[01:09] <DaveKong> If you are using fluxbox and your menu is auto loaded is there some way to have it made explicit so it is easy to modify without recreating a whole new text file?
[01:21] <magic_ninja> i'm recieving an error when i try to copy files to my backup partition, here they are
[01:22] <magic_ninja> 4.829476] ata3.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
[01:25] <magic_ninja> here is another useful error [76957.686746] ata5.00: configured for UDMA/133
[01:35] <natjo> how do i format a thumbdrive?
[01:48] <Skyline969> Could someone please help me with an issue I have?
[01:49] <Skyline969> My installer for Xubuntu has been running for roughly an hour now (Alternate Install CD) and so far it's stuck on something about configuring the generic Linux image.
[01:49] <Skyline969> It's been frozen on that one for roughly 30-40 minutes.
[01:49] <Skyline969> The CPU light keeps going, signaling that it IS doing something.
[01:50] <Skyline969> The hashes on the ISO matched and I checked the CD integrity - is was good.
[01:50] <Skyline969> Still, should it take this long? And if not, what should I do?
[01:52] <gaurdro> What type of system is it and what type of disk did you burn the image to?
[02:06] <litlebuda> Skyline969, you there ?
[02:09] <Skyline969> Sorry, I am now.
[02:09] <Skyline969> I burned it to a Memorex CD-R, and the system is a 32-bit 386.
[02:10] <Skyline969> 128 MB RAM, and roughly a 300 MHz processor.
[02:10] <Skyline969> It handled the Live CD installation of Ubuntu perfectly, but I put in a new hard drive.
[02:10] <Skyline969> I decided to have even more power, so I got the ISO for Xubuntu.
[02:11] <Skyline969> And yes, it's STILL at that part.
[02:12] <gaurdro> you may have to restart the install.  make sure the disk is visibly clean,  when it checks the disk it reads linearly through the data at a fairly low speed but while installing it reads much faster.  j
[02:13] <gaurdro> and if it worked with the livecd you might just go back to that.  the alternate cd really only supports more hardware, but doesn't give you much more control of the system
[03:29] <shane_> hello
[03:30] <shane_> i installed ubuntu hardy and the ran sudo aptget xubuntu to install it went in good and on restart i went session and xfce and all i get is the blue screen of death
[03:39] <Odd-rationale> shane_: do you have the "blue screen" right now?
[03:41] <Odd-rationale> shane_: before you install xubuntu-desktop, you had ubutnu gnome?
[03:41] <shane_> yes
[03:41] <Odd-rationale> shane_: so you have gdm or kdm?
[03:42] <shane_> and when i ran sudo aptget install xubuntu-desktop it went in great but when i restart and chose sesion and sign in i get a blue lockup
[03:43] <Odd-rationale> shane_: everytime? have you tried again?
[03:43] <shane_> umm i wanna say gdm
[03:43] <shane_> yes iv tried a few times now
[03:44] <shane_> what is terminal comand to see what version ubuntu i have now
[03:44] <Odd-rationale> shane_: lsb_release -a
[03:44] <shane_> ubuntu 8.04 hardy
[03:45] <Odd-rationale> shane_: ok try this. go to ctrl+alt_f2 and login there.
[03:46] <Odd-rationale> then do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[03:46] <Odd-rationale> then try "xinit /usr/bin/startxfce4"
[03:46] <shane_> 1 sec i need to bring the other system up so i can still comunicate
[03:46] <Odd-rationale> shane_: ok
[03:52] <shane__> ok
[03:52] <shane__> im in terminal
[03:53] <shane__> ctrl alt f2
[03:53] <Odd-rationale> ok do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[03:54] <shane__> ok
[03:54] <Odd-rationale> shane__: then lets try reomving some config stuff. "rm -rf .cache/ .config/"
[03:55] <Odd-rationale> then try "xinit /usr/bin/startxfce4"
[03:57] <shane__> ok that worked great
[03:57] <shane__> in my session choice it was listed as only xfce
[03:57] <shane__> no 4
[03:58] <Odd-rationale> shane__: that is correct
[03:58] <Odd-rationale> shane__: no try logging out.
[03:58] <Odd-rationale> now
[03:58] <shane__> ok well that last comand u gave got it up perfect
[03:59] <shane__> i just did restart 1 sec ill let yah no
[03:59] <Odd-rationale> shane__: then back in the terminal (ctrl+alt+f2) do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[04:00] <shane__> ok ok it went in xubu no prob now you want me to get f2 sign in
[04:02] <Odd-rationale> shane__: so it logs in ok from the login manager now?
