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jkanghi launchpad developers03:32
jkangi have a question - if i want to integrate launchapd into opensolairs, how can i get the liblaunchpad for opensolaris?03:33
thumper_laptopjkang: what do you mean by integrating launchpad into opensolaris?03:36
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jkangthumper, i saw the launchpad-integration* packages in ubuntu. i am thinking if we can have the binary for opensolaris.03:38
thumperjkang: I have no idea what is in those packages :-)03:38
thumperjkang: and I work on launchpad03:38
jkangthumper, there are some python scripts and a library (liblaunchpad.so). but the library is for linux, and i think i need to compile it for opensolaris. am i right?03:40
thumperjkang: sorry, absolutely no idea03:40
thumperjkang: I'm guessing it has some client scripts for dealing with bugs03:41
thumperthis is being superceded soonish by a new client library03:41
jkangthumper, thanks a lot!03:41
thumpernp03:41
jkangthumper, but if i want to use launchpad to manage the translation for opensolaris, where should i start?03:42
thumperjkang: by talking to someone that works with translations :-)03:42
thumperjkang: jtv would be one such person03:42
jkangthanks thumper. :-)03:43
thumperjkang: who appears to by hiding as jt103:43
jameshjkang: I think this is the code you're after: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/launchpad-integration/ubuntu04:23
jameshjkang: note that getting OpenSolaris package info loaded into Launchpad would probably be the biggest hurdle04:30
wgrantthumper: liblaunchpad-integration provides Help menu items in all GNOME (and perhaps KDE, but I forget) applications in main, giving easy access to Launchpad Answer, Bugs and Translations for that package. They just launch a web browser - nothing special.04:34
jameshit is something I hacked up 3 years ago ...04:40
jamesh(although it has had a fair bit of work done on it since then)04:41
jkangthanks, everyone for your kindly help.05:06
jkangjamesh, wgrant, i am sorry i have something urgent, and i have to leave for now. i will have a look at the code, and try it on opensolaris.05:07
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lifelessmpt: is there some way to do paragraphs in project summaries?07:25
lifelesshttps://edge.launchpad.net/bzr-search07:25
jameshlifeless: blank line?07:26
lifelessthe source is:07:26
lifelessThis plugin provides the ability to index a branch and then perform fast queries on the fulltext index. It is alpha-quality, which is to say that it works for many users and bug reports are appreciated.07:26
lifelessTo install, simple:07:26
lifelessIRC you such07:26
lifelessmkdir -p ~/.bazaar/plugins07:26
lifelessbzr branch lp:bzr-search ~/.bazaar/plugins/search07:26
lifelessoh foo07:26
lifeless*suck*07:26
lifelessnewlines before 'To install'07:26
wgrantAhem: 'The summary should be a single short paragraph.'07:27
lifelesswgrant: 'users dont read instructions'07:27
wgrantlifeless: Can't fix that.07:27
jameshlifeless: use description for everything but the summary?07:27
lifelessits also unclear where people see what, I and I want them to see this07:27
wgrantDescription is immediately under summary, IIRC.07:28
wgrantSummary is also in the portlet on some pages which I can't recall.07:28
lifelesswgrant: yes, its confusing UI wise, both in what to edit and how it behaves 07:28
lifelesswhich is why I was bringing to mpt07:28
wgrantAh.07:28
lifelessfor instance07:29
jameshlifeless: s/simple/simply/07:29
lifelessit should *say* that it will squash newlines in the summary07:29
lifelessthanks jamesh 07:29
* \sh wishes for live build logs ;)09:43
vililikkuHey! Could you remove my old account?09:45
ahasenackquestion: is there a "right" way to search for a bug with the "404" string/number in it? If I just type 404 in the search box, it takes me to the bug *number* 40409:55
ahasenack"404" doesn't help either09:55
domasadd one more keyword? :)09:58
Hobbseeahasenack: '404'09:58
ahasenackHobbsee: right, thanks09:58
Hobbseeahasenack: no problem.  i only happened to discover it by trial and error myself09:59
ahasenackI tend to assume that " and ' are equal in this regard09:59
thekornhmm, strange, when I search for 404 on https://edge.launchpad.net/+search I get a 'not allowed here'-error10:03
BjornTthekorn: care to file a bug about it? the error is probably that bug 404 is part of the search result, and you don't have permission to see it.10:18
ubottuBjornT: Bug 404 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/404 is private10:18
