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DanaG"No %%BoundingBox: comment in header!"00:06
DanaGand "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"00:06
DanaGAah, latest foomatic-filters is b0rked.00:08
DanaGOoh: the Voodoo slim laptop ships with an eSATA optical drive.  Spiffy.00:24
DanaGOopsie, wrong channel on last thingy.00:27
DanaGWhat the heck?  PulseAudio just randomly died.02:25
RAOFDanaG: You're really, really good at breaking pulse ;)02:25
DanaGIt was just an e-mail notification... but somehow it killed the server.02:25
DanaGUnfortunately, the bug reporter is disabled, so I can't auto-report a bug.02:25
DanaGHmm, how do you do that?02:38
RAOFHit /etc/default/apport, change "enabled" to 102:41
DanaGThanks!  I never knew that.02:42
crimsunnah, programs don't die randomly.  There's always a cause.02:51
DanaGIn this case, the trigger is my new-mail notification playing while I'm playing music.03:07
DanaGOh yeah, I had to manually set channel mapping for the 'combined' sink, because it used Side instead of Rear.03:09
crimsunLennart's working on some spiffy new mapper.03:10
DanaGHopefully one that can preserve stereo stream -> surround combiner -> stereo device03:12
DanaGRight now it remixes things a bit, and the effect is hard to describe.03:12
DanaGCool thing I just did with a few songs I have: remixed them in Audacity.  I stuck the full version on front channels, the karaoke version on rear channels, and the difference (and thus just the vocals!) on the center.03:13
DanaGHeh, event sounds.  http://0pointer.de/blog   -- I tried Fedora 9 in a VM, and I thought something was broken when I kept hearing some odd "clunk" noise.03:14
DanaGIt turns out they've set sounds on common GTK controls and events (such as menu selection).03:14
crimsunmmm, personally annoying.03:16
DanaGYup.03:16
DanaGOh yeah, would you happen to know how Pulse generates the LFE channel?  My audio files are 5 channels (no LFE), but PulseAudio generates something for it automatically.03:18
crimsunyeah, it's in the alsa-utils.c portion.03:19
DanaGA lowpass filter, I presume?03:23
DanaGI hope pavumeter will be getting a device selector.03:25
DanaGOh yeah, I thought of an idea for output control to multiple devices: each stream could have checkboxes for each sink device, in a column.  Same for apps and sources.03:26
DanaG"Low Frequency Emmiter"03:31
crimsunit's just a channel map.  It's done in pulse/channelmap.c03:31
DanaGI'd have to dig up the source.  But LFE is not the same as other channels -- it's not a "positional" speaker.03:33
DanaGs/dig up/fetch/03:33
DanaGWhen I play a stereo file, it exactly mirrors the front center, which seems to be some summing of left and right.03:33
DanaGSo, perhaps LFE sums or averages all other channels.03:35
G_009Low-Frequency Effects (LFE) is the name of an audio track specifically intended for deep, low-pitched sounds ranging from 10-120 Hz. This track is normally sent to a speaker that is specially designed for low-pitched sounds called the subwoofer or Low Frequency Emitter03:42
DanaGYeah, I know that.03:43
DanaGAnyway, it seems like PulseAudio is simply mixing audio from all channels into LFE.03:44
DanaGHmm, my log of pulseaudio -vv is being full of D: module-alsa-sink.c: EAGAIN03:47
DanaGs/being //03:47
G_009...and modern sound processors have bass management functions to redirect bass from any channel to a subwoofer (LFE Crossover)03:58
Vicfredintrepid ibex alpha 1 is released today right?04:43
DanaG<lots of this:>    D: module-alsa-sink.c: EAGAIN05:06
DanaGE: module-combine.c: Assertion '!op->outq_rtpoll_item' failed at modules/module-combine.c:584, function sink_process_msg(). Aborting.05:06
DanaGThat's what I get before PulseAudio dies.05:06
DanaG... but why is it even playing the thing on the "combine" sink?  It's not the default sink!05:07
DanaGAah, the saved volumes table is confusing.  Is that format documented anywhere?05:09
DanaGARGH!05:22
DanaGPulseAudio DIED again!05:22
DanaGIs it just me, or did the compiz-fusion git server just become screwy?05:36
DanaGhttp://gitweb.opencompositing.org/?o=age05:36
DanaGshows newest as 2 weeks ago.05:36
DanaGHeh, now shows 47 hours instead.05:37
DanaGYup, the server is b0rked.05:41
crdlbDanaG: gitweb does that sometimes, and that's very offtopic for this channel :)05:49
teethdoodanyone running ibex right now? kernel 2.6.24 or 25?05:49
DanaGLinux GLaDOS 2.6.24-17-generic #1 SMP Thu May 1 14:31:33 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux05:51
Vicfredhmm05:56
DanaGwtf?  Scrolling in evince..... coasts... and then bounces.06:00
DanaGThat's just plain odd.06:01
DanaG(try middle-grabbing a pdf.)06:01
macdhttp://pastebin.com/m4a975aaa  debconf package error07:51
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RAOFGAH!10:12
RAOFWhat is it that starts Rhythmbox when I insert a CD?10:13
sdfgcan somebody help me with a cres-dev toolchain for powepc11:20
sdfgpls11:20
sdfgcan somebody help me with a cres-dev toolchain for powepc11:21
sdfgpls11:21
LaneyRAOF: It's under preferences in Nautilus12:09
gluerwhere can i download intrepid?12:09
hwilde!intrepid | gluer12:10
ubottugluer: Alpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex | Warning lots of breaking software and other good stuff  between now and October!12:10
RAOFLaney: In _nautilus_?  What is it doing there? :)12:11
LaneyRAOF: I know, it's a terrible UI choice IMO. Someone posted to u-d-d about it the other day.12:11
RAOFWow.  I never knew that.12:12
hwildeheh easter egg12:12
RAOFAlthough I did notice the u-d-d mail.12:12
Kanohi, where is the iso image?12:17
scizzo-Kano: what iso image?12:18
Kanofor the alpha 112:18
scizzo-!intrepid | Kano12:18