[04:02] <shane__> yah is perfect
[04:02] <shane__> what was the prob
[04:03] <Odd-rationale> shane__: ok good! probably some messed up config file in ~/.config/
[04:03] <shane__> ok well its good know,ty Odd-rationale
[04:04] <Odd-rationale> np
[04:49] <overrider> hey, id like to setup printing to a network printer. have the driver and such; trouble is the printer needs authentication with username and password. how can i make my machine authenticate to the printer before it prints? the mac / windows driver has a username password option in the driver settings, but my driver (cups i guess) has no such option. printer is a konica miniolta c250, thanks for help
[05:24] <bitmouse1> ﻿so uTorrent won't download into my FAT32 partition, says "access denied"... any ideas?
[05:37] <bitmouse1> hmm, how do I give myself write permissions now
[05:48] <Mez|DPC> how do i change the system timezone?
[08:14] <Valsum> Hey
[08:14] <qamxfce> hey
[08:15] <Valsum> a quite stupid question: Thunar allows for file searching, right?
[08:15] <qamxfce> as far i know : no
[08:15] <qamxfce> :(
[08:16] <qamxfce> maybe via plugins, check xfce.org website
[08:17] <Valsum> what application do you use for file searching then, qamxfce?
[08:17] <Valsum> I'd want one that allows for spaces in file names
[08:17] <Myrtti> locate... :-P
[08:18] <qamxfce> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214059
[08:19] <qamxfce>  im not searching for files, tbh
[08:19] <qamxfce> im purist who knows where everything is
[08:19] <Valsum> Thanks :)
[08:19] <qamxfce> :-)
[08:19] <Valsum> BTW Myrtti, nice post at planet ubuntu
[08:21] <Myrtti> thank you
[08:23] <Valsum> np
[08:58] <Mez> how do i change my time/timezone?
[08:59] <qamxfce> xfce settings manager -> organge
[09:00] <qamxfce> check calendar prefs
[09:00] <Myrtti> oh, right, I'm not on my laptop
[09:00] <Mez> qamxfce, nope - dont have a caledar - just a clock
[09:01] <qamxfce> in orange preferences
[09:02] <qamxfce> setting -> settings manager->orange calendar->edit->preferences
[09:02] <Mez> orange calendar?
[09:02] <Mez> wtf?
[09:03] <qamxfce> pick timezone there
[09:03] <qamxfce> in prefs
[09:03]  * Mez sighs
[09:03] <qamxfce> omg
[09:03] <qamxfce> sorry
[09:03] <qamxfce> :D
[09:04] <qamxfce> system->time and date-> unlock
[09:04] <qamxfce> and change it :D
[09:04] <qamxfce> lol, sry
[09:04] <Mez> I' using xubuntu, not ubuntu
[09:04] <Mez> thats
[09:04] <Mez> X F C E
[09:04] <Mez> you know what
[09:05] <qamxfce> thats a part of xubu defauld installation
[09:05] <qamxfce> t
[09:36] <Riotta> hello ;)
[09:44] <medfly> hey folks
[09:45] <medfly> i'm on ubuntu and i want to mess around with my speakers... how do i get playback? (so i can hear what i input into the speaker)
[09:45] <medfly> if thats the word
[09:45] <medfly> er, xubuntu that :p
[10:18] <AlexCONRAD> medfly: you want some media player or so ?
[10:19] <AlexCONRAD> or you could just surf to youtube and get some sound from there
[10:20] <Myrtti> cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp :-P
[10:20] <Myrtti> krhm
[10:21]  * medfly is confused..
[10:22] <medfly> i have a guitar connected to my mic, i want to have playback so i can hear it! :p
[10:24] <kibibyte> hi
[10:24] <kibibyte> do you know some svn browser for ubuntu
[10:25] <medfly> uh.. sudo apt-cache search svn gets some results, pick yer favorite :)
[10:26] <kibibyte> now we use aptitude
[10:26] <medfly> well you can search svn there i guess :p
[11:06] <medfly> the guitar is exactly like a mic, so i just need to get mic playback, and i know theres a way to do it on ordinary ubuntu with gnome-volume-manager orso but i cant get it to work on its own
[12:18] <jarnos> Firefox 3 can't use all its reserved window space after start when opening session.
