[00:00] <sharpe_uk> where do I change the mime type associated with an application in kubuntu?
[00:00] <sharpe_uk> its decided that konqueror should open deb files (this is not what I want!)
[00:00] <Malic> stupid question: how can i zoom in a video with kaffeine?
[00:01] <jhutchins_wk> sharpe_uk: Right click or shift-right-click on a local file, choose open with and check remember.
[00:02] <sharpe_uk> ah easy as that, what about global configuration?
[00:02] <sharpe_uk> or if I dont want it to open with anything, I just want it to download..
[00:03] <jd_> sharpe_uk: that depends on your web browser/download manager
[00:03] <sharpe_uk> konq
[00:05] <jd_> on konq go to settings->configure->file associations
[00:06] <jd_> search for deb and drop down the application and click on x-deb
[00:07] <sharpe_uk> ah excellent, thanks :)
[00:07] <sharpe_uk> been using KDE years first time Ive run into that one
[00:07] <jd_> no problem
[00:08] <DJG9282> Hi guys...for some reason i can do dial-up and it connects from the Live CD, but when i do it from any three of the users (admin or not), it will connect, but i cannot view any web pages any ideas?
[00:08] <DJG9282> I installed Firestarter and Guarddog before...and i thought maybe that was preventing it so i uninstalled them...but still no luck with it
[00:10] <ougs> how do i start wireless interface from rescue mode (no X)
[00:11] <DJG9282> Here's a little bit more info: About three days ago i could not get the KPPP program to even start under other profiles except for the first user profile. When i started the dialup through first user and went to a website...it allowed me. But i couldn't even get access to KPPP on the other profiles. So i reinstalled KPPP and that solved the problem of not allowing other profile users to use it...but now even though it
[00:11] <DJG9282> dials and connects...the email program, web browser, chat program all say that it cannot find the server and to check connection
[00:14] <DJG9282> ok i just noticed....web browser doesnt notice the connection either...even though the Live CD
[00:17] <DJG9282> ...
[00:18] <ougs> how do i start wireless interface from rescue mode (no X)
[00:20] <michael__> does anyone now how to get the cashew on my panel
[00:20] <engineer> ougs sudo wlan0 up
[00:26] <michael__>  does anyone now how to get the cashew on my panel
[00:28] <ufo__> hi
[00:29] <ufo__> hello
[00:30] <wimpies> when I do sudo  -i I can login as root without password, but only on the first terminal I start.  How can that be ?
[00:30] <engineer> did you have an open session before?
[00:31] <wimpies> engineer : no I just rebooted and I also closed that terminal session I could do sudo -i in
[00:31] <DJG9282> Anyone have any suggestions of why my dial-up connection will successfully connect, but web browsers, email clients etc. will not recognize the connection?
[00:35] <DJG9282> guess thats a no?
[00:37] <wimpies>  is there any KDETV user around here ?
[00:38] <tien> hello
[00:40] <Agent_bob> what's the minimum ram required for a ubuntu server ?
[00:42] <Agent_bob> would 16m be enough ???     http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=df7e4d77
[00:42] <ubuntu_> 16mb
[00:42] <Agent_bob> yeah ?
[00:42] <ubuntu_> wow
[00:43] <Agent_bob> this box i'm chatting on is a little heavier than that  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d2f592cd1
[00:44] <Agent_bob> so i'm wondering if it's because there is more avalable that more is used ?
[00:44] <adz21c> Hi, is it possible to sync kaddressbook with google contacts? (i am thinking imap since i got kmail using that, I tried imap via kmail but I dunno if I am setting it up right or what but it seems to do nothing and i can't add contacts using it either)
[00:50] <DJG9282> could a firewall be blocking access to webpages or email through the dial up connection?
[00:50] <Agent_bob> waoh ff eats 21m of ram just launching itself
[00:50] <Agent_bob> that's what firewalls do  yes
[00:51] <DJG9282> Agent_bob: what can i do to turn it off...i installed firestarter and then i uninstalled it because i couldn't get to web pages...now i think it kept whatever setting it setup
[00:51] <ralf_> it depends, doesnt it? If port 80 is blocked, there is no connection possible to web pages i think
[00:51] <DJG9282> Any ideas if i can find out what ports are being blocked?
[00:52] <Agent_bob> ralf_ or if a specific ip is blocked or if a specific interface is blocked or if any combination of those is used.
[00:52] <DJG9282> My dial-up connects to the internet but thunderbird and firefox doesn't recognize it
[00:52] <Agent_bob> DJG9282 can you get to google in ff using the ip 64.233.167.99 ?
[00:53] <Agent_bob> if so it's a dns issue
[00:53] <DJG9282> ok right now i don't have firefox on this one because i am using the Live CD because on the harddrive it won't even allow me to connect to Konversation
[00:54] <Agent_bob> ok what about konqueror   can it get out ?
[00:54] <ralf_> to find it out you just need to check ping www.google.com
[00:54] <DJG9282> I get "Could not connect to host http://64.233.167.99" in Konqer
[00:55] <DJG9282> when i do the ping command it works
[00:55] <DJG9282> but no luck through the browser
[00:55] <Agent_bob> ok.  sounds like it's firewalled or ip/port not forwarded   what do you have between you and the world ?
[00:56] <Agent_bob> wait  is that bug in the liveCD ?
[00:56] <DJG9282> thats a good question...like i said i installed firestarter....didn't really like it so i installed guarddog after uninstalling firestarter...but then i couldn't connect to web pages when i got home through the dial up so i installed guarddog
[00:56] <Agent_bob> check the bug reports on that issue
[00:56] <DJG9282> no its not because i cannot even connect to anything at ALL on the profiles on the hard drive
[00:56] <DJG9282> Live CD is a plus...i can at least chat about this problem haha
[00:58] <Agent_bob> but i think there is a bug in the live CD     iirc  so that might explian the issue there.    now as to the installed system if you lockdown the box you'll have to unlock it to get out  ;/
[00:58] <DJG9282> how do i do that?
[00:58] <DJG9282> i never did lock it down...unless i did it without knowing what i was doing
[00:58] <DJG9282> but i literally just went into the firewall and changed nothing
[00:58] <DJG9282> then uninstalled
[00:58] <Agent_bob> DJG9282 run the firewall frontend you have installed and configure it to allow access to the world ?
[00:59] <ralf_> hm, and when you just diable it?
[00:59] <DJG9282> i didn't disable it...i uninstalled it
[00:59] <DJG9282> frontend? not familiar with that one
[00:59] <Agent_bob> removing the frontend does not remove firewall capabilities from the kernel
[01:00] <DJG9282> ok what do i have to do to manually get rid of whatever is blocking
[01:00] <ralf_> i would try to install it again and then to disable the firewall befor uninstalling it
[01:00] <Agent_bob> frontend : any program that affords user friendly access to another less friendly application
[01:01] <DJG9282> i think the firewall was configured for my wireless and blocked every other Ip access thats outgoing through dial-up....i just don't know how to fix the problem
[01:01] <Agent_bob> sudo iptables -F
[01:02] <DJG9282> and that would show me whaqt? obviously from the Live CD that command doesnt do anything...unless i am doing something wrong there
[01:02] <Agent_bob> nothing,   it would flush the iptables rules.
[01:02] <hotpocket> hi
[01:02] <ralf_> Is there somebody who knows how to get the sound system working after a suspend to ram? even with a freh installes kubuntu it doesnt work right.
[01:03] <hotpocket> try a ubuntu live cd and see if it works
[01:03] <Agent_bob> ralf_ !i
[01:03] <DJG9282> ok i'm going to try that thanks
[01:04] <Agent_bob> DJG9282 you can use sudo iptables -L    to list them
[01:05] <Agent_bob> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d74cf8959  <<< there's the firewall settings for this box :)))
[01:06] <ralf_> no ideas about the sound system problem?
[01:07] <Agent_bob> ralf_ not me, i always just power off,  never suspend
[01:09] <ralf_> Agent_bob: yes on a desktop pc me too  but on my notebook i use it very often, though i am not able to here any sounds after wake it up
[01:09] <Agent_bob> actually i meant on the lappy  ;/                                                                                                                                                                                                                       alt+SysRQ+[e,u,b] for the win.
[01:11] <Agent_bob> but i have a very CHEEP lappy, has ati everything so not much works correctly.
[01:11] <ralf_> mine is an old thinkpad   it works fine except the sound system -.-
[01:12] <Agent_bob> heh in alsamixer i get two sliders  main  and mic
[01:13] <Agent_bob> but suprisingly sound works.
[01:13] <MilitantPotato1> .
[01:13]  * Agent_bob hands MilitantPotato1 his other eye   '
[01:15] <Agent_bob> i go now
[01:16] <ralf_> well me to   good night ;) it's 2:15am over here
[01:20]  * mr---t- just wondering who i am
[01:20]  * mr---t- yay i'm me again
[01:29] <newbird1> hi there... need help on my wireless connection... I can connect to my wireless, but dhcp keeps failing...
[01:29] <newbird1> i'm using wireless assistant on amd-64
[01:29] <newbird1> any advice?
[01:29] <newbird1> i can connect wireless through windows, no problem.. just dun understand why I can't do so on kubuntu
[01:31] <hotpocket> sup guys
[01:32] <hotpocket> im gonna try linux from scratch
[01:33] <newbird1> hotpocket - what happeend to you... failed install?
[01:35] <hotpocket> ano
[01:35] <hotpocket> no*
[01:35] <hotpocket> im just gonna see if i can do it
[01:35] <mr---t-> !wireless
[01:35] <hotpocket> and i have no programming experience, just as a summer project, you know?
[01:37] <newbird1> hotpocket - k.. kubuntu's good...
[01:37] <newbird1> hotpocket - i have no regrets installing it as a 2nd OS.. in fact, I wanna use it more.. just need to get my wifi working..
[01:38] <hotpocket> I use ubuntu personally, didn't try kubuntu, although I might tonight. I just want to try linux from scratch to see if i cna really make linux from scratch using the guide for fun
[01:38] <mr---t-> newbird1:  see link above
[01:38] <newbird1> mr...t - Thanx..
[01:38] <mr---t-> np
[01:38] <hotpocket> what router do you have newbird1?
[01:38] <newbird1> mr t - Going to try that again..
[01:39] <newbird1> hotpocket - it's a belkin...
[01:39] <TimRusset> I AM DEAD, WOOOOooooOOOOOoooo!
[01:39] <Jucato> hm...
[01:39] <mr---t-> what chipset
[01:39] <newbird1> hotpocket - i set it to a non-broadcast SSID mode.. wonder if that is the problem..
[01:40] <newbird1> mr t - Atheros AR5700EG for my wireless
[01:40] <newbird1> i got the driver and it works
[01:40] <newbird1> i can connect, but the router doesn't give me an ip address and after a while,
[01:40] <newbird1> wireless assistant just disconnects for me
[01:40] <newbird1> it looks like a dhcp issue
[01:41] <newbird1> was seeing that the process got stuck when doing dhcp
[01:41] <newbird1> but wireless assistant does dhcp automatically for me, so i'm not sure what happened
[01:42] <mr---t-> newbird1: you might want to look here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=669524
[01:43] <newbird1> mr t - OK... hold on
[01:43] <newbird1> mr t - I'm a slow reader... 8)
[01:45] <joshual> hi folks i notice that on the Kubuntu download page there is a kubuntu 8.04 and a kubuntu 8.04 kde 4 remix ; does that mean that the kubuntu kde 4 is ready for production?
[01:45] <joshual> machines
[01:45] <newbird1> mr t - gonna give the tip in the forum a try..
[01:45] <Dragnslcr> joshual- probably not
[01:45] <newbird1> thanks guys...
[01:46] <mr---t-> not im my opinion
[01:46] <Jucato> joshual: 4.0? definitely not
[01:46] <joshual> hehe ok
[01:46] <newbird1> gotta reboot from my windows to kubuntu now...
[01:46] <Dragnslcr> joshual- 4.0 isn't really meant for normal use, and 4.1 is still in beta
[01:46] <joshual> in that case i'll just download the regular 8.04 for now
[01:46] <joshual> is that what most here are using?
[01:46] <hotpocket> linux from scratch would be too tough for me =/
[01:47] <joshual> lfs is really only if you have a definite specific reasaon for it
[01:47] <hotpocket> question
[01:47] <hotpocket> how do i run a .sh script?
[01:47] <hotpocket> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=820802
[01:48] <joshual> hotpocket: ./script.sh ; sh script.sh
[01:48] <hotpocket> oh
[01:48] <hotpocket> thank
[01:48] <hotpocket> s
[01:48] <hotpocket> and do i replace script with the name of the script?
[01:48] <joshual> yes
[01:48] <hotpocket> ok thanks
[01:48] <hotpocket> and im in root if it says root right?
[02:09] <ign0ramus> can anyone help me get jre running in firefox-2?  it used to work...
[02:15] <ign0ramus> i guess i'll figure it out later
[02:15]  * ign0ramus goes to watch porn
[02:18] <Jucato> hm...
[02:19]  * mr---t- deep thought?
[02:24] <Jucato> no.. missed the chance to sic the bot on him
[02:26] <asobi> how do i recover a missing folder?
[02:33] <nelix_> olá
[02:34] <nelix_> será q alguem pode me ajudar, ainda não conheço esse sistema direito, o meu som ficou sem audio de repente
[02:34] <nelix_> socorro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:35] <nelix_> alguem!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:35] <mr---t-> jucato i don't have a clue
[02:35] <Jucato> !br | nelix_
[02:51] <pottythepisser> take everything from the inside and throw it all away cuz i swear for the last time i will trust my self with you
[02:51] <pottythepisser> take everything from the inside and throw it all away cuz i swear for the last time i will trust my self with you
[02:52] <pottythepisser> poopie
[02:52] <mr---t-> jucato
[02:52] <pottythepisser> !ops mr---t
[02:52] <hotpocket> what?
[02:53] <pottythepisser> !help
[02:53] <pottythepisser> !ops
[02:53] <stdin> what?
[02:53] <pottythepisser> !ops
[02:53] <pottythepisser> !ops
[02:53] <crimsun> stop it, please.
[02:53] <pottythepisser> ur mean
[02:53] <NickPresta> pottythepisser, sigh. Don't you ever learn?
[02:54] <pottythepisser> what?
[02:54] <stdin> do not abuse the ops trigger again
[02:55] <pottythepisser> wat like this?
[02:55] <pottythepisser> !ops
[02:55] <stdin> yes
[02:55] <NickPresta> XD
[02:55] <NickPresta> stdin was waiting for the kill
[02:55] <mr---t-> thank you
[02:59] <mr---t-> NickPresta:  I didn't know if I should have called ops and jucato was her earlier
[02:59] <mr---t-> here^
[03:00] <mr---t-> but the fool called ops on himself
[03:34] <daeos> my friend zohaib has this issue: "how can i change my screen resolution in KDE, I've attempted many times to try and change my screen resolution away from 800x600. Any help?"
[03:35] <zohaib1020> yea, ive tried many things to try to chage it but nothing seems to work
[03:38] <zohaib1020> can anyone help?
[03:40] <zach_> what's your problem good sir?
[03:40] <zach_> ahh what daeos said?
[03:40] <daeos> yes
[03:40] <zohaib1020> i cant change away from the 800x600 screen resolution
[03:41] <zohaib1020> yea
[03:41] <zach_> first of all what are the specs on your graphics card?
[03:41] <zohaib1020> its a nvidia 4000
[03:41] <zohaib1020> geforce
[03:41] <zohaib1020> 128 mb
[03:41] <zach_> what driver do you have installed?
[03:41] <zohaib1020> im not sure, any way to check?
[03:42] <zach_> you have kubuntu correct?
[03:42] <daeos> he does
[03:42] <zohaib1020> yes
[03:42] <daeos> #ubuntu said no soup for you
[03:42] <Sadr> gonna burn the kubuntu disc tomorrow, but, question: it's not possible to just put the .iso file into a flashdrive (usb-pen) is it?.. I guess a CD is necessary for it to run on bootup?..
[03:43] <zohaib1020> i believe so
[03:43] <zach_> go to system settings -> monitor/display -> hardware
[03:43] <zohaib1020> ok
[03:43] <zach_> on your kde menu
[03:43] <zohaib1020> the driver is called nv
[03:43] <zach_> ok
[03:44] <zach_> open up xorg.conf in terminal its like /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:44] <zohaib1020> yea
[03:44] <zohaib1020> i have it open
[03:45] <zach_>  what Section "Devive" have for Driver?
[03:45] <zach_> what does*
[03:45] <zohaib1020> nvidia
[03:45] <zohaib1020> thats all it says
[03:46] <zach_> ok
[03:46] <zach_> have you tried the command  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server"
[03:46] <zohaib1020> i have
[03:47] <zach_> did you set that to the reso you wanted? then restart your system?
[03:47] <zohaib1020> it takes me through the configuration for many of the computer parts, mostly the keyboard, but doesn't ask about the screen resolution
[03:48] <zohaib1020> ill try again real quick
[03:48] <zach_> it should have like monitor refresh/screen reso
[03:48] <zach_> and you choose Easy/Medium/Advanced for configuring that based on what you know
[03:48] <zach_> choose medium
[03:49] <zach_> and you can choose from a list what reso you want
[03:49] <zach_> after you are done with all of this, restart your system and it should work
[03:49] <zohaib1020> is it xorg-server
[03:50] <zohaib1020> or xserver
[03:50] <zach_> xorg-server
[03:50] <zohaib1020> b/c it errors on me when i use xorg-server
[03:50] <zohaib1020> and i used xserver the last time
[03:50] <zach_> what is your error?
[03:50] <zohaib1020> it says xorg-server is not installed
[03:51] <zach_> sudo apt-get install xorg
[03:51] <zohaib1020> it says xorg is the newest version
[03:54] <zohaib1020> hello?
[03:55] <Firefishe> hello
[03:55] <zohaib1020> the last time i used that command it was: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:56] <zach_> ahh
[03:56] <zach_> sorry
[03:56] <zach_> that's it
[03:56] <zach_> >.<
[03:56] <zohaib1020> np
[03:56] <zach_> i was close :|
[03:56] <zach_> should of looked it up
[03:57] <zohaib1020> i just used it
[03:57] <zach_> done with the config?
[03:57] <zohaib1020> and all it asked me was about the keyboard and one option about the frame buffer device interface
[03:58] <Firefishe> I'm using pulse audio in kubuntu 7.04.  It works fine in gnome and xfce, but kde does not seem to like the sound configuration.  (I've already asked in #pulseaudio)
[03:58] <crimsun> Firefishe: assuming kde 3?
[03:58] <Firefishe> ]yes
[03:58] <Firefishe> yes...kde3
[03:59] <zach_> zohaib1020, that is quite odd o.o
[03:59] <crimsun> Firefishe: that's a bit more complicated, then.  You need to invoke esd or pulseaudio manually.
[03:59] <zohaib1020> yea, i think so too
[03:59] <crimsun> Firefishe: set arts to release the sound device after the shortest possible idle period.
[03:59] <zach_> zohaib1020, what reso are you trying to get?
[04:00] <zohaib1020> 1280x1024
[04:00] <Firefishe> crimsun:  how do I do that (url to web page is fine)
[04:00] <crimsun> Firefishe: just configure kde system settings's sound > arts to release the sound device after 1 sec
[04:00] <marcelo> hola
[04:00] <Firefishe> crimsun:  Here's some output after I typed <pulseaudio> recnently:   http://rafb.net/p/ZA3YKV55.nln.html
[04:01] <Firefishe> recentlyu
[04:01] <Firefishe> gads...  /etc/init.d/typodaemon stop
[04:01] <marcelo> Dios les bendiga
[04:01] <crimsun> Firefishe: that's because some other app has the sound dev open.
[04:01] <crimsun> Firefishe: sudo lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/seq*
[04:02] <zach_> zohaib1020, here is my configuration for monitor/display for that reso.....http://rafb.net/p/SbDPXD42.html ....try using that but editing for your hardware
[04:03] <zohaib1020> ok
[04:03] <Firefishe> crimsun:  http://rafb.net/p/HwScml35.nln.html
[04:03] <zach_> when your done, restart and cross your fingers >.<
[04:05] <zohaib1020> your xorg.conf is much simpler than mine
[04:06] <zach_> oh yeah?
[04:06] <zohaib1020> is that all, or is there more to yours?
[04:06] <zohaib1020> yea
[04:06] <zach_> that is it
[04:06] <zohaib1020> hmm
[04:06] <zach_> does yours have a bunch of lines on Section "Monitor"
[04:07] <Firefishe> crimsun:  set for 1 second release
[04:07] <zohaib1020> a couple more than yours
[04:07] <zach_> before i did dpkg-reconfigure on mine...it was pretty complex...the reconfigure simplified it and it worked
[04:07] <zohaib1020> hmm
[04:08] <zohaib1020> what gfx card are you using?
[04:08] <zach_> nvidia geforce 7600
[04:08] <zohaib1020> maybe i should nopaste my xorg?
