[00:00] And it's not so pretty. I haven't set up patch system in the beginning, and now I'm waiting to package 0.3, which should fix those bugs that I fixed... So, I didn't care for setting up a patch system for this release. [00:01] also, I'm preparing it for Debian, so I might set up patch system in Debian package, so it can be synced back. Though, I'm still thinking on that (same reason - 0.3) [00:01] asac ^ [00:01] *still thinking about that... [00:02] still -> meeting for me :) [00:02] Ok... just ping whenever you have time to do it... [00:03] I suppose I'll have xchat on until late afternoon/evening... [00:04] gvc? [00:04] gnome-voice-control [00:04] (apparently meeting has reached a dead end :)) [00:05] ah [00:05] #219303 ? [00:05] yep ... lemme check - bug 219303 [00:05] Launchpad bug 219303 in gnome-voice-control "Problem with OAFIID:GNOME_VoiceControlApplet while adding VoiceControl to GNOME Panel" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219303 [00:05] that one [00:05] Comment #16 is the patch for intrepid [00:05] how do you do: [00:05] * Modified Makefile.{am,in} to make multibuild safe (LP: #150745) [00:06] ? [00:06] i see the gnome-doc-utils.make drop in Makefile.am [00:06] but how does it fix that? [00:06] I removed gnome-doc-utils.make from EXTRA_DIST, so it is not deleted [00:06] Whatever is in that variable (maybe I missed the name of it) is deleted on dist-clean. [00:07] why from EXTRA_DIST? [00:07] Hmm ... It was mentioned there and in DISTCLEANFILES... Now that I think of it, I don't know why I removed it from the both variables. [00:08] i think it should stay [00:08] Ok, let me testbuild it without removing from EXTRA_DIST [00:08] check what changes ;) [00:08] after build? [00:09] http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/Autotools/slides/Makefile_am/extra_dist.html [00:09] i think this means its not getting removed on make distlcean [00:09] :) [00:09] Ahhh... [00:09] So, I crippled it. [00:11] Jazzva: why is make distclean run in between multibuild? [00:11] i'd think that make clean should be enough [00:12] But it shouldn't remove that file. I didn't find a way to reproduce it back... [00:12] Jazzva: make dist [00:12] ? [00:13] I'll give it a run... [00:13] well ... i think distclean shouldnt remove that file if its not in DISTCLEANFILES :) [00:13] so thats fine [00:13] just to drop there [00:13] Yep, it's not removing it after I removed it from DISTCLEANFILES [00:13] keeping it in EXTRA_DIST is important so it gets included in release tarballs done with make dist :) [00:14] understoof [00:14] *understood [00:14] which is not really relevant in ubuntu though :) [00:14] but better do it minimal [00:15] Well, I think it's still pretty messy without a patch system. I don't like the way it looks atm :) [00:16] yeah. if there is no vcs its painful ... unless the diff.gz is really kept minimal [00:16] anyway, that should be fixed in 0.3 ... yay :) [00:16] Jazzva: why not just merge 0.3 then? [00:16] Though, I have to wait for one guy to package pocketsphinx, since they changed dependency from sphinx to pocketsphinx [00:17] It's pretty much done, but waiting in revu since hardy... [00:17] Jazzva: ? [00:17] why isnt it injected in debian? [00:17] pocketsphinx? [00:18] err ... cant that be reverted? [00:18] that dependency change? [00:18] I don't think so. That's what upstream says - we changed the dep from sphinx to pocketsphinx... [00:19] Jazzva: ok. let me know when you fixed that minor thing. i can then upload (i hope) :) [00:19] err you are original maintainer ... hehe [00:19] ok [00:19] how about uploading that to debian? [00:19] wanna go for it? [00:20] Yep... I started doing that tonight... Investigatin debian way of packaging, what should I change and stuff... [00:20] Jazzva: nothing. just remove the ubuntuX suffix from version [00:20] e.g. release 0.2-2 to debian [00:20] and either sync to ubuntu [00:21] or if you want changes do the merge :) [00:21] e.g. 0.2-2ubuntu1 :) [00:21] otherwise its pretty much ubuntu packaging [00:21] That's