[12:39] <TheSheep> reserved window space?
[13:33] <anusha> i just started using xubuntu.but on my desktop top panel is missing.can anyone tell me how to get it back
[13:42] <TheSheep> anusha: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' (without quotes), then press enter
[15:40] <LetsGo67> How do I open Phobos links in Ubuntu?
[15:40] <LetsGo67> Phobos ie. iTunes links.
[15:43] <LetsGo67> How do you open iTunes links in Linux?
[15:44] <ablomen>  itunes links?..
[15:45] <LetsGo67> Yes, ie. "phobos.apple.com..."
[15:46] <ablomen> could you like give me a real link?..
[15:47] <LetsGo67> http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/browserRedirect?url=itms%253A%252F%252Fphobos.apple.com%252FWebObjects%252FMZStore.woa%252Fwa%252FviewAlbum%253Fi%253D269730045%2526id%253D269730034%2526s%253D143441%2526partnerId%253D30%2526partnerId%253D30%2526siteID%253DAhNPkT3_JHE-iPevN4ZX3sMHpJX0QxW6ng
[15:47] <LetsGo67> NOT FLOODING!
[15:47] <ablomen> ah that goes to the itunes store?
[15:47] <LetsGo67> Yup.
[15:47] <ablomen> you cant use the itunes store without itunes afaik
[15:47] <ablomen> so thats a no go
[15:48] <LetsGo67> Can you open that link in iTunes?
[15:48]  * ablomen doesnt have itunes
[15:48] <LetsGo67> IE. can you copy paste?
[15:49] <LetsGo67> Why does my iPod work in gtkpod but not iTunes for native Windows and Wine?
[15:49] <cody-somerville> lol
[15:49] <cody-somerville> LetsGo67, Seriousl?
[15:49] <Myrtti> most probably
[15:49] <LetsGo67> Yup.  No joke.  I did the 5 Rs, and still doesn,t work.
[15:51] <LetsGo67> Rhythmbox is such a cheap rip off of iTunes.
[15:51] <LetsGo67> No offense.  :)
[15:51]  * ablomen go's home before he drags himself into a huge discussion
[15:52] <LetsGo67> Good idea ablomen.
[15:52] <ablomen> bye
[15:52] <LetsGo67> Aww I feel bad for myself.
[15:53] <LetsGo67> n e 1 in la house?
[15:54] <LetsGo67> WHY DID ABLOMEN LEAVE EVERYONE?
[15:55] <Myrtti> tut-tut
[15:56] <LetsGo67> What's up tut-tut Myrtti?
[15:56] <Myrtti> no caps, please
[16:03] <Persi_> hi I`d like to set up broadband through wifi, can you help me?
[16:04] <cody-somerville> Persi_, Certainly.
[16:04] <Persi_> that`d be cool
[16:05] <Persi_> wifi itself is installed and connecting properly
[16:05] <Persi_> now I need a way to set up a new connection just like in windows
[16:06] <Persi_> pppoeconf doesnt recognize it as an ethernet connection
[16:06] <Persi_> so I would appreciate any inpit
[16:07] <cody-somerville> So you're looking to access your broadband connection via the wifi router you've set up?
[16:07] <Persi_> yep
[16:15] <Persi_> so...
[16:16] <Persi_> cody-somerville, are you still digging printed volumes of documentation for me? :)
[16:18] <cody-somerville> Persi_, :)
[16:18] <cody-somerville> Persi_, Just use the network manager in the upper right corner
[16:18] <cody-somerville> Left click and select the network
[16:19] <Persi_> well yeah that way I can connect to a wifi network
[16:19] <Persi_> but this is 1st step
[16:20] <Persi_> after that I need to access  broadband connection through it, which is password protected, unlike wifi connection
[16:21] <Persi_> there is a special wizard in windows xp that is called sommething like "establish a new internet connection"
[16:21] <cody-somerville> You do that at the router
[16:21] <cody-somerville> Your router connects to the modem and authenticates
[16:21] <Persi_> it works as if it thought that my wifi connection is the same as any other LAN
[16:22] <cody-somerville> If you've managed to set it up that way, just have it so that your wireless router connects to your modem
[16:22] <cody-somerville> And then have the wireless router act as the gateway
[16:22]  * cody-somerville waves.
[16:22] <steven_> cody i heard you have a tablet
[16:23] <Persi_> sorry something happened
[16:23] <cody-somerville> steven_, I do.
