| pygi | hey folks | 01:20 |
|---|---|---|
| pygi | any of you coming to akademy? | 01:20 |
| nixternal | I wish I was going to akademy | 01:44 |
| pygi | ah, hi nixternal ! | 01:45 |
| pygi | why not? :) | 01:45 |
| pygi | Nightrose, wake up :) | 01:53 |
| nosrednaekim | uhhh are there python-bindings packes yet? (sorry, I was away for two days) | 02:28 |
| ScottK | nixternal: I have a spec for you (just read your blog). | 02:58 |
| * nixternal shivers in fear | 02:58 | |
| ScottK | nixternal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerFlavorSpec might be useful to you if we can pull it off. | 02:58 |
| nixternal | I will take a gander at it | 02:59 |
| * ScottK can just hear nixternal saying, "Gee boss, if you'd let me put a little work time in on helping with this spec, it'd save us a ton of time and money on deployments." | 02:59 | |
| ScottK | That and then we can conspire to make sure the tools are available for qt4, but not gtk2. | 03:00 |
| vorian | nixternal: blog typo!!!!!! | 03:47 |
| vorian | oh noes!!!!!! | 03:47 |
| nixternal | what was the typo? | 03:49 |
| vorian | first bold heading | 03:49 |
| vorian | Big Ban | 03:49 |
| * vorian thought this was pm | 03:50 | |
| vorian | sorry about that ;? | 03:50 |
| vorian | pfft | 03:50 |
| vorian | can't type | 03:50 |
| nixternal | thanks, fixed it | 03:51 |
| * ScottK just figured he was in trouble at work already. | 03:51 | |
| vorian | look what I've been cleaning up all day | 03:51 |
| vorian | http://vorian.org/?p=228 | 03:51 |
| vorian | damn powerline came down | 03:52 |
| vorian | the power company let the mother live for 5 hours! | 03:52 |
| ScottK | Kewl. | 03:53 |
| vorian | yeah! | 03:54 |
| ScottK | How's the insurance policy looking? | 03:54 |
| vorian | good, they'll cover everything | 03:54 |
| DaSkreech | I forget | 04:48 |
| DaSkreech | was a kubuntu release done for the last Koffice Alpha? | 04:48 |
| stdin | DaSkreech: I think it keeps failing to build | 05:18 |
| DaSkreech | ok | 05:18 |
| stdin | latest in the repos is still 1.9.95.3 (ie: old) | 05:18 |
| * DaSkreech chuckles at FOSS | 05:21 | |
| Nightrose | morning :) | 06:44 |
| Nightrose | pygi: I am awake now :P | 06:45 |
| Nightrose | what did you want? | 06:45 |
| DaSkreech | An autograph | 06:48 |
| * DaSkreech presents Mike to be signed | 06:48 | |
| Nightrose | :P | 06:50 |
| \sh | bah...pykde4 you suck...http://www.mail-archive.com/pyqt@riverbankcomputing.com/msg13895.html | 07:29 |
| \sh | Sime: pykde4 trunk: cmake error in SIPmacros.cmake, string sub-command REPLACE requires four arguments. (it's cmake 2.6foo version from kdesupport) | 07:53 |
| \sh | hmm..it works somehow when cmake started from kdebindings root dir ;) | 08:03 |
| Arby | morning all | 08:15 |
| pygi | NickNak, nothing much, just trying to organize in group, so though there'll be kubuntu group | 09:31 |
| pygi | ergh | 09:32 |
| pygi | Nightrose* | 09:32 |
| Nightrose | pygi: ah ;-) | 09:33 |
| Nightrose | i am already in the girls group | 09:33 |
| Nightrose | and was in the amarok group before | 09:34 |
| pygi | amarok group is big xD | 09:34 |
| Nightrose | hehe yea | 09:34 |
| pygi | 14 people | 09:34 |
| Nightrose | and probably a few who didn't join the group | 09:34 |
| pygi | yup | 09:34 |
| pygi | I should probably just register without a group | 09:34 |
| Nightrose | hmmm /me will have to poke some people so they register | 09:35 |
| Nightrose | pygi: yea probably best | 09:35 |
| pygi | Nightrose, are you at Z or R hostel? | 09:36 |
| Nightrose | Roosendael | 09:36 |
| pygi | ah, so you registered early :p | 09:37 |
