[00:14] <Techiedragon> running 8.04 server - is there anyway to change the display font so I get more on the screen?
[00:16] <maw_> is there a up to date 'how-to' for setting up ubuntu server as a reliable NTP server?
[00:17] <owh> maw_: AFAIK it's in the server guide. - see the /topic
[00:18] <maw_> thanks, I stumbled across this while googling
[01:29] <lukehasnoname> what up yo, nxvl
[02:25] <Jberg88> hello?
[02:25] <Jberg88> anyone
[02:26] <Jberg88> How can I access my server via ssh remotely... i was at work today and tried me@myip but it didn't work
[02:26] <ScottK> Did you install openssh-server?
[02:26] <Jberg88> yes
[02:27] <ScottK> Can you do it from a desktop at home?
[02:27] <Jberg88> hold on
[02:28] <Jberg88> I can but only using the static ip of the server
[02:28] <ScottK> Did you try the same from work?
[02:29] <hads> You'll need DNS for anything else.
[02:36] <ScottK> Jberg88: You're welcome.
[02:37] <sommer> ScottK: I'll take a look
[02:37] <ScottK> sommer: Thanks.
[02:39] <Jberg88> it works woohoo!
[03:22] <pubo> hi
[03:22] <pubo> I'm looking for a web application to maintain system accounts (like webmin, but I only want the system accounts part)... can anybody help me?
[03:29] <ScottK> !ebox | pubo
[03:31] <pubo> ScottK, ubottu, yes, I know ebox. But I only that the person who is going to maintain user account could not configure anything more
[03:32] <ScottK> That's the only other one I know of.
[03:34] <pubo> uhm, ok.. I'll try
[04:14] <maw_> anyone know how to enable ethernet flow control?
[05:16] <Brazenn> maw: i think ethtool can do that.
[05:19] <maw_> ya I got it
[05:20] <maw_> and you were right :)
[05:36] <thenewguy> hey how can i setup phpmyamin to run under ssl and is it needed? thanks in advance
[06:10] <keithclark> Why do I get this error when running gnome-system-monitor via ssh?  SELinux was found but is not enabled.
[06:12] <keithclark> And evolution running via ssh creates this error of which I know nothing about: WARNING **: couldn't connect to dbus session bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-F7ZRYqizA8: Connection refused
[06:13] <hads> You have gnome on your server?
[06:13] <keithclark> hads: yes.  It is an old desktop that I used to use
[06:14] <hads> I don't know anything about gnome but try connecting with ssh -X or -Y
[06:16] <keithclark> hads: I am.  ssh -CX user@address
[07:52] <kraut> moin
[09:22] <sp20ngebob> hi at all
[09:23] <CrummyGummy> elo
[09:53] <liassist> hello, i have just got my ubuntu-server from the company but there this little problem "there is no gui" so any suggestions on a gui suited for servers
[09:57] <owh> liassist: It depends on what you want to achieve with the GUI.
[09:58] <owh> !gui
[09:58] <owh> Hmm
[09:58] <liassist> normal server topic (i never want gnome or kde)
[09:58] <owh> !server-gui
[09:59] <liassist> a gui from which i can run a server
[09:59] <owh> liassist: That doesn't answer the question really. You can either manage your server from an ssh or command line terminal screen, or you can manage it using software like ebox.
[09:59] <owh> Personally, I'm an ssh user.
[10:00] <liassist> ok so what exectly is ebox i currntly dont have a browser right now
[10:00] <owh> liassist: It's a web-based interface.
[10:00] <liassist> ok so there is a deabon needed for that right?
[10:01] <liassist> *deamin
[10:01] <liassist> *deamon
[10:01] <foolano> liassist: which services are you planning to use?
[10:01] <owh> Well from memory it uses apache, so yes.
[10:01]  * owh has to run and waves bye.
[10:02] <liassist> ftp, and back office
[10:03] <foolano> liassist: eBox has not a module to manage an ftp server
[10:03] <liassist> ok what about pop3
[10:03] <liassist> and smtp
[10:04] <foolano> yep, it has that. it uses postfix and courier
[10:04] <foolano> liassist: but that package is not in the ubuntu repositories, you will have to install it from my ppa
[10:05] <liassist> my ppa?