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BalaamsMiraclehttps://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu still says "The current translation focus for Ubuntu is 7.10 (Gutsy), and we encourage you to translate it first.", this can't be right, can it?11:20
bimberiBalaamsMiracle: Translations can be copied to later releases, so it probably is right.11:25
BalaamsMiracleAs one of the Dutch translators, I am very sure that the current translation focus is on 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and it has been so since it's release last April.11:26
kiko__BalaamsMiracle, fixed.11:37
kiko__err fixing11:38
BalaamsMiraclekiko__: Thanks!11:38
bimberiBalaamsMiracle: ok, sorry for the misinfo.11:38
BalaamsMiracleNo worries. LP is so extensive, it's easy to overlook a thing or two. This was just one of those two :-)11:39
bimberi:)11:39
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wgrantkiko-afk: jtv said earlier it should be kept on Gutsy.11:40
kiko-afkwgrant, really? is hardy not OFT yet11:40
wgrantBecause translations are copied forwards, basically.11:41
* wgrant finds logs.11:41
BalaamsMiraclewgrant: Current Ubuntu version is Hardy, Intrepid is in preperation. So Hardy will be copied forwards to Intrepid. Or am i missing something?11:42
wgrant< jtv> In general, translation focus is the oldest Ubuntu release that is still "actively supported," as seen from the translations point of view.11:42
kiko-afkthat's bong11:43
kiko-afkwell.. it's not the general rule, I think11:43
kiko-afkhardy being lts n all11:43
BalaamsMiracleI've never heard of such a rule. And i have been a member of the Dutch translation team since 2006, so i must at least have heard a rumour of it.11:45
wgranthttp://pastebin.com/f12a3ba7c11:46
munckfishAm I right in presuming that uploads to a ppa will do the same as the real archive and close any LP bugs referenced in the changelog?11:58
munckfishIf that's the case is there way to prevent that happening if I am just uploading a test version to a PPA?11:58
wgrantmunckfish: No, they don't.11:58
munckfishI don't want to close the bug prematurely11:58
munckfishwgrant: excellent11:59
wgrantThat would be very very bad, which is why that bug was fixed many months ago.11:59
munckfishmakes life easier11:59
mptGoooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!12:00
mpter, hang on12:00
wgrantGood evening timezone-confused mpt.12:00
mptGoooooooooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!12:00
munckfishwgrant: thx12:00
wgrantmpt: 14 seconds late?12:00
mptThanks wgrant, I was confused for a moment there12:00
mptlifeless, part of RegistrySimplifications is to merge the summary and description for projects12:01
mptThat way we won't need to explain that the summary is a single paragraph12:02
mpt(besides being fewer fields to deal with)12:02
\shguys, please make bug #239140 a wishlist one :) 12:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 239140 in soyuz "[Wishlist] Live Build Logfile View " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23914012:02
wgrant/$project/+edit is rather epic at the moment.12:02
wgrant\sh: Check the builder page.12:03
wgrantYou can see what it's doing.12:03
\shwgrant: but not the logfile while it's building :)12:03
\shwgrant: like OBS has it12:03
wgrant\sh: You can see the last few lines of the output.12:03
\shwgrant: don't tell me it's hidden under a secret url again ;)12:03
wgranthttps://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/artigas, for example.12:03
wgrantIt's on the builder status page, not the build page.12:04
cprov-lunch\sh: the build page says 'building' and there is a link to the builder page.12:04
cprov-lunch\sh: click if you feel like watching 'LP buildd tv' ;)12:04
\shcprov-lunch: hehe..something like that..I like the way OBS is doing that12:04
mptcprov-lunch, why is the logfile tail on the build machine page but not on the build page?12:05
cprov-lunch\sh: the "logtail" (last 2k of the buildd log) is retrieved from the builder every minute or so. The whole buildlog is only reachable when the build is finished.12:06
\shcprov-lunch: yes...but as I wrote..it's sometimes nice to see the log flow as livestream ;)12:06
cprov-lunch\sh: it's not possible with the current mechanisms, the logtail requests are not time, neither size-fixed.12:07
cprov-lunchmpt: it could be easily presented in the build page as well, but it wouldn't be a permanent feature in there.12:08
\shcprov-lunch: that's why I wishlisted it ;)12:09