| Nightrose | jea like 4 hours after registration was open ;-) | 09:37 |
| pygi | ha! | 09:37 |
| pygi | theres one bed missing on Tuesday, otherwise I could register there as well :-/ | 09:37 |
| pygi | ups | 09:37 |
| pygi | on Saturday | 09:37 |
| Nightrose | had a free minute while working at the booth at linuxtag | 09:38 |
| Nightrose | so i did it | 09:38 |
| Nightrose | you can get a bed somewhere else for that day | 09:38 |
| pygi | bleh, that means moving somewhere instead of talking about good things =) | 09:39 |
| Nightrose | ;-) true | 09:39 |
| pygi | I'm getting a bed somewhere else for the last two days anyway :p | 09:39 |
| pygi | why this payment page couldnt be in english xD | 09:45 |
| Riddell | pygi: it is if you change your country | 09:46 |
| pygi | ah, true! | 09:46 |
| pygi | Riddell, you're coming I guess, and still no kubuntu group? :) | 09:47 |
| Riddell | I am | 09:47 |
| pygi | Riddell, how come there's no kubuntu group? :) | 09:48 |
| Riddell | for sleeping? I like to sleep with random people, spread the love | 09:48 |
| * pygi knows very little KDE people actually | 09:49 | |
| pygi | few* | 09:49 |
| \sh | pygi: all dancers and singers (well at least one of them ;)) | 09:55 |
| pygi | \sh, heh :p | 10:03 |
| etretyak | hi everyone | 10:57 |
| Riddell | morning etretyak | 11:00 |
| \sh | bah | 11:02 |
| \sh | I don't get pykde4 build ... neither our version, nor the svn version... | 11:02 |
| * Serega waves | 11:14 | |
| \sh | oh another try | 11:15 |
| \sh | there's hope | 11:15 |
| \sh | Riddell: btw..how do you deal with quilt and "new files"? e.g you need to add a new file, via diff,... | 11:16 |
| \sh | quilt add newfile -> add some things to newfile, quilt refresh doesn't help for me | 11:17 |
| Riddell | diff -u old new | 11:19 |
| Riddell | diff -u old new > foo | 11:19 |
| Riddell | echo foo > debian/patches/series | 11:20 |
| \sh | ok...so the dirty method ;) | 11:20 |
| \sh | I thought there is a sane way to tell quilt to behave :) | 11:20 |
| \sh | whooosaaaa...pykde4 builds | 11:25 |
| Riddell | yay | 11:27 |
| \sh | never ask me questions about how I did that now... | 11:27 |
| * \sh has to check .bash_history ;) | 11:28 | |
| \sh | something between praying and moving files from pykde4/sip/* svn trunk to our packages and adding some magic fixes found on the pykde4 ml | 11:28 |
| \sh | oh damn...too early to be happy: | 11:31 |
| \sh | sipkhtmlpart10.cpp: In function 'PyObject* meth_DOM_DOMString_characters(PyObject*, PyObject*)': | 11:31 |
| \sh | sipkhtmlpart10.cpp:689: error: 'class DOM::DOMString' has no member named 'characters' | 11:31 |
| \sh | getting rid of it...and go back to start and don't catch 4k € | 11:35 |
| \sh | woohoo...pykde4 python2.5 build finished...now for python2.4...after that testing and uploading to ppa | 12:18 |
| \sh | hmmm...are our kde4.1beta packages rpathed? | 12:49 |
| \sh | dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library libkdeui.so.5 needed by debian/python-kde4/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/PyKDE4/kdeui.so (its RPATH is ''). | 12:49 |
| Riddell | in hardy should be yes | 12:51 |
| \sh | why doesn't it work then... | 12:52 |
| === Czessi_ is now known as Czessi | ||
| \sh | trying now with dh_shlibdeps -l<path to kde4 libdir> | 12:53 |
| \sh | it's the last bug...:( | 12:53 |
| emonkey | gogogo *cheers* | 12:54 |
| \sh | emonkey: /me needs to "redo" everything he did to get that package working..because right now, it's more a mess then a debian package | 12:55 |
| emonkey | sounds awful | 12:55 |
| smarter | \sh: you can see the RPATH with chrpath | 13:05 |