[16:23] <Persi_> so I dont have router
[16:23] <Persi_> windows does it without the router
[16:23] <cody-somerville> Persi_, How do you have wireless?
[16:23] <steven_> cody, which type?
[16:23] <cody-somerville> steven_, LG LT@)
[16:23] <cody-somerville> *LT20
[16:23] <steven_> okay
[16:23] <steven_> i can't get my pen's erase button to work
[16:24] <steven_> i have a toshiba portege m205
[16:24] <Persi_> PCMCIA card that connects to something which may easily be a router which is not accessible to me, hidden in a wall or something
[16:24] <Persi_> I mean, PCMCIA wifi adapter
[16:25] <Persi_> that something from the wall sets up a wifi network and so allows me to access broadband
[16:25] <Persi_> where sets up means acts like server or something, oh I recall its called access point
[16:29] <Persi_> cody-somerville, so can you help me with this problem?
[16:29] <cody-somerville> I'm not familiar with that setup, sorry.
[16:30] <cody-somerville> steven_, pastebin your Xorg.conf?
[16:31] <steven_> k
[16:31] <steven_> hold on
[16:32] <Persi_> ok, thank you
[16:42]  * Dreifinger ben zo terug ff reloggen, brb relogging
[17:07] <jokoon> Hello, I installed the xubuntu package (I have ubuntu installed) on my G4 ibook laptop, and when I log in after I selected the xfce session, it just freezes with a pale blue screen
[17:07] <Odd-rationale> jokoon: try this: press ctrl+alt+f2
[17:08] <jokoon> I did
[17:08] <Odd-rationale> do you see a login prompt?
[17:08] <Odd-rationale> login there
[17:08] <jokoon> the screen was just black
[17:08] <jokoon> I tried ctrl alt f1 f2 etc
[17:08] <Odd-rationale> jokoon: you were not able to login in the console?
[17:09] <jokoon> noes
[17:09] <Odd-rationale> jokoon: just black screen?
[17:09] <jokoon> yes
[17:09] <jokoon> black like a term
[17:09] <jokoon> but no text
[17:10] <Odd-rationale> jokoon: hmm. try a reboot. but don't try to login from the display manager.
[17:10] <jokoon> ok
[17:10] <Odd-rationale> then try ctrl+altf2 and see if you can login
[17:10] <jokoon> I just added the xfce package
[17:10] <jokoon> meta package
[17:10] <jokoon> in the repo thing
[17:11] <jokoon> installed etc
[17:11] <jokoon> why wasnt it installed ?
[17:11] <Odd-rationale> jokoon: did you install xfce4 or xubuntu-desktop?
[17:11] <jokoon> I installed xubuntu desktop
[17:11] <jokoon> but before
[17:12] <jokoon> and I just saw that xfce4 wasn't installed
[17:12] <Odd-rationale> jokoon: were you able to select xfce from the login sessions menu?
[17:12] <jokoon> yes
[17:13] <Odd-rationale> jokoon: let me know when you have the console in ctrl+alt+f2 and have a prompt.
[17:13] <jokoon> okok
[17:13] <Odd-rationale> then we'll try to get it to work...
[17:13] <jokoon> I hit apply when I ticked xfce4
[17:13] <jokoon> i doesnt do anything
[17:14] <Odd-rationale> jokoon: dont try to login from the display manager yet. try to login to a console first...
[17:14] <jokoon> okok
[17:15] <Odd-rationale> jokoon: if there is nothing in ctrl+alt+f2, then try to selet failsafe terminal from the sessions menu.
[17:16] <jokoon> when the box is green
[17:16] <jokoon> it means the package is installed ?
[17:16] <jokoon> I'm gonna reboot
[17:17] <Odd-rationale> jokoon: ok. let me know when you have a console up and ready...
[17:29] <Odd-rationale> when jokoon comes back, can someone tell him that i had to go?
[17:30] <Odd-rationale> tell him that when he get's a console, delete the ~/.cache and ~/.config directories (rm -rf ~/.cache ~/.config) then go back to the login screen, select xfce from the session menu and try logging in again. It should work now...
[17:41] <gaurdro> sure
[18:08] <shane_> goodmorning
[18:08] <shane_> has anyone had any luck running dual monitors with ati radeon1600x pro card yet
[18:11] <shane_> or does anyone know if i can run ati catalyst in xubuntu without probs
[18:13] <Myrtti> you've asked in #ubuntu already?
