| Odd-rationale | AlexCONRAD: jockey i think... | 00:16 |
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| AlexCONRAD | Odd-rationale: yes, thanks, someone pointed me that: jockey-gtk | 00:16 |
| Willeth | hey all, i'm using a toshiba gigabeat f40 DAP with rocbox installed, and it doesn't seem to want to mount under eeexubuntu - can anyone give me any pointers? | 00:20 |
| lsemple2 | what is the command to start xfce ??? | 00:51 |
| The_Kernel | Anyone buy those Dell laptops wit Ubuntu on 'em? | 01:01 |
| The_Kernel | zoredache didn't you say that you bought one? | 01:01 |
| zoredache | yes | 01:07 |
| zoredache | I have an inspiron 1505 | 01:07 |
| The_Kernel | OK | 01:07 |
| The_Kernel | The one I plan to get | 01:07 |
| The_Kernel | or...rather...the 1525N is the one I'm getting | 01:08 |
| bullium | does the window manager allow you to change the keyboard shortcuts, or is it just a "view only" screen? | 01:56 |
| bullium | nevermind I got it :) just use the add function and add a custom theme | 01:57 |
| bullium | thanks anyway' | 01:57 |
| xTOGx | i just got xubuntu installed. how do i get the gui to work? | 02:03 |
| xTOGx | i'm getting a -bash: startx: command not found | 02:03 |
| bullium | xTOGx, did the install complete without any errors? | 02:04 |
| xTOGx | it wouldn't do the software bit | 02:04 |
| xTOGx | is there a way i can finish that now? | 02:06 |
| bullium | was your network connection not detected during the install? | 02:08 |
| xTOGx | network connection went fine | 02:11 |
| xTOGx | i'm pretty sure it's connected now | 02:11 |
| xTOGx | not sure how to tell | 02:11 |
| bullium | type sudo ifconfig -a what is the output of that? | 02:15 |
| keeleyt83 | i can log into xubuntu but the desktop doesn't appear to load. can anyone help? | 02:19 |
| keeleyt83 | im running 8.04 | 02:20 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, what kind of error do you get. what are the steps you are taking to see if the gui can be manually started? | 02:22 |
| keeleyt83 | i dont get any error. whenever i login normally, the harddrive is spinning like its working but then it stops and nothing loads. the cursor is there but nothing else | 02:24 |
| keeleyt83 | ive tried starting gnome-safe but the same thing | 02:24 |
| keeleyt83 | im rather new to linux so i havent tried to start manually | 02:24 |
| bullium | tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log what is the output of that? | 02:25 |
| keeleyt83 | k 1 sec | 02:26 |
| keeleyt83 | says no such file or directory. i ran it as root from recovery mode, fyi | 02:28 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, oh ok, just whereis tail and see if it's on your system | 02:29 |
| bullium | your probably using busybox though right? | 02:30 |
| bullium | I mean it's a recovery console | 02:30 |
| keeleyt83 | yeah im in the recovery console | 02:30 |
| bullium | so you'll have limited commands | 02:30 |
| bullium | just a second | 02:30 |
| keeleyt83 | i think i have it | 02:30 |
| keeleyt83 | usr/bin/tail | 02:30 |
| keeleyt83 | and then the man | 02:31 |
| keeleyt83 | i'd try the terminal-safe session but i get the same result as a default session | 02:32 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, sounds like it's having some issues with the video drivers or something...what kind of system/hardware | 02:35 |
| keeleyt83 | sony vaio laptop. vgn-s360 | 02:36 |
| keeleyt83 | hmm it was fine until recently. ive been doing all the updates. nothing out of the ordinary | 02:36 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, oh so your system has been working? | 02:37 |
| keeleyt83 | had been working :) | 02:37 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, this isn't a new install...sorry | 02:37 |
| keeleyt83 | thats correct. np | 02:37 |
| bullium | so did you just do an update and reboot or something? | 02:37 |
| keeleyt83 | i don't believe so. my wife was using it and she said no. she did say that she was running firefox (3, rc2) with a number of tabs open (no idea where she was) and that she didnt close ff before she shut down the machine (using the menu). | 02:39 |
| keeleyt83 | that sounds pretty harmless though | 02:39 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, yeah I agree it seems very harmless...and this is a xubuntu machine wright | 02:41 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, I scrolled up u are no need to answer | 02:42 |
| keeleyt83 | ok | 02:42 |
| bullium | let read your original post again to see if I don't get anymore ides...just a sec | 02:43 |
| keeleyt83 | k | 02:43 |
| bullium | so you get the graphical login prompt? | 02:44 |
| keeleyt83 | yes. and whenever i type in my username and password it starts to login | 02:44 |
| keeleyt83 | then i get a solid light blue background, like i normally get for a few seconds before the background image comes in, but it just stops there | 02:45 |
| keeleyt83 | the mouse cursor is there and responsive | 02:45 |
| bullium | ok, do you have more than one username setup on that maching? | 02:45 |
| bullium | machine | 02:45 |
| keeleyt83 | no | 02:45 |
| keeleyt83 | oh and it asks for my default keyring. thats the last thing it does | 02:46 |
| keeleyt83 | nm-applet asks for it. normally does that | 02:46 |
| bullium | huh...seems like he desktop manager is loading all of the way but the panels are not... | 02:47 |
| keeleyt83 | could be | 02:47 |
| keeleyt83 | when i press c+a+del, it "locks" the desktop. don't know if thats helpful. all other keyboard stuff doesnt seem to work | 02:48 |
| bullium | if you hit CTRL+ALT+F2 do you get a chance to login? | 02:49 |
| keeleyt83 | yes | 02:49 |
| keeleyt83 | k i have a prompt | 02:49 |
| bullium | login and see if you can run top and see the panels process runnin | 02:49 |
| bullium | running | 02:50 |
| keeleyt83 | i logged in but im in the terminal. how do i get to the gui? | 02:50 |
| bullium | i'm not sure if startx will work or not | 02:54 |
| keeleyt83 | ill try it. i just did an apt-get update just in case. restarting now | 02:55 |
| keeleyt83 | ooh. fatal server error: server is already running for display 0. | 02:56 |
| bullium | ok that means it's running...hit CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back to the running screen | 02:58 |
