=== Ben1 is now known as BenC [09:50] I'm trying to think of a good reason why we have a linux-source-2.6.x.deb package, but I'm having a hard time justifying it [09:52] because people are used to it? [10:07] used to it doesn't mean it's worth having :) [10:07] most people assume they can use it to build the same packages we do, and that's just incorrect [10:08] what most people want is "apt-get source linux" not "sudo apt-get install linux-source" [12:03] * BenC fires off the 2.6.26-1.1 upload [12:05] rtg: what was that you talk me last night, that adam said would pull in the last version? [12:05] hang on... [12:05] *told [12:06] an option to dpkg-buildpkg, e.g., '-v2.6.24-18.36' [12:07] Oh, I already knew about that [12:08] rtg: that just sets the .changes file to include all changelog entries later than that version [12:09] as opposed to just the current upload [12:31] BenC: are you killing linux-ubuntu-modules? [12:32] BenC: (for intrepid i mean) [13:00] fabbione: yeah [13:00] ok [13:01] so all external modules are back into main tree? [13:06] fabbione: yeah, pretty much [13:13] BenC: it's kind of astonishing that no matter what, everything always collapse again. [13:13] BenC: specially when we discussed that in regards of API/ABI breakage from lum [13:13] and i suggested to go back [13:29] I never said going back wasn't possible [13:29] just that we couldn't do it in hardy [13:29] nah there was time for hardy... === dashua_ is now known as dashua [13:29] nah, there wasn't :) [13:30] time to do it, sure, but some one with that time, that's a different story [13:30] there was.. you are just too slow :P [13:30] that's why you have 24h/day and weekends [13:30] weekends are boring without hacking :) [13:31] lol, my weekends aren't boring, but I definitely don't spend them hacking [13:31] you're married, your don't have time either :P [13:33] ahhaha [13:34] BenC: married and with small kids you have nights to hack on :-) [13:35] torkel: no you don't.. kids keep you busy [13:40] especially at night.. === mkrufky is now known as mkrufky-away === asac_ is now known as asac === mkrufky-away is now known as mkrufky === smb_tp is now known as smb_away === smb_away is now known as smb_tp === mdomsch is now known as mdomsch_ord [21:57] what is the difference between linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-18-386 and linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-18-generic ?? === mnem0 is now known as mnemo [22:06] mnemo: the flavour. -386 is for older machines, -generic for 686+ machines [22:07] so I really want the latter then, for a modern machine?? [22:10] mnemo: depends on what kernel you have installed. 'apt-get install linux-image-generic' ought to take care of all dependencies, really [22:11] but how do I choose kernel between -i386 and -generic? [22:11] mnemo: what is the output of 'cat /proc/version_signature'? [22:12] it's currently Ubuntu 2.6.24-18.32-386 [22:13] but I think I got both installed in grub for some reason [22:13] and i'm more interested in general what is the difference between -i386 and -generic so I know which one to use in the future etc [22:14] mnemo: if your processor is something released in the last 2-3 years, it is a safe bet to go with -generic. [22:15] yea I know -generic boots and works fine when I select it from grub [22:15] but is -generic faster because it's optimized for 686 or something like that? [22:18] mnemo: yes. It will use optimizations, new instructions, etc. for newer processors. [22:18] okay cool [22:18] thanks for explaining it to me [22:19] np === mkrufky is now known as mkrufky-away === mkrufky-away is now known as mkrufky [23:21] Hi everybody. For starters, thanks for your work on the kernel. I'm desperately waiting for 2.6.25+ because of lan driver fixes, so I was looking around at the launchpad pages and wanted to mention two things: [23:22] 2.6.26 ia64 for intrepid has run and failed to build because of a missing: debian/rules.d/ia64.mk [23:22] (which seems like a small mistake?) [23:23] The kernel-team contact information link to the wiki doesn't work, see https://launchpad.net/~kernel-team on the right lower side. [23:23] So, that's all I wanted to mention. Keep up the good work and looking forward to the new versions. [23:24] Thanks for reading! [23:30] hi anyone awake? [23:30] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/204578 [23:31] it would be great if someone could integrate the driver from mcentral.de into ubuntu