[00:27] <Riddell> ryanakca: did ng contact you about the website?  I think he made some progress
[02:25] <ryanakca> Riddell: he contacted me for the download page, I'll look at it again ;)
[03:25] <nixternal> oi oi
[03:50] <nixternal> jjesse: ya, my wifi works out of the box
[03:50] <nixternal> I have that wifi/bluetooth combo thing with the switch on the left hand side of the lappy
[03:50] <nixternal> works like a charm
[05:42] <ScottK> nixternal: Even the bluetooth bit?
[06:22] <nixternal> ScottK: yes, bluetooth works as well for me
[08:08] <Arby> morning all
[08:09] <Nightrose> morning Arby
[08:23] <hunger> Hmm... is it just me or is intrepid behind wrt. current packages?
[08:29] <\sh> hmm...kdepim in intrepid is b0rked?
[08:34] <hunger> \sh: Is that the kde4 version?
[08:37] <\sh> hunger: kde3
[08:37] <\sh> is needed for basket ;)
[09:23] <mvo> hello! is there going to be a kdebase-dev-kde3 (or is there already and I just can not find it :) ?
[09:44] <\sh> mvo: kdebase-dev ?
[10:00] <mvo> \sh: isn't that kde4 in intrepid now?
[10:03] <\sh> mvo: nope...kde4 not merged into new package layout afaik...
[10:03] <\sh> could be wrong..;)
[10:04] <\sh> I'm wrong
[10:05] <Riddell> mvo: kdebase from KDE 3 is gone
[10:05] <Riddell> only kdelibs from KDE 3 still around
[10:05] <\sh> Riddell: what are we doing with basket?
[10:06] <Riddell> it'll need to learn to live without kdebase or go (or get ported to kde 4)
[10:08] <\sh> I'll test the git version tonight
[10:08] <\sh> they started already with kde4 version of basket
[10:17] <bdgraue_> any chance to see opera 9.5 final in hardy soon?
[10:20] <Riddell> bdgraue_: not our area
[10:20] <bdgraue_> where do i have to ask?
[10:21] <Riddell> opera
[10:21] <bdgraue_> ahh, its in the canonical archive, thx Riddell
[10:29] <fabo> apachelogger: http://websvn.kde.org/?view=rev&revision=819794
[10:29] <fabo> s/CC/CCMAIL as reported by pino ;)
[10:31] <mvo> Riddell: compiz needs some kwin headers to build for kde3, are those avialable in kdelibs3 or should I disable the kde3 window decorator for intrepid and switch it to the kde4 one by default (and not build the kde3 one anymore)?
[10:32] <Riddell> mvo: switch to the KDE 4 one
[10:32] <Riddell> don't build the kde 3 one
[10:32] <mvo> thanks, will do
[10:32] <Riddell> onestone says the kde 4 one should be decent enough
[10:35] <mvo> yes, I think so too - I haven't tested it myself yet though
[10:54] <Tm_T> hi kids
[10:56] <Nightrose> 'lo Tm_T :)
[10:57] <Tm_T> shame I still need to be bit off for one more week I afraid
[10:57]  * Tm_T hugs Nightrose 
[10:57] <Nightrose> :)
[10:58]  * Nightrose hugs Tm_T 
[11:00] <mvo> hm, in hardy (and before) kdebase-dev had /usr/include/kde/kwin - what packages did this go into now?
[11:05] <Riddell> mvo: what file are you after?
[11:05] <Riddell> /usr/include/kdecoration.h ?
[11:06] <mvo> yes
[11:06] <Riddell> voila :)
[11:06] <mvo> that and plasma/panelsvg.h
[11:07] <mvo> so where is it :) ?
[11:07] <Riddell> kdebase-workspace-dev for the first
[11:07] <Riddell> libplasma-dev for the second
[11:08] <mvo> groovy, thanks!
[11:08]  * mvo hugs Riddell
[11:08] <Riddell> Nightrose: do you know what happened to the kubuntu poster stand after linuxtag?