cprov-lunchmpt: in the sense, it would be only present while the build is building, which is a very short time compared to the time the build record is stored (forever).12:09
mptIt shows on the build machine page only for a very short time, too :-)12:10
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ruiboonhi. how do i link a mozilla upstream bug to a current launchpad bug? i have used the also affect.. link but it gives me the following error: "Bug watches can not be added for Ubuntu...."16:09
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ruiboonahh.. it was the "also affect projects" link and not distrbution link to link upstream bug. 16:27
AndyPgood evening. i don't know much about launchpad's bzr hosting but i'm just suggesting it to somebody. turns out their project isn't open source so they want read access to their bzr branches locked down to just a couple of people... is that doable in launchpad?16:28
statikhi AndyP! launchpad is free for open source projects. for a closed source project we're soon adding a subscription option, so what you described is possible but would require a yearly fee based on how many developers were accesing the brances16:39
AndyPstatik: ok, i shall pass on the information, thanks16:42
statikAndyP: you can mail elliot at canonical if you want to pursue it. glad you like launchpad!16:42
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mtaylorany launchpad admin's around? 17:09
mtaylorsomeone changed the name of our project, and I'm wondering who did it? 17:09
statikmtaylor: jay just filed a request17:10
mtaylormthaddon: hey there... you're now listed as the owner of the "mysql" project17:10
mtaylorstatik: really? 17:10
statikmtaylor: yeah, setting up a mysql project group with lots of projects under it17:10
mthaddonmtaylor, yep, was just wondering who I need to assign it to - a team or an individual17:10
statikmthaddon: it should go to ~mysql, rather than ~mysql-developers I think17:10
mthaddonmtaylor, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/3593317:11
mthaddonstatik, cool, if we can get confirmation of that I can make the change17:11
mtaylormthaddon: yes... ~mysql would be the right owner17:12
mthaddonmtaylor, ok, done17:12
mtaylorsweet. thanks17:12
mtaylorsorry for the panic17:12
* mtaylor goes back to try to beat some semblance of communication into his co-workers 17:12
mthaddonno problem - could you add that into the question I pasted the URL for above?17:12
mtaylor:)17:12
mtaylormthaddon: absolutely17:13
mthaddonthx17:13
mtaylormthaddon: done17:16
mthaddoncool, thx17:17
mtaylormthaddon: while I've got you ... how do I now add projects to this project group17:17
mtaylor?17:17
mthaddonmtaylor, from within the admin page for each project there's an option to say "this is a part of"17:17
mtaylorah. ok17:17
mtaylorluckily, I am the admin/owner of several of those projects already :)17:18
mthaddonexcellent :)17:18
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domashi!18:32
domashow do reassign my branch to different project in a way that old path would be still valid? :)18:32
domasoh hi jay!18:33
jaypipesdomas: hola.18:33
kikodomas, you can't really18:35
kikodomas, but what's the use case? it's very weird.18:35
domaskiko: well, if I decide that branch belongs to other project (or someone else decides for me)18:36
kikodomas, how can that make sense, though? one project's code is one thing. another project's code is another18:37
domaskiko: branches and forks. 18:37
domasespecially forks (though I can't use this word, actually :)18:37
jaypipesdomas: sure you can.18:37
domasforgot elliot's nick18:39
statikhi domas18:39
domasha!18:39
domasremembered!18:39
statikhows life? still hacking on wikipedia on the side?18:39
domasyup18:39
statikvery cool18:39
domasboring nowadays, so I'm making more challenge18:40
domaslike upgrading mysql (and forking, and creating branches on launchpad, etc )18:40
statikdomas: yeah, that is great! very soon we will have stacked branches, so that uploading a new branch of mysql will be lighting fast, as it will only need to upload new revisions which are not already in launchpad18:40
domasstatik: yeah, I've heard about 1.618:41
domasnow it is PITA18:41
statikdomas: i like your idea about reporting bugs against a branch, i don't think there is a clear answer, it depends a lot on the intent of the branch owner. just wrote back a mail about it18:41
domaswhen I realize I throw few hundred megs of data on free service, it is a bit 'oops sorry'18:41
domaswell, really, if people start branching big stuff, it is desired feature18:42
