[01:17] Is Intrepid bootable yet? [01:21] Ryan: Its not in too bad a state [01:21] You should be able to get it to boot ok [02:14] Hmm: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz-fusion-bcop/+bug/174931 [02:14] Launchpad bug 174931 in compiz-fusion-bcop "package compiz-fusion-bcop None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/compiz-fusion-bcop.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/bcop', which is also in package compiz-bcop" [Undecided,New] [02:16] wtf? I went from git compiz to packaged compiz, and a bunch of settings got trampled on. [02:17] Dang, no atlantis2 packaged. Well, back to git one I go. [02:20] s/one // === threethirty is now known as threethirty_play === threethirty_play is now known as threethirty_afk- [03:14] does anyone know if the alpha 1 is out yet [03:15] I don't believe so. There's still work being done to make it installable. [03:16] ok thanks [03:16] waiting waiting [03:16] is the gui any different? [03:21] No, not really. [07:26] where can i test intrepid ibex? today is 13 june, but in release schedule said that it will be released in 12 june [10:05] hi did the first alpha feature wubi ? [11:40] travken: The alpha didn't happen [11:41] Someone should put this in the topic [11:42] hujova === dashua__ is now known as dashua [13:06] any word on alpha1 yet ? [13:07] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-June/000431.html [13:08] Pici. Thanks [13:09] i have 1 still working good and 2 broke ! [14:38] Is there any link avaiable yet which lists what's new? [14:45] WelshDragon: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/intrepid-changes/ ;) [14:45] ah, Thank you :0 [14:45] Don't suppose anyone knows if the 25 kernel with be included in the first alpha either do they? [14:45] But no user friendly release-notes style list === dereks_ is now known as dereks === Gumby` is now known as Gumby [18:03] Hello; How can I upgrade from hardy to devel intrepid? [18:08] hi. Intrepid Ibex Alpha 1: Where is the download site? [18:10] DoYouKnow: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-June/000431.html === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [18:13] ah, I am curious about the desktop redesign especially, but I guess that probably won't be implemented at this early stage [18:32] trying to do an update-managre -d [18:32] getting: [18:32] "Can't install 'ubuntu-desktop' [18:32] It was impossible to install a required package. Please report this as a bug. " [18:33] BUGabundo: from dapper? or from gutsy? [18:34] hardy -> intrepid [18:34] BUGabundo: oh, that is quite likely, there is a lot of flux in the system currently [18:34] it just means that updat-emanager is unable to calculate a upgrade that would preserve ubuntu-desktop [18:34] humm can it be due to having a line for interpid reps on apt sources? [18:35] let me check [18:35] so to upgrade should I do a apt-get dist-upgrade ?? [18:36] yes, I would recommend a vm at this stage though [18:37] apt-get idst-upgrade will work, but will remove some stuff [18:37] update-manage -d with out intrepid line doesn't upgrade [18:37] I've been upgradging a few packages by hand [18:37] since I have some packages from KDE3 [18:38] and synaptics wants to upgrade to KDE4... [18:38] I can't be without my email client, KMail [18:38] lol [18:38] already done a disk mirror last night just to be safe [18:38] I was expecting alpha1 yesterday [18:38] but only at night I read the anounce email [18:38] Well, its not available. [18:39] And breakage is to be expected in an alpha. [18:39] mvo: apt-get didst-upgrade seems not to work. [18:39] (alone) [18:39] mvo seem to have gone way [18:39] lol [18:40] Ops [18:40] hehe, watched late. [18:40] (2008-06-13 18:39:10) mvo left the room (quit: "Ex-Chat"). [18:40] should I also set some different sources in the /etc files? [18:40] dist-upgrade should work, if there are lines to intrepid [18:40] let me tests with a simulate option on apt-get [18:41] BUGabundo: that's the point; where I get the lines to intrepid? [18:42] The following packages will be REMOVED: [18:42] apt-transport-debtorrent apturl digikam flowscan frozen-bubble gnome-app-install gtkhtml3.14 kdebase-bin kdebase-bin-kde3 kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kdevelop kmail kmailcvt konq-kim konq-plugins konqueror libchromexvmc1 libchromexvmcpro1 libffi4 libft-perl libk3b2 