ubottuKano: Alpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for Ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex | Warning lots of breaking software and other good stuff  between now and October!12:18
scizzo-Kano: the alpha is not released yet12:19
Kanobut should be there today or not?12:19
hwildeif you can't find it then you shouldn't have it12:19
Kanoi see no intrepid daily live. is it still named hardy?12:21
scizzo-Kano: if alpha 1 is suppose to be released today then the developers do still have another 12 hours to fix the iso12:21
Kanohttp://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjUxOQ12:22
hwildeiso for intrepid doesn't make sense - you have to have internet to get the updates12:22
Kanousually there have been daily iso images for hardy, but where are those for intrepid?12:22
hwildeit will be broken12:22
gluerintrepid-alpha-1 is it out?12:25
rsk_no12:25
scizzo-if there is a alpha 1 release it will probably be mentioned in the topic of this channel12:26
RAOFThere's currently problems building the iso, I believe.12:28
gnomefreakthere are no ISO's for intrepid12:30
Picignomefreak: will there be?12:30
gnomefreaknot until first alpha and i dont suggest you use it nor upgrade at this time as there are 31 broken packages but thats only what i have installed that are broken12:30
gnomefreakPici: first alphs there will be12:31
gnomefreakalpha*12:31
Picignomefreak: Fine with me ;)12:31
gnomefreakupgrading at this point will break your install ill post the packages as they are ones needed12:32
gnomefreakPici: http://gnomefreak.pastebin.ca/104590512:32
gnomefreakthose are broken12:33
PiciYeah... a few important packages in there ;)12:33
gnomefreaki would say. upstart alone will render your system un bootable12:34
gnomefreaksince its first alpha and shouldnt be tested by anyone not knowing what they are doing so these packages can stay broken and are not needed to meet any specs yet12:34
gluerive got my testing laptop and desktop just sitting there waiting :-) cant wait12:36
gnomefreakgluer: perl might still be broken as well but i fixed that locally and not sure if maintainer pushed to intrepid the fixes.12:41
gnomefreakok need to get things done so i can get on with my day12:43
gnomefreaksee now if i would have done email earlier i could have told you why alpha 1 is delayed12:51
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Captain1whens intrepid one getting released16:41
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shirishhi all, does anybody help me with fc-cache command, I'm running fc-cache -fsv on Intrepid and fc-cache is failing16:44
ccookeshirish: how is it failing?16:48
ccookeshirish: can you put the output into a pastebuffer?16:48
ccooke!paste16:48
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)16:48
shirishccooke: sure, will do, hang on16:48
shirishccooke: pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/19665/16:51
shirishccooke: waiting for whatever you say, I just installed a font in /usr/share/fonts/truetype16:51
shirishccooke: as can be seen, the first failed to write cache occurs on line 1316:52
shirishccooke: next one is on 20th line and then at last line.16:53
ccookeshirish: *nod*16:54
shirishccooke: any ideas, options what I should do?16:55
ccookeshirish: I'm looking - please be patient :-)16:55
shirishccooke: ah sorry, please take your time16:56
shirishccooke: lemme know if you need any more info.16:56
ccookeshirish: shouldn't you run fc-cache under sudo?16:56
shirishccooke: right, now its going much deeper, problem solved.16:58
* shirish bangs his head against the desk. 16:58
ccookeshirish: I should have looked there first :-)16:58
shirishccooke: I should have used sudo first ;)16:59
unstableevolution is terrible, why isn't thunderbird the default email client?17:49
TheInfinityunstable: because evolution has much more features and a much better gnome integration17:51
ccookesfaict, thunderbird is still not a serious option for *any* business use, either17:52
ccooke(it won't talk to Exchange with anything but imap - at least according to the first page of search results)17:53
linux1evening ppl19:39
macdhttp://pastebin.com/m4a975aaa  debconf package error19:47
jessicahi21:01
jessicawhen is 8.10 going to be realised in alpha121:01
TheInfinity... when its done :)21:02
presroijessica: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-June/000431.html21:03
jessicai dont know why im asking im still on gutsy21:04
TheInfinitythen you wont have fun with an alpha ;)21:04
jessicai used hardy from alpha1 to stable realise then went back down to gutsy21:05
afallenhopehey is everything in the /home/username supposed to be owned by username.username21:38
afallenhopeAnyone?21:41
crdlbyes21:41
afallenhopecrdlb so everything in the /home/username is owend by username.username?21:41
afallenhopeowned*21:41
crdlbit should be21:42
afallenhopecrdlb, I had an issue with some my /home (I tried to put it on a separate partition and it changed the ownerships.. so should i just chown -R username./home/username21:43
afallenhopeI had an issue with some my /home (I tried to put it on a separate partition and it changed the ownerships.. so should i just chown -R username./home/username? Or will that make things worst21:50
afallenhopeworse*21:50
afallenhopeI had an issue with my /home (I tried to put it on a separate partition and it changed the ownerships.. so should i just chown -R username./home/username? Or will that make things worst21:59
afallenhopeI'm having an issue with the tty terminals23:02
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glueralpha 1 out yet??23:43
dagrumpI don't believe so, but the dates aren't set in stone. I think I saw a post in the forums it was delayed.23:47
gluerI see23:47

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