| \sh | smarter: it doesn't help when dpkg-shlibdeps is failing ;) | 13:13 |
| \sh | press thumbs..that it works now | 13:29 |
| \sh | sudo dpkg -i python-kde4_4.0.3-0ubuntu1.3~hardy1~ppa1_amd64.deb python-kde4-dev_4.0.3-0ubuntu1.3~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb python-kde4-doc_4.0.3-0ubuntu1.3~hardy1~ppa1_all.deb | 13:35 |
| \sh | installation: works | 13:36 |
| \sh | KDE Launchpad Bugs | 13:39 |
| \sh | Version 0.1 | 13:39 |
| \sh | Using KDE 4.00.80 (KDE 4.0.80 >= (KDE 4.1 Beta1) | 13:39 |
| \sh | STRIKE! | 13:39 |
| \sh | now I'm uploading the crap to kubuntu-members-kde4 ppa and then I will try to find out why no menu text is set... | 13:42 |
| \sh | and fixing the package later to be sane again | 13:42 |
| \sh | there it goes | 13:43 |
| \sh | [PPA kubuntu-members-kde4] Accepted: python-kde4 4:4.0.3-0ubuntu1.3~hardy1~ppa1 (source) phew | 13:45 |
| Riddell | the no menu text is a known bug with older versions of pykde | 13:47 |
| \sh | Riddell: hmm..how do we overcome that? | 13:49 |
| Riddell | update to a newer version | 13:50 |
| \sh | ah | 13:50 |
| \sh | oxygene | 13:50 |
| \sh | oxygen bug | 13:50 |
| raphink | hi \sh & Riddell | 13:51 |
| Hobbsee | Nightrose: nice kitten pic you managed to find there. | 13:51 |
| raphink | & hi Hobbsee | 13:51 |
| Nightrose | Hobbsee: ;-) | 13:51 |
| \sh | moins raphink :) | 13:51 |
| \sh | Riddell: the only new version i can find is that what's in the svn trunk of kde | 13:51 |
| Nightrose | Hobbsee: i have a whole folder with pics like that one :P | 13:52 |
| Hobbsee | raphink! | 13:52 |
| Hobbsee | Nightrose: heh | 13:52 |
| \sh | Riddell: and it's not compiling cleanly...via kdebindings...(i just used some of the new stuff sime commited to it to make it actually build for kde4.1) | 13:52 |
| Riddell | \sh: that and kdebindings releases | 13:52 |
| Riddell | hi raphink | 13:52 |
| \sh | I wonder where Jim has it's own repository of it | 13:53 |
| jjesse | morning | 13:53 |
| Riddell | on his hard disk | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: please sponsor http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/235 and remove the source package of kopete-plugin-otr-kde4 | 13:57 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: oh, and if you have time, please backport quassel to hardy | 13:58 |
| apachelogger | build log: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15196506/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.quassel_0.2.0%7Ebeta1-0ubuntu2%7Ehardy1%7Eppa1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz | 13:58 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: It'd be much preferred if you filed that backports bug rather than randomly poke Riddell on IRC for backports. | 13:59 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: go file a backports bug :P | 14:00 |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: ok then! | 14:00 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: ok | 14:00 |
| \sh | ScottK: bug #234574 ;) | 14:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 234574 in claws-mail-extra-plugins "[Backport Request] claws-mail + claws-mail-extra-plugins from intrepid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/234574 | 14:00 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: considering I am in the -backports team, would I still have to file a bug? | 14:00 |
| jpds | apachelogger: yes. | 14:02 |
| apachelogger | omg | 14:02 |
| jussi01 | jpds: shhh... its quassel ;) | 14:02 |
| jpds | But you can just +1 it in the bug report | 14:02 |
