[00:06] <DanaG> "No %%BoundingBox: comment in header!"
[00:06] <DanaG> and "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"
[00:08] <DanaG> Aah, latest foomatic-filters is b0rked.
[00:24] <DanaG> Ooh: the Voodoo slim laptop ships with an eSATA optical drive.  Spiffy.
[00:27] <DanaG> Oopsie, wrong channel on last thingy.
[02:25] <DanaG> What the heck?  PulseAudio just randomly died.
[02:25] <RAOF> DanaG: You're really, really good at breaking pulse ;)
[02:25] <DanaG> It was just an e-mail notification... but somehow it killed the server.
[02:25] <DanaG> Unfortunately, the bug reporter is disabled, so I can't auto-report a bug.
[02:38] <DanaG> Hmm, how do you do that?
[02:41] <RAOF> Hit /etc/default/apport, change "enabled" to 1
[02:42] <DanaG> Thanks!  I never knew that.
[02:51] <crimsun> nah, programs don't die randomly.  There's always a cause.
[03:07] <DanaG> In this case, the trigger is my new-mail notification playing while I'm playing music.
[03:09] <DanaG> Oh yeah, I had to manually set channel mapping for the 'combined' sink, because it used Side instead of Rear.
[03:10] <crimsun> Lennart's working on some spiffy new mapper.
[03:12] <DanaG> Hopefully one that can preserve stereo stream -> surround combiner -> stereo device
[03:12] <DanaG> Right now it remixes things a bit, and the effect is hard to describe.
[03:13] <DanaG> Cool thing I just did with a few songs I have: remixed them in Audacity.  I stuck the full version on front channels, the karaoke version on rear channels, and the difference (and thus just the vocals!) on the center.
[03:14] <DanaG> Heh, event sounds.  http://0pointer.de/blog   -- I tried Fedora 9 in a VM, and I thought something was broken when I kept hearing some odd "clunk" noise.
[03:14] <DanaG> It turns out they've set sounds on common GTK controls and events (such as menu selection).
[03:16] <crimsun> mmm, personally annoying.
[03:16] <DanaG> Yup.
[03:18] <DanaG> Oh yeah, would you happen to know how Pulse generates the LFE channel?  My audio files are 5 channels (no LFE), but PulseAudio generates something for it automatically.
[03:19] <crimsun> yeah, it's in the alsa-utils.c portion.
[03:23] <DanaG> A lowpass filter, I presume?
[03:25] <DanaG> I hope pavumeter will be getting a device selector.
[03:26] <DanaG> Oh yeah, I thought of an idea for output control to multiple devices: each stream could have checkboxes for each sink device, in a column.  Same for apps and sources.
[03:31] <DanaG> "Low Frequency Emmiter"
[03:31] <crimsun> it's just a channel map.  It's done in pulse/channelmap.c
[03:33] <DanaG> I'd have to dig up the source.  But LFE is not the same as other channels -- it's not a "positional" speaker.
[03:33] <DanaG> s/dig up/fetch/
[03:33] <DanaG> When I play a stereo file, it exactly mirrors the front center, which seems to be some summing of left and right.
[03:35] <DanaG> So, perhaps LFE sums or averages all other channels.
[03:42] <G_009> Low-Frequency Effects (LFE) is the name of an audio track specifically intended for deep, low-pitched sounds ranging from 10-120 Hz. This track is normally sent to a speaker that is specially designed for low-pitched sounds called the subwoofer or Low Frequency Emitter
[03:43] <DanaG> Yeah, I know that.
[03:44] <DanaG> Anyway, it seems like PulseAudio is simply mixing audio from all channels into LFE.
[03:47] <DanaG> Hmm, my log of pulseaudio -vv is being full of D: module-alsa-sink.c: EAGAIN
[03:47] <DanaG> s/being //
[03:58] <G_009> ...and modern sound processors have bass management functions to redirect bass from any channel to a subwoofer (LFE Crossover)
[04:43] <Vicfred> intrepid ibex alpha 1 is released today right?
[05:06] <DanaG> <lots of this:>    D: module-alsa-sink.c: EAGAIN
[05:06] <DanaG> E: module-combine.c: Assertion '!op->outq_rtpoll_item' failed at modules/module-combine.c:584, function sink_process_msg(). Aborting.