[10:06] <foolano> ppa -> Personal PAckage Archives, its a service in launcpad to build and publish ubuntu packages
[10:08] <foolano> liassist: if you want to test eBox and you have a spare machine or a virtual machine, you can download the installer from http://ebox-platform.com. The installer is a hardy server with all the eBox modules and its dependencies
[10:12] <liassist> well se ya later
[11:46] <Klej> some1 hereee
[11:58] <logixoul> Hi. I installed Hardy Server Edition on a VIA EPIA box but when booting I get this error:
[11:58] <logixoul> Hi. I installed Hardy Server Edition on a VIA EPIA box but when booting I get this error:
[11:58] <logixoul> er,
[11:58] <logixoul> "this kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: 0:6 0:8. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU"
[11:58] <logixoul> What do I do?
[12:00] <_ruben> you need to install the i386 kernel (atleast, thats how i got my epia mobo to work)
[12:01] <logixoul> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/222253 seems to suggest I need "PAE"
[12:02] <logixoul> _ruben: How do I select which kernel to install? is this related to writing "huge.s" at the boot prompt, to select a "non-SMP" kernel?
[12:02] <logixoul> (got this from http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-installation-40/via-epia-c3-supported-648669/ )
[12:07] <_ruben> PAE is for 4+ GB of ram
[12:08] <_ruben> logixoul: you need to install the appropriate kernel image package (either at the end of the installation prior to rebooting (thats how i did it), or by booting in to a rescue mode)
[12:12] <logixoul> sorry, net dropped. anyone said something?
[12:13] <hads> 23:07:31 < _ruben> PAE is for 4+ GB of ram
[12:13] <hads> 23:08:21 < _ruben> logixoul: you need to install the appropriate kernel image package (either at the end of the installation prior to rebooting (thats how i did it), or by booting in to a rescue mode)
[12:15] <logixoul> oh, I see. thanks.
[12:15] <logixoul> _ruben: hmm, rescue mode == recovery mode, right?
[12:16] <logixoul> booting into recovery mode gives me the same error, so I guess I'll reinstall again.
[12:17] <logixoul> _ruben: where exactly will I be given the chance to select a kernel? The last message I get in the installation is "remove cd and press Enter". Should I wait for that one?
[12:33] <_ruben> logixoul: there's no prompt to select a different kernel .. when it prompts for remove cd, drop to a shell (alt-f2) and do apt-get install linux-386 (or smth similar, been a while)
[12:33] <_ruben> logixoul: you can recover by booting the install disk into recovery mode, or use a live cd
[12:34] <spiekey> hi
[12:34] <spiekey> does vmware-server 1.0.6 install smootly on hard now? has anyone tried that yet?
[12:35] <logixoul> _ruben: hm, linux-386 doesn't seem to exist, and `apt-cache search 386` doesn't show anything
[12:38] <_ruben> ii  linux-386                                             2.6.24.16.18                                          Complete Linux kernel on 386.
[12:38] <logixoul> that's on Hardy Server? weird, I get "Couldn't find package linux-386"
[12:39] <logixoul> maybe I should add some repo?
[12:39] <_ruben> $ apt-cache madison linux-386 linux-386 | 2.6.24.16.18 | http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/restricted Packages
[12:40] <_ruben> linux-image-386 is in main though
[12:42] <logixoul> Ok, any ideas why I don't see neither linux-386 nor linux-image-386 in this rescue prompt?
[12:42] <logixoul> sources.list includes both main and restricted
[12:42] <logixoul> ahh, maybe I should apt-get update
[12:42] <logixoul> but I've no network in this prompt
[12:43] <_ruben> the cd should be abail
[12:43] <_ruben> avail
[12:47] <logixoul> sources.list doesn't include mentions of the CD. should append it there manually?
[12:48] <_ruben> it oughta be at the very top, unless the rescue mode is different .. on a decent install machine, the cdrom is listed on the very top
[12:49] <_ruben> you're probably in some temp environment now, you'd need to chroot into your installation and work from there .. or just reinstall .. whichever suits you best :)
[12:49] <logixoul> ooh, right, it's there sorry. it's commented out though.
[12:49] <_ruben> ah ok
[12:49] <logixoul> but this dumb terminal doesn't support any editor like vi or nano...
