[00:01] <greg-g> I would think gnome, but I would also search gnome's bugzilla to see if it has been reported ( http://bugzilla.gnome.org/ )
[00:11] <Awsoonn> greg-g: that's the problem there is that 'gnome' is a binary package. This bug is assigned to its source package 'meta-gnome2' instead. And I was politely told not to attach anything to meta-gnome2  doesn't have any code to handle anything but dependencies
[00:11] <greg-g> Awsoonn: right, I'm not sure what part of gnome (or if it is just gtk2?) but if it is in gnome's bugzilla somewhere, you should be able to find it
[00:19] <dsas> Awsoonn: I think that would be gtk2
[00:20] <greg-g> makes sense
[00:20] <Awsoonn> dsas: thank you
[01:46] <hggdh> bdmurray, ping
[06:42] <ppp> Hi everyone. I have been having alot of problems with my routing table loosing my gateway router over time, and thus loosing internet. I have done alot of research and ammended this bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi/+bug/111282
[06:42] <ppp> Ive come up with a workaround but it would be great if someone had a root cause fix :)
[06:43] <ppp> Its not actually a "sleep" bug, my workstation doesnt sleep, it just seems to loose the gateway in the route table
[07:07] <ruiboon> hi. may i know the package responsible for the print screen function?
[07:13] <ruiboon> found it. gnome-utils is responsible for the print screen function. Thanks
[07:14] <persia> ruiboon: It depends on user configuration.  ksnapshot and gnomeutils are the most common
[07:14] <ruiboon> persia: the user is using gnome. yap. so it is gnome-utils
[07:14] <ruiboon> persia: thanks for the info
[07:18] <sbeattie> Hmm, anyone had any luck installing the daily hardy.1 images?
[09:04] <kagou> Hi
[09:06] <kagou> i'm searching user of notebook with gnome to confirm #233920
[09:06] <seb128> bug #233920
[09:06] <seb128> lut kagou
[09:06] <kagou> lu seb128
[10:00] <thekorn> I'M sure bug 227600 is a duplicate of a well known bug, does anybody have the bug# of the master handy?
[10:11] <james_w> thekorn: I don't know the number, but let me have a search
[10:12] <thekorn> james_w, thanks a lot
[10:13] <james_w> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/+bug/186382 is the one that I was thinking of, is that it?
[10:16] <thekorn> james_w, that's exactly the bug I was looking for, but since this is fix released, I will have to ask the reporter some questions before marking this as a dup,
[10:16] <thekorn> thanks again
[10:17] <james_w> ah, didn't notice it was fixed
[10:18] <james_w> the last comment is from someone who it isn't fixed for.
[10:22] <thekorn> both hardy task are fix released, so maybe different issues or 'incomplete' fixes
[11:14] <james_w> o pacote mime-support já está instalado e configurado
[11:14] <james_w> could someone translate that for me please? ^
[11:15] <thekorn> james_w, translate.google.com returns  'the mime-support package is already installed and configured'
[11:16] <james_w> thekorn: ah, didn't think of using that, thanks
[11:16] <ogra> Pacote or mime-support is already installed and configured
[11:16] <ogra> beaten
[11:16] <james_w> the bug report says that this was during an upgrade, which is odd.
[12:25] <sectech> morning
[13:17] <sectech> Hrmmm a reporter just taught me about an application I didn't know to create python scripts... eric
[13:47] <\sh> sectech: it's one of the most known python ides inside the qt/kde environment :)
[13:47] <pedro_> hello folks
[13:47] <sectech> \sh,  I guess I live under a rock then....
[13:47] <sectech> morning pedro_
[13:47] <pedro_> In case you don't know it, today is Compiz Hug Day!!
[13:47] <pedro_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20080612 <- feel free to squash any of those bugs
[13:48] <sectech> Okay...
[13:48] <pedro_> morning sectech how's going?
[13:48] <sectech> pedro_,   pretty good :) just sipping on my morning coffee
[13:48] <pedro_> niice
[13:49] <sectech> I know one thing is for sure, I won't be inside triaging all day with how nice it is out there :)
[13:50] <pedro_> sigh, i'm not having a good weather today... -1ºC with a lot of clouds
[13:51] <sectech> -1C wow.... where are you?
[13:51] <sectech> Usually we have lots of fog in Saint John (or so they tell me)
[13:52] <pedro_> Santiago - Chile
[13:53] <sectech> Ahh...
[13:55] <sectech> goes to show you what I know about the world, I thought it was nice and warm over there
[14:31] <sectech> ruiboon,  how can you know it's a pulse audio problem when there is very little description to the bug? Bug #239445
[14:31] <sectech> ruiboon,  That is why I gave a generic reply asking for the reporter to describe the bug a little better...
[14:36] <ruiboon> sectech: i have interpreted the summary as listening to streaming music in browser or listening to music in mplayer, so it may be related to sound
[14:38] <ruiboon> sectech: when i click on the add a comment link, your comment wasnt there yet. i was quite slow in replying to that bug report.
[14:38] <sectech> ruiboon,  lol ahh okay...