[11:11] <Nightrose> Riddell: nope - i assume Czessi__ has it
[11:12] <Nightrose> Riddell: whatever you said to that guy with the nasty signature it seemed to have helped - he didn't use it in his latest email - thx
[12:40] <\sh> http://www.sourcecode.de/content/launchpad-desktop-integration <- something new for kubuntu/ubuntu ;)
[12:41] <Riddell> \sh: nice
[12:41]  * jussi01 sighs, why do things always break on me... :/
[12:42] <Riddell> Czessi: do you have the kubuntu poster stand?
[12:42] <\sh> Riddell: new pykde4 love :)
[12:42] <Nightrose> \sh: wohoo - nifty
[12:42] <jussi01> is this a bug? http://paste.ubuntu.com/19617/
[12:42] <Czessi> Riddell: Hi, yes, i have it.
[12:42]  * jussi01 thinks it is...
[12:45] <Riddell> Czessi: any plans for it between now and akademy?
[12:45] <Riddell> in august
[12:46] <ScottK> nixternal: I may have to pick your brain then because mine appears to be non-working.
[12:50] <Czessi> Riddell: I can post it to akademy, but in the end of august we need it for Froscon (http://www.froscon.org). I would be great when someone post it back to me or danimo / Nightrose (when they are at akademy) can take it to froscon
[12:50] <Nightrose> I am at akademy and froscon
[12:50] <Nightrose> i can take it
[12:51] <Nightrose> form akademy to froscon that is
[12:51] <Nightrose> dunno if danimo is at akademy - if yes he can take it as well
[12:54] <Czessi> Nightrose: cool, thanks
[12:55] <Riddell> Czessi: so please do post it to akademy
[13:03]  * Riddell wonders what to replace the python plasma talk with
[13:03] <Czessi> Riddell: i think one week before akademy is adequate? is this address ok? http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/241
[13:12] <Riddell> Czessi: actually, change of plan, could you send it to England soon for lugradio live?
[13:13] <Czessi> Riddell: no problem, when ist must arrive?
[13:14] <Riddell> Czessi: 19 July
[13:14] <Riddell> Czessi: address /msg'ed
[13:15] <Czessi> Riddell: i've seen. i'll post it in the first week of july
[13:16] <Czessi> Riddell: no, the second week. monday, 9th
[13:17] <Czessi> 7th :-D
[13:52] <nosrednaekim> hey guys
[13:54] <jjesse> hey nosrednaekim
[13:54] <Riddell> hi Nightrose
[13:54] <Riddell> hi nosrednaekim too
[13:54] <Nightrose> ;-)
[13:54] <Riddell> nosrednaekim: I tried plasma/scriptengines/kross but couldn't get it to work
[13:55] <Nightrose> hey nosrednaekim
[13:55] <nosrednaekim> I'm sorry to say........ I got a summer job which is all day- every day. So my kubuntu time is going to be severly limits
[13:55] <nosrednaekim> Riddell: probably no tutorial session then
[13:55] <Riddell> hum
[14:01] <Riddell> Nightrose, apachelogger: is ian monroe online?
[14:01] <Nightrose> Riddell: naee is his nick right now
[14:01] <Nightrose> dunno if he is afk though
[14:01] <Nightrose> might be sleeping
[14:02] <Riddell> mm, right
[14:19] <Nightrose> Riddell: you might try eean now - he just came online
[15:48] <jjesse> does kontact-kde4 not install kmail-kde4?
[15:48] <jjesse> or is kontact-kde4 not ready to handle mail yet?
[15:50] <jjesse> yes that needs to include kmail-kde4
[15:51] <Riddell> what packages are you taking about jjesse ?
[15:51] <jjesse> i tried to install kontact-kde4 and it did not include kmail in it
[15:51] <Riddell> from where?