| keeleyt83 | k | 02:59 |
| bullium | do you have the mouse and does it respond? | 02:59 |
| keeleyt83 | i have the mouse but the same issue. for a second, the top of my screen looked messed up, like when you have bad video drivers or a bad resolution. but then it went away after 2 seconds | 03:00 |
| bullium | yeah, mine does that too...hit ALT+F2 do you get the run program? | 03:03 |
| keeleyt83 | yes | 03:03 |
| keeleyt83 | i can start mousepad | 03:04 |
| keeleyt83 | thunar even | 03:04 |
| bullium | try xfce4-panel | 03:04 |
| keeleyt83 | yah! its back | 03:05 |
| keeleyt83 | no background though | 03:05 |
| keeleyt83 | strange | 03:05 |
| bullium | I'm not sure off of the top of my head which app runs the background... | 03:06 |
| keeleyt83 | i was playing with the panel about a week ago. nothing special, though. i just added some launchers for applications | 03:06 |
| keeleyt83 | can i return it to its default settings so maybe it doesnt happen again? | 03:07 |
| bullium | I'm not sure we fixed it...we are just able to start it manually | 03:07 |
| keeleyt83 | thats true | 03:07 |
| bullium | I'm not sure restoring it to default will fix it...if you don't have alot of customization you could restore it to defaults to see what happens | 03:08 |
| keeleyt83 | ok | 03:08 |
| keeleyt83 | how do i restore it to defaults? | 03:09 |
| bullium | lol I knew you were going to ask me...not sure...let me see if I can't figure it out | 03:09 |
| keeleyt83 | k ill look too | 03:10 |
| zoredache | on quick way is to simply create a new account and copy your files over to the other account | 03:10 |
| zoredache | or copy all the config files from the new account back to the old one | 03:10 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, you may want to read up on file:///usr/share/xfce4/doc/C/xfce4-panel.html#panel-intro to see if you can figure out what steps are not working | 03:10 |
| keeleyt83 | i just restarted my machine and the panel is back | 03:11 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, cool | 03:11 |
| keeleyt83 | ive got it set to save the session for next startup, maybe thats what did it | 03:11 |
| bullium | thats possible...do you like that feature? | 03:12 |
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| keeleyt83 | lol i suppose. i hadn't really noticed it until now. i thought i had it set to start a new session each time. | 03:13 |
| bullium | I was just wondering | 03:13 |
| keeleyt83 | np. i love xubuntu. wish i would have installed it on my desktop. very light and zippy. | 03:14 |
| keeleyt83 | my wife's laptop really dogged it whenever i had ubuntu on there | 03:14 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, I really like it as well...runs very fast on this dell 1.2GHZ laptop with 512MB of ram | 03:15 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, yeah ubuntu is a heavier on system resources | 03:15 |
| keeleyt83 | yeah. i like gnome but ive heard its kinda heavyweight | 03:15 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, I run it on newer hardware, but xubuntu is great for me...I'm a huge linux geek anymore | 03:16 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, freedom is a great thing | 03:17 |
| keeleyt83 | i hear you. was a windows user until about november. id started using a lot more opensource stuff and was really digging it. now im running ubuntu on my home machines and just signed on as a jEdit developer :) | 03:18 |
| keeleyt83 | hmm this is interesting. i just went to settings manager>desktop>allow xfce to manage the desktop, and now all my desktop icons and background are back | 03:20 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, so that must have been misconfigured or something... | 03:21 |
| keeleyt83 | should xfce manage it by default? | 03:21 |
| bullium | I would think so...were is that setting and I'll tell you what mines set to | 03:22 |
| keeleyt83 | settings manager>desktop | 03:22 |
| bullium | k | 03:22 |
| bullium | yeah mine is checked | 03:23 |
| keeleyt83 | ah ok. ill have to watch for that. | 03:23 |
| keeleyt83 | well i appreciate all your help, bullium. id like to see anyone get help like this for windows :) | 03:23 |
| bullium | that would be unchecked if you were running compiz-fusion or something...thats the desktop manager that lets you have the fancy desktop effects | 03:24 |
| keeleyt83 | ah i c. i dont use any of those | 03:24 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, than I'd say thats what your issue was... | 03:25 |
| keeleyt83 | alright. well thanks for all your help bullium. | 03:25 |
| bullium | keeleyt83, no problem on the help have a good night | 03:26 |
| keeleyt83 | you too | 03:26 |
| bullium | yep | 03:26 |
| alan___ | Hi, would anyone be willing to help me figure out a networking issue? | 03:47 |
| vidd | alan___, sure....ask away | 03:48 |
| alan___ | So I type sudo smbmount //192.168.1.100/share sharemac/ | 03:49 |
| alan___ | into my xbuntu machine and get, mount error 13 = Permission denied, what's that mean? | 03:49 |
| alan___ | (the goal is to connect to my iMac from the lan connected xubuntu computer) | 03:50 |
| vidd | it would appear that your mac is not giving your xubuntu permission to access the file | 03:50 |
| alan___ | Hmm, ok. So I just double checked my preferences and windows file sharing is enabled. | 03:52 |
| alan___ | And the usernames match up. Why else would the mac deny access? | 03:53 |
| vidd | im not a smb expert....i ftp stuff inside my network | 03:53 |
| alan___ | ok, thanks for your help. I'll keep chugging along. | 03:55 |
| steven_ | hey everyone | 03:55 |
| vidd | hello steven_ | 03:55 |
| steven_ | how can i monitor cpu temp in xubuntu? | 03:56 |
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| steven_ | ii'm stumped | 03:57 |
| vidd | have you searched through sysnaptic? | 03:59 |
| vidd | the "find" feature israther useful | 04:00 |
| steven_ | off and on | 04:00 |
| steven_ | i've used acpi -t | 04:00 |
| steven_ | but | 04:00 |
| steven_ | i want a panel app | 04:00 |
| steven_ | any ideas? | 04:00 |
| vidd | nothing jumps to mind | 04:02 |
| duallain | this thread has someone asking the same question: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636857 | 04:03 |
