[00:25] <apachelogger> KdeSudo is a frontend for sudo. Unlike kdesu, it uses sudo rather than su as backend. See [WWW] its page at Launchpad.
[00:25] <apachelogger> wonderful sentence
[03:49] <skreech> Hey
[05:06] <nixternal> hola
[05:11]  * skreech waves
[05:22] <ScottK> nixternal: I added a use case to my server flavor spec that might be up your alley.
[05:32] <nixternal> ScottK: rock on...I will look over it this weekend more than likely
[05:32] <nixternal> tomorrow is our 1.1 release day so I will be super AFK all day and night
[06:41] <nixternal> !nixternal > nixternal
[06:41]  * nixternal beds now
[06:41] <nixternal> g'nite
[06:47] <Jucato> aw... missed nixternal..
[08:50] <Arby> morning
[08:55] <Tonio_> hi there
[09:03] <apachelogger> Riddell: kopete-plugin-thinklight can be moved to -updates ... bug 221531
[09:03] <apachelogger> g'morning Tonio_ and Arby
[09:04] <Tonio_> hey apachelogger
[10:25] <Riddell> apachelogger: I don't move things to -updates, that's pitti
[10:25] <apachelogger> k
[10:39] <etretyak> hi everyone
[10:40] <Riddell> morning etretyak
[11:08] <etretyak> Riddell: so, i've started with system config printer.. :)
[11:08] <etretyak> Riddell: should i merge with latest svn version of gnome system config printer?
[11:08] <etretyak> Riddell: i mean cupshelpers.py and other
[11:12] <etretyak> Riddell: and should I create my own branch in LP for the system-config-printer?
[11:19] <etretyak> Riddell: also I see some branch from nosrednaekim: SystemConfigPrinter-ekim
[11:23] <Riddell> etretyak: yes merge gnome system config printer as far as sensible
[11:23] <Riddell> etretyak: nosrednaekim's branches should be merged in but you can check that too
[11:23] <etretyak> ok
[11:24] <Riddell> etretyak: I'd trust you plenty enough to use the main branch, use your own if you're doing anything that might not be good to merge in
[11:25] <Riddell> etretyak: you might find it a good place to start to reorder all the methods into the same order as gnome system config printer
[11:27] <Riddell> etretyak: obviously the first thing to do is remove the lines which hide the printer specific widgets
[11:28] <etretyak> Riddell: yes, I saw this
[13:34] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: hey
[13:34] <Trevelyan`> If anyone is interested this explains what is wrong with ubuntu 8.04 initrd that causes persistent to fail: http://paste.debian.net/6374/. you may want to post it somewhere or file it against a bug
[13:35]  * Hobbsee waves
[13:36] <Trevelyan`> calling mount -o mode=755 will fail far all but a small number of fs types. its ok for tmpfs but not for ext2. this is why livecd/usbpen persistence does not work.
[13:36] <jussi01> Trevelyan`: thanks - we appreciate your input :)
[13:36] <Trevelyan`> np
[13:37] <eagles0513875> is there going to be an update to the persistence wiki
[13:39]  * eagles0513875 wonders why everyone gets quiet when i come in 
[13:40]  * Jucato waves to Hobbsee-dobbsee
[13:41]  * jussi01 bear hugs Hobbsee
[13:42] <eagles0513875>  /me yells group hug Hobbsee
[13:42] <eagles0513875> \me yells group hug Hobbsee
[13:42] <eagles0513875>  /me test123
[13:42] <eagles0513875> O_o
[13:43] <Hobbsee> persistance wiki?  depends if anyone does it
[13:43]  * Hobbsee is very squished, from all the hugging
[13:43] <Jucato> eagles0513875: try to use Ctrl+Enter to "escape" /foo (*if* you're using Konvi)
[13:44] <eagles0513875> Hobbsee: i would do it but there is no point in reworkign it if the bug above is still around
[13:44]  * eagles0513875 hummm
[13:44] <eagles0513875> Jucato: thanks
[13:45] <eagles0513875> the wiki thats up there could be simplified like no other to be honest
[13:45] <Riddell> what's persistent wiki?