[12:50] <logixoul> how do I remove this single hash commenting sign from there? should I use ed? :)
[12:50] <logixoul> hm, maybe I'll backup the file and `cat` the line in there
[12:51] <_ruben> you're not in the right environment .. as in: not in your installation .. you should mount your installation under /mnt and do chroot /mnt
[12:51] <micheluntu> hi all, I have a question about hot to configure apache2 to listen on IPv6 address
[12:52] <logixoul> _ruben: no, actually I was asked whether I wanted "prompt in the livecd fs" or "prompt in the installation fs" or a few other things and I selected the installation fs. /home/myusername exists, so it's the right place.
[12:59] <ScottK> foolano: Have you considered an anti-spam module to go with your Postfix stuff?  I was reviewing the amavisd-new docs last night and there is some serious potential for complexity in it, but it's very powerful.
[12:59] <ScottK> foolano: I think with that plus spamassassin and clamav you'd have a very powerful feature.
[13:00] <foolano> ScottK: we have that already
[13:00] <foolano> exactly that
[13:00] <logixoul> _ruben: so I uncommented the line, but "apt-get update" returns with no visible delay and "apt-cache search linux-386" still returns nothing.
[13:01] <foolano> ScottK: we have to add greylisting and rework the UI
[13:01] <ScottK> foolano: Interesting.
[13:01]  * ScottK hadn't looked.
[13:01] <ScottK> foolano: The new version of amavisd-new I uploaded last night has some significant additions too.
[13:01] <logixoul> _ruben: I'll try booting with the proper network interface this time, so I can get the package from the online repos
[13:02] <foolano> ScottK: cool, i'll look at it soon
[13:02] <ScottK> foolano: Which greylisting implementation do you intend to support?
[13:04] <foolano> ScottK: we don't know yet, some users have proposed a few but we haven't made our mind up yet. We would like to hear from people who are actually using it. So any idea/recommendation is very welcomed
[13:04] <foolano> ScottK: by the way, I would like to ask you a couple of things about postfix that I still have to work out in our ebox-mail package
[13:05] <ScottK> foolano: I'd suggest writing the ubuntu-server ML about what greylisting people use.
[13:05] <ScottK> foolano: Sure.  Ask away.
[13:05] <ppp> Hiyas :) Basically I just want to allow tcp port 9000 from 192.168.10.3 only in UFW :) Anyone know the command?
[13:06] <ppp> sudo ufw allow 9000/tcp from 192.168.10.3 wasnt happy :)
[13:10] <ppp> I figured it - sudo ufw allow proto tcp from 192.168.10.3 port 9000
[13:10] <ppp> thanks anyway
[13:12] <foolano> ScottK: i'm working on something else right know. If it's fine i'll bother you with those questions later
[13:12] <foolano> s/know/now/
[13:12] <ScottK> Sure.  Anytime I'm around.
[13:14] <logixoul> _ruben: neither network interface seems to work now, but in the previous dapper install (which someone else did) it worked. I'm trying to configure the network now...
[13:27] <micheluntu> is anyone using apache2 on IPv6?
[13:36] <logixoul> _ruben: I managed to get it working with the "generic" kernel. thanks for the help!
[13:51] <lukehasnoname> good morrow to thee Britons
[13:57] <jjesse> lol
[13:57] <jjesse> good mornng lukehasnoname
[14:13] <Brazen> Are you saying we have bad teeth?
[14:16] <lukehasnoname> I've heard y'all do
[14:20] <lukehasnoname> bug #2
[14:55] <Brazen> ha, nice
[15:01] <lukehasnoname> ok when I think of "load balancing" I think of auto-live-migration between physical hosts for best utilization of resources
[15:01] <lukehasnoname> am I correct in that assumption?
[15:07] <The_ZoRo> usually, no. It means to split inconning requests between backend servers
[15:08] <The_ZoRo> what you are thinking of is HA :)
[15:08] <The_ZoRo> High availability :)
[15:10] <lukehasnoname> I see
[15:16] <_ruben> its not even HA .. the only example of what was described is the VMware's DRS functionality
[15:16] <_ruben> HA is usualy just failover from one node to another when the first crashes
[15:18] <lukehasnoname> so only VMWare's tools can do that?