it? Just to upload current orig.tat.gz with dsc and diff.gz in their current state? With summarised changelog and only one entry 0.2-1? [00:21] just be sure that debian/copyright is correct and that lintian doesnt complain too much [00:22] lintian complains. I'll include the fix in this patch, too [00:22] Jazzva: some people might be unhappy about ubuntu changelog entries [00:22] however, i wouldn't mind [00:22] you need to open an ITP [00:23] and (Closes: #BUGID) in changelog for the initial debian upload [00:23] Jazzva: when you change the debdiff, please use a different version for hardy-proposed [00:23] there is no rule, but i like: [00:23] hardyversion.0.8.04.1 [00:23] There's an old ITP which I opened. [00:24] Ok [00:24] err just hardyversion.8.04.1 [00:24] :) [00:24] e.g. ubuntu0.8.04.1 ... or ubuntu5.8.04.1 [00:24] got it [00:24] Would you be willing to sponsor it in debian, too? :) [00:25] i'd suggest to do that and then upload as 0.2-1 to debian [00:25] once that is done maintain as long as debian is not frozen and we still sync in debian [00:25] and auto-sync [00:25] asac: yes, i can upload it there (if license is correct) :) [00:26] you can make a changelog on top 0.2-1 : initial upload to debian (Closes: #ITP-BUGID) [00:26] Great :D [00:27] Jazzva: ah ... you probably want to move yourself to Maintainer: [00:27] I will... not really sleepy tonight, so I'll fix the lintian complaints... [00:27] for debian upload that is [00:27] mhm [01:15] asac, bug 219303 ... I uploaded the updated patch [01:15] Jazzva: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/219303/+text) [01:16] I also left the changes to config.{sub,guess}, which were copied from /usr/share/something... [01:16] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219303 [01:16] Launchpad bug 219303 in gnome-voice-control "Problem with OAFIID:GNOME_VoiceControlApplet while adding VoiceControl to GNOME Panel" [Undecided,Confirmed] [01:16] /usr/share/misc :) [01:24] Jazzva: i can rip it out manually, but why has the copyright file changed? [01:24] lintian wasn't happy with it [01:24] because Copyright line was empty... [01:24] so, just to satisfy lintian... [01:24] ok [01:24] better document that in changelog ;) [01:24] I didn't? [01:25] ah you did [01:25] :) [01:25] you just didnt name the affected file in changelo gentry [01:25] but ok [01:25] good evening [01:25] I thought it should be well known [01:26] yeah, but when searching for a change i like to search just for the file i see a change against [01:26] I can change that if needed [01:26] Hello, Sergeant_Pony [01:26] no its fine [01:26] Ok :) [01:27] So, now i should just upload orig.tar.gz, dsc and diff.gz to debian itp? Of course, after changing the packaging. [01:27] Hey guy's... I'm still getting the error that it cannot copy my sent email to the sent folder. I have tried all that was suggested with the same results [01:29] Sorry Sergeant_Pony, I don't know how to help [01:29] ok.. [01:31] Sergeant_Pony: i have no real ideas either without reproducing the issue on my own (which is unlikely to to happen) [01:31] Sergeant_Pony: if you already removed your .msf files in your profile [01:32] you could check if maybe a tbird extension causes this [01:33] Jazzva: uploaded [01:33] Thanks, asac :) [01:33] I'll do a test build in debian now... just to see if it works there [01:38] what are these *.msf files? so I can make sure I look for the correct ones [01:39] I found one in imapmail [01:42] Sergeant_Pony: find $HOME/.mozilla-thunderbird/ -name \*.msf [01:42] those are cache files [01:42] that cause issues if corrupted [01:49] ok.. I figured it out... [01:49] going to send a test email to make sure I have it fixed [01:54] yup, all fixed [02:02] aha ... why didnt you do that when i first uggested it ;) [02:02] anyway ... night [02:03] that wasn't the cause of the problem [02:03] it was trying to copy the sent email to the wrong imap folder [02:26] <[reed]> Firefox 3 -- Tuesday, June 17th [02:26] <[reed]> http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/06/11/coming-tuesday-june-17th-firefox-3/ [07:42] hua [07:46] fta: err, the devhelp build still fails at the same place [07:46] whats going on? [07:46] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15223997/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-i386.devhelp_0.19-1ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [07:47] same error than ubuntu2 [07:47] eh ? [07:47] fta: look ;) [07:48] fta: i applied your debdiff ... it still fails ;) [07:48] mine is ubuntu4 [07:48] ah [07:48] it just failed on hppa [07:48] <[reed]> asac / fta: ready for Tuesday? :) [07:48] why do i gett the ubuntu3 build errors tonight then :( [07:48] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15223512/buildlog_ubuntu-intrepid-hppa.devhelp_0.19-1ubuntu4_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [07:48] <[reed]> http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2008/06/11/coming-tuesday-june-17th-firefox-3/ [07:48] [reed]: we are un track so far [07:48] on track ;) [07:48] <[reed]> untrack? :) [07:48] <[reed]> :P [07:48] <[reed]> k [07:49] bits are in -proposed waiting for the final kick to become final [07:51] fta: thanks and sorry for the noise ;) [07:51] each morning, my ff3 is dead [07:51] fta: i just woke up and saw like 5 devhelp build failures in my inbox [07:51] mine is still running ;) [07:51] since yesterday [07:51] ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1) [07:51] ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2) [07:51] (firefox:13216): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_image: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed [07:51] (firefox:13216): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed [07:51] (firefox:13216): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_draw_image: assertion `GDK_IS_GC (gc)' failed [07:51] (firefox:13216): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed [07:51] firefox: pcm_pulse.c:275: pulse_write: Assertion `pcm->last_size >= (size * pcm->frame_size)' failed. [07:51] Abort [07:54] fta: yeah [07:54] fta: did you run set-pulseaudio in alsa [07:55] yes [07:56] it's ok for a while and it aborts during the night (idle) [07:57] fta: could you open a bug against alsa-plugins2 i guess [08:11] hi rzr [08:24] fta: could you open a bug about those crashes against alsa plugins and let me know? We need any kind of such bug to assess the risk of pulling in intrepid things for hardy :/ [09:08] bdmurray: what was the outcome of UDS ... will there be a small set of tags to indicate worflow tasks or not? [09:27] [reed]: what is the process if we want to get a role account or something like ubuntu@distro.bugs in bugzilla? we could then CC that one on every bug filed by ubuntu users. [09:27] err, ubuntu triagers [09:27] as discussed for improving bug forwarding [09:28] <[reed]> mozilla.org :: Bugzilla: Other b.m.o Issues [09:28] <[reed]> file a bug [09:28] <[reed]> :) [09:28] maybe its possible to configure such an account to monitor all known ubuntu triagers? [09:29] well ... but maybe that might cause too much traffic [09:29] as users probably wont just use their account for forwarded discussion [09:29] <[reed]> yeah [09:31] [reed]: if i get bugzilla mail, can i see from headers that i am getting that because i watch ubuntu@distro.bugs? [09:31] <[reed]> yes [09:31] so i can filter that mail to a special mailbox ;) [09:31] good [10:18] seems PPA builds intrepid now [10:19] yeah [10:19] for a bit iirc [10:19] ah [10:20] changing hardy to intrepid repo than although packages may still be same [10:34] be back im waiting to find out if i can post sources to my site but it isnt looking good: smoke [10:45] * asac out getting cigarettes [11:15] this isnt gonna work [11:18] dont be pessimistic :) [11:18] Morning ... [11:18] hi Jazzva [11:18] its teatime? [11:18] :-P [11:19] not in my post-wakeup time-zone :) [11:19] hehe [11:19] asac: free FTP site to upload >30mb per file most i saw was 10mb pre file [11:19] i am here since 8:30 .... see what is brave ;) [11:20] gnomefreak: what do you want to upload? [11:20] ftp isnt needed but best [11:20] Heh... [11:20] asac: i want to beablet o post the sources for backports so they can be grabbed and checked without needing to change the ubuntu target and version and so on [11:21] this way the person pushing to backports/updates/universe ect doesnt need to change anything [11:21] smoke while i think about this. [11:22] gnomefreak: he? you can use the "backports" tracking bug [11:22] and upload everything there [11:22] makes sense? [11:24] asac: I finished last night with testing teatime in debian. Now two more quick questions :). Do I make it for unstable or experimental? And do I just upload the sources to bugreport? [11:26] asac: what do you mean? i can upload sources to bug report? [11:27] gnomefreak: why not. if those are the sources to be sponsored, then yes. [11:27] gnomefreak: but if its the same tarball as in intrepid you can just add a link to the tarball in the pool [11:28] instead of uploading the comoplete thing to launchpad again [11:28] Jazzva: usually unstable [11:28] experimental is ment for things that bear the risk of breaking other things or if there is a version in testing and you dont want your new upload to go into testing [11:29] same tarball yes but different version since it will have ~8.04 [11:29] Ok, makes sense :) [11:30] hm upload to revu and give link? :) [11:31] Jazzva: you can upload the bits whereever you want. usually you would upload them to mentors.debian.net i guess [11:32] Ah... Ok, I'll give you a notice when it's done. Now I need to go out for cigarettes. [11:33] Jazzva: when did you start smoking? [11:33] or have you always been one of "the cool ones"? [11:34] asac: 15 or 16... [11:34] oh ok [11:34] then i mixed it up [11:34] asac: bug 194970 was fixed in sunbird 0.7 right? [11:34] Launchpad bug 194970 in firefox-3.0 "[Hardy] Incorrect .desktop files" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/194970 [11:34] thought only me and gnomefreak are that weak :) [11:34] welcome! [11:34] ;) [11:35] heh... Hello, my name is Saša, and I'm weak :). Be back soon. [11:35] gnomefreak: not sure. pleaes check on bzr branch if i committed that [11:35] and if i uploaded that ;) [11:35] https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~saivann/sunbird/fix_desktop_file [11:35] usually i drop a message when merging changes to bzr branches [11:35] so i doubt i did this [11:36] he shows entry but for some reason doesnt name a version so i will compare files sinc eyour not sure [11:38] i think i missed to merge it [11:38] should do it asap then [11:38] bug me bout it later please [11:38] seeems it was fixed [11:38] my sunbird.desktop is the same as http://launchpadlibrarian.net/12198983/sunbird.desktop [11:39] so i will mark it in changelog to get that bug closed atleast for sunbird. [11:41] also need to find out how to use the bird icon but not so much for Hardy [11:42] gnomefreak: you can mark that branch as "merged" [11:42] thanks [11:43] merged where? [11:43] i will have latest bzr once i get everything worked out [11:44] would changing .desktop to use sunbird-bleh-bleh.png the blehs are because i dont remember name of icon. [11:44] gnomefreak: nevermind [11:45] just mark the bug fixed [11:45] once i finish sunbird i will post it to bzr. and merge into MT bzr [11:45] asac: cant its not fixed [11:45] installing sunbird doesnt use the bird icon it still uses old icon [11:46] gnomefreak: thats a different bug [11:46] this one is about .desktop file translations from what i can tell [11:46] the old icon thing most likely doesnt even have a bug [11:46] ah yes that one i will mark fixed [11:46] if it has its not this ;) [11:47] bug 178785 [11:47] Launchpad bug 178785 in lightning-sunbird "Use icon with bird for launchers" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178785 [11:47] trying to close as many bugs as i can in intrepid hardy for open sunbird bugs [11:48] ok lunchtime [13:07] asac, debian bug 439618. And, since my mail with link to mentors is not showing up, the