[14:38] <sectech> ruiboon,  I thought you knew something specifically about that bug that I didn't...
[14:39] <sectech> Still is a toss up, we will know more when the reporter elaborates a bit
[14:40] <ruiboon> sectech: i know what is available from bug report. Hmm... maybe apport should include the link when users are reporting bugs
[14:41] <sectech> ruiboon,  It would help if it did... although I am sure some would argue that it potentially could be a privacy concern...
[14:41] <sectech> you never know what a user might be trying to play :P
[14:45] <ruiboon> sectech: that certainly will be a privacy issue. just wondering how much it will help us in triaging when the link is included automatically.
[14:46] <sectech> saves us a step from asking I guess...
[14:46] <ruiboon> when users report a bug using apport, there is already some guiding question. many users seems to miss them though
[14:48] <sectech> Indeed they do lol...
[14:59] <theseinfeld> !bot
[15:39] <qense> hello
[16:16] <jcastro> bdmurray: do you have a wiki page where you're going to put the list o bugs for the global bug jam?
[16:17] <bdmurray> jcastro: not at this point in time - is it being looked for?
[16:18] <jcastro> bdmurray: we're just writing some "what to do for the bugjam" docs, we can add it later though
[16:19] <bdmurray> jcastro: okay
[16:22] <snap-l> Is there a tag that'll be used for the bugjam?
[16:24] <jcastro> snap-l: yeah we're writing that stuff right now and are going to be adding it to the wiki RSN
[16:26] <snap-l> OK.
[16:27] <snap-l> Figured I was jumping the gun
[16:31] <jcastro> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GlobalBugJam/Prep
[16:31] <jcastro> snap-l: feedback please! Since you arranged a bug jam a little bit ago
[16:32] <jcastro> snap-l: basically this document is for people who will be organizing the jam in each respective loco or whatever
[16:32] <jcastro> so these are things we want them to be aware of
[16:33] <snap-l> organized? :)
[16:34] <snap-l> I got the library booked. :)
[16:34] <snap-l> I'll check it out, though,.
[16:37] <snap-l> Having trouble logging into the wiki
[16:44] <LimCore> ikonia: hi, i debugged the NTP problem.  It turns out that simply my drift is so big that ntpd fails to fix it since it uses adjtime, and adjtime kernel time change is too slow - http://limcore.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/adjtime-and-synchronizing-time-in-linux-kernel/
[16:44] <LimCore> solution would be to allow kernel to adjust time faster with another syscall telling how fast the djust must be applied;  And workaround (with ntpd) to make it use settimeofday if it sees that adjtime doesnt work
[17:01] <ruiboon> hi. how do i unsubscribe u-s-m from a bug report (i was the one who subscribe it initially)? it is no longer necessary as the fix has already been released
[17:01] <bdmurray> ruiboon: you have to be a member of the team to unsubscribe the team
[17:03] <ruiboon> bdmurray: i see. could a member of u-s-m check if this subscription is still needed as the fix has been released? bug 232452
[17:04] <bdmurray> I think them being subscribed to a Fix Released bug is fine.  You could find out for certain in #ubuntu-devel though
[17:06] <ruiboon> bdmurray: thanks for the info
[17:22] <bddebian> Boo
[18:29] <qense> bdmurray: My bugcontrol membership is about to expire. I'm told to ping you. ;)
[18:39] <bdmurray> qense: thanks, I'll look into it
[19:04] <qense> I'm a bit confused by bug 229477 Is it a hardware error or a bug in how Ubuntu handles blank CDs?
[19:05] <qense> (the reported marked the bug as In Progress and Assigned himself :P)
[19:08] <qense> I'll just confirm it and wait for the dev's response. Lazy me
[19:08] <qense> btw, is Brainstorm down?
[19:12] <stgraber> qense: I'd say just slow :) happens from time to time
[19:12] <stgraber> qense: we are waiting for a new server and a squid running in front of it
[19:13] <greg-g> oooo, edge.launchpad has a different layout now
[19:13] <qense> greg-g: yes, the sidebar is screwed up now, that's new! :P
[19:14] <greg-g> ah, yeah, they don't drop down
[19:16] <greg-g> not sure if I like the text "floating" out there on the page ("mark as duplicate, set privacy/security, and convert to questions)
[19:16] <pedro_> iak looks awful
[19:17] <qense> things are not properly rendered
[19:17] <qense> what the heck is that empty, non-clickable textbox doing at the left-bottom?
[19:17] <qense> things indeed don't drop down and images aren't rendered good
[19:19] <greg-g> you should have received an email from a LP dev saying that the sidebar is disabled as everything is now in the body of the page.  so that is on purpose
[19:19] <qense> yeah, I just got that email too
[19:20] <greg-g> hmm, where is that list archived?
[19:21] <qense> at lists.ubuntu.com?
[19:21] <greg-g> couldn't find it
[19:27] <jkary> Hello.  I've been looking at bug 151674 and it appears the fix/work around has been suggested in the notes. (Enable vblank)  I was wondering what the next steps might be to get this bug to green?  I am a bit confused by the process as I am doing this for the first time.
