect pppoe link?09:40
xbj9000sorry I don't know09:40
MementoMorixbj9000: maybe the * isnt correctly expanded by the taskbar09:41
MementoMorixbj9000: I dont have xubuntu right now so I cant test09:41
xbj9000expanded?09:44
u007hi, may i know what is the command for running the panel in xfce?09:46
xbj9000I think it's xfce4-panel09:47
u007hi xbj9000 thank you :)09:48
u007it works :)09:48
MementoMorixbj9000: when you run totem /tmp/Flash* in a shell the shell will expand the Flash* in order to get all the files you want09:55
xbj9000well I also tried the 'run in terminal' option on the shortcut09:56
MementoMoriso if you have /tmp/Flash01 /tmp/Flash02 the command totem /tmp/Flash* will be "converted" in "totem /tmp/Flash01 /tmp/Flash02"09:57
xbj9000right09:57
MementoMorixbj9000: man glob if you want to learn more09:58
jarnosI can not quit firefox 3 after update even if I am asked to.10:02
xbj9000MementoMori, could xfce panel be converting the * into something like a %20 ?10:03
jarnosI tried File > Quit and it disappeared from task list after about a minute. System monitor tells it is sleeping.10:04
xbj9000nevermind I guess not, with vlc it actually gives a message "Unable to open '/tmp/Flash*'"10:05
jarnosI guess I'll have to end the process.10:05
xbj9000not sure jarnos10:05
jarnosWell, I already did.10:06
jarnosxbj900010:06
ath_grhi all. i have already installed xubuntu 6.06 in an older celeron@600 with 64 mb ram. the system is running pretty good. now i want to install some games. which is the procedure i have to do? i know links like http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/games/ or http://www.getdeb.net/. what do i have to do to install these games on my system?10:10
AlexCONRADHi, during a unattended install (pressed) is it a bad idea to chroot /taget/, patch, make, make modules, make install, mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd... ? I have compiled a network driver during auto-install process, and it crashes on reboot. I have made the same manipultations *after* an installation and the driver works fine. Any pointers ?10:10
homebrewcideraanybody else have problems printing in Xubuntu? I have a canon mp510 that prints all wrong. The stuff on the page is spread out left to right, and goes off te page, and the colours don't line up10:38
ath_grany help plz?10:39
Myrttihomebrewcider: have you asked in #ubuntu?10:40
homebrewciderno10:40
Myrttihomebrewcider: printing system in xubuntu and ubuntu are common, so that problem would be the same even in ubuntu10:40
homebrewciderasking there too10:41
Myrttiath_gr: there's lots of games available in add/remove...10:41
Myrttiadd/remove == packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/games10:41
MementoMoriis it possible to install xubuntu on a old pentium3 with 64MB of RAM?10:54
ablomenMementoMori, yep its possible10:55
ablomenyou might wanna add some ram though10:55
ablomenbut anywho, if you use the alternate installation cd it should be no problem10:55
MementoMoriablomen: can I use the graphical installation cd?10:55
ablomenno that needs at leas 196mb of ram (or something like that)10:55
ablomenbut the alternate install cd is just as easy, and faster10:56
MementoMoriI need the graphical one because I have to know first if my friend like it10:57
ablomenthen you need to add at least 128mb of ram extra10:57
ablomenor go for something like puppy linux10:57
MementoMoridoes puppy use deb?10:58
ablomennope10:58
MementoMoriwhat does it use?10:59
ablomenthey have theyr own package manager10:59
MementoMoriso another different from deb and rpm.... wow :(11:01
u007hi, is it possible to set keyboard shortcut command in xfce?11:01
MementoMorianyway i'm reading it's faq. I think it's ot puppy here ;)11:01
ablomenu007, settings->settings manager->keyboard->shortcuts11:01
u007ablomen, thank you :D11:02
ablomenit is a pretty good system.. for old computers and basic computing11:02
ablomenu007, np :)11:02
u007ablomen, yeah, i just switched from the fancy ubuntu11:03
ablomen*second to last line was about puppy btw, just to be clear ;)11:03
ablomenu007, how your liking it?11:04
u007its great! :D so much faster11:04
u007although no more fancy compiz cube :)11:04
u007everything just fast :)11:05
ablomenyou can use compiz with xfce :)11:05
u007really?11:05
ablomenyep no problem11:05
u007okay.. so far, i wasn't able to do so..11:05
ablomenthough xfce has real transparancy build in already, at least for me thats enough eyecandy :)11:06
