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MachinTrucChoseFirefox 3 is out?! How come there's no major announcement (Admittedly I only checked Slashdot)00:01
HollowPointit's TC MachinTrucChose00:01
HollowPointRC*00:01
HollowPointnot the actual release00:01
MachinTrucChosewhy doesn't it say RC in the version then?00:01
HollowPointit does, lol, I updated to it this morning and it's RC2 if I remember correctly00:02
MachinTrucChoseyou'd expect a RC to be marked as such00:02
MachinTrucChosemine just says "3.0"00:02
HollowPointwhere does it just say 3.0?00:02
MachinTrucChoseHelp > About Mozilla Firefox00:02
coucoufyes, you can't see it in the browser, but the package version is RCx00:03
MachinTrucChoseI see00:03
MachinTrucChosewell, it's very uncool.00:03
coucouflol00:03
HollowPointfirefox is? Or the way they haven't stuck RC all over it?00:03
MachinTrucChosethe latter00:03
HollowPointah, well I updated mine last night to the latest RC and when I booted up this morning I was greated by a web page announcing the release of RC2, were you not given the same page?00:04
sixpenceHey, what command can I run to see what flavor of ubuntu is currently on my box?00:05
MachinTrucChosethe person previously using the computer must have gotten that00:05
geniisixpence: lsb_release -a00:06
coucoufadept will tell you the truth about firefox00:06
sixpencegenii: Danke =]00:06
geniisixpence: Bitte00:07
coucoufcool, I didn't know this command !00:07
coucoufis it ubuntu-specific ?00:07
geniicoucouf: I think all debian based dists work with it00:07
coucoufok thanks00:07
greatgiblsb c'est censé etre un referentiel du materiel pour toutes les distrib00:07
MachinTrucChoseanyway, anyone know what I should do to install a dual-boot Windows? First, can I just create a 20gb partition on an existing drive, or do I have to worry about it not being among the first 1gb or whatever of the drive (ie, bootloader issues). Also, what happens to GRUB then?00:07
genii!fr | greatgib00:08
ubottugreatgib: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr00:08
greatgibcoucouf:c'est dans le meme style que freedesktop pour le matos00:08
greatgibLol sorry, juste a coucouf specific response :)00:08
coucoufthe position of the windows partition doesn't matter you will use GRUB as a bootloader anyway00:10
coucoufbe carefull though, windows will replace GRUB so you'll have to reinstall it. Check the litterature on the subject before doing so.00:10
MachinTrucChosecoucouf: how can Windows replace GRUB if it is installed on an ext3 partition?00:13
geniiMachinTrucChose: The core part is not on some subpartition but rather the master boot record of the drive00:16
MachinTrucChosequick question, how can I delete a folder without moving to Trash? It's a 5gb file and it's trying to move it to a TRash folder on a different partition00:16
Odd-rationaleMachinTrucChose: shift+del usually works00:17
MachinTrucChosegenii: I see, OK. I thought the MBR was written on the first x megabytes of the drive. I'll read up on how to recover GRUB after installing Windows. Thanks.00:17
MachinTrucChoseOdd: I tried that in Konqueror, it didn't work...but with Dolphin it does. Cool beans.00:18
georgewpwhat program would I need to run a perl script?00:19
georgewp!perl script00:19
ubottuFactoid perl script not found00:19
georgewp!perl00:19
ubottuFactoid perl not found00:19
ekHaha.00:19
georgewpwell my system selected wine to run them00:19
georgewpfunny or not im a newb00:20
ekgeorgewp: I wasn't laughing at you. Sorry if it seemed that way.00:20
ekgeorgewp: You would just use perl to run it.00:20
georgewpk00:20
ekperl /path/to/script or just execute the script itself using /path/to/script00:20
ekAs perl's path in the executable SHOULD be correct.00:21
genii!info perl00:21
ubottuperl (source: perl): Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is standard. Version 5.8.8-12 (hardy), package size 3303 kB, installed size 11440 kB00:21
georgewpCan't locate Sort/Versions.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.8 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at curse-install line 3.00:22
georgewpBEGIN failed--compilation aborted at curse-install line 3.00:22
georgewpThats the error I got from the script00:22
ekgeorgewp: You're going to have to add the extra perl modules that the script calls for.00:23
ekgeorgewp: You can either do this inside perl itself, or use apt-get to install them.00:23
MachinTrucChoseone more question, and I'm sorry for piling them on...does resizing a partition delete its contents? ie, I have a 160gb partition with 100gb of free space. I want to create a 20gb partition, hopefully from that 100gb free space without affecting the existing60gb.00:23
ekgeorgewp: Check out: apt-cache search perl versions00:23
ekMachinTrucChose: Not if you do it correctly, no.00:24
georgewpwhat would you suggest00:24
MachinTrucChoseek: I'm using gparted for that purpose.00:24
ekMachinTrucChose: Not very familiar with it. But, my guess is your data should remain.00:24
MachinTrucChoseOK00:24
ek... as long as it isn't in the delete/relocated area anyway.00:24
ekgeorgewp: I would suggest using apt-get. That way updates to the modules will be noticed.00:25
georgewpand i cant decipher form that error which packages to get00:26
ekgeorgewp: You need Sort::Versions00:26
ekgeorgewp: It's at the beginning of the error.00:26
ekSo, the package will maybe be called something like perl5-Sort-Versions...?00:27
ekNot sure.00:27
ubuhi00:28
georgewphow would i do a search for that to find the apt-get line00:29
georgewptrying kubuntu perl5 sort versions gives me a bunch of garbage00:29
georgewpin google00:29
ekgeorgewp: I see "libsort-versions-perl"00:31
ekIn fact, I'm almost positive that's the correct package.00:32
jtismecant get streaming internet sound to play 8.04 any ideas00:32
georgewpsweet its doesnlowing and installing00:32
ekjtisme: Streaming how?00:33
Boohbahjtisme: do you have mplayerplug-in?00:33
_0tt0v0nc4t_hello, I just installed kubuntu from ubuntu, and I noticed the adept-updater when I first came into the OS but I cant seem to find a way to turn it on manually now that it has rebooted. adept manager doesnt seem to be helping me either.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?00:34
jtismeek streaming from www.wgst.com  live radio00:34
georgewpNo addons dir at curse-install line 8. damn its one thing after another with this, i supose i need to edit the file00:34
jtismeBoohbah, yes according to about:plugins00:34
ek_0tt0v0nc4t_: Open a terminal (Konsole) and type: adept_updater00:35
georgewp$ADDONS_DIR=$ENV{'ADDONS_DIR'}; <--- thats what the script is looking for and returns die "No addons dir" if !defined $ADDONS_DIR; that sucks.00:35
ek_0tt0v0nc4t_: You can also use the Adept Manager by selecting to show only updatable/upgradable packages the same way.00:35
_0tt0v0nc4t_ek: thank you00:35
ekWelcome.00:35
jtismeBoohbah, mplayer-in 3.5000:36
ekjtisme: Hrm. Haven't tried streaming radio in a long, LONG time.00:36
jtismeek thanks00:36
jhutchinsek: Some good stuff out there, lotsa garbage.00:38
ekjtisme: Make sure your volume isn't muted. :P00:38
ekjhutchins: Indeed.00:38
ekI don't have the mplayer plugin here at work. So, it's hard to test.00:39
ekAnd I'm leaving like, now-ish.00:39
jtismeek  it isnt muted i get good sound out of  cat /bin/ls >/dev/dsp00:39
ekOtherwise, I'd just install it.00:39
ekjtisme: Hrm. Okay. I wonder if mplayer isn't opening the correct audio device maybe?00:39
ekjtisme: Can you watch videos okay using mplayer?00:39
jhutchinsjtisme: You might try playing it with amarok if you have that configured, or xine (which is what amarok uses).00:40
ekYeah. That might work.00:41
jtismeek yes I can watch videos and with sound00:41
ekAlthough, I'm unsure whether wgst.com tosses out .pls files.00:41
georgewphow do i get psyn links working00:41
jtismejhutchins, i am using amarok00:42
ekjtisme: Hrm. I'm all out of ideas. I don't mess around with much media stuffs. Especially internet media stuff. =/ Sorry I couldn't be of more help.00:42
jtismeek I am not new to linux but very new to sound .pls  ??00:42
ekjtisme: The little streaming playlist files you can download.00:42
jtismeek oh ok00:42
ekTells your client what server:port to connect to for the stream.00:42
ekCheck around on their site. They might have them.00:43
jtismejhutchins, amarok says  "no suitable demux00:43
georgewpgconftool-2 -s -t string /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/psyn/command '/path/to/curse.sh "%s"' | gconftool-2 -s -t bool /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/psyn/enabled true | gconftool-2 -s -t bool /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/psyn/needs_terminal false <--- Thats what I would do to get psyn links working in gnome, what would be the commands to do such in KDE?00:43
ekWicked.00:44
lsemple2hey guyz00:44
ekI have to head home. So, good luck everyone. See you all later.00:44
lsemple2I am trying to get my kubuntu working, and because its installed on sdc1, I am having a hard time configuring grub00:44
lsemple2anyone care to help ?00:44
georgewplater EK00:45
lsemple2so far I get "Error 15: file not found" when I turn on the computer00:45
sensaeHow do I mount a hot-plugged SATA drive?00:48
lsemple2hello?00:49
greatgibsensae: if it is not automounted, i think you only have to do a basic mount commande? but the drive names start with sd instead of hd, like sda1 for exemple!00:50
georgewpanyone know how to update url link handling in kde?00:51
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keatonEvery time I download a kernel upgrade, it keeps the old one on my grub boot menu. Is there any way to prevent this and/or remove the old ones?01:06
maduserremove them from grub?01:08
maduserto remove them from grub edit the menu.lst01:09
lsemple2how do I install kubuntu to my hd ???????01:09
lsemple2live-cd ???01:09
keatonThanks, maduser.01:09
maduseryou may want to keep the old ones in grub, but just move the new ones to the top01:10
maduserthe top one will boot automaticaly01:10
keatonIt does that on it's own, but it gets irritating. I'm kind of a neat freak about my computer.01:10
madusermove the old ones below that to have backups incase of error01:11
lsemple2how do I install kubuntu to my hd ?01:11
lsemple2live cd ?01:11
keatonlsemple2: You can download the live CD, burn it onto a disc, then run it and you'll boot into what's called a live installation of Kubuntu, it runs right off the CD without even touching your HD.01:11
keatonOnce you're in there, you can run the "Install" shortcut on the desktop to install it to the hard drive.01:12
OlgemRemember to set your BIOS to boot from the installation media01:12
keatonWhat he said.01:12
lsemple2keaton: I tried the alternate installer cd and I can't boot from my kubuntu installation01:12
lsemple2grub is not set up properly01:12
maduseror the boot flag is not set to that partition01:13
keatonHuh, that's weird. I'm not sure why it wouldn't insert itself into the grub list.01:13
maduserlsemple2: multiple partions?01:13
lsemple2well its installed to sdc101:13
lsemple2sda, sdb are storage01:14
lsemple2sdc is my primary01:14
maduserwindows on the computer as well as kubunu?01:14
lsemple2I am thinking of just downloading the live cd and installing it from there01:14
lsemple2no01:14
maduseron live cd click install and then install to the hd01:15
lsemple2yeah thats probably the easiest01:15
lsemple2that alternate installer cd screwed over my xubuntu too01:16
maduserthats best for upgrades01:16
lsemple2useless cd01:16
lsemple2(well to me anyway)01:16
maduseryou download it so that you can upgrade a current instalation01:16
lsemple2I had to manually install xfce401:16
rvkhi, are there any new releases of kubuntu 8.04?01:16
lsemple2I am on a live cd right now (kanotix), I wonder if it is possible to download and burn the kubuntu live cd ??01:17
maduserits possible01:17
lsemple2while running on a live cd01:17
maduserbut you have to download the cd to a mounted media01:17
Odd-rationalelsemple2: do you have 2 cd burners?01:18
lsemple2yeah01:18
Odd-rationalelsemple2: yes it possible then...01:18
jalsany of you tried peachy dock?01:18
lsemple2can someone confirm that this is the correct download for kubuntu live cd ? http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php#latest01:19
Odd-rationalelsemple2: YES01:19
lsemple2top link (8.04 hardy heron)01:19
Odd-rationalelsemple2: yes. i would not reccomend the kde4 remix atm...01:20
rvkwhy not kde4 remix?01:20
Odd-rationalervk: lsemple2 is rather new...01:20
lsemple2ok01:21
lsemple2I was told to stick with kde3 as well01:21
lsemple2kde4 has tons of bugs01:21
lsemple2I need something that wont crash on me every day01:21
Odd-rationalethe kde4 remix is still incomplete in some areas. imo. although it is quite stable01:21
lsemple2well should I get kde4 or kde3 ??01:22
jaimekd301:22
Odd-rationalekde3 for now...01:22
jaimekde4 is very incomplete, is in process of testing01:22
jaimetry kde3 and then when a stable version goes up you can change01:23
lsemple2k good cause I already started downloading kde3 :)01:23
r2b2anybody know of a virus scanner for linux? i'll be using it to scan samba folders accesed by MS windows users01:24
r2b2linux is virtually virus free- yes but most files stored/shared in samba came from windows,01:25
r2b2chances are those files are infected01:26
lsemple2r2b2 bitdefender01:28
lsemple2www.bitdefender.com01:28
lsemple2r2b2: bitdefender is one of the best imo01:29
r2b2i c.. just looking at the site now.. i hope there's a free version01:29
r2b2thanks anyway01:29
dthackerr2b2: clamav01:42
dthacker!clamav01:42
ubottuFactoid clamav not found01:42
dthackerhmmm01:43
mr---t/msg nickserv register at2727 andrudetwentyseven@yahoo.com01:44
mr---t/msg nickserv set hidemail on01:44
mr---t/nick mr--t2 /msg nickserv group01:44
RiotingPacifistflash really sucks at rendering full screen (worse than it did in 7.10) even without compiz!, im on an ati card can i add module donotsuckatflash or something to xorg?01:44
RiotingPacifistmr---t: thats why you should always do it in the server IRC window01:45
JuJuBeeJust built a new computer with 2 HD's  Have Hardy (kde4) and Win XP Home as dual boot on same disk different partitions... I want to make the second drive for documents that can be access from both OS's.  Should I make it NTFS or EXT3?  I have the driver to access ext3 in windows.01:46
dthackerJuJuBee: I have no preference01:46
mr---twhat01:46
JuJuBeeSo reading/writing NTFS from linux is same as reading/writing ext3 from windows?01:46
JuJuBeeEqually reliable?01:47
RiotingPacifistJuJuBee: which are you going to use more? support both ways is fairly good but still 'experimental'01:47
HollowPointJuJuBee I presonally have 3 other drives than my main OS drive and I have all three set to NTFS even though I don't have a Windows dual boot anymore, lol, it's purely by force of habit01:47
JuJuBeeIf I had it my way, windoze would take a verrrryyyy long nap. ;)01:47
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RiotingPacifist[01:44] <mr---t> /msg nickserv register at2727 andrudetwentyseven@yahoo.com01:48
RiotingPacifistJuJuBee: if you intend to use linux more id go with ext if there about even id go with ntfs as the ntfs drivers can/will improve01:48
mr---tRiotingPacifist: i'm trying to register a nick01:48
haryonoirc jakarta indonesia kubuntu forum pls01:49
RiotingPacifistmr---t: you need to remove the space before /msg for it to work01:49
JuJuBeeRiotingPacifist : thanks for the input...Think I will take your suggestion.01:49
mr---tRiotingPacifist: do i do it here01:50
JuJuBeeWasn't thinking about future of the ntfs/ext support, of course linux will continue to improve whereas windows will probably continue to suck...01:50
JuJuBeeAre you using kde4 yet?01:50
RiotingPacifistmr---t:  you can do it anywhere but its normally best to do it in the tab that isnt a chanel, on konversation its called 'ubunut IRC' or something like that01:51
RiotingPacifistjust incase the space slips in01:51
RiotingPacifistnope its not really ready, 4.1 is pretty useable but i dont think ill switch till 4.201:52
JuJuBeeIs there a projected date for 4.2?01:52
JuJuBeeI did fresh install and used kde4, finding it difficult at the moment...01:53
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RiotingPacifistabout 8 months  away i think, 6 if you use betas01:53
JuJuBeeCan I   install kde3 along with 4 like having gnome and kde at the same time?01:54
_CrashMaster_My system can barely even handle kde401:54
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RiotingPacifistJuJuBee: yes just add the right menu, i forget which one it is but one menu gives access to all aps01:55
JuJuBeeDo  you mean within kde4?  Im confused...01:56
RiotingPacifist_CrashMaster_: with composting off it should be about par with 3, ofc once you start using kde3 & 4 apps together then your ram goes bye bye01:56
RiotingPacifistJuJuBee: yeah in kde4 you can add a menu that lists all the apps (including kde3 ones) so you can use them side by side01:56
JuJuBeeOh, you mean add a widget, I did, but the new menu is on the right side of the task bar and I cannot figure out how to move it.01:57
DragnslcrAny recommendations for a simple PDF editor?01:58
RiotingPacifistDragnslcr: what are you trying to do, i used pdfedit and it did most stuff once you got used to it, but it crashed like windows until i figured it out02:00
DragnslcrJust trying to fill out a form. I prefer typing over making someone try to read my horrible handwriting02:01
_CrashMaster_Make em work for iyt02:01
_CrashMaster_s/iyt/it02:01
DragnslcrPDFEdit can't open it. It's apprently encrypted02:02
DragnslcrWell, it's a rebate form, so I can't make them work too hard02:02
RiotingPacifistDragnslcr: i dont know of any alternatices you can break the encryption using kpdf02:02
_2what port is dns using ?02:02
_253 by any chance ?02:02
JuJuBeePM)_2 : yes02:03
JuJuBeemy bad,02:03
_2:)02:04
JuJuBeejust _202:04
JuJuBeeNot used to this irc client, used to kopete02:04
_2JuJuBee danke02:04
JuJuBeedenada02:05
DragnslcrRiotingPacifist- using kpdf and printing to file worked02:06
_CrashMaster_how do I restart X without restarting the entire system02:06
RiotingPacifistyeah i was thinking of just saving it but either way02:07
_2i'm not understanding why some of the time i can't connect to irc.freenode.net because of some icmp storm to port 80   and some times i join without triggering that.    something is physhe02:07
JuJuBeecntrl+alt+backspace02:07
JuJuBeebut that will log you out and close open apps02:07
_CrashMaster_Yeah, I dont want to kill it02:07
RiotingPacifist_CrashMaster_: logout then select restart x from a menu, if your too lazy to do that ctrl+alt+backspace does it the harsh way02:07
_CrashMaster_just restart it02:07
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_2_CrashMaster_ sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart02:07
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_2if it's not fishy it's phowl02:09
JuJuBeeguess he chose the harsh way...02:09
JuJuBee:)02:09
_2i asked in #freenode   they said that it was freenodes proxie scanner,  i say not likely.  something like that wouldn't only check randomly02:11
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[Relic]Hello :)02:18
_2does anyone think they might know what is "doing it" to my connection ?02:18
[Relic]Anyone know of anyway , that will actually work w/o problems, to get the nvidia proprietory drivers reinstalled?02:18
_2[Relic]02:18
PhoenixGIRelic whats going on.02:19
PhoenixGI_2 User error???? j/k :)02:20
[Relic]everytime I try the nvidia one it won't start x02:20
[Relic]locks up in trying it02:20
PhoenixGIWhich nVidia one, which nvidia card02:20
[Relic]the nvidia new the nv apparently works but no glx02:21
[Relic]just DL from nvidia and install?  I can't seem to find the restricted version in the hardware thing anymore02:21
PhoenixGIWhat nVidia Card do you have?02:21
_2PhoenixGI maybe it's that pebcak thing i keep hearing about ?02:21
PhoenixGI_2 LoL02:22
[Relic]8600gt02:22
_CrashMaster_X won't start. Fatal Server Error: Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices. This occurs after I have deleted xorg.conf*02:23
Boohbah_CrashMaster_: so what is your question? isn't it obvious that X won't work if you delete the conf?!02:24
NickPresta_CrashMaster_, don't run with framebuffer support02:24
PhoenixGI[Relic] hmmm yeah the "New" driver should work.  I used the one in Apt, not the one direct from nvidia... course they should be the same thing, as they are perpriotory02:24
_2_CrashMaster_ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow02:24
_CrashMaster_Boohbah, I suppose my question is "how can I make a new xorg.conf ?02:24
Boohbah_CrashMaster_: run 'X -configure'02:25
_2Boohbah ?02:25
Boohbah_2: ?02:25
_2'X -configure' < ???02:26
Boohbah_2: runs an interactive X configuration script02:26
Boohbahthat will spit out an xorg.conf02:26
_2really,     find a new tweek every day02:27
_CrashMaster_2: 10 points. Many thanks.02:27
_2welcome.02:27
Boohbah_2: your suggestion to use dpkg is probably best02:27
_2Boohbah i didn't even know that -configure was a switch for X  but it does spit out a config file  "in the $PWD thought."02:29
_2and on my system fails for normal users of course.02:29
PhoenixGI[Relic] did you say that the perprority drivers icon isn't showing any more?02:30
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_2i'm no the only one that can't spell propriatary !  </gasp>02:32
PhoenixGIbut yet I can spell Not :)02:33
_2+t   :)02:33
PhoenixGIheheh02:33
_2(propriatary) may be; proprietary02:33
PhoenixGIok, looking for e-mail client suggestions.  Kmail.... is ok02:34
PhoenixGI!email02:35
ubottuFactoid email not found02:35
PhoenixGI!e-mail02:35
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PhoenixGIbah02:35
* _2 never knows when to use "e" unless it's like echo "E: something went wrong!"02:35
derekShey, i have kubuntu installed, but i turned this machine into a headless box and odn't need an xserver... apt-get remove xorg should get rid of all gui packages right?>02:35
_2!mail | this is not what you want either PhoenixGI02:36
ubottuthis is not what you want either PhoenixGI: mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com02:36
_2derekS no.02:36
PhoenixGI_2 Thanks :P hehe, derek Kubuntu without the GUI?02:36
derekS_2: how would i do it thien...02:36
PhoenixGIisn't that just Ubuntu server?02:36
derekSPhoenixGI: yeah, but i wanted kubuntu when i first installed it, now i don't :)02:37
derekSi normally didn't care, but upgrading from edgy to hardy is taking forever02:37
_2derekS ummm maybe something like   sudo apt-get remove xserver*     but i'm not sure that will get everything.02:37
derekSwell, i am not afraid of getting too little, i just don't want too much...02:38
_2there are packages that run in X that don't depend on X  and libs that x depends on that don't depend on X   so....02:38
derekSi can aplways dpkg -l to see whats left...02:38
derekSso xserver* is a better way?02:38
derekSi'll try that once edgy -> feisty is done02:38
angasulegah, just installed 8.04 with KDE4 (AMD64), even the panel is buggy as heck :/02:40
derekS_2: hmm, neither of those do that much02:40
_2not afraid of "too little"   hmmm i can fix that....    as root;  for q in `dpkg -l | grep ^ii | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get remove -y $q ;apt-get install -f ;done ;apt-get install ssh ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimal        <<< and it will take some time to step through all the packages to see what can be removed and what cant02:41
erossif i update to bzip2 manually (1.05), then all of a sudden the repo pops up with v1.05 in there, will it mess up my repository or break a package if it let me install it?02:41
_2derekS that will clean out your system like a large dose of salts02:41
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_2for q in `dpkg -l | grep ^ii | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get remove -y $q ;dpkg --configure -a ;apt-get install -f ;done ;apt-get install ssh ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimal02:43
PhoenixGI_2 Wow, that command hurt my brain02:43
_2slightly safer   ^02:43
_2wont leave anything borked02:43
derekS_2: haha02:43
derekStoo  complicated02:43
_2might throw in a  -y on the last apt call for safty02:44
ad_HELLO  Everyone02:44
PhoenixGIello ad_02:44
_2derekS complicated ?    nothing really complicated about that string.   a for loop that calls three commands each time it acts     acting upon the list of installed packages parsed from dpkg and filtered with grep and cut     nothing complicated about it.02:46
ad_02:46
_2to see what it would do;    for q in `dpkg -l | grep ^ii | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do echo "apt-get remove -y $q " ;done02:47
derekS_2: i really just want to remove all the dependents of kubuntu02:47
derekSis there a way to do that?02:47
_2derekS yeah i just posted it    ^  up there.02:47
derekSwekk looking, thats not going to work either, arg02:48
_2derekS why not ?02:48
derekSdon't i need things like hal?02:48
ad_    understand?02:48
ad_谁 给我 推荐 几个 好的 linux  的 书阿 ?02:50
ad_what are u doing02:51
ad_ help me  please02:52
_CrashMaster__2: what was that dpkg-reconfig command again please?02:52
_2echo -e "removing packages, please stand by.\n\n" ;for q in `dpkg -l | grep ^ii | cut -d' ' -f3` ;do apt-get remove -y $q >/dev/null 2>&1 ;echo -e "=\c" ;dpkg --configure -a >/dev/null 2>&1 ;apt-get install -f >/dev/null 2>&1 ;done ;echo -e "\n done. \nnow installing base packages, please stand by..." ;apt-get install -y ssh ubuntu-base ubuntu-minimal02:53
_2_CrashMaster_ that's not for you.02:53
_2_CrashMaster_ sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:53
_2all neetly scripted.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=dbbe0b0d02:55
PhoenixGI_2 yeah don't don't think Crash would have been happy to run that script02:56
PhoenixGIThe long one that is02:56
_CrashMaster_Yeah, Im looking at it now.02:56
_CrashMaster_I would have been more than mildly irritated.02:56
_CrashMaster_Even more so that I ran it, after typing it in.02:57
derekS_2: apt-get remove kdelibs and kdebase02:57
derekSand the -data's02:57
_2derekS doesn't get xorg or it's libs/deps   play with it all you want.   you'll finally get there.02:58
_2you can use deb-orphan    it helps.02:59
derekS_2: thats the plan02:59
derekSyeah02:59
_2yeah02:59
derekSif only i didn't agree to install ooo02:59
derekSarg02:59
derekSslow download02:59
_2!info deborphan02:59
ubottudeborphan (source: deborphan): Find orphaned libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.7.23 (hardy), package size 69 kB, installed size 420 kB02:59
derekS_2: very familiar with02:59
_2only way i have found is to do that clean up thingy   but you might be satisfied with a few stray packages lying around.     i was only building on your statement of "not afraid of getting too little"  :)03:02
derekS_2: yeah, my biggest concern is that i want the upgrades to go quick03:03
_2and your question about hal was either in ignorance or not worth answering.    it may remove hal but it will put it back, and no you dont need it on a headless box.03:03
derekSso no kde, no xorg, etc03:03
derekShmm, what is hal then?03:03
derekSi thought it was a hardware layer03:04
_2hardware abstraction layer03:04
derekSyea03:04
derekSso why isn't it needed?03:04
derekSis it only for gui's?03:04
_2basicly yes.03:04
derekSahh03:04