statikdomas: well, we put it there to be used. it's important for people to be able to easily publish their branches and bugfixes18:42
domasyup18:42
statikthis is really a new era, the code has been locked up for so long18:42
domasonce stacking will work, it will be brilliant service18:42
domasstatik: I've been maintaining 4.0 fork on my own SVN :)18:43
statikouch18:43
domasthe good part, vendor imports were not needed18:43
domasstatik: my branches will be bugfixes and features, though they will constantly have vendor merges18:44
domasis that a separate project, or is that a 'branch' that just won't be merged?18:44
statikdomas: it's up to you, really. i would at first just make it a branch that won't be merged, I think you can set up a sakila team so that folks have all the needed rights to edit bugs18:45
statikdomas: you can of course also upload .debs to your PPA, and then it's easy for other people to install and try out your branch18:46
domasstatik: oh, I'm already user of PPA18:46
domasI have a feature request for PPA!18:46
statikcool :)18:47
domassubmit single source package, get build for 10 ubuntu releases :)18:47
domasnow it is too annoying that you have to have separate source packages for _every_ ubuntu release18:47
statikdomas: yeah, i think there is some work going on in that area, about easily copying packages18:47
Ngyou can copy the packages already afaik18:47
statikah cool. so you just copy the source package to each release via the web UI?18:48
cprov-lunchstatik: yes, but you have to copy source + binaries. The source can only be built once within a PPA.18:49
domaswell, I need multiple builds, in theory :)18:49
cprov-lunchdomas: then you need multiple sources.18:49
domasthats indeed what my feature request is about ;-)18:50
domasbuilding multiple packages from single source18:50
cprov-lunchdomas: it's very unlikely that we will implement something to do bin-NMU (orphan binary rebuilds)18:50
domasmmm, why orphan?18:50
domasjust say 'this is same source'18:51
cprov-lunchdomas: if you depend or benefit of any new feature in the new series it should be documented as a new source package, but this is a very long discussion.18:52
domasI'd sacrifice 'lpia' or even 'i386' builds :) 18:52
cprov-lunchdomas: there is a unfinished thread in lp-users ML, fyi18:52
domashah, right, sorry to come with old topics :)18:52
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cprov-lunchdomas: np, it's very fresh, in fact, and it would be nice if you could post your requirements there too.18:53
cprov-lunchdomas: you know, we are here to provide tools that you actually *like* to use ;)18:54
domas<3 ;-)18:55
lagacprov-lunch: can you make launchpad faster then? ;)18:55
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cprov-lunchlaga: sure, why not ?18:56
lagayay18:56
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cprovfaster than my 'lunch' ...18:56
lagait's actually quite good right now. so thanks for doing that job :)18:56
cprovdamm pidgin ..18:56
domasthe other problem is that package namespace is flat18:57
domasso I can't have same package version on multiple series18:57
domasso I have to add 'gutsy' and 'feisty' to package versions18:57
domaslike here: https://launchpad.net/~wikimediabuild/+archive18:57
cprovlaga: yes, thanks BjornT, he is the performance-master of this cycle ;)18:57
lagacprov: i'll put his name on my list then ;)18:57
domasBjornT: what are you doing in Vilnius?!!? :)18:57
domasI don't want to share the weather with anyone! :)18:58
BjornTdomas: enjoying life :)18:59
cprovdomas: you don't have to, unless you want to have (and deal with) rebuilds in each series18:59
domascprov: we need packages for multiple series :)18:59
domasslacking on upgrades..18:59
domasBjornT: is canonical any related to pov.lt?18:59
cprovdomas: a lot of ubuntu itself is not rebuilt, you would be surprised.18:59
cprovdomas: fine, if you have to, that's the way to go.19:00
domasbtw, this is my experience of filing bugs on lp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~domas-mituzas ;-)19:00
domasbut I guess that has to be sent to #ubuntu-bugs :)19:00
cprovdomas: maybe https://edge.launchpad.net/autoppa can make it easier for you19:00
domascprov: checking19:00
domasmmm, looks nice19:01
jcastrobarry: is that you playing in the Launchpod podcast?19:01
barryjcastro: it is!   well, except for the canned drums :)19:02
jcastroheh19:02
jcastrofull of awesome!19:02
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barrythanks man!19:02
statikdon't tell anyone, but video screencasts are next19:02