[18:14] <shane_> no i had try it in kubuntu and had errors
[18:14] <shane_> i believe the catalyst only works in the kde
[18:15] <Myrtti> ubuntu, xubuntu and kubuntu are basically the same system as for what the display driver understands
[18:16] <Myrtti> the guis may differ but the basics under the hood are the same
[18:16] <shane_> ok in xubuntu it gives option to run apps for kde or gnm
[18:16] <shane_> does this affect my situation
[18:16] <Myrtti> shouldn't
[18:17] <shane_> ok ill search around and see if i can find the catalyst in xubuntu
[18:29] <v0lksman> hey all...anyone know what command gets called when you suspend a machine?  Suspend works from the "Quit" menu but not when I close the lid of my laptop
[18:41] <Twinkletoes|W> As xfce is based on GTK, will it run all the gnome stuff?
[18:43] <Myrtti> prolly yes
[18:44]  * Twinkletoes|W thanks Myrtti
[18:44] <Twinkletoes|W> Who the hell would want to use Gnome then?
[18:47] <MrNaz> if i back up my home directory, will that allow me to set up another xubuntu install with my current settings easily just by restoring the dir ?
[18:47] <shane_> i lost my sound and when i check it shows it as ther in lspci any sugestions
[18:47] <Myrtti> MrNaz: yup
[18:48] <Myrtti> Twinkletoes|W: GNOME has it's perks.
[18:48] <Twinkletoes|W> Myrtti: I'd like to know which they are, as I keep floating back to xfce after trying
[18:48] <Twinkletoes|W> (and I don't like brown)
[18:48] <gaurdro> Twinkletoes|W,  you can run programs written for most WM  in xubuntu,  you just need to install the libraries.  ie qt for any kde program
[18:48] <MrNaz> Myrtti including my thunderbird email data ?
[18:49] <Twinkletoes|W> gaurdro: Ah
[18:49] <Myrtti> MrNaz: including your thunderbird email data
[18:49] <gaurdro> you can change those colors in preferences.
[18:49] <MrNaz> coz i want to reinstall xubuntu, because networking is totally broken
[18:49] <MrNaz> wifi just doesnt work
[18:49] <Myrtti> I've got the same home I've had in dapper
[18:49] <Myrtti> I've just backupped it and restored
[18:50] <Myrtti> same bookmarks, same email settings...
[18:50] <MrNaz> it did before i tried testing a wired connection, but when i pulled out the eth cable, now the wifi doesnt work at all
[18:50] <MrNaz> is there a replacement for nm-applet that doesnt suck the rotting remains of dead donkey balls?
[18:51] <Myrtti> might want to give wifi-radar a chance
[18:51] <gaurdro> I'm a fan of kde's network manager   knetworkmanager  but it's a bit on the heavy side,  (especially having to install qt etc for it)
[18:51] <MrNaz> Myrtti ive got that too... was hoping it'd fix whatever is going on
[18:52] <MrNaz> no go
[18:52] <Myrtti> MrNaz: well they're both just frontends to the system that handles the hardware
[18:52] <gaurdro> would you pastebin the output of iwconfig?
[18:52] <Myrtti> so I wouldn't have expected them to fix the problem
[18:55] <MrNaz> gaurdro http://rafb.net/p/gKdDHB67.html
[18:55] <MrNaz> bear in mind that i'm standing on a char with the laptop plugged into the switch with a patch cable, and this whole arrangement is about 7 feet off the ground
[18:56] <MrNaz> pretty much whats happening, nm-applet reports wireless is on, but doesnt see any networks
[18:57] <MrNaz> i know they are there, i have another laptop to check
[18:57] <shane_> anyone able to help find my sound
[18:57] <MrNaz> shane_ the guys in #alsa are awesome for helping with sound issues
[18:57] <shane_> MrNaz: TY
[18:59] <gaurdro> try  "iwconfig wlan0 essid any"    it should allow the front end to do stuff, I've had an issue with the essid goes to "" and it won't connect to anything.
[19:15] <Volkodav_> I am trying to rename a file with mv file file2 and it does not work
[19:16] <gaurdro> what error is it giving you Volkodav_
[19:16] <shane_> ok looking for help with sound in xubuntu
[19:16] <Volkodav_> tells me fileq2 is not a directory ?