[04:08] <zach_> sure ill take a look
[04:09] <zach_> question. have you had a good reso before? or this a new install?
[04:09] <zohaib1020> http://rafb.net/p/Lg3tit10.html
[04:09] <zohaib1020> i had 1280x1024 2 days ago
[04:10] <zach_> what changes did you make? upgrade the kernel or something?
[04:11] <zohaib1020> i used
[04:11] <zohaib1020> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[04:11] <zach_> that messed up the reso?
[04:12] <zohaib1020> i dont think so
[04:12] <zohaib1020> the reconfigure version has next to nothing about the monitor and has too much about the keyboard
[04:12] <Firefishe> crimsun:  still here?
[04:12] <zohaib1020> and other inputs
[04:12] <zach_> yeah i noticed that...what monitor do you have?
[04:12] <zohaib1020> a dell
[04:13] <zohaib1020> e773c
[04:13] <zohaib1020> Dell E773c
[04:13] <zach_> try the command
[04:14] <zach_> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[04:14] <zach_> with those parameters
[04:14] <crimsun> Firefishe: ok, with arts not holding /dev/snd/*, you should start esd/pulseaudio
[04:15] <zohaib1020> alright
[04:15] <Firefishe> crimsun:  And how is that done?
[04:15] <zohaib1020> o btw, zach_, i gotta go afk for about 10 mins
[04:16] <crimsun> Firefishe: esd
[04:16] <crimsun> Firefishe: or, pulseaudio
[04:16] <Firefishe> crimsun:  well, both, and do I start them in a specific order?
[04:16] <zach_> zohaib1020, did you run that command?
[04:16] <crimsun> Firefishe: you need one or the other.
[04:18] <Firefishe> I get this same error:http://rafb.net/p/usly9a71.nln.html
[04:18] <crimsun> Firefishe: what is the output from the lsof command I gave you above?
[04:19] <daeos> he went afk for second
[04:19] <Firefishe> crimsun:  http://rafb.net/p/HwScml35.nln.html
[04:19] <crimsun> geez
[04:20] <crimsun> are you in /dev/snd/ or /proc/asound/ or something?
[04:20] <crimsun> if so, change back to your home dir
[04:20] <crimsun> otherwise, you need to log out and back in, then kill artsd, then start esd or pulseaudio
[04:21] <Firefishe> crimsun:  that *is* my home directory
[04:21] <zach_> daeos, are you zohaib1020's mom or something?
[04:21] <crimsun> Firefishe: then log out and back in, kill artsd, and start esd
[04:22] <Firefishe> k...brb
[04:22] <daeos> hardly, im the one who told him to kick winblows and use debian.. he picked kubuntu
[04:22] <zach_> ahh so you are his best friend!
[04:22] <daeos> yep
[04:23] <zach_> indeed, he is lucky to have a friend like you
[04:24] <zach_> in my book, you damnly saved his life >.<
[04:24]  * zach_ just used damn as an adverb
[04:26] <daeos> ha
[04:26] <daeos> i suppose
[04:28] <zohaib1020> hey
[04:28] <zach_> yo
[04:28] <mjponce> o/
[04:28] <Firefishe> crimsun:  back
[04:30] <zohaib1020> i tried that last command
[04:30] <Firefishe> crimsun:  pulseaudio is still not connected to anything
[04:30] <zohaib1020> it said it rewrote to the xorg.conf file
[04:34] <zohaib1020> zach_: anything else?
[04:34] <zach_> did you have monitor/display questions?
[04:34] <zach_> queries o.o
[04:35] <zohaib1020> what?
[04:36] <zohaib1020> im gonna try restarting the xserver
[04:38] <zohaib1020> im still in 800x600
[04:38] <zach_> did that command take you through a configuration?
[04:39] <zohaib1020> not at all
[04:39] <zohaib1020> just said that it wrote to the configuration file
[04:40] <zach_> ahh ok i wasnt sure if it would or not
[04:40] <zohaib1020> hmm
[04:41] <zohaib1020> im going to try restarting xserver once more
[04:41] <zohaib1020> ill brb
[04:41] <zach_> i think it just uses your last known config since using that command without -phigh..which doesn't get us anywhere
[04:41] <zohaib1020> ah
[04:41] <zohaib1020> restarting kicks me out, so brb
[04:42] <zohaib1020> im back
[04:42] <zach_> so i'm quite baffaled to there are no monitor/display queries
[04:42] <zach_> s/to//
[04:43] <zohaib1020> yea
[04:43] <zohaib1020> im sorta confused too
[04:43] <zach_> what version is your kernel?
[04:44] <zohaib1020> not sure
[04:44] <zach_> cat /proc/version
[04:44] <zach_> paste output please
[04:45] <zohaib1020> Linux version 2.6.24-18-generic (buildd@terranova) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)) #1 SMP Wed May 28 20:27:26 UTC 2008
[04:49] <zohaib1020> brb, restarting xserver
[04:51] <zohaib1020> back
[04:51] <zohaib1020> no changes i make seem to work
[04:54] <zach_> hmm thinking
[04:54] <zohaib1020> ok
[04:59] <zach_> when is the last you upated/upgraded? or when did you install kubuntu?
[05:00] <zohaib1020> i think i installed kubuntu around a month ago
[05:01] <zohaib1020> and about upgrading, i have been updating my packages lately
[05:03] <zach_> you can try updating/upgrading, but note that this could cause other problems (updating sometimes can mess with drivers) -> "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[05:05] <zohaib1020> ok
[05:05] <zach_> how much experience have you had with linux?
[05:05] <zohaib1020> not much
[05:06] <zohaib1020> although this month has been full of experience
[05:06] <zach_> you are pretty good for a newbie then :p
[05:06] <zohaib1020> thank
[05:06] <zohaib1020> thanks*
[05:07] <zach_> what action do you think caused the change in resolution?
[05:07] <zohaib1020> well
[05:08] <zohaib1020> earlier, i was trying to connect monitors by making my new lcd a monitor
[05:08] <zohaib1020> but then when the most i could accomplish was to make them different x sessions, i reverted the change
[05:09] <zohaib1020> but it was working in the correct resolution until yesterday morning when i started my computer
[05:09] <zohaib1020> which was a couple days later
[05:11] <daeos> i'll be on vent/aim if you need me zo
[05:12] <zohaib1020> ok
[05:14]  * mr---t- says hi to frybye
[05:15] <zach_> so are you updating and upgrading?
[05:15] <frybye> hi all - when transfering files from one pc on home net to the other (large file-) i notice the speed is only about 5+Mbs - but the hardware should do >100mbs - what will the reason be for this..?
[05:15] <frybye> hi mr---t-
[05:15] <zohaib1020> i finished updating and upgrading
[05:15] <zach_> restart comp
[05:15] <zohaib1020> ok
[05:15] <flaccid> frybye: the hardware shouldn't do that. that is merely a maximum
[05:16] <frybye> flaccid: - like that is a laboratory value that nowone in the real world ever gets or...?
[05:17] <flaccid> you might get it sometimes. there is many variables involved.
[05:17] <flaccid> tcp overhead is something that makes it unachievable in total to begin with..
[05:17] <frybye> ic - i guess that with vista (sp1) on the other end might not help...
[05:17] <zohaib1020> im back
[05:17] <zach_> frybye, its like a base line maximum without the real world  factors involved
[05:18] <frybye> right---
[05:18] <flaccid> well it also depends which protocol over tcp you are doing. vista to vista is actually faster than ubuntu to ubuntu with the new smb
[05:18] <frybye> so on a big mp3- file the 5mbs is pretty normal - yeah?
[05:18] <flaccid> its pretty good...
[05:18] <frybye> ok - I am pacified.. heheh
[05:19] <zach_> zohaib1020, try running the dpkg-reconfigure again
[05:19] <zach_> without -phigh
[05:19] <zohaib1020> ok
[05:21] <zohaib1020> didnt work, was just as it was earlier
[05:21] <zach_> ok
[05:21] <zach_> this must be a fubared version of xserver -.-
[05:21] <zach_> you need to either downgrade or upgrade your xserver
[05:22] <zohaib1020> how do i do that
[05:22] <flaccid> why would you need to do that?
[05:22] <flaccid> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[05:24] <zohaib1020> do what now?
[05:25] <zach_> researching give me a sec
[05:26] <zohaib1020> ok
[05:26] <zach_> ahh yes
[05:26] <zach_> i found you the perfect forum thread for this
[05:27] <zohaib1020> o cool
[05:27] <zach_> alright skip to the last post and follow those instructions
[05:27] <zach_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=730472
[05:28] <flaccid> you don't need to downgrade because resolution was taken from the reconfigure script in hardy. you simply add a resolution to xorg.conf
[05:29] <zohaib1020> skip to the last post?
[05:31] <zohaib1020> gksudo displayconfig
[05:31] <zohaib1020> thats the command i ran
[05:32] <zohaib1020> and its pretty much exactly like the settings gui in the system settings
[05:33] <zohaib1020> and it wont let me change my resolution
[05:34] <zach_> where'd you get that command from? o.o
[05:34] <zohaib1020> that was the last post in that thread
[05:34] <flaccid> thats why you put it explicitly in the xorg.conf and check the log :)
[05:35] <zohaib1020> flaccid, i have tried that
[05:36] <zach_> flaccid, i was recommending trying to get a proper reconfigure for xserver-xorg..one that queries monitor/display info
[05:36] <flaccid> zach_: that won't help
[05:36] <flaccid> zohaib1020: can i peruse the log and the xorg.conf used in that case?
[05:36] <zohaib1020> the one that didnt work?
[05:37] <zohaib1020> atm ive got quite a few xorg.conf files
[05:37] <zach_> flaccid, would you like to take over helping zohaib1020? im going to bed
[05:37] <flaccid> yes with explicity resolution in xorg.conf (and only the 1 resolution)
[05:37] <flaccid> zach_: um not really was just offering some input because this is common problem
[05:38] <zach_> hah then obviously it won't be to much trouble explaining how to fix this common problem.
[05:38] <zach_> night guys, good luck zohaib1020
[05:39] <zohaib1020> cya
[05:39] <zohaib1020> hope to see you again soon
[05:39] <flaccid> the common problem is that people are confused with removal of screen resolution option in dpkg-reconfigure. the actual issue with the resolution can be quite a few things
[05:39] <zohaib1020> ah
[05:40] <zohaib1020> ive tried this xorg.conf file : http://rafb.net/p/ZAFKuM84.html
[05:41] <zohaib1020> this is the one i was using with my vizio tv, to try to make it another screen
[05:41] <zohaib1020> i think it does have the screen resolution set
[05:41] <zohaib1020> but it didnt seem to work
[05:42] <flaccid> zohaib1020: there is no Modes in there for resolution!
[05:42] <zohaib1020> really?
[05:42] <flaccid> yeah
[05:43] <zohaib1020> then could you edit that file so that it would work?
[05:43] <zohaib1020> with either layout
[05:43] <flaccid> zohaib1020: here is an example of how you set it: http://rafb.net/p/AYP5T741.html
[05:44] <flaccid> so it goes in Section "Screen" and SubSection "Display" under Modes
[05:44] <zohaib1020> ah
[05:44] <zohaib1020> i think thats the way i currently have it
[05:44] <zohaib1020> http://rafb.net/p/Lg3tit10.html
[05:45] <zohaib1020> the other one was my old one
[05:45] <flaccid> !enter | zohaib1020
[05:46] <zohaib1020> use punctuations?
[05:46] <flaccid> zohaib1020: i see 5 modes. take out all but the desired one, logout to kdm, restart X server from kdm, then log back in then pastebin the log to check it out
[05:46] <flaccid> zohaib1020: try to keep it on one line if you can
[05:47] <zohaib1020> quick question, does ctrl+alt+backspace restart the xserver?
[05:48] <flaccid> zohaib1020: no, it hard kills X - bad practice
[05:48] <zohaib1020> ah, thanks
[05:48] <silvari> what IS the best way to restart the X server?
[05:49] <flaccid> silvari: logout and restart X server from kdm
[05:49] <zohaib1020> alright, ill logout and restart
[05:51] <zohaib1020> that xorg.conf file doesnt work
[05:52] <zohaib1020> or it doesnt error, but its not changing my screen resolution out of 800x600 exactly
[05:54] <flaccid> zohaib1020: err yes thats the point. now we check the log to see the problem. and i do hope this is with the 1 mode in the xorg.conf...
[05:54] <zohaib1020> yes, it is
[05:54] <zohaib1020> ill print the log in nopaste, where is it exactly
[05:55] <zohaib1020> the log that is.
[05:55] <flaccid> its /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:55] <zohaib1020> ok
[05:57] <zohaib1020> http://rafb.net/p/nUSPda37.html
[05:57] <zohaib1020> thats the log.
[05:57] <flaccid> and what is the single mode in the xorg.conf?
[05:58] <zohaib1020> 1280x1024
[05:59] <flaccid> line 382..
[05:59] <zohaib1020> yea
[06:00] <zohaib1020> that can be troublesome
[06:00] <flaccid> well at least we know the problem now
[06:00] <zohaib1020> yea
[06:00] <flaccid> find the problem is what you do first :)
[06:01] <flaccid> now i have to goto the bathroom, but already there is stuff on google. i'll be back in 10mins
[06:01] <zohaib1020> ok
[06:07] <flaccid> zohaib1020: can you pastebin xrandr -q please?
[06:07] <zohaib1020> ok
[06:07] <flaccid> oh and als sudo dccprobe
[06:07] <zohaib1020> Screen 0: minimum 800 x 600, current 800 x 600, maximum 800 x 600
[06:07] <zohaib1020> default connected 800x600+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[06:07] <zohaib1020>    800x600        50.0*
[06:08] <zohaib1020> the dccprobe command wasnt found
[06:09] <flaccid> sorry ddcprobe
[06:09] <zohaib1020> still no command found
[06:09] <flaccid> hmm ok. its wierd how it detects your crt as DAH @A@@? also
[06:10] <zohaib1020> yea
[06:10] <flaccid> what monitor is it?
[06:10] <zohaib1020> i noticed that in my nvidia-settings
[06:10] <zohaib1020> an Dell E773c
[06:10] <zohaib1020> its not a flatscreen
[06:12] <flaccid> zohaib1020: whats its max resolution? and can you pastebin cvt 1280 1024 60 -r
[06:12] <zohaib1020>  Modeline "1280x1024R"   90.75  1280 1328 1360 1440  1024 1027 1034 1054 +hsync -vsync
[06:18] <flaccid> you could try commenting out HorizSync and VertRefresh and adding the Modeline above
[06:19] <flaccid> then i think you cange mode to "1280x1024R"
[06:20] <zohaib1020> the whole thing
[06:20] <zohaib1020> ?
[06:20] <flaccid> looks like issue with your monitor - its not doing the plug n play stuff
[06:20] <flaccid> yeah the whole Modeline in monitor section and uncomment the other two
[06:20] <zohaib1020> ok
[06:21] <flaccid> so your Xorg is fine. but the monitor isn't :( unfortunate because xorg 7.x does resolutions automatically quite well
[06:22] <flaccid> give that a shot, pastebin the xorg log and i'll be back in 10mins or so
[06:23] <zohaib1020> alright
[06:23] <zohaib1020> ill restart the xserver, brb
[06:24] <zohaib1020> im back
[06:24] <zohaib1020> didnt work
[06:33] <zohaib1020> here is the log
[06:34] <zohaib1020> http://rafb.net/p/mh3APc68.html
[06:38] <flaccid> zohaib1020: ok
[06:39] <flaccid> what what the exact mode you used?
[06:41] <zohaib1020> the exact mode?
[06:42] <zohaib1020> "1280x1024"
[06:43] <generacion> hello
[06:43] <zohaib1020> hey
[06:44] <flaccid> zohaib1020: use "1280x1024R"  so it uses the modeline defined
[06:44] <zohaib1020> ok
[06:45] <zohaib1020> im going to restart xserver
[06:47] <zohaib1020> im back
[06:47] <zohaib1020> the resolution didnt change
[06:47] <zohaib1020> want me to paste the log again?
[06:48] <jonathan_> hello!
[06:48] <flaccid> oky
[06:48] <zohaib1020> hey
[06:48] <jonathan_> is anyone using the program kid3?
[06:48] <home2725> holaaaaaaaaa
[06:48] <flaccid> does this happen only with the "nvidia" driver, zohaib1020?
[06:49] <zohaib1020> i believe so
[06:50] <zohaib1020> http://rafb.net/p/oGzaMZ70.html
[06:52] <frybye> hi - when I close an application (here vlc-) and it appears to be gone but the (sound at least) is running in the background - how can i get processes displayed and kill the orphaned one.. with the command " ps " I dont seem to find it..?
[06:52] <flaccid> what is your dpkg -l | grep nvidia zohaib1020
[06:52] <zohaib1020> do i just enter that command?
[06:52] <flaccid> yeah and pastebin if more than 3 lines
[06:53] <zohaib1020> ii  nvidia-glx                                 1:96.43.05+2.6.24.13-18.41                         NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[06:53] <zohaib1020> ii  nvidia-kernel-common                       20051028+1ubuntu8                                  NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[06:53] <zohaib1020> ii  nvidia-settings                            1.0+20080304-0ubuntu1                              Tool of configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
[06:53] <zohaib1020> whats pastebin?
[06:53] <flaccid> zohaib1020: rafb.net service is a pastebin
[06:53] <zohaib1020> ah
[06:53] <flaccid> what is your lspci|grep VGA ?
[06:54] <frybye> zohaib1020:  here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[06:54] <zohaib1020> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000] (rev c1)
[06:55] <frybye> you copy and paste the result of the command in the text-field there.. enter your registered irc user name and then take the url from the top of that www page that is produced and put that in here for the other folks to go and look at.. ok?
[06:55] <zohaib1020> ah
[06:56] <peter__> alguem !?
[06:57] <flaccid> zohaib1020: pastebin glxinfo
[06:57] <frybye> my ? put differently - what is the extended version of the ps command - to show all running processes???
[06:57] <zohaib1020> ps -A
[06:58] <frybye> thanks pal...
[06:58] <peter__> rsrsrsr
[06:58] <flaccid> zohaib1020: also what is uname -r ?
[06:58] <peter__> brazilian ?
[06:58] <zohaib1020> the glxinfo command didnt work
[06:59] <zohaib1020> 2.6.24-18-generic
[06:59] <zohaib1020> thats for the uname
[07:00] <generacion> hello
[07:01] <flaccid> zohaib1020: i think it could be as simple as nvidia dropped support for this card so you need nvidia-glx-legacy: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+question/11957
[07:01] <suze> anyone has problem with java and konqueror?
[07:01] <suze> damn it doesn't work fine for me
[07:02] <zohaib1020> so install nvidia glx legacy?
[07:03] <flaccid> zohaib1020: yep thats what i'd try first
[07:03] <flaccid> then you can try the additional directives if you still have a problem
[07:04] <zohaib1020> ok
[07:06] <zohaib1020> ill try restarting x-server
[07:11] <zohaib1020> hey
[07:11] <zohaib1020> i downloaded the nvidia-glx-legacy package and restarted the xserver and everything i do is now cli based
[07:11] <zohaib1020> i cant run the x server
[07:11] <flaccid> check the log you probably have to reboot
[07:12] <zohaib1020> reboot completely?
[07:12] <flaccid> what is your dpkg -l | grep nvidia atm?
[07:12] <zohaib1020> wait ill brb
[07:12] <zohaib1020> im gonna get on my shell
[07:14] <zo1020> its a bit hard to check stuff when im running off of the sli
[07:14] <zo1020> btw, this is zohaib1020
[07:14] <zo1020> im gonna try a full reboot
[07:15] <flaccid> more /var/log/Xorg.0.log :)
[07:17] <zohaib1020> alright, my gui is back
[07:17] <zohaib1020> although the resolution hasnt changed
[07:18] <flaccid> pastebine xorg.conf, Xorg.0.log, dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia
[07:19] <zohaib1020> alright
[07:20] <zohaib1020> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20073/
[07:22] <zohaib1020> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20075/
[07:23] <zohaib1020> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20076/
[07:24] <zohaib1020> those are the three
[07:28]  * flaccid goes to look
[07:29] <flaccid> zohaib1020: for a start you didn't purge nvidia-glx  before installing the legacy
[07:29] <zohaib1020> nope
[07:29] <flaccid> zohaib1020: however, i would comment out the Modeline and the Mode and then restart X that should do it
[07:29] <zohaib1020> ok
[07:30] <zohaib1020> in monitor?
[07:30] <flaccid> zohaib1020: however you might need to find a proper modeline for your monitor or its sync rates, it doesn't like em
[07:30] <flaccid> yeah
[07:30] <zohaib1020> ok
[07:31] <flaccid> zohaib1020: so comment out Modeline in monitor and Modes in screen
[07:31] <zohaib1020> and also the modes in the screen subsection display?
[07:31] <flaccid> yeah  Modes      "1280x1024" . however note that should of been  Modes      "1280x1024R" !