| vidd | cpu temp was never really anything i cared about =] | 04:03 |
| steven_ | yeah | 04:03 |
| steven_ | well i use bittorrent | 04:03 |
| steven_ | and it runs my cpu at 100% | 04:03 |
| steven_ | for a while | 04:03 |
| steven_ | and i want to monitor the temp | 04:03 |
| steven_ | make sure fan is working and all | 04:03 |
| vidd | did you do a search in synaptic? | 04:04 |
| steven_ | going | 04:05 |
| steven_ | gonna try xfce-sensors-plugin | 04:05 |
| steven_ | it seems to work | 04:05 |
| steven_ | hey another question | 04:06 |
| vidd | yeah? | 04:06 |
| steven_ | anyone in here have a tablet pc? | 04:06 |
| steven_ | i think it's just you and me vidd lol | 04:06 |
| vidd | not for long....i need to hit the rack | 04:07 |
| steven_ | yeah it'slate | 04:07 |
| Odd-rationale | steven_: i have a tablet, so does cody | 04:16 |
| steven_ | cody does? | 04:16 |
| steven_ | good! | 04:16 |
| steven_ | is there a way to adjust pressure on tablet? | 04:16 |
| Odd-rationale | steven_: you might find some usefule things on this wiki page i wrote: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tablet_PC | 04:17 |
| steven_ | and i would like a onscreen keyboard to be present for graphical login | 04:17 |
| Odd-rationale | that in the wiki page ^ | 04:17 |
| Odd-rationale | you need CellWriter, and a plain gdm theme. | 04:17 |
| Odd-rationale | see the last section... | 04:17 |
| steven_ | i tried cellwriter | 04:17 |
| steven_ | how long does it take to get it to recognize? | 04:18 |
| Odd-rationale | how long does what take? | 04:18 |
| steven_ | to get cellwriter to recognize my handsriting? | 04:18 |
| steven_ | i tried for a whike | 04:19 |
| steven_ | *while | 04:19 |
| steven_ | i gave up too soon i think | 04:19 |
| Odd-rationale | steven_: not long. you just need to write each letter once... | 04:19 |
| steven_ | if ubuntu taught me anything, it's keep trying | 04:19 |
| steven_ | LOL | 04:19 |
| Odd-rationale | but for gdm, you would want to use cellwriter as a keyboard | 04:19 |
| Odd-rationale | see the wiki page i posted. it is in there. | 04:20 |
| Odd-rationale | most should be the same for ubuntu. | 04:20 |
| steven_ | okay thx | 04:20 |
| Odd-rationale | i gtg 2 zzz... | 04:20 |
| Odd-rationale | have fun!! | 04:21 |
| MrNaz | if i have a stalled application, how do i kill it, if i dont know the process name? ive got a stuck thunar session which i cant close, but ps aux |grep thunar brings up nothing | 04:32 |
| steven_ | thanks it worked perfectly | 04:47 |
| steven_ | any ?'s | 05:25 |
| efpc2003 | hi | 05:26 |
| steven_ | what's goin on? | 05:29 |
| Trackilizer | Hi guys, need your help. Just installed xubuntu and so far its great. However Xubuntu doesn't automatically mount my Fat32 drive. | 09:56 |
| Trackilizer | The thing is the drive i want to mount doesn't show up in "/etc/fstab" but i know its there because i can access it as soon as i switch to gnome. | 09:59 |
| Myrtti | if it's not in /etc/fstab then it's not there | 10:01 |
| Myrtti | The automounting is a separate process from /etc/fstab | 10:02 |
| Myrtti | as you've noticed | 10:02 |
| Trackilizer | But it shows up when i use this command "sudo fdisk -l" | 10:02 |
| * Myrtti looks at her empty coffee mug | 10:02 | |
| Trackilizer | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System | 10:02 |
| Trackilizer | /dev/sdb1 * 1 14596 117242338+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) | 10:02 |
| ablomen | Trackilizer, sudo mkdir /media/fat <enter> sudo chown USERNAME:USERNAME /media/fat <enter> sudo nano /etc/fstab <enter> add the line: /dev/sdb1 /media/fat vfat defaults 0 0 | 10:10 |
| ablomen | (replace USERNAME to your username on the computer) | 10:11 |
| ablomen | after that, save and exit, then you can mount it without rebooting with sudo mount /media/fat and the next time you boot it will be automagicly mounted | 10:11 |
| ablomen | Myrtti, i know the feeling | 10:12 |
| * ablomen runs to make new coffee | 10:12 | |
| Trackilizer | Thanks a lot ablomen, that seemed to do the trick. | 10:16 |
| ablomen | np :) | 10:16 |
| Myrtti | though, I've got noauto,user | 10:17 |
| Trackilizer | Oh! i still can't write to the disk. Just read. | 10:18 |
| ablomen | Trackilizer, you did chown the dir? | 10:18 |
| Trackilizer | Yes | 10:18 |
| ablomen | Myrtti, yeah but that only means dont mount on mount -a and let the user be able to mount it | 10:19 |
| Myrtti | it also means it won't try to mount it on boot automatically | 10:19 |
| ablomen | yeah :) | 10:19 |
| Myrtti | ie. if the device is absent, as is the case often with usb sticks, external harddrives and so on | 10:19 |
| ablomen | Trackilizer, hmm and if you do ls -l /media/ does it say that your the owner? | 10:20 |
| Trackilizer | drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 32768 1970-01-01 01:00 fat | 10:20 |
| ablomen | heh ok so that didnt go right | 10:21 |
| ablomen | whats your username? | 10:21 |
| Trackilizer | erhard | 10:21 |
| ablomen | ok type: sudo chown erhard:erhard /media/fat | 10:21 |
| Trackilizer | chown: changing ownership of `/media/fat': Operation not permitted | 10:22 |
| ablomen | did you use sudo? | 10:22 |
| Trackilizer | Yes | 10:22 |
| ablomen | hmm | 10:22 |
| ablomen | ok try sudo umount /media/fat and then the last command again | 10:23 |
| Trackilizer | Yes, it worked. I assume i have to mount the drive again? | 10:24 |
| ablomen | yeah | 10:24 |
| Trackilizer | Still can't write, tried using nautilus but doesn't work either. | 10:26 |
| ablomen | hmm | 10:26 |
| ablomen | oh | 10:26 |
| ablomen | Myrtti, you know this?: would it be the that vfat doesnt have any rights-management stuff etc so linux just gives rights on the mount for the username that mounted it? | 10:28 |
| Myrtti | that might be it | 10:28 |
| ablomen | Trackilizer, try putting that noauto,user after defaults on the sdb1 line in fstab | 10:28 |
| Trackilizer | No, still can't write. | 10:30 |
| ablomen | so you get: /dev/sdb1 /media/fat vfat defaults,noauto,user 0 0 | 10:30 |
| Trackilizer | Yes | 10:30 |
| ablomen | then unmount it (sudo unmount /media/fat) | 10:30 |
| ablomen | and then mount in again _without_ sudo (so just: mount /media/fat) | 10:31 |
