[00:16] AlexCONRAD: jockey i think... [00:16] Odd-rationale: yes, thanks, someone pointed me that: jockey-gtk [00:20] hey all, i'm using a toshiba gigabeat f40 DAP with rocbox installed, and it doesn't seem to want to mount under eeexubuntu - can anyone give me any pointers? [00:51] what is the command to start xfce ??? [01:01] Anyone buy those Dell laptops wit Ubuntu on 'em? [01:01] zoredache didn't you say that you bought one? [01:07] yes [01:07] I have an inspiron 1505 [01:07] OK [01:07] The one I plan to get [01:08] or...rather...the 1525N is the one I'm getting [01:56] does the window manager allow you to change the keyboard shortcuts, or is it just a "view only" screen? [01:57] nevermind I got it :) just use the add function and add a custom theme [01:57] thanks anyway' [02:03] i just got xubuntu installed. how do i get the gui to work? [02:03] i'm getting a -bash: startx: command not found [02:04] xTOGx, did the install complete without any errors? [02:04] it wouldn't do the software bit [02:06] is there a way i can finish that now? [02:08] was your network connection not detected during the install? [02:11] network connection went fine [02:11] i'm pretty sure it's connected now [02:11] not sure how to tell [02:15] type sudo ifconfig -a what is the output of that? [02:19] i can log into xubuntu but the desktop doesn't appear to load. can anyone help? [02:20] im running 8.04 [02:22] keeleyt83, what kind of error do you get. what are the steps you are taking to see if the gui can be manually started? [02:24] i dont get any error. whenever i login normally, the harddrive is spinning like its working but then it stops and nothing loads. the cursor is there but nothing else [02:24] ive tried starting gnome-safe but the same thing [02:24] im rather new to linux so i havent tried to start manually [02:25] tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log what is the output of that? [02:26] k 1 sec [02:28] says no such file or directory. i ran it as root from recovery mode, fyi [02:29] keeleyt83, oh ok, just whereis tail and see if it's on your system [02:30] your probably using busybox though right? [02:30] I mean it's a recovery console [02:30] yeah im in the recovery console [02:30] so you'll have limited commands [02:30] just a second [02:30] i think i have it [02:30] usr/bin/tail [02:31] and then the man [02:32] i'd try the terminal-safe session but i get the same result as a default session [02:35] keeleyt83, sounds like it's having some issues with the video drivers or something...what kind of system/hardware [02:36] sony vaio laptop. vgn-s360 [02:36] hmm it was fine until recently. ive been doing all the updates. nothing out of the ordinary [02:37] keeleyt83, oh so your system has been working? [02:37] had been working :) [02:37] keeleyt83, this isn't a new install...sorry [02:37] thats correct. np [02:37] so did you just do an update and reboot or something? [02:39] i don't believe so. my wife was using it and she said no. she did say that she was running firefox (3, rc2) with a number of tabs open (no idea where she was) and that she didnt close ff before she shut down the machine (using the menu). [02:39] that sounds pretty harmless though [02:41] keeleyt83, yeah I agree it seems very harmless...and this is a xubuntu machine wright [02:42] keeleyt83, I scrolled up u are no need to answer [02:42] ok [02:43] let read your original post again to see if I don't get anymore ides...just a sec [02:43] k [02:44] so you get the graphical login prompt? [02:44] yes. and whenever i type in my username and password it starts to login [02:45] then i get a solid light blue background, like i normally get for a few seconds before the background image comes in, but it just stops there [02:45] the mouse cursor is there and responsive [02:45] ok, do you have more than one username setup on that maching? [02:45] machine [02:45] no [02:46] oh and it asks for my default keyring. thats the last thing it does [02:46] nm-applet asks for it. normally does that [02:47] huh...seems like he desktop manager is loading all of the way but the panels are not... [02:47] could be [02:48] when i press c+a+del, it "locks" the desktop. don't know if thats helpful. all other keyboard stuff doesnt seem to work [02:49] if you hit CTRL+ALT+F2 do you get a chance to login? [02:49] yes [02:49] k i have a prompt [02:49] login and see if you can run top and see the panels process runnin [02:50] running [02:50] i logged in but im in the terminal. how do i get to the gui? [02:54] i'm not sure if startx will work or not [02:55] ill try it. i just did an apt-get update just in case. restarting now [02:56] ooh. fatal server error: server is already running for