[19:28] <qense> greg-g: I can forward it to you
[19:35] <greg-g> qense: I got it myself, I just deleted by habit after reading it :)
[19:35] <qense> ok
[19:35] <qense> but do you want a copy?
[19:37] <greg-g> no thanks, I was actually curious to read back through the list mainly
[19:38] <qense> ok
[19:39] <greg-g> thanks though
[20:11] <sectech> either my internet is slow, or launchpad is sluggish today
[20:12] <pedro_> sectech: not your internet connection, launchpad is being slow
[20:14]  * greg-g nods
[20:15] <sectech> We don't do up a "needs packaging"  for a package that isn't stable yet do we? Bug #239524
[20:15] <sectech> I was going to write it up properly, but when I went to verify which version is stable it's 0.7.1
[20:15] <sectech> which is currently what we have
[20:16] <sectech> I already edited one "needs packaging" today...  I love the instructions that were sent around the mailing list btw.
[20:18] <pedro_> 0.7.90 it's a beta release, makes more sense to have it on a PPA just like banshee
[20:19] <sectech> pedro_,  so how do I deal with this bug?  Let the reporter know that 0.7.1 is the latest stable (which he/she probably already knows)?
[20:21] <sectech> pedro_,  and what is PPA? (sorry)
[20:22] <pedro_> sectech: Personal Package Archives -> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[20:23] <sectech> Ahhh ok
[20:24] <pedro_> but i'm not an archive manager so maybe it can go to intrepid anyways
[20:25] <ssam> i am running hardy with proposed-updates enabled. today my mouse is very jerky, some clicks are being ignored and keeeys are multiply pressing. i am not surrre if its one of the updates that has caused     this or which oneeee. where should i report itttt?
[20:26] <pedro_> ssam: just as another normal bug report, but please say that you're using the proposed package repository
[20:27] <ssam> ok, thanks
[20:41] <calc> bdmurray: do you happen to have a template for closing old incomplete bugs?
[20:44] <bdmurray> calc: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status in the Incomplete section
[20:47] <calc> bdmurray: thanks :)
[20:48] <bdmurray> sure, no problem
[20:48] <bdmurray> how is the OOo bug volume?
[20:49] <calc> i think its averaging around 5 new per day plus all the followup bug mail
[20:50] <calc> i probably get ~ 50 bug mail per day on average (or at least it seems roughly that)
[20:52] <ffm> Hello world!
[20:53] <calc> i find a lot of bugs seem to be filed by drive by submitters
[20:54] <calc> eg they don't respond to requests for more info, etc
[20:55] <bdmurray> yeah, that's unfortunate
[20:56] <bdmurray> calc: how about an openoffice hug day next tuesday?
[20:57] <norsetto> bdmurray: we should call it bug week then ...
[20:57] <calc> bdmurray: sounds good to me
[20:58] <calc> bdmurray: anything in particular i should do for preparation?
[20:58] <calc> we should have 1:2.4.1-1ubuntu1 built and in hardy-proposed (maybe updates) by then
[20:58] <calc> it was uploaded earlier this morning
[20:58] <bdmurray> calc: sprucing up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingOpenOffice would be great
[20:59] <calc> ok
[20:59] <calc> i'll work on that once i get through with the incomplete bug cleaning
[21:40] <ffm> bdmurray: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-retriever/+bug/234486 is ia nasty bug that is "fixed", but I still have issues with.
[21:47] <bdmurray> ffm: you might any some more details regarding your setup or check in #ubuntu-installer
[21:50] <bdmurray> win 15
[22:03] <ffm> kk
[23:14] <sectech> are we currently using firefox RC1 or RC2? I can't find the RC version
[23:15] <sectech> (Up to date hardy)
[23:16] <sectech> RC3 ok
[23:16] <sectech> found it
[23:17] <ssam> i filed Bug #239577
[23:20] <bdmurray> sectech: is the xpdf task for bug 238817 still valid?
[23:20] <sectech> bdmurray,  As I am told xpdf doesn't use poppler, so yes
[23:21] <bdmurray> oh, so there is one bug w/ evince and one with xpdf?
[23:21] <ffm> bdmurray: btw, the synergy bug is fixed.
[23:22] <sectech> bdmurray,  yeah, I added "also affects xpdf" because the symptoms are exactly the same
[23:22] <sectech> bdmurray,  Should I have separated them?
[23:23] <bdmurray> It could go either way
[23:24] <bdmurray> How's that for a vaguery!
[23:24] <sectech> bdmurray,  hmmmm I could understand why either way....
[23:25] <sectech> if you or a developer requests it I'll invalidate the xpdf one and write a new one specifically for it..
[23:26] <bdmurray> If it was popular and had a lot of subscribers it might be a good idea, but I think it is fine as it stands.
[23:26] <sectech> bdmurray,  take a look at bug #239514... I sent that upstream as a "trivial"
[23:26] <sectech> bug 239514
[23:27] <sectech> I'm sure it's just an incorrect graphic in RC3....
[23:32]  * ffm bugs bdmurray about bug-control.
[23:33]  * sectech is also curious about bug-control