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Jucatoseele: might want to edit your date :)00:56
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seeleJucato: oh is it wrong? lol02:38
JucatoSunday, June 13 (which is Friday :P)02:38
seeleoh whoops, lol02:39
Jucatoyou had me scampering for a calendar :P02:39
Jucato(only to realize later that there's one in the panel...)02:39
Jucatotoo bad I probably won't be able to make it (04:00 local time)02:40
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nixternalhrmm02:53
nixternalI didn't realize the Kubuntu Tutorials Day was this Sunday...that is Father's Day here, so it may be super tough for me to make it02:54
vorianapachelogger: thanks bro03:23
* vorian waves03:23
Jucatonixternal: aren't the supposed to give you some time off at home for father's day? make you feel like a king? :)05:45
mendredhi is there any command line option to start kwin from a virtual console but point it to a specific X session?06:12
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Arbymorning08:36
Riddellmorning09:37
Seregamorning09:38
judith_iemorning09:44
emonkey\sh, apropos splashscreen, a friend of me has won with his Foto the digikam Splashscreen contest and because of that I asked him if he has another nice Foto for a Splashscreen, maybe for leonov. He sent me a link with a photo and told me that if it will be neede he can prepare the photo a for a bit better ... So let me know if it's a photo which will be taken. Maybe you do not want a photo at all for the splash ... so here are the links:09:45
emonkeyhttp://www.digikam.org/drupal/node/25409:45
emonkeyhttp://co2.homeip.net/div/coltest.jpg09:45
judith_iereally good photos09:46
\shemonkey: cool :) great :) thx a lot :)09:47
\shemonkey: and yes...I want to have a spacy one...merged with the new logo of launchpad :)09:47
emonkey\sh, you mean https://help.launchpad.net/logo/winning-entry09:49
\shemonkey: yepp09:50
\shemonkey: but only the crystal09:50
emonkeyyes09:50
\shemonkey: and something like this: http://www.novaspace.com/AUTO/Leonov/Singapore.html09:50
\shas picture...(but not this..this is licensed)09:50
emonkeyi see09:50
\shemonkey: oh...someone posted my announcement to the forums.ubuntu.ru :)09:50
\shemonkey: if he can do it, I would like to see the kyrillic version of the Name Leonov ;)09:51
\shemonkey: Леонов  <--- that's the name in kyrillic09:52
emonkey:)09:52
Riddellcyrillic09:52
\shah well...it's early in the morning ;)09:52
\shand I'm redoing the ui of Леонов ;)09:52
emonkey\sh, do you have a time deadline for that?09:52
\shemonkey: nope...but it would be nice, if we can settle the final layout in 4 weeks or so :)09:53
emonkeyok, in 7 days my exams are over, I'm sure we'll have a bit time to do some work then. We've to look through tousends of fotos ... ^^09:54
emonkeyUnfortunately I do not remember about sou much spacy photos but we'll find something nice09:55
\shemonkey: I'm setting up a website for the project...so we can coordinate all the work :) someone already mailed me about the gtk stuff...rock09:56
emonkeysounds nive09:56
emonkeynice09:56
\shand #leonov is now registered :)09:57
skreech\sh: russian?10:00
\shskreech: /me ? no10:09
skreech\sh: kk10:10
\shskreech: but the name is actually fitting: Leonov was a space rider like mark, it fits inside the LP naming scheme...and actually I'm in line with Arthur C. Clark of 2001: Space Odysey :)10:12
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* \sh is so blind...12:17
\shleonovui.rc -><Menu ...><text>&File</text> <-- what's wrong here? I wrote several ui files in the past...but I always stumble upon wellformed xml12:18
stdin\sh: maybe '<text>&amp;File</text>' ?12:20