| * apachelogger appoints jussi01 to his personal backport bug reporter | 14:02 | |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Yes. Please. I do it too. | 14:02 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I've been stuck more than once trying to figure out WTF on some backports issue where having even a minimal paper trial in LP would have been very nice. | 14:03 |
| jussi01 | what package does it need to be reported against? quassel? | 14:05 |
| \sh | hardy backports + quassel imho | 14:05 |
| ScottK | jussi01: Just hardy-backports | 14:06 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: ummm.. "hardy-backports" does not exist in Ubuntu. Please choose a different package. If you're unsure, please select "I don't know" | 14:08 |
| Riddell | bugs.launchpad.net/hardy-backports | 14:08 |
| jussi01 | hrm... | 14:09 |
| ScottK | Ubuntu Backports initially was on Sourceforge and only later came to Launchpad. It's a separate project from a LP perspective. | 14:11 |
| ScottK | You can still find the old project on Sourceforge if you want to delve into ancient history. | 14:11 |
| jussi01 | ok, so simply, what do I put int the feild: In what package did you find this bug? | 14:12 |
| jussi01 | it does not accept hardy-backports | 14:12 |
| ScottK | jussi01: Go to hardy-backports project and file the bug there. | 14:12 |
| jussi01 | kk | 14:12 |
| jussi01 | bug 239165 | 14:13 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 239165 in hardy-backports "Please backport Quassel " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/239165 | 14:13 |
| * ScottK looks | 14:14 | |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: ^ | 14:14 |
| ScottK | To get it approved, someone needs to say it builds, installs, and runs. Presumablye apachelogger can do that and approve it. | 14:14 |
| ScottK | Just imagine I spelled presumably correctly there. | 14:14 |
| * \sh just locks up his brain now | 14:15 | |
| \sh | and waits for pykde4 to finish building ..... dumdumdumdedummkubuntudumdedum | 14:15 |
| jussi01 | ScottK: Ill presume you spelled it correctly | 14:15 |
| * jussi01 gets coat | 14:16 | |
| jussi01 | apachelogger: is the packaging the same as mine still? | 14:17 |
| jussi01 | or have you made changes to it? | 14:18 |
| \sh | well, for quassel...you have to change packaging in the future...no more qmake juice, but cmake love | 14:18 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: done | 14:19 |
| jussi01 | brb | 14:19 |
| nosrednaekim | hey | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | jussi01: I don't know your packaging | 14:19 |
| apachelogger | \sh: yeah, that is one line in rules and adapting the .install files ;-) | 14:20 |
| \sh | apachelogger: bah...cdbs is *censored* | 14:20 |
| apachelogger | :P | 14:21 |
| nosrednaekim | hey guys,,, i've been away for a couple days... has anyone packaged the python plasma bindings? | 14:21 |
| apachelogger | the what? | 14:21 |
| \sh | http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu/pool/main/p/python-kde4/ <---- YEEHA | 14:22 |
| apachelogger | how is python-kde4 related to plasma? | 14:22 |
| ScottK | It's not. He's been working on it. | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | well | 14:23 |
| apachelogger | I am confused | 14:23 |
| * apachelogger hides | 14:23 | |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: where are the python plasma bindings? | 14:24 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell:within python-bindings I think | 14:24 |
| nosrednaekim | *kdebindings | 14:24 |
| \sh | nosrednaekim: in kdebindings/python/ there is only pykde4 and krosspython | 14:25 |
| nosrednaekim | I think krosspython does it | 14:25 |
| \sh | na | 14:26 |