[07:32] <zohaib1020> i changed it earlier when i left the gui to see if it worked
[07:32] <flaccid> no worries. doing it with no resolutions we see if there is a dif problem because it seems to like this driver
[07:33] <zohaib1020> ok
[07:33] <zohaib1020> ill restart x server
[07:34] <zohaib1020> didnt work
[07:34] <zohaib1020> im gonna be afk for 10 mins while i use the restroom
[07:34] <flaccid> log please..
[07:37] <romunov> away for 10 mins to use the restroom
[07:37] <romunov> i would call that ABuse!
[07:39] <zohaib1020> im back
[07:39] <zohaib1020> you need the log?
[07:39] <SaraSmith> before my husband's new computer would NOT boot with the live cd. (he's using his old hd and data). it hasn't been able to see the internet or the gui.. now it's got the gui.. it's asking which version to install. i was going to try to find out what ip it thinks it has.. now i can't get it NOT to use the gui and give me a prompt.
[07:40] <silvari> zohaib1020: i think it's kinda funny that you just left, to use the restroom for 10 mins, and are back asking if he wants "the log"
[07:41] <zohaib1020> lol
[07:41] <flaccid> zohaib1020: thats what i said :)
[07:41] <zohaib1020> heres the log
[07:41] <zohaib1020> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20078/
[07:42] <flaccid> zohaib1020: it doesn't like your monitor
[07:42] <zohaib1020> ugh
[07:43] <flaccid> zohaib1020: try again with uncommenting the rates and/or find what your monitor needs for xorg.conf - google
[07:43] <zohaib1020> ok
[07:43] <flaccid> whats the exact model?
[07:43] <zohaib1020> E773c Dell
[07:46] <flaccid> zohaib1020: you could try http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=136135
[07:46] <zohaib1020> i saw that
[07:47] <zohaib1020> my horiz and vert syncs are already commented out
[07:48] <zohaib1020> maybe i should try using nvidia-xconfig
[07:48] <flaccid> zohaib1020: there is 2 other directives they use in there.. also there is this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-28131.html
[07:48] <flaccid> you can try that too
[07:48] <flaccid> see what sudo nvidia-settings does
[07:50] <zohaib1020> ok
[07:51] <flaccid> and this monitor may nt have a max resolution of that big..
[07:51] <zohaib1020> i dont have the option to use nvidia-xconfig
[07:51] <zohaib1020> and settings tells me to use that
[07:52] <flaccid> try the other options...
[07:53] <flaccid> max resolution is 1024x768: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=E773C3Y
[07:54] <zohaib1020> hmm
[07:54] <zohaib1020> i see
[07:55] <flaccid> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/e773c/EN/ug/about.htm#Specifications
[07:56] <flaccid> yeah you are stretching it a bit to get the 1280x1024
[07:58] <zohaib1020> ah
[07:58] <zohaib1020> im gonna try using that change in the forum topic
[07:58] <zohaib1020> restarting xserver
[07:59] <zohaib1020> no difference =(
[08:00] <flaccid> well at least you know this is right:
[08:00] <flaccid> HorizSync 30-70 and VertRefresh 50-160
[08:00] <XenThraL> c++ question, #c++ isnt helping me, just in case someone here can
[08:00] <XenThraL> I have a std::list of pointers to objects and whenever the last of the objects pointed to on the list calls .remove(this) I get a segfault, seems like a interior iterator gets incremented pointing to nothing - anyone know why .remove does this?
[08:00] <flaccid> XenThraL: not the right place
[08:01] <XenThraL> if no one can help me, no one will
[08:01] <XenThraL> not like the channel is hopping busy
[08:01] <flaccid> zohaib1020: you need to try all the things people try. i still think something wrong with monitor
[08:01] <zohaib1020> ah
[08:01] <flaccid> XenThraL: if nobody can help, nobody can help. this is kubuntu support, not development
[08:02] <flaccid> zohaib1020: thats about all i can suggest and reading the log messages carefully
[08:02] <zohaib1020> alright
[08:02] <zohaib1020> im about to goto bed
[08:02] <XenThraL> eh, not like I'm flooding or something
[08:02] <zohaib1020> yea
[08:02] <flaccid> XenThraL: not the point
[08:03] <zohaib1020> xenthrall
[08:03] <XenThraL> heh, my point was, no harm done
[08:04] <flaccid> i didn't see any harm either. was simply letting you know :)
[08:04] <Cr3X3d> hi
[08:04] <XenThraL> hello
[08:04] <Cr3X3d> any hungarian people?
[08:07] <flaccid> !hungary | Cr3X3d
[08:08] <Cr3X3d> thx
[08:08] <flaccid> np
[08:09] <Conundrum_> guys
[08:09] <sigma_> how do i restart alsa?
[08:09] <Conundrum_> anyone knows how to get mp3 support for kde 4.0 / amarok?
[08:09] <Conundrum_> i don't know which package to get
[08:09] <flaccid> !mp3 | Conundrum_
[08:11] <Conundrum_> alright thanks
[08:11] <flaccid> sigma_: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[08:11] <Conundrum_> flaccid: don't you need a root terminal to restart a a daemon?
[08:12] <flaccid> !root | Conundrum_
[08:12] <flaccid> negative, sudo gives root
[08:12] <Conundrum_> hmm
[08:12] <Conundrum_> ok
[08:12] <Conundrum_> can i sudo passwd for root?
[08:12] <Conundrum_> ;]
[08:12] <flaccid> yes
[08:16] <lat> I'm using Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE4 on an AMD64 machine. For some reason files downloaded to my desktop do not show up as icons (in fact they don't show up at all), but I can see that they are in the Desktop folder by using Dolphin. Is there a way to correct this?
[08:16] <flaccid> lat: its intentional and kde4 help in #kubuntu-kde4
[08:17] <sigma_> does kubuntu use alsa or pulseaudio by default?
[08:17] <flaccid> alsa
[08:17] <lat> flaccid, ok, thanks!
[08:17] <flaccid> np
[08:23] <sigma_> i need to use a .asoundrc file for my creative 5.1 file. where should i put it so alsa reads it on startup?
[08:23] <sigma_> creative 5.1 soundcard
[08:35] <sigma_> my pc is using oss for sound, how do i get it to use alsa all the time?
[08:38] <Malic> Hi! Is there something like Gnome do for kubuntu?
[08:40] <sigma_> Gnome do?
[08:40] <flaccid> Malic: can you rephrase your question?
[08:41] <Jucato> !katapult | Malic
[08:41] <Malic> yes.. i think the prog is called "genome do"
[08:41] <Malic> gnome
[08:41] <Jucato> katapult is like it, but older, less maintained, and um... less featured?
[08:44] <Malic> yes i know katapult..but i prefere Alt-F2. "Gnome do" looks very nice an comfortable
[08:44] <Jucato> then change keyboard shortcuts. disable KDE's Alt+F2 binding and give it to Katapult
[08:44] <Jucato> your call
[08:44] <Jucato> just answering your previous question
[08:48] <sigma_> Jucato: how do i disable oss so alsa is used by default?
[08:48] <Jucato> sigma_: sorry. no idea
[08:49] <Malic> hm.. is google down?? ^^
[08:49] <sigma_> nope
[09:21] <ccamacho> how can I launch a plasmoid that I just installed from some repository?
[09:25] <mary_> I have a quick question.  I'm trying to move some data from a desktop to a new laptop using scp, but it won't accept any passwords
[09:25] <mary_> I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask it.
[09:26] <mary_> I'd guess it wants the user password for the destination machine, but that doesn't work...
[09:29] <singhz> hi
[09:32] <gorg> help! youtube video's doesn't work anymore, neither in firefox or in konquerer... OS is a fairly new install, not installed to much, other than some codecs
[09:32] <Pennycook> gorg: Have you installed Flash?
[09:32] <gorg> ..page opens but where video is suppose to open nothing is
[09:33] <gorg> Pennycook:  sry i am a newbie, i believe i have,. but is there a fast way to check it?
[09:34] <jussi01> !flash | singhz
[09:34] <Pennycook> "apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree" in a terminal should tell you if you have it installed.
[09:35] <gorg> flashplugin-nonfree:  Installed: 9.0.124.0ubuntu2  Candidate: 9.0.124.0ubuntu2  Version table: *** 9.0.124.0ubuntu2 0        500 http://no.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/multiverse Packages        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[09:35] <jussi01> !pm | singhz
[09:35] <singhz> can sum1 plz tell me whr i can get flash plugin for konquerer
[09:36] <jussi01> singhz: read the link from ubottu!
[09:37] <gorg> Pennycook: 9.0.124.0 ubuntu2 ...it seems i have installed. so what may i do from now?
[09:37] <gorg> seems that it does not work?
[09:38] <singhz> which link??
[09:39] <Serega> hi there
[09:40] <nyuu> ow hi
[09:41] <Serega> guys, my mp3 player is mounted without a proper iocharset option, where can I add this option? I guess it's udev/hal configs but can't find
[09:41] <Serega> btw, ubuntu mounts it well
[09:41] <nyuu> I want to ask a question about Konsole
[09:41] <Serega> shoot
[09:42] <nyuu> ubuntu's bash command area could give me possibilities with 'double' tab
[09:42] <nyuu> why konsole can't
[09:45] <Serega> nyuu: "double" tab?
[09:47] <singhz> i tried 2 install flash player but its still not working
[09:47] <singhz> plz help
[09:48] <Serega> singhz: what player did you install and how?
[09:49] <singhz> flash player frm a link given by ubottu
[09:51] <Serega> singhz: please give me the link. Why don't you install that from the repository?
[09:51] <flaccid> i think the user did
[09:52] <singhz> sorry i dnt hav d link nd m new 2 kubuntu is it in the add remove
[09:52] <nyuu> Serega: yea doubble tab
[09:52] <Serega> flaccid: remind me a proper factoid about these "short" words :)
[09:53] <flaccid> check if its installed with dpkg -l | grep flashplugin-nonfree
[09:53] <flaccid> short words?
[09:53] <Serega> "dnt hav" etc
[09:53] <singhz> i reckon i might hav found it
[09:53] <nyuu> While in ubuntu, I could install programs with double tab button
[09:53] <Serega> afaik factoid was about s/u/you
[09:54]  * flaccid is confused
[09:54] <singhz> no :(
[09:54] <Serega> don't mind
[09:54] <nyuu> I mean if I wrote "sudo apt-get install sta.." it could find stardict thorugh the programs
[09:54] <JoshOvki> Serega, its !u
[09:54] <nyuu> but with Konsole... I can't find the program with tab
[09:55] <flaccid> !doesnt work | nyuu
[09:55] <Serega> !u | singhz
[09:55] <Serega> JoshOvki: many thanks :)
[09:55] <singhz> ok
[09:55] <Serega> nyuu: ohh... it must be working
[09:55] <nyuu> ok I see ^^
[09:56] <TameLion> mornin o/
[09:56] <TameLion> Is teh googles broken?
[09:56] <nyuu> I mean ' I can't find a way to make it work'
[09:57] <nyuu> do you know how to ... ?
[09:57] <Serega> nyuu: please check this: dpkg --get-selections | grep  bash-completion
[09:57] <nyuu> ok
[09:58] <nyuu> the problem is still continues :(
[09:58] <nyuu> should I restart the Konsole?
[09:58] <Serega> nyuu: give the output
[09:59]  * flaccid doesn't understand but anyway
[09:59] <flaccid> oh tab completion
[09:59] <flaccid> i'll just be quiet now
[09:59] <Serega> nyuu: do you get this? "bash-completion                                 install"
[09:59] <nyuu> there is no output
[09:59] <Serega> nyuu: sudo apt-get install bash-completion
[10:01] <nyuu> still ...
[10:01] <nyuu> it installed some stuff but
[10:01] <nyuu> ...
[10:01] <flaccid> might need to re-login - reset the login shell
[10:01] <Serega> nyuu: I guess it is time to restart bash
[10:01] <nyuu> when I click the tab buton, it gives me a beep sound
[10:01] <Serega> flaccid: yes, it might be even relogin
[10:02] <flaccid> yay i got something right maybe :)
[10:02] <naxa> hi. is there thumbnail view in Krusader? How can i turn it on?
[10:02] <Serega> nyuu: about bell: Konsole menu/Settigns/Bell/None
[10:03] <flaccid> naxa: ive never seen one
[10:03] <nyuu> no, the bell doesn't bother me ^^
[10:03] <Serega> naxa: I guess no as it's *commander-like filemanager
[10:04] <Serega> nyuu: try to relogin and check the completion
[10:04] <nyuu> ok
[10:04] <naxa> Serega, flaccid: thank you. However, wikipedia tells it has thumbnails, in the comparsion of file managers page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_managers#Cross_platform
[10:04] <nyuu> the simple login/ log out will work or restart the system ?
[10:05] <gorg> i think i have same same problem as nyuu
[10:05] <Serega> nyuu: just logout/login
[10:06] <gorg> when i tab-tab it says i've got bash-completion is already the newest version
[10:07] <flaccid> naxa: i guess it could be wrong or we don't know where the feature is
[10:09] <naxa> flaccid, thank you!
[10:09] <flaccid> naxa: there is some stuff on google but nothing to suggest it actually exists
[10:09] <flaccid> np..
[10:10] <nyuu> ow thannkk you ^^
[10:10] <nyuu> it starts to work
[10:13] <gorg> i am having trouble loading video's in youtube:
[10:13] <gorg> Error: http://youtube.com/: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: onLoadFunctionListError: http://youtube.com/: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: SWFObjectError: node : TypeError: Undefined value
[10:14] <gorg> <-- javascript errors
[10:14] <ougs> How do I bring up my wileles interface in rescue mode? (no X)
[10:14] <ougs> (wireless)
[10:15] <flaccid> gorg: can't really do anything about that besides contact youtube and the developers of the browser you are using
[10:15] <gorg> ok
[10:15] <flaccid> ougs: iwconfig and ifconfig
[10:16] <ougs> flaccid: yeh I know about them, but i didn't know what to do with them. Can you give me a step-by step?
[10:16] <ougs> (pleae)
[10:17] <flaccid> ougs: there is lots on google
[10:18] <flaccid> ougs: also this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[10:18] <gorg> flaccid: i switched to firefox and can still not launch video's in youtube... rightmouseclick on where the video should show tells me that it is Gnash which an application which is being used here
[10:19] <ougs> flaccid: thanks for the link! Exactly what i needed :D
[10:19] <flaccid> np
[10:20] <flaccid> gorg: i don't understand sorry. so flashplugin-nonfree is installed? what does file /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so return ?
[10:22] <gorg> flaccid: what do u mean with return?
[10:23] <gorg> seems like i modified that file 2 days back
[10:23] <gorg> or installed it
[10:23] <flaccid> gorg: type in konsole: file /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[10:23] <flaccid> what does it say?
[10:23] <gorg> ok 2 sec
[10:24] <gorg> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), stripped
[10:24] <nyuu> configure: error: You must have libxml2 >= 2.5.0 installed ??
[10:24] <nyuu> how can I find it
[10:24] <mary_> does kubuntu have a firewall that will block scp by default?
[10:24] <flaccid> nyuu: http://packages.ubuntu.com and google
[10:24] <nyuu> I couldn't find with sudo apt-get install libxml
[10:24] <flaccid> mary_: not by default but you can install iptables
[10:24] <nyuu> ok
[10:25] <mary_> argh, I can't figure out why scp won't work..
[10:25] <flaccid> gorg: flash is installed, problem seems to be firefox, what does about:plugins say you have installed?
[10:25] <flaccid> mary_: which error is being returned?
[10:26] <mary_> it just keeps asking for the password
[10:26] <flaccid> mary_: is this a gui or cli ?
[10:26] <mary_> strangely enough, if I put in the user password for the machine i'm scp'ing from, it acts like it's doing something (forever) but isn't
[10:28] <nyuu> ow there is a problem
[10:28] <mary_> cli.  and, I just figured out my problem.  using a local address for the file on the local machine instead of spelling it out works
[10:28] <flaccid> mary_: what is the scp command you are running? you might wanna check loggin in with ssh using the exact user and pass as well
[10:28] <nyuu> it has already showed that I have the latest pacgace
[10:29] <flaccid> mary_: i don't understand still. so you had a syntax error it seems
[10:29] <nyuu> but the program says get the higher version
[10:29] <mary_> yes.  i was doing scp -r user@ip:/file user@ip:/file
[10:29] <gorg> flaccid: sry, about:plugins ? is this within firefox menu somewhere?
[10:30] <nyuu> what can I do for now?
[10:30] <mary_> doing scp -r file user@ip:/file works.  thanks.
[10:30] <flaccid> gorg: address bar yes
[10:30] <nyuu> libxml++c2a
[10:30] <flaccid> mary_: yeah syntax
[10:30] <flaccid> have fun!
[10:30] <mary_> i feel inane for wasting over an hour with ssh keys when i had a syntax problem =/
[10:30] <ougs> sudo ifconfig up eth1 --> eth1: unknown host
[10:30] <flaccid> mary_: happens sometimes
[10:31] <ougs> what's wrong? (eth1 is my wifi device)
[10:31] <flaccid> ougs: invalid command
[10:32] <ougs> sudo ifup eth1 -> Ignoring unknown interface eth1=eth1.
[10:33] <flaccid> it probably needs to be configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:34] <flaccid> ougs: what does ifconfig eth1 say?
[10:35] <nyuu> my other problem is,, I can't install my native language through the settings panel...
[10:35] <nyuu> is there a way to do it through the bash
[10:36] <flaccid> what settings panel sorry?
[10:36] <nyuu> System settings...
[10:37] <nyuu> K > System Settings > Region
[10:38] <flaccid> why did it fail there?
[10:39] <nyuu> I don't know
[10:39] <nyuu> when I click to add a new language
[10:39] <nyuu> it waits a while, then ...
[10:39] <nyuu> nothing happens
[10:39] <flaccid> is this kde3 ?
[10:40] <nyuu> yea
[10:40] <nyuu> I don't like kde4 ^^
[10:40] <flaccid> you could ask how to change manual in #kde and optionally submit a bug
[10:40] <nyuu> ok
[10:40] <nyuu> thanks anywat
[10:40] <flaccid> np
[10:42] <shooood> #ubuntu
[10:48] <lakis1982> can someone helpme with my kubuntu
[10:48] <lakis1982> im newbie
[10:49] <flaccid> !ask | lakis1982
[10:55] <JoshOvki> lakis1982: you going to tell us whats wrong?
[10:58] <meinolf> Hi,kann mir einer bei Kubuntu helfen?
[10:58] <flaccid> !de | meinolf
[10:59] <meinolf> will nur ein update machen,weil der soudtreiber nicht funktioniert,klappt leider nicht,
[10:59] <flaccid> english only here meinolf
[11:01] <meinolf> ok,by,by meinolf
[11:10] <nyuu> ow hi back
[11:11] <nyuu> I have a problem with my Stardict
[11:12] <JoshOvki> nyuu: are you going to elaberate on that?
[11:12] <nyuu> I have installed some dictionaries and there is no problem with see them in stardict program, but when I try to click a word, I take a 'data parsing...'  massage without any convert !!
[11:14] <nyuu> HTML data parsing plug-in is not found!
[11:15] <nyuu> JoshOvki: do you have a suggestion for that?
[11:18] <JoshOvki> nyuu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/stardict/+bug/219609
[11:18] <nyuu> eh? what does it mean?
[11:18] <JoshOvki> click the link
[11:19] <nyuu> ok
[11:19] <nyuu> it says re-install...
[11:19] <nyuu> ok
[11:20] <lakis1982> hello . im newbie in kubuntu so i have some problems... i have the default look of kubuntu in desktop just like it is when you install kubuntu for the first time .... i had an accident .. i right click on the black taskbar and it dissapeared ... so i added it from add widgets function
[11:20] <lakis1982> it took me long time to find it
[11:20] <JoshOvki> lakis1982: kde4?
[11:20] <nyuu> oww noo
[11:20] <nyuu> it still continues
[11:21] <JoshOvki> nyuu: thats not good then
[11:21] <nyuu> yea ^^
[11:21] <lakis1982> now the problem is that the desktop icons , the klipper tool icon the clock remain just next to the k menu and i want them to be in the right part of taskbar
[11:21] <nyuu> but I used sudo apt-get remove .. stuff to remove them
[11:21] <lakis1982> yes kde4
[11:22] <JoshOvki> !kde4 | lakis1982
[11:22] <flaccid> !kde4 | lakis1982
[11:22] <flaccid> oops
[11:22] <JoshOvki> flaccid: copy cat ;)
[11:23] <lakis1982> how can i see which kubuntu version i have .. i downloaded an dinstalled kubuntu yesterday
[11:23] <nyuu> :(
[11:23] <flaccid> JoshOvki: no a big blind cat i am :)
[11:24] <flaccid> lakis1982: lsb_release -r
[11:24] <lakis1982> hello . im newbie in kubuntu so i have some problems... i have the default look of kubuntu in desktop just like it is when you install kubuntu for the first time .... i had an accident .. i right click on the black taskbar and it dissapeared ... so i added it from add widgets function
[11:24] <flaccid> lakis1982: we dont support kde4 here!
