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ftahttp://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/2008/06/firefox_3_language_coverage.html00:00
rzrhi, someone can review my branch https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashblock/+bug/239151 ?00:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 239151 in flashblock "flashblock crashes firefox3" [Undecided,New]00:38
Jazzvarzr, looks good. I suppose the changelog entry will be adjusted at the end :). If there are important changes in the new version, beside the bugfix, maybe it's good to mention them too. And it would be good if you could be sure that it closes the bug.00:51
gnomefreakanyone know of a phone(hardware) you hook up to PC for VoIP?00:52
rzri have a friend that uses a usb on00:52
gnomefreakrzr: do you know the name?00:52
rzri can ask hime the references00:52
rzri know my friend name yes :)00:52
JazzvaGreat ... skype site thinks my locale is czech (cs) instead of serbian (sr... or I think rs is the new one)00:53
gnomefreaknot his the name of the hardware and or service00:53
JazzvaThough, we did use some variants of cs before ... I think00:53
rzrgnomefreak: i think it was designed to be used w/ skype but he uses wengo w/ it00:53
asacoh darn, working since 7:30 ... and already fed up :/07:59
rzrweekend is near08:03
asacyay08:03
rzrasac: can you remind me how to assign a branch for review regarding bug https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashblock/+bug/23915108:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 239151 in flashblock "flashblock crashes firefox3" [Undecided,New]08:05
rzrshould I only change bug status ?08:05
rzrto fix commited ?08:05
rzrwell I'll RTFM this week end :)08:06
asacrzr: ask for your branch to be merged in the release branch08:10
asacbut bug status is more important I would say08:11
rzr<asac> rzr: ask for your branch to be merged in the release branch08:11
rzrisnt it already set ?08:11
asachavent looked ;)08:12
* asac looks at bug08:12
asacrzr: did you "propose for merging" on this page: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rzr/firefox-extensions/flashblock.ubuntu ?08:13
rzrno I just linked to bug and set fix available08:13
asacrzr: ok i asked for merging now08:14
rzri was about to08:14
asac(its not really important after all, but a nice feature of launchpad imo)08:14
asacrzr: FIX: sync upstream via LP : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rzr/firefox-extensions/flashblock.upstream/revision/408:15
asacwhy do you call this a "FIX" ?08:15
rzrit'll fix a bug08:15
asacrzr: ah. ok. consider to use the form we use in changelog08:16
asace.g.08:16
rzrthx, well i'll be back this evening ... I have some rude work to be done until next week08:16
asacFix LP: #XXXXX - flashblock crashes all the time; we fix this by updating to latest08:16
rzrok will do now08:16
asacor something more verbose :)08:16
asacthanks08:16
asacits just a hint. not important as long as the bug is documented in debian/changelog08:17
asaccu around08:17
BombelaHello all11:21
BombelaI have just an question for the mozilla license11:21
Bombelai want use the MPL for my code, but i want sure to understand one point11:21
Bombela(sorry for my bad english)11:22
Bombelai want my code always free : when people modifie it,my code must be redistribued with modification11:22
Bombelaand if an entreprise want use my code in proprietary program, it's must be possible, bu my modified code must be always redistributed11:24
BombelaMozilla license make this ?11:24
asacBombela: I'd suggest to use LGPL if you have those requirements11:27
asacthat allows proprietary software to link against it without requiring the proprietary code to be GPL11:27
asacbut still changes to the LGPL part needs to be redistributed11:27
Bombelabut my code can be embeded in the application11:34
Bombelanot only linked11:35
Bombelait's linked staticly11:35
Bombelaand the LGPL it's only allowed to link dynamicly no ?11:35
Bombela(i will be back later)11:36
asacBombela: hard to say. i think its a matter of how decoupled the code is11:43
asacif you only use public exported API there shouldnt be much a difference11:43
asacif LGPL doesnt suite you then there is not license that fits your needs i guess11:44
asacBombela: but you can always grant more rights.11:44
asacyou could add a clause that explicitly allows you to link statically under conditions: a) only use public API b) modifications to your part are still to be redistributed11:45
Bombelammm cool11:48
Bombelaby what the différence between MPL and LGPL then ?11:50
Bombelai will read more documentation, and thank you for your help.11:50
asacmozilla bug 43868812:01
ubottuMozilla bug 438688 in XPCOM "String formatter fails to format the same argument twice" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43868812:01