package is here http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=gnome-voice-control [13:07] Debian bug 439618 in wnpp "ITP: gnome-voice-control - control GNOME desktop with voice" [Unknown,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/439618 [13:29] does anyone use Tbird+ Imap it seems when i get done with email and close Tbird from X in upper right it hangs and i get the do you wish to force quit or wait. im thinking this shouldnt hang. version is 2.0.0.14 no addons other than enigmaillet me know if anyone else sees this please [13:30] gnomefreak: I am, but no hang ups. Have you tried clicking on Wait? [13:31] yes and it closes within a few seconds but i shouldn't get that pop up [13:31] I know... That happens to me when I'm closing gimp [13:31] it didnt happen with only pop3 but since i migrated my pop3 to imap it happens [13:46] I will finish up with what im doing later i have to go to DMV for my car registration and run a bunch of other errrands. [14:09] bumb rc3! [14:09] isn't it only for mac? [14:09] (I thought I read that last night...0 [14:09] ) [14:10] yeah, i read that to [14:10] but still...bumb! [16:05] asac : Just a little reminder for bug 230209 [16:05] Launchpad bug 230209 in thunderbird-locales "upgrade thunderbird locales for 2.0.0.x and include new upstream translations" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/230209 [17:03] <[reed]> armin76: 'tis Apple's fault [17:03] <[reed]> blame OS X 10.5.3 ;) [18:10] hi, i'm back w/ workflow, my branch is ready , should it assign the bug to who now ? : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashblock/+bug/239151 [18:10] Launchpad bug 239151 in flashblock "flashblock crashes firefox3" [Undecided,New] [18:20] Hi all :) [18:21] asac what about FF3.1 in Hardy/Intrepid? [18:22] I plan to update my extension in the next days, I have to put 3.1.* as compatibility check? [18:28] asac_, asac wasn't here? :) === asac_ is now known as asac [18:41] Volans: which one ? [18:41] Volans: add your ext to the wiki pages [18:41] my ext is already packaged for hardy [18:41] and is in the list of the wiki page [18:42] is interpid usable so far ? [18:42] I want to know only if I can put 3.1.* as firefox compatibility or I must leave 3.0.* [18:42] I don't know if FF 3.1 will be included in hardy [18:42] i cant help [18:43] i guess it'll be in intrepid before hardy [18:43] for an update of an extension the standar procedure is a backport? [18:43] s/standar/standard/ [18:44] the workflow isnt very clear for me [18:45] also for me :) [18:45] i suggested we can set up a wikipage for clarifying this until next meeting [18:47] good idea [18:47] I hope I can meet the meeting [18:49] now I have to go, thanks rzr. I will ask asac tomorrow... [18:50] he was here this morning [18:50] no problem, is not an urgent task :) [18:50] thanks [18:50] bye bye [18:58] why is the ubuntu version on the latest firefox package 3.0 and not 3.0~rc2? [18:58] 3.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 [18:59] haha [18:59] paran: because rc2 should be the final one, so this way it doesn't get reuploaded [19:00] Can an extension licensed with the Educational Community License be packaged for Ubuntu? [19:01] Here's a link for the license: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/ecl1.php [19:01] armin76: that is quite confusing imho.. anyway, there is rc3 on mozilla.com right now :) [19:01] And the extension in question is Zotero, http://www.zotero.org/ [19:02] It's a bibliography management extension that works with OpenOffice.org. Sort of like EndNote, if anyone knows that. [19:03] paran: don't look at me, i don't even use ubuntu :) [19:03] paran: and yeah, rc3 is out, but only contains fixes for mac [19:05] <[reed]> the binary for linux and windows are the same ones as rc2 [19:09] but it contains the si langpack, must have :D [19:55] Oops, is this not the right place to ask? (It says to ask here Packaging page in the Ubuntu wiki...) And too, I have more experience with busy channels where it's necessary to