| Trackilizer | YES! Thanks alot!! that did it! And it will automatically do this every time i boot? | 10:32 |
| Myrtti | Trackilizer: is this harddrive that you're mounting external or internal? | 10:33 |
| Trackilizer | internal | 10:33 |
| Myrtti | in that case... hold on | 10:33 |
| ablomen | well not on boot, but afaik when you click it in nautilus it should automaticly mount now, and otherwise you can add the mount /media/fat command in settings-manager->autostarted applications | 10:34 |
| Myrtti | first, replace noauto with just auto | 10:34 |
| ablomen | Myrtti, wouldnt it mount it as root again then? on boot.. | 10:34 |
| Myrtti | hold on, reading man mount | 10:35 |
| Myrtti | *sigh* | 10:36 |
| Trackilizer | I just added the command to the autostarted applications, I'll reboot now and see how it goes. Thanks a lot guys. | 10:37 |
| ablomen | Myrtti, heh yeah its a big manpage | 10:39 |
| jarnos | Why do I have http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ in each new Firefox 3 window after last update? | 11:09 |
| Myrtti | jarnos: because that is the default homepage in firefox? | 11:11 |
| jarnos | Myrtti: I think I got empty page instead before the last update. (I had problems in quitting FF after the update even it was requested; I used System monitor eventually.) | 11:12 |
| jarnos | Myrtti: But I guess Google is paying for Mozilla foundation to get their search engine popped up in Firefox. | 11:48 |
| Myrtti | jarnos: infact, that's the main source of revenue for Mozilla | 11:48 |
| jarnos | Myrtti: I see. Shame that the page is not specifically made for xubuntu, but (gnome) ubuntu. | 11:51 |
| Myrtti | hm odd | 11:52 |
| ablomen | it should point you to a page on the local filesystem? | 11:57 |
| ablomen | (which is a xubuntu page) | 11:58 |
| Myrtti | it shoudl | 12:09 |
| Myrtti | perhaps they'd know more at #ubuntu-mozilla | 12:09 |
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| Riotta | I wanna switch from xubuntu 32bit to 64bit is there any cons of such switch except flash and java ? | 15:29 |
| Riotta | you think that it's worth switching even if I have less than 4gb of ram | 15:29 |
| Riotta | and Linux is my only system | 15:29 |
| Rioting_pacifist | flash full screen worked fine under gutsy with kwin (not with compiz) under hardy it tears alot (both with kwin & compiz) im on an ATI system using accelerated drivers if its relevant | 15:30 |
| Riotta | tbh ati can be a problem itself Rioting_pacifist | 15:31 |
| Riotta | their drivers are getting better everyday but are generally buggy | 15:31 |
| Riotta | you could upgrade flash to 10beta | 15:32 |
| Riotta | and check if that help | 15:32 |
| Rioting_pacifist | no help, although i have noticed cpu usage drop a bit | 15:32 |
| Riotta | well the strategy with ati is wait for new drivers and update, update, update | 15:34 |
| Rioting_pacifist | ahh so its probably driver related? | 15:34 |
| Riotta | I think so | 15:35 |
| Riotta | maybe bug in randar operations in the dirvers | 15:35 |
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| jarnos | Still about the Firefox home page: I made about:blank homepage in preferences and now everything is fine again. | 16:39 |
| persi | hello, xubuntu loaded without any bars | 17:25 |
| persi | reboot didnt help | 17:25 |
| persi | *cries* | 17:25 |
| TheSheep | persi: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel | 17:27 |
| TheSheep | ' | 17:27 |
| AlexCONRAD | hi, is there a tool to show which package provides what ? instead of asking every time "which package contains nm-tool" ? | 17:27 |
| TheSheep | without the quoates | 17:27 |
| TheSheep | quotes | 17:27 |
| persi | thanks, it worked, what was wrong with it? | 17:28 |
| zoredache_ | AlexCONRAD: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has that information | 17:28 |
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| Myrtti | AlexCONRAD: apt-file | 17:29 |
| TheSheep | persi: the panel must have crashed for some reason. it sometimes does that on low ram systems | 17:29 |
| persi | wow thats offensive, i have whole 256 megs! | 17:30 |
| persi | heh thanks | 17:30 |
| AlexCONRAD | Myrtti: great, thanks, that's a pain killer | 17:32 |
| AlexCONRAD | and thanks zoredache for this ressource | 17:33 |
| AlexCONRAD | its very helpful as well | 17:33 |
| AlexCONRAD | this apt-file search/find thing should really be included in the apt-get app IMO | 17:38 |
| zoredache | AlexCONRAD: I think a couple reasons why it is not is because the databases it creates for the file lists can get big. And not many people really need that functionality. | 17:41 |
| AlexCONRAD | well, maybe at least the binaries | 17:42 |
| AlexCONRAD | well, I get your point anyway | 17:42 |
| AlexCONRAD | what do I need to install to have the screensaver buttun under the xfce settings manager ? | 18:17 |
| Odd-rationale | AlexCONRAD: xscreensaver, or gnome-screensaver | 18:19 |
| Odd-rationale | i think gnome-screensaver is preinstalled with xubuntu.... | 18:19 |
| AlexCONRAD | Odd-rationale: yes, but i'm making a custom xubuntu from scratch, and trying to pin down which packages I need | 18:20 |
| AlexCONRAD | thanks, I'll have a look at these | 18:20 |
| Odd-rationale | AlexCONRAD: if you want lightwieght, go with xscreensaver | 18:23 |
| AlexCONRAD | it's mostly for 3D testing | 18:24 |
| AlexCONRAD | I actually won't install it on the CD | 18:24 |
| AlexCONRAD | but its has more or less complexe 3D stuff | 18:24 |
| AlexCONRAD | with my ATI card | 18:24 |
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| kibibyte | hi | 19:48 |
| kibibyte | do you know any samba shares browser | 19:49 |
| kibibyte | for xubuntu | 19:49 |
| vinnl | kibibyte, this might help: http://www.google.com/search?q=xubuntu%20samba%20browsing | 19:50 |
| vinnl | There are some good solutions online I believe | 19:50 |
| kibibyte | ok | 19:51 |
| kibibyte | which one you use | 19:51 |
| vinnl | I don't use any, but I know others have | 19:51 |
| vinnl | (With success) | 19:51 |
| vinnl | Oh, and I thought there were plans to add native support for Xubuntu 8.10, but you'd have to ask cody-somerville | 19:52 |
| kibibyte | ok | 19:53 |
| Riotta | wow 64bit xubuntu is such painless I thought it gonna be more tricky to install flash and java and win-codecs | 19:54 |