u007aa.. okay :D11:06
ablomen(in settings manager, look for window manager tweaks -> compositor)11:06
u007okay :D thank you :)11:07
ablomen:)11:07
u007ablomen: i can't find the tweak :)11:09
ablomenno? its the second to last icon in the xfce settings manager11:10
ablomenand then the last tab11:10
u007okay :D11:10
u007ohhh. i saw it11:10
u007thanks :)11:10
ablomenhehe np :)11:11
u007ablomen, do you know how to get ride of orage and use evolution calendar instead?11:13
u007rid i meant11:13
ablomenehm you can stop orange from autostarting in the autostarted applications window (also in xfce settings manager)11:14
ablomenoh wait no you cant11:14
ablomenin the orange preferences (in settings manager) in the second tab you can let it start hidden11:15
u007okay11:15
u007thank you :)11:15
ablomenhow to use the evolution calender i dunno11:15
u007its okay, i will try :)11:15
u007i changed my session from ubuntu, and installed xubuntu-desktop :)11:16
Myrttiinstall the xfce4-xfapplet-plugin11:18
Myrttithen you can use gnome applets, like the gnome clock applet with the calendar11:18
u007ohh.. cool :)11:19
u007Myrtti, thanks :)11:19
u007haha.. i got my Wanda back :D11:21
AlexCONRADHi, during a unattended install (pressed auto-install) I have compiled a network driver. Is it a bad idea to chroot /taget/, patch, make, make modules, make install, mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd... ? The driver crashes on reboot. I have made the same manipultations *after* an installation and the driver works fine. Any pointers ?11:22
u007and Eyes :d11:24
ablomenAlexCONRAD, heh it doesnt get any easyer for ya huh11:24
AlexCONRADablomen: nop ...11:25
AlexCONRADI'm stuck with that driver I compiled11:25
ablomenim sertainly no expert, but cant you compile it as a module so you can just create a deb package? (like the nvidia driver for example)11:26
AlexCONRADI'd like to know if it makes any difference of compiling a driver during the intall process or after the install is done and the installed system is booted11:26
u007xfce seems to remember well the window sizes and position :D its better than the ubuntu version...11:39
MrNazis there any reason not to use xubuntu as a server OS ?12:06
ablomenMrNaz, yes, a server doesnt need a gui :)12:25
MrNazablomen aside from that heh12:34
ablomenubuntu server has a specialised kernel12:34
MrNazbut yea you're right... i should be using debian for servers12:34
MrNazablomen it does?12:34
ablomenyeah12:34
MrNazwhat's so special about it?12:34
ablomendunno what the big difference is12:34
ablomenbut it does have one :P12:34
MrNazhaha12:34
ablomenhttp://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition :)12:34
ablomenoh and http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/features/kernel << the diferences between desktop kernel and server kernel12:35
ablomenanyway, the server edition always was stable for me, no real difference from using debian (i use both)12:37
ablomenthe software is just a bit more updated12:37
ablomenoh and the server editions are released once every 1,5 years if im correct, and the debian editions are released once every... century?12:38
ablomen*debian releases12:40
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kripzis there a lamp package that requires no installation and can runs off usb?13:22
ablomenkripz, for xubuntu? not readely available13:31
kripzablomen, what do you mean readily available13:32
ablomenwell you can compile webservers etc to have all files in a directory that you could put on a usb stick13:32
ablomenbut for example portableapps is just windows atm13:33
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persihi can I talk with unregistered nickname?13:38
Myrtti#freenode13:38
Myrttiummm13:39
Myrttiyes13:39
Myrttisorry13:39
Myrttigot distracted13:39
persican anyone recommend me a music player for xubuntu or is it offtopic here?13:40
ablomenrhythmbox is good13:40
Myrttiexaile, audacious, mpd13:41
ablomenand the 1200 others that are good too13:41
ablomenit depends on your system and what kind of music player you want13:41
Myrttiyup13:42
ablomenwinamp like, itunes like, just enough features, more features youll ever need13:42
persi=) yeah seems so, just want somewhere to start, I`m on pentIII 1ghz laptop with I think  256mb of ram13:42
persiwinamp like would be fine13:42
persiwith just enough features13:42
persinot even library13:42
Myrttiaudacious then13:43
