[00:54] hah gentoo [00:54] fun fun === Mersault_ is now known as Mersault === rhpot1991_laptop is now known as Zinn === Zinn is now known as rhpot1991_laptop [12:50] Hello anybody here? [12:53] I have a question concerning IRC on mythbuntu 7.10 [12:59] hello? === bogus- is now known as bogus [13:37] no [14:08] Hi all [14:08] i'm about to make a mythtv theme, i need a bit of help [14:08] What theme should i base it on? [14:09] Ace2016: Personally I'd base it on one you already like [14:09] i'm redoing all the graphics from scratch [14:09] so i want a theme that works [14:10] i made a gtk2 theme to find that the theme was broken [14:10] ahh, you want GTK2 themes [14:10] no [14:10] i want a working mythtv theme [14:11] one thats complete and working well [14:11] use one of the offical mythbuntu ones then [14:11] where can i get the theme from? [14:12] apt-get source mythtv-theme-mythbuntu on the command line will put it in your current directory [14:12] but i haven't built the box yet so i need to download it from somewhere [14:13] you have a ubuntu machine anyway? [14:13] s/anyway/anywhere [14:13] no i use debian [14:13] packages.ubuntu.com should point you at it, though it may not be the most recent [14:13] can't he get it from LP? [14:14] you can, I'm just trying to find a url [14:14] LP? [14:14] is it a requirement to have a vertical menu? [14:14] all the screenshots i see have a vertical list [14:15] who designs the mythbuntu themes? [14:15] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/m/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu/mythtv-theme-mythbuntu_0.20080421.tar.gz [14:16] I can't remember atm, poke laga or superm1 they'll prob remember [14:16] thanks [14:17] can buttons overlap in the themes? [14:18] is there a video of mythbuntu of the start up? [14:19] i want to see if i need a matching splash screen too [14:21] this would be nice as a boot splash http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv/themes/mythtv_addict_wide.png [14:21] http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/mythbuntu-artwork-usplash for the usplash theme and http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/gtk2-engines-mythbuntu for the gtk+ theme [14:22] do i need a gtk theme? [14:22] its only a media centre [14:22] it's used for the mythbuntu control center etc [14:22] http://mythbuntu.com/files/images/7.10_final_usplash.preview.png is the usplash currently in use. [14:23] no, we have the chrome one currently [14:25] laga: who made the current mythbuntu theme? [14:27] troy_s and foxbuntu, i believe [14:27] it's based on justinh's work [14:27] whats that? [14:27] the old theme? [14:28] * DaveMorris hasn't got a mythbuntu usplash theme installed anyway, I should prehaps replace my ubuntu one [14:29] what's what?! [14:29] I think i'll try and make this in mythtv http://xazac87.deviantart.com/art/Windows-Media-Center-2008-75565961 [14:31] good luck. looks nice, but i don't know how well it'll work on a ten foot UI [14:31] what is it based on? what is justinh's work? [14:31] 10 foot ui? [14:31] ... [14:32] you have a 10 foot screen? [14:32] o_o [14:32] -.- [14:33] no. when you're sitting 10 foot away from the screen :) [14:33] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10-foot_user_interface [14:35] good point [14:44] can things like date be displayed on the mythtv skin? [14:49] the time is in a corner currently, so I would imagine so [14:51] ah ok [14:55] for some reason i thought making a theme would take me a day [14:55] i see now that this is going to take longer [15:05] What does the optical disks section do? [15:05] does it play a dvd? [15:09] play/rip optical discs [15:10] so dvds and audio cds? [15:12] vcd's as well [15:42] oh noes i was called upon? [15:43] Ace2016, if you are looking to base anything on our existing themes, or packaging to them, they are all available in apt [15:43] mythbuntu-artwork-usplash, mythtv-theme-mythbuntu, gtk2-engines-mythbuntu [15:43] first for usplash, second for myth theme, third for gtk2 theme [15:44] you are probably working on the second itme [15:44] so you can apt-get source from a hardy box or you can grab from launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PACKAGE where PACKAGE is the package name i just said [15:55] superm1: thanks [15:58] superm1: would it be possible to add a disk space meter at the bottom? i think it would be something important to the end user to know how much space is left. i would hate if a recording stopped in the middle [15:59] not without coding changes i dont think [15:59] but recordings will auto expire [15:59] if disk space is low [16:00] does mythtv themes not support commands with say the watch command? so you could watch -n5 time or something like that [16:00] well there is no widget for that stuff [16:01] the new qt4 stuff would be more likely to show it [16:01] there is a information center page that shows that information [16:02] i wanted to get rid of the information center, put any important info into other areas [16:03] you might consider asking to help with that in #mythtv [16:03] for the next release [16:03] they can point you with some ideas of how to do so [16:03] with the new qt4 stuff and get you started there [16:04] ok thanks [17:28] having trouble with video playback, it works fine at first but after a few minutes it starts gettin choppy, any ideas [17:48] I guys, I'm not able to scan channels with my dual feed astra hotbird on mythtv [17:49] I've configured the 4 stages [17:49] but nothing....... maybe I need aid.. [17:50] there's someone that want to aid me configuring my system? [18:17] no one? [18:42] hey guys that last update for mythbuntu 8.04 killed lirc...lirc starts but won't take inputs...It looks like it overwrote the existing setup (i guess)...anyone know of a forum article or something to fix it...updated it last night...sorry lost connection somehow...LOL [18:42] javatexan1: let's see.. [18:43] javatexan1 it should have mdae backips of the configs [18:43] there was (not sure it still exists) a bug that lirc updates would overwrite custom configs [18:44] well my 8.04 was an upgrade from 7. [18:45] I have noticed some configuration differences between my upgraded box and native 8.04 installs...everything I've seen so far are cosmetic [18:47] javatexan1: have you seen this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=824870 [18:47] not sure if there's a fix in there, didnt read it ;) [18:48] nope...missed that one. LOL. did you google to find it? [18:48] no [18:48] used my eyes ;) [18:48] doh.....I've been spoiled by google...It catches most things.... [18:49] if they're indexed already.. and high enough in the search ranking [18:59] darn...it looks like my hardware was backed up, but lircd.conf was overwritten. I have hardware.conf hardware.conf.old and lircd.conf all with the same time...but no lircd.conf.old [19:03] do you have a lircd.conf.dpkg-old [19:04] fixed....there was a backup from the lircd.conff.dpkg-old [19:04] ah...LOL [19:04] thanks jphillip [19:12] np [19:38] anyone able to help me with this - https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+question/35542 [19:46] Have you run mythfilldatabase? [19:46] yes, still get the same error message telling me I need to run mythfilldatabase [20:02] Wait- [20:02] Are you running on external listings ie xmlttv ? [20:03] I have Schedules Direct - is that what you mean? [20:03] Yes. [20:03] Have you set up an account and such? [20:03] yep, and confirmed it's downloading data okay [20:04] I think you have to run mythfilldatabase --manual the first time if you're using an external source. [20:04] I can try that [20:20] haffe, ran "mythfilldatabase --manual" - http://paste.ubuntu.com/19428/ - and then ran mythtv-setup again, and still got the same message telling me I need to run mythfilldatabase [20:21] Did you answer all the questions? [20:21] it didn't ask me any questions [20:22] Ok, I'm really sorry, I'm out of ideas. [20:22] I've already put in my info about username/password for Schedules Direct [20:22] ok, thx anyway [20:22] for SD, you don't need mfdb --manual [20:33] laga, mfdb seems to be working fine - it's just that mythtv-setup doesn't seem to think it is... (keeps prompting me to rerun it) [21:45] anyone know why when I escape from live TV it crashes MythTV ? kicks me back to the desktop [21:50] stu, what version of mythbuntu, what tuner, when did you last update the system? [21:50] whatever is in the respos [21:50] and im fully up to date... so like yesterday I guess [21:50] I loose track of all the updates, drives me crazy [21:51] respos = repos [21:51] do a uname -r and give me that result [21:51] 2.6.24-18-generic [21:52] actually I turned off updates the other day thinking about it [21:52] they keep breaking my hardware [21:52] breaking your hardware? [21:53] yeah.. for example to get my IR receiver to work I have to hack the source code for the appleir.c in ubuntu-modules [21:53] to get sound to work I need to add options to alsa soruce [21:53] whenever a new module update is available it un does all that and installs its own thing [21:54] so I have to go and download the modules source, recompile etc [21:54] you think an update may fix this issue ?? if so i'll do it... [21:54] what tuner is it? [21:54] hauppage wintv nova [21:55] the front end on the back end doesnt have this problem [21:55] so im doubtfull its the tuner [21:55] oh this is a FE only machine? [21:55] its when I exit live TV on the FE only machine the whole