asacBombela: MPL is considered not really free by some12:01
asacits more like GPL from what i understand12:02
asacbut i might be just misinformed about MPL12:02
asaci dont care that much about12:02
Bombelaok thank12:59
ftadebian bug 47435314:22
ubottuDebian bug 474353 in cairo "Please enable XCB backend" [Wishlist,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/47435314:22
asacXCB?14:25
ftanm14:25
asacwhat is that?14:25
asacah "X protocol C-language Binding (XCB)"14:26
ftahttp://xcb.freedesktop.org/14:27
ftaasac, I wanted to make flock use the gre plugins/addons so i reused bzXXX_gre_extension_plugin_support.patch from our xul, it doesn't work. do i need something else ?14:29
asachmm14:30
asacbzXXX_autoconfig_in_gre.patch14:30
asacbzXXX_gre_autoreg.patch14:30
asacbzXXX_gre_extension_plugin_support.patch14:31
asactry to take all and see if things improve14:31
asacfta: maybe the addons are not used because they dont have the flock em:id as a targetApplication?14:31
ftai'm looking for plugins 1st.. flash is important for flock14:32
ftabut strace doesn't show anything in /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons14:33
asacfta: well14:33
asacfta: what you really need is a link14:33
asacfrom GRE_DIR/plugins => /usr/lib/xulrunner-addons/14:34
asacsince you dont use system xul you cannot really do taht14:34
asacyou can only decide to either use a flock specific dir _or_ the GRE dir; but not both14:34
asacmakes sense?14:35
ftai can drop that patch then, it's useless14:36
asacyes14:39
jetsaredimanyone know of a way to get kde file dialogs to work with ff3?15:47
rzrback17:31
rzrlet's resume my 2d job :)17:31
rzrfor french speakers : http://blog.racoon97.net/ubuntu-hardy-804-pulseaudio-et-youtube/17:53
ftabof, j'ai PA dans intrepid et ca marche bien maintenant18:17
valenthi18:26
valentasac: I still haven't seen your reply to fedora mailing list so as per your request I'm reminding you18:27
rzrfta: j ai pas trop de crash non plus18:54
VolansHi all :)19:12
Volansasac: are you there?19:12
ftajcastro, asac: flock 2.0 b1 is out, or will be soon (the upstream branch is already tagged). Did you contact the Flock guys already?23:02
jcastrofta: yeap, I made initial contact23:13
jcastrofta: do you have a list of concerns or a bug # or something?23:13
jcastrofta: songbird .6 is now out, so hopefully now they have time to fix our issues. :D23:14
ftalet's hope so :)23:16
ftajcastro, i've listed my concerns in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Ideas/Intrepid (there's a section for flock).23:17
jcastroah rock, I must have missed it when it went  up23:17
jcastroI'll send it along23:17
ftamaybe we need to rephrase a bit, it's just a raw list of points23:19
jcastrok, I'm stepping out for a bit, I'll just send it along on monday or something. Or let me know when. :D23:19
Volansfta: I can ask you how if FF3.1 will be included in hardy or not?23:19
jcastrofta: while I have you here though23:20
Volanss/how//23:20
jcastrofta: do you guys used the "triaged" bug status at all?23:20
ftaVolans, it will not. ff 3.0 final will be in hardy for sure, and subsequent security fixes (such as 3.0.x), but not 3.1.x or higher23:21
Volansok, good, then for my extension a 3.0.* compatibility is enough23:21
ftajcastro, yes, some bugs of our bugs are tagged as triaged.23:22
jcastrofta: are you guys going to move away from like confirmed and stuff to triaged?23:22
ftaVolans, once we have the bot to update the extension packages, i'm thinking about a dedicated ppa with extensions bumped to 3.123:23
Volansgood idea! :)23:25
Volansbut for update an extension the "standard" procedure is to create a backport?23:25
ftajcastro, you may have to ask asac for this bug topic, i'm not good at it. asac worked with bdmurray recently to update/improve our bug workflow23:25
jcastroah ok, cool23:26
jcastrothanks23:26
ftaVolans, i mean, update with a bot in ubuntu+1, so intrepid for now. for hardy, as it needs SRU, maybe it's safer to stay in manual mode23:28
VolansI mean for hardy, you want to made an SRU for every extension update?23:29
ftawe're not supposed to update hardy, just fix critical/security bugs. upstream versions are supposed to remain fixed. backport is different though. we need to think about this.23:31
VolansI don't know if the SRU guys will accept an SRU for a simple FF extension update, I think backport is probably the right solution until an automated system will be created23:34
Volansfor example I have updated my estension today and uploaded the new version on mozilla addons site and I would know what I have to do for the deb package now in hardy23:35
ftayou may bring the topic to the next meeting23:38
Volansok thanks23:39
Volansnow I have to ho to bed... sorry23:39
Volansbye bye23:39

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