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derekSi didn't realize :)03:04
_2it makes automount avalable to kde03:04
_2but like i said the last command of that string will put hal back if it was removed.03:05
derekSwell, i think i am going to start by getting clear of kde, then go through dpkg -l to see what else can be removed03:05
_2the -y switch on the apt-get remove will prevent removing of essential packages.03:06
derekS_2: didn't know that03:06
derekSthats helpful03:06
georgewp!katapult03:06
ubottukatapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.03:06
* _2 reposts his script for derekS http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d19634cc3 just in case you need to revisit it03:06
derekS_2: thanks :)03:07
* PhoenixGI is bored... wonder if I can install kde4.1 without hoseing 4.003:07
_2PhoenixGI you could always test my scritp for bugs   :)))03:08
PhoenixGI_2 Not that bored03:08
_2PhoenixGI heh03:08
PhoenixGI_2 still need to go over backup procedures... hehe probably should do that before trying to install 4.1 for that matter03:09
_2absoposolutely03:09
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benjamin_esnecesito ayuda para instalar03:09
benjamin_esayuda porfavor03:10
_2!es03:10
ubottuAquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.03:10
benjamin_esperdon03:10
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georgewpis there any reason I cant install gnome and use both KDE4 and Gnome?03:13
angasuleubottu: it should be "por favor entre a los canales", "en los canales" is wrong there (I hope the bot grabs this message :) )03:13
ubottuangasule: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:13
_2georgewp nope03:13
georgewpwhy is that?03:13
mjponce!en03:14
ubottuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat03:14
_2georgewp just because there isn't03:14
georgewpI dont mean at the same time of course, why would I not be able to choose which desktop environment I wanted to use today.03:14
_2angasule try; ubottu no es is "your text here"  and put the full message there please.03:15
_2georgewp you wouldn'td03:15
mjponce!polite03:15
ubottuFactoid polite not found03:15
Dragnslcrgeorgewp- what makes you think you can't?03:15
_2georgewp maybe it's a case of too many negatives ?03:16
mjponce!please03:16
ubottuAvoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !patience03:16
georgewpWhen I tried sudo apt-get gnome it returned that it could not install the packages, i am curious if its due to the fact that I have kde4.1 installed currently03:16
mjponce!oatience03:16
ubottuFactoid oatience not found03:16
mjponce!patience03:16
ubottuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:16
Dragnslcrgeorgewp- install ubuntu-desktop03:17
_2<georgewp> is there any reason I cant... <<< <_2> georgewp nope <georgewp> why is that? <_2> georgewp just because there isn't      <<< too many negatives...03:17
mneptokgeorgewp: GNOME and KDE can live happily on the same machine, and you can choose to run either03:17
PhoenixGI_2 Ouch, dang english language03:18
georgewpbut only using Ubuntu, not Kubuntu03:18
_2mneptok yes i already told him that.  but he misunderstood that i answered his question, rather than reading his mind...03:18
angasuleubottu no es is it should be "por favor entre a los canales", "en los canales" is wrong there (I hope the bot grabs this message :) )03:18
joshanyone know anything about NFS???03:18
PhoenixGI_2 hehe Sounds like something the Dr. would say03:18
angasule_2: done talking with ubottu, thanks :)03:18
_2angasule welcome.03:19
joshim having prob with NFS03:19
mneptok_2: the fact he didn;t understand you was why i answered him03:19
mneptokangasule: it's still comprehensible.03:20
georgewpyes and thank you mneptok03:20
* _2 stops having fun at the expense of the rookies ....03:21
mneptokgeorgewp: just install Ubuntu, then "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"03:21
angasulemneptok: yes, but it's imperfect :)03:21
mneptok_2: rookies?03:21
jhutchins_2: Careful, you'll wake up the old guys.03:21
* mneptok is now awake03:21
_2jhutchins  heh  yeah.03:21
georgewpwhat is the easiest hasle free way to install ubuntu on this machine?03:21
mneptok_2: you're IRCing as root with Bx. who's the "rookie?" ;)03:22
jhutchinsgeorgewp: I would presume boot to an ubuntu live cd and use the installer.03:22
mneptokgeorgewp: it already has Kubuntu?03:22
_2georgewp if it works as it is supposed to.  the live CD installer03:22
_2mneptok the guy that beleaves the user mask is true :)03:22
* _2 hides now03:23
mneptok_2: "believes"03:23
_2that too03:23
PhoenixGI_2 yes, you and I need spell check for IRC03:23
jhutchinsgeorgewp: Sorry, sorting through the scrollback, do you already have kubuntu and want gnome too?03:23
jhutchins... if we may get back to topical help...03:24
_2PhoenixGI i really do actually.    i can't even spell my own name half the time.03:24
angasule_2: busted :D03:24
_2angasule ?03:24
angasule_2: n=root, if it were true :)03:25
* angasule loves konversation's spellcheck03:25
_2if it were.   but it's not.03:25
_2angasule my bx warper http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d1929353d03:26
joshOk im getting really frustrated here. I havee a NFS share running on 192.168.0.100:/Storage. I mount it on this client pc with: mount 192.168.1.100:/Storage /home/josh/Server. Both the UID on the client for user 'josh' is 1003 and server is 1003. Yet I am still getting permission denied when i "touch /home/josh/Server/test" What am i doing wrong?03:28
angasule_2: you trickster :)03:28
jalsany fixes for choppy flash in firefox?03:29
_2mneptok or jhutchins anybody that knows squat about nfs just jump right in and help josh03:30
jhutchinsjosh: nfs is funny about that, you've got to hold your toungue just right. Check the mermissions on .../storage, check the permissions in the share definition.03:31
jhutchinsjals: More cpu, more ram.03:31
jhutchinsjals: Possibly more gpu, but mostly it's cpu/io.03:32
jhutchinsjals: Also look at what else might be grabbing clock cycles.03:32
jalsi have enough of those, it's something making it choppy03:32
jalsworks fine in windows03:32
_2jals look for a process eating cpu time      use top maybe.03:33
jalswill do03:34
* mneptok suggests htop03:34
jalsi'll restart firefox03:34
* _2 starts writing a new frontend for top i think i'll call it "s" "top" :)03:39
_2somebody break something !03:45
georgewpI tried to use an old Ubuntu live cd, the xserver crashes on boot, is there a command to get the xserver to autodetect my display, video, etc to work?03:45
_2georgewp ummm you have enough ram ?03:45
georgewp4 gigs03:46
_2georgewp you can sujest it use the vesa vidio driver03:46
georgewpI dont understand? im a newb :/03:46
_2or reconfigure xorg from a shell within the live CD   and select the vesa driver there03:46
georgewpwhats the command to reconfigure xorg03:47
PhoenixGIX -configure?03:47
_2georgewp sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow03:47
georgewpk, thank I will try that03:48
_2good luck rookie03:49
joshhow do i m ake a folder world read/world write03:56
DragnslcrFrom a shell?03:57
_2chmod 777 path/to/blah03:57
_2you'll have to sudo it03:57
_2those octets are the binary composition of <read><write><execute>   and yes dirs need to be executable.   so a 111 for the owner and a 111 for the group and a 111 for the world   or in short  77703:59
_2imo learning the numerics is much easier than memorizing all the -/+ switches in chmod04:00
haryonohow to clean up or disk defrag in kubuntu system?04:00
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_2also of note the fourth octet is <suid><sgid><sticky>04:01
_2haryono you have an fs that needs defragged ?04:01
_2haryono what did you do to get a linux fs in that condition ?04:02
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haryonofs? whatis that?04:05
_2the highest non-contiguious block count i have ever managed to make is like 5%  and that took a lot of copy move delete overwrite ...  to ever get one in that bad of a condition.04:05
_2fs = file system04:05
haryonocshould i defrag or clean up the disk like in Windows microsoft?04:05
_2probably not.   no.04:05
haryonook i just want to know04:05
angasuleI don't think you have to defrag windows' filesystems these days, either04:06
PhoenixGIyeah you do04:06
haryonowhen i type or kli to a keyboard button a flash background color apear in my scren how to fix it?it scause delayed in my work04:07
PhoenixGIWinders still could use a good defrag everynow and then04:07
Jucato!defrag | haryono04:07
ubottuharyono: defrag is <Reply> The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this.04:07
_2haryono if you want to know what condition it's in you can boot to single user mode and run two commands.   mount / -o remount,ro ;e2fsck /dev/root    <<< where root is the actual root device or a symlink that points to it.04:07
haryonogive me irc kubuntu jakarta indonesia room pls04:08
_2!id04:08
ubottujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia04:08
haryonoso defrag and clean up hard dikin kubuntu is not necesar?04:09
_2no04:09
_2very seldom would anyone need too04:09
haryonook yhanks folks04:09
_2welcome.04:09
haryonoa color background flash when i type or klik , its delayed my work .how to fix it04:10
_2Jucato you ever seen color flash when you type or click ?04:11
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_2haryono i have never see that happen, so i can't help with that.04:12
haryonowas it because color setting ?04:13
_2i don't know.   i've never seen that.   sorry.   maybe someone else can help you.04:13
_2like Jucato04:14
Jucato_2: sorry. haven't seen that04:14
_2k04:14
haryonook thanks04:15
_2!patience | haryono maybe ask again in an hour or so...04:17
ubottuharyono maybe ask again in an hour or so...: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines04:17
_2sometimes people come in that can answer you.  some times, you don't get an answer,   we do what we can.    and often wish we could do more.04:18
[Relic]not having any luck getting any nvidia restricted driver installed :(04:19
_2):04:20
[Relic]anything short of installing a different distribution that will let me have my coretemps and nvidia restricted drivers?04:20
[Relic]even tried downloading directly from nvidia site04:21
_2lmsensors package ?    the restricted manager from the gnome/ubuntu install ?      tried those ideas ?04:21
PhoenixGI[Relic] wish I could help more... When I enabled the Nvida drivers, it all just worked for me.04:21
haryonocant run audio/video player and kubuntu webcam pls04:22
[Relic]PhoenixGI, built a new kernel for the coretemps, but haven't succeeded in getting nvidia drivers back  :(04:23
DaSkreechharyono: Which player?04:23
_2[Relic] ah you haven't compiled the nvidia modules for the new kernel yet ?04:23
haryonoamarok /kafeine04:24
[Relic]thought that was done by the nvidia download04:24
_2[Relic] i think <keyword) that you have to compile the module if you have a non-stock kernel.04:24
DaSkreechharyono: They won't open?04:24
[Relic]it said it had to do that and did it04:25
haryonocant open04:25
[Relic]supposedly04:25
_2[Relic] hmmm (blind leading the blind)    find /lib/modules/ -iname *nvidia*04:25
_2[Relic] see if they show up in the running kernel version     `uname -r`   ^04:26
[Relic]yes they do04:27
haryonowhen i insert cd in cdrom driver its only appear dolphin.?04:28
_2[Relic] ummm sudo modprobe nvidia<what ever was in the find list> ?04:28
_2do they error out ?04:28
_2haryono that's kde4  there is dedicated channel for that also    /join #kubuntu-kde404:30
_2!kde404:30
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde404:30
[Relic]one loaded04:30
haryonowhen i try to play cd w amarok .in the screen appear dolphin cant play cd04:30
_2[Relic] which one ?04:31
haryonomine is kde 3.how to get kde4?04:31
dwidmann_laptopharyono: dolphin or d3lphin?04:31
dwidmann_laptopharyono: sudo apt-get install dolphin-kde404:31
_2dolphin is a kde4 app04:31
DaSkreechharyono: are you in KDE3?04:31
dwidmann_laptopI can't guarentee that will work any better for you, however, haryono04:31
_2d3lphin would be it's kde3 backport04:31
DaSkreech_2: why are you assuming that cause he has Dolphin he has KDE4?04:31
dwidmann_laptopThe action menus have been lacking thus far in dolphin.04:32
_2DaSkreech the name ?04:32
dwidmann_laptopDaSkreech: maybe b ecause the person said dolphin instead of d3lphin?04:32
haryonodolphin only read maybe04:32
[Relic]_2, nvidiafb04:32
haryonoim in kde304:32
_2[Relic] ummm that's not good.   that's the one you don't want.04:33
haryonook dwidman i try04:33
DaSkreech_2: It says Dolphin on the App04:33
_2DaSkreech so help him.04:33
DaSkreechharyono: type alt+space and type amarok04:33
[Relic]_2, xorg.conf is blank so I am not sure what is being loaded to allow things to run04:33
_2[Relic] yeah i'm not familear with what they are using in place of xorg.conf in hardy.+04:34
haryonowhen o klik amarok appear amarok playlist in the box04:35
[Relic]older versions (backups) are full of stuff04:35
_2[Relic] used to be as simple as; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -plow    # but they tell me that that command doesn't help in the newest release04:35
DaSkreechharyono: Which box?04:35
haryonoamarok is open up but the playlist is not the one in my unserted cd04:35
joshIm trying to change my userid using: sudo usermod -u 1001 <my username> .. when I restart X and login it gives me a lot of problems .. what do i do?04:35
haryonothe box when i klik amarok from multi media04:36
DaSkreechjosh: your files are still owned by 100004:36
haryonomulti media in KDE Menu04:36
_2josh in a console "own your home"    sudo chown -R $USER $HOME04:36
joshok04:37
DaSkreechharyono: Ah umm04:37
joshIdid that and still getting problem04:37
DaSkreechharyono: On amarok there is a menu on the top left that says Amarok04:37
joshLots of errors when gnome starts04:37
DaSkreechharyono: Under there should be a play Audio CD04:38
_2josh be more specific   what errors ?04:38
joshPermission pronblmes04:38
joshAn error occured while loading or saving configuration information for evolution-alarm-notify .. etc04:38
joshtons and tons of stuff04:38
joshand yes i did change my perms04:38
haryonodwidman terminal cant read dolphin -kde4 as u said04:38
_2josh  you did run the chown command as the user in question with sudo prepended,   no ?04:39
joshyes04:39
_2josh hmmm    ls -ld ~/.*     > pastebin the output04:40
haryonoDaskreech when i enter to KDE Menu and Multi media amarok the first box apear is Amarok Playlist04:41
joshithink i ts good04:41
_2all owned by you ?04:41
DaSkreechharyono: does Amarok open?04:41
_2josh: all owned by you ?04:42
_2josh: err all but ..  which would be owned by root04:43
danahello04:44
DaSkreech!hi04:44
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:44
danaanyone there?04:44
smAsharyono: amakok opens and it starts in playlist ??? than change to whatever you want ... context, collection, file ...04:44
_2dana nope.04:44
danathanka haha04:44
danathanks*04:44
danai know this really isn't the place, but is there a place to find like RP Taverns and schtuff?04:45
DaSkreechWhat's an RP tavern?04:45
PhoenixGIRolePlay Tavern?04:45
* Guest599 fax me a beer04:46
* DaSkreech tries to imagine how he would roleplay a Tavern04:46
* _2 thinks all the world is RPG04:46
haryonoAmarok box open and the title on the top is Amarok Playlist04:46
DaSkreechHary awww what now?04:46
* [Relic] thinks _2 is silly, you are all just a figment of my demented imagination :)04:46
smAsharyono: amakok opens and it starts in playlist ??? than change to whatever you want ... context, collection, file ...04:46
danalmao04:47
danai just realized what i said04:47
DaSkreechOh good04:47
DaSkreechcause I still have no clue04:47
* PhoenixGI bangs head on desk.... 04:50
_2headdesk!04:50
PhoenixGIWith everything else so easy here, why is using a DVD drive so diffacult04:50
DaSkreechharyono: on Amarok Playlist there is an Amarok menu04:50
DaSkreechit should say Play Audio CD04:50
DaSkreechharyono: Do you have a preffered language?04:50
DaSkreechPhoenixGI: you press the one button on the front and it comes out04:51
haryonoindonesia04:51
DaSkreechyou apply a disc or take one out and press it again04:51
smAshati hati :)04:51
DaSkreech!indonesia04:51
ubottujoin ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia04:51
PhoenixGIDaSkreech hehe yeah that part works, just writing it is were I seem to be having issues.04:52
DaSkreechPhoenixGI: k3b failed?04:52
haryonobut in ubuntu no one know kubuntu04:52
PhoenixGIDaSkreech: errr k3b?04:53
DaSkreechPhoenixGI: You are burning a DVd?04:53
DaSkreech:-(04:53
PhoenixGIWanted to use it for backup.... so yeah burning to dvd04:53
PhoenixGIif k3b is the answer, it's only a Apt-get away04:54
PhoenixGIerr a sudo apt-get away... dang sudo command04:55
_2k3b is pretty decent    i like xcdroast for cd's still04:56
DaSkreechharyono: http://img383.imageshack.us/img383/9320/amaroksnapshot1vr0.png04:56
DaSkreechharyono: Thats where the play CD is04:56
DaSkreechPhoenixGI: are you in Kubuntu?04:57
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PhoenixGIDaSkreech yes I'm using Kubuntu04:57
DaSkreechPhoenixGI: alt+space -> k3b04:58
DaSkreechPhoenixGI: in fact alt+space -> k ;-)04:58
PhoenixGIDoes nothing for me... kde4.004:58
DaSkreechPhoenixGI: Oooo04:59
DaSkreech4.0 or 4.1 ?04:59
PhoenixGI4.004:59
DaSkreechoh :-(04:59
PhoenixGI4.1 had the word beta attached to it.... 4.0 should have also04:59
DaSkreechIt had Eat children attached to it05:00
PhoenixGISee, that would have made me install it for sure if I saw that05:00
DaSkreechwell .. yeah it was said and you did install it so I guess that worked out well05:01
PhoenixGIhehe true05:01
_2so the alt+space (katapult) is just some eyecandy cpu eating alt+f2 thingy ?     this is the first time i have seen katapult     just got curious about it i guess.05:01
PhoenixGISince I've been fighting noobness and 4.0 at the same time been tempted to just make the jump to the 4.1 beta05:02
angasule_2: with katapult you don't have to type in full, so you don't depend on the recent commands of alt+f205:02
DaSkreech_2: and it takes paths and things05:02
_2angasule katapult is no shorter for k3b than alt+f2 is05:03
DaSkreechand it's a nice visual calculator05:03
DaSkreech_2: It is for a file 6 dirs deep in your home directory05:03
angasule_2: uh? k3 doesn't show 'k3b'? anyway, for konquest, it makes a difference :P05:03
PhoenixGIhehe thats been added to the K menu in 405:03
_2DaSkreech heh and how would it find that ?05:03
DaSkreechPhoenixGI: Wait till the next beta05:03
PhoenixGIDaSkreech Will do05:04
DaSkreech_2: for me it's Doc/W/MI/t/p05:04
DaSkreechinstead of Documents/Work/MIB/trunk/pythoninit05:05
DaSkreechA good deal faster05:05
PhoenixGIMen In Black???? Agent Dee or Agent Ess05:05
_2DaSkreech heh i have symlinks for things like that,    and use the cli anyway.05:05
DaSkreech_2: I can pull up a random Wallpaper I'm talking about to someone like that05:06
DaSkreechor I can pull up an album and have Amarok play it05:06
_2i'll look at it again,     and then turn it off  ;)05:06
epimethumm... what happens if you have both backports and the kde4 repository installed and you install kubuntu-kde4-desktop?05:07
DaSkreech_2: What would make it useful?05:07
epimethdoes 4.0.5 take precedence or does 4.1beta?05:07
kiltrochile??05:07
DaSkreechepimeth: newest one wins05:08
DaSkreech!chile05:08
ubottuFactoid chile not found05:08
DaSkreechWhat lang does chile speak?05:08
DaSkreechportugese?05:08
kiltrospanish05:08
DaSkreech!es05:08
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.05:08
_2DaSkreech nothing that i can think of.05:08
_2DaSkreech i'm not a gui guy05:08
DaSkreech_2: Why aren't you?05:08
_2why would i be ?05:09
Ashexhas anyone else had issues with Kopete?05:09
DaSkreech_2: This is kinda trying to bridge that gap :)05:09
_2question is dubble edged05:09
Ashexparticularly with msn not connecting, and aim not setting status messages?05:09
PhoenixGIOk, have to ask this noob question... I just accidently closed terminal while in the middle of apt-get install... what happens to my install05:09
_2DaSkreech i thought konsole was supposed to do that05:09
DaSkreechAshex: Near as I know MSN changed some server stuff last week (I think) so it's a bit broken right now05:09
AshexDaSkreech, It's been broken for me since release05:09
DaSkreech_2: ahmm not quite. Konsole isn't database driven05:10
DaSkreechAshex: #kopete They would have far more information than we would05:10
AshexDaSkreech, kopete crashes as soon as I try to connect with an msn account05:10
_2oh that's why i don't like katapult.    if you hadn't mentioned database i would never have known.05:10
AshexDaSkreech, alright. I suspect it's the ubuntu build05:10
DaSkreech?>_<05:10
AshexI'm about ready to uninstall kopete and just compile the latest version05:10
_2same reason i don't like slocate05:11
DaSkreechlaggy?05:11
epimethso 4.0.5 then?05:11
DaSkreech4.1 > 4.0.505:12
DaSkreechFor most numbering systems05:12
epimethPhoenixGI: you clicked on the x?05:12
epimethDaSkreech: yea, but you said "newest"05:12
PhoenixGIepimeth: Yes05:13
epimethand 4.0.5 was the most recently released one05:13
DaSkreechepimeth: Ah right :)05:13
_2shouldn't katapult do something if you type in bash ?05:13
DaSkreechSorry I meant highest number wins05:13
DaSkreech_2: ahmm ?05:13
PhoenixGI_2 Launch a club at your forhead maybe?05:13
DaSkreechLike drop a floating bash prompt?05:13
epimeth_2: no, it runs applications from the application db05:13
_2like open a konsole or something DaSkreech05:14
epimeth_2: so what you want is "konsole"05:14
_2epimeth and this database is where?  os was generated how ?05:14
stdin_2: no, remember the commands are ran via kdeinit, which just launches a new process, bash to be precise ;)05:14
epimeth_2: the command "updatedb"05:15
DaSkreech_2: It's the database of what's in the kmenu by default05:15
DaSkreechepimeth: No it isn't :-P05:15
epimethreally?05:15
epimethI could have sworn it did....05:15
DaSkreech_2: alt+space -> ^c -> c05:15
_2epimeth that's the slocate database updater05:15
_2bash is in my kmenu05:16
kgx!mic05:16
ubottuFactoid mic not found05:16
_2so is dash05:16
kgx!microphone05:16
ubottuFactoid microphone not found05:16
epimethhrm... thats not the "Execution Catalog" ?05:16
_2kgx i'm with you.  it should be there.05:16
ubuntu_I am in the middle of installing kubuntu05:17
ubuntu_and I thought I would ask here before continuing05:17
ubuntu_when I click advanced during the installation process to bring up the grub boot loader options05:17
_2and when i click bash in the kmenu it opens a konsole with bash in it.  and does dash the same way.05:17
ubuntu_should I change anything05:17
kgx_2: im getting annoying of my mic not working on laptop. can't use skype because ofi t :(05:17
ubuntu_or leave it at (hd0)05:18
ubuntu_even though the install is going to be sdc105:18
epimethPhoenixGI: you can check if you killed the process by running $ps -fuxa | grep apt05:18
epimethPhoenixGI: you can check if you killed the process by running $ps -fuxa | grep 'apt'05:18
_2kgx last time i messed with a builtin mic   it was just muted and the record was not set to the mic but to the main.    you can check/change both in the alsamixer05:18
DaSkreech_2: I thought dash was none interactive05:18
_2DaSkreech heh.  not hardly.05:19
epimethPhoenixGI: if nothing appears then the process is dead05:19
_2DaSkreech it's a posix compliant shell05:19
PhoenixGIepimeth well I brought up System Monitor, Apt-get was on the proceess table, it's gone now.. soooo I guess it's done05:20
_2pidof apt-get05:20
epimethPhoenixGI: either its done or its dead.  the only way to find out is by running update and / or upgrade05:21
* _2 likes pidof or pgrep which some sware by05:21
DaSkreechharyono: how are you doing?05:21
* epimeth has never heard of pidof but will now start using it05:21
_2epimeth it's been a main stay of linux for ever.  in /bin/   almost all *nix's have it.05:22
PhoenixGIbrb05:23
epimeth_2: well I never heard of it :-)  I always used ps fuxa | grep05:23
_2epimeth heh  ok.05:23
_2pidof X05:24
_2       pgrep,  pkill  -  look  up  or signal processes based on name and other05:24
_2       attributes05:24
epimethpidof X | kill -9 :-p05:24
_2pgrep -k X05:25
_2sorry -k is wrong os   -s  is what linux uses05:25
_2epimeth and for something like that   i like     killall X05:27
_2kills named process and it's children.05:28
* _2 favours genicide in such cases05:28
epimethtoo many ways to do the same thing05:29
_2you can't pipe into kill tho05:30
_2" pidof X | kill -9 "  == error                 "kill -9 `pidof X`"  == xorg go down like curd in churn05:30
epimethyou can't pipe into kill?05:31
epimethhrm05:31
epimethdidn't know that...05:31
epimethmakes sence, tho05:31
ArtimusWhat's the maximum amount of command line arguments to ls?  I just ran05:31
Artimusls on a quarantine directory, it said too many command line arguments.05:31
_2killall /usr/bin/X    ==    gui go down like curd in churn too05:31
DaSkreechkill doesn't take stdin05:32
_2nope05:32
epimethworks for me :-)05:32
DaSkreech_2: What do you use to listen to music?05:32
epimethArtimus: ls should work on any directory05:32
_2DaSkreech ?    app you mean ?05:32
epimethArtimus: what was the exact command you ran?05:32
DaSkreechSi05:32
_2DaSkreech sox05:32
DaSkreechnever heard of it :)05:32
epimeth_2: I use amarok05:33
_2!info sox05:33
ubottusox (source: sox): Swiss army knife of sound processing. In component universe, is optional. Version 14.0.0-5 (hardy), package size 59 kB, installed size 176 kB05:33
Artimusepimeth: "ls *"05:33
DaSkreechI don't get the x05:33
DaSkreechbut *shrugs*05:33
Artimusepimeth: (I ran this on a Windows box...  There are a ton of files in this folder...  1.9GB of quarantined files.  I'm going to have a bad night)05:33
PhoenixGIArtimus Ouch05:33
ubuntu_Hi05:34
_2Artimus don't use  *  for ls use -R for recursive listings.05:34
ubuntu_I am trying to install kubuntu of the latest live cd05:34
ubuntu_need help here05:34
Artimus_2: I used find, but thanks05:34
epimethArtimus: what do you need to know about it?05:34
Artimusepimeth: I'm curious how many arguments ls can take05:34
epimeth!ask | ubuntu_05:34
ubottuubuntu_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)05:34
ArtimusI ran "ls *" meaning it was using every file in the list as an argument.05:35
_2Artimus that works too   but many apps  like mv rm ls ln and so forth will error if there are too many files list by *05:35
epimethArtimus: however many it takes...05:35
Artimusepimeth: No, how many before it spits out an error05:35
ArtimusLike it did05:35
DaSkreechArtimus: Apps don't have a limit for most cases05:35
ArtimusThen why did ls die?05:35
DaSkreechArtimus: The shell does though05:35
Artimusoh...05:35
epimethls [OPTION]... [FILE]...05:35
ArtimusDaSkreech: Oh, duh, it's bash...05:35
_2Artimus i think it's a bit count and not an actual arg count   i.e. number of chars05:36
ubuntu_epimeth: when I click the install button, I follow the instructions, get to a stage to select the hd to install to, I select sdc1 (my primary 80gb), then I am not sure if I need to change the grub boot device because by default it is set to (hd0)05:36
ubuntu_but I left it at hd0, and when I reboot I get : File not found05:36
_2DaSkreech backwards.  the shell can pass far more arguments than ls or rm can handle05:36
ubuntu_do I need to change (hd0) to (hd2) ???05:36
DaSkreech_2: really what's the limits on each?05:37