\shstdin: yes...but actually I didn't see it...too busy with other stuff ;)12:23
gnomefreakdo we have working packages for KDE4 for Intrepid?12:26
gnomefreaksince ubuntu repos kde4 is broken in all sorts of ways12:26
gnomefreakis kubuntu.org down?12:38
Nightrosegnomefreak: i think there are problems because they are waiting for an acc on the main inclusion report for some kde 4 stuff12:39
gnomefreakNightrose: thanks12:40
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nixternalmornin'14:27
Jucatonixternal!!!!!!!!!!15:49
nixternalyo yo15:49
* Jucato powerpokes nixternal for fun16:11
nixternalno power poking!16:11
Jucatohm ok16:11
* Jucato sudo pokes nixternal :D16:11
Jucato(advanced) happy father's day btw16:12
Artemis_Fowlseele: busy?16:14
nixternalJucato: thanks :) that's tomorrow though here :)16:14
Jucatonixternal: hence the "(advanced)"...16:15
nixternaloh, didn't catch that :)16:15
JucatoI might be totally drained tomorrow (or monday morning here) so I don't know if I can greet you in the correct time16:15
nixternalI am totally drained right now16:15
\shnixternal: me too16:15
* apachelogger is totally bored16:16
Jucatoso am I16:16
Jucatodrained I mean16:16
JucatoI wish I could be bored.. that would mean I had nothing to do...16:16
nixternalhehe, I hear you there16:17
apacheloggerJucato: that aint fun16:17
nixternalI am gonna go shopping for a new bicycle today16:17
apacheloggernixternal: please get me one as well :)16:17
nixternalshoot, I am having a hard time getting me one16:18
nixternaljust watched the shuttle touch down16:18
* apachelogger could watch some game tv thing16:18
Artemis_Fowldoesn't Euro fits your needs?16:19
Artemis_Fowlfit* -.-16:20
apacheloggerI can't watch it :P16:20
Artemis_Fowlwhy not?16:20
apacheloggerthe webstream is encrypted16:20
apacheloggertv signales are only DVB-T in austria16:20
apacheloggerwhich makes watching tv also quite difficult16:21
Artemis_Fowloh16:21
apacheloggernearest  site is 100km away16:21
apacheloggerso no soccer for me :)16:21
* Hobbsee pokes you all into fixing bugs, instead of being on irc16:22
nixternalHobbsee: I am fixing bugs16:22
nixternaljust in CentOS :(16:23
Hobbseenixternal: better that than vista, i guess.  try fixing ubuntu bugs.16:23
Hobbseenixternal: or have you switched to centos now?16:23
nixternalI really do not understand RPM crap...I totally hate it16:23
nixternalHobbsee: hell no I haven't switched to CentOS16:23
nixternalwe build out appliances on top of CentOS right now16:23
nixternalv2 though I am shooting for Ubuntu16:23
nixternaland Yum repos are ridiculous16:24
* apachelogger did rpm packaging16:24
apacheloggerand still I dodn't understand it16:24
Hobbseenixternal: oh good.16:24
Hobbseenixternal: so you're not *quite* so much of a traitor, then16:24
Hobbsee!visternal16:24
ubottuOh no!  The pointy-clicky Vista lover has arrived!  He's rumoured to be giving out free money, too!16:24
nixternalhehe16:25
nixternalit is way to hard for me to leave Kubuntu, my love is just to great :)16:25
Hobbsee(and no, you will never live it down)16:25
Hobbseenot even for something like foresight?16:25
Hobbsee(how is foresight doing?)16:25
nixternalI just wish KDEPIM was good with Exchange server16:25
nixternalI can use IMAP with our server at work, but I cannot access our public calendar, so I have to use Evolution16:25
JucatoHobbeese!!16:26
nixternalwhich is by far, crappy, but better than KDEPIM in many ways16:26
Jucatoer.. Hobbsee!!16:26
HobbseeJucato!16:26
Jucatoduh! it's GTK/GNOME!! of course it's better in many ways!16:26
Jucatobut seriously? I can barely use kdepim4 lately...16:26
nixternalanother thing, I am not a KDE 3 fan anymore, but I am using it :)16:27
nixternalKDE 4 has spoiled the hell out of me16:27