[15:19] <lukehasnoname> Cause that's an awesome feature. Of course, that comes AFTER we get a VM manager gui, and AFTER that gui can do manual live migration
[15:23] <Brazen> yes, you are describing VMWare's DRS, which is basically a sort of virtual machine load balancing.  I remember reading either Emo or oVirt (or both) is going to support similar functionality.
[15:33] <jjesse> are you talking about the ability to move physical machines to virtual machines and back again?
[15:33] <jjesse> cause symantec has a product taht can do p to v and v to p
[15:33] <jjesse> for recovery
[15:33] <jjesse> its pretty cool
[15:33] <jjesse> but nothing open that i'm aware
[15:34] <lukehasnoname> no,
[15:35] <lukehasnoname> I'm talking about... hold on I'll get link
[15:35] <lukehasnoname> http://www.vmware.com/products/vi/vc/drs.html
[15:41] <jjesse> that looks cool
[15:45] <lukehasnoname> yes, yes it does
[15:46] <lukehasnoname> Once live migration gets managed, I wouldn't think DRS would be hard
[15:47] <lukehasnoname> It's simply automating the LM process, triggered by comparing CPU cycles
[15:47] <lukehasnoname> more or less, Iwould think, maybe <_<
[16:19] <lukehasnoname> Man, it dies in the Ubuntu channels sometimes, across the board
[16:29] <lukehasnoname> http://xkcd.com/233/
[16:35] <sommer> poor littlefoot :(
[17:25] <Brazen> !test
[18:12] <zul> mathiaz: ping! can you have a look: people.ubuntu.com/~chucks/ldap-sru.diff thanks
[18:16] <lukehasnoname> Good read
[18:58] <brewmaster_> anyone know if i can tell if my site is blacklisted by corporate firewalls?
[18:59] <lukehasnoname> what site
[19:00] <brewmaster_> www.montrealvip.com
[19:01] <lukehasnoname> is it work-safe?
[19:02] <brewmaster_> yeah
[19:02] <brewmaster_> though it could be confused for not being work safe
[19:03] <brewmaster_> i remember my mom seeing it for the first time and saying "oh my, this looks like a gentleman's club" --> I still don't know what that means...
[19:03] <thenewguy> hey guys, how can i configure phpmyadmin to work over ssl
[19:07] <sommer> thenewguy: there's some information in the server guide about configuring apache for ssl: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/httpd.html
[19:08] <thenewguy> sommer: Thanks i have done that, but do i need change anything pma
[19:08] <sommer> pma?
[19:09] <sommer> phpmyadmin is simply a website so if you configure apache to use ssl then phpmyadmin will use ssl as well :)
[19:09] <sommer> er web application to be more accurate heh
[19:12] <thenewguy> hmm thanks
[19:13] <sommer> and you access the site using https://yousite/phpmyadmin (or whatever url you use)
[19:34] <melter> is there any way to control on which drive the installer puts the mbr?
[19:36] <lukehasnoname> it puts it on either root or boot partition's drive, I would guess. In that sense, yes.
[19:39] <Indiana> Hi all, my server had generated many empty UDP packages to a single ip. rkhunter and chkrootkit doesn't show any (unknown) warnings. Also top (atop) doesn't show any unkown prozess.
[19:41] <Indiana> Any idea or method to find out more?
[19:42] <melter> lukehasnoname, so whichever drive has the /boot partition has the mbr?
[19:42] <lukehasnoname> I don't know, that's an educated guess
[19:45] <ScottK> In case there is any confusion on the point: I am not a free private help service.  Please don't PM me with questions about how to do/fix stuff.
[19:51] <lukehasnoname> I dare to assume that is not the first time it's occured
[21:04] <jambooda> Hey All,  Is there a reason why Ubuntu Server 6.06.2 will install on my Dell R805 but Ubuntu Server 8.04 won't?
[21:04] <jambooda> I tried multiple CD's for hardy and nothing
[21:06] <lukehasnoname> what sort of errors?
[21:06] <jambooda> it gets to the where it says "ISOLINUX Debian ....."
[21:06] <jambooda> then its supposed to say Loading ......