ubuntu_because the drive I am installing to is sdc105:37
Artimus_2: Thanks05:37
epimethubuntu_ your primary is sdc?  that seems odd to me05:37
ubuntu_well sda is 500gb storage, sdb is 200gb storage05:37
DaSkreechubuntu_: which one is bootable?05:37
ArtimusIt's more of a curiosity anyway.  find . -iname "*.dat" -exec rm {} \; worked very well for me to clear out the ton of files...05:37
ubuntu_sdc05:37
DaSkreechThen you need to install grub to hd205:38
_2DaSkreech i'm not sure of the char count   but i have had to use things like     find /path -exec rm '{}' \;    for things that   rm /path/*  wouldn't work on,   and many such things.05:38
DaSkreech_2: k I'll ask greycat05:38
Artimus_2: We think alike05:38
ubuntu_ok I will just reinstall again, didnt take too long05:38
_2DaSkreech and for bash the cli arg limit is 64k05:38
DaSkreechThat I know05:38
epimethyea, I'm with _2 on the find thing05:38
ubuntu_DaSkreech: Unless I can quickly repair this instead of reinstalling05:38
DaSkreech!grub05:39
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:39
ubuntu_I will just reinstall I never have good luck half the instructions dont work half the time05:39
ubuntu_thanks05:39
DaSkreechHa ha :)05:39
DaSkreechok05:39
epimethArtimus: also, have you tried redirecting to less?05:39
DaSkreechYeah probably faster05:39
_2DaSkreech also one can use a for loop and leave find out of it.     for q in /path/* ;do rm $q ;done      "all sh all the time"05:39
Artimusepimeth: That might be fun.  Haven't tried it yet.05:40
_2:)05:40
DaSkreechYeah that's what I normally do05:40
_2the for loop proves that the shell can handle the full list05:40
_2for being a shell builtin05:41
epimeth_2, Artimus: and instead of "rm" I would try "echo" first :-p05:41
_2yep05:41
epimethI haven't done any bash programming in a loooong time....05:42
_2heh or rm -i05:42
_2but that's slow when the list is longer than rm can handle.05:42
Artimusepimeth: I ran the command with just find first.  It outputs the text too.05:42
epimethArtimus: I wasn talking about _2's loop suggestion05:43
epimethArtimus: but, yea, find defaults to --print05:43
Artimusepimeth: Oh, nevermind then05:43
_2one dash   -print   :)05:43
ArtimusSay, has anyone tried Terabyte Image For Linux?  I'm using their Windows product (I get a free copy of the Linux version with it).  Kind of nifty.  Curious if anyone else has used it.05:44
_2!find terabyte05:44
ubottuFile terabyte found in asterisk-prompt-es, asterisk-prompt-se, asterisk-sounds-extra05:44
Artimus_2: Closed source05:44
frybyehi have installed KRec and it dosent work - any tips?05:44
_2i see05:44
_2!doesntwork05:45
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.05:45
Artimus_2: It's kind of like Ghost or Acronis...  I feel bad about using a closed source program, but it works.05:45
frybyedosent seem to see the microphone - and records in a strange format anyhow apparently..05:45
_2Artimus ok.  i've never used any of those either  ;/05:46
cliffordHi - does anyone know how to get the sound working after using rhythmbox? (I was told not to use it but forgot!!) Please help05:47
Artimus_2: In Linux partitions, it's basically DD with a frontend & validation.  I use it to image Windows partitions before I work on them05:47
_2frybye does it record the vidio portion correctly ?05:48
* Guest599 thank you and good night05:50
frybyehave no video input on this pc - just trying to rec from microphone..05:50
frybyei says "very much data"..? and produces a file in a format I have never seen before..#05:51
frybyeI had this installed in a prev. installaton and it rec. in ogg - but this time not apparently..?05:52
_2Artimus then sox or anything that wasn't made for vidio recording would be a better choice       even audacity  would  be usable for you05:52
_2sorry not Artimus05:52
frybyehave I got the wrong appl...?05:52
_2frybye  ^05:52
richard_if i have 5 lamps of 5v, how many v i need to have a good performance¿?05:52
frybyeah ha...05:52
frybyewhich of them would you suggest...?05:52
PhoenixGIInstalling K3B did let me write to the DVD, but Keep Still doesn't want to use it for backups05:53
richard_25v?05:53
frybyesomething simple to use - need for audio-mails...05:53
_2richard_ if you parallel them  5v   if you seriese them 25v05:53
richard_thanks _205:53
_2richard_ but running lamps in seriese is not normally desirable05:53
richard_i have in seriese05:55
_2lamp1===lamp2===lamp3===lamp4===lamp5===source    better than  source+---l1---l2---l3---l4---l5---source-05:55
richard_if i have 5v,5v,2v,2v,2v, how many voltage i need05:55
_2reason being the highest resistance lamp will be the brightest and the others will starve.05:56
richard_16v?05:56
_2nope  that will only blow bulbs05:56
richard_and then....05:58
_2and then none work because one is open circute05:58
_2use parallel circutry for lamps     or keep your lamps very closely matched, and even then they wont all preform correctly05:59
lsemple_prior to installing kubuntu I backed up my old /home folders, to restore them should I just copy them back ?05:59
richard_but teorically...06:00
_2a teory that is known to be flawed is not one to discuss06:00
_2lsemple_ yes   and then own your home06:01
richard_ok thanks _2 thanks06:01
richard_i no disturbe more06:02
_2richard_ welcome.06:02
lsemple_ok, on the old system I had two users (/home/lsemple and /home/csemple), if I where to just copy them back would that automatically create the second user for me (csemple) ?06:02
lsemple_or do I need to use a program like kuser to add a new user, then copy the folder back ?06:03
richard_;)06:03
_2lsemple_ no.   sudo adduser     (and to own your home login as the user in question and)  sudo chown -R $USER $HOME06:04
_2lsemple_  sorry,  i type slow.  yes kuser will work   no it wont add for you.06:04
_2shoot.  you are cutting into my lunch break.   i'll be back in 2.5 hours when lunch is over  ;)06:06
richard_yeah i think so, i must take the lamps of menor voltage as the high voltage and add06:06
richard_ yeah i think so, i must take the lamps of menor voltage as the high voltage and add06:08
lsemple__2: for some reason the permissions for the second user (csemple) got changed to lsemple in the backup process, does the command chown -R $csemple $csemple change the permissions ?06:09
PhoenixGIIsemple_ I think _2 went to grab some lunch06:09
lsemple_ok06:10
lsemple_is there any important files in a newly created /home/csemple folder that I need to keep before I replace the entire folder ??06:11
PhoenixGIIsemple_ wish I could help, but I'm still very new to linux06:12
lsemple_thats ok06:12
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coteyrI am using the kde4.1 beta. I am tying to configure kate's external tools plugin. but I can't see to figure it out. Where is the configuration panel, or if theres no tool yet, what files do I edit?06:15
Ashexhow does one change the security settings in Kubuntu?06:24
Ashexwould be nice if I didn't have to enter my password to mount a flash drive06:24
frybyecoteyr - there is a separate # for kde4 - see greeting message ^06:26
coteyrthanks06:27
Ashex!lavc06:29
ubottuFactoid lavc not found06:29
HollowPointlively in here tonight!06:34
Brian88hi howto enable animations on k-menu and/or windows in kubuntu?06:39
lsemple_hi, I installed kubuntu, and whenever I install any programs (firefox, qps ect), and try to run them, I get error: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyError: cannot open display: :0.0  ?06:39
HollowPointBrian88 compiz-fusion06:40
lsemple_Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyqps: cannot connect to X server :0.006:41
enosHelp. I can't seem to understand what's *causing* ubuntu to appear so bright. I looked at xorg.conf and it doesnt look like its neither recognizing my video card's drivers (as its using vesa) nor my monitor (as its using a generic one). Help.06:41
Brian88HollowPoint: thanks06:42
HollowPointenos it's quite normal for xorg.conf to use a generic monitor, what graphics card do you have?06:43
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enosHollowPoint: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/PM/GMS/910GML Express06:47
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HollowPointhmmmmmmmm, hold on06:48
anom01yhow can I change the permissions for an entire folder and all the subfulders, including hidden files and folders within ??06:49
enosHollowPoint: I'm using an external LCD. my monitor on the laptop works fine.06:49
enosbut its my external LCD that's brightness is excessive06:49
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Brian88my Kopete crashes if I tried to IM a Yahoo ID (it's "yeni.setiawan"), why?06:50
HollowPointno idea Brian88 I'd try updating it06:51
HollowPointenos how did you configure the dual screen?06:52
HollowPointhave you tried the external monitor on another machine to see if the monitor is just stuck as exceptionally bright06:52
enosHollowPoint: I didn't. it xorg just generated the xorg.conf automagically? ...so didnt manually do anything.06:53
HollowPointare you using the external monitor for dual screen or just as a replacement screen with the lid shut on the laptop?06:54
enosHollowPoint: I'm using the external LCD as a substitute for the lcd on the laptop.06:54
Guest63667anom01y: try chmod -R dir_name06:54
Brian88HollowPoint: howto update06:55
HollowPointok, in that case I would try running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" this will return your xorg.conf to it's normal state, then try booting it up again06:55
HollowPointBrian88 "sudo apt-get update06:56
Brian88HollowPoint: thx06:56
enosokay07:02
enosHollowPoint: "try booting it up again" do you mean the "x sever" or my laptop?07:04
HollowPointwell officially I meant your laptop but if you can't be bothered to wait then restarting the X server should actually be sufficient, I prefer the laptop though07:05
HollowPointdamnit, wonder which option he chose07:05
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Brian88HollowPoint: I cannot update it.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/19219/07:08
smAsBrian88: it tells you whats wrong ...07:13
smAsDuplicate sources.list entry cdrom://Kubuntu 8.04 _Hardy Heron07:14
HollowPointah07:17
HollowPointyou need to open the adept package manager from the k menu > System then click Adept menu and manager repositories, remove the entry which uses the Hardy Heron CD07:18
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Brian88HollowPoint: has updated it, but still have same problems...07:27
smAsBrian88: please past your /etc/apt/sources.list07:31
HollowPointthe screen is still pale?07:31
HollowPointwell I need to reboot, just run all the updates after a fresh install of Hardy on this laptop, back in a few minutes.07:32
lsemplewhy when I change the password for root, the password for kdesu is not changed07:34
lsempleI can log in with the root password using "sux", but "kdesu" the same password does not work ?07:35
smAsbecause you are in the sudoror group lsemple07:36
lsemplehow can I fix this ??07:36
Brian88smAs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19224/07:37
smAscheck the file /etc/sudoers07:37
smAsBrian88: you still get the duplicate errors07:38
lsemplesmAs: all I want to do is make it so I use the same root password for kdesu as sux ?07:39
lsemplek nm07:39
lsempleI will just use the regular user password I guess07:39
smAs!root07:40
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo07:40
lsempleyes thanks I had it set up different on my last system07:40
smAsBrian88: commente all the cd stuff with a # out if you are not using the cd anyway07:41
Brian88smAs: I use the CD'07:41
Brian88smAs: *CD07:42
smAsBrian88: than leave only one entry for cd in07:42
smAslsemple: than take your username out of the /etc/sudoers07:43
zEr0-xhi everybody!07:43
Brian88smAs: I deleted the 4 duplicate of the CD and kate says that : The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list. Check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is availabl07:46
smAsjesus Brian88 you have to be root to do so ...07:46
lsempledoes xmms exist anymore ????07:47
smAsno lsemple07:47
lsempledamn I had every plugin for that set up07:47
Brian88smAs:07:47
lsemplenow that I reinstalled everything its gone ??07:47
smAskdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:47
Brian88smAs: Finished. Now should I do the sudo apt-get update again?07:47
smAskdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list Brian8807:47
smAsyes try again07:48
smAs!info xmms07:48
ubottuPackage xmms does not exist in hardy07:48
smAs!info xmms207:48
ubottuxmms2 (source: xmms2): Client/server based media player system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2DrJekyll-4ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 10 kB, installed size 56 kB07:48
zEr0-xhow can I run a .bin installer ?07:48
smAs!info xmms2 | lsemple07:48
ubottulsemple: please see above07:48
zEr0-xhow can I run a .bin file ?07:48
lsemplexmms2 has a front end yet ?07:48
smAswhy would you zEr0-x07:48
Brian88smAs: Reading package lists... Done07:49
smAslsemple: i think yes but i don't use xmms07:49
smAsBrian88: good07:49
zEr0-xwhy would you zEr0-x ¿? I dunnot undersand07:50
lsempleit had a really good 32 channel stereo equalizer plugin07:50
smAswhat .bin file do you want to run and why zEr0-x07:50
smAsxmms was not maintained for a long time ... and there are better player out there07:51
zEr0-xI want to install kbasic (software development tool) but it came in a .bin file, and I don't know how to run it07:51
smAs!info kbasic07:51
ubottuPackage kbasic does not exist in hardy07:51
zEr0-xso... what should i do ?07:51
HollowPointvlc tends to do the trick :D07:52
HollowPointplays pretty much everything you can imagine07:52
smAszEr0-x: give me a second07:53
zEr0-xok smAs, thanks07:53
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smAszEr0-x: normaly it is cd to the folder and ./program_name.bin ... but be carefull with things like that ... the savest way is to install via apt-get or synaptic07:55
zEr0-xapt-get or synaptic, any how to?07:56
smAsthere is no package for kubuntu so you have to use the .bin ...07:56
zEr0-xso, how to use the apt-get for install the file ?07:57
smAszEr0-x: savest install is to install packages that are made for ubuntu ... you install them via gui synaptic or cli apt-get ... if the package is not supported for ubuntu apt-get will not find it ... you can also check here in the irc via !info <package> if it exists07:58
smAs!apt07:58
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:58
smAsif you install ./package-name.bin you might run into trouble ... for advanced linux user no problem but for new user this might cause some problems ... zEr0-x08:01
zEr0-xajá08:01
zEr0-xsMas, gracias08:01
zEr0-xI mean, thanks08:01
zEr0-x!info kbasic08:01
ubottuPackage kbasic does not exist in hardy08:02
zEr0-x!apt08:02
ubottuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)08:02
zEr0-x!Adept08:02
ubottuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto08:02
smAs:)08:02
HollowPointlmao @ <smAs> if you install ./package-name.bin you might run into trouble ... for advanced linux user no problem but for new user this might cause some problems ... zEr0-x I'm a sys admin and I still have trouble smAs lol08:06
zEr0-xHollowPoint » zEr0-x says: LOL08:07
matt_Hello everyone. I am not sure if I am using this correctly as it is my first time08:18
matt_I wanted to see if I could get some help using compiz on KDE08:18
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HollowPointmatt you may be better off in #compiz-fusion but I can try to help08:21
jussi01matt_: type: /join #ccompiz-fusion08:21
zEr0-xare there some available themes for Kubuntu ? where can I find them ?08:22
sonoftheclayrzEr0-x: Are you running KDE 3 or 4?08:23
HollowPointeither way kde-look.org08:24
HollowPointwww.kde-look.org08:24
HollowPointyou'll find all sorts for both KDE3 and 408:24
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zEr0-x708:25
zEr0-xsorry08:25
zEr0-x4*08:25
zEr0-x:)08:25
HollowPointbe careful playing with KDE4 but it is possible to modify it, just don't be surprised if some mods don;t work all that well, KDE4 is still young and raw08:25
eagles0513875morning08:26
zEr0-xooh, now I remember KDE 4 is a Beta version08:28
jussi01yep - and to get help for it, #kubuntu-kde4 is the place :)08:28
zEr0-xOoh-k08:29
zEr0-xis possible to instal beryl into Kubuntu ?08:30
weedarDoes anyone know of a program to communicate with the serial port?08:32
maggo79weedar: minicom08:33
weedarmaggo79: thank you :-)08:33
zEr0-xis possible to install ubuntu studio on Kubuntu ?08:33
ExilantzEr0-x: why do you want beryl and not compiz fusion?08:34
eagles0513875zEr0-x: compiz fusion is better then beryl08:35
eagles0513875im running compiz fusion and its got features of beryl mixed08:35
eagles0513875in08:35
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ProGрусские есть.08:35
ProG?08:35
ProGhallo!08:35
Exilant!ru08:36
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke08:36
Exilantmaybe that is the same language, no clue :)08:36
zEr0-xI said I wannted to install beryl 'cause is the onlyone program I saw, but now you tell me that exist another program... I'll try it (Sorry about my english, I'm not a native english speaker, and amateur too :) )08:37
Exilantregarding compiz-fusion, is there a way to play videos without flickering? (and without using awfully slow video outputs)?08:37
HollowPointcompiz-fusion IS beryll08:37
HollowPointExilant use VLC08:38
Exilantthat flickers a lot08:38
HollowPointsudo apt-get install vlc08:38
HollowPointI get no flickering, what graphics card do you have?08:38
Exilantati :(08:38
HollowPointzEr0-x Beryll and Compiz projects merged last year I believe to create compiz-fusion08:39
HollowPointExilant yes but which model?08:39
HollowPointATi are fine, the drivers for Linux are much better now08:39
HollowPointjust depends on the model08:39
Exilantmaybe08:40
Exilanti like compiz, it looks really wonderful, but no fast video, no googleearth, and the crashes, that is annoying08:41
zEr0-xmmm I'm having a little trouble08:41
HollowPointI've got google earth, perfect video and no crashes, sounds to me like your graphics card is not good enough to handle compiz in a stable manner08:41
HollowPointzEr0-x whats the trouble?08:42
zEr0-xI'm having trouble with the video driver08:42
HollowPointwhat is your video card?08:42
ExilantAre you using an ati card, HollowPoint?08:42
zEr0-xI've installed Kubuntu as guest using Vbox08:42
zEr0-xand Kubuntu doesn't allows me to change the res to an upper than 800*60008:43
zEr0-x:(08:43
HollowPointnope, I use an NVidia one on my Desktop machine and an Intel one on my laptop, I try to avoid ATi where possible, just purely because I prefer Nvidia08:43
zEr0-xI have tryed differents drivers08:43
HollowPointyou'll need to install the vbox linux additions zEr0-x08:44
zEr0-xI did!08:44
HollowPointand they installed properly?08:44
zEr0-xsure08:44
HollowPointthey didn't error out?08:44
zEr0-xno08:44
HollowPointhow did you install them?08:44
zEr0-xusing Vbox, I selected Install guest additions08:45
zEr0-xthen08:45
zEr0-xappeared a window08:45
Exilantok, seems to be a common problem on ati, the flickering08:45
zEr0-xwith the installer08:45
Exilantat least judging from forum posts08:45
zEr0-xLinuxInstall or something like that08:45
HollowPointall that did was download them zEr0-x there isn't an installer for Kubuntu as a guest to install the Linux Additions08:45
HollowPointyou have to do it from the command line08:45
HollowPointdoesn't surprise me Exilant, as I said ATi are fine now, just depends on the model and you have to be very specific with the drivers, with Nvidia there are 3 drivers I think, Legacy, recent and current, that's it and those drivers cover all models lol, with ATi you have to use a more specific driver for your chipset I beleive08:46
zEr0-xsure ?, but it seems to work perfect, cause I could mount the shared folder, And as I have understood (hasta donde tengo entendido) you cannot moount this shared folder without the linux guest addition08:46
zEr0-xthe file is a .run file08:48
Exilantwell, there is one proprietary and a lot of os drivers08:48
HollowPointcan you move your mouse in and out of the vm window without pressing the right hand ctrl key?08:48
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zEr0-xI can move my mouse in and out of the vm window! without pressing the right hand ctrl key!08:49
zEr0-xso...08:51
zEr0-xwhat should I do HollowPoint... The last driver I installed messed my system up08:53
HollowPointsorry was just setting up my kdm theme08:53
zEr0-xok08:54
HollowPointwell by default installing the linux additions installs the appropriate driver for the vm graphics card, I would suggest simply running the following command in the vm after running the linux additions and without changing anything, including drivers :08:54
HollowPoint"sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, this should configure a basic default xorg.conf which should provided the right driver is installed set the appropriate resolutions available08:55
zEr0-xok08:56
zEr0-xI'll try, and b right back in 5' :)08:56
zEr0-xoh another thing that nobody answered me08:56
zEr0-xcan i install Ubuntu Studio in Kubuntu ?08:57
HollowPointno idea zWe0-x not sure what Ubuntu Studio is, never used it09:04
zEr0-xok09:06
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[zEr0-x]for downloading compiz fuzion, what distro of linux source must I download? (ubuntu) ?09:09
HollowPointyou're not planning on using compiz-fusion in the vm are you?09:12
* ActionParsnip hopes they arent using it full stop09:12
[zEr0-x]for sure!09:14
[zEr0-x]:)09:14
[zEr0-x]why not ?09:14
HollowPointlol I'm doubting heavily that will work09:14
HollowPointcompiz requires a fair bit of juice09:15
[zEr0-x]do you speak spanish ?09:15
HollowPointlol @ ActionParsnip Compiz is ok in small doses09:15
ActionParsnipi think its a waste of time. it appears to pull eyecandyenthusiasts over but I ended up never using its "features" and the anims grew old09:15
HollowPointnot enough to have a proper conversation zEr0-x09:16
[zEr0-x]ok, I'll try to tell you a good phrase in english09:16
* ActionParsnip watches09:16
HollowPointActionParsnip, I use the minimize, close and open effect of vaccuum and genie and then I use the desktop cube for functionallity, oh and I like the truglass theme of emerald lol09:17
HollowPointother than that it's fine09:17
[zEr0-x]There aren't impossible things, "else" unable mans09:17
HollowPointhuh/09:18
HollowPoint?09:18
ActionParsnipHollowPoint: i just like a no nonesense desktop, hence fluxbox. I tried compiz and it just grated, kinda slowed me down09:18
HollowPointlol fair enoguh09:19
HollowPointI just fell in love with the desktop cube, allows me to do so much when I'm in full flow at work09:20
ActionParsnipHollowPoint: I just right click decorator, move to desktop x09:21
HollowPointI have a production machine that runs Kubuntu 8.04 with Compiz running, Virtualbox NON-FREE and a Windows XP installation, the desktop cube allows me to run the VM in full screen mode, while also being able to flip the cube around and use a dual screen Linux environment and then flick back to windows and if needed I can have Linux and Windows on a screen each09:21
ActionParsnipthen shortcut keys to flip to that desktop, instant change over09:21
HollowPointyeah but I never liked the multiple desktops feature, I run one desktop on multiple faces, just works better for me, personal preference lol09:21
ActionParsnipHollowPoint: yeah ive seen some devs with that, this mac guy thought he was awesome, so i pulled out my lappy and did the same09:22
ActionParsnipHollowPoint: indeed :)09:22
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[zEr0-x]Does (Do-I don't know what can I use in this sentence, Do or Does, pleaze tell me)..,. Does anybody know where can I download Leopard 10 ?09:25
HollowPointlol yeah at work most of the guys are windows engineers, I'm a Linux and Networking (Cisco mostly) specialist, they all diss linux all the time and think Mac is better etc, I got my laptop out and waited for them to real off all the shit a Mac could do and I said, "Take alook here" I enabled fire on screen etc etc the full works, everyone kinda shut up after that09:25
ActionParsnip[zEr0-x]: does is correct09:25
ActionParsnipdoes anyone, aimed at a wide audience. Do you, aimed at an individual09:25
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[zEr0-x]ok09:26
[zEr0-x]thanks you pal09:26
[zEr0-x]so09:26
[zEr0-x]does anybody know ?:D09:26
sonoftheclayrHow do I disable CPU scaling from the command line?09:26
ActionParsnip[zEr0-x]: ww.apple.com when you buy it09:26
flaccid_-www09:27
[zEr0-x]:) tnx09:27
ActionParsnipsonoftheclayr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8741509:27
jorgesandra_hello kubuntu usersççç1109:27
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bentob0xhow can I find all the files modified 20 minutes ago everywhere on my machine?09:28
ActionParsniphttp://commandline.org.uk/python/2008/may/22/list-files-recursively-modified-time/09:29
flaccid_you might be able to do it with strigi as well sorting by modified time09:29
flaccid_would take a while on non-indexed09:30
lsemplehow do I enable oss sound instead of alsa ?09:30
ActionParsniplsemple: no idea man, i always use alsa09:30
lsemplealsa doesnt support the new X FI extreme card09:31
lsempleprobably wont be very long09:32
ActionParsniplsemple: explains, I use onboard realtek thingys09:32
lsemplealso:09:33
lsemplewhenever I reboot I have to edit the grub config and change (hd2,0) to (hd0,0) how can I make that permanent09:33
ActionParsniplsemple: are you editing with kdesu kate / sudo nano ?09:33
lsempleyes09:34
lsempleer09:34
lsempleno09:34
lsempleI figured it out09:34
ActionParsnip;)09:34
ActionParsniplsemple: if you use sudo kate, I WILL send my flying monkeys to get you09:35
ActionParsniphmmm09:35
ActionParsnipcan you use kdesu / gksudo for cli commands?09:36
ActionParsnipand not screw stuff up09:36
rohananyone having this problem after yesterdays firefox update to 3rc1? http://i26.tinypic.com/m8i3is.jpg09:37
bentob0xthx ActionParsnip09:37
ActionParsniprohan: its still beta and not supported afaik09:38
rohanActionParsnip: so? ff3beta5 did not have this problem09:38
lalo_HOLA09:38
lalo_ALGUIEN DE MÉXICO??09:38
smAssame here rohan09:38
ActionParsniprohan: still beta software and is for testing only09:38
[zEr0-x]HollowPoint, I did what you told me "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" but non "higher" res. appeared09:38
[zEr0-x]quieres a alguien que hable español rohan ¿09:39
lalo_SIMÓN...09:39
smAs3.0~rc2-109:39
lalo_TENGO UN PROBLEMA CON EL AMAROK...09:39
lalo_COMO MADRE INSTALO LOS PLUGINS DE MP3??09:39
ActionParsniprohan: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0rc2/releasenotes/ 3rd line down09:39
rohanActionParsnip: it is included in the official repo!09:40
SlimeyPete!spanish09:40
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.09:40
rohanActionParsnip: it's not as if i'm beta testing it09:40
ActionParsniprohan: read the firefox website09:40
SlimeyPete!portuguese09:40
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.09:40
rohanActionParsnip: are you actually trying to make a point, or just acting like a dick?09:40
ActionParsniprohan: as it is for testing purposes a whole bunch of stuff can go awry09:41