libk3b2-extracodecs libperl5.8 librrds-perl libversion-perl python-launchpad-integration r-cran-rcompgen ubufox ubuntu-desktop [18:42] they are the same as for hardy [18:42] just set repositoires to main [18:42] and replace with intrepid [18:42] but be aware [18:42] most certanly your system WILL break [18:44] jonnymind: $ head /etc/apt/sources.list [18:44] deb ftp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted universe multiverse [18:44] What's the word on the Alpha? [18:44] do a: $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -s [18:44] Thanks. [18:44] also this: [18:44] just to be safe, BEFORE [18:45] http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#How_to_upgrade_from_Hardy_Heron_to_Intrepid_Ibex_.28for_developers_and_bug_reports_only.29 [18:46] anyone knows that bug, on intrepid that removes the minimize/close/maxize from nautilus/metacity ? [18:48] thanks all! bye :-) [18:48] I am on my way [18:48] Intrepid Alpha? Couple days maybe? [18:49] devs are to busy with hardy point release [18:50] and there is a bug on the sheadule sites [18:50] Ahh, so is there a new date for the alpha release? [18:50] on the hardy one, it says a date, and on intrepid there is a mention of hardys .1 on another date [18:50] no new date at this point [18:50] at least, not one that I know [18:51] and not one the wiki [18:51] Thanks! I was wondering if I'd see it..and from what I've heard dist-upgrading to it right now will break? [18:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyReleaseSchedule [18:51] nooooo [18:51] hardy IS SAFE [18:52] hardy to intrepid is? [18:52] only intrepid is a two face coin game [18:52] most certanly [18:52] if you need your system, be ware.. [18:52] a dist upgrade is not for you [18:52] dought it should be safe to try on a vmware or virtualbox machine [18:52] well, this would be a separate partition, but you think I'll end up bricking the partition? [18:53] can't say [18:53] didn't try that [18:53] there was a time where bug on grub left testers with now bootbal system [18:53] I'll stick with the VB setup then :) [18:54] Thanks for your help! [18:54] who is responsible for ubuntuguide.org? [18:54] that page is full of errors [18:56] I recently had foomatic-filters break printing on my system. Luckily, I had the old deb in my apt cache. [18:58] really DanaG? [18:58] I've just seletecd that package for upgrade [18:58] humm [18:58] should I remove it? [18:58] Just make sure you can find the old .deb somewhere. [18:58] hardy CD? [18:58] lol [18:58] If the new one breaks it, you can manually 'sudo dpkg -i the_old_deb.deb" [18:59] CD won't have it, but the mirrors should. [18:59] naa [18:59] I just cancled the donwload [18:59] will try it another day [18:59] let me look at another package to see if it is broken [19:00] I was getting "foomatic-rip" failing. [19:00] strange [19:00] synaptic will not let me unmark it [19:00] BUGabundo: what architecture did you do a dist-upgrade on? [19:00] 64 bits [19:00] ok [19:00] didn't do a dist upgrade [19:01] been doing a few packages upgrade from hardy [19:01] nothing BIG or vital [19:01] found out that metacity is a bit cranky [19:01] but don't see a bug for it [19:01] need to colect more data and report it [19:01] lots of dependicies failing on KDE packages... :( [19:02] can't try the new dolphin [19:03] the bummer, is that I reported a bug against encfs [19:03] and it was marked as invalid [19:03] when it should be a real bug, and warn ppl, while upgrading [19:03] many ppl will lose their stuff that is encripted... [19:23] found that metacity bug: #238049 [19:38] BUGabundo: gtk-window-decorator needed an update for the latest version of metacity [21:14] what is the probability that dist-upgrade will fail entirely at this point? [21:14] does it have redundancy [21:14] ? [21:15] I'm in virtualbox [22:01] can anyone tell me of a place to find what's included in the 3.64gb dvd version of Ubuntu64? [22:01] i'm just not sure why it's so big in size [22:07] err..test? [22:12] Boo [22:13] DoYouKnow: 0 Apt-get "god": 1 [22:16] is it too much bad ju ju to release alpha1 on friday the 13th? === presroi_ is now known as presroi === evalles_ is now known as effie_jayx [22:28] mphill, good question ;) [23:16] is there any daily isos of intrepid yet? if so where can I find them [23:25] Nope ryancr [23:26] WelshDragon: thanks, ill wait for alpha 1 then