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RyanPriorIs Intrepid bootable yet?01:17
RussellGeeRyan: Its not in too bad a state01:21
RussellGeeYou should be able to get it to boot ok01:21
DanaGHmm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz-fusion-bcop/+bug/17493102:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 174931 in compiz-fusion-bcop "package compiz-fusion-bcop None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz-fusion-bcop.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/bcop', which is also in package compiz-bcop" [Undecided,New]02:14
DanaGwtf?  I went from git compiz to packaged compiz, and a bunch of settings got trampled on.02:16
DanaGDang, no atlantis2 packaged.  Well, back to git one I go.02:17
DanaGs/one //02:20
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tnncdoes anyone know if the alpha 1 is out yet03:14
RAOFI don't believe so.  There's still work being done to make it installable.03:15
tnncok thanks03:16
gluerwaiting waiting03:16
glueris the gui any different?03:16
RAOFNo, not really.03:21
travkenwhere can i test intrepid ibex? today is 13 june, but in release schedule said that it will be released in 12 june07:26
djouallahhi did the first alpha feature wubi ?10:05
Laneytravken: The alpha didn't happen11:40
LaneySomeone should put this in the topic11:41
travkenhujova11:42
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wd4lkoany word on alpha1 yet ?13:06
Picihttps://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-June/000431.html13:07
wd4lkoPici. Thanks13:08
wd4lkoi have 1 still working good and 2 broke !13:09
WelshDragonIs there any link avaiable yet which lists what's new?14:38
LaneyWelshDragon: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/ ;)14:45
WelshDragonah, Thank you :014:45
WelshDragonDon't suppose anyone knows if the 25 kernel with be included in the first alpha either do they?14:45
LaneyBut no user friendly release-notes style list14:45
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jonnymindHello; How can I upgrade from hardy to devel intrepid?18:03
DoYouKnowhi. Intrepid Ibex Alpha 1: Where is the download site?18:08
PiciDoYouKnow: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-June/000431.html18:10
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DoYouKnowah, I am curious about the desktop redesign especially, but I guess that probably won't be implemented at this early stage18:13
BUGabundotrying to do an update-managre -d18:32
BUGabundogetting:18:32
BUGabundo"Can't install 'ubuntu-desktop'18:32
BUGabundoIt was impossible to install a required package. Please report this as a bug. "18:32
mvoBUGabundo: from dapper? or from gutsy?18:33
BUGabundohardy -> intrepid18:34
mvoBUGabundo: oh, that is quite likely, there is a lot of flux in the system currently18:34
mvoit just means that updat-emanager is unable to calculate a upgrade that would preserve ubuntu-desktop18:34
BUGabundohumm can it be due to having a line for interpid reps on apt sources?18:34
mvolet me check18:35
BUGabundoso to upgrade should I do a apt-get dist-upgrade ??18:35
mvoyes, I would recommend a vm at this stage though18:36
mvoapt-get idst-upgrade will work, but will remove some stuff18:37
BUGabundoupdate-manage -d with out intrepid line doesn't upgrade18:37
BUGabundoI've been upgradging a few packages by hand18:37
BUGabundosince I have some packages from KDE318:37
BUGabundoand synaptics wants to upgrade to KDE4...18:38
BUGabundoI can't be without my email client, KMail18:38
BUGabundolol18:38
BUGabundoalready done a disk mirror last night just to be safe18:38
BUGabundoI was expecting alpha1 yesterday18:38
BUGabundobut only at night I read the anounce email18:38
PiciWell, its not available.18:38
PiciAnd breakage is to be expected in an alpha.18:39
jonnymindmvo: apt-get didst-upgrade seems not to work.18:39
jonnymind(alone)18:39
BUGabundomvo seem to have gone way18:39
BUGabundolol18:39
jonnymindOps18:40
jonnymindhehe, watched late.18:40
BUGabundo(2008-06-13 18:39:10) mvo left the room (quit: "Ex-Chat").18:40
jonnymindshould I also set some different sources in the /etc files?18:40
BUGabundodist-upgrade should work, if there are lines to intrepid18:40
BUGabundolet me tests with a simulate option on apt-get18:40
jonnymindBUGabundo: that's the point; where I get the lines to intrepid?18:41
BUGabundoThe following packages will be REMOVED:18:42
BUGabundoapt-transport-debtorrent apturl digikam flowscan frozen-bubble gnome-app-install gtkhtml3.14 kdebase-bin kdebase-bin-kde3 kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kdevelop kmail kmailcvt konq-kim konq-plugins konqueror libchromexvmc1 libchromexvmcpro1  libffi4 libft-perl libk3b2 libk3b2-extracodecs libperl5.8 librrds-perl libversion-perl python-launchpad-integration  r-cran-rcompgen ubufox ubuntu-desktop18:42