ActionParsniprohan: im stating that its not supportable as its not official release09:41
[zEr0-x]HollowPoint, are you there ?09:41
rohanActionParsnip: you still don't get my point. it is included in the official repo.09:41
ActionParsniprohan: anyone who manages a repo could put any software they want on their repo, doesnt mean its supported and even the developers say its for testing only09:41
rohanif other people are experiencing the bug, i'll go file it.09:42
Pennycookrohan: Have you tried altering the colours of your KDE3 theme?09:42
rohanActionParsnip: so if you're experiencing it, tell me.09:42
rohanActionParsnip: otherwise, i KNOW VERY WELL that it's a beta09:42
ActionParsniprohan: im on 2.x.x and its fine09:42
smAsrohan: it is still in testing so not everything might work as you like it ...09:42
rohanActionParsnip: or rc.09:42
rohansmAs: i _know_09:42
rohanPennycook: hang on, i'll try09:42
ActionParsniprohan: so its not supported in the official channel as ts not an official release09:42
smAsso whats your point rohan09:43
rohanActionParsnip: i thought you were done?09:43
ActionParsniprohan: im done now09:43
smAslive with it or downgrade rohan09:43
rohansmAs: never mind my point.09:43
rohanso, is anyone experiencing that problem, or not?09:43
BlueDevildoes kubuntu 8.04 use pulseaudio by default?09:43
rohansmAs: i don't need a lecture on how it is beta or no, i know it. if it is a bug, i'll go file it in launchpad. get my point now?09:43
smAsyes same here and i am on  3.0~rc2-109:44
Pennycookrohan: On my KDE3 box it's definitely hard to read (but you can read it on mouseover).  It looks to me like more of a KDE3 integration issue than anything else; on KDE4 it's a different grey.09:44
cpk1lalo_: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras09:44
rohanPennycook: ah ok09:44
rohanPennycook: yes, i can read it on mouseover09:44
grubrohan, here09:44
smAssorry i wrote you minutes ago that it is the same problem here ...09:44
PennycookAlthough I think i may only be on rc1.09:45
rohansmAs: you're using packages from -proposed?09:45
smAsno i am not using *ubuntu09:45
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rohansmAs: ouch, i'm sorry, i did not notice your messsage. apologies09:45
cpk1BlueDevil: I dont think so09:46
smAsno worrys ... they will fix it soon just wait a couple of days rohan09:46
cpk1BlueDevil: or at least kde4 doesnt09:46
rohansmAs: ok, that bug is filed?09:46
BlueDevilcpk1: thanks09:46
rohansmAs: and, how did you get rc2? the repo just has rc109:46
rohanPennycook: you think it's been solved with rc2?09:46
HollowPointSorry guys but am moving tomorrow so got to get arse in gear, is 8:45pm here now and need to go to bed as we're up at 5am to go get a big 4 tonne truck, laters all09:47
smAs_rohan: i am on my debian/sid box09:47
rohansmAs_: oh, i thought you're using kubuntu09:47
rohansmAs_: or, you experience that problem on debian also?09:48
smAs_[15:45:15] ( smAs) no i am not using *ubuntu09:48
rohansmAs_: ahok.09:48
rohanPennycook: would you know whether a bug has been filed?09:48
Pennycookrohan: Nope.  Did changing your colours not do anything for you, then?09:49
[zEr0-x]what program can I use for programming in VB code whithin Kubuntu ? apps like mono or kbasic ?09:49
stefan-fHello all :)09:49
rohanPennycook: i've not tried it, but this happens on the default color scheme. should i file a bug09:49
rohan?09:49
[zEr0-x]hello stefan-f09:49
smAs_rohan: i have the same problem but i don't think it is a bug ... as soon as you hover over the link it will get black ...09:49
stefan-fIm looking for network measurement per protocol- basis. Can someone recommend something?09:49
Pennycookrohan: I suppose you could file it as a suggestion of some description, but it's not really a bug.09:50
smAs_rohan: feel free to report it as a bug if you feel like it09:50
[zEr0-x]smAs_: do you know about any GUI for program in VB language ? for Kubuntu obvious :)09:50
rohanPennycook: yes, changing the color scheme helps09:50
rohanPennycook: thanks, but i'm still wondering why it did not happen with 3beta509:51
smAs_[zEr0-x]: what program are you looking for09:52
rohan[zEr0-x]: gambas09:52
eagles0513875!info gambas09:53
ubottuPackage gambas does not exist in hardy09:53
[zEr0-x]gambas ?09:53
ActionParsniphttp://gambas.sourceforge.net/09:53
[zEr0-x]I'm getting in there09:54
smAs_http://gambas.sourceforge.net/09:54
smAs_:)09:54
smAs_"GOOGLE" is a search engine that comes in handy when you are looking for answers :) --- or is is your google-button broken? ---:: use your own browser ::---09:54
ActionParsnipask.com is good too09:55
giovanni_hhi guys09:55
giovanni_hhow do you unpack an rpm in the current directory?09:55
ActionParsnip!hi | giovanni_h09:55
ubottugiovanni_h: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!09:55
rohangiovanni_h: hang on.09:56
smAs_giovanni_h: rpm2cpio i think09:57
[zEr0-x]giovanny_h, we all are find, thanks09:57
[zEr0-x]:D09:57
[zEr0-x]is there a program maybe equals to VB-X-press 2008 ?09:58
giovanni_hsorry [zEr0-x]?09:58
rohangiovanni_h: use this script -- http://repos.archlinux.org/viewvc.cgi/rpmextract/repos/extra-i686/rpmextract.sh?revision=109:58
smAs_giovanni_h: rpm2cpio <rpm> | cpio -id09:58
giovanni_his it so difficult rohan?09:58
moope1thunderbird version 2.0.0.12 (20080227) is not displaying the body of my emails. Im using it with IMAP09:59
moope1any ideas?09:59
rohangiovanni_h: well, you can try out smAs_ trick too :)09:59
lsemple!mplayer09:59
ubottumplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs09:59
lsemple!codecs09:59
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:59
rohangiovanni_h: only, that script makes it simple09:59
rohanlsemple: please play with the bot in pm, not in the channel09:59
giovanni_hrohan: thanks, it worked10:00
rohangiovanni_h: rpm2cpio <rpm> | cpio -id --> that worked?10:00
akthonHola buenos dias10:03
smAs_!sp10:03
ubottuFactoid sp not found10:03
smAs_!es10:03
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.10:03
kapitonhi all10:06
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kapitonhelp me pleace, i cant compile from src: "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"10:09
kapitonwhat does it mean?10:09
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smAs_kapiton: dpkg -l | grep gcc10:12
* SaraSmith smiles10:12
SaraSmithbefore i went to bed we were working on my husband's computer (gutsy) which seemed to have no internet connection and video problems10:13
jcfp!compiling | kapiton10:14
ubottukapiton: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)10:14
SaraSmithhe moved the drive back to his old box.. the same error followed/10:14
[zEr0-x]difference trough ext2 and ext3?10:18
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barakodoes anybody here uses codeblocks 8.02 on ubuntu 7.01?10:19
StuckWithLinux#10:20
barakoif anyone does, pls msg. i really need help.10:20
nowherehi folks10:26
nowhereI'm looking for a decent GUI frontend for fish:// urls10:26
nowheredolphin just doesn't cut it at all10:26
[zEr0-x]mozilla maybe can help you ou10:26
[zEr0-x]out*10:26
nowherefish:// is scp10:27
nowhereI doubt firefox does that10:27
dbgltnowhere: doesn't konqueror handle it?10:27
engineerkonqueror10:27
dbgltquite well, last I used it10:27
nowherekonqueror asks for the password twice, and if I create a desktop url icon for the user, dolphin will open it, not konqueror10:27
nowheredolphin throws funny errors if you move the mouse over html files10:28
nowhereI'd settle for a tool with an ftp-like interface10:28
nowherethe user is used to winscp10:29
Pennycooknowhere: You could set up Konqueror as the default handler for all directories (to get around the fish:// on shortcuts thing), and if you used a public and private key pair you wouldn't need to authenticate at all.10:32
nowherePennycook: that's not an option offered for the server the user needs to connect to10:32
nowherePennycook: pubkey auth, that is10:32
Pennycooknowhere: Definitely?  I thought it was enabled most places.10:33
nowherePennycook: our university web server doesn't seem to use it10:33
nowherebut I can check10:34
PennycookIf you're connecting over SSH I would have thought they'd let you.  Just pop your public key in ~.ssh/authorized_keys.10:34
nowherePennycook: I think it's disabled in the sshd_config10:35
PennycookAh, that sucks.  I can't think of anything else.  Sorry.10:37
nowherePennycook: ah, never mind, it's the braindead local setup10:38
nowherePennycook: I don't see any good reason to not allow pubkey auth either10:38
PennycookIf I were you I'd ask your university about it.10:38
genus-8hi10:38
genus-8help me10:38
nowherePennycook: how'd I get konqueror to handle directories instead of dolphin?10:39
[zEr0-x]ok dudes, I'm leaving, thanks for your help and interest!10:39
Pennycooknowhere: If you run kcontrol there's a "File Associations" section.  Under "inode", there's options for directory and mount-point; just increase the priority for Konqueror.10:40
nowheregenus-8: I think the mind readers are on vacation10:40
genus-8what console (terminal) commands i need to install mp3 support in my kubuntu 8.0410:42
genus-8?10:42
nowheregenus-8: er, depends on the app10:45
nowheregenus-8: but usually you just need to install libmad10:45
genus-8give me terminal command for it10:46
genus-8please10:46
genus-8how an i install it?10:46
genus-8can*10:46
makdaknifegenus-8: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s10:47
genus-8thanks10:47
lalo_cual es el link de kubuntu-es???10:47
genus-8f*ck10:47
lalo_canal irc de kubuntu-es???10:47
genus-8my konqueror does not work on dialup10:47
makdaknifegenus-8: aptitude update; aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras10:48
genus-8makdknife -> okay thanks10:49
lalo_canal irc de kubuntu-es? alguien que me lo proporcione.-.......10:50
nowhere!es10:50
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.10:50
ubuntu_omg...i really need some help11:12
jussi01ubuntu_: ask!11:12
ubuntu_soz11:13
ubuntu_umm11:13
ubuntu_i was forced to uninstall kubuntu by my school11:13
ubuntu_they did it for me through windows disc manager11:13
Pennycook...Forced?11:13
ubuntu_they just formated it11:13
ubuntu_yeh..11:13
ubuntu_they formatted it11:13
ubuntu_and im getting the grub error 1711:14
PennycookDid you install  it on one of their computers or something?11:14
ubuntu_i cant fix the mbr cos they wont tell me the admin password11:14
ubuntu_can i do this through ubuntu?11:14
ubuntu_no11:14
ubuntu_its on my laptop11:14
jussi01!enter | ubuntu_11:14
ubottuubuntu_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!11:14
ubuntu_huh..??11:15
ubuntu_oh...soz11:15
ubuntu_well, wat should i do, i have found some pages on how to fix this through  alive disc as i am on now, but im not sure whether it will work, so i wanted someones opinion first11:16
dolfdoes anybody know how i can create an irc-channel with bot11:16
dolf?11:16
rascal999how do I get sound only coming out of headphones?11:16
ubuntu_hello...this is a serious problem11:16
ubuntu_i have exams11:16
dolfput you're box's off?11:17
ubuntu_omg...im so stressed..11:17
dolfmaybe you can mute youre box with kmix?11:17
ubuntu_who are u talking to??11:18
dolfyou :)11:18
ubuntu_oh11:18
ubuntu_rite..11:18
rascal999oh thanks dude11:18
dolfworked it?11:19
ubuntu_wat..wats happening....wtf!11:19
ubuntu_ure talking to me?? or rascal..11:19
ubuntu_omg omg omg...11:19
ubuntu_i found this page11:19
ubuntu_http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=334011:19
ubuntu_will this work11:19
ubuntu_oh im soo stuffed...11:19
Pennycookubuntu_: Please stop pressing enter at the end of your sentences.11:20
jussi01dolf: go and read freenodes web page for the irc channel creation, as for bots, have a look into supybot11:20
dolfthx11:20
jussi01!info supybot | dolf11:20
ubottudolf: supybot (source: supybot): robust and user friendly Python IRC bot. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.83.3-1 (hardy), package size 495 kB, installed size 2968 kB11:20
ubuntu_sorry...im just soo stressed and i really need an answer11:20
dolf@ ubuntu normal should work that11:21
renato__hi if I connect to a website like ftp://seiteurl.com  what port will I need to enable? at the moment I can access ftp://mysite.com from within the network, but not outside the NAT which leads me to believe I will need to do port redirection11:21
ubuntu_wats normal?11:21
renato__I ment  I can access ftp://mysite.com from within the network11:21
renato__I ment  I can access ftp://siteurl.com from within the network11:21
dolf@renato is it for ftp then you have to open youre port 22 i think :)11:21
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wthoangchanged my name.11:22
dolffor you're website port 8011:22
djtm_does someone know an acpi irc channel?11:22
renato__I can access www.mysite.com, but not ftp://mysite.com11:22
renato__from the internet, I can from the local network11:22
renato__I can from the local network but not from the internet11:23
dolfi don't know how you set you''re ftp-port it is port 21 or 22 default11:23
maggo79ssh: 22; ftp: 21; http: 8011:23
wthoangis there a way to fix my windows mbr through command on this live disc??? grub error 17????11:23
renato__I can  access ftp.mysite.com, what I cannot access is ftp://www.mysite.com11:24
dolfrenato you connect with an ftp-client or not?11:25
dolfand did you already open the port?11:25
renato__yes I can11:26
jcfpwthoang: that arsgeek site solution seems quite reasonable (except that package ms-sys doesn't exist anymore on hardy)11:28
wthoangomg...11:29
wthoangso i guess i'll ask again...is there a way to fix my windows mbr through command on this live disc??? grub error 17????11:30
Pennycook!patience | wthoang11:30
ubottuwthoang: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines11:30
jcfpwthoang: on gutsy or earlier you should be fine11:30
wthoangsorry...sorry...just stressed...i need this laptop for my exam studies11:30
Pennycookwthoang: If you do follow those instructions, though, I recommend reading the comments first.  Some people have said to use /dev/sda instead of /dev/sda1 since the latter would actually wipe your drive.  Heed his warning, too; it might screw things up.11:31
wthoangk..11:32
tekgeekltman I would never let anyone touch my computer ... having the school format my computer ... i would have been pissed and taken to whom ever is in charge11:33
PennycookYeah.  wthoang: If it's not a laptop you're borrowing from them (ie, it is your own and purchased with your own money) I'd recommend doing something about it.  They shouldn't be allowed to do that.11:33
wthoangyeh i dunno...i have bought it is mine. but its school policy to have one, its not like im the only one who has it11:34
wthoangthey sed because they dont like their proxy pak being used on anything other than internet explorer11:34
wthoangand theres this whole school lockdown for the network and stuff, its all getting snappy at out school, the it guys are real tight about it11:35
wthoangis there a way for me to reset the admin password for windows other than herins?11:36
tekgeeklthaha thats funny .... you could just let them know that is the worst program ever to use to get on the internet ... and I would be supprised if they dont have a million virii11:36
wthoangwat herins?11:36
jcfpwthoang: another option to fix your problem would be to reinstall kubuntu ;)11:36
wthoangif i did this, then grub will find the partition again. cos wat they have done is mounted the partition into an empty folder in the c drive11:37
wthoangcos if i did, i still have teh problem of having kubuntu on my comp11:38
tekgeekltwell it looks like he doesn't have the option to use kubuntu11:38
tekgeekltI did find a page that someone else was having that error but you may have already looked at it  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44294511:39
wthoangwell w8, if i do reinstall kubuntu, will grub find it and i can pick to go into windows again? and then from there, can i remove kubuntu without this problem again?11:39
_Angelus_re-installing kubuntu to remove kubuntu is not a sane choice11:40
RiotingPacifistshould i use envy or the defeault fglrx for an ati card?11:40
_Angelus_format you're pc with windows and grub and kubuntu will desapear11:40
wthoangwell...i need to bakup my stuff, and i have exams so i really cant afford to do that11:40
tekgeekltwhat version of windows are you using?  cause I have found that if you are using windows vista you can not use linux to resize the partions or it will wack the windows partions ..11:40
wthoangxp11:41
tekgeekltk11:41
wthoang_Angelus_: but is it possible11:41
_Angelus_possible... like droping a nuclear bomb you're computer11:42
_Angelus_;p11:42
jcfpentirely possible - just a bit overkill11:42
RiotingPacifisttekgeeklt: mine left vista there just i cant boot to it :(11:42
wthoangbut do i have another choice? i need to get rid of this error at any cost11:42
RiotingPacifistwthoang: whats the error?11:43
wthoangi formatted my kubuntu partition through windows disc manager, now i receive the grub 17 error11:43
wthoangwindows is there...11:43
_Angelus_wthoang: do you want to keep kubuntu or not? if you don't want to keep it, just format with windows , if you want to keep it, i duno11:44
wthoangwant to keep windows11:44
wthoangnot kubuntu, not allowed kubuntu11:44
_Angelus_then11:45
_Angelus_just format with windows11:45
tekgeekltI just got kubuntu installed here and one thing I found that I can not do is resize any window ... it shows the little arrows to allow me to resize but it does not do anything ...is there something i have to do to set that up ?11:45
_Angelus_kubuntu and grub will both be wiped out11:45
_Angelus_xD11:45
RiotingPacifistahh well in that case the safest way to do things is to stick a widnows disk in and get it to repair the MBR then format what was kubuntu to a new partition11:45
wthoangwell thats the problem...i have...grub doesnt get wiped11:45
wthoangwell i dont noe the admin password, i have already tried this11:45
tekgeekltwthoang: you may be able to pop the windows cd in the drive and do a repair option that may fix the issue11:45
_Angelus_wthoang: booth into the windows xp disc, press R for recovery console, then type in these 2 commands, fixmbr and fixboot11:46
_Angelus_that will get rid of grub11:46
wthoangyeh...as sed above..i dont noe the admin password..i coulda sworn that this was my account but the school image cleary doesnt allow this11:46
tekgeekltactually yes that will work  using the fixmbr option ... grub basically just replaces the windows boot manager11:46
wthoangi cant do anything until i noe the admin password11:46
_Angelus_well11:47
tekgeekltif you have the cd you don't need a password11:47
_Angelus_you said it, you CAN't , do anything ,,11:47
_Angelus_tekgeeklt: no, recovery console asks for the windows password11:47
tekgeeklthrmm11:47
wthoangya11:47
wthoanghow can i reset it11:47
wthoangi noe hirens can...11:48
wthoangbut 100mb doesnt suit my bandwidth11:48
_Angelus_you need to be secret mad scientists member and hack XP with bizare cracking equipment11:48
_Angelus_xD11:48
wthoangso theres no commands that can do this with kubuntu?...oh man..11:49
flaccid_was i spamming this channel just before at all? had a connection issue..11:50
tekgeekltcan you hit f8 and get into the safe mode for the computer?11:50
jcfpflaccid_: nope11:51
wthoanghavent tried...11:51
flaccid_jcfp, thanks !11:51
wthoangbut if i do try then i have to leave this live disc and start it up if it doesnt11:51
wthoangbut will that work11:51
tekgeekltthis page says he forgets the password he just goes into safe mode and logs in and changes the pass11:51
tekgeeklthttp://www.softwaretipsandtricks.com/forum/other-operating-systems/21512-crack-administrator-password.html11:51
* flaccid_ laughs11:51
wthoangis this the same page that goes into bios and boot modes?11:52
tekgeekltright after the bios screen you hit f8 but then you may not even get that far cause of the error11:52
flaccid_i just got here, can i ask the problem or should i not ask :)11:52
wthoanglol..that page just tells u how to find my password...but inorder to that u have to log into the admin account??11:53
tekgeekltyou may just have to talk to someone there and tell them .. you screwed up my computer and you have to give me the admin pass so I can fix it11:53
tekgeekltlog into the admin account via the safe mode11:53
flaccid_oh physical limitation11:53
flaccid_windows?11:53
tekgeekltwhich you sometimes can do with no password .. I would try all different things11:54
flaccid_yeah that got taken out SP1+11:54
tekgeekltall anyone here is going to tell you is what you can find on any search engine unless someone here has actually gone through the exact issue11:54
wthoangbut i noe the admin password isnt nothing11:54
wthoangtheres some letter11:54
wthoangi dunno..11:54
tekgeekltjust try everything you can before you say you can't do anything11:54
* flaccid_ didn't know this was a windows cracking chan11:54
flaccid_even ##windows probably won't help there :p11:55
tekgeekltno its not a windows cracking channel  the guy's school deleted ubuntu and screwed up his boot loader and he can't get back into his computer11:55
flaccid_!fixboot11:56
ubottuFactoid fixboot not found11:56
flaccid_!grubfix11:56
ubottuFactoid grubfix not found11:56
flaccid_!fixgrub11:56
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto11:56
wthoangits the mbr...i need to load the fixmbr through an alternate route to windows recovery mode from the disc11:56
flaccid_there it is. there can only be one MBR on the disk. so usually thats either windows MBR or Grub or Lilo etc. so as a rule of thumb, you install Linux last to get the bootloader and not Windows MBR. so follow the guide to restore grub..11:56
sonoftheclayrI had this problem a while ago...there is a program in the repos that will fix it11:57
flaccid_wthoang, fixmbr will restore the windows mbr and thus no dual boot11:57
wthoangyes..i dont want dual boot, i just want xp11:57
makdaknifeif you need to reset a windows admin password... use a boot disk like: http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html11:57
flaccid_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows is what fixes it.11:57
makdaknifeI've used it and it works great11:57
sonoftheclayrWait. Are you trying to install the windows mbr or dual boot with grub?11:57
flaccid_wthoang, goto ##windows for that (ie. fixboot and fixmbr from recovery console) or install grub11:57
makdaknifeyou won't crack the password... just reset11:57
tekgeekltyou know there is one other thing you can try but it takes some work...  look up windows live cd in google you will find a live cd with options to fix windows11:58
sigma_12whats a good text to speech program?11:58
sonoftheclayrwthoang: Are you trying to reinstall the windows mbr?11:58
makdaknifesigma_12: festival works11:58
wthoangsonoftheclayr: yess11:58
flaccid_wthoang, i just gave the info for that :)11:59
sonoftheclayrwthoang: Do you have an ubuntu live cd?11:59
flaccid_ubuntu livecd cannot restore a windows MBR11:59
sonoftheclayrflaccid_: Yes it can. You just have to install something from the repos. I did it last week.12:00
flaccid_sonoftheclayr, no worries, what do you install?12:00
flaccid_still this question is for ##windows , not here..12:00
flaccid_!info mbr12:01
ubottumbr (source: mbr): Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.9-3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 22 kB, installed size 92 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)12:01
flaccid_sonoftheclayr, that ?12:01
flaccid_its optional :)12:01
wthoangthat'll work??12:01
sonoftheclayrflaccid_: I don't think it was that. It was on Arsgeek if that helps. My e key isn't going to work so I can't google it12:01
wthoangi'll give it a go12:01
flaccid_what is Arsgeek ?12:02
wthoangyes..i had the ars geek page but the thing is that i dont wanna touch it...im not that good with linux12:02
flaccid_wthoang, dude just goto recovery console and run fixmbr and fixboot , done12:02
flaccid_you do have a legit copy of windows?12:02
wthoangyes of course12:02
flaccid_then do that12:02
flaccid_end of story :)12:02
wthoangthe problem is that i dont noe the admin password12:02
flaccid_not our problem..12:02
wthoangi cant get past that point if i did, then itd be simple12:03
wthoangwell now im looking for an alternate way12:03
flaccid_can't help you, goto ##windows12:03
sonoftheclayrwthoang: You can crack that as well. There are boot disks on the internet that will reset the admin password.12:03
flaccid_we don't help cracking here12:03
wthoangi dont want cracking...there must be someway without cracking to do this12:03
flaccid_maybe there is12:03
Pennycookwthoang: Why don't you know the admin password?12:04
wthoang!info mbr12:04
flaccid_but we don't support Windows here sorry12:04
ubottumbr (source: mbr): Master Boot Record for IBM-PC compatible computers.. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.9-3ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 22 kB, installed size 92 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia)12:04
sonoftheclayrwthoang: I don't see a problem. It's your computer and it's your password. All it does is remove it12:04
BlueDevilhow can i apply my user styles (theme, fonts, etc) to programs running as root (synaptic for example) ?12:04
wthoangcos its a school image put onto the laptop12:04
Pennycookwthoang: Then ask them.12:04
wthoangwith all this software and stuff12:04
wthoangi have exams tomoz and im at home12:04
=== mm_ is now known as Atlan
flaccid_BlueDevil, it would have to be under root's profile, so although its not good to login as root, if you really need it then login as root and change appearance12:04
flaccid_wthoang, not our problem sorry12:04
wthoangrelating to that !info mbr is that the normal windows mbr or the grub one?12:05
BlueDevilflaccid_: thanks12:05
flaccid_np12:05
NyadHi. I have a program (fasm) that I would like to make directly accessible from the command-line without having to go to fasm's directory. How do I do this?>12:05
flaccid_wthoang, not sure, its just what i found with a search12:05
PennycookBlueDevil: Alternatively, running systemsettings as root might have the same effect.12:05
RiotingPacifistshould i use envy or the default fglrx for an ati card?12:05
flaccid_!permissons | Nyad12:05
ubottuFactoid permissons not found12:05
flaccid_!perms | Nyad12:06
ubottuFactoid perms not found12:06
flaccid_hmm12:06
Nyadhow is this about permission?12:06
flaccid_RiotingPacifist, no Hardware Drivers Manager12:06
flaccid_!permissions | Nyad12:06
ubottuNyad: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview12:06
Nyadtnx12:07
flaccid_!ati | RiotingPacifist12:07
ubottuRiotingPacifist: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:07
flaccid_np12:07
RiotingPacifistflaccid_:  ive been using that but its unstable and its just a frontend to install default anyway12:08
flaccid_RiotingPacifist, not correct. it installs the exact drivers you get from ATI's website. so your problem is probably something more specific..12:08
flaccid_can you explain the actual problem?12:09
RiotingPacifistfullscreen rendering of flash either with/without compiz is choppy, and my system randomly crashes badly, X freezes and all VTTs are messed up12:09
flaccid_and you just assume its the driver?12:10
flaccid_well how you install the driver is irrelevent...12:11
wthoangive been told to do the following check your grub.conf from a live cd environment. mount your partitions and modify your grub.conf so it works12:11