kind of butt in. Anyway, should I take my question somewhere else or something like that? Thanks :) [20:21] sybille_, maybe you could try asking in #ubuntu-motu. Also, when you ask, please mention if it's ECL 1 or 2, since they are different. [20:22] I'm not really sure if that is the right place to ask, but there is a greater chance that someone will answer. :) [20:30] Thank you. And FWIW, the license is ECL 1. === willguaraldi_ is now known as willguaraldi [22:08] sybille_: add your extension to the wiki page in the table that has "missing information" ... we will review and come back to you if you add yourselve ad QA contact [22:10] Thanks, will do. [22:10] Hey, asac... got a moment? [22:11] Jazzva: well. sure, unless it requires much thinking ;) [22:11] Well, diff is quite small ;). [22:11] And you already saw it [22:12] * asac ponders his brain to memorize this moment [22:12] * asac ENORESULT :) [22:12] Jazzva: link? [22:12] debian bug 439618 [22:12] Debian bug 439618 in wnpp "ITP: gnome-voice-control - control GNOME desktop with voice" [Unknown,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/439618 [22:12] ah [22:13] heh :) [22:13] you havea debian package finished? is it in bzr` [22:13] ? [22:13] there's a link to the mentors.d.n [22:13] ok [22:13] in the bugreport [22:14] * asac updates sid chroot [22:14] yay :) [22:15] 355 upgraded, 46 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [22:15] Need to get 313MB of archives. [22:15] After this operation, 116MB of additional disk space will be used. [22:15] damn... [22:15] ok its running [22:15] lets stay tuned ;) [22:15] BTW, what does DM status gives me? Just official bug report contact, right? [22:15] Get:65 http://ftp.de.debian.org sid/main cpp-4.3 4.3.1-2 [3351kB] [22:16] Jazzva: err, DM status? [22:16] ah, debian maintainer? [22:16] Debian Maintainer [22:16] ok [22:16] yeah thats relatively new [22:16] once you are Debian Maintainer you can upload packages [22:16] to debian [22:16] .e.g. dedicated packages [22:17] That is, the one where I'm mentioned as Uploader in debian/control? [22:17] like a DD has to ved that you are supposed to upload gnome-voice-control [22:17] then you dont need a sponsor next time [22:17] Jazzva: no thats a special header [22:17] Ah, cool :) [22:17] not sure about the syntax now [22:17] Jazzva: apply for it [22:17] (not sure what the requirements are) [22:17] Apply for what? [22:17] Debian Maintainer Status [22:18] if you could figure out the process and explain to me I'd appreciate that [22:18] if you need a vote or a DD as backup, i can give it to you [22:18] :) [22:19] Heh... I thought you become a DM automatically when you maintain a package. At least, it seemed logical :). Ok, I'll look into debian's docs [22:19] Jazzva: no its a formal step to at least ensure that Debian can trust you [22:19] i am not sure about the procedure as it was established like 6 month ago [22:20] but i think someone has to enable your Debian Maintainer account and once that is done you can upload for packages that have you as DM-Uploader or something [22:20] Jazzva: what i recall its just a manual step to register your GPG key and associate that with you [22:20] Uh-huh. Ok, I'll look [22:24] anyone know anything about lightning? and accessing a remote calendar? === jimmy is now known as Guest92012 [22:40] asac, I found this http://wiki.debian.org/Maintainers [22:41] Basically, I need a DD to sign my gpg key and to advocate me. [22:41] (one DD at least) [22:43] And I must edit debian/control to add DM-Upload-Allowed field, to be able to upload it as a DM [22:48] Jazzva: dont be too hurry , i've been applying for years now :) [22:49] Actually most of the maintainer job can be done for non-DD [22:50] I'm not planning to apply for a DD at the moment... Just thought of applying for a DM maybe. [22:50] rzr ^ [22:51] then the sponsorting hunt is open [22:52] heh :) [22:52] joining a team could help [22:53] Team? [22:53] yea alioth [22:53] Oh... :) [22:54] rzr: you mean at alioth.debian.org? [22:54] yes [22:54]