[13:46] <eagles0513875> Riddell: the wiki where it tells you how to  get kubuntu onto a pen drive
[13:46] <Riddell> well, it's a wiki, edit
[13:46] <eagles0513875> cannot seem to find the page that i had used
[13:47] <eagles0513875> i tried it out using the wiki but im guessing this bug : http://paste.debian.net/6374/ is related to why i couldnt boot off of it
[14:00] <etretyak> Riddell: hm.. why ppds.py is not in bzr?
[14:00] <etretyak> Riddell: system-config-printer-kde.py depends on it
[14:51] <jjesse> morning
[14:52] <nixternal> mornin'
[14:52] <nixternal> it is muggy out this morning
[14:56] <etretyak> Hi nixternal, jjesse
[14:56] <nixternal> howdy
[14:57] <etretyak> fine, thanks.. at last i've started with system-config-printer-kde ;)
[14:59] <jjesse> howdy
[15:00] <Jucato> nixternal: you got mugged? O.o
[15:00] <nixternal> not yet :P
[15:01] <Jucato> pray not :P
[15:01] <Jucato> nixternal: do you have work on saturdays?
[15:01] <nixternal> heck no
[15:01] <Jucato> hehe ok. I'll just bug you then :P
[15:38] <ScottK> Has anyone seen mhb lately?
[15:39] <Hobbsee> [00:39] [Notice] -NickServ- Last seen  : Jun 10 00:19:22 2008 (3 days, 14:20:20 ago)
[15:41] <jjesse> launchpad running slow for others?
[15:42] <jtechidna> Yes, launchpad has been running slow...
[15:43] <jjesse> figured
[17:40] <apachelogger> Riddell: should new kde4 packages replace the kde3 ones, or still use the -kde4 suffix?
[17:56] <Riddell> apachelogger: replace the kde 3 ones
[17:56] <apachelogger> ok :)
[18:10] <txwikinger> The KDE crash from dapper is back
[18:10] <txwikinger> When you click on the mouse and move it over a window
[18:11] <txwikinger> Or is that an X bug?
[18:14] <apachelogger> vorian: revued kio-ftps and k9copy, bothh need some love :)
[18:23] <apachelogger> smarter: foxkit revued
[18:27] <apachelogger> vore: keurocalc revued
[18:46] <smarter> apachelogger: danke sehr :)
[18:47] <apachelogger> smarter: de rien
[18:49] <smarter> I haven't done any real work for Ubuntu during last months, now that I'm on holiday I don't have any excuse for doing nothing :]
[18:49] <smarter> kdebase-workspace is fixed now?
[19:08] <yuriy> i'm off. will hopefully be back for the end of tutorials day
[19:47] <apachelogger> smarter: btw, foxkit FTBS on intrepid
[19:47] <apachelogger> smarter: make[3]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libSM.so', needed by `src/foxkit'.  Stop.
[23:27] <dBera> what needs to be done to get some developer attention to https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/207157
[23:27] <dBera> this is something that breaks all dbus-aware apps in KDE
[23:29] <Riddell> never come across that, all KDE apps use dbus so everything would be broken
[23:29] <dBera> yup
[23:30] <dBera> well... KDE3 apps dont use dbus that much - otherwise there would have been a flood of bugs
[23:33] <Riddell> it uses hal so dbus needs to be running
[23:34] <Riddell> I don't have kde 3 or beagle so can't test just now
[23:34] <Riddell> seems like beagle just needs to learn to start dbus though
[23:34] <dBera> you dont need beagle ...
[23:34] <dBera> scroll down and you will see people reporting problems for other apps using the session bus
[23:35] <dBera> it isnt fatal to beagle, so I am not that worried personally but I dont see why the session bus should not be started at login
[23:37] <Riddell> dunno, I'm not in a situation to look at it currently, I'll add it to me TODO
[23:37] <dBera> that will be a good thing :-)
[23:38] <dBera> I will watch the bug for expert comments.
[23:38] <dBera> thanks