flaccid_configuration is a different story. RiotingPacifist which version of Kubuntu and please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:11
jtismesound/video all work cannot play streaming radio over internet searched all over for answers anyone have any ideas12:11
flaccid_wthoang, grub can't even access your windows partition. so no.12:11
wthoangk12:12
jtismetried everything using amarok12:12
RiotingPacifistwthoang: its called /boot/grub/menu.lst in ubuntu12:12
flaccid_wthoang, we have already advised what is needed :)12:12
RiotingPacifistoh right nvm12:12
BlueDevilPennycook: i tried that, didn't work12:12
wthoangyeh ok..12:12
flaccid_RiotingPacifist, i run ATI so it concerns me that you have unknown problems...12:12
kg4rxshow do i remove a reposatory but unable to acssis the list12:13
flaccid_kg4rxs, adept manager12:13
RiotingPacifistwell im going to reboot to envy, even though it shouldnt make a difference, but i insrtalled it last nite, then ill hopefully be back, appologies for ignoring advice but its early and im too lazy to revert the change, either way its the same driver right12:14
flaccid_i usually like to find the problem and fix it, but a lot of people like to play around and reboot 10 times :)12:15
flaccid_i mean driver != configuration12:15
sharpe_uk>jtisme, have you added medibuntu to packages list?12:16
jtismesharpe_uk, yes and followed the community write up on sound and video12:17
sharpe_ukmost streams are mp3, check you have libxine1-ffmpeg installed12:17
flaccid_is w32codecs installed from medibuntu..12:18
steve__exit12:18
jtismesharpe_uk, ok let me check I am sure i do have to crank up the machine i am testing audio on brb12:18
jtismesharpe_uk, yes libxine-ffmpeg is installed12:22
sharpe_ukis amarok-xine installed?12:22
jtismesharpe_uk, when i try to play streaming radio in amarok it puts up a msg 'no suitable demux' available12:22
kg4rxscoud not remove12:23
kg4rxs Type 'http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg' is not known on line 58 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list12:23
kg4rxsE: Unable to lock the list directory12:23
flaccid_jtisme, that is a known bug with shoutcast server, can't do anything. but you can click on the stream until it loads...12:23
jtismesharpe_uk, yes it is installed12:23
sharpe_ukunder maintainer does it say "Medibuntu Package Team"?12:23
jtismesharpe_uk, where is 'maintainer' you ask about12:24
sharpe_uksimplest way, open Adept Manager, type in amarok under search then click the blue arrow on the amarok-xine package12:24
sharpe_ukitll give you all the details for that package..12:25
flaccid_kg4rxs, you have an invalid sources.list12:25
jtismeok let me see12:25
kg4rxsi know how do edet it12:25
flaccid_kg4rxs, with a text editor like kate under kdesudo12:27
jtismesharpe_uk, yes maintainer medibuntu packaging team12:27
kg4rxsok iwill try it12:28
flaccid_jtisme, its a bug12:28
sharpe_uk>jtisme, ok, point me to the stream you are trying to play, Ill see if it plays here (rule out the stream is at fault)12:28
flaccid_i deal with it every day jtisme12:28
flaccid_click on the stream jtisme until it works12:28
sharpe_uk>flaccid, so do I but sometimes the stream really is broken and sometimes you just have to try a few times..12:28
flaccid_sharpe_uk, its a but in shoutcast server, not xine apparently....12:28
flaccid_but=bug12:28
flaccid_i investigated this pretty heavily back in the day12:29
jtismesharpe_uk, www.wgst.com  select listen live next page select listen live also12:29
larshi all12:30
larscan anyone help me? i want to install a wlan card driver for my msi notebook on ubuntu12:31
flaccid_!wireless | lars12:32
ubottulars: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:32
SlybootsHi12:32
flaccid_follow that for your wireless if it doesn't work out of box12:32
sharpe_uk>jtisme, "Due to licensing restrictions, we are not able to allow access to the content you are requesting from outside the United States."12:32
larsok thx12:32
flaccid_ah server problem12:32
SlybootsDoes anyone know if there are any guides for installing Linux/Windows dualboot on a Mac OS X machine?12:32
sharpe_uk>flaccid, nah, my IP resolves outside the US (Im in the UK)12:33
flaccid_Slyboots, did you try google ?12:33
SlybootsIt ried it, but the shit hit the fan because the boot process kind of went.. tits up12:33
SlybootsSeveral times12:33
flaccid_sharpe_uk, still server problem... thats configured on the server12:33
SlybootsEvery guide involves using OS X12:33
jtismesharpe_uk, ok thanks12:33
jussi01!ohmy | Slyboots12:33
ubottuSlyboots: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.12:33
sharpe_uk>flaccid, yes but the point is that its a different problem to what jtisme since Im assuming he is inside the states he'll get past that point12:33
jussi01!macbook | Slyboots12:34
ubottuSlyboots: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot12:34
flaccid_Slyboots, well if you have an intel mac then you can just install normally12:34
=== didi is now known as Didi
jtismesharpe_uk, under amarok i get the message 'no suitable demux' when trying to play  www.wgst.com...  any ideas there what demux i need12:34
=== Didi is now known as Didi_ITA
flaccid_sharpe_uk, well to get to the bug you would need authorisation first...12:34
Slybootsflaccid_, Tried that.. sits for a good 50 seconds at each boot while it tries to decide what OS to even boot12:34
jtismeflaccid, i wasnt ignoring you just could not converse with both of you at the same time12:34
SlybootsWhich for a dual-boot system is pretty bad12:34
=== luke_ is now known as TheFuzzball
sharpe_uk>jtisme, as flaccid already mentioned, you sometimes get that error even when the stream will work, clicking it a few times will work..12:37
sharpe_ukin those cases anyway12:37
TheFuzzballHi, I have an Ati Radeon HD 2400 Graphics card and I just installed Kubuntu, what drivers should I use for it? (I installed fglrx and in wouldn't let me set a res higher than 600x400)12:38
jtismesharpe_uk, ok i will try it out thanks to all12:38
wthoangim runnign the live disc and i need to burn something. can i just take out the live disc?? thi is probably a stupid question12:38
sharpe_uknp12:38
jussi01!ati | TheFuzzball12:39
ubottuTheFuzzball: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:39
jussi01TheFuzzball: also, see !fixres f your resolution after that is not right12:40
TheFuzzballthanks12:40
wthoangso can i just take out this live disc12:41
DeepThoughtsomething very wrong with my kde3: every app I start, every action I do in an app, the app in question goes grey and takes about a minute before it happens, and/or another minute to allow input to the window.  drives me craaazy !   what could be wrong ?  the trouble started after installing kde4.1 beta, but I removed it and the problem persists, maybe there´ s no cennection to that anyway...   Other apps (non-kde) are fine (like firefox),12:45
DeepThoughtso it has to be kde-related12:45
wthoangdoes running this live cd make it impossible for me to eject my disc12:48
wthoang??12:48
larscan anyone help me to install my wlan?12:48
larswith ndiswrapper it doesnt work12:48
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BlueDevildoes synaptic look ugly for everyone else?13:07
PennycookBlueDevil: Under Kubuntu?13:07
BlueDevilyes13:07
PennycookYup.  Reason being that root doesn't apply the KDE theme to GTK.13:08
haryonokubuntu jakarta indonesia pls13:08
Jucatoalthough theoretically, it should be trying to look like KDE 3 apps, unless you're using KDE 413:08
Jucato!id | haryono13:08
ubottuharyono: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia13:08
BlueDevilPennycook: i've actually tracked the problem to the necessary environment variable not being set13:08
BlueDevilbut i don't know where is the proper place to set that variable13:09
BlueDevilit used to work in kubuntu 7.1013:09
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frybyeHi - I have a usb stick with amongst other stuff a bookmarks.html on it that I want to copy onto the pc.. when I move over the file with the cursor I get :/usr/share/apps/d3lphin/servicemenus/amarok_addaspodcast.desktop13:11
BlueDevilif I run synaptic from konsole using sudo it looks fine13:11
frybyeas a fault report window.. what is all this about?13:11
frybyei just want to copy the file...13:12
frybyewhy is it talking about Add as a podcast.. I have not the slightest interest in podcasting my bookmarks.html...?13:12
genus-8help me guys13:15
* angasule gives genus-8 a lollypop13:15
genus-8emm.. i cant use konqueror on dialup?13:15
genus-8why?13:16
angasulegenus-8: what do you mean you can't use konqueror on dialup? it's too slow?13:16
frybyeangasule: can i have a lollipop and somebody give me a clue what this business with "add to podcast " is all about..?13:16
genus-8no13:16
genus-8it doesnt work on dialup connection13:17
genus-8i talk to you now? but browser cant open any link13:17
angasulefrybye: no idea? maybe they go well with mustard?13:18
angasulegenus-8: you are chatting through dialup?13:18
genus-8yea13:18
frybyeangasule: it is not me who is dishing up the mustard this afternoon...13:18
genus-8and use my ICQ protocol13:18
genus-8but konqueror and kmail doesnt work..13:19
frybyewhy in Heavens' name should trying to select a file on a usb stick produce a window about podcasting???13:19
shane__genus-8: are you mabey set to work offline and that is why you cant make a conection13:19
genus-8just a second i will see13:19
angasulefrybye: maybe it thinks your pen drive is an mp3 player?13:19
frybyehmmm can it be the the usb-stick is being treated in .. that is just what I was about to say.. how chan I change that..?13:20
genus-8offline mode is off13:21
genus-8i dont know why i cant see any links any pages in internet13:21
shane__have you atempted firefox also13:21
genus-8тщ13:23
genus-8no13:23
genus-8and in my distro no packs13:23
genus-8with mozilla13:23
willluongoHello, this may seem like a stupid question, but after installing kernel 2.6.24-18-generic, can I just change the number 17 in kernel 2.6.24-17-generic to 18 so grub will load the newest kernel?13:32
Raizar1I have a problem with flash support in konqueror. I have installed the plugin for firefox, and with it works all right. But konqueror can't play flash videos (youtube). Is there another way to do it?13:33
willluongoRaizar1: Did you try installing the flash [plugin through adept?13:34
shane__what comand is used to find the version of kubuntu in terminal13:34
willluongoRaizar1: If so, also install konqueror-nsplugins13:35
Raizar1willluongo: i installed kubuntu-restricted-extras, libflashsupport,flashsupport-mozplugin and also konqueror-nsplugins13:35
willluongoRaizar1: Sorry I can't be of more help, that worked on mine13:36
willluongoRaizar1: Did you get flashplugin-nonfree?13:36
Raizar1willluongo: yes. Konqueror see the libflashsupport.so plugin for firefox, but still can't play flash13:37
Raizar1gnash doesn't work too13:38
jordi_hola13:41
angasule!es | jordi_13:41
ubottujordi_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.13:41
genus-8i need terminal command to install firefox, thanks13:43
engineersudo aptitude install firefox_13:44
engineersudo aptitude install firefox13:44
jordi_I would like to know were is the option to create a new user from KD413:45
genus-8kay thanks13:45
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genus-8doesnt work13:46
TheFuzzballdoes anyone know the depencencies for Phonon in Qt 4.4?13:47
engineergenus-8 sudo apt-get install firefox13:51
genus-8update first? or just apt-get install firefox13:52
genus-8?13:52
shane__sudo apt-get install firefox13:52
shane__then update13:52
Rioting_pacifistive tried everything bu fullscreen flash still sucks :( (setting up DRI in xorg.conf, upgrading to 10, running firefox-32bit with flash 10, well not everything but thats all i could think off)13:55
Raizar1no way to use flash in konqueror13:57
Rioting_pacifistflash in konq works the same as in firefox13:58
engineerRaizar1 don't you like fx3?13:58
zorglu_q. can someone say my name this is for a test13:58
Rioting_pacifistzorglu_:13:58
Raizar1engineer yes but konqueror + kget is a good team13:58
zorglu_Rioting_pacifist: thanks13:59
genus-8ящкпдг13:59
Rioting_pacifistRaizar1: you install flash like you would for firefox and konqueror picks it up13:59
genus-8zorglu_13:59
engineerRaizar1 fox+dta good team13:59
Raizar1i know but in KDE K+Kget is best ^^13:59
engineerRaizar1 have you tried the awesomebar in fox 3?14:00
zorglu_q14:01
Raizar1engineer lol i know firefox 3 i always use ff 3 but now i want to use konqueror14:01
zorglu_q. i got gnome ubuntu installed, and would like to switch to kde desktop, what should i do ?14:01
Rioting_pacifistthis isnt the place to discus which browser is best14:01
zorglu_genus-8: thanks :)14:01
Rioting_pacifistzorglu_:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop14:01
engineerzorglu_ a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop14:01
zorglu_Need to get 163MB of archives.14:02
zorglu_After this operation, 598MB of additional disk space will be used.14:02
zorglu_oopsa :)14:02
Rioting_pacifistflaccid__: you said that your on ATI too, does fullscreen flash work ok for you?14:02
genus-8hehe, guys i am laging on 17 secs14:03
genus-8cool14:03
engineerno wonder it took you so long14:03
pim_exit14:03
genus-8exit14:06
eagleboyhello, I was wondering if anyone could help me with widgets on KDE 4.014:07
eagleboyI accidently removed the application launcher and when I added it to the panel it placed it on the right side, anyone know how to move it back the left?14:08
jtisme kubuntu 8.04 cannot get www.wgst.com streaming radio all other sound/video works fine anyone have any ideas  all medibuntu loaded etc.14:08
jtismeamarok says  'no suitable demux'  vlc  says unrecognized format ???14:09
zorglu_jtisme: what is the url of the stream14:09
jtismezorglu_, www.wgst.com  select Live Listen first page,  Select Listen Live second page14:10
zorglu_http://a1802.v182276.c18227.g.vm.akamaistream.net/7/1802/18227/v0001/cchannel.download.akamai.com/18227/5881/richmedia/Shoes_15_3_2.wmv14:11
zorglu_this is the url :)14:11
haryonohow to find jasper image convert to run webcam in kubuntu?14:13
zorglu_jtisme: ok i failed to get anything. not even a unknown demux14:14
jtismezorglu_, interesting14:15
jtismezorglu_, streaming radio appears to be the beast that is not conquered yet14:16
zorglu_jtisme: all the audio/video stuff is ultra crappy :)14:16
zorglu_jtisme: i do p2p streaming for a living14:17
zorglu_jtisme: http://player.web4web.tv/e334e91c/live/france24_fr.flv listen to this :) you hear their weird voices ? this is a bug in vlc :)14:17
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, yes it does - the flash thing14:17
* flaccid- just got back14:17
jtismezorglu_, i think i saw a post from canonical about an effort to make sound/video world class soon14:17
jtismezorglu_, p2p ??14:17
flaccid-jtisme, "to make sound/video world class soon" ? link please14:18
zorglu_jtisme: yep, you get a "install webpack" on the bottom right, this is the p2p stuff.14:18
zorglu_i would LOVE to get proper audio/video on computer :)14:18
Rioting_pacifistflaccid-: are you using ati or mesa drivers?14:19
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, mesa is not a driver. i use the restricted driver14:19
jtismeflaccid, dont remember link it was a comment by someone at a show with conical14:19
flaccid-there is the well known mesa problem however14:19
flaccid-jtisme, what is it exactly?14:19
jtismezorglu_, what does p2p stand for i am very new to sound/video stuff14:20
flaccid-p2p has nothing to do with video or sound. peer to peer = p2p14:20
zorglu_jtisme: ah ok :) p2p is just a network architecture. in the case of audio/video streaming this allow to reduce the bandwidth used by the servers14:20
jtismezorglu_, thanks14:21
Rioting_pacifistim using restricted too (although i cant find restricted manager since using envy :( oops, i should always listen to advice) but fullscreen flash is choppy (about the same in/out of compiz)14:21
flaccid-zorglu_, but the whole file needs to be downloaded first. so this is irrelevent..14:21
zorglu_just a small details "has nothing to do" = "not specific to" :)14:21
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, the problem is flash.14:21
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jtismeflaccid, thanks should have known that14:22
flaccid-zorglu_, ah ok..14:22
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Rioting_pacifistflaccid-: how do i fix, im on 64 bit but ive tried flash 10 (on firefox(32)/firefox(64)) and flash 9 (on firefox(64)/konqueror)14:23
zorglu_flaccid-: it is not required to download the whole file before starting playing. in fact in the case of the http://player.web4web.tv/e334e91c/live/france24_fr.flv this is a live streaming. aka there is no 'file'14:23
zorglu_just a stream14:23
zorglu_but all that is quite offtopic :)14:23
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, you can't fix. unless the quality of the videos are increased and adobe does something about the poor performance, particularly on linux. case closed :(14:23
Rioting_pacifistflaccid-: but the video are of perfectly good quality and it worked fine on gutsy (well flash9 did)14:24
flaccid-zorglu_, it depends on what type of file. and this is commercial not open so....14:24
angasuleflaccid-: well, specs are out, so hopefully we'll get a good flash player sometime14:24
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, is this with desktop effects/compiz on?14:25
flaccid-angasule, we will be lucky if flash 10 fixes the problems. i will be happy if it does14:25
Rioting_pacifistin gutsy it was with compiz off, but in hardy it seams to make no difference if compiz is on/off14:25
angasuleflaccid-: I'm more interested in open source flash :)14:25
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, keep in mind probably a dif version of flash in gutsy - they like to change flash a lot14:26
Rioting_pacifistflash 10 is slightly better on cpu usage but thats about it14:26
flaccid-angasule, open source flash development exists. but decent flash players don't because its closed.14:26
zorglu_Rioting_pacifist: flash 10 is out ?14:26
flaccid-this is the problem with closed sourced/proprietery software~!! accept it..14:26
angasuleflaccid-: the specs were released recently14:26
Rioting_pacifistno it was the same flash 9 from adobe site they dont change it that often, apart from patches, but my flash9 was fairly new14:26
flaccid-SVG is what should be used instead.14:26
flaccid-angasule, that doesn't help useability :14:26
Rioting_pacifistzorglu_: its in beta, crashes gutsy but seams ok in hardy14:27
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, complain to Adobe :)14:27
zorglu_people should give way to pay rent/food with opensource, it would bring many people to opensource14:27
zorglu_Rioting_pacifist: ok thanks14:27
flaccid-its a 3rd party plugin that simply gets embedded. what the plugin does has nothing to do with the program embedding it...14:27
Rioting_pacifistflaccid-: its not a problem with adobe that it worked in 7.10 but is jumpy in 8.04 the change was made to ubuntu to change this, flashs sucking has nothing to do with this14:27
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, proove it to me. because it worked on one version and didn't on the other, concludes nothing.14:28
drurewdo you know if its possible to use the "skype" servicies without having to use this "bad" application ??? can i port it to kopete or something ?14:28
zorglu_flash suck but it is 98% :)14:28
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, some real evidence please?14:28
drurewlol14:28
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flaccid-its flash, get over it..14:28
Rioting_pacifistwtf how can i give evidence that something used to work fine but didnt, stop being a zelot this is a support channel leave your flash sucks at the door14:29
drurewflash is for uzers14:29
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, this is the nature of closed sourced software. it makes people like you make bad assumptions. i love flash, but its support is what sux, not flash itself.14:30
zorglu_flaccid-: how do you pay rent/food ?14:30
flaccid-you are merely guessing14:30
pimCould anyone tell me what the advantage of ubuntu is over Debian?14:30
flaccid-zorglu_, with a job14:30
flaccid-pim, there is none14:30
angasuleflaccid-: right, it's like communism, sounds good in principle, but implementations suck :)14:30
Rioting_pacifistif something used to work in ubuntu its perfectly reasonable to belive that some setting has changed and that that setting can be reverted to get it working fine, i mean the suse guys didnt turn round to linus and say its adobes fault move along now, they tracked down the problem at thier end and fixed it, maybe thats why hes on opensuse not ubuntu tho14:30
angasulepim: ubuntu is better polished14:31
drurewFLAME WAR :D14:31
zorglu_flaccid-: doing opensource dev?14:31
flaccid-angasule, they never put decent resources into supporint *niz14:31
flaccid-nix14:31
drurewboom14:31
angasulepim: I use both, btw, and love both :)14:31
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, ignorance.14:31
pimUbuntu is more userfriendly you mean?14:31
Rioting_pacifistpim: ubuntu do time based release cycles, debain dont14:31
angasuleflaccid-: I'd say it sucks on windows as well14:31
Rioting_pacifistthats it14:31
angasulepim: yes, but there is more to it than that14:31
pimSo why has someone decided to fork debian?14:31
drurew:D14:32
drurewjust take the custard instead14:32
drurew;P14:32
Rioting_pacifistflash runs on linux as a firefox plugin, if it ran fine in 7.10 then it doesnt run fine in 8.04 a change was made somewhere in the linux side as flash 9 has not changed14:32
flaccid-closed sourced software rarely works inline with OS standards...14:32
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, thats what you think. quite different from reality.14:32
flaccid-have a look at the flash versions14:33
flaccid-then come back14:33
zorglu_and opensource got significant marketing power :)14:33
pimangasule why do you use both?14:33
Rioting_pacifistno it has significantly less, hence apple is bigger14:33
drurewRioting_pacifist: why dont you check what your running ...versions of new software may conflict old settings14:33
flaccid-omg the ignorance14:33
drurewyeah guys this is way off toppic14:34
zorglu_yep clearly :)14:34
drurewyou know where to tak eit ???14:34
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, now please look at this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flashplugin-nonfree&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all it shows the change in versions between releases. flash changed, the distro didn't......14:34
angasulepim: I have different uses for different computers, I use kubuntu hardy on my main desktop, kubuntu dapper on the family desktop (they don't like change), debian etch on server and laptop (it's an old laptop with a low speed net connection)14:34
flaccid-well not really. Rioting_pacifist is claiming problem is kubuntu which it is not14:34
zorglu_well this is a war opensource vs closesource, pro and con14:35
drurewRioting_pacifist: the problem is your software ...please RTFM 14:35
zorglu_nah the problem are the others. they are the ones to blame14:35
angasuleRioting_pacifist: flash for linux is particularly badly programmed, I used to follow the blog of the guy in charge of it, and frankly he was so clueless it was frightening14:35
zorglu_all of them14:35
Rioting_pacifistflaccid- no package in the repos ever contained flash they are just wrappers to the installer which doesnt neciserily change when the wrapper changes14:35
flaccid-so in gutsy it was 9.0.48.0.2 and in hardy it was 9.0.124. this is adobe's change, not ubuntu. so get over it...14:36
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, oh please. yes, but they get different versions.14:36
flaccid-get your facts straight14:36
drurewexit14:36
Rioting_pacifistdrurew: which manual?14:36
zorglu_ok i do agree14:36
drurewhahahahahahahahaha14:36
zorglu_take your war on -offtopic14:36
flaccid-i agree.14:36
flaccid-this has nothing to do with ubuntu.14:36
Rioting_pacifistthats all i wanted to know which manuals do i need to read to sort out the flash problem14:36
flaccid-take it somewhere else.14:36
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, reading a manual is not going to help.14:37
dmialhello, people! say me, please, how can I change skin of volume indicator, which appears on screen, when I adjust sound volume with multimedia keys of keyboard? thanks14:37
drurewgo to your terminal and enter: man man or man help to find out more about your computer14:37
zorglu_mouarf14:37
zorglu_!coc | drurew14:37
ubottudrurew: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/14:37
Rioting_pacifistright man man tells me how to read manuals thats not what need sorting14:37
* flaccid- yawns14:38
drurewRioting_pacifist: you wll have to start somewhere ...esp if you dont know what your loking for14:38
Rioting_pacifisti though you know a support channel might of been of some use14:38
Rioting_pacifistflaccid-: flash9 was last updated december 2007, my gutsy install was done in feb so it is the same version of flash14:39
zorglu_Rioting_pacifist: the issue is that you talked about something unpopular here. so you are blacklisted for a while ... like in 2h or tomorrow they will forget. but for now you wont get the best out of this channel14:39
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, dude. that doesnt actually compare versions at all. you are disregarding many things and im over talking with you on this take it somwhere else like #idontunderstandclosedsourcesoftware14:40
drurew http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/index.cfm?forumid=1514:40
zorglu_flaccid-: if .124 is bugged, and .48 work, you can easily install the .48 by only overwriting the .so14:40
flaccid-zorglu_, i know this.14:40
zorglu_flaccid-: my bad it was for Rioting_pacifist14:41
zorglu_Rioting_pacifist: see above14:41
flaccid-flash is the worst for konqueror users. have a look at this. because of the change in api/binary this is what opera users have to do: http://my.opera.com/remcolanting/blog/2008/04/14/opera-and-flash-on-linux14:41
flaccid-so some flash versions work, some don't and most have issues in terms of video. nothing to do with ubuntu or linux or kde.14:42
flaccid-can i shutup now or what?14:42
Rioting_pacifistplease do14:42
zorglu_flaccid-: please do :)14:42
zorglu_damn same joke, but im first on my screen :)14:42
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, will you close the topic as well?14:42
haryonokubuntu jakarta indonesia?pls14:43
Rioting_pacifistill continue to ask questions relevant to my problem ill just adress them in a way that wont provoke your fury against closed sourced software14:43
[EGC-i]ThinIceCould anyone suggest why when trying to run firefox since yesterdays update I just get the following error "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 416: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!"14:43
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, no. stop. it has nothing to do with kubuntu so take it elsewhere ok!14:44
zorglu_flaccid-: relax man14:44
haryonokubuntu jakarta indonesia pls14:44
flaccid-zorglu_, i am relaxed?14:44
flaccid-there is no tone on the internet :)14:45