ablomenwell xmms is old but a lot of people use it, i think audacious is the predecesor of that13:43
ablomen*sucsessor13:43
persixmms isnt available to me for some reason, so i installed xmms2 and tried  some clients for it, but they wouldnt work fine13:43
Myrttiaudacious is cool13:44
persithank you for your advice, since your so patient, how about terminal replacement with minimum features? anything cooler than mrxvt?13:44
persiI`m currently being converted from winXP so I`m kind of newbie here13:45
ablomenterminator is quite nice (you can have multiple terminals in one screen with that)13:46
Myrttixubuntu comes with xfce4-terminal by default13:46
Myrttiit's ok and has the basic features13:46
MyrttiI use the bleeding-edge version of terminator, though.13:46
persiI have a problem with the default one, its symbols are distorted, it started when I fixed the usual resolution problem13:48
persiso we come to the next question, fonts look blurry to me, is it usual for xubuntu? because they look sharp on login screen13:49
persiI have a dell c600 laptop with 1400x1050, might there be a problem with that?13:50
ablomenpersi, settings manager -> userinterface13:50
ablomenand then look at font-rendereing13:50
persiwow subpixel rendering looks very neat! thanks a lot!13:52
ablomennp :)13:53
persijeez spent two days trying to beat advice of some local linuxoid friend and you are so helpful, how great it is13:53
ablomenMyrtti, has the current version a lot more functionallity then the one in the repo's?13:54
ablomenpersi, yeah we people rock :P (j/k)13:54
MyrttiI don't even remember using the one in the repos :-P13:55
ablomenlol ok :P13:55
ablomenhmm might try it then13:55
AlexCONRADafter an automatic (preseed) install, going in Applications > System > Network shows that my eth0 is not enabled by default. How can I change this? Really my question is: when i'll check the "enable this conection" checkbox, which setting/config file is it modifing on disk so I can reproduce this setup on my automated installation disk (customized alternate CD)14:20
johanjofhello14:22
johanjofI just wondered how do you guys search into a ps file because gv doesnt do that14:22
johanjofany idea please ?14:22
johanjofnote that you can say yes or no :)14:24
AlexCONRADno14:24
AlexCONRAD:)14:24
johanjofyou use gv then ?14:24
AlexCONRADno :)14:24
johanjofevince ??!!14:24
AlexCONRADno14:24
AlexCONRADUntil now, I didn't have to search in a ps file. :)14:25
AlexCONRADand what's a ps file ?14:25
AlexCONRADpostscript?14:25
johanjoflol14:25
johanjofyes14:25
AlexCONRADprinting related ?14:25
johanjofno14:25
johanjofyou know the world is not all about pdf14:26
AlexCONRADi don't know ps, so im' innocent14:27
AlexCONRADheh14:27
johanjofyes its you we saw you ! :D14:27
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ablomenAlexCONRAD, /etc/network/interfaces?14:32
AlexCONRADablomen: aaah, a hint!14:32
AlexCONRADablomen: i'm asking the same questions on #ubuntu, but there are so many conversations going on, your question just get's flooded14:33
ablomenhehe yeah #ubuntu is impossible14:33
ablomenauto eth0 <enter> iface eth0 inet dhcp << is what i have14:33
AlexCONRADyour my saver, there a man page man 5 interfaces14:33
AlexCONRADthanks ablomen, it pretty different from redhat's mechanisms14:34
AlexCONRADwhich i'm used to14:34
ablomenAlexCONRAD, get LPI in a nutshell from oreilly, they have all that stuff in there for both redhat and debian :)14:35
ablomenreally great book14:35
ablomennot that i mind you asking btw :P14:35
AlexCONRADi'll buy the book ablomen14:42
AlexCONRADthanks for the recommandation14:42
ablomennp :)14:42
persiok people, rock on, here are another 2: how to see the list of (recently) installed programs that didnt appear in Applications menu14:58
ablomenpersi, aptitude gives you a full list14:59
persiand how to type in alternative languages14:59
ablomensecond one im not sure, i know there is a keyboard layout switcher applet (right click on panel -> add new item ->keyboard layout switcher)15:00
ablomendunno if thats all you have to do15:01
persiкруто15:04
persiЖВ15:04
persi:D15:04
persiwell that was the proof, thank you :)15:04
persiactually had to play with keyboard properties, where to set up hotkeys for layout switcher btw? is it themes in keyboard properties?15:05
persiand how to get WIN buttun to function?15:06
persiand is there a way to remove redundant dependencies along with package?15:08