| vinnl | Nice :) | 19:54 |
| kibibyte | i thought there is no flash for 64 bit | 19:55 |
| vinnl | There isn't | 19:55 |
| Riotta | it's working by wrapper program | 19:55 |
| vinnl | nspluginwrapper, right? | 19:55 |
| Riotta | but without any performance degadation | 19:55 |
| Riotta | yes | 19:55 |
| kibibyte | and whay about shockwave | 19:55 |
| vinnl | Hehe, bow to my infinite knowledge :) | 19:56 |
| Riotta | even it was installed automaticly when I installed flash-nonfree for my browser from repos | 19:56 |
| vinnl | kibibyte, that's not possible natively unfortunately :( | 19:56 |
| kibibyte | and whay about shockwave | 19:56 |
| kibibyte | ;/ | 19:56 |
| vinnl | Though I believe you can do that with Wine, but I'm not sure | 19:56 |
| Riotta | I'm just amazed how switft is xubuntu 64 bit I remember some versions ago that there was reall pain to run 32 apps and stuff | 19:57 |
| zoredache | kibibyte: fusesmb is pretty easy to setup. autofs is good, particularly with an executable mount map | 19:59 |
| kibibyte | ok | 19:59 |
| v0lksman | hey all....anyone know why the -19 revision of the kernel (in proposed) would kill sound? I installed linux-headers and linux-image...should I have updated anything else? | 20:09 |
| gaurdro | do you have other updates? | 20:10 |
| gaurdro | on a side note, how stable is -proposed? | 20:11 |
| Jeren | Greetings | 20:12 |
| Jeren | I just installed Xubuntu 8.04. I have correctly configured the network settings (identical to what I had on my Xubuntu 7.10 machine). I can ping and access local IPs but am unable to connect to internet sites. Any ideas why? | 20:13 |
| Riotta | ye | 20:14 |
| Riotta | edit resolv.conf with the same info as you have in other computer | 20:14 |
| Jeren | what is in that file? | 20:14 |
| Riotta | probably didn't catched dns | 20:14 |
| Riotta | servers | 20:14 |
| Jeren | I updated the DNS info in the Network manager thingy | 20:14 |
| Jeren | As well as the static IP info. | 20:15 |
| v0lksman | gaurdro: there are 76 other updates but I don't want them all...Just the kernel cause I heard it (and have confirmed it fixes suspend on my laptop).... | 20:15 |
| Jeren | By the way, I just installed 8.04 over 7.10, so I have no other resolv.conf file to compare it with | 20:15 |
| Riotta | network manager isn't so good for configuring it has it's flaws see if the file isnt empty | 20:15 |
| Jeren | One moment. | 20:15 |
| v0lksman | hrm..not sure what happened to that last line... | 20:15 |
| gaurdro | there's probably an alsa package that you need as well. | 20:16 |
| v0lksman | hrm...yeah actually I checked for Pulse updates but forgot that xcfe still uses alsa...will check...thanks! | 20:17 |
| Jeren | Riotta: resolv.conf has one line. "nameserver " and then its followed by our DNS IP | 20:17 |
| Willeth | does anyone here have experience using rockbox with xubuntu? | 20:17 |
| Riotta | well maybe reboot or restart your modem | 20:17 |
| Jeren | Other computers in the office are online fine | 20:17 |
| Jeren | Including the one I'm on now | 20:17 |
| Riotta | it should be fine I bet it didn't refresh dns entry somehow | 20:19 |
| Jeren | I just finished installation a few minutes ago. The DNS information should be fresh. | 20:19 |
| v0lksman | gaurdro: no updates to alsa in proposed... | 20:20 |
| Jeren | I doubt its a firewall issue, as I said I can already access local IP addresses with ease. | 20:21 |
| Riotta | I had once similar problem | 20:22 |
| Jeren | How did you resolve it? | 20:22 |
| Riotta | and I restarted modem and it worked fine then | 20:22 |
| Riotta | try rebooting maybe or it didn't helped ? | 20:22 |
| Jeren | I rebooted the system twice already. | 20:22 |
| Riotta | k | 20:23 |
| zoredache | Jeren: are you sure you got the default gateway set correctly? | 20:23 |
| Riotta | how you are connecting to the network ? | 20:23 |
| Riotta | by ethernet card ? | 20:23 |
| Jeren | The network information is correct, yes. The Static IP, Gateway, and Mask are all accurate. | 20:24 |
| Jeren | Yes | 20:24 |
| Riotta | you know the brand of that card ? | 20:24 |
| zoredache | have you tried doing a traceroute? | 20:24 |
| v0lksman | can you ping anything by IP offnet (IE out of your LAN)...? | 20:25 |
| Jeren | One sec | 20:25 |
| v0lksman | 64.233.167.99 | 20:25 |
| v0lksman | dats google... ;) | 20:25 |
| Jeren | The server's in the back end of the office | 20:25 |
| Jeren | I'll be right back | 20:25 |
| Jeren | That IP is unreachable. | 20:26 |
| Jeren | The brand of the card is... NetGear, I believe. | 20:27 |
| Jeren | Its worked fine for the past three months | 20:27 |
| zoredache | do a traceroute now instead of a ping to see where it is failing | 20:27 |
| zoredache | so 'mtr 64.233.167.99' | 20:27 |
| Jeren | Same IP? | 20:27 |
| Jeren | Google's? | 20:27 |
| v0lksman | yep...that would do | 20:27 |
| zoredache | doesn't really matter... anything outside your network that is up and allows icmp will give useful results | 20:28 |
| Jeren | The "My Traceroute" screen comes up, but no data goes into the table. | 20:29 |
| v0lksman | can you try command line? not sure what you are looking at....can you also try to ping you gateway while you are there.... | 20:31 |
| zoredache | you said you staticly set your address? Are you completely sure that nothing else on your network is using the same address? | 20:32 |
| TheSheep | use arping to find out | 20:32 |
| Jeren | Yes, I am. | 20:32 |
| Jeren | I'll give that a go. | 20:33 |
| v0lksman | brb... | 20:33 |
| Jeren | How can I do a traceroute without mtr, by the way? | 20:33 |
| TheSheep | Jeren: tracepath | 20:33 |
| Jeren | Thanks. brb | 20:35 |
| Jeren | Ok... | 20:37 |
| Jeren | Tracepath said "send failed" | 20:37 |
| v0lksman | sweet...got sound back..missed a couple kernel updates that were needed... | 20:37 |
| Jeren | Arping gave me a warning: "Interface is ignored: Operation not permitted" | 20:37 |
| v0lksman | were you able to ping your gateway? | 20:38 |
| TheSheep | Jeren: sudo | 20:39 |
| Jeren | One sec | 20:41 |
| Jeren | Pinging my gateway is fine | 20:41 |
| Jeren | Same response for Tracepath | 20:43 |
| Jeren | Arping, 50 probes sent, 0 responses | 20:43 |