zorglu_cool :)14:45
Rioting_pacifistim using Kubuntu this channel is for kubuntu user support, as much as you hate flash im working though the links provided by the usefull members here, if i have a problem following those guides ill ask for more help14:45
flaccid-i don't get worked up by users14:45
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, but the support you are seeking is out of kubuntu's control, do you get that?14:45
shane__KDE 4.1 has anyone tryed it yet and how is it14:45
flaccid-shane__ pretty good for me, but still some bugs that i don't like14:46
shane__like what14:46
haryonotell me how to kubuntu jakarta indonesia pls14:46
Rioting_pacifistonly if the problem is with the flash.so version and not with a part of my system other than the .so14:46
flaccid-um mainly still problems with plasma, thats probably the main one for me. configs saving, glitches and dying14:46
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, correct. Kubuntu did not make the plugin, Adobe did14:47
shane__flaccid-: oh ok so im best to wait a few weeks and see if it gets better over some updates14:47
flaccid-shane__, you are welcome to give it a go now if you would like. kde3 and 4 can co-operate fine on the same system14:47
Rioting_pacifistyes i fully understand that the .so is made by adobe the same way the my restricted drivers are made by ati but it is possible that the problem isnt caused by those two14:48
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, provide a POC please and then the dev team can look into it.14:48
Rioting_pacifista POC?14:48
shane__flaccid-: ok ill give it a go then and see if i like lol if not i no where to find yah14:48
ubuntuhola14:48
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, Proof of Concept. In areas that are science driven, the people don't like guesses...14:49
flaccid-!kde4 | shane__14:49
ubottushane__: KDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde414:49
flaccid-you won't need me..14:49
Rioting_pacifistyeah well i came here to try and figure out the problem i dont kno whats causing it, if i knew what was causing it id be able to find a work around14:49
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, thats the problem. people like me and others have spent hours investigating these claims and its always the closed provider.14:50
shane__flaccid-: lol ahh thanks tells me to take it and if i have probs to bugger off ill give it a go it doesnt matter what isues it creats kubuntu support has been the best iv found sofar TY flaccid-14:51
ubuntuhello14:51
ubuntuhay alguien que sepa españole14:51
Rioting_pacifist!es14:51
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.14:51
zorglu_Rioting_pacifist: ok explain your problem. calmly and dont say opensource/closesource word :)14:51
flaccid-shane__, not sure what you mean, but i for you install, its as simple as selecting which one you want from login screen. the config files are totally separate...14:51
flaccid-zorglu_, do we have to start again on that?14:52
Rioting_pacifistlol, my problem is that flash used to work fine but it doesnt anymore, im going to find an old version of flash and see what happens14:52
zorglu_flaccid-: i am just helping a user with his trouble. no war14:52
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, lol so you never reverted back to the version Adobe made for gutsy... heh14:52
shane__flaccid-: ok so they dont work in tandum i need to instal a seperate system and then just choose on start witch i want14:52
zorglu_Rioting_pacifist: ok which version of flash works ?14:52
zorglu_Rioting_pacifist: .48 ?14:52
administrator#POWER+DSL+INTERNET+SPPRAHE14:53
flaccid-zorglu_, i spent hours benchmarking this once, so it would be good if people believed such users when the problem is the 3rd party provider14:53
Rioting_pacifistflaccid-: there was no version of flash for gutsy, you had to install it manually from thier website, ive tried that version but as you pointed out i dont know if thats the same version i had on gutsy14:53
zorglu_Rioting_pacifist: find out the version14:54
flaccid-shane__, nah. you just install it and then in the login screen you can select which session type you would like - kde3 or kde4 - no stuffing around14:54
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, omg thats totally incorrect14:54
shane__flaccid-: ok ty once again14:54
flaccid-!info flashplugin-nonfree gutsy | Rioting_pacifist14:54
ubotturioting_pacifist: flashplugin-nonfree (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 9.0.48.0.0ubuntu1~7.04.3 (gutsy), package size 15 kB, installed size 108 kB (Only available for i386)14:54
Rioting_pacifistzorglu_: im looking for a version of 9.48 but not sure where to find it14:54
* flaccid- rests his case once again14:54
Rioting_pacifistflaccid-: it didnt work14:54
flaccid-!doesntwork | Rioting_pacifist14:55
ubottuRioting_pacifist: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.14:55
flaccid-that tells us nothing14:55
administrator#HTTP://11921682.114:55
Rioting_pacifistadobe updated thier website shortly after 7.10 was realsed and the flash installer was useless, just look on the forums14:55
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, exactly.14:55
zorglu_mouaoua14:56
flaccid-so lets move on please14:56
zorglu_come on guys14:56
Rioting_pacifistyour the one asking me to install the 'gutsy version' of flash which without a time machine is imposible14:56
zorglu_Rioting_pacifist: 9.0.48 is available somewhere on abode website... but hidden and i dont remember where14:56
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, i never asked you to do that.14:56
zorglu_Rioting_pacifist: there is another way tho. it is to download the gutsy package and to extract only the .so14:57
administrator#BENUTZERNAME ROOTKENWORT 12345614:57
flaccid-!de | administrator14:57
ubottuadministrator: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de14:57
Rioting_pacifisti though the gutsy package just causes you to download the .so from the adobe website, for legal reasons they couldnt actually put the .so in the package14:58
llutzadministrator: stop spam14:58
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* flaccid- raises an eyebrow14:58
zorglu_Rioting_pacifist: i dunno. i dont remember...  /home/jerome/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so  is to be overwritten with the version you want. then you do "about:plugins" in firefox location bar to get the version of the flash run by firefox15:00
administrator#Arkor-Easy Boxxx A 4OO15:00
zorglu_ok administrator is a bot15:00
genii!ops | administrator (spam)15:00
ubottuadministrator (spam): Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!15:00
flaccid-danke15:01
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geniiMez: Thanks15:01
xjunioris there how to install Kubuntu in text mode (dialogs)?15:02
xjuniorI can't login on live cd.... the screen is completely black15:02
geniiThe alternate cd does a text-based install.15:02
jpdsxjunior: yes, use the alternate cd15:02
xjuniorwhere I download it?15:04
drurewxjunior: get it at the download page under :alternative* live cd15:05
Rioting_pacifistwhat package contains the restricted hardware manager, or whats the command line to launch it as i cant find a gui launcher15:05
jpdsxjunior: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/hardy/15:05
xjuniorwhen I try to enter on "Install", my screen looks like a LCD burning.... it's really freak! If I try to enter on "live", I got a black screen.... is there any way to fix it?15:07
zorglu_q. i installed gnome ubuntu, then did sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, then rebooted. it boots like kubuntu, login like kubuntu, BUT once logged in i got a gnome desktop.. i would like a kubuntu desktop, what should i do ?15:07
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, kdesudo jockey-kde15:07
Rioting_pacifist!find jockey-kde > Rioting_pacifist.15:08
xjuniorzorglu_: in the login screen, select a KDE session15:09
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, its a binary not a package so ubottu won't find it15:09
zorglu_xjunior: ok trying15:09
Rioting_pacifistwhat package is it in?15:10
jimmy51_if i have a variable, strFilename... and want to append .csv to the variable (in a bash script).... how do i do that?   strFilename=strFilename + ".csv" ?15:10
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, are you on hardy?15:10
Rioting_pacifistyeah15:11
flaccid-sorry i am wrong then in that cae15:11
flaccid-!info jockey-kde15:11
ubottujockey-kde (source: jockey): KDE user interface and desktop integration for driver management. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.3-0ubuntu8 (hardy), package size 6 kB, installed size 100 kB15:11
flaccid-but its default installed15:11
jimmy51_or maybe strFilename="${strFilename}.csv"   ?15:13
zorglu_ok now i got all kubuntu and all ubuntu :) so my menu are ultimatly bloated :) can i remove all the gnome packages ? apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop doesnt do it15:15
genii!purekde15:16
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »15:16
zorglu_genii: thanks lookin15:17
zorglu_genii: there is a typo in this page, in the ultra big apt-get, feel like fixing the page ?15:20
geniizorglu_: Bleh. Not until at least after a few more coffees!15:20
zorglu_E: Couldn't find package gconf-editorgdm <- the big apt-get of hardy non kde4 produce this error. just putting a space in between makes it ok15:21
zorglu_genii: hehe ok :)15:21
b4l7424rthe xine extra codecs in adept is greyed out, how do i install them?15:22
trappistb4l7424r: you probably have to enable the universe and multiverse repositories15:22
trappist!universe15:22
ubottuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories15:22
genii!medibuntu15:22
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org15:22
b4l7424rtrappist: i have enabled the universe and multiverse repos15:23
genii!medibuntu | b4l7424r15:24
ubottub4l7424r: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org15:24
geniib4l7424r: Add the medibuntu repositories for mp3 and other codecs15:24
Rioting_pacifistzorglu_: ive installed the same version i had on gutsy in the same browser(32 bit firefox) and i have the same problem, does this mean the problem is somehwere in the kubuntu system yet?15:24
trappistb4l7424r: try genii's suggestion :)15:24
dolfi reinstalled my amarok and my xine worked again i reinstalled the amarok-xine15:26
b4l7424rthanks genii, i just don't understand why i can't install the xine extra thru adept15:26
geniib4l7424r: Because most codecs are proprietary property and not included in the standard ubuntu repositories.15:28
trappistclosed-source, patent-encumbered, etc.15:29
b4l7424ri see15:30
Chrizzzhi, anyone an idea how i can set up commands, wich will be executed after i log in at my text shell/bash?15:31
b4l7424ris there a way to install all the medibuntu packages at once?15:32
flaccid-b4l7424r, no.15:32
llutzChrizzz: add them to ~/.profile15:32
Chrizzzthank you, it worked ...15:33
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dergringoHi. How do I sync Kontact (KDE3) with a funambol syncml server?16:04
frybyei used the destop effects menupoint in system on kde3 and have a window showing standard effect - extra effect and so on - but when i click on extra effect and APPLY - nothing happens..16:05
adz21cdergringo: kitchensync16:05
frybyenot sure if compiz engine is installed correctly.. how can I check please.. folks at compiz fusion channel not so hot on kubuntu - specific stuff..16:05
frybyedoes sbdy have a console command to install compiz-fusion for kde3???16:07
frybyeincluding the stuff like the cube if possible..?16:08
jussi01frybye: are you running 8.04?16:08
jussi01it should be installed...16:08
frybyeyes jussi0116:09
* DOOM_NX mpainw windows16:09
jussi01frybye: system - desktop effects16:09
geniifrybye: For the cube and so on you need the compizconfig-settings-manager  where you go and tell it what sort of interface to use in compiz, etc etc16:09
frybyehow do I start that c-set-man?16:10
geniifrybye: The packagename is as I have it above. To call it alt-f2   then: ccsm16:11
Rioting_pacifistmy flash problem was infact related to ATI proprietory drivers, and i cite the fact that radon drivers allow me to watch fullscreen video without any probelms as POC16:11
frybyeit says command canoot be executed...16:11
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, i still don't understand what you mean. where is your POC ?16:11
frybyehang on i uninstalled some stuff .. wait a min...16:12
Rioting_pacifistwell it proves that the problem isnt to do with flash16:12
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, hangon you get better performance with "radeon" and not "fglrx" ?16:12
Rioting_pacifistwell compiz doesnt work so i fell back to fluxbox but the flash issue is fixed16:12
Rioting_pacifistframbufferd TTYS seam to be offering me less problems than under ATI too16:13
frybyethe ccsm command will not execute???16:13
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, i would never expect compiz to work with flash. fluxbox and compiz have nothing to do with flash or drivers, so i don';t know what you are saying?16:13
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, X drivers do not work under other TTYs only the X session16:14
Rioting_pacifistflaccid-: radeon doesnt support compiz or atleast my xorg.conf with raedon doesnt, so i fell back to fluxbox that doesnt require composting16:14
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, like i said earlier, composite does not work with flash.16:15
flaccid-window manager has nothing to do with it.16:15
frybyeccsm was not installed... getting it now..16:15
dergringoadz21c: It looks like kitchensync (opensync) is not able to sync to a remote syncml host (funambol) using http. it just offers a syncml SERVER for mobile devices.16:15
Rioting_pacifistyes but it wasnt just composting, which does work with flash BTW, that wasnt working it was ATI drivers causing the problem16:16
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, prove it... and it doesn't matter both fglrx and flash are restricted so my claim still is correct -nothing to do with ubuntu. still i'd like to read your POC.16:16
Rioting_pacifistwell im not sure how the X drivers interact with TTYs but raedon and ' "UseFBDev"              "true"' is giving me less glitches, previously the entire third botom of the screen wasnt working16:17
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, and yes it depends what window manager using composite and what composite functions you are using. i know its easy to guess but there is much you don't know about16:17
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, yeah, just stop making assumptions and its all good. innocent until proven guilty..16:17
adz21cdergringo: i personally using opensync direct cos kitchensync screws for me16:18
frybyeok ... have got the cube working but it only has 2 sides.. how to get 4???16:18
Rioting_pacifisti never made an assumtions you just went off on one over flash my only assumtion was that it was probably my ATI and flash not playing nice, which is what it was16:18
Rioting_pacifistfrybye: change the number of desktops under compiz settings16:18
geniifrybye: What Rioting_pacifist said16:18
Rioting_pacifistbtw what does useFBDev change because the TTYS work alot better now, can i add that to xorg.conf when fglrx is in use?16:19
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, you are still incorrect16:19
frybyeI have the ccsm running but dont seem to be able to find the place to change number of desktops..16:19
dergringoadz21c: you are able to sync kontact with a remote syncml server?16:20
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, you do realise that you are still making assumptions...16:20
adz21ci use opensync with kdepim to my mobile phone which is syncml over bluetooth16:21
geniifrybye: They'll know in #compiz-fusion16:21
Rioting_pacifistfrybye: its at the top general options16:21
Rioting_pacifistflaccid-: im making working assumtions otherwise you never get anywhere, id just stare at my computer and go "umm something wrong", better to try and fix it one way than just go back to windows16:22
adz21cdergringo: i use opensync with kdepim to my mobile phone which is syncml over bluetooth16:22
yuriywhat package provides the defaultapplication kcm?16:23
makdaknifehi16:23
makdaknifetwo of my hardy systems have suddenly stopped being able to play DVDs.... I have libdvdcss and libdvdread stuff all installed... any tips?16:24
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, you need technical knowledge to make something other than an assumption...16:24
frybyeRioting_pacifist: In general options there is - general - commands - desktopsize - display settings - focus and raise behavoiur - key bindings - opacity settinghs.. find not place for set number of sides to cube or similar..?16:24
flaccid-assumptions can be detrimental16:25
hacker是不是中国的频道16:25
Rioting_pacifistdesktopsize16:25
frybyeah i see.. called size.. sorry...16:25
dergringoadz21c: yes that is possible...16:25
Rioting_pacifistflaccid-: aslong as you drop your assumtion when faced with contradictory evidence they're not16:25
Rioting_pacifistlike say assuming flash is the cause of all problems and cant be fix,16:25
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, i am yet to see any evidence from you , just guesses16:26
flaccid-um no16:26
flaccid-!ops16:26
ubottuHelp! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!16:26
frybyenw i have 4 sides to the cube but only two windows at bottom right of screen..?16:26
Mezwhy the ops call ?16:27
geniiflaccid-: What was that about?16:27
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist is starting this flash roundabout again16:27
Rioting_pacifistclick on it, the desktop pagers doesnt work well, there is something called compiz-desktop pager that works *a bit* better16:27
flaccid-i guess i should ignore16:27
geniiBah thats not op-worthy16:27
flaccid-i havnt been told what is op worth and what is not :)16:27
makdaknifehmm nobody wanna help me out with my DVD issues?16:27
Mezflaccid, just because you disagree with someone - doesnt need an ops call16:28
Rioting_pacifistflaccid-: talking about flash isnt a crime round here16:28
flaccid-Mez, link me so i can understand :)16:28
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, there is no crime around here16:28
Mezflaccid, link you to WHAT?16:28
Mezmakdaknife, anything which disrupts the channel in a manner which needs to be dealt with immediately (flooding, trolling, spammers, etc etc)16:29
flaccid-Mez, well Rioting_pacifist has been going on about this for hours. i thought that a user repeating for hours would worthy an op call. id like to know what does worthy an op call ?16:29
Mezor action against the CoC16:29
frybyeI clicked on the virt. workspaces thing at bottom right and selected 4 workspaces but it did not change..?16:29
Rioting_pacifistfrybye: when you install the compiz-pager you need to add it to the desktop bar as it wont replace the kwin one (btw it wont play nice with kwin)16:29
frybyecompiz-pager????16:29
flaccid-Mez, ok i'll ignore in the future, thanks.16:30
makdaknifeMez: sorry? I was just looking for some help16:30
Rioting_pacifistflaccid-: just like your mummy said if youve got nothing usefull to say STFU16:30
JucatoRioting_pacifist: please watch the language16:30
frybyeRioting - please explain - what is the compiz-pager - how to use/add it to the desktop bar...?16:30
flaccid-Mez, how about that ^ should i just accept it?16:31
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, how about you stfu16:31
Mez!language16:31
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:31
Jucatoflaccid-: you shouldn't fight back16:31
Rioting_pacifistfrybye the kde pager doesnt working with compiz, you need to search the repos i forget the name of the program but its something like compiz-pager16:31
flaccid-Jucato, what should i do ?16:31
MezRioting_pacifist, flaccid-  I dont want any language in here.16:31
frybyeso do I have to hold the coats for two of you guys to step outside or what.. heheh16:31
flaccid-i didn't know an acronym was bad language :)16:32
Jucatoflaccid-: I thought you already put him on ignore...16:32
geniifrybye: Alternately what I tend to do is just remove the pager after compiz starts, then re-add it, after that it works fine16:32
flaccid-Jucato, hard to ignore when it fills my screen :(16:32
Rioting_pacifistyeah even fsck can get you warned if you use it in an offensive manner16:32
MezRioting_pacifist, you are welcome to file a bug if you believe there is an issue with flash, however, at the moment, it dont seems that there is anyone here able to help you16:32
MezRioting_pacifist, indeed.16:32
Mezflaccid-, "stfu" - work out what the "f" in it means16:33
Mezanyway, I'd like people to calm down.16:33
flaccid-Mez, no worries16:33
Mezflaccid-, look up the /silence command16:33
MezRioting_pacifist, please, feel free to go report a bug16:33
flaccid-its just not mentioned explicitly in the CoC thats all16:33
Rioting_pacifistMez: i already found a work around i dont think ubuntu devs can do anything about it, but if somebody complains about flash full screen the workaround is to use the free drivers16:33
flaccid-lol16:34
flaccid-what about users that need 3D ?16:34
MezRioting_pacifist, as I've said - feel free to report a bug. Or there's a howto section on the forums16:34
Rioting_pacifistflaccid-:  well then they cant use flash full screen16:34
Mezflaccid-, by responding, you're only creating more chance for this to get ugly. So - a factoid that I havent used in a while16:34
Mez!stop | Rioting_pacifist flaccid-16:35
ubottuRioting_pacifist flaccid-: NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken.16:35
chakiehas anyone noticed that their ipods aren't automatically mounted anymore on hardy?16:35
chakiemine worked fine for a year or so and recently after som update it just won't get mounted anymore (also, amarok nuked the database on it so i had to factory reset it)16:36
haryonoWhy my hardiisk sound noisy when I start and the computer hang during the operation?16:36
Rioting_pacifistcompiz launches itself as soon as kde starts, how do i stop this? i looked in /usr/share/autostart and ~./kde/autostart but didnt see anything16:37
geniiharyono: PErhaps the computer is hanging because the sound of the hard drive is it's indication of physical failure16:37
Mezharyono, I'd guess an issue with the HDD16:37
haryonohow to fix the problem or identifying its failure?16:38
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, are your sessions turned on?16:38
frybyehmmm have it all working nice - thanx to all who helped.. free beer waiting in berlin...16:39
Rioting_pacifistthier turned on but with compiz and kde-window-deco excluded, i cant get into kde to properly turn them off tho16:39
Rioting_pacifistwill deleteing everything in sessions mean the next session is blank?16:40
MezRioting_pacifist, can you get to a console when it's running?16:40
Mezif so - just do kwin --replace &16:40
Mezand then you can get in to turn them off16:40
geniiharyono: If you have some working computer with a cd burner I would suggest to download and make the Ultimate Boot CD which can do many diagnostics16:40
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, i think you need to turn off compiz with kwin as above then logout then on login it will be off16:41
Rioting_pacifisti get a white screen of death so i cant do anything in kwin, actually nvm i can always change to fglrx to do it, if i keep two xorg.confs lying around i should be ok16:42
haryonoi have no other computer at home this is the only computer i use now16:43
MezRioting_pacifist, oh the fun of proprietary hardware eh?16:43
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, there are bugs on launchpad with that behaviour across a few different drivers16:43
Rioting_pacifistwhat the white screen of death or the f***** thing16:44
geniiharyono: From the livecd you could try to fsck the drive in question16:45
haryonowhat kind of live cd i must use?16:45
flaccid-Rioting_pacifist, you could search launchpad. its mainly with the restricted drivers16:46
geniiharyono: Some linux one16:46
geniiharyono: Since fsck is common to all linux16:46
haryonocan i use ubuntu cd for fixing?16:47
geniiharyono: For booting to cd and trying to determine the problem, yes. For fixing, perhaps if it is at all possible16:48
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kNewbieHallo. Ich will jetzt richtig mit kubuntu anfangen. Habe jetzt versehentlich dapper installiert. Bin etwas verwirrt. Welche Version ist jetzt die aktuellste, stabilste und möglichst LTS?16:52
Rioting_pacifistharyono:  if its a hardware failure your best bet is to get a new drive backeverything up to it and use the old one for non critical things (/tmp, swap, windows, etc)16:53
Rioting_pacifist!de16:53
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de16:53
kNewbieoops not the german room.. *change*16:54
shadowhywinddoes anyone know of a console email program that can excute a console command when it recieves an email(filter)?16:56
llutzshadowhywind: procmail16:57
shadowhywindthanks, will look into that one16:57
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roberto_ho17:03
roberto_hi17:03
roberto_how i restore my xorg?17:04
drifrestore?17:04
engineersudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg17:04
drifah17:04
roberto_how i put down kdm?17:05
Jucatosudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop17:06
RurouniJonesHowdy all, does anyone know what Character set anthy uses when you switch to Japanese input? It doesn't appears to be UTF-817:08
roberto_how i rename a file?17:08
geniiroberto_:  mv oldname newname17:09
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roberto_i restore my xorg, but when i try to login, my screen is white17:11
frybyei just installed samba server and a gui that is suppose to control it - the latter I cant find?17:12
engineerkonqueror17:12
engineeroh, to setup it?17:12
geniifrybye: Would that gui thing be called SWAT ?17:12
frybyeah dear oh dear I could do with sbdy here who knwos thier stuff..17:12
frybyeperhaps - my terrible memory..17:12
engineer!mirrors17:13
ubottuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php17:13
frybyegeni.. how can I search for an appl on the system - in kde4 i know but i am in kde317:13
roberto_i restore my xorg, but when i try to login, my screen stay white17:13
frybyehang on i will go and look in adept what I have..17:13
RiotingPacifistroberto_: what driver do you have in xorg.conf?17:14
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frybyegenii: it was    system-config-samba17:14
roberto_"useFBdev"17:15
roberto_this is ok?17:16
geniifrybye: a minute or so please17:16
frybyegenii:  k - np17:16
geniifrybye: Kmenu...System...Samba17:17
roberto_RiotingPacifist:identifier  "configured Video Device -- option useFBdev true17:17
frybyeyeah i found that but apparently nothing happens...17:17
roberto_RiotingPacifist: is this ok?17:18
geniifrybye: When nothing happens it's usually a good thing.17:18
frybyedespite it being linux here - eh - perhaps I should re-boot...17:18
geniifrybye: No reboot should be neccesary17:19
frybyegenii: good  c u in a min17:19
frybyeyeah but you know "should..." heheh17:19
genii<sigh> this utter fascination with rebooting17:19
RiotingPacifistroberto_: im not sure, do you have compiz ?17:19