display 0. [02:58] ok that means it's running...hit CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back to the running screen [02:59] k [02:59] do you have the mouse and does it respond? [03:00] i have the mouse but the same issue. for a second, the top of my screen looked messed up, like when you have bad video drivers or a bad resolution. but then it went away after 2 seconds [03:03] yeah, mine does that too...hit ALT+F2 do you get the run program? [03:03] yes [03:04] i can start mousepad [03:04] thunar even [03:04] try xfce4-panel [03:05] yah! its back [03:05] no background though [03:05] strange [03:06] I'm not sure off of the top of my head which app runs the background... [03:06] i was playing with the panel about a week ago. nothing special, though. i just added some launchers for applications [03:07] can i return it to its default settings so maybe it doesnt happen again? [03:07] I'm not sure we fixed it...we are just able to start it manually [03:07] thats true [03:08] I'm not sure restoring it to default will fix it...if you don't have alot of customization you could restore it to defaults to see what happens [03:08] ok [03:09] how do i restore it to defaults? [03:09] lol I knew you were going to ask me...not sure...let me see if I can't figure it out [03:10] k ill look too [03:10] on quick way is to simply create a new account and copy your files over to the other account [03:10] or copy all the config files from the new account back to the old one [03:10] keeleyt83, you may want to read up on file:///usr/share/xfce4/doc/C/xfce4-panel.html#panel-intro to see if you can figure out what steps are not working [03:11] i just restarted my machine and the panel is back [03:11] keeleyt83, cool [03:11] ive got it set to save the session for next startup, maybe thats what did it [03:12] thats possible...do you like that feature? === Odd-rationale_ is now known as Odd-rationale [03:13] lol i suppose. i hadn't really noticed it until now. i thought i had it set to start a new session each time. [03:13] I was just wondering [03:14] np. i love xubuntu. wish i would have installed it on my desktop. very light and zippy. [03:14] my wife's laptop really dogged it whenever i had ubuntu on there [03:15] keeleyt83, I really like it as well...runs very fast on this dell 1.2GHZ laptop with 512MB of ram [03:15] keeleyt83, yeah ubuntu is a heavier on system resources [03:15] yeah. i like gnome but ive heard its kinda heavyweight [03:16] keeleyt83, I run it on newer hardware, but xubuntu is great for me...I'm a huge linux geek anymore [03:17] keeleyt83, freedom is a great thing [03:18] i hear you. was a windows user until about november. id started using a lot more opensource stuff and was really digging it. now im running ubuntu on my home machines and just signed on as a jEdit developer :) [03:20] hmm this is interesting. i just went to settings manager>desktop>allow xfce to manage the desktop, and now all my desktop icons and background are back [03:21] keeleyt83, so that must have been misconfigured or something... [03:21] should xfce manage it by default? [03:22] I would think so...were is that setting and I'll tell you what mines set to [03:22] settings manager>desktop [03:22] k [03:23] yeah mine is checked [03:23] ah ok. ill have to watch for that. [03:23] well i appreciate all your help, bullium. id like to see anyone get help like this for windows :) [03:24] that would be unchecked if you were running compiz-fusion or something...thats the desktop manager that lets you have the fancy desktop effects [03:24] ah i c. i dont use any of those [03:25] keeleyt83, than I'd say thats what your issue was... [03:25] alright. well thanks for all your help bullium. [03:26] keeleyt83, no problem on the help have a good night [03:26] you too [03:26] yep [03:47] Hi, would anyone be willing to help me figure out a networking issue? [03:48] alan___, sure....ask away [03:49] So I type sudo smbmount //192.168.1.100/share sharemac/ [03:49] into my xbuntu machine and get, mount error 13 = Permission denied, what's that mean? [03:50] (the goal is to connect to my iMac from the lan connected xubuntu computer) [03:50] it would appear that your mac is not giving your xubuntu permission to access the file [03:52] Hmm, ok. So I just double checked my preferences and windows file sharing is enabled. [03:53] And the usernames match up. Why else would the mac deny access? [03:53] im not a smb expert....i ftp stuff inside my network [03:55] ok, thanks for your help. I'll keep chugging along. [03:55] hey everyone [03:55] hello steven_ [03:56] how can i monitor cpu temp in xubuntu? === alan___ is now known as duallain [03:57] ii'm stumped [03:59] have you searched