[19:16] <Volkodav_> looks like it wants to move instead rename
[19:17] <gaurdro> are you adding a trailing / to the file2?
[19:17] <Volkodav_> no just rename
[19:17] <thinkmassive> MrNaz: can you manually connect using iwconfig?
[19:17] <thinkmassive> and are you using encryption?
[19:17] <thinkmassive> I often have to connect to my home wireless manually, although sometimes it works on its own
[19:18] <Volkodav_> This stupid windoze naming files with blanks in it always a pain
[19:18] <thinkmassive> I think nm-applet must be buggy
[19:19] <ALPSINC> hello all
[19:19] <gaurdro> ithat was going to be my next question.  put the file2 in quotes  "this is a filename"
[19:20] <Volkodav_> ok lemme try
[19:20] <ALPSINC> my 'start menu' dissappeared (most probally from a mis-read ps faux | grep xfce)
[19:20] <ALPSINC> (then kill -9 )
[19:20] <ALPSINC> but how can i get it back
[19:21] <ALPSINC> the menu on the left
[19:21] <ALPSINC> got killed... how to bring it back?
[19:21] <Volkodav_> well I know what the problem is - there are spaces in the name of file1
[19:21] <Volkodav_> I need to put it some type of brackets
[19:22] <gaurdro> anytime there's spaces it either needs quotes or you need to escape the spaces  ie " " is "\ "
[19:22] <gaurdro> and tab complete is your friend
[19:22] <thinkmassive> example:  this\ is\ a\ file\ with\ spaces.txt == "this is a file with spaces.txt"
[19:23] <Volkodav_> it worked - thanks guys
[19:23] <gaurdro> np
[19:24] <Volkodav_> It's a pain to work with these type of files
[19:54] <s3a_> how do u add shortcuts to apps in taskbar in xubuntu?
[19:56] <Myrtti> click the panel with the right mouse button, press "add to panel"
[20:00] <Odd-rationale> Myrtti: BTW, congrats on your Ubuntu membership! :)
[20:02] <Myrtti> oh, thank you so much :-) looking what other people have accomplished, I feel like such a minor player in the field, but I guess my input is valuable after all :-)
[20:04] <Odd-rationale> well, it all adds up :)
[20:07] <Odd-rationale> s3a_: right-click panel --> add to panel --> launcher
[20:11] <s3a_> Odd-rationale: then wat?
[20:11] <Odd-rationale> s3a_: rigth-click the launch and go tp properties.
[20:13] <s3a_> Odd-rationale: wat do i do in the properties is wat i meant
[20:13] <Odd-rationale> s3a_: in the command field. put the command you want the launcher to launch
[20:16] <s3a_> Odd-rationale: ok i got it all right but can i have like an icon and not a lil black sun?
[20:17] <s3a_> Odd-rationale: basically i made a shortcut for dillo, aqnd i want that cube of dillo to show instead of that small black sun that looks like a gear
[20:38] <jmikola> can anyone suggest an xubuntu-friendly ssh-add frontend?
[20:45] <cody-somerville> jmikola, gtk-led-askpass
[20:49] <jmikola> thanks cody-somerville; what would be the best method of setting the $SSH_ASKPASS env var when the xsession starts?  can i preset it on the "command line" for ssh-add in the autostarted apps menu?
[20:49] <cody-somerville> jmikola, sure
[20:49] <cody-somerville> or you might have to create a wrapper script
[20:56] <jmikola> cody-somerville, got a wrapper working just fine, thanks for the tip
[20:56] <cody-somerville> jmikola, :)
[21:23] <thinkmassive> i want to run the libvisual plugins using an external audio source, can I do this with the built-in movie player app?
[21:24] <thinkmassive> if not, what other apps will use the libvisual plugins?
[21:29] <JannoTT> xubuntu is da killa?
[21:30] <Riotta> of course
[21:30] <Riotta> :P no doubt
[21:30] <JannoTT> 10% is here. 90% to go :D
[21:31] <JannoTT> i gotta say from screenshots xfce looks like gnome :/
[21:32] <thinkmassive> both use gtk
[21:32] <thinkmassive> you can theme it however you want
[21:32] <thinkmassive> gnome only has a "look" because of the default theme and window decorations
[21:35] <maxamillion> JannoTT: the xubuntu default install is rather gnome-ish because the xubuntu team attempts to keep a level of uniformity between it and its parent distro
[21:35] <maxamillion> JannoTT: for "default" screenshots check www.xfce.org
[21:38] <JannoTT> oh yeah. xfce default screenshots does not remind gnome at all.