| zoredache | can you tell us what your ip address/mask/gw is? | 20:44 |
| zoredache | feel free to say no if it isn't rfc1918 space | 20:44 |
| Jeren | Its nothing that'd breach security ;) | 20:45 |
| Jeren | Static ip: 192.168.1.185 / Mask: 255.255.255.0 / GW: 192.168.1.1 | 20:46 |
| xxTheSaintxx | Hello guys, My network is *Fucked* wireless people cannot connect to it | 20:46 |
| xxTheSaintxx | Just wondering if anyone knew what to do/ | 20:46 |
| zoredache | so if you use the command 'route -n' do you see anything with a destination of '0.0.0.0' | 20:46 |
| xxTheSaintxx | im on windows atm | 20:47 |
| xxTheSaintxx | But i got a xubuntu lappy | 20:47 |
| TheSheep | cody-somerville: ping | 20:47 |
| xxTheSaintxx | but all wireless computers cannot connect | 20:47 |
| xxTheSaintxx | Thats why we got to use enthernet lead | 20:47 |
| TheSheep | xxTheSaintxx: looks like some trouble with the access point or beyound | 20:48 |
| xxTheSaintxx | How would ya fix that? | 20:48 |
| cody-somerville | The_Kernel, pong | 20:48 |
| cody-somerville | TheSheep, pong | 20:48 |
| TheSheep | cody-somerville: do you know if we have the sources of that xubuntu release image on the xobunut.org? | 20:49 |
| TheSheep | cody-somerville: the Czech guys who did the new theme asked for it | 20:49 |
| TheSheep | cody-somerville: I forgot to ask earlier | 20:50 |
| Jeren | zoredache: Nothing with a destination of 0.0.0.0. The only entry is Destination 192.168.1.0, with a gateway of 0.0.0.0 | 20:50 |
| zoredache | Jeren: that would indicate your default gateway didn't get set up properly... | 20:51 |
| cody-somerville | TheSheep, Not sure what you mean but I gotta jet. | 20:51 |
| zoredache | as a test try running the command 'route add default gw 192.168.1.1' then try pinging something again | 20:51 |
| cody-somerville | TheSheep, please e-mail me | 20:51 |
| TheSheep | cody-somerville: ok, thanks | 20:51 |
| Jeren | Zoredache: Thanks. My box can actually be useful now <_< That seemed to fix it. | 20:54 |
| zoredache | Jeren: that 'fix' is only temporary. It will be lost if/when you reboot or change your network config | 20:55 |
| v0lksman | it won't stick after a reboot though...you should take a peak at your /etc/network/interfaces and be 10000% sure your gateway is correct | 20:55 |
| Jeren | Alright | 20:55 |
| Jeren | I'll go do that now. | 20:55 |
| Jeren | One sec. | 20:55 |
| Jeren | Ok, I just went in and confirmed whats in /etc/network/interfaces. It looks accurate. | 21:00 |
| Riotta | hey guys | 21:26 |
| Riotta | I need help kinda | 21:26 |
| Nece228 | we listen :D | 21:26 |
| Riotta | I installed xubuntu amd64 from scrach (ive been using (x)ubuntu 32bit for sometime only updating via update manager | 21:26 |
| Riotta | and I notice something | 21:27 |
| Riotta | which troubles me | 21:27 |
| Riotta | I notice that actually I had nothing to do with screen/keyboard/mouse configuration | 21:27 |
| Riotta | all were detected more than well | 21:27 |
| Riotta | even my mouse has all 8 buttons working | 21:27 |
| Riotta | in firefox etc | 21:27 |
| Riotta | but... | 21:28 |
| Riotta | what troubles me | 21:28 |
| zoredache | !enter | 21:28 |
| ubottu | Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! | 21:28 |
| Riotta | where xubuntu store that info | 21:28 |
| zoredache | what do you mean where does it store it? If you didn a clean install and wiped the drive it wasn't stored at all | 21:28 |
| Riotta | it would be obvious that xorg.conf will be the file I need but I entered it and it was kinda not configured not many options there if you see my old xorg.conf file | 21:29 |
| Nece228 | mouse keyboard screen info are stored in xorg.conf | 21:29 |
| Riotta | it should be | 21:29 |
| zoredache | Riotta: xorg now auto-detects a lot of things | 21:29 |
| Nece228 | you used xubuntu 7.10 before? | 21:29 |
| Riotta | but it's nothing there ok there is some things | 21:29 |
| TheSheep | recently a lot of defaults are just autodetected each time X starts, so they don't have to be put into xorg.conf anymore | 21:30 |
| Riotta | I used since 6.10 | 21:30 |
| Riotta | updatet always | 21:30 |
| Nece228 | that because 8.04 is LTS which means that it have new drivers | 21:30 |
| Riotta | via update-manager so I didn't notice any change if you know what I mean (sorry for enters) | 21:30 |
| Riotta | xorg.conf if you will view it it's almost empty (you know I used to edit alot this file in a past and I know those settings not set too many things) | 21:31 |
| Riotta | and I was thinking if ubuntu changed place for such things | 21:32 |
| Riotta | or something | 21:32 |
| Riotta | cause everything is configured but actually nowhere it's written, nowhere that I know | 21:32 |
| Nece228 | bye | 21:33 |
| Riotta | cya | 21:33 |
| Jeren | Ok... | 21:48 |
| Jeren | So, while trying to install Webmin, my box froze. I restarted, and now I'm missing the task panels at the top and bottom of the screens. o.o | 21:49 |
| Jeren | How can I get them back? | 21:51 |
| Volkodav | another restart | 21:52 |
| Volkodav | windoze way | 21:52 |
| Jeren | Um | 21:52 |
| Jeren | Yea, tried three | 21:52 |
| Jeren | No luck. | 21:52 |
| Jeren | Anything else? | 21:52 |
| Volkodav | heh | 21:52 |
| Volkodav | uninstall webmin | 21:53 |
| Jeren | How? | 21:53 |
| Jeren | I don't even know if it installed | 21:53 |
| Volkodav | apt-get remove wemin --purge | 21:53 |
| Volkodav | webmin* | 21:53 |
| Jeren | One sec | 21:53 |
| Jeren | Yea, webmin package not installed. | 21:54 |
| Jeren | I think the package installer froze before it did anything. | 21:54 |
| Volkodav | so it was never installed | 21:54 |
| Jeren | Right | 21:54 |
| Volkodav | install from cli | 21:55 |
| Volkodav | it is better | 21:55 |
| Jeren | Instead of using the .deb on the site? | 21:55 |
| Volkodav | yeah - see if there is one in repos | 21:55 |
| Jeren | I'm more of a Windows user, so forgive me if I don't follow everything <_< | 21:56 |
| Volkodav | it's ok | 21:56 |
| Jeren | I'm familiar with apt | 21:56 |
| Jeren | if that's what you're referring to | 21:56 |
| Volkodav | sudo apt-cache search webmin | 21:56 |
| Jeren | ok | 21:57 |
| Jeren | And then? | 21:58 |
| Volkodav | do you see the webmin in the bunch? | 21:58 |
| Jeren | It didn't output anything when I typed that | 21:59 |