[11:24] <lakis1982> it took me long time to find it
[11:24] <lakis1982> now the problem is that the desktop icons , the klipper tool icon the clock remain just next to the k menu and i want them to be in the right part of taskbar
[11:25] <lakis1982> ops sorry
[11:25] <lakis1982> i messed it up with chat windows
[11:25] <flaccid> !enter | lakis1982
[11:29] <drurew> what is the process to upgrade to kde four ? :apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ....no apt-get remove "previous-DE"?
[11:30] <flaccid> drurew: its in the link in the topic
[11:30] <drurew> ahhh
[11:30] <drurew>  thanks flaccid
[11:30] <flaccid> np
[11:31] <flaccid> hmm maybe not
[11:31] <flaccid> !kde4 | drur
[11:31] <flaccid> its in that link at least
[11:36] <christoz> hey guys,i've heard that tomorrow will be  packet creating lessons ,in which channel exacly?
[11:37] <JoshOvki> christoz: psst   https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay
[11:38] <christoz> ok JoshOvki  thanks
[11:38] <salvatore_> ciao
[11:39] <christoz> JoshOvki, actually i'm using gnome ,it is the same thing eh?
[11:39] <christoz> hey vistakiller :P
[11:40] <vistakiller> hi :P
[11:40] <JoshOvki> christoz: more than likaly, although they may use problems that are only in kde
[11:55] <lakis1982> i installed applucations and i cant find them anywhere in kmenu
[11:55] <lakis1982> how do i put them in kmenu
[11:55] <lakis1982> ?
[11:58] <flaccid> menu editor
[11:59] <lakis1982> i cant find this menu editor
[11:59] <flaccid> are you on kde4?
[11:59] <lakis1982> yes
[11:59] <lakis1982> 4.0.3
[11:59] <flaccid> didn't we already tell you support for that isn't here?
[12:01] <singhz> can someone plz recomennd a good dvd player for kubuntu
[12:01] <flaccid> singhz: kaffeine or vlc player generally..
[12:01] <francesco> !it
[12:01] <singhz> kaffeine isnt playing d dvd
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> hey all, how can I make amarok not show the main window when it loads and just stay as an icon on the tray?
[12:02] <flaccid> singhz: maybe you need a codec
[12:02] <singhz> which codec where do i get it
[12:03] <flaccid> !dvd | singhz
[12:04] <sharpe_uk> still running into issues with flash9 versions later than 9r48, is this a known problem? (fwiw 9r48 works perfectly but has known security exploits)
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: can you please tell me how I can run amarok but only have it run to the tray icon and not show the main window
[12:05] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: heard you first time
[12:06] <flaccid> sharpe_uk: yep
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> flaccid: sorry man
[12:06] <sharpe_uk> figured it was, after running into it on 4 different machines of mine running 7.10, 8.04 and Slackware 12 I started to rule out I was just unlucky
[12:07] <sharpe_uk> guess I stick with r48 till they fix whatever is broken
[12:07] <flaccid> flash is never fixed sharpe_uk
[12:09] <sharpe_uk> >flaccid, its not flash at fault this time (since it works just fine under firefox) its down to the way nspluginviewer handles things
[12:09] <sharpe_uk> though yes you could argue flash was at fault becuase they changed the way it works (but then thats what happens with proprietary code and thats just a fact of life I guess)
[12:10] <flaccid> sharpe_uk: thats what you think...
[12:10] <flaccid> yeah
[12:11] <flaccid> i mean because it works with something never concludes anything
[12:12] <sharpe_uk> indeed however it does show that the shared library object is working and if it works for firefox and not for konqueror on the same site then you have to start looking at konqueror as the problem (have to start somewhere)
[12:13] <sharpe_uk> and nspluginviewer has caused enough problems in the past
[12:13] <flaccid> no it doesn't
[12:13] <flaccid> it shows its working for 1 application, not for all..
[12:15] <ChOPIn> ola
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> short and sweet
[12:19] <flaccid> ActionParsnip: did you try asking in #amarok?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> no, id check it out dude, cheers :)
[12:19] <ken> try googling ActionParsnip
[12:19] <ken> i saw a solution just now on google ;]
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> i always do, ken
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> :D
[12:20] <Conundrum_> http://amarok.kde.org/forum/index.php?topic=15303.msg22401
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Conundrum_: im running fluxbox btw, most solutions are for kde
[12:22] <flaccid> yeah i couldn't see it in man amarok
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> ooooh
[12:35] <leo_> join #kubuntu-es
[12:47] <ougs_> kde3 hangs when loading due to some "netbeans" stealing all resources before splash screen
[12:48] <ougs_> changing user does not help
[12:48] <flaccid> i guess you could submit a bug
[12:49] <ougs_> well, this heppened after installing some stuff, so what i need help with is to get back to how it was before
[12:49] <flaccid> i don't know what you did before
[12:49] <ougs_> where is the list of what kde loads initially?
[12:50] <ougs_> i installed jun-java5-bin, and ThinkingRock (java based)
[12:50] <sharpe_uk> if you have "Restore Previous Session" configured in the option's KDE will re-open all the applications you were using when you logged out
[12:50] <flaccid> i don't think there is one. its not simple like that anyway
[12:50] <sharpe_uk> on Kubuntu thats on by default (and is annoying till its turned off)
[12:50] <ougs_> how do i turn it off without loading kde?
[12:51] <gianluca> kscdjcnw
[12:51] <flaccid> i dont think ougs_ is referring to kde sessions..
[12:51] <gianluca> prima connessione con ubuntu
[12:51] <flaccid> gianluca: english only here
[12:51] <gianluca> ok
[12:51] <ougs_> flaccid:; well, id MIGHT help, although i don't think it will -> still worth a try
[12:51] <gianluca> sorry
[12:52] <flaccid> sessions merely load what you had last, it has nothing to do with software installation
[12:53] <sharpe_uk> >flaccid, there is a bug when using restore previous sessions and java based software, I ran across it on a forum a while back and had issues with netbeans as well
[12:53] <flaccid> sharpe_uk: link please?
[12:54] <ougs_> brilliant sharpe_uk. that sounds like my problem
[12:54] <flaccid> ok then find the bug..
[12:54] <flaccid> but report
[12:55] <flaccid> bug report i mean
[12:55] <ougs_> so... as a temporary workaround... "How do i turn off Restore Session ?"
[12:56] <flaccid> ougs_: session manager in system settings
[12:56] <Conundrum_> guys how do i make kpowersave run upon startup in kde?
[12:56] <flaccid> !autostart | Conundrum_
[12:57] <flaccid> ougs_: you can do an exclusion of that program as well if you want it to stay on
[12:57] <sharpe_uk> cant find a simple answer to "where does KDE store its restore session info" Im going to have to poke around
[12:57] <ougs_> well, i would  exclude it if i could , but i have no idea which executable it is.
[12:58] <Conundrum_> thanks flaccid
[12:58] <flaccid> ougs_: check the properties of the menu entry i guess
[12:58] <flaccid> np
[12:58] <flaccid> or check top or ksysguard etc.
[12:58] <Dragnslcr> Anyone else have Network Settings suddenly saying that "Your platform is not supported"?
[12:58] <flaccid> you coul also check the package contents
[12:59] <sharpe_uk> found it! /home/<user>/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc
[12:59] <sharpe_uk> try nuking that and restarting KDE
[12:59] <voonte> anyone has a deb for the cmake qt4 gui?
[12:59] <flaccid> sharpe_uk: that won't help for future sessions. and no reason to delete the config file..
[12:59] <Ninjara> When I do 'ssh -X user@host kdesudo gproftpd' I get "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication".  It works fine with a manual 'sudo' before the 'gproftpd' command, from console, but how do I get it to accept the X connection with the kdesudo method?
[12:59] <Conundrum_> there's no control center in kde 4 yet right?
[12:59] <sharpe_uk> >flaccid, if he can get it started *once* he can disable restore for future sessions
[13:00] <flaccid> Conundrum_: correct
[13:00] <sharpe_uk> >flaccid, at this point he cant even get KDE up, doing that first would help
[13:00] <ougs_> sharpe_uk: exactly
[13:00] <flaccid> i wasn't aware you couldn't use kde..
[13:01] <flaccid> you can also run systemsettings from any window manager, like failsafe..
 kde3 hangs when loading due to some "netbeans" stealing all resources before splash screen
[13:01] <stdin> Conundrum_: systemsettings is the KDE4 control center
[13:01] <flaccid> sharpe_uk: yes. i stand corrected, still failsafe would of been fine :)
[13:02] <sharpe_uk> >ougs_, if you can spare me two minutes, Ill test it (in case it breaks something) and let you know if it works..should do but safer for me to try it
[13:02] <sharpe_uk> ?
[13:02] <ougs_> actually, i did the failsafe thingy, but is's still good to know ehere the info is stored
[13:02] <sharpe_uk> so you are sorted?
[13:02] <ougs_> so i'm going to restart kde3 now without removing the rc file.
[13:02] <ougs_> it probebly won't work, but we'll see
[13:03] <flaccid> its just that i think ksmserverrc stores more than just session data...
[13:03] <sharpe_uk> >flaccid, Ive found (that becuase KDE is very well written) you can get away with just nuking config files that are causing a problem and KDE will still start (usually by recreating them on the fly)
[13:03] <sharpe_uk> >flaccid, its not elegant but it works and sometimes thats all you need to fix the underlying problem
[13:03] <flaccid> sharpe_uk: yeah but i usually avoid this nuke method when possible
[13:04] <stdin> use mv <config file>{,.bak}
[13:04] <sharpe_uk> so do I except where its quicker, knowing when to do it and when not to comes with experience I guess
[13:04] <Sadr> ehm, how long does the "check CD for errors" (or something similar to that) usually take?
[13:04] <sharpe_uk> nods@stdin that would also be safer (least you can recover if it doesnt work)
[13:05] <flaccid> yep
[13:05] <Sadr> I'm doing a dual boot install of kubuntu right now, but chose to check the cd before installing...
[13:05] <sharpe_uk> >Sadr, it can take a while, its doing a hash check of the whole disk
[13:05] <Sadr> a rought estimate please? :)
[13:06] <Sadr> 80% thourugh the integrity check right now. anything after that?
[13:07] <Sadr> (hash check, integrity check, potato potato? :P  )
[13:07]  * flaccid needs a sanity check
[13:07]  * Sadr needs a techbuff
[13:08] <Sadr> yay, done :)
[13:08] <sharpe_uk> depends on external factors, speed of the cd-drive, speed of the processor
[13:08] <sharpe_uk> generating hashes is computationally expensive
[13:09] <Sadr> I see
[13:09] <Sadr> if this all goes well I might even do a dual boot on my vista comp. that's the whole reason why I finally turned to Kubunty anyways
[13:09] <Sadr> you can thank Vista for my renewed interest in Linux :P
[13:10] <sharpe_uk> lol, Vista seems to be a brilliant marketing tool for linux at the moment :)
[13:10] <Sadr> haha yeah :D
[13:10] <Sadr> XP was just starting to mature... with SP3 it's quite nice really
[13:10] <Sadr> but vista...
[13:10] <Sadr> I have no fkin idea where the hell all that power goes
[13:11] <Sadr> had to get a real monster of a machine to run the damn thing, and what the heck do I get back for it?...
[13:11] <Sadr> you tell me...
[13:11] <Sadr> please, tell me :P
[13:13] <Sadr> now to see if I can access internet...
[13:13] <flaccid> !enter | Sadr
[13:14] <Sadr> :) kk, my apologies. now, where can I read about establishing an internet connection?..
[13:15] <Sadr> for my stationary I'm using a Jensen AirLink for WLAN; a) should I download a driver somewhere? b) should I just plug it in?, c) use the CD? d) something else?..
[13:17] <sharpe_uk> >Sadr, that USB?
[13:17] <flaccid> !wireless | Sadr
[13:17] <flaccid> check compat first..
[13:17] <flaccid> Sadr: and you basically just use knetworkmanager..
[13:18] <Sadr> hm okay, thanks a bunch
[13:18] <Conundrum_> !autostart
[13:18] <sharpe_uk> if you use a USB dongle for wireless access make sure its plugged in before installing (then usually if its supported kubuntu finds it during installation and sets it up)
[13:19] <sharpe_uk> otherwise you can look at ndiswrapper which allows you to use the windows drivers on linux
[13:20] <The_ManU_212> hi my shortcut for killing a window isnt working anymore: ctrl+alt+esc, whats the reason, i only wanted ksnapshot to open with "print" but it only worked with a shortcut ctrl+print (perhaps because print is set for another option)
[13:20] <flaccid> there is a support list above in the wifidocs etc.
[13:20] <Conundrum_> any idea where i can find my executables?
[13:20] <athlon1> hallo, anyone can tell me how can i say firefox to detect my java machines? Thanks...
[13:21] <Conundrum_> kde apps to be specific
[13:22] <The_ManU_212> Conundrum_: often in /usr/bin
[13:22] <flaccid> Conundrum_: check properties of the menu item in menu editor or check the pkg contents, they all in /usr/bin usually..
[13:22] <llutz> Conundrum_: they are mostly in /usr/bin/
[13:22] <The_ManU_212> llutz: :p
[13:22] <flaccid> dang
[13:22] <llutz> thanks flaccid, i'm not last :)
[13:23] <flaccid> haha
[13:23] <Conundrum_> alright problem solved
[13:23] <Conundrum_> thanks
[13:23] <The_ManU_212> perhaps anyone of you can help me? llutz flaccid ^^
[13:24] <flaccid> The_ManU_212: perhaps #kde people can help with the shortcut thing?
[13:24] <llutz> The_ManU_212: no idea
[13:24] <flaccid> i do hope you checked your actual shortcuts in system settings
[13:24] <The_ManU_212> llutz: i thought perhaps this shortcut is set in kcontrol,  but didnt find it
[13:29] <windmartz> gg
[13:30] <flaccid> im off for now
[13:31] <sharpe_uk> still getting a broken warning for virtualbox-ose :|
[13:31] <sharpe_uk> *really doesnt want to have to do it from source*
[13:32] <jussi01> sharpe_uk: whats up with it?
[13:32] <sharpe_uk> looks like a problem with the kernel modules mis-matching the current kernel, iirc this happened with 7.10 till the kernels settled down and they caught up
[13:33] <Sadr> !internet
[13:33] <jussi01> sharpe_uk: sounds about right. you have backports/updates on?
[13:33] <jussi01> Sadr: whats the problem?
[13:33] <sharpe_uk> >jussi, yeah, to be honest I might just do it from source in which case itll just build the kernel modules against what I have installed
[13:34] <jussi01> sharpe_uk: yeah, that would problably the easiest.  - or just keep booting into one of the old kernels
[13:34] <Sadr> @jussi01: I got this stationary that I'm trying to establish a WLAN connection on
[13:35] <jussi01> Sadr: what kind of wlan card?
[13:35] <Sadr> I'm using this Jensen AirLink gadget to connect to the roter
[13:35] <Sadr> ehm, how do I check for the card?
[13:35] <Sadr> can I do that via kubuntu? (still got windows installed as well)
[13:35] <jussi01> Sadr: hrm.. connected to the router you say?
[13:35] <Sadr> I haven't installed kubuntu yet
[13:35] <Sadr> just running from cd
[13:36] <Sadr> ehm, I think so ^^ I hope I'm not misusing the terms here...
[13:36] <jussi01> Sadr: Id say you need to do that via the router
[13:36] <compilerwriter> sadhr an airlink card is going to do you much good with a rotor.
[13:36] <sharpe_uk> >jussi, not really messed around with building debs from source (I came from slackware so Im used to building everything the "normal" way) any gotcha's I need to watch for?
[13:36] <Sadr> ?
[13:36] <Sadr> it's not a card
[13:36] <Sadr> I don't know my card
[13:37] <Sadr> that airlink thingy is one of those USB-pen-like gadgets
[13:38] <sharpe_uk> >Sadr, just leave it plugged in when you install Kubuntu, if its supported out the box Kubuntu till see it and configure it
[13:38] <sharpe_uk> >Sadr, if its not then you can look at using ndiswrapper later (you use windows so you can grab the drivers easily enough)
[13:38] <jussi01> sharpe_uk: nothing that comes to mind right at this second
[13:39] <sharpe_uk> jussi, cool, Im a programmer and pretty comfortable on linux so I should be able to fix anything I break (that is half the fun after all)
[13:39] <Sadr> hm
[13:39] <Sadr> well, I had it plugged in during install, but that didn't seem to help
[13:39] <Sadr> oh wait
[13:40] <Sadr> I didn't install...
[13:40] <Sadr> just running from disc
[13:40] <Sadr> so you're saying, IF i INSTALL, then it might work?
[13:40] <voonte> sharpe_uk: do you have any good documentation on using deb sources?
[13:41] <sharpe_uk> voonte, not actually needed to do it till just now, I found this which looks good http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/20
[13:43] <sharpe_uk> >Sadr, Kubuntu isnt like windows, generally the drivers for hardware it supports come on the CD, so if the hardware is supported it will get installed and configured during install (unless the driver is proprietary only then you have to install and use the restricted driver manager)
[13:43] <sharpe_uk> just install kubuntu and if it doesnt work ask in here :)
[13:43] <Sadr> will do :)
[13:43] <voonte> sharpe_uk: looks good, i'll take a look at it
[13:44] <Sadr> ey, apparently it's possible to resize the partitions using the Ubuntu installer
[13:44] <Sadr> -> I assume the same goes for Kubuntu?
[13:44] <patrick> hi
[13:45] <sharpe_uk> >Sadr, yes
[13:45] <Sadr> cheescake
[13:45] <cris> hello
[13:45] <sharpe_uk> >Sadr, but be *careful* Ive found it makes strange choices on how to resize partitions
[13:45] <Sadr> hm
[13:45] <sharpe_uk> I prefer to have unpartitioned space then manually partition using the manual option
[13:45] <Sadr> how can I be extra *careful*? ^^
[13:46] <psyco> where are the temp files stored from Firefox?
[13:46] <sharpe_uk> for some reason for example if you have a 250Gb with two NTFS partitions that use 125Gb, instead of using the 125Gb of empty space itll try to resize the non-system NTFS partition
[13:46] <sharpe_uk> which is a strange choice, manual is better you get what you want
[13:46] <Sadr> well I'm on this old thingy with 100 gb, 70 gb available
[13:47] <Sadr> as long as I get 10gigs or more I'll be fine :P
[13:47] <munk_> can someone help me please i have 2 major problems, one my computer never shutsdown, when i hit shutdown it looks like its going to shutdown and then the screen stays black but nothing happens, ive even left it for hours to see maybe its doing something but nothing...and second im having problems updating, something with dpkg please please please help me
[13:47] <Sadr> but I'll be going for 30 or smt
[13:48] <sharpe_uk> voonte, that tutorial seems to work just fine :), its building virtualbox-ose now
[13:48] <sharpe_uk> nice, a new trick I didnt know how to do
[13:48] <voonte> sharpe_uk: yeah, indeed. most guides I've found don't cover the actual modification of the source, just the building
[13:49] <sharpe_uk> rebuilding a package and altering the source are two very different things
[13:49] <Cerulean> Hi. Was there an IRC thingy here in #kubuntu about creating plasma applets in Python?
[13:50] <voonte> yeah, i what I needed was to modify the configure options. cmake 2.6 has a nice qt4 gui :)
[13:51] <Sadr> wups, I didn't plug in AirLink until right after I chose my keyboard layout... am  I too late? ^^
[13:51] <sharpe_uk> voonte, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rebuilding-ubuntu-debian-linux-binary-package/ that one covers passing configure options
[13:53] <voonte> sharpe_uk: nice that's even better. thanks for that
[13:53] <sharpe_uk> no problem, I book marked both, rebuilding a package from source isnt something Ive found Ive needed to do often with kubuntu (generally they set stuff up well) but Ive run into cases (with slackware) where stuff was built with good options turned off for licensing reasons
[13:54] <sharpe_uk> freetype mainly
[13:54] <sharpe_uk> so if that ever crops up I can at least get around it which is nice
[13:55] <Sadr>  <Sadr> wups, I didn't plug in AirLink until right after I chose my keyboard layout... am  I too late? ^^
[13:59] <Sadr> please someone answer my question... I won't dare continuing until I know whether it's too late to install the drivers or not yet...
[13:59] <Sadr> though I'd assume none of that has happened yet
[14:00] <sharpe_uk> Sadr, Im afraid I dont know when it does the hardware detection
[14:00] <sharpe_uk> >Sadr, if it was me Id just restart the install (since nothing has been changed yet)
[14:00] <Sadr> yeh, that's what I needed to hear, thanks :)
[14:02] <Sadr> hmmm, odd... cancelled the installation and then it automatically ran Kubuntu from the CD instead. I expected it to to a complete reboot
[14:03] <jussi01> Sadr: the installer is just an app running in the live cd environment
[14:04] <Sadr> yeah I know. I just think the logical action followed by "cancel installation" would be a proper reboot, so that I can go back to choosing between installing and running from cd etc. again
[14:04] <Sadr> rather than going right into running the live cd env again
[14:05] <Sadr> opera should work on Kubuntu right?