persiand how to get mouse wheel to scroll faster? as a side note, where to get drivers, for example, for my microsoft (sorry) intellipoint?15:11
testridehi there15:13
testridecan i run xubuntu with copy to ram ? and how much ramwould i need ( if its possible )15:14
testride!copy to ram15:14
ubottuFactoid copy to ram not found15:15
testridehmm15:15
testridei guess not\15:22
xTOGxanybody home?15:23
ablomen<persi> and is there a way to remove redundant dependencies along with package? << sudo apt-get auto-remove15:34
persiwhat`s the difference between apt-get and aptitude?15:35
ablomenwell people say aptitude is more reliable, dunno if thats true, i always use apt-get out of habbit15:35
persiE: Invalid operation auto-remove15:36
ablomenoh and aptitude has a srry without the dash15:36
ablomenok again15:36
ablomen*sorry without the dash15:36
ablomen*aptitude also has a ncurses front-end15:36
ablomenwhich apt doesnt have15:37
persi0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded15:37
persiso what it does?15:37
ablomenok then there are no dependancies that arnt used15:38
persiI had in mind to remove konsole with all the garbage it brought with itself15:38
persiso I should 1st remove konsole itself15:38
persithen run it again?15:38
ablomenyeah you can try that15:38
ablomendunno what the (reverse) dependencies of the kde-libs are15:38
persihope Kopete doesnt use them15:39
ablomenyeah it does use kde libs15:39
ablomenkde apps == kde libs15:39
persi-_-15:41
ablomenthats one more reason why i avoid everything with a K at the beginning15:41
persiwell autoremove doesnt smell em15:41
persiso there are no exceptions regarding k?15:41
persiim fine with pidgin but it doesnt hold the connection for some reason, and kopete does15:42
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ablomenlol yeah there are some apps starting with K that arnt kde/qt apps ;)15:42
Riottasudo apt-get autoremove15:42
Riottanot auo-remove15:43
ablomen<ablomen> *sorry without the dash << :)15:43
persithx Riotta, weve already figured that15:43
Riottakk :)15:43
Riottaso what you want to do ?15:44
Riotta:P15:44
persiweee diediedie kopete15:44
Riottaapt-get remove kde*15:44
persi83mb freed without it15:44
Riottayou can use purge function also15:44
persithanks, useful command15:44
Riottatbh15:46
Riottasudo apt-get remove adept adept-batch adept-common adept-installer adept-manager adept-notifier adept-updater akregator amarok amarok-xine apport-qt ark arts brltty cdrdao cryptsetup debtags desktop-effects-kde digikam dolphin enscript foomatic-db-gutenprint gdebi-kde gnupg-agent gpgsm gtk-qt-engine gwenview hpijs-ppds hplip-gui ijsgutenprint jockey-kde k3b kaddressbook kaffeine kamera karm katapult kate kbstate kcontrol kcron kde-guidance kde-gui15:46
Riottadance-powermanager kde-icons-mono kde-style-qtcurve kde-systemsettings kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdebase-bin kdebase-bin-kde3 kdebase-data kdebase-kio-plugins kdebluetooth kdegraphics-kfile-plugins kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-kio-plugins kdepim-kresources kdepim-wizards kdeprint kdesktop kdesudo kdm kdnssd keep kfind kghostview khelpcen15:46
Riottater kicker kio-apt kio-locate kio-umountwrapper kipi-plugins klipper kmag kmail kmailcvt kmenuedit kmilo kmix kmousetool kmplayer-base kmplayer-konq-plugins knetworkconf knotes konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins konsole kontact konversation kooka kopete korganizer kpdf kpf kppp krdc krfb kscreensaver ksmserver ksnapshot ksvg ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog ktorrent kubuntu-artwork-usplash kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-do15:46
Riottacs kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts kvkbd kwalletmanager kwin kwin-style-crystal language-selector-qt launchpad-integration libakode2 libao2 libarts1-akode libarts1c2a libartsc0 libaudio2 libavahi-qt3-1 libclucene0ldbl libcurl3 libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libdirectfb-1.0-0 libept0 libexiv2-2 libfftw3-3 libflac++6 libgmp3c2 libgpgme11 libgpod-common libgpod3-nogtk libicu38 libifp4 libijs-0.35 libjpeg-progs libk3b2 libkbluetooth0 libkcal2b libkcddb1 libkdcraw3 libk15:46
Riottadepim1a libkexiv2-3 libkipi0 libkleopatra1 libkmime2 libkonq4 libkpimexchange1 libkpimidentities1 libksba8 libkscan1 libksieve0 libktnef1 liblua50 liblualib50 libmimelib1c2a libmodplug0c2 libmpcdec3 libmtp7 libmusicbrainz4c2a libmysqlclient15of15:47