through sysnaptic? [04:00] the "find" feature israther useful [04:00] off and on [04:00] i've used acpi -t [04:00] but [04:00] i want a panel app [04:00] any ideas? [04:02] nothing jumps to mind [04:03] this thread has someone asking the same question: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636857 [04:03] cpu temp was never really anything i cared about =] [04:03] yeah [04:03] well i use bittorrent [04:03] and it runs my cpu at 100% [04:03] for a while [04:03] and i want to monitor the temp [04:03] make sure fan is working and all [04:04] did you do a search in synaptic? [04:05] going [04:05] gonna try xfce-sensors-plugin [04:05] it seems to work [04:06] hey another question [04:06] yeah? [04:06] anyone in here have a tablet pc? [04:06] i think it's just you and me vidd lol [04:07] not for long....i need to hit the rack [04:07] yeah it'slate [04:16] steven_: i have a tablet, so does cody [04:16] cody does? [04:16] good! [04:16] is there a way to adjust pressure on tablet? [04:17] steven_: you might find some usefule things on this wiki page i wrote: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tablet_PC [04:17] and i would like a onscreen keyboard to be present for graphical login [04:17] that in the wiki page ^ [04:17] you need CellWriter, and a plain gdm theme. [04:17] see the last section... [04:17] i tried cellwriter [04:18] how long does it take to get it to recognize? [04:18] how long does what take? [04:18] to get cellwriter to recognize my handsriting? [04:19] i tried for a whike [04:19] *while [04:19] i gave up too soon i think [04:19] steven_: not long. you just need to write each letter once... [04:19] if ubuntu taught me anything, it's keep trying [04:19] LOL [04:19] but for gdm, you would want to use cellwriter as a keyboard [04:20] see the wiki page i posted. it is in there. [04:20] most should be the same for ubuntu. [04:20] okay thx [04:20] i gtg 2 zzz... [04:21] have fun!! [04:32] if i have a stalled application, how do i kill it, if i dont know the process name? ive got a stuck thunar session which i cant close, but ps aux |grep thunar brings up nothing [04:47] thanks it worked perfectly [05:25] any ?'s [05:26] hi [05:29] what's goin on? [09:56] Hi guys, need your help. Just installed xubuntu and so far its great. However Xubuntu doesn't automatically mount my Fat32 drive. [09:59] The thing is the drive i want to mount doesn't show up in "/etc/fstab" but i know its there because i can access it as soon as i switch to gnome. [10:01] if it's not in /etc/fstab then it's not there [10:02] The automounting is a separate process from /etc/fstab [10:02] as you've noticed [10:02] But it shows up when i use this command "sudo fdisk -l" [10:02] * Myrtti looks at her empty coffee mug [10:02] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [10:02] /dev/sdb1 * 1 14596 117242338+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA) [10:10] Trackilizer, sudo mkdir /media/fat sudo chown USERNAME:USERNAME /media/fat sudo nano /etc/fstab add the line: /dev/sdb1 /media/fat vfat defaults 0 0 [10:11] (replace USERNAME to your username on the computer) [10:11] after that, save and exit, then you can mount it without rebooting with sudo mount /media/fat and the next time you boot it will be automagicly mounted [10:12] Myrtti, i know the feeling [10:12] * ablomen runs to make new coffee [10:16] Thanks a lot ablomen, that seemed to do the trick. [10:16] np :) [10:17] though, I've got noauto,user [10:18] Oh! i still can't write to the disk. Just read. [10:18] Trackilizer, you did chown the dir? [10:18] Yes [10:19] Myrtti, yeah but that only means dont mount on mount -a and let the user be able to mount it [10:19] it also means it won't try to mount it on boot automatically [10:19] yeah :) [10:19] ie. if the device is absent, as is the case often with usb sticks, external harddrives and so on [10:20] Trackilizer, hmm and if you do ls -l /media/ does it say that your the owner? [10:20] drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 32768 1970-01-01 01:00 fat [10:21] heh ok so that didnt go right [10:21] whats your username? [10:21] erhard [10:21] ok type: sudo chown erhard:erhard /media/fat [10:22] chown: changing ownership of `/media/fat': Operation not permitted [10:22] did you use sudo? [10:22] Yes [10:22] hmm [10:23] ok try sudo umount /media/fat and then the last command again [10:24] Yes, it worked. I assume i have to mount the drive again? [10:24] yeah [10:26] Still can't write, tried using nautilus but doesn't work either. [10:26] hmm [10:26] oh [10:28] Myrtti, you know this?: would it be the that vfat doesnt have any rights-management stuff etc so linux just gives rights on the mount for the username