nixternaloh, and encrypted LVM partitions rock!16:27
apacheloggerRiddell: sync of filelight failed because the orig.tar.gzs are different, right?16:28
apacheloggerHobbsee: look, what you did, there goes my boredness :|16:28
nixternalapachelogger: fake sync to get the tarballs back in order16:28
apacheloggernixternal: yeah, I just want to make sure it was due to mismatching tarballs16:29
Hobbseeapachelogger: heh16:29
Hobbseeapachelogger: you didn't want to be bored, anyway16:29
apacheloggerwell, I am wondering what my padawan is doing that long16:29
apacheloggerah, he went offline :D16:30
apacheloggerapparently screenie was too much of a hassle to get started with packaging16:30
apacheloggerOo16:50
apacheloggerwtf16:50
apacheloggerMD5 sum of uploaded file does not match existing file in archive16:50
apacheloggercurrent version is 1.0-0ubuntu216:51
apacheloggerI am uploading 1.0-2build116:51
apacheloggernixternal: bug 21723817:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 217238 in kubuntu-kde4-meta "kde4 applications do not run from menu in GNOME" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/21723817:19
apacheloggerlooks like something in yakuake rules/cdbs is broken17:20
Ceruleanhi there. I see mention that tomorrow there will be a tutorial session in #kubuntu, and one of the talks will be on creating plasma applets with Python19:30
NightroseCerulean: it will be in this channel19:30
CeruleanI've been trying to find out more information because I doubt I'll be able to make it for the tutorial. Does anyone know how nosrednaekim is planning on doing it?19:31
Nightroseand there are some problems with that particular tutorial19:31
Ceruleanis it with the Kross Plasma script engine?19:31
Ceruleanbecause SVN shows it to be pretty out of date19:31
CeruleanNightrose: Oh?19:31
NightroseCerulean: I don't know the exact details, sorry - but I think there were problems with getting packages for the bindings19:32
CeruleanI see19:32
daskreeCH\o/19:50
daskreeCHclaydoh: I just got your name20:01
claydohyou did? cool :)20:01
claydohthat nick got stuck on me back in 1972, when i was 720:02
claydohor 6 rather, going on 720:02
daskreeCHclaydoh: Do I want to know the story behind it?20:16
jjesseclaydoh: was it because you ate a l ot playdoh?20:22
daskreeCHjjesse: Well IIIIII think it would be clay dough20:26
daskreeCHmud pies :)20:26
claydohjjesse: no, jsu we were all playing with the stuff, and some girl started it20:28
jjesseah20:28
jjessen20:28
claydohI did hack a Paay-doh logo to turn the 'P' into a 'c' but it was awefull20:30
claydoherr Play-doh rather20:30
daskreeCH:-)20:30
daskreeCHWait20:30
daskreeCHwhen did they put out the ransom note?20:31
claydohdon't think they ever noticed it, it was some years back, probably 1999 or so20:31
claydohand it was on some free web host that isn't around20:32
daskreeCHclaydoh: Oh sorry convi hijack20:32
daskreeCHNokia put out a ransom note on Trolltech?20:32
claydohheh np20:32
daskreeCHwhat the hell? Don't they know about the poison pill secreted in plain view?20:33
_StefanS_hey there20:34
_StefanS_is alpha 1 out yet?20:34
_StefanS_cant seem to find it on cdimage.ubuntu.com20:34
daskreeCHWhat could they possibly get out of holding Trolltech ransom?20:34
daskreeCH_StefanS_: It's not CDed20:34
daskreeCHAFAIK20:34
_StefanS_daskreeCH: upgrade only then ?20:34
daskreeCHSi grab the remix and follow kubuntu.org20:35
_StefanS_thanks20:35
daskreeCHI forget if we also have a KDe4 nightly now20:35
_StefanS_err=20:35
_StefanS_?20:35
_StefanS_the 4.1 beta ?20:36
_StefanS_I have switched fully to kde 4.1 beta now, its simply great20:36
daskreeCH:-)20:36
_StefanS_good work by nixternal ! :)20:36
_StefanS_nixternal: you there btw?20:37