[05:06] <DanaG> That's what I get before PulseAudio dies.
[05:07] <DanaG> ... but why is it even playing the thing on the "combine" sink?  It's not the default sink!
[05:09] <DanaG> Aah, the saved volumes table is confusing.  Is that format documented anywhere?
[05:22] <DanaG> ARGH!
[05:22] <DanaG> PulseAudio DIED again!
[05:36] <DanaG> Is it just me, or did the compiz-fusion git server just become screwy?
[05:36] <DanaG> http://gitweb.opencompositing.org/?o=age
[05:36] <DanaG> shows newest as 2 weeks ago.
[05:37] <DanaG> Heh, now shows 47 hours instead.
[05:41] <DanaG> Yup, the server is b0rked.
[05:49] <crdlb> DanaG: gitweb does that sometimes, and that's very offtopic for this channel :)
[05:49] <teethdood> anyone running ibex right now? kernel 2.6.24 or 25?
[05:51] <DanaG> Linux GLaDOS 2.6.24-17-generic #1 SMP Thu May 1 14:31:33 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:56] <Vicfred> hmm
[06:00] <DanaG> wtf?  Scrolling in evince..... coasts... and then bounces.
[06:01] <DanaG> That's just plain odd.
[06:01] <DanaG> (try middle-grabbing a pdf.)
[07:51] <macd> http://pastebin.com/m4a975aaa  debconf package error
[10:12] <RAOF> GAH!
[10:13] <RAOF> What is it that starts Rhythmbox when I insert a CD?
[11:20] <sdfg> can somebody help me with a cres-dev toolchain for powepc
[11:20] <sdfg> pls
[11:21] <sdfg> can somebody help me with a cres-dev toolchain for powepc
[11:21] <sdfg> pls
[12:09] <Laney> RAOF: It's under preferences in Nautilus
[12:09] <gluer> where can i download intrepid?
[12:10] <hwilde> !intrepid | gluer
[12:11] <RAOF> Laney: In _nautilus_?  What is it doing there? :)
[12:11] <Laney> RAOF: I know, it's a terrible UI choice IMO. Someone posted to u-d-d about it the other day.
[12:12] <RAOF> Wow.  I never knew that.
[12:12] <hwilde> heh easter egg
[12:12] <RAOF> Although I did notice the u-d-d mail.
[12:17] <Kano> hi, where is the iso image?
[12:18] <scizzo-> Kano: what iso image?
[12:18] <Kano> for the alpha 1
[12:18] <scizzo-> !intrepid | Kano
[12:19] <scizzo-> Kano: the alpha is not released yet
[12:19] <Kano> but should be there today or not?
[12:19] <hwilde> if you can't find it then you shouldn't have it
[12:21] <Kano> i see no intrepid daily live. is it still named hardy?
[12:21] <scizzo-> Kano: if alpha 1 is suppose to be released today then the developers do still have another 12 hours to fix the iso
[12:22] <Kano> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjUxOQ
[12:22] <hwilde> iso for intrepid doesn't make sense - you have to have internet to get the updates
[12:22] <Kano> usually there have been daily iso images for hardy, but where are those for intrepid?
[12:22] <hwilde> it will be broken
[12:25] <gluer> intrepid-alpha-1 is it out?
[12:25] <rsk_> no
[12:26] <scizzo-> if there is a alpha 1 release it will probably be mentioned in the topic of this channel
[12:28] <RAOF> There's currently problems building the iso, I believe.
[12:30] <gnomefreak> there are no ISO's for intrepid
[12:30] <Pici> gnomefreak: will there be?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> not until first alpha and i dont suggest you use it nor upgrade at this time as there are 31 broken packages but thats only what i have installed that are broken
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Pici: first alphs there will be
[12:31] <gnomefreak> alpha*
[12:31] <Pici> gnomefreak: Fine with me ;)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> upgrading at this point will break your install ill post the packages as they are ones needed
[12:32] <gnomefreak> Pici: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/1045905
[12:33] <gnomefreak> those are broken
[12:33] <Pici> Yeah... a few important packages in there ;)
[12:34] <gnomefreak> i would say. upstart alone will render your system un bootable
[12:34] <gnomefreak> since its first alpha and shouldnt be tested by anyone not knowing what they are doing so these packages can stay broken and are not needed to meet any specs yet
[12:36] <gluer> ive got my testing laptop and desktop just sitting there waiting :-) cant wait
[12:41] <gnomefreak> gluer: perl might still be broken as well but i fixed that locally and not sure if maintainer pushed to intrepid the fixes.