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frybyeok then - what do you sugest doing when smthing just sits there and does not react.. it is visible in the gui but inactive.. and has just been installed.. a re-boot seems the only logical process now or..?17:20
geniifrybye: Make sure the directory you are sharing exists. What you mean by "visible but inactive"17:20
frybyewhen i click on the entry in the gui-menu for samba nothing apparently happens - no window opens - nothing too be seen..17:21
frybyeI was hoping for this gui- samba-config-thing...17:21
frybyeas a newbie I dont know enough to do it -on my own- with the consule..17:22
geniifrybye: When you run it from the System...Samba it should prompt for password. After that you use it to declare shares and so on. It's not some browser for sambe, just a configuration tool.17:22
frybyeso i gave to use the consule - despite the fact that in adept it spec said that it was a gui to use for samba dir settings etc..??17:23
frybyehang on...17:24
geniifrybye: The directories to share there are on the box you are using. It will write the samba configuration file to reflect this, and so than after this you go on a wondows machine on the network and are able to gain access to those shares.17:25
geniiBah typos17:25
frybyegenii: in the adept if says - system-config-samba - installier - keine änderung GUI for managing samba shares and users..? but where is it now...?17:26
frybyee e installiert - ie is installed.. I am on a German kubuntu...17:26
geniifrybye:  "system-config-samba" = KButton... System... Samba17:27
frybyehang on - let me submit to my -reboot- fettish - yes yes that is where i go and click on it and n o t h i n g happens.. so i am gonna re-boot back in a min+17:27
engineercan someone paste their sources.list? just the normal repositories17:27
engineer!pastebin17:28
ubottupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)17:28
geniiPerhaps I'm lacking in communiction skills or something.17:30
grendal_primehey guys i use to be able to toggle through running apps with my alt tab...its gone (all of the sudden)  where can i adjust that?17:30
frybyere:17:31
frybyehmm still nothing happens.. oh dear...17:32
geniifrybye: What more exactly are you trying to achieve as some end-goal in this exercise? It may be easier to approach it from this way.17:33
Odd-rationalegrendal_prime: try koncontrol --> regional and acc. --> keybaord17:34
frybyeyeah - trying to set up lan access between my comp2 here and comp1 which is 1 m to the left of this one via a router/home network,,,17:35
geniifrybye: And this other computer is some Windows based thing?17:35
frybyethere is a set of folders on the other box (64x home vista..) which I need access too.. yes vista..17:35
frybyei need it for work...17:36
frybyefinanced by an patient care association that I do some stuff for..17:36
frybyepartly at least...17:36
frybyethe os was paid for by them - put it that way..17:36
geniifrybye: For just getting files from a Windows box, you don't even need samba. Because the samba client is already on your linux machine by default. All you need to do is just install smb4k and then use that to browse to your Vista box17:37
Pennycookfrybye: Typing "smb:" into Konqueror should bring up the accessible samba shares.17:37
frybyeand I am a bit nervous cos until i ahve the net access I cant creat an image of this box - should anyhting happen..17:37
geniiPennycook: No, it is broken.17:37
frybyeI use firefox - can I do that..17:37
geniifrybye: Not in firefox.17:37
frybyehang on - what first - smb4k install and then command smb in konq.. right??17:38
geniifrybe: You *should* normally be able to do it from in Konqueror or in Dolphin with the smb://   prefix, but it does not work currently without installing additionally the smbfs package17:38
* genii sighs17:39
geniifrybye: smb4k is it's own network browser17:40
frybyeok have installed smb4k - where do I find it...?17:41
geniifrybye: Kbutton Utilities smb4k17:41
frybyeah ha in konk...17:42
frybyeoh - hang on..17:42
frybyeok I see comp1 - and a lot of stuff - with dollar signs in it - and also Public but when i click on Pulic it says17:44
frybyemount error 2 = No such file or directory17:44
frybyeRefer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)17:44
NyadHi, I need to install libgtk the 32bit version, but I have a 64bit kubuntu and I can only find it for 64bits, is there a 32bit GTK lib because I want to compile a 32bit program that uses GTK17:44
frybyegenii: what do i have to do to "mount cifs?"17:46
frybyehmm net-split or..?17:46
engineerdefinitly or17:46
frybyegenii: you still there...?17:47
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RurouniJonesDoes anyone know what Character set anthy uses when you switch to Japanese input? It doesn't appears to be UTF-8 because when I enter it into a web browser it gets mangled (Yes the web-app is UTF-8 and so is the database)17:49
geniifrybye: Work needed me. Back now17:50
frybyeok - so now I can see the stuff on the comp1 but it is giveing a fault report about mounting cifs??17:50
frybyedont work too hard there - we need you heheheh17:51
NyadHi, I need to install libgtk the 32bit version, but I have a 64bit kubuntu and I can only find it for 64bits, is there a 32bit GTK lib because I want to compile a 32bit program that uses GTK17:51
geniifrybye: When it says dir does not exist, likely it's some directory you wrote into that gui configuration tool which does not exist.17:51
frybyeno it is the Public folder on the other puter - but the smb4k does not allow me to access it - see fault report above..17:52
adz21cNyad: search for ia3217:52
frybyegenii: here -17:52
frybyemount error 2 = No such file or directory17:52
frybye[18:44] <frybye> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)17:52
adz21cNyad: i think they have dev packages with them17:52
* genii headdesks17:53
frybyethis smb4k is a/the config tool .. eh ..17:53
frybyegenii:  sorry didnt understand - headdesk???17:54
plyo17:54
plkto polak?17:54
frybyenie mal - anglieskiego...17:54
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llutzis there a (perl-)package containing HTML::TableContentParser ?17:54
frybyepar angielskiego proze...17:54
frybyeplese speak english...17:54
plok17:55
plWho is polish?17:55
frybyeprobably wrong channel...here engl. language17:55
frybyegenii: what to do now???17:55
Nyadadz21c: sudo apt-cache search gtk ia32       doesn't really bring up anything useful17:56
Pennycook!polish | pl17:56
ubottupl: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl17:56
frybyegenii: I have just removed that other thing...17:57
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DaSkreechI can't get krita to run17:59
DaSkreechRun 'kde-config --path services' to see which directories were searched, assuming kde startup had the same environment as your current shell.18:00
DaSkreechI get that error message18:00
DaSkreechWhich gives me /home/ubuntu/.kde/share/services/:/usr/share/services/:/rofs/usr/share/services/18:00
frybyegenii: I have had a look at man mount.cifs - there are about 40+ pages of stuff I dont undersand 1% of...18:02
Rioting_pacifistim getting "(If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)" from glxinfo how do i set libgl_debug?18:02
frybyeRioting_pacifist: can you give me a tip how to get access to this directory on ther other machin in Smb4K18:03
Rioting_pacifistsorry i never used smb, so no idea18:04
frybyegenii: <--- seems to have been lost in the netsplit...18:04
frybyeok Rioting_pacifist np18:04
frybyep yeah but not your p heheh18:04
frybyewho else knows how to use smb4k???18:05
Rioting_pacifistecho..co...co...co...co18:05
moshehi, i've noticed that firefox doesn't load page components suddenly and strace -p <firefoxpid> showed a lot of "EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)" - then i tried fsck and it said "fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=e4ead2df-71d4-4319-b4a8-fa4a3b3dff13'" - this is the identifier used by default installation in kernel boot line in /boot/grub/menu.lst - what should i do? thanks18:06
llutzmoshe: use partition-name not UUID for fsck18:08
moshellutz: i didn't specify anything in command line it was taken by defualt18:08
moshedefault18:08
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moshellutz: the line in grub is: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-18-generic root=UUID=e4ead2df-71d4-4319-b4a8-fa4a3b3dff13 ro quiet splash18:11
DaSkreechkoffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Check your installation (did you install KOffice in a different prefix than KDE, without adding the prefix to /etc/kderc ?)18:11
mosheis that how it's suppose to be or should i change it to something else?18:11
llutzmoshe: waht does "blkid|grep dff13" say?18:12
moshesays: /dev/sda1: UUID="e4ead2df-71d4-4319-b4a8-fa4a3b3dff13" TYPE="ext3"18:12
mosheoh maybe it didn't find because i wasn't in root shell18:13
mosheso UUID is fine18:13
mosheif i run fsck on mounted volume, but do not fix anything, is it still dangerous?18:14
llutzmoshe: try to avoid that18:15
moshek, gonna reboot into single user mode..18:15
moshethanks for the help18:15
llutzmoshe: sudo touch /forcefsck  if sda1 is your /18:16
llutzmoshe: then it will be checked after next reboot18:16
grendal_primeOdd-rationale: ya werid i dont see a line for alt+tab..everything else in there but not that??18:17
moshellutz: would you happen to know what this refers to - memory or disk: read(3, 0x8073bec, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)18:18
Odd-rationalegrendal_prime: well. you will have to look for the switch window thing and set it to alt+tab...18:18
grendal_primeya18:19
grendal_primedoing that now18:19
moshek rebooting18:19
haryonoCan i fix my hdd trouble by adding memory to 512 ?18:21
DaSkreechkoffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: kritapart.desktop not found.18:21
haryononow is only 25618:21
DaSkreechharyono: What hdd trouble?18:22
haryononoisy when start and hang in the way18:22
DaSkreechharyono: Possibly but I would still look into a new hard drive over the longer term18:22
jhutchins_wkllutz: see also shutdown -Fr18:23
haryonoi turn off computer many time manually because its hang .Is ist problem?18:23
thiyagudoes anyone know where I can find a good download for java vm for version 7.04?18:24
haryonomanually by unplug power cable from the socket is it ok18:24
jhutchins_wkharyono: It could be bad blocks on the hard drive, or it could be a RAM problem.  You should be able to run in 256k, provided you don't open a lot of GUI stuff.18:24
jhutchins_wk!java18:24
ubottuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre or sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu !Dapper18:24
thiyagugreat! thx18:25
haryonoWhat is GUI?18:25
jhutchins_wkharyono: Hope you have good backups.18:25
RurouniJonesharyono: Graphical User Interface18:25
haryonohow to back ups?18:25
haryonoim newbie18:26
RurouniJonesWhat is your native language?18:26
haryonoWhat is the Icons in KDE Manual?18:26
haryonoGUI is18:26
RurouniJonesharyono: Where are you from? What language do you speak18:26
haryonoIndones18:27
RurouniJones!id | haryono18:28
ubottuharyono: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia18:28
DaSkreechRurouniJones: He's probably there already :)18:28
DaSkreechit's a very quiet chan18:28
RurouniJonesCan't hurt to check18:28
pim_right now it is18:28
pim_not always18:28
angasule_I think it's the middle of the night over there18:28
DaSkreechhi pim_18:28
pim_hi18:29
angasule_what's up with angasule? :/18:29
angasule_silly nickname won't get dropped18:29
DaSkreechangasule_: Do you own the name?18:29
angasule_yeah, I'm a bit puzzled, it doesn't usually take this long for it to get dropped18:30
angasule_take that, sucker18:31
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angasule:D18:31
thewhitepelicandoes anyone use kde4.1 beta 1?18:32
angasuleI do18:32
angasulethewhitepelican: #kubuntu-kde4 :)18:32
tomcbehi18:33
DaSkreech!ghost | angasule18:33
ubottuangasule: On IRC, if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST <username> <password>18:33
tomcbeanyone for frndship18:33
thewhitepelicansure, why not?18:33
DaSkreech!myspace18:34
ubottuFactoid myspace not found18:34
DaSkreechdrat18:34
angasuleDaSkreech: as you can see, I ghosted it already, usually it takes only a minute or two, so I don't bother18:35
jhutchins_wkangasule: Actually, we don't see stuff that has a leading "/", only you see that.18:36
DaSkreechReally?18:36
DaSkreechIf I don't ghost mine it takes 40 minutes to drop18:36
jhutchins_wk(The "take that, sucker" line above)18:36
angasulemight be the particular server?18:36
angasulejhutchins_wk: but you could see angasule's quit message, which said 'nick collision from services'18:37
jhutchins_wkangasule: If I didn't filter join/part messages I wouldn't be able to read this channel.18:39
stdinjhutchins_wk: you should see #ubuntu18:39
DaSkreechjhutchins_wk: try #kde18:41
DaSkreechthat's got to be the most verbose quiet channel in history18:41
andrei6200Random Fortune: Convention organizer to Linus Torvalds: "You might like to come with us  to some licensed[1] place, and have some pizza."  Linus: "Oh, I did not know that you needed a license to eat pizza".  [1] Licenced - refers in Australia to a restaurant which has government  licence to sell liquor. -- Linus at a talk at the Melbourne University18:42
Rioting_pacifist!radeon18:43
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto18:43
Rioting_pacifist!dri18:43
ubottudri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.18:43
stdinandrei6200: don't do that18:43
Rioting_pacifistare there any howtos for non binary drivers18:44
andrei6200stdin: just trying out stuff18:44
DaSkreechapt-tttttttttttttttinsall?18:44
andrei6200now i know18:44
DaSkreechbah18:44
DaSkreechdog18:45
miglohi all! I've upgraded to kubuntu 8.04 and have now no sound :-/  does someone have had a similar problem and a possible solution for that  :-)18:46
Rioting_pacifistmiglo: was it working before hardy?18:46
migloRioting_pacifist yes, very well18:47
migloI've today removed all the other kernel versions but have still no sound18:47
Rioting_pacifistcheck its not muted (i know it sounds stupid but its always worth a shot) by turning EVERY channel to max in amixer18:47
Rioting_pacifist*alsamixer18:47
angasuledoesn't 8.04 use pulseaudio?18:48
__Adam__hello - i cant get my microphone to work18:48
Rioting_pacifistnot on kubuntu18:48
DaSkreechdunno never been clear on if Kubuntu uses it18:48
miglochecked already all possibilities using alsamixer wihout any success  :-(18:48
__Adam__thats a lie18:48
__Adam__i can now get it to work but its really quiet18:49
Rioting_pacifistin that case unless somebody here knows about sounds issues id recomend #alsa, it may be that your card has been misdetected in the upgrade18:49
migloRioting_pacifist thanks18:50
Rioting_pacifistman those #alsa guys are gunna start hating me soon18:50
DaSkreechRioting_pacifist: buy them kookies18:51
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Rioting_pacifist__Adam__: try turning everything up to max in kmix, even obscure settings18:51
__Adam__they are all up18:51
__Adam__icuding the mic boost :s18:51
Rioting_pacifisti think ill jsut pass the blame on to whoever sent me there when i had problems, its one of the few backend channels that offer really good support, often better than the support found here, depends whos about ofc18:52
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DaSkreechRioting_pacifist: They need to export it18:52
DaSkreechget someone to maintain a Wiki or an FAQ18:53
miglosolved it using KMix  :-)18:53
Rioting_pacifistso do we tbh, forums are hit and miss and the wiki aint so hot for anything after fiesty18:53
Rioting_pacifistabscure setting?18:54
DaSkreechmiglo: what was the problem?18:54
Rioting_pacifist*obscure18:54
DaSkreech<troll mode> Feisty was the last one worth installing </troll mode>18:54
__Adam__all up :s18:55
Rioting_pacifist<troll><b>Since feisty all the users are noobs</b></troll>18:55
pim_Rioting_pacifist maybe you should switch to gentoo or something like that :p18:56
Rioting_pacifist__Adam__: anything other than volume labels is over my head, try #alsa18:56
__Adam__kk....18:56
migloKMix offers some buttons (looking like lamps/LED's) for tunrning the sound on and off. I've clicked around on all the buttons and additionally pulled every slider to the maximum18:58
Rioting_pacifistmeh gentoo users are noobs with thier ebiulds <actually saw somebody say that once, think it was a slackware user. I do think the wiki could do with some major work though, might start writting my experiences in it even if i dont know much18:58
miglo... until I got some sound18:59
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migloI'm wondering why alsamixer does not have this possibility19:01
Rioting_pacifisti always though alsamixer was more verbose than kmix, perhaps ill tell everybody to use kmix in future thx19:01
zippahcan someone halp me on an install?19:06
zippah./msg me please if you can19:06
mefisto__what are you installing zippah?19:06
zippahthe latest iso from ubuntu19:07
zippahit's stalling on a desktop background and a nouse pointer that won't move19:08
miglois it possible to mute a certain channel using alsamixer? - didn't found a way until now19:08
drurewmiglo: terminal ?19:08
DaSkreechzippah: on boot up?19:09
Rioting_pacifistzippah: its better if people dont message as there may be collective input here, how much ram do you have19:09
mefisto__miglo: press M to mute. (? key gives you a help screen for using alsamixer)19:09
Rioting_pacifistm19:09
miglocool - have leared again something new :-)  thanks a lot19:11
DaSkreechmiglo: hang out here19:11
DaSkreechsomething new comes up everyday19:11
pim_I started a game which set a certain resolution but it wasn't changed back19:12
pim_How can I reset this?19:12
zippahi'm not sure how much ram this box has but it was running win2k that it came with a while gback19:12
zippahi'm trying the install in the lower res mode and it's still hanging on the desktop background w/mouse pointer not moving19:13
mefisto__pim_: try this: alt-F2, type krandrtray, then try changing screen size with the icon in the tray19:13
pim_Thanks mefisto_19:13
zippahbut while it appears stalled, the cd keeps spinning19:15
miglopim_ hm, I remember that it is also possible to change the resolution with "ctrl"+"alt"+"+/-"19:16
DaSkreechzippah: I'll assume you are not on that box now?19:16
mefisto__miglo: it was possible to do it that way, but doesn't seem to work any more for me19:16
miglothe "plus" and "minus" sign at the right site of the keyboard19:17
migloit still works for me19:17
DaSkreechmiglo: They disabled that for bulletproof X I think19:18
Flare183!netsplit19:23
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit19:23
zippahnow i have a white rectangle with a curser over the desktop and the curser does not move19:24
TimSSSJ_GZ: kdedaily broke for me :(19:28
TimSI get to the login, I can update but logging in just gives a blank screen19:29
PhoenixGIHello all19:30
TimSSSJ_GZ: It just goes grey :(19:30
Lupus-SLEHello19:34
Lupus-SLEI've got some .mkv files here which I'm having a problem playing19:34
Lupus-SLEIn mplayer everythings fine and dandy but the audio won't work in kaffeine19:34
Lupus-SLEI understand MKV is a container format but I don't know what format it actually contains :/19:35
SSJ_GZTimS: Try killing plasma, wiping your plasmarc and plasma-appletsrc and restarting it.19:37
TimSHow do I do that?19:37
voicihi, i have an external monitor attached to my notebook. when i start a video in kaffeine, it shows up on the notebook screen but not on the external monitor. the video stays just black. how would i fix this? tnx19:37
TimSSomething I can do from the update terminal?19:38
DaSkreechLupus-SLE: install kubuntu-restricted-extras19:38
SSJ_GZTimS: Yep - from the update terminal, do remove ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma*19:38
DaSkreech!kde419:38
ubottuKDE 4.0.4 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.4.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde419:38
Lupus-SLEDaSkreech: I did19:38
Lupus-SLEMany many moons ago19:38
TimSCheers SSJ_GZ =]19:38
DaSkreechLupus-SLE: Ah Linux needs a Gspot19:38
SSJ_GZTimS: np - let me know if it works :)19:38
Lupus-SLEDaSkreech: It would help more to know the audio codec19:39
Lupus-SLEMplayer gaves me this19:39
DaSkreech!paste19:39
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)19:39
zippahnow the creen just went black19:39
Lupus-SLEDaSkreech: I know... I've heard of it19:39
DaSkreechLupus-SLE: Preemptive education :)19:39
DaSkreechbefore the full output of a mplayer output gets dumped in the chan19:40
DaSkreechzippah: press alt+ctrl+f119:40
Lupus-SLEI was gonna post 2 lines ¬_¬19:40
Lupus-SLEhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/19419/19:40
Lupus-SLEGo19:40
voicihi, i have an external monitor attached to my notebook. when i start a video in kaffeine, it shows up on the notebook screen but not on the external monitor. the video stays just black. how would i fix this? tnx19:40
DaSkreechLupus-SLE: sorry as this makes me I don't live in your head and so wasn't informed about that :)19:41
DaSkreechLupus-SLE: Looks like libxine1-ffmpeg should be good enough19:41
Lupus-SLEDaSkreech: I would think so too19:42
Lupus-SLEExcept for the fact that's already installed19:42
Lupus-SLEAlong with ffmpeg19:42
Rioting_pacifistwhat directories/ scripts affect autostart?19:42
DaSkreech!autostart19:43
ubottuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory. For a complete guide, see http://jucato.org/kde/kde-autostart.html19:43
Lupus-SLEDaSkreech: It's really taxing me19:43
pimHey I'm now operating from command line, I'd like to know how I can kill a process from it, since in my gui an app has crashed.19:44
DaSkreechpim: Which app19:44
Lupus-SLEIt works dandy in mplayer but I can't understand what mplayer has that xine doesn't.19:44
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pimDaSkreech Stronghold Legends with wine19:44
DaSkreechLupus-SLE: Libmplayer? :)19:44
ActionParsniphey all19:44
ActionParsnipwhen i edit files with gedit I alway get a <filename>~ file as well as the one I editted. Is it possible to not have these created?19:44
DaSkreechpim: Ugh might have to kill wine19:44
DaSkreechpim: killall wine19:44
pimok thanks19:45
DaSkreechActionParsnip: #ubuntu ?19:45
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pimDaSkreech it was no good, it said no app killed19:45
pimno process killed19:45
mefisto__ActionParsnip: you can switch off making backups in kwrite's options, probably similar in gedit19:46
zippahmy ubuntu install is now stalled on a screen that has the desktop background and a "install" popup window and a curser.  this is the worst install of linux i've ever seen, wtf19:46
ActionParsnipmefisto__: yeah found it bro19:46
DaSkreechpim: ps aux | grep wine19:46
ActionParsnipDaSkreech: indeed19:46
DaSkreechActionParsnip: gnome apps are unlikely to be installed by most folks in this chan and Gnome stuff is also notorious amongst KDE fanatics for not having any options so they wouldn't even hazard a guess :)19:47
ActionParsnipDaSkreech: usually they have a similar api, I find #Kubuntu to house the smarter peeps19:48
ActionParsnipDaSkreech: personal experience talking here19:48
DaSkreechActionParsnip: Yes I understand But you are talking about an option :) KDE guys wil not step into the world of Gnome Options. It's one of the big diffrentiators19:49
sensaeWell maybe this channel can help me. My BIOS sees both my drives but the Ubuntu server disc only sees one.19:49
dj18881ramhi19:49
DaSkreechHaving said that I should think that gedit would allow you to turn it off19:49
dj18881ramalguien de venezuela19:50
ActionParsnipDaSkreech: yeah it does. its REALLY annoying19:50
DaSkreechsensae: sure one isn't being seen as /dev/hd and another as /dev/sd ?19:50
DaSkreeches19:50
DaSkreech!es19:50
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:50
sensaeDaSkreech: Well yes. One's PATA and one's SATA19:50
paulsome girls heer..or only ubuntu boys?19:50
paulheer19:50
costa58nessuno italiano19:50
paulhere19:50
DaSkreech!it19:50
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!19:50
pauland for romanian?19:50
costa58grazie19:51
DaSkreech!romania19:51
ubottuDaca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro19:51
paulthanks19:51
ActionParsnipdoes anyone use the no-ip duc client?19:51
shadowhywindhay all a werid and random question, everytime i try to run a program in the background using & , and check it with jobs it says that the program is stopped. anyway to make programs continue running but be in the background?19:51
sensaeDaSkreech: Why would that interfere with the installer seeing them?19:52
DaSkreechsensae: Dunno just the first thing that came to my mind19:52
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pim_Hm rebooting helped19:52
llutzjhutchins_wk: sorry, was busy. according "shutdown -F" see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/7413919:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 74139 in upstart "shutdown missing -F (force fsck) option" [Low,Invalid]19:54
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Rioting_pacifistive checked all off KDEs autostarts and compiz isnt there but it still starts with kde :S any ideas19:56
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mefisto__Rioting_pacifist: might be just restoring your last session19:58
Rioting_pacifistmefisto__: ive disabled session management19:58
Rioting_pacifistnvm found it its set itself as the defailt window manager20:00
mefisto__where did you find that, Rioting_pacifist?20:01
Rioting_pacifisttyped env into konsole20:01
caryjebusodd...20:08
caryjebusmy thermal wont open20:08
pteague_workhow do i make firefox my default browser in kde?20:11
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emilsedghpteague_work: System Settings->Default Applications20:12
DJG9282Hi guys...i was playing with the adminstrator mode in the user management...and i created a new person and changed mine to a different name and user folder and now when i try to load it says it cant find some config file and that i must check my installation...any suggestions? does this mean i have to reinstall?20:12
DJG9282...20:16
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DaSkreechDJG9282: Probably not just need to sort out your user accounts20:17
DJG9282yeah but i cannot get into root mode anymore20:18
DJG9282because i changed it20:18
DaSkreechyou changed root mode?20:19
DJG9282what i did20:19
DJG9282is i went into the main root account20:19
DJG9282because what i wanted to do20:19
DJG9282was make a separate "internet" account for myself20:19
DJG9282and not surf under the root account20:19
DaSkreechThe "main" root account ?20:19
DaSkreechYou mean your first user?20:20
DJG9282yes first user20:20
DaSkreechok20:20
DJG9282so i went in there20:20
DaSkreechright20:20
DJG9282and i switched it all up20:20
DaSkreechwhy?20:20
DJG9282i changed the directories20:20
DJG9282well the reason why i changed the directories was so i could still use the same folders under a new account name20:21
DJG9282unfortunately...when i tried to get into the first user account20:21
DJG9282it said "no way"20:21
DaSkreechDJG9282: Riiight :-)20:21
DaSkreechcan you get into the new account?20:21
DJG9282nope20:21
DJG9282i am on my wife's right now20:22