[22:08] <JannoTT> 56% hope it's way faster then gnome.
[22:31] <karlukken> Hola
[22:32] <karlukken> Hi
[22:32] <karlukken> No puedo cambiar la resolución de la pantalla de inicio
[22:32] <karlukken> I can't change my login screen resolution
[22:33] <karlukken> ¿Cómo lo hago?
[22:33] <karlukken> How can I do it?
[22:35] <karlukken> Hi
[22:35] <nikolam> hi
[22:35] <karlukken> Can you help me? I can't change my Xubuntu login screen resolution
[22:36] <karlukken> I tried editing xorg.conf, but it's different from the previous versions
[22:37] <nikolam> i were facing the same problem myself
[22:38] <karlukken> I googled the problem, but all solutions I found rely on changing xorg.conf
[22:38] <karlukken> Aha...
[22:38] <nikolam> I think that only solution is to stick to the resolution it is offering and that suppose to be the first one mentioned on xorg.conf in resolution line
[22:39] <karlukken> But my xorg.conf doesn't have a resolution line
[22:39] <karlukken> It's like this:
[22:40] <karlukken> # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
[22:40] <karlukken> #
[22:40] <karlukken> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
[22:40] <karlukken> # values from the debconf database.
[22:40] <karlukken> #
[22:40] <karlukken> # Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
[22:40] <nikolam> Mine neather. But somehow I managed to get it with something like sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:40] <nikolam> and then edit it
[22:41] <JannoTT> 1minute remaining and there will be new xubuntu user. Hope everything goes well.
[22:41] <nikolam> if i remember corectly i booted with vesa and i used to use some automated window that start on gdm start failure
[22:41] <nikolam> I will put my xorg.conf on pastebin if any help
[22:42] <nikolam> ypu can then copy/paste portions that reffer to you
[22:42] <nikolam> Here is my xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntu.com/19994/
[22:43] <nikolam> JannoTT, Go for it! :)
[22:43] <JannoTT> it's here! time to burn it and install it.
[22:44] <karlukken> How did you do that? I mean, pasting your xorg.conf there...
[22:44] <nikolam> karlukken, Look at the Modes Line, i think that first mode in that line will be the one taht gdm uses to display login screen
[22:45] <nikolam> wennt to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ , insert your username on irc, and copy/paste text you want, And voila. :)
[22:46] <karlukken> Alright, did it. Look at my xorg,conf, it doesn't have a modes line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19997/
[22:46] <nikolam> of course, mine looked the same upon graphics driver install
[22:47] <nikolam> That suppose to be default on new X.org server
[22:47] <tingle_> hello, i would like to try xubuntu as desktop os but im not sure what version to pick i would like to have a stable version
[22:48] <nikolam> But I couldn`t remember quite how i managed to have modelines in it. I think that automatic program that start in Vga mode when it detected my gdm is crashing, promted me to select driver&monitor and made them for me
[22:48] <TheSheep> you are supposed to use displayconfig-gtk now
[22:48] <karlukken> Alright, let me try that, TheSheep...
[22:49] <nikolam> tingle_, It depends on your machine/memory bu generally i recommend i386 or amd64 alternate xubuntu install cd
[22:49] <karlukken> To tingle: First, you have to know if your machine is i386, AMD64, powerPC...
[22:49] <Ven]1> doesnt xubuntu use xinitrc?
[22:51] <tingle_> nikolam: thanks but thats not really what i ment when i go to xubuntu/download i can choose different releases
[22:53] <nikolam> TheSheep, tingle_ Just use 8.04 That is LTS(Long Term Service) Version that will be supported 5+years on desktop
[22:53] <karlukken> The latest stable version is 8.04, Hardy Heron
[22:53] <karlukken> I think that's what you need
[22:53] <tingle_> karlukken: ok ill try it thanks
[22:53] <nikolam> Sorry I wanted tingle_ :)
[22:54] <tingle_> nikolam: np :)
[22:54] <tingle_> going to switch now bb and thanks
[22:55] <karlukken> Well, regards the resolution problem... It seems I am using a generic driver. I'm going to Windows to find out which graphic card I have, so I can tell displayconfig-gtk
[22:55] <karlukken> Good luck, nikolam
[22:55] <karlukken> I might be back...