[14:06] <jussi01> yes
[14:06] <jussi01> !opera
[14:09] <Sadr> http://blip.tv/file/340692/ seen that one? :D my fav video these days
[14:13] <Rambytes> Hi :)
[14:14] <Rambytes> Sorry for my english, but how to create in my home folder a symbolic link to a samba share computer folder?
[14:14] <Rambytes> I know the LN -S command to do a symbolic link but what syntax to use?
[14:14] <Rambytes> i've try the smb:// but no success
[14:15] <sharpe_uk> mkdir samba_share then lb -s samba_share /path/to/share typically
[14:15] <sharpe_uk> ln -s*
[14:15] <Rambytes> sharpe_uk: i've create a folder in my media forler
[14:16] <Rambytes> ln -s smb://my_computer  /path/to/share will work???
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> Rambytes,  i would be VERY much suprised if that worked.
[14:16] <jussi01> Rambytes: why dont you just mount the share via fstab?
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> smb:// is  only used by the konqueror file manager. and other kde apps.
[14:17] <Rambytes> jussi01: Tell my how!
[14:17] <Dr_Willis> its a 'kio-slave' thing. :)
[14:17] <jussi01> Rambytes: 1 moment
[14:17] <sharpe_uk> would personally be amazed if that worked
[14:18] <Rambytes> jussi01: I have NO user and password to access to my share folder
[14:18] <jussi01> Rambytes: thats fine
[14:19] <Rambytes> jussi01: and do you want the name of my computer, my workgroups, etc...
[14:20] <jussi01> Rambytes: make sure you have samba and smbfs install (sudo aptitude install samba smbfs )
[14:21] <Rambytes> jussi01: ok, done!
[14:23] <jussi01> Rambytes: here is my entry for my samba nas - you need to create the mount folder first though (/mnt/NAS)        //192.168.123.104/Disk /mnt/NAS   smbfs  auto,uid=1000,umask=000,user   0 0
[14:24] <Rambytes> jussi01: what do you mean by "Disk"?
[14:24] <jussi01> Rambytes: thats the folder on the NAS im mounting
[14:24] <Rambytes> jussi01: the folder that I share right?
[14:24] <jussi01> yes
[14:25] <Rambytes> jussi01: Ok.... after, I do a sudo mount -a ?
[14:25] <jussi01> yep
[14:25] <Rambytes> jussi01: ok wait...
[14:28] <snikker> KAudioCreator don't write correctly id3 tag with accented chars, but write correctly in filename. how can i fix this?
[14:28] <Rambytes> jussi01: ok it's like is working, but nothing appear in my home folder
[14:28] <wayneandleanne> can somebody give me an alternative site for libdvdcss?
[14:29] <jussi01> Rambytes: where did you mount it to?
[14:29] <Rambytes> jussi01: the "drive" appear but not in my home folder.... i've mount my share folder in "media"
[14:30] <Rambytes> jussi01: I needto do a LN -S command but what syntax to use?
[14:30] <jussi01> Rambytes: it shouldnt be in you home folder
[14:30] <jussi01> Rambytes: so you have it mounted and it appears in /media/share ?
[14:30] <Rambytes> jussi01: What I mean is (sorry for my english) I see a new DRIVE
[14:30] <Rambytes> but no symbolic link in my home
[14:31] <ubuntu_> when I press Fn+F4/F5 that adjusts the volume! how do i know which process or package does that?
[14:31] <jussi01> Rambytes: what did you substitute for /mnt/NAS in my entry?
[14:31] <Rambytes> jussi01: //192.168.0.100/SERVEUR-Pompage /media/serveur-pompage   smbfs  defauls,uid=1000,umask=000,user   0 0
[14:32] <jussi01> Rambytes: so make a symbolic link from /media/serveur-pompage to wherever in your home folder
[14:33] <Rambytes> jussi01: ok... wait
[14:33] <ken> how do i set a default browser for kde 4?
[14:33] <jussi01> ken: ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[14:33] <ken> ok
[14:34] <Rambytes> jussi01: Can I kiss you? Hahaha...... u are the best man!!!
[14:34] <jussi01> Rambytes: my wife might get jealous :D
[14:34] <Rambytes> jussi01: Hahahahaha........
[14:35] <jussi01> !yay | Rambytes
[14:35] <Rambytes> jussi01: my wife too ;)
[14:35] <KRF> ubuntu_, i guess it's kmilo
[14:35] <Rambytes> last thing (other subjet too)... what is the easy way to make a divx form a VOB file?
[14:36] <KRF> Rambytes, ln -s it
[14:36] <Rambytes> KRF: yep!
[14:36] <llutz> Rambytes: avidemux
[14:36] <Rambytes> llutz: available in adept?
[14:37] <llutz> yes
[14:37] <gianluca> hi at all
[14:37] <gianluca> i'm italian
[14:37] <gianluca> sorry for my inglish
[14:38] <Sadr> hmmm... last time I checked in install was on 90%, about 15 mins ago
[14:38] <Sadr> now the screen is pitch black and nothing seems to be happening :/
[14:39] <Sadr> Kubuntu blackscreened me :(
[14:39] <gianluca> ma siete tutti sfigati qui?
[14:39] <llutz> !it
[14:40] <pjv> anyone here have kmplayer installed? i need to know the parameters in the Recording > ffmpeg tab
[14:40] <pjv> i kinda stuffed mine up
[14:41] <Sadr> hmmm... guess I'll just let it run black for a while longer then come back and turn it off if it's still the same :(
[14:46] <chris|y> hello+
[14:51] <chris|y> hi
[14:51] <chris|y> why can't i see the content of /root in hardy?
[14:52] <flaccid> i don't know, what error do you get chris|y?
[14:52] <flaccid> ie. with ls -l
[14:52] <pjv> anyone here use kmplayer?
[14:52] <chris|y> ls: cannot access *: No such file or directory
[14:52] <chris|y> when i do ls -l *
[14:52] <chris|y> ls -l shows "total: 0"
[14:53] <flaccid> chris|y: ls -lahR /root
[14:53] <flaccid> either nothing in there or you need to show hidden..
[14:54] <chris|y> there is sth in there. i can see it in konqueror
[14:55] <zorglu_> q. i want to get "ulimit -c unlimited" all the time, where should i put it ?
[14:55] <flaccid> chris|y: i guess you could report it as a bug if you are confident it is one...
[14:56] <flaccid> chris|y: you should be looking under root/sudo too i guess
[14:56] <chris|y> cheers
[14:57] <chris|y> there is no /root/sudo
[14:57] <Sadr> wow... I think my screen actually died (it was REALLY old) while installing Kubunt...
[14:57] <flaccid> !root | chris|y
[14:57] <Sadr> I think the installation was finished when I turned it off... hope I didn't screw anything up
[14:59] <christoz> is there any programm like nvidia-setting for me ati?
[14:59] <christoz> cause i cannot have more than 60 hz on 1280x1024 resolution
[15:00] <chris|y> i know about sudo, but why can't i see the content of /root? i can cd into it
[15:00] <chris|y> and its subfolders
[15:00] <flaccid> christoz: amdcccle althought im not sure if thats going to help you change resolutions. look in the xorg log to see the problem
[15:01] <flaccid> chris|y: pastebin sudo ls -lahR /root please
[15:01] <christoz> what can i do more with xorg.conf except from loookin at it :P flaccid?
[15:02] <flaccid> christoz: checking the log is what i suggested i think /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:02] <flaccid> as a quickfix you could run krandrtray and see if you can up the resolution and check xrandr -q to see available resolutions
[15:02] <christoz> flaccid i'm noob with these
[15:03] <christoz> ok
[15:03] <christoz> i'll try
[15:07] <DarkAudit> ahoy hoy
[15:07] <lakis1982> guys
[15:08] <lakis1982> i have kubuntu kde4 and i want to add all those functions for the desktop graphics , aero windows etc
[15:08] <lakis1982> what should i install
[15:08] <DarkAudit> thinking of adding KDE 4 to an Ubuntu install... would it be better to install from the regular repositories, or from -backports?
[15:08] <lakis1982> beryl??   xgl ?? edgy??
[15:08] <blekos> hello, i try to connect to a network folder which has a space " " in its name, but i cant find the correct syntax the name is "My Book"
[15:08] <blekos> could you help
[15:08] <llutz> blekos: My\ Book
[15:09] <DarkAudit> blekos: what he said :) (darn slow typing... need more coffee)
[15:09] <blekos> i write smb://ip_address/My\ Book
[15:09] <flaccid> lakis1982: for the last time help for that is in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:21] <blekos> hello, i try to connect to a network folder which has a space " " in its name, but i cant find the correct syntax the name is "My Book (G)"
[15:21] <blekos> how do i include the "(" in the path?
[15:21] <flaccid> blekos: how are you connecting to it?
[15:22] <llutz> blekos: My\ Book\ \(G\)
[15:22] <blekos> with smb://ip/folders-Name
[15:22] <jussi01> or "My Book (G)"
[15:23] <blekos> i keep getting the error that it doesnt exist...
[15:23] <blekos> but i can see it under samba shares
[15:24] <blekos> smb://ip/"My Book (G)" does not exist
[15:25] <llutz> blekos: replace "ip" with ip-address of your server
[15:25] <flaccid> blekos: smb://... is not a command. what are you using to connect, a program, a command etc. ?
[15:30] <blekos> llutz, the ip is correct. When i try to connect to antother folder (sharedDocs), it opens correctly and i c the contents of it
[15:30]  * flaccid still doesn't know what you are using to connect
[15:30] <flaccid> is this just in an address bar?
[15:31] <blekos> yes... actually i do alt+f2
[15:31] <flaccid> blekos: do it in konqeuror, but instead browse to it
[15:31] <blekos> and type smb://192.168.1.65/SharedDocs
[15:31] <flaccid> so you can see what it should be
[15:32] <blekos> but i do not have the same results with "My Book (G)"
[15:32] <blekos> maybe the easiest way is to change the name?
[15:32] <flaccid> browse it instead
[15:32] <flaccid> blekos: goto smb:/ in konqueror and then browse to it
[15:33] <blekos> hmm i c ur point
[15:33] <flaccid> konqueror/kde does not need to escape the space. for example i just browsed to: smb://flaccid@jager/Shared/My Videos
[15:34] <blekos> konquerod did My%20Book%20(G)/
[15:34] <blekos> aha
[15:34] <blekos> that did the trick
[15:34] <flaccid> yeah thats http encode..
[15:34] <flaccid> doesn't need it with my konq version hmm
[15:35] <flaccid> sorry not http encode, can't remember what its called heh
[15:35] <blekos> when i press enter alla the % etc dissappear and i only see the My Book
[15:35] <blekos> well, i basically try to mount the network drive to my media folder so amarok can see the contents :D
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> Spaces in Share Names = Bad Juju. :)
[15:36] <blekos> dr willis, u r right
[15:36] <blekos> i might change the drive's letter
[15:37] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use the fusesmb stuff  so all apps can see the shares.
[15:38] <blekos> now i get the msg syntax error near unexpected token `('
[15:38] <blekos> fusesmb?
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> !info fusesmb
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> Theres a wiki page on it also. google for ubuntu fusesmb
[15:39] <blekos> i'll do so thnx
[15:39] <Dr_Willis> lets all apps see the Network as if it was a local directory
[15:43] <flaccid> kde handles space in share names fine already but anyway
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> watch out for Upper/Lower Case name differances also..
[15:51] <nuxil> anyone good with licenses? if something is released under gpl. and you look at source code and they are copyrighted to a author. can i then use|modify the code ?
[15:52] <Dr_Willis> i belive you can. but if you 'release' the product/binaries you must release the code changes also.
[15:53] <nuxil> that i know.
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> If you are taking part of the code for your own code. I belive you must also release your stuff under the gpl.
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> I recall a huge Faq on this.. somewhere..
[15:54] <llutz> www.gnu.org -> gpl
[15:54] <nuxil> Dr_Willis, so in general all files must then be in gpl then
[15:55] <zorglu_> $ sudo apt-get install gkrellm
[15:55] <zorglu_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:55] <cara> Hey I have a really dumb question, so don't laugh.. How do you set the time in KDE ?
[15:55] <zorglu_> what is the usual cmd to remove this lock ? :)
[15:55] <cara> I have always used Gnome and I wanted to try something new.
[15:56] <pag> cara, right click on the clock in your panel and choose "Adjust time & date" ?
[15:56] <cara> I did
[15:56] <cara> but it doesn't give me a timezone
[15:56] <zorglu_> cara: main menu -> system setting -> date and time
[15:57] <cara> zorglu_: everything is grayed out
[15:57] <cara> and why does it bring up the gnome stuff?
[15:57] <cara> it almost looks like the gnome-control-panel
[15:58] <zorglu_> cara: oh you did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and not a fresh kubuntu install ?
[15:58] <cara> no
[15:58] <cara> fresh kubuntu install
[15:58] <zorglu_> cara: i dont understand then
[15:59] <cara> wtf?
[15:59] <cara> when I do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop it wants to install a whole bunch of crap
[15:59] <nuxil> its not crap
[15:59] <nuxil> its what it needs
[15:59] <cara> zorglu_: I installed kubuntu using the wubi installer
[15:59] <cara> nuxil: you don't understand, all this should have been installed by default\
[16:00] <nuxil> ic. but its not crap :p
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> nuxil,  i think thats the general gist of  the GPL.
[16:00] <cara> yeah it is :P
[16:00]  * cara doesn't know why she chose to use KDE 
[16:01] <cara> I guess I wanted to try out KDE4
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> Kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that just 'depends' on a large # of pacakges.
[16:01] <zorglu_> cara: what is the color of your desktop ? blue ?
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> best way to test kde4 is with the various kde4 live cd's :)
[16:01] <cara> nope
[16:01] <cara> zorglu_: actually it is
[16:01]  * cara was thinking some other color
[16:01] <zorglu_> ok :) no more time to help
[16:01] <cara> that's cool
[16:02] <cara> I'll just install the kde stuff and hope things work
[16:02] <giovanni> ciao
[16:02] <zorglu_> but if anybody knows anything about known issue with libxml2 getting coredump when statically linked, im a taker :)
[16:02] <cara> otherwise I'll reinstall..
[16:02] <gage> allo
[16:03] <giovanni> I'm new. Where am i?
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> cara,  spoken like a long-time-windows-addict. :)
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> giovanni,  you are in the Kubuntu Support IRC channel.
[16:03] <gage> it's for a help rtl8187l under debian etch
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> !kubuntu
[16:03] <nuxil> i had a hell of a time to remove dolphin. about all files where removed when i unistall it. but i managed to fix it, and now useing konqueror as default fm instead ;)
[16:03] <nuxil> only problem is that.. koqueror wount surf on the net
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> nuxil,  i just set konqueror as the default file manager and leave dolphin alone.
[16:04] <flaccid> why remove?
[16:04] <nuxil> i hade it
[16:04] <nuxil> *hate
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> woop de doo. :)
[16:04] <flaccid> i hate lots of things, but i don't have to remove them :)
[16:05] <flaccid> dolphin becomes core in kde4
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> make your choices and live with them I guess. Heh..
[16:05] <giovanni> ok, I'm sorry. I enter here because I tried Konversation
[16:05] <Calum``> 6.06: Has anyone experienced KDE failing to start after filling up the primary partition?  I cut it back to about 89% full and can still run it with a console login and 'startx', but can't login through the graphical login screen.
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> Ive gotten where i perfer the Rox desktop/file manager.
[16:05] <flaccid> giovanni: no worries
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> giovanni,  yep. its set up to do that.
[16:05] <giovanni> so, bye bye
[16:05] <flaccid> im off for a bit
[16:06] <nuxil> Dr_Willis, Rox.. isnt that a light weight wm ?
[16:06] <nuxil> "window manager"
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> Its a file manager. not desktop
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> puppylinux uses it by default with jwm
[16:07] <nuxil> ah. i must be confusing it with something else
[16:07] <jeroen-> In all applications I use libxine (like Kaffeine) there is sometimes a one line flickr on the bottom of the video screen. Only the native xine-player does this good. I tried delete all config directories, but still the same problem. Does anyone has a solution for this?
[16:08] <Dr_Willis> jeroen-,  ive seen that with some videos  - they are showing a bit  of the  'overscan'  -  i dont rember the fix. :()
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> Ive had some show a line on the top/left side befor
[16:09] <jeroen-> Dr_Willis: yes, but why does it show in Kaffeine and not in the xine player?
[16:09] <llutz> nuxil: theres a rox-desktop as well, rox.sf.net
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> !info rox-desktop
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> Hmm i just installed it.. heh
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> rox-filer - A simple graphical file manager for X11
[16:10] <nuxil> llutz, heh i knew i had rox from somewhere,, :)
[16:10] <Dr_Willis> the fileer can handle the 'desktop' icons  and stuff also. they call it the pinboard
[16:12] <nuxil> jeroen-,  installed kde-restricetd-extra ?
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> Rox has some very neat features - once you dig into the docs. :)
[16:14] <nuxil> oh jesus. how can you use rox-filer. i just installed  it and it look horrible
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> it does? never noticed.
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> it shows incons in a window.. what more do you expect? a sidebar taking up 1/2 the screen?
[16:17] <jeroen-> nuxil: yes off cource
[16:17] <nuxil> well. it will probealy work for someone. not for me..
[16:18] <nuxil> jeroen-, does it happen in mplayer also ?
[16:18] <jeroen-> nuxil: no
[16:18] <nuxil> then its probealy a bug.
[16:19] <jeroen-> yes proberly
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> I recall some discussion of the one line 'bug' in some of the Mythbuntu forums. They explained what/how/why it  happends.
[16:19] <jeroen-> but maybe there was a xine-setting I could use to avoid it
[16:20] <jeroen-> Dr_Willis: ok I take a look in the forums over there
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> I belive there was some command/setting that moved the video over 1 pixle or so to hide it.
[16:20] <Dr_Willis> or you adjust your monitor. :)
[16:20] <jeroen-> Dr_Willis: yes that would be great
[16:20] <nuxil> paning
[16:24] <andybleaden> Hi any here had problems with using special function keys since upgrading to hardy heron.. Used to be able to use the ones for mediavolume etc etc mute but not any more??
[16:24] <michael__> hey does anyone know how to get the cashew in my panel in kde4?
[16:25] <nuxil> jeroen-, have you tried vlc ?
[16:25] <andybleaden> nope still on kde 3.5.9
[16:25] <andybleaden> not brave enough to go to 4
[16:25] <andybleaden> is it lots better
[16:25] <nuxil> no
[16:25] <michael__> it looks better
[16:25] <jeroen-> nuxil: yes, but I use SMPlayer now
[16:25] <SSJ_GZ> michael__: If you have a recent enough build, it should be there by default.
[16:25] <nuxil> michael__, look aint all
[16:26] <andybleaden> michael__: ah looks better but problems?
[16:26] <michael__> not major problems but theres sum
[16:27] <andybleaden> I only did the move to Hardy heron...thought that was enough for now...is it worth the upgrade yet?
[16:27] <cara> Dr_Willis: lol acutally I only use windows at work.  I have not really used windows as a home OS since 2002
[16:28] <cara> I figured since sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop returned a buttload of packages something didn't get installed
[16:28] <michael__> i should have started with the regular kde, the trasnition to gonme  to kde4 is kinda rough..and im mad because it looks like i dont have the latest build
[16:28] <andybleaden> i have to use windows at work...but been on kubunut at home now since dapper drake
[16:28] <andybleaden> michael__: ah I see must have been a hell of a difference
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> cara,  thats sort of how it works. :)  I installed xubuntu here, then i isntall kubuntu-desktop. so i have both xubunti and kubuntu now.
[16:28] <andybleaden> michael__: never used just the gnome stuff
[16:29] <screenname923874> hello folks
[16:29] <cara> Dr_Willis: but I supposedly install kubuntu
[16:29] <screenname923874> I just installed hardy kubuntu
[16:29] <cara> *installed
[16:29] <screenname923874> I think It's terrible
[16:29] <andybleaden> do you?
[16:29] <michael__> yah its nice...but kde 4 is obviously getting ahead
[16:29] <nuxil> screenname923874, why?
[16:29] <screenname923874> It is SO annoying and does so many stupid things
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> if you install 'kubuntu-desktop' it should grab a large # of packages. Of course if you installed 'kubuntu' from the kubuntu cd..it should of had them all. it COULD be it was updating the existing packages.
[16:30] <michael__> stupid or diffrent?
[16:30] <cara> that's what I instructed wubi to do... I'm trying to cross my husband over to Linux ... which will probably be easy since he really doesn't know how to use windows
[16:30] <nuxil> screenname923874,  oh ? what stupid things does it do ?
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> screenname923874,  then go use somthing else.