DaSkreechok20:22
DaSkreechdoes she have admin rights?20:22
JuJuBeeI can't seem to install the flash player/plugin for Firefox.  Any suggestions? Kubuntu 8.04 Kde 420:23
DJG9282nope...i didn't give it to her because i was afraid she'd ruin the system hehe whoops20:23
pteague_workis there somewhere i can look to see what user apps get started at boot?20:23
DaSkreechJuJuBee: install flashpugin-nonfree20:23
DJG9282going to have to fresh install huh?20:24
DaSkreechDJG9282: Do you have a live CD?20:24
DJG9282yes i do20:24
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JuJuBeeI tried.20:24
DaSkreechJuJuBee: And?20:24
DaSkreechDJG9282: actually you can just reboot into maintenance mode and fix it20:25
DaSkreechDJG9282: But lets do the Live CD :020:25
DaSkreech;-)20:25
DaSkreechYou are going to chroot and fix it20:25
JuJuBeeIt claims it is installed but when I go to adobe the initial page  has  swf that doesn't play, When i click on it, it tells me to get the latest player20:25
DJG9282ok how would i do that?20:25
DaSkreechDJG9282: I'm running out but once you get the live CD up ask someone here how to mount your drive and chroot into it20:25
DaSkreechI think anyone who knows that much can help you fix back your machine20:26
DaSkreechJuJuBee: restarted Firefox?20:26
DJG9282ok thanks20:26
JuJuBeeof coures20:26
JuJuBeemany times20:26
mefisto__JuJuBee: does /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so exist?20:27
JuJuBeeyes20:28
JuJuBeeso does ~/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so20:29
DaSkreechdo you have rigths to it20:29
JuJuBeein ~/.mozilla yes... in /usr yes...20:29
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mefisto__JuJuBee: in firefox, navigate to about:plugins and see if "shockwave flash" is listed20:31
JuJuBeeyes20:32
DJG9282Is it easier to get my OS up and running again through the live CD and chroot or through maintenace mode...not really experienced with this whole linux thing...anyone have suggestions?20:32
mefisto__JuJuBee: but no flash works? eg youtube?20:34
JuJuBeecorrect20:34
JuJuBeeI just purged all flash from adept still about says flash installed ???20:35
JuJuBeeSomtin fishy ...20:36
* xubuntu bye20:36
mefisto__JuJuBee: you've removed flashplugin-nonfree, and restarted firefox, but flashplugin is still in about:plugins in firefox? is that right?20:37
JuJuBeeYes20:37
mefisto__JuJuBee: do you still have libflashplayer.so anywhere?20:39
JuJuBeeHmm, in .mozilla... removed now ok20:41
JuJuBeeWow, that was very weird. after I removed from .mozilla... reinstalled everything worked...  Thanks20:42
mefisto__JuJuBee: maybe it was conflicting versions of the plugin?20:43
shampoonatormmh hi there, i have  a little problem, i played around with kmix a bit.. and now my microphone does not work anymore with teamspeak (and wow)20:43
JuJuBeeGuess so...20:44
shampoonatorany idea what it could be? if i select the green dot and the red dot in kmix i can hear myseld speaking, but not in teamspeak aso20:44
shampoonatori use aoss for wow btw..20:44
JuJuBeeWhat's up with icons on a kde4 desktop?  They have a dark shadow/box around them... kind of annoying20:45
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rohanhi, i enabled compiz using the desktop effects applet. now my alt-tab is really really weird. it used to show a list of windows first, now it juts cycles through them randomly20:55
rohanalso, alt-tab doesn't cycle through minimized windows. what could be the problem?20:55
jhutchins_wkrohan: Check in #compiz20:55
Rioting_pacifisthow to i set KDEWM=kwin ?20:56
tdelawow, kubuntu kde 4 looks slick, is that the default desktop for kubuntu?20:56
rohan_DAMN my net.20:56
rohan_hi, i enabled compiz using the desktop effects applet. now my alt-tab is really really weird. it used to show a list of windows first, now it juts cycles through them randomly. also, alt-tab doesn't cycle through minimized windows. what could be the problem?20:57
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jlahola.20:58
Rioting_pacifistrohan: thats the compiz alt-tab there is no way to use a kde style one in compiz AFAIK, you can change the settings for it in ccsm tho20:58
Rioting_pacifist!es20:58
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.20:58
jlaok..20:58
rohanRioting_pacifist: yes, but i've deleted all instances of compiz. i've disabled desktop settings too20:58
Rioting_pacifisthave you tried kwin --replace20:59
rohanRioting_pacifist: ok, i just tried it and it crashed whatever window manager i had20:59
savetheWorldHi all- looking at at kubuntu 8.04, and I was wondering if anyone had a feeling for how much resources it consumes compared to 6.06 (Dapper)21:00
Rioting_pacifistrohan: it should then load up kwin21:00
savetheWorldin otehr words - if I move to it, will it run fatser than my current desktop, orslower?21:00
savetheWorld*faster21:00
savetheWorld_CrashMaster_: did you read the question i asked?21:08
savetheWorld_CrashMaster_: I knew as soon as you wanted to know what hardware I was running that you had IRC disease # 3. :-)21:08
engineerwtf21:08
rohanthis compiz shit is really best left to gnome21:08
engineercompiz works like a charm here21:08
rohanRioting_pacifist: ok, i'm definitely sure i'm using compiz. anything else for me to check?21:08
savetheWorldIRC disease #3 = "I dont know the answer to the question you asked but I want to say something so badly I will instead answer a question That I will make up, and I will pretend it answers the question you asked."21:08
Nece228Compiz actually is designed for gtk2 (gnome)21:08
_CrashMaster_savetheWorld: Turns out I actually have disease numbers 1,3,6, and 42.21:08
savetheWorldDoes anyone know if Heron will run faster or Slower than Dapper when run on the same hardware?21:09
Rioting_pacifistdepends21:09
_CrashMaster_savetheWorld: Or, perhaps, I don't have the answer to your question, so I will ask further question in an attempt to draw more information from you, possibly leading me the answers you're looking for. If you believe that Im wasting your time, then just politely decline my assistance and move on to the next person trying to help you.21:10
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savetheWorldRioting_pacifist: Assume same hardware and same mix of applications and usage.21:10
savetheWorldRioting_pacifist: any other factors?21:10
Rioting_pacifistwithout benchmarking i cant tell id guess it would run faster if you have a proprietry driver other than that itll be about the same21:11
wayneandleannewhats the best way to encode to h.264 using dv:rip, anybody know?21:11
savetheWorldRioting_pacifist: OK, thanks21:11
Rioting_pacifistsavetheWorld: if you use firefox for many people firefox3 is faster, but konqueror is faster than both anyway21:12
savetheWorldhow id ff doing on memory leaks?21:13
savetheWorld*is ff321:13
Rioting_pacifistmuch better than ff221:14
coucoufyes, there is a big difference21:15
savetheWorldgood.   sounds like Heron may be an improvement for me.21:15
savetheWorldThanks.21:15
engineersavetheWorld great21:16
coucoufI currently stays under 200 Mo/week, whereas I used to reach 500 Mo and close it21:16
coucouf*It currently21:16
engineeri could say now the problem are the extensions21:16
Lemonade[and]FudHello guys, i was told that i could use "/whatever /whatever none bind 0 0" in fstab to mount a drive i already have mounted, but in a seperate location, with fstab. but when i doo mount -a i get this "mount: not a catalog" why is that?21:20
Nece228is possible to install edubuntu add on cd progs to kubuntu?21:24
igoralguem fala portugues?21:26
coucoufi just tried with "/olddir /newdir none bind" and it works fine21:26
engineerigor talvez21:27
llutzLemonade[and]Fud: should work that way, i use it for several mounts here21:27
Lemonade[and]Fudllutz : can you take a look at my fstab and see if you see any errors?21:28
llutz!paste | Lemonade[and]Fud21:28
ubottuLemonade[and]Fud: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)21:28
llutzLemonade[and]Fud: paste it there ^^21:28
Lemonade[and]Fud# /etc/fstab: static file system information.21:29
Lemonade[and]Fud#21:29
Lemonade[and]Fud# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>21:29
Lemonade[and]Fudproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       021:29
Lemonade[and]Fud# /dev/sda121:29
Lemonade[and]FudUUID=b59595f0-dce8-4d96-beb0-ea487ba06104 /               ext3    relatime,errors=remount-ro 0       121:29
Lemonade[and]Fud# /dev/sda521:29
Lemonade[and]FudUUID=e8fd4c47-e732-49d3-856c-733beade40b9 none            swap    sw              0       021:29
Lemonade[and]Fudnot everything got in21:29
Lemonade[and]Fudwait21:29
coucoufnot here the paste !!!21:29
llutz!paste | Lemonade[and]Fud use this21:29
ubottuLemonade[and]Fud use this: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)21:29
Lemonade[and]Fudah sry21:29
Lemonade[and]Fudhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/19455/21:30
llutzLemonade[and]Fud: change last line: /media/disk /home/bastu/downloads/media    none    bind    0 021:31
llutzLemonade[and]Fud: you have to use the mountpoint not the device for that bind21:31
Lemonade[and]Fudnope, the same21:31
Lemonade[and]Fudah21:31
coucoufon line 13, you souldn't use the device "/dev/sdc" but the already mounted folder21:31
Lemonade[and]Fudahh.. kk21:32
Lemonade[and]Fudthat should be it21:32
Lemonade[and]Fudthanks21:32
coucoufthat's it, I'm too slow :)21:32
Lemonade[and]Fudhehe21:32
Lemonade[and]Fud:)21:32
Lemonade[and]Fudthanks guys, no error21:32
JuJuBeeHow do I automount an ntfs partition when kubuntu boots?  I keep my music library on the ntfs drive and want it available for Amarok.21:34
JuJuBeeShould I just put an entry in /etc/fstab ? or another way?21:35
llutzfstab is the place21:35
JuJuBeeK21:35
JuJuBeeWhat is the easiest way to figure out what /def/??? the ntfs partition is?21:37
llutzsudo fdisk -l|grep ntfs21:37
mefisto__make that grep -i or grep NTFS21:41
JuJuBeegot it, thanks21:41
JuJuBeedoes hardy use ntfs-3g?21:42
tzdif a bug is reported and there's a solution then that should be stated in the header right? I mean, where can i see if the issue has been resolved please?21:42
JuJuBeetrying to figure out what to put into fstab  /dev/sdb1 /mnt/winxp ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 ?21:42
tekgeekltI have a few little issues right now but one that is very annoying is that I can not resize any windows ... I get the little arrow on the corner of any window but I can not click and drag them .. but I can hit maximize and that works21:43
mefisto__JuJuBee: yes it uses ntfs-3g. look in kmenu > system for NTFS configuration tool. It set up my fstab automatically21:43
tzdJuJuBee: I'm pretty sure ntfs-3g should be just ntfs in fstab... the other options i can't remember though :/21:44
mefisto__JuJuBee: also, it's better to make the mountpoint in /media instead of /mnt21:44
JuJuBeeno ntfs tool using kde4 and ok will use media21:45
JuJuBeeweird, when I mount it I can ls using cli and see everything, but when I use Dolphin, I cannot even see /media/WINXP21:48
JuJuBeeKonqueror works though21:49
mefisto__JuJuBee: what about media:/ in dolphin? does that work?21:50
jhutchins_wkJuJuBee: How are you mounting it?21:50
jhutchins_wkJuJuBee: I think you may be mounting it with root access only.21:50
tzddoes anyone know if the issue with: ... NetworkManager: <WARN> nm_dbus_init() ... at shutdown/reboot has been fixed please? I've seen a lot of reported cases but only seen 1 workaround that won't do it for me :/21:50
JuJuBeeFunny, after restarting Dolphin a couple of times it works.  KDE4 seems a bit buggy still21:51
sorinhi guys !21:52
bittinHello sorin21:52
JuJuBeeYipeeeee, my music is back...21:52
sorinafter every shootsown , y x86_64 kubuntu 8-04 remain without 3D accel21:53
sorinany ideea ?21:53
sorinsorry21:53
sorinafter every shootdown the graphic driver is disapearing21:54
adz21csorin: which driver is this?21:54
sorinit works fine ,with compiz , with  games21:55
sorinnvidia glx new21:55
adz21cyour using the deb?21:55
sorini use kubuntu x86_64 and that driver is the one from adept manager21:56
adz21cyes then. well thats what i use and i have no issues. When you say the driver disappears, what happens exactly?21:57
sorinblack screen after boot21:57
engineerunplugged monitor?21:58
DannilionCan anyone help? I was just watching a css-encrypted DVD using Kaffeine. Get to DVD 2, and it complains that it can't decrypt it, when it just managed the first DVD. I'm on Hardy. Any ideas?21:58
sorinis loading kubuntu welcome screen and after that nothing to say just a black screen21:58
engineersorin reinstall kdm21:59
engineeror reconfigure your xorg21:59
sorin ok i try to do this21:59
sorinbecause with safe recovery mode is working with generic nv driver i install the 3D driver ,but at first shootdown ,black screen again22:00
DannilionAhh... got it :) Was an error in the Kaffeine xine settings (was pointing to /dev/dvd instead of /dev/dvd122:05
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HispaHola22:06
jessica_i need help getting my webcam working in ubuntu its the Trust Webcam WB-1400T22:09
jessica_i beleve it needs the gcpca driver22:09
engineertried loading that driver?22:10
jessica_yes i dont think kubuntu has it (im using gutsy)22:11
HazaEvening folks. just a quick question. Does kubuntu has the same sort of software that allows me to see what processes are eating cpu and ram (like windows task manager)22:12
engineerksysguard22:12
tzdHaza: try ctrl + esc22:12
HazaAhhhh22:12
HazaThats it! :D22:12
HazaCheers!22:12
tzdnp ;)22:13
* Haza has finally made the final move to all linux recently ;)22:13
HazaI stared by moving over the server then decided to move over for my daily use lappy22:13
HazaAmazing...!22:13
jessica_dose anyone know how to get the gcpca installed22:13
Haza*started22:13
engineermodprobe gcpca22:13
jessica_thanks22:14
tzdhehe yeah i've recently went all linux too... formatted my old ntfs drives ;P22:14
jessica_FATAL: Module gcpca not found.22:14
HazaMy only problem is im starting to think that Kubuntu will auto complete everything for me. Even IRC conversation :)22:14
engineerjessica_ http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html22:15
caryjebuswerid22:15
* adz21c wishes he could go all linux but enjoys gaming too much ... thinks maybe he should mail bomb game devs till they start using opengl etc22:15
jessica_oo i spelt it wrong god i feel so noobish22:15
engineer...22:15
engineersudo modprobe by the way22:15
jessica_i spelt it gcpca its gspca22:16
pteague_workcould somebody please tell me how to get the taskbar to put some sort of border around each of the window tabs?22:16
jessica_ok thanks22:16
coucoufno problem, noobs are affectionate animals ^^22:17
tzdpteague_work: righ click panel - > adjust panel ... -> activity field - > Look: classic22:18
tzdpteague_work: that's freely translated by the way so don't take the "titles" too seriously ;)22:18
caryjebusadz22:19
caryjebusheard of somethg called22:19
caryjebusWINE, Cedega!!!22:19
caryjebus>_<22:19
adz21cyea they are ok, but they dont do all games22:19
adz21ccedege i stopped using, i was getting no where with it, so i cancelled subscription etc22:19
adz21cwine is ok, particularly with my old games22:20
adz21cbut some of them (splinter cell for example) it fails22:20
caryjebusthen use virtualization or emulation]22:20
adz21cfor splinter cell? how .....22:20
pteague_worktzd: k, i found it in configure panel -> taskbar -> appearance -> classic ... thanks for info though, i scanned past that earlier & didn't notice it22:20
caryjebusand who gets cedega that way? ;)22:21
tzdpteague_work: thank for the proper translation :)22:21
caryjebusIDK... can somehere explan how to virtalize windows?22:21
adz21cit wont work22:21
adz21ci got windows virtualised22:22
adz21cfor the odd desktop app i need22:22
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adz21cit cant even run star trek armada (4mb graphics card and 32mb of ram)22:22
engineeromg22:22
engineeri could run that here22:23
adz21cwell i play that via wine, but virtualised windows can;t play it22:23
adz21cso if virtualised windows can't play star trek armada its got no hope with games such as splinter cell22:24
caryjebus:\22:24
adz21cthus, for the odd game i still need a windows install, but wine is getting better22:24
adz21cstar trek legacy worked straight out, no messing22:25
adz21chl2 seems fine as well22:25
tzdI've got a problem with Fuppes autostart after a fresh install. For some reason it won't start at boot. Before reinstalling kubuntu hardy it worked perfectly?22:25
caryjebusonly one game of mine dosnt work with cedega or wine22:25
caryjebus:\22:25
massimojoin #ubuntu22:26
adz21cwell i have a couple, but tbh i don't game that much and ones i tend to play do work with wine, but for example the new splinter cell is out later this year so i will need a windows install for that, but once i completed it i doubt i will log into windows for a while22:26
kyle__hello?22:29
kyle__I have a question about wine, original half life, kubuntu22:30
adz21ckyle__: just ask and someone will answer if they know22:31
rickestask so we can find out if someone can help or not22:31
kyle__when I try to play in full screen it goes to the loading screen.  I can hear all the sound from the game but it never gets past the loading screen.22:32
kyle__when I run it windowed, it shuts down when i click new game.22:32
rickestkyle__: really the original original game or are you playing it through steam now?22:33
kyle__original22:33
rickestkyle__: Google might be able to help with that but most guides nowadays are for steam22:34
adz21ckyle__: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8 this may hold some answers, it seems to get good ratings so i would imagine it should would great, but that might have bug reports etc that might help u22:34
kyle__thats the problem i have been running into22:34
rickestkyle__: have you tried the winedb database. may be some old entries left in there22:35
kyle__checking it out now, thank you for all your help22:35
rickestgood luck, kinda tough to solve22:36
FingertipWhile installing from CD, kubuntu fails to recognize my screen, so it ends up logging in a prompt.22:36
FingertipSame for trying to run it straight from the CD22:37
HazaHmm, can i not use a wildcard character (/home/user/*) with scp to download the entire directory?22:38
jussi01how does one list all the users and groups from the command line?22:39
manolishello all22:39
Fingertiphi22:39
sorinthank you for your time guys !22:41
sorinimy problem is solved now22:41
sorini have 3d after complet shootdown22:42
engineershutdown*22:43
sorinin bios : aperture size in sistem memory was set at 256mb22:43
sorini must set to 512mb and is working now22:44
jalshow does one go about changing the bitrate k3b rips at22:44
sorinsame thing in 8-04 x86 and x86_6422:44
sorinengineer: thank you again ! shutdown is corect ! lol22:46
HazaThis might be a daft question but.... ive used scp to upload files to a remote machine before... how might i use scp to download files from a remote machine?22:48
rickestHaza: change the order of the args;   scp remote_host:path/to/files/* .22:48
Hazarickest: Ahhh, Cheers i will give it a try. :)22:49
Hazarickest: Perfect. Thank you22:49
rickestHaza: np22:50
ign0ramusHey all.  Still looking for a Parental Controls app (web filtering, mainly) that doesn't require using a server.  Any thoughts?22:51
rickestHaza: you can even mix & match multiple srcs, local and remote, to one dest; i.e.,  scp host1:somefile somefile2 host2:path/to/foo host3:    # puts somefile, somefiles2, and foo on host322:51
ActionParsniphey all, can someone suggest a web based jukebox app that wil play music on the server and not stream it to the client system?22:55
hollemolleHi, anyone knows how to set the vpnc.conf so that it doesnt use the vpn tunnel for my private network?22:57
hollemolleand for one more network, all the others should go through vpn22:58
FingertipShould I have any problems with a plug and play monitor?22:59
FingertipFor some reason kubunto won't open up a windowing system when I install...23:00
FingertipAnd it just shows me a command prompt.23:00
mike_wats new peps23:03
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ign0ramusfingertip: what version are you installing?23:06
Guest51033anyone know how i can get my sound working im using realtek hd hardware23:08
ign0ramusguest51033: are you using a laptop? if so, what brand and model?23:15
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Mr-Imacdaddyi need to register ?23:18
Odd-rationale!register | Mr-Imacdaddy23:19
ubottuMr-Imacdaddy: Information about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname.23:19
Mr-Imacdaddyim trying to find info on joining a ssl irc room using konverstion, or is their another irc client i can use? i never used kubuntu before, i just installed it, trying to keep away from windows23:21
shane__hello23:30
HazaOkay, another question :) What command do i want to do some reading on to seach for files on my HD?23:30
Hazashane__: Hello :)23:30
shane__i am having an isue and hoping someone can help23:30
shane__i am trying to burn a dvd i k3b and at 695 mb it exceeds the disk space,the size of dvd is 4.7 gb23:31
shane__i have done this before and the size should fit it is .avi23:31
shane__iv had this prob before in microsoft and had to switch burners nero worked23:32
shane__what might work well in kubuntu23:32
Odd-rationaleshane__: there is nero linux...23:33
shane__is it a add remove program or do i need to googlee it and try the install manualy23:33
Odd-rationaleshane__: well, i don't think it is free...23:34
awagmy power went out today, and when i rebooted my computer everything was fine except that amarok is now refusing to play mp323:34
Odd-rationaleshane__: the file is 700 mb? and it won't fit on a 4 gb dvd?23:34
shane__Odd-rationale: ok so i dont want that then ill search out a freeware23:34
Colonel_Panicsomething strange has happened when I upgraded to Hardy23:34
awagi've reinstalled amarok as well as w32codecs and stuff23:34
engineerawag that bastard23:34
shane__it is 695 mb and wont go on a 4.7gb23:35
awagengineer: yes :)23:35
shane__Odd-rationale: it is 695 mb and wont go on a 4.7gb23:35
Colonel_Panicwhenever I try to watch YouTube videos or any other Flash-enabled content, the first few seconds will play and then it stops23:35
Odd-rationaleshane__: that is strange, i have burned a 800 mb file to a dvd...23:35
Odd-rationalewith k3b.23:35
Colonel_PanicI noticed that Firefox was upgraded to version 323:35
Colonel_Panicis this a special issue with FF or should I reinstall the Flash plugin?23:36
engineerColonel_Panic fx3 is in the repositories a while back23:36
Colonel_Panicfx3?23:36
engineerreinstall it23:36
engineeryes, fox 323:36
Colonel_Panicreinstall Firefox?23:36
Colonel_PanicOK23:36
shane__Odd-rationale: i know thats where im gettin frustrated i had this also with one of the burns in micro23:36
engineerno23:36
engineerreinstall flash23:36
engineerno fox23:36
Colonel_Panicoh ok23:36
engineernot*23:37
Colonel_Panicwhat's the name of the package?23:37
Colonel_Panicsudo apt-get install flash?23:37
engineersudo apt-get install flash-nonfree23:37
engineeri think this is the one23:38
Colonel_Panicok thx will try23:38
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Colonel_PanicReading package lists... Done23:39
Colonel_PanicBuilding dependency tree23:39
Colonel_PanicReading state information... Done23:39
Colonel_PanicE: Couldn't find package flash-nonfree23:39
BluesKaj!flash | Colonel_Panic23:39
ubottuColonel_Panic: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash23:39
engineerflashplugin-nonfree23:39
Colonel_Panicok thx23:39
BluesKajflashplugin-nonfree23:39
Colonel_Panicflashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version.23:40
Colonel_Panic0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.23:40
Colonel_Panic23:40
Colonel_Panichymmm...23:40
engineersudo apt-get install reinstall23:40
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Colonel_Panicyeah it says that's not a valid operation23:41
engineer--reinstall23:41
NeuerHello. I have a probleme with my Sound. I'm useing Hardy Kubuntu and the soundchip is SI7012. The probleme is, no sound works, but if I start amarok it does for that, though I cann't let 2 programms run at the same time23:41
engineerman apt-get23:41
engineerffs23:41
engineerNeuer you need arts23:42
simakooo23:42
BluesKajNeuer, k-menu/system settings/sound system/enable sound system,then choose hardware tab/select the audio device/Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, click apply23:43
NeuerIt is activated.23:44
BluesKajNeuer, then in the terminal type ' alsamixer ', make sure the Master, PCM, Line & CD are all unmuted ,by using the "M" key'23:44
NeuerIs23:45
BluesKajok try , sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart in the terminal23:45
NeuerI guess the probs is with my TV-Card. I had a similar prob with feisty but got that fixed. Under Hardy somehow the steps have no effect.23:46
BluesKajsudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart23:46
BluesKajNeuer, I have to ask the obvious , do you have the ctrls in alsamixer up to 71% or so ?23:46
sm7xabHi! I've been trying to get an NVidia card working with NVidia binary drivers on Kubuntu 8.04. This seems to be an impossible task on this distribution. Does anyone have a link or so with good documentation?23:47
BluesKaj!nVidia23:47
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto23:47
Neuerif you meen the volume settings, nop up to 10023:48
BluesKajNeuer,don't go over 71% ...you'll just overdrive the amp inputs23:49
BluesKajNeuer, open kmix and enable Master & PCM on the output tab , then CD & IEC playback (if listed) in the Input tab , next make sure Mix & IEC958 are enabled in the Switches tab , then click on Settings/Configure Kmix and apply23:49
vomhi all, does anyone know anything about windows moving to different workspaces on their own accord in hardy (i.e. firefox when link is clicked in akregator)23:49
vomive looked at launchpad and kubuntu/ubuntu forums and only found one message (without an answer)23:50
BluesKajvom, could you explain more clearly ....what "exactly' is happening ?23:51
vomBluesKaj: yes, lets say firefox is open in workspace 2, and akregator in workspace 3 (i have 6 in the pager)23:52
vomwhen i click on a link in akregator, it opens in firefox23:52
Neuerdoesn't work23:52
vomBUT firefox moves from ws 2 to 3 (follows akregator)23:53
vomthis happens with kopete too23:53
BluesKajthat's cuz you have FF as the default browser globally23:53
vomBluesKaj: indeed i do23:54
vombut still why is it changing desktops and not staying put ?23:54
vomthis didnt happen in < hardy23:54
vomshould i change the default browser back to default and hardcode it in akregator ?23:55
BluesKajbeyond me vom , sorry ...don't use several desktops23:55
vomBluesKaj: thanks anyway23:55
shane__Odd-rationale: ok how about this i used it as new data dvd will this play in the dvd player now23:56
vomhmm hardcoding it makes it not move anymore23:56
vomnow to beat on kopete23:56
gokornhow to upgrade from 3.5 to 4.1 kde?23:57
BluesKajNeuer, you could try installing libk3b2-mp3 and libxine1-ffmpeg23:57
caryjebus is there a progam for mounting ISOS in linux23:58
sm7xabIs there a way to disable the start X in safe mode thingy? I prefer to get a nice black console if X doesn't start. Easier to handle.23:58

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