that mounted it? [10:28] that might be it [10:28] Trackilizer, try putting that noauto,user after defaults on the sdb1 line in fstab [10:30] No, still can't write. [10:30] so you get: /dev/sdb1 /media/fat vfat defaults,noauto,user 0 0 [10:30] Yes [10:30] then unmount it (sudo unmount /media/fat) [10:31] and then mount in again _without_ sudo (so just: mount /media/fat) [10:32] YES! Thanks alot!! that did it! And it will automatically do this every time i boot? [10:33] Trackilizer: is this harddrive that you're mounting external or internal? [10:33] internal [10:33] in that case... hold on [10:34] well not on boot, but afaik when you click it in nautilus it should automaticly mount now, and otherwise you can add the mount /media/fat command in settings-manager->autostarted applications [10:34] first, replace noauto with just auto [10:34] Myrtti, wouldnt it mount it as root again then? on boot.. [10:35] hold on, reading man mount [10:36] *sigh* [10:37] I just added the command to the autostarted applications, I'll reboot now and see how it goes. Thanks a lot guys. [10:39] Myrtti, heh yeah its a big manpage [11:09] Why do I have http://start.ubuntu.com/8.04/ in each new Firefox 3 window after last update? [11:11] jarnos: because that is the default homepage in firefox? [11:12] Myrtti: I think I got empty page instead before the last update. (I had problems in quitting FF after the update even it was requested; I used System monitor eventually.) [11:48] Myrtti: But I guess Google is paying for Mozilla foundation to get their search engine popped up in Firefox. [11:48] jarnos: infact, that's the main source of revenue for Mozilla [11:51] Myrtti: I see. Shame that the page is not specifically made for xubuntu, but (gnome) ubuntu. [11:52] hm odd [11:57] it should point you to a page on the local filesystem? [11:58] (which is a xubuntu page) [12:09] it shoudl [12:09] perhaps they'd know more at #ubuntu-mozilla === adam is now known as maxamillion === adam is now known as Guest68875 === adam is now known as maxamillion === t3hwiz0r1 is now known as t3hwiz0rd [15:29] I wanna switch from xubuntu 32bit to 64bit is there any cons of such switch except flash and java ? [15:29] you think that it's worth switching even if I have less than 4gb of ram [15:29] and Linux is my only system [15:30] flash full screen worked fine under gutsy with kwin (not with compiz) under hardy it tears alot (both with kwin & compiz) im on an ATI system using accelerated drivers if its relevant [15:31] tbh ati can be a problem itself Rioting_pacifist [15:31] their drivers are getting better everyday but are generally buggy [15:32] you could upgrade flash to 10beta [15:32] and check if that help [15:32] no help, although i have noticed cpu usage drop a bit [15:34] well the strategy with ati is wait for new drivers and update, update, update [15:34] ahh so its probably driver related? [15:35] I think so [15:35] maybe bug in randar operations in the dirvers === maxamillion is now known as notMax === adam is now known as Guest3270 [16:39] Still about the Firefox home page: I made about:blank homepage in preferences and now everything is fine again. [17:25] hello, xubuntu loaded without any bars [17:25] reboot didnt help [17:25] *cries* [17:27] persi: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel [17:27] ' [17:27] hi, is there a tool to show which package provides what ? instead of asking every time "which package contains nm-tool" ? [17:27] without the quoates [17:27] quotes [17:28] thanks, it worked, what was wrong with it? [17:28] AlexCONRAD: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has that information === zoredache_ is now known as zoredache [17:29] AlexCONRAD: apt-file [17:29] persi: the panel must have crashed for some reason. it sometimes does that on low ram systems [17:30] wow thats offensive, i have whole 256 megs! [17:30] heh thanks [17:32] Myrtti: great, thanks, that's a pain killer [17:33] and thanks zoredache for this ressource [17:33] its very helpful as well [17:38] this apt-file search/find thing should really be included in the apt-get app IMO [17:41] AlexCONRAD: I think a couple reasons why it is not is because the databases it creates for the file lists can get big. And not many people really need that functionality. [17:42] well, maybe at least the binaries [17:42] well, I get your point anyway [18:17] what do I need to install to have the screensaver buttun under the xfce settings manager ? [18:19] AlexCONRAD: xscreensaver, or gnome-screensaver [18:19] i think gnome-screensaver is preinstalled with xubuntu.... [18:20] Odd-rationale: yes, but i'm making a custom xubuntu from scratch, and trying to pin down which packages I need [18:20] thanks, I'll have a look at these [18:23] AlexCONRAD: if you want lightwieght, go with xscreensaver [18:24] it's mostly for 3D testing [18:24] I actually won't install it on the CD [18:24] but its has more or less complexe 3D stuff [18:24] with my ATI card === notMax is now known as maxamillion [19:48] hi [19:49] do you know any samba shares browser [19:49] for xubuntu [19:50] kibibyte, this might help: http://www.google.com/search?q=xubuntu%20samba%20browsing [19:50] There are some good solutions online I believe [19:51] ok [19:51] which one you use [19:51] I don't use any, but I know others have [19:51] (With success) [19:52] Oh, and I thought there were plans to add native support for Xubuntu 8.10, but you'd have to ask cody-somerville [19:53] ok [19:54] wow 64bit xubuntu is such painless I thought it gonna be more tricky to install flash and java and win-codecs [19:54] Nice :) [19:55] i thought there is no flash for 64 bit [19:55] There isn't [19:55] it's working by wrapper program [19:55] nspluginwrapper, right? [19:55] but without any performance degadation [19:55] yes [19:55] and whay about shockwave [19:56] Hehe, bow to my infinite knowledge :) [19:56] even it was installed automaticly when I installed flash-nonfree for my browser from repos [19:56] kibibyte, that's not possible natively unfortunately :( [19:56] and whay about shockwave [19:56] ;/ [19:56] Though I believe you can do that with Wine, but I'm not sure [19:57] I'm just amazed how switft is xubuntu 64 bit I remember some versions ago that there was reall pain to run 32 apps and stuff [19:59] kibibyte: fusesmb is pretty easy to setup. autofs is good, particularly with an executable mount map [19:59] ok [20:09] hey all....anyone know why the -19 revision of the kernel (in proposed) would kill sound? I installed linux-headers and linux-image...should I have updated anything else? [20:10] do you have other updates? [20:11] on a side note, how stable is -proposed? [20:12] Greetings [20:13] I just installed Xubuntu 8.04. I have correctly configured the network settings (identical to what I had on my Xubuntu 7.10 machine). I can ping and access local IPs but am unable to connect to internet sites. Any ideas why? [20:14] ye [20:14] edit resolv.conf with the same info as you have in other computer [20:14] what is in that file? [20:14] probably didn't catched dns [20:14] servers [20:14] I updated the DNS info in the Network manager thingy [20:15] As well as the static IP info. [20:15] gaurdro: there are 76 other updates but I don't want them all...Just the kernel cause I heard it (and have confirmed it fixes suspend on my laptop).... [20:15] By the way, I just installed 8.04 over 7.10, so I have no other resolv.conf file to compare it with [20:15] network manager isn't so good for configuring it has it's flaws see if the file isnt empty [20:15] One moment. [20:15] hrm..not sure what happened to that last line... [20:16] there's probably an alsa package that you need as well. [20:17] hrm...yeah actually I checked for Pulse updates but forgot that xcfe still uses alsa...will check...thanks! [20:17] Riotta: resolv.conf has one line. "nameserver " and then its followed by our DNS IP [20:17] does anyone here have experience using rockbox with xubuntu? [20:17] well maybe reboot or restart your modem [20:17] Other computers in the office are online fine [20:17] Including the one I'm on now [20:19] it should be fine I bet it didn't refresh dns entry somehow [20:19] I just finished installation a few minutes ago. The DNS information should be fresh. [20:20] gaurdro: no updates to alsa in proposed... [20:21] I doubt its a firewall issue, as I said I can already access local IP addresses with ease. [20:22] I had once similar problem [20:22] How did you resolve it? [20:22] and I restarted modem and it worked fine then [20:22] try rebooting maybe or it didn't helped ? [20:22] I rebooted the system twice already. [20:23] k [20:23] Jeren: are you sure you got the default gateway set correctly? [20:23] how you are connecting to the network ? [20:23] by ethernet card ? [20:24] The network information is correct, yes. The Static IP, Gateway, and Mask are all accurate. [20:24] Yes [20:24] you know the brand of that card ? [20:24] have you tried doing a traceroute? [20:25] can you ping anything by IP offnet (IE out of your LAN)...? [20:25] One sec [20:25] 64.233.167.99 [20:25] dats google... ;) [20:25] The server's in the back end of the office [20:25] I'll be right back [20:26] That IP is unreachable. [20:27] The brand of the card is... NetGear, I believe. [20:27] Its worked fine for the past three months [20:27] do a traceroute now instead of a ping to see where it is failing [20:27]