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> Linux is about using what tools you want :)
[16:30] <screenname923874> for one when I restart my pc it starts all the applications I had open when I shutdown
[16:30] <screenname923874> how do you switch that off?
[16:30] <nuxil> so close them before you restart
[16:30] <Dr_Willis> screenname923874,  thats a setting, and a feature.  its the 'sessions'
[16:31] <Dr_Willis> !session
[16:31] <screenname923874> it happens automatically
[16:31] <screenname923874> without me saving a session
[16:31] <andybleaden> screenname923874: it is worth persevering
[16:32] <screenname923874> haha I hope so
[16:32] <screenname923874> I thought the grand philosophy of gnu was that you could change it
[16:32] <screenname923874> like I can really change this!
[16:32] <andybleaden> i have pulled my hair out a few times in the last few years but iused to with windows
[16:32] <jussi01> screenname923874: system settings - advanced - session manager
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> You can disable the session management.. yes...  of course it pays to learn the tools..
[16:32] <andybleaden> screenname923874: it is very easy to change things
[16:33] <michael__> can i just upgrade to get the latest build on kde4?
[16:33] <nuxil> or just close all apps before you log out.
[16:33] <nuxil> i kinda like it when it remembers the apps i had running
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> michael__,  thers a repo for the kde4 updates. You may want to check the kde4 ubuntu channel
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> !kde4
[16:34] <michael__> beautiful
[16:35] <andybleaden> Dr_Willis: is upgrading to kde4 as much hassle as going from gutsy to hardy or less?
[16:36] <screenname923874> how do you deactivate that f***** annoying bouncy mouse icon?
[16:36] <andybleaden> I am on kde 3.5.9
[16:37] <nuxil> screenname923874, what?
[16:37] <pag> screenname923874, appearance -> launch feedback  ?
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> andybleaden,  i dont care for kde4. If you want to test it - i suggest tracking down a kde4 live cd.
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> kde4 is still a work in progress.
[16:37] <Elite101> hello
[16:37] <michael__> its not very bad tho
[16:37] <Elite101> Dr Willis your stil here?
[16:37] <Elite101> wow :D
[16:37] <Elite101> and pag
[16:38] <andybleaden> Dr_Willis: perhaps it is worth waiting
[16:38] <Elite101> i thought id never see you guys again :D
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> Elite101,  why wouldent i be?
[16:38] <Elite101> lol i dont know...
[16:38] <michael__> kde4 is pretty much leading the way...im a beryl /gnome fan and i had to go witht he flow
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> andybleaden,  i plan on waiting a long time.
[16:38] <andybleaden> Dr_Willis: lol
[16:38] <Elite101> i havent been here in like 1year :D i was in my windoze world :(
[16:38] <andybleaden> sounds real bad
[16:38] <Dr_Willis> lately ive been using 'jwm' + 'rox'
[16:38] <nuxil> Dr_Willis heh same here :)
[16:38] <nuxil> about the kde4
[16:39] <Elite101> well im off to do some updates i just made a fresh install lastnight see you guys later ;)
[16:39] <Elite101> bye
[16:39] <andybleaden> sounds like more work than I need right now...just got this heron working just abou how i want  (spoke to soon I bet) :)
[16:40] <screenname923874> pag: what's that?
[16:40] <michael__> now that im looking at adept im really tempted to update/ install everything i see...
[16:41] <pag> screenname923874, directions to corresponding settings in kcontrol  (I assume they're pretty much identical in systemsettings)
[16:41] <screenname923874> can't find it.,..
[16:41] <chalcedony> i upgraded to Hardy, my xsane (image scanner) is all different. WHERE can i get help?
[16:41] <pag> screenname923874, try kcontrol ( press alt+f2 and type kcontrol )
[16:42] <screenname923874> pag: good man
[16:42] <nuxil> does anyone know if theres a deb pak for kickoff ? i like that startmenu better..
[16:43] <jussi01> !info kickoff
[16:43] <michael__> omfg
[16:43]  * jussi01 thought there was
[16:43] <michael__> euro cup finals!!!!
[16:43] <Dr_Willis> Is that the one that Mandriva uses?
[16:43] <michael__> well not finals
[16:43] <nuxil> suse uses it
[16:43] <michael__> but there playing
[16:43] <michael__> goodbye every1 im late
[16:43] <pag> nuxil, there was one in kdeapps, but iirc it was pretty much "*use at your own responsebility*"
[16:44] <Dr_Willis> nuxil,  that may be where i saw it.. and quickly set it to use a more normal kde menu.. :)
[16:44] <nuxil> pag, thats no problem.. i used it before without any problem
[16:45] <screenname923874> it seems you can't access all the facilities of kcontrol under system settings which is rubbish
[16:46] <nuxil> pff
[16:46] <nuxil> kdesu kcontrol
[16:46] <llutz> screenname923874: if all that is annoying rubbish, go boot into os-of-your-choice and be happy
[16:47] <michael__> lol ppl complain so much
[16:47] <screenname923874> llutz: love it do you?
[16:48] <nuxil> michael__, heh agree :) most ppl say . i installed kubuntu, and i dont like it :p
[16:48] <screenname923874> next thing is that under system settings it says that my cd drive is disabled
[16:48] <screenname923874> ???
[16:48] <screenname923874> whY/
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> 'most people' tend to want exactly what they used to have.. and dont even try to learn anything better.
[16:48] <Dr_Willis> 'most people' perfer to rant and complain then learn also. :)
[16:49] <nuxil> true
[16:49] <screenname923874> Dr_Willis: yes tell that to llutz.
[16:49] <pag> Dr_Willis, well tbh I wouldn't call systemsettings 'anything better' (under kde3.x at least – haven't tried kde 4 yet) ;)
[16:49] <Dr_Willis> screenname923874,  use what you want.. or not..   thats the linux way.
[16:50] <Dr_Willis>  The whole 'how to have all settings in a convient place' is a very interesting problem. :)
[16:50] <screenname923874> not if it's living up to the gnu principle, it isn't.
[16:50] <nuxil> ehh.
[16:50] <Dr_Willis> screenname923874,  that statement made no sence to most of us i imagine.
[16:50] <screenname923874> ok I'll justify it.
[16:51] <Dr_Willis> I imagine this will be shunted to #offtopic soon.
[16:54] <screenname923874> from the gnu manifesto:
[16:55] <screenname923874> once gnu is written, everyone will be able to obtain good system software free.
[16:55] <screenname923874> they use the word good.
[16:55] <nuxil> so your point is?
[16:56] <nuxil> gnu "gpl" is not os spesific
[16:56] <jparishy> Hey, I use a nVidia GF 8800GT and I so how messed up my drivers. Does anyone else have the same setup and know which drivers they are using?
[16:56] <screenname923874> my point is that kubuntu is bad
[16:56] <jparishy> No it isn't
[16:56] <nuxil> screenname923874, thats a mater of opinion
[16:56] <screenname923874> and Richard Stallman's manifesto was to create good software.
[16:56] <nuxil> screenname923874, you know that linux is just the kernel right? everything else is just apps compiled to running in this os.
[16:57] <screenname923874> who actuallly decides what goes into kubuntu-desktop?
[16:57] <screenname923874> ie who controls the repositories?
[16:58] <nuxil> there is a dev team
[16:58] <screenname923874> ok so we don't really know...
[16:58] <nuxil> sure we do.
[16:58] <nuxil> go to dig in the website
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> I would check the Kubuntu web site. and developer forums.
[16:59] <Dr_Willis> !motu
[16:59] <screenname923874> Anyway, back to my new install
[16:59] <screenname923874> what services are running on my pc that are potential
[16:59] <screenname923874> security risks?
[17:00] <screenname923874> like what do I need to disable?
[17:00] <screenname923874> thinking of telnet daemons and so forth
[17:00] <llutz> check it out, netstat, lsof, ps will help
[17:00] <screenname923874> not if I don't know what I'm looking for.
[17:01] <nuxil> then you should go read about security in linux on some websites.
[17:01] <llutz> screenname923874: but we should know what you see as a potential sec-risk? lol
[17:02] <nuxil> screenname923874,  but by default you are verry secure
[17:02] <screenname923874> give me some candidates and I'll tell you what I think
[17:03] <nuxil> what you mean
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu tends to not run any services by default.
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> other then cups.. i cant think of any..
[17:03] <screenname923874> good for ubuntu that's very wise.
[17:03] <Dr_Willis> no ssh by default, no samba by default. ect...
[17:04] <screenname923874> Default settings are very important because some people do reinstalls quite a lot
[17:05] <screenname923874> does anyone know of a set of utilities I can run to test the speed of my new pc?
[17:05] <screenname923874> and compare to my old one?
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> !find benchmark
[17:05] <screenname923874> oooh jolly good.
[17:05] <screenname923874> thanks for the advice.
[17:05] <Dr_Willis> I saw some news on a new linux benchmark  site/suite the other day.. but i dont think its released yet
[17:05] <llutz> try phoronix benchmark
[17:06] <screenname923874> I've got to go and fix my wifi card now.
[17:06] <screenname923874> have a nice day, wherever you are.
[17:06] <frojnd> I'm seeking for hardware support list ?
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> frojnd,  theres a list.. but i forget the url.. the bot has a factoid on it.. :) which i forget also...
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> But a List DOES exist! :)
[17:07] <Dr_Willis> !hardware
[17:08] <llutz> benchmark-suite was released 5. jun , www.phoronix-test-suite.com, ubuntu-debs available
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> llutz,  cool beans. :)
[17:08] <Dr_Willis> that sounds like the one.
[17:08] <llutz> whoever needs that stuff :)
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> Review Sites.
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:09] <nuxil> frojnd, you can also check out this site http://www.linux-drivers.org/
[17:09] <Dr_Willis> be cool to have on a live cd. to take to the store to test out the new machines.
[17:09] <llutz> ok, for those speed-enthusiasts
[17:11] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. getting all sorts of un installable dependencies.. bummer.
[17:15] <frojnd> thanx, now the main problem is to get such an old equipment :S
[17:23] <codster> hey is there a Mac OSX theme for Kubuntu?
[17:23] <codster> im not sure on where to go on getting themes?
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> codster,  theres dozens of not 100's of them..
[17:23] <codster> lol
[17:23] <codster> wel im elite101
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> some for kde, many for Compiz/emerald
[17:24] <codster> ohh i see
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> and they all have one thing in common.. they suck. :)
[17:24] <codster> well looks like ill get Compiz
[17:24] <codster> i just wanted a little twist on the theme, like Mac OSX :D
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> install compiz and use emerald. and you can get some  easially. :)
[17:24] <codster> okay
[17:24] <codster> what is emerald?
[17:24] <codster> just a program on getting skins/themes?
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> a window-decorator for Compiz (one of the 3 you can use)
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> !compiz
[17:24] <codster> okay
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> that factoid details it.
[17:24] <codster> like beryl?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> No., its a WINDOW Decorator.. :) not the window manager
[17:25] <emilsedgh> baghira codster
[17:25] <codster> okay
[17:25] <emilsedgh> baghira.sf.net
[17:25] <codster> thanks for the info
[17:25] <codster> :D
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> compiz can use  any of the 3 window-decorators mentioned
[17:25] <emilsedgh> install kde-style-baghira
[17:25] <Dr_Willis>  baghira is a ok theme also. :)
[17:25] <codster> what is that?
[17:25] <codster> Mac OSX?
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> Its one of 1000's of osx clone themes .:)
[17:25] <codster> okay
[17:25] <codster> thanks'
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> check kde-look.org, and the package manager for extra themes.
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> many of the ones from kde-look.org are allready in the repos just not installed by default.
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> I liked Baghira widget look. but hated the window decorations. :)
[17:27] <codster> lol
[17:27] <codster> well i was going to later on, run windows XP with Qemu? is that free or not?
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> but thats whats cool about linux/kde/themes - you can pick and chose the parts.
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> qemu is free. you may want touse virtualbox, or vmware however.
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> !info qemu
[17:28] <codster> ohh i see,
[17:28] <codster> well does it work just the same as VMWARE? i hear you have to pay for things like that
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> !vbox
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> its not the same.
[17:28] <codster> ohh
[17:29] <codster> what would be your recomendation?
[17:29] <llutz> XP runs fine in vbox (not ose)
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> I use vmware mainly,  but virtualbox has gotten better lately... but the new vmware - has some neat features.. but is still beta...
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> so use what you want. :)
[17:29] <Leafw> hi all. Is there any archive apt-get repository for edgy?
[17:30] <codster> okay thanks
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> I use the free vmware to run XP. Not tried it under virtualbox.
[17:30] <Leafw> I need the xvfb on a server that has not been upgraded for ages.
[17:30] <Leafw> any info appreciated.
[17:31] <codster> Thats what i wanna run is XP for some task's
[17:32] <codster> but i was wondering on System would be suitable to run Vmware?
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> Huh?
[17:32] <codster> i have a 2.88Ghz P4 with 1Gb of DDR2 800Mhz ram,
[17:32] <codster> like minimum hardware...
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> More ram would be better..
[17:32] <codster> okay
[17:32] <codster> 1gb be okay?
[17:32] <codster> i hear it was atleast 2Gb
[17:32] <Dr_Willis> but that should be able to handle it  -  may be sluggish
[17:32] <codster> or so
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> more ram is always better. :)
[17:33] <codster> yeah
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> You may want to use Windows98 if you can.
[17:33] <codster> well their 2 sticks of 512mb so i might just get 2 sticks of 1Gb and dual channel them
[17:33] <codster> :D
[17:33] <codster> lol
[17:34] <codster> reason i ask that question is because i was very intrested in Consoles running Linux
[17:34] <codster> and i wanted to get more hands on with it
[17:34] <codster> because the Xbox can run Windows XP with only 64Mb of ram with a Celeron Mobile 733Mhz
[17:34] <codster> it is VERY slow 10min bootup
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> xbox = good linux  network client. :)
[17:35] <codster> I just wished they improved on the PSP uClinux, its such a great handheld but the drivers
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> I got a GP32x - it runs Linux natively. :)
[17:36] <codster> they have the 2.6 Kernel running just no GUI
[17:36] <codster> yeah
[17:36] <codster> well PSP's now have 64Megs of Ram a 333Mhz CPU and alot of functions
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> i think thats its name. its in the basement. :)
[17:36] <codster> lol
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> i just use it to watch videos.. and run the C64 emulator for games
[17:37] <codster> yeah
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> gave my psp to my brother for it. :)
[17:37] <codster> well the only console i have thats modded is Xbox
[17:37] <codster> its running Python and stuff
[17:37] <codster> threw XBMC,
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> He also gave me 2 xbox's (un modded) - I dont need more pc's heh heh
[17:37] <codster> :D
[17:37] <codster> lol
[17:37] <codster> What did u use your Xbox for?
[17:38] <codster> linux network?
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> I just use it to play xbox games.
[17:38] <codster> ohh,
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> they are $5 a pop now at the used game stores
[17:38] <codster> i hear people make Clusters
[17:38] <codster> yeah
[17:38] <codster> ive seen a 12Node cluster of Xbox's
[17:38] <codster> but they run websites
[17:38] <Dr_Willis> 12node/cluster/room heater.
[17:39] <codster> yeah
[17:39] <codster> they do get pretty warm
[17:39] <Dr_Willis> well its bed time for me. Night all
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[17:42] <sharpe_uk> the 360 is annoyingly good
[17:44] <sharpe_uk> use it for streaming divx stuff of my main PC, its upscaling of those and playback is excellent
[17:44] <giovanni> Hi to everybody
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> giovanni: werd up
[17:48] <nuxil> hmm.. every time i run adept-updater it wants to install all the kde languages packs..
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> nuxil: i think it senses what you have installed and only installs what it needs
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> nuxil: they dont take much space, unless you are concerned about bloat
[17:50] <nuxil> ActionParsnip, it makes no sence. why would i have arabic on my pc ? english is good enough.
[17:51] <nuxil> ActionParsnip, i only have english and norwegian languages installed
[17:51] <nuxil> so its kida weird it wants to install all the other languages
[17:53] <nuxil> i got like 166 packs upgradeble 100 of them are languages :(
[17:53] <codster> Well i have Emerald Installed where do i get other themes? so i can import them, particularly MAC OSX theme
[17:53] <codster> there must be a link?
[17:53] <codster> kde-look.org?
[18:03] <screenname923874> hi folks can anyone tell me where to find modprobe.conf?
[18:04] <screenname923874> or its equivalent?
[18:04] <llutz>  /etc/modprobe.d/
[18:04] <screenname923874> it doesn't seem to be there
[18:05] <screenname923874> do I have to create it?
[18:05] <llutz> then your installation seems to be broken
[18:06] <screenname923874> it operates tho.
[18:06] <screenname923874> if I do modprobe -c I get
[18:06] <screenname923874> a long list of things
[18:07] <sinak> hello. Is there anyone using zoneminder?
[18:07] <nuxil> llutz, no. there is no modprobe.conf
[18:07] <nuxil> screenname923874, why you need modprobe.conf ?
[18:07] <llutz> nuxil: sure it isn't
[18:08] <crimsun> you shouldn't use modprobe.conf
[18:08] <crimsun> if need be, create /etc/modprobe.d/foo
[18:08] <nuxil> well.. i dont got it, and my install in not broken
[18:08] <llutz> nuxil:  /etc/modprobe.d/ now contains files instead doing that job
[18:08] <screenname923874> so how do I get a module loaded by default?
[18:08] <nuxil> yes. you can also put in /etc/module
[18:09] <crimsun> put it into /etc/modules
[18:09] <nuxil> +s
[18:09] <screenname923874> ok thanks
[18:10] <olimpico> How can I configure glx with nvidia and 1920x1200 resolution
[18:10] <olimpico> ???
[18:10] <olimpico> THe nvidia driver seem not to support this resolution
[18:10] <olimpico> And without the nvidia driver I cant have glx???
[18:10] <nuxil> are you using the nv or nvidia driver ?
[18:11] <olimpico> I was using the nvidia driver,
[18:11] <olimpico> but i couldn't configure the 1920x1200 resolution
[18:11] <nuxil> hmm did you manualy change the xorg file ?
[18:12] <olimpico> Then I just ran dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg  and the resolution works, but no nvidia driver
[18:12] <llutz> olimpico: have you tried nvidia-settings?
[18:12] <olimpico> Everything was working with nvidia +glx under a normal monitor, but then I bought a bigger one
[18:13] <olimpico> llutz: can you tell me what to so?
[18:13] <olimpico> do?
[18:13] <froztbyte> Hi. I've found a problem with the System Settings dialogue. Resolution changes I make aren't getting applied. nVidia card, official nVidia drivers. Anyone know what I should do to fix it?
[18:13] <llutz> olimpico: press alt-f2 and enter: nvidia-settings
[18:13] <zorglu_> ¹
[18:13] <nuxil> froztbyte, run with kdesu
[18:13] <zorglu_> <
[18:13] <zorglu_> err
[18:13] <llutz> olimpico: try to configure your resolution within and write a new xorg.conf
[18:14] <zorglu_> !info libxml2 feisty
[18:15] <froztbyte> nuxil: that's not the problem. I have it running with privileges to change the config file
[18:15] <nuxil> so you have root premission when you run systemsettings ?
[18:16] <Jessica_lilly> i have this DVD which i am trying to copy and it has protrction on it to stop it being copyed how can i get around this
[18:16] <Jessica_lilly> is there any software that will be able to bypass the ecryption on the DVD
[18:16] <froztbyte> nuxil: my set resolution was 1440x900, and then suddenly after a logout/login sequence it is stuck at 1280x800, refusing to go higher. What it seems like is that something lost the xorg modeline, because from what I gather it is xorg which thinks the monitor cannot go higher
[18:18] <nuxil> hmm.. what hz is it set to in systemsettings .. try set the hz a bit down
[18:18] <vbgunz> anybody use akgregator? anyone know how to remove duplicates? reddit is getting ridiculous :/
[18:20] <vbgunz> christ almighty, I have more than a dozen stories that repeat themselves at least a dozen times... this is crazy
[18:20] <froztbyte> nuxil: I'll try quickly, though I do wonder why that would be an issue. the login screen is at 1440x900, but just kde desktop going 1280x800. trying now
[18:20] <froztbyte> vbgunz: please watch your language, as you might offend some people
[18:21] <nuxil> froztbyte, higher the res.. the lower the hz must be.. "usaly"  exept is you got a verry expensive monitor which does same refreshrate in all resolutions
[18:21] <froztbyte> nuxil: hmmm......a forced kill of X after I have it running from the backup config and then change res + refresh fix it, though it doesn't autoswitch during selection..pretty odd
[18:22] <drurew> sup guys ... the switch to kde4 went pretty smooth ..cant complain ....now ive got these double instances of applications ...kde3 and kde 4 ....is there a list of "purge" for the od kde3 system ?
[18:23] <drurew> maybe its just me ..but somehow the kde3 apps arnt acting nicly with the kde4 system
[18:23] <MetaMorfoziS> !top
[18:23] <MetaMorfoziS> !tor
[18:23] <drurew> certain files show as "?" or other things like the environment settings still apply to kde3
[18:24] <MetaMorfoziS> !tor-gpg
[18:25] <xamuska> alguien habla espanol?