Riotta:P sorry15:47
Myrttiyou were just about to get muted15:47
Myrtti:-/15:47
RiottaI should pastebin it :<15:48
Riottahttp://pastebin.ca/104389315:48
persihmm some guy writes that xfce is slow, what do you think is a spec past which it is better to use gnome/KDE?16:04
persiI`m on 1ghz, 256mb RAM btw16:04
Riottaxfce will be way faster than gnome or kde16:10
Riottaif you want something more faster and less usable you should concern Fluxbox, blackbox, openbox16:10
Riottapersi: xfce has really small memory footprint and cpu usage even has apps like music player which is designed to be low profile16:11
Riottaxfmedia it's called16:11
persithanks, less usable would be too much :)16:14
persixfmedia isnt installed yet16:14
persigettin it16:14
persiwow looks cool16:15
persijust losing track of all those packages16:15
AlexCONRADhow would you recommend setting up an .sh script that requires root privilege and should be launched during PC start up?16:30
AlexCONRAD/etc/rc.local?16:30
RiottaAlexCONRAD: yes16:36
Riottarc.local would be good16:37
AlexCONRADRiotta: thanks. If I remember well, this is only executed on each boot. If a user logs out and logs in again, it won't be execute, right ?16:38
Riottayes16:38
AlexCONRADgreat16:38
Riottamake sure that both this script and rc.local has executable flag (chmod +x file)16:38
AlexCONRADRiotta: is has16:39
AlexCONRADboth do16:39
Riottakk16:39
AlexCONRADtnxtnx16:39
Riottanpnp16:39
Riotta:D16:39
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persiok now, wanna bother with mouse, I fixed the speed of scrolling problem for firefox, but would like a more general solution, are there any?17:25
persiI mean, for flexible set up of extra buttons and wheel17:25
persihopefully witout editing of confs17:26
Riottapersi: logitech ?17:42
Riottamouse17:42
persiM$17:42
RiottaIE 3.0 ?17:42
persihuh? not really, firefox17:43
Riottamouse17:43
persiintellimouse17:43
RiottaIntellimouse 3.017:43
Riottaor different ?17:43
persisorry, theres new explorer one i believe17:43
persiah, .1117:43
persi1.117:43
persi1.1a17:43
Riottaah 1.1a17:43
Riottaw817:43
persiwhats w8, never seen that17:44
Riottahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=171396&page=217:44
Riottaw8 = wait17:44
Riottaunfortunetly not gui configuration cause you can't configure it by gui but it's a howto17:45
persiah thanks, shame on me17:45
Riottalinux isn't like click and run sometimes it's alot easier to edit some config than click it17:46
persiyeah, I was used to it in dos times - before like 96th, but now it is hard to catch up17:46
persibtw noob question, what does the ring that is at the header of each window does17:47
persibutton17:47
persione at the left17:47
persitheres picture in the corner and that button with circle to the right from it17:48
Riottain xfce ?17:49
RiottaI think it pins windows on all virtual desktops17:49
RiottaI'm not using this cause my window border theme haven't got it atall17:50
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assassain101I need some help with my alt disk.19:31
assassain101Apparently, the live CD for Xubuntu won't run on my machine, (I can only get the desktop to boot if I use safe graphics mode and it is SLOOOOOOW)19:32
assassain101So, I downloaded the iso for the alt install, and after burning it, it wasn't even detected by my machine.  So I guess what I'm asking is...can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong with burning it?19:33
assassain101I don't have admin rights on this machine so my usual ISO burner can't be installed, and I accidently removed windows on the computer I want to install it on.19:34
assassain101So, I found this one data disc burner already installed on here.  It has some crazy options though I've never seen before...19:34
y4ndexxInfraRecorder doesn't need installation, IIRC.19:38
assassain101It would appear so.19:41
assassain101Thank you.19:41
assassain101It says "No recorders available".19:58
assassain101After I selected the iso to burn.19:58
raidohhi20:19
raidohhow to see the lan?20:19
Odd-rationaleraidoh: try iwconfig, ifconfig, or iwlist scanning20:28
kerihi20:48
Odd-rationale!hi | keri20:48
ubottukeri: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!20:48
kerii got a kodak easy share camera and i pluged it in but nothing showed up, not even a drive... any help is appreciated.20:48
Odd-rationalehmm. try unplugging it. plugging it back. then pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"20:51