| \sh | it's something for interpretating python in c++ as sime yesterday told us | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | I really think this is exactly what is necessary | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | IIRC the javascript stuff for plasma also uses kross | 14:28 |
| apachelogger | though, that would lead to the question where krosspython is | 14:28 |
| === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato | ||
| apachelogger | as I packaged it just a few weeks before hardy :P | 14:28 |
| \sh | lol | 14:29 |
| nosrednaekim | well, I need it for 4.1 | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | ah | 14:30 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: is kdebindings 4.0.80 not merged yet? | 14:31 |
| \sh | crap... | 14:34 |
| \sh | eric4 is now b0rked | 14:34 |
| \sh | because of qscintilla...*grmpf* | 14:35 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: waiting on qscintilla MIR | 14:35 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: it's kde4bindings | 14:36 |
| nosrednaekim | apachelogger: oh BTW... i'm on hardy, not intrepid, so i'm using the PPA | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: ok, thanks | 14:36 |
| * \sh goes now for qscintilla for ppa | 14:37 | |
| \sh | Riddell: how much quota do we have for the -kde4 ppa? | 14:37 |
| Riddell | \sh: lots | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | nosrednaekim: maybe kdebindings didn't get backported | 14:39 |
| \sh | apachelogger: eventually it will fail...check kdesvn for kdebindings when sime commited the changes for 4.1 (pykde4) | 14:39 |
| nosrednaekim | apachelogger: nixternal did say he was having problems with it. | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | no krosspython for nosrednaekim then | 14:40 |
| nosrednaekim | which means no tutorial session :( | 14:41 |
| Riddell | nosrednaekim: is there an example I can test? | 14:41 |
| nosrednaekim | yeah.. I keep forgetting where it is in websvn though | 14:45 |
| jjesse | does strigi work in kde 4.1 beta? | 14:46 |
| \sh | qscintilla2_2.2-2ubuntu1.1~hardy1~ppa1 uploaded to ppa | 14:48 |
| nosrednaekim | Riddell: wow... I can't find it... maybe someone removed it (which seems pretty unlikely) | 14:52 |
| \sh | nosrednaekim: playground/base/plasma/scriptengines/kross/ ? | 14:53 |
| nixternal | nosrednaekim: check under playground/base/plasma/applets/scripts | 14:57 |
| flaccid- | nixternal, what can i do about a user in #kubuntu that won't accept the shortcomings of flash? | 14:57 |
| nixternal | flaccid-: who is it? | 14:58 |
| flaccid- | <Rioting_pacifist> | 14:58 |
| flaccid- | i'd like to ignore but its hard.. | 14:58 |
| flaccid- | keeps going on and on | 14:58 |
| nixternal | k, will keep an eye out when I can...sitting in meetings all morning | 14:58 |
| flaccid- | np mate | 14:59 |
| flaccid- | hopefully user will stop :) | 14:59 |
| flaccid- | hmmm im thinking the /me raises an eyebrow is better strategy than a message | 15:00 |
| flaccid- | nixternal, you might wanna kick this culprit atm but in the chan <administrator> #Arkor-Easy Boxxx A 4OO | 15:01 |
| flaccid- | all good now | 15:01 |
| nosrednaekim | nixternal: nothing there | 15:01 |
| * flaccid- sighs a relief | 15:04 | |
| \sh | phew... | 15:04 |
| \sh | eric4 runs again | 15:04 |
| \sh | now we have a working python environment back again ;) | 15:06 |
| jpds | flaccid-: feel free to raise operator concerns in #ubuntu-irc | 15:06 |
| flaccid- | jpds, this is kubuntu | 15:08 |
| nosrednaekim | flaccid-: yeah... they work with #kubuntu too | 15:11 |
| flaccid- | i know that but its a matter of response | 15:11 |