| Jeren | Just returned me to the command prompt | 21:59 |
| Volkodav | it should | 21:59 |
| Volkodav | open up the terminal | 21:59 |
| Jeren | Terminal window is up | 21:59 |
| Jeren | If it wasn't, I wouldn't know how to open another one | 21:59 |
| Volkodav | sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search webmin | 22:00 |
| Jeren | ok | 22:00 |
| Jeren | Went through the update completely, but again returns nothing for the cache search | 22:01 |
| Volkodav | you need to activate more repos in apt | 22:01 |
| Volkodav | looks like | 22:02 |
| Volkodav | open up add/remove | 22:02 |
| Jeren | And the best way of doing that would be...? <.< | 22:02 |
| Jeren | Um | 22:02 |
| Jeren | If I still have the task bars at the top and bottom of the screen, I would... | 22:02 |
| Volkodav | in Show what do you have? | 22:02 |
| Jeren | How do I get to that otherwise? | 22:02 |
| Volkodav | it should be in system | 22:03 |
| Volkodav | system==> add/remove | 22:03 |
| Volkodav | I believe | 22:03 |
| Volkodav | add remove programms | 22:04 |
| Jeren | As I've said | 22:04 |
| Jeren | The task bars are gone. | 22:04 |
| Jeren | I can't get to the menus | 22:04 |
| Volkodav | right click on the desktop | 22:04 |
| Jeren | Ok | 22:04 |
| Volkodav | do you get the menu? | 22:05 |
| Jeren | I get options to create a launcher, URL link, Folder, and "From Template", as well as a link to "Desktop Settings" | 22:06 |
| thinkmassive | how can I change the default dimensions for xfce4-terminal? | 22:06 |
| Volkodav | "Desktop Settings" | 22:07 |
| Jeren | ok | 22:07 |
| Volkodav | xfdesktop4<== run that from terminal | 22:08 |
| Jeren | I'm at Desktop Settings now | 22:08 |
| Volkodav | close that and run xfdesktop4 from terminal | 22:09 |
| Jeren | ok | 22:09 |
| Jeren | Command not found | 22:09 |
| Volkodav | sudo xfdesktop4 | 22:10 |
| Jeren | Command not found | 22:11 |
| Volkodav | sudo xfwm4 | 22:11 |
| Jeren | "Warning: Another window manager is already running" | 22:11 |
| Volkodav | so you need to kill the other one | 22:12 |
| Jeren | how? | 22:12 |
| Volkodav | sudo killall -9 xfdesktop4 | 22:12 |
| Jeren | no process killed | 22:13 |
| Volkodav | sudo killall -9 xfwm4 | 22:13 |
| Jeren | Ok, I just lost all my open windows | 22:14 |
| Jeren | And I'm looking at a blank desktop | 22:14 |
| Volkodav | that's ok | 22:14 |
| Volkodav | do sudo xfwm4 | 22:14 |
| Jeren | where? My terminal windows are closed. | 22:14 |
| Jeren | How do I open one? | 22:14 |
| Volkodav | right click | 22:14 |
| Jeren | right click isn't working anymore | 22:14 |
| Volkodav | reboot and come back | 22:15 |
| Volkodav | I'll walk you trough | 22:15 |
| Jeren | Ok | 22:15 |
| Jeren | Rebooting it now | 22:15 |
| Jeren | One sec | 22:15 |
| Jeren | Its amazing how troublesome this all is... and I just installed it :\ | 22:15 |
| thinkmassive | what about alt-f2 ? | 22:17 |
| Jeren | Ok, I'm back at the login screen | 22:17 |
| Volkodav | good | 22:17 |
| Volkodav | login | 22:17 |
| Volkodav | thinkmassive, what seems to be troublesome? | 22:17 |
| thinkmassive | nothing, I was just suggesting an alternative to rebooting | 22:18 |
| Volkodav | which is? | 22:18 |
| Jeren | [thinkmassive] what about alt-f2 ? | 22:18 |
| thinkmassive | doesn't really matter know | 22:18 |
| Jeren | Ok, I logged in | 22:18 |
| thinkmassive | I would like to know how to set the default dimensions of xfce4-terminal though | 22:18 |
| Volkodav | getting out of X - are you ready for it? | 22:19 |
| Jeren | My Firefox session restarted, but other than that, I have nothing | 22:19 |
| Jeren | Right click only works in the FF window. The rest of the background is some light blue | 22:19 |
| Volkodav | open up terminal | 22:19 |
| Jeren | Again, how? | 22:19 |
| Volkodav | it is in accessories | 22:20 |
| Jeren | Again | 22:20 |
| Jeren | I don't have any menus/taskbars | 22:20 |
| Jeren | and now I don't even have the typical desktop I had since installing this two hours ago | 22:20 |
| Volkodav | can you right click on the desktop? | 22:21 |
| Jeren | nope | 22:21 |
| Jeren | I have absolutely nothing. | 22:21 |
| TheSheep | Jeren: press alt+f2, does a window come up? | 22:21 |
| Jeren | An input box, a check box for "Run in Terminal", and a Run button | 22:22 |
| Jeren | So, yes | 22:22 |
| TheSheep | Jeren: type 'xfce4-panel' in there | 22:22 |
| Volkodav | xfdesktop | 22:22 |
| TheSheep | without quotes, and press enter | 22:22 |
| Jeren | Ok, xfce4-panel just restored my top and bottom panels | 22:22 |
| TheSheep | then xfdesktop, yes | 22:22 |
| Jeren | And xfdesktop restored the rest | 22:22 |
| Volkodav | xfwm4 | 22:23 |
| TheSheep | Volkodav: that's already runnin | 22:23 |
| TheSheep | Volkodav: that's what displays the run dialog :) | 22:23 |
| Jeren | Ok | 22:23 |
| Jeren | Now, what do I need to do with the repos again? | 22:23 |
| thinkmassive | TheSheep: do you know how to change the default dimensions of xfce4-terminal? | 22:24 |
| TheSheep | thinkmassive: sure, edit the config file in ~/.config/terminal | 22:24 |
| thinkmassive | awesome, thanks! | 22:25 |
| thinkmassive | that option is inconveniently missing from the gui preferences | 22:26 |
| Volkodav | heh | 22:26 |
| Volkodav | gui-eywey | 22:26 |
| TheSheep | thinkmassive: there are much more of them missing from the gui :) | 22:27 |
| Volkodav | there was no gui in the first place | 22:27 |
| thinkmassive | I noticed | 22:28 |
| Jeren | Volkodav, what do I need to do regarding the repos now? | 22:28 |
| thinkmassive | Volkodav: actually there was, hence the name xterm | 22:28 |
| Volkodav | I would activate all open source | 22:28 |
| Jeren | Under "Software Sources"? | 22:28 |
| Volkodav | thinkmassive, - think twice | 22:28 |
| thinkmassive | I prefer to do things right the first time | 22:30 |
| Volkodav | drop the button | 22:30 |
| Volkodav | see what else is available axcept supported apps | 22:30 |
| Jeren | Nothing is coming in for Third party apps | 22:31 |
| Jeren | Oh | 22:31 |
| Jeren | Open Source | 22:31 |
| Jeren | hang on | 22:31 |
| Volkodav | what about All available applicattions? | 22:31 |
| Jeren | No Webmin | 22:31 |
| Jeren | I'm afraid to try the .deb package again, for fear it'll freeze and cause this all over again | 22:32 |