[21:07] <jambooda> but doesn't get to that point
[21:07] <jambooda> no errors
[21:07] <jambooda> just hangs
[21:07] <jambooda> it goes through just fine with Dapper release 2
[21:07] <lukehasnoname> I assume you verify the CD integrity
[21:08] <jambooda> well i tried multiple cd's but did not check to see if any of those cd's will install on another machine
[21:08] <jambooda> will do that now
[21:12] <jambooda> it was the cd
[21:13] <jambooda> thanks..nevermind
[21:28] <ghaleb> hello, I need to install gnome to my ubuntu hardy server
[21:28] <ghaleb> but it couldn't be
[21:29] <ghaleb> failed by deps
[21:29] <ghaleb>  gnome: Depends: gnome-desktop-environment (= 1:2.20.2.2) but it is not going to be installed
[21:29] <ghaleb> E: Broken packages
[21:37] <thenewguy> u are installing it using apt-get?
[21:42] <zul> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop should do it
[21:47] <Xcaliber009> <---- looking for help setting up apache and exim4 on a server, having problems with setting up an FQDN and not sure why
[21:48] <Xcaliber009> constantly getting a "cannot resolve <hostname> when restarting apache2 and exim4 after editing conf files
[21:57] <ScottK> Xcaliber009: Is this static or dynamic assignment?
[22:01] <Xcaliber009> ScottK: Static- It's sole purpose for now is to run a mailing list through mailman
[22:02] <ScottK> Xcaliber009: Please pastebin what's in /etc/network/interfaces
[22:03] <Xcaliber009> ScottK: it already has a static IP address via the web (68.189.29.73), the "It works" page shows up, but the DNS hasn't been resolved yet
[22:03] <Xcaliber009> ScottK: but that's another issue entirely
[22:03] <Xcaliber009> ScottK: one moment
[22:03] <ScottK> OK.  Is the hostname correct there too?
[22:04] <Xcaliber009> ScottK: I have the hostname from godaddy.com as mailman.velociter.net, the hostname on the box is mailman and the domain is velociter.net
[22:04] <ScottK> What does uname -a on the box tell you?
[22:05] <ScottK> Err... hostname -f
[22:06] <Xcaliber009> Unknown Host
[22:07] <ScottK> How about just hostname
[22:07] <Xcaliber009> mailman
[22:08] <ScottK> Now, how about /etc/network/interfaces please?
[22:09] <Xcaliber009> I'm not sure how to paste it, im IRC via my kubuntu laptop
[22:09] <Xcaliber009> i can give you line-for-line though
[22:09] <ScottK> OK.
[22:09] <ScottK> Wait one.
[22:10] <Xcaliber009> I've got a thumb drive, so i'll try that
[22:11] <ScottK> No rush.
[22:11] <ScottK> I'm looking for a bug.
[22:11] <ScottK> I want to make sure I remember correctly before sending you on a hunt.
[22:12] <Xcaliber009> auto lo
[22:12] <Xcaliber009> iface lo inet loopback
[22:12] <Xcaliber009> iface eth1 inet static
[22:12] <Xcaliber009> address 192.168.1.107
[22:12] <Xcaliber009> netmask 255.255.255.0
[22:12] <Xcaliber009> gateway 192.168.1.1
[22:12] <Xcaliber009> auto eth1
[22:12] <Xcaliber009> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[22:12] <Xcaliber009> there is the text from the /etc/network/interfaces
[22:15] <ScottK> Xcaliber009: Pastebin next time please.
[22:15] <ScottK> !pastebin | Xcaliber009
[22:16] <Xcaliber009> will do that next time :-)
[22:16] <Xcaliber009> <--- n00b to IRC too
[22:16] <ScottK> Xcaliber009: Sorry I wanted /etc/hosts.  Remembered wrong.
[22:17] <Xcaliber009> ScottK: ok one moment
[22:17] <ScottK> Xcaliber009: See Bug #8980
[22:22] <Xcaliber009> ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19724
[22:23] <Xcaliber009> how would I view that bug?
[22:25] <ScottK> Xcaliber009: There's a bot that should have give a URL.  One moment.
[22:26] <ScottK> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcfg/+bug/8980
[22:26] <ScottK> What happens if you have http://paste.ubuntu.com/19725/ (that's tabs between the IP address, FQDN, and hostname.
[22:31] <Xcaliber009> that seems to work, hostname -f brings up the correct alias for the IP, so now it should resolve the hostname just fine due to it being a FQDN, right?