Odd-rationalekeri: ^20:53
kerii know20:53
keriim working on it.. bout to paste now20:53
Odd-rationaleok. sorry.20:53
kerihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/19125/20:55
kerihey, should i have the camera on when i unplugged it then plugged it back in?20:56
Odd-rationalei think you should turn it off, unplug, plug, turn on20:56
kerino change anyway... would a hub make it not be detected.. 1 usb to 4?20:57
keriim using a hub20:57
Odd-rationalekeri: well, it would be best if you plugged dirrectly20:58
Odd-rationalejust to take further complications out of the equation...20:58
Odd-rationalekeri: so your camer simply has a vfat filesystem?20:59
kerinot sure20:59
keriya no change from being off of the hub or not.. the camera says its connected to the media21:00
Odd-rationalekeri: is it an older camera? most newer ones supprt usb mass storage...21:00
keriso i dont know why its not picking it up... where do i go to check on connected usb devices?  xubuntu is stripped out so i usually use hardware manager21:00
keri2years old21:01
Volkodavsudo lsusb21:01
Volkodavdoes it show there?21:01
Odd-rationaleolder camera uses the Picture Transfer Protocol (PTP). you would need something like gthmbs for that...21:01
Odd-rationalegthumb21:02
Volkodavgphoto2 works too21:02
keriyes lsusb shows Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000021:02
VolkodavIt did not recognize it as Kodak?21:03
kerihold on that was off mode.. on mode is going to have to be  another pastebin thing brb21:03
keriyes it does21:03
keriit says kodak co. now21:03
keriBus 001 Device 009: ID 040a:05aa Kodak Co.21:03
keriBus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:000021:03
Volkodavwhat's the model ?21:04
keric43321:04
kerihows it going?>21:06
Volkodavhttp://www.teaser.fr/~hfiguiere/linux/digicam.html21:06
Volkodavit's not on the list21:07
Volkodavbut I will still try21:07
Volkodavit uses p2p2 driver21:08
Volkodavhttp://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?group_id=8874&release_id=52857121:09
Volkodavsudo apt-get install gphoto221:10
keriok ill try that program21:10
Volkodavit is cli based though but helped me before with Kodaks and Canons21:11
keriaww man21:12
kerii need easy21:12
kerithis is for a customer.21:12
Volkodavand then run gphoto2 --auto-detect21:13
Volkodavit is easy ti use21:13
Volkodavgphoto2 --summary21:13
Volkodavdo it as root though21:13
Volkodavyour customer will need one command actually ==> gphoto2 --get-all-files21:14
Volkodavthat's all21:14
Volkodav]it will dl pics and video if any21:14
keriwhere does the pictures go21:14
Volkodavwhichever directory you fire the command from21:15
Volkodavhttp://gphoto.sourceforge.net/doc/manual/using-gphoto2.html21:15
keriim having issues even installing the program.. i said yes to it to install but it is not done for some reasone it take forevfer21:15
Volkodavany errors?21:16
kerinop-e just still waiting for it to say its installed21:16
VolkodavI just installed it on my box in a snap21:16
kerishould i see any input after i say yes to install it?21:17
Volkodavyes21:17
keriwell its still just sitting here21:17
kerii already aborted once21:17
kerithank you for your help.  ill do this someother time.21:18
Volkodavhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/19131/21:18
Volkodavok21:18
keriya its having issues with going to russia to get the files21:18
* Volkodav hopes keri did install as root21:19
kerinot with sudo .. with gksudo my friend :))21:19
VolkodavI use just su21:20
Volkodavmatter of fact21:20
kerilol21:20
kerithanks21:20
* Volkodav wonders what the heck is gksudo ?21:21
Myrttiinstalled as root?21:22
Myrtti/me shudders21:22
Myrttigksudo is the graphical frontend to sudo which is used in xubuntu and ubuntu21:22
Volkodavyeah - I want to have my root in console21:22
Volkodavwhen I need it21:22
Myrttiwhat's wrong with sudo -i21:23
VolkodavI am old school21:23
VolkodavI do sudo passwd21:23
Myrtti!noroot21:23
ubottuWe don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)21:23
Volkodavand I have my root21:23
Volkodavnah21:23
Volkodavlet them play with sudos21:24
Volkodavthen21:24
Myrttiplease, let them :-)21:24
Volkodavyeah why nt21:24
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AlexCONRADhi, what's the package that provides "Applications > System > Hardware Drivers" ?23:52

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