[18:25] <nuxil> !es'
[18:25] <nuxil> !es
[18:25] <xamuska> vale
[18:28] <drurew> !kde4
[18:28] <drurew> !kde3
[18:29] <froztbyte> nuxil: thanks for the help. if I get it replicated, I'll submit a bug report
[18:29] <nuxil> that was not a bug
[18:30] <nuxil> hes monitor was set to a too high refreshrate ..
[18:33] <athlon1> Hallo. I use Amarok for mp3 and k3b for recording. How can I convert mp3 files in a audio CD? I possible to convert them directly?
[18:33] <codster> Hello, I have Emerald and Compiz, and when i select a theme in Emerald there is no Install option?
[18:33] <codster> how do i install the themese emerald shows?
[18:33] <codster> theme's*
[18:34] <nuxil> athlon1, k3b does that
[18:34] <nuxil> erm athlon1 you mean cd to mp3 or vice versa
[18:34] <athlon1> It says not.
[18:34] <athlon1> I want to convert mp3 to audo cd
[18:35] <nuxil> yes k3b can do that.. you most likely are missing some k3b stuff
[18:35] <_aib> how can I tell the version of kubuntu i have installed from the command line?
[18:36] <athlon1> It says "problem appendig file..." You can covert this files to audio .wav using another application al later append then to k3b..."
[18:37] <nuxil> athlon1, go to, make new audio cd. drag and drop your mp3 files to lowest window
[18:37] <athlon1> _aib: cat /etc/issue
[18:37] <nuxil> athlon1, install libk3b2-extracodecs
[18:38] <athlon1> ok, i try now....
[18:40] <BennyZen> athlon1 maybe you need to install the package kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:41] <athlon1> You are big. No it works!!! Thanks
[18:41] <nuxil> what was missing ?
[18:41] <nuxil> kde extras or libk3b ?
[18:45] <athlon1> i've installed  libk3b2-extracodecs. But before i tried with others...
[18:46] <BennyZen> as far as i know, mp3-support as such comes with kubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:46] <eagles0513875> BennyZen: u need lame
[18:46] <eagles0513875> !lame
[18:46] <nuxil> BennyZen, yes.. but k3b needs some libs to convert to wav
[18:46] <nuxil> thats lame
[18:46] <nuxil> :p
[18:47] <eagles0513875> !info | lame BennyZen athlon1
[18:47] <eagles0513875> !info lame | lame BennyZen athlon1
[18:47] <nuxil> eagles0513875, you dont need lame
[18:47] <eagles0513875> i have been able to burn mp3 cds using k3b perfectly fine outa the box
[18:48] <MachinTrucChose> Hi
[18:48] <BennyZen> lame is just for encoding mp3s
[18:48] <MachinTrucChose> How can I tell what hardware (particularly video card) I have? I tried the "Info Center" but it does not mention the videocard. Is there something else?
[18:48] <nuxil> lame aint an mp3 encode :OP
[18:49] <athlon1> Try with lspci and lsusb
[18:49] <joey``> what's the difference between a primary partition and an extended partition?
[18:49] <MachinTrucChose> athlon: it's a PCI-Express card
[18:49] <eagles0513875> MachinTrucChose: lspci
[18:49] <nuxil> MachinTrucChose,  lspci | grep VGA
[18:50] <eagles0513875> MachinTrucChose:  somewhere in that list should be what you are looking for
[18:50] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[18:50] <MachinTrucChose> wow, you were right
[18:50] <MachinTrucChose> of course, PCI-express is still PCI
[18:50] <MachinTrucChose> FYI...I just installed Windows XP (for gaming purposes) + Service Pack 2, and out of the box, my Nvidia videocard is not recognized, and neither is my PCI wireless card. Both of them worked in Ubuntu.
[18:50] <MachinTrucChose> (Kubuntu)
[18:51] <joey``> did you install the drivers
[18:51] <MachinTrucChose> so I guess compatibility isn't so bad :)
[18:51] <MachinTrucChose> joey: nope, I'm talking about out-of-the-box hardware support.
[18:51] <joey``> oh
[18:52] <joey``> is partioning and formatting the same thing?
[18:52] <MachinTrucChose> Linux/Kubuntu is doing pretty good if I could get everything to work without drivers. And now I have to go get Nvidia drivers for my windows box (from my Kubuntu, because WinXP can't use my wireless card without drivers)
[18:52] <nuxil> joey``, what kind of Q is that
[18:52] <MachinTrucChose> joey: nope, partitioning is "splitting" a hard drive, formatting is erasing its contents
[18:52] <nuxil> offcource its not
[18:52] <joey``> nuxil: a dumb question
[18:52] <joey``> i knew that before i asked :)
[18:52] <nuxil> :P
[18:53] <joey``> just trying to fix my external drive and get rid of kubuntu on my second hard drive :P
[18:53] <eagles0513875> joey``: why you getting rid of it
[18:53] <nuxil> thats a pize of cake
[18:53] <joey``> because i have 2 copies
[18:54] <joey``> because i'm an idiot :D
[18:54] <eagles0513875> joey``: lol ok thought u had enough of kubuntu and were goign to try something else
[18:54] <joey``> no
[18:54] <joey``> i put kubuntu on 2nd hard drive so i could keep vista on 1st
[18:54] <eagles0513875> ol
[18:54] <joey``> but then i got rid of vista
[18:54] <joey``> and reinstalled kubuntu on 1st hard drive
[18:54] <joey``> but didn't take it off my 2nd
[18:54] <MachinTrucChose> OK, one more question..."lspci" shows my wireless card, but under the "Atheros" name. It's a D-Link something-or-other, and I need the name to get the Windows driver. Is it possible to find its true name without opening the computer case?
[18:54] <eagles0513875> joey``: DOWN WITH VISTA but i have to say the 64bit version of ultimate is bitter sweet
[18:55] <joey``> i have vista 32 on my other desktop
[18:55] <joey``> havent had any major issues with it
[18:55] <eagles0513875> joey``: had to get rid of my hp oem install it was bugged like no other
[18:55] <joey``> but bought a refurbed pc to put linux on
[18:55] <nuxil> vista is spying on you :\
[18:55] <eagles0513875> MachinTrucChose: check under system then hardware device manager and see if it shows up in there and enable it if it says not in use then reboot and it will work
[18:56] <eagles0513875> nuxil: hp put so much crud on it
[18:56] <eagles0513875> nuxil: 64bit version of vista ultimate oem version of it 200 bucks no issue
[18:56] <eagles0513875> s
[18:57] <nuxil> eagles0513875, i rather use thouse 200 bucks on bear and stick to kubuntu
[18:57] <nuxil> :p
[18:57] <joey``> nuxil: i have a problem formatting
[18:57] <eagles0513875> nuxil: i need windws for my games
[18:57] <joey``> lemme pull up the error message
[18:57] <eagles0513875> if i had my desktop machine i would be playing games on that using kubuntu
[18:57] <eagles0513875> these laptops with wine are not able to play the games i want on both of mine
[18:57] <joey``> darn it my copy didnt work
[18:58] <joey``> nuxil: http://paste.ubuntu.com/20184/
[18:59] <ubuntu_> hi. i'm playing with kubuntu and I am trying to print something... all it gives me is a generic printer. Is there a way I can get mine to work with kubuntu? I have a canon mp 130
[18:59] <nuxil> joey``,  ls -la /dev/sd*
[18:59] <nuxil> does sdb list up
[19:00] <joey``> no
[19:00] <joey``> yes
[19:00] <joey``> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16 2008-06-14 13:56 /dev/sdb
[19:00] <nuxil> but no 1
[19:01] <nuxil> joey``, get your hands dirty and use fdisk
[19:01] <joey``> let me reboot first since thats what it says in error message
[19:01] <nuxil> then create a partition on the disk. so you get /dev/sdb1
[19:01] <nuxil> no need
[19:02] <nuxil> for reboot
[19:02] <nuxil> then mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1
[19:02] <nuxil> with sudo
[19:02] <eagles0513875> for the love of god is there any djing/ mixing software available in the repos
[19:02] <Rioting_pacifist> how l do i install moonlight? do i need to compile from svn with gtk dependancies or should i just compile the non-gtk dependancies
[19:02] <eagles0513875> nuxil: im doing linux cert and i have gotten my hands dirty with fdisk at times i get myself confused
[19:02] <eagles0513875> !moonlight
[19:02] <eagles0513875> !info moonlight
[19:03] <nuxil> eagles0513875, confused with fdisk ?
[19:03] <nuxil> how is that possible
[19:03] <eagles0513875> nuxil: lol not much any more i was when i was trying to get kubuntu onto my 4gb pendrive
[19:03] <Rioting_pacifist> eagles0513875: yes theres a couple of programs but im not sure which are good
[19:03] <eagles0513875> Rioting_pacifist: im willing to try em all
[19:04] <eagles0513875> Rioting_pacifist: i know about jack and jackd audio server there is alot of software for that but then i would have to change the amarok back end for that from xine to jack
[19:04] <eagles0513875> nuxil: im a linux fanatic though kubuntu in particular
[19:04] <nuxil> eagles0513875, same here..
[19:04] <eagles0513875> nuxil: have you had any experience with spamassassin
[19:04] <genii> !lmms
[19:04] <genii> Hmm
[19:04] <genii> !info lmms
[19:05] <eagles0513875> genii: think the bots borked
[19:05] <nuxil> eagles0513875, nop
[19:05] <eagles0513875> !lame
[19:05] <Rioting_pacifist> jack doesnt replace xine it replaces alsa
[19:05] <eagles0513875> Rioting_pacifist: got it
[19:05] <nuxil> eagles0513875, what are you using it with ? postfix ?
[19:05] <eagles0513875> nuxil: my isp ovr where i am right now doesnt provide spam filtering for their emails
[19:06] <eagles0513875> nuxil:  im thinking of setting up some servers to filter emails then probably use postfix or something like send mail to fwd the emails to the proper addresses
[19:06] <eagles0513875> right now i havent even gotten the go ahead
[19:07] <nuxil> postfix is pretty much strait forward to setup.. it even easyer if you use webmin to configure it with
[19:07] <nuxil> @ eagles0513875
[19:07] <eagles0513875> nuxil: i heard ebox is better to use the webmin
[19:08] <eagles0513875> nuxil: if i am doing my cert i would rather get used to the cli
[19:08] <eagles0513875> commands im pretty decent with em but would like more experience
[19:08] <nuxil> well. ebox is purly dedicated to jobs like that.
[19:08] <eagles0513875> nuxil: i have messed around with ebox
[19:08] <nuxil> but i like webmin.
[19:09] <nuxil> we all have our fav tools ;)
[19:09] <eagles0513875> nuxil: if worse comes to worse i can ask my linux teacher he is a linux guru to be doing the sr level certification from lpi. he has a setup like what im doign offering spam filtering and if i remember correctly with the server based in the usa hes able to filter bout 1,000 or so emails a min using spammassassin clamav and if im not mistaken postfix
[19:10] <eagles0513875> lol yep
[19:10] <Rioting_pacifist> eagles0513875: wierd im looking through repos and cant seem to find any djing software but i do rember installing some when i first tried out 6.10
[19:10]  * eagles0513875 doh
[19:10] <eagles0513875> Rioting_pacifist: i think im goign to try the jack stuff thats out there
[19:10] <eagles0513875> there is alot of djing stuff for jack
[19:11] <nuxil> time for some food.
[19:11] <MachinTrucChose> what is the difference between normal boot and "recovery mode" boot in the Grub boot menu?
[19:11] <eagles0513875> nuxil: i probably wont be on since i soon gotta get ready for a party lol
[19:12] <nuxil> ;) heh im going to a party myslef ;)
[19:13] <eagles0513875> MachinTrucChose: basically if something happens and you cant boot the system it has vry vry min stuff just the necessary files to fix ur installation
[19:14]  * eagles0513875 into amarok channel i go
[19:14] <MachinTrucChose> eagles: OK, thanks
[19:14] <eagles0513875> MachinTrucChose: no prob
[19:17] <lovre> how can i have remote desktop control over windows xp machine? To see desktop and all? From linux?
[19:18] <biovore> krdp
[19:18] <biovore> rdp://<windowbox_IP>
[19:18] <biovore> make sure windows has remote desktop enabled
[19:19] <biovore> might need to install rdesktop to get it work though...
[19:19] <lovre> biovore: any other ways?
[19:19] <biovore> vnc
[19:19] <biovore> install vnc server on windows
[19:20] <MachinTrucChose> ok, I'm narrowing down my problem. My keyboard is disabled at the following time: after the motherboard posts (ie, GRUB starts loading), until Kubuntu's loading progress bar is at 25%. Anyone have any idea why? I need to type stuff in Grub manually but the keyboard's just dead (I tested by pressing Num Lock repeatedly and watching its LED)
[19:20] <biovore> then you can connect using a vnc client
[19:20] <biovore> MachinTrucChose: P4 mobo?
[19:20] <lovre> biovore: i like vnc idea better.
[19:21] <eagles0513875> MachinTrucChose: you have a different keyboard to test with
[19:21] <MachinTrucChose> biovore: LGA 775. But I had no such issue before, when I only  had Kubuntu installed (I installed XP, and had to repair Grub).
[19:21] <lovre> biovore: what vnc software would you suggest?
[19:21] <MachinTrucChose> I have no PS/2 keyboard.
[19:21] <eagles0513875> MachinTrucChose: if you have usb try usb
[19:21] <MachinTrucChose> this is a USB keyboard
[19:22] <biovore> MachinTrucChose: I had this issue as well on my P4 i875p
[19:22] <biovore> never really narrowed it down..
[19:22] <eagles0513875> MachinTrucChose: iin regards to ur xp installation and repairng grub try installing xp first leaving freespace for linux and then install linux after windows
[19:22] <MachinTrucChose> it's gotta be a hardware/motherboard issue
[19:22] <somdev> Can I use Kopete to talk with my friends ?
[19:22] <eagles0513875> MachinTrucChose: what happened there in regards to xp and having to repair grub
[19:22] <MachinTrucChose> eagles: they're on separate hard drives, it shouldn't be an issue
[19:22] <biovore> somdev: supports AIM/ICQ and some others
[19:23] <eagles0513875> MachinTrucChose: windows uses ntbootloader and linux uses grub and grub tricks the ntboot loader to use grub
[19:23] <eagles0513875> to boot into windows
[19:23] <biovore> well not really..  just throws the CPU to start executing code of the other disk (Chainloader +1)
[19:23] <MachinTrucChose> eagles: I have 1 SATA and 1 IDE hard drive. I installed Kubuntu on the SATA but the bootloader went on the IDE drive for some reason. I unplugged it (leaving only IDE), installed Windows on IDE, replugged SATA, followed Ubuntu.com instructions on restoring Grub, now Kubuntu boots fine.
[19:24] <somdev> I have gmail account And use jabber. will that work ?
[19:24] <biovore> MachinTrucChose: probably picked the IDE drive because its first in the boot order
[19:24] <MachinTrucChose> but I can't go back to Windows. I wanted to type Grub commands (on the Grub commandline) to see what I need to put in my menu.lst. In any case, since the keyboard doesn't work, even if I got XP to work I would be unable to select between Kubuntu and XP.
[19:25] <biovore> somdev: jabber works
[19:25] <eagles0513875> biovore: i have to agree with ya on that
[19:25] <MachinTrucChose> I'll try to play around with the BIOS settings to see if I can do something to make the keyboard work again.
[19:26] <eagles0513875> MachinTrucChose:  how old is the keyboard
[19:26] <biovore> MachinTrucChose: I don't think a USB keyboard will work untill udev starts up, the default kernel for ubuntu disable the bios fallback stuff, I believe
[19:26] <MachinTrucChose> biovore: how can I access the BIOS then?
[19:26] <biovore> thats before the linux kernel starts..
[19:26] <biovore> bios emulates the USB keyboard as a PS2
[19:27] <biovore> its weird thing..
[19:27] <somdev> Do i need to install any additional package, to enable voice chat ?
[19:27] <MachinTrucChose> also, I never had this issue before I played around with installing WinXP. When I only had Ubuntu, I could move around in the Grub menu.lst, it was responding to my keyboard.
[19:27] <eagles0513875> laer all
[19:27] <eagles0513875> later
[19:27] <MachinTrucChose> bye
[19:27] <biovore> MachinTrucChose: yes.. the default kernel disable the bios ps2 emulation stuff.. when udev starts should start working then..
[19:28] <biovore> probably will need a PS2 keyboard to get it all working..
[19:28] <MachinTrucChose> biovore: ouch. But why did I not have this problem 2 days ago?
[19:28] <biovore> linux was probably starting the USB driver and you got your keyboard picked up by USB input drivers
[19:29] <ruben> I have a problem with wireless connection, I when I enable it, it just turns back to "disabled"
[19:29] <MachinTrucChose> if you say I'll need a PS2 keyboard, then OK
[19:29] <MachinTrucChose> thanks for the help. I'm gonna reboot and give it a last shot in BIOS.
[19:29] <biovore> I think all USB keyboards come with a little adapter to make it a PS2
[19:30] <MachinTrucChose> I'll see if I can find one at work. Thanks. I'm gonna reboot now. ;)
[19:31] <biovore> bbl
[19:32] <console_jockey> I'm trying to use a USB floppy driver.  I'm running kubuntu hardy.  lspci shows the device, but when I attempt to mount /dev/fd0 I get nothing.  I'm sure I'm doing it wrong.  Suggestions?
[19:32] <ruben> How do I enable wireless connection in Kubuntu, I tried enabling it in System settings - Network settings, but it just turns back to disabled. In windows it works
[19:33] <RiotingPacifist> ruben: do you have the drivers installed for your chip?
[19:34] <_sourcemaker> how can i configure kdrc so that i can connect a other linux box via gui?
[19:34] <console_jockey> nm. it a looks as though the device is /dev/sdb not /dev/fd0
[19:35] <ruben> RiotingPacifist, i don't know? how do i do it
[19:35] <RiotingPacifist> !jokey
[19:36] <RiotingPacifist> !jockey
[19:36] <ruben> but i thinks so because it stands in the list "wlan0" and I can choose "enable interface" but then it just turns back to disabled
[19:37] <brand0con> how can i launch the kde system settings
[19:37] <RiotingPacifist> you should have a program running in your system tray otherwise run the command kdeusdo jockey-kde
[19:37] <brand0con> i removed it from my menu
[19:37] <brand0con> thx
[19:37] <RiotingPacifist> ruben: do you know what chipset you have some have very broken OSS drivers
[19:38] <brand0con> kde system settings via terminal or run command?
[19:38] <brand0con> whats the command  anyone
[19:39] <RiotingPacifist> brand0con: systemsettings
[19:39] <ruben> I dont know, its a laptop I lent from my university, my own one is broke but I need lunix for some programs
[19:39] <brand0con> weird not installed
[19:39] <Telroth|Sleep> I need some help with my DVD drive. The BIOS allows me to boot from it (kubuntu 8.04 dvd), but the drive does not show up at all when running an installed system (kubuntu 8.04 (/dev/scd0 doesn't exist), Vista SP1 (No Optical drives show up in device manager)). Any help is welcome.
[19:40] <brand0con> it wasnt installed.  works now thanks
[19:40] <ruben> havent had any problem with Ubuntu on my own (broken) laptop, but I thought lets try kde for once :)
[19:40] <RiotingPacifist> brand0con maybe you were looking for kcontrol
[19:40] <ruben> Can I look somewhere wich chipset it is?
[19:41] <RiotingPacifist> lspci will list it but it might not be obvious, erm it could just be a networkmanager problem, im not sure what the best way to fix this is
[19:42] <costa58> #italian
[19:42] <RiotingPacifist> !wifi
[19:43] <RiotingPacifist> if its working nm-tool should output what driver its using
[19:44] <costa58> nessuno italiano
[19:44] <RiotingPacifist> Telroth|Sleep: sounds like a bios problem, perhaps its in legacy mode or something
[19:44] <RiotingPacifist> !it
[19:44] <RiotingPacifist> is that what you were looking for?
[19:45] <Telroth|Sleep> RiotingPacifist, there aren't any settings in the BIOS reguarding that (Lenovo Y710). The drive showed up initially, and I could install programs and whatnot in Vista. I have not changed any BIOS settings, so I don't think it's the BIOS
[19:52] <maestro-giacomo> ciao a tutti
[19:55] <Berte> Hi all, i want to configure my dualscreen.  What is the best way to do it in hardy kde4? My card is ati 1300 dual headed.