BUGabundothey are the same as for hardy18:42
BUGabundojust set repositoires to main18:42
BUGabundoand replace with intrepid18:42
BUGabundobut be aware18:42
BUGabundomost certanly your system WILL break18:42
BUGabundojonnymind: $ head /etc/apt/sources.list18:44
BUGabundodeb ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse18:44
shanepardueWhat's the word on the Alpha?18:44
BUGabundodo a: $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s18:44
jonnymindThanks.18:44
jonnymindalso this:18:44
BUGabundojust to be safe, BEFORE18:44
jonnymindhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#How_to_upgrade_from_Hardy_Heron_to_Intrepid_Ibex_.28for_developers_and_bug_reports_only.2918:45
BUGabundoanyone knows that bug, on intrepid that removes the minimize/close/maxize from nautilus/metacity ?18:46
jonnymindthanks all! bye :-)18:48
jonnymindI am on my way18:48
shanepardueIntrepid Alpha? Couple days maybe?18:48
BUGabundodevs are to busy with hardy point release18:49
BUGabundoand there is a bug on the sheadule sites18:50
shanepardueAhh, so is there a new date for the alpha release?18:50
BUGabundoon the hardy one, it says a date, and on intrepid there is a mention of hardys .1 on another date18:50
BUGabundono new date at this point18:50
BUGabundoat least, not one that I know18:50
BUGabundoand not one the wiki18:51
shanepardueThanks! I was wondering if I'd see it..and from what I've heard dist-upgrading to it right now will break?18:51
BUGabundohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule18:51
BUGabundonooooo18:51
BUGabundohardy IS SAFE18:51
shaneparduehardy to intrepid is?18:52
BUGabundoonly intrepid is a two face coin game18:52
BUGabundomost certanly18:52
BUGabundoif you need your system, be ware..18:52
BUGabundoa dist upgrade is not for you18:52
BUGabundodought it should be safe to try on a vmware or virtualbox machine18:52
shaneparduewell, this would be a separate partition, but you think I'll end up bricking the partition?18:52
BUGabundocan't say18:53
BUGabundodidn't try that18:53
BUGabundothere was a time where bug on grub left testers with now bootbal system18:53
shanepardueI'll stick with the VB setup then :)18:53
shanepardueThanks for your help!18:54
BUGabundowho is responsible for ubuntuguide.org?18:54
BUGabundothat page is full of errors18:54
DanaGI recently had foomatic-filters break printing on my system.  Luckily, I had the old deb in my apt cache.18:56
BUGabundoreally DanaG?18:58
BUGabundoI've just seletecd that package for upgrade18:58
BUGabundohumm18:58
BUGabundoshould I remove it?18:58
DanaGJust make sure you can find the old .deb somewhere.18:58
BUGabundohardy CD?18:58
BUGabundolol18:58
DanaGIf the new one breaks it, you can manually 'sudo dpkg -i the_old_deb.deb"18:58
DanaGCD won't have it, but the mirrors should.18:59
BUGabundonaa18:59
BUGabundoI just cancled the donwload18:59
BUGabundowill try it another day18:59
BUGabundolet me look at another package to see if it is broken18:59
DanaGI was getting "foomatic-rip" failing.19:00
BUGabundostrange19:00
BUGabundosynaptic will not let me unmark it19:00
DoYouKnowBUGabundo: what architecture did you do a dist-upgrade on?19:00
BUGabundo64 bits19:00
DoYouKnowok19:00
BUGabundodidn't do a dist upgrade19:00
BUGabundobeen doing a few packages upgrade from hardy19:01
BUGabundonothing BIG or vital19:01
BUGabundofound out that metacity is a bit cranky19:01
BUGabundobut don't see a bug for it19:01
BUGabundoneed to colect more data and report it19:01
BUGabundolots of dependicies failing on KDE packages... :(19:01
BUGabundocan't try the new dolphin19:02
BUGabundothe bummer, is that I reported a bug against encfs19:03
BUGabundoand it was marked as invalid19:03
BUGabundowhen it should be a real bug, and warn ppl, while upgrading19:03
BUGabundomany ppl will lose their stuff that is encripted...19:03
BUGabundofound that metacity bug: #23804919:23
crdlbBUGabundo: gtk-window-decorator needed an update for the latest version of metacity19:38
DoYouKnowwhat is the probability that dist-upgrade will fail entirely at this point?21:14
DoYouKnowdoes it have redundancy21:14
DoYouKnow?21:14
DoYouKnowI'm in virtualbox21:15
allenoncan anyone tell me of a place to find what's included in the 3.64gb dvd version of Ubuntu64?22:01
allenoni'm just not sure why it's so big in size22:01
allenonerr..test?22:07
WelshDragonBoo22:12
DoYouKnowDoYouKnow: 0 Apt-get "god": 122:13
mphillis it too much bad ju ju to release alpha1 on friday the 13th?22:16
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Ekusheymphill, good question ;)22:28
ryancris there any daily isos of intrepid yet? if so where can I find them23:16
WelshDragonNope ryancr23:25
ryancrWelshDragon: thanks, ill wait for alpha 1 then23:26

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