[22:32] <Xcaliber009> no longer getting that hostname errer *whew*
[22:33] <Xcaliber009> exim should be able to work now as well, though I have to figure out how to configure it to talk with our outside mail server
[22:34] <ScottK> Why Exim and not Postfix?
[22:34] <Xcaliber009> I thought exim might be easier
[22:35] <Xcaliber009> if you recommend postfix, I can easily install that
[22:36] <Xcaliber009> does postfix integrate better with SMTP servers outside of the network?
[22:36] <ScottK> I can't compare 'better' because I've never used Exim.
[22:37] <ScottK> Postfix does have a setup option exactly for that.
[22:37] <Xcaliber009> ah ok...
[22:37] <Xcaliber009> will exim4 conflict with postfix if theyre both running?
[22:37] <ScottK> Postfix and Exim are both supported packages, but Postfix is the primary MTA for Ubuntu.
[22:37] <ScottK> Yes.  You can only have one installed at a time.
[22:38] <Xcaliber009> ok one moment, i'll remove the packages
[22:38] <ScottK> When you install one the other will automatically be removed.
[22:38] <Xcaliber009> that makes it easier :-
[22:38] <Xcaliber009> )
[22:39] <Xcaliber009> any other postfix packages I should install, or just the basic postfix package?
[22:43] <Xcaliber009> ScottK: I wanted the configuration for postfix as internet site, correct?
[22:43] <ScottK> You want to relay your outbound mail through another server, right?
[22:43] <ScottK> Xcaliber009: ^^
[22:44] <Xcaliber009> ScottK: yes
[22:45] <ScottK> Xcaliber009: IIRC the option you want is called internet plus smarthost or something like that
[22:45]  * ScottK needs to run.
[22:46] <Xcaliber009> ok... having a problem removing exim anyways, its crashing trying to remove the exim4-daemon-heavy
[22:47] <Xcaliber009> restarting the server and deactivated the exim service prior too reboot
[22:53] <Xcaliber009> ScottK: ok installing postfix, then installing mailman afterwards
[22:56] <Xcaliber009> ScottK: That part is done and Mailman is reinstalled
[22:56] <Xcaliber009> didn't bring up the configuration though for postfix
[23:02] <telexicon> so that xen kernel networking bug is still not fixed?
[23:07] <Xcaliber009> telexicon: it would appear that way :-)
[23:07] <telexicon> >.>
[23:08] <telexicon> damnit, i dont want to deal with this today
[23:11] <Xcaliber009> telexicon: what seems to be the problem?
[23:11] <Xcaliber009> telexicon: my error might have been different from yours, I didn't realize you'd just joined the channel
[23:11] <telexicon> oh, well nothing other than 8.04 cant be a xen guest
[23:12] <Xcaliber009> ie as in you can't remote term?
[23:12] <telexicon> no, as in it panics on boot
[23:13] <Xcaliber009> I have not witnessed that issue, however, my server is probably different than yours
[23:13] <telexicon> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/218126
[23:13] <telexicon> it was reported 2 months ago
[23:16] <Xcaliber009> have you scrolled down through the fixes? I saw one person that was successful in using a fix to remedy the problem
[23:17] <telexicon> theres a hack to make it work
[23:17] <telexicon> but it'd be nice if it was put into proposed or pushed mainstream
[23:17] <Xcaliber009> yeah the update manager is a bit easier to use :-)
[23:17] <telexicon> no
[23:17] <telexicon> its when the system goes down, and takes a bunch of core services offline
[23:18] <telexicon> i dont get fired for using some hack on some bug tracker
[23:18] <Xcaliber009> is this problem only in hardy?
[23:18] <telexicon> yeah
[23:18] <Xcaliber009> i didn't see anything about it on gutsy
[23:19] <telexicon> it doesnt happen with gutsy
[23:21] <Xcaliber009> do you benefit more by using 8.04 vs 7.10? I was using 7.10 until about 2 weeks ago
[23:23] <telexicon> selinux actually works on 8.04
[23:25] <Xcaliber009> it works on 7.10 as well i believe, just might be better to migrate back to 7.10 until the bug is resolved in the kernel
[23:27] <thenewguy> have they fixed otrs
[23:27] <telexicon> Xcaliber009, ive never been able to get it to work in any debian-derived system until ubuntu 8.04
[23:27] <telexicon> it always explodes into a pile of nonsense on reboot when enforcing