daskreeCHprobably passed out20:37
_StefanS_I can imagine ;) - he must've been exhausted creating all those packages20:37
voontedaskreeCH: are there kde4 nightlies for kubuntu?20:38
daskreeCHOr more like aseigo exhausted trying to deal with people looking over his shoulder while he created those packages20:38
daskreeCHvoonte: I heard there were20:38
daskreeCHapachelogger: ping20:38
* daskreeCH still has his ransom note question in the air20:38
_StefanS_daskreeCH: is those nightlies available only in intrepid?20:39
daskreeCH_StefanS_: yes20:40
daskreeCHAFAIK20:40
_StefanS_cool, gotta install it on vmware until its stable20:41
* daskreeCH wants the new VMware :(20:41
* daskreeCH pokes random MOTUs20:42
_StefanS_daskreeCH: which ? the workstation ?20:42
_StefanS_daskreeCH: or the server..20:42
daskreeCHI forget which ever one comes with the new cool stuff that shipped like 6 days after hardy20:43
_StefanS_daskreeCH: that would be vmware workstation 6.5, with support for combined window mode20:44
* daskreeCH nods20:44
daskreeCH6 something :)20:44
daskreeCHThe 6.sense20:44
daskreeCHI see combined people20:44
_StefanS_daskreeCH: beta is not very functional yet, so use 6.0.4..20:44
Nightrosevoonte: daskreeCH _StefanS_: #amarok.neon20:45
Nightrosepackages are for hardy20:45
daskreeCHreally?20:45
_StefanS_now if they could only use Qt instead of that ugly gtk2 gui20:45
daskreeCH\o/20:45
_StefanS_Nightrose: kde-nightly, is there more info available on which repos to use?20:46
_StefanS_or is it in main for intrepid?20:46
Nightrose_StefanS_: it is a seperate project - packaged in a ppa20:47
_StefanS_nightrose: lp url?20:47
_StefanS_ah found it20:48
Nightrose_StefanS_: please join #amarok.neon - we want to give a little intro for people who use it20:48
Nightrosecause it is not made official yet20:48
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wesleyby compiling kde4 from trunk i get this error cmakekde: command not found21:58
voontewesley: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4#Setting_up_the_environment22:00
wesleydo i need to set up a second user account ?22:00
voonteI'd recommend that yes22:01
wesleybut then i dont have sound ?22:01
wesleybut there is something with that bash22:02
voonteadd your new user to the audio group22:02
wesleyi think i know what i did wrong22:02
wesleyi need to copy thst script http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Increased_Productivity_in_KDE4_with_Scripts/.bashrc22:03
voonteyea22:03
wesleywheres that file then ?22:04
voontein ~/.bashrc22:05
voontemake sure you read through this page http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4 so you understand what's going on22:05
wesleyi will try22:10
wesleyi made the kde-devel account22:10
nosrednaekimRiddell: so the python-plasmoid tutorial is off I assume?22:12
wesleyCopy the ~/.bashrc from your normal user account to the new kde-devel account  where do i find that from my normal user account ?22:12
wesleywheres that script22:21
voontewesley: i don't think this is the right channel for this. #kde would probably be better22:26
jtechidnaThe blue one would make a nice intrepid default wallpaper/ kdm background: http://pinheiro-kde.blogspot.com/2008/06/candy-comes-in-many-colors.html22:56
jtechidnakde-ish blue so it doesn't un-kdeify Kubuntu22:57
jtechidnaPlus its sexy to boot22:57
jtechidna*it's22:58
Nightrosejjesse: just read your blog - have you had a look at ampache? don't know if that fits your need but it will be nicely integrated with amarok 2 and has a usable webfrontend23:05
ryanakcajjesse: *votes for ampache too*, its a breeze to setup in Ubuntu :)23:34
ryanakcaPitchfork is nice too :)23:38

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