[22:55] <nikolam> like terminator, huh :)
[22:56] <karlukken> Ha ha
[22:56] <nikolam> T-900
[22:56] <Ven]1> ﻿can i just put stuff into /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc for them to autorun?
[22:58] <nikolam> Ven]1, You have Settings>Settings manager>Autostarted apps   for that :)
[22:59] <Ven]1> not apps.. commands
[23:00] <Ven]1> can i just put in commands into rc.local?
[23:01] <nikolam> app=command
[23:01] <Ven]1> true
[23:01] <Ven]1> brb
[23:06] <Tsrwedge> I'm attempting to use Xfce, but it seems to hang after the login screen.  Does anyone have any pointers on where to look for possible solutions?  I tried googling "xubuntu hangs after login" and variants, as well as browsing the ubuntu forums, but was unable to find anything relevant.
[23:10] <Riotta> Tsrwedge: my generic question you got ati ?
[23:10] <Tsrwedge> nVidia
[23:11] <Riotta> ok
[23:11] <Riotta> first of all
[23:11] <Riotta> what PC you got? and do you installed xfce by yourself apt or it's xubuntu
[23:11] <Tsrwedge> Toshiba X205-S9810 (laptop), and from Synaptic
[23:12] <Tsrwedge> via the xubuntu-desktop package
[23:12] <Riotta> are you running compiz with it ?
[23:13] <Tsrwedge> Not as far as I know
[23:13] <Tsrwedge> about 99% sure it's just metacity, but this is in GNOME
[23:14] <Riotta> well I really don't know I used to install xubuntu-desktop myself on ubuntu machines and it worked
[23:14] <Tsrwedge> I've never had a successful boot into Xfce
[23:14] <Riotta> xfce isn't really a problematic window manager gnome has more flaws tbh
[23:14] <Riotta> hmm
[23:14] <Riotta> maybe your installation of packages where corrupted or something
[23:15] <Riotta> maybe it's some not linux based fault
[23:15] <Tsrwedge> I've removed, cleaned, redownloaded, reinstalled several times
[23:15] <djouallah> just a word, thanks for xubuntu and wubi ;)
[23:17] <Tsrwedge> ... which probably wouldn't do a darn thing if I didn't uninstall the xfce* packages too
[23:17] <JannoTT> im back
[23:17] <JannoTT> with new os
[23:17] <JannoTT> how long it took?
[23:17] <Tsrwedge> let me give that a shot
[23:20] <JannoTT> ou my god im a idiot
[23:20] <JannoTT> moved gamma sliders out of position in display settings and there aint any default options
[23:26] <Tsrwedge> problem solved, thanks for asking the right questions Riotta
[23:26] <JannoTT> any ideas?
[23:26] <Riotta> how did you manage to fix?
[23:27] <Tsrwedge> cycled the xfce packages as well
[23:27] <Tsrwedge> I was only cycling the xubuntu packages
[23:27] <JannoTT> someone atleast check whats the default gamma. please
[23:28] <Tsrwedge> Janno, where is it?
[23:28] <JannoTT> under display settings
[23:28] <Riotta> Tsrwedge: I'm glad it's working now
[23:28] <JannoTT> the place where u can set ur resolution and stuff
[23:29] <Tsrwedge> haha, where is that JannoTT, I can't seem to find it ><
[23:29] <JannoTT> applications then settings then settings manager and then display
[23:31] <Tsrwedge> 1.00
[23:32] <JannoTT> 1.00 looks kinda bright but okey.
[23:32] <JannoTT> thanks
[23:33] <JannoTT> now let's see what xubuntu offers
[23:38] <Brokunn> Can I ask questions right here?  <--noob
[23:40] <JannoTT> maybe
[23:40] <JannoTT> ofcoors u can... c(:
[23:41] <Brokunn> @.@  Excellent
[23:42] <Brokunn> I'm trying to install Xubuntu on a Dell Latitude L400 using the alternate CD (since I only have 128 Mb of RAM).  It keeps failing at the same spot in the installation...
[23:42] <Brokunn> I verified the CD, my RAM, and I use to run Win 2k on the laptop just fine, so I dont think it's hardware.
[23:46] <Brokunn> Any thoughts/suggestions?
[23:49] <JannoTT> i know nothing. :D installed xubuntu 20minutes ago first time ever. :D
[23:50] <Brokunn> Well, you got farther than I did ;)
[23:50] <JannoTT> pure luck :D