| Volkodav | did you activate all available though? | 22:32 |
| Jeren | Activate what? | 22:32 |
| Jeren | I'm in the "All Available Applications" drop down | 22:32 |
| Volkodav | and there is no webmin comes up ? | 22:32 |
| Jeren | nope | 22:32 |
| Volkodav | link me to the deb package | 22:33 |
| Jeren | http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/webadmin/webmin_1.420_all.deb | 22:33 |
| Volkodav | from the site | 22:33 |
| Jeren | link is on : http://www.webmin.com/download.html | 22:33 |
| Jeren | Question | 22:34 |
| Volkodav | 12 | 22:34 |
| Jeren | windows that are opening up no longer appear in the middle but are locked to the top left of my desktop | 22:34 |
| Jeren | How can I fix that? | 22:34 |
| Volkodav | window behaviour | 22:34 |
| Volkodav | in settings | 22:34 |
| Jeren | "These settings cannot work with your current window manager (unknown)" | 22:35 |
| Jeren | What the hell? | 22:35 |
| * Jeren is getting more and more frustrated | 22:35 | |
| Volkodav | did you untar webm in package ? | 22:37 |
| Jeren | I double clicked on the .deb package. The package thing came up. I then clicked on "Install Package", and thats when it froze. | 22:38 |
| Volkodav | well | 22:38 |
| Volkodav | my friend - it is a compressed package | 22:38 |
| Volkodav | you need to "unzip" it first | 22:39 |
| Jeren | If it needed to be decompressed, I'm sure it would've said something | 22:39 |
| Volkodav | in windoze it might | 22:39 |
| Jeren | It lists the included files in the package already as is, plus gives me the option to install it. | 22:39 |
| Volkodav | not on the bright side | 22:39 |
| Jeren | But I'm not running that on windows | 22:39 |
| Volkodav | yeah - you opened it in some sort of archive mode file like squezze or whatever | 22:40 |
| Jeren | I opened the .deb file with | 22:40 |
| Jeren | gdebi-gtk 0.3.8 | 22:40 |
| Volkodav | you need to right click on that file and choose extract here | 22:41 |
| Volkodav | or similar | 22:41 |
| Jeren | You'd think it'd catch if it needs to be decompressed. I've had it catch package dependencies before. | 22:41 |
| Jeren | There is no extract option | 22:41 |
| Volkodav | then cd to the new folder directory and start install from there? | 22:41 |
| Volkodav | Am I making myself clear? | 22:42 |
| Jeren | I do believe so. | 22:42 |
| Jeren | Though how do you tell a compressed .deb from a noncompressed one? | 22:42 |
| Volkodav | I have this package here on my box as we speak | 22:42 |
| Jeren | I've taken package files and installed them straight before | 22:42 |
| Volkodav | and just extracted it | 22:43 |
| Volkodav | time to roll to install | 22:43 |
| Volkodav | I can show you the folder | 22:43 |
| Volkodav | what's the folder's name you start the install from? | 22:44 |
| Jeren | I just restarted the box and tried installing from the package directly. It seems to have worked this time. | 22:44 |
| Volkodav | well it's all good then! | 22:45 |
| Jeren | Thankfully | 22:45 |
| Volkodav | good luck with webmin | 22:45 |
| Jeren | though I wish things were good three hours ago when I finished installing Xubuntu >_< | 22:45 |
| Jeren | I'm getting nothing done at work today :( | 22:45 |
| Jeren | Now I just need to find a way to set up a VNC server and get FTP working on this thing | 22:46 |
| zoredache | why ftp? sftp is 'secure', and extremely easy to setup | 22:47 |
| Volkodav | iinstall gftp | 22:48 |
| Volkodav | VNC is easy too | 22:48 |
| zoredache | vnc is also easy to setup. Though I suggest tunneling that through ssh | 22:48 |
| Volkodav | zoredache, - Ace | 22:49 |
| Jeren | I'm just looking for ways of remotely working on this machine | 22:49 |
| Jeren | FTP or SFTP works for me, as long as I can transfer files | 22:49 |
| zoredache | so all you really should need to do is install openssh-server and x11vnc | 22:49 |
| Jeren | Ok | 22:49 |
| Jeren | hmm... | 22:50 |
| Volkodav | ftp suxorz since all passwords are transmitted in open | 22:50 |
| Jeren | "Unable to quit session. Quitting the session requires that Xfce's session manager (xfcer-session) is running, but it was not detected. Please quit Xfce via another means." | 22:50 |
| zoredache | ftp also sucks because it is far more difficult to get through firewalls | 22:50 |
| Jeren | Picky little bugger... | 22:50 |
| Volkodav | ssh is the way to go | 22:50 |
| Volkodav | ssh2 | 22:50 |
| Volkodav | scp | 22:51 |
| Volkodav | no ftp | 22:51 |
| thinkmassive | sftp works just as well if all you need to do is transfer files | 22:51 |
| Jeren | How can I shutdown without the use of the Quit button? <.< | 22:51 |
| Jeren | Or do I just need to power it off? | 22:51 |
| zoredache | Jeren: in a terminal use the command 'shutdown -h now' | 22:52 |
| zoredache | err.. 'sudo shutdown -h now' | 22:52 |
| Jeren | thanks | 22:52 |
| Jeren | So, SFTP is recommended over FTP | 22:52 |
| djouallah | hi did wubi is included with xubuntu 8.04 | 22:52 |
| zoredache | Jeren: there still are a few good reasons to use ftp. Anonymous file repositories for example... For transfering things to your home computer though sftp/ssh is strongly reccomended at least by me.. | 22:54 |
| thinkmassive | yes, sftp is ftp tunneled over ssh | 22:54 |
| Jeren | Well, this box is not going to be public. | 22:54 |
| thinkmassive | if it's connected to the internet then it's public | 22:54 |
| Jeren | It'll be testing and deploying some network monitoring software I'm working on. I just need file transfer access to upload files to the web server | 22:54 |
| thinkmassive | unless you have a good firewall on your perimeter | 22:54 |
| Jeren | meh | 22:55 |
| Jeren | How do I permanently fix XFce? :\ | 22:55 |
| TheSheep | jasave the session when logging out | 22:57 |
| TheSheep | Jeren: ^ | 22:57 |
| Jeren | I did. But when the computer restarted, it came up with the light blue background and no panels again. | 22:57 |
| Jeren | And the windows are still locked in the corner... Need to change that, too | 22:57 |
| Jeren | Meh | 22:59 |
| Jeren | Why does it matter what window manager I'm using? How can I be using more than XFCE? STupid thing... | 22:59 |
| Jeren | I just want to tweak some settings... | 23:00 |
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