| \sh | Riddell: python-kde4 for intrepid was never recompiled against 4.0.80 packages, right? | 15:35 |
| \sh | Copied from ubuntu hardy in Primary Archive for Ubuntu <- fun | 15:35 |
| * \sh will redo the work properly for intrepid package tomorrow somehow... | 15:36 | |
| Riddell | \sh: intrepid uses kde4bindings | 15:36 |
| \sh | Riddell: ah... | 15:36 |
| sevtoul | I think there's a spelling mistake in the package kdesdk-dbg-kde4, it says that kdebasAe-runtime-dbg is required so the package is broken | 15:39 |
| sevtoul | of course, I talking about the ppa.launchpad package in hardy with kde4.1 | 15:41 |
| sevtoul | (sorry for my english...) | 15:41 |
| sevtoul | any idea ? | 15:43 |
| Riddell | sounds like a bug indeed, probably not one we'll have time to fix | 15:44 |
| sevtoul | ok nevermind, I just installed all dependencies | 15:45 |
| Riddell | flaccid-: hmm? | 16:26 |
| flaccid- | sorry Riddell ? | 16:27 |
| Riddell | you called ops | 16:27 |
| yuriy | ugh kde-systemsettings *does* contain kcms? | 16:27 |
| yuriy | namely, defaultapplication | 16:27 |
| === smarter_ is now known as smarter | ||
| mendred | hi i am trying to figure out which package has the debugging symbols for kwin (kde 4.1 beta 1 packages hardy). I have installed kdebase-workspace-dbg and kdebase-dbg..but those dont seem to be the ones. | 18:23 |
| mendred | the kwin package is kde-window-decorator...can't seem to find a dbg package for that.. | 18:24 |
| mendred | can anyone help? | 18:24 |
| Riddell | it would be kdebase-workspace-dbg if it works, which it may well not | 18:25 |
| mendred | Riddell: i don't understamd? | 18:26 |
| mendred | *understand | 18:26 |
| mendred | i am trying to generate a backtrace...when i run ardour with around 10 -15 tracks parallely playing, kwin usage with compositing shoots to 80%.. | 18:27 |
| mendred | and the system slows down.. | 18:27 |
| mendred | so i am trying to attach gdb to kwin..and then generate a back trace | 18:27 |
| mendred | but gdb keeps complaining that there are no debugging symbols | 18:28 |
| mendred | for kwin | 18:28 |
| Riddell | kde 4 is installed to a non-standard location, the debug symbols may not work | 18:28 |
| mendred | what do you suggest that i do? | 18:28 |
| mendred | ohhhhh | 18:29 |
| mendred | then there is no way to get a backtrace? | 18:30 |
| Riddell | I don't know I'm afraid | 18:32 |
| mendred | ok.. | 18:32 |
| mendred | thanks Riddell | 18:32 |
| stdin | usually the kde crash handler will give you a backtrace | 18:34 |
| stdin | at least, it does for me | 18:34 |
| mendred | stdin: there is no crash :( | 18:35 |
| mendred | the usage shoots up | 18:35 |
| stdin | ah, well then | 18:35 |
| mendred | can i trigger a crash :) | 18:35 |
| mendred | if that will give me a trace? | 18:36 |
| mendred | or does kwin have a debug startup mode or something? | 18:36 |
| stdin | I guess you could kill kwin and run it in gdb with "gdb --args kwin --nograb --sync --nocrashhandler" | 18:38 |
| stdin | should work probably/maybe | 18:38 |
| mendred | ok will try that | 18:42 |
| === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
| mendred | thanks stdin..thats working :) | 18:53 |
| stdin | :) | 18:54 |
| jjesse | why don't kde 4 windows save my settings? example i change how the save as screen looks like and every time i open the program i have to re arrange it | 19:02 |
| jjesse | grrrrrrrr | 19:02 |
| === krawek is now known as DavidCC | ||
| supert0nes | is there any documentation for python plasmoids? It would be nice to read up before the tutuorials day | 23:27 |
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