FE crashes [21:55] instead of taking me back to the menu [21:55] ok... [21:55] anything in the logs? [21:56] what vid card is in this machine? [21:56] I tried starting it from the terminal so I could keep an eye on it... not had a look at the logs but can do [21:56] ATI [21:56] which driver are you using? (i.e. fglrx) [21:57] 2008-06-11 21:56:37.898 TV: Changing from WatchingRecording to None [21:57] 2008-06-11 21:56:37.937 DPMS Reactivated. [21:57] ok nothing in the logs then [21:57] thats the normal actions [21:57] i'm not entirely sure.. I installed the driver from the restricted drivers but I have made changes to xorg.conf [21:57] check your xorg for the driver [21:58] yes fglrx [21:58] are you using QT or OpenGL in the Frontend? [21:58] opengl [21:58] i'll try QT [21:58] no [21:58] opengl is best [21:58] for this [21:59] yeah its still crashing :P [21:59] is the frontend mythtv .21? [21:59] ( I assume so...but just asking ) [21:59] where do I check that ? [21:59] in myth I guess [22:00] no [22:00] system status or so? [22:00] oh [22:00] apt-cache policy mythtv-frontend [22:01] 0.21 [22:01] k [22:01] +fixes [22:01] right [22:01] this only started happening recently [22:01] may have been after an update [22:01] so perhaps I should do another update, reboot, and check [22:01] when you run it in terminal and it crashes does anything inteligent show up as an error? [22:01] nope, same as the logs [22:01] hmm [22:02] yeah I guess try updates like this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [22:14] foxbuntu, the sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is redundent [22:15] tgm4883_laptop, no its not [22:15] they pull seperate upgrades [22:16] dist-upgrade just says it's ok to install new packages if they are required [22:16] perhaps you are right though [22:16] no time, have to run [22:18] I agree with tgm4883_laptop [22:19] bah, now I feel dirty [22:19] really leaving now [22:19] heh [22:19] * tgm4883_laptop exits gracefully [22:20] rhpot1991_laptop, I have seen it more than once apply updates that upgrade doesnt [22:21] usually kernel upgrades [22:22] dist-upgrade will [22:22] but it will grab everything that upgrade does too [22:22] From the man-page: [22:22] "upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages currently installed on the system [22:22] ... [22:22] dist-upgrade, in addition to performing the function of upgrade, also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages" [22:22] so you only need to dist-upgrade [22:22] yup [22:23] but not what tgm4883_laptop was saying [22:23] I think we are all on the same page, but using different words [22:23] thats how I read what tgm4883_laptop said [22:23] ok [22:23] well no biggy [22:23] just as well all understand [23:00] Am i in the channel [23:00] yes [23:01] hmmm, got a question about the live cd, when i boot it up and its running [23:02] i launch the myth then it goes through its control center right [23:02] its asking me for setup of a backend? [23:02] does it need a backend to run it [23:02] yes [23:05] so i must setup this on an external drive or a usb stick, i don't want to install on this system yet until i give it a trial runthrough [23:06] basically, yes. or you need another backend somewhere on your LAN [23:06] manual is not clear on how to setup this way [23:07] all my pcs are vista, i do not have a backend installed anywhere [23:07] i have to build one [23:07] while we're at it: you'll also need a tv tuner card in your computer which is supported by linux [23:09] ah i got a tuner card but its not installed, i have a dvb-s generic BDA card in it for sat reception [23:09] haven't set that up yet [23:10] well, "generic BDA" probably also means there's a windows driver which provides a special interface.. it'll have to work in linux :) [23:10] not so much into the tv part yet, just the media library access only for now [23:10] ah [23:11] i'm using vistas media center which you know is ***, and i've tried mediaportal but its limited [23:12] so though i'd try linux and myth [23:12] but not to familar with linux [23:13] tried linuxmce but wow thats a lot of work and failed miserably at it [23:14] maybe in the future again i will try [23:14] so haow do i get it to see anything on my lan [23:17] heh, sorry. i haven't used windows in ages. maybe someone else knows what mythbuntu uses by default :) [23:43] will mythbuntu repartition a drive that has windows on it successfully? [23:44] can anyone tell me how to revert my mythtv OSD settings to default? I've messed around with the fonts and now I cant get it to look decent anymore [23:45] sory [23:52] stu, there is not revert to default option, you just have to put them back [23:52] stu, sorry i had to run off, howd the updates work out?