popeyooooo19:02
popey:)19:02
* barry scrounges for his clothes19:02
statikwe need dancers rather than musicians for that intro19:03
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barrystatik: dancing is definitely not in my employment contract19:03
statikit's in your life contract man! free yourself19:04
barrystatik: hard to imagine how i'd be any "freer" than i am right now!  hence the fear of video podcasting19:04
statikhaha19:04
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statikhey popey, are you still sticking with a static slide as the intro for screencasts? I've not had much luck searching for linux software that can make a snappy intro movie like they have at railscasts.com19:11
popeystatik: funny you should mention that19:32
popeystatik: http://popey.com/~alan/0001_0150.avi something like that?19:33
statikpopey: yeah!19:33
statikhow did you do that?19:33
popeyi didn't, someone else did in blender19:34
popey  http://popey.com/~alan/scene-2.45-packed.blend thats the source19:34
statikawesome19:34
popeyhe's on irc, irc nick is gord, but don't you steal him from me! :)19:34
statikhaha, no worries. thanks!19:35
statikit's great to know that blender can do this19:35
Bodsdahi, i was here afew days ago asking how to upload files to my launchpad project,i maged to do it but since then ive done a system reinstall, so i was wondering if someone could tell me how to set everything up on my machine then upload?19:38
Bodsdahello, is anyone here?19:42
swegnerI have a relatively new project on launchpad and I'm using bazaar versioning hosted on launchpad.  However, on the project site, it says "Doesn't use Code", when I can clearly see my bzr checkins.  Is there something I'm missing?  The project is here: https://launchpad.net/pwdhash-sharp19:47
Bodsdaanyone here19:51
Bodsda??19:51
swegnerI'm here  :)19:52
Bodsdame too ;~)19:52
statikswegner: it's just a checkbox you can change19:55
statikit's about communicating the project policy19:55
statiknot about preventing people from uploading branches19:55
statikswegner: if you are the project owner you should be able to change that19:56
statikBodsda: what kind of files do you want to upload? do you have a release of your product that you want to upload?19:56
statikin that case the setup on your machine depends on your project, uploading to launchpad is just creating a release, and then uploading files to that release19:57
swegnerstatik: ok cool.. I've been looking around though and I didn't see it-- do you happen to know where the option is?19:57
Bodsdastatik, er no,., morelike dev files for other people in my teamto work on,.,. but im afraid my dianna's ready,.,.lol,. bad timing,.il be back in a bout 10-20 mins19:57
Bodsdasorry19:57
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swegnerstatik-- just kidding, found it  :)19:57
statik:)19:57
statikBodsda|AFK: dev files, as in source code? that would be done with bazaar, and you need an SSH key in launchpad to upload branches. I'll link you to some tutorials: https://help.launchpad.net/FeatureHighlights/BazaarHosting http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/en/mini-tutorial/index.html19:59
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asomethingAnyone know if using gmail's vacation responder will spam LP when I go out of town? Gmail claims: "messages addressed to a mailing list you subscribe to will not receive a vacation response." 22:43
mwhudsoni would trust gmail to get that right22:44
kikoasomething, does gmail think launchpad is a ML?22:45
mwhudsonlaunchpad-users probably has Precedence: bulk or whatever22:46
asomethingI don't know. I'm not sure how they do it. Some header I suposse  22:46
mwhudsonPrecedence: list22:46
geserperhaps they check for List-Id22:47
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kikoasomething, how many bugs are you subscribed to?22:58
emethello23:05
emetlaunchpad offers free bzr hosting right?23:06
domasyep!23:06
emetyeah I'm working on a project with someone and he seems to hate SVN (which is what SF provides)23:06
emetso he wants to use Git but I he uses Windows and I keep telling him Git is the suck on Windows23:07
emetbzr is better supported on windows I heard, is this true?23:07
beunoemet, I don;t know how it compares to git on windows, but I do know many users use it on a daily basis23:15
emeton Windows?23:18
emetGit on Windows is experimental, I think it still requires Cygwin as well23:19
beunoah, than it's *way* better  :)23:22
Bodsdastatik, are you about?23:46

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