[15:51] <jjesse> the 4.1 beta ppa
[15:53] <jjesse> so with kontact-kde4 i just ahd the calendar/task/journal functiosn avialable until i did an apt-get install kmail-kde4
[15:56] <Riddell> I don't see kdepim in ~kubuntu-members-kde4
[15:57] <jjesse> maybe i installed things wrong, i installed kontact-kde4
[15:58] <jjesse> yeah from http://ppa.laucnhpad.net/kubuntu-members-kder4/ubuntu hardy main
[15:58] <jjesse> yeah from http://ppa.laucnhpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main
[15:58] <Riddell> oh, I see it
[15:58] <Riddell> it does claim to have a kmail-kde4 package
[15:59] <jjesse> and it works cause i'm running it without problems
[16:03] <Riddell> groovy, sorted
[16:05] <jjesse> glad i could help, i think
[16:15] <Riddell> apachelogger: didn't upload filelight?
[16:15] <apachelogger> not yet
[16:15] <apachelogger> I am busy with getting opensuse builds of amarok2 for the bug hungt
[16:15] <apachelogger> -g
[16:16] <Riddell> beasties!
[16:17] <apachelogger> :S
[16:27] <nixternal> mornin'
[16:28] <Nightrose> morning nixternal :)
[16:30] <Jucato> moin nixternal, Nightrose
[17:20] <jjesse> -monring nixternal
[17:20] <jjesse> what time do you have to wake up to get to work?  11?
[17:25] <nixternal> 05:00
[17:31] <jjesse> nixternal: just giving you a hard time cause its always after 11 when you say "mornin"
[17:31] <gribelu> guys i can't customize shortcut keys in 4.1b .. known problem? fixable in the near future?
[17:34] <ScottK> jjesse: That's what time he has to wake up to get to work by 11.
[17:47] <nixternal> jjesse: ya, I am attempting to create a decent Linux benchmark
[17:48] <jjesse> nixternal: awesome
[17:48] <nixternal> no it isn't awesome
[17:49] <nixternal> every benchmark out there is synthetic and doesn't provide any real time results
[17:49] <nixternal> truthfully, the reason I am creating the benchmark crap, is to benchmark test systems for the appliance which is storage only
[17:50]  * nixternal is looking forward to 'Programming Tonight' meetup and beer :)
[17:50] <jjesse> mmm beer
[17:53] <smarter> mmm programming
[17:53] <nixternal> python or c++ for a non-synthetic benmarking utility?
[17:54]  * nixternal thinks c++
[17:56] <jjesse> wow some people should just not use comptuers
[18:00] <nixternal> amen
[18:01] <jjesse> watching a webcast and these peopledon't know how to share their screen corectly to view things
[18:01] <jjesse> its so funnny
[18:01] <jjesse> and they didn't mute their line so we can hear everything
[18:03] <nixternal> hehe
[19:59] <jussi01> apachelogger: ping
[19:59] <apachelogger> jussi01: pong
[19:59] <jussi01> apachelogger: are you planning to do the testing for that backports bug (I havent looked at it today)
[19:59] <jussi01> ?
[19:59] <apachelogger> jussi01: I already commented
[20:00]  * jussi01 goes to look
[20:03] <jussi01> apachelogger: ahh, good - what is the proceedure from here?
[20:31] <jussi01> Riddell: thanks!
[20:32] <Riddell> welcome jussi01
[20:33] <jussi01> Riddell: I was thinking about bugging you about it, now I dont have to :D
[20:34] <ScottK> Apparently thinking about it was enough.
[20:35] <jussi01> :)
[20:47] <Artemis_Fowl> seele: around?
[20:47] <ryanakca> Riddell: how could we make knmap not run configure twice? (once at the start and once at the end)
[20:55] <Riddell> ryanakca: mm, dunno, sounds like autotools doing their silly thing
[20:55] <Riddell> ryanakca: does it cause a problem?
[20:56] <ryanakca> Riddell: I'm trying to contribute some of our changes to Debian (I'm adopting the package), just that they don't want to accept it because it runs configure twice... (I exchanged the debhelper rules for a modified version of our CDBS one)