[20:01] <zach_> my stuffed tux stabbed me when i told him i forgot what file i need to edit to mount my hdd
[20:01] <zach_> o.o
[20:02] <zabbadapp> Question about Adept: There are several updates available, but I don't want kernel 2.6.24-18 installed (since suspend didn't work with '-17' and according to forum neither does with '-18', so I select '-16' in grub on boot-up -- which still suspends OK. If '-18' installs I can no longer select '-16' since I can only see one previous kernel in grub) ... How do I unselect linux-(headers|image|resticted|ubuntu)-* from
[20:02] <zabbadapp> Adepts list? And exactly which? And do I need to unselect xserver or anything else from the list? Those marked as upgradeable has the choice "request removal" which partly sounds like it will remove the package from the system all together.
[20:02] <zach_> o.o
[20:09] <zabbadapp> Or how do I get grub to keep a history of more kernels when updating the OS?
[20:13] <RiotingPacifist> zach_:  you need to edit /etc/fstab
[20:13] <Dishivlatavish> Hi, my flash plugin stopped working after upgrading to ff3 in Hardy Heron x86_64. I followed this howto but to no avail http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=772490
[20:15] <Dishivlatavish> although libflashplayer.so and npwrapper.libflashplayer.so are both there in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, nothing shows up in about:plugins on ff3. Running ff3 from shell and typing in about:plugins shows :    Unknown option on the command line: --info   Error parsing option on the command line: --info
[20:24] <Berte> hmm, i did remove something in my menu bar, i can't see running applications in my menu bar anymore, how can i put it back?
[20:28] <zach_> RiotingPacifist, duh my stuffed tux told me that ;p
[20:30] <RiotingPacifist> Berte: do you mean the entire bar or just the bit that shows apps
[20:32] <Berte> the bit that shows apps
[20:32] <Berte> well i did delete .kde & .kde4 now :-) so i have it back
[20:32] <Berte> but i suppose there is a better solution ;-)
[20:33] <lovre> i cant use grep on pdf files because they are in binary format. Is there any other way?
[20:33] <lovre> I need to search for a text in lots and lots of files.
[20:34] <drurew> is there a gdesklets irc room ?
[20:35] <EightiesK> is there anyway to make the kmenu open when pressing a button?
[20:35] <RiotingPacifist> Berte: you just needed to add the taskbar applet to the pannel
[20:36] <Dishivlatavish> Hi, my flash plugin stopped working after upgrading to ff3 in Hardy Heron x86_64. I followed this howto but to no avail http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=772490
[20:36] <RiotingPacifist> EightiesK: yes bind it using systemsettings>regional>shortcut keys
[20:37] <drurew> !gdesklets
[20:38] <drurew> !gdesklets
[20:38] <sorin> Hi ! i have here a NVidia GeForce 6600 graphic card ! after installing nvidai driver from adept manager at first shutdown i have a blank screen
[20:39] <sorin> if i restart the pc is working ,my driver is vanishing only at shutdown
[20:40] <sorin> any  help ?
[20:41] <console_jockey> I have an odd situation where k3b seems to cause my dvd burner to shutdown (for lack of a better term).  I can access the drive so long as I don't run k3b, but once I do the drive physically stop responding.  I can't open the drive from the front panel and linux reports no device.  What might be the issue?
[20:42] <console_jockey> note: running kubuntu hardy on dell desktop.
[20:42] <EightiesK> RiotingPacifist: ... how...
[20:43] <lovre> noone knows if there is something to search PDF files in linux?
[20:43] <Pennycook> lovre: You mean to search an open PDF file?  I think pressing Ctrl + F in KPDF works
[20:44] <console_jockey> kpdf has a text search capability, but I'm not aware of a cli command
[20:44] <harun> selam
[20:45] <lovre> Pennycook: no, i mean to search hundreds of files without opening. Like i do with grep for normal text files. But grep doesnt work on pdf since it is stored in binary format.
[20:45] <EightiesK> RiotingPacifist: ????
[20:45] <RiotingPacifist> run systemsettings or kcontrol , and in the keyboard shortcuts section setv pane>, popup launch menu to whatever you want (its currently alt+f1)
[20:46] <jc-denton> is there a network manager applet for kde 4.1?
[20:46] <jc-denton> i can use the gnome nm-applet
[20:46] <jc-denton> but it's not very pretty
[20:47] <EightiesK> anyone else?
[20:47] <sorin> i have here a geforce 6600 graphic card . i install the driver , after required restrt is working nice ,but after shutdown is going away, i have only a black screen after kubuntu logo screen
[20:48] <RiotingPacifist> EightiesK:[20:45] <RiotingPacifist> run systemsettings or kcontrol , and in the keyboard shortcuts section setv pane>, popup launch menu to whatever you want (its currently alt+f1)
[20:48] <RiotingPacifist> *panel
[20:48] <RiotingPacifist> !nvidia
[20:50] <plovs__> a friend of mine wants to start to do some programming in qt, what packages to install as a minimum?
[20:51] <fungos> hi
[20:51] <RiotingPacifist> qt is c++ right? so build-essentials a nice IDE and libqt libqt-dev (last 2 might have a different name) would probably be enough
[20:52] <fungos> yup. kdevelop is good
[20:52] <fungos> im having trouble to get nvidia drivers working on 8.04. I tried everything (read a lot on ubuntu forums and eveywhere). Anybody can help me?
[20:53] <plovs__> ok, we'll try kdevelop
[20:53] <EightiesK> RiotingPacifist: so theres no way to just make it the win key... huh...
[20:53] <sorin> fungos: i have the same problem here
[20:54] <RiotingPacifist> EightiesK: yes just bind it to the win key
[20:54] <fungos> sorin: I tried nviida official driver, it works after install. but after a reboot it doesnt work anymore
[20:54] <sorin> fungos what problem you have ?
[20:54] <sorin> Yes is the same problem at my pc
[20:54] <reagleBRKLN> I want to print an image 4 times on a sheet of paper? is there a trivial way? or do I have to construct such an image?
[20:55] <sorin> after reboot just a black screen
[20:55] <fungos> sorin: this is so weird and boring :S
[20:55] <EightiesK> RiotingPacifist: it won't let me.
[20:55] <fungos> sorin: yes. And that System > Hardware Driver Manager dont show anything!
[20:55] <EightiesK> its like...  its used as alt.
[20:56] <fungos> there are alot of threads about this problems, but none of them has any reasonable explaination and fully working solution
[20:56] <sorin> fungos: i search all the forums and i don't found any help for that problem
[20:56] <fungos> yeah, this simple sux
[20:56] <RiotingPacifist> EightiesK: you apear to be correct the win key can only be used as a mondifier, not sure if you can work round that limitation
[20:57] <sorin> is one but is very hard from my family to use
[20:57] <fungos> and looks like nowhere nobody is capable to solve this
[20:58] <EightiesK> RiotingPacifist: well it works in FC3 with kde installed.
[20:58] <sorin>  at grub boot page push e to edit the boot line and try initdr-image to booting
[20:58] <RiotingPacifist> dont think anybody is about at the moment, all i can recomend is to read through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto and to come back when the chanel is busier and use the free driver for now
[20:58] <fungos> I wont give up, I will continue trying here. if anybody knows how to solve plz contact me at fungos at gmail.
[20:59] <Telroth|Sleep> fungos, you're trying to get nvidia drivers installed?
[20:59] <fungos> yes
[21:00] <fungos> it works after install, but after a boot they just gone
[21:00] <RiotingPacifist> EightiesK: well in that case it is doable probably just requires a different xmodmap or something like that or changing something in other keyboard settings
[21:00] <Telroth|Sleep> fungos, run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[21:01] <Telroth|Sleep> then, use "sudo nvidia-settings" to configure the driver
[21:01] <EightiesK> anyone know if theres a dock i could add to kde3... like macosx has?
[21:01] <EightiesK> i've been looking...
[21:01] <EightiesK> no luck.
[21:01] <Telroth|Sleep> EightiesK, kleardock, ksmoothdock
[21:01] <fungos> yeah, I got X working, but no glx
[21:01] <EightiesK> thanks
[21:02] <Telroth|Sleep> i've experienced performance issues with them, but others seem to have them working decently
[21:02] <fungos> when on nvidia-settings "OpenLG/GLX Information" it only shows: "Fail to query the GLX server vendor."
[21:02] <Telroth|Sleep> fungos, those programs should configure X to run with glx properly
[21:02] <fungos> ok,  I will retry, need restart X
[21:02] <fungos> brb
[21:09] <lovre> how do i save result of ls to a variable?
[21:12] <b0nn> Hi all, I upgraded my xserver-core yesterday, and now, after a period of unsuse, my touchpad mouse dies.  The only way to restart it thus far has been to reboot the laptop
[21:12] <b0nn> unuse
[21:13] <b0nn> any ideas for reverting to the old xserver, or restarting w/ever is dying?
[21:17] <fero> hi
[21:18] <fero> do you read me?=
[21:19] <Telroth|Sleep> yes
[21:23] <aenigma> Anybody want to help me with an issue I am having with kubuntu?
[21:24] <Telroth|Sleep> aenigma, just post the problem/question
[21:24] <gocKe> hi everyone
[21:25] <aenigma> Alright, I have been trying to get wol and suspend working right on my computer and last night I put another network card in it to see if it would work. It didn't so I went back to the onboard network card and had some /etc/hosts issues with sudo not resolving hostname, I got that fixed but now when I shutdown it hangs when trying to shutdown alsa.
[21:26] <aenigma> It says "WARNING: invoke-rc.d called during shutdown sequence" and it will just scroll that over and over until I shut the computer off.
[21:27] <Telroth|Sleep> aenigma, what system changes have been made recently?
[21:27] <aenigma> The weird thing is that I removed alsa and alsa-utils with apt-get remove --purge and it would go to suspend after booting
[21:28] <aenigma> well swapping network cards was the main system change, and it started as soon as I went back to my built-in ethernet card
[21:30] <aenigma> oh and it will also hang trying to shutdown alsa when I startup, it is baffling
[21:31] <aenigma> The only way to boot up is by using recovery and selecting resume, so apparently recovery is skipping some script that usually starts
[21:33] <aenigma> I was thinking it was alsa-utils script because when I invoke it with ./etc/rc2.d/S50alsa-utils it will do the same thing, but removing it just gave me the problem with the computer going into standby while loading kubuntu.
[21:34] <crimsun> aenigma: you don't really need alsa-utils's udev script invoked if you don't mind ALSA state not being (re)stored.
[21:34] <crimsun> aenigma: i.e., if you use PulseAudio and/or kmix, restoration is done automatically.
[21:35] <monk3y> anyone have an idea when i try to "add a new key" to Wine in registry editor, it says "Invalid Handle"?
[21:35] <monk3y> trying to configure WoW
[21:35] <aenigma> Well I did remove alsa completely, and it just introduced another problem altogether.
[21:36] <aenigma> so I guess alsa isn't really the problem, which is what is confusing me
[21:36] <tristan_> !adeptfix
[21:36] <crimsun> aenigma: well, the problem is that it's not altogether clear to a casual user what package contains what.
[21:37] <aenigma> yeah, but I fail to see who alsa has anything to do with suspend
[21:37] <crimsun> for instance, alsa-utils contains the udev rule, and alsa-base contains the suspend script.
[21:38] <aenigma> hmmm
[21:38] <crimsun> I'm thinking we probably just need to drop multiuser /and/ default semantics for the initscript
[21:40] <aenigma> how would I do that?
[21:40] <crimsun> the only time it really makes sense to restore is pre-desktop, and the only time it really makes sense to store is pre-shutdown/reboot/suspend
[21:40] <crimsun> aenigma: sorry, I'm just thinking aloud.  I maintained the ALSA bits for a longish time.
[21:40] <aenigma> oh
[21:47] <stripedcat> ANYONE FROM RUSSIA HERE?
[21:52] <aenigma_> Yeah, running alsa force-reload does it every time
[21:55] <Rioting_pacifist> !ru
[21:59] <fungos> Telroth|Sleep: well, I got nvidia working now (with Nvidia official drivers, not ubuntu) but I havent glxinfo here. why?
[22:00] <holycow> i think  you haveto install mesa-utils
[22:01] <Telroth|Sleep> yeah glxgears/glxinfo are in mesa-utils or another package
[22:02] <fungos> yah! nice.
[22:04] <fungos> well, I got it working after removing everything related with nvidia and libglx. nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-new-kernel-source, NVIDIA...sh --uninstall, rm /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extension/libglx.so.* .. then installed official NVIDIA again and rebooted to test.
[22:05] <Laptzo> I have a TravelMate 6292 and my Wifi LED does not work? can anyone please help me? And where is an icon which lets me connect to wifi signals??
[22:06] <_sourcemaker> is there already a stable kde 4 version?
[22:07] <slow-motion> hi
[22:08] <Blissex> _sourcemaker: yes.
[22:08] <Blissex> Laptzo: usually there is a physical switch to enable the wifi.
[22:08] <_sourcemaker> Blissex: kde 4.1b or kde 4.0.5?
[22:09] <Laptzo> Blissex: well the LED is not working
[22:09] <Blissex> _sourcemaker: the 4.0 series is stable, just slightly less complete than 4.1 will be.
[22:17] <sergio_> hola a todos
[22:17] <sergio_> tengo una duda
[22:17] <sergio_> como instalo los juegos en ambiente kde3.5
[22:17] <sergio_> ???
[22:18] <engineer> apt-get install kde-games
[22:18] <engineer> sudo apt-get install kde-games
[22:27] <lovre> how do i install all windows fonts on kubuntu
[22:27] <lovre> ?
[22:28] <Nece228> lovre: easy
[22:30] <Nece228> here: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[22:31] <Nece228> lovre: do you have windows in your computer too?
[22:32] <bfrog> any suggestions on what the best ati driver out there is at the moment?
[22:35] <lovre> yes, i have windows on my computer too
[22:35] <lovre> hes gone :S
[22:35] <diego_23> hi!
[22:36] <schumbi> lovre: as a vm? or dual boot?
[22:36] <schumbi> Hi
[22:37] <lovre> schumbi: dual boot
[22:37] <schumbi> i kicked windows off 1 1/2 year ago :)
[22:38] <lovre> schumbi: should i copy all fonts or what?
[22:39] <lovre> schumbi: some applications i run under wine have problems with fonts
[22:39] <lovre> schumbi: what do i do
[22:39] <schumbi> hm have you wine corectly configured?
[22:40] <lovre> schumbi: i believe so
[22:40] <lovre> schumbi: its just the font is too too smaaaal, i hardly see it
[22:40] <lovre> schumbi: i guess its using the wrong one
[22:41] <jals> hey this is a silly little issue, but my "system settings" button has disappeared in the K menu and been replaced by a "system settings" menu item which expands with the options, anyway to revert that?
[22:41] <vamsi> Hi there. I have a quick question. I just downloaded a small program. In order to run it, I had to chmod the .sh file and run it from konsole as ./filename.sh and it works. how do I put this in the k-menu?
[22:42] <schumbi> lovre: hm i run winecfg but there is sadly no way to configure it
[22:42] <lovre> vamsi: right click the k-menu and select menu editor
[22:42] <lovre> vamsi: there you can configure stuff
[22:42] <lovre> schumbi: how do i install all windows fonts?
[22:43] <vamsi> lovre: i was there. at the place where it says 'command', what do i enter?
[22:43] <Sadr> is there a feature in Kubuntu that shows you your available memory? like, if it's close to an override... TuneUp for windows had this useful feature
[22:43] <lovre> enter /full/path/to/script.sh
[22:43] <lovre> Sadr: free
[22:43] <lovre> Sadr: free -m
[22:43] <vamsi> lovre: oh. I was putting the full path in the Work Path area
[22:44] <schumbi> lovre: sorry i don't know
[22:44] <lovre> schumbi: ok
[22:44] <cara> Hi all, how do I set the date and time format in KDE4?
[22:44] <cara> I want to switch from 24 hour to 12 hour format
[22:45] <vamsi> lovre:great, thank you very much.
[22:45] <lovre> vamsi: np
[22:45] <jals> so no way to revert to a single system settings option?
[22:47] <Rioting_pacifist> jals: you can manually readd systemsettings and remove the system settings menu
[22:47] <engineer> cara in system settings
[22:47] <jals> true i suppose, just kinda curious where it went
[22:48] <jals> i must've done something to convert it to an expandable option like that
[22:48] <cara> yeah engineer when I click there everything is grayed out
[22:50] <Rioting_pacifist> jals: its wierd because the AFAIK the 2 are controlled by completly different settings, the menu is controlled by panel settings and unless thats done something clever, the menu entry is seperatly controlled by k menu editor
[22:51] <jussi01> cara: try asking in #kubuntu-kde4
[22:51] <jals> ok i can happily readd the system settings option: what would be the command for it?
[22:51] <jals> systemsettings doesn't seem to do it
[22:51] <Rioting_pacifist> systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m
[22:52] <jals> says system settings is not installed, maybe i somehow removed it?
[22:52] <Rioting_pacifist> unless by default kubuntu uses kcontrol
[22:53] <Rioting_pacifist> no wonder people have been getting confused with my instructions :S oops, i must of installed systemsettings without even noticing
[22:53] <jals> thing is though, i liked the system settings menu that was on here at first
[22:53] <jals> but i've clearly done something to remove it
[22:54] <Rioting_pacifist> try running kcontrol that might be the default one
[22:54] <jals> i tried, it's not the one that was there before...
[22:54] <jals> this is the one i'm after - http://kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch03s07.html
[22:54] <jals> ok it was kde-systemsettings i was after
[22:54] <jals> just installed it via apt
[22:54] <hotpocket> hello
[22:55] <jucs_> hi
[22:55]  * cara tries to be patient
[22:55] <cara> but this 24h format is driving me nucking futs lol
[22:56] <lars__> right click on the clock
[22:57] <lars__> adjust date and time
[22:57] <cara> lars__: its not available
[22:57]  * cara said that it was grayed out earlier
[22:57] <jals> yeah oddly when i click it nothing happens
[22:58] <lars__> hmm
[22:58] <lars__> restart the computer?
[22:58] <cara> I did
[22:59] <cara> but when I go KDE Menu->System Settings->Date and Time everything is grayed out
[23:00] <schumbi> cara: do run it as su?
[23:00] <lars__> did you click on administrator mode?
[23:04] <cara> how do you run it as su?
[23:04] <cara> and there's no administrator mode
[23:04]  * cara is sooooooooooo lost lol
[23:05] <schumbi> hm edit the kmenu and put kdesudo befor the command
[23:05] <engineer> cara kdesu <application>
[23:07] <cara> ok so what's the app name for the clock?
[23:07] <theFATMAN>  i need a good format to format video converter, any suggestions?
[23:08] <schumbi> in kde3 /usr/bin/kcmshell 'kde-clock.desktop'
[23:08] <schumbi> or so
[23:10] <lars__> What format to what format?
[23:11] <theFATMAN> lars_any to any, really
[23:11] <theFATMAN> lars_:in this instance, i need to convert ISO to avi or xvid
[23:12] <Walzmyn> anybody know why I don't get a sound from pidgin upon message receipt even though i've got it set to sound?
[23:13] <GodFather> how do I add a second panel to kde4
[23:15] <Walzmyn> GodFather, there's a kde channel that might be more help
[23:15] <Walzmyn> GodFather, excuse me, kde4 channel
[23:15] <lars__> but do you want another desktop?
[23:16] <GodFather> Walzmyn, thanks
[23:17] <GodFather> lars__, i want a panel at the top and bottom, like I was able to have in kde3
[23:17] <Walzmyn> GodFather, I know alot of stuff dealing with the panel is not in yet
[23:17] <Walzmyn> GodFather, it may or may not be possible right now
[23:18] <GodFather> perhaps I jumped into kde4 too early, it's been very difficult today trying to move into kde4
[23:19] <Walzmyn> GodFather, i'm looking verymuch forward to it, but I'm waiting for a few more features
[23:20] <CH1C0> hi all
[23:21] <CH1C0> this is my first visit ti IRC using Konversation
[23:23] <schumbi> CH1C0: it works ;) i am able to rad you
[23:23] <schumbi> read
[23:27] <CH1C0> geoff?
[23:35] <inobi_> hi everybody
[23:37] <hyper_ch> hiho, for some reason kontact doesn't fetch any email anymore...
[23:38] <hyper_ch> and also no rss feed with akreggator
[23:40] <ubuntu__> hjh
[23:48] <hotpocket> could someone help me setup a ubuntu ftp server?
[23:53] <djouallah> hi what is the version of the kde4.1 beta availabe in kubuntu (4.0.82) ?
[23:56] <rulr_> i am on ubuntu, how to install kubuntu
[23:57] <romunov> how about sudo apt-get install kde-desktop?
[23:57] <rulr_> omw
[23:58] <JoshOvki> romunov: isnt it  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[23:58] <rulr_> what?!
[23:58] <rulr_> wait, wich one is it?
[23:58] <djouallah> soory to ask this stupid question i am installing kde4.1 beta, and had fellowed the instuctio, but i find it installing kde and openoffice
[23:58] <JoshOvki> rulr_: try  sudo apt-get install kde-desktop    if that doesnt work try it with kubuntu-desktop
[23:59] <rulr_> JoshOvki: kde-desktop does NOT work, kubuntu-dektop does, thx