[12:43] <gnomefreak> ok need to get things done so i can get on with my day
[12:51] <gnomefreak> see now if i would have done email earlier i could have told you why alpha 1 is delayed
[16:41] <Captain1> whens intrepid one getting released
[16:44] <shirish> hi all, does anybody help me with fc-cache command, I'm running fc-cache -fsv on Intrepid and fc-cache is failing
[16:48] <ccooke> shirish: how is it failing?
[16:48] <ccooke> shirish: can you put the output into a pastebuffer?
[16:48] <ccooke> !paste
[16:48] <shirish> ccooke: sure, will do, hang on
[16:51] <shirish> ccooke: pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/19665/
[16:51] <shirish> ccooke: waiting for whatever you say, I just installed a font in /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[16:52] <shirish> ccooke: as can be seen, the first failed to write cache occurs on line 13
[16:53] <shirish> ccooke: next one is on 20th line and then at last line.
[16:54] <ccooke> shirish: *nod*
[16:55] <shirish> ccooke: any ideas, options what I should do?
[16:55] <ccooke> shirish: I'm looking - please be patient :-)
[16:56] <shirish> ccooke: ah sorry, please take your time
[16:56] <shirish> ccooke: lemme know if you need any more info.
[16:56] <ccooke> shirish: shouldn't you run fc-cache under sudo?
[16:58] <shirish> ccooke: right, now its going much deeper, problem solved.
[16:58]  * shirish bangs his head against the desk. 
[16:58] <ccooke> shirish: I should have looked there first :-)
[16:59] <shirish> ccooke: I should have used sudo first ;)
[17:49] <unstable> evolution is terrible, why isn't thunderbird the default email client?
[17:51] <TheInfinity> unstable: because evolution has much more features and a much better gnome integration
[17:52] <ccooke> sfaict, thunderbird is still not a serious option for *any* business use, either
[17:53] <ccooke> (it won't talk to Exchange with anything but imap - at least according to the first page of search results)
[19:39] <linux1> evening ppl
[19:47] <macd> http://pastebin.com/m4a975aaa  debconf package error
[21:01] <jessica> hi
[21:01] <jessica> when is 8.10 going to be realised in alpha1
[21:02] <TheInfinity> ... when its done :)
[21:03] <presroi> jessica: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-June/000431.html
[21:04] <jessica> i dont know why im asking im still on gutsy
[21:04] <TheInfinity> then you wont have fun with an alpha ;)
[21:05] <jessica> i used hardy from alpha1 to stable realise then went back down to gutsy
[21:38] <afallenhope> hey is everything in the /home/username supposed to be owned by username.username
[21:41] <afallenhope> Anyone?
[21:41] <crdlb> yes
[21:41] <afallenhope> crdlb so everything in the /home/username is owend by username.username?
[21:41] <afallenhope> owned*
[21:42] <crdlb> it should be
[21:43] <afallenhope> crdlb, I had an issue with some my /home (I tried to put it on a separate partition and it changed the ownerships.. so should i just chown -R username./home/username
[21:50] <afallenhope> I had an issue with some my /home (I tried to put it on a separate partition and it changed the ownerships.. so should i just chown -R username./home/username? Or will that make things worst
[21:50] <afallenhope> worse*
[21:59] <afallenhope> I had an issue with my /home (I tried to put it on a separate partition and it changed the ownerships.. so should i just chown -R username./home/username? Or will that make things worst
[23:02] <afallenhope> I'm having an issue with the tty terminals
[23:43] <gluer> alpha 1 out yet??
[23:47] <dagrump> I don't believe so, but the dates aren't set in stone. I think I saw